February 24, 2023 • 20 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
First of all, you don't know me. We all about
that high school drama, Girl Drama, Girl, all about them
high school queens forever. We'll take you for a ride
in our comic girl Cheering for the right teen drama
Queens girl Fashion, but your tough girl, you could sit
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(00:21):
Queen's Drama Queens. Hey. Hey, hey, hey, hey, everybody, I
feel there somewhere ya, welcome back. We are. We are
into a Q and A episode for you, guys, super stoked.
We have some really fun fan questions. All right, let's
(00:43):
let's get into it. I like this question. Wait, wait
before you ask a question. No, I have a question
for you because you just got my brain going. Can
you take that hey, hey, moment you just had and
like maybe taken into the studio with your band and
nothing for us? Yeah? Yeah, we just need to loop it.
We'll just get it on right, put it on a
rhythm in lube. I'm like, you're doing this big band project, Like,
(01:04):
can we can we make requests? Is that like when
you make a request to a DJ. Do not be
surprised when I send you a country song with hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,
who is the singer that just sampled the Muppets? It's
all my kids listen to what wait? Really? Yeah, it's
like what is her name? Fick a twigs? Is that
how you say it? Okay? Yeah, yeah, Grandma anyway, she's
(01:28):
got this like, oh my god, I did not do
it for you, Kermy and my kids are singing it,
and I'm like, are you are you miss Piggy right now? Yeah?
Joy sample this, that's that's okay, the Muppets. I'll be
your mom. Why not? Well, if I especially if I
get somebody who does them upet voice to maybe do
it in the background. Yeah, like a kermit, Hey, hey hey,
we're really off the river. We've really we've really gone
(01:50):
and taken a left. But I like it. Twig all right,
take it away with the first question that actually has
to do with this show and not the record. We're
harassing you to write for us, Hillary, go read it. Okay,
for any teenager watching the show today, what is the
main thing you would like them to take away from it?
(02:11):
I love that question. That's a good line. I think
it's like simplicity works. Yeah, in your life in creativity
and material that there's nothing wrong with complexity, and there
was certainly emotional complexity, but like you can enjoy your
life without all the electronics, you can you can feel
all your feelings without needing to send everything through a
(02:32):
text message. Sometimes talking to somebody in person is the
best thing to do. I just feel like there's a
simplicity about our show in comparison to the way teenagers
are living their lives right now with all the technology
that I just would love for them to embrace a
little bit more of maybe. You know what else for
me really comes up is communication, because when things go unsaid,
(02:58):
your brain will fill in the gaps. And the best
relationships on our show the relationships that people have come
to us for years and said I want a friendship
like that. Those come from communication. But I like what
you added in their joy, Like sometimes you just gotta
give it a beat, like if you're going to be
friends with people for twenty or thirty or forty years,
(03:20):
like sometimes everybody just needs a second. Give people a beat,
love them, and then talk to them, you know, stick,
stick with it. I think I think all of that
is really important, and I think our show modeled that
really well. Sometimes we modeled crazy things like dogharts, but
sometimes communication, the communication is so right. Like I tell
(03:43):
Maria this all the time because I got her an
iPad and I don't she still doesn't have a phone.
But I have rules around the iPad and one of
them is you are not allowed to have like meaningful
conversations via text right now. When you're older, maybe you
can figure it out, but I mean I still struggle
with that. But but for her, age like to train
(04:04):
her brain to start having like emotional conversations on text,
which happens, like she'll get these messages from other girls
like why did you say that in class? And what
you know? And I'm like, they just say, I'll talk
to you tomorrow. Show up at school and talk to
them face to face because it's just so much better.
And I love that we did that. We did that,
we got bad at it later in life as humans,
(04:26):
I would say the reason the characters on our show
had such rich lives, Like they're fun to watch, right,
it's fun to live through them because they got involved.
You know, Brooke Davis was throwing prom and doing the
you know, designated driving thing. Haley. Yeah, they can joins
(04:47):
the cheerleading squad, right, it's out of her conference zone,
but she joins Lucas Scott gets off of that river
court and like joins in the school. Peyton doesn't have
a place. And so launch is this all ages thing
at Trick, you know, getting it and thought, yeah, I
mean getting involved is something that I think COVID really
(05:10):
messed up for a lot of kids because it was like,
there wasn't that natural passing of the baton, and so
it's almost like you just gotta jump in and even
if it's a club that you don't know if you're
gonna love it or not, like join that Spanish club,
Honey Guts against drunk driving, you know, like join the thing,
(05:33):
but just join. Stute observation, there's the fact that COVID
messed that up. I never thought about that, but I
think you're right. I think there's a lot of kids
that never got that sort of passed down to them
because that to year gap. Yeah, it was weird. Get
in there, all right. You know what I think about
a lot. I think about how crazy it is that
you know and you read it, you learn about this
(05:54):
in school, right, they say history repeats itself around every
hundred years. And I don't know if you guys have
thought about this, but thinking back to you know, the
big flu pandemic of nineteen eighteen, and you see all
the people isolated and you know, in their masks and
all the black and white photos, and I just think like,
oh man, it's been so hard for us, to your point,
(06:16):
to not be able to gather, and especially for kids.
And then I'm like, what did they do when they
couldn't FaceTime? You know, what did they do when they
couldn't be in school on zoom? Like damn? And it
makes me wonder I've never thought about this. We were there,
schools running drama clubs on zoom? Were kids able to
(06:36):
have any version of that? I don't know the answer,
but yes there were. I love the desire to be
resilient and the desire to figure out how to gather.
And my hope, hearing your observation, is that kids who
got out of that practice, who do as you said, joy,
feel a little more comfortable maybe on an iPad than
(06:58):
they do in person. I hope your parents are also
pushing them to get back together in person now because
they can, and to join the extra club to do
the after school extracurricular thing that you know is back
on this year because I think we're so lucky to
be more connected than ever. But I also think nothing
(07:18):
replaces face to face time with your people and with
your peers, and and that I think is where you
learn to communicate like that. It is where you learn
to be inspired by, you know, some group activity, the
puppy pile, raman school and just puppy piling with your friends.
(07:39):
I'm still puppy pile. It's my dream situation Marian days.
I love pulling up to school and watching her all
her friends are all climbing all over each other. Oh
that's so good. Cute. That was a good question. Okay, listen,
if you had a theme song that played every time
your character walked into a room, what would it be?
(08:00):
I mean, I know what mine is. It's kind of
an obscure song. This is an obscure song. When we
were filming One Tree Hill, this biopic um documentary about
Harry Nielsen came out and he has written, like so
many songs you've heard, you just don't know that he's
who wrote them. And he has this song that's like
(08:21):
you break him. Ahart you break him Ahart, So you
and I that is Peyton Sawyer like it's obscure. It's
like acknowledging that I'm dying inside. And also like, god,
that is so funny. I don't think I've ever thought
(08:42):
of this before. But when you read the question, these
boots were made for walking in my head? Yeah, and
then I was like, why am I thinking about that?
For brook? And then I was like, honestly, it's not
not a no little Nancy Sinatra. Yeah, it's just like
a little sassy lad the American Royalty. Okay, come into it.
(09:04):
I love it. I'm probably gonna stick with I think
I said Casey Musgraves the last time, and she came
to mind again for that reason. But I think I'm
gonna say a cup of tea, okay. When I think
of Hayley, she was so confident, you know, even though
she had kind of some neurotic insecurities, there was a
confidence about her that was like, I know, I'm not
everybody's cup of tea. Like it's okay, you know, we're
(09:26):
not we're not all gonna you're not You're not always
gonna like me, and I'm always gonna like you. But
she was confident in who she was. Yeah, and I
like that. I think it's cool. Yeah. Man, all right,
we're putting a mixtape together. Hold on, do we have
any other characters that we have songs for? Let's see,
what would the Nathan Scott song be? Oh yeah, oh gosh.
(09:46):
I feel like he's so like something so classic, like
Tom Petty or Bruce Springsteen like, okay, such, I don't know,
you know what I mean? That's what comes to mind
for me immediately, is that you're a and those sounds. Yeah.
I mean I think of the marriage between Haley and Nathan,
and I think of that Eric Church song Wrecking Ball.
(10:08):
Do you know what I'm talking about? That song so perverted,
but it's like a husband and wife like hook up song.
You guys has great horror energy. Oh joy, put that
on Hey, I'm putting it on my list. I wish
I had a better answer for that. I feel like
there's there's My brain goes totally blank when somebody says,
think of a song, all I can think of It's
(10:29):
like I can't think of a single record I've ever
listened to him. No, there's got to be way better
songs for Haley and Nathan Lucas is definitely like a
born in the USA Springsteen kind of a song, right,
because isn't he so like he's so literary, Like what's
a good Yeah? Wasn't that a Bikowski poem that Cheryl
Crowe turned into Santa Monica Boulevard? Wasn't that like a
Bikowski poem? Oh? Was it? Yeah? I feel like yeah,
(10:52):
I feel like he needs something that that references like yeah, right,
especially because he did his character did all the voiceovers
of literature and read, you know, sections of books and
poems and things. I'd love to find him an anthem
that has a little a little classic writing. Totally. Wait, Hillary,
(11:16):
don't you think for Peyton it would be just a
girl from No Doubt in the nineties? Such a bitch?
Doesn't Peyton say like a mean Gwen Stefani comment in
the show? Does she? I don't know. I think she
said something should be about Gwen Stefani like season one,
just like, oh that's basic, Like it's so late. Love
me some Gwen. I know she's cute, but I love
(11:40):
that Peyton is like, no, everybody likes No Doubt, so
I don't die well. Micha Oh my god, my son
has a friend like that. That's like we hate Weezer.
I'm like, he says, you, yeah, awesome your mouth, young man.
We should kick it to the audience for Dan Scott,
Like I want to hear from the audience, yes, what
they think Dan Scott's themed song is our bad boy
(12:04):
m Maybe Nathan's would be He's so fun. Oh yeah,
wouldn't that be cute? Every time he walked in the room,
we get annoying. After that, he's adorable. All right. Number three,
what's the last book you read? Oh, well, you're reading
(12:28):
all the time, Hillary to constantly. I read Mystic Christianity.
It's a book that was written in nineteen o eight
and it was a critique of American Christianity at the
time and about just all the they make up that's
not actually in the Bible. And it talked about like
(12:48):
things that I had never considered, like who are the
wise men? Like, really think about that for a second?
Who who? Who bankrolled Jesus so he could escape, know,
King Herod, And so it's stuff like that. Um, it's
you know, it's a lot of New Testament philosophy and
(13:08):
it's a really fun beach read kids great time. I
have a book that is it's funny. I finished a
book last night and then started a new one today
and the next book in my stack based on what
you just said you need to read. It's called Jesus
and John Wayne. And it's about the marriage of like
the deep toxicity of the evangelical church and toxic American
(13:32):
masculinity and how it's completely missed it's been so faith
is about and what being a man is about. And
it's like the back of the book jacket gave me chills.
So I'm excited to get there. But I just finished
the most beautiful book. It's a it's really amusing on
(13:52):
girlhood and growing up and grief and loss and love
and all these things. It's called The Paper Palace. Oh
I heard about that one. Oh my god, it's so
so stunning. I could not put it down. Um So
I stayed up late to finish it last night, and
(14:13):
then today I started um Cole Arthur Riley, who runs
Black Liturgies, wrote a book called This Here Flesh that
I'm reading, and it's it's really about the liberation of
the systems we were raised in and how it's actually
our community that gets us there and all of the
(14:36):
stories that make us and so sensing sensing themes, you
keep a book in every m's like this is yeah.
I in the same way that I want to pile
with my people, I want to just be under a
pile of books at all times. I feel that for you, Joy,
what are you reading? I just finished All the Light
We Cannot See, which was so beautiful. Um. I'm in
(15:01):
a little neighborhood book club, so that's fine. And yeah,
it's a beautiful um telling of a little blind girl
in World War Two and she's in Germany and there's
a boy that she be friends who gets recruited into
(15:22):
the Nazi army. And it's just like really putting on
glasses to look at how things might have felt from
the other side, and and what it looks like to
be confronted with ideas that you don't agree with, but
you go along with it anyway because it's just too
(15:44):
scary to say I don't believe that, um. And and
then what how this little girl survives? There's it's it
goes back and forth between the two stories. And then
how this little girl survives and actually thrive even though
everything around her is falling apart. She can hear it,
but she can't see it, and so she's got this
(16:05):
whole world constructed in her mind that she lives in
and it's just it's really beautiful. When did that come out?
Is that new? I feel like it was maybe fourteen
or sixteen, I'm not sure. And then the audiobook I'm
halfway through right now is Lessons in Biology or less sorry,
lessons in Chemistry, which is also great, and it's about
(16:29):
a female chemist in the nineteen sixties and it's still
the crazy that happens to her, but it's so well
right to imagine that was a weird scene. Yeah, yeah,
but she well, she turns her chemistry knowledge because they
just won't let her climb the ranks and do what
(16:50):
she's capable of doing. So she turns it into cooking
and like becomes this host of a cooking show in America.
But they flash back to this whole story of her
life and it's great. Sweet, So I recommend, I recommend.
Great question. I love it. Okay, we have looking back.
Do you think there was something your character did or
(17:12):
said that was ahead of its time? Well, hm hmm,
not really. I mean I still stand by the fact
that Burke Davis invented uber feels ahead of its time. God,
(17:33):
you know the guy that like eventually opened that company.
He watched our show in college. I bent money on it.
He sat there and cried with all the raps. You
just cry, um Peyton ahead of her time. I don't know, man,
I mean I feel like I feel like it was
true to my high school experience. I just hung out
(17:55):
with my friend Marla the other day and she and
I just became friends in the last few years. She's
a new friend. She'd never seen the show, and we
were hanging out and she's like, I watched the first
season of your show and I was like, you weirdo,
why would you do that? She's like, because I I
feel like it's you right, Like are you Payton? Were
(18:17):
you Peyton? In high school? Was that real? And it
was all the questions about like sexuality and place and
gender and like what do I do with myself? Like
all of that was my experience, And so I don't
think it was ahead of its time, but it was timely.
(18:37):
That's cool. Yeah, I don't know, the only thing I
could think of is just Haley being a pregnant girl.
In high school, that nobody shamed for being pregnant in
high school? Right, that was kind of cool. Yeah, okay.
In fact, we all like throw baby showers and it
was kind of fun. I know, I know totally. It's like, okay,
I guess that's that's a nice world to him. Do
(19:00):
any teachers ever stop Haley and be like, oh my god,
are you okay? No? Never, that's wild, all right, it's
really wild that everyone just acts like it's totally normal. Yeah. Yeah, yeah,
Well it's because she was married that made it okay,
so suddenly everybody, well, you know, it's another that's a
(19:20):
conversation for another day. But what's the line from oh
brother about he's bouta fad? Yeah, Haley whatever. Regardless, it
does seem like a that's a nice world to dream
of where a girl could make whatever choice she wanted
and not get shamed for it either way. Yeah, just
be supported. It'll be nice if only poor Rachel had
(19:43):
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(00:21):
Queen's Drama Queens. Hey. Hey, hey, hey, hey, everybody, I
feel there somewhere ya, welcome back. We are. We are
into a Q and A episode for you, guys, super stoked.
We have some really fun fan questions. All right, let's
(00:43):
let's get into it. I like this question. Wait, wait
before you ask a question. No, I have a question
for you because you just got my brain going. Can
you take that hey, hey, moment you just had and
like maybe taken into the studio with your band and
nothing for us? Yeah? Yeah, we just need to loop it.
We'll just get it on right, put it on a
rhythm in lube. I'm like, you're doing this big band project, Like,
(01:04):
can we can we make requests? Is that like when
you make a request to a DJ. Do not be
surprised when I send you a country song with hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,
who is the singer that just sampled the Muppets? It's
all my kids listen to what wait? Really? Yeah, it's
like what is her name? Fick a twigs? Is that
how you say it? Okay? Yeah, yeah, Grandma anyway, she's
(01:28):
got this like, oh my god, I did not do
it for you, Kermy and my kids are singing it,
and I'm like, are you are you miss Piggy right now? Yeah?
Joy sample this, that's that's okay, the Muppets. I'll be
your mom. Why not? Well, if I especially if I
get somebody who does them upet voice to maybe do
it in the background. Yeah, like a kermit, Hey, hey hey,
we're really off the river. We've really we've really gone
(01:50):
and taken a left. But I like it. Twig all right,
take it away with the first question that actually has
to do with this show and not the record. We're
harassing you to write for us, Hillary, go read it. Okay,
for any teenager watching the show today, what is the
main thing you would like them to take away from it?
(02:11):
I love that question. That's a good line. I think
it's like simplicity works. Yeah, in your life in creativity
and material that there's nothing wrong with complexity, and there
was certainly emotional complexity, but like you can enjoy your
life without all the electronics, you can you can feel
all your feelings without needing to send everything through a
(02:32):
text message. Sometimes talking to somebody in person is the
best thing to do. I just feel like there's a
simplicity about our show in comparison to the way teenagers
are living their lives right now with all the technology
that I just would love for them to embrace a
little bit more of maybe. You know what else for
me really comes up is communication, because when things go unsaid,
(02:58):
your brain will fill in the gaps. And the best
relationships on our show the relationships that people have come
to us for years and said I want a friendship
like that. Those come from communication. But I like what
you added in their joy, Like sometimes you just gotta
give it a beat, like if you're going to be
friends with people for twenty or thirty or forty years,
(03:20):
like sometimes everybody just needs a second. Give people a beat,
love them, and then talk to them, you know, stick,
stick with it. I think I think all of that
is really important, and I think our show modeled that
really well. Sometimes we modeled crazy things like dogharts, but
sometimes communication, the communication is so right. Like I tell
(03:43):
Maria this all the time because I got her an
iPad and I don't she still doesn't have a phone.
But I have rules around the iPad and one of
them is you are not allowed to have like meaningful
conversations via text right now. When you're older, maybe you
can figure it out, but I mean I still struggle
with that. But but for her, age like to train
(04:04):
her brain to start having like emotional conversations on text,
which happens, like she'll get these messages from other girls
like why did you say that in class? And what
you know? And I'm like, they just say, I'll talk
to you tomorrow. Show up at school and talk to
them face to face because it's just so much better.
And I love that we did that. We did that,
we got bad at it later in life as humans,
(04:26):
I would say the reason the characters on our show
had such rich lives, Like they're fun to watch, right,
it's fun to live through them because they got involved.
You know, Brooke Davis was throwing prom and doing the
you know, designated driving thing. Haley. Yeah, they can joins
(04:47):
the cheerleading squad, right, it's out of her conference zone,
but she joins Lucas Scott gets off of that river
court and like joins in the school. Peyton doesn't have
a place. And so launch is this all ages thing
at Trick, you know, getting it and thought, yeah, I
mean getting involved is something that I think COVID really
(05:10):
messed up for a lot of kids because it was like,
there wasn't that natural passing of the baton, and so
it's almost like you just gotta jump in and even
if it's a club that you don't know if you're
gonna love it or not, like join that Spanish club,
Honey Guts against drunk driving, you know, like join the thing,
(05:33):
but just join. Stute observation, there's the fact that COVID
messed that up. I never thought about that, but I
think you're right. I think there's a lot of kids
that never got that sort of passed down to them
because that to year gap. Yeah, it was weird. Get
in there, all right. You know what I think about
a lot. I think about how crazy it is that
you know and you read it, you learn about this
(05:54):
in school, right, they say history repeats itself around every
hundred years. And I don't know if you guys have
thought about this, but thinking back to you know, the
big flu pandemic of nineteen eighteen, and you see all
the people isolated and you know, in their masks and
all the black and white photos, and I just think like,
oh man, it's been so hard for us, to your point,
(06:16):
to not be able to gather, and especially for kids.
And then I'm like, what did they do when they
couldn't FaceTime? You know, what did they do when they
couldn't be in school on zoom? Like damn? And it
makes me wonder I've never thought about this. We were there,
schools running drama clubs on zoom? Were kids able to
(06:36):
have any version of that? I don't know the answer,
but yes there were. I love the desire to be
resilient and the desire to figure out how to gather.
And my hope, hearing your observation, is that kids who
got out of that practice, who do as you said, joy,
feel a little more comfortable maybe on an iPad than
(06:58):
they do in person. I hope your parents are also
pushing them to get back together in person now because
they can, and to join the extra club to do
the after school extracurricular thing that you know is back
on this year because I think we're so lucky to
be more connected than ever. But I also think nothing
(07:18):
replaces face to face time with your people and with
your peers, and and that I think is where you
learn to communicate like that. It is where you learn
to be inspired by, you know, some group activity, the
puppy pile, raman school and just puppy piling with your friends.
(07:39):
I'm still puppy pile. It's my dream situation Marian days.
I love pulling up to school and watching her all
her friends are all climbing all over each other. Oh
that's so good. Cute. That was a good question. Okay, listen,
if you had a theme song that played every time
your character walked into a room, what would it be?
(08:00):
I mean, I know what mine is. It's kind of
an obscure song. This is an obscure song. When we
were filming One Tree Hill, this biopic um documentary about
Harry Nielsen came out and he has written, like so
many songs you've heard, you just don't know that he's
who wrote them. And he has this song that's like
(08:21):
you break him. Ahart you break him Ahart, So you
and I that is Peyton Sawyer like it's obscure. It's
like acknowledging that I'm dying inside. And also like, god,
that is so funny. I don't think I've ever thought
(08:42):
of this before. But when you read the question, these
boots were made for walking in my head? Yeah, and
then I was like, why am I thinking about that?
For brook? And then I was like, honestly, it's not
not a no little Nancy Sinatra. Yeah, it's just like
a little sassy lad the American Royalty. Okay, come into it.
(09:04):
I love it. I'm probably gonna stick with I think
I said Casey Musgraves the last time, and she came
to mind again for that reason. But I think I'm
gonna say a cup of tea, okay. When I think
of Hayley, she was so confident, you know, even though
she had kind of some neurotic insecurities, there was a
confidence about her that was like, I know, I'm not
everybody's cup of tea. Like it's okay, you know, we're
(09:26):
not we're not all gonna you're not You're not always
gonna like me, and I'm always gonna like you. But
she was confident in who she was. Yeah, and I
like that. I think it's cool. Yeah. Man, all right,
we're putting a mixtape together. Hold on, do we have
any other characters that we have songs for? Let's see,
what would the Nathan Scott song be? Oh yeah, oh gosh.
(09:46):
I feel like he's so like something so classic, like
Tom Petty or Bruce Springsteen like, okay, such, I don't know,
you know what I mean? That's what comes to mind
for me immediately, is that you're a and those sounds. Yeah.
I mean I think of the marriage between Haley and Nathan,
and I think of that Eric Church song Wrecking Ball.
(10:08):
Do you know what I'm talking about? That song so perverted,
but it's like a husband and wife like hook up song.
You guys has great horror energy. Oh joy, put that
on Hey, I'm putting it on my list. I wish
I had a better answer for that. I feel like
there's there's My brain goes totally blank when somebody says,
think of a song, all I can think of It's
(10:29):
like I can't think of a single record I've ever
listened to him. No, there's got to be way better
songs for Haley and Nathan Lucas is definitely like a
born in the USA Springsteen kind of a song, right,
because isn't he so like he's so literary, Like what's
a good Yeah? Wasn't that a Bikowski poem that Cheryl
Crowe turned into Santa Monica Boulevard? Wasn't that like a
Bikowski poem? Oh? Was it? Yeah? I feel like yeah,
(10:52):
I feel like he needs something that that references like yeah, right,
especially because he did his character did all the voiceovers
of literature and read, you know, sections of books and
poems and things. I'd love to find him an anthem
that has a little a little classic writing. Totally. Wait, Hillary,
(11:16):
don't you think for Peyton it would be just a
girl from No Doubt in the nineties? Such a bitch?
Doesn't Peyton say like a mean Gwen Stefani comment in
the show? Does she? I don't know. I think she
said something should be about Gwen Stefani like season one,
just like, oh that's basic, Like it's so late. Love
me some Gwen. I know she's cute, but I love
(11:40):
that Peyton is like, no, everybody likes No Doubt, so
I don't die well. Micha Oh my god, my son
has a friend like that. That's like we hate Weezer.
I'm like, he says, you, yeah, awesome your mouth, young man.
We should kick it to the audience for Dan Scott,
Like I want to hear from the audience, yes, what
they think Dan Scott's themed song is our bad boy
(12:04):
m Maybe Nathan's would be He's so fun. Oh yeah,
wouldn't that be cute? Every time he walked in the room,
we get annoying. After that, he's adorable. All right. Number three,
what's the last book you read? Oh, well, you're reading
(12:28):
all the time, Hillary to constantly. I read Mystic Christianity.
It's a book that was written in nineteen o eight
and it was a critique of American Christianity at the
time and about just all the they make up that's
not actually in the Bible. And it talked about like
(12:48):
things that I had never considered, like who are the
wise men? Like, really think about that for a second?
Who who? Who bankrolled Jesus so he could escape, know,
King Herod, And so it's stuff like that. Um, it's
you know, it's a lot of New Testament philosophy and
(13:08):
it's a really fun beach read kids great time. I
have a book that is it's funny. I finished a
book last night and then started a new one today
and the next book in my stack based on what
you just said you need to read. It's called Jesus
and John Wayne. And it's about the marriage of like
the deep toxicity of the evangelical church and toxic American
(13:32):
masculinity and how it's completely missed it's been so faith
is about and what being a man is about. And
it's like the back of the book jacket gave me chills.
So I'm excited to get there. But I just finished
the most beautiful book. It's a it's really amusing on
(13:52):
girlhood and growing up and grief and loss and love
and all these things. It's called The Paper Palace. Oh
I heard about that one. Oh my god, it's so
so stunning. I could not put it down. Um So
I stayed up late to finish it last night, and
(14:13):
then today I started um Cole Arthur Riley, who runs
Black Liturgies, wrote a book called This Here Flesh that
I'm reading, and it's it's really about the liberation of
the systems we were raised in and how it's actually
our community that gets us there and all of the
(14:36):
stories that make us and so sensing sensing themes, you
keep a book in every m's like this is yeah.
I in the same way that I want to pile
with my people, I want to just be under a
pile of books at all times. I feel that for you, Joy,
what are you reading? I just finished All the Light
We Cannot See, which was so beautiful. Um. I'm in
(15:01):
a little neighborhood book club, so that's fine. And yeah,
it's a beautiful um telling of a little blind girl
in World War Two and she's in Germany and there's
a boy that she be friends who gets recruited into
(15:22):
the Nazi army. And it's just like really putting on
glasses to look at how things might have felt from
the other side, and and what it looks like to
be confronted with ideas that you don't agree with, but
you go along with it anyway because it's just too
(15:44):
scary to say I don't believe that, um. And and
then what how this little girl survives? There's it's it
goes back and forth between the two stories. And then
how this little girl survives and actually thrive even though
everything around her is falling apart. She can hear it,
but she can't see it, and so she's got this
(16:05):
whole world constructed in her mind that she lives in
and it's just it's really beautiful. When did that come out?
Is that new? I feel like it was maybe fourteen
or sixteen, I'm not sure. And then the audiobook I'm
halfway through right now is Lessons in Biology or less sorry,
lessons in Chemistry, which is also great, and it's about
(16:29):
a female chemist in the nineteen sixties and it's still
the crazy that happens to her, but it's so well
right to imagine that was a weird scene. Yeah, yeah,
but she well, she turns her chemistry knowledge because they
just won't let her climb the ranks and do what
(16:50):
she's capable of doing. So she turns it into cooking
and like becomes this host of a cooking show in America.
But they flash back to this whole story of her
life and it's great. Sweet, So I recommend, I recommend.
Great question. I love it. Okay, we have looking back.
Do you think there was something your character did or
(17:12):
said that was ahead of its time? Well, hm hmm,
not really. I mean I still stand by the fact
that Burke Davis invented uber feels ahead of its time. God,
(17:33):
you know the guy that like eventually opened that company.
He watched our show in college. I bent money on it.
He sat there and cried with all the raps. You
just cry, um Peyton ahead of her time. I don't know, man,
I mean I feel like I feel like it was
true to my high school experience. I just hung out
(17:55):
with my friend Marla the other day and she and
I just became friends in the last few years. She's
a new friend. She'd never seen the show, and we
were hanging out and she's like, I watched the first
season of your show and I was like, you weirdo,
why would you do that? She's like, because I I
feel like it's you right, Like are you Payton? Were
(18:17):
you Peyton? In high school? Was that real? And it
was all the questions about like sexuality and place and
gender and like what do I do with myself? Like
all of that was my experience, And so I don't
think it was ahead of its time, but it was timely.
(18:37):
That's cool. Yeah, I don't know, the only thing I
could think of is just Haley being a pregnant girl.
In high school, that nobody shamed for being pregnant in
high school? Right, that was kind of cool. Yeah, okay.
In fact, we all like throw baby showers and it
was kind of fun. I know, I know totally. It's like, okay,
I guess that's that's a nice world to him. Do
(19:00):
any teachers ever stop Haley and be like, oh my god,
are you okay? No? Never, that's wild, all right, it's
really wild that everyone just acts like it's totally normal. Yeah. Yeah, yeah,
Well it's because she was married that made it okay,
so suddenly everybody, well, you know, it's another that's a
(19:20):
conversation for another day. But what's the line from oh
brother about he's bouta fad? Yeah, Haley whatever. Regardless, it
does seem like a that's a nice world to dream
of where a girl could make whatever choice she wanted
and not get shamed for it either way. Yeah, just
be supported. It'll be nice if only poor Rachel had
(19:43):
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