Episode 387 w/ M.O.P.

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Speaker 1 (00:11):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
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Speaker 1 (00:17):
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Speaker 3 (00:26):
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Speaker 4 (00:48):
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Speaker 1 (00:51):
All of that make some right now.

Speaker 4 (00:56):
Where you talk about legends, we talk about two man group.
We talk about some of the best back and forth lyricists,
paint pictures, real artists.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
Real hard core shit.

Speaker 4 (01:09):
You cannot listen to the music sitting down. You gotta
saying your ass up and get hype. This is one
of the best groups of all times. Health influence mar
Deep who mar Deep? He influenced us so in a
lot of ways. It wasn't for them.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
This show or this person might not even be here.
They are the impeccables. They are. I love love to
see them in verses.

Speaker 4 (01:38):
But in case you don't know who the fuck we're
talking about, were talking about the one the only. Let
just let's just leg just man, I ain't gonna lie
to you. I was going through your discography, yo, y'all
got some music, man.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
Yo, man, Like it's like real art, Like like I
remember me.

Speaker 4 (02:03):
Hearing it and not going to Brownsville at that time,
and me just like I'm knowing that y'all painted like
I felt like I was that Sarah Toolda.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
That's you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
Like, So, how did y'all come up with that?

Speaker 1 (02:18):
All that music?

Speaker 5 (02:22):
It's all organic b Like we don't even for shows
anything we do, Like, there's no rehearsing.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
The way y'all go back and forth.

Speaker 6 (02:31):
It's just it's just feeling, just feeling.

Speaker 5 (02:35):
So you know, I thought about this on the flight
here and in my room and everything, and you know,
people ask the question like how did y'all come up
with it? And it's different with us than other rap groups,
right because we're not really a group, right, that's the
big difference because we go back so far that we

(02:56):
don't even know how we met, where we met, when
we met.

Speaker 4 (02:59):
That was my next question.

Speaker 5 (03:01):
I knew, I.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
Remember that on stage, we we got fucking sign language.
We could just look at each other, like, catch me, nigga,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (03:12):
Foster told me about swim Star. He said, swim Star
do that, and.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
I always, yeah, you just look at the nigga, you know.

Speaker 5 (03:20):
What I mean. You know, catch me, catch me right,

Speaker 4 (03:23):
But now you did the BT Awards with Steve Rifkin.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
Yeah, how was that?

Speaker 3 (03:27):
Experience? Was amazing? I mean, shout out to Steve Rifkins
to shout out Steve.

Speaker 4 (03:33):
Signed Aloud, right, yeah, Steve Rifkin signed a Loud Yeah okay,
so how how how was that? I'm dealing with Steve
y'all signed autang was there?

Speaker 7 (03:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (03:46):
That was legendary.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
Yeah, a lot of great groups, the man, it was
just good. It was like being home Loud Records because
you have so many amazing artists doing our condo music,
you know what I mean, nigga music.

Speaker 5 (03:59):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
You're comfortable in that environment, right.

Speaker 5 (04:03):
That was that, uh, that friendly competition era that we
were in right. So if you're on the label, you
got Old Tang, you got Nahs, you got I mean,
excuse me, Mob Deep, you got all these amazing fucking
artists on everybody right, Yo, everybody over. Everybody's over there.
It's that that friendly competition that that we was having.

(04:23):
Like you know, you hear a fucking Mob Deep album
or Mob Deep record, You're like, we're all in the
same place.

Speaker 6 (04:30):
So it's like kept everybody on the keep keep you.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
On your toes. Plus you fans like I'm a fan
of all of them allists. He's just everybody on a
Loud Records I was a fan of.

Speaker 5 (04:39):
You know, I'm a music nerd.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
But yeah, I watched the documentary on You and you
was naming mass.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Like different music. He's like, Yo, people think make hard music.
Listen to you. I was like, wow, that's different, you.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
Know what I mean? So that that keeps you on
your feet, keep you going and ship.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
What's something that you listen to that.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
I listened to reggae music, dance hall because you turned
it down, you know, Okay.

Speaker 5 (05:02):
Calypso listen to Soaka like a motherfucker. I used to
want to get up through tour bus Nigga, that's nigga
bam like a motherfucker, all of that, all of that ship.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
Sometimes you got to get away from from the hip
hop ship. Even when I'm listening to us like I'm working,
I don't feel like working, you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (05:27):
You gotta change.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
Because you're too close to you gotta back.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
And like, you know, too much hip hop is like
your fucking brain need a fucking break, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
So I put them from.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
Reggae and vibe out, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (05:38):
I put on old school reggae, like like you can
play that music loud anywhere.

Speaker 8 (05:43):
Yeah, you feel nobody. I can't go wrong with nineties
dance at South So too. I'm sorry, I look at that.

Speaker 5 (05:55):
I don't know what you talk about like sound like
I know, let's take it from the begetting how about
some hardcoref Look that's.

Speaker 4 (06:03):
Back then, yo, that's Joe Because it says on the
back of it it says ninety three.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
But what did we google and it said ninety two? No,
it's well, it's said ninety four. The album came out.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
Here, that came out ninety four, okay, but the single
came out ninety ninety three.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
Was this the first single? Was it something?

Speaker 6 (06:25):
Before this first single?

Speaker 3 (06:27):
I had a joint call the Hell That's Real, It's about.

Speaker 5 (06:30):
My neighborhood, okay.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
Project. Yeah, that was a shout out to Silver D
shout the lazy Ladies lay.

Speaker 9 (06:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
It was really a compilation right well, he happened to
put me on the compilation and ship. I had like
three joints on it, okay. And one of the joints
I made was called it Hill That's real.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
Hell, that's real, And that's my neighborhood. And that's in
ninety two.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
That's ninety two, yeahy two sixteen, Okay, So how do
you get to how about some hard core d all period.

Speaker 5 (06:55):
Is from my neighborhood.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
That nigga. It's like a block away. You can hit
through the vacant lot. You can hear sucking mute bumping
through the lock.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (07:04):
That his crib.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
Yeah, we made out his crib in the not in
the ville, okay? Was it was?

Speaker 5 (07:08):
It had a cross yeah, no, more like best style,
but right across folkkm.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
Yeah. But he used to live right right across the
street from me.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
Wow, so he just was.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
I used to go to this crib and ship. Actually
it was him and the sister rhyming on the beach,
just bugging out. Yeah it was.

Speaker 5 (07:28):
Queen right, Queen, Yeah yeah, I heard the beat.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
I'm like, that's that motherfucker bring it? You know when
we on that joint, Billy Billy came up with this ship.
He started he started rhyming this ship all right, rhyn
was how about some mall core? Yeah, we like in
r the street. I'm like, Yo, that's the hook, right,
you know.

Speaker 5 (07:46):
What I mean?

Speaker 3 (07:48):
Right?

Speaker 1 (07:48):
That was that was the first line in your verse?

Speaker 4 (07:50):
Yeah, yeah, wow, he said that's the hook.

Speaker 7 (07:53):
Right there is Actually, like you said, you guys weren't
I can't remember when.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
You started the group.

Speaker 7 (07:57):
So it's like y'all just started rhyming on the record
and we wasn't.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
Really it was a crew a crew m P before
we was wrapping it like that, you know what I mean?
We just represented through music.

Speaker 5 (08:09):
Yeah yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (08:15):
So and then let's let's take it to that video.
How about some hardcore? Where was that video?

Speaker 5 (08:19):
App? And on the hell on the block building and
a half fast banded building and ship?

Speaker 1 (08:29):
But you remember who filmed the video?

Speaker 5 (08:31):
Hype really yea over that car.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
Come on. That was a good grimy video, Like those
were the best videos. Man ain't gonna lie. I would
never think Hype did that video that.

Speaker 5 (08:47):
That was one of Hype's first videos. Get the first videos. Wow,
paid a small bag of money to get it done.
We can say, really a small bag of money in
comparison to what we had started doing videos and ship.
But you see the video, it's it's you know, you

(09:07):
got the black and white, you got color, which was
common at the time.

Speaker 6 (09:10):
But the whole video was black and white.

Speaker 5 (09:12):
When it was done, and we ran into Hype on
Bleaker Street, it's like, yo, dude, you know we need
you to kind of do make some adjustments. Head and
Ship took on back down to the veil, called the
camera crew out and we got the color shots.

Speaker 6 (09:25):
Now, I mean it was we had a dope time.

Speaker 5 (09:29):
It was the first time we yeah, the first time
we ever did anything like this, anything anything up do.
We stayed up all night. We stayed up all night.
It's like, what the fuck are we about to do?
This is something different?

Speaker 1 (09:42):
And height was it Hollywood was did he feel out
of place being in Brooklyn?

Speaker 5 (09:46):
I don't know if you felt ause right now, right right,
it was real Brooklyn. He yeah, I mean, he held
up pretty good.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
And he was saying he was saying, he was yeah.

Speaker 4 (09:59):
And the bill is like one of at that time too,
like that was probably one of the worst wildest places
in America.

Speaker 5 (10:05):
Yeah, ridiculous, ridiculous when when when I think back about
this ship, it's like, how the fuck do we make
it through that ship?

Speaker 3 (10:12):
Right?

Speaker 5 (10:12):
You know what I mean? And you know, I mean
everybody's I mean, you got these neighborhoods everywhere, you know
what I mean, And and everybody that live in these neighborhoods.
Everybody's not tough, everybody's not killers, everybody's not stupid, but
it's a lot of people who are.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
And that's the.

Speaker 5 (10:27):
Ship that you got to face when you come outside
every day, you know what I mean. You got to
figure out how to navigate through that ship, which it
was hell, but you know we pulled it off.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
You know, you think gentrification is good.

Speaker 5 (10:37):
Or bad like this something about that.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
I think it's bad in a way where you got like, say,
for instance, you have like Latino neighbor you know that's
Latino community, Like they separate them and they moved their
stores and stuff like that, you know what I.

Speaker 7 (10:53):
Mean, places everybody, Yeah yeah, and it changes the fabric
of that neighborhood. If they would invest in those people,
yeah right right, that would be different. Like I went
to this neighborhood in Columbia called and it's the hood.
It's like where they had all the crazy gangs and
gang wars and hip hop. Transformed it and the government
put money into it. And they just put escalators because

(11:14):
the higher you go in the mountain, the crazier it gets, right,
So they put escalators to give them access to the
ground level. And then they told all the graffitos do
murals everywhere, and the whole neighborhood's changed.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
They invested in the neighbors. It's the same people that
I much the.

Speaker 5 (11:26):
Way it was.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
Man. You know, you want some motherfucking jerk chicken or something,
you go to flatworsh right, you know, I mean you
can still go now, you know where to goes. You
know exactly where the coat you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
You got your favorite rote spot.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
Yeah, you got your roo right right right right.

Speaker 5 (11:41):
I think the gentrification, the only thing I dislike about
it is pushing our people out. You know what I'm
saying because when they gentifyed the ship, they boost up
all the prices, and unfortunately, most of our people can't
afford these prices, so they got to be you know,
displaced and put somewhere else.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
On the other hand, it's good for the kids though.
We threw for yeah, throwing rocks, having rock, taking lots.

Speaker 5 (12:08):
And shipping the band of building the buildings like that.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
These niggas got parks and all this beautiful ship that
you didn't have.

Speaker 5 (12:14):
You didn't know.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
These kids don't got winging.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
We didn't have.

Speaker 4 (12:16):
No, that was a dirt bomb.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
So we got we got them ready, We got ready.
Our show was about giving people flowers.

Speaker 4 (12:33):
Man. We wanted to give you your flowers face to
face man, the man, tell y'all, how.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Great y'all come, long overdue.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
From the beginning, we tried to.

Speaker 4 (12:50):
Get y'all year one. So you know what, the show
got bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger than the platform.
So maybe guard waited for this very moment, so you
know what I mean. So yea, yeah, go ahead, you
got that. So we wanted to, you know, tell y'all man,
how dope y'all.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
This morning?

Speaker 4 (13:08):
Because I said, I'm drinking. We're gonna go hard so Google,
but I'm going through. Yeah, the photography. I've noticed that
you had a lot of records with Google. What was
the relationship with Google and Gang Star.

Speaker 5 (13:23):
I mean it happened again, happened organically. There were fans
of m O P that record right there. Premiere tells
the story how he was seeing the stickers of the
posters or seeing the album and seeing the knife going
through this. How he tells, I've seen the knife stuck
in the in the in the album that was so hot,
so fire. And one day me and my man Boo

(13:44):
Bang God bless him, we were on a train.

Speaker 6 (13:47):
This record was out already.

Speaker 5 (13:48):
We're on the train and we're looking down the car
and we see who looks like ja rue the damage.
I'm looking at him. He looking He almost like what
what kind of ship?

Speaker 3 (13:59):
Right? I'm like, yo, I think that's the nigga.

Speaker 5 (14:02):
So men, Boo go down there. We introduced our stuff,
be like oh ship yo, We're like yo. Premier loved
y'all and it kind of started right there. All right, cool,
We got a link and we you know, Premier had
the radio show at the time. We went up there
to do the radio show and then the first time
we got in the studio was to do a remix
to how by some hardcore, which turned into the first
Downtown Swinger.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
Yeah, yeah, years old.

Speaker 7 (14:27):
Yeah, it was such a natural fit his production.

Speaker 5 (14:31):
With you guys like yeah Primo, Yeah, that bounced that
drum ship that he locked the door.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
Nobody can't go on that motherfucker.

Speaker 5 (14:39):
But the artist back in the days.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
D D was the ship a broom here, knocking room
over there, and knocking room over the Niggasus ship, niggasiroom.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (14:53):
Like I remember I had a session with Premier and
d n D. He he destroyed like six of them
craziest beats in front of my face.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
I was so bad.

Speaker 4 (15:03):
He kept going, He'll make the beat and the like
it's not right, and then they race it and I'm
looking at him like I just want a whole What
do you mean? That's all that joint invisible, that's that's
the second fen And he wouldn't remember back then there
was no sinning and no records, so we have to
go there physically, go there, and you had dn D.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
He want you to.

Speaker 4 (15:26):
Watch this analog to me because like a digital record
is cool.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
But when we're in the same.

Speaker 4 (15:32):
Room together, you you we drinking handy you you know
what I'm saying, like we were smoking and vibing. You
know what I'm saying. You can smell my cologne, I
can smell your you know what I mean. If we're
getting that fucking studio together.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
Nowadays, they do they do their hook, they fly hook. Yeah,
back in the day, we had to say every fucking hook.
We had to say every hook.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
We had the two inch.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Flat back didn't want you to punch in the waste
of the tape to you start in the table.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
Yeah, it was hard to punch him back then. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
Hell yeah. If you had one producer, if you had
to make one beat, one last song, who will produced
that record?

Speaker 5 (16:15):
You're on your own right there. You can't say, though,
because there's so many dope producers, especially from our era.
Even the newcasts is dope too. It's just so many
of them motherfuckers. But yeah, yeah, I can't say.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
I can't say I think that was smart. Yeah, right,
I think that.

Speaker 5 (16:36):
How did I say premiere without saying they'll period, without
saying yeah too many?

Speaker 3 (16:41):
Without saying just how many things I'm saying too many things,
too many don't produce you know what I mean? Right?

Speaker 1 (16:48):
So you know going through ya the socrophy.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (16:53):
I also noticed you guys got two records with jay
Z more than that, about three or four, three or
four and did y'all make was in the studio together?

Speaker 3 (17:01):
We did yeah four long four long Blade did yeah.

Speaker 5 (17:05):
Yeah, yeah, yea yeah four a long which was produced
by Lazy Las.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
He got his glass in air?

Speaker 4 (17:11):
Where's we got you?

Speaker 3 (17:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (17:22):
About four, about three or four records with Jay four
long Blade.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
Four loong Blade. You don't know, you don't know. Well
we started, you don't know. I was there when he
finished it. It was put in the air, put.

Speaker 5 (17:34):
It in the area in the air, rock Live familiar,
Yeah yeah, maybe another one or too.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
You don't know.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
You don't know what's in the in the soundtrack.

Speaker 5 (17:43):
Right, you don't know?

Speaker 3 (17:44):
That was on the album?

Speaker 1 (17:46):
Which one was on his on the that was on
Blueprint too. But wasn't it the soundtrack to his joint.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
O sheets was watching that was all joint up?

Speaker 6 (17:55):
Okay, okay, but that wasn't You don't.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
Know, no, no, I know, So I'm I'm bouncing around
a little.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
Go ahead, do it let's go.

Speaker 4 (18:05):
It's how many fucking movies is that ship in?

Speaker 3 (18:12):
I love?

Speaker 6 (18:13):
Yeah, thank god, the.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
Whitest, the whitest movies and video. I be wondering, like,
do they know what y'all saying?

Speaker 3 (18:23):
Probably not, probably not. You know, keep going, We're going.
That record is a gift that keep on giving, bro,
And just what I'm like, I'm record, I'm like, thank you.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
It doesn't it doesn't get on with the remix of
it to his creator.

Speaker 4 (18:38):
Yeah, yeah, And what was that originally? That was on
you for y'all album?

Speaker 1 (18:42):
Okay?

Speaker 5 (18:42):
Yeah, we was doing that album and stopped.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
To do.

Speaker 5 (18:50):
Handle your Business to ep handle your business, okay, to create.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
A little more a little more excitement and ship.

Speaker 5 (18:57):
But we had some issues with the label at the time,
like the motherfuckers wanted to like we ain't got no
more money for We had a lot of issues with labeled,
but that at that time they wanted to kind of
like maybe get rid of us and ship like them
pa worth having, Like fuck are you talking about? But
so we stopped the album and did handle your Business.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
That's the joint.

Speaker 5 (19:18):
When we had the tank in the middle of the
street and all of that ship put that out, you know.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
Was that still relativity?

Speaker 3 (19:25):
Was it was relativity any as was relative?

Speaker 5 (19:31):
Yeah, yeah, and we did We did that ourselves because
they tried to drop the group very much.

Speaker 4 (19:36):
So who do you think is more? What is more famous?
Any of the original or any of the remix?

Speaker 5 (19:42):
I think, well, this ship that's moving the most, right, that's.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
Already in the movies. The original in the movie is
the the rig.

Speaker 7 (19:51):
But I think it's hard the same beats yea yeah yeah,
but you hear it off rip. You don't need to
hear the whole song just to get.

Speaker 5 (19:59):
Into so like we needed extra energy right like we
actually need it, but we did go yeah, buster killed it.
Remy came in and bullied her away on the record.

Speaker 4 (20:11):
How does she get on the record?

Speaker 5 (20:12):
Bull say the ship right here? The first time I
have heard her saying she bullied away in the records.
I had no idea she was going to be on
the record. We can't. I came to the studio and
I can hear the run that run that, which is
from my original verse, but it's not my voice.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
As I'm walking into the studio, I can hear the ship.

Speaker 5 (20:35):
I'm going it don't sound like me when I walk
in the studio, it's blaring. She's sitting on the up
on the top of the couch and ship she's just
sitting there bobbing to us.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
Ship.

Speaker 5 (20:45):
I could play it back. Ship fire though, I'm like fire.
She bullied away on the record.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
You know what I'm saying. I'm I'm glad she bullied.

Speaker 4 (20:56):
Away on the rightfully the same thing to TV. But
ship okay, And then tell the people. Tell the people
what is Sarah toog?

Speaker 3 (21:07):
What is that?

Speaker 4 (21:07):
That's the block, the block.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
The street, the strip, the main strip. Yeah, run all
the way from say Broadway from Broadway all the way
down to yeah, both from through again both for the
same block.

Speaker 5 (21:25):
I'm telling you, we don't we don't remember where we
met and how we met. That's how long we've been
friends and ship right, So like there was times where
I could if I'm in my house, like he's in
my house, if I'm not there, you know what I mean,
I could walk in. I could walk in and be
fucking tired. And if he's sleeping like on that couch,
that little green couch my mama had over there, which

(21:45):
was my favorite spot, I couldn't wake him up. She
gets your go your ass back there somewhere, you know
what I mean. It's that kind of relationship kind of
your mom took care of me, bro. Yeah I mean yeah, yeah,
other ship, but she she was did for me, brother,
that's right.

Speaker 4 (22:01):
Yeah, you had a fight.

Speaker 6 (22:02):
No, no, not even a decent argument.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
Really is.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
All the time.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
That's on my nerves.

Speaker 5 (22:13):
It's him, right, So you weren't getting on my nerves
my entire life. If you didn't get on my nerves,
that ship would be out of the ordinary. You know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (22:22):
So do what you always know the nurse.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
It's the thing where you when you cherish your friendship,
you know, you don't say a certain thing. You don't
frust the lines, the line that you can't cross. That's right.
When you got good friends, you know what I mean,
You don't funk that up right, And that's what we do, man,
we you know what I mean, Keep for it like that.

Speaker 4 (22:39):
I'll make some noise for that guy. You hear that
home home snuffing in Japan. I had the body slamming.

(23:05):
Only one physical fight.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
Bom somebody else from the crew. Yeah, that's the easier.
Let's talk about field figures with Ray Kwan couji rat.
How did that that was?

Speaker 5 (23:17):
That was me?

Speaker 3 (23:18):
You know, I do my beat ship too. So I
was working with uh Bob Perry and E one Records
and ship like that doing production and they was working
on the wool chain project. So they brought me in
the cold, you know, to listen over some of the
ship and here and there I get a chance to
do my little thing. So I did the joint and
someone was missing on the record. So they're like, yo,

(23:38):
get you know, see if y'all y' y'all niggas want
to jump on it. So I started to joint. The
billy came and lady Ship, i'mnna be honest. I don't remember.

Speaker 5 (23:49):
This is just what happened. Even if you remember me
way back. Yes, I am the original drink chance. That's right,
animal your animals, soho back then all that half of
that ship I remember, drink Ship.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
Was in Germany.

Speaker 4 (24:07):
I don't know if you remember me, and you drink
for like twelve hours. See, like we didn't move the
ball like and unhealthy. I feel so bad because somebody
went somewhere and they came back and then went again
and came back and then went again. And we was
in the same exactly me and you.

Speaker 6 (24:25):
I remember that just with it.

Speaker 5 (24:26):
But you know, I'm glad that that we're finally here
because I wanted to say that.

Speaker 3 (24:31):
Right.

Speaker 6 (24:32):
So to the MOP soldiers.

Speaker 5 (24:33):
Out there that keep going your ymoping on Drink Championship
got some bullshit, bullshit.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
I gotta be honest.

Speaker 5 (24:41):
It was all me.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
Right, We've been trying.

Speaker 5 (24:44):
I've been dunking you niggas because.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
The last time we hung out you.

Speaker 5 (24:50):
Mentioned that's time like when we did stomped the ship
out there. Dude, we had our own bar in the
store here and you walked in with a bottle when
we drank whole fucking time. It's not gonna kill me.
I'm not going. And a getting to the MOP soldiers
out there that keep on the internet with this year

(25:12):
while we ain't there. We were invited to Drink champs
on yeah, year one when it first started. So so
you know, like I said, but let me.

Speaker 4 (25:28):
Tell you something pause, it was worth the rate. It's
worth the time. You know our show, that's what we
started about. It is giving people they flowers while they're alive,
you know what I mean. And you guys are one
of the best gooster all time. Man, like you, I'm
not saying that because I'm your friends, you know, because
I say that to the people that was worth it.
It's like, because I'm your friend, doesn't dumb down my fanness.

(25:50):
That's right, you know what I'm saying. So I just because,
like I said, it felt like ninety two to me
when I was listening to it. But what but I'm
like that ship just reminded me of that era, like
you had to be a rapper to come out back then,
like you had to have you had to.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
Make And I was just listening to it.

Speaker 4 (26:10):
I was just so amazed, and I was like, yo, man,
I'm so glad that y'all brothers came mancu man deserve
your Okay, do do quick? Thomas Slant.

Speaker 7 (26:25):
Yeah, you know you know what I think it's a
sleeper joint that that I always I love this record
is the joint with Heather.

Speaker 5 (26:32):
Be Oh my yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
We did two of them right yeah.

Speaker 7 (26:36):
And what blocks down I think is the other one
right now? That's that and then the other one with
you guys. I think that that joint is a class.
How did y'all connect with her?

Speaker 3 (26:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (26:47):
Shot the video force, Yeah, shot the video. He's actually
in the video too with the radio. Yeah, he's a
deal with the radio, sitting in the corner on the
train hundred years ago. Ye. Well, yeah, hell, it used
to be at D and D. You know, D and
D was with the Grounds, you know. She used to
be at D and D hanging out with Pream. We
got cool from there, and she was like, yeah, I

(27:09):
need y'all on the record, no problem, you know what
I'm saying. So, and she killed it. The second one
she body Body though, Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
She Yeah.

Speaker 5 (27:17):
First one was produced by the Beat minus uh mister Walker, No, no, no,
Kenny Parker, and the second one was produced by the
Beat miners did mister Walk?

Speaker 3 (27:27):
So he did the first one, yeah.

Speaker 7 (27:29):
Because it was dope because she was on the Reality
on the.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
Real World and MTV.

Speaker 7 (27:34):
I didn't even know that, yeah for that record, and
it came out around the same time.

Speaker 6 (27:37):
But once she on that Reality showed the into I think.

Speaker 7 (27:41):
I think I think she was around It was around
the same time, right, but you know, people watching it
probably didn't take her series of MC. But then those
records came out and you guys, out of here.

Speaker 3 (27:50):
She was dope. She was fire yeah, I'm still trying
to get her to get on the record.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
She's yeah, I'm sure she can still spit.

Speaker 6 (27:57):
Of course.

Speaker 4 (27:58):
Of course, of course as a record label, Ever came
to you and say, look, guys, hardcore, we doe it.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
Now it's time for commercial.

Speaker 5 (28:08):
Uh yeah, they tried. They even try to sit away
with yet cruise man.

Speaker 3 (28:21):
About it.

Speaker 4 (28:21):
Regulate weether said, yo, let's make a commercial record. Let's
go to Antigua and film the video.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
Not even a commercial record.

Speaker 5 (28:29):
They just try to get us to pull it down
a little bit, you know what I mean. It's like,
turn it down just a little bit. But what the
fuck did we say? I'm saying, we gotta we gotta
make records the way we.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
Know how to.

Speaker 6 (28:39):
You know, this is our reality, so we may records.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
I grew up in the house my mom, My mom
cursed that ship out you.

Speaker 5 (28:45):
Yeah, my mother, you are my mother, my mother.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
So I get that ship from you know what I mean?
I get that from her, bro you know what I mean? Energy?

Speaker 5 (29:00):
And then and then what else do you talk about
if you don't know anything else?

Speaker 3 (29:05):
Right?

Speaker 6 (29:05):
This is this is what we knew.

Speaker 3 (29:06):
Man with New Sundard, just get Bill good though, bro,
just to be you instead of trying to do it.
You can't. I can't do other ship. I can only
do what I know they do when I'm so good
at it, you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (29:16):
You're amazing, You're amazing.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
Come on, let's be up.

Speaker 5 (29:27):
This dude wrap his ass off man YouTube.

Speaker 4 (29:29):
Bro.

Speaker 5 (29:29):
It's funny though, because I never seen somebody so on
beat right, and here's the curve.

Speaker 6 (29:37):
Nigga can't even.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
Dance right, dance?

Speaker 5 (29:42):
How is he always on beat?

Speaker 2 (29:45):
This ship?

Speaker 6 (29:45):
Crazy?

Speaker 1 (29:46):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (29:46):
But that's that's what amazing is. You know what I'm saying.
Just take a voice. This nigga voice, he leads the
fucking soon as his voice. Come on, you know it's
on a nigga, you know what I mean. This nigga
voice is so fucking power. So many niggas try to
limit him. So many niggas try to mimic you.

Speaker 5 (30:01):
Bro, ain't this ain't this you niggas?

Speaker 6 (30:04):
Ain't this with a camera?

Speaker 5 (30:07):
Right?

Speaker 1 (30:09):
So let's talk about the new record. A season with
buster rhymes, that crazy shout, the bust of rhymes.

Speaker 5 (30:19):
He doing it, still doing this ship, but that's our record.
Fucking maybe two or three years before it even came out.
We flew out to La just to shoot the video.
So that's why we're just in the original, right, we're
just in the in the video and it's a sample
of He used a sample, so he flew us out

(30:39):
to La to be in the video. Then when the
song came out, my opinion, I think the public forced
that remix to happen, you know what I mean, because
they kept saying because I think it was put out
like a bust A Rounds featuring Mop and we weren't
actually on the record sample, so the public was like, yo,
where mopa. So you know, he called like, come on,

(31:01):
let's do it. So I was happy as fun because
that be by.

Speaker 10 (31:05):
The way, you got you got some got some listen, listen, listen.

Speaker 4 (31:15):
Every interview I do, I go on Twitter and I'll
be like, Yo.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
We got this guest, the good this guest. They this
was like the fastest ever.

Speaker 4 (31:23):
Like when I said they got questions for MP, these
motherfuckers went in so fast. I was like, Oh, I'm
looking like this shit is just going down my Twitter line.
I'm like, Yo, your fan, you got real fast.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
Do y'all realize that?

Speaker 3 (31:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (31:37):
I mean, after so many years in the business, and
not not that we don't fuck with everybody, but just
not being connected and being connected in so many ways
to other people. But our fans kept us going. You
know what I'm saying. We traveled the world like five times,
bro Brownsville, Brooklyn, right demand for that ship, you know
what I'm saying. So doing that that really that really

(32:01):
came from the from the fans, you.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
Know what I mean. The love that we get, it's
genuine love too, you know.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
And the place to what you got to say, No, just.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
The work, just the footwork, traveling, you know what I mean,
traveling the world Like you said that. You know, you
build your people. You see the people that love you,
that fuck with your music. That shit is energy that
you I'm going back to school.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
I don't even speak the language, and they.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
Know that ship word for word.

Speaker 5 (32:27):
Just before the pandemic was we were torn. We We
had started a tour and this dude came. He showed
me a picture of himself and a twenty year old
billy dance right Wow, smallest ship right drunkest fucked me
and him in the picture. The dude had his wife,
he had now had two kids. He brought them all
to the show. So he's been following since then. You

(32:51):
know what I'm saying. So that's the ship that keep
us going right there, make noise for that.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
What's your favorite place to perform?

Speaker 3 (33:00):
Saud?

Speaker 1 (33:00):
The United States?

Speaker 5 (33:02):
You can't say, because that energy, that energy is everywhere.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
I can't pick one me myself. I can't pick one.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
You know, you can we narrow it down, You really.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
Can't, You really can't.

Speaker 4 (33:17):
I how about the difference. What's the weirdest place you perform?

Speaker 3 (33:25):
We did some ship that I could say we we
did like a holy holy country. Uh Mamitania, Mariita, Maraitana.

Speaker 7 (33:34):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
That was like holy, like yeah, Africa, it's Africa. Yeah, yes, Africa, Maritia, Yeah, Marthionia, Christy.

Speaker 5 (33:43):
Land of the of the the one ninety Mercy, every one.
That was yeah right, there's all the cabs, everybody's driving them. Yeah,
yeah it was. It was so strict.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
You can't drink, you're nothing, you can't do nothing, nothing, You.

Speaker 4 (34:06):
Can't im say, how do you can curse?

Speaker 3 (34:11):
Yeah that's an instrumental.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
Because wow, that's crazy. They let you curse. Couldn't drink, smoke?

Speaker 3 (34:22):
Yeah, I can't smoke and it's getting the fun about
it that we're doing. But there was also.

Speaker 5 (34:29):
At one time we were performing and and you wouldn't
know it when you're inside of it was like bomb
shelters in Germany, like.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
Bombsholls, like World War two.

Speaker 5 (34:39):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah like that. This this is
my alcohol days. I was just sitting there sucking stone.
But when you when you realize it, like you're in
the you're really in a in a bombshell. So that
was that was kind of strange to performing. And you know,
some spots like that ship.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
Okay, we got a quick time.

Speaker 4 (34:57):
Yeah, you got explaining them.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
Game all right, Well, we gotta sub you're subbing for so
he's gonna be drinking for you.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
He's gonna drink for you.

Speaker 4 (35:07):
Okay, you gotta designate to hit us.

Speaker 7 (35:12):
All right, We're gonna give you two choices. This is
a game we play here. It's a drinking game. I
give you two choices, and you pick one, and nobody drinks.
But if you say both are neither. So basically, if
you don't answer the question, we're drinking.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
Gotcha, I'm gonna have youtubes fucked up. Ask me all the.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
Questions we're drinking with you. We're drinking.

Speaker 5 (35:31):
God damn you, nigga, ain't.

Speaker 4 (35:36):
Yours be to bro.

Speaker 3 (35:41):
That ship?

Speaker 1 (35:44):
What you want to do watching? You don't go after.

Speaker 7 (35:49):
Show and before we start because people think it's a
set up on this and somebody it's not this. No, no,
we want people to be mentioned, like talk a bunch
of it.

Speaker 4 (36:00):
Don't tell you you got kiss oh ship.

Speaker 5 (36:06):
Both so we drink.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
I gotta take.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
You.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
You can simp it like that like that if you want.
This is what we get sucked up.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
Had nigga crying up here and ship, Hell no it happened.

Speaker 5 (36:27):
Don't catch me, motherfucker.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
O D b or BISMARKI wow, why are you doing that? Crazy?
And I've seen this before. I've seen you do this.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
You'll got stories like like my story with you you.

Speaker 5 (36:41):
You made it a little lighter fannybody else that was here?
Why are you doing this?

Speaker 2 (36:53):
They said, both, Yeah you got ready, Yeah, lades got me.

Speaker 5 (37:03):
All right, cool cool.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
This is so you could answer the question though.

Speaker 4 (37:07):
Yeah, yeah, I got a good one.

Speaker 5 (37:12):
But it's impossible answers.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
Jay Z or Big Daddy Kane. I love them both,
love them both. I grew up Big daddy came bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I will go. Kane is my error, you know what
I mean. James my era too, but Kane is you
know before that I can't Yeah, what say, can.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
Rock a Fella or G Unit?

Speaker 3 (37:50):
I'm gonna say I'll say I'll say I'll say unit.

Speaker 5 (37:56):
Because because of their run, like right, like as and
not just because we was out with him and we
did business with him, but it was like almost everything
was in line, you know what I mean, everything that
I mean, starting with fifty right, like the first record
with the most amazing, one of the most amazing hip

(38:16):
hop records ever made, cannot front on get Richard die
Trump album, I mean a fucking whole album. And then
he brought everybody else into it like he was supposed to,
you know what I'm saying. And they all did well,
not saying everybody at Rockefeller didn't do well, but they
all platinum, multi platinum, every everybody and the whole ship

(38:37):
it was, it was, it was well put together, you
know what I'm saying. But shout out to Rockefeller because
you know, Dame is my guy. Fuck with j I
love fucking Beanie and you know that whole statement. The crew,
but I think I think G Unit kind of got
him on that. And when the G Unit record was
coming out, I guess I could tell this when the

(38:57):
G Unit record was coming out and they said to himself,
how he kind of everybody was kind of scrambling at
Rockefeller like them niggas is coming.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
So you know what I'm saying, do.

Speaker 5 (39:08):
Something, And I think there, I think there was a record.

Speaker 6 (39:11):
There was a Rockefeller record.

Speaker 5 (39:13):
That came out around the same time, so they was
kind of competing for the space for that first week
sales and I think, Je, you want to beat them out,
so you.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
Know, you know, it's crazy.

Speaker 7 (39:24):
Have you did you guys realize because you've been on
several situations labels, have you realized it? We part, not
that part, but the fact that you had all those
opportunities where people kept wanting you, how revered you were
by not just the culture, even the indy, of the
folks that were in the industry side of.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
Bringing you into these places.

Speaker 6 (39:46):
That's weird, Like we thought, yeah, we no, we appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
Man.

Speaker 5 (39:51):
I think it took me after I stopped, you know,
hitting hit. He's so hard to actually realize drink to
realize that.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (40:02):
Most of the labels, with exception of the first Select Records, right,
everybody else was a fan. It took everybody at fifty
I'll tell you that. Jay, You'll tell you that Steve,
Steve Rifkin. Jay and Dame used to come when we
were working on the second album that we put on, Relativity.
Jay and Dame used to come and try to get

(40:23):
us to be a part of Rockefeller. This when when
I like, I like to say it, when the rock
was a pebble, right, there was nobody there. They had
a they had a they had an office probably this size, right,
there was a young lady at the front desk. It
was just Jay and Dame, right, And they would always
try to they would I never met bigs at the time,
don't I Just remember Jay and Dame and they would

(40:43):
show up to Gabriella Studio. We were working on twenty
sixth Street. They would show up every other day. They'll
come rock with us, come rock with us. We didn't
you know what I mean, At the time, we went
uh Relativity, Relativity, which we were supposed to go to
Loud then, but we went to Relativity.

Speaker 1 (40:59):
And beating us is that Relativity at that time?

Speaker 3 (41:01):
Yeah as well.

Speaker 5 (41:02):
Yeah, okay six three six three six yea was jo Yeah,
Relativity had the popping.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
I think even if Joe, Joe was over there, Joe
was over there.

Speaker 4 (41:12):
Tellus one MV came out over there. Yeah, remember Chilo. Yeah,
they denied me Relativity.

Speaker 5 (41:18):
Then't want to they.

Speaker 4 (41:22):
They missed out right, they lost Bro Premier or Pete Rock,
Jesus Christ.

Speaker 3 (41:32):
Take a shot.

Speaker 5 (41:33):
Look I love both of them.

Speaker 3 (41:34):
Niggas mhm yeah, yeah, this is the heart. This is
the hardest ship.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
Now this is gonna be.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
I grew up on both of them.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
You want to explain that.

Speaker 3 (41:42):
You want to explain I grew up on both of them, man,
I let them niggas. Man, motherfucking Pete Rock. That fucking
that boy was on fire, fire, fire, fire, like this
nigga mixes that fucking shut him down.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
Hold it now, everything you everything was crazy, fucking brand Nubian,
fucking Pete Rocks.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
He smooth boy, sal smooth.

Speaker 4 (42:09):
I don't know what it's like someone who want to
spread the rumor that see how smooth?

Speaker 3 (42:13):
Was it?

Speaker 4 (42:13):
Welcome on drink chance. That's not the truth.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
No, that's not true at all. He is definitely welcome
see that nigga.

Speaker 3 (42:19):
Bro. Definitely Pete Rocks out to Pete Rock and see
people out to DJ form my brother. That's my nigga
for me. Is one of my favorites in the world. Bro,
He's one of my favorites in the world.

Speaker 6 (42:33):
I love him, love him.

Speaker 5 (42:34):
I'll be a little not mad at him, but there's
some things I wanted to get off my chest at
times with Premier, Like there's certain beats that he that
certain people have that I go, God, damn.

Speaker 3 (42:50):
Why you want everything you make?

Speaker 1 (42:55):
He doesn't make Doe.

Speaker 3 (42:57):
You don't what he does though?

Speaker 5 (42:59):
Is he he makes He's not like a lot of
other producers. They just got a bunch of beat. When
you come to the studio, he make the beat.

Speaker 4 (43:09):
It's almost like how we mean down with Slime, Like
you know how like has and mister Lee listening to
like the first five questions and then they come up
with the questions. It's the same thing like Premire to me,
like we would have conversations and he would make the
beat based on our conversations, Like he'll be like yo
and then just start.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
Making the beat and then that that beat and just talked
to me again. I was like, this is a genius ship.

Speaker 4 (43:36):
I was just mad and he kept throwing throwing the
beats away. That's how talenty it is. He just make another.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
One or yeah, all right, this is gonna be a
tough one, Guru, big l hell.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
No, y'all, niggas gonna need new livers in.

Speaker 4 (43:51):
This okay, so what yah?

Speaker 1 (43:57):
What the fuck?

Speaker 3 (43:59):
Fan?

Speaker 4 (44:00):
Enjoy the.

Speaker 5 (44:03):
By the way, you over my ass.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
Listen, listen rest the piece of them both though you
can do light shots were gilt. Okay, good, excuse this
light shot? This one, this one like this.

Speaker 4 (44:17):
One is gonna be real too, Big Pun or DMX
resting Peace.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
I'm gonna take the show.

Speaker 3 (44:22):
Wow, that's cold. I love them both, bro, all right,
so taking is my motherfucker bro. Punt is my brother
brother brother Bro. So I sat in the studio with
Pun like we was doing that the New York Giants,
Giant Bro. We for like a week. We used to
go up there. Never got nothing done, never got.

Speaker 5 (44:43):
No this nigga was ship around.

Speaker 3 (44:47):
It's just joke and joke.

Speaker 5 (44:50):
We were just leaning out basically, this nigga burning story,
you know what I mean, got his family there.

Speaker 3 (44:57):
Ship this nigga just pun pun. It's one of the
fortiest niggas. So you pick your mind.

Speaker 5 (45:03):
No, love this and this and this.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
Like it's hot.

Speaker 3 (45:07):
Yeah, I can't both for lyrics. I ain't even that.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
Both both.

Speaker 3 (45:15):
Yeah that X drink Yeah x X have me.

Speaker 5 (45:21):
I remember first, like actually hanging out with when I
first met him. We were doing but everybody, everybody know
we did the Callo together and wow have that.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
You know I was drunk.

Speaker 5 (45:35):
But this is when he first when he first came out,
when he was first coming out, right, this m p
that we're not cocky, right, but you know, I work,
We know, we.

Speaker 3 (45:43):
Get busy or whatever.

Speaker 5 (45:45):
We meet him, he's like, what's up, you know, good
to meet you whatever, All right, cool, This nigga gets
on the stage by himself and fucking destroyed the Apollo.

Speaker 6 (45:56):
I'm never I'm never really nervous.

Speaker 3 (45:57):
Ship.

Speaker 5 (45:58):
Yeah we made that's when the snow in the Apollo.
But he get on his stage by himself and destroy
the Apollo. Then the next I hadn't I saw him
that time, and obviously we'll pass each other and kick
it whatever whatever. Then some years later I saw him
in Germany. No, we were we toured with him a

(46:19):
couple a couple of Actually last time was just in Germany.

Speaker 3 (46:22):
He was there with us, but.

Speaker 5 (46:25):
He he not stole the car, but he had he
had got the car, and he gone, come on, get
a car.

Speaker 3 (46:34):
I'm not. I'm not getting car.

Speaker 5 (46:36):
Now because the story just happened like three weeks ago.
How you was in a fucking card so much. You
was the FBI and all ship. I'm like, I'm not
getting that culture. You're gonna get on the auto barn
at two hundred miles and now when ship you drunk,
I'm drunk, now, bro, this.

Speaker 3 (46:53):
Ship ain't gonna work.

Speaker 5 (46:55):
I had to decline, wasn't drunk. No, I wasn't that drunk.
I wasn't that drunk.

Speaker 3 (47:00):
Say, Extra is a good dude, extra solid dude, Same
same person every time, every time we see each other,
the same same nigga.

Speaker 5 (47:07):

Speaker 3 (47:08):
So shout out to DMX man. It's an honest due
to a niggas. Yeah, I'm a.

Speaker 5 (47:15):
To be honest like every record he made, I didn't
like every record, right to be honest, So no, he
was right, But I was more of a Simmons fan,
right the person this nigga felt so familiar. I mean, funk,
what kind of records you make? How big they y'all.

(47:35):
But if it's like it's you like, I can, I
can you know what I mean, zone in on you like.
That's why I love that nigga. That's why I love him.
D N D Acquad Studios, Fast Mob Deep or Swift
Smith and Wesson Alan Why you drinking?

Speaker 3 (48:03):
Yeah, that's crazy. I love them both, bro.

Speaker 5 (48:07):
You know, Mab Deep is the like the first artist
that we started dealing with in the industry, really, the
first like just just ran into and we kind of
got cool with the very first for me, the very first.

Speaker 3 (48:22):
I love Mab, I love Smith and Western Shout the Smoky.

Speaker 5 (48:25):
Yeah yeah, yeah them them, dude them do it a dope.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (48:30):
By the way, just so you know, Prodigy was supposed
to be on any remix, oh yeah, but obviously Prodigy
recipes of Prodigy, but obviously Prodigy being Prodigy, he started
taking shots at he was taking shots at day. That's
when they was going through They That's why.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
I didn't hear about this record.

Speaker 5 (48:49):
Use it right, yeah yeah, yeah, Now we didn't use
it because I mean, you know, if y'all got y'all
little whatever issue. Yeah, don't put me involved. And that's
what anything right, some music ships, some streets any thing,
like it's you know what I mean, I had to
learn the house. Don't come shoot at a nigga out
my windows.

Speaker 4 (49:04):
Yeah shoot, it's y'all be for you shooting at him
out Michael.

Speaker 5 (49:09):
Yeah, come on and that and and I'm good. I'm
good with him too.

Speaker 4 (49:14):
And those are the days where you had to go
to mix, so you knew you had enough time to
think about this when you're mixing this record, like he's kind.

Speaker 3 (49:21):
Of going like, what are you doing?

Speaker 4 (49:26):
He was at him, He was at him.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
Toufuc are easy?

Speaker 3 (49:33):
Wow, you have to fee shoot Fox. I love easy, motherfucker.
Rest and peace to both of them. Yeah, but easy, motherfucker. Yeah,
I'm going.

Speaker 5 (49:44):
I mean, I mean easy because of what he did
right for man, what do you want?

Speaker 2 (49:51):
Bro?

Speaker 3 (49:51):
West Coast hip hop?

Speaker 1 (49:53):
But I mean his tree is crazy.

Speaker 3 (49:54):
Yeah, you can't.

Speaker 7 (49:55):
You can't go from his tree to yeah easy if
you think about it, because Bro.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
That tree goes there.

Speaker 5 (50:02):
Yeah and pop just the passion pockets, just pockets of Ashley.

Speaker 3 (50:06):
I can't even compare them. But if I had to
choose one. I'm gonna pick easy.

Speaker 5 (50:11):

Speaker 1 (50:13):
I would say easy. It's just that's the way I
always think about it.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
And drinking more, I say, I drink water.

Speaker 5 (50:23):
So you're saying both, Yeah, I say both. I was
just trying to give him that's for next. Nigga wouldn't
let me get an explanation of that. I could have
said both, Okay, I got the next.

Speaker 1 (50:37):
We gotta drink.

Speaker 4 (50:37):
He said, okay, yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
E P m D or m O P.

Speaker 3 (50:51):
Yeah, m O P.

Speaker 5 (50:52):
But that's that shout out to all of these questions
is hard man like, I mean, the kind of birthed
m O P. Right like we got it from them,
you know what I mean. But I gotta go with
the whole team, right. I love E P m D,
but gotta go with the home.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
Which I do versus against E M D.

Speaker 3 (51:10):
I wouldn't do versus you.

Speaker 5 (51:15):
I wouldn't do versus. I wouldn't do it. I speaking
about EPMD. Why would you do versus this Nigga's interviewing me.

Speaker 3 (51:26):
But no, no, the reason, the reason, the reason why
I don't.

Speaker 5 (51:29):
I don't like and shout out to Swiss and Tim.
I just I feel like somebody got to come out
on the on the on the bottom, right, somebody, somebody
someone loses and they and they potentially lose what they
built for so many years, but not.

Speaker 4 (51:47):
Read and Meth kind of celebrated each other. They have
read in Meth.

Speaker 5 (51:51):

Speaker 7 (51:52):
But who do you think lost in that way that
you're thinking, because I think everybody's kind of won.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
They reminded the fans of I don't. I don't like
so I'm not.

Speaker 5 (52:00):
I'm not I'm not a good gambler, right, I'm not
really willing.

Speaker 3 (52:03):
No, I'm not.

Speaker 5 (52:04):
I'm not willing to put up something that I built
for thirty years just for that hour, right, And people go, yo,
always put a love of hip hop. But no, bro,
I'm not losing what the fuck I got fucking kids
and grandkids.

Speaker 3 (52:17):
And eat later on down the pipe. You know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (52:20):
I'm gonna fuck up what I got just for that,
for that moment moment, because you.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
Know, I totally understand what you're saying.

Speaker 4 (52:26):
And I think that the only people who kind of
made it like that is the New Yorkers. Like everybody
else was kind of celebrating each other. I believe in
particular it was Dipset and that.

Speaker 1 (52:41):
Was very in particular that that situation. Yes, I mean,
and they turned it into that was a good versus.
It was a great verse. They still both woman in
a way.

Speaker 4 (52:50):
To me, I say that, Well, Dipset went on tour
after that, yep.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
And I won't see anybody dragging Dipsett's name.

Speaker 3 (52:58):
Do you know what?

Speaker 1 (53:00):
How about Gucie Man and jeez whoa.

Speaker 6 (53:04):
I think that one was almost a little dangerous.

Speaker 4 (53:07):
Yeah, I didn't feel safe watching it.

Speaker 3 (53:11):
I think that one was.

Speaker 4 (53:14):
And uh, but that was from the beginning.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
And I remember, I ain't gonna lie to you.

Speaker 4 (53:22):
I remember them having beef on tour, and I was
from the beginning. I was like, this is not gonna
work right right right, So, but you wouldn't do it now.

Speaker 3 (53:32):
I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't. I wouldn't be comfortable
with doing it for that reason. I walked up from
that we ain't doing the verses just I said, I'm
not doing it. We ain't doing.

Speaker 5 (53:47):
We ain't doing the verses. I just I just don't
like the feel of it, you know what I'm saying.
I think that everybody could haul into the side and
said that.

Speaker 3 (54:03):
Drink champion.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
DMX still in the car and I'm not.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
Doing Oh my god, straight, this is the uh Ellmatic
or ready to die?

Speaker 1 (54:16):
Well, I mean we'll go back to I didn't drink.

Speaker 4 (54:18):
Bro okay, Nomatic, just drink all let's go.

Speaker 1 (54:21):
No, I just did. Okay, that's what we do.

Speaker 4 (54:24):
Okay, don't worry about we set up breaking champs. Ellmatic
are ready to die.

Speaker 7 (54:30):
He said both baby without saying it, but he said it.

Speaker 4 (54:36):
I've been taking my shots like genuine. Now that's how genuine.
Remember he was like he was taking this shot. I
didn't taking a sip of Coca cola on the side.
Dall period or lazy lads. Oh man, don't look to
the side. Laser is dope, Laziers dope. And we're talking
about production. Yeah, I'm about to say the same thing.

(54:57):
Lazier is dope.

Speaker 5 (54:58):
But just dr does dr is the perfect well rounded
right like he can do. We're back in the studio
with d All right now we're working on m O.
PR just started.

Speaker 1 (55:17):
Independent wing into that.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
Yeah, nigga talking about we just got the studio, niggah.

Speaker 4 (55:28):
My man always big up the all period.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
I was in jail.

Speaker 4 (55:33):
He jabrew the damage you or Master Ace.

Speaker 5 (55:43):
Wow, you wouldn't ask these kind of questions if the camera.

Speaker 3 (55:48):
Was off for you.

Speaker 5 (55:50):
Yeah you wouldn't, you know, you wouldn't. J's dope. That's
my bro, that's my guy. But I mean since the
kid I was a age fans, The man said, yeah, yeah,
since you know Master age from Brownfield. I didn't know
he's from Brooklyn.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
I didn't know what from.

Speaker 3 (56:09):
Yeah, browns fill the j rug shot the math yea
in Germany.

Speaker 4 (56:16):
I believe you picking Master Yeah, you picking Master browns Field.
That can't go Okay, I respect it. Who'd you rapple
rock him?

Speaker 1 (56:26):
That was high school?

Speaker 3 (56:27):
That was junior high school?

Speaker 5 (56:29):
High school argument?

Speaker 1 (56:31):
I don't know who?

Speaker 3 (56:33):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
What are you gonna do?

Speaker 3 (56:37):
There's no there's no you gotta junior high school, bro,
junior high school. We used to fucking go back or
if this day is sucking g this is rah. Yeah yeah, bro.
We never got the answer to that one.

Speaker 5 (56:52):
Bro taking a shot Yeah, yeah, And I want I
want to say, don't y'all go and take y'all shot?

Speaker 9 (56:59):
Man.

Speaker 5 (56:59):
I want to say rock him to me, rock him
is the best rapper ever, I don't think we'll never
find anohing right.

Speaker 3 (57:09):
That's I'm not. I'm not without the comparison.

Speaker 5 (57:12):
MG rap right, Rock Him is the greatest rapper ever,
that's my opinion. And if anybody else have a have
another patience, he don't, don't.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
It feels like he's person.

Speaker 5 (57:30):
It sounds like he's right.

Speaker 3 (57:33):
Sound. Yeah, I'm both for different reasons. Bro. Yeah, yeah,
me too, for different reasons. And they're both my favorites,
both of there equally, and they super legend Cube or
scar Face. That's the same ship. Bro.

Speaker 1 (57:56):
That's your man who writes.

Speaker 5 (58:00):
I love botham Bro both mother fucker.

Speaker 3 (58:05):
Yeah, I'm going for both. I love them both, Bro,
I love them both.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
Bro.

Speaker 5 (58:12):
I mean I mean, face Face is my number two
right for me, it's Rock Him than the Scarface Face.

Speaker 3 (58:18):
Let me tell you that motherfucking Scarface album, motherfucking the Diary, Bro,
That shit got me through so much ship. Yeah, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (58:27):
We used to.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
Steal tapes from each other. You have a nigga call
you forget to tape and ship.

Speaker 5 (58:32):
You know you tape pop your tape twisted at a certain.

Speaker 3 (58:34):
Part you hear next time, Nigga, that's my fucking tape.
You stole that Scarface album CDs from each other so
many times that she can passed around the circle, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (58:44):
So that's that's that's Scarface.

Speaker 3 (58:47):
That fucking the Diary, untouchable. Scarface is just a bad motherfucker. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (58:54):
And the and the eyes.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
You said was you.

Speaker 3 (59:03):
Was dope a bad motherfucker, yo, Ice that So I
just drank to a nigga.

Speaker 5 (59:09):
I drank to every everything it did from from early on.
Ice Cube is crazy. But then scar Face, like you
can't there's no way to.

Speaker 4 (59:16):
Come his argument. It was an argument, brother, No, it
was it was. It was scar Face and who else? No, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (59:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (59:25):
When Yale asked me who my favorite artist was, I've
always been a Cube fans attended, So I said Cube.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
He said Biggie. I said cool, and he didn't like
I would, and he started arguing I would.

Speaker 3 (59:37):
I would have won with Cube over big.

Speaker 7 (59:40):
Became a career to me, it became a career thing.
Unfortunately Biggie didn't didn't have the career. Unfortunately, right of course, Biggie,
come on, it's undeniable with Bigger, but Cube had the career.
N W lineage like you can't argue that man, No, no, no,
I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (59:54):
This is like a real hip.

Speaker 5 (59:55):
I'm sorry to keep saying both both both both what
it's the truth? Brow you can't you can't. I can't
pick ice.

Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
Cube over over scarf face scarf face over ice Q.

Speaker 5 (01:00:05):
You're ready.

Speaker 3 (01:00:06):
You just can't. That's real.

Speaker 4 (01:00:07):
Can you pick Kicking pre over funk faster?

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
Flex?

Speaker 3 (01:00:12):
I want a.

Speaker 5 (01:00:12):
Kid, I'll kids a bad mother another superle Not to
take anything from Flex.

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
Just my opinion.

Speaker 4 (01:00:24):
Is I think Flex is the best radio DJ that
ever happened, and I think Kicking pri is one of
the best club DJ party that happened. Like there's no
part of a Caprix party. But when Flex got a
good record, he makes.

Speaker 3 (01:00:41):
Me like it right, yeah, your head.

Speaker 7 (01:00:45):
The way he bombs and bringing it back.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
I'm about to hear. So one time I missed my
flight because you know the meat, the meat mal dre.
But one time you did pull off. Yea, I swig off,
I pulled off. I'll be hype.

Speaker 3 (01:01:08):
I like.

Speaker 4 (01:01:09):
Then he said, yo, go in there and go to the
store and grab some cash.

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
I said, hold up, that's where we stopped. You're telling
niggas to go on into New York City. Yeah, okay,
and put your hands in the cash.

Speaker 4 (01:01:20):
I said youre gonna get somebody killed, you know what
I mean? But yeah, I love I love that ship.
All right, let's move on, okay, boom yeah black Moon
or Onyx.

Speaker 6 (01:01:31):
Hmm, I'll say black Moon.

Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:01:36):
Brooklyn Niggas is loyal.

Speaker 3 (01:01:42):
The style of music for me, right, like I like
their style of music.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
I love honest, but Brooklyn is loyal.

Speaker 7 (01:01:48):
We've had Brooklyn, we say, they say, they just say Brooklyn.

Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
They won't even answer the quest. Brooklyn. We know what
you're saying, so expect the Brooklyn.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
Yeah, thank you, yea.

Speaker 1 (01:02:07):
Fab and push your tea.

Speaker 5 (01:02:10):
Wow, fab, I say, I say, they both nice, the
motherfucker they both don't, I say, pushing.

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
I feel like that's kind of like both No, no, no, no,
We're like, you're relax, mister, you're not even drinking, all right,
m light of Queen Latifa.

Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
Wow, get your cups, don't get your cups ready.

Speaker 11 (01:02:33):
Siggas, bro you can't show.

Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
Neither neither one of them.

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
So it is damn like both both both got we
need both don't drink chances please, Yeah awesome.

Speaker 5 (01:02:56):
Yeah, we're talking about Queen like Tea for though, bro,
we're talking about MC like, MC like got the most.

Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
I still, I still, I still, I M like record
nigga when I was, when I was a kid nigga,
which which one percent? Dish?

Speaker 4 (01:03:10):
I still you and I t.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
Yep, that's what I saying.

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
Both hot, damn hot damn who.

Speaker 3 (01:03:22):
I don't know the beat? Oh you have it now.

Speaker 7 (01:03:26):
I want to show your girl like she was, Man
gets better.

Speaker 5 (01:03:31):
Female with that like her voice, her voice, like her
voice so fucking crazy.

Speaker 6 (01:03:38):
I don't think i've heard of female.

Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
And she when she said she was the saying right
now she and she's doing all the voiceovers.

Speaker 5 (01:03:47):
Every paper, third that paper, then paper.

Speaker 3 (01:03:50):
Then with you know, God, come on, nigga, I want
to see NERD when to come to this.

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
His hands down one of the best records ever.

Speaker 4 (01:03:59):
Yeah, yeah, I want them to do versus. We're gonna
bring you in a little while, Lace, were gonna bring
you in a little while.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
Let us see you for a little while.

Speaker 5 (01:04:09):
You like the hell right.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
Now, we gotta make you from over there bringing it
in a little while.

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
Hold on, I promise, uh pop smoke or Nipsey.

Speaker 3 (01:04:23):
Hustle mm hmm. I know. I know a little more
about nipsy like music wise. So I gotta.

Speaker 5 (01:04:34):
Say shot and we try to take a shower, take
a shot, I take a shot.

Speaker 3 (01:04:41):
I take a shot.

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
Yeah, I got you look peace both see or Chuck Rock,
I love you?

Speaker 3 (01:04:51):
Oh see Chuck Rock.

Speaker 4 (01:04:54):
Ninety n you Bro with the glean you win the
pocket pull of Green?

Speaker 3 (01:04:58):
Yeah? We yes, oh ce oh see oh see. If
my memory is correct, o see is the first person
we chub Rock?

Speaker 6 (01:05:14):
Never but is the first person we asked.

Speaker 3 (01:05:17):
To be on that.

Speaker 4 (01:05:18):
You can't even match that though you can't match.

Speaker 3 (01:05:20):
That's two different errors though really I'm not telling you
what to do.

Speaker 5 (01:05:24):

Speaker 3 (01:05:25):
But that's two different errors. So slew o C I
love you brother?

Speaker 1 (01:05:29):
Did you so chub Rock?

Speaker 3 (01:05:30):
Was that the record?

Speaker 5 (01:05:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:05:34):
What was? What was the name of the record? We did?

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
We o s I forgot it was one of the first.

Speaker 3 (01:05:39):
On the first Fantaslave.

Speaker 5 (01:05:40):
But that's the first if if I remember correctly, is
the first artist that we asked to get on the record.

Speaker 4 (01:05:47):
OPI records still Oh is fire Bro? Yeah man or
red Man?

Speaker 5 (01:05:59):
I swear to god, I thought in my head yesterday
I'm standing in front of my fucking house. I said,
watch these niggas ask that question, sweaty, I said, watch.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
They asked that obvious. You have to take a drink.

Speaker 9 (01:06:12):
K Man.

Speaker 1 (01:06:17):
Both is loocively because he's not dreaming for we Rizzo
or d J.

Speaker 5 (01:06:24):
Muggs.

Speaker 3 (01:06:28):
I say, I says, said, have.

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
Y'all worked with Mugs? No, don't like you crazy?

Speaker 3 (01:06:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:06:36):
The Muggs record that.

Speaker 5 (01:06:37):
I don't like.

Speaker 4 (01:06:40):
Very dope your TV raps or video music box, video box.

Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
Yeah, I knew I was gonna say that.

Speaker 4 (01:06:48):
Yeah, yeah, right, Sean Price a prodigy.

Speaker 1 (01:06:55):
You skip book.

Speaker 5 (01:06:55):
I just took a shot that question.

Speaker 4 (01:06:58):
Both Yeah, Dave Peace, rest in peace, a Peace, Sharan
Price Recidpeace Prodigy. The Tunnel or Latin Quarters Tunnel land
Quarters was a ship, but we weren't there.

Speaker 3 (01:07:14):
We weren't quarter the tunnel, lady said, l Q land Quarters.

Speaker 4 (01:07:20):
So you got to nigga, I.

Speaker 3 (01:07:21):
Ain't never been there, nigga the tunnel.

Speaker 1 (01:07:29):
All right? Buster eminem, Oh hell no, what.

Speaker 3 (01:07:32):
The funk y'all doing?

Speaker 5 (01:07:33):
Bro?

Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
This is your man? Yeah, but when we give your flower,
when we.

Speaker 5 (01:07:42):
I mean that, we talk about careers right like both bro, Bro,
Bro Brush I think song choices right, like the songs
that busted me. Eminem made some big powerful but I
don't know if his his catalog is rounded as well

(01:08:06):
rounded as buster ship.

Speaker 3 (01:08:08):
You know what I'm saying. But we say both drinking.

Speaker 5 (01:08:13):
You know, I'm like the ball tender and I sit
back the board and watching niggas walk out of here.

Speaker 4 (01:08:17):
Sideway psychoanalyzer, young m a or scarlet.

Speaker 3 (01:08:25):
Younger man.

Speaker 4 (01:08:26):
You know what I mean, younger man, lost boys dy
by nature.

Speaker 5 (01:08:33):
You you you.

Speaker 3 (01:08:34):
You come with the right, You go with the right.
Fucking two that it's hard to that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
Well I'm going with NODI.

Speaker 3 (01:08:44):
Yeah, I go with but Cheecks is my bro. But
that's my dude. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:08:52):
Now that you don't drink, said again, still hang with
checks now that you don't drink.

Speaker 5 (01:08:56):
No, I don't think nobody really want to stick with me.

Speaker 9 (01:08:58):
No more.

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
He don't want to stick with me.

Speaker 4 (01:09:05):
Kink's boys. He's a long drinker, like like he starts
out long and then he starts.

Speaker 3 (01:09:11):
Speaking queens and these yo, brot me. I know hemes
really well. I had Cheeks meet me in a.

Speaker 5 (01:09:20):
Spot in his neighborhood that he didn't know about just
my drinking days, little hole and rocking withy Boulevard. Wow, dude,
we drank so motherfucking much. I don't remember the spot closing.
I just remember being somewhere else, right, I know we
got in the car. I'm not sure who was driving
which way we went. We went somewhere else, started drinking more,

(01:09:41):
even out here years and you know years ago.

Speaker 4 (01:09:44):
Ship yeah, because he's yeah, yeah, out here, me and him.

Speaker 5 (01:09:49):
I mean, dude, we walk up and down the strip
one time. It's like like fucking animals. So but no,
he he don't really stick with me no more because
I don't drink.

Speaker 3 (01:09:57):
But that's that's my that's my love him.

Speaker 5 (01:10:00):
I love I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:02):
He's speaking queens and the queen. I was like, wait
a minute, I don't even know that word.

Speaker 7 (01:10:10):
Shout out shout as well.

Speaker 1 (01:10:13):
This is one of my favorite questions.

Speaker 4 (01:10:15):
Wu Tang clan or n w A.

Speaker 5 (01:10:22):
I almost I'm a damn bro. I'm I'm gonna say
wool tank. I'm gonna say wool Tang. I got different
things in my head and why I'm choosing or I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:10:32):
Choosing tell us.

Speaker 5 (01:10:34):
I mean, I musa say wang because came out, they're
still would you like to, I say, because they still

(01:10:56):
a unit right after all of this time and all
of this six Unfortunately with n w A, we sort
of broke up the breakup, right, Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:11:05):
That's why? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:11:08):
So WHU time.

Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
That's a good analog or digital?

Speaker 3 (01:11:12):
Analog?

Speaker 4 (01:11:13):
AG Let's make me sonoy because I'm an analog.

Speaker 2 (01:11:19):
For different reasons, though for different reasons.

Speaker 4 (01:11:22):
Analog because, like he said, like we made the record together.

Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
Look how good that recond? That record sound like we made.

Speaker 4 (01:11:28):
It yesterday when I was just listening to it, because
I haven't heard it in these many years. Even when
I was listening to y'all for a whole week, knowing
that I had y'all coming up, I didn't listen to
that record. I just listened to that record just now.
And when I heard it just now, I couldn't tell
if we made it yesterday.

Speaker 1 (01:11:42):
That's because we was in the studio together.

Speaker 7 (01:11:43):
Gus to him, when analog is about the being personally
together where they talk to the people with the equipment,
they're like the analog equipment.

Speaker 1 (01:11:50):
I want an analog record, digital mixed, but analog.

Speaker 4 (01:12:02):
You don't want to wait for the listen. Let me
tell you something that was the good thing. I was
coming from being five per center. So I would never
go to the studio without knowing my rhymes. Right here,
I had never during the analog days, I never wrote
in the studio. I always had that ship in my
motherfucking brain, so I didn't play no times. I would
go in there and record, record, record, record, record, record

(01:12:24):
and record.

Speaker 3 (01:12:25):
Right. Well, some people use the digital ship. Well it's
just they don't do no work. They don't put no
they don't put no time into the ship, right, so.

Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
They it's despicable. They can just keep doing it.

Speaker 5 (01:12:36):
What I think, the digital is good.

Speaker 3 (01:12:39):
I love the analogue. The digital is good for artists
like you, artists like us.

Speaker 5 (01:12:44):

Speaker 3 (01:12:46):
You could just punch in. You ain't gotta rewind.

Speaker 1 (01:12:48):
Yeah you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:12:50):
You tape pop off and all that shape. Yeah yeah, yeah,

Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
I don't know that pain.

Speaker 3 (01:12:55):
I think the digital coming would have came in handy
for those time.

Speaker 5 (01:12:59):
But besides the analogue.

Speaker 4 (01:13:02):
I always give that the tras man. I know, I
probably never said that trage would make sure, like yo,
you're gonna do three records? Make sure you got all
your rhymes, and I would four weeks straight before I
went to the studio.

Speaker 1 (01:13:14):
I had the rhymes in there. So when I that's why.

Speaker 4 (01:13:16):
If you look at listen to the word report, I'm
always the first one on the motherfucking record is because.

Speaker 5 (01:13:20):
I had my.

Speaker 1 (01:13:23):
Going that album.

Speaker 3 (01:13:24):
Yes one of my.

Speaker 5 (01:13:31):
Listen to the album nig Yes good Looking, I Got you,
I Got you.

Speaker 4 (01:13:39):
All Eyes on Me or Life after Death. That's two
parking biggies out. Wow, I'm actually gonna go to Life
after Death. Yeah, I'm gonna go with that one.

Speaker 3 (01:13:53):
Man, I got it. I go with a lives on me. Wow,
we're not drinking. Yeah, I'm trying to say you niggas
you know.

Speaker 5 (01:14:06):
But the truth thing is like to two different kind
of artists to me, right and for me, I like
the passion that to podcast, I could respect that, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:14:18):
So that's why I.

Speaker 1 (01:14:19):
Never got to meet Tupac.

Speaker 3 (01:14:22):
I was drunk, bro, so I really remember. But for
what you got a picture on?

Speaker 1 (01:14:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:14:29):
Yeah I did.

Speaker 3 (01:14:30):
I did.

Speaker 5 (01:14:30):
I know I did, but but I met him with Big.
I met him with Biggie, but I can't remember with Big.
Yeah you got to remember this. Bro just says that
I met him. He said, so nonchalot. Yeah, I mean
everybody know that what they were good, they were they
were friends at one time, so that's at all. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

(01:14:55):
but that that's how I met him. But being, you know,
drunk is fuck. But I always always get you know,
slack for people asked me about in comparison to to
Biggie Pot. I love being. I love him as an artist.
I think the lyrically this thinking was nuts. But what
I more towards Park's passion, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:15:18):
So it's two different artists, human artists. What I told you,
I'm going with big like.

Speaker 4 (01:15:25):
That's right, that's right. He said that radio or podcast podcast?

Speaker 1 (01:15:35):
How you gonna ask the.

Speaker 5 (01:15:36):
Nigga that never got no radio playing radio? Right?

Speaker 4 (01:15:42):
Has mister Lee making these questions?

Speaker 1 (01:15:46):
Talk?

Speaker 3 (01:15:46):
After this?

Speaker 1 (01:15:48):
You line up had New Jack City, King of New
York movies, Jack City.

Speaker 3 (01:16:02):
King of New York. M hm, I go King of
New York. Okay, New Jack City.

Speaker 1 (01:16:09):
Purpose now we're.

Speaker 3 (01:16:10):
Trying to save.

Speaker 1 (01:16:12):
I got two shots. I'm just take him anyway.

Speaker 4 (01:16:14):
At some point, Tony Yea or Lloyd Banks going queens
against queens.

Speaker 3 (01:16:24):
Oh no, bro, I got a drink. Drink bro, my
own boys.

Speaker 4 (01:16:28):
Yeah, this is the only one to me, that's that question.
It's not a trick question, but kind of a trick question.
The only one that I always feel like you should
say both.

Speaker 2 (01:16:41):
I mean, you can't say that and then that that's
some crazy ship.

Speaker 1 (01:16:45):
Loyalty or respect, I mean really loyalty lawyerty is everything.

Speaker 5 (01:16:55):
But the lawyers with loyalty gonna come to respect anyway. Right,
If you're loyal to somebody, you're loyal to the feelings,
You're loyal to who they are. You know what I'm saying,
You loyal to that person. So you would respect somebody
that you're loyal to. Am I right or wrong?

Speaker 3 (01:17:13):
Yep?

Speaker 1 (01:17:13):
I mean it's really an individuals respect.

Speaker 3 (01:17:16):
In case you ain't no this, Nigga the Harbord student.

Speaker 7 (01:17:23):
I would say, the easy way out is to say both,
give me both of that ship.

Speaker 3 (01:17:28):
That is all right?

Speaker 5 (01:17:30):
What if somebody respects you, That don't mean they're going
to be loyal to your right because if it respects you,
that could mean he even fails you in your face.
But nigga may do some underhanded ship that you can't see.
But if a nigga's loyal to you. It's not doing
anything underhanded, am I right? Right?

Speaker 7 (01:17:49):
But if you get the option as we're giving loyalty
or respect, and you could have both, I'm taking both.

Speaker 1 (01:17:56):
Give me both, but you got both for one.

Speaker 3 (01:17:58):
If you pick the right.

Speaker 1 (01:17:58):
One, you're taking a shot for that. I picked one,
got it.

Speaker 5 (01:18:10):
But you know.

Speaker 1 (01:18:14):
What's so great?

Speaker 3 (01:18:14):
That's what?

Speaker 1 (01:18:16):
Oh man?

Speaker 3 (01:18:17):
All right?

Speaker 4 (01:18:17):
Cool, we getting back to the interview. Boom oh okay,
I will be your head boy. You know what.

Speaker 1 (01:18:31):
The what did you get that call? And he said,
I need you on with your head?

Speaker 5 (01:18:36):
But when I don't remember Famous, I don't remember what
I'm saying. I don't remember getting a call. I remember Famous.

Speaker 3 (01:18:46):
Actually staying at fifty Crab in Connecticut, Connecticut.

Speaker 5 (01:18:51):
He had the studio over there.

Speaker 4 (01:18:53):
We score up there just chill, you know, like like
the stunt you just did. That was staying at the
Big Boy career.

Speaker 3 (01:19:01):
I try to flex. I reported that record. I started
to recording that record in fifty crib So that was
your record. No, that's fifty Records. It's the reading. They
pulled up the fucking beat and you know what I mean,
I just I just went in on it.

Speaker 5 (01:19:20):
You know what I mean. First, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:19:24):
Then we built you said you said first to say
you not?

Speaker 3 (01:19:29):
You know, to me, I'm gonna stamp your ass out
with the Gore text feet from Broccoli. Yeah history, because
back then we were just we were just signed to you.
Then right when you walked through flat Bolls, we had
to wear the ship that you know them nigga was
going through ship out there, you know what I mean.
So you you gotta think like yo, g in it?

Speaker 5 (01:19:51):
You know, yeah, what up? You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:19:53):
Then I had a situation where niggas kept playing with
me with that gun ship, you know what i You
know what I mean. Yeah, the nigga play fighting and
ship and nigga he ran and left his homeboy, took off.
How you don't leave your homeboy took off on boom
stopped playing me because.

Speaker 5 (01:20:11):

Speaker 3 (01:20:12):
So that's why I put that in that in that record.
So I'm like, first we had to wear that ship.

Speaker 1 (01:20:17):
Too, you know, you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (01:20:19):
Thank you for saying that because a lot of people
say thing was going at games right because you said
the first nigga that says.

Speaker 3 (01:20:27):
You you not to me?

Speaker 5 (01:20:29):
He was talking about every other nigga that said you
not to him and had nothing to do with game
Bro just be him, jid.

Speaker 3 (01:20:39):
I didn't know it, just being affiliated with gu and
it them nigga was going through ship Bro, you walk
through the ship nigga, you know what I mean? Like,
what the fucker?

Speaker 5 (01:20:49):

Speaker 3 (01:20:51):
I gotta wear it. I gotta wear it. So now yeah,
I guess, so yeah, let's go, mother fucker, you know
what I mean. So that's how I came.

Speaker 1 (01:20:59):
About what record you said? He said murderer one of
y'all said it.

Speaker 3 (01:21:06):
I don't remember. I got it written down somewhere home.

Speaker 7 (01:21:10):
Did y'all have a relationship with fifty before that, before
y'all had to deal?

Speaker 6 (01:21:14):
No, not, no, no.

Speaker 7 (01:21:17):
So was it a surprise to you when that came
to you guys? Yeah, Yeah, it was a surprise.

Speaker 3 (01:21:22):
Yeah it was. It was a surprise.

Speaker 5 (01:21:26):
It's I mean at the time and again, and that's
another situation where we did business with this person because
there was a fan of m op Fi right crazy.
I used to be in all through South to make
a lot. But I don't know him from the street man,
so I only know him from from in the business.

Speaker 1 (01:21:46):
But he signed y'all because he really was a.

Speaker 3 (01:21:48):
Fan of Mobile and son his son.

Speaker 5 (01:21:51):
When he tells the story he tells, he tells how
his son was was really.

Speaker 3 (01:21:55):
Like stuck on Andy up and he was an actual fan.

Speaker 5 (01:21:58):
And my family member us all from from South Jamaica.
When I go, if I'm going through God Briel or
some more up and down something whatever, always running to summer, Yo,
you need to do something with Fifty just before ship
got hot, before it before the for the mixtape and
all that ship. But I never I had never met
him out there, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:22:17):
What I mean.

Speaker 5 (01:22:18):
So so now just you know, once we got once
he got into the business, then we started.

Speaker 3 (01:22:22):
Mingling or whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:22:23):
And earlier I had actually a Rockefeller or g unit.
And I find that interesting because a lot of people
say that Fifty is like a good business man, like.

Speaker 1 (01:22:32):
Like he like calls you in all types of nights.

Speaker 4 (01:22:34):
I remember reading the interview somewhere and I think that
he said that y'all call, he called you out to
the hotel room and was acting like, what's y'all single
or something like that? Is that true?

Speaker 3 (01:22:45):
You know?

Speaker 5 (01:22:46):
You know my answer, I was drunk. I was drunk.
I was drunk back then too. I was drunk as
fuck back then, but that was I was.

Speaker 3 (01:22:56):
I was twisted back then.

Speaker 5 (01:22:57):
But uh all the first the first thing I remember
is going to a video shoot. I remember what song
it was, but yeah, mom, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know
it was one before that, before before they song, before
they put that song together. But we went to a
video shoot, and that's where I met him. Man, I

(01:23:19):
think y'all had already met you and the ladies had
already up with him or something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:23:22):
We went to video shoot fifty.

Speaker 5 (01:23:24):
Yeah, went to the video shoot link with fifty, and
he's telling us his plans and all of this. And
first thing I said to him listening to him talk,
he's a great guy, by the way. I once I
listened to him talk, I'm like, what motherfucker is saying
about him? It's not that he's not that, you know what,

(01:23:44):
because everybody try to make him look a certain way.
But he's talking and talking. I'm listening, I'm listening, I'm
paying attention. But so I asked him, what was his
problem with the fact Joe and jadakiss right, Because he's.

Speaker 3 (01:23:58):
A friend of mine and this is the time that
they beef it.

Speaker 5 (01:24:01):
Yeah, they're beefing because and they wasn't beefing. It was
just whatever on the records and ship and he and
he gave me. He gave me a.

Speaker 3 (01:24:09):
Clear answer, straight answer.

Speaker 5 (01:24:12):
When I asked him the first time, he kind of
overlooked it, went back to talking. Then I asked him
the game. He goes, you see what I'm saying. I go, yeah,
but what is your problem with Fat Joe and Jada
kiss Nigga said, I do what I gotta do to
sell records and then turn around and walk away and
finish doing whatever fuck he was doing over there. So

(01:24:32):
I said, I respect him for that, you know what
I mean. So they didn't have no beef basically is
what he said, you know what I mean. I just
wanted to get it clear because sometimes in the business,
you know, niggas start going yo. You running with them,
those your peoples, whatever issues y'are they dealing with, you
gotta deal with too.

Speaker 3 (01:24:48):
You know how that shit go with g and it.

Speaker 5 (01:24:51):
They didn't sign them op to be hired guns, you.

Speaker 3 (01:24:54):
Know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (01:24:54):
Or whatever problems they had, they already was dealing with it.
They didn't really need us for that, you know, under saying,
so you we just came through the you know, we
were doing business. We came through you know, did whatever
we were supposed to.

Speaker 3 (01:25:05):
Do over the artist one. Yeah, we were.

Speaker 6 (01:25:07):
We were this business.

Speaker 3 (01:25:09):
You know, we always going to be MPs regardless to
where we act.

Speaker 1 (01:25:12):
But jay Z said different. Jay Z said, now it's
more now the mops higher. Yeah, but.

Speaker 5 (01:25:19):
He said, but JA said, and that's the whole that's
a whole other thing too, like you.

Speaker 3 (01:25:24):
Know, we would.

Speaker 1 (01:25:27):
We say how more now?

Speaker 4 (01:25:32):
Yeah, he was saying, I got the niggas with me,
y'all back up.

Speaker 5 (01:25:36):
But that's a song that's lyrics, right, and that kind
of issue that and we don't know Jay for being
in that kind of it anyway, like like that, you
know what I'm saying, You don't bring that to his
music anyway, to his career. But even then, like we're
dealing with with Rockefeller, that whole break up with them
should hurt us, bro.

Speaker 4 (01:25:53):
With did you know that was coming?

Speaker 3 (01:25:56):
No, neither.

Speaker 5 (01:25:58):
And the reason why I heard the because, like I said,
when the rock was a pebble, we watched them build
this entire ship. You were there too, niggas, you know, you.
We watched them build this entire ship so to get
to toward the ending, towards the end of Rockefeller. I
couldn't believe it because we grew up with this loyal thing.

(01:26:21):
Not saying that they You know what I'm saying, We
don't know what was going on with them and what
and and the way I feel about it has nothing
to do with them.

Speaker 3 (01:26:28):
Or not saying anything about them. It's saying about us.

Speaker 5 (01:26:31):
But so Jay offered us a deal, right, No, first
they Dame offered the deal. Mmm, right now, we don't
we don't want to do that. A week later we
go up to death Jam. Jay offered the.

Speaker 4 (01:26:46):
Deal and Jay is on he's the president.

Speaker 3 (01:26:49):
The president of Death Jam.

Speaker 5 (01:26:51):
So so I go, I go.

Speaker 3 (01:26:58):
Right, so to read.

Speaker 5 (01:27:00):
And the reason why is because we watched them build
something together. Right, they made millions together. Right, they came
from the bottom together. Y'all break up. Now in my head,
I'm going, if you could do that to your man,
what could you do to me? You know what I'm saying,
Like to me, niggas ain't ain't disposable like this nigga,

(01:27:24):
he ain't disposable, you know what I'm saying, Like a
nigga that I come up with my entire life or
turned ship into sugar. They ain't disposable. I'm not saying
anything about them. I'm saying that turn into sugar. Yeah,
I like that, you.

Speaker 3 (01:27:36):

Speaker 5 (01:27:37):
So I felt I felt like I wouldn't have been
comfortable doing like this.

Speaker 3 (01:27:46):
Put me in coach, That's what I was waiting for, nigga.

Speaker 6 (01:27:54):
Let's go to that was that's scary to me. That
that's scary.

Speaker 5 (01:27:59):
Right, If you can't if you can't trust somebody that
that that helped you do something so so grand, so big, right,
you know what I'm saying, that's scary.

Speaker 3 (01:28:10):
So I don't. I didn't want to deal with that
kind of situation.

Speaker 6 (01:28:13):
You know what I'm saying. I don't know, and I
don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:28:16):
I don't know what their situation was either, you know
what I'm saying. But that's that's there there there, You
know what I mean, y'all, Just.

Speaker 4 (01:28:24):
Yeah, I ain't he just skipped the line.

Speaker 1 (01:28:31):
You didn't want us involved. I didn't make no rooms.

Speaker 3 (01:28:35):
Room.

Speaker 4 (01:28:36):
I'm so on this. I got you, yo, but you
but you but do you understand how important you guys
are the hip hop.

Speaker 1 (01:28:44):
Absolutely. I mean, we know, bro, I mean y'all know.

Speaker 4 (01:28:48):
Like the other day I interviewed Leo cohms right, and
I was telling him the amazing things that he did
in my life.

Speaker 1 (01:28:53):
The Leon life is so dope. He didn't even remember it.
So he regretted you like me want you regretted it.

Speaker 3 (01:29:02):
Listen.

Speaker 7 (01:29:02):
He said that he regrets not filming ship, not taking
pictures of ship, not living in that moment because you
think you're just thinking about the next moment. And it's true, man,
because it should be so fast paced and you hustling,
you forget to live in that moment right there, and
then then those moments are legendary, but you don't remember it.

Speaker 4 (01:29:20):
Like I'm not gonna lie, Like my Uncle Wires came
with me my whole beginning.

Speaker 1 (01:29:28):
Of Uncle the legend.

Speaker 4 (01:29:30):
Yeah, so he did.

Speaker 1 (01:29:32):
He did the War Report n R.

Speaker 4 (01:29:33):
E album, But at that time we thought it was
corny to take pictures. So this is the compenident around
the world with me. He got nothing to prove. You
don't guys complaining ticket stops.

Speaker 7 (01:29:45):
The way it was back then, you didn't take pictures,
you didn't take put up picture. I met you guys
at the first how can I be down?

Speaker 1 (01:29:50):
We got to drop? How could I be? I gotta
drive and there's a drop. My boy's getting to drop
from fame. And back then we didn't say.

Speaker 7 (01:29:57):
Can we take a picture, So the only picture we
got is him getting the drop from fame because we
would ask corner.

Speaker 2 (01:30:03):
You don't ask for a picture. Yeah, you don't post
for a picture, but we should. Yeah, y'all got man,
how could I be down?

Speaker 5 (01:30:13):
Angle you?

Speaker 3 (01:30:13):
I've been on that ship for when I was coming
up to broke.

Speaker 1 (01:30:16):
What not taking pictures? It wasn't It wasn't the thing
filming picture.

Speaker 5 (01:30:20):
Ask nobody for ship.

Speaker 2 (01:30:21):
Like man, I just in retrospect. We could have been
documentary history. We could have documentary pictures in video and
all kinds like that.

Speaker 4 (01:30:31):
That first World Tour went on. We got one picture ship.

Speaker 1 (01:30:36):
We got Amsterdam.

Speaker 4 (01:30:40):
Like this, like like I think it's one in Denmark, Copenhagen,
and like two in Germany. We were in a world tour.
We didn't document ship.

Speaker 3 (01:30:52):
Wow, we didn't know, like you said, we were just
in that in the moments.

Speaker 4 (01:30:57):
Right back to my original question, do you know how
you guys are to hip hop?

Speaker 1 (01:31:02):
Like there's not a party.

Speaker 4 (01:31:04):
If I'm in, If I'm not a party and they
don't play at least three to five mop songs, I don't.
I don't like this party. That's very fun out of here.
Yeah that's no.

Speaker 5 (01:31:16):
I don't like we're we're real, like, we're humble, right,
we're humble dudes, man, So we don't look at it
like you know, other people see it.

Speaker 3 (01:31:25):
It's just look look like your kids.

Speaker 5 (01:31:26):
At home, right, you're just dad, right, But you're not
noring my kids, don't. You know what I'm saying. You're
not normal, You're just that. So we just we humble dudes,
so we don't see it like that. We appreciate it,
but we don't you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:31:38):
We don't.

Speaker 6 (01:31:38):
We don't look at it like that.

Speaker 4 (01:31:40):
Well, the fact that you humble, I'm gonna stunt for you.
You guys are one of the best two man groups
all time.

Speaker 3 (01:31:47):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:31:52):
And by the way, I swear to God, I'm not
lying because, like I said, yeah, my friends, but I
tried to look for.

Speaker 1 (01:31:58):
A whack record, like try to like I really wanted
to be like, let me catch them slipping once I
couldn't find one. Yeah, I couldn't.

Speaker 4 (01:32:07):
I couldn't find a let me be honest with you,
I couldn't even find.

Speaker 1 (01:32:10):
A half assed record. Like every record to me, the
energy is unmatched.

Speaker 2 (01:32:15):
Yeah, like even like the one thing with MP is
that even up to beat is up to part. You
guys are right, that's the ill ship and individually, you
guys are monsters individually and then coming together out of control.

Speaker 4 (01:32:27):
Make some noise for that. And I do think y'all reheard.
I think, yeah, fright, we've never reheard. We're looking at
this camera, y'all ain't this.

Speaker 3 (01:32:40):
That's what's up. I shout you for bigging us up. Bro. Man,
I'm trying to being on motherfucking joints, but they'd be
like such and such such a such a stupid more.

Speaker 4 (01:33:08):
Yes, nah man, y'all been deserve your flowers, man. And
and like I said, man, it takes nothing away from
me to big up another another.

Speaker 3 (01:33:17):
People serve you you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (01:33:19):
To make me less of a man in no way
shape form of fashion. So let me ask you for
alarm blaze?

Speaker 3 (01:33:24):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:33:25):
Is that the eye of the tiger sample?

Speaker 3 (01:33:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:33:27):
Yeah, how to your clear, Rocky?

Speaker 3 (01:33:29):
I don't know la lais with the beat together.

Speaker 1 (01:33:32):
He was trying to get the dirt man from m
O P. Come on, come on, here is the dots
and the m O P.

Speaker 4 (01:33:46):
Over.

Speaker 1 (01:33:49):
Yeah, I'm telling you right now, drink sham.

Speaker 4 (01:33:56):
We're drinking you with you.

Speaker 3 (01:33:57):
Baby.

Speaker 1 (01:33:58):
Look, Billy is like, man, thisdrunk niggas next.

Speaker 5 (01:34:02):
When I made that beats, my man, you're gonna put your.

Speaker 1 (01:34:09):
No no, no, no no.

Speaker 12 (01:34:10):
What's my man name from the little the little white
boy they hanging with.

Speaker 1 (01:34:15):
Mugs back in the days. Alchemists Alchemist? Yeah, okay, he
hung out the studio with me that day. I mean
that beat shout Alchemist shot Alchemy my brother ship Alchemists,
definitely brother What be we talking about?

Speaker 3 (01:34:28):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (01:34:28):
So okay, okay, no, no, no, because he was all,
you know, you're a little bit on the road, but
you're a point though, hang on front. You drunk and
on point shopping.

Speaker 1 (01:34:36):
Hold on. So how the fuck he drunk? Point? How
the fuck did y'all clear? Rocky? So what I did
was I played it? You played it over? That's the
original eating.

Speaker 3 (01:34:46):
Sample I play.

Speaker 1 (01:34:47):
I played blood, sweat and tears. That's in the Belly movie.
If you and I played, I.

Speaker 12 (01:34:53):
Played keyboards, So what I did was I just took
the note and I played it.

Speaker 1 (01:34:58):
So that's nobody could clear a lot Rocky, I played it.
I played it so I did it as an interpolation.

Speaker 4 (01:35:03):
That's okay, that's the interpolation. Yeah, you want of them
smart niggas. You went to Harvard.

Speaker 1 (01:35:13):
There's a lot of Harvard.

Speaker 4 (01:35:16):
And then how to get hold on it?

Speaker 5 (01:35:19):
That record was already out full on, got the original.

Speaker 4 (01:35:23):
That the original without recorded it.

Speaker 1 (01:35:28):
Move over looking like a little bit, so you look
like Philly, you go over a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:35:34):
So okay, yes, the song was already you.

Speaker 1 (01:35:39):
Know what, there's a mixtape vision without hove on it.

Speaker 3 (01:35:42):
No, but.

Speaker 5 (01:35:44):
I remember I was doing the record, bro, I can't
have it, and this nigga in and D n.

Speaker 3 (01:35:48):
D studio and he hit in the record. Yeah he's like, yo,
it's a four long place only three. Y'all want the record?

Speaker 5 (01:35:55):
You know what I mean? That's that's what I remember.

Speaker 3 (01:35:58):
You remember.

Speaker 1 (01:35:59):
I want to know the story?

Speaker 3 (01:36:01):
Wait wait, wait, wait wait, I got.

Speaker 1 (01:36:04):
You just drunk Satan.

Speaker 3 (01:36:07):
So here here's here's what happened.

Speaker 1 (01:36:09):
Say the story.

Speaker 3 (01:36:09):
We all take a bathroom. This is what happened.

Speaker 5 (01:36:11):
Okay, The record was already out right again. Now Jah
is popping. Now he's coming up. He's coming up. They
still building Rockefeller me Tef Sam is already on the record.
Jay come to the studio about a week straight. Yo, Yo,

(01:36:32):
open the record, man, Can I get on the record?
Let me get on the record a week straight?

Speaker 3 (01:36:38):
No, this is this is right, okay, a week straight?

Speaker 1 (01:36:43):
He comes, he comes, he comes. This is still relativity
if I'm not wrong.

Speaker 11 (01:36:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:36:47):
He comes to the studio about a week straight and
asked to get on the record. Yo, he said. I'm
listening to him. I can see him standing in dn
D going Yo. Man, come on, man, open the record
up for me. Can you open the record from you
want to get on some want to ask you. He
killed Michael.

Speaker 6 (01:37:01):
So that's how he got on the record.

Speaker 3 (01:37:03):
He asked to be on the record, just just like that.

Speaker 1 (01:37:06):
So okay.

Speaker 12 (01:37:08):
So me and Dame was trying to do something called
Rock and Red and we were trying to bring m O.

Speaker 1 (01:37:17):
P and Rockefeller through Sony at the time. This is
early day distribution.

Speaker 12 (01:37:23):
Distribution and Dame Dad, We're trying to bring this back together.

Speaker 4 (01:37:29):
Leave me in page, drinkers, leave me in famous.

Speaker 1 (01:37:34):
Don't drink drinking all the liquorsability here's the deal.

Speaker 12 (01:37:39):
So, so j came in, he heard the record. He
wanted to get on the record. Premiere was mixing. Premier
mixed all our ship, by the way, just so you know, right,
So Premiere was mixing our ship.

Speaker 1 (01:37:48):
So the way I would convince Permit to mix.

Speaker 12 (01:37:50):
The record was I would go out and make the
record and bring it in and then blasted in Premiere's
ears and make it force him to mix the record.

Speaker 1 (01:37:59):
Is I do it?

Speaker 12 (01:38:00):
So so Premiere was mixing the record, and Jake came
in and him and Dame was like, yo, I need
to get on this record, and we boom. We let
him on the record. And then that's why he's verses last,
if you understand.

Speaker 3 (01:38:12):
Because like me and the Fenn said, the record was already.

Speaker 1 (01:38:18):
Was done. I don't remember, Bro, but I was.

Speaker 3 (01:38:21):
So much shit bro some ship.

Speaker 12 (01:38:23):
I just yo yo yo Bro. I wanted us and
Dame and Jay. I thought the best meant match for
us was Ja Dame m O P. And I thought
we was gonna be on Rocket Fuller. I thought that
was gonna be the match that was us for us.

Speaker 1 (01:38:39):
James was Brooklyn.

Speaker 12 (01:38:40):
He understood you know what I'm saying, Like most niggas
don't understand Brooklyn.

Speaker 1 (01:38:44):
We're all from Brownsville.

Speaker 12 (01:38:46):
I'm from Saratoga aven He from Saratoga.

Speaker 1 (01:38:47):
He's from Saratoga Avenue.

Speaker 12 (01:38:49):
I was like, yo, we gotta get with At first,
I want to give with Steve Rifkins, but he was
Wu Tang and you know, we love Rising and Wu Tang.
But they was like, listen, we're gonna smoke dust and
we're gonna do what we do.

Speaker 5 (01:39:05):
That.

Speaker 1 (01:39:07):
I'm only saying that because mehid Man said said, he
said he wanted from big that was a little bit
left for us, but we wanted. We were ready for that.
Either we wasn't ready for that.

Speaker 4 (01:39:18):
But I was like, Yo, never smoked dust.

Speaker 1 (01:39:25):
I'm from home school, like quarters Union Square, some sort
of dust.

Speaker 2 (01:39:35):
That's the way King told the story about us doing.

Speaker 12 (01:39:39):
You know, I owe you dances and all that kind
of stuff. And King told the story. But anyway, beyond that,
let me just say this. I thought the best match
was jay Z m O P. Because he understood and
I never believed that an artist could ever put out
another artist, and jay Z actually was able to put
out other artists that you know because I I can't

(01:40:00):
see another We're black, right, we all brothers.

Speaker 1 (01:40:03):
You black too, even though you're Cuban. We're black, right.

Speaker 12 (01:40:06):
I never seen we can't see a brother's getting rich
outside of our purview. Like you got to get rich
the way I get rich. If you don't get rich
to way I get rich, I don't understand you. You
know what I'm saying, so Jay, So Jay didn't understand
Jay was only when I thought that understood that.

Speaker 1 (01:40:22):
So Jay came to us after fall a long blaze.
He came to and said, yeah, let's do the deal.
And the only reason why we didn't do the deal
was because this man right here, and this is.

Speaker 12 (01:40:33):
The most honorable man I've ever met in my life,
Like he is such a solid stand up dude. He said,
the only reason I can't do this deal because I
can't understand how you would move forward and leave your
man out.

Speaker 1 (01:40:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:40:47):
Or in the same conversation with Dane two.

Speaker 1 (01:40:50):
I didn't get rocked Danes.

Speaker 5 (01:40:52):
Yeah, nigga, I was rocking a Rockefeller chain in Harlem
on one and twenty fifty, the blasting ether out the
motherfucking I got the big seven niggas, So that.

Speaker 1 (01:41:07):
Fire deal never happened.

Speaker 2 (01:41:09):
Then never officially happened because it seemed like y'all were
on the label.

Speaker 1 (01:41:13):
You know, we were on the label.

Speaker 7 (01:41:14):
Because I got white labels MP on Rockefellers.

Speaker 1 (01:41:17):
We were on the label.

Speaker 12 (01:41:18):
We signed the deal with Rockah we left Sony and
then we split and then once Rockefeller split, we had
to go because we.

Speaker 4 (01:41:28):
I was on Rockefeller too. They never gave me a contract,
but were really I was never really on Rock.

Speaker 1 (01:41:36):
I never signed shot the Freestown in the lot.

Speaker 4 (01:41:43):
They was so out with at that time.

Speaker 1 (01:41:45):
They was like, you're on Rockefellers, Like, all right, cool
on a rock they know what that was the deal.
I was changed.

Speaker 4 (01:41:51):
I got a change, we got records.

Speaker 1 (01:41:54):
I got records record Feller too.

Speaker 4 (01:41:56):
Yeah technically not.

Speaker 5 (01:41:57):
But let me off the record on Rockefeller.

Speaker 1 (01:42:00):
I actually condo was, but they got to put the
logo on it.

Speaker 4 (01:42:05):
But in all actuality, that was the Death Jam record.
That was the illest me and I ever had with Dame.
That but jay Z jay Z was like yol technically
because you know, I don't know if y'all remember when
they broke up. There was boys on Death Jam and
it was like Dame dashboard and it was like the
jay Z board. I remember that, and every day my

(01:42:25):
name would be on the Dame dashboard and Chris Lighty
would come and erase it.

Speaker 1 (01:42:30):
And put my ship on the jab board.

Speaker 4 (01:42:32):
But the crazy ship is what we didn't though, was
I had a mean and he basically told me, He's like,
you're not on the Rockefeller. You never signed the Rockefeller contract.

Speaker 1 (01:42:44):
You never you never did it.

Speaker 4 (01:42:45):
You're technically on death Jams, which means you're on with
me anyway. So I need you to uh respect your
contract that my life.

Speaker 7 (01:43:00):
Did.

Speaker 12 (01:43:00):
They did the first time ever in history where somebody
owned their business and got a deal. So they didn't
have a deal with deaf Jam. They had to deal
with Universal. They were partners with Universal, and then they
used deaf Jam as a marketing company. That is the
first thing that ever happened. It never happened before in
hip hop music history. They are the most incredible people

(01:43:22):
I've ever met, Dame J and Biggs.

Speaker 1 (01:43:24):
Now Jay took it to another level.

Speaker 12 (01:43:27):
And the only reason why we didn't go with Jay
was because and Billy said, this is because I don't
understand why you would leave Dad.

Speaker 1 (01:43:35):
That's what he said. That we don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:43:39):
Yeah, but the point is we actually built something from the.

Speaker 5 (01:43:43):
Bound If you could, if you could just walk out
and do drink Champ somewhere else without this man, or
you could walk out and do drink Champ somewhere else
without this man.

Speaker 3 (01:43:56):
I'm nervous of you. That makes me nervous.

Speaker 1 (01:43:59):
Now let me give you my my opinion.

Speaker 12 (01:44:00):
You see, I'm saying I wanted to go with Jay
because Jay was Brooklyn and he understood me.

Speaker 1 (01:44:05):
And Jay said to me, yeah, yeah, we going Brooklyn.

Speaker 12 (01:44:09):
And that Jay said to me, Ja said to me,
I got y'all back.

Speaker 1 (01:44:13):
But I understood what Billy meant. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 12 (01:44:16):
But Jay said to me, to this day, I don't
regret it because whatever we do, we do.

Speaker 1 (01:44:22):
You understand I'm saying. But all I'm saying.

Speaker 12 (01:44:24):
To you is, I am I think jay Z was
the right move to take. But I understood why that
was legitimate. Yeah, yeah, you Billy's Billy. Billy's first of
all MP for life. It don't even matter. You can't
even speak on it, you know, you can't say nothing
about it. So if Billy has any apprehensions, then we

(01:44:46):
going with billy. If fame has apprehension, We're going with fame,
your MP for life. We're all from Saratoga Avenue, we
from the hill.

Speaker 1 (01:44:55):
That's real. We are m op like.

Speaker 12 (01:44:58):
You don't ever see me, but when you see billion fame,
you see me.

Speaker 3 (01:45:02):
It is what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:45:03):
I think it makes a noise. You're gonna say, I
would say, noor is my nigga, nigga, my nigga.

Speaker 4 (01:45:11):
Look makes a noise for you. What's your favorite thing?
Making the record or performing.

Speaker 5 (01:45:19):
The record before performing, before performed.

Speaker 3 (01:45:23):
I say making the record, bro, really yeah, because you're
going that motherfucker you I'm going there with nothing sometimes
out the ether, yeah, I'm going there with nothing when
you form start the ship out yeah yeah, yeah, I
want to do the video to it.

Speaker 1 (01:45:38):
I know, famous telling something else.

Speaker 3 (01:45:43):
You said making the record, because I like to go
in there with nothing and you come out with that ship.

Speaker 1 (01:45:49):
Now that's just magic.

Speaker 3 (01:45:50):
And you play when you played a hundred times that night.
You know you guys, you know, I'm you.

Speaker 4 (01:45:55):
Know, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:45:57):
Can I say something? You're not giving slap as his
prop says a producer, Hold, I got, I got, I'm
going for his ice. I'm going there.

Speaker 4 (01:46:10):
I'm going I'm getting there.

Speaker 1 (01:46:11):
You did Cold His Ice?

Speaker 3 (01:46:12):
Yeah, I did Cold His Ice.

Speaker 1 (01:46:15):
Let's get back, go back to that.

Speaker 4 (01:46:16):
But just I want you to finish your thought about
when you when just now just.

Speaker 3 (01:46:19):
Going there, just with nothing. You got an idea of
what you want to do, and you you take your time,
you put that ship together. It's almost like math, bro,
when you add that ship up and you it's math. Basically,
you build that ship up, man, you.

Speaker 5 (01:46:35):
Know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:46:36):
And you and you, Yeah, you come out with that motherfucker, Bros.
You and you, and you play it back the final
the final touches on that ship. You in love with it.

Speaker 12 (01:46:46):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (01:46:46):
You can hear that motherfucker from right away. You're like, yeah,
that's that bitch.

Speaker 5 (01:46:49):

Speaker 3 (01:46:50):
I got him. I got him this time. That that
feeling right there is an amazing feeling. I love performing,
but just creating.

Speaker 4 (01:46:57):
That record as the ship to me, Bro, you said
you can pick performing.

Speaker 1 (01:47:01):
Can you play your version?

Speaker 5 (01:47:03):
I like the energy on the stage. If you listen
to MPI Records stage, it's almost like the design for
performance is they're commanding, you.

Speaker 3 (01:47:16):

Speaker 4 (01:47:16):
So I wanted to hear you say that.

Speaker 5 (01:47:18):
Yeah, yeah, that's what it is, is that the records
are designed for performance. And I don't know if it's
something that we do consciousness, right, I think it's just
kind of happens, you know what I mean. And then
that energy. I can remember getting on the stage for
the first time where I was just.

Speaker 1 (01:47:31):
The hype man, right, hype man, right, that's how it started.

Speaker 6 (01:47:36):
That's how it started.

Speaker 5 (01:47:37):
So I was just the hype man and we were at.

Speaker 6 (01:47:41):
The Muse.

Speaker 5 (01:47:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and I got on the stage. We
had this whole routine, he go, yo, because I had
never ever been on the stage, had never been in
the studio, none of this ship you go yo. I
just needed you to go out and do this when
we go through it a couple of times a week
before that I get out there. When I walked on
the stage, I ain't never seen that many people in
front of me before.

Speaker 6 (01:48:03):
I forget the whole routine, right, I forget the.

Speaker 5 (01:48:06):
Whole routine before.

Speaker 1 (01:48:14):
Can I tell the truth? Here here's the deal.

Speaker 12 (01:48:16):
Uh Fame called me and said, I got a hype man.
His name is Billy, but he dances.

Speaker 13 (01:48:25):
You did, you said, wait, no, let me try the story,
he said, And he said, I go, what do you
want to call this thing we're doing?

Speaker 12 (01:48:38):
He says, I don't know what you want to call it.
I said, what do you call the guys you hang
out with on one five four five on the corner
of Saint Marc's Saratoga. He said, we're the mash ou Posse.
I go, okay, let's call an m O P. I said,
what are you gonna do with Billy? He said, he's
my partner from now on and we're gonna split everything
down the middle.

Speaker 1 (01:48:59):
That's what he said. That's what.

Speaker 6 (01:49:05):
So that's it's when the hype man get upgraded.

Speaker 5 (01:49:08):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:49:12):
There really wasn't no flavor flames like I was saying.
I got on the.

Speaker 5 (01:49:15):
Stage, I forgot the whole fucking routine. But that energy
from the stage, like bro Bro Bill stopped lying, Bro,
you was rhyming before I was rhyming.

Speaker 1 (01:49:26):
Nigga, ya need to make it. I was running first.

Speaker 3 (01:49:33):
I wasn't a bad mother fuck you were a bad.

Speaker 1 (01:49:38):
So let me give you m O P.

Speaker 13 (01:49:40):
The m O P is the engine, the horn, the vision.

Speaker 1 (01:49:45):
That's all it is.

Speaker 4 (01:49:46):
Take a shot for that.

Speaker 6 (01:49:47):
That's all ship ship know.

Speaker 1 (01:49:50):
I am.

Speaker 5 (01:49:51):
I am my a beilieve, I am my ability Billy
Billy been.

Speaker 3 (01:49:55):
Doing this thing since wavy or like I like, I
studied this ship, bro. He used to get busy since
back in the off the.

Speaker 4 (01:50:02):
Head did you used to go to the same high
school with Buster around still no wet high school.

Speaker 5 (01:50:11):
Early I went to Tomas Jefferson High School.

Speaker 1 (01:50:17):
Shout out old y'all niggas that boys show y'all.

Speaker 5 (01:50:20):
Yeah yeah look yeah so yeah not not not a
high school thing really just.

Speaker 3 (01:50:25):
Wady nigga public school. He took them off this public
school right five seventy eight, yeah eight, all the way back.

Speaker 1 (01:50:37):
Yeah, Bill.

Speaker 3 (01:50:38):
Bill always been witty with that ship off the head,
you know what I mean, in the whole way, ship
just hanging out, you know, niggas doing what they.

Speaker 5 (01:50:44):
Do in the whole way.

Speaker 3 (01:50:46):
He always had that ship.

Speaker 4 (01:50:47):
Because copone is like book smart and I'm not.

Speaker 5 (01:50:49):
I don't like it now, I wouldn't wigged. This shop
is reversed. You were the original books smart, original book
smart somewhere.

Speaker 11 (01:51:04):
Bro.

Speaker 5 (01:51:04):
But you know, you know, for me, hip hop like
so I go way back with hip hop. I remember
my my sister's birthday, my father brought a record home
and a record player. Now you know, we all grew
up listening to the old J Temptations, all of that ship,
and there was this sugar Hill Gang record, right, and

(01:51:25):
from that moment on like fell in love with hip hop.
But even before, like it feels like a week or
two maybe if you know so.

Speaker 1 (01:51:32):
Long ago, but would be wrong.

Speaker 12 (01:51:33):
I tell you that your sister beat up l COOJ
and Queens.

Speaker 5 (01:51:39):
Story.

Speaker 3 (01:51:39):
Yeah what are you doing? Get this nigg out of here?
What are you doing?

Speaker 1 (01:51:47):
Yo?

Speaker 5 (01:51:51):
But anyway, so when when when that record came out?
When my sister got that record, is when I fell
in love with hip hop. So maybe a few weeks
before that ll cool J right, So you don't know, but.

Speaker 3 (01:52:06):
Nobody really knows.

Speaker 5 (01:52:06):
But I was born in Jamaica Hospital, Right, I'm a Brooklyn,
but I was born in.

Speaker 6 (01:52:10):
Jamaica Hospital hospital. Yea very flying.

Speaker 5 (01:52:14):
My mother was was My family is from Queens, so
my mother was going to visit my grandmother and went
into labor. So that's how I end up with you know,
my Queen's Queen's roots that ship. But fall back as
I I remember, I remember living on Farmers Boulevard with
the black rock.

Speaker 4 (01:52:34):
It's red Black and Green Rock. Yeah, uh peace.

Speaker 5 (01:52:39):
I remember being mesmerized by this dude that I've seen
other dudes rapping ship like that, but I'm mesmerized by
this dude. He's we had the Vegas then, you know,
fucking big vegas speakers and ship. He's running across these
speakers and he's going, Ladies, love cool J.

Speaker 6 (01:52:56):
L L cool J.

Speaker 5 (01:52:57):
That that that that that right, I'm like ship, just
the fly as hell, whatever you go on.

Speaker 3 (01:53:03):
He did.

Speaker 6 (01:53:04):
He did fly his hell, fly as hell.

Speaker 5 (01:53:07):
Anyway, About a week later is when he put his
very first record out.

Speaker 6 (01:53:11):
But from that moment radio yeah exactly.

Speaker 5 (01:53:14):
But from that moment when I seen him do that,
That's why I'm so stuck on performance right, like the
way he performed and fucking what was the what was
the video? I'm bad That ship is exactly what he
was doing, exactly what I tried.

Speaker 3 (01:53:31):
It on the stage that Nigga put that nigga practiced
before he did that video. That nigga in the mirror,
that motherfucker doing.

Speaker 1 (01:53:41):
Yeah, that's not no random sh later, but I'm trying
to trigger the stories his sister beat up.

Speaker 5 (01:53:48):
No, no, no, no, no, that's not true. El and
My sister got into an altercation at school. They went
to two thirty eight together, right, that is in Queens
yeayeah on the hillside. Cool.

Speaker 3 (01:54:00):
Yeah, So.

Speaker 5 (01:54:02):
I don't know what it was over, but my sister
was a bully.

Speaker 1 (01:54:08):
She was a bully. She was she.

Speaker 3 (01:54:15):
Was a bully.

Speaker 5 (01:54:16):
So she bullied the school, right, so I guess it
was her turn to try.

Speaker 6 (01:54:19):
To bully l This is what I think. I don't know.
I just know she was bully. My older sister.

Speaker 5 (01:54:26):
Shout out the friend, I love you, shout the fresh,
shout the fresh shot.

Speaker 1 (01:54:32):
Most beautiful.

Speaker 5 (01:54:32):
But yeah, so they they they got into it in
the class. I don't know what it was over, but
they got into a fight or whatever whatever happened. I
don't know if he beat Fraying up or she beat
him up. But it was so long ago, you know
what I mean, l ain't no sucker, because when it
was when it was time, like when my brothers wanted
to get involved in all that ship that nigga came
to the crib him and cut creator him and Earl

(01:54:53):
or him and a Bob Cat or whoever. Yo, shorty, Yeah,
he'll tell your brother come outside of the fight, all right, cool,
cool bro yo bro tied down there, all.

Speaker 3 (01:55:03):
Right, cool. They go around the corner they fight, and
she was like, clockwork.

Speaker 4 (01:55:06):
Don't you go and Todd that's what his name.

Speaker 1 (01:55:09):
That was his name? That was that was his name?
Like how you slipped that?

Speaker 3 (01:55:13):
And it was, you know, tied downstairs? Come on, said,
come on down here the fight.

Speaker 2 (01:55:16):
What's crazy is you asked about the high school, like
the hip hop school and it's still.

Speaker 4 (01:55:20):
It's still.

Speaker 3 (01:55:22):
Right right, so crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:55:24):
This was like like he would show up like every Wednesday,
every Thursday and ship like clockwork, him coming downside.

Speaker 6 (01:55:28):
Let's fight.

Speaker 5 (01:55:29):
It was beefing every week with this lasted for maybe
a summer or some ship, you know, just fighting his ship.

Speaker 1 (01:55:35):

Speaker 4 (01:55:35):
I watched says, how.

Speaker 5 (01:55:43):
We see him now taking everything now, a big strong
mouty always been like that, man.

Speaker 1 (01:55:48):
So let's go.

Speaker 3 (01:55:49):
Let's bless bless bro ship.

Speaker 5 (01:55:52):
Excuse me. My first time.

Speaker 3 (01:55:53):
Meeting LL, my brother was locked up Marsie Correctional facility. Right,
I want to visit to see my brother and ship,
and l eld is on the visit, Wow, visiting his
homeboy and my mom had a crush on L. Not
don't check the funk up.

Speaker 7 (01:56:21):
Let's just say every woman in America had a crush
on l Right, let's just say.

Speaker 1 (01:56:27):
Alone, bro.

Speaker 3 (01:56:28):
Yeah, yeah, we go over there. We took a flick
and I left the flick with my brother, Bro. I
never had to flick again. Brother, the nigga came home. Like,
where the is the picture? I wish I could show
that ship to this day, you know what I mean?

(01:56:49):
But l L, if you're listening, Marshie correctional facilities, that's the.

Speaker 4 (01:56:54):
Big from l L being like, you know, going to
see his people in prison.

Speaker 3 (01:57:02):
That's real ship.

Speaker 1 (01:57:04):
The point I was saying that we wanted you to
get to your point that l was a real dude
from the beginning.

Speaker 12 (01:57:13):
He never ever like you know, when you talk about
him being a superstar now, he was always the street.

Speaker 1 (01:57:18):
But who doubted that.

Speaker 7 (01:57:19):
I think, you know, yeah, we see the star now
it's a mega star. But I mean I think people
in hip didn't doubt.

Speaker 3 (01:57:25):
He's a real person. He's a real person.

Speaker 5 (01:57:29):
Regards to how many TV shows he's on, how many
big records of big toys he does, He's a real person.
He's one of the few people that I can say
in the industry that is exactly the same him and
that fucking method man.

Speaker 3 (01:57:42):
That's my niggah.

Speaker 5 (01:57:44):
Yeah so much.

Speaker 1 (01:57:45):
I love that dude. Get your weed, do it. I
got friends of like that. But but when he smoked regularly,
he smoked Regie Midler.

Speaker 4 (01:58:04):
He can't smoke that the guy. Yeah, yeh, I'm ready,
I'm ready. But let me I tell you, I tell you.
L told me one of the most valuable lessons world.

Speaker 5 (01:58:19):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (01:58:20):
I was on tour with l I was on the
top forty tour with l Jah Rule Shawn T.

Speaker 1 (01:58:28):
They all had private jets.

Speaker 4 (01:58:29):
I'm still on a regular plane, gotta get it. And
I had a prayer room, had his room, and then
he had his family room. He had a prayer room,
a room just to pray, and then he had like
a room like shadow box because.

Speaker 3 (01:58:51):
He lay or something.

Speaker 4 (01:58:53):
And then he had left, and then he had a
room for his family. So we would go everywhere every night.
These girls are going crazy. Hell Hell was throwing out
roses on the stage, throwing out every girl in the
fucking crowd.

Speaker 1 (01:59:08):
Wants to take all down.

Speaker 4 (01:59:09):
But Hell goes back to the room to see his
wife and I'm like still young at this time.

Speaker 3 (01:59:14):
This is about.

Speaker 4 (01:59:15):
It's about twenty years ago, so I'm still young. So
I'm like, oh, what are you doing.

Speaker 7 (01:59:22):
You're leaving a lot of good things the demons.

Speaker 4 (01:59:27):
He's like, ill, NOORI I bring my wife with me everywhere,
and I don't get in trouble nowhere I go.

Speaker 3 (01:59:33):
That's right. Good ship, good ship, good ship.

Speaker 1 (01:59:38):
I take that advice with me to this day.

Speaker 3 (01:59:40):
I'm everywhere. You know, you ain't gonna do no dumb.

Speaker 4 (01:59:43):
Ship, fall into some dumb ship when you get your lady.

Speaker 1 (01:59:46):

Speaker 4 (01:59:47):
So that's right. So I gave me that. Man, that's right.
A friend of mine is here Mitched told me I
gave that to him today, and I was, I was.
That was like a great compliment for me, Like he
was like, you know, I liked I kind of like
that rubbed off on me to him, and I kind
of I like that ship. I like, I like being loyal.

(02:00:07):
Seal is actually great.

Speaker 1 (02:00:11):
Gary.

Speaker 12 (02:00:11):
I got a question from the MLP website. They called
and they asked this question. They knew we were coming
and they said this to you. They said, it's no
done making records? Are you done making records? I refuse
to answer that question. I'm gonna take a shot.

Speaker 1 (02:00:27):
Answer in the next episode. They're like, make sure you
ask him that question. I can't. I don't.

Speaker 4 (02:00:37):
I don't think once you I think once you make music,
I can't stop.

Speaker 1 (02:00:42):
You can't stop even if you do it on your own. Y.

Speaker 3 (02:00:46):
Yeah, like even.

Speaker 4 (02:00:47):
Because I sincerely believe that, I know this sounds so cliche,
I sincerely believed that I would have still rapped if
I wasn't making money. I sincerely believe that. I mean
that wouldn't have made it my profession, but I would
have still rap.

Speaker 5 (02:01:01):
New music on the way and.

Speaker 1 (02:01:05):
It sounds good. It's sound good you part two. No,
we're doing one video.

Speaker 4 (02:01:12):
I'm gonna make sure who owned those rights, because well,
as long as we can benefit of those rights. As
if we can't, let's make a new record. Let's make
a new record because are y'all guys getting back yard
Master's We're gonna work on it. That's what everyone from
all that can I speak to that how many years
it was your first album?

Speaker 1 (02:01:33):
Very close?

Speaker 4 (02:01:34):
Getting everything everything, not just the first album.

Speaker 12 (02:01:38):
Yeah, I don't want to say too much because let
me just say this to you.

Speaker 1 (02:01:43):
Yeah, I got you drunk.

Speaker 3 (02:01:45):
I'm sorry like a good drunk.

Speaker 1 (02:01:46):
I'm gonna say it like this, Billy, is that you're
me twenty years ago. I'm gonna say it like this.

Speaker 12 (02:01:53):
We don't we don't believe in outing labels and all
all this bullshit.

Speaker 1 (02:01:59):
That's not our We do our business.

Speaker 12 (02:02:02):
We accept our hand, that your adult and we work
it out.

Speaker 1 (02:02:05):
This is our bodega, all right. We do what we do.
Mop is Mop.

Speaker 12 (02:02:10):
But what we what I know is happening in the
next year or two, is that we will regain we
will regain everything that's owed to us and we will
move forward because Mop is MOP and not very many
people have that ability because they've all lost all of that.

(02:02:31):
But one thing about us, we love our space. This
is Billy and Fame and Uncle AI's. We do what
we do and we're happy with what we do. Do
you know where your masters at?

Speaker 3 (02:02:45):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (02:02:45):
I do.

Speaker 12 (02:02:46):
Okay, we have control of everything that's happening. And just
no disrespect to any label because I'm not here. I'm
not going to take a label's money and go You
don't You're not accountable for the money I say. I'm
saying at the end at the end of the day. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
I got you. At the end of the day, we

(02:03:08):
are good. We are very good, and we are very
happy to be who we are. But at the end
of the day, we know that the clock is your
best friend in this situation, and the clock has been
MP's friend. We sat back, we chilled, We didn't complain,
we didn't bitch. We said, Okay, time is going to

(02:03:30):
be our friend, and at the end of the day,
time is helping.

Speaker 1 (02:03:34):
Us to do what we need to do. So yeah,
we'll get it all back. There you go to get
it all back. But no, direspect anybody. You know some
of these piece of ship you need to be dispectful. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 3 (02:03:45):
I mean most of them, most of.

Speaker 1 (02:03:51):
That's a good.

Speaker 11 (02:03:55):
No.

Speaker 1 (02:03:55):
I'm I know I'm not wrong. No no, no, you're
wrong in this space, meaning that there's not pieces of
ship record labels.

Speaker 12 (02:04:02):
There are pieces of shit, okay, banks and pieces of
ship real estate comings to pieces of ship at the
end of the day, Mop owns, mop. That's all I
can say about that.

Speaker 4 (02:04:13):
That's why. No, but you got to realize. One of
the things that I learned when I got jerked myself
right or when I came into this game. Is some
of these people could die, be reborn and then they
still not own them their masters.

Speaker 5 (02:04:32):
Yeah, well that's how the rite the music industry was
was designed like that right for them, because we were
trying to get out the hood, right, that's what that's us, right,
But the music business itself, no, it was design. It
was a record for the record companies to get rich
and the artists to become the sleeping.

Speaker 7 (02:04:51):
Before that, think about it, the mobs in the sense
started the music industry. So you already know it started
backwards like.

Speaker 1 (02:05:00):
Like because he was he was management.

Speaker 12 (02:05:01):
Right, I'm not a manager, but I am the the
the executor of the situation.

Speaker 4 (02:05:07):
Because that's the reason why people didn't they didn't like
people like him is because you know, no, no, because
they wanted to pick your manager, you know what I mean.
They wanted they wanted to have your.

Speaker 1 (02:05:18):
Manager of their inside guys.

Speaker 4 (02:05:20):
Special on hand, Specials said that he sold his publisher.
Didn't didn't know it to one half is to the
record label and the other half of his manager. His
manager couldn't have been for Brooklyn, right. That manager was
a plant that they planted there.

Speaker 1 (02:05:35):
Man, you're a lawyer, he said, I think it was
his manager. Yeah, manager, I believe. So that's what I'm saying.
That's how it was back then, right, Yeah, Yeah, that
was the early three sixties.

Speaker 5 (02:05:44):
Right, and it was just yeah, it was designed for
the fuck over man, and like you said, we were
just trying to get out the hood. So a lot
of artists would just walk into It's like nigga, when
a nigga say, he go, twenty thousand dollars, you coming
from nothing and me as.

Speaker 4 (02:05:57):
Young as you were, right, being as young as you,
you got twenty I'm just saying.

Speaker 3 (02:06:00):
I'm just saying, twenty.

Speaker 5 (02:06:02):
Grands a shiploads of money at that time.

Speaker 3 (02:06:10):
But we didn't. We didn't.

Speaker 5 (02:06:11):
You know, that was a lot of money for some
young kids, you know what I'm saying. For most people,
that's a lot of money. So it's like, you know,
we're about the you know, we're about to get this
and everybody seeing tomorrow. Even though niggas don't look into
the future, they always think about it's gonna be better tomorrow.
It's gonna better tomorrow, it's gonna be biggest job.

Speaker 1 (02:06:31):
If you had a half good lawyer.

Speaker 4 (02:06:33):
That first deal that I signed, they told me like,
this is not the best deal. But I was like, yo,
I could get out the hood for this. You know
what I'm saying, Like I kind of almost knew, but
I didn't know what publishing was. That's like somebody saying, Yo,
I'm gonna take your oxygen, Like I wouldn't sell my oxygen.
But then somebody comes to you and say, I'm gonna
take your what is it?

Speaker 1 (02:06:53):
H two O? What is it?

Speaker 3 (02:06:57):
You know whatever?

Speaker 4 (02:06:58):
It's H two old something like that. You're like, you don't,
ah c O is like you to give me something
for my own you know, don't.

Speaker 1 (02:07:02):
I don't funk with H two oh. So when they
said for publishing, I'm like, take this ship.

Speaker 4 (02:07:08):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (02:07:09):
I don't even know what that is.

Speaker 4 (02:07:10):
And then when I found out publishing, I could leave
that to my kids for the rest of their life
and they can live perpetuity for the rest of their
fucking life.

Speaker 1 (02:07:17):
How to fuck to somebody else own that ship, the
caro and how can a kid like you even wrap
your head around that at that age? For labels on
top of.

Speaker 12 (02:07:26):
That, so some of them, my job is to make
sure that your Highness like meque quashime and all of
the family of m O p for the history until perpetuity,
will have the control and the rights of m O
p unto perpetuity until the history is gone.

Speaker 1 (02:07:49):
And that's what I'm here for. And I understand that
it's a hard fight.

Speaker 7 (02:07:52):
I know what perpetuity means. That means forever, forever, ever, ever.
And you can't forget in perpetuity because they use in
the universe. Yeah yeah, But my job is that MOP
owns MOP forever. This is al Bodega. We own our

(02:08:14):
bodega forever.

Speaker 14 (02:08:15):
And listen, at the end of the day, no matter
what happens Billy Dan's kids and Fames Son and whatever son,
I know he's working on something. Whatever he gets own
MOP forever and ever and ever.

Speaker 12 (02:08:35):
And trust me, it's not an easy fight. You know,
it's not easy. You know what I'm up against, you understand.
But at the end of the day, my job is
to make sure that they own it forever. I'm from
the same street they from. I'm from four point thirty Saratoga, Brownsville, Brooklyn.
When I came and got fame that day, his brother
had just got killed and I came to him and

(02:08:56):
I said, Yo, bro, what can you do, he's I
can rap I said, Well, listen, my job is to
make sure for the rest of your life, I'm gonna
be there for you. I'm gonna hold you down. And
at the end of the day, that's what I've done
for thirty years. Mop thirty motherfucking years.

Speaker 4 (02:09:15):
But you know, isn't that after thirty years you get
your masters back, isn't it.

Speaker 12 (02:09:20):
Yeah, we own a few of our records now, and
a few more years we'll own the rest of them.

Speaker 1 (02:09:26):
So we just kill them. They're nervous, trust.

Speaker 3 (02:09:28):
Me, Yeah, bastards.

Speaker 5 (02:09:30):
But you know, I mean, you always need somebody that
you can trust, right in any situation, right, but especially
something like this, like you need to have somebody around
you that that understands you, understands where you need to be,
understand how hard you work, understand the ship.

Speaker 3 (02:09:51):
That you had to go through.

Speaker 5 (02:09:52):
Right, everybody's not gonna be one hundred percent with you,
you know what I'm saying Me people people always look
at me. I got this thing about me where some
people that know me go, Nigga, you're always paranoid or
you're always worried. Right, I'm never I'm never paranoid, right,
I just don't trust the motherfucker, right, So I don't
trust people I don't know, right, because it's you know

(02:10:14):
how they say innocent until proven guilty. No, nigga, you
a snake until proven not a snake. You know the world,
the world exactly. So people tell people tell me like
I'm backward to most people, but it's the actual truth,
you know what I'm saying. So I'm not, like I said,
I'm not a good gambler. I'm not willing to put
up something that I'm unrecoupable, right, my life, my freedom,

(02:10:39):
my feelings, my anything, when that comes to me, I'm
not putting it up if it's unrecoupable, you know what
I'm saying. So I'm not I'm not a good gamma, bro,
I'm not. I'm not into that. So anybody like now,
I'm comfortable with everybody in the room and ship, right,
But when I first walked in, it was just you'll
has and then I had to figure feel everybody else
side of the room.

Speaker 6 (02:10:59):
So that's that's just how it is. So and business
has got to be the same ship.

Speaker 5 (02:11:03):
You don't know the mofucker until you know mofucker, So
you always be on top of your ship from day one, and.

Speaker 4 (02:11:08):
Let me ask you, why did you stop drinking?

Speaker 5 (02:11:11):
I don't like it no more, nor I think these
niggas taking you know, they take care of it anyway,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (02:11:18):
I don't like it.

Speaker 6 (02:11:19):
No, I don't like being high like I hadn't.

Speaker 5 (02:11:21):
I hadn't smoked weed, and fucking yeah, I stopped twenty
five years or something.

Speaker 1 (02:11:27):
Died on the stage. That's why smoking ice spice? Well, no, no, no,
I would no, what the fuck is ice spice?

Speaker 4 (02:11:35):
I'm asking stop smoking. I don't like a good tea,
don't I don't like I don't like the feeling. I
don't like not being in control. Does it make it
makes nervous, it make you anxiety.

Speaker 6 (02:11:47):
At one time it did hit me like that. But
for me, all it takes is one thing to happen.

Speaker 5 (02:11:51):
Right, And for niggas, say, if I go to the doctor,
the nigga like, yo, you're smoking too much.

Speaker 3 (02:11:55):
It's over. That's it.

Speaker 5 (02:11:56):
Right.

Speaker 3 (02:11:57):
If they go, Yo, you're drinking too much, it's over.
That's it.

Speaker 1 (02:11:59):
First, norma, you're talking to a Brownsville gun slinger. But
at the end of the day, you kind of want
him not to get hot.

Speaker 5 (02:12:08):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (02:12:08):
I don't like the feeling, but I don't not even
smoking smoking weed. I started going crazy, Bro, I don't know.
Somebody slipping. Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:12:18):
You smoked a dirty bag.

Speaker 3 (02:12:20):
I don't know what happened. Bro, I know I smoked
that ship one day and I was just you see
nigga having a conversation on the I don't know. I
think I grew up with bullshit, you know what I mean.
And if you smoke, it enhances it. And you see
a nigga whispering on the side, You're like, you get paranoid.
That ship kept happening. I said, no, I'm gonna I'm
gonna only smoke when I'm home. And I got my

(02:12:40):
little son with your baby, I'm I'm like, damn, I can't.
You're not just feel weig you know what I mean?
Like I just had a I had to cut it off. Bro,
I don't want to be hot. I don't want to
be I don't want to be drunk. I took I
took last year. I took two pools my homeboy and
he passed the joint. Shout to you, Anthony.

Speaker 1 (02:12:58):
I don't know, Damn, I want to know.

Speaker 3 (02:13:03):
Don't get that nigga enough, get out of here.

Speaker 4 (02:13:05):
Bro, we want two lines. I'm like, oh, I'm kidding,
big shot. Yeah, I to you, I took an IVY
just to get drunk today.

Speaker 1 (02:13:23):
She took an ivy to make you get the ivy
and makes the whole difference. You can't. I understood, you drink, Bro,
it's not before after you drink and before prevention. That
means you were drinking yesterday and then you need to iman.

Speaker 4 (02:13:40):
Yeah to the hell that day. Let a shot to that.

Speaker 1 (02:13:46):
You know, any gigs in the building, any gigs in
the building.

Speaker 4 (02:13:49):
He's the one that fight out what I ain't smoke
Switschesky's white ouse cousin.

Speaker 1 (02:13:55):
When you rolled up in that yeahs Boris rows up
to that. I got old school lungs.

Speaker 4 (02:14:00):
His damn near Philly. You know, white al. But you
used to smoke. When you smoke, you look in the front.
You look like a dutch Master.

Speaker 3 (02:14:08):
Nigga.

Speaker 4 (02:14:09):
I did the Dutch dust Master when you smoked, You
did dust Master.

Speaker 3 (02:14:12):
Break that bitch down, cut it over, however, alphaductor, you know.

Speaker 1 (02:14:20):
That vegas the green one, no ductor.

Speaker 4 (02:14:24):
Yeah, I ordered a dutch Master in l a one
night ordered one like because I was on like seven
eleven and it was like the whole seven eleven stop,
it's like you from New York. I was like, I
didn't realize that's masters straight New York ship. Yeah yeah,
are y'all ow y'all New York ship? Always okay?

Speaker 3 (02:14:46):
Always? Is it?

Speaker 1 (02:14:47):
Tims in the summertime?

Speaker 3 (02:14:48):
I got tims right now.

Speaker 1 (02:15:01):
Right just beeping brocly.

Speaker 7 (02:15:04):
Hold up, we gotta put them on some Miami time, man.
Hold on, I brought yes, yes, I gotta get.

Speaker 3 (02:15:09):
Out of.

Speaker 1 (02:15:11):
Got let us for you.

Speaker 3 (02:15:14):
Come on. Every him sits in the house, Bro, I
ain't walking outside.

Speaker 1 (02:15:28):
Tea shirts for I know you, lady late, I got you,
I got you good man.

Speaker 5 (02:15:33):
Yeah, slippers outside, bro, that's the New York thing.

Speaker 1 (02:15:38):
Let me start saying A son who leaving the crib?
He having slippers on?

Speaker 5 (02:15:42):
Like, where are you going?

Speaker 1 (02:15:44):
He's like, I'm going to basketball in Miami. Bump.

Speaker 5 (02:15:50):
That's crazy. Thank you brother.

Speaker 1 (02:15:51):
Can I say how proud of I am of you
guys for the work you put in. Thank you man.

Speaker 12 (02:15:57):
You guys doing fans. No, I'm proud of you guys. Man,
and you guys have done some amazing work. I saw
the Mike Tyson interview and that that was.

Speaker 4 (02:16:07):
Yeah, he made me a whole much made to he
had my friend doing drugs.

Speaker 1 (02:16:15):
But anybody's gonna intimidate me, I'm gonna let it be
Mike Tyson. It was almost like you put it in.

Speaker 9 (02:16:23):
I was like.

Speaker 4 (02:16:25):
Browns felt.

Speaker 5 (02:16:30):
God, he is.

Speaker 1 (02:16:33):
Talking about sim before before that. You mean, you going
through the hood, his.

Speaker 3 (02:16:45):
Career, he come out, he comes through the hood, give
out turkeys.

Speaker 1 (02:16:50):
But you're talking about you know, before them. I don't
know him personally, okay, but I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (02:16:57):
Him in the hood.

Speaker 3 (02:16:58):
You still going to see that, you know what I mean?
The big boys and ship like that come hang out
and ship. Mike was dead, Nigga, Mike was dead, Nigga.
I saw turkeys in the hood. Nigga. You see Mike
Tyson like holy.

Speaker 1 (02:17:09):
And he's still the dude man ud Mike Tyson.

Speaker 3 (02:17:13):
B Yeah, the baby ran that well, bro, Nigga. I
wrote it for Mike Tyson. Niggas who this nigga? Yeah,
that's that's that's his boy, his boy.

Speaker 4 (02:17:25):
Like he cried with Buster Douglas fight.

Speaker 5 (02:17:30):
I really pulled up on Lennox Lewis wait, so I
know Leonard, you snapper. Did you know he had to
fight with Shannon. He fought Shannon Briggs.

Speaker 1 (02:17:57):
Because he see browns with niggas, you could not allow so.

Speaker 5 (02:18:01):
So because Shannon called, he me and my man Mony
called for Mecca.

Speaker 6 (02:18:09):
But now he called, and the fight was in Atlantic City.

Speaker 3 (02:18:13):
Me and Mo.

Speaker 5 (02:18:14):
Me and Mo went to Atlantic City. Me and Mo
went to Atlantic City. You know, sat ring side whatever,
watching the fight go down. H Shannon didn't come out
on top, right, he did not?

Speaker 3 (02:18:23):
No, he didn't, he didn't. He didn't. He didn't.

Speaker 6 (02:18:26):
But like months later, we seen him in the club
in New York.

Speaker 1 (02:18:31):
Lennix Lewis.

Speaker 5 (02:18:32):
Yeah, So I asked him, I said, y'all was I said, Yo,
why you do my man like that? I'm just fucking
with him though you know me, Though you do, you'll understand.

Speaker 1 (02:18:47):
What that means. Fifteen niggas would I was talking about?

Speaker 5 (02:18:56):
He said, he said, Yo, it's just the business. Now
I know who he is, but nobody else know who
he is. So now niggas toss arounding him. Now we're
surrounding him in the club. Nigga was a joke.

Speaker 6 (02:19:08):
Nigga was joking.

Speaker 3 (02:19:09):
It was a Lynx lewis he about to at least
eight of us up right?

Speaker 1 (02:19:14):
At least right?

Speaker 6 (02:19:16):
So wait wait it was a small thing.

Speaker 3 (02:19:18):
Wasn't that? You know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (02:19:19):
I just let him know, you know, Shan Shannon my
boy or whatever small ship he got, he got out
of it in one piece.

Speaker 4 (02:19:27):
That was the Then he beat Tyson too. That's too much, Browns.

Speaker 3 (02:19:33):
It was.

Speaker 5 (02:19:36):
Let me let me let me say something though, right
like the fight like we got champions, Browns. We don't
just have fight us. Weab Riddick bow Yes, Shannon Braid, Iron,
Mike Title, all all the belts, Sam Juter, all the belts,
all the belts right, all different weight classes, all champions.

Speaker 3 (02:19:58):
Man.

Speaker 5 (02:19:59):
So shout out to Za, shout out to Don't in
the breakfast m ok right we can. But that's that's all.
That's all, Brooklyn. But rock rock ness, rockness from Heal
to Skelter. It was a fucking incredible, incredible speltics from
brown Field.

Speaker 1 (02:20:19):
Yeah, you shout out myself.

Speaker 3 (02:20:23):
The smoother hustle, trigger, the gamble. Can't forget that faster,
faster age. It's a lot of there's a lot of
dudes in bra.

Speaker 4 (02:20:34):
Yeah, yeah, yea yeah, tike a shot to the hell. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
you gotta sit.

Speaker 1 (02:20:41):
I'm watching you. You put your drink drink man.

Speaker 9 (02:20:51):
Billy already cursing me Outig don't know, Michael Rapper board school.

Speaker 3 (02:20:59):
Schoolers, grown silly Wrapp.

Speaker 4 (02:21:08):
I know his grandmother used to live there.

Speaker 1 (02:21:10):
Yes, he told me the grandma Burgers and y'all Michael
Rabig grandmother from howel you see Yeah, Rapper, Yes, I
didn't see him there.

Speaker 5 (02:21:22):
He told me.

Speaker 1 (02:21:25):
I can't say it now, but we shoot Rambo pe documentary.
But I okay, and he's filming it like he did quest.
I can't say it. Let's get him a napkin. I
can't say.

Speaker 4 (02:21:38):
Bill cutting me out because he shout the charcoal quest.
The documentary did an amazing job. So Rapp, we're breaking
the room right here. Michael Rapp, reporter, student the m
O P documentary.

Speaker 5 (02:21:57):
I'm not I'm not clamming, and I don't know what
the fuck he's talking.

Speaker 3 (02:22:00):
About like that.

Speaker 1 (02:22:04):
Shoal about through the rule.

Speaker 4 (02:22:18):
Let's make it come to The's so much trouble right now,
because you know why, I swear to God, man, I
know what good brothers you guys are. I know what
amazing artists you guys are. I know what amazing people
you guys are. So that's the reason why I've been
always wanting to do this, man, because like I said, man,

(02:22:40):
you guys are one of the best groups of all times.
The guys are humble. I know you guys don't like
really brag, but I'm a brag for you.

Speaker 1 (02:22:47):
I'm a i'm a. I'm a I'm a. I don't care.

Speaker 4 (02:22:50):
I don't care what what, what, what position I play
on the team. I can even have the pom poms.
That's so much of a you know, confident man I am.

Speaker 3 (02:22:59):
And you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (02:23:00):
Oh my.

Speaker 3 (02:23:02):
Thank you brother. Man, Brother, I'm a plan of music too, Yes, planning.

Speaker 4 (02:23:11):
On y'all to say, Man, I gotta give your yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:23:13):
But I was man, I'm like that too, hung bro.

Speaker 3 (02:23:15):
I like this ship.

Speaker 1 (02:23:16):
I like to shoop.

Speaker 3 (02:23:25):
Joe.

Speaker 1 (02:23:26):
You're drinking buron lais Lass, drinking anything. I'm drinking y'all
dot com. I'm thinking ber right now. But ye know
I'm in trouble this.

Speaker 5 (02:23:37):
Ye this nigga. Take me say you got Japanese whiskey?

Speaker 3 (02:23:40):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (02:23:40):
I like I love that, yeah, yes, yeah, no, no, no,
Docky is white. Can I take a second to shut
out at Joe? Yes, rebby Ma Buster rhymes.

Speaker 12 (02:23:55):
Those are people. We love them, Steve Rifkin, that's our
brother right there.

Speaker 1 (02:24:00):
We love them.

Speaker 12 (02:24:01):
They are so amazing And what Fat Joe has done
with his career is one of the most amazing things
I ever saw.

Speaker 1 (02:24:08):
Buster rhymes on tour right now?

Speaker 3 (02:24:10):
What he Yeah, Buster Man, I want to go bust
this ship man, Buster, this motherfucker come on.

Speaker 1 (02:24:20):
He don't stop and he sound better and better and better.

Speaker 3 (02:24:24):
He's amazing, amazing, He's he's one of the best.

Speaker 1 (02:24:28):
Ever hands out like the rappers, entertainers. He's not just
a fucking rapper road and the music and she hands
down like like like, don't just pin him down just
even acting. He's Alien's hero. Don't die on us. We
don't get insurance like that.

Speaker 3 (02:24:50):
That's crazy.

Speaker 4 (02:24:51):
Is I'm early in the morning person and he's a
late night person. I only speak the bus between three
lunch stepping in the morning.

Speaker 12 (02:25:00):
At two am, and we talk about it, what we're doing,
what we're doing, godfather nigga.

Speaker 1 (02:25:08):
A buster he want to start at twelve at night?

Speaker 5 (02:25:10):
Like what they anything session, I've been working with you
for years.

Speaker 3 (02:25:16):
I'm going to sleep. He's just getting started because it's
in the studio every day, yea, every day, every day.

Speaker 7 (02:25:25):
And be honest, he could be the best motifational speaker
ever known, like Ny Robbins.

Speaker 4 (02:25:31):
Yeah yeah, and you words and ship his combination of works.
When I'm down, I just call him like and I
tell him him sad ship. I'm like, yo, man, she
ain't feel what you're going to do called what we're
going to do called.

Speaker 1 (02:25:47):
And I'll be like, all right, Bust, I'm back and
I'm back together. You can get Bust his career.

Speaker 4 (02:25:51):
I pray everybody have a Bust of RoHS right.

Speaker 1 (02:25:57):
So much person, I don't pray if you never meet
a Buster Rhymes, I know you know what, I'm gonna
put something in the universe.

Speaker 7 (02:26:04):
Siri or Amazon, y'all should fucking pay him mad dollars
for his voice to be the voice of that ship,
like when you talk to Sirio, Amazon's busted talking to you.

Speaker 1 (02:26:14):
Like, you know, like your ship.

Speaker 3 (02:26:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:26:20):
And then we used to have m P in the GPS.
Every time they go to time they go to the hood.
You gonna hear, y'all, y'all never you'll never made girl records.

Speaker 1 (02:26:31):
No, no, no, but they did it. This is what
I would say. I think y'all don't even know.

Speaker 2 (02:26:36):
Y'all probably the most gangster ass party records ever.

Speaker 1 (02:26:42):
That's real. What about you make songs like not good records?

Speaker 3 (02:26:47):
No, No, make choice like we make stories like blood.

Speaker 1 (02:26:49):
Women would dance it in the club.

Speaker 3 (02:26:53):
We do choice like that, We make songs. We're not
just motherfuckers. Walk up to y'all. I hate them niggas yo, nigga,
I just came home this nigga.

Speaker 1 (02:27:05):
I'm not that tough. I don't give a funk what
you just yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:27:09):
But so yeah, I feel your ship.

Speaker 4 (02:27:11):
I'm from flow.

Speaker 6 (02:27:12):
Turn it down.

Speaker 3 (02:27:13):
We make emotional ship. I've been through ship.

Speaker 1 (02:27:19):

Speaker 3 (02:27:20):
It's a time to turn it down.

Speaker 1 (02:27:22):
And we take a shot, take a shin. Jesus gives
you didn't know that.

Speaker 4 (02:27:35):
But let me ask you. Let me ask you' all,
because every now and then a person come up to
me like, of course I did a bid to y'all ship.
I shouted, nigga to y'all, ship.

Speaker 3 (02:27:48):
Leave me alone.

Speaker 1 (02:27:50):
What are they saying to y'all, Like, what is the
man saying to your home? My coup and what does
that mean? Mister Lee's feet? He said, you telling somebody
to want you to and wrong.

Speaker 3 (02:28:03):
I remember doing a show upstate, New York, bro, and
there was a fan in the middle of the show.
This niggas going so crazy. We give him dap and
he's going crazy, so crazy, he's so in love with
the music that we wand up. We're like, oh ship
this aggressive. Were gonna wind up.

Speaker 1 (02:28:21):
Having to this nigga just for showing us off.

Speaker 3 (02:28:28):
The nigga go to.

Speaker 1 (02:28:34):
This nigga watched? Can I tell you why I knew?
How how about Honker was a hit? I used to
go with my hat down? Nobody taking over my interview.
I'm gonna be honest. He changed up the subject. How
about the call has to go to clubs with my

(02:28:54):
hat down? Nobody knew me and I will get him too. Shots?
He requested two shots. You told me okay, yeah, okay.

Speaker 3 (02:29:03):
Yeah, I want one too.

Speaker 4 (02:29:04):
I want want to but you got what you got.

Speaker 1 (02:29:06):
You got bourbon and the Japanese with Japanese nigga. Okay,
I want to see this happening. Okay, nigga's twig everything.

Speaker 5 (02:29:16):
And don't lie. My brother drink.

Speaker 1 (02:29:20):
And I'll be like, you ain't with me on the drinking.
I don't think the challenges should be excepted.

Speaker 15 (02:29:35):
I've seen your eyes sweat. Just I really, I really
don't like being around this. So many drunks.

Speaker 1 (02:29:52):
Is kicking me all night. I'm drunk, so don't worry
Junior and drunk.

Speaker 4 (02:29:58):
So you that's what up about these episodes Like I
get drunk and then at some point I sold up
during the year that second ship. Yeah, and plus I'm like,
I said, I'm an i V. So these che coded it. Yeah,
I te coded today. I see I've seen that po
daddy do that. One day it was it was just

(02:30:20):
selling drinking and he just disappeared. And then I went
and look this niggas getting the I V.

Speaker 1 (02:30:26):
I was like, what the fuck is done?

Speaker 4 (02:30:28):
Vitamins? First off, it takes all the drunkness out of
your hydrates.

Speaker 7 (02:30:32):
You what it is because liquord dehydrates you, so you
hydrate yourself and then you come right back and dehyd That's.

Speaker 4 (02:30:37):
Why when we went to the bathroom break, I had
to take a ship.

Speaker 1 (02:30:39):
I should have not mad vitamins too much make drunks.
I mean, like, let's take a ship let's take a
shot for ship.

Speaker 9 (02:30:47):
Take a ship shot shing m P by the way,
kicking me out like them?

Speaker 5 (02:31:00):
No more.

Speaker 1 (02:31:01):
Hold on, let me tell you something.

Speaker 7 (02:31:02):
That's kind of cool about this moment, like full circle moment.
For a lot of people think we film in New York.
We filmed Miami, which I'm proud of. Yeah, I'm proud
from Miami. This show was born in Miami, and we
produced in Miami. But what's all about you guys being
here right now is when we were talking about gentrification.
This is one of the areas that got gentrified. This
is our art district. This this was this is kind

(02:31:25):
of still the hood, but was the hood. I don't
know about that broke got it.

Speaker 3 (02:31:28):
We rolled through some.

Speaker 5 (02:31:29):
Shiit just it is.

Speaker 3 (02:31:31):
It was.

Speaker 1 (02:31:32):
It's still a mixture, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (02:31:34):
So, but this was the area Winwood that you guys
performed at in ninety three. Is the first time I
saw you guys. Four probably ninety four. Dj Rob brought
you to Hoodstock at ROBERTA. Clementa Park. It was a
free show, you guys was there. We brought exhibit exhibit
had this one single out. We saw him and we
brought them through. That's a longer story, but we came

(02:31:55):
and we rolled up. You guys were on stage, and
it was the first time I saw y'all. And it
was right two blocks away from right here in the Hood.
Because this is where all the hip hop ship Zoo
the Nation had a big presence here, so all the
people in Miami that were hip hop heads would come
to this area and this is where hood Stock happening.

Speaker 1 (02:32:10):
And now you guys are back. I got two shots.
You got to shots. What you doing and we're back
to two shots.

Speaker 4 (02:32:21):
I ain't gonna be here with you.

Speaker 1 (02:32:25):
I want to see what you're gonna do. I don't know,
but nothing else. Well, when it starts like that, no, no,
I'm gonna take my time. I'm at work.

Speaker 7 (02:32:38):
Tell them about the book though, which one this book? Yes,
An the homie sent The book is a mixtae book.
I actually haven't read it yet, but I brought it
through because I'm sure it features m op features.

Speaker 1 (02:32:48):
You guys, shout out to these dudes right here, Micham,
it's a book about mix it. I just brought showing
them loves.

Speaker 7 (02:32:54):
They sent it over, and you know, you know, I
had the single that I bought literally when I was
a short I bought this joint like this is, and
I was putting this on my mixtapes. I was always
a big M O. P.

Speaker 1 (02:33:05):
Fan. You guys have fans in Miami like you don't
even know.

Speaker 5 (02:33:08):
Man, Thank you very much, brother, Thank thanks brother.

Speaker 1 (02:33:11):
He put the knife in the wall that day? Who did?
God bless So this is a legit picture of what Yeah,
that's what happened that day.

Speaker 5 (02:33:20):
He put the knife in the wall, and they just
took a picture of put the all around.

Speaker 1 (02:33:26):
I got two more shots.

Speaker 4 (02:33:29):
All right, I'm gonna take one with you right now.
You ready, No, I'm not ready.

Speaker 1 (02:33:34):
We're standing now, We're standing.

Speaker 3 (02:33:36):
There, you know.

Speaker 1 (02:33:40):
And so what's up a Fox?

Speaker 3 (02:33:44):
Oh? Good makes no Fox? Yeah she's good, man.

Speaker 5 (02:33:52):
I just talked to her a couple of days ago. Okay,
she's in good spirits. She's telling you know she had
a kid as a grown man.

Speaker 3 (02:33:58):
Now.

Speaker 5 (02:33:59):
But wow, that was the change for Fox, right, because
if you remember, Fox was wild as Fox she was,
she was one of the guys, right. I remember being
down here. I don't think it was this area, but
it was punching the sound man in the head.

Speaker 3 (02:34:12):
Of Fox was now remember.

Speaker 1 (02:34:20):
That part out of it, shout.

Speaker 5 (02:34:21):
Shout to Fox and you know she's she in good spirits, bro,
and she you know, she's still moving with us and
ship and you know, so you know because.

Speaker 12 (02:34:34):
Fox that that that whole crew from the Bronx Nations,
they huddles down, Bo huddles down.

Speaker 3 (02:34:41):
I love her people.

Speaker 4 (02:34:43):
So I remember, like in the beginning of your career,
it seemed like y'all rolled super super deep. But then
later on it was just like it was just y'all,
lads and Fox and like a couple of others, Like
I would see y'all, it's just y'all.

Speaker 1 (02:34:56):
What made the transition that was?

Speaker 6 (02:34:57):
That was, you know, we in the that's you know,
in in the beginning, we kind of moving around the city.

Speaker 3 (02:35:02):
For nigga ship Bro, for lawyers.

Speaker 16 (02:35:07):
Move you move heavy. You did the same thing, Hey,
Rex ahead, when you move heavy. I love my niggas bro, Bro,

Speaker 3 (02:35:19):
But when you move heavy, something's gonna happen. Something is
gonna happen, you know what I mean. So it's different persons.
It's smart as you get older, plus you don't do
stupid shit no more. As you get older, you think smarter. Plus,
I don't want to chaperdize nobody. You don't check it
ouze nobody, don't get in trouble, you know what I mean,
doing dumb ship.

Speaker 1 (02:35:40):
So it's smarter to move lighter, you know what i mean,
won't get into unnecessary problems.

Speaker 3 (02:35:50):
Right right because you can't.

Speaker 5 (02:35:52):
There's too many different personalities rights out. So when ways
as drunk as he is right now, he's just gonna
be as drunk as he is.

Speaker 3 (02:36:03):
Ain't gonna start no ship. He may stagger a little bit,
that's said.

Speaker 4 (02:36:07):
He's not lie.

Speaker 3 (02:36:07):
But even though he's if one of the other homies,
if one of the other homies get this.

Speaker 5 (02:36:13):
Drunk, they're gonna go somewhere. We might get into a
fight or some ship, you know what I'm saying. So
so I'm always saying nobody's disposable, But sometimes everybody can't
go to a certain you know what I mean, certain
venus or whatever.

Speaker 1 (02:36:26):
But then is that is that warrant here to growth?
It is, that's definitely, But.

Speaker 5 (02:36:33):
That don't mean you outgrow your your homie stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:36:35):
No, no, And they're still on their time.

Speaker 5 (02:36:38):
Sometimes we do joints, ain't you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (02:36:42):
Happy to see him on the fucker and sometimes they
realize the same dumb ship we always do it. So
now they fall back and they just you know what
I mean like this, You know what I mean, Like
I ain't sucking up your bag or get your bag.
I'm just happy to see you on here, you know
what I mean?

Speaker 1 (02:36:57):
Man, pop ball bees, all of the.

Speaker 12 (02:37:02):
All original pays out there that you know to go
go go go golf.

Speaker 1 (02:37:12):
Uh yes, chaff chaff mo keep going on all original mops.
I want to shout y'all out. We love y'all and
we're out there doing this work.

Speaker 12 (02:37:25):
We carry this flag for y'all, Brownsville, Brooklyn, this is
why we carry the flag. We carried the flag for Brooklyn,
for Brownsville. That's why we carry this flag. You go
anywhere on the planet Earth and we say where m
O P Is from? They say Brownsville. Salute to Brownsville.

Speaker 3 (02:37:43):
Kept that going, you've got going.

Speaker 4 (02:37:45):
It's been well known that like mo O P was
the not to play with, right, like you know, like
no one fucks with m O P.

Speaker 1 (02:37:52):
Right, Well, why have y'all never had lyrical beef the
fun out? You artists were intimidated. I think truly artists.

Speaker 5 (02:38:04):
I will tell you my reason, bros.

Speaker 3 (02:38:07):
If I got up and I'm talking about you, bro,
if I got a problem with the artists, I'm gonna
deal with you all right directly. I'm not gonna do
no fucking I just ain't got Dad's a fucking battle
rhyme like a motherfucker. I ain't gonna do no fucking
battle rhymes none of this ship. When I say you,
we'll deal with it if we know, you know I
gotta be. You know, we gotta be. I know I

(02:38:29):
gotta be. We deal with it. I'm not doing the
whole fucking bunch of them.

Speaker 1 (02:38:34):
I just ain't got it getting me as. Let me
say this, I'm he killed some error.

Speaker 12 (02:38:40):
Whether rappers weren't gangsters, the gangsters were gangsters, and then
the rappers were rappers, So we don't understand rappers that
want to be gangs.

Speaker 3 (02:38:50):
That's an analogy.

Speaker 6 (02:38:51):
That's true.

Speaker 5 (02:38:53):
That's all night at all.

Speaker 4 (02:38:58):
That was hard, and that was that was good right there.

Speaker 5 (02:39:02):
That was hard.

Speaker 3 (02:39:04):
It's really you know, if you if you huh, somebody
gotta move. You got what car?

Speaker 1 (02:39:23):
Your car?

Speaker 3 (02:39:24):
What cars?

Speaker 5 (02:39:25):
Yeah, suburban, I'm good, I hold it.

Speaker 1 (02:39:31):
Move doing squat thoughts.

Speaker 6 (02:39:33):
Remember what are you doing?

Speaker 3 (02:39:39):
He's going to back holding it down.

Speaker 1 (02:39:41):
Yeah, yeah, good, I'm holding it down.

Speaker 3 (02:39:43):
What you saying?

Speaker 1 (02:39:43):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 12 (02:39:44):
The rappers wasn't the gangsters were gangsterous. The rappers wasn't gangsters.
So what happened was the rappers started to be gangsters.
The reason when m P came about was because I
wanted to change their lives because they were actual, truly gangsters.
And I was like, yo, we got to change your life.
We can't do this because that it's the end if

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you do this. So I said, fuck it, Let's move
forward and let you make music so you cannot be
the gangsters. But the problem is now the rappers want
to be gangsters. So every time you name a gangster,
he gets arrested in two years. It's ridiculous. I have

(02:40:26):
never seen anything like this before.

Speaker 4 (02:40:29):
Everybody, but Billy, can you answer the question that I
asked him, like, why do you never like gott It's
a lyrical beef.

Speaker 5 (02:40:37):
I mean it was, I mean the funk up, you
stop stop Jesus Christ crazy, it's crazy. That's that's true, but.

Speaker 3 (02:41:01):
That's not why. That's not why.

Speaker 5 (02:41:03):
It's just like like Fame said like, I mean, it
takes a lot, you know what I mean for for
a nigga to make it, not even just any record, right,
you got to put your brain power into creating this record. Like,
I wouldn't want to waste my time talking about somebody
being disrespectful to somebody. If there's a problem, we got it.
We'll handle the problem when we see each other, you

(02:41:24):
know what I mean. They don't make no sense for
for for niggas to be beef with each other, open record.

Speaker 3 (02:41:28):
I like the energy when it's not me, right, you
know what I mean. I'll listen to them. I told
them a nerve to this ship, bro, So I listened
to it. Yeah, but no, Bro, I ain't got the
patience for it, Bro, I'm not.

Speaker 11 (02:41:45):
Now.

Speaker 3 (02:41:45):
We gotta deal with it.

Speaker 5 (02:41:46):
We can deal with it then maybe we wrap after it.

Speaker 3 (02:41:49):
Let's deal with it. And the time I'm on bro.

Speaker 5 (02:41:52):
When it comes to rap beef for battling right nowadays,
I mean we didn't have. I mean every era of
music was there was some kind of beef going on
or whatever happened happened. Nowadays, it's so fucking crazy to
where the rap battle or the rap beef turn into
a street wall and we losing, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (02:42:13):
So, yeah, that's fucking why bro, how many of these
kids we lose?

Speaker 4 (02:42:17):
Have you ever heard of record and you thought that
somebody was coming at y'all? No, No, that's not I
never heard. I heard a couple.

Speaker 3 (02:42:25):
I was like, that's because you.

Speaker 1 (02:42:37):
Get punched in the face.

Speaker 3 (02:42:38):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (02:42:39):
That's it.

Speaker 5 (02:42:40):
Yeah, niggas say fame such a oh but you know
sometime though, But.

Speaker 4 (02:42:45):
Let me ask you. Biggie had that famous line, it's
moneyga fame up in prospect.

Speaker 3 (02:42:51):
That's a love that.

Speaker 4 (02:43:00):
No, he wasn't rude, bro, No, I'm not asking that,
but you know, like it's like meigga, you're talking about okay,
because like right when Rick Ross said I'm gonna be honest,
Rick Ross said, I know Norriega, the real nor Viegad
ended beyond.

Speaker 1 (02:43:14):
I was coming right away. Bro, you called me right away.

Speaker 4 (02:43:19):
What I'm lying that, I ain't a lot of you protuated.
But at first it was like and then I got it.
I got I told you it was.

Speaker 1 (02:43:32):
For the first time you heard it.

Speaker 3 (02:43:33):
I didn't think that you knew that was big though,
But what you were saying, no, I was all love.
What we're talking about about the big line, No, it
was all love. He gave me shout out like they
used to be on my side, but they used to
hang out. It's not a true story, right right, right,
but it's a beautiful story. You know what I mean.
The way you put it, what you want that it

(02:43:55):
was happening, nigga. I've seen Big doing it down, doing
it down away getting his money or whatever.

Speaker 5 (02:44:01):
You know what I mean on my on shouto guy,
you know what I mean. So Big with my nigga.

Speaker 3 (02:44:06):
He put the story together. It's homeboy. Halleen used to
live right next door to me. Halen was like, yo, man,
this nigga shout you on a song. I heard a song.

Speaker 1 (02:44:17):
It's my nigga.

Speaker 5 (02:44:17):
Fame of a Prospect now mind you.

Speaker 3 (02:44:21):
I know Big from Prospect because I used to hang
out in Prospect.

Speaker 5 (02:44:25):
Prospect is one block.

Speaker 3 (02:44:27):
From Saint Marks.

Speaker 1 (02:44:29):
I'm from Saint Mark. Are you from sing Mans?

Speaker 5 (02:44:33):
So he put that together, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (02:44:34):
But a lot of people's like, you know, a lot
of people was off and on off and on about it, right.

Speaker 4 (02:44:41):
Because he said, for I know Big nigga, I love, disrespect.

Speaker 1 (02:44:47):
I was off.

Speaker 3 (02:44:48):
I didn't say yeah, but whatever, whatever I hate, I
didn't like.

Speaker 6 (02:44:53):
Here's what I didn't like.

Speaker 3 (02:44:54):
I didn't like.

Speaker 5 (02:44:55):
I didn't say him he screwed me to some niggas
that we knew, that you knew from back win right,
And I was clocking mind. It almost felt like fame
was on some In my opinion, it almost felt like
fame came to him on some COVID ship. Yo, you
better watch them niggas kind of ship, right, which that
that wasn't the case.

Speaker 3 (02:45:13):
So that's how I viewed it.

Speaker 5 (02:45:15):
It was a song. You know what I'm saying it was.

Speaker 1 (02:45:16):
It was a song. Fictional he just show you say
it's a fictional.

Speaker 5 (02:45:21):
It was a song.

Speaker 1 (02:45:22):
It was a big guy.

Speaker 12 (02:45:23):
Fame called me and he was very upset. He was
He was like, Yo, this is amazing. I can't believe
my man passed away. Fame love Biggie, Biggie love Fame.

Speaker 3 (02:45:37):
The biggie my friend broke off front.

Speaker 1 (02:45:43):
That was his friend. I loved Big too, Man love Fame,
loved Biggie. And at the end of the day, Biggie
passed away.

Speaker 12 (02:45:52):
We don't know circumstances, but man, that was tragic because
I understand that Biggie would still.

Speaker 5 (02:45:59):
Be a that nigga. Bigga used to drink, motherfucking.

Speaker 3 (02:46:03):
His first niggas a drink, honey, see with new trement.

Speaker 5 (02:46:07):
Niggaent drinking.

Speaker 6 (02:46:11):
I remember that though.

Speaker 3 (02:46:12):
I remember that.

Speaker 4 (02:46:15):
Like this blown you know, lutrement, lutrement, the milky. Yeah, yeah,
for real right now, just thinking about.

Speaker 5 (02:46:29):
I won't I won't go. Come on, I'm not gonna do.

Speaker 3 (02:46:34):
I got you though, But Nigga, I used to be
a nigga crib, you know what I mean, Like like that, that's.

Speaker 4 (02:46:39):
My before he was big yeah, before your big Wow.

Speaker 3 (02:46:42):
I know Nigga. I know his baby mother.

Speaker 5 (02:46:44):
You know what I mean. That's how fall.

Speaker 1 (02:46:46):
That's a free party and bullshit all that.

Speaker 3 (02:46:48):
Yeah yeah, hell yeah, hell yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:46:51):
Billy I did.

Speaker 5 (02:46:52):
I didn't know Big like that. That was Fames guy.
I tell you how how I did meet him though.
Remember back in the days, we used to have jams
in the parks and all that ship and down by
the projects and ship. And I heard, because you could
hear the sound bouncing because we lived the block up
it was on Prospect. I heard who I thought was

(02:47:14):
chub Rock Biggie rapped just like chub Rock.

Speaker 1 (02:47:19):
There the way the voice came, it sounds like it.

Speaker 6 (02:47:23):
Sounds just like him. So I'm like, oh, ship, chub
Rock is in the in the project.

Speaker 5 (02:47:29):
So I go down the blouse him and Fame standing
and it was kind of going kind of you know,
having a little sphing ship at the jam. So that's
when I first met him, and then obviously getting into
the business.

Speaker 1 (02:47:40):
He was.

Speaker 6 (02:47:41):
Biggie was opening up for us a lot in the beginning.

Speaker 4 (02:47:44):
Wait wait, did you just say Biggie was opening up
for Yeah, Biggie opened up for the movie.

Speaker 5 (02:47:48):
That's fine. Wait wait wait nor, I'm just an alcoholic
brought the drink. I'm like, did But Big Big used
to open up M O P A lot.

Speaker 1 (02:48:04):
That sounds so dope. Yeah, yeah, that sounds There's no
track together we did.

Speaker 3 (02:48:10):
One joint wasn't our record or his record was with
Red Hot Love of Tone.

Speaker 17 (02:48:16):
Yeah, track masters, you heard that. Man.

Speaker 3 (02:48:27):
Let me tell you. Big used to get busy, like
anywhere the sound system, any fucking DJ ship. I'm talking
about my neighborhood. I go to his ship, his neighborhood.
This nigga was just grabbed the mic and just fucking go,
you know what I mean. So big big bent on
this ship way before I had Big fucking I want

(02:48:49):
to say, most are ready to Die before he came,
before it even came out even came.

Speaker 1 (02:48:55):
I love how you made the.

Speaker 7 (02:48:57):
Look before I had it, before I had because Juicy
was like one of the last things that Puff made
him put on it, right, So you had it before
Juicy was on it that one.

Speaker 18 (02:49:08):
No Juicy was on it. I had a mixtape nigga
mister probably probably had to make no No. There was
a lot of records, and he had a lot of.

Speaker 5 (02:49:20):
Fucking records to joint from from.

Speaker 3 (02:49:23):
Who's the Man and all, What's the What's the Who's
the Man?

Speaker 1 (02:49:27):
That's yes dreams on it.

Speaker 3 (02:49:34):
The one originally though it was the original before.

Speaker 4 (02:49:37):
That Dreams of Office fifties, No dreams dreams.

Speaker 3 (02:49:41):
It wasn't original.

Speaker 5 (02:49:43):
There was a versions was on it.

Speaker 3 (02:49:45):
I'm talking, I'm thinking about.

Speaker 5 (02:49:48):
Me and my bitch.

Speaker 3 (02:49:48):
It wasn't original. It was a different beat. I had
joints for him at OL d B, Him and O.

Speaker 1 (02:49:55):
D B and old for Ready to Die originally.

Speaker 3 (02:49:59):
Before Already got came out.

Speaker 1 (02:50:01):
Oh, so just joints. He was recording.

Speaker 4 (02:50:03):
Recording, there's a record with Biggie. Yeah, yeah, I'm not
making believe you. I'm just not We're blown away.

Speaker 5 (02:50:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:50:15):
I had some super Brooklyn ship of course, super.

Speaker 3 (02:50:21):
Begging my man, Bro bigging my man rest in peace,
to be damn and to o d B. That's right.

Speaker 1 (02:50:32):
Let me ask you.

Speaker 7 (02:50:32):
There was always comparisons with smooth hust On trigger the
gambler was and people thought that there was a problem.

Speaker 1 (02:50:38):
Was there ever a problem with y'all?

Speaker 3 (02:50:40):
No, never, never a problem. You want to hear something funny, Bro,
I went to school, I went to kidd and guard
it smoother hustler. It's a picture. It got birthrough the
fire bro me w yeah, me little Caribbean nigga church
church shoes on being smooth Hustler, kidd of garden loving

(02:51:03):
action number one Fulton Street.

Speaker 5 (02:51:05):
Nigga's dope. That's how I fall back. We go.

Speaker 3 (02:51:10):
Shut.

Speaker 7 (02:51:13):
They was dope. Y'all was dope. I never I mean
me from from well Man, I'm like, they just dope. No,
people try to like Pinot again.

Speaker 6 (02:51:21):
That's the media bullshit, right.

Speaker 5 (02:51:23):
So if the media was just just like, I mean,
outside of your niggas drinking like fucking sailors and ship. Right,
everything's clean right here, Nigga just asks a question and
let you answer it.

Speaker 3 (02:51:35):
Right.

Speaker 5 (02:51:35):
But the media they'll try to spend the ship so
they could be there could be a problem, right.

Speaker 3 (02:51:40):
And then the labels them job asked labels too.

Speaker 5 (02:51:43):
They needed to be a problem so they can create
some beef, so they can create some attention, so they
could draw some draw some paper, you know what I'm saying.
But West Coast really started never know beef was smoothing Trigg.
Those those are my guys man, and again like Biggie like,
I didn't know them as well as Fame knowing because
they was. They was on the other side of the hill,

(02:52:04):
on the other side of Atlantic or whatever, right still
on the hill from the other side of on the
other side of Atlantic, and Fame Fame was mingling with
them for a while before I met them. I met
I think I met Smooth at how about some how
about some hawk or video shoot. That's when I met him.
Always been a good dude.

Speaker 7 (02:52:25):
I know, the whole Christ, all of them, Grave Grave Christ.
I felt was such a dope, like amazing, like all
of them. I mean, there's they're still dope.

Speaker 12 (02:52:34):
Like if you ever say him about back then, you
would bring your rapper to a neighborhood and he would
battle everybody in that neighborhood.

Speaker 1 (02:52:41):
Jay Z talked about this. Yes, what happened was everybody. Yeah,
I would bring Fame to different neighbor white.

Speaker 12 (02:52:50):
Yeah, Fame would go and just eviscerate everybody in the neighborhood.

Speaker 1 (02:52:54):
And the only other person that I.

Speaker 12 (02:52:56):
Thought was dope was Smooth the Hustle, Smooth the house
was a makes the smooth.

Speaker 3 (02:53:02):
The Smooth and Trade Christ the whole team up there.

Speaker 1 (02:53:04):
Man, they was dope. They are dope. So so back
then it was this record. It was back and forth.

Speaker 4 (02:53:15):
But Biggie and Park was like the first time we
got to see it get real, right.

Speaker 1 (02:53:23):
I mean not really No.

Speaker 7 (02:53:25):
When Cube left n w A, that's ship Lynch Mob
and and them that A stually got a little real.

Speaker 3 (02:53:31):
But okay, that's my favorite ship. So I can't fucking
that nigga, all them niggas is my favorite. So I
don't want to.

Speaker 5 (02:53:38):
I don't want to.

Speaker 2 (02:53:38):
You know, you remember how that ship that shit got
real went crazy with Lynch Mob when he was the
Lynch Mob and then and.

Speaker 1 (02:53:44):
Against against n W A easy and then that ship
got crazy.

Speaker 3 (02:53:47):
Yeah, but like I said, I'm all my favorites, so
I don't want to, you know what i mean, speak
on his speak on the right.

Speaker 4 (02:53:53):
But what was how was it affected like because you know,
me being then inside outside of inside of backing out,
did it change Brooklyn Because I just remember me being
overseas Biggie's funeral. But I remember watching it whatever version
of live stream, it was right, and I remember just

(02:54:16):
like in Brooklyn just felt like, first off, Brooklyn supported him.

Speaker 6 (02:54:21):
Yeah, that was like one of the.

Speaker 1 (02:54:23):
Most illous things that I've seen. But did it feel
like Brooklyn took a hit at that time?

Speaker 3 (02:54:28):
Of course? Definitely, definitely definitely took a hit.

Speaker 5 (02:54:31):
I mean, he was the biggest rap artists at the time,
right that that really had Brooklyn on his back. You
know what I'm saying. It really represented Brooklyn man. So
it was it was hard, bro It was really a hit.
The Fulton Street was like flooded, like flooded, you know
what I mean. Everybody came out and to support miss

(02:54:53):
Wallace and you know what I mean, and the kids
and you know faith, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (02:55:00):
But it was it was a it was a rough one.
It was a rough one, bro.

Speaker 3 (02:55:06):
Yeah, it was rough for Brooklyn, bro, like, uh, just
just because well not just because, but just me. For me,
just seeing my nigga just come from come from from
there like where I'm at, right and this niggas fucking living,
this nigga taking his family, nigga on his feet.

Speaker 1 (02:55:27):
It's the biggest rapping in the world.

Speaker 6 (02:55:28):
Yes, yes, yes, big hit.

Speaker 3 (02:55:36):
But the law from Brooklyn was so fucking that shoot
because like we get busy, hang lot of you, but
that's that nigga. Bro.

Speaker 5 (02:55:47):
He actually fucking made it.

Speaker 3 (02:55:50):
This nigga did it. So it was you know what
I mean, that was the hit right there, like damn
the fuck, how the fuck?

Speaker 5 (02:55:57):

Speaker 3 (02:55:59):
And that tough that was. That was tough. I was tough.
That was tough. And any any.

Speaker 6 (02:56:05):
Not not just hip hop, but any life period losses
is tough.

Speaker 1 (02:56:09):
Young life.

Speaker 6 (02:56:10):
Yeah, young.

Speaker 2 (02:56:11):
It was like getting how young? Yeah, these people were
losing their lives.

Speaker 3 (02:56:17):
Man.

Speaker 1 (02:56:17):
It's crazy, man.

Speaker 5 (02:56:18):
Yeah, that's horrible, senseless. I feel like you know what
I mean, did I meet No, I never smoke, Okay,
I never met him. I never met him, Okay, I
never met him.

Speaker 1 (02:56:32):
You about to say so, no, no, no, I don't
know pop smoke, yeah, yeah, recipes y rest of the Peace.

Speaker 3 (02:56:39):
Definitely, Definitely.

Speaker 5 (02:56:40):
I love what he's still for. Yeah, because right down
away from us, ten minutes away from us, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 3 (02:56:45):
So I love what he represented and everything. You know
what I mean.

Speaker 4 (02:56:48):
Little Boosie say he thinks that California is the murder
capital for rappers.

Speaker 5 (02:56:52):
I ain't speaking to that, bro, No, I think America. Yeah,
America the murder capital for rappers.

Speaker 3 (02:57:01):
Right, that's right.

Speaker 1 (02:57:02):
They murdered man in Europe.

Speaker 5 (02:57:04):
Let me let me say, well, a couple couple of
things did happen, but that right, like for rappers, right
all the if they're trying to they're putting everything on
hip hop or rap right like this ain't have nothing
to do with the music, you know what I mean.
These kids, these kids dying like this in the street,

(02:57:24):
don't have nothing to do with the music. There's somebody
poking their fucking chests out. Because you know, once you
say something on IG like it's like when I see
such and such. The truth is once IG, once your
live go off, you got enough time to think, right
and niggas ain't no fucking animals. We all know some

(02:57:46):
some you know, we know some some people that done
did some ship, but even them, niggas ain't no killers,
you know what I'm saying. So when you have the
time to think, you really don't want to do this shit,
but you done set it on ig So now when
you see them, you're gonna fuck around and drop him.

Speaker 3 (02:58:02):
Now.

Speaker 5 (02:58:02):
Now his family's future is altered, Your family's future is altered.
Everybody's fucked up. But it comes all the way back
to hip hop. Right. They blame the whole shit on
hip hop rapper local rap' and I'm the I'm I'm
I'm happy, right. I call it this thing of ours,
this hip hop thing of ours. I'm happy to see

(02:58:23):
young niggas, you know, making money like our people, right,
because this is the only shit that belonged to us.

Speaker 9 (02:58:28):
Right.

Speaker 5 (02:58:29):
You could take the sports franchises, you could take the
fucking billion dollar tech companies, and together collectively, the motherfuckers
ain't been able to secure as many homes in the
urban community as hip hop has.

Speaker 6 (02:58:41):
Right, So this thing of ours is serious.

Speaker 5 (02:58:43):
So I'm happy about the young dudes making money and
all that shit. Right, But everybody's not a rapper, right
and I'm not and I'm not saying they can't rap.
But if a nigga ain't officially a rapper, why do
you got to be called a rapper?

Speaker 3 (02:58:59):
Right?

Speaker 6 (02:58:59):
So when you win, you going on the news.

Speaker 5 (02:59:01):
Just like local rapper such and such got shot at
such as. It's like everybody that gets.

Speaker 1 (02:59:06):
Shot because I'm trying to rap.

Speaker 5 (02:59:09):
And I don't want to take it from I hope
everybody get on that, you know, and get their blessings.

Speaker 6 (02:59:14):
But stop pointing that ship, that hip hop man.

Speaker 3 (02:59:17):
That ship ain't think.

Speaker 1 (02:59:21):

Speaker 4 (02:59:21):
For realm nothing to do with the music. And let
me let me ask you something. At one point when
you were a rapper, the drug dealers protected you. The
police officers didn't give you tickets. Like at one point,
at one point, you're proud to say I'm a rapper.
Right now, I'll get pulled over. I want to say

(02:59:42):
I'm a drug dealer. Like like I get like, what
the fuck officer? Yeah, I sell cracked, you know what
I mean? Like I like what, oh yeah, I was
on the playing first class.

Speaker 1 (02:59:57):
It's like, what do you do? I was like, I
sell cracking. Just that's what they wanted anyway, that's what
they wanted to hear it.

Speaker 4 (03:00:03):
But but I remember, you remember, really at one point
you could say you're a rapper. That was a respectable profession.
Everybody that, the local drug dealers, everybody, the police officers.
Now you if you get pulled over, you say you're
a rapper, they say, I'm checking.

Speaker 1 (03:00:17):
You for guns.

Speaker 5 (03:00:18):
Yeah, yeah, of course.

Speaker 6 (03:00:19):
But that was our era.

Speaker 5 (03:00:21):
That was our our heyday, right, Like, I don't know
how many times I got pulled over and got flat.

Speaker 6 (03:00:29):
With a warning or some ship, or I got pulled
up like I used to.

Speaker 3 (03:00:32):
Keep a motherfucking magazine in my car.

Speaker 5 (03:00:34):
I had no license, they pull over me.

Speaker 1 (03:00:38):
Right work, mother sau was your license? I don't like
I got my passport. I was doing that.

Speaker 4 (03:00:55):
Yeah all right, take my card, bro, holy ship. So
let's talk about when death becomes you.

Speaker 3 (03:01:10):
Ah good joint. I remember Fifth sending it over. We
were in D and D.

Speaker 5 (03:01:19):
Yeah, I was in was in D and D when
he sent it over. Yeah, beat was fire the feel,
you know, I mean, because he was you know, his
hook game was so on point, especially then he was
like fucking chill a hook. So I don't even know.
I don't know who produced to be, but easy record

(03:01:40):
to do, you know what I mean. We was we
was in gear as I said, we were in the
studio anyway. So he sent it over, banged it out
real quick. That's when we were first shot in the
G Unit. That's when we first shot the G unit.
He sent that joint. Yeah. I didn't even think we
had signed at that point. I think we were just
kind of shaking it a little bit. Yeah yeah, yeah,
but you know, we was bobbing with each of them.

(03:02:00):
So no matter of fact he's said he said, like
two joints, joints. Yeah, it's like two or three joints.
And that was that was That was one of the
That was one own. Okay, that's one of my favorite records.
That ship is fire, Yeah is fire. Now we got
to go back to Cold Dice.

Speaker 7 (03:02:17):
That you I didn't realize that you produced it, And that's,
to me is one of the Illis records out there.

Speaker 1 (03:02:23):
Uh the samples foreigner, you know, it's funny.

Speaker 2 (03:02:26):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (03:02:27):
Actually, down here somewhere, I was managing this group may
Day and we was renting a spot from the Son
of the Dude from Foreigner, the dude.

Speaker 4 (03:02:37):
Chris John Ross. Is it.

Speaker 3 (03:02:43):
Chris Jones?

Speaker 1 (03:02:44):
Who is it Chris Jones Records? Yeah, I don't know,
but it was due from Foreigner.

Speaker 7 (03:02:50):
But but yeah, and I mean when he when I
found out, I was just all I thought about was
that record.

Speaker 3 (03:02:55):
One day, me and lady we got to meet up
at Relativity Records. I love.

Speaker 1 (03:03:09):
Just be looking at you like y'all ready to compete.

Speaker 3 (03:03:15):
We've been over there and ship and they said, I
told you, I'm a fucking nerve. I see a fucking
pile of records right in the in the rain, in
the rain, in the rain is rain and ship. You know,
niggas love a nigga trashy my mother fucking treasure, you
know what I mean. Some ship so throwing in plastic bag,

(03:03:35):
some niggas. You got, some niggas that go fucking record
shopping and all this ship, that ship. I have done
it too.

Speaker 5 (03:03:41):
I have done it too.

Speaker 3 (03:03:43):
But I like to be surprised. I like to just
go through ship and find fine, shouldn't just be surprised.
I don't know who the fuck made it, you know
what I mean? I just write down who made the record,
you know what I mean? My files. Anyway, I found
this record in the rain. I take it home. I
take you home. Fucking throw out the fucking records. Let
it throw out, you know what I mean. I put

(03:04:04):
that ship on and I find cold as ice, you
know what I mean. Now this when I first got
my machine, I'm going crazy my home. I got my
new apartment. Nigga, what machine fucking hard NC three thousand
and see two thousand. I got my turnch head with
my fucking little equalized all that ship, I throw that
ship all brow. I put that bitch together. This floppy

(03:04:26):
this day's nigga foppery.

Speaker 1 (03:04:30):
Are terrible time. Yeah, we had a load. You had
to load up.

Speaker 3 (03:04:37):
But I found that a mother fucker in the rain.
Bro And then the weird story is the form of
the dude.

Speaker 5 (03:04:44):
I met him.

Speaker 3 (03:04:44):
I finally met him face to face and ship and
I told him the same story I heard myself tell
him the story.

Speaker 5 (03:04:52):
I'm like, oh, Ship, I should I.

Speaker 3 (03:04:55):
Should have told him my family recording and the race
was right there on sixth Avenue. Is what it is?

Speaker 1 (03:05:04):
You know, back to line you brought.

Speaker 3 (03:05:06):
Yeah, he showed up to the video and everything too well.

Speaker 5 (03:05:09):
We did two videos for it.

Speaker 3 (03:05:10):
Though the first video showed up to it. Yeah, let's
take it, let's record.

Speaker 1 (03:05:19):
It's a little yeah, just.

Speaker 4 (03:05:24):
Then you go, yo, jesus, I didn't know you produced
that though, Yeah, ship produced that.

Speaker 1 (03:05:31):
Produce for other people, other people you produced. You did
all record that we did together.

Speaker 3 (03:05:37):
We don't know.

Speaker 1 (03:05:39):
You should know Google it has Google it.

Speaker 3 (03:05:42):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (03:05:43):
Yeah, we was all drunk, back to drunk like ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (03:05:46):
True, why did you say you did it?

Speaker 3 (03:05:50):
No?

Speaker 1 (03:05:51):
Was it the off? Was it the off period?

Speaker 5 (03:05:54):
It sounds like it could have a d'all bounce to
it though, right, you should know your fucking.

Speaker 1 (03:06:01):
You know, not for nothing, but but you got he's
got Google. But not for nothing. A CNN m P
tour album, album and tour will be great.

Speaker 4 (03:06:13):
Would love to do that, would be that?

Speaker 5 (03:06:15):
Would do that?

Speaker 1 (03:06:16):
Maybe EP whatever, just something and a tour.

Speaker 3 (03:06:20):
And a tour joint you did anytime, bro, I would
love to do.

Speaker 1 (03:06:30):
I didn't hear.

Speaker 4 (03:06:30):
The record is so long. And like I said, when
I was going through this once, I called y'all because I.

Speaker 1 (03:06:36):
Wanted people to know.

Speaker 3 (03:06:37):
I called m O P. I wanted m O P.

Speaker 4 (03:06:40):
You know what I mean that that takes nothing away
from me as a man. This is what I wanted
wanted to do. This, this is what we wanted to do.

Speaker 1 (03:06:47):
I mean, you're gonna take the years that we've all been.

Speaker 4 (03:06:51):
Know what I'm saying recently recently recently, I was just like,
you know what, you know, we see you at the
BET Awards, Yeah, ago, yep, And I remember making sure
I had the right numbers, and I was just like, yo,
I just I just really really really wanted to do this.

Speaker 1 (03:07:06):
But I hadn't heard the record, so I've been living.
I didn't hear it so long.

Speaker 3 (03:07:11):
I just heard it today.

Speaker 4 (03:07:13):
When when discovering your discography, I just instinctively didn't want
to hear that record because I wanted to hear y'all.

Speaker 1 (03:07:20):
I wanted to be about y'all. But then when I
came here and it was crazy.

Speaker 4 (03:07:24):
The minute we actually played, I was like, yo, let's
hear the record that me and Compone got with them,
And then they said, yomp just drove up and I
was just like, oh, ship, that's exactly how life works.
Like like we was listening to your whole other ship
before that. But then as y'all drive up, it's that record,
and I was like, you know what, I still wouldn't wanted.

Speaker 1 (03:07:47):
To film the video out here if we were to
do it.

Speaker 3 (03:07:49):
We gotta be in, we gotta go back.

Speaker 7 (03:07:52):
We got it, we got it, and I to be honest,
you know, we play music before the the guest gets here.
We're playing the vibe. Yeah, we had method not too
long ago, a couple of a couple of weeks ago,
a week ago, and we was playing all wu Tan
myth joints and we was yo. The energy was good

(03:08:12):
and you guys matched that energy which we hadn't felt
in a while, like that energy listening to the.

Speaker 1 (03:08:20):
To the guest music before they got here.

Speaker 4 (03:08:22):
And then you got to remember, like for me, anybody
that came up before me, it's like I wanted to
match that energy.

Speaker 3 (03:08:32):
I wanted to do that.

Speaker 4 (03:08:35):
And man, you guys are true legends. Man, you got
really really icons. Thank you guys, really deserved these flowers.

Speaker 5 (03:08:43):
Same to you, bro.

Speaker 4 (03:08:44):
You know, list listen, believe about you because because this
is sincerely you know, necessary, and it's sincerely deserved.

Speaker 1 (03:08:54):
You know what I mean, It's deserved, man, Like in
a lot of ways.

Speaker 4 (03:08:59):
You know that two man group ship you know from
EPM D. I loved how you gave us to epm D.
But that's we're all a part of that ship, you
know what I mean. We're all me, epm D, you guys,
Mob Dug, you know, dog Pound. There's a three man

(03:09:20):
group thing too, and this big of the migos and
it's big.

Speaker 1 (03:09:23):
Up the locks.

Speaker 4 (03:09:24):
But it's something special about a two man group. I
always used to say. Sometimes I was like, Yo, me
and Capone got this is as much fucking personality as
fucking nine niggas in Wu Tang, Like it's the same
fucking kind of like hardness, like how to get them
nine niggas together? Sometimes me and Compone was on a
different level so much that it might have felt like

(03:09:46):
it was nine people of us, you know what I mean.
The one thing I always love about y'all is I
never heard of room a one time that.

Speaker 1 (03:09:54):
Me and Compone fell out.

Speaker 4 (03:09:56):
This this documented of Havoc saying certain things about Prodigy.
There's never nothing documented about y'all too.

Speaker 5 (03:10:05):
Na we because we don't first of all, like again,
like we're not a rap group. We just happen to
know how to do this ship, you know what I mean,
And we we do it together. But most people are
really like put together. I don't I don't know you
and you and poem story, right, Like I know where

(03:10:26):
you're from and I know where he's from. I don't
know if y'all mingled as kids or whatever or right right,
So okay, cool, so younger, but right, still two different hoods, right,
I don't know the full mob deep story.

Speaker 3 (03:10:44):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (03:10:44):
I don't know everybody's story. I just know our story,
you know what I'm saying. Like we just we're not
a rap group. So even if rap didn't happen, we
would still be hanging out together because we started out
like that, you know what I'm saying. So so it's
it's it's much different. It's not like everybody else, you
know what I mean. That's what's really unique about in
MOP because you go yo, your lyrics is crazy and nigga,

(03:11:07):
it's only a certain amount of words in the English language.

Speaker 3 (03:11:10):
Nigga, So.

Speaker 5 (03:11:12):
Funk all of that. This is like real ship right here.
This is not no put together ship. And I'm not
trying to disrespect anybody else. I'm just.

Speaker 3 (03:11:22):
You know what I mean, I'm giving it up for.

Speaker 1 (03:11:30):
One of the craziest things in my career.

Speaker 4 (03:11:32):
Was seeing people get married to my music and the
fouless version of my music. To be able to see
somebody get married to your music.

Speaker 3 (03:11:43):
Or I'm not saying I've got I have gotten requests
for fucking per form of that open.

Speaker 1 (03:11:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (03:11:52):
We did.

Speaker 3 (03:11:53):
We did.

Speaker 5 (03:11:54):
We were talking to.

Speaker 3 (03:12:02):
I'm good. We don't do ship well one we did
one in Long Island. Oh yeah, just not even was
like a reception.

Speaker 5 (03:12:14):
Was tell me, tell me go on it was. It
was long Allen. I don't I forget what kind of
venue it was. But and Sticky was out there, too, Sticky.

Speaker 1 (03:12:27):
So this figure had m O P and he figures
for man's wedther whoever he is, he's gully like a moment.
It might have been. It might have been seen a lady,
you said, he It might have been.

Speaker 5 (03:12:44):
Right right now.

Speaker 3 (03:12:45):
But damn that.

Speaker 5 (03:12:48):
Nothing else like no, no, I mean you know, Weiga
was playing uh Andy up in the White House and
ship like that.

Speaker 3 (03:12:55):
The Knights did that, which was wow. He told the
story of house playing.

Speaker 5 (03:13:01):
Naomi Campbell walked up on him while he was spinning
at the White House and he goes, She goes, dude.

Speaker 3 (03:13:09):
Trying to I'm trying trying to dude, we got.

Speaker 5 (03:13:14):
She's like, yo, why are you playing it so safe?
Like play that ship? Like she from she from London,
so she's on at ship. So he just threw the
ship on and the White House, the White House went up,
you know what I'm saying. So, which was great, you
know what I'm saying that something like for some ship
like that to happen, rather it was a mistake or not.

Speaker 2 (03:13:36):
No, that shows you where hip hop has gone exactly exactly, So.

Speaker 4 (03:13:40):
You're telling me Naomi Campbell came up to d Nice
in the White House.

Speaker 1 (03:13:45):
Yes, has said play and he said, I don't know.
He must have been playing.

Speaker 4 (03:13:55):
I don't know, some kind of cool music but shout
the broad So you got handy up played in the
White House.

Speaker 3 (03:14:06):
Yeah yeah, let me let me say something. We're a
fucking big deal.

Speaker 19 (03:14:12):
Okay, definitely, we definitely got to get shot to that
mother big.

Speaker 5 (03:14:25):
Deal but still not cocky, still grounded, you know, yeah,
but being able to come from Brownsville and travel the
world five times, bro, you know, like where we're from,
like these areas, give me five time, thumber niggas, we're
going we travel a lot, bro, so so to do

(03:14:48):
so to come from where we come from, to be
able to travel like this and live live out our
dream like you know what I'm saying that that's what
makes me rich.

Speaker 3 (03:14:57):
Right when when I see people on the.

Speaker 5 (03:14:59):
They start talking about as well, some other law has
got more money than you and didn't understand how rich
I am.

Speaker 1 (03:15:06):
How are you going to be?

Speaker 3 (03:15:08):
You know what I'm saying. All the tuitions got paid,
you know.

Speaker 1 (03:15:13):
What I'm saying, So we're good like I was.

Speaker 4 (03:15:16):
I was like I was saying that earlier, and I
was saying that, you know, uh uh, my friend mention
like I've really been all around the world, like I've
really been in it, and most of the time, like
I said earlier, was I didn't document it because I
just felt like it was going to be here for
the rest of my life.

Speaker 6 (03:15:36):
Well, it wasn't this easy either, right.

Speaker 1 (03:15:38):
Right, we didn't have those It was easy.

Speaker 5 (03:15:41):
Yes, I remember chasing around fucking what's the first ship
we Gavin the Gavin, Right, I remember chasing.

Speaker 4 (03:15:48):
The convention, the Gavin Convention, chasing around m.

Speaker 3 (03:15:51):
C eight with a fucking disposable camera. I thought in
m C eight with the doper yellow.

Speaker 1 (03:15:58):
Hard point about it was it was me.

Speaker 5 (03:16:01):
I chased this thing around the whole never got the
picture though I chased him around the whole convention that
whole fucking time. Never got the picture. But yeah, we
didn't have you know, we didn't have access like we
do now.

Speaker 1 (03:16:13):
Big up to lady.

Speaker 3 (03:16:14):
He tried to go to that door. I never even
knew that was a door.

Speaker 1 (03:16:18):
He tried.

Speaker 20 (03:16:30):
Right now, take another, get in the next, lady, don't
do that on my way around bro around, Broke, you can.

Speaker 4 (03:16:42):
Tell you a professional drinker, you can drink that water.
He know the balance, you know the balance.

Speaker 1 (03:16:51):
What is what is something that shocked you in the business.

Speaker 4 (03:16:54):
I know earlier we said I talked about the jay
Z and Dane Dash thing and how you said you
knew the rock when it is a pebble, and so
you didn't want to kind of.

Speaker 1 (03:17:03):
Do business when you say that. Is this any other
thing that shocked you in this business?

Speaker 3 (03:17:11):
Not not really like that.

Speaker 5 (03:17:14):
That's the biggest thing that that kind of threw me
off in the business. Everything else, like because I, like
I said, everybody's a snake until they prove in different,
you know what I'm saying. So if I don't know
a person, I'm always I'm always got you know, it's
always the worst thought in my head first, So nobody
can surprise me when a nigga does some under handed shit.
I'm not surprised nigga, you know what I'm saying. And

(03:17:37):
I'm definitely the kind of person that there's no second
chances with me.

Speaker 3 (03:17:42):

Speaker 5 (03:17:42):
It's too dangerous to give a nigga a second chance,
you know what I mean. So once we got a problem,
and it don't gotten to be no no bullshit where
it's turning into that. But once you show me that
I can't trust you, it's over right. But how could
you trust the motherfucker that can't be trusted?

Speaker 3 (03:17:59):
Like? What make you that?

Speaker 5 (03:18:00):
Specially that he's gonna change changes stripes, you know what
I'm saying. So in order to keep my ass out
of prison or somebody knocking me to funk off or
somebody fucking me over over some money and me getting
into unnecessary, unnecessary beef, I just cut him off.

Speaker 3 (03:18:14):
That's it. That's the second chances.

Speaker 4 (03:18:16):
Well, I think what you describing, it's called integrity.

Speaker 3 (03:18:20):
Yeah, got the words now a little bit.

Speaker 1 (03:18:25):
Just I don't know, Yeah, yeah, spelling them now, I
don't know toll that okay, But how did you develop
that sort of integrity well to be through experience?

Speaker 5 (03:18:38):
Yeah, definitely through experience and and and the way I
grew up. So so the world know me and fame, right,
but there's there's more parts to m O P like back,
that's that's what man, okay, William.

Speaker 3 (03:18:53):
William Man, I know.

Speaker 5 (03:18:58):
My ship. So we a group of guys that grew
up together in the middle of I wack, right in
the middle of the bullshit. Right, every hood has this, right,
there's always some bullshit on them, but we had to
kind of protect each other and hold each other down,

(03:19:21):
like I started from a young young age. So and
this helps me with the way I go through life,
Like I don't want to deal with a motherfucker that
I can't trust me. I don't want to deal with
somebody that I can't rely on, you know what I mean.
And I'm never gonna let a motherfucker do something to
me that I wouldn't do to them, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 3 (03:19:40):
Never.

Speaker 5 (03:19:41):
So if it's you and I, right, if I call
you for something, I feel like I can call you
because I know if you call me, nigga, I'm right there.
That's the only reason why IM gonna call you right,
because there's nowhere in the fuck I can't let nobody
do something to me or handle me in the way
that I won't handle them. So that's you know I
grew up. That's that's how I grew up. Like you

(03:20:02):
respect people, you know what I mean, And and and
people gave you that respect. Or you treat a person
how they should be treated.

Speaker 3 (03:20:10):

Speaker 5 (03:20:10):
You treat a person is the right way, and they're
gonna treat you the right way. Now if you don't,
that's you know what I'm saying. Now, you think about
the beef with the dude across town. Like the dude
across town, I expect him to do some ship to me.
But the nigga next to me right.

Speaker 4 (03:20:28):
Right, you see what I'm saying, he's supposed to hold
it down exactly.

Speaker 5 (03:20:31):
That's why you get the funk away from that before
you alter your kids future, right, because you're gonna either
to kill this think you're gonna kill you, so let
me get the funk out of it.

Speaker 6 (03:20:38):
So integrity is really important, brother, It's really important.

Speaker 4 (03:20:40):
The other day, I'm having a conversation about drill music
and about to participate in it. I got a shot
shot coming from me, and you have one more shot,
one more drill and drill.

Speaker 1 (03:20:59):
They're saying that they're making records, these negative records, but
they're actually living.

Speaker 3 (03:21:04):
Them out right.

Speaker 4 (03:21:05):
So I found myself in a conversation and I had
to shut the fuck up because they're like, it's their
lyrics and this is all us and I was just like,
oh shit, Like who the fuck am I to comment.

Speaker 1 (03:21:22):
On these young dudes lyrics and they're living.

Speaker 5 (03:21:26):
It out and we do the same shiit, same ship. Bro.

Speaker 1 (03:21:29):
I might have been war report you wanted to go there,
but but that's true.

Speaker 4 (03:21:40):
It's like, how can I critique them when I might
be their fathers, at be a minimum, their stepfather, right
right right, Oh you're their father's right.

Speaker 1 (03:21:54):
I've been listening to job music. They got nothing happy
at all.

Speaker 4 (03:21:59):
Your niggas is going to see y'all smile and living
this life now. But listening to your music, it.

Speaker 1 (03:22:06):
Was like, do y'all feel beat up? Listening to the music?
Do y'all feel because I.

Speaker 3 (03:22:12):
Mean, we are all kind of I say, everybody, man,
I got I got my little kid, bro, this little Quashine.
I love you, bro. This little nigga. When I was
going through my ship, right, this little motherfucker kept me alive.

Speaker 1 (03:22:32):
You heard me, kept listening to Huh he was listening
to music.

Speaker 3 (03:22:35):
No, no, you listen to all that ship. Well, I'm
saying I was.

Speaker 1 (03:22:39):
Living for him.

Speaker 3 (03:22:40):
He was living you know what I mean. I was
living through him. And at the same time, he knows ships,
he know us, he knows people, you know whatever. Whatever,
I got him on the right track. I kept him
on the right track. I'm like, nigga, you're not walking.
I walked. That's the whole purpose. I've been through that ship.

(03:23:01):
So I'm gonna protect you and I'm gonna guard you right.
You got me fire and I kept this little nigga
on the right track, you know what I mean. And
that's why I was supposed to do so, I think. So.
My whole point is saying that it comes from the home. Bro.
Parents got to put that into the fucking kids. Let
them know, I don't care what you listen to. Have

(03:23:21):
your fun. This nigga know everything.

Speaker 1 (03:23:23):
It shouldn't matter what they listen to. It shouldn't matter.

Speaker 5 (03:23:25):
You know, you can't bring that your home you know
what I mean. I'm gonna keep you focused. Don't be
no punk either, you know what I mean. But you
ain't gotta be out here like that. And this little
nigga is so good to me, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (03:23:39):
So I felt I did good with that, you.

Speaker 5 (03:23:41):
Know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (03:23:41):
So they come from the parents.

Speaker 5 (03:23:43):
That's my whole point.

Speaker 3 (03:23:44):
Great great man, come from home. That's my whole Yeah. Yeah,
thank you, brother, get that.

Speaker 5 (03:23:59):
Hey, So I don't.

Speaker 6 (03:24:02):
It's definitely not the music, though, bro.

Speaker 4 (03:24:05):
Because let me let me ask you, because I know
this might be a little touchy situation, but we had
specially let on here, especially as said that n w
A was led to the destruction of black people a
lot of people.

Speaker 5 (03:24:20):
I think he said the music to the music, Yeah,
he said the m instructure of the music industry.

Speaker 1 (03:24:27):
Right, what do you say, remember exactly?

Speaker 4 (03:24:29):
Yeah, please correct me.

Speaker 3 (03:24:31):
It wasn't black people.

Speaker 5 (03:24:38):
Yeah, yeah, that's what I got out of it. I mean,
I don't, I don't, I don't, Okay. So I thought
about this too when I when I saw him say it.
I think because he was there at that time, he
was ed was there. We weren't there we weren't there

(03:24:58):
wasn't there were aren't there. So you're saying he saw
the shift, We didn't see it. We were just enjoying
n w A. We were enjoying special. We were enjoying
everything else, the good music, the happy music, the party music, whatever.
He saw the shift, we didn't see that, So you
know what I'm saying. So I still feel the same
way about n w A that I did when I
first heard him. That's the ship, you know what I'm saying.

(03:25:22):
It didn't make me go. I mean, they were saying
fuck the police, but I've always said the police before
they said police.

Speaker 1 (03:25:37):
But my point is, you got a sippy, it don't
count you.

Speaker 6 (03:25:42):
To My point is my point is.

Speaker 5 (03:25:47):
Because I said the police before I even heard them
say fuck the police, you know what I'm saying, So
they didn't make me say.

Speaker 1 (03:25:53):
I think he was going into a deeper because the
surface of it.

Speaker 5 (03:25:57):
But what I'm saying is because he was there, that's
why he had to feel. Neither one of us was there,
you know what I'm saying. We weren't an artist at
the time, so we don't know.

Speaker 3 (03:26:06):
What he said.

Speaker 1 (03:26:07):
We were just to do that.

Speaker 4 (03:26:08):
I was the quietest I've ever been on drink Champs
because I did not know. I didn't know how to
debate him, refute him, or.

Speaker 1 (03:26:17):
Well he was.

Speaker 7 (03:26:17):
He was so much in his conviction that both of
us were just like, let's let him be. Let him
live in his conviction.

Speaker 3 (03:26:25):
Like you said, I don't know he was there.

Speaker 7 (03:26:28):
Bro, but it feels like so much more to unpacked
from just throwing that out there.

Speaker 3 (03:26:33):
Right.

Speaker 5 (03:26:34):
But what I mean what I mean by he was there,
he was an artist at the time. So if the shift,
if he felt the effect of the shift, he felt it.
Us as fans, we didn't feel it.

Speaker 1 (03:26:46):
I was a kid, kid, We're all kids. It's like
you said, I said for the police, but I was
saying for the holies before.

Speaker 3 (03:26:54):

Speaker 5 (03:26:55):
So I mean and and and especially as some title
to everybody his truth, whatever his truth is truth, you
know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (03:27:03):
In the West Coast to lose and.

Speaker 5 (03:27:04):
I like I say, I say, I say das or
get on the joint, well on a on a live
or whatever and talk to him about it. But yeah,
I think it's just just his feeling, you know what
I'm saying, of being in the business at the time
and watch the whole shift.

Speaker 3 (03:27:21):
You know what I'm saying, it affected him.

Speaker 1 (03:27:23):
I think we could all understand what he was trying
to say. Yeah, what he was saying.

Speaker 7 (03:27:27):
But I just feel like it's too simplistic of a
thing to say when it's so more complex than n
w A.

Speaker 1 (03:27:35):
Right, you know what I'm saying, There's so much more.
You can't just put it on n w A.

Speaker 5 (03:27:39):
You know what I'm saying, Maybe you should have said
it different, right, which is what he's saying, sort of
explanation about it.

Speaker 2 (03:27:47):
Why, which which might be. To be honest with you,
I don't want to put it on special. I want
to put it on us.

Speaker 7 (03:27:52):
We should have expanded, We should have We should have
and you know what I should We should have said, well,
let's let's converse about this, let's let's have more of
a dialogue on it.

Speaker 4 (03:28:01):
Was the other websites grabbed that, of course, and then
they yeah, we didn't. We didn't just said that, right,
we just said that on the website.

Speaker 3 (03:28:09):
Yeah, we didn't want the media bro.

Speaker 1 (03:28:11):
Yeah, no, we didn't promote that.

Speaker 4 (03:28:12):
And the reason why we didn't address that and say
that that wasn't our headline is because like there's so
many things of our show, like this, this footage of
Little Wayne sniffing coke on our show, the way he
sniff excuse me, what do you say? I was about
to say the way he said that. No, yeah, but no,

(03:28:37):
this is what this is what exactly what happened. Lil
Wayne put his asses out, I know. And when he
put his asses out, he went like this, oh yeah,
and when he did that, people reversed it the other way.

Speaker 1 (03:28:48):
Yeah, yeah, I forget it. It didn't look like he
was like this, and I was just like, whoa, I
even feel I said, did this happen? You know, we're drunk,
we don't remember. Oh ship.

Speaker 4 (03:29:03):
Of Floyd Maywell, who's my favorite box of all times?
And they they spelling goat the wrong way? G A,
oh that that was a they did some day they
did that, and I'm looking and I'm like, I always
wanted to correct that because I was like, yo, like
Floyd or Wayne didn't kind if I have to address
one room, I got to address them all. So that's

(03:29:27):
the reason why yeah, yeah, yeah, I got you.

Speaker 1 (03:29:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (03:29:29):
The thing is is nobody takes the time to watch
the original source. So like even with the specialized situation,
like go watch the whole interview and then discuss it,
but don't take a clip clip. They're gonna clip it
to the moment that it's gonna entice you to have
a moment with it. And then everybody starts, go watch
the whole ship.

Speaker 2 (03:29:50):
Promotion and that's what and we all we all enjoyed
my right. So it's kind of crazy when it's used
against us. You know what I'm saying, I.

Speaker 3 (03:29:57):
Got it, I got it.

Speaker 4 (03:29:58):
It's so about who got gun?

Speaker 6 (03:30:00):
Oh what a record?

Speaker 5 (03:30:03):
Right?

Speaker 3 (03:30:04):
Gang Star? Not real life?

Speaker 1 (03:30:08):
He said, well the record right game? Yes, yeah, yeah,
to think about it. Let me.

Speaker 3 (03:30:16):
Gang Star featuring m O. P and Fat Joe.

Speaker 5 (03:30:20):
I remember coming in the studio not knowing that we
were going to be doing a record. But when I
walk in the studio, prem go, I need to get
y'all on this record. Press play. Yeah for me, it's
so dope playing like this fire Fire. I think Joe
was actually at the studio too. He had studio ladies,

(03:30:44):
Ladies verse.

Speaker 3 (03:30:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But when Joe's first come on.

Speaker 1 (03:30:53):
Fire, first time.

Speaker 5 (03:30:55):
Show game stupid, stupid, but his voice is so dope.
I'm a music nigga bro. His voice is so dope.
And then Guru Google got probably one of the dopest
voices ever in hip hop.

Speaker 1 (03:31:12):
Effort, Effort. Who was the drinker too?

Speaker 3 (03:31:15):
He wasn't nothing to funk.

Speaker 1 (03:31:16):
He was serious, he was he was the first drink.

Speaker 6 (03:31:18):
He was the first drink, one of the originals.

Speaker 5 (03:31:23):
Yeah, but yeah, just the on a DJ premiere be like,
you can't you can't go wrong from from public right
from the public opinion, like m O P on the
DJ premiere beat. Guru is perfect for fact joe who
represents everything.

Speaker 3 (03:31:43):
That just a lot for me. For me, it was
just a line up with Joey, Joey and Guru on
the record because Joey like we used to when Nigga
when we're talking about how about some hardcore days nigga,
you know them them Turcht squad niggas ship Yeah yeah.

Speaker 5 (03:32:00):
But not right right right.

Speaker 3 (03:32:03):
Hawaiian.

Speaker 1 (03:32:04):
But but we connect, we never clash, like.

Speaker 3 (03:32:07):
Every time we show each other love, you know what
I mean. So just knowing that, so I always want
to be on the record with Joey and then then Google,
you know, that's that's you know, that's the heart. So
that ship came out amazing. That's a that's the dope record.
We have that record. We've been doing that record in
the m O P set for the last ten years.

(03:32:28):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 7 (03:32:30):
Would you guys consider yourself official unofficial d I T c.

Speaker 1 (03:32:36):
Mm hmmm, because you're so official.

Speaker 3 (03:32:39):
Without being in the group official, because I love you.

Speaker 5 (03:32:42):
Show this next shout out to show it's amazing.

Speaker 1 (03:32:47):
Ye down one of the best cruising hip hop.

Speaker 5 (03:32:56):
That's all found.

Speaker 3 (03:32:59):
Media. Family, big big piece of Joe Joe yeah, healthy Joe.

Speaker 4 (03:33:04):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:33:05):
You can't call on fat Joe.

Speaker 5 (03:33:07):
You can't family, right.

Speaker 7 (03:33:09):
You guys are a part of all of it. You
guys were doing these records with all these guys.

Speaker 3 (03:33:12):
Yeah yeah, and we loved it. Man. It was a
great time, right like we it was a good time
in hip hop music.

Speaker 5 (03:33:19):
Man. It wasn't We had our competition, but it was
fromly competition, right Like when I heard when I heard
that what what what what nigga, I was like this, nigga.

Speaker 4 (03:33:28):
Wait wait finished, But let me tell you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (03:33:33):
I said it in an intro.

Speaker 5 (03:33:34):
But I drink.

Speaker 1 (03:33:38):
And I don't even drink like that clashes.

Speaker 3 (03:33:44):
I got to do got to do it.

Speaker 4 (03:33:57):
I want to tell y'all as a man here, y'all,
I know it changed Mob Deep ho juvenile Health, how think. Wow,
they changed their whole ship. That's a big deal and
that's in my opinion. And we kind of follow Mob Deep.

(03:34:17):
So in a lot of ways. If it wasn't for
m P, the wouldn't be a Mob Deep, and it
wasn't for a Mob Deep, it would be a compon,
and it wasn't for a component of RDE, it would
wouldn't be a Drink Champs. Wow, y'all, y'all, anytime you

(03:34:39):
want to promote anything like I sincerely and I reached
out to both of you brothers. I was so excited.
I'm so I am still so. I don't hate no artiststen,
don't make me pull out. I got old text mission
bill going back years. Let's go on Drink Champs. But listen,
I don't speak to no artists because I just I
don't like before the show because I just want them

(03:35:01):
to come in and organic. You're probably the first ones I.

Speaker 1 (03:35:04):
Just was hitting like you're good, make sure you're good, you.

Speaker 4 (03:35:08):
Want any drinks, any specific thing, because I really wanted
to do this interview the best to our ability because
it's not And like I said, y'all are my friends,
but it's not because y'are my friends. It's because y'all
deserve this ship. Y'all deserve this.

Speaker 3 (03:35:28):
Look.

Speaker 4 (03:35:28):
You gotta deserve the love, deserve the respect, and like
I told you earlier, it takes nothing away from me
to give y'all the exact do props that y'all deserve,
and y'all really do deserve this. Before we get up

(03:35:52):
out of here, what's the next for MOP? We know
Michael Rockport is shooting the documentary.

Speaker 3 (03:36:03):
You got a nice establishment up here, right, thank you?

Speaker 1 (03:36:09):
No, no, no, but tell us what's not to fuck
me up? I'm going to flip this upation from so
what's next?

Speaker 4 (03:36:18):
Form ob Man?

Speaker 1 (03:36:19):
Tell us more before we get.

Speaker 3 (03:36:21):
About more touring? Right next month, were back.

Speaker 5 (03:36:24):
We're back overseas and like Fame said, which is really
more important that the studio just started back working.

Speaker 6 (03:36:32):
With the organ the whole album Fame with justin the studio.

Speaker 5 (03:36:36):
With the last week, we pull it together, we build it,
you show it's coming together, you build it up.

Speaker 3 (03:36:43):
I think I think an M O P.

Speaker 6 (03:36:44):
Album right now is it's needed it's needed, it's needed.

Speaker 5 (03:36:48):
I do gotta say this though, and I'm okay, Like
we're okay with where we are in our life, but
when it comes to us making music, like as fans
like I need if you're gonna if you're gonna say
you support, I need you to support. Right, if you're
gonna say you support, I need you to support. I mean,

(03:37:09):
it takes a lot for us to write records, right,
take it a lot for us to get them done.

Speaker 3 (03:37:13):
We gotta go get them done. We've gotta put the
work in.

Speaker 5 (03:37:16):
Yeah, put the most amazing record together that you that
you can put it out, get the you know, you
get to get the uh the promo and all that situated,
get the video done, put it out, and all you're
gonna give me is a fucking fire e mooji. I'm
gonna a little more than that a little more so
if you're gonna support, support, you know what I'm saying.

(03:37:38):
So we'll definitely get all that mop album blessed.

Speaker 6 (03:37:41):
Yes, Yeah, I know.

Speaker 3 (03:37:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (03:37:52):
Drink Champs is a Drink Champs ll C production and
association with Interval Presents, hosts and executive producers n O.
R E and DJ E FN from Interval Presents Executive
producers Alan Coy and Jake Kleinberg.

Speaker 1 (03:38:08):
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Speaker 7 (03:38:09):
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(03:38:30):
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