Mike Hill and Eunice Elliot discuss the recent losses for the Detroit Lions and Baltimore Ravens, reflecting on their own experiences with heartbreak and missed opportunities. Bomani Jones joins the show and shares his thoughts on Deion Sanders, aka Coach Prime, being gifted a house by his sons. Finally, according to Shaq, "You can't open up to a woman.” Is he Shaqtin a Fool?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Y'all. This is the inflection collective farther for us, a connected, reflective,
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facts of kicks. Back here, fortune there be that? All right,
welcome back to the Done There Been That Podcast. This
is episode eight. Mike Hill hanging out with a great
talented Eunis Elliott. What's going on?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
You nest that much? Mike? How have you been?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
I have been. We'll get to that in just a second,
but we got a dope episode for you guys. First
of all, thank you for all the support and all
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There Been That Podcast. Got a great episode. We're talking
to some great topics. Of course, the super Bowl we're
(00:43):
gonna talk about. We're gonna talk about emotions, one of
unit's favorite UH topics to talk about. We're gonna talk
about Dion Sanders and his sons buying him a mansion
in Colorado. And we got a special guest to talk
about that, the great Bomani Jones is going to join
in us a little bit later on in the show,
the Super Bowl is set. I got admit, I'm a
(01:05):
little disappointed because the Chiefs and the Niners in it.
Nothing against the Chiefs of the Niners, so don't come
for me their fans. But I wanted to. I wanted
to Detroit Baltimore Super Bowl just because of their fans.
Kanyac Boat. I wanted the Innsent Bowl, you know what
I mean. I wanted some the Cigar Bowl. I wanted
some now later Gator Bowl, but that did not happen.
(01:25):
So little disappointing in Baltimore because they kind of didn't
show up when they needed to show up in the
biggest game of the year. And of course Detroit. I
don't want to say they choked, but you know when
you got to say a team point lead in the
game like that, that magnitude that was to watch.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
I didn't have a dog in either favor watching that
that Lions game. You know you saw the fans being
excited like we finally made it, and to see it
just go away, it was I've actually felt bad I
read it.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
So, so that was my question. Since this is the
done there been that podcast, we always talk about like
ways to make it seem like you've been in that position.
Have you ever been in a position where you were
in a big spot spot and you've been waiting for
for a long time or maybe even your entire life,
and you get that one opportunity and for some reason
(02:12):
you did not nail it or didn't come through or
things didn't go as planned.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Well, I would say every audition I've ever had, well,
it's not because of any shortcoming or failing on my party.
Just that wasn't my time, that wasn't my opportunity. But
I will tell you a lot of times people ask me,
do I get nervous before I go on stage? And
I don't. But the reason why I don't is when
I was a very young person, just you know, doing
public speaking, you know in school and in classes, I
(02:38):
would get really nervous and I would not do it
as well as I knew I could do it, and
it would just eat me up. Right after I finished,
I was like, oh, I knew how to do it,
and my nerves took me out of that. So I
tend to get nervous after I've done something big because
nerves don't serve me. Some people nerves, you know, serve them.
It calls that adrenaline boost and it makes me better.
Nerves do not serve me well, so I do not
(02:59):
allow myself to get nervous. But a lot of times
I have gotten off some big stages and then I
look back and say, who, I can't believe I did that.
But I would say I don't think I've had the
big moment that I didn't rise to the occasion. Most
of my auditions, I tend to do them especially great.
Right after I do the audition and get in the
car and I do it again, I'm like, Oh, that
was it, that was the one right there? Yeah, yeah,
(03:20):
what about what about?
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Nerves are great for me. I love nerds. That's why
I'm always so hyped because I have nervous energy. So
I'm like, if you don't see me right now with
my legs under the table, I'm always moving. So I
love that. But I use that as that energy, and
it used me to kind of keep the adrenaline going,
because sometimes my mind kind of zones out or whatnot.
But I have been in a position once before I
finally got a show. When I got here the Fox
right ESPN was there just toil and doing all these
(03:43):
different shows at ESPN, doing every show in a building,
but I never got my show. And so when I
finally got here the Fox, I finally got my show.
After about a year and a half, well about a year,
they gave me a show. It's called The America's pre Game,
and it was my show hosting, and I felt like
I did not nail it the way I should have.
And the reason why I didn't nail it the way
I should have because I didn't take ownership of it.
(04:05):
I tried to make it a show where I had
a co host. Well she wasn't my co host, but
she was a newsreader on the show, and I tried
to make her the co host, and my agent, my
manager kept saying, stop giving her so much credit. And
I wasn't trying to hate her. I was trying to
make her feel part of the team. And I should
have taken full advantage of that. I should have taken
about of horns and basically said, no, this is my opportunity,
(04:26):
this is my show. But because I guess I was
too unselfish, I allowed the opportunity to get away from
me and not put my stamp on it and put
my name on it the way I needed to. So
I've always said that if I get another opportunity like that,
where I actually get a show like America's pregame, where
I can hold something, where I really can take ownership up,
(04:47):
I'm definitely gonna do that from here on out. And
so I felt like I was at Detroit Lines back
in the day when America's pregame finally got canceled. Now
it got canceled because they wanted to go into the
direction of more debate. But what I should have done
is taken it show which was kind of previewing all
of the Knights games big games for that evening, and
made it a little bit more of a conversation, made
(05:08):
it a little bit more of a debate, put my
stamp on it, and made myself a little bit more memorable.
And I promise I will never do that again. So
if I'm every in that position again, I won't fail.
Detroit Lions. You every in that position again the NFC
Championship game, don't fail. Get to the super Bowl and
win it on That's a lesson for all of us
right there.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
And I think also, you know, there's no one moment,
especially in a team sport, you can have that, you know,
miss last field goal or a fumble or interception, all
those things, but it's you played the sixty minutes. It's
a collection of each moment, and I just hate when
people do fall short that then it comes down on
the person that the time ran out on, you know,
It's like, hey, we've been playing for sixty minutes. Everybody
(05:47):
had a job, everyone has to execute. I think I
don't have kids, but I always my heart breaks for
the field goal kicker who misses it, you know, especially
in college, and he becomes the pariah of the team,
and I'm like, listen, there was a reason why we
needed the field goal. Y'all didn't do it. Y'allt need
to do the whole time. I've been over here stretching,
you know. And so I think, uh, in most situations
in team sports, everybody you know, has a different thing
(06:08):
that they can think of what they would have done.
It's a little bit tougher when you are at an
individual and you feel like you didn't step up. That
can sometimes eat you up. But I honestly believe that
everything happens exactly the way it should, the wins, the losses,
and you learn more from your losses than you do
your wins. And so it's like, hey, just charge it
to the game and it might it might not even
make it as a scene in my made for TV
(06:29):
movie Who knows. I don't give it too much energy.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
I agree. I think something like you said, your losses
are just as important because, like I said last week,
sometimes when you're down in dumps, man, those are the
times when you learn your best lessons that will prepare
you for that next shot. The only issue is you
don't know when that next shot is going to happen or.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
If, but you know you'll be ready.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
But you know that.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
You've been prepared.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
So I'm ready. I'm ready. Somebody give me another show.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
You know what I'm saying. Look at Mike is a issue.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Talk show, not just sports, pop culture, entertainment, lifestyle, relationships.
Y'all know how great I am. Relationships. You need to
come home. Let your boy.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
We are excited to have a guest with us today,
our first guest on Done There have been that the.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
First ever guess and we are so honored to have
this guy one as a guest because he is well,
he's doing his thing, He's been doing his thing for
years of ESPN and other outlets HBO. This guy is
phenomenal with everything he does, not just in sports, but
about the culture. He is the host of the Right
Time with Bomani Jones. Everybody knows him already. He needs
no introduction, but we're gonna give it to him right now.
(07:37):
Bomani Jones hanging out with us here on the Done
there Ben that podcast. What's up, Bobani?
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Hey man, I'm doing all right. How about y'all?
Speaker 1 (07:45):
But we cannot complain. We can, I would be much better.
We're gonna jump right into it. If I was prime
time Deon Sanders, man, if I had kids like prime
I don't know if you saw this or not, but
the other day it was announced on Instagram. They put
it out on us the ESPN page that Deon Sanders,
who of courses, the coach of the Colorado Buffalo's, his kids,
(08:06):
his boys beyond Junior, Shador and Shiloh, actually bought him
a mansion in Colorado. Deon came out. He was talking
about how happy he was and how blessed they were
passing a law to them or whatnot, and they were
happy to give it to them. But the reaction. Bo
money has not been what I thought it would be
when it comes to some good boys trying to show
(08:28):
their dad some love. And I'm wondering how you feel
about that. I'm pretty sure you've seen the clip, and
I'm wondering what you think about that and your take
on that.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Oh, it's the most ridiculous shit I ever seen in
my life.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
I AI, And look, they are allowed to do whatever
they want with their money. It's kind of weird that
they have enough money to buy a house befitting of
Dion Saders.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
That's a whole different discussion for another day.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
And if that's what they want to do, they are
allowed to do whatever they want with their money. I
personally will be damned if I'm buying a house for
a rich person.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
That's just not something I'm.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
About to do here, right, Like, And if I'm Dad,
I am like, yo, thanks, but no thanks. Falla's Like
my father always said this, and this is important that
children are not supposed to be responsible for the well
being of their parents, right That's just not how this
game is supposed to go. And a lot of us
live unhealthily because that is how we wind up being.
I'm not saying we myself. I'm not telling on myself,
(09:22):
but you understand what I'm talking about. We all know
those people. And buying your father a house, to me
is just a little bit different, right. He couldn't be me,
would not be me. My daddy wouldn't take the house.
It's just a little odd. But again, okay, you get
to be as stupid as you want to be. That's
your option in this country.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
So you and just go holm. Let you go ahead
and say what you got to say about it. How
do you feel about your agreeable money?
Speaker 2 (09:47):
I don't agree or disagree. I literally don't care. But
I know we were going to talk about the comments
and people's reactions to it, and so, you know, I
think how you react to what you consume on social
media's more reflection of how you feel about yourself. So
somebody saw that clip and was inspired. Somebody else was
you know, excited, somebody else was upset or annoyed. So
(10:07):
I feel like, you know, Bomani's opinion is based on
how he feels and what his dad told him, and
so I think everybody who's making their comments is based
on how they feel about it. Now, if you have
money and you buy somebody something whose business is that
other than you and the person you gave it to.
So I literally don't care. Now, do I think that
college kids being able to afford things like that and
(10:28):
buying things familiaires? You know, we see it all the
times with celebrity couples, especially when they share what gifts
they give to each other when all of them can
buy it themselves. Yeah, that whole thing is weird and
in general, but you know, sign me up for a manager.
Anybody who wants to buy me a man, I am
accepting it. Send it the money.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Say this right fast, though you say it's none of
our business, except for the fact that they told us
right we didn't snoop around. We didn't snoop around to
find out that this is what they do. They went
out of their way to tell us. You can't say
it's not just their business. They did this for people
to talk about it, and you have opinions because they
wanted us to know. Once you decide you want people
to know, you got to deal with what happens.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
With what people know.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
You can't tell them how they supposed to react to it,
you know. So I don't care in the way that
you don't care. But at the same time I can
acknowledge this. Wow, bro, I find this to be wild.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
I mean, but how well is it? Though? Like you
know you're talking about this is the way of the
world right now. These are some kids right now that
are making millions of dollars because of this is the
way of culture in the college football ranks right now.
When it comes to nil Shador Sanders will start to
make them for importantly, four to five million dollars last
year just alone on his endorsements at the University of Colorado,
(11:40):
and he's gonna be making more money when he goes
to the NFL eventually when he's drafted as a first
round pick. We'll assume next year. What is the difference
in this Bomani and somebody saying, hey, you know what,
you know, I finally made it. You did this so
much for me as a kid, Mama or daddy, let
me buy your house. I don't care if he's rich
or not.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
People who because the people who normally do that are poor.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
They don't like you don't hear.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
About none of these such and such juniors whose dad
played in the league. Arch Man, they ain't gonna buy
no house for Peyton and Eli. That's preposterous.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
I get that. But if he wants to show his
dad the love, or they show the dad the love
that their dad gave to them raising them to get
to get them to this point, maybe they don't feel
like they're in this position unless their dad put it
together for them to raise them in the right proper way,
to get them to the point when it comes to
their physical being, their mental being, uh, their their their their,
(12:37):
their intellectual being or whatnot, to be able to put
themselves in that position, to be able to get this money,
to be able to give their dad something back in return.
It's just a gesture at the end of the day.
So maybe a lot of their.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Love language though right there is their love language. Dion
is a flashy guy.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
He did any buy them a watch, not even a car. Okay, hey,
not just a house by the way, A man man, yes,
and yes, Dion did a lot, you know, and live
with what you talking about. But first of all, uh,
Dion Jr. He ain't going to the league. He's a
social media man. Let's start there. You know in the league,
(13:18):
number number two, Mike, you worked in sports like I've
worked in sports. We both know good and damn well,
you can't be assuming first round pick money is coming
down the line. And I don't know if Shiloh Sanders
is an NFL defensive back. I don't really hear all
that talk. They may be making all this money right now,
that's cool. It would be wise of them to stack
some of that money up rather than buying a house
(13:40):
for somebody who got a house. Ain't got a five
million dollar a year job. Me again, not the way
that I would give get down. But they show love,
like you said, they love languages different than the way
that I would show love.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
I just know this for real.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
My daddy would not accept this period, not under the circumstances.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
No chance.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Yeah, I think it's just a case of you know,
we we don't know uh what their future holds. You know,
you would hope everyone is being financially prudent. And you know,
Dion has never been one of those athletes that has
shared necessarily that he's gone broken. He's always been a
very flashy guy. And so maybe they know something we
don't know that he's been able to teach them something
about money that they have a lot of money to blow.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Absolutely and here's the thing. We gotta understand. You're in Colorado.
Colorado's house prices aren't like California Scots price. I mean,
I'm just saying, get you a nice mansion.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
And nobody talking in all these circles to try to
make this scenem normal except the fact that it's about
Das is this is this is, this is weird old
di odd stuff. Again, popping off is not going to
act like it's normal.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
So if it wasn't Dion, if it was somebody else,
if it was Arch Manning buying a house for his dad,
would you feel the same way.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Here's my question for you.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
If it was anybody else with this behalf and.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Then I probably saw I mean, we'll probably talking about it.
Arch mann In buying all these all these athletes whose
kids are now getting on and we seeing them all
over the place.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
When you heard about any of them buying.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
A daddy house, maybe they just didn't share it.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Who is the one out of all of these that
we done heard about who we done heard about buying
a daddy house?
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Well, maybe they just don't have with kids out there,
I would sit now my kids, I told you, man,
my kids jobs, I have taken care of my kids
all their lives. They got good money and all I
got is a shirt. But I'm appreciative of that shirt.
Don't give me wrong.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
But that's how you know this.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
But you know that's what it's supposed to be. But
you know that's the game, man, like you know that's
the game.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Let me offer this idea. More than likely, these children
have been growing up and mansions their whole lives. They
probably have been having conversations about you work hard, you
could buy a mansion. One day, y'all will be able
to buy me a mansion. Maybe that was just a
moment that they said, hey, guys, let's buy dad. Imagine
because we always talked about growing up working hard and
being in a position to do what he's been able
to do for us. I think it was a gesture,
(16:08):
a sentiment. Does Leon Sanders need a house? Does he
need help buying a house? Is he a millia? All
those things are non debatable, right, but I think it
was a gesture. They are a flashy family. That is
what they are known for. And I think some people
were inspired, some people were disgusted, and uh, you know again,
they can do what they want to do.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
If I went to dinner with Dion Sanders, and I've
been making a lot of money for a long time,
if I went to dinner with Dion Sanders, I'll be
damned if I reach for my wallet.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
But it is the gesture. It's the gesture.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Particularly you can't. You can't spend your whole adult life
throwing your money in my face and think I'm throwing
any of it back.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
These are his children. Spend his life taking care of
these children.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Boy, they are his children.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
You're not supposed to be taking stuff back that.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
From your children. That's your job.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
That's what you want there to do, is to buy
stuff for them.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Well, maybe they just put the down payment on the house,
and maybe theon is gonna say care of the payments
from I gotta get you that.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
That thirty years, thirty years of beholdness to the bank.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
That's what I bought you.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
That that hold on that he can afford, and that
he's gonna make equity, because real estate always makes equity.
So give me.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
And that's and that's exactly my point as to why
if he can afford the note, don't buy my I can.
This is a level of this weirdo capitalists by somebody
at LLC is a gift culture that I just can't
subscribe to. I just maybe it'll be some big equity.
What do I need anybody else's money for?
Speaker 1 (17:50):
He doesn't.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
He doesn't.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
That that's what makes but that's what makes the gift
even better is because he does not need it. But
his his kids got so much back from Deon growing
up being put in this position because of Prime. A
lot of the note rose they get is because of Prime.
The nil money they get is because of Prime, not
just because this.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
Is the whole and this is my whole problem with
everything around Dion. It's always because of Dion, every single thing.
This is not like a coult leading. It's not like
you're talking about a cult leader right now. Is not
everything that everything that they got goes back to down.
It ain't none of the hard work, It ain't none
of their talent, it ain't none of that. These boys
may not be able to these boys might not have
a mansion for themselves by the time it's all set
and double, but they got to pay back. They debt
(18:34):
to Dion, and grown people act like this is okay.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
It is not okay.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Here's a thing they if it doesn't work out, they
can go back home and living and mansion that the
band for that they pay for. I mean, that's equity
once play.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
But let me offer this. Everybody that you know and
love in your life has a different thing that they appreciate.
You might buy somebody a pair of shoes or give
somebody a gift card based on what you know they enjoy.
They grew up with a flashy dad who likes man
and so guess what. They're still young. They don't know
what's all available, and so in their.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
Minds they wanted to do some old flashy stuff that
we know di I like, they could get them a chain,
they could get them some Gucci. Okay, so.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Oh no, I got to be it.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
I got admit.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
I've been in this place many times in my life,
and I know what's going on.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
You is just throwing anything all out there.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Just Hey, but what.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
About the relationship between a father and a son. We
don't know their relationship, We don't know their love language,
we don't know what they've talked about. And this was
a dream that they said, Hey one day, boys, why
we here?
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Because we don't know they Why am I here?
Speaker 2 (19:45):
I'm saying. I'm saying to you, yes it's flashy, Yes
it might be obnoxious, But we don't know the backstory
of why those kids would have done that at this
time for their dad. We don't know. They just said, hey,
they bought me a mansion.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
I that's all I'm asking, that's all I'm basic, last
last coming. If they bought him a change, they bought
him a change for two hundred, three hundred thousand dollars
with all the bleing out and the watches and all
that type of stuff, Like, why not buy some real
estate that's gonna grow in an investment.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
I did it all to be in point taste myself.
That's my own personal opinion. I find it all to
be in poor taste. So you raise a fair point.
It would be far more logical to put three hundred
thousand dollars on a house than to put it on
a chain. But one thing we both know is ain't
by d I, no damn three hundred thousand dollar house.
That d I would not wipe his keysture with the
(20:33):
toilet paper in a three hundred thousand dollars house.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
But that's the down payment, That's what I'm saying. It
could be the down payment. If it's a two million dollars,
I'm I'm just saying anyway.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
Both hain't even going into a one and a half
million dollar house.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Twenty percent of that, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
That could be pretty good. And like I said, they
could just put the down payment on. Anyway, we don't
know the whole of it. But once again, here's the
thing we're talking about it which we probably shouldn't be
talking about because it relay in our business. Like you said,
they put it out there forball business, but what they
want to spend their money on is up to them.
That's how you are right.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
They get to do whatever they want and I get
to say whatever I want.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
And they they.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
They sound like some weird those. I'm not saying they
are weird those, but they sound like some weird those.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
It' rich weird to me. So rituals BO. That's what
we love you, man, because you know what you are
not afraid to speak your mind, my brother, man, keep
on being your unadult rated just straight shooting self. Man.
We love you, We appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Man.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Where can we I know we're watching out at the
right time with Bomney Jones in the podcast. What else
you got going on for us?
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Real quick man, that's the big thing right now.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
Check us out we on YouTube, also available wherever you
can get your fine podcast.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
That's the best way to find me right now.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
My man, bo Miney Jones, always great senior brother.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
All right, man, y'all take it easy.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Bomney Jones. Man, we're gonna take a quick break. We're
gonna come right back with more than there have been there.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
You know, I got something to say about men talking
about relationships. When I tell you, there is nothing that
almost burns my heart as much as when men have
microphones and they're talking about relationships.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Okay, so you're talking about Shaquille on Neil, and this
is interesting is because.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
I'm talking about all y'all, but we're going to talk
about you.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Well, I think men are in relationships too. Do we
have not? Do we not have a nine? I'm not
gonna get all tracked. So Shaquille O'Neil on his podcast,
you know, he had a country Wayne the comedian, all
very funny guy, and they were talking about relationships and
how Shaq does not open up to a woman when
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he's in a relationship and.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
This country Wayne agreed.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
And well, here's the clip. This is Shaq talking to
Country Wayne on his podcast about the reason why he
does not open up in his relationships.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
You don't think you've ever had someone that you really
could trust and really open up open.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Up to woman? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Ever, no, never, when's the last time you think you've
opened up to a woman?
Speaker 1 (23:05):
We don't in your whole life.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
Bro, i'ma telling you, Oh no, they gonna tell you
again because you know.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Why, because once you do, whenever something going down, they're
gonna throw it back in your face.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
That's what that's why. So you can't have a that's
why you cracked. Your dad left.
Speaker 5 (23:20):
Yeah, even business though, like their rule, We even go
for business like you stay up your countracts keep coming.
So it's just a universal law.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Units. I'll let you take it.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Because one time, when he was twelve. Most men's trauma
about women and relationships was formed and informed from when
they were little kids on the playground, and they had
the devastation of when they were twelve and the little
girl didn't like him back or embarrass him in front
of the class. And so in our forties, in our fifties,
we are reaping the repercussions of a man not healing,
(23:55):
not going on his own journey. Now, for most women,
our most recent heart or the thing that most recently
informed how we feel about man in relationships probably happened
last year, okay, And so that's the unfortunate part. And
beyond that, the way we raise young men in this society,
in this country, little boys are not allowed to cry,
(24:16):
they aren't allowed to be expression, they aren't allowed to
dance or do whatever could be creative to a child,
and so they grow up with a very limited, stunted existence.
If you are a human, you have emotions. Do I
believe some women have thrown a man's emotions back in
his face? Absolutely? But do I believe that woman was
raised in the same society that tells folks that men
aren't supposed to cry, and aren't supposed to be vulnerable,
(24:37):
and aren't supposed to share. And I'm telling you, every
time I see that a man has harmed a woman
in the most violent ways, I know he was hurt
in some way, and he does not have the tools
or the emotional intelligence or bandwidth to communicate. I am hurt,
I am scared, I am sad, And so what happens
is that manifests itself in violence against that woman. And
(24:58):
so it's not funny or cute to me when men
talk about how they don't cry or don't share it, don't. Okay, Yeah,
somebody you're gonna be around the wrong people that are
gonna mishandle you morning, noon, and night. Men, women, you
can't trust everybody with everything, but to just consciously decide
that this is not anything I would ever do with
any woman, and more than likely it's informed from something
thirty five years ago. That's an illness, that's a problem.
(25:20):
The men are unwell and unserious.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
I am applaud of you, units because everything you just
said was spot on. What spot on? You went inside
of my body, inside my soul, my mind, my emotions,
and you spoke directly from me and the things that
I've had to learn because I was that unhealed little
boy that hurt women a long way because of that
(25:46):
toxic masculinity, because I could not open up, because I
could not share my emotions, because I could not share
my feelings when I was fifteen years old, talk about
this all the time, my first heart ache being it
just liting their high school, the high school we went to.
I was with a senior. I was dating a senior,
big thing, big time, whatnot, not gonna say her name
and whatnot. But she hurt me really bad. She hurt me.
(26:09):
I mean I didn't even realize she was hurting me.
I got back to school, we went. We was together
on Friday, and by Monday we had broken up. I
did not know we had broken up. The way I
found out we had broken up is because I was
walking down the hallway just in near high school and
she was holding another boy's hands. She was holding his hands,
and it hurt me. And I saw the entire school
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see this and look at me. And from then on out,
I got in my mind because I was hurt. I
would never put myself in that position ever again. I
would never share my emotions with this girl, because on
that Friday, I had told a woman, a girl, for
the first time, that I loved her. I opened up.
I mean it was like Luther Vandros was playing, We
was in the car, we was at the football game,
(26:51):
we was making out or whatnot. It was the right
time and it felt like deep from my inner gut,
my emotions, my feelings. I told this girl, I love you.
And she looked at me, and I say this in
all sincerity, she looked at me like I had farted
in her face, like and walked out the car and
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I didn't even realize.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
And every woman that you have met ever since has
been paying for what happened to you as a child.
In engaging with a child, everyone was a child, and
no one was matured. No one knew how to engage
in interact lovingly and caring. But that's still our own responsibilities.
And so what's unfortunate as adults, big age adults, a
(27:38):
lot of people haven't done the healing. And so for
women trying to engage with men. And I'm somebody that
and I have conversations with my girlfriends. I have girlfriends
that don't want to see a man cry. I don't
mind seeing a man cry if something sad or whatever.
I think it's weird if you're not emotional. But I
also know a lot of women don't feel that way.
I know women who have sons who talk about the
(27:59):
only way my son allowed to cry is if it's
at my funeral. I'm like, that's not healthy. It's a
human thing to have emotions and to react and so
I know it's prevalent. But just like women can can
have ingrain misogyny, just like black people can have ingrain racism.
We have been raising this culture and society that has
done a number on all of us, and as much
as we can know something might not be right, we
(28:20):
still lead with that bad information. And so it broke
my heart to see Shaq say that. It broke my
heart for every woman he's ever spent time with. It
breaks my heart for women all over the world. You know,
I talk about being retired from dating because this is
the men that I'm meeting, is when you're there and
you're sharing, and again, we all have been hurt. I
would say more women have more heartbreaks on the record
(28:42):
than men, because once that man had that heartbreak at fifteen. Oh,
it wasn't even on the table.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Though, hold on, let me start right there. So so
so let me start right there. So when you said
more women have had more heartbreaks than men on the record,
you're right because men won't put it on the record
now because we get hurt before, we will never be
able and we don't have an outlet.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
A lot of times you would put yourself in that
position again, would.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
I wouldn't be No, no, no, no, no, no no,
I said, for the longest time, I would. I put
myself in that position. That's why I went out and
I was doing the things I was doing because in
the back of my mind, I'm like, I'm going to
get you before you get me. You're not gonna cheat
on me before I cheat on you. That was my mindset.
And at that time, I was hurting. I was crying, man,
But there was nobody, no male counterpart I could go
(29:26):
to and say, Man, she hurt me. Women a lot
of times. If you hurt man, fucking girl, fucking ain't
shit anyway. Blah blah blah blah. Let's go eat some
ice creams or whatever, blah blah. You have, you'll have that.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
You know what, that's a nineteen seventy five reference.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
You know, I'm just saying, no, no, no, whatever you do.
Whatever you guys do. You watch movies, you watch Netflix,
y'all cuddle with each other and all that type of
stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
We literally have a girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
No, I'm not saying you there are a lot of
women that will cuddle. Well, you know what I'm saying,
you actually have a tribe. You actually have someone that
you can actually run to the same sex that will
be there for you, that will understand because maybe they
went through the same thing. For men, we hold that
in and that is wrong. So I'm agreeing with everything
(30:11):
that you're seeing. Maybe we don't have the same type
of references or the movie and movements that other people have,
but we've seen other people have that, and like I said,
it affected me for so many years. Not making excuses.
Once again, I always tell you, I don't make excuses
for the things that I've done to women because of that.
That was me not taking care of myself and not
(30:32):
healing my unhealed version of myself to become a better person.
It wasn't until I realized what I had done and
how it had affected me since I was fifteen years old.
By the age of forty five, like you said, a
big age that this is where that stems from, and
this is the reason why I went there, that I
started to get help. But even then, even then, the
last time I cried and from a woman, I was woman.
(30:54):
I was like forty seven years old, and this is
right before I started getting helped. I was going through
some emotional stuff I didn't even realize. And so I'm
tell you my book. I had a lot of emotions
inside me or whatever, and I was outside and the
girl that I really liked, I teared up and she said,
are you crying? And I'm like yeah, she and she said,
give me a hug. Gave her a hug. But guess
(31:17):
what she did. She went back inside and told her
best friend in one of my friends, oh, it's bitch
ass outside crying. Seriously, that made me want to just
ball back up again. And here's the problem when you
do that. And I'm not saying that it's wrong, because,
like you said, you have some of your friends who
won't allow men to cry and similar. So I asked
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the women right now, if you want to see men
get better, first of all, men got to take care
of themselves. It's their responsibility to make sure that they
put in the emotional work necessarily because you're not responsible
for their emotional labor. I get that. But if you
want to help them and help a better society to
get rid of some of this stuff that's out there
when it comes to the men and the actions that
the men have, not making it your responsibility. So please
(31:59):
don't take this the wrong way, please be more understanding.
Just just like women have feelings and emotions and they
gotta let it out, men have feelings and emotions. They
gotta let it out too, and they need to have
a safe outlet. And if that means my girl, I
need to be able to let that out to my girl,
because if I don't, I'm gonna hold it in. And
if I hold it in, guess what's gonna come out?
(32:21):
Toxic masculinity. So you don't want that. So what I'm
saying is with Shaq is saying with Country wean't and saying,
I pray that these brothers realize that, Hey, if you're
with this girl and she wants to throw it back
in your face, then guess what, you're with the wrong
fucking girl.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
You're with the wrong one. That's exactly it. And that's
what I'm saying so many times, and men and women
both do it. Someone engages and interacts with us in
a way that makes us change who we are. No,
that just wasn't the person that was for you. And
so the reason why I retired is because this consistently
I'm meeting men who were successful, who were big ages,
(32:57):
but had not done any healing had not done any work,
and I thought, you know what, I'm not gonna let
them take me down to where they are. I've had
my heartbroken plenty of times. I've had plenty of disappointments,
and I take what I can learn from that. And
so me and my girlfriends don't eat ice cream and cuddle,
but we talk about what happened, and you say, you
know what. I see where I went wrong. I see
how I made that okay the first time when it
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wasn't okay, and that's why we got to the fifth time.
And so all I can do is say, what can
I learn and how can I make this not a
choice for me next time? I'm retired because I never
really enjoyed the process. I wasn't having fun dating. I
never dated anybody who I was having a great time with.
I just decided that, hey, I tend to not be
heartbroken when these situations in I tend to feel relieved.
(33:41):
So maybe this is not something that I need to
keep engaging with. And that's a whole nother tipic for
another day, the retirement of dating. I'm sure we'll get
into that one day. But as far as I love that,
you can articulate your journey. And there are so and
you know, and I know, there are so many men
who are holding on that hurt from a child, that
a child inflicted on them. And all of us have
(34:03):
to take responsibility for how we engage as adults. No
one has anything to do with how they were raised, right,
but you do have responsibility for how you move in
the world as an adult. And we are all, uh,
the fabric, We all the threads are something that happened
to us. And it's just wrong to then inflict pain
on someone because someone inflicted pain on you.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Amen, shut h well, it happens.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Yes, stop that. Let's gonna stop that. Stop that time
from one of my favorite segments segments of the show
is stopped that. Uh. I have a long list always
my entire life, I never had a platform to just
tell people to stop doing stuff. Okay, so it kind
of I want people to stop doing a lot of stuff.
We had a great conversation with Bumoni Jones about Dionne Sanders. Uh,
a spiritual conversation, if you will. Uh. What I want
(34:50):
people to stop is projecting what you think and feel
onto what other people are doing in their lives. We
all have a very individual journey. We all have different backgrounds, upbringing, thoughts, dreams,
which is, and hopes, and so when we see people
living out whatever their dream is, it's a projection of
how you feel good bad. And otherwise, when you take
what they enjoy and you take it as a negative
or you feel as a negative. And I think the
(35:11):
comments that we saw on the Sanders boys buying their
dad a mansion, that's their business, right, Yeah, they put
it out publicly. We have a right to comment, we
have a right to feel. But when I consume things
on the internet, it's a reflection of how I feel
about myself. My feed it was a reflection of how
I feel about myself. So either I'm going to be informed,
I'm going to be inspired, or I'm going to feel insecure.
(35:32):
Guess what, I never feel insecure because I'm not an
insecure person. But if you see somebody having a beautiful
time and your response is must be nice that you
can have a beautiful time, then that is a reflection
of how you feel about your life. It's not a
reflection about anything that person is doing. And so go
find your good time. So when you see people having
a good time, you say, Oh, that's dope. Let me
(35:52):
look into how I can do that. Oh that's dope.
I need to find more things that I enjoy versus oh,
must be nice. You can do that, and I can't
stop it.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Stop that. I like that. I was gonna do something
different for stop that, but you got me thinking right now.
So stop asking people to do things that you wouldn't
do for your damn self. When when it comes to rights,
when it comes to social issues and all that type
of stuff like that. We got so many people out
there that's always saying, well, you a public figure, you
(36:20):
shouldn't do this, you shouldn't do that, you shouldn't do that,
you should quit your job, you should stop doing this,
you should not work for them, or whatever. If you
were in my shoes, you wouldn't do the same damn thing.
So stop asking celebrities, public figures, or whoever it is
somebody who has some kind of platform to stop doing
things that if you were in that same position, that
you wouldn't do. Stop when it comes to the Shilot
(36:42):
Sanders and should do a Sanders of the world or
the Deon Sander's of the world that if you're in
that position and somebody gives you a mansion, or you
want to give somebody a mansion. I saw comments where
they said, hey, they should give that money to charity.
They probably do give a lot of money to charity.
But are you giving two three men on a charity
if you're making the money that they're making, No, you're
(37:04):
probably not. Just because they're rich doesn't mean that they
can't spend some money, doesn't mean that they can't have
a certain lifestyle. They work hard for that lifestyle or whatnot.
I understand that there's a difference between the rich and
the poor in this country, and we gotta kind of
come together and become make it a little bit more socialist.
I get that, understand that because I have feelings for
the people who don't have. I'm very fortunate. I'm very
happy that I have what I have. But stop trying
(37:25):
to tell other people what to do or how to
do it. If you yourself put in that same situation,
wre not doing yourself. So stop that.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
And we never know what we would do in any
situation until we have done there and been that, and
then you'll start a podcast to talk about it.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
This is a funny episode, but Mannie Jones. You know
that was my first time meeting him and interacting with him.
I can't wait until he invites me on his podcast
to talk to like I was just pulling stuff out
of the sky.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Oh, I knew that was pope. I knew I heard that.
I just you should have seen my face when he
did like this. He started doing a hand movement too.
I'm like, oh, my.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Goodness, did you say it? I was like, damn, I
thought this was my podcast.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
I'm like, oh, I'm like, bruh, I've been let me
tell you some we eight episodes in, I've already felt
the raffle. Seven episodes leave me both mine. I'm I
should have told him, should.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Have called no, let's do it. Let's do it. Let's
let's do it.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Just do it. Let's continue to support the podcast. Please subscribe, like,
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(38:46):
and keep it bringing to you so once again, thanks
for all the help, all the comments, all the love,
all the support, and thank you units for making another
outstanding episode.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Likewise, Mike right back at you. I'll see you next week.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
We will see you next week, and have done there
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
You nest that much? Mike? How have you been?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
I have been. We'll get to that in just a second,
but we got a dope episode for you guys. First
of all, thank you for all the support and all
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There Been That Podcast. Got a great episode. We're talking
to some great topics. Of course, the super Bowl we're
(00:43):
gonna talk about. We're gonna talk about emotions, one of
unit's favorite UH topics to talk about. We're gonna talk
about Dion Sanders and his sons buying him a mansion
in Colorado. And we got a special guest to talk
about that, the great Bomani Jones is going to join
in us a little bit later on in the show,
the Super Bowl is set. I got admit, I'm a
(01:05):
little disappointed because the Chiefs and the Niners in it.
Nothing against the Chiefs of the Niners, so don't come
for me their fans. But I wanted to. I wanted
to Detroit Baltimore Super Bowl just because of their fans.
Kanyac Boat. I wanted the Innsent Bowl, you know what
I mean. I wanted some the Cigar Bowl. I wanted
some now later Gator Bowl, but that did not happen.
(01:25):
So little disappointing in Baltimore because they kind of didn't
show up when they needed to show up in the
biggest game of the year. And of course Detroit. I
don't want to say they choked, but you know when
you got to say a team point lead in the
game like that, that magnitude that was to watch.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
I didn't have a dog in either favor watching that
that Lions game. You know you saw the fans being
excited like we finally made it, and to see it
just go away, it was I've actually felt bad I
read it.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
So, so that was my question. Since this is the
done there been that podcast, we always talk about like
ways to make it seem like you've been in that position.
Have you ever been in a position where you were
in a big spot spot and you've been waiting for
for a long time or maybe even your entire life,
and you get that one opportunity and for some reason
(02:12):
you did not nail it or didn't come through or
things didn't go as planned.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Well, I would say every audition I've ever had, well,
it's not because of any shortcoming or failing on my party.
Just that wasn't my time, that wasn't my opportunity. But
I will tell you a lot of times people ask me,
do I get nervous before I go on stage? And
I don't. But the reason why I don't is when
I was a very young person, just you know, doing
public speaking, you know in school and in classes, I
(02:38):
would get really nervous and I would not do it
as well as I knew I could do it, and
it would just eat me up. Right after I finished,
I was like, oh, I knew how to do it,
and my nerves took me out of that. So I
tend to get nervous after I've done something big because
nerves don't serve me. Some people nerves, you know, serve them.
It calls that adrenaline boost and it makes me better.
Nerves do not serve me well, so I do not
(02:59):
allow myself to get nervous. But a lot of times
I have gotten off some big stages and then I
look back and say, who, I can't believe I did that.
But I would say I don't think I've had the
big moment that I didn't rise to the occasion. Most
of my auditions, I tend to do them especially great.
Right after I do the audition and get in the
car and I do it again, I'm like, Oh, that
was it, that was the one right there? Yeah, yeah,
(03:20):
what about what about?
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Nerves are great for me. I love nerds. That's why
I'm always so hyped because I have nervous energy. So
I'm like, if you don't see me right now with
my legs under the table, I'm always moving. So I
love that. But I use that as that energy, and
it used me to kind of keep the adrenaline going,
because sometimes my mind kind of zones out or whatnot.
But I have been in a position once before I
finally got a show. When I got here the Fox
right ESPN was there just toil and doing all these
(03:43):
different shows at ESPN, doing every show in a building,
but I never got my show. And so when I
finally got here the Fox, I finally got my show.
After about a year and a half, well about a year,
they gave me a show. It's called The America's pre Game,
and it was my show hosting, and I felt like
I did not nail it the way I should have.
And the reason why I didn't nail it the way
I should have because I didn't take ownership of it.
(04:05):
I tried to make it a show where I had
a co host. Well she wasn't my co host, but
she was a newsreader on the show, and I tried
to make her the co host, and my agent, my
manager kept saying, stop giving her so much credit. And
I wasn't trying to hate her. I was trying to
make her feel part of the team. And I should
have taken full advantage of that. I should have taken
about of horns and basically said, no, this is my opportunity,
(04:26):
this is my show. But because I guess I was
too unselfish, I allowed the opportunity to get away from
me and not put my stamp on it and put
my name on it the way I needed to. So
I've always said that if I get another opportunity like that,
where I actually get a show like America's pregame, where
I can hold something, where I really can take ownership up,
(04:47):
I'm definitely gonna do that from here on out. And
so I felt like I was at Detroit Lines back
in the day when America's pregame finally got canceled. Now
it got canceled because they wanted to go into the
direction of more debate. But what I should have done
is taken it show which was kind of previewing all
of the Knights games big games for that evening, and
made it a little bit more of a conversation, made
(05:08):
it a little bit more of a debate, put my
stamp on it, and made myself a little bit more memorable.
And I promise I will never do that again. So
if I'm every in that position again, I won't fail.
Detroit Lions. You every in that position again the NFC
Championship game, don't fail. Get to the super Bowl and
win it on That's a lesson for all of us
right there.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
And I think also, you know, there's no one moment,
especially in a team sport, you can have that, you know,
miss last field goal or a fumble or interception, all
those things, but it's you played the sixty minutes. It's
a collection of each moment, and I just hate when
people do fall short that then it comes down on
the person that the time ran out on, you know,
It's like, hey, we've been playing for sixty minutes. Everybody
(05:47):
had a job, everyone has to execute. I think I
don't have kids, but I always my heart breaks for
the field goal kicker who misses it, you know, especially
in college, and he becomes the pariah of the team,
and I'm like, listen, there was a reason why we
needed the field goal. Y'all didn't do it. Y'allt need
to do the whole time. I've been over here stretching,
you know. And so I think, uh, in most situations
in team sports, everybody you know, has a different thing
(06:08):
that they can think of what they would have done.
It's a little bit tougher when you are at an
individual and you feel like you didn't step up. That
can sometimes eat you up. But I honestly believe that
everything happens exactly the way it should, the wins, the losses,
and you learn more from your losses than you do
your wins. And so it's like, hey, just charge it
to the game and it might it might not even
make it as a scene in my made for TV
(06:29):
movie Who knows. I don't give it too much energy.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
I agree. I think something like you said, your losses
are just as important because, like I said last week,
sometimes when you're down in dumps, man, those are the
times when you learn your best lessons that will prepare
you for that next shot. The only issue is you
don't know when that next shot is going to happen or.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
If, but you know you'll be ready.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
But you know that.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
You've been prepared.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
So I'm ready. I'm ready. Somebody give me another show.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
You know what I'm saying. Look at Mike is a issue.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Talk show, not just sports, pop culture, entertainment, lifestyle, relationships.
Y'all know how great I am. Relationships. You need to
come home. Let your boy.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
We are excited to have a guest with us today,
our first guest on Done There have been that the.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
First ever guess and we are so honored to have
this guy one as a guest because he is well,
he's doing his thing, He's been doing his thing for
years of ESPN and other outlets HBO. This guy is
phenomenal with everything he does, not just in sports, but
about the culture. He is the host of the Right
Time with Bomani Jones. Everybody knows him already. He needs
no introduction, but we're gonna give it to him right now.
(07:37):
Bomani Jones hanging out with us here on the Done
there Ben that podcast. What's up, Bobani?
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Hey man, I'm doing all right. How about y'all?
Speaker 1 (07:45):
But we cannot complain. We can, I would be much better.
We're gonna jump right into it. If I was prime
time Deon Sanders, man, if I had kids like prime
I don't know if you saw this or not, but
the other day it was announced on Instagram. They put
it out on us the ESPN page that Deon Sanders,
who of courses, the coach of the Colorado Buffalo's, his kids,
(08:06):
his boys beyond Junior, Shador and Shiloh, actually bought him
a mansion in Colorado. Deon came out. He was talking
about how happy he was and how blessed they were
passing a law to them or whatnot, and they were
happy to give it to them. But the reaction. Bo
money has not been what I thought it would be
when it comes to some good boys trying to show
(08:28):
their dad some love. And I'm wondering how you feel
about that. I'm pretty sure you've seen the clip, and
I'm wondering what you think about that and your take
on that.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Oh, it's the most ridiculous shit I ever seen in
my life.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
I AI, And look, they are allowed to do whatever
they want with their money. It's kind of weird that
they have enough money to buy a house befitting of
Dion Saders.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
That's a whole different discussion for another day.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
And if that's what they want to do, they are
allowed to do whatever they want with their money. I
personally will be damned if I'm buying a house for
a rich person.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
That's just not something I'm.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
About to do here, right, Like, And if I'm Dad,
I am like, yo, thanks, but no thanks. Falla's Like
my father always said this, and this is important that
children are not supposed to be responsible for the well
being of their parents, right That's just not how this
game is supposed to go. And a lot of us
live unhealthily because that is how we wind up being.
I'm not saying we myself. I'm not telling on myself,
(09:22):
but you understand what I'm talking about. We all know
those people. And buying your father a house, to me
is just a little bit different, right. He couldn't be me,
would not be me. My daddy wouldn't take the house.
It's just a little odd. But again, okay, you get
to be as stupid as you want to be. That's
your option in this country.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
So you and just go holm. Let you go ahead
and say what you got to say about it. How
do you feel about your agreeable money?
Speaker 2 (09:47):
I don't agree or disagree. I literally don't care. But
I know we were going to talk about the comments
and people's reactions to it, and so, you know, I
think how you react to what you consume on social
media's more reflection of how you feel about yourself. So
somebody saw that clip and was inspired. Somebody else was
you know, excited, somebody else was upset or annoyed. So
(10:07):
I feel like, you know, Bomani's opinion is based on
how he feels and what his dad told him, and
so I think everybody who's making their comments is based
on how they feel about it. Now, if you have
money and you buy somebody something whose business is that
other than you and the person you gave it to.
So I literally don't care. Now, do I think that
college kids being able to afford things like that and
(10:28):
buying things familiaires? You know, we see it all the
times with celebrity couples, especially when they share what gifts
they give to each other when all of them can
buy it themselves. Yeah, that whole thing is weird and
in general, but you know, sign me up for a manager.
Anybody who wants to buy me a man, I am
accepting it. Send it the money.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Say this right fast, though you say it's none of
our business, except for the fact that they told us
right we didn't snoop around. We didn't snoop around to
find out that this is what they do. They went
out of their way to tell us. You can't say
it's not just their business. They did this for people
to talk about it, and you have opinions because they
wanted us to know. Once you decide you want people
to know, you got to deal with what happens.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
With what people know.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
You can't tell them how they supposed to react to it,
you know. So I don't care in the way that
you don't care. But at the same time I can
acknowledge this. Wow, bro, I find this to be wild.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
I mean, but how well is it? Though? Like you
know you're talking about this is the way of the
world right now. These are some kids right now that
are making millions of dollars because of this is the
way of culture in the college football ranks right now.
When it comes to nil Shador Sanders will start to
make them for importantly, four to five million dollars last
year just alone on his endorsements at the University of Colorado,
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and he's gonna be making more money when he goes
to the NFL eventually when he's drafted as a first
round pick. We'll assume next year. What is the difference
in this Bomani and somebody saying, hey, you know what,
you know, I finally made it. You did this so
much for me as a kid, Mama or daddy, let
me buy your house. I don't care if he's rich
or not.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
People who because the people who normally do that are poor.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
They don't like you don't hear.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
About none of these such and such juniors whose dad
played in the league. Arch Man, they ain't gonna buy
no house for Peyton and Eli. That's preposterous.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
I get that. But if he wants to show his
dad the love, or they show the dad the love
that their dad gave to them raising them to get
to get them to this point, maybe they don't feel
like they're in this position unless their dad put it
together for them to raise them in the right proper way,
to get them to the point when it comes to
their physical being, their mental being, uh, their their their their,
(12:37):
their intellectual being or whatnot, to be able to put
themselves in that position, to be able to get this money,
to be able to give their dad something back in return.
It's just a gesture at the end of the day.
So maybe a lot of their.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Love language though right there is their love language. Dion
is a flashy guy.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
He did any buy them a watch, not even a car. Okay, hey,
not just a house by the way, A man man, yes,
and yes, Dion did a lot, you know, and live
with what you talking about. But first of all, uh,
Dion Jr. He ain't going to the league. He's a
social media man. Let's start there. You know in the league,
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number number two, Mike, you worked in sports like I've
worked in sports. We both know good and damn well,
you can't be assuming first round pick money is coming
down the line. And I don't know if Shiloh Sanders
is an NFL defensive back. I don't really hear all
that talk. They may be making all this money right now,
that's cool. It would be wise of them to stack
some of that money up rather than buying a house
(13:40):
for somebody who got a house. Ain't got a five
million dollar a year job. Me again, not the way
that I would give get down. But they show love,
like you said, they love languages different than the way
that I would show love.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
I just know this for real.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
My daddy would not accept this period, not under the circumstances.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
No chance.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Yeah, I think it's just a case of you know,
we we don't know uh what their future holds. You know,
you would hope everyone is being financially prudent. And you know,
Dion has never been one of those athletes that has
shared necessarily that he's gone broken. He's always been a
very flashy guy. And so maybe they know something we
don't know that he's been able to teach them something
about money that they have a lot of money to blow.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Absolutely and here's the thing. We gotta understand. You're in Colorado.
Colorado's house prices aren't like California Scots price. I mean,
I'm just saying, get you a nice mansion.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
And nobody talking in all these circles to try to
make this scenem normal except the fact that it's about
Das is this is this is, this is weird old
di odd stuff. Again, popping off is not going to
act like it's normal.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
So if it wasn't Dion, if it was somebody else,
if it was Arch Manning buying a house for his dad,
would you feel the same way.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Here's my question for you.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
If it was anybody else with this behalf and.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Then I probably saw I mean, we'll probably talking about it.
Arch mann In buying all these all these athletes whose
kids are now getting on and we seeing them all
over the place.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
When you heard about any of them buying.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
A daddy house, maybe they just didn't share it.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Who is the one out of all of these that
we done heard about who we done heard about buying
a daddy house?
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Well, maybe they just don't have with kids out there,
I would sit now my kids, I told you, man,
my kids jobs, I have taken care of my kids
all their lives. They got good money and all I
got is a shirt. But I'm appreciative of that shirt.
Don't give me wrong.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
But that's how you know this.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
But you know that's what it's supposed to be. But
you know that's the game, man, like you know that's
the game.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Let me offer this idea. More than likely, these children
have been growing up and mansions their whole lives. They
probably have been having conversations about you work hard, you
could buy a mansion. One day, y'all will be able
to buy me a mansion. Maybe that was just a
moment that they said, hey, guys, let's buy dad. Imagine
because we always talked about growing up working hard and
being in a position to do what he's been able
to do for us. I think it was a gesture,
(16:08):
a sentiment. Does Leon Sanders need a house? Does he
need help buying a house? Is he a millia? All
those things are non debatable, right, but I think it
was a gesture. They are a flashy family. That is
what they are known for. And I think some people
were inspired, some people were disgusted, and uh, you know again,
they can do what they want to do.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
If I went to dinner with Dion Sanders, and I've
been making a lot of money for a long time,
if I went to dinner with Dion Sanders, I'll be
damned if I reach for my wallet.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
But it is the gesture. It's the gesture.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Particularly you can't. You can't spend your whole adult life
throwing your money in my face and think I'm throwing
any of it back.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
These are his children. Spend his life taking care of
these children.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Boy, they are his children.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
You're not supposed to be taking stuff back that.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
From your children. That's your job.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
That's what you want there to do, is to buy
stuff for them.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Well, maybe they just put the down payment on the house,
and maybe theon is gonna say care of the payments
from I gotta get you that.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
That thirty years, thirty years of beholdness to the bank.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
That's what I bought you.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
That that hold on that he can afford, and that
he's gonna make equity, because real estate always makes equity.
So give me.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
And that's and that's exactly my point as to why
if he can afford the note, don't buy my I can.
This is a level of this weirdo capitalists by somebody
at LLC is a gift culture that I just can't
subscribe to. I just maybe it'll be some big equity.
What do I need anybody else's money for?
Speaker 1 (17:50):
He doesn't.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
He doesn't.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
That that's what makes but that's what makes the gift
even better is because he does not need it. But
his his kids got so much back from Deon growing
up being put in this position because of Prime. A
lot of the note rose they get is because of Prime.
The nil money they get is because of Prime, not
just because this.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
Is the whole and this is my whole problem with
everything around Dion. It's always because of Dion, every single thing.
This is not like a coult leading. It's not like
you're talking about a cult leader right now. Is not
everything that everything that they got goes back to down.
It ain't none of the hard work, It ain't none
of their talent, it ain't none of that. These boys
may not be able to these boys might not have
a mansion for themselves by the time it's all set
and double, but they got to pay back. They debt
(18:34):
to Dion, and grown people act like this is okay.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
It is not okay.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Here's a thing they if it doesn't work out, they
can go back home and living and mansion that the
band for that they pay for. I mean, that's equity
once play.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
But let me offer this. Everybody that you know and
love in your life has a different thing that they appreciate.
You might buy somebody a pair of shoes or give
somebody a gift card based on what you know they enjoy.
They grew up with a flashy dad who likes man
and so guess what. They're still young. They don't know
what's all available, and so in their.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
Minds they wanted to do some old flashy stuff that
we know di I like, they could get them a chain,
they could get them some Gucci. Okay, so.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Oh no, I got to be it.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
I got admit.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
I've been in this place many times in my life,
and I know what's going on.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
You is just throwing anything all out there.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Just Hey, but what.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
About the relationship between a father and a son. We
don't know their relationship, We don't know their love language,
we don't know what they've talked about. And this was
a dream that they said, Hey one day, boys, why
we here?
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Because we don't know they Why am I here?
Speaker 2 (19:45):
I'm saying. I'm saying to you, yes it's flashy, Yes
it might be obnoxious, But we don't know the backstory
of why those kids would have done that at this
time for their dad. We don't know. They just said, hey,
they bought me a mansion.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
I that's all I'm asking, that's all I'm basic, last
last coming. If they bought him a change, they bought
him a change for two hundred, three hundred thousand dollars
with all the bleing out and the watches and all
that type of stuff, Like, why not buy some real
estate that's gonna grow in an investment.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
I did it all to be in point taste myself.
That's my own personal opinion. I find it all to
be in poor taste. So you raise a fair point.
It would be far more logical to put three hundred
thousand dollars on a house than to put it on
a chain. But one thing we both know is ain't
by d I, no damn three hundred thousand dollar house.
That d I would not wipe his keysture with the
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toilet paper in a three hundred thousand dollars house.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
But that's the down payment, That's what I'm saying. It
could be the down payment. If it's a two million dollars,
I'm I'm just saying anyway.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
Both hain't even going into a one and a half
million dollar house.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Twenty percent of that, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
That could be pretty good. And like I said, they
could just put the down payment on. Anyway, we don't
know the whole of it. But once again, here's the
thing we're talking about it which we probably shouldn't be
talking about because it relay in our business. Like you said,
they put it out there forball business, but what they
want to spend their money on is up to them.
That's how you are right.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
They get to do whatever they want and I get
to say whatever I want.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
And they they.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
They sound like some weird those. I'm not saying they
are weird those, but they sound like some weird those.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
It' rich weird to me. So rituals BO. That's what
we love you, man, because you know what you are
not afraid to speak your mind, my brother, man, keep
on being your unadult rated just straight shooting self. Man.
We love you, We appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Man.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Where can we I know we're watching out at the
right time with Bomney Jones in the podcast. What else
you got going on for us?
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Real quick man, that's the big thing right now.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
Check us out we on YouTube, also available wherever you
can get your fine podcast.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
That's the best way to find me right now.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
My man, bo Miney Jones, always great senior brother.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
All right, man, y'all take it easy.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Bomney Jones. Man, we're gonna take a quick break. We're
gonna come right back with more than there have been there.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
You know, I got something to say about men talking
about relationships. When I tell you, there is nothing that
almost burns my heart as much as when men have
microphones and they're talking about relationships.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Okay, so you're talking about Shaquille on Neil, and this
is interesting is because.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
I'm talking about all y'all, but we're going to talk
about you.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Well, I think men are in relationships too. Do we
have not? Do we not have a nine? I'm not
gonna get all tracked. So Shaquille O'Neil on his podcast,
you know, he had a country Wayne the comedian, all
very funny guy, and they were talking about relationships and
how Shaq does not open up to a woman when
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he's in a relationship and.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
This country Wayne agreed.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
And well, here's the clip. This is Shaq talking to
Country Wayne on his podcast about the reason why he
does not open up in his relationships.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
You don't think you've ever had someone that you really
could trust and really open up open.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Up to woman? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Ever, no, never, when's the last time you think you've
opened up to a woman?
Speaker 1 (23:05):
We don't in your whole life.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
Bro, i'ma telling you, Oh no, they gonna tell you
again because you know.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Why, because once you do, whenever something going down, they're
gonna throw it back in your face.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
That's what that's why. So you can't have a that's
why you cracked. Your dad left.
Speaker 5 (23:20):
Yeah, even business though, like their rule, We even go
for business like you stay up your countracts keep coming.
So it's just a universal law.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Units. I'll let you take it.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Because one time, when he was twelve. Most men's trauma
about women and relationships was formed and informed from when
they were little kids on the playground, and they had
the devastation of when they were twelve and the little
girl didn't like him back or embarrass him in front
of the class. And so in our forties, in our fifties,
we are reaping the repercussions of a man not healing,
(23:55):
not going on his own journey. Now, for most women,
our most recent heart or the thing that most recently
informed how we feel about man in relationships probably happened
last year, okay, And so that's the unfortunate part. And
beyond that, the way we raise young men in this society,
in this country, little boys are not allowed to cry,
(24:16):
they aren't allowed to be expression, they aren't allowed to
dance or do whatever could be creative to a child,
and so they grow up with a very limited, stunted existence.
If you are a human, you have emotions. Do I
believe some women have thrown a man's emotions back in
his face? Absolutely? But do I believe that woman was
raised in the same society that tells folks that men
aren't supposed to cry, and aren't supposed to be vulnerable,
(24:37):
and aren't supposed to share. And I'm telling you, every
time I see that a man has harmed a woman
in the most violent ways, I know he was hurt
in some way, and he does not have the tools
or the emotional intelligence or bandwidth to communicate. I am hurt,
I am scared, I am sad, And so what happens
is that manifests itself in violence against that woman. And
(24:58):
so it's not funny or cute to me when men
talk about how they don't cry or don't share it, don't. Okay, Yeah,
somebody you're gonna be around the wrong people that are
gonna mishandle you morning, noon, and night. Men, women, you
can't trust everybody with everything, but to just consciously decide
that this is not anything I would ever do with
any woman, and more than likely it's informed from something
thirty five years ago. That's an illness, that's a problem.
(25:20):
The men are unwell and unserious.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
I am applaud of you, units because everything you just
said was spot on. What spot on? You went inside
of my body, inside my soul, my mind, my emotions,
and you spoke directly from me and the things that
I've had to learn because I was that unhealed little
boy that hurt women a long way because of that
(25:46):
toxic masculinity, because I could not open up, because I
could not share my emotions, because I could not share
my feelings when I was fifteen years old, talk about
this all the time, my first heart ache being it
just liting their high school, the high school we went to.
I was with a senior. I was dating a senior,
big thing, big time, whatnot, not gonna say her name
and whatnot. But she hurt me really bad. She hurt me.
(26:09):
I mean I didn't even realize she was hurting me.
I got back to school, we went. We was together
on Friday, and by Monday we had broken up. I
did not know we had broken up. The way I
found out we had broken up is because I was
walking down the hallway just in near high school and
she was holding another boy's hands. She was holding his hands,
and it hurt me. And I saw the entire school
(26:29):
see this and look at me. And from then on out,
I got in my mind because I was hurt. I
would never put myself in that position ever again. I
would never share my emotions with this girl, because on
that Friday, I had told a woman, a girl, for
the first time, that I loved her. I opened up.
I mean it was like Luther Vandros was playing, We
was in the car, we was at the football game,
(26:51):
we was making out or whatnot. It was the right
time and it felt like deep from my inner gut,
my emotions, my feelings. I told this girl, I love you.
And she looked at me, and I say this in
all sincerity, she looked at me like I had farted
in her face, like and walked out the car and
(27:14):
I didn't even realize.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
And every woman that you have met ever since has
been paying for what happened to you as a child.
In engaging with a child, everyone was a child, and
no one was matured. No one knew how to engage
in interact lovingly and caring. But that's still our own responsibilities.
And so what's unfortunate as adults, big age adults, a
(27:38):
lot of people haven't done the healing. And so for
women trying to engage with men. And I'm somebody that
and I have conversations with my girlfriends. I have girlfriends
that don't want to see a man cry. I don't
mind seeing a man cry if something sad or whatever.
I think it's weird if you're not emotional. But I
also know a lot of women don't feel that way.
I know women who have sons who talk about the
(27:59):
only way my son allowed to cry is if it's
at my funeral. I'm like, that's not healthy. It's a
human thing to have emotions and to react and so
I know it's prevalent. But just like women can can
have ingrain misogyny, just like black people can have ingrain racism.
We have been raising this culture and society that has
done a number on all of us, and as much
as we can know something might not be right, we
(28:20):
still lead with that bad information. And so it broke
my heart to see Shaq say that. It broke my
heart for every woman he's ever spent time with. It
breaks my heart for women all over the world. You know,
I talk about being retired from dating because this is
the men that I'm meeting, is when you're there and
you're sharing, and again, we all have been hurt. I
would say more women have more heartbreaks on the record
(28:42):
than men, because once that man had that heartbreak at fifteen. Oh,
it wasn't even on the table.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Though, hold on, let me start right there. So so
so let me start right there. So when you said
more women have had more heartbreaks than men on the record,
you're right because men won't put it on the record
now because we get hurt before, we will never be
able and we don't have an outlet.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
A lot of times you would put yourself in that
position again, would.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
I wouldn't be No, no, no, no, no, no no,
I said, for the longest time, I would. I put
myself in that position. That's why I went out and
I was doing the things I was doing because in
the back of my mind, I'm like, I'm going to
get you before you get me. You're not gonna cheat
on me before I cheat on you. That was my mindset.
And at that time, I was hurting. I was crying, man,
But there was nobody, no male counterpart I could go
(29:26):
to and say, Man, she hurt me. Women a lot
of times. If you hurt man, fucking girl, fucking ain't
shit anyway. Blah blah blah blah. Let's go eat some
ice creams or whatever, blah blah. You have, you'll have that.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
You know what, that's a nineteen seventy five reference.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
You know, I'm just saying, no, no, no, whatever you do.
Whatever you guys do. You watch movies, you watch Netflix,
y'all cuddle with each other and all that type of
stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
We literally have a girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
No, I'm not saying you there are a lot of
women that will cuddle. Well, you know what I'm saying,
you actually have a tribe. You actually have someone that
you can actually run to the same sex that will
be there for you, that will understand because maybe they
went through the same thing. For men, we hold that
in and that is wrong. So I'm agreeing with everything
(30:11):
that you're seeing. Maybe we don't have the same type
of references or the movie and movements that other people have,
but we've seen other people have that, and like I said,
it affected me for so many years. Not making excuses.
Once again, I always tell you, I don't make excuses
for the things that I've done to women because of that.
That was me not taking care of myself and not
(30:32):
healing my unhealed version of myself to become a better person.
It wasn't until I realized what I had done and
how it had affected me since I was fifteen years old.
By the age of forty five, like you said, a
big age that this is where that stems from, and
this is the reason why I went there, that I
started to get help. But even then, even then, the
last time I cried and from a woman, I was woman.
(30:54):
I was like forty seven years old, and this is
right before I started getting helped. I was going through
some emotional stuff I didn't even realize. And so I'm
tell you my book. I had a lot of emotions
inside me or whatever, and I was outside and the
girl that I really liked, I teared up and she said,
are you crying? And I'm like yeah, she and she said,
give me a hug. Gave her a hug. But guess
(31:17):
what she did. She went back inside and told her
best friend in one of my friends, oh, it's bitch
ass outside crying. Seriously, that made me want to just
ball back up again. And here's the problem when you
do that. And I'm not saying that it's wrong, because,
like you said, you have some of your friends who
won't allow men to cry and similar. So I asked
(31:37):
the women right now, if you want to see men
get better, first of all, men got to take care
of themselves. It's their responsibility to make sure that they
put in the emotional work necessarily because you're not responsible
for their emotional labor. I get that. But if you
want to help them and help a better society to
get rid of some of this stuff that's out there
when it comes to the men and the actions that
the men have, not making it your responsibility. So please
(31:59):
don't take this the wrong way, please be more understanding.
Just just like women have feelings and emotions and they
gotta let it out, men have feelings and emotions. They
gotta let it out too, and they need to have
a safe outlet. And if that means my girl, I
need to be able to let that out to my girl,
because if I don't, I'm gonna hold it in. And
if I hold it in, guess what's gonna come out?
(32:21):
Toxic masculinity. So you don't want that. So what I'm
saying is with Shaq is saying with Country wean't and saying,
I pray that these brothers realize that, Hey, if you're
with this girl and she wants to throw it back
in your face, then guess what, you're with the wrong
fucking girl.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
You're with the wrong one. That's exactly it. And that's
what I'm saying so many times, and men and women
both do it. Someone engages and interacts with us in
a way that makes us change who we are. No,
that just wasn't the person that was for you. And
so the reason why I retired is because this consistently
I'm meeting men who were successful, who were big ages,
(32:57):
but had not done any healing had not done any work,
and I thought, you know what, I'm not gonna let
them take me down to where they are. I've had
my heartbroken plenty of times. I've had plenty of disappointments,
and I take what I can learn from that. And
so me and my girlfriends don't eat ice cream and cuddle,
but we talk about what happened, and you say, you
know what. I see where I went wrong. I see
how I made that okay the first time when it
(33:19):
wasn't okay, and that's why we got to the fifth time.
And so all I can do is say, what can
I learn and how can I make this not a
choice for me next time? I'm retired because I never
really enjoyed the process. I wasn't having fun dating. I
never dated anybody who I was having a great time with.
I just decided that, hey, I tend to not be
heartbroken when these situations in I tend to feel relieved.
(33:41):
So maybe this is not something that I need to
keep engaging with. And that's a whole nother tipic for
another day, the retirement of dating. I'm sure we'll get
into that one day. But as far as I love that,
you can articulate your journey. And there are so and
you know, and I know, there are so many men
who are holding on that hurt from a child, that
a child inflicted on them. And all of us have
(34:03):
to take responsibility for how we engage as adults. No
one has anything to do with how they were raised, right,
but you do have responsibility for how you move in
the world as an adult. And we are all, uh,
the fabric, We all the threads are something that happened
to us. And it's just wrong to then inflict pain
on someone because someone inflicted pain on you.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Amen, shut h well, it happens.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Yes, stop that. Let's gonna stop that. Stop that time
from one of my favorite segments segments of the show
is stopped that. Uh. I have a long list always
my entire life, I never had a platform to just
tell people to stop doing stuff. Okay, so it kind
of I want people to stop doing a lot of stuff.
We had a great conversation with Bumoni Jones about Dionne Sanders. Uh,
a spiritual conversation, if you will. Uh. What I want
(34:50):
people to stop is projecting what you think and feel
onto what other people are doing in their lives. We
all have a very individual journey. We all have different backgrounds, upbringing, thoughts, dreams,
which is, and hopes, and so when we see people
living out whatever their dream is, it's a projection of
how you feel good bad. And otherwise, when you take
what they enjoy and you take it as a negative
or you feel as a negative. And I think the
(35:11):
comments that we saw on the Sanders boys buying their
dad a mansion, that's their business, right, Yeah, they put
it out publicly. We have a right to comment, we
have a right to feel. But when I consume things
on the internet, it's a reflection of how I feel
about myself. My feed it was a reflection of how
I feel about myself. So either I'm going to be informed,
I'm going to be inspired, or I'm going to feel insecure.
(35:32):
Guess what, I never feel insecure because I'm not an
insecure person. But if you see somebody having a beautiful
time and your response is must be nice that you
can have a beautiful time, then that is a reflection
of how you feel about your life. It's not a
reflection about anything that person is doing. And so go
find your good time. So when you see people having
a good time, you say, Oh, that's dope. Let me
(35:52):
look into how I can do that. Oh that's dope.
I need to find more things that I enjoy versus oh,
must be nice. You can do that, and I can't
stop it.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Stop that. I like that. I was gonna do something
different for stop that, but you got me thinking right now.
So stop asking people to do things that you wouldn't
do for your damn self. When when it comes to rights,
when it comes to social issues and all that type
of stuff like that. We got so many people out
there that's always saying, well, you a public figure, you
(36:20):
shouldn't do this, you shouldn't do that, you shouldn't do that,
you should quit your job, you should stop doing this,
you should not work for them, or whatever. If you
were in my shoes, you wouldn't do the same damn thing.
So stop asking celebrities, public figures, or whoever it is
somebody who has some kind of platform to stop doing
things that if you were in that same position, that
you wouldn't do. Stop when it comes to the Shilot
(36:42):
Sanders and should do a Sanders of the world or
the Deon Sander's of the world that if you're in
that position and somebody gives you a mansion, or you
want to give somebody a mansion. I saw comments where
they said, hey, they should give that money to charity.
They probably do give a lot of money to charity.
But are you giving two three men on a charity
if you're making the money that they're making, No, you're
(37:04):
probably not. Just because they're rich doesn't mean that they
can't spend some money, doesn't mean that they can't have
a certain lifestyle. They work hard for that lifestyle or whatnot.
I understand that there's a difference between the rich and
the poor in this country, and we gotta kind of
come together and become make it a little bit more socialist.
I get that, understand that because I have feelings for
the people who don't have. I'm very fortunate. I'm very
happy that I have what I have. But stop trying
(37:25):
to tell other people what to do or how to
do it. If you yourself put in that same situation,
wre not doing yourself. So stop that.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
And we never know what we would do in any
situation until we have done there and been that, and
then you'll start a podcast to talk about it.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
This is a funny episode, but Mannie Jones. You know
that was my first time meeting him and interacting with him.
I can't wait until he invites me on his podcast
to talk to like I was just pulling stuff out
of the sky.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Oh, I knew that was pope. I knew I heard that.
I just you should have seen my face when he
did like this. He started doing a hand movement too.
I'm like, oh, my.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Goodness, did you say it? I was like, damn, I
thought this was my podcast.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
I'm like, oh, I'm like, bruh, I've been let me
tell you some we eight episodes in, I've already felt
the raffle. Seven episodes leave me both mine. I'm I
should have told him, should.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Have called no, let's do it. Let's do it. Let's
let's do it.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Just do it. Let's continue to support the podcast. Please subscribe, like,
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(38:46):
and keep it bringing to you so once again, thanks
for all the help, all the comments, all the love,
all the support, and thank you units for making another
outstanding episode.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Likewise, Mike right back at you. I'll see you next week.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
We will see you next week, and have done there
been that pod cast. Peace,
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