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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Welcome to those amigos.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Welcome to to amigos.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Here we go, ready boom, What are you sapping on there? Uh?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
You know a little?
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Do you know that today felt like a cup of
teach today? I started my day super early today.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
What was your car time today?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
So today I didn't have to be on set, but
I started.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
I did a workout in the morning, and then I
had a couple of little things that I had to do,
and then I had a bunch of meetings, a comting
for some top brass help for the company as we're
expanding some other ways, you know, so where I have
meetings like back to back to back all day today
and it's just and you can.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Throw my voices a little rasping.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
It just ended down.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Oh, I didn't realize that it just kept going today
and so it was a really long day, but it
was It was nice.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
But what was your day?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Like?
Speaker 1 (01:05):
What did you do today? Good?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Same? Some exercise, some uh you know stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
At the house. I work on the blutes.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Glutes. No, No, today's Monday, right, it's.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Like the chest day, the chest yeah, chest.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
What time does your workout start in the morning?
Speaker 3 (01:25):
It depends on the cold time. Like if I if
I have a seven a m. Cold time, I try
to get in there at four thirty am. Wow, four,
you know, and that's more often than none. Yeah, So
I for thirty in the morning, I get it done.
If I have a late call, I'll work out like eight. Yeah,
I try to sleep in a little bit and spend
a little of time in a cano.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Maybe take her as cool if I can. Yeah, And
then it worked out. But you work out in the
morning till you get out of the way. You do
it like whenever.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah, you know, a little later in the afternoon. You know.
Morning is like coffee, meditation, you know, prayer, you know,
stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
I try to get that in first then and you
do prayer home or you do go somewhere.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Yeah, do you go? Do you go to church on
the weekends? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah, here and there.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Well, I guess we'll talk about where they're yeah, yeah,
you know, because I've been looking for church. Well, it
leads us perfectly into our theme of this episode. You know,
we we in the last couple of episodes, we took
a lot of time to understand one another in levels
that we hadn't before. Kind of go back to who
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our families really were before we were any possibility. We
went right into how we became not just a possibility,
but then the operating in the environment in which we
grew up, the sacrifices some of our parents have to
make for us to kind of have a notion that
we can do a little bit or go a little
farther than they did. And you know, now we enter
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like a realm of like, how do we get here?
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Right? How do we get here as actors? How do
we get here? As in retainers?
Speaker 3 (03:01):
It's individuals who like, you know, when you do all
the odds and you do the math, you know, we
had no business making it this far. You got that right, right,
So I guess the big question is like, what was
that first job that that you're like, you know, I
got one.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
I got a funny story before well it, let me
just explain when I was. When I was like fourteen
fifteen years old in Chicago, they used to make these
things called industrial films, right, So the National Heart Association
was doing an industrial film, I guess, so they could
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watch it internally in the company, and I landed it,
and I was going to make seven hundred dollars and
I was like, Yo, fourteen fifteen, seven hundred dollars. I
was like wow. I was already planning what I was
going to do with the money. And it was my
first time on set. And I don't it sag because
(04:01):
I was there almost like twenty four hours. It was
mad illegal. You know. I was a minor and I
should not have been there that long. But but I
felt like a working actor.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Man.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
I was in front of the camera, I was acting scenes,
and I was so excited to not only see it,
but to get that seven hundred dollars.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
So I waited a week, right, the seven hundred dollars
is not there. I waited two weeks or three. I
waited three weeks and I was like, man, the money
hasn't arrived yet. I said I should go to the
agency to see where my money is, right, And I
remember going to that agency and taking the elevator up,
and as the elevator approached the floor that the agency
was at, the agency was empty.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
No bro, the chairs were on the desk. It's like
a boiler room, man, that's like literally boiler room movement. Man.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
They made out with my seven hundred bucks, and I
was like, wow, I'll you know, I like swore off agents.
I'll never have an agent again. Man, I'm going to
like stick to theater in Chicago and like, you know, but
about a year later, I got an agent and the
rest is history.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
So that's my So that's my first fora and that
was that was your that was your Chicago.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
That was my first Chicago agent. And then that's when
I signed with the big agency there Suzannai. Plus.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
So I was going to this night class on Wednesday nights.
I had gone to this.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Well you know, so when I was a little kid,
you know, we drive down and there was a commercial
online and it said like are you between the agents.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
And blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
You know, you think you got what it takes to
do national commercials and Saturday morning shows, then come and
show up to the La Ex Hilton and you know
you're going a lot. You do have some a panel
of experts are going to deem to see if you
got what it takes.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
And so I so I convinced my dad.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
You know, it's like, hey, Dad, I heard that if
I do a little commercial here and there, I make
a little money and bring them to the house.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
My Dad's like, okay, me is see what's up.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
So we went over to you know, we went over
to the Hilton and Lax and it was like a catacle.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
It was like that's how they got people. They threw
the fish net out on this radio station. People would
show up and their kids, you know, walk over there
and they walk on this plank. They get to the
end of the runway, they look into camera and they
say their name, their age, and where they're from, and
they turn around. And then that's what the expert needed
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to see to gim you.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Whether you're a store yes, that X factor right right?
And why you said your name?
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Yes? Yes for sure? No man, you I had just
learned to speak English. Okay.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
So I get on stage and I walk down that
plank and I get to the front of it, and
I said, hello, my name is we mad about that?
Speaker 1 (06:51):
You know? We met about that rama. Uh.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
I'm sixteen years old and I'm from Venezuela, Columbia, Venezuelan, Colombia.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
I turn around and I walk away.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
But but did you feel like you had to say
it in a way that was like no, I'm gonna
stand out, I'm gonna no.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
I thought like, okay, they're just slating and I just
said that, and somehow, surprise, surprise, I had what it took.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
You.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
But but in my and in everyone's defense, everyone had
what it took. Everyone got pushed to the front of
the desk and then they asked you, hey, you know,
here's how it works. You're gonna pay this many licessions.
And you know, it was basically going to those things
where they just get your money, you know, you they
you know, you pay for commercial slate classes, you know,
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drama classes, comedy classes, audition classes.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
And there was this thing called Beverly Hills.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Studios, Beverly Hills Studio, and I don't even think it
was a perfect name. Yes, yes, Beverly Hills every pretty prestigious.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Pretty prostigious, and you know, and and I don't even
think it was in Beverly Hills, you know. So so
my dad is like looked at the money. He's like, oh,
this is.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I remember how much it was.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Yeah, it was something like like six hundred dollars for
you know, ten classes of commercial and then another three
hundred dollars for scene work and cole read yeah, you know,
so just eleven hundred dollars damn.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
And that's a lot.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Bro, you kidding. We weren't making that in three months.
But my dad found a way, you know, and borrow
some money and he just.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Put me in there, you know.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
And and I went to the school and I only
telling you this part of it because you know, I
then this teacher named Sela's Boy started teaching me for
free at her house on Wednesday nights, who was originally
a part of that part of that teacher. And she's like, yeah,
I like to teach you on Wednesday nights.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
So she so I was like, oh, that's cool.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
So I went and started, you know, taking classes and
there was like thirty year olds and twenty year olds
and I was sixteen and I was doing scenes with
so many different ages and it was like really good practice.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
And she introduced me to this agent, very similar situation, right,
and and you know this agent had these other you know,
small sized agency and he says, I'm not going to
represent you, but I'm going to take you out of
some auditions and see what happens. And like, I went
out on one, I think one Dorito's commercial did not
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get it, but the feedback was like, hey, pretty funny kid.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Pretty funny kid. But he has an accent.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Oh wow.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
So so that's why I couldn't get the part.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
They wanted a Latin person, but he couldn't sound right,
so I didn't get the part. And but then he's like, well,
let me see, I want to send you something else.
And then so my first thing was I know this audition.
I don't know how, but I get booked to this
region of commercial for a smart yellow Pages commercial, Yellow
(09:48):
Pages yellow Pages commercial and it was so California only,
and what's funny, It's like it was the Spanish. It
was for the Spanish market, for the Spanish speaking market,
and I go and I grabbed the Yellow Pages and
I look right to camera and I say the Pacific
Bell Smart yellow Pages.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
But with a really strike accent.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
The accent was crazy in English, in English, in English.
But the whole commercial was in Spanish, you know, and
you know, I had my fake mom, I had my
fake sister and the whole thing. I was like, oh
my god, I'm doing it. But my whole part was
just like yeah. And that was my first commercial. And
so with that money, I got that.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Money and what did you make?
Speaker 2 (10:29):
How much did you make?
Speaker 1 (10:30):
I think it was six hundred bus sixteen hundred bucks.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Sixteen hundred No.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Yes, it was sixteen hundred bucks because it was a
complete like buyout thing and whatever and on that and
so with that money was no, it was twelve hundred bucks.
So with that money I paid my my Screen Actors
Skill member thing, and that actually I could apply now
and they.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
And then you know, I paid my dues and I
became a SAG member.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Of course that membership was you know, we got to
pay a lot of money at the beginning, and and
so I became a SAG actor after that. What was
so obviously it's a journey. Yeah, right, as soon as
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you start, like you taste blood for a second, you're like,
oh I can do this, you know, and you start editioning, addition, auditioning.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
How long did it take until you got that one
gig where you were like, oh I do this?
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Oh wow. So so after that movie I was telling
you about, I was doing pretty okay in Chicago. You know,
I was pounding the pavement. I think covered this in
the other episode. Did you know an episode of of
like television that was coming through Chicago at that times?
John Wells thing this other thing did a couple of commercials,
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but it wasn't until I did a film called The
Walk in the Clouds. That was really my first first
movie that turned where I I got to turn pro,
you know, And so sometimes I describe it to people like,
you know, I was kind of like Lebron or like Kobe,
you know, I just kind of went pro right after
high school because I never got a chance to go
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to college yet. So that happened, you know, high school
was over. I was doing pretty good in high school.
I was booking stuff in Chicago, and everyone in my family,
pretty much all my brothers and cousins all went to
college after so obviously the pressure was on for me
to go to college and I wanted to act, you know,
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so I you know, my dad was on me, people
were on me, and I was like, look, just just
give me a year. Okay, give me a year. Let
me pound the pavement. Let me see what I can
do with it. This year. And that year was an
incredibly dry year and nothing was happening. I had to
take this like third shift job at this like legal
common place, you know, working from like midnight to eight
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in the morning, and nothing was happening. And then Eventually
I was like, Okay, I guess it's time for me
to sort of wrap it up and go back to
school and to figure something out. And then I landed
an Illinois lottery commercial and I was like, oh, okay,
the tide is changing. Things are picking back up. And
then I landed this movie called The Fence with this
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guy Billy Worth who was in The Lost Boys, and
I played him when he would have flashbacks in the movie,
and I was like, I landed in an indie film. Awesome,
all right, this is starting to work. And then Merchant
of Venice came through Chicago at that time. Now I
may be wrong, and John Ortiz may be able to
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correct me on this, but I believe it was elaborate
theater production, and I believe it was John Ortez and
Philip Seymour Hoffman came through Chicago at the Goodman Theater
and they were very interested in me being in the
play because I was a local. Now, for those who
don't know, the Goodman Theater in Chicago, the good Men
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and the stephen Wolf and those theaters are like Broadway
to us, right, and so I was always too young
to do those theaters. And I was finally at the
age to get to do those theaters. So I was
super psyched that they were that they wanted me to
be a part of it. Then I got an audition
for this twentieth Century Fox movie, A Walk Into Clouds,
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and it was Keanu Reeves and it was Anthony Quinn
and it was Keanu's follow up movie to Speed.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Oh my God.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
And so they were putting me on tape in Chicago,
and I thought, well, you know, man, I'm in Chicago.
Like you know, I didn't even think anything of it.
I went in auditioned once. I auditioned twice, like three times.
I auditioned in Chicago. Finally I get a call that
they were going to fly me out the screen test
at twenty century Fox in LA out of Chicago.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Have you been in LA before?
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Never? Dude, Dude, I had never really even been out
of Chicago. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
And so all of a sudden, I do West Coast.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
I'm like this nineteen year old kid. I'm staying at
this crazy expensive hotel over an Avenue of the Stars
and in Century City, you know, the Fox line is
over like on Pico, And they bring me on the
Fox lot and it was like it was the most
magnificent thing.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
It's a magnetic saying when you're working in.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Anybody who comes to LA when they drive to the
twentieth century lot, you enter those gates and as soon
as you're received by these massive sound stages and you
just know something went on in here, you know that
you probably grew up with.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
I mean, it's just legend there, dude.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
You just feel the history when you walk in, you know.
And I was so taken by it all. And I
remember going in the audition and I was like the
only guy auditioning and I would have like the wardrobe
person coming up to me and like, hey, all right,
let me take your measurements. And you know, it was
like I almost had it, but I had to go
in and still like do the screen test. And it
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turns out that it was just sort of like a formality,
you know. I went in there, I screen test. They
were like all right, all right, thank you. They're like
go in the next room and go get your makeup
done and like.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Figure it out.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
And that day they told me I got it.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
You know, dude, well went through your mind. I was myself.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
I was by myself, you know, I was still telling.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Cell phone to call anyone on cell phone.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
I was still technically living at my parents' house, you know,
I was. I was like a like a snotty nose
theater kid from Chicago. All of a sudden, I landed
this gigantic movie. It was so overwhelming. I didn't know
how to how to process it, you know, I just
I just went back home and got ready and then
shipped off for three months by myself to go shoot
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this movie with Canter Reaves and Anthony Quinn. And it
was our phone so owls follow up movie to Like
Water for Chocolate.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Yes, yeah, it was incredible. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
At that time, Like Water for Chocolate was the highest goes.
Oh my god, it was the highest grossing for foreign
film of that time.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Yeah. Uh.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
And this was his follow up movie to it. Gean
Carlo Jannini played my dad, which is a legendary Italian
actor on Helicott. I go on all of these wonderful
actresses from Mexico City and then the crew was all
from Mexico City, right. So uh. Emmanuel Lubeski five times
Oscar winning DP was this was his first American movie.
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Achievo as we call him. Shout out to the Chievo.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Oh, yes, of course, I mean the guy. He's the man. Oh,
he's he's like a legendary guy. He's impossible to have
a meeting with him right now, you know.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Dude, Yeah, after those five oscars, Yes, sitting on his desk.
And so I remember I phone so Al going like,
you see that guy that's in Chievo Man, we call
him the boy wonder. He must have only been a
few years older than me. Man, he looked so young,
you know. And the B camera operator on that movie
was Rodrigo Garcia, who is a wonderful film and television director.
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He eventually became one of six feet under his most
prominent directors. He was the showrunner on In Treatment on HBO.
But he it was the B camera operator, and they
were all like kids. They were all just so happy
to be there. And it was the first time I
had gotten like the taste of what the film community
must have been like in Mexico City. Even when we
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were filming the movie. I remember one time our phone
Soo says, Hey, I want you to meet somebody man.
He just directed this movie called I think it was
called Little Women, and it was our phone Quarn and
he had come from Mexico City to come and hang
out with all his guys, you know, on the set.
You know. So I didn't really understand what I was
experiencing at that time. You know, I was just a kid.
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I was nineteen. I was just happy to be there
and I was there with like a ton of legends
and didn't even know.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
And he goes, tell you how long they've been doing
it too? Yeah, you know what I mean, you think
about how long they've been on that same grind.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
So you get the part and you're.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Like, uh, like what now, Like so when do you.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Have to shoot?
Speaker 2 (18:53):
After you got the pall Like immediately it was like,
you know, a week or two later, they were like
get on the plane and.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
You didn't even go back to Chicago. Did you go back? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (19:01):
I went back to Chicago a couple of bags.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Take a bag for the month.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
WK. Yeah. But I had to make like this crucial decision,
you know, because like they wanted me at Merchant of Venice.
So I was giving up this dream to do a
play at the Goodman Theater. So I had to choose
between school because my dad was like, you gotta go
to school Merchant of Venice to give up a dream
to do that or to go pro and to and
to take the movie. And so I I took the movie.
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And that's the best decision I ever made.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
I think, what so what? What was that first day? Unsaid?
Like you rolled up to a real movie set and you're.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Seeing all these actors you've seen before, and the camera's
there and you've been doing your lines the night before,
and then you what can and what?
Speaker 2 (19:57):
I just remember feeling relaxed, man.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Really, yeah, must be nice. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
I don't know, maybe because you know, I was like
a cocky like Chicago kid, you know me, I probably
got it, Yeah, but it was more like I know
what I'm going on there to like do what I do,
you know, And I was super relaxed, and the folks
was awesome and everybody was so cool, you know. I
think maybe that was why I felt so relaxed. Because
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Keanu Reeves first of all, like everything that you hear
about him is absolutely true. Man. I mean, he's probably
one of the nicest guys I've ever worked with in
my life. I mean, to this day, every time I
see him, it's like we're right back to you know,
that time. And it was I mean this was right
after speed Man. He was the biggest superstar.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Biggest heart throw too.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Oh, huge, huge man, but the nicest guy and just understood.
And we were like the two youngest guys on set,
you know. I think he was like thirty and I
was like nineteen. Everybody else was older than us, you know,
so I think that we related on that level. But
he made me feel so welcomed and was so incredibly
nice to me. And so it was our fon So
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and John Carlo and everybody. It just it just became
like this instant family right away, which lent itself.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
To the energy on that screen too. Yeah, absolutely absolutely,
that's unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Yeah. And then they get to work with Anthony Quinn right,
which which was you know, I didn't appreciate it at
the time, Like I almost wish I was older because Anthony.
I was excited to work with the guy from speed
right where Anthony was a legend obviously, you know, but
he was more like our dad's generation, right like I was.
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I was still a kid, and I didn't appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
That's a privilege. I mean, I had a run in
with Anthony Quinn when I was nineteen years old, myself,
did you Yeah, I didn't. I didn't work with him.
But we were at the Hispanic Heritage Words in Washington,
d C. At Theaet Center.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
And that's a really crazy story, a really funny story.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
I want to hear it.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Yeah, we save it for another opiod. That's a very
good one.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Uh well, you know it makes me reflect on, you know,
that feeling. You kind of took me back to that
wondrous feeling where you're like had the audacity of.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Thinking that like I got this. I'm waiting for you
to say action.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
You know, like the world where you have this confidence,
this level of confidence that is so unaware or not
just the environment, but the people that are in that
environment that have earned it longer than you, and you
kind of almost have to have that yeah, right, like
you're gonna almost have to not do the math and
just do it, you know, right, because I remember my
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biggest break came, you know, at you know, at a
moment where in my life where I felt certain deficately
we needed it the most, right my I think, you know,
talked in the last episode where my dad's mask that
was was stolen.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
I made my dad this promise, like I was going
to be this actor.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
I was gonna make this money and I was going
to have restaurants and have all these things. And you
know that we're never gonna have to pay rent again,
and you know, we're not gonna have it have to
worry about that stuff. And you know, and I and
my dad said okay, may you can do that. I
feel like he gave me permission to do it. And
I was like, great, now I know I can go
ahead full thrott over this thing. My dad was probably
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being like okay to me, Oh, you know, do what
you want to do is okay. You know, like I
don't think he understood the magnitude of what he had
unlocked in me. And I was doing like his belief
in you yes for me. I looked at us like
he saw me.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
He said. I told him I was going to do it.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
He believes I can do it, and he told me
go ahead and do it. And that's how I took it.
And you know, I was doing a lot of theater
in high school, you know, because you know that was
like my obsession and learning how to speak English, was
getting on stage and we're doing stage over and over again.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
And then.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
You know, this agent told me, you know, told me,
all right, We're gonna send you in this pilot. I'm like,
what is a pilot? I'm gonna play a pilot. I'm like, no,
it's a pilot. Is the first episode? Was that the
first pilot you ever auditioned for? The first pilot you
ever auditioned for?
Speaker 1 (24:12):
First pilot?
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Man?
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Wow, I hope you enjoyed Part one.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Hope to see you guys in Part two. Dos Amigos
is a production from WV Sound and iHeartMedia's Michael through
That Podcast Network, hosted by Me, Freddie Rodriguez, and Wilder Valderama.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Those Amigos is produced by Aaron Burlson and Sophie Spencer Zabos.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Our executive producers are Wilder Valderama, Freddie Rodriguez, Aaron Burlson,
and Leo Clem at WV Sound.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
This episode was shot and edited it by Ryan Posts
and mixed by Sean Tracy and features original music by
Madison Devenport and Helo Boy Our cover.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Our photography is by David Avalos and designed by Deny Holtz.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Clau and thank you for being their third amigo today
you show you, guys, always listening to those of Englis.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
For more podcasts from My Heart, visit the irheart Radio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
See you next week.