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February 23, 2024 โ€ข 164 mins

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs in this episode the champs chop it up with the legendary, Rohan Marley!

Rohan, the son of the icon Bob Marley joins us to share his journey and stories of his father. Rohan Marley shares stories of his legendary family, the beliefs of Rastafari, Lion Order and much much more!

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Speaker 1 (00:11):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
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Speaker 4 (00:32):
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Speaker 1 (00:37):
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Speaker 2 (00:44):
What it should be?

Speaker 1 (00:44):
This is your boy in O r E? What up
is dj E f N?

Speaker 2 (00:47):
And this is mill to take me crazy wor Happy
Hour drink Champs Happy Hours up. Now, when you speak
about this person that we were introducing, we talk about,
oh shit, we didn't even have to champagne and we
still be so excited to start. We just went this
is royalty. When I say royalty, this is real, real royalty.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
The man owns a hotel. Father's a legend, legend.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
You gotta say legend icon. It's crazy about it. Dropping
a movie.

Speaker 5 (01:26):
On Valentine's today and today and today is Bob fucking
Molly's birthday. And we got in case you don't know
who we're talking about, were talking about the one the
only first off, I gotta to have a drink till

till Bob Molly.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
You know what's the crazy thing is a lot of
us felt like Bob mar It was our father. So
it's like you shared him with the world because like
there's no place on earth I can't go and Bob
Marley record won't play no place. And let me tell

you something me, I've tested it. I lived by my
white people. I tested it myself. You can play that
music at a disrespectful level. You can play it all
the way up. There's not one person that's gonna say
turn it down, not one. I've tried it numerous times
with the cool white people, with the people who look racist,

for the people who might not be, but they are.
They used to be in the maund and I put
on any you have been with me, you've been with
me and with his dreads and his dreads, and they
don't get offended.

Speaker 1 (02:48):

Speaker 2 (02:49):
That's like, yes, did you ever realize how much of
global music he was making?

Speaker 3 (02:54):
You know?

Speaker 6 (02:56):
To your point still growing up right, I had to
come to terms with what you just said, you know
what I mean, being that you know our father, it
is not just.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
My father, you know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (03:09):
So one a time I had to really like be
like wow, you know, and it was a point in
life where there was an instance that kind of kind
of put us in our place.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
And it was one day.

Speaker 6 (03:23):
Most of the times at Hope Prode in Jamaica, at
my dad's place, everyone come check him, you know, like
if you need any type of help, you know, utes
from the streets. This particular day though, these guys Hope
Bob my museum what it's called today, But these youths

right growing up there were three boys, but there are
also acrobats. So during the week they'll come to Hope
pro and they do all kind of flips and singing.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
You know everybody no.

Speaker 6 (03:58):
On the hustle you watch the wind Street, Yeah, you
know the good boys.

Speaker 1 (04:03):

Speaker 6 (04:03):
So one Sunday, now my brother and I Stephen, we're
in Hope Rod and you know, this is a Sunday man.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
And they showed up at the gate. So we kind
of walked down.

Speaker 6 (04:16):
To the gate and kind of told them, I said,
we said, listen today, it's it's our day.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
You know, you can't take take his own guy.

Speaker 6 (04:29):
We didn't say that, but so but our dad he
was kind of watching us from upstairs, so he called us,
Stephen Rohan, come upstairs, go upstairs. Now, he said, you
see those boys outside, let them inside.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
And this is the street guys. Okay.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
And at the time there was.

Speaker 6 (04:49):
A guy like on Sundays the ice cream man come
around and he write a little fudgy fudgy write a
little bike, you know, with the fudge on the back,
the ice cream on the back. He says, see the
boys go downstairs by them all ice cream and watch
them eat ice cream.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
So, you know, as.

Speaker 6 (05:04):
Youth, and you know, my father is kind of is
you know, when he talks, he talks strong, so you're
kind of shaking. So but what we realize is that
our father really was trying to teach us a lesson
that it wasn't just about you know, his children on
the inside. It's about the children that don't have anymore,

you know what I mean. So right then and there
we learned the principles about you know, when you have,
you have to share. That was a and yeah, and
that's and that's kind of us. His rule to those youths.
It wasn't even about us. It's about, like you said,
how those youths. So my father in regards to what

you do for them as youth just growing up, you know.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
So it was we're kind of in the way.

Speaker 6 (05:50):
He didn't come to see us.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
But I'm gonna be bounce around a little bit because
when you look at all these bioptery movies, these these pictures. Yeah,
and one of the people that say one of the
most most accurvated, most on point one is the Straight
out of Compton one. And everyone is saying that's because
you know, ice Cube and people were there to somewhat

guide them to what to talk about. Is this something
that you had to do with this movie that because
you know, the family as a whole, this.

Speaker 6 (06:21):
This movie right our brother Ziggy, big brother Ziggy. It's
been in the works for five years.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Oh wow.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
You know he's also the.

Speaker 6 (06:30):
One that was mainly behind Marley's documentary. I'll just watched
that yeah on the Sheriff. No, not that one that
went Marley's call. That one is we don't know who
did that one, but it's out there. But as far
as family, you know, and then this one now Finally
when Ziggy, you know, did all the research, find the

right people that the cast and all the things that
he needed for the film, got the money he needed
to make the film happen, you know, he did that
and most importantly the relationship that we have when normally
the cast members, but the main actor, the actress, the
producers and some of the directors. It was just very

very much an intimate film, you know, and very personable
because we're able to kind of talk to Kingsley about,
you know, some of our dad's ways and like attitudes, mannerism,
and Kingsley himself he's.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
So pointing on as an actor, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
He means well, just as.

Speaker 6 (07:39):
A yeah, because of craft, you know, that's a scraft,
but to be able to tap in and reach that
level where it's truly impressive, bro, and we love that.
And this film, as he said, it's really a family
certified family made, you know, Ziggie, Sidela, Mama, Rita, the
entire family, myself, Stephen, you know, we're we're always there

and support all the brothers, sisters, So it's really a
family unting as well as my dad's friends, right the
sons of the musicians are playing their dads. A lot
of Yeah, it's a lot of costs is Jamaica. And
then again, the amount of people that were able to

like get a job in Jamaica because of the movie
your cousin the.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
Movie is another good thing. We're probably that.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
So he's still working from heaven. He's still working from heaven.
So that's one of the things that me knowing that
I was going to interview you, I was just doing
search like a lot of your father's concerts. And one
thing that you can tell, everybody claimed Bob Molly, white people,

black people, like everyone felt that a piece of him,
you know what I mean, like that, that's that's crazy.

Speaker 6 (09:05):
Yeah, the main thing is is about the truth, you know,
and a man like our father, this man lived for
that purpose, you know. And when you're you're a musician,
you know, you you know the thing music in general,
and you know what music is. It's a vehicle and

we choose to deliver the message or we choose to
deliver it and we choose to say what we.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
Want to say.

Speaker 6 (09:31):
We see you Rastafar, I know, and what that means
to our father and us as Rastafari people, us as
a people in general, human beings, you know, and the
ones that really want to represent that human being. Movement
is like that, like so to sol a movement that's
kind of all father, and that's what he really stand
up for is a man of his word, like what

he says, what he does, you know, and still does it,
you know. And and that's the important thing. So I
feel like said that truth within that message is that
connection to a people that seek a certain way of life,
wants this type of liberty, you know, because it's a

passion within the liberty, you know. And the most important
thing is the truth that we utter, you know. So
when you find people that stick to them things that
it kind of resonates to everyone. And that's why we
say one love, you know.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
Yeah, because that became more than music. It transcended the music.
It became a global movement, absolutely, yeah. And it's a
god movement.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
You know.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
It's funny that you said that I was watching the documentary,
and I kid you not, I'm not being funny. I
thought I was looking at Jesus man. I literally was
looking at Bob like this is what I.

Speaker 6 (10:53):
Think Jesus looked like seeing and with Rastafar eye you know,
that's really.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
The way of life.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
And it's and.

Speaker 6 (11:01):
Why we why we resonate like that, and why we
have this consonance and and this presence is because of
the Old Testament and.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
As Rasta for people who try to follow.

Speaker 6 (11:13):
The naza right vowel that we have the Nazarene and yes,
subscribes himself as a naz right. So we we try
or or or daily life as much as we can.
We're not perfect, you know, but our daily life is
to follow that order. And it's a Nazara, it's a
nazer right vowel. You know we were relax.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
You know, there raise on.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
Your face certain things, what you eat and this so
Roster's we catch with shrimp every now and those everything
you go through as you growing up, you're not supposed
to eat that, you know, that's the kind of so

you you as raster fire people, as Jamaicans in Jenner,
we make fun of what you eat, your rasta, don't
do this, don't do that, and then you have to
and then again with the Marlin name, with that Rastafari,
it's double.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
You must have never had a glissy before in your life, right,
what's that?

Speaker 1 (12:16):
Frank? What's that.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
I can't say that.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
I can't.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
Based on what you're saying about, like it's double for you.
Did it ever feel like a burden the legacy that
that was like put upon you and your and your siblings.

Speaker 6 (12:51):
I would never see a burden because it's really the
I would never see a burden because it's really the
way of the truth, you know, and it's really discipline
and just wanted to keep your father's ways. So it's
really an alignment and proud of it because you know,
we all, you know, read the Bible, we all do

these things. So if you can find a way of
life that's alignment towards that and as a culture is
a lifestyle which is such we're proud of that, you know.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
So it's never a burden.

Speaker 6 (13:25):
It's a lesson and it's a way of life and
it's the way we choose to live and the way
we want to live because we feel good about it.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
You know.

Speaker 6 (13:33):
So it's a goodness and it's like the way of
the lion, like a king order.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
Real self.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
Now, I was watching going back to the documentary, at
one point Bob moved to London and to this day,
to this day, it's a lot of Rastafaris in Jamaican
people in London. Is that when they when they first
started going there, when Bob went there the.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
Column No remember.

Speaker 6 (14:05):
Remember like World War two, Jamaicans fought in World War
two with the British because you know said it's it's
you know, it's once underneath the British Commonwealth. Right, So
Jamaicans travel there because at one point before late sixties seven,
early seventies, Jamaicans and need a visa to go to London.

They did, right, wow, so a lot of work and
such and such.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
So a lot of four parents are in London, you know.

Speaker 6 (14:35):
You know, it was a regular thing for Jamaican families
to receive things from England, like before America.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
Drain our friend Dre he's from London. Yeah, that's why.

Speaker 6 (14:48):
That's Jamaican culture in London is like really close that
you know, even as slang. So it was and then
again music in general, you know, but my father went there.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
With like intention to make music like.

Speaker 6 (15:06):
Really an exile because of the assassination attempt.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
To exit this album right yeah, yes, yeah, you know
you know remember you you're very well studied, you know.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Yeah, don't let me. I got you. I got you pardon, pardon,
I know normally drink what we praising you. Today our
show was about giving people they flowers we want to
give you. We want to give your flowers. Right there
snoop like you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (15:40):
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Speaker 1 (16:01):
Sometimes m h.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
I remember p Pardoner drinking yes. So I remember you
know rappers right seeing having we're having a love hate
relationship with our city and we remember me thinking that
that that's something that's new. But I remember seeing just
now on an interview where Bob was just done with Jamaica.

At one point he was like, man, I ain't messing
with Jamaica and I was like, damn, Bob, we do
the ship that I'm going through then, and I'm like
I'm like wow. And that's where he went to London
and that's when he started went to South Africa.

Speaker 6 (16:43):
Imagine this right, It's like I watched like for instance,
the movie and I'm not going to refer to this
movie because something just happened to me in London was Paris,
you know, for the premiere, and I'm watching that exact
reference that you just made in being told in the movie,

you know, and it made me very emotional because of
what my father said and what he represents. You know,
it made me truly emotional because here is the man
where his gates are open to every and everyone. He
came from nothing, you know, and everything that he ever
created or stood for represent the people. Pardon me, And

here's this man that's helping so much people and the
same people that you're helping, the same people that you're
fighting to uplift and bring together, allow themselves to be
manipulated by a systematic way by politics to feel that
it's right to try and take a man's life.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
You know.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
So that's really the emotion of that. So when my
father saying done with Jamaica, it was.

Speaker 6 (17:57):
In the moment he's never done with Jamaica, you know
what I mean, In the moment says like it kind
of it kind of screwed.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
You know.

Speaker 6 (18:05):
It's a rule for that, and you know, so you
take out a journey and I sing some love songs.
He's like, you know, this revolution might be a one
month team.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
You know what's ill about that is when you look
at the political history in Jamaica, it's like almost it's
almost like bloods and crips the politics and a lot
of the lot of the rest of the world. Like
I've seen you you see Randy Aka from Depth jam Jamaica.
Since I did a video with Lexus and Wayne Wonder

and Tivoli Gardens, the most scaredest I have ever been
in my life, the most scaredest I have ever been.
Like literally, this was what do you call it? Body
mon Town Jarrison, Like everybody had a gun on them
and I was like, and they told me, they said, man,
you're safe, but I was like, I just didn't feel safe.

Speaker 6 (19:04):
But still because nothing nothing with you, right, I mean
remember Jimmy and people are people have principal when they're
being rued, they're ruted principal.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
I go out, they told me against black Boy, you
know me that off top.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
So was I landed in Jamaica. This lady she came
right over me. She she jumped over my whole foot
with the shopping cart and then she looked at me
like what I want, Yankee? Boy, you got it?

Speaker 1 (19:31):
Got laugh.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
Anyone else I seen that, know more all over the place.
I've seen the Chinese Jamaican Oh yeah, you know. And
boy was he he was offended. I was like, you
we don't talk like that.

Speaker 6 (19:52):
Years in Jamaica, years as the Indian Indian people. So
we have for fifth generation Chinese. And you know, so
a lot of my friends, you know, they look like
you and I they look like you.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (20:08):
And last thing one shout out Waggy Tea here my
first turn off another Chinese Jamaican Jamaica. Jamaican restaurants are Jamaican.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
M VP records.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah big in the culture,
super huge, super huge. Tager bone is real. Not the way,
not the way we tread it out. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
So you got you got this hotel, Like I believe
you're the only person I know that owns the hotel.
You you flost on me one night He's like, hey, man,
you know I got this hotel in Mexico.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
You know me?

Speaker 2 (20:49):
I was like that was that was an entrepreneur.

Speaker 6 (20:53):
He's an entrepreneur world and everything you do in life.
I believe in opportunities, you know, and everyone always say, oh, come,
we don't have one in Jamaica. I said, well, no
one in Jamaica offered me, you know, so I took
the opportunity. And it started long ago with the same
malikof relationship. And it's the same partner as a five

hotel group. They were building a hotel and they wanted
me to be a part of it.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
And you know, I take. I took a look at
the place that's the.

Speaker 6 (21:25):
Right outside of cankun a place called Portamrellus Okay, between
Cankuon and Pli Carmen, Okay. So like man, I'll say,
forty five minutes from touloum Okay cool, twenty minutes.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
From the airport.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
Oh wow.

Speaker 6 (21:37):
As he land in Kankuon, was right there, nice beach
protected area, the reef is protected, the mangols are protected nicely,
the fishing village and ninety two rooms and you know,
so it's a tiki very so very so let's do.
There's a great opportunity. Opened in twenty twenty. It was

a skier with all the thinks that were happening, absolutely,
but it survived and with the help of a lot
of my friends and I and I that's supporting one
in each other, you know, spread the message and it
got out there more and you know, people seem to
like going down there in Mexico.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
And I like it too.

Speaker 6 (22:16):
I absolutely love It's. Yeah, tig up to Romary Beach House. Well,
it's really the fives and Romary Beach House, you know
what I mean. It's a collaboration type of efforts.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
Collaborative And had you been going to Mexico like before that, Yeah,
not really not.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
It wasn't my thing.

Speaker 6 (22:43):
But I met these I met these brothers in New
York City in like early twenty sixteen, and at the time,
I was really focused on Marty Coffee and I was
trying to build some coffee shops. So the Brethren, you know, hey,
we're building a hotel. You like to put one of
your coffee shops in our hotel. So I took the
opportunity again and I said, yeah, I'd love that. And

then you go see this just to put the coffee
in the hotel. Yeah at first, Okay.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
So they did that and then they said, you know,
we're building.

Speaker 6 (23:11):
This hotel where we're going to open up a new project.
We're building a new hotel on the beach in PORTUMARRELLUS.
It's really a little you know, it's a smaller hotel.
Would you like to you know, we don't know what
to call it.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
What do you want to?

Speaker 6 (23:22):
What do you thought when you think about calling Roman
the beach House. We came with that name because you know,
it was on the beach, near the beach.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
It's on the beach.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
It's academy on the Caribbean. Yeah, man, So we love
it down there, and it's really nice because when you
think about Mexico and then place, you have to think
about Africa and Afro Mexico because.

Speaker 6 (23:50):
From the early times after all mixed. And then I
learned a lot too, because I learned that when I
found myself in Mexico. I started to realize that, wow,
we're all part of the I'maridian culture from the early times,
because that's the Americas. So it's a part of the Caribbean.
So then I go again and look at Barbados. It's
right there, and that's everything. It's part of the whole

i'm Aridian you know, this part of the.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
World, you know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (24:18):
So it's just really extending the culture and realizing that
earth is a lot and its fullness thereof so wherever
we are, wherever we go, it is home. And we
felt very good there and we feel at home in
Mexico as well like anywhere else.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
That's yeah, man, I love it. I love Mexico. Big up,
big up to Mexico.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
So when I when I researched, like you know, the
stuff that I know about Rastafarian culture, it brings you
to Helly Selassie, which brings you to Ethiopia. Right, what
brings you to Africa?

Speaker 1 (24:52):

Speaker 2 (24:52):
What is the correlation? And we know all men come
from Africa? Right, but wise is like Jamaica and Africa's
relationship like, so is it be close to the highly Selassie?

Speaker 6 (25:07):
Well, it started with Marcus Garvey Marcus, that's right. And
then you know those early times in general as cultural
people and the history of Jamaica with like all of
the Maroons, the early Maroons who fought against the British
for their independence and never got conquered by the Brits.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
So we were always like rebellious people, you know.

Speaker 6 (25:32):
So during the time when Marcus Goviy early I said
before the nineteen.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
Thirties, when Marcus Govey was.

Speaker 6 (25:40):
Healing and building his movement in Harlem and throughout the
world and studying in England and traveling the earth. Marcus
Govey learned about the crowning of the Emperor highly s
last in the First which would take place in nineteen thirty.
So Marcus Garvey being Jamaica and returned to the Jamaica
and told the black people of Jamaica that we black

people in the Western Hemisphere should look towards the east
for the crowning of a black king, our King, our Christ.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
And our God Almighty.

Speaker 6 (26:15):
So it says in Revelation that you will be crowned
king of kings, lords of lords, concurrent line of a
tribe of Judah, elect.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
Of God himself.

Speaker 6 (26:24):
So when Marcus Govi said that, iron, I know, as
black people in the Western Hemisphere, there's another brethren whose
name is Howell, who's really started the Rastafari movement.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
Leonard Howell. Don't quote me on the exact name.

Speaker 2 (26:41):

Speaker 1 (26:41):
Yeah, you can find this name on the Google.

Speaker 6 (26:44):
But then the movement started and then we as black
people in the Western Hemisphere started to look towards Ethiopia.
The crowning of the King as our God, and we
started to follow that the ways of Ethiopia because we
knew that now that me and Ethiopia is the first
place to really follow, yes, as Christ. In four AD

when the Eunich met Philip and told Queen Candace about
this great man, this great man that he met and
blah blah blah and such and such was Philip who
was a follower of Christ. And then he started Christianity
that time. Then, you know, so we as rasta Pharai people,
we look to Ethiopia and that's the Orthodox Church, which
is the faith of Rastapharai, if you ever asked about that.

So that's when it really started in nineteen thirty the
crowning of the King of Kings, and everyone knows this
in the world because every nation was there that day
and everyone ad to kneel and bow to that emperor.

Speaker 7 (27:40):
You know.

Speaker 6 (27:41):
Yes, it was a two hundred and twenty fifth lineage
of King David Seed of Jesse, and those two hundred
and twenty five kings are the kings that rule the earth.
So when we talk about earth, we have to talk
about the olden days and the Biblical ways. So we
follow the King David strown. We didn't follow Babylon thrown,

which was always trying to fight against King David Shroan,
if you know what I mean, Like you know all
the constantinoples, all their Roman Empire, all these guys that
never stopped, you know. So we have Rastafari people. We
represent King David thron and that is highly Selastic thrown.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
And that's how we come to say highest Selassie is
who we calls in people. Majesty is what.

Speaker 6 (28:29):
We call the Almighty God himself and a living flesh.
So that's how we were able to like manifest our
flesh this way by that teaching of this great man
who manifests the God within himself at the highest order.
So we believe upon that and we live upon that.
And those are where we get our teachings. And those
are the teachings we follow. So other people have other

teachings that they follow. And sometimes you stumble, like your
teaching make it make you stumble.

Speaker 3 (28:56):
This one keeps us more upright, I didn't have while
he was still alive? Right, who classie? I wasn't he
still alive?

Speaker 2 (29:05):
When I when?

Speaker 1 (29:06):
When when people start to follow him in Jamaica.

Speaker 6 (29:08):
His majesty is forever living, and absolutely so. But his
myjest is forever living.

Speaker 7 (29:13):
You know.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
Yeah, yes, I.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
Think they they I think they did a study and
they said that his blood is actually related to Jesus Christ.

Speaker 6 (29:23):
Say, that's why I mentioned to you the lineage of
King David. And then within that lineage there's two hundred
and twenty five king. And you have Abraham, Moses, and
you have Yes Sirs Christ himself, you have like h
like you have Salomon, you have David and his majesties
are part of that lineage.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
And that's why I talked about King David's thrown. And
that's same as Christ in his kingly character, right, and
Christ in the flesh. So all the Christ, all the
Christ consciousness, the great kings of this earth, who took
on the Christ consciousness. Who are the heads of this government?

Speaker 6 (29:57):
Who have who have the shoulders of the almighty God
and the rule of this government with the God law?

Speaker 1 (30:02):
You know, the ancient Abramic law. You know that's the law.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
You know what I believe? Yes, look like you don't
look at me like that, girl. I believe like in
years to come, they will talk about Tupac the same
way they will talk about like because when you look
at when you look at let me stick with ball,
when you look at the history of how he did this,

this was all righteous. This was like you know, when
you go look at all these interviews and you go
look at these everything that he said something one time
he said, they love you so much they'll kill you.
And I was like, what the fuck because love and
hate is kind of almost the same thing. But he

said he said, sometimes they can love you so much
that they'll kill you. And I couldn't distinguish if he
said they'll kill you like meaning himself or all just
that love itself.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
Like this is all biblical factual, And you.

Speaker 6 (31:05):
Know, he said something so important because man himself, right,
like we talk about man. We're flesh, but man have
like an ideology, right, and some men have good ideology
and good dreams that we tappen into a certain frequency.
And you talk about like Tupac, you know, but we're
not talking about Tupac that you see walking on the street.

We're talking about the two Pac that you see speaking
a thing, a saying as something. And that's what each
of us have as beings in general. Right, because we
have that goodness that we're made from because we are
made from love and you have you have to make
love to produce that.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
Damn. You got a lot of them out there. DMN
for real. You know, we know you are here club,
let's go.

Speaker 6 (31:52):
Yeah, we love that, And it's it's all what the
ones have to say that we try to like gravitate
towards you know, the man else and we finding good
in each other. So yeah, man, they're going to talk
about great ones that have had great things to say
and who always wanted to uplift people. So that's the
real purpose, you know, with the upliftment of people, you know,

and when you're speaking that yet now all the time,
you know, some of the times it kind of but
the we're going to focus on the good side of you,
you know, and that's what we all need to start
doing now and start focused on people goodness.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
You know what I mean? People like too much, don't
fall I leave it up forness. Now.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
Do you think do you think the CIA was really
like like tapping into Jamaica like that, because like when
you see years later, right, you see Malcolm X and
then years later there's actually studies that come out the show. Well,
Ceia set Malcolm X up and this rumor has never
been con form Can I ask you a question?

Speaker 6 (32:53):
Yes, o me, I'm a you know, I'm a tell
of person where I watched UFO.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
I mean, that's what you are about to say. It's amazing.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
You can't even call it conspiracy.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
They talk about it.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
I went watching UFO since the early nineteen nineties, you
did so.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
Anyway, when we.

Speaker 6 (33:16):
Talk about Jamaica in general, right, and we talked about
trade and waterways and entrance to a certain system, right,
the stream, the stream of like from how you have
to travel into like the money pool, right, you know,
coming from Africa down the street and blah blah blah,
and certain places that you have to hang out.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
Right, So Jamaica is like the little little small island is.

Speaker 6 (33:38):
Right in that little you gotta pass that place to
get into the wealth, right, the trades, the gates, it's
the gateway.

Speaker 3 (33:45):

Speaker 6 (33:46):
So what happened in Jamaica now in the early times
when the British Empire had a larger influence, before this
independence thing, you know, it was you know, Jamaica was like.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
A place where you really it is not too much violence.

Speaker 6 (34:01):
It wasn't now very in the sixties, Jamaica was so
peaceful and lovely.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
So when now the whole communist movement began, you know
that thing.

Speaker 6 (34:15):
And then the start now with the politicians, when the
independence came now and these two parties started to mingle.
One was like they call him a socialist, which was manly,
and the other one was like, uh, the prime minister, right, yeah,
the two of them, the same one that my dad,
Michael Wiley and Edward Siaga. So he was more like

c I that's right, you know, you know, you know that.
So one though, I would say it was like leaning
towards like cubash right.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
The Cuba wanted to make it to be New Cuba,
like even Jamaica met with.

Speaker 6 (34:54):
There were a lot of support there and then the
other personal So what happened was when now the gun
trade begun for the destabilization.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
They even had a gun court.

Speaker 6 (35:07):
Yeah, because now you started flood the place with guns
and cocaine. But this stabilization because they got to destabilize
the country because of what's happening, because these people are
worried about these people having this control because now you're
messing with the horn, right, you're messing with the money
run right. So if the if the Jamaicans become more

this way, then you're tapping into the Russia people again
where they're tapping into this thing, and then these people
are starting to take too much control of this little
home pry here.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
So that couldn't happen.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
So the KGB was and so yeah, that's the Russian,
that's the you know, the mafia, the CIA.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
Yeah and all that that.

Speaker 6 (35:51):
This stabilization is when the violence begun in the early seventies,
late late late late sixties. Now what was the two
parties j LP, DPNP and JLP Jamaica Labor Right Party
and the People's National Party. One color is orange and
the other one is green. I grew up in a
time where I live in a place called Spanish Town.

I'll never forget this this when I know like a
Spanish person is like in Spanish Town. So let me
tell you something.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
This one.

Speaker 6 (36:30):
I kind of knew, like my heart, like I kind
of knew I was like a good person. I just know,
I knew I was a good human being. I think
I was like ten years old and I remember it's
like it was like political times like very strong politics.

Speaker 1 (36:48):

Speaker 6 (36:49):
So these people tourists, they were driving along this main
road to get to like Montiga Bay, and if you
did not put up the sign of which hard to
you represented the people, they throwing stones at your car.

Speaker 2 (37:04):

Speaker 1 (37:05):
I remember watching.

Speaker 6 (37:06):
It, right, because that area was a labor right area
and I live in the midst of everything, and I
remember watching this, and I remember seeing the bridge and
them throwing the stones, and I remember to my heart,
I'm like, but those people don't know nothing, Like it's
my little self.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
I'm like wow. So that's when I realized if people
don't have no brain, they don't have they they don't
know this is what is this? It don't make no sense,
you know. So that's what happened.

Speaker 6 (37:36):
And that's what the stabilized the country's guns and foolishness
of politics. Because even when Marcus Garvey in the early times,
when Marcus Garvey was running for prime minister of Jamaica,
what they said caused him not to be the prime minister.
They went and offered to Jamaican people free rice and peace.

People love them, belly, it's never heard this one really
rice and peas. So it was offering It's a big
thing in Jamaican. This is Sunday Sunday. Every Jamaican and
every Jamaican eat rice.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
Some peas on Sunday, right, rice and bes on chicken
rice and be on this rice and bes on that.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
So it's a big thing. I've never been stuck for.
By the way, who has the best rice and peas?
Puerto Ricans Jamaicans? Hey, man, no, no.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
Hold on, you have rice and beans?

Speaker 2 (38:37):

Speaker 1 (38:37):
Oh ship damn good point. Good point. Did not realize
that who still got the best?

Speaker 6 (38:45):
You know, when I go to Puerto Rico, I eat
rice and beans, man, you know, you know when I'm
in Jamaica, I eat rice and peas, man.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
So I never had them side by side. Yeah, that's
called up. Holy I'm thinking about it. I'm thinking about it.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
But listen, Haiti is not in the category Nodus bro
bro I've been seeing because I'm ain't even trying to
throw they they had in the ring with the rice
and peace that got great rice and can't take somebody. Hey,
let me tell somebody, ship Haiti.

Speaker 6 (39:25):
Now, Haiti, you see what there is a see cuisine
wise because well not because off, but the mixture with
the French.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
Ye see what I'm saying. But there's no there's no
Haitian vegan food. Uh.

Speaker 6 (39:51):
First boys, Nico and my first daughter eat and Haitian.
He come bar and pressure on viill Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:06):

Speaker 2 (40:07):
Oh man, what's your favorite place to visit on your
spirit time? Like? For what? For anything? Like I have
different things I think about, Okay, for vacations, for vacation, vacation.

Speaker 6 (40:22):
Okay, Well you know I love the most. I love
the ocean, you know, m So I like going places
where from vacation. You said, not not that Sabbaticos.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
Yeah, you're not right. Just to relax, relax and hang out.
That's a big world. You want to ask you're going
to meditating stuff? Good stuff? Well, like let me see, Like,
for instance, I love going to Roman beats.

Speaker 6 (40:49):
Of course I love that. This year I had a
chance to visit Barbados. Barbatos, what's Brianna out there?

Speaker 1 (40:56):
Man? Rihattas is like she wasn't there, but you felt you.

Speaker 3 (41:00):
Know that, believe it.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
Even though I'm not to leave, believe whatever.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
He tells. I believe you call it bro no, but
for sure we had us right like I was there.

Speaker 6 (41:17):
I was into the red us vibe because she put
the place like from tourism perspective, it's, you know, people
want to visit and because they want to see where
she lived because it's very nice and the people love
her so much.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
So I love, I love, I just first time going.

Speaker 6 (41:32):
There for like like some business thing like a finn
They called it fintech like financial technology, some something good
good stuff. So that that was out there a bunch
of Caribbing people from Latin Americas, but they just got
out of the British Yeah, yeah, yeah, the prime minister
wanted is a prime minister know president right they broke away.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
From Yeah, everybody can't go independing now no, but it's
it's some of these guys got what they major labels, man, Man, listen,

Haiti's still fifty fifty.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
They were the first one.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
Yeah, they're still like we don't know, we.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
Shouldn't suppers because we don't know if we should have.

Speaker 6 (42:28):
You know that, and there he has it. It's holding
a lot of money. Yeah, I'm gonna be honest.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
Port We go scratch our heads sometimes, like we don't
know why we still on this major label. We definitely
made your label, man, Cuba become free. We were coming.
We're coming, broeh niggas you got some cube. Your mother's Cuban, right,

she was born in Cuba.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
You know.

Speaker 6 (42:59):
I got a lot of Cuba family and you know
my girlfriend and Cuban.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
I noticed you, he said, Cuban rice and peace.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
Though we don't say rice, and people say you don't
you about food is good when I go to the house,
when I go to the house of family, look me
up nice.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
Honestly, the Caribbean food is pretty much the same thing, bro,
We just call it different names.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
Well, this we all plans it.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
We like we all. Ma Marita is also Cuban. I'll
tell you this.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
This is a big difference.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
Though. My son went to Cuba.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
Really he went to Cuban. Yeah, you didn't know that, oh,
with your wife right right right? And he called me,
he said, where's the w dad. There was no a
c he did not it's not its on scrib right now. Yeah.
I couldn't explain to my son the ag this is
a few hotels everywhere, buddy, and he especially not a

was country man.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
He didn't know.

Speaker 8 (44:01):
He had to learn that day to Cuba, right, and
we booked the airbnb but I don't know where this
is going.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
No, it's good, okay, but the family, the family was
there too. I stayed with the family.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
So one of them.

Speaker 9 (44:25):
Let's go.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
I'm churning on the veranda. So I see the brethren
pull up in a little bicycle and he got the bread.
Oh wow, something like what Bridgin?

Speaker 2 (44:36):

Speaker 6 (44:37):
I said, you know you got I said, what brigand doing?
He said, Now you know they still do that where
the partitioner of the food. Yeah, they still do that
when they drive around and they give you a certain
bag of food.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
Man. I was like, wow. Man. So but it was
cool with being in Cuba and being able to see
that the people they're amazing.

Speaker 6 (45:00):
You weren't living in It wasn't like that anymore. It
was a balance. So you can still have that, but
they still do, you know what I mean. So it's
very nice. But if you want to see, like if
you ever want to see some good culture man and
some good some good architect gus go.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
To Cuba and the bubble and.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
Also proves the point that Latinos are of African descent.

Speaker 3 (45:26):
Absolutely, there's the culture that we have is all African descents.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
A place in Porto Rico like that, Louisa. You have
ever been to Louisa. Louisa, everyone like I'm light skinned,
insidered like, yeah, everyone is there, so it's Cuba.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
It's definitely. Yeah. You know something though, I'm one of
those people were how about Columbia?

Speaker 2 (45:46):
My bad? I mean, I've been there, Like Columbia. I
don't like to talk about it too much. Ship, I'm sorry.
Look at the face the Columbia came up immediately he's
telling him, No, Columbia too much.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
I actually went there for themselves. Is that what they
call it?

Speaker 6 (46:15):
No, I'm barn from going to Columbia. Nothing nothing, nothing bad.
That's things that could possibly happen. It happened, things that
keep yourself out the way of trouble. Okay, So I
tried to stay away from Columbia.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
Okay, you went to me, Yeah, is beautiful.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
But but when when I did visit. While I was there,
I did go to like the Corona Communia thirteen, I
went there, the Calera, Yes, the sites stay I visited.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
You know only two people I ever ragged about stairs No,
because tell me we're really happy.

Speaker 10 (47:01):
No, no, right, no bragging. What we talked about it.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
There's the slums of.

Speaker 3 (47:17):
The higher you go into the mountain in the hills
is the more poor it gets. What they did in
this neighborhood, this neighborhood was violent as hell just long ago.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
But they put escalators so that they can have access
to people in the slums down to the main area
to just do regular things. I've never seen change their lives.
Is in the graffitis everywhere. Beautiful graffiti, our colors, yeah,
I mean colors, like the buildings are beautiful. Everything is
just beautiful there.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
Yeah, all of it.

Speaker 1 (47:49):
You walk up and down the steps, it's it's literally,
it's it's it's it's escalators in the hood.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
Bro, it's a lot of walks beautiful, all right.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
He's going going to a tinky hut on the beach
getting out.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
Listen. The other day, Diego was like, he's like, hey, man,
my girl said I should go to Columbia.

Speaker 1 (48:17):
He said, I don't think we should.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
Were you suggested?

Speaker 1 (48:24):

Speaker 2 (48:26):
If you've been to some bad things. Man, y'all going
for different reasons. You don't say, y'all, I have not
been to Columbia. O you my condo. I have fun.
I didn't have the egle type of fun.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
But I had some fun.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
Man, then then life calm down, and then life calm down. Okay,
beautiful people there, man getting back to sure sure please
do please do? I always, you know, like I said,

I said it earlier, I always felt something attached to
your father. And there's people to this day, right, there's
people who see me who they see me on the internet,
they have never met me before, and they and they'll
come straight up to me and be like you'll know
me and just start talking to me.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
And I realized this.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
Person is infatuated who who are over the fuck they
see on the internet And they starts talking like if
they know you, they have that for a minute they know,
And then you gotta realize that this guy is psychotic.
He does he knows he does he does because he's
pointing out shit.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
He's like Episode sixteen. You remember this time. It's kind
of what we signed up for though we can't.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
That's kind of what we signed up How many times
are people coming up to you wanting to know stories
about your father?

Speaker 1 (49:58):
I see?

Speaker 11 (50:00):

Speaker 6 (50:00):
Really you see something you see? Because I am I
don't know because I I kind of walk wide, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
It's kind of I don't know.

Speaker 6 (50:14):
It's like I saw, like I'm all day like doing
the same things all the time, so I don't pay attention.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
You know, we've seeing that commercial the most interesting guy
on Earth, like your father was that guy.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
Man, it's interesting guy without trying were just heah yeah
in facts shooh. You know, it's been all my life.
That's why it'sn't about the burden. I didn't mean it
in a battle. I'm just saying it's it's a big thing.

Speaker 6 (50:41):
No, but no, like what what Bro's saying in regards
to like how many. I mean, you know it is
it's like now, like you know, I did this yesterday,
not like that, but it was another bop thing yesterday.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
And then when I was born, it was a Bop team.
You know what I mean. It's always been a Bop tam.

Speaker 6 (50:57):
It's like all your whole life, so you know what
I mean, because especially all the money is yeah, you
know what I mean. Then as when being that he
left earth when we were nine years old myself someone brothers, Wow, yeah,
nine years old.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
He was thirty Yeah I said.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
I was ten.

Speaker 6 (51:15):
I was nine yet thirty six, wow, yeah, nineteen eighty one,
I'm born in seventy two. So yeah, but when he
left earth when we were nine years old, we had
to learn from other people too, you know, and learn
from his friends some of his things in Blasi Blasi.
So it became like, I think that we love to

talk about also because it's a remembrance and so we
like to tell the stories about our dad too because
not yeah, we love it. So it's like I can't
even calculate it because it's like a fun thing, you know, like, yeah, man, Maama,
you know something about her dad, you know, so if
you know something, tell me what you know what?

Speaker 1 (51:53):
Tell me? We're intrigued like that.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
Yeah, because he's truly, truly was a prophet.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
He truly was like of this hearth, but not of
this earth.

Speaker 6 (52:06):
Like but you see, go back to the christ consciousness
thing again, where you know, like we say, like, you know,
it's the same thing you say, Yeah, we're fleshical people,
but we have a higher consciousness where we try to
seek a higher way of life, and that way of
life is coming out of this whole ether system, you know.
So our father was able to tap that and unbeknownst

to us, not knowing the meditation that he's dealing with
and the vibration of these links we don't know, you know.
So you know, the man they believe in greater existence,
you know, believe that we all can unite, you know, truly,
like that's like a truth, that's like a real it's
a real thing.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
You know.

Speaker 6 (52:48):
It's not like, oh, man, that's never gonna happen. Yeah, man,
it can happen, you know, So you truly believe that
and live that.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
And he was just.

Speaker 6 (52:55):
Connected to the source, and that's the same thing as
we as human beings. Our goal is try to find
the source and connect to it, you know. So we
just and then that's how we get his majesty again
because we as his children, I say, wait a minute,
we got to find a root of that.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
And the root is Rastafar, right, so you know, so
it's like.

Speaker 6 (53:18):
A channeling and how because this great man is like
you just talk about, yes, as Christ and the great
humans that just walk this earth, it's like we channel that,
We channel that energy. And then because we know it's
real because our father, we see tap into that even
just by how we walk. And that's the scent just

like growing up and it's the scent of him. You know,
like you know, a certain way and what he's connected
to in just the way and what he is, you know,
in regards to like growing up living next to the
priests from the Inthuopian Orthodox Church because His Majesty sent
them to Jamaica and they lived in the same yard
that my father lived in. My father gave him residency,

you know, so he took care of the church, you know.
So it really it was a man like that connected
the father said, and the Holy One, you know, is
that really mine that desire that you know? So yeah,
so like you say, you know, it's really talk, but
you know, I want to sound like you know, trum

my son, I believe the same thing you're saying. Bro,
it's real, trust me. I remember I capp into that
truth just like that. Yeah, because I remember having a
conversation with Pun's son, right.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
And we're shooting the terminology videos, Terminology record me Pun's son,
and term is on, and I remember me talking to
pun Son and me talking to him if he was
his father's friend, and me not realizing that this is
Pun's son, and pun didn't really get to spend a
lot of time what a sure. I remember me immediately saying.

I was talking and I was just like, holy shit,
because I'm talking to this shit about his father and
I'm like, hey, me and him do this, and I'm
looking at him like holy shit. He doesn't really know,
so you know what I mean, Like, is that something
that you ever went through?

Speaker 5 (55:19):

Speaker 6 (55:21):
So as a young boy at nine years old in Jamaica, right,
it's like you're fifteen and a man eighty, you know
what I'm saying it, So we have spot memory like
the times that we have with our father was you know,
the times you know, and then you know and then
it's like he lost some time. Actually, because even recently

I had a dream of my dad recently and I
don't really dream him that much vision him in my dream,
you know. I think it's one of the first times
I think, I'm not even sure, maybe two times in my.

Speaker 1 (55:54):
Life because you know how it is.

Speaker 6 (55:57):
It's not easy, you know, so we live it and
meet within us, so you're like seeing yourself all the time.
But like you say, it's it's really it's like just
a way of life, man, and really trying to make
sense of it, you know what I mean, Because it's magic, Yeah,

it's real magic. And to see it and being being
around it, like wow, all right, because the mind is
like an excellent type of being. You know, it's my
father type of person that you walk in this room
and you just jump over the table.

Speaker 1 (56:30):
Oh wow, like you drive like a superhero.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
So we see him like that.

Speaker 6 (56:36):
So when when the friends tell you the stories, he's like,
he's the type of person like he walk in he
walk in the house and you see you and the
next minute you bring the boxing gloves.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
You know, wow, like circlub.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
So that's yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:51):
So yeah, it's like I ever ever present. So we
hear the stories.

Speaker 6 (56:57):
Because you know, as as sons, you look up to
your father and you want to emulate your father. So
he tried to find all the little things about him
and learn as much as you can and then you know,
try to extend that because at the end of the day,
I'm fifty two years old this year. My father passed

you when I'm thirty six, But I still see him
as like WHOA, what a big man? And when you
please my little brother today, you know, but I still
look at him like wow, you know I still see him.
Wow you think that is I think I see him
still as that little nine year old. I think I
don't know because I still when I look when I
see a picture of my own my father, I don't.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
I mean, obviously I.

Speaker 6 (57:43):
We live in the present, right of course, so we
will we you know, in your own mind, you kind
of talk to yourself for how you would perceive a
life with daddy today.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
You know.

Speaker 6 (57:54):
But when I do see him, I don't see like
I couldn't, like, I just see him as he's in
these all the same pictures, you know.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
What I mean. I don't vision him the other way?

Speaker 2 (58:04):
You know what I mean, because I heard jay Z
say that his kids didn't think he was cool. Right,
you couldn't have never had that problem. You always had
the new was the coolest person on the player.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
Let let remember I'm young, so.

Speaker 6 (58:27):
It's like a lion, and I seem like a because
he's the type of person when they talk to you
cry like I'm the type of person.

Speaker 1 (58:33):
My day is over there. I'm over there, you know.

Speaker 3 (58:36):
So you.

Speaker 6 (58:41):
It's like, I don't know, I see him like a
superhero bigger than life, like yeah, I when I'm seeing him,
the scent of him, like you can't even he's the
type of man like I remember one day he's in
the studio session and I'm there late at the hopeful
because i'm you know, I'm supposed to be home, but
I end up staying over here.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
I'm late, and he's like, what are you doing here?

Speaker 6 (59:04):
I'm sitting here, dad, you know here. So it's about
I don't know, maybe one o'clock or probably earlier, like
twelve o'clock or something. So I go into the studio
and you know, the studio of the glass here, and
he's on the board up there.

Speaker 10 (59:17):
But you can't.

Speaker 1 (59:18):
You can't fall asleep. You can't fall asleep in the studio.
You can't.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
That's my room too. You mean I got that from
I know, I was great.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
You can't like on some weak stuff like you can't
be there like bobbing and ship.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
That's so fucking flaw Holy shit, send.

Speaker 6 (59:42):
Me as a little boy. Now I'm sitting the tire
and so I'm trying to kind of hide, but he
see me through the glass. It says, hey, boy, go upstairs.
So I go upstairs now, and I'm laying in my
dad's bed because you know it's just his he got
his bed is in the office, his studio, pressing plan.

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
Everything is right there, you know, his whole system.

Speaker 6 (01:00:07):
So I'm sleeping, you know, my father probably come upstairs
like five thirty am.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
Hey boy, get up to wash your feet. That's yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:00:30):
So you see him like like when you it's like,
oh no, you know what I mean, it's like, yeah, man,
you know, you seem like it's whatever you're gonna do
is like magic. And the stories you hear about him,
it's like the you know, you do magical things. My
uncle will tell you here in Miami because I'm in
nineteen seventy six. It's when my family move here in Miami.

But my dad had a renegade, a jeep. My uncle
will tell you. You know, sometime he drives the cheap
and he come into the yard. She is like on
one wheel. The way he fucking turned that he's He's like,
you can't believe the things. You can't leave the things
that they tell you. Man, the stories, it's like it's crazy,
like a real superhero. So we see our father as

a superhero, like and we tried to you is a superhero. Yeah,
So we're like that's the way, like the smell, that's
the way he smelled. You know, things he eats. How
he You know, you don't want to when you're young,
you don't want none.

Speaker 10 (01:01:28):
That ship.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
Be ruit Irish Moss. You know a lot of I
tell food. Notice we we dumpling. Well, he was super
disciplined in that way.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
Yeah, man, But.

Speaker 1 (01:01:42):
Sometime you know he's he'll take you to Kentucky Chicken
winter time Sundays.

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
I'm gonna change it up a little bit. Once made
the mistake right me personally, a bike riding with a
famous NFL football player named Warren sat Now, we'll go
on these bike rides with Warren stack two three times
a week. I realized he was crazy. I didn't realize

how crazy he was. One day he goes, fuck these
bitch ass wires. We take it, Norrie, Let's go to
the South Beach. I don't take him serious, but I'm like, okay, cool.
We go into Sunny House. I realized, Oh, he's really
going to South beat. I can't bitch out or you

cross the bridge. Oh he's a maniac.

Speaker 1 (01:02:52):
By the way, Warren Savage my friend, so I can
say this. He has never left the game. He's still
on the field. He was blocking for me.

Speaker 9 (01:03:01):
Oh, I'm feeling like I got a fucking football. You're
running back. He's coping in front of the trucks.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
I sweter, go, swearter, I'm not as you read. An
Amazon truck pulled up on the side of us, and
he went like this. He hit the Amazon truck. This
ship shaped.

Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
The two Amazon drivers come out, They're like yo, and
then they see this water on Saturday. Fuck that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
They turned the funking around. I'm looking. Warren is the
man in the streets. I'm on the bike. I'm out
of my league here.

Speaker 3 (01:03:44):

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
I do not belong here, but I can't turn back.

Speaker 7 (01:03:49):

Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
Different kind of bike ride, and I.

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
Don't got no charge you because it's an electric bike
and the electric is not working. I got no electric bike. Yeah,
snow listen, and just we're gonna do nine hundred miles.
The electric don't count. So we're going. We're going, and
he's like, hey, let's stop for a pier.

Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
What a beer?

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
I like this bike ride. We wind up in your house.
She look, we want to live in your house.

Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
I walked in his credit.

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
I don't understand. I didn't. I didn't remember that y'all
went to school together. I didn't remember y'all my.

Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
Best friend I remember that, so I'm like, you am.

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
But by the way, if you didn't lived it, I
would have died.

Speaker 10 (01:04:38):
It was out of everything.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
Like this guy's a Hall of Famer. Yeah, he's working out.

Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
To go through traffic and it's not my ship.

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
I'm trying to just waiting over your head, trying to
fucking go fucking after the Super Bowl, trying to.

Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
Bike man somewhere.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
He's training for my head with him. So he's like, yo,
let's go sweating. He's like, let's go to I'm like,
I'm trying to find your number to be like you
just finally.

Speaker 1 (01:05:14):
Excuse supposed to stay.

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
You'll thank you. I kid, you not warm. You listen,
if you're not ready to work out with a Hall
of Famer, I want to get you incredible. Don't do it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
He's incredible because he's not gonna let you stop.

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
He's incredible.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
That we went to your house. From your house, we
drank beers. I was like, I was like, yoh, yeah,
my battery was about to die.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
I was using any excuse I call my wife like like,
I was like, come and get me. You're kid pro
It was not funny. I was like, I say he
was abusing man. I was like, why.

Speaker 10 (01:05:56):
I come?

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
I come? The next I was, I came, like like
why the electric left the Then first off, we went
to Prome one twelve drank and we went impact and
I was like, I'm not really big like this.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
When you drink more prime.

Speaker 2 (01:06:17):
I couldn't say no, do you understand? It's like I
just like exercise. I felt like he was going to
be like, shut the fuck okay. I was like, yes,
I was out of war is a crazy one. I
seen him last night. Oh my god, yeah you know,
I promise you.

Speaker 6 (01:06:37):
Warren Sapp is probably one of the smartest human meat
that I have ever met in my life. This guy
is so intelligent, like bio biologically, geographically, philosophically.

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
No one was football like this guy.

Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
No one.

Speaker 6 (01:06:53):
He taught me about like American politics, like he taught
me American history. He taught me so much about American
culture and here in America like when.

Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
You first moved all the time, like all the time,
Like his history is play football, yeah, but his his knowledge,
man is this man.

Speaker 6 (01:07:12):
Teaches me so much about American history. Like just like
he's so intelligent. Bro, it's well read well.

Speaker 1 (01:07:20):
Like this guy. You you can't increase this. You can't.
I'm in college. I want we were roommates.

Speaker 6 (01:07:27):
Walked in the door, I walked into well, we didn't
have a dot and apartment.

Speaker 1 (01:07:32):
It's you, am, but it's on campus.

Speaker 2 (01:07:34):
That's right. Apartments from Miami Ship real chilling, score gables.

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
It's good.

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
Pole in here.

Speaker 1 (01:07:42):
Something I don't know in my mind. The seven ninth
Street we went.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
Let me say this anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
I walk in the dorm, I mean the apartment I
open and Sap is there watching Jeopardy. I'm like, you
watch this ship. This motherfucker's answering all the question. I'm like,
how do you know that ship?

Speaker 6 (01:08:10):
Intelligent motherfucker part of my friends, but super intelligent and
as well as a dominant like athlete.

Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
This man.

Speaker 6 (01:08:18):
You won't find him just sitting around. He's fishing all
the time, riding the bicycle, diving.

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
It's crazy, by the way, he's diving, grabbing the fish
under water, the fish with the fucking thing. You know
what I'm talking about. He's down there and keep with you, quit,

quit and quit, want.

Speaker 3 (01:08:47):
No more.

Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
Right now? Big up to him too.

Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
He does. He's not working with coach on sand Let
me tell you something let me tell you something. If
you never rode in a bike lane and he was
slow in the bike lane, or you walked in the
bike lane, Warren Sap is he come up on you
like this, cout the fuck out the bike like, yo,

let me tell you something. The whole ballwalk moves out
his way. It's like they got a time that he knows.
They know he come through.

Speaker 1 (01:09:20):
You know the bike lan. You know you know why
he knows the law. You know he's actually correct. If
you're going to wait, he'll yell at you like you're
going the wrong way.

Speaker 6 (01:09:30):
He's like one of them type of guys where he's
like strictly law of biting, Like he's proper, Like you
can't be walking in the bike lan.

Speaker 1 (01:09:40):
You know you got the right to be. You see
the sign.

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
But the first time I met him, we was at
a restaurant and he had a sign I swear to
guard in front of him that said.

Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
Don't feed the animals. I don't know what that ship meant.

Speaker 2 (01:09:56):
When I stayed clear away from that ship, I was like, hey,
how you doing, Borro Sap.

Speaker 1 (01:09:59):
I was like, I was scared to death. He's a
good guy. He's a good guy.

Speaker 6 (01:10:04):
But he's he's really like always himself proper, you know,
but he's always but you know what growing up like
how we grew up and thing and all the things
that people took advantage of, you know, some of his situations,
he became very defensive of his circle and who he
lets into his space, because you know, when when you're
just living your life and you end up in a situation.

Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
What I mean, I mean, I thought we were just
hanging out.

Speaker 2 (01:10:28):
How come it led to that?

Speaker 1 (01:10:30):

Speaker 6 (01:10:31):
And then so them things them turned them guys into
more like like especially so big too, like he don't like,
you know, he don't.

Speaker 1 (01:10:38):
Know who's who anymore knows.

Speaker 2 (01:10:40):
A Miami guy. He's a Miami gud. Like everything about
Warren is Miami cut him. He bleeds green.

Speaker 1 (01:10:48):
Well, we do believe I am also orange and gray yourself,
I also please orange and green. So be careful because
he played for of Riders right, not in the CFL,
in the c played in Miami. Not football, not not
not football.

Speaker 6 (01:11:09):
Let me tell you about my limitated times I played. Okay,
so I played here at the high school, promic Senior
high school.

Speaker 1 (01:11:18):
Big up to, big up to, big up to.

Speaker 6 (01:11:23):
Okay, okay one our district district chimps. I was a linebacker.
I got a full scholarship at the University of Miami.

Speaker 1 (01:11:32):
Wow. I was red shirted my my.

Speaker 6 (01:11:38):
Next year as a fifth fleeting tackle on the team.
I played the outside linebacker fifty tackling team my sophomore year.

Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
Since the call right now, the fantasy what is it
but under that underdog fantasy fantasy.

Speaker 6 (01:12:00):
So yeah, I led the team in tackles as a
defensive player linebacker and then the rough Riders you're talking about.
I went to the CFL because I was kind of
ineligible to go to the NFL just because of.

Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
My rude ways. So I got it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:13):
I became ineligible. I was like a little I wasn't
particularly like just do what you tell me type of
guy I got in trouble. Wasn't na Ganja, never that.
It was more like, why you talk to me?

Speaker 2 (01:12:29):
You see? You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:12:30):
So then a fire, you know, I mean, you can't
talk to me certain ways.

Speaker 6 (01:12:33):
So it's kind of like, oh, he's uncoachable. Not uncoachable,
you just can't talk to me like that. I'm growing,
you know, I mean, I just that's landing. So it
did it did affect my ways. But my son Nico,
he got a full ride to Tulane. He actually he
actually played the whole preseasons for the Redskins. So at

Tulane he's like the top leading tackler, top twenty in
their history, number one and then tagus for loss. He
became a great linebacker, so he superseded what I wanted
to do.

Speaker 1 (01:13:04):

Speaker 6 (01:13:04):
So my children are better than me, obviously, all of them,
So I love that. But yes, I was a linebacker
and ray Lewis was my middle linebacker. Warn't Stop was
my d line So I played them here. So I
taught ray Lewis what a team.

Speaker 2 (01:13:20):
I can say that and he would lock it up.

Speaker 1 (01:13:27):
But obviously, absolutely that's how it works.

Speaker 6 (01:13:32):
If you, if you, if if if if if I
walk in before you and you walk in and see
me sitting there, who are you learning from? But that's
just how it is, because I'm the man when we
walked up in that school, I'm the man, and I'm
the best linebacker I ever played at University of Miami.

Speaker 1 (01:13:52):
Sir Ray, It's the thing we have.

Speaker 6 (01:13:59):
But obviously Leary Lewis is the greatest linebacker ever played
the game. But but in college, in college, we're talking
about college. We're not talking about the world. Were just
talking about you. So we're gonna put that up. We're
gonna put that up.

Speaker 1 (01:14:13):
Man in mano.

Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
Okay, do you what do you call soccer? I still
call it soccer.

Speaker 1 (01:14:21):
You know, it depends who I am and depends on
my moons. I still call it soccer, like it depends
on to.

Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
Stay in the hotel in Italy and you said it
was like what fucking American?

Speaker 1 (01:14:34):
I was like Jesus, like, they took it by the
way to the hotel.

Speaker 2 (01:14:38):
I don't know if anybody could google this and send
me the link. It was a soccer hotel. Yeah, so
everywhere you went it was TVs. Playing soccer. I was
freaked the funk out.

Speaker 1 (01:14:48):
That's your later on I'm talking about in the elevators.
It's like everyone a TV big game, big probably a
big game, but that I grew up playing that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:57):
That's my sport. But you know what what you better
at soccer or football? American? Well?

Speaker 6 (01:15:05):
You see for me, you know, I never became what
I wanted to become. As an athlete, I'm a failure
and as a I want to be a pro. I
really want to be a pro one of these things.

Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
I tried sports either.

Speaker 6 (01:15:19):
I tried American football, but I wasn't disciplined enough. Then
no track and fail. You know what when I you
won't believe this. I actually in my high school, I
have the record for the four by one hundred relay.

Speaker 1 (01:15:32):
I'm a part of that team. So I had some speed.
I did the high jump. Yeah, I did the high jump.

Speaker 2 (01:15:37):
That was my thing. So that's kind of my thing.
So I played that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:40):
I did basketball.

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
I played that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:45):
We don't believe you in a basketball tip at all.
We don't believe that.

Speaker 2 (01:16:11):

Speaker 1 (01:16:15):
Well, I wanted to be an athlete.

Speaker 6 (01:16:16):
You know if I failed at being an athlete, I
really did. And I remember the day when I realized
that I couldn't be an athlete anymore. It wasn't I
had to give up on my dream. Because after college,
I went to be a roadie with my brothers because
I wanted to be amongst my brothers. So I was
a roadie, you know, I was like, you know then
I was trying to learn to be that. Then things
happened and some other things in life took place. Then

I went to Jamaica, and I tried out for the
Jamaica national team. I want to be a soccer player,
so I was working my way up to like the
club I made the Premier League. One of the teams.

Speaker 2 (01:16:48):
Let you go through, because you know, they don't do that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:50):
They don't do that, they don't a bit hard all
they even know who I am. You probably wanted it
that way, but yeah, and then again they look at
me like, oh, oh, you play American football. You don't
know nothing about this. So obviously I got to prove
a double prove. And then again I am Bob's son.
Then again, I'm a little older than everyone else. Not everyone,

but I'm a little older because I went to college.
And so I'm like writing like that prime age, you know,
and it's a young youth thing. So I was trying.

Speaker 6 (01:17:20):
My dream was to play for Jamaica. I didn't make
it to play for Jamaica. Tore my hamstring. Then I
moved to Miami. Then I moved to Los Angeles and
that's when I got into business. And my brother, this
is when I got into business. My brother, Ziggy, he
asked me a question one day. He says, you know,
let me ask you something. What do you want to do,

you know, business or football? Because I thought that after
I rehabilitated myself, I was going to move to LA
and try out for LA Galaxy.

Speaker 1 (01:17:51):
That's what that's going to find. The way I met
one of the guys, that's how I do things. I
meet a guy in the coffee shop. Hey man you
oh yeah, man, Hey, how I get a tryout?

Speaker 2 (01:18:02):
Can you? That's how I do it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:03):
It's not like some Marley thing. I gotta go. That's
how I That's how it works as an athlete. It's
not singing, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:18:11):
He's singing.

Speaker 6 (01:18:12):
So but my brother asked me a question and says, listen, man,
I see something. It's gonna cost you eight thousand dollars
to do this collection you want. I was designing tough
gun clothing at the time, so he said, business or football.
I gotta make a choice. So in my mind, I
think I'm gonna like thirty one years old. So I

started to think about, like right then not to make
a decision. But what made me think even faster was like, listen,
I'm fucking too old. These motherfuckers they're gonna bench me.
I'm gonna be frustrated. They're gonna be some young motherfucker there.
So I'm gonna go through this frustration again right thinking
I'm better than the guy playing, and I'm gonna go
through that all over again as I can't. As I

can't go through it again, I'm like, I did that,
you know, I did? You know that sports is like that, man,
So I had to choose business. And that's when I
became an entrepreneur. With that ultimatum right there from my
brother Ziggy, and that's from like Tough On Clothing starring
Marley Coffee, Romary Beach House. I got my own cannabis
company out line order that you know. It's out of Michigan,

Detroit there, So I'm doing that. So I'm doing a
lot of things. And then for my family, I'm kind
of like the brand ambassador kind of business development for
the family. We have House of Marley where we have
the headphones and everything Marley Family. I'm kind of like
one of the guys in regards to the business side,
so not so much music, but all of the like

extended products like these art goods or whatever we have here,
some of these things, but these things are lying order.
What you see me like to show off lie in order.
That's that's my thing, lieing order. Okay, that's the brand.

Speaker 2 (01:19:53):
We see the ring.

Speaker 1 (01:19:55):
Yeah, this is just a black lion. The black client
is a king's right, So just we're the black client.

Speaker 7 (01:20:00):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:20:00):
We also see that automar perpetual too. We also see
that too, sir. Yes, that's nice.

Speaker 1 (01:20:08):
Let we talk about Root's luxury, like like the time,
and we like to tell a good time.

Speaker 2 (01:20:15):
I'm taking that your publisher, I get your publisher, you get,
all right? All right, okay, so you want to introduce yes, yeah,
all right, We're gonna give you two choices. We're gonna
run down the list. You pick one, we don't drink.
This is a drinking game, all right, but if you

say both. If you don't pick one, basically we're drinking if.

Speaker 1 (01:20:41):
If I don't get one, so I gotta be truthful,
right yeah, if you say one, then nobody drinking. And
then you know we want to tell story, all right,
you can tell anything.

Speaker 2 (01:20:49):
Yeah, the choice. So this is what kind of game is.
It's called quick time. It's lone, but it's never quit.
I gotta be fast. No no, no, no, it's just fast.

Speaker 1 (01:20:58):

Speaker 2 (01:20:58):
So we're going to start the first Oneac or d
M X.

Speaker 6 (01:21:04):
Tupac just because of you know, you know what, it's
not fair to ask some of these questions to me
because I'm always I'm always about that, Like the older
person is gonna get the upper hand, right, So I'm
gonna go. I'm gonna go Tupac for age preference not
necessarily competitive in regards to it, the.

Speaker 1 (01:21:25):
Better lyrics better whatever, nothing to do with that strictly
on age.

Speaker 2 (01:21:31):
So Tupac, okay, rings or bony again, it just.

Speaker 1 (01:21:41):
Jumps out of me.

Speaker 3 (01:21:42):
What elder statesman and that these are truth? But in
what capacity? Like it's whatever, it's for you, whatever it is.
They could be a personal connection, could be the music,
It could be anything.

Speaker 1 (01:21:54):
Wow are you can say? You can say both? And
we got.

Speaker 11 (01:21:59):
The shot ye shots drink chips Okay, okay, I.

Speaker 2 (01:22:10):
Like this one. Naves Naves or jay Z your brother
got the album with nas. Let's not forget no, Dad,
I just waited you you you getting sucked up.

Speaker 1 (01:22:24):
I'm drunk there we drinks jumps some drunk. I can't
think straight. I can't think z. You know, in life
you have relationships. Yeah, that's why.

Speaker 2 (01:22:45):
People say sounds like we're taking another shot.

Speaker 1 (01:22:50):
This is this is not right. Whoa that ship?

Speaker 2 (01:23:02):
That ship?

Speaker 6 (01:23:02):
They will frighten you that fucking the horn. It's like
taking mushrooms. It's just like mushrooms.

Speaker 2 (01:23:14):
This is my drink.

Speaker 1 (01:23:15):
Chams are drunk chat. So you know we're gonna go with.

Speaker 4 (01:23:22):
Jay Z.

Speaker 1 (01:23:25):
Let me go board just for cheer.

Speaker 2 (01:23:30):
This one is a good one. Oh yeah, this is
by the way, I just wanted to let you know,
we don't do it. Don't make it. It's the Colorbia
and Dominicans right over there. You know they make up
these questions. The Columbia right there and the Dominican right there.
What they do is they study you.

Speaker 6 (01:23:47):
Let me let me make something clear here, okay, because
I'm because I'm an, I just want to make.

Speaker 1 (01:23:52):
This truly clear. Very let's be clear. You see me
with my locks and.

Speaker 6 (01:23:58):
Everything on, so you know me, I'm a RASTAFARII but
be clear on this. I'm an entrepreneur, that's right. So
I do a lot of taste testing. See where you go, uh,
spend some time in Jamaica and the knefield. You know,
they they had a rum. So I did a taste test.

So I'm gonna call this a taste testing exactly what
it is. Don't don't, don't think there's something regular. This
is a taste testing. Taste test? What do we taste
testing here?

Speaker 1 (01:24:30):
What is this? This is got some right?

Speaker 2 (01:24:33):
That's okay?

Speaker 1 (01:24:34):
All right, well, I hope I'm gonna answer all these
other questions.

Speaker 2 (01:24:36):
Because we're not on It's not for my health. I'm
gonna start picking answers here. Ready, Yes, you got a
super cat or Sean Paul Battle?

Speaker 1 (01:24:49):
All right, super Cat? Right now, I'm going like age.
I'm not going age first, so remember that you got it,
I got it.

Speaker 2 (01:24:58):
Let me take this one because I got a record.

Speaker 1 (01:24:59):
I love the guys the way if I drink, if
I say one, no one drinks. No one drinks.

Speaker 2 (01:25:06):
Wait so wait, well y'all, wait, this is not fair.

Speaker 10 (01:25:09):
You're too small.

Speaker 1 (01:25:10):
But if you say both and neither, we drink. Drink No,
there has to be a time. Okay, we drink like
drinking like that has to be there has to be
some scenario. Yes, were you fellas man? Okay, don't drink me.

Speaker 2 (01:25:29):
Okay, we're going figure this out, but let's just move
on from now.

Speaker 1 (01:25:32):
Bounty Killer O Beadie Man you guys watch versus Yeah,
who did y'all choose?

Speaker 2 (01:25:39):
And we chose we chose to. I mean, you get
the police out of there when the police showed up,
said police, fin get out of the yard.

Speaker 1 (01:25:46):
I think bounty.

Speaker 2 (01:25:48):
I'm gonna go both.

Speaker 10 (01:25:49):
Go they both.

Speaker 1 (01:25:52):
I can't remember Jamaica run. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:25:56):
He said both.

Speaker 1 (01:25:57):
He said both. Wait, wait, he said, twisting me up.

Speaker 7 (01:26:04):

Speaker 2 (01:26:05):
Hey man, you can drink some roots right here. This
is what I'm drinking. This is all right, fine, let
me let me do this. I'm gonna win.

Speaker 1 (01:26:19):
I'm gonna win for real, all right. Next one is yeah,
shot us of belly you. I know what. That's easy.
I'm gonna shot this. Yeah, you're gone too far. Now,

you're gone gone. Next one should be easy loved in
in Miami, Miami. Yeah, that should have been easy.

Speaker 2 (01:26:51):
Have been easier.

Speaker 1 (01:26:52):
Come on, what do you mean just just came from
now then I'm here in Miami now.

Speaker 2 (01:26:56):
Yeah, big up?

Speaker 5 (01:26:57):
What else?

Speaker 1 (01:26:57):
What I say?

Speaker 2 (01:26:59):
Yes? And the police still don't got London?

Speaker 1 (01:27:03):
In London they got guns now they do upgraded. I
think they got guns now, bro ship, I didn't see
any police.

Speaker 2 (01:27:10):
Because they got drill rap. They got drill rap rap
over here too, Yeah, police got guns all right? The
next one, I can't see you. Ok, this is me,
but I think I think he might be. Let's figure
it out. Jerk chicken or carry chicken, he jerry, he said,

they went to let me see how I get y'all
to drink. Now, let me I'm gonna drink. This one answers,
I'm gonna I got you. He's like, I'm gonna get you.
But this this is a very chicken jerk chicken or yeah,
all right?

Speaker 1 (01:27:53):
When I was young, because.

Speaker 6 (01:27:56):
You don't have a jerk pan at your house, right,
you don't have a jerk pan, So it's like it's a.

Speaker 1 (01:28:03):
Pan that's just what you just stays this just to
make the jerk. It's tough.

Speaker 6 (01:28:07):
This is a you know what if you don't find
the right guy when this is when I'm young, because
if you don't jerk the chicken certain way, it hurts
your belly.

Speaker 1 (01:28:14):
And we know what happen when you hurt your belly.
But because curry chicken, no, it's so many yet, like
for dinner at your house, so we're not for goo
with curry chicken. I didn't even though I don't eat chicken.

Speaker 2 (01:28:28):
That's right.

Speaker 6 (01:28:30):
That's because as a youth. I'm not talking now. I'm
not saying when I was young how to eat curt
because that's why I ate more. I hate a lot
of curry chicken. Man, that's what cook for dinner.

Speaker 2 (01:28:39):
You know. I just got to ask you this, if
you ever ate the coconuts out here in Hollandale, what
was it? Mayor Mark? They got? They got vegan. I
thought you meant the fruit. No, no, no, no coconuts.
I want to find out. It's my spot. I want
to find out is it really into the yard? Mancos
on it?

Speaker 1 (01:28:58):
And then I sell something, y'all ink and water? Are
you taking shots? Were drinking?

Speaker 2 (01:29:02):
Because you never had coconuts?

Speaker 1 (01:29:05):

Speaker 2 (01:29:05):
You never had being. I just feel like i've seen
you there something Maybe maybe hey, maybe maybe may the
store is a real yard. Yeah yeah, okay, good food,
great food. Maybe I should maybe give me the address.
I like to excuse I love coconuts. I haven't been
in a while. Still order this is this is this

is an easy one for you. Reggae or reggae throng. Good?
I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:29:42):
I got cuman girlfriend, man, man, we got reggaeton, reggae, reggae, reggae, reggae, reggae.

Speaker 2 (01:29:53):
Reggae based upon me, Okay, just me in general, Biggie
or big L Biggie or who big L.

Speaker 1 (01:30:04):
Big big L?

Speaker 2 (01:30:05):
Who's big L?

Speaker 1 (01:30:06):
We could move on there, maybe I know arlam. Yeah,
showing the court down with camera on them original.

Speaker 6 (01:30:13):
I'm not good at that. Okay, I'm not I'm going
from that. I mean, I'm not good at that one.
I'm I'm in college, man, I'm like, I'm a football player, bro,
I'm like, I'm not even thinking about this stuff. You
know what we played when I was in college, them
boys from Texas.

Speaker 2 (01:30:29):
They used to play.

Speaker 6 (01:30:30):
Ghetto boys, ghetto boy and the big album was when
Drake Chronic Chronic first and then when Stoop Dogg.

Speaker 1 (01:30:37):
That was like yeah, that was like an album.

Speaker 6 (01:30:40):
Like everyone was like you got I remember chasing, I
remember driving to places just to get that album.

Speaker 1 (01:30:45):
So just so because in my college that was a culture.
Ghetto boys.

Speaker 2 (01:30:53):
Saw me. Yeah you got the next three, go for it.
Cap Sizzler was this what kind of questions is a
trick question? You know, it's been question came to the
sil question. That's a trick question, give my give my shot.

I like, I like the shot I do. I line
up a mixed no problem we're doing, don't go both? Yeah?
Look answer boat.

Speaker 1 (01:31:28):
Wow, y'all foul for this one, bro? You putting the
family against each other? All right?

Speaker 12 (01:31:36):
Stephen Morner, Damien Marning, that's the yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:31:46):
I came in here on one love.

Speaker 2 (01:31:53):
A shot.

Speaker 1 (01:31:53):
You we got?

Speaker 2 (01:31:55):
You know what, y'all did everything shot like that, y'all.
You know what you're gonna make you listen, you said
it earlier. It got to be us around with. It's
just us.

Speaker 1 (01:32:10):
Based on disrespect.

Speaker 2 (01:32:13):
Right about that?

Speaker 1 (01:32:14):
That was respectful? Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:32:16):
I like this one. Yell in trouble man. We're talking
your pay crazy Marcus Garvey or Malcolm X.

Speaker 1 (01:32:24):
Wow? Wow, all right, so Malcolm X is born. I'm sorry.

Speaker 6 (01:32:32):
I'm born on Malcolm X birthday May nineteen, whereas we
so obviously I love Malcolm X. But growing up I
learn more about Marcus Garvey as a Jamaican and it's
when I came to America, really I started learning a
lot about Malcolm X, you know, and you know that
just for myself. So it'd be like Marcus Garvey just

because of popularity and the movement to rastify a movement,
and those all the things I've said before. You know,
I've read his books and such, not a lot of
his books. I'm not going front, but I've read some stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:33:06):
So Marcus Garvey, okay, patech or a protect believe.

Speaker 1 (01:33:13):
I'm trying to sound French and ship. I'm assuming this
is with them all. I don't know nothing about you.

Speaker 2 (01:33:22):
Make it material, don't make you watch Apple watch.

Speaker 1 (01:33:31):
I mean they have choices like that because most of
my things are gifts.

Speaker 2 (01:33:35):
Okay, so.

Speaker 1 (01:33:38):
Both both we're drinking drinking majesty where patch you know,
and I'm we're in the other stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:33:50):
So you're slipping on your You were supposed to tell
me that I'm offended, he WROTEXT.

Speaker 1 (01:34:04):
We got to step it up, Yes, sir, drink to that.

Speaker 2 (01:34:09):
A lot. Luther had a lot of Rolexes, Lucy Kings
or Helly Selassie. What you say, mar Luther King or
Helly Selassie.

Speaker 1 (01:34:22):
It's the same thing as you know.

Speaker 7 (01:34:27):

Speaker 1 (01:34:29):
Shot shot that is called not as disrespectful of this world? Okay,
you want to go to like who even dare even
mentioned these things? Dead friends or public enemy? Wow? Wow,

that's a good one. Wow, geesh.

Speaker 6 (01:34:56):
This time because I'm you know, m one and those
are great Chuck d dig And then, you know, growing
up like my brothers, you know, being in music, you end.

Speaker 1 (01:35:06):
Up meeting everyone on the side, you know, on the
side on the side, Guy, that's my brother.

Speaker 2 (01:35:10):
Hey, what's up?

Speaker 1 (01:35:10):
You know.

Speaker 6 (01:35:11):
So they're like an extension of each other like that
press back. But then, but that press used to come
down to Jamaica in the early time, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:35:21):
So I met them in Jamaica. Actually, how could I
be that when they didn't Jamaica.

Speaker 6 (01:35:25):
Yah, so you kind of like I have an affinity
to them too, you know. And then and one again
is region you know, and one is ready you know
what I mean? Boy, we have to go both.

Speaker 1 (01:35:36):
That, we have to do both. I see what we're
I see what we're going with this. Can we do
a hey, where's it?

Speaker 2 (01:35:43):
We have a tester?

Speaker 1 (01:35:45):
We testing cant that from migos.

Speaker 2 (01:35:49):
He tried, he tried to. Oh yeah, they tried to think. Fine,
you can bring your diamont. We give you our links.
Now today, you know what, it's a hard string day.
And today is my dad's birthday. You know, that's what

that's what's crazy is I've been seeing you for years
and I've always wanted to give you your flowers, always
want to tell you, you know, and yesterday I forget
exactly what happened. And then we was like, I said, yo,
can we push it? And then they say, you know what,
it's Bob Margy's birthday tomorrow, And I was like, if
that's not divide, It's like, like, how the day that I.

Speaker 1 (01:36:34):
Can give you your thank you for joining to give
you your flowers, it's on the day because you could
have been like, no, it's my PAP's birthday. Because I
love this show too, godam like you.

Speaker 2 (01:36:48):
I watched you want to give No, we want to
give you your flowers, switching because because nah, you really
deserve this man. Like you know, there's so many people
you know, uh this air what they say, the heir
to the throne, you know what I mean? So the
heir to the throne, right, there's so many people who don't,

who don't succeed to to fulfill or try to fulfill
to another great man's shoes, and to do it in
your way and to do it where you comfortable. Like
you said, your man, I don't really mess with the
music like that. But I'm on the business and everything else,
like honest way of doing it, and this is your

way of being I and I being and you're doing
it man, like I kid you not. From Angela Yee
to everybody, they always just say, oh man, you know
every time they get they want to go to your
hotel and support you and be like And there's so
many great people that so biger my man, Chris Jones.

Speaker 1 (01:37:45):
Man. A lot of people don't know. I love Chris Jones.

Speaker 2 (01:37:50):
His father's famous as fun. Yeah, so I know, y'all.
Could it's just a shot just standing arout there. I
gotta take it. It's just a shot I got one day.
I really wanted to give me flowers.

Speaker 1 (01:38:02):
Man, you guys get one that's standing out there, and
I'm gonna get the one that's on the question stuff. Yes, yes, yes,
again's not gonna bring me.

Speaker 2 (01:38:15):
Into your.

Speaker 1 (01:38:17):
Keep the flowers over here. Okay, Next one, Yeah, shaggy,
mister Vegas, shaggy shaggy. Next one is yours, shaggy.

Speaker 2 (01:38:28):
That's easy. You don't want to take this one. I
feel like rosh you take this one?

Speaker 1 (01:38:34):
Yeah, say it.

Speaker 2 (01:38:36):
It's pineapple ginger or sorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:38:39):
So you just said it. Go ahead, fucked up? Wait
on pineapple ginger are sorry? Yeah? Yeah, I don't know
what Sorry gingers together and then sorry is separates the flower, right,
Sorry is a Christmas drink when you have.

Speaker 2 (01:38:54):
Damaica And this is what they make on Christmas.

Speaker 1 (01:38:57):
On christ hype biscus is like the pub of the eyebiscus.
But but I used to I talked to you about
like the scent right of my father.

Speaker 6 (01:39:08):
Right, imagine smelling pineapple ginger wood and some stew.

Speaker 1 (01:39:18):
That's what you smell, so pineapple ginger. It's like reminding
my father.

Speaker 2 (01:39:23):
I love.

Speaker 1 (01:39:23):
Yeah, Like that's probably one of the house scent.

Speaker 6 (01:39:25):
You go up, you going to the studios, smell that
they call you in the kitchen making them pineapp a
ginger is like as always reminding my father, So pinup.
I love that for that, And it's heel purposes, of course,
but I like that.

Speaker 1 (01:39:36):
I like to.

Speaker 2 (01:39:37):
It takes me to the seventies. You know, you gotta
come to my wife's juice ball. Juice juice ball, Hollandale.
We got all my wife got a juice ball. That's
what we all do. The delivery stuff too, Yeah, we
ain't not not your carib fun figure out here in
the beach. I ain't telling nobody but your family.

Speaker 1 (01:39:57):
Down south.

Speaker 9 (01:39:59):
Want to know.

Speaker 1 (01:40:01):
I went to and I saw the fan one day, you.

Speaker 2 (01:40:04):
Know, one of them type of places.

Speaker 1 (01:40:05):
Yeah, well, definitely come to the Juiceball because Pineapple Ginger
is in effect and sorrow too.

Speaker 6 (01:40:11):
Clara is good, but it's not that I mean, so
it is nice, but it's not like if you ask
my favorite team, I got for Pineapple Ginger, okay for real.

Speaker 2 (01:40:20):
Or Kanye any way you want to pick evil motherfuckers?

Speaker 1 (01:40:31):
Yeah, yo yo, wow, geesh.

Speaker 6 (01:40:40):
This is them type of questions when you like, if
people were your friends, if they even like some of
the stuff you like it, you know, your type of
ship where your friends.

Speaker 1 (01:40:50):

Speaker 6 (01:40:52):
No, that's a good one because those are like a
really good comparison based upon you know, because obviously in
regards to the fashion side.

Speaker 2 (01:41:03):
Right, you know what I mean, I knew he was
gonna go there.

Speaker 6 (01:41:05):
It's a thing because they you know, that type of
that's you know, that's street culture, that high luxury stuff
where they play around and you know, and then as
a music creative, you know what I'm saying, They even
connected music as a creatives as a music builders, you
know what I mean, like producers.

Speaker 2 (01:41:23):
Wow, that's a tough one shot leading the witness man.

Speaker 1 (01:41:27):
You keep which one is shot for?

Speaker 2 (01:41:29):
Again for Kanye, you just wanted to be cool both.

Speaker 1 (01:41:32):
If you want to be cool with both, he said,
you want the gear from both of.

Speaker 2 (01:41:36):
Them, I'm gonna go both to getting I mean, that's man,
you got no listen, I'm a bigger We're doing We're
gonna do a shot because you know it's one love,
one love.

Speaker 1 (01:41:49):
It's one love.

Speaker 2 (01:41:49):
You know what I'm saying, Because I've been trying to
get into the Yeah, the lou Louis buiton Cowboys ship.
Oh no, no, no, no, I'm not into that ship either.
Yeah I'm not.

Speaker 6 (01:41:59):
I mean, but if you talk about like I'm not
into that stuff like he tried, He tried to do it.
I saw him over there.

Speaker 2 (01:42:06):
Killed it cowboy hat like, but be honest, they could
do it.

Speaker 1 (01:42:11):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:42:12):
You know, you know who's a dope.

Speaker 6 (01:42:13):
You know it was awesome Oswell Bow Tang you know
you make make suits and Sava Roa in London, bang
from He's a super sharp to the t growing man.

Speaker 1 (01:42:26):
Stuff Okay, that good stuff too.

Speaker 2 (01:42:29):
I like everyone thinks, I like you know who.

Speaker 6 (01:42:31):
I also like Jerry Lorenzo, you know, from this is
Brank fair of god essence, fair guy, yeah, fair guys dope.
But I remember Jerry in LA when he used to
run the nightclub scene and thing I lived out in
LA and then to see him like, you know, and Jerry,
Jerry come from his father as a baseball player from

I think Dodgers or something that's Super Baseball MLB. Jerry's
you know, me, been around sports a long time, so
he kind of inspired by that athletic word that he's doing.

Speaker 1 (01:43:04):
So I like, I like what Jerry's doing.

Speaker 2 (01:43:06):
He's one of my.

Speaker 1 (01:43:06):
Guys too, So I guy, you didn't, guy, you didn't
throw him into the mix?

Speaker 2 (01:43:11):
Yep? Okay, and we did take a shot for that, right,
we take a smoke.

Speaker 1 (01:43:18):
One of these. Yeah, please Dave Chappelle or Chris Rock
all right, Dave Chappelle analog or did you h whatever?

Speaker 2 (01:43:32):
Hey, I got an.

Speaker 1 (01:43:32):
iPhone podcast or radio podcast because you know what.

Speaker 2 (01:43:43):
We got to move with the times. And I like
this show. God damn it that Gregory Isaac's Peter Tosh.
I guess we're thinking for that method Man or red

Man the brothers.

Speaker 1 (01:44:09):
That's true. That's why we said, what do you do?

Speaker 2 (01:44:16):
You gotta do it both.

Speaker 1 (01:44:17):
Okay, you can't like. That's one thing you can't like.
That's one you.

Speaker 6 (01:44:22):
That's like I said, you said like you just can't
put those guys against each other.

Speaker 1 (01:44:26):
You care, that's like that. That's something.

Speaker 6 (01:44:28):
Wait a minute, those are that's one of them things
that you should drink on your own for it.

Speaker 1 (01:44:37):

Speaker 2 (01:44:39):
That's a true question.

Speaker 1 (01:44:41):
That's like a trick. Okay, love or fear? You'd rather
be love or feared?

Speaker 2 (01:44:52):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:44:53):
Mm hmm. This is the Robert. I'm gonna tell you
why though love? Because why love? You see a lion?

Speaker 2 (01:45:04):
You have to love me? Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:45:06):
But you yourself, no, you fear me?

Speaker 2 (01:45:10):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:45:11):
You did, right.

Speaker 6 (01:45:12):
So it's love first because I walk in dominion and
I walk in love with myself. But you're on the
outside when you look on this lion, you know it's fear,
but it's truly love. So because we're ever ready, you
know what I mean. But it's really love. But we're lions.
And I saw a lion or that that was.

Speaker 1 (01:45:34):
All ended with this one yeah, yeah, not.

Speaker 2 (01:45:45):
But in the interview with tamaslave loyalty or respect loyalty?

Speaker 1 (01:45:52):
Okay, is that fast? Because with loyalty come respect because
you know, first you have to have the loyalty. Then
there's cook. You know, respect is subjective because some things
you do true love and true loyalty, and then it
becomes like I respect this man because I love this person,

and I'm liing to this person because of love. So
it's really you know, it's always got to be loyaltyalty,
you know, it's just truth. I'll take a shot to that.

Speaker 2 (01:46:21):
Yeah, I'm taking you ain't take a shot, take a lot.
You got mass smart, that was smarter, That was smart.
I ain't gonna lie. You know, I'm gonna take You
want to do it together, you know, because you know,
you know what it's just in my mind. I got
to get because he's back from it's my mind. I

got to say this out. One thing about Jamaicans, right,
Jamaicans always had juice bars wherever I was at my hood,
and they would be.

Speaker 1 (01:47:01):
The most health conscious people. They're preaching it, preaching it
at the same time telling me, but.

Speaker 2 (01:47:11):
Who says it's not health I didn't say it's not.

Speaker 1 (01:47:15):
But that's that's tackling mental health.

Speaker 2 (01:47:17):
I give you, I give you. You know, in the hood,
a lot of people can't afford to go to the doctors.
So what they do is they go to the local
juice bar. And I remember, I tell this story all
the time. That's the reason why I believe in tager bone.
I believe in pills.

Speaker 1 (01:47:35):
Believing it and drinking it every day.

Speaker 2 (01:47:36):
It's two different things. But okay, I went to a
juice ball one day. The police came. I've ran into
the juice bar. I did not realize that the juice
bar was the west. So I'm wanting into where they
they're going. They're reading you running from them, running into
where they're going, looking idiot. So I get outside and
then the police say to me, well, what was you

doing in there? I was like, I was buying tiger
bone and the police is like, okay, great, I didn't
know tager bone was illegal at the time. They run
in whatever. Whatever. The next day I come up, I say, yo,
what the fuck happened? This is some idiot told the
police we were selling tagaphone.

Speaker 10 (01:48:14):
I was like, that was me.

Speaker 2 (01:48:16):
They was like, normay, this is illegal. So anyway, that
same week, a guy comes to the same health whose
spot and he hugs this man. He hugs this man.
And when he hugged him, I never seen a man
hug another man. This platonic. This is a platonic. But

this was like and he said it was like he
started crying. So I looked, and I was that curious.
I was like, yo, my man, I never seen like,
you know, one straight man hugging him, a straight man
like that, Like what happened? He said? Straight? He said,
he said, my dick didn't work for seven years.

Speaker 1 (01:49:00):
Are here?

Speaker 2 (01:49:01):
He said, I told my this is the guy saying
this to me. He said, he told his wife to
cheat on him because he couldn't he couldn't please them.
But this man got ginger root and fucking tiger bone
and and and these pills from these rosterfarians. And this
man said, I'm fucking like a rabbit right now. And

I'm looking he's crying his tears.

Speaker 1 (01:49:27):
This is a grown man.

Speaker 2 (01:49:29):
This is a grown man.

Speaker 1 (01:49:30):
This is beyond years.

Speaker 2 (01:49:32):
I can't even tell you what type of sixties he was.

Speaker 1 (01:49:35):
In, even a silver status.

Speaker 2 (01:49:37):
Yeah, he had you beat. His ship was great everywhere.
His ship was great. He's a culture and he starts
a roster Farian cultures and man, this guy is somewhere naked.

Speaker 6 (01:49:54):
You know what, you know what your couture, angoes you meet,
you know why, it's the cousin. What's the most important
thing to us as human beings? Men are women to reproduce?
No having a partner, right, like why right? Why for

for creation?

Speaker 2 (01:50:18):
For yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:50:19):
So so it's so it's the most important monication. Part
of that's the crowd say, it's a form of love. Okay,
it's an exercise, it's an exchange each other.

Speaker 2 (01:50:35):
Right, But you have to be able to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:50:38):
You've got to be able to service your you have
to I mean, so you have to just be able
to you know, provide.

Speaker 2 (01:50:47):
You got to do that. You gotta do that.

Speaker 1 (01:50:49):
So our culture, guys, yeah, facts, our culture is like that.

Speaker 6 (01:50:53):
Everything you drink, everything you eat is all based around
that fish. You drink fish water for this, not.

Speaker 1 (01:51:01):
Every this is that. Everything is around the productive organs.

Speaker 2 (01:51:06):
Every everything that every every Jamaican friend of mine sorrow everything. Yeah,
that's why you're sorry, every everything for the wine, everything
know everything everything your last longer what we gonna lasts? Long.

Hold using bathroom? You gotta use the bath room.

Speaker 1 (01:51:36):
No, I'm fine, okay, hold on, I guess all right, Well, okay,
you put.

Speaker 8 (01:51:41):
It, you make it?

Speaker 2 (01:51:44):
What's that?

Speaker 1 (01:51:45):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:51:45):
What what is that?

Speaker 1 (01:51:47):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:51:47):
You smoke?

Speaker 1 (01:51:48):
No, I don't smoke.

Speaker 2 (01:51:50):
You know my lungs are still in the nineties.

Speaker 1 (01:51:53):
I'm sorry. My lungs haven't grow up.

Speaker 2 (01:51:56):
My moms have not grown.

Speaker 6 (01:51:58):
I see you running, though, which I see you running
every morning getting five A I'm jealous.

Speaker 1 (01:52:05):
Yes, you know. You make me jualdous. You motivate, You
motivate us. You want to could be a drink, but
you know what, we're gonna have a balance in like
you motivated us.

Speaker 7 (01:52:15):
You do.

Speaker 1 (01:52:16):
It's good to see you doing that. I like to
run on the beach myself.

Speaker 2 (01:52:20):
Oh yeah, I'll tell you. I want we're going with
your man stap on the bike. Nobody's in our way. Yeah,
move out the bike lay.

Speaker 1 (01:52:31):
Ryan stays moving. Your son has a hit record out
now you ship?

Speaker 2 (01:52:38):
Yeah? I mean, how can you and Laura not make
have a son with a hit record?

Speaker 1 (01:52:43):
It's just it just has to go. It goes along
with it. I can.

Speaker 6 (01:52:46):
I'm gonna say this though, commend miss Laurence Hill, because yes,
when we talk about like, I only know certain people
like this, right, And it's just I mean, you know,
obviously it's my son, you know, but you know she's
his mother and.

Speaker 1 (01:53:05):
You know what her craft is. Absolutely, but I only
know certain people like this.

Speaker 6 (01:53:09):
And it's one of the reasons why when I was young,
I always made it my point to never interfere with
Missile's music, like I always, you know, I take a
backseat to her music because she's super great, you know.
And you talk about public enemy. I remember when Chuck
d said, like Laurence like the female about Marley. You

know he's right about that. Yeah, it's truly right because
she's like really that person. And when you talk about
someone that stands on principle, you know, like because like
I said, at some point in life, you got like
own yourself, you know, like on yourself, you know what
I mean. But I'm here, I want to get here,

you no, not, I mean like that because you know,
as a musician and because sometimes you like going through stages, right,
and then it so happens that you still have to
do this, but you're still going to your own mind
and solidifying your consciousness in regards to walk in this
way that you see as your way, and no one

believes in your way because it's not your way.

Speaker 1 (01:54:16):
So you have to kind of own your way.

Speaker 6 (01:54:17):
And it's new to you because it's a vision that
you have for yourself, right, so this way is new
to you.

Speaker 2 (01:54:24):
So for you to attain this way, you have to
do it.

Speaker 6 (01:54:27):
And people are going to say, oh, she's this, she's that,
But then again you're in your mind and then you
got to perform. So sometimes there's a delay because of
all the accolades, all the attributes that go along without
the attire and this and that. The timing is always
you know, may you get up at one and you
got to be on stage at eight, but you take
five hours to do this, you know, So you know
timing is so. But today and been through that and

seeing her in Brooklyn performing with the fuji Is again
learning on the Fuji is it was just like questioning,
you know what the greatest, the greatest rap band ever
in history is the Foujie's hands down.

Speaker 2 (01:55:06):
So to see them on stage together again and Lauren
Hill and the Sons and like they're like the standings here.
That's that's that's kind of crazy. I didn't even look
at that, so you just said that that's real. So
it is what it is.

Speaker 6 (01:55:21):
But to see now why G and to watch why
G Marley because his name means young Gong. My dad
is tough junior go, so I mean, but y G
like it's special. You know, my brother called my brother
Stephen when he was young, he called him Josh.

Speaker 2 (01:55:42):

Speaker 6 (01:55:43):
He's baptizing the river, the Orthodox river, by the same
priests that baptized my father. All of us Orthodox. Yeah,
we're all Orthodox, you know, but especially you know, I
grew up in Jersey, South Orange, so but he's he's
rough because you know, there's no better so Jersey South Orange. Yeah,
and you walk South Orange went to like Columbia High

School and thing hunting and then places, so you g
going to go as like an independent, you would still
finding his way because as his parents, we don't really
try to.

Speaker 1 (01:56:15):
Did what you did, like found his own way? Yeah,
Fox so too, I mean, And then you know, first
when I heard the song, I was like, wow, Josh, Wow,
we got to clear this.

Speaker 2 (01:56:27):
Who do I think? Who do you think? I'm sorry? Yeah,
who do you think had more pressure? You trying to
be great in your world or him trying to be
great in his world.

Speaker 1 (01:56:37):
Oh, man, he don't have no pressure. Man, he don't
have no pressure. His mother paved the way I did
what I had to do, his father, grandfather, legacy.

Speaker 6 (01:56:49):
He ain't got no pressure. Did you see how cool
he is? But it ain't because of that. It's because
of the cause of his own life, his own experiences
being that. And then remember, right, Lauren Hill is his mother.
Listen to all the stuff in the media about your mother,

whatever they say about your father, but listen to how
they try to hurt your mother because she don't confine
the system and listening to that and going to.

Speaker 1 (01:57:20):
School and you have to and still have to be
the lion that you are.

Speaker 2 (01:57:24):
He's like, yeah, fuck that. So yeah, I have to
take a shot.

Speaker 6 (01:57:32):
Because they tried to destroy Lauren because miss Hale pardon me,
they tried to destroy Miss Hill's work and legacy because
she didn't want to do another miseducation the way they
wanted her to do it.

Speaker 2 (01:57:45):
She wanted to make.

Speaker 6 (01:57:45):
Music as her evolution, so through that now they would
you know, so you know the record, you know the thing.

Speaker 1 (01:57:53):
But she ain't gonna bow to that. So she's a
real queen in that industry.

Speaker 6 (01:57:57):
And she's and people say, oh, we don't, well, if
you're true Lauren Hill fan, you know that whether she's
not at the same time that you guys want her
to be on stage, but she had been touring ever
since and still touring today. So she's like to me,
she's like the band, like she built a career like

the Grateful Dead.

Speaker 1 (01:58:19):
She's not like a woman. She don't chase some interviews.
That's ad person.

Speaker 6 (01:58:25):
But now it's so beautiful to see her create her
art and teach Joshua the way and bring Joshua on
stage open for the Fuji's reunion and Laurenie on the
Fujis to give him away and give him a spotlight
and and like guide him, help him to orchestrate his
music like kind of you know, she's a.

Speaker 1 (01:58:48):
G like really g like real g bro bro Like
she's ill. She's like top notch.

Speaker 2 (01:58:54):
It's like a shot what you call them.

Speaker 1 (01:59:00):
Yeah, you gotta call her by her name, Miss Hills.
You know, some people go by this and that, you
go by that. Cheers fellows, cheer, cheers still that ye
respect holy ship and we had prize On, we had
w Cleft, we had a white Cliff. Brothers, brothers, yes,
my brothers, both of them. We would love to have them.

Speaker 2 (01:59:20):
We would love to have miss Hill.

Speaker 1 (01:59:24):
We please. We're not asking, We're just saying it out loud.
We want ask you. No, no, we're asking.

Speaker 2 (01:59:41):
We're asking the God.

Speaker 1 (01:59:44):
He's not saying Miss Hill. Trust no, I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:59:53):
That's the respect I have, right because trust me, I
don't want to know.

Speaker 1 (01:59:57):
Man, no interruption. So but but I like, I will
do a copy paste. You know, I have nothing to
do with this. Just I'm just sharing. I will for sure,
I'll share that, you know. And then obviously.

Speaker 6 (02:00:20):
You know now now now because people always try to
like pin you to a time, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (02:00:28):
And like you said, oh I remember, you know. I
read the comments.

Speaker 2 (02:00:31):
Oh this guy.

Speaker 1 (02:00:32):
I remember this guy because the one.

Speaker 6 (02:00:35):
Thing for sure, though she don't like when to talk
about this, but I like to talk about it because
it's a fact.

Speaker 1 (02:00:42):
I remember these people. I see this guy, this keyboard player,
he's always such.

Speaker 6 (02:00:45):
A great guy whatever whatever, But anyway, he wasn't around
when Messille was doing missidication was on Hill. And I
remember when those New York guys. There were like one
guy was a programmer. She don't like going to talk about.
I'm gonn talk about anyway, because they like to paint
her in this image. I remember she in the programmer
with talented programmer drum program you know, took him out
of the New York and he had a bridging named Kilo,

and they created this New York entertainment group.

Speaker 2 (02:01:09):
I remember them in the Two Twins.

Speaker 1 (02:01:10):
I was there.

Speaker 6 (02:01:11):
She brought him upstairs to her her place in the
in New York and kind of like because she really
came programmed the drums, but she knew her sound. She
know what she wanted and those guys can swing it
with her swinger and things like Michael.

Speaker 1 (02:01:25):
Michael didn't know how to play music, but he would.

Speaker 7 (02:01:27):
Hum the music.

Speaker 2 (02:01:28):
She could swing it.

Speaker 6 (02:01:29):
She so so the time when those guys, you know,
they they oh, Missle, we want to want such and
such on this because when she met them, she said
to those guys that, you know, I'll get you guys
a publishing deal with Sony, but you but my music
is my music. And after she did her thing, the
guys came back and tried to sue her, right but

because miss.

Speaker 1 (02:01:51):
Hill at the time.

Speaker 6 (02:01:53):
Was doing her Sabbatico right sabbatico, meaning she got in
depth within the Bible, like she really like she's really
one of them people like you know about mine taken
on Rastafarai. It's such another way, you know, she just
take on the truth like tu them old Testament where
she just take take on this life so to to

build her true foundation of self and what she believed in.
But she she was in that wavelength, the system was
able to take advantage of her right because she she
she didn't really defend anything.

Speaker 1 (02:02:27):
She said, I don't get whatever she would like the
material like she was in that space. Yes, that so
what you know.

Speaker 6 (02:02:35):
But those guys know that, and they and because it
didn't have to be that way, and they know that,
and they still, you know, sometimes they beg me for forgiveness,
not in those words, but me. You know, they call
me sometimes and I said, you know such and such
and such. Oh no, so whatever, you know, because as

a musician and the type of musician that she is,
she needs like certain type of musicians.

Speaker 2 (02:03:02):
But these people.

Speaker 6 (02:03:04):
The problem with these guys, they they want to be
mister star guy on your project and I'm like, she's
telling these guys no, no, no, no, no. I like
you because you know your knowledge for music and you're
the way you strumming. I like your sound. But I
need you to strumm this. Uh uh uh uh I

need I need that from you. Don't give me that.
But this is no, no no, And so that little,
that little ego thing because oh but no, I've been
studying music. I went to music school.

Speaker 1 (02:03:35):
I don't give it.

Speaker 3 (02:03:35):
You could have went to she's the conductor and they're
not letting her.

Speaker 1 (02:03:38):
Conduct, right, So so that burned their ego. And she
don't play. She don't care. So you know what, Oh,
I'm mister, I work with such a sad care fun
will you work with g like you care where you work?
I don't give it you will care. So that so
she get a bad rap for those things.

Speaker 6 (02:03:55):
But she's a true g dig and she don't play,
and she's a woman and she's for her rights as
a woman in the industry and she don't let nobody take.

Speaker 1 (02:04:03):
Advantage of her.

Speaker 2 (02:04:05):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 6 (02:04:05):
Her word is bond like that, and when she says
what she believe in, and she's one of them type
of people.

Speaker 1 (02:04:10):
So when you look at Hyeg, you look at Sayla, Sarah, Joshua,
Joshua is HyG Zion and then again our younger son is.

Speaker 2 (02:04:22):
Your kids together.

Speaker 1 (02:04:23):
Yeah, we have five okay, wow together beautiful children.

Speaker 6 (02:04:28):
Have a daughter, right, I have seven children before and
now I have five other ones, so I have twelve total.
I have seven grandchildren and two on the way. So
I have a long, big family, you do, and there
are beautiful people. So Lauren and I we have Zion first,

then we have Sailah, then we have Joshua, then we
have John, and we have Sarah.

Speaker 1 (02:04:57):
And Lauren has a son, Micah. Big respect to Micah.

Speaker 6 (02:05:02):
He's not of my he's not my child, but he's
born on July twenty third, and July twenty thirty is
the birthday of highly Slashy the first. So yeah, so
I have to love him, yes, even though he's not
I love him same way like he's not my child.
And after miss myself and Miss Lauren, you know, we traveled,

we journeyed apart, but I love him the same way
as her son. And it's truly intelligent boy too, So
that's how you know the super intelligence of Miss Dawn Hill.

Speaker 1 (02:05:32):
Her mother is a school teacher, school principal.

Speaker 6 (02:05:35):
Father is like a computer scientist brother as he's a
tech guy, smart family man, ivy league. She went to
what Columbia University for a time. Super intelligent people just
oh my god, I respect.

Speaker 2 (02:05:50):
I feel no officially.

Speaker 1 (02:05:53):
Respect respect to intelligence. Respect intelligence.

Speaker 6 (02:05:57):
So I love intelligence, by the way, yes this one,
you know, Yes, inspired by intelligence. I learned how to
use a computer after college at Miss Lauren Hill's house
after college, after I knew nothing about.

Speaker 2 (02:06:10):
This technically shit, I'm playing football.

Speaker 1 (02:06:13):

Speaker 2 (02:06:14):
He was. He was a jock.

Speaker 1 (02:06:15):
He was a jockey. Man. Man, I couldn't.

Speaker 6 (02:06:19):
I couldn't do both. I mean today I commend the
kids that are doing both. I one of that studing
pick football at the same time.

Speaker 1 (02:06:27):
Good for you. Man.

Speaker 2 (02:06:30):
Let me ask you a question. Someone asked me this
question the other day. They say, would I have to
be starstruck? And I say, yes, just probably two people
in this world I'll be starstruck with. Yeah, Larry David
from Curby Enthusiasm. Uh, last season, right this last season.

I think I will walk out the room If Larry
I think I will run out of the room because
I don't want to meet him. If he's a dick,
fuck up everything.

Speaker 1 (02:07:01):
Larry David, Larry David and uh.

Speaker 2 (02:07:06):
Jerry sim really yeah, I don't want to.

Speaker 1 (02:07:11):
Musician Sionfield, you're really a comedian listen.

Speaker 2 (02:07:15):
I don't know he is.

Speaker 1 (02:07:18):
He has that that comedian all day.

Speaker 2 (02:07:20):
Like if I go watch something all day, if you
come to my house, it's either CURBYR.

Speaker 1 (02:07:25):
Enthusiasm, yeah, or intelligent all day.

Speaker 6 (02:07:30):
Like that is intelligence, absolutely very wise. I mean I
recently met David Chappelle.

Speaker 2 (02:07:37):
Hold, sorry, let me ask, is there anybody you starstruck.

Speaker 6 (02:07:44):
Who like, like, have I met them? Or people in general?
All right, okay, all right, I remember this is when
I knew, like, this is when I like really knew
something because you know, I came to America in nineteen
eighty four, and this is when I like I knew

this was like okay, because I'm in Jamaica watching these
things and you know it was a Victory tour and
the tickets in Miami, you can't go to this concert
Victory Tour Michael Jackson and the Brothers.

Speaker 1 (02:08:23):
Wait, the Jackson five, the Victory Tour.

Speaker 2 (02:08:26):
It's called Victory Tour.

Speaker 1 (02:08:27):
Man. You guys are in music. You guys music music stuff. Yes, yeah,
but we was young and too back then. All right, whatever, man,
I'm young too, so the Victory tour, but I remember, yeah,
I remember right, they were older too. Watching the news
at my grandma's house in Miami.

Speaker 6 (02:08:45):
I just came here. It's like, I think it's like
eighty six. Yes, gotta be like eighty six. I mean
something like that, because when I was young, I wanted
those zip up zippy zippy parents like Michael Jackson had,
you know, I remember actually want the news and he
busted the moon log and remember my skin.

Speaker 2 (02:09:05):
The goose bumps. I was like, wow, so like that
you're still brown skin.

Speaker 1 (02:09:12):
At that time, Michael Jackson.

Speaker 6 (02:09:19):
And then and then the other person where like it's
like a superhero to me, Like this person is.

Speaker 2 (02:09:26):
Like what is this one is?

Speaker 1 (02:09:29):
Obviously I never met vere, but do the drum rope
for this and my son and I we have problems
about these things. Don't start the drum rope, buddy, Okay,
I mean we're in number twenty three. Oh Jordan, who
met Jordan's. I met Jordan's. Yeah, he met Jordan's.

Speaker 6 (02:09:51):
But the most awesome human being I know, like you
talked about like starstre like, wow, I remember, like Lauren,
she was getting an award for N double N C
double P N double.

Speaker 1 (02:10:07):
A C P N double a c P W A C.
He's like, all right, and that's how I made that
somebody the guy oh that she's not even right, Okay,
all right, n W A c P.

Speaker 6 (02:10:29):
So Lauren is getting an award and they're honoring Michael
Jordan's So Lauren, Dad, he says to me, miss Hill's dad, Well,
this time is Lauren for me?

Speaker 2 (02:10:39):

Speaker 1 (02:10:41):
At that time, at that time we're talking about time period,
you're married. You're married at the time, yes, as you
as you say, right, So, Lauren, dad said, you won't
believe this. Guess who you're sitting next to. He says
Michael Jordan. I said, get the funk out of here.

Speaker 6 (02:11:00):
You didn't know you were sitting next to him? No,
because we had the front row Lauren. I mean, remember
Lauren is the top of the top. It's Lauren, and
then it's it's Michael Jordan and then his wife Cookie Cookie, No,
not Cookie, No, I'm sorry. What's Michael's name wife's name?

Speaker 1 (02:11:16):
At the time? Okay, I think so.

Speaker 6 (02:11:23):
So I'm looking I can't believe fucking Michael Jordan's. It's like,
I can't fucking believe this ship. But this is the
time when he had cut cut his finger with the
cigar opener.

Speaker 2 (02:11:34):
I know his history.

Speaker 6 (02:11:35):
So he was wearing a he's wearing a band. So
I'm like, hey, you're coming back. Of course, I introduced myself.

Speaker 1 (02:11:43):
You know.

Speaker 2 (02:11:44):
Second nineteen eighty four was the Victory Tall.

Speaker 1 (02:11:47):

Speaker 6 (02:11:48):
Remember yeah, what number November second? Yeah, I just came
to America August nineteen eighty four.

Speaker 2 (02:11:57):
Yeah, so he was already on tour.

Speaker 1 (02:11:58):
Yes, really, Jean, he was No, I can't with it.

Speaker 2 (02:12:02):
No, I can't.

Speaker 6 (02:12:04):
No, I got expelled out of school Jesus, and that's
how I ended up in America. I didn't even tell
you that part of my life. But anyway, it's another
time for that.

Speaker 2 (02:12:12):
But m J.

Speaker 6 (02:12:14):
Michael Jordan's Michael Jackson, I would say, outside of my
family or like two of my heroes, heroes, heroes like
I remember sworn Saturdays.

Speaker 2 (02:12:24):
So you're saying you met both MJ's. I never met
Michael Jackson, will be with a Tall.

Speaker 1 (02:12:29):
I would know. I saw when I saw him on
the news, and my my skin had the goosebumps. That's
when I was young.

Speaker 6 (02:12:38):
I mean I wanted the parachute, the jacket, I wanted
that stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:12:42):
I wanted the Michael Jackson like I thriller joint, like
Billy Jean beat it. The red black, uh huh, the
red black red specific red, red, recific red red red
is thriller red.

Speaker 2 (02:12:57):
It's a lot about you because looking about you, what
does this say?

Speaker 1 (02:13:02):
The black one you might still rob somebody. The red
one you go on to the left.

Speaker 2 (02:13:08):
The left, we don't know the left we left.

Speaker 1 (02:13:11):
We don't know where the level went at bag. But
I'm red ya fire.

Speaker 2 (02:13:17):
Yes you're a Protestant.

Speaker 1 (02:13:20):
Yeah, sure recipes bless him, bless him, bless hum.

Speaker 6 (02:13:24):
So yeah, so that those are my would be. I
would say people that I think very like as Jackson. Yeah, man,
I remember warring SAP. One day, right, come on a FaceTime, Hey,
ro I got somebody for you. Put Michael Jordan on faced.

I was like, yo, hey, maen so on the golf course.
You know they're on the boat on the citing the
back of fishing rich ship my bad. So I was
trying to tell him that streamment. I remember meeting you, like, hey,
man up like.

Speaker 1 (02:14:04):
Cut me up.

Speaker 6 (02:14:05):
But but but the problem was, you know, you can't
get you can't take him too much time in this man,
So he's like what you're saying, I'm trying to tell
him my story.

Speaker 2 (02:14:13):
Man, I met you and so and so and.

Speaker 1 (02:14:18):
Was like you can't hear that ship.

Speaker 6 (02:14:26):
No, step is the type of guy you've been full
conversation Step such and.

Speaker 1 (02:14:31):
Such a later.

Speaker 2 (02:14:33):
But yeah, yeah, all right, what that's sad. That's sad.
That's sad.

Speaker 1 (02:14:38):
Yeah, Michael Jordan, Michael Jackson, that's the only people you
were fan out.

Speaker 2 (02:14:42):
No, I mean Pele, I.

Speaker 1 (02:14:44):
Met soccer player Pele like like soccer when you talk
about I'm an athlete, dig.

Speaker 2 (02:14:50):
So how about Messy?

Speaker 6 (02:14:52):
Yeah, I'm I mean I remember I'm a little older,
so I always go all the way, you know, to
the right. Although, Daniel, I'm Brazilian players, but Messi I
do like. But but I'm more of like, I'm more
in Zil. I'm more I'm more of a Brazilian guy.

Speaker 1 (02:15:09):
Where's Messi from Argentina?

Speaker 6 (02:15:12):
I'm Brazil And then Ronaldo Christina what was his name?
I mean, I like Christian because he's a legend. He's
one of the most famous football players in the world.

Speaker 1 (02:15:22):
But I'm in Brazil. I mean, I'm like Brazil, Brazil. Yeah,
we're not. We have a daughter from Brazil.

Speaker 2 (02:15:30):
He came to my birthday party.

Speaker 3 (02:15:39):
I bet you we can say any continent. I feel
like he's gonna be like, I have a kid from that.
You're in Brazil said, yeah, I have a daughter in Brazil.

Speaker 1 (02:15:52):
I do.

Speaker 2 (02:15:53):
Name is Maria. I think we could be like, well, my.

Speaker 1 (02:15:55):
Presilian daughter Maria. But I feel like I fear if
we say the moon, you might be like, yes.

Speaker 2 (02:16:02):
The Moon. I have a child.

Speaker 1 (02:16:05):
I told you about my You know, I'm into UFOs
seers to that.

Speaker 2 (02:16:11):
Who has both kids? Your pops?

Speaker 6 (02:16:14):
But you know, my dad is a father to the world.
But naturally, you know, nine eleven children?

Speaker 2 (02:16:21):
Is that?

Speaker 1 (02:16:22):
Is that the Rastafarian way to program is that really
is not really a Rastafari way to program me. I
think it's everyone's way, right, right, But I'm saying in
that Magnifude, Well, well.

Speaker 6 (02:16:33):
I guess what I'm just having to be honest, I
guess what happens right, say, like, for instance, as a
human being, I have a girlfriend, right or a woman
that I consider I'm gonna be with this woman for
a long time, right, So we're naturally having intercourse.

Speaker 2 (02:16:52):
And if you have intercourse over a.

Speaker 6 (02:16:54):
Period of time a lot of times, naturally there's gonna
have certain results and they're gonna be positive. So over
a certain period of time, you know, it just happens
that you have children with the woman you're with. So
it's like that, it's really it's like it's being with

someone and having a child. And then normally, naturally when
you're younger, when you're much younger, right, you know, and
you're trying to find yourself too, and so sometimes you know,
you do things where you don't say you're right or wrong.
You just feel like it's the right way, because who's
to tell you it's the wrong way, right, So you

figuring it out for yourself. So you think this woman
is the woman you want to be with, and you're
the person. Then the person along the way changes your
ways or you change your way towards this person. Naturally, yes,
So it doesn't work out, So you end up being
with someone else, and then you have another child, and
then it doesn't work out. Then you end up being

someone else and you have another child, and then it
doesn't work out, and it just happens to not work
out some of the times, and it works.

Speaker 1 (02:18:07):
How you manage fothering the children.

Speaker 2 (02:18:09):
That's the best birds in the best conversation I've ever
heard of.

Speaker 1 (02:18:11):
With how you manage them. It's just like you manage
your friends, right right, So if you so friends, family,
how you manage life? Like some people don't have children,
they manage like Yeah, have you ever seen.

Speaker 2 (02:18:23):
A dog walker?

Speaker 1 (02:18:24):
You've seen one at walk like fifteen dogs. How you
manage that? That's what he does. So I, as a father,
I live for my children. My life is to raise children.

Speaker 2 (02:18:35):
That's what I live up.

Speaker 1 (02:18:36):
I love that.

Speaker 6 (02:18:36):
That's why I want to raise like a champion, you know,
So like it's my It's like my my is when
I get to mold. So that's like my purpose in life.

Speaker 2 (02:18:46):
Like the things I do is for that.

Speaker 6 (02:18:49):
And then again it's also a form of pro creating.
And true some instances were loved, some instances but just happens.
But you know, now, I'm more discipline my human girlvernor
playing that so like one of them, it's not gonna play.
She don't play it. But that's another story. But she

don't play, and she gives me. She loved my children.
She gives me that respect and thing. You know, a second.
But to do that, you have to be a father.
You have to be committed to your children. And you
have to know that it is your responsibility as a man.
You know your children or your children, and you must
And my house is my children. My doors are open

to my children. I have children that are married. You know,
my daughter Eden, she's married and she has two nice,
beautiful daughters. My grandfathers to them. I have a son,
like my children graduate college. I have older children. They're
in there, one thirty year old up on this and
then the youngest you have. My youngest is going to
be two in March.

Speaker 7 (02:19:52):
Wow, you out of control, bro. I actually I'm unplay.
But I have a three year old in the fire,
and I'm out of control.

Speaker 6 (02:20:04):
Well I think I'm like in control and stuff. No,
but I understand what you say that. But you know what,
that's the that's just you know, it's part of.

Speaker 1 (02:20:13):
What I eat. He said.

Speaker 2 (02:20:20):
I'm a good father, a productive guy, a ginger roote.

Speaker 1 (02:20:25):
I can produce. Man, I'm a productive guy. So but
but now I'm I'm I'm you know, I'm very I'm
very settled in life and I find the right person
for me and then I'm moving on like that. So
it's good. But I feel like I have a lot
of children that I need now to to build them,
build the characters, build leaders, and have my own little

army so that I can focus on, you know, and
they make you as well, Yeah, make you.

Speaker 6 (02:20:52):
So that's what I love about children. It's my responsibility.
It's like, it's my responsibility everything about my child and
my children of them so much, you know, all of them,
you know, and they love each other because I was
raised this way. So it's like and also I'm.

Speaker 1 (02:21:07):
A product of my environment because you know, growing up
where you just have this way. But then when you
get older, you realize, you know, maybe it's time to
like be like Ziggi or Cidella, you know, where you
just kind of settle a down and live life where
you don't have to worry about things. And because it's
a it's a manageable thing, but it's you shouldn't have

to manage life. So I want to live a life
full of trust and that's peaceful where my woman can
take my phone and do it or whatever. I don't
want to worry about those things again, like yeah, like
because as strong as you are, right as a woman's
there's a woman that's stronger than you, so and so,
and that's just keep puting it where the woman can
take the phone. Yeah, it's like that because it's too hard.

Speaker 2 (02:21:53):
I can't do it.

Speaker 1 (02:21:54):
No, but you know it's not necessariainly stressful but not
necessarily the thing. But you don't want to live, like
but it's just like you get to focus on other things, man,
And then.

Speaker 2 (02:22:04):
Most people is broke to you know that? Yeah, they
broke because like they all the time cheating. I hear you,
like trying.

Speaker 1 (02:22:12):
I can't. I can't look, I can't. I can't call
myself innocent. Like I've never been a bad guy in
people's eyes. I started as just being cool. It's growth,
it's growth, we all, we all sure.

Speaker 2 (02:22:26):
But let me ask you because we talked about Warren Sapp. Yeah,
we talked about ray Lewis. Didn't talk about was you
at the u M You played at the h U
M U M Rock? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:22:38):
Do ah?

Speaker 2 (02:22:39):
You playing with the rock? Excuse me? Do we call
him do it at that time?

Speaker 1 (02:22:43):

Speaker 2 (02:22:44):
But he's the rock? But so you mean I can
walk up to the Rock, do we. I don't think
you can do it.

Speaker 1 (02:22:48):

Speaker 2 (02:22:48):
What was the season? I'm not sure. I don't think
I hold up.

Speaker 1 (02:22:52):
I think you guys had a record season, right we
always do?

Speaker 4 (02:22:54):
You know?

Speaker 6 (02:22:55):
In my college career, I think I lost three games.
In my entire career, we won fifty eight games straight
at home.

Speaker 1 (02:23:01):
Yeah, I've never.

Speaker 6 (02:23:06):
I've never played on a team that was ranked less
than number three in the country.

Speaker 1 (02:23:10):
So you were the Rock.

Speaker 6 (02:23:12):
Yeah, the Rock played with us. Yes, and we played
with the Rock as well, meaning like you know, the
person on the football field like friends were you and
family that's dope.

Speaker 2 (02:23:26):
Anybody else We're not naming how you play with worms
and mind you and mind you.

Speaker 1 (02:23:34):
But they kind of played with me though, like they
played with you, they played with you. I'm the motherfucking
when I was there, I'm the leader you can when
I'm there, I'm leading that team like they played with me.
When you when you talk to sad, Yeah, I played
the real hand. We talked.

Speaker 6 (02:23:50):
Now, I'm kidding, but listen, ro this is what I'm
trying to say. Right, we could predict you know what
happened to me? You know how I learned the game?
I came here when they expelled me from Cool in
Jamaica because you know, just an, I didn't like the school,
I didn't like the people, but it's whatever happened.

Speaker 1 (02:24:07):
They expelled me.

Speaker 6 (02:24:08):
So when I came here, I was going to a
school and then Pine Crest Pinkerst Elementary And it was
nineteen eighty four and it's during the time when the
Miami Dolphins were like very good with Dan Marino killing
Like if you no, if you ever asked me about
like were my favorite people, like the Miami Dolphins that

Marino was one of my favorite guys growing up the eighties. Yeah,
So at the school they would play Miami Dolphins, Miami Dolphins,
Dolphins and one, so I started loving the game.

Speaker 1 (02:24:41):
And during the time, they were trying.

Speaker 6 (02:24:43):
To like they seize my father's asset because they were trying.

Speaker 2 (02:24:47):
To sell his rights.

Speaker 6 (02:24:48):
Right it's published in You wasn't trying to do that well,
the trust in Jamaica because my dad never left a will.

Speaker 1 (02:24:55):
So it got it was crazy, right, So because of.

Speaker 6 (02:24:58):
That, they tried to he never tr We had a trust,
but the trust wanted to sell all as asset or
they no.

Speaker 1 (02:25:03):
Longer want to manage the assets. But that was just
them trying to destroy another man, you know, liquidate all
his assets. So Chris Blackwell, there's a short story. Chris
Blackwell ended up lending the family the money. We the children,
not that that's us, because that's us as Mama Rita
and all the kids. So we got we borrow the money,
and we bought our dad's rights, so we own everything.

That's when we end up owning our father's rights. So
that's that's wow. So now coming to America during that
time with the court is.

Speaker 2 (02:25:32):
Movie coming to America, You come in to America.

Speaker 1 (02:25:35):
Yeah, it's a good reference because I like that because
it is because it's coming to Americ King. I am
a king. The King is the movement. Let me take
you about this king though.

Speaker 6 (02:25:47):
So this king came to America during that time, and
when they seized all my father's assets and everything. I
remember them talking about selling my granny's house that we
were living in, and being that I was one of
Bob's child living in the house, I was able to
put a pause on the sale to kind of like
jurisdiction rights.

Speaker 1 (02:26:07):
But also remember living off.

Speaker 6 (02:26:09):
Of my dad's social Security check ninety nine dollars a
month here in America.

Speaker 1 (02:26:16):
Is American social Security? Yeah wow?

Speaker 6 (02:26:18):
Because yeah, my dad has an American Social Security check.
Remember he worked in Delaware for some time, you know that,
well he did. He was like, if you work on
the Forclift, work with the DuPont family, these type of people,
such and such, well, my granny worked with them. He
worked for like Chevy or whatever company is there. So anyway,
I ended up coming here during that time because my

family didn't have no money. My brothers would come to
Miami and kind of help out with the bills. Mama
Retail would help out with the bills because everything was
seized up. So we were able to borrow some money
from Chris Blackwell to buy our father's rights. And during
this time, I wanted to like not pressure the family,
So I ended up learning to play football and got

a scholarship so I didn't have to bother my family
about going to college.

Speaker 2 (02:27:05):
And you know, being that I was a failure, I just.

Speaker 6 (02:27:08):
Showed these motherfuckers that I'm going to go to fucking um.
You bastards that hated me so much because I came
from Spanish Town and I was Bob's child and I
was supposed to be a failure.

Speaker 2 (02:27:20):
So I had to do that.

Speaker 6 (02:27:21):
So I had to put these fucker's wrong and go
to the um. They bought that UM. And then that's
kind of my way, you know, and that's how I
got into football. I got a scholarship.

Speaker 3 (02:27:31):
So just to recap a lot of this though, this
is the time period that the Marley name is not
making money because it's being like these.

Speaker 1 (02:27:41):
And there's all the all the bootleggers. Everything is seized up,
everybody running around. So we had to get everything under control,
and it took a long long time.

Speaker 3 (02:27:51):
And Chris Blackwell, if I'm not wrong, the same dude,
the only Marlin hotel right at the studio there.

Speaker 1 (02:27:57):
I used to do a lot of stuff there.

Speaker 6 (02:27:58):
So here his name a Marlon EANs like Golden Golden
Beach in Jamaica, I forget the name of that place,
Bond where James Bond did some stuff in Jamaica.

Speaker 1 (02:28:11):
And Strawberry Hills or my dad went.

Speaker 6 (02:28:13):
After the Yeah, my dad went there after the assassination attempt.

Speaker 2 (02:28:16):
He went to Strawberry Hills.

Speaker 1 (02:28:18):
So yeah, Chris Blackwell, good man, you know, he helped
us out.

Speaker 2 (02:28:21):
He looked out for us.

Speaker 6 (02:28:22):
I mean it's the only person. And another story with
Michael Jackson. So this is the human side of Mike Jackson.
Michael Jackson, Okay.

Speaker 2 (02:28:30):
This is the human side.

Speaker 1 (02:28:33):
So we needed the money as a family.

Speaker 6 (02:28:36):
MCA wanted to buy my dad's rights, right, Sony Japan
wanted to buy my father's rights.

Speaker 1 (02:28:45):
We asked Michael Jackson's for some money. Michael Jackson wanted
to buy my fathers because he bought the Beatles. He
did so he never learned this the money. So Mike
wanted to buy the rights. You never learned iced the money.

Speaker 3 (02:28:58):
But Chris Blackwell, who was a good guy, you loan
us the money. Oh so you're saying a human that
wasn't such a great.

Speaker 6 (02:29:06):
No human, No, tell me as an entrepreneur. The human side, Yeah,
the human beingside. We gotta pay your bills side. And
you got Chris Blackwell loaned you the money. Work where
Michael wanted to buy the rights, absolutely, and you guys
were not interested in selling the rights.

Speaker 1 (02:29:26):
So I remember one of the offers. I think it
was like nineteen ninety one. It was like twenty million dollars.

Speaker 6 (02:29:32):
So one of my things was because everyone has to
sign all the children everyone, all the children we have
to sign, and how many children is.

Speaker 2 (02:29:38):
This eleven of us?

Speaker 1 (02:29:40):

Speaker 6 (02:29:42):
Yeah, yeah, eleven of us or ten of us that
I have us signing rights, so we all have to sign.
So my thing was, well, shit, if it's worth twenty
million to then we think it's worth to us.

Speaker 1 (02:29:55):
Exactly right, you know what I mean?

Speaker 6 (02:29:58):
Like shit, I mean, wow, whoa, that's nice. But we're
talking about it worth a trillion dollars to us? Man,
what you can think about that?

Speaker 1 (02:30:07):
Yeah? No, I can't bargain that. Let's start there, you know,
let's come on, come up with a trillion so we
can make some change, real change.

Speaker 2 (02:30:14):
So that's what we thought about it.

Speaker 6 (02:30:16):
So I remember even then because as a youth, right,
you get this option as a Marley boy or a
Marley child from what was sold and the money that
was loaned because you borrowed it. When you become eighteen
years old, you get a million dollars, right, And I remember.

Speaker 1 (02:30:33):
Being at University of my end.

Speaker 3 (02:30:34):
But wait, hold hold up, So when you guys become
any Marty child becomes eighteen years old, you get a
million dollars.

Speaker 1 (02:30:40):
Right because of because of what they sold, what the
trust that is right right, I was there, so we
had to like borrow that money and you know, you.

Speaker 2 (02:30:48):
Get it, but you owe it kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (02:30:50):
Oh it's alone.

Speaker 2 (02:30:50):
It's I'm gonna tell you about it.

Speaker 1 (02:30:52):
I don't know what it is, but I don't even
know what it is, but I'm gonna tell you how.

Speaker 2 (02:30:55):
It worked out.

Speaker 6 (02:30:56):
So anyway, when I was in college, I remember the
lawyers coming to my my school and they're telling me, Hey,
you're eighteen years old. Now what's your decision? You know,
I said, what decision I got to make? You can
sign here and own. Because of the loan that we took,
the twelve million dollar loan, we have to pay that
loan back. So my million dollars needs either it's going

to go back to paying that loan or be tame
another part of the loan, because it now it's becoming art.
We're owning this company. We're we're barny mine to own
our dads like any other people. We're barning money against that. Yes,
so now I get the million dollars or do I
take a million dollars and go live on the beach

in Jamaica by the mansion, do all the great things
I can do in the life and we set forever
in my life.

Speaker 1 (02:31:48):
Let's do it, or do I take thirty six thousand
dollars and carry on.

Speaker 6 (02:31:54):
So if the choice is the million dollars will go
back you own you're a part of this company that
owns all your day's rights, which is like all the family,
we own that.

Speaker 1 (02:32:05):
Or we take your million dollars and really cash out.

Speaker 2 (02:32:10):

Speaker 6 (02:32:11):
So the lawyers like, hey, well you know these motherfuckers man,
because the lawyer, right, the bigger the pot, the more
he makes, Right, what do you care about me?

Speaker 1 (02:32:21):
You know what I'm saying. So he wants you get
the bigger amounts. So you can't get a bigger percentage, Yeah,
because it's the bigger the part, the more fam if
I give him.

Speaker 6 (02:32:28):
If I take the thirty, he's not going to be happy.
If I get the MILLI and go, you take whatever
you take out that and I be rich forever by
a million dollars in nineteen ninety two.

Speaker 1 (02:32:40):
So I ask these motherfuckers.

Speaker 6 (02:32:42):
I say, to these these asshole lawyers, these people that
work for people that actually they own you, I say,
let me ask you something. What did my brothers and
sisters do my older brothers. Remember we talk about age.
What did Zig and Sidela do and Steven?

Speaker 1 (02:32:58):
What did they do?

Speaker 6 (02:33:00):
Row they took the thirty thousand. I said, where do
I sign? Give me the fucking thirty thousan dollars and
get the fuck out. I didn't see all that part.

Speaker 2 (02:33:08):
I'm adding that was a movie. I'd say like that.

Speaker 6 (02:33:14):
I chose to give back the million dollars and live
off of that thirty thousand dollars for a little bit.

Speaker 1 (02:33:20):
And thirty thousand sounds like interest. Three thousand dollars was
because it was like you owed each party to pay
back the loan.

Speaker 6 (02:33:29):
It's like nine hundred and seventy thousand dollars of such
and such. So of the twelve million dollars that we
bought from Chris Blackwell, that's the loan that you're paying back.

Speaker 1 (02:33:37):
We're paying the loan back to Chris Blackwell. Right, So
that money, when we get it, we got ause that's
what we bought. That's an asset. That's an asset that's
giving us this million dollars again, right, So we're taking that,
you know, so even though we bought it, Yes, so
we have to pay that shit back.

Speaker 6 (02:33:53):
So we the family, the children, we keep our dad's
rights end up until since nineteen eighty one and it's
been us at the hound. So everything you see Bob
Marley has been us to children doing it. And big
up to my brother Ziggy Sidela, my big sister Sadela
from holding it down, you know, all these years, Ma

Marita like treating us all like her own children, like
even though we're not.

Speaker 1 (02:34:18):
She's not my biological mother, but I call that. No,
My mother's name is Janet the Hunter, a nice little
lady that make nice food, you.

Speaker 2 (02:34:28):
Know, so big up to Janet that nobody knows but
the place should have to cook because that was one
of the things is I feel like Bob Marley is
probably one of the most bootlegs person ever.

Speaker 1 (02:34:43):
Like everywhere you go you see a Bob Marley T shirt.

Speaker 2 (02:34:47):
You see.

Speaker 1 (02:34:48):
Man, are you telling me that for the most part,
the family gets the residual state estate?

Speaker 6 (02:34:57):
Is it you guys? Yeah, okay, we the children. If
I'm saying you trust that no longer exists. Remember we
the trust dissolved and they sold all their assets and
we had to buy it back. So we yeah, we
are in control. So the things that but obviously there's
still bodleg people out there. But the things that you see,

we have our family seal there and you can see
that so ours. So like for instance, Marley Coffee is
of family business. House Mary is a family business. De
Zion Roots is a family business. The Room Money Beach House.

Speaker 1 (02:35:29):
It's my thing. But I'm smart enough to make that.

Speaker 6 (02:35:33):
A family business, you dig, because you know, I'm nothing
without my family.

Speaker 3 (02:35:37):
So is that a dispersed thing to the family. What
is like business like the financials do you dis first?

Speaker 1 (02:35:44):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, because we're we're the directors of the company,
so you keep everybody included. Yeah, all the family members
are part of the business. But you said it's smart,
Like it's smart to keep everything in the family businesses,
you know.

Speaker 6 (02:35:55):
So things that you see, we we are the operators
of our family business, you know, and sister brother Ziggy
after big them up because they manage all these things.
And we work with c A you know that company.
They're they're pretty good at managing the I P. So
some of these new entities that we're creating, like you know,
Marty Coffee is one of them.

Speaker 2 (02:36:14):
So they managed that.

Speaker 1 (02:36:16):
Marley Coffee, that's my baby he's always going to hear
that ringing in your ears. Coffee I've been but this
is drink. Yeah, yeah, we drink coffee too. I'm gonna
send you my address.

Speaker 2 (02:36:26):
I got you.

Speaker 1 (02:36:27):
You You have coffee for the rest of your life,
both of you. Well, well, hold on. I'm gonna give
you coffee when I can the rest of our lives.
When I can, when I can, when I can. That's
the London that j'amaking right there. He can speak, he
can speak to you in London, London, man. Wow, yeah,

right right right in the corner, right right in the corner.
I remember coming and seeing you. How how was I
as a human being? Was that a nice guy?

Speaker 6 (02:37:18):
Because you know why, I have to live up to
this thing, man, And I'm telling you it's tougher than
you think.

Speaker 1 (02:37:24):
The thing you tell it's not a burden for my day.
It's my brothers and sisters.

Speaker 2 (02:37:27):

Speaker 1 (02:37:28):
That's what I told you about the burden. But it's them.

Speaker 6 (02:37:32):
It's like even playing football, I was like, I can't
see I can't let my brothers see me get knocked
on my back, Like.

Speaker 1 (02:37:39):
Like what the happen out there?

Speaker 2 (02:37:41):
Who that? Who's that guy?

Speaker 1 (02:37:42):
Like I can't. I gotta lie.

Speaker 6 (02:37:44):
I can't let them see me. They can't see me
weak and they can't see me. They can't see me defeated,
you dig. So that's like, that's who I have to be.
My standards are to my my brothers and sisters. Is like, yeah, Mama, rita,
like they hold it down, they hold the mantle. So
I got to like uphold that. Like I really like
when I when I do things in my mind, like Eve,

when you hear me drinking on your your damn drink.

Speaker 1 (02:38:08):
Champs, I'm gonna get in trouble later.

Speaker 2 (02:38:10):
My brother Ziggy just talking about, Yeah, you can't be
drinking Bloody Mary's in the morning. I'm like, there's a
morning drink, sir. So that was one of my last questions.
I don't know what I'm gonna spell. Great guy might
be the same question, how many times do you get
mistaken for your brothers?

Speaker 1 (02:38:32):

Speaker 6 (02:38:32):
Gosh, man, all the time, all my life. But it's
cool because it's what we are.

Speaker 2 (02:38:39):
When they come on to you like you want hey Marty's.

Speaker 1 (02:38:44):
Like, okay, when I did, I was doing this thing
for Marley Coffee.

Speaker 2 (02:38:50):

Speaker 6 (02:38:50):
So there's a line around. There's a line around the building, right.
I just remember hearing who's he again?

Speaker 2 (02:39:01):
Is that Ziggy?

Speaker 6 (02:39:03):
I just but I was like, you know, no, I'm Rohan.
I'm Marty coffee guy, the farmer. You don't have a
coffee story. But it's cool because that's just what it is,
you dig and like it's like even being in Paris, right,
and they were doing this red carpet thing for the
movie and walking sicks Siggy.

Speaker 1 (02:39:22):
I'm like, no, Ziggy's coming, man. I'm like, no, man,
he's coming, man, I'm going inside.

Speaker 6 (02:39:29):
Like so it's cool though, but I'm not Ziggy and Steven, Damion,
Julian and kim On and Robert. You know, I'm Rohan
someoneey let you know, no, I'm Roman or no Ziggas
soon come, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (02:39:41):
But it's nice. It's irin because we're all the same
people and you all look alike. Though it's just if
I was would be racist if I was white, but
I'm black. Can still be racist.

Speaker 1 (02:39:53):
You can still be racis looking like your father got
some great fun right now?

Speaker 2 (02:39:58):
Bro? Yeah, I do look in a great way. That's
that's greatness.

Speaker 1 (02:40:04):
It's true, the family of God, it's the energy.

Speaker 2 (02:40:09):
It's true.

Speaker 1 (02:40:11):
Because you know, we all think that we think alike.

Speaker 6 (02:40:15):
We're seven brothers, seven different minds, but our aim is
highly slessed at at first Rastafari and like you hear
my brothers, you talk about being good humans, you know,
so we all aspire to be good people, good humans,
and so we kind of judge each other.

Speaker 1 (02:40:32):
I don't.

Speaker 6 (02:40:32):
We don't judge like that, but we kind of rub
off on each other in a way where we act
like each other because we like how each other flex,
we like how each other do.

Speaker 1 (02:40:41):
So we like each other just because our were of life.

Speaker 6 (02:40:43):
And even though our big sisters like Cidella and Sharon,
we like them because they're great mothers and they're great teachers,
the great leaders, the great CEOs, they're great operators. So
we respect that, and we respect just nature. And we
know that in human nature it's kings and queens. So
we're of the kings and the women's of the queen.

So we honor the women as queen as they are,
and we walk as the kings.

Speaker 2 (02:41:08):
That we are. God, damn it, damn what make Let
me just say.

Speaker 1 (02:41:14):
We couldn't have ended the better way. Really really respect you,
your legacy, your family, everybody, everything that comes with it. Man.

Speaker 2 (02:41:28):
You know, we wanted to give you your flowers. You
deserve your flowers. You earned your flowers. You are your
own legend.

Speaker 1 (02:41:36):
And right, oh yeah, thank you, thank you thinking, and we.

Speaker 2 (02:41:41):
Wanted to share that in front of everybody, in front
of the public, because it's real. Ship man. Great, I'm
gonna go. I'm gonna go go hang out your hotel
and be honest.

Speaker 10 (02:41:51):
Can I smoke?

Speaker 1 (02:41:54):

Speaker 2 (02:41:54):
Not in the room weekends? You got balconies, right, pardon
motherfucker about.

Speaker 6 (02:42:01):
You know, tweets on and just like anywhere else, we're
responsible for our actions and we do as we see
fit as how we see life. So if we want
to burn, we know how to burn where we wanted burn.
And yeah, we respect them how to burn.

Speaker 7 (02:42:17):

Speaker 1 (02:42:18):
Yeah, I'll be seeing you in Hawaii. You you different
by the way. On my brother, I couldn't forget this, okay, Bro.

Speaker 6 (02:42:27):
I did bring two items from my brother, items that
I produce and create and it's my lion order and line.

Speaker 1 (02:42:35):
Order and hopefully these are so so this is inspired
by this change right here?

Speaker 2 (02:42:44):

Speaker 1 (02:42:44):
Absolutely, I decided to do things the right way. That's
a rock Crystal that we're using right there, and that
would look at finance finance.

Speaker 2 (02:42:53):
Yeah, so this.

Speaker 1 (02:42:55):
Yeah, so this is line order stuff, you know what
I mean, movement, line order, and we believe in good
quality things.

Speaker 6 (02:43:01):
Here, I got them monder the trade, which is made
from not ceramic but personally, and I believe.

Speaker 1 (02:43:06):
In good quality things.

Speaker 6 (02:43:07):
So I got a lot of class the classes first, yo, Yeah,
because why not. We're kings, you know, so we deserve
to live as kings and be as clean as possible
and try to do the things in the right way.
So we want to live as kings as we are.
And that's why always say lion order non denomination because
Rastafarai is truly that because the Russ means head and

the tar fire eye means the creature of the one being.
So we're in charge of self. And that's what we
know from the lion. The lion is always a lion.
Every single day it wakes up, a lion, goes to
sleep a lion. It's never not a lion. So we
represent the lion order movement. So that's line order and
my brother.

Speaker 2 (02:43:51):
Let's let's do it.

Speaker 3 (02:43:55):
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Speaker 1 (02:44:03):
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