September 22, 2025 • 50 mins
A moment at the morgue, an attempted murder, and the most meta moment EVER, who could forget Season 9 Episode 8? Apparently Rob can! Hear how he experiences the drama like it’s the first time!
Meanwhile, Clay has a major breakthrough, Xavier’s shocking cafe appearance shakes things up, and Chase’s bold plan to protect Chuck keeps everyone on edge.
Plus, what did Joy do that left Sophia and Rob blown away after all these years?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
First of all, you don't know me.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
We all about that high school drama girl drama girl,
all about.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Them high school queens.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
We'll take you for a ride, and our comic girl
shared for the right teams. Drama Queens, Jaylie's Girl of
Girl Fashion, but your tough girl.
Speaker 4 (00:16):
You could sit with us.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Girl Drama Queens, Drama Queens, Drama, Queens, Drama, Drama, Queens,
Drama Queens.
Speaker 5 (00:27):
This is why you got to watch the show on YouTube.
For those of you listening, So if you just picked
up what appeared to be a small fish bowl full
of own broth and drank it like it wasn't a
funny visual gag, you.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Know, I do what I can to please you.
Speaker 5 (00:40):
Rob, Thanks for that friend anytime. Do you know you
were in my dream last night?
Speaker 4 (00:45):
I was what were we doing here?
Speaker 5 (00:46):
We got into a little tiff by the way we did. Yeah,
we were at a public event and we got into
a tiff and I actually did the thing where like
I pointed at you and I went like like as
if like get to the other room, like I was
scold you like I was a parent.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Yeah, why what were we tiffing about?
Speaker 5 (01:03):
Well? Offline about it? We'll offline about it. Oh, I
can't wait. Yeah, yeah, teaser for the audience. Maybe we'll
cover it in a different episode. I don't know, I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
I am in two weeks. One of my best friends
is getting married, and so obviously like our group chats
with all of our friends or what's everyone we're into
the wedding and when's your flight and when does everyone arrive?
And who's carpooling? And you know, like logistics and the
night before last, you know when you have one of
those crazy nights where you feel like you have a
dream from the moment you go to bed till the
(01:32):
moment you wake up, like it never changes. I spent
an entire night dreaming about her wedding. But I was
the wedding planner down to like the headset and the clipboard,
and I was moving around and organizing things and getting
like all the kids in order and all the and
I woke up being like, Wow, what a crazy thing
(01:53):
that I just spent the entire night dreaming about brittin
Alex's wedding. And then I also was like, have I
have I maybe missed a calling? I'm very organized and I,
at least in the dream was an excellent wedding planner.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
Well, I would say you are very talented, so to
be fair, I think you've missed several callings only by
virtue of the fact there there's only one of you
in twenty four hours in a day.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Angel.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
I do think you would crush as a wedding coordinator
because that plays to a lot of your strengths. And
the good news is if the wedding coordinator falls like
deathly ill on the day, you now know you are
a suitable candidate to step up and fill the shoes.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Oh my god, if my dream weirdly manifested that, I
will strangely be ready. But I hope not because I
want her to not be stressed.
Speaker 6 (02:43):
You know.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
Yeah, here's the question. Are you ready to discuss this
banger of an episode.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
I don't have a clipboard, but I do have notes.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
Okay, good, let's hop into it. So Season nine, episode eight,
A Rush of Blood to the Head, aired February twenty ninth,
twenty twelve. Is February twenty ninth, the day that only
happens every four years. Yes, that's a leap yer check
track because this was a pretty special episode. Synopsis reads
(03:12):
Haley receives news of a possible tragedy. Boy did she ever?
Dan's search for Nathan leads him back to his dark past,
and Clay has a blake breakthrough in his treatment that
is to say the least. And then if there appears
to be more, but all we have is Broomber, which
I believe was going to be something about Brook. I'm
(03:34):
guessing it's Brooke encounters an unwelcome guest multiple times at
Karen's cafe.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Yes, I would, I would think that that is the
missing section of the synopsis. This episode was directed by
our very own Greg Prange, was written by the lovely
Johnny Richardson, and I gotta say I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
This felt like we're very in the wheelhouse of what
we do best, and touche to Johnny Richardson. So many
of the questions that I think we've all been watching
episodes in season nine thus far and going what the hell?
How does Dan know this? And why is this relevant?
There were things that were revealed in this episode. I
(04:17):
felt like I got a couple of bo's on some
gifts and I liked it.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
I agree. I had two big takeaways. One was I
remember when we started doing this podcast, and I were
saying to you guys, like, I think Dan's my favorite character.
I just loved watching Dan, and this episode it was
like a love letter to that feeling because he was
so fun to watch. He's so great in this role,
(04:44):
but in this particular season that we find Dan in
and also, okay, we all know the term jumping the shark.
Oh yeah, I want to float this. I think our
show is very good at writing the shark interesting.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Where it's almost ridiculously too far.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
And then they pull it back that's right, and we
just we just sort of ride this fine line of
being absurdist. You get good enough that you don't mind,
and you're like, I'll go for this ride. I like that.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
I like that.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
I'm getting like a nice visual of the bridle on
the shark, and it's like, just when it's too far,
we rein it.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
In You're still on a shark. Still in Yep, there
are Eastern European assassins in the small town of tree Hill,
as we all know. Uh, but it's okay because it works.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
It does. And interestingly, the lovely guy who played Dan's
prison friend, he had the tattoo, which is why Dan
knows the symbol. We finally, we finally get it. He
was so good and and I found myself thinking, God,
thank goodness, they got such a good actor. It's so
(05:56):
refreshing to watch him and Paul moving through the yard
talking at their lives. You understand that they've all suffered
behind bars at the hands of this I don't know
guard cop. Whatever he was. Is not that that justifies violence,
but you go, oh, there's there's more of a story here.
I see there's a there's a system and a life
(06:18):
that we just didn't really get the you know, the
privilege is an audience to view day in and day
out while Dan was in prison. But it helped me
understand things so effectively that even when he was talking
about the guys who have Nathan and saying, you don't
get it, these guys are assassins, I didn't mind it.
(06:38):
It was so silly, but I didn't mind it. I
was like, I'm all in on whatever you two are selling.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
That guy. And I apologize to the actor because I
don't know his name and it's not in the notes,
but he was. He was so good. First of all,
his performance is great because it's so challenging to be
a guest star, especially to come on to such like
to an already established successful machine. Yeah, and especially when
you only have one scene. Yes, all of your instincts
(07:06):
are like, well, I gotta crush this, and like the
trap you fall into is you end up doing the
most and that never looks good. And this guy was
great because he did the least and it was so
effective and it was so good. I almost didn't notice
that that was the club med of prisons, I.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Know, the little outdoor garden and the tiny barn.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
It was very chic.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
It was an idyllic sanctuary, Like I couldn't believe how
beautiful was and I thought like, wow, this is this
is like where Martha Stewart went. Yeah, these guys are gangsters. Yeah,
lovely love. I want to spend a weekend there.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Perhaps, you know we've talked about this in our fantasy.
Perhaps Martha and Victoria were there together and they created
the community garden that later benefited all these men who
just needed a second chance.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
Just for a minut imagine how fun a show would
be of Martha Stewart playing herself in Victoria coming into
Martha's world and watching them like Orange is the New
Black Boat with Martha Stewart and Victoria Davis.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
No, it's my literal dream, like it's the show I
think we deserve next.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Also, weirdly, have we ever talked about the fact that
my mom and Martha Stewart could be cousins? Like they
look so much alike.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
You're telling me your aunt Martha is actually Martha Stewart.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Oh my god, what I would give? Could you imagine?
Speaker 5 (08:37):
That would be so cool? You know what else we
should do? This would be very meta. But the one Tree,
He'll hear me out. I don't know how you guys
are coming along with the spin off, but if you're
open to huge structural ideas, Okay, ok, changing everything Real
Housewives of.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Tree True Hill.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Oh my god, that's actually so funny.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
Because we always talk about that the moms on the
show are just absolute assassins and we just don't get
enough of them. So give us a show that revolves
around them.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
By the way, I think about this all the time.
To get a Karen deb and Victoria show would be
so amazed, Like I would just be so happy.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
Oh. Yes, and also you can't forget Sharon Lawrence.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Yes, Sylvia yes, So where's Antoine's mom? Like, I want
to know, I want to know skills as missus Taylor,
where's she at? Like I want to see that world
so badly. And don't get me wrong, I love the teens.
There's a nostalgia when you watch a teen story. But
(09:38):
one of the things that I think has been really
cool about the timeline of the decades we've been working
actors is people are also realizing, like, oh, people in
their forties, fifties, and sixties are really interesting, and like,
I want to see these people as parents and then
(09:58):
their parents, like so badly to see Victoria in her
grandma era. But she's Victoria, so she's like so hot
and cool and doing cool shit.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Give it to me.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
Yeah, And because every cast has to have just an
absolute loose cannon wild card, hear me out Chuck's mom.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Oh my god, it would be amazing. It would be amazing,
especially after this episode how she's reinvented herself and you know,
she'd be doing.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
Something incredible now.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Yeah, she would have gotten out from under the thumb
of this horrible man. Yeah, and she'd just be thriving. Yes,
I want that. I want more of that.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
Okay, well, now that we have fully explored our fan
fiction ideas, let's actually talk about the episode.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
So.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
I love that we opened with the bar that Dan
is waiting outside of was actually is the Blue Post,
which is like the local neighborhood bar that we all
went to all the time.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Yes, I know, that's like all in caps in the
beginning of my notes. And I also love just for
the humor of it that my notes app auto corrected
why is he kicking the shit out of this old guy?
To why is he kicking the short out of this
old guy?
Speaker 5 (11:11):
Yeah, what's his ducking problem?
Speaker 3 (11:14):
I love it.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
It's like when you had to do bad adr for
a movie so they could show it on a plane
and you'd be like, you filthing monster.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
I this episode. One thing it did well was it
did a good job of showing and not telling. Yeah,
and it started with this Dan beating a seemingly random
drunk guy senseless. Yes, that was a very cool thing
because I was so immediately interested of is he blowing
off steam? And then he said he tells Julie. He's like, no,
(11:47):
I'm hoping it's gonna lead somewhere.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Yeah, it was great.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
Because it just kept me guessing as opposed to being
heavy handed. This episode had a lot of stuff where
I was like, where is this gonna go?
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Yeah, and it's nice to have that, you know, to
as we were referencing earlier with this wonderful actor working
with Paul in the prison, to wonder what's going on
actively when you're in the audience and then get the
answers as the story develops. As the episode progresses, It's
(12:18):
so nice to kind of be in on the mystery. H.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
And that was a good catch about the tattoo. I
don't know if I fully clocked that. I just noticed
we were prominently featuring tattoos, but yeah, catch.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Yeah, And that's that's why there was a There was
a direct cutaway when Dan said when I saw that,
I knew, and so it's yeah, it's just a Really
it's nice when writers treat audiences as though they are
as smart as they are.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
M H. It's refreshing, it's respectful. I like that we
let Chris Keller take a break from being the comedic
relief and we brought in our designated hitter of sweet
Sweet Antoine and that whole runner of him saying squad
that lead up him seeing her and preparing himself to
(13:16):
go talk to her and make a move, and then
seeing that she's pregnant. That reveal and then hiding behind
the car was so funny.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
It was wonderful. And he's got like, you know, he's
just like on a swaggy walk. He's having a good time,
and when he sees her he kind of gets a
little pepinist step. It's a great moment of just a
touch of physical comedy and then the full you know,
arms out, flattened body against the car. Antoine committed to
the bit so hard and I loved it.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
Yeah, he's so good with comedy. Man. Every time he
does him like, why aren't we doing this more? And
it's like, oh, because there's twenty five of us on
this cast, and yeah, he can't all be telling a
story at the same time.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
But it's so great and it was such a good
lead up to when you get ahead in the episode.
And eventually he shows up at Trick and he's asking
Steven for advice and Steven's on his way out and
is like, he's like, no, but you have to be
the bartender, Like you have to talk to me about this,
and it gave Steven such a great moment of humor
because he when he looks at Antwine and he says,
(14:21):
I'm gonna really, I'm gonna go really far out on
a limb and say, go talk to her. Yeah, like
just the simplest thing, just go have a conversation.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
Oh and by the way, this feels like the perfect
time to mention Joy's traveling today, folks, for those of
you who haven't guessed she's not with us today. I
just felt like I should wait fifteen minutes to make
this announcement. Oh yeah, rather than saying it right off
at the top. That's not confusing, right, No, not at all.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
I will say, you know, we were we were waiting
for a time because there was a chance she was
going to be able to jump into the zoom. But
the timing is not ideal today as we're both on
the West Coast and she's literally in London.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
It's just the.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Cards are not in our favor. But we're happy for
her trip.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
Yeah. Well, foggy London town strikes again. Okay, So getting
back to the episode and speaking of Joy, I wish
she was here. What an episode did.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Not have her for it's actually not cool.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
I tell you what, I will accept all of your
praise and my praise on Joy's behalf.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
Yes, Okay, that feels great, Like.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
She's not able to attend the Oscars, like I'm the
one who takes Yeah, you're.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
You're physically taking the award.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
I got it.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
Yeah, she was wonderful enough.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
It's such a beautiful performance, and I have to say,
I'm so glad that the world around her allowed for it.
You know, we obviously we joke a lot that like
who's this dressed up? Why is everyone always particularly the girls,
Why is everyone always in stiletto's or like a mini
skirt or it's just no one's ever just allowed to
(16:10):
be casual. And even the fact that she's just in
a beige cardigan, that she's in little flats, that she's
not really wearing much makeup, like they the hair, makeup, wardrobe,
the director, everyone let her be at a at a
(16:31):
minimal amount of presentational effort that allowed for the rawness
of her emotion to be the focus in the episode,
and it like nothing distracted from the way she prepared,
from the way I mean, even the way Greg shot
(16:54):
her and Chantelle in the car in slow motion and
just focusing on that gorgeous voiceover and all these stories,
all the things Haley's thinking about that she might never
get to say to him. Again. I loved every single
choice that was made on and behind the camera in
(17:14):
this episode for her.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
I just thought it was so beautiful.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
Yeah. I love when you have a scene where there's
real high, heavy emotional steaks and we can't hear what
people are saying. Yes, I am such a fan, like,
let me guess, let me be curious as to what's
going on. And so that whole car ride that we
were getting the voiceover instead, and again show don't tell.
(17:37):
Rather than just going Nathan so selfless he does everything
for the family. She tells this wonderful story about getting
his favorite flavor of ice cream wrong because he was
always ordering the flavor that he knew she really liked.
I was like, gosh, man, they just nailed it with
that one. Yeah, and then she just I mean, this
is the kind of episode when you get the screen,
(18:00):
didn't you read it? You're like, sh yeah, I got
a week and a half coming up. It's like, I
gotta be hysterical on a police station. I gotta cry
and a more. I mean, man, she had such heavy
lifting to do and she nailed it.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
Yeah, it was really great.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
And there it's those days, you know, I remember I
don't even remember why, you know, who knows. Maybe I
had the scene after, or maybe I was there for
a fitting or whatever, but I remember that i'd gone
by set that day because I was on you know,
(18:38):
the studio a lot, and seeing her standing in the
corner of the morgue with her headphones in, just like
getting ready for that scene, for that pullback of the sheet,
and feeling like, oh, I'm just going to stand here
like I'm going to I'm just going to hang for
(18:59):
a bit for moral Like these are the hardest moments
as an actor, and they're also so cathartic and to
your point. I just love the choices made in the edit.
The fact that we didn't hear her, you know, we
heard her on set. It was so tragic, but weirdly,
(19:21):
it's even more profound because you can't hear Haley, you
just see it, and so then you're also not sure.
You know, she's saying like cover them up, you know,
and she's making these gestures that read as no, but
you're thinking like, is it no because she's saying no,
I can't look at him like this, Or is it
(19:41):
no because she's saying no, that's not him, And it
leaves you in this scrambling feeling for what am I seeing?
Can I trust my opinions about what I'm seeing?
Speaker 4 (19:52):
It's really so.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
Good and having Quinn there for all of it was
really nice. Yeah. She she did such a good job.
And just I mean, Quinn is so likable. Yeah, And
I think part of it is because they oftentimes just
sort of have her be like support to the people
in her orbit. It's a lot of it's a lot
(20:15):
of supporting Clay and Hayley for her. But yeah, god shaw,
I tell us such a good job with it and
all this stuff. You're like, man, what a good sister
and what a great bond. Their stuff was awesome.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Well, and it's really nice too, I think in the
context of our show and the way that so many
female friendships were written, Yes, I do believe the female
friendships are a massive pillar, you know, tent pole of
the love stories on our show, but especially in high school,
(20:46):
they always had an element of some kind of competition,
some falling out and then falling back in someone slept
with someone's boyfriend, or everyone slept with everyone's boyfriends. Like
it was a bit trite times. And there's something really
refreshing about the Quinn and Haley world because Quinn comes
(21:07):
in when these women are adults, and yeah, it feels
a little weird that we never got to see her
in the high school years, but you know, you let
movie magic be movie magic and you move on. But
the fact that we have this really beautiful supportive relationship
between these two sisters, and it's not a tailor situation.
It's not like another terrible thing with women. It's just gorgeous.
(21:34):
It's like, it feels to your point, it just feels
like such a freaking payoff, and it's I don't know,
it gives me like a deep breath feeling, if that
makes sense.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
It does. I also liked this episode had a lot
of just duos. It was a lot of two person
scenes and it was nice to see people paired off.
I thought the Clay and Logan stuff was so adorable.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
That's so good.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
Pierce is so cute and so lovable, and that whole
like flying the airplane thing. Yeah, ah, I thought it
was great. Yeah, yeah, and then, of course, you know,
Clay finally does enough digging during man he is, in
(22:25):
fact the baby's daddy. Let me ask you this. I like, okay,
I like, I like where we get to, you know,
he realizes he has a son. Okay, and I have
never been in this position, so I have no idea
how I would react. However, it did seem odd to
me that he reacted like a petulant child and was like,
(22:45):
that's my son. No, he'll never be my son. I'm
leaving alone and stormed out. I thought, okay, you know what,
he's in shock. That just struck me as a little odd.
But here is my bigger question. I don't understand that
kid is got He's got to be what six?
Speaker 3 (23:07):
I think he's supposed to be like four or five?
Speaker 5 (23:11):
Perfect, even better for this point, he's four. If he's
four and a half years old, Yeah, he's unsupervised all
of the time.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Yeah, it's like, is this a secure campus?
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Also?
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Who watches him? Who does he stay with? Is it
the grandparents? Is that what we're saying in the story.
I can't remember.
Speaker 7 (23:27):
In this room, we don't ever say. That's why it's
odd to me. It's like this this child is he
has never had no grown ups are ever near him.
He's left alone in a room while by himself, like
he's a grown up. Also, yeah, where has he been
this whole time? It just seems like all of the
emphasis and the care and the thought was put on
(23:48):
getting helping Clay had this breakthrough, and zero concern was
given to this kid's well being. They're like, let's just
put him in a room down the hall and see
if Clay works it out.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Yeah, And I guess it's interesting because I wanted to
know how you felt about all of this stuff. It's
weird to me because what I find myself asking as
a viewer is but what does the kid know? Like,
does he know Clays his dad? Is a five year
(24:20):
old being asked to bread crumb like psychological information for
an adult. How is this stuff being how are things
being communicated with him? And obviously we can't see that
prior to the reveal because then we would.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
Be in on it.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
But I am I just have so many questions about
how we make sense of this, and I clearly so you.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
And like performance wise and just part of the storytelling,
I'm on board with it. It was fun. It was.
I'm just so I'm not disparaging the story of it.
I enjoyed that part of it, but I just found
myself going, I have so many questions that I hope
we get answers to, like where has he been living
for the last two years since Clay left? And where
(25:15):
are those people?
Speaker 6 (25:16):
Now?
Speaker 5 (25:16):
You know what I mean? It just yes, because also
it's like, why is this doctor here? Okay, I can
buy that as doctor maybe it took a trip to
come to Tree Hill to help his former patient. But
then it's like, so that did the kid as well?
You know, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Yeah, well, and that's what leads me down that sort
of rabbit hole of did you perhaps wind up in
treatment here while you were visiting Nathan back in the
day and then go home? Like is is that how
(25:52):
perhaps this has happened? I just it is all very confusing.
That's suddenly the therapist and the kid and the big
secret is here in the small town you know.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
Yeah, I don't know. Maybe we'll get some more information,
I hope.
Speaker 6 (26:06):
So.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
I loved how it ended with Clay being back at
the house and Quinn showing up and and he's like
I had my breakthrough and she's like, Okay, well listen,
you can tell me anything and it's not going to
change anything at all. And it just Clay kind of
has that oh boy look on his face. So I'm
excited to see how that goes over next episode.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
Yeah, do you remember it all?
Speaker 5 (26:41):
Not a thing?
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Oh my god, I don't either.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
It's killing The next thing I remember about the Clay,
Quinn and Logan storyline is actually just the endgame. So yeah,
I got a couple episodes of a ride. I have
no recollection of.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Yeah, I've got an outcome for you guys burned into
my memory from this season. But it's because I directed
the episode and it's one of my favorite scenes ever,
and so there there's something coming that I remember in
such a visceral way, but I don't remember how we
get there.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
Okay, all right, I'm excited. I didn't realize you had
directed one of these last ones coming up? Nice. Which
episode is it? Do you remember the number?
Speaker 3 (27:26):
I don't, okay, but it involves our very cool prop
from the superhero world.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
Oh then, yes, I remember your episode, and that's that
is all I basically okay, great, yeah, okay, yeah, it's
enough talking on a subject that probably everyone listening already
knows what it's like.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
You guys are so lame, we know what's coming.
Speaker 5 (27:46):
I know that was so cool though, all right, but
here's what's not cool. Xavior, What the hell man?
Speaker 4 (27:53):
How is this allowed?
Speaker 5 (27:55):
Like?
Speaker 3 (27:55):
How is he allowed within one hundred feet of her
let alone in her place of work?
Speaker 5 (28:01):
I had the same thing. I mean, first of all,
this guy needs a hobby and a life, because come on,
you can't spend all day every day eating cherry pie. Also,
who sits down and needs three pieces of cherry pie
in a row? Only a lunatic, Only a psychopath, only
a psycopa. That should be enough reason. Straight to jail,
Straight to jail.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Sure, you have to go. It's just so unsettling. And
he's such a wonderful actor, you know, he he leans in,
he does this thing where he almost puts something sweet
or he plays sweet over really monstrous thoughts. Yea, so
(28:43):
it feels saccerin. It feels like really creepy and sticky.
And oh, he just makes me so uncomfortable. And what
is skill, you know, to be a nice person who
just can embody something wild? But I appreciated the misdirect,
you know, putting up the sign the best Bosses ever
(29:07):
moment is clearly also like a little dig about the
cafe across the street, which I think is a nice runner.
And interestingly, the I thought it made this surprise of
Xavier hit harder going from the help wanted sign down
to the Nathan is missing sign. Yeah, because you're having
this experience in this tight knit friend group in this
(29:31):
small town community, and then it's the boogeyman. And it
really was effective the way Greg shot that.
Speaker 5 (29:38):
And Okay, so I get it. You and I both
love dogs. We had lots of dogs, We love them immensely.
We get it. However, would you ever, if your dog
was missing put up a missing dog poster over a
missing person poster?
Speaker 1 (29:59):
No?
Speaker 5 (30:00):
Did you catch that moment when Haley's walking down the
street crying and she sees that they're one of Nathan's
posters has been covered up with a missing dog poster?
Speaker 4 (30:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (30:13):
I don't know, guys, I don't think you can do that.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
I don't think you can no.
Speaker 5 (30:20):
Go lower, go higher, But you can't do that. There's
just a hierarchy.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
I know.
Speaker 5 (30:25):
Listen, I love a dog as much as the next person. Yeah, ah,
they don't supersede a missing human. So when that moment happened,
I was like, ooh, I'd almost be writing down that
number just to be like, hey, didn't find your dog,
but I found some decency you left behind boom roasted.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
But Xavier. Here's why I like it though, because yes,
he's great. I believe that he's dangerous. I'm curious not
what's going to happen. But it also gives us the
opportunity to see Julian be a hunky hero. And he
storms in and he said, no one threatens my wife
or eats three slices of cherry pie and one sitting
(31:06):
get out.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
It's really nice the way he yanks Xavier out. I
was like, okay, okay, Austin, you go.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
And he's still a little roughed up from when he
got bet up to he looks kind of cool. Is
a scab. I'm like, ooh, yeah, it totally.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
It gives him a little ooph mm hmmm. And there
is there's almost this sort of cloud of you know,
there's a there's a little cloud of darkness over Julian
that wasn't there before.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
And it it works really well. For this stuff.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
It's like, this is a man who's been through some
shit and he is not to be messed with, and
it's really nice.
Speaker 5 (31:50):
Yeah, it was great. I thought all of that was great,
speaking of a man not to be messed with, Sweet
sweet Chase. The storyline's great, it really is. So when
Chris Keller comes into I think it's at Chase's place,
He's like, hey, let's have a beer, and Chase is saying,
like Officer pinal code, do do do do do? And
(32:12):
I thought he was talking about drinking a beer and
I'm like, oh, my freaking dork, just drink a beer.
You're not in the cockpit right now. And then but
it was for like battery, he was already thinking, like
he was kind of already having a plan of like
I think this is going to go the way I
think it is. I think it's going to go sideways,
and I need to know what I'm in store for.
(32:34):
And I liked watching him calculate, like can I live
with the consequences of what I think I'm going to do?
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Yes, Like what will it mean for me for the
rest of my life if I defend this kid in
the way that I want to Yeah, it's cool.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
Also, I'm pretty sure if you beat someone with a
tire iron, yeah, you're doing long term, if not forever damage.
And because we see through the silhouette of the front window,
you see how high he is raising the crowbar and
bringing it down, and you're like, I hope you were
(33:13):
hitting the legs right, But he's covered in blood in
the in the police card, it's like, were you going.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
For I'll break your kneecaps like a little mafia retribution?
What was really happening in there? Because to your point,
what it looks like, and this is something that bugs
me a bit about film and TV is sometimes I
feel like the stunt coordination really takes it to a
ten when it only needs to be a six. It's like, well,
(33:42):
what we saw in silhouette looked like an attempted murder. Yeah,
not really, like I'm going to rough someone up. So
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
But it's also.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
You know, it's it's heroic, it's personal, it's all the things.
And so obviously we're rooting for him, and I'm like,
are you gonna go to jail forever?
Speaker 5 (34:06):
I don't know, man, And and again this is the
hindsight of being like a Monday morning quarterback. But you're like,
I want to save this kid from this traumatizing experience
by watching making him watch another traumatizing experience. You know,
he's essentially watching the silhouette of his dad getting beat
to death with a tire iron and then Clay walking
(34:27):
out with blood spattered all over his face. Excuse me,
Chase walking out with blood spattered over his face. It was
just one of like, again, I completely get it. It
was a hero moment Chase came running out of the house. Yeah,
but it was also like, oh, it almost would have
been better if you had just like taken him somewhere
else and then came back and nearly killed his father.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
Yeah. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (34:50):
Maybe Chase just didn't want to go to the Air Force,
and he was like, I don't want to be called
a quitter. I know, I know I'll beat a scumbag yeah,
within an inch of his life.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
Yeah, I'll be a hero and also get discharged.
Speaker 5 (35:04):
Mm hmm. It's a bold move, though, the tir n't.
He didn't even want to go fisticuffs, huh. He was
just like, I don't know if I can beat this
guy one on one so I'm going to bring him
a murdering tool in with me.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
I mean, he's truck's dad's a big dude, but he's
a built guy.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
And yeah, I guess if you're not trying to have
an even fight.
Speaker 4 (35:29):
You know, he's saying, if you do this, like.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
I'll make you regret it.
Speaker 5 (35:34):
M hm.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
And so I understand the the escalation, but yeah, I'm
very curious about what that looks like for him.
Speaker 5 (35:43):
Yeah, you know, and maybe Chase just didn't want to
hurt his hands. Maybe he just gotten a manny you know.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
You know, well you need you need your you need.
Speaker 5 (35:51):
Your hands to this is true to fly the airplane. Yeah, okay,
well you know, I listen, I didn't mind it because
that guy's a scumbag. So I was. I was all
for the ride. I just you know, as you watch,
you also have that rational part of your brain being
like lou Dog that's attempted murder, like you're going to prison,
You're not just like you like at the good Guy
discount and you get a slap on the wrist.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
Exactly.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
We've all watched enough Law and Order and enough true
crime to be like, oh, I have a hunch, I
know what that charge is going to look like, and
it's not going to be good for you.
Speaker 5 (36:19):
No, no, it's not.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
It's not.
Speaker 5 (36:23):
What we needed Chase to do was finish beating on
Chuck's dad and then just pop right over to Karen's
cafe and give Xavier a little tune up.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
Yes, that would have been great, just.
Speaker 5 (36:35):
Like why you're on this heater, go ahead and take
care of that guy too.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Yeah, I just I just can't get over. And look,
it's a great device. It makes Brook feel very unsettled.
It makes Julian feel very protective. Obviously, there's now as
you know, as they have me mention when I come
into the house and Julian's with the kids, and I'm like,
he came to the cafe, you know. I like that
(36:59):
in the dialogue, I get to talk about the fact
that we have these two defenseless babies. Now it isn't
just us. Everything feels heavier.
Speaker 5 (37:09):
But I just.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
I'm confused about why the first call isn't immediately to
the police. You know, he's violating you to be harassing
someone that you went to jail for assaulting when you
also kidnapped a minor like that must be a violation
of your parole to be come into this lady's office.
Speaker 5 (37:33):
Absolutely the reason it didn't make sense to me, But actually, weirdly,
that's why it worked for me, because to me, that
is not someone who's thinking rationally. You don't show up
to the place of work of the person who just
vocally said, vocally, you know, advocated for you staying in prison.
(37:54):
So to me, it kind of added to the threat
and the menace because this guy clearly doesn't give enough
shits ye to be safe.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Yeah, he's he's obviously unhinged because he's not acting in
the best interests of his own future, forget even for her.
Speaker 5 (38:14):
Yeah, you know it.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
We clearly he hasn't grown enough to regret or have
remorse for what he did to her. But he's he's
literally jeopardizing his own freedom. Yeah, by his behavior.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
Yeah, it's scary.
Speaker 5 (38:30):
I liked seeing David pop back up into town speaking
of welcome faces and not speaking of WelCom faces. David
was a cool surprise, and that scene with Quinn and
David at Clay's pool was great.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
Yeah, I really liked it.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
I liked that he was self deprecating. You know the
fact that the writers had David make fun of himself.
Speaker 5 (38:50):
Yeah, finally dating outside the Quinn the James Jamers.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Sisters like, it's great because it gives you. It gives
you a way to share in a laugh. And his
being self deprecating immediately, at least for me as an
audience member, undid some of the ick I felt about him.
I was like, oh, look, everybody's growing cool.
Speaker 5 (39:16):
Yeah. It was good self awareness. Yeah, and I liked
that we had people sort of not under not having
all the information, like the way Antoine didn't, or the
way Skills didn't and the way that Quinn didn't. And
then there's that scene with all of them in the
cafe where they all are having aha moments at the
same time, Yes, where.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
It dawns on everyone and the camera pings around and
you're just on the ride as a viewer.
Speaker 5 (39:43):
And for those viewers that don't know, Scott Holroyd who
plays David is Alison mun who plays Miss Lauren's real
life husband. Yes, and she was pregnant in real life
with their actual baby. So it was a fun little
meta joke that it was great for us to. We
all liked Scott and he kind of came in out
so fast as David initially, so it's great to have
(40:04):
him back, and it's always great to have Alison back.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
Yeah, it's so much fun, and it's one of those
cool things that you get to do. You know, when
you hear people talk about the way shows become a family,
this is one of the things you get to do
with your family. Like, you know, when someone's actual baby
is in the show, like one of my boys was
Clark's son. When you know you're panning across a bar
(40:28):
scene and like your DP or your makeup artist.
Speaker 4 (40:31):
Is in the shot.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
You know, Jonie, our hairdresser, being the woman who gave
Quinn the panther tan. Like, it's so fun when you
get to just have a little moment for the fam
where everyone who makes the show is in on it.
And this felt like one of those really cool things
because Alison and Scott are such great actors, and you know,
(40:53):
we were all so excited about this.
Speaker 4 (40:54):
Baby and the.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
Miss Lauren and David winding up together was just like
a little wink wink with our friends and it was
really cool.
Speaker 5 (41:06):
Yes, kicks, you got any honorable mentions?
Speaker 4 (41:21):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
Honestly, I enjoyed the episode so much, and I thought
all the performances were so wonderful. The obvious honorable mention
clearly is Joy. My less obvious honorable mentions. Greg pranch
As our director Ooh for our Friends at Home. Greg
was our supervising executive producer. I believe he directed more
(41:46):
episodes of our show than any other director. He came
to us from running Dawson's Creek. Like talk about a
guy who who was just part of such iconic coming
of a stories. And he was always one of my
favorite people to learn from on our set technically and creatively.
(42:09):
And there are just all these choices that he made
in this episode that and I think I said this earlier,
that really feel like the best of what One Tree
Hill was, like all its most wonderful moments. This episode
gave me that kind of nostalgia, and I just thought
(42:30):
he made brilliant choices Allah the voiceover and the slow
motion and the soundless sequences for Haley like it just
it added something that was so profound and that I
think is really the magic of directing and producing. And
I think he really deserves his flowers.
Speaker 6 (42:52):
For that one.
Speaker 5 (42:53):
Yeah, I second all three, both of those, and I
would add Johnny Richardson to the list because this episode
was just really well executed, kind of on all the levels.
It was written well, it was shot well. I thought
it was performed very well. This was a really fun
episode and on behalf of Joy. Thank you for all
(43:14):
of the praise. It's just so nice to be acknowledged
and appreciated by my peers. I respect so much. Yeah,
she was great, she was awesome, fantastic. Oh look at
this listener question. It's almost like Tara knew it was
just going to be the two of us today. She asked,
what snack would you pick to be magically calorie free forever?
(43:37):
Oh my gosh, Tarah, what a good question I've never
thought of.
Speaker 3 (43:42):
Wow, Oh this is hard. Okay, So my initial like
the thing my brain said before I realized it was
saying something, was well, we would probably both say corn dogs.
Caveat a corn dog is not a thing that I
can ease access all the time, Like I don't have
(44:02):
a deep fryer at my house. So I thought yes,
and then I thought, but then I don't get to
eat them as often as i'd like. So truly, the
thing that I make the most at all times of
day and night. And also I know it's like a
bad thing to, you know, eat copious amounts of snacks
at two am, but sometimes I do it. I'm a
(44:22):
popcorn girl. It's my favorite thing. I like to I
like to fresh pop it like, yeah, I'll do it
in the microwave bag, but I'd rather do it on the.
Speaker 4 (44:31):
Stove, like in a pot.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
The idea that I could just at any time of
day or night eat as many bags of popcorn as
I wanted and it would be like water would be
very cool for me.
Speaker 5 (44:46):
I hear that, and I feel like you sold yourself short.
Why because it's not a very colerically dense food you
can get Like I just feel like, yeah, because you
can get like reduced calorie popcorn, you know, or as
I feel like I don't, you should have good. Good
for you for loving yourself. But like to me, I'm
gonna tell you, I actually I corn dog went into
(45:07):
my brain, but it wasn't the forefront because it's a
special food. It's not really a snack. It's a treat food.
It's an occasion food. Yeah, mine was donuts. If I
could just wake up and I could slam like three
donuts and it's a freebie. I would be Could you
imagine you get to have a little donut on the
go with you in the car, a little bear claw
(45:29):
before bet? Like, what what are we doing? That would
be incredible.
Speaker 3 (45:33):
See I'm not really a sweet person.
Speaker 5 (45:36):
Ah okay, I will have.
Speaker 3 (45:37):
A bite of a donut and then I'm over it.
I would rather have a second steak for dessert than
a dessert.
Speaker 5 (45:43):
I feel that.
Speaker 3 (45:44):
But like if if bread, if bread could be my water,
all I'd be in because I want it all the time.
Like I'll bake bread, I'll get fresh bread, I go
to the farmer's market for bread. If I could eat
half a sour dough loaf in morning and the other
half before bed and have it not count toward my
(46:06):
you know daily? Am I healthy or not great? And
here's the thing, it's not that I don't eat the bread.
It's just that I don't. I don't gorge myself on
bread the way I want.
Speaker 5 (46:18):
To sure, the way your body cries out for you
to decimate an entire loaf.
Speaker 6 (46:22):
You know what?
Speaker 5 (46:22):
Another word one would be chips.
Speaker 3 (46:25):
Yeah, like those tower seven chips. Get out of town,
Get out of town.
Speaker 5 (46:29):
I could just sit in a bag of chips, end
up burning more calories than I'm taking in just by
eating it. Yeah, forget about it.
Speaker 4 (46:37):
Tarah a great question, good one.
Speaker 5 (46:39):
Tara with a hard hitting question. Yead, we didn't talk
about food this once this entire episode, so you know
what to all the people say, all I do is
talk about food. False, We didn't today. Tara made us
at the very end of the episode.
Speaker 4 (46:51):
You are you are vindicated and correct.
Speaker 5 (46:54):
Let's spin a wheel.
Speaker 4 (46:55):
I was just going to say. It took the words
right out of my mouth.
Speaker 5 (46:59):
We're becoming the same person.
Speaker 4 (47:01):
Yeah, we knew about that.
Speaker 5 (47:04):
Oh, most likely to adopt a pet on a whim,
Sophia Bush done.
Speaker 7 (47:12):
Yeah, it's you.
Speaker 3 (47:13):
Yeah, it's always been me. It's always been me, Like
to the point that I've tried many years ago, when
I was living in Chicago, I was fostering dogs and
I fostered one and then I started to foster another one,
and then I was like, I think I'm supposed to
keep this dog, and like turned out this dog that
I long term fostered is my new phrase for it
(47:36):
and my dog Penny. They hated each other, Sweet Penny
and Penny's never hated anyone, and Penny and this dog
were just like they hated each other. And I tried
for months. I took them to like a behavioral specialist,
even on the recommendation of a friend of mine. I'm
so ashamed to admit this. I even took them to
(47:57):
see a dog psychic to figure out why they hated
each other. I was like, I'll do anything, and they
were just like truly incompatible animals. And now this long
term foster of mine lives with my dear friend Amanda
and her family, and Amanda was like, you just rescued
my dog for me that I wasn't sure I was
ready for. And then I loved her and she had
to be mine. And so it's this crazy thing where like,
(48:20):
even though sometimes I know I should not do this,
I'm like, there's going to be a reason, there's going
to be a purpose. Even if I'm like a long
term stay for an animal, I'm always open to it.
Speaker 5 (48:33):
You're one of the good ones so far, and then.
Speaker 3 (48:35):
Sometimes you know, like Patch fourteen years later.
Speaker 4 (48:41):
They're just the best, they're the best.
Speaker 3 (48:43):
The problem though, for me, to bring it back to
our friend Martha Stewart, is I I'm not Martha, like
I don't live on a farm full time with like
and you travel purple, and I try well and I work.
And if I had my drothers, like you know when
people say if I won the lottery, I wouldn't say anything,
(49:06):
but there would be signs, like suddenly there would be
barns and horses and lamas and goats and.
Speaker 5 (49:15):
Dogs and like it would be Sophia's Arc. Yes, people
would be.
Speaker 3 (49:18):
Like, wow, you suddenly have so many animals, and I'd
be like, I know, everything's just coming up roses for me.
Speaker 5 (49:26):
All right, I gotta pete tell them what next episode is? Bye?
Speaker 3 (49:28):
Everyone, Oh friends, this is what happens when only two
of us are here. Next episode is Season nine, Episode nine.
Every breath is a bomb. Doesn't sound good, doesn't sound good,
but I hope it's great. We appreciate you all.
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This is why you got to watch the show on YouTube.
For those of you listening, So if you just picked
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Speaker 4 (00:37):
Know, I do what I can to please you.
Speaker 5 (00:40):
Rob, Thanks for that friend anytime. Do you know you
were in my dream last night?
Speaker 4 (00:45):
I was what were we doing here?
Speaker 5 (00:46):
We got into a little tiff by the way we did. Yeah,
we were at a public event and we got into
a tiff and I actually did the thing where like
I pointed at you and I went like like as
if like get to the other room, like I was
scold you like I was a parent.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Yeah, why what were we tiffing about?
Speaker 5 (01:03):
Well? Offline about it? We'll offline about it. Oh, I
can't wait. Yeah, yeah, teaser for the audience. Maybe we'll
cover it in a different episode. I don't know, I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
I am in two weeks. One of my best friends
is getting married, and so obviously like our group chats
with all of our friends or what's everyone we're into
the wedding and when's your flight and when does everyone arrive?
And who's carpooling? And you know, like logistics and the
night before last, you know when you have one of
those crazy nights where you feel like you have a
dream from the moment you go to bed till the
(01:32):
moment you wake up, like it never changes. I spent
an entire night dreaming about her wedding. But I was
the wedding planner down to like the headset and the clipboard,
and I was moving around and organizing things and getting
like all the kids in order and all the and
I woke up being like, Wow, what a crazy thing
(01:53):
that I just spent the entire night dreaming about brittin
Alex's wedding. And then I also was like, have I
have I maybe missed a calling? I'm very organized and I,
at least in the dream was an excellent wedding planner.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
Well, I would say you are very talented, so to
be fair, I think you've missed several callings only by
virtue of the fact there there's only one of you
in twenty four hours in a day.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Angel.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
I do think you would crush as a wedding coordinator
because that plays to a lot of your strengths. And
the good news is if the wedding coordinator falls like
deathly ill on the day, you now know you are
a suitable candidate to step up and fill the shoes.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Oh my god, if my dream weirdly manifested that, I
will strangely be ready. But I hope not because I
want her to not be stressed.
Speaker 6 (02:43):
You know.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
Yeah, here's the question. Are you ready to discuss this
banger of an episode.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
I don't have a clipboard, but I do have notes.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
Okay, good, let's hop into it. So Season nine, episode eight,
A Rush of Blood to the Head, aired February twenty ninth,
twenty twelve. Is February twenty ninth, the day that only
happens every four years. Yes, that's a leap yer check
track because this was a pretty special episode. Synopsis reads
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Haley receives news of a possible tragedy. Boy did she ever?
Dan's search for Nathan leads him back to his dark past,
and Clay has a blake breakthrough in his treatment that
is to say the least. And then if there appears
to be more, but all we have is Broomber, which
I believe was going to be something about Brook. I'm
(03:34):
guessing it's Brooke encounters an unwelcome guest multiple times at
Karen's cafe.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Yes, I would, I would think that that is the
missing section of the synopsis. This episode was directed by
our very own Greg Prange, was written by the lovely
Johnny Richardson, and I gotta say I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
This felt like we're very in the wheelhouse of what
we do best, and touche to Johnny Richardson. So many
of the questions that I think we've all been watching
episodes in season nine thus far and going what the hell?
How does Dan know this? And why is this relevant?
There were things that were revealed in this episode. I
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felt like I got a couple of bo's on some
gifts and I liked it.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
I agree. I had two big takeaways. One was I
remember when we started doing this podcast, and I were
saying to you guys, like, I think Dan's my favorite character.
I just loved watching Dan, and this episode it was
like a love letter to that feeling because he was
so fun to watch. He's so great in this role,
(04:44):
but in this particular season that we find Dan in
and also, okay, we all know the term jumping the shark.
Oh yeah, I want to float this. I think our
show is very good at writing the shark interesting.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Where it's almost ridiculously too far.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
And then they pull it back that's right, and we
just we just sort of ride this fine line of
being absurdist. You get good enough that you don't mind,
and you're like, I'll go for this ride. I like that.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
I like that.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
I'm getting like a nice visual of the bridle on
the shark, and it's like, just when it's too far,
we rein it.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
In You're still on a shark. Still in Yep, there
are Eastern European assassins in the small town of tree Hill,
as we all know. Uh, but it's okay because it works.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
It does. And interestingly, the lovely guy who played Dan's
prison friend, he had the tattoo, which is why Dan
knows the symbol. We finally, we finally get it. He
was so good and and I found myself thinking, God,
thank goodness, they got such a good actor. It's so
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refreshing to watch him and Paul moving through the yard
talking at their lives. You understand that they've all suffered
behind bars at the hands of this I don't know
guard cop. Whatever he was. Is not that that justifies violence,
but you go, oh, there's there's more of a story here.
I see there's a there's a system and a life
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that we just didn't really get the you know, the
privilege is an audience to view day in and day
out while Dan was in prison. But it helped me
understand things so effectively that even when he was talking
about the guys who have Nathan and saying, you don't
get it, these guys are assassins, I didn't mind it.
(06:38):
It was so silly, but I didn't mind it. I
was like, I'm all in on whatever you two are selling.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
That guy. And I apologize to the actor because I
don't know his name and it's not in the notes,
but he was. He was so good. First of all,
his performance is great because it's so challenging to be
a guest star, especially to come on to such like
to an already established successful machine. Yeah, and especially when
you only have one scene. Yes, all of your instincts
(07:06):
are like, well, I gotta crush this, and like the
trap you fall into is you end up doing the
most and that never looks good. And this guy was
great because he did the least and it was so
effective and it was so good. I almost didn't notice
that that was the club med of prisons, I.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Know, the little outdoor garden and the tiny barn.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
It was very chic.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
It was an idyllic sanctuary, Like I couldn't believe how
beautiful was and I thought like, wow, this is this
is like where Martha Stewart went. Yeah, these guys are gangsters. Yeah,
lovely love. I want to spend a weekend there.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Perhaps, you know we've talked about this in our fantasy.
Perhaps Martha and Victoria were there together and they created
the community garden that later benefited all these men who
just needed a second chance.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
Just for a minut imagine how fun a show would
be of Martha Stewart playing herself in Victoria coming into
Martha's world and watching them like Orange is the New
Black Boat with Martha Stewart and Victoria Davis.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
No, it's my literal dream, like it's the show I
think we deserve next.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Also, weirdly, have we ever talked about the fact that
my mom and Martha Stewart could be cousins? Like they
look so much alike.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
You're telling me your aunt Martha is actually Martha Stewart.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Oh my god, what I would give? Could you imagine?
Speaker 5 (08:37):
That would be so cool? You know what else we
should do? This would be very meta. But the one Tree,
He'll hear me out. I don't know how you guys
are coming along with the spin off, but if you're
open to huge structural ideas, Okay, ok, changing everything Real
Housewives of.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Tree True Hill.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Oh my god, that's actually so funny.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
Because we always talk about that the moms on the
show are just absolute assassins and we just don't get
enough of them. So give us a show that revolves
around them.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
By the way, I think about this all the time.
To get a Karen deb and Victoria show would be
so amazed, Like I would just be so happy.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
Oh. Yes, and also you can't forget Sharon Lawrence.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Yes, Sylvia yes, So where's Antoine's mom? Like, I want
to know, I want to know skills as missus Taylor,
where's she at? Like I want to see that world
so badly. And don't get me wrong, I love the teens.
There's a nostalgia when you watch a teen story. But
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one of the things that I think has been really
cool about the timeline of the decades we've been working
actors is people are also realizing, like, oh, people in
their forties, fifties, and sixties are really interesting, and like,
I want to see these people as parents and then
(09:58):
their parents, like so badly to see Victoria in her
grandma era. But she's Victoria, so she's like so hot
and cool and doing cool shit.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Give it to me.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
Yeah, And because every cast has to have just an
absolute loose cannon wild card, hear me out Chuck's mom.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Oh my god, it would be amazing. It would be amazing,
especially after this episode how she's reinvented herself and you know,
she'd be doing.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
Something incredible now.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Yeah, she would have gotten out from under the thumb
of this horrible man. Yeah, and she'd just be thriving. Yes,
I want that. I want more of that.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
Okay, well, now that we have fully explored our fan
fiction ideas, let's actually talk about the episode.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
So.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
I love that we opened with the bar that Dan
is waiting outside of was actually is the Blue Post,
which is like the local neighborhood bar that we all
went to all the time.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Yes, I know, that's like all in caps in the
beginning of my notes. And I also love just for
the humor of it that my notes app auto corrected
why is he kicking the shit out of this old guy?
To why is he kicking the short out of this
old guy?
Speaker 5 (11:11):
Yeah, what's his ducking problem?
Speaker 3 (11:14):
I love it.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
It's like when you had to do bad adr for
a movie so they could show it on a plane
and you'd be like, you filthing monster.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
I this episode. One thing it did well was it
did a good job of showing and not telling. Yeah,
and it started with this Dan beating a seemingly random
drunk guy senseless. Yes, that was a very cool thing
because I was so immediately interested of is he blowing
off steam? And then he said he tells Julie. He's like, no,
(11:47):
I'm hoping it's gonna lead somewhere.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Yeah, it was great.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
Because it just kept me guessing as opposed to being
heavy handed. This episode had a lot of stuff where
I was like, where is this gonna go?
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Yeah, and it's nice to have that, you know, to
as we were referencing earlier with this wonderful actor working
with Paul in the prison, to wonder what's going on
actively when you're in the audience and then get the
answers as the story develops. As the episode progresses, It's
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so nice to kind of be in on the mystery. H.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
And that was a good catch about the tattoo. I
don't know if I fully clocked that. I just noticed
we were prominently featuring tattoos, but yeah, catch.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Yeah, And that's that's why there was a There was
a direct cutaway when Dan said when I saw that,
I knew, and so it's yeah, it's just a Really
it's nice when writers treat audiences as though they are
as smart as they are.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
M H. It's refreshing, it's respectful. I like that we
let Chris Keller take a break from being the comedic
relief and we brought in our designated hitter of sweet
Sweet Antoine and that whole runner of him saying squad
that lead up him seeing her and preparing himself to
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go talk to her and make a move, and then
seeing that she's pregnant. That reveal and then hiding behind
the car was so funny.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
It was wonderful. And he's got like, you know, he's
just like on a swaggy walk. He's having a good time,
and when he sees her he kind of gets a
little pepinist step. It's a great moment of just a
touch of physical comedy and then the full you know,
arms out, flattened body against the car. Antoine committed to
the bit so hard and I loved it.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
Yeah, he's so good with comedy. Man. Every time he
does him like, why aren't we doing this more? And
it's like, oh, because there's twenty five of us on
this cast, and yeah, he can't all be telling a
story at the same time.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
But it's so great and it was such a good
lead up to when you get ahead in the episode.
And eventually he shows up at Trick and he's asking
Steven for advice and Steven's on his way out and
is like, he's like, no, but you have to be
the bartender, Like you have to talk to me about this,
and it gave Steven such a great moment of humor
because he when he looks at Antwine and he says,
(14:21):
I'm gonna really, I'm gonna go really far out on
a limb and say, go talk to her. Yeah, like
just the simplest thing, just go have a conversation.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
Oh and by the way, this feels like the perfect
time to mention Joy's traveling today, folks, for those of
you who haven't guessed she's not with us today. I
just felt like I should wait fifteen minutes to make
this announcement. Oh yeah, rather than saying it right off
at the top. That's not confusing, right, No, not at all.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
I will say, you know, we were we were waiting
for a time because there was a chance she was
going to be able to jump into the zoom. But
the timing is not ideal today as we're both on
the West Coast and she's literally in London.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
It's just the.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Cards are not in our favor. But we're happy for
her trip.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
Yeah. Well, foggy London town strikes again. Okay, So getting
back to the episode and speaking of Joy, I wish
she was here. What an episode did.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Not have her for it's actually not cool.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
I tell you what, I will accept all of your
praise and my praise on Joy's behalf.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
Yes, Okay, that feels great, Like.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
She's not able to attend the Oscars, like I'm the
one who takes Yeah, you're.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
You're physically taking the award.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
I got it.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
Yeah, she was wonderful enough.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
It's such a beautiful performance, and I have to say,
I'm so glad that the world around her allowed for it.
You know, we obviously we joke a lot that like
who's this dressed up? Why is everyone always particularly the girls,
Why is everyone always in stiletto's or like a mini
skirt or it's just no one's ever just allowed to
(16:10):
be casual. And even the fact that she's just in
a beige cardigan, that she's in little flats, that she's
not really wearing much makeup, like they the hair, makeup, wardrobe,
the director, everyone let her be at a at a
(16:31):
minimal amount of presentational effort that allowed for the rawness
of her emotion to be the focus in the episode,
and it like nothing distracted from the way she prepared,
from the way I mean, even the way Greg shot
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her and Chantelle in the car in slow motion and
just focusing on that gorgeous voiceover and all these stories,
all the things Haley's thinking about that she might never
get to say to him. Again. I loved every single
choice that was made on and behind the camera in
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this episode for her.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
I just thought it was so beautiful.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
Yeah. I love when you have a scene where there's
real high, heavy emotional steaks and we can't hear what
people are saying. Yes, I am such a fan, like,
let me guess, let me be curious as to what's
going on. And so that whole car ride that we
were getting the voiceover instead, and again show don't tell.
(17:37):
Rather than just going Nathan so selfless he does everything
for the family. She tells this wonderful story about getting
his favorite flavor of ice cream wrong because he was
always ordering the flavor that he knew she really liked.
I was like, gosh, man, they just nailed it with
that one. Yeah, and then she just I mean, this
is the kind of episode when you get the screen,
(18:00):
didn't you read it? You're like, sh yeah, I got
a week and a half coming up. It's like, I
gotta be hysterical on a police station. I gotta cry
and a more. I mean, man, she had such heavy
lifting to do and she nailed it.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
Yeah, it was really great.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
And there it's those days, you know, I remember I
don't even remember why, you know, who knows. Maybe I
had the scene after, or maybe I was there for
a fitting or whatever, but I remember that i'd gone
by set that day because I was on you know,
(18:38):
the studio a lot, and seeing her standing in the
corner of the morgue with her headphones in, just like
getting ready for that scene, for that pullback of the sheet,
and feeling like, oh, I'm just going to stand here
like I'm going to I'm just going to hang for
(18:59):
a bit for moral Like these are the hardest moments
as an actor, and they're also so cathartic and to
your point. I just love the choices made in the edit.
The fact that we didn't hear her, you know, we
heard her on set. It was so tragic, but weirdly,
(19:21):
it's even more profound because you can't hear Haley, you
just see it, and so then you're also not sure.
You know, she's saying like cover them up, you know,
and she's making these gestures that read as no, but
you're thinking like, is it no because she's saying no,
I can't look at him like this, Or is it
(19:41):
no because she's saying no, that's not him, And it
leaves you in this scrambling feeling for what am I seeing?
Can I trust my opinions about what I'm seeing?
Speaker 4 (19:52):
It's really so.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
Good and having Quinn there for all of it was
really nice. Yeah. She she did such a good job.
And just I mean, Quinn is so likable. Yeah, And
I think part of it is because they oftentimes just
sort of have her be like support to the people
in her orbit. It's a lot of it's a lot
(20:15):
of supporting Clay and Hayley for her. But yeah, god shaw,
I tell us such a good job with it and
all this stuff. You're like, man, what a good sister
and what a great bond. Their stuff was awesome.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Well, and it's really nice too, I think in the
context of our show and the way that so many
female friendships were written, Yes, I do believe the female
friendships are a massive pillar, you know, tent pole of
the love stories on our show, but especially in high school,
(20:46):
they always had an element of some kind of competition,
some falling out and then falling back in someone slept
with someone's boyfriend, or everyone slept with everyone's boyfriends. Like
it was a bit trite times. And there's something really
refreshing about the Quinn and Haley world because Quinn comes
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in when these women are adults, and yeah, it feels
a little weird that we never got to see her
in the high school years, but you know, you let
movie magic be movie magic and you move on. But
the fact that we have this really beautiful supportive relationship
between these two sisters, and it's not a tailor situation.
It's not like another terrible thing with women. It's just gorgeous.
(21:34):
It's like, it feels to your point, it just feels
like such a freaking payoff, and it's I don't know,
it gives me like a deep breath feeling, if that
makes sense.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
It does. I also liked this episode had a lot
of just duos. It was a lot of two person
scenes and it was nice to see people paired off.
I thought the Clay and Logan stuff was so adorable.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
That's so good.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
Pierce is so cute and so lovable, and that whole
like flying the airplane thing. Yeah, ah, I thought it
was great. Yeah, yeah, and then, of course, you know,
Clay finally does enough digging during man he is, in
(22:25):
fact the baby's daddy. Let me ask you this. I like, okay,
I like, I like where we get to, you know,
he realizes he has a son. Okay, and I have
never been in this position, so I have no idea
how I would react. However, it did seem odd to
me that he reacted like a petulant child and was like,
(22:45):
that's my son. No, he'll never be my son. I'm
leaving alone and stormed out. I thought, okay, you know what,
he's in shock. That just struck me as a little odd.
But here is my bigger question. I don't understand that
kid is got He's got to be what six?
Speaker 3 (23:07):
I think he's supposed to be like four or five?
Speaker 5 (23:11):
Perfect, even better for this point, he's four. If he's
four and a half years old, Yeah, he's unsupervised all
of the time.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Yeah, it's like, is this a secure campus?
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Also?
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Who watches him? Who does he stay with? Is it
the grandparents? Is that what we're saying in the story.
I can't remember.
Speaker 7 (23:27):
In this room, we don't ever say. That's why it's
odd to me. It's like this this child is he
has never had no grown ups are ever near him.
He's left alone in a room while by himself, like
he's a grown up. Also, yeah, where has he been
this whole time? It just seems like all of the
emphasis and the care and the thought was put on
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getting helping Clay had this breakthrough, and zero concern was
given to this kid's well being. They're like, let's just
put him in a room down the hall and see
if Clay works it out.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Yeah, And I guess it's interesting because I wanted to
know how you felt about all of this stuff. It's
weird to me because what I find myself asking as
a viewer is but what does the kid know? Like,
does he know Clays his dad? Is a five year
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old being asked to bread crumb like psychological information for
an adult. How is this stuff being how are things
being communicated with him? And obviously we can't see that
prior to the reveal because then we would.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
Be in on it.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
But I am I just have so many questions about
how we make sense of this, and I clearly so you.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
And like performance wise and just part of the storytelling,
I'm on board with it. It was fun. It was.
I'm just so I'm not disparaging the story of it.
I enjoyed that part of it, but I just found
myself going, I have so many questions that I hope
we get answers to, like where has he been living
for the last two years since Clay left? And where
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are those people?
Speaker 6 (25:16):
Now?
Speaker 5 (25:16):
You know what I mean? It just yes, because also
it's like, why is this doctor here? Okay, I can
buy that as doctor maybe it took a trip to
come to Tree Hill to help his former patient. But
then it's like, so that did the kid as well?
You know, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Yeah, well, and that's what leads me down that sort
of rabbit hole of did you perhaps wind up in
treatment here while you were visiting Nathan back in the
day and then go home? Like is is that how
(25:52):
perhaps this has happened? I just it is all very confusing.
That's suddenly the therapist and the kid and the big
secret is here in the small town you know.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
Yeah, I don't know. Maybe we'll get some more information,
I hope.
Speaker 6 (26:06):
So.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
I loved how it ended with Clay being back at
the house and Quinn showing up and and he's like
I had my breakthrough and she's like, Okay, well listen,
you can tell me anything and it's not going to
change anything at all. And it just Clay kind of
has that oh boy look on his face. So I'm
excited to see how that goes over next episode.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
Yeah, do you remember it all?
Speaker 5 (26:41):
Not a thing?
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Oh my god, I don't either.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
It's killing The next thing I remember about the Clay,
Quinn and Logan storyline is actually just the endgame. So yeah,
I got a couple episodes of a ride. I have
no recollection of.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Yeah, I've got an outcome for you guys burned into
my memory from this season. But it's because I directed
the episode and it's one of my favorite scenes ever,
and so there there's something coming that I remember in
such a visceral way, but I don't remember how we
get there.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
Okay, all right, I'm excited. I didn't realize you had
directed one of these last ones coming up? Nice. Which
episode is it? Do you remember the number?
Speaker 3 (27:26):
I don't, okay, but it involves our very cool prop
from the superhero world.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
Oh then, yes, I remember your episode, and that's that
is all I basically okay, great, yeah, okay, yeah, it's
enough talking on a subject that probably everyone listening already
knows what it's like.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
You guys are so lame, we know what's coming.
Speaker 5 (27:46):
I know that was so cool though, all right, but
here's what's not cool. Xavior, What the hell man?
Speaker 4 (27:53):
How is this allowed?
Speaker 5 (27:55):
Like?
Speaker 3 (27:55):
How is he allowed within one hundred feet of her
let alone in her place of work?
Speaker 5 (28:01):
I had the same thing. I mean, first of all,
this guy needs a hobby and a life, because come on,
you can't spend all day every day eating cherry pie. Also,
who sits down and needs three pieces of cherry pie
in a row? Only a lunatic, Only a psychopath, only
a psycopa. That should be enough reason. Straight to jail,
Straight to jail.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Sure, you have to go. It's just so unsettling. And
he's such a wonderful actor, you know, he he leans in,
he does this thing where he almost puts something sweet
or he plays sweet over really monstrous thoughts. Yea, so
(28:43):
it feels saccerin. It feels like really creepy and sticky.
And oh, he just makes me so uncomfortable. And what
is skill, you know, to be a nice person who
just can embody something wild? But I appreciated the misdirect,
you know, putting up the sign the best Bosses ever
(29:07):
moment is clearly also like a little dig about the
cafe across the street, which I think is a nice runner.
And interestingly, the I thought it made this surprise of
Xavier hit harder going from the help wanted sign down
to the Nathan is missing sign. Yeah, because you're having
this experience in this tight knit friend group in this
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small town community, and then it's the boogeyman. And it
really was effective the way Greg shot that.
Speaker 5 (29:38):
And Okay, so I get it. You and I both
love dogs. We had lots of dogs, We love them immensely.
We get it. However, would you ever, if your dog
was missing put up a missing dog poster over a
missing person poster?
Speaker 1 (29:59):
No?
Speaker 5 (30:00):
Did you catch that moment when Haley's walking down the
street crying and she sees that they're one of Nathan's
posters has been covered up with a missing dog poster?
Speaker 4 (30:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (30:13):
I don't know, guys, I don't think you can do that.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
I don't think you can no.
Speaker 5 (30:20):
Go lower, go higher, But you can't do that. There's
just a hierarchy.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
I know.
Speaker 5 (30:25):
Listen, I love a dog as much as the next person. Yeah, ah,
they don't supersede a missing human. So when that moment happened,
I was like, ooh, I'd almost be writing down that
number just to be like, hey, didn't find your dog,
but I found some decency you left behind boom roasted.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
But Xavier. Here's why I like it though, because yes,
he's great. I believe that he's dangerous. I'm curious not
what's going to happen. But it also gives us the
opportunity to see Julian be a hunky hero. And he
storms in and he said, no one threatens my wife
or eats three slices of cherry pie and one sitting
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get out.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
It's really nice the way he yanks Xavier out. I
was like, okay, okay, Austin, you go.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
And he's still a little roughed up from when he
got bet up to he looks kind of cool. Is
a scab. I'm like, ooh, yeah, it totally.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
It gives him a little ooph mm hmmm. And there
is there's almost this sort of cloud of you know,
there's a there's a little cloud of darkness over Julian
that wasn't there before.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
And it it works really well. For this stuff.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
It's like, this is a man who's been through some
shit and he is not to be messed with, and
it's really nice.
Speaker 5 (31:50):
Yeah, it was great. I thought all of that was great,
speaking of a man not to be messed with, Sweet
sweet Chase. The storyline's great, it really is. So when
Chris Keller comes into I think it's at Chase's place,
He's like, hey, let's have a beer, and Chase is saying,
like Officer pinal code, do do do do do? And
(32:12):
I thought he was talking about drinking a beer and
I'm like, oh, my freaking dork, just drink a beer.
You're not in the cockpit right now. And then but
it was for like battery, he was already thinking, like
he was kind of already having a plan of like
I think this is going to go the way I
think it is. I think it's going to go sideways,
and I need to know what I'm in store for.
(32:34):
And I liked watching him calculate, like can I live
with the consequences of what I think I'm going to do?
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Yes, Like what will it mean for me for the
rest of my life if I defend this kid in
the way that I want to Yeah, it's cool.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
Also, I'm pretty sure if you beat someone with a
tire iron, yeah, you're doing long term, if not forever damage.
And because we see through the silhouette of the front window,
you see how high he is raising the crowbar and
bringing it down, and you're like, I hope you were
(33:13):
hitting the legs right, But he's covered in blood in
the in the police card, it's like, were you going.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
For I'll break your kneecaps like a little mafia retribution?
What was really happening in there? Because to your point,
what it looks like, and this is something that bugs
me a bit about film and TV is sometimes I
feel like the stunt coordination really takes it to a
ten when it only needs to be a six. It's like, well,
(33:42):
what we saw in silhouette looked like an attempted murder. Yeah,
not really, like I'm going to rough someone up. So
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
But it's also.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
You know, it's it's heroic, it's personal, it's all the things.
And so obviously we're rooting for him, and I'm like,
are you gonna go to jail forever?
Speaker 5 (34:06):
I don't know, man, And and again this is the
hindsight of being like a Monday morning quarterback. But you're like,
I want to save this kid from this traumatizing experience
by watching making him watch another traumatizing experience. You know,
he's essentially watching the silhouette of his dad getting beat
to death with a tire iron and then Clay walking
(34:27):
out with blood spattered all over his face. Excuse me,
Chase walking out with blood spattered over his face. It was
just one of like, again, I completely get it. It
was a hero moment Chase came running out of the house. Yeah,
but it was also like, oh, it almost would have
been better if you had just like taken him somewhere
else and then came back and nearly killed his father.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
Yeah. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (34:50):
Maybe Chase just didn't want to go to the Air Force,
and he was like, I don't want to be called
a quitter. I know, I know I'll beat a scumbag yeah,
within an inch of his life.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
Yeah, I'll be a hero and also get discharged.
Speaker 5 (35:04):
Mm hmm. It's a bold move, though, the tir n't.
He didn't even want to go fisticuffs, huh. He was
just like, I don't know if I can beat this
guy one on one so I'm going to bring him
a murdering tool in with me.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
I mean, he's truck's dad's a big dude, but he's
a built guy.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
And yeah, I guess if you're not trying to have
an even fight.
Speaker 4 (35:29):
You know, he's saying, if you do this, like.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
I'll make you regret it.
Speaker 5 (35:34):
M hm.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
And so I understand the the escalation, but yeah, I'm
very curious about what that looks like for him.
Speaker 5 (35:43):
Yeah, you know, and maybe Chase just didn't want to
hurt his hands. Maybe he just gotten a manny you know.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
You know, well you need you need your you need.
Speaker 5 (35:51):
Your hands to this is true to fly the airplane. Yeah, okay,
well you know, I listen, I didn't mind it because
that guy's a scumbag. So I was. I was all
for the ride. I just you know, as you watch,
you also have that rational part of your brain being
like lou Dog that's attempted murder, like you're going to prison,
You're not just like you like at the good Guy
discount and you get a slap on the wrist.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
Exactly.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
We've all watched enough Law and Order and enough true
crime to be like, oh, I have a hunch, I
know what that charge is going to look like, and
it's not going to be good for you.
Speaker 5 (36:19):
No, no, it's not.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
It's not.
Speaker 5 (36:23):
What we needed Chase to do was finish beating on
Chuck's dad and then just pop right over to Karen's
cafe and give Xavier a little tune up.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
Yes, that would have been great, just.
Speaker 5 (36:35):
Like why you're on this heater, go ahead and take
care of that guy too.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Yeah, I just I just can't get over. And look,
it's a great device. It makes Brook feel very unsettled.
It makes Julian feel very protective. Obviously, there's now as
you know, as they have me mention when I come
into the house and Julian's with the kids, and I'm like,
he came to the cafe, you know. I like that
(36:59):
in the dialogue, I get to talk about the fact
that we have these two defenseless babies. Now it isn't
just us. Everything feels heavier.
Speaker 5 (37:09):
But I just.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
I'm confused about why the first call isn't immediately to
the police. You know, he's violating you to be harassing
someone that you went to jail for assaulting when you
also kidnapped a minor like that must be a violation
of your parole to be come into this lady's office.
Speaker 5 (37:33):
Absolutely the reason it didn't make sense to me, But actually, weirdly,
that's why it worked for me, because to me, that
is not someone who's thinking rationally. You don't show up
to the place of work of the person who just
vocally said, vocally, you know, advocated for you staying in prison.
(37:54):
So to me, it kind of added to the threat
and the menace because this guy clearly doesn't give enough
shits ye to be safe.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Yeah, he's he's obviously unhinged because he's not acting in
the best interests of his own future, forget even for her.
Speaker 5 (38:14):
Yeah, you know it.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
We clearly he hasn't grown enough to regret or have
remorse for what he did to her. But he's he's
literally jeopardizing his own freedom. Yeah, by his behavior.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
Yeah, it's scary.
Speaker 5 (38:30):
I liked seeing David pop back up into town speaking
of welcome faces and not speaking of WelCom faces. David
was a cool surprise, and that scene with Quinn and
David at Clay's pool was great.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
Yeah, I really liked it.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
I liked that he was self deprecating. You know the
fact that the writers had David make fun of himself.
Speaker 5 (38:50):
Yeah, finally dating outside the Quinn the James Jamers.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Sisters like, it's great because it gives you. It gives
you a way to share in a laugh. And his
being self deprecating immediately, at least for me as an
audience member, undid some of the ick I felt about him.
I was like, oh, look, everybody's growing cool.
Speaker 5 (39:16):
Yeah. It was good self awareness. Yeah, and I liked
that we had people sort of not under not having
all the information, like the way Antoine didn't, or the
way Skills didn't and the way that Quinn didn't. And
then there's that scene with all of them in the
cafe where they all are having aha moments at the
same time, Yes, where.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
It dawns on everyone and the camera pings around and
you're just on the ride as a viewer.
Speaker 5 (39:43):
And for those viewers that don't know, Scott Holroyd who
plays David is Alison mun who plays Miss Lauren's real
life husband. Yes, and she was pregnant in real life
with their actual baby. So it was a fun little
meta joke that it was great for us to. We
all liked Scott and he kind of came in out
so fast as David initially, so it's great to have
(40:04):
him back, and it's always great to have Alison back.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
Yeah, it's so much fun, and it's one of those
cool things that you get to do. You know, when
you hear people talk about the way shows become a family,
this is one of the things you get to do
with your family. Like, you know, when someone's actual baby
is in the show, like one of my boys was
Clark's son. When you know you're panning across a bar
(40:28):
scene and like your DP or your makeup artist.
Speaker 4 (40:31):
Is in the shot.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
You know, Jonie, our hairdresser, being the woman who gave
Quinn the panther tan. Like, it's so fun when you
get to just have a little moment for the fam
where everyone who makes the show is in on it.
And this felt like one of those really cool things
because Alison and Scott are such great actors, and you know,
(40:53):
we were all so excited about this.
Speaker 4 (40:54):
Baby and the.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
Miss Lauren and David winding up together was just like
a little wink wink with our friends and it was
really cool.
Speaker 5 (41:06):
Yes, kicks, you got any honorable mentions?
Speaker 4 (41:21):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
Honestly, I enjoyed the episode so much, and I thought
all the performances were so wonderful. The obvious honorable mention
clearly is Joy. My less obvious honorable mentions. Greg pranch
As our director Ooh for our Friends at Home. Greg
was our supervising executive producer. I believe he directed more
(41:46):
episodes of our show than any other director. He came
to us from running Dawson's Creek. Like talk about a
guy who who was just part of such iconic coming
of a stories. And he was always one of my
favorite people to learn from on our set technically and creatively.
(42:09):
And there are just all these choices that he made
in this episode that and I think I said this earlier,
that really feel like the best of what One Tree
Hill was, like all its most wonderful moments. This episode
gave me that kind of nostalgia, and I just thought
(42:30):
he made brilliant choices Allah the voiceover and the slow
motion and the soundless sequences for Haley like it just
it added something that was so profound and that I
think is really the magic of directing and producing. And
I think he really deserves his flowers.
Speaker 6 (42:52):
For that one.
Speaker 5 (42:53):
Yeah, I second all three, both of those, and I
would add Johnny Richardson to the list because this episode
was just really well executed, kind of on all the levels.
It was written well, it was shot well. I thought
it was performed very well. This was a really fun
episode and on behalf of Joy. Thank you for all
(43:14):
of the praise. It's just so nice to be acknowledged
and appreciated by my peers. I respect so much. Yeah,
she was great, she was awesome, fantastic. Oh look at
this listener question. It's almost like Tara knew it was
just going to be the two of us today. She asked,
what snack would you pick to be magically calorie free forever?
(43:37):
Oh my gosh, Tarah, what a good question I've never
thought of.
Speaker 3 (43:42):
Wow, Oh this is hard. Okay, So my initial like
the thing my brain said before I realized it was
saying something, was well, we would probably both say corn dogs.
Caveat a corn dog is not a thing that I
can ease access all the time, Like I don't have
(44:02):
a deep fryer at my house. So I thought yes,
and then I thought, but then I don't get to
eat them as often as i'd like. So truly, the
thing that I make the most at all times of
day and night. And also I know it's like a
bad thing to, you know, eat copious amounts of snacks
at two am, but sometimes I do it. I'm a
(44:22):
popcorn girl. It's my favorite thing. I like to I
like to fresh pop it like, yeah, I'll do it
in the microwave bag, but I'd rather do it on the.
Speaker 4 (44:31):
Stove, like in a pot.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
The idea that I could just at any time of
day or night eat as many bags of popcorn as
I wanted and it would be like water would be
very cool for me.
Speaker 5 (44:46):
I hear that, and I feel like you sold yourself short.
Why because it's not a very colerically dense food you
can get Like I just feel like, yeah, because you
can get like reduced calorie popcorn, you know, or as
I feel like I don't, you should have good. Good
for you for loving yourself. But like to me, I'm
gonna tell you, I actually I corn dog went into
(45:07):
my brain, but it wasn't the forefront because it's a
special food. It's not really a snack. It's a treat food.
It's an occasion food. Yeah, mine was donuts. If I
could just wake up and I could slam like three
donuts and it's a freebie. I would be Could you
imagine you get to have a little donut on the
go with you in the car, a little bear claw
(45:29):
before bet? Like, what what are we doing? That would
be incredible.
Speaker 3 (45:33):
See I'm not really a sweet person.
Speaker 5 (45:36):
Ah okay, I will have.
Speaker 3 (45:37):
A bite of a donut and then I'm over it.
I would rather have a second steak for dessert than
a dessert.
Speaker 5 (45:43):
I feel that.
Speaker 3 (45:44):
But like if if bread, if bread could be my water,
all I'd be in because I want it all the time.
Like I'll bake bread, I'll get fresh bread, I go
to the farmer's market for bread. If I could eat
half a sour dough loaf in morning and the other
half before bed and have it not count toward my
(46:06):
you know daily? Am I healthy or not great? And
here's the thing, it's not that I don't eat the bread.
It's just that I don't. I don't gorge myself on
bread the way I want.
Speaker 5 (46:18):
To sure, the way your body cries out for you
to decimate an entire loaf.
Speaker 6 (46:22):
You know what?
Speaker 5 (46:22):
Another word one would be chips.
Speaker 3 (46:25):
Yeah, like those tower seven chips. Get out of town,
Get out of town.
Speaker 5 (46:29):
I could just sit in a bag of chips, end
up burning more calories than I'm taking in just by
eating it. Yeah, forget about it.
Speaker 4 (46:37):
Tarah a great question, good one.
Speaker 5 (46:39):
Tara with a hard hitting question. Yead, we didn't talk
about food this once this entire episode, so you know
what to all the people say, all I do is
talk about food. False, We didn't today. Tara made us
at the very end of the episode.
Speaker 4 (46:51):
You are you are vindicated and correct.
Speaker 5 (46:54):
Let's spin a wheel.
Speaker 4 (46:55):
I was just going to say. It took the words
right out of my mouth.
Speaker 5 (46:59):
We're becoming the same person.
Speaker 4 (47:01):
Yeah, we knew about that.
Speaker 5 (47:04):
Oh, most likely to adopt a pet on a whim,
Sophia Bush done.
Speaker 7 (47:12):
Yeah, it's you.
Speaker 3 (47:13):
Yeah, it's always been me. It's always been me, Like
to the point that I've tried many years ago, when
I was living in Chicago, I was fostering dogs and
I fostered one and then I started to foster another one,
and then I was like, I think I'm supposed to
keep this dog, and like turned out this dog that
I long term fostered is my new phrase for it
(47:36):
and my dog Penny. They hated each other, Sweet Penny
and Penny's never hated anyone, and Penny and this dog
were just like they hated each other. And I tried
for months. I took them to like a behavioral specialist,
even on the recommendation of a friend of mine. I'm
so ashamed to admit this. I even took them to
(47:57):
see a dog psychic to figure out why they hated
each other. I was like, I'll do anything, and they
were just like truly incompatible animals. And now this long
term foster of mine lives with my dear friend Amanda
and her family, and Amanda was like, you just rescued
my dog for me that I wasn't sure I was
ready for. And then I loved her and she had
to be mine. And so it's this crazy thing where like,
(48:20):
even though sometimes I know I should not do this,
I'm like, there's going to be a reason, there's going
to be a purpose. Even if I'm like a long
term stay for an animal, I'm always open to it.
Speaker 5 (48:33):
You're one of the good ones so far, and then.
Speaker 3 (48:35):
Sometimes you know, like Patch fourteen years later.
Speaker 4 (48:41):
They're just the best, they're the best.
Speaker 3 (48:43):
The problem though, for me, to bring it back to
our friend Martha Stewart, is I I'm not Martha, like
I don't live on a farm full time with like
and you travel purple, and I try well and I work.
And if I had my drothers, like you know when
people say if I won the lottery, I wouldn't say anything,
(49:06):
but there would be signs, like suddenly there would be
barns and horses and lamas and goats and.
Speaker 5 (49:15):
Dogs and like it would be Sophia's Arc. Yes, people
would be.
Speaker 3 (49:18):
Like, wow, you suddenly have so many animals, and I'd
be like, I know, everything's just coming up roses for me.
Speaker 5 (49:26):
All right, I gotta pete tell them what next episode is? Bye?
Speaker 3 (49:28):
Everyone, Oh friends, this is what happens when only two
of us are here. Next episode is Season nine, Episode nine.
Every breath is a bomb. Doesn't sound good, doesn't sound good,
but I hope it's great. We appreciate you all.
Speaker 4 (49:46):
See you next week.
Speaker 3 (49:47):
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