October 27, 2024 • 51 mins
Sometimes, even when your situation isn’t getting better, you are. Stop stressing like you need to do it alone and remember that God is with you in it. He’s already given you what you need — and He’ll help you work it in to what you’re facing.
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Philippians 2, verses 12-13
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey, this is Stephen Ferdick. I'm the pastor of Elevation
Church and this is our podcast. I wanted to thank
you for joining us today.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Hope this inspires you.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Hope it builds your faith. Hope it gives your perspective
to see God is moving in your life. Enjoy the message.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Today. I have a word from the Lord for somebody.
I said today, I have a work.
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Remember a way, he said, external processing. When the Lord
has a gift for you, get excited, remain standing for
just a moment. I only have two verses this week.
I was meditating on where to go after we talked
last week about God can use this too, and this
is a little bit of a sequel to that message.
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But you know, I love to preach Bible stories and
kind of use the different elements to use different things.
But sometimes I feel like it's good to just come
to something that's a simple instruction in the Word of God,
and hopefully this will help us to apply what God
has planted in our hearts. We're going to go to
Philippians chapter two, Versus twelve and thirteen for a moment.
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I'm preaching from my daughter's Bible today, so you will
notice an extra anointing, gentleness, vivaciousness. I've given all three
of my kid's bibles that from I preached five years
from the Bible. Than give it to a kid, give
it to another. And so we'll see if Abby's is
more annointed than Elijah's and Graham's. Today I cycle through them,
see which one of them has been praying for me
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the most. All right, listen to this verse. Just because
I said it shorter, just because I said it simple,
don't disengage your brain, because I really want you to
pay attention to what the Lord is saying here through.
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The Apostle Paul, the Apostle Paul in this Epistle to
the Church at Philippi. Through the Apostle Paul in this
Epistle to the Church at Philippi, the Word.
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Of the Lord says, Therefore, my dear friends, as you
have always obeyed, not only in my presence, but now
much more in my absence, continue to work out your
salvation with fear and trembling Verse thirteen. For it is
God who works in you to will and to act
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in order to fulfill his good purpose. Now that's all
the verses I want to read today. But I want
to give you my sermon title. It's a common saying,
so I'll say it and then you fill in the
blank when I stop and point out you ready, you
could play along online too the title of this message.
And after I say the title, I'll read the scripture
again for you, just so we can get it down deep.
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God will work it.
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Right. I set you up, though, because that is amazing.
God will work it out. It's something that everybody wants
to believe about the situation they're facing, whether it's a
custody battle, or whether it's a medical situation, or whether
it's a relational tension. But the message God gave me
today is just one word different. I'm going to just
change one word and I'm not changing the word God.
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And I'm not going to change the word will. I'm
not going to say he might, he could, he can,
But instead of God will work it out, I want
to preach on God will work it in. God will
work it in. And I'll read the verses again and
you'll see where I'm coming from. This is not just wordplay.
I don't just think of a clever thing that I
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can call a sermon that sounds good. So you could
just feel good for a minute. The text says in
Philippians chapter two, verse twelve. Therefore, my dear friends, as
you have always obeyed, not only in my presence, but
now much more in my absence, continue to work out
your salvation with fear and trembling.
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For it is God who works in you.
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To will and to act in order to fulfill his
good purpose. So now as you take your seat prayerfully,
reach around and tell seven people. God will work it in.
God will work it in. Six more, tell them God
will work it in. Put it in the chat. God
will work it in. God will work it in. Praise
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the Lord for what he's working out. Praise the Lord
for what he's working in. And I'll make that make
sense if I do my job. I'm gonna have fun
preaching this today. I already decided. I was thinking today,
like when you were eating that tomato soup. Holly was
eating this tomato soup she made for herself. None of
us like tomato soup, but her. She just made it
for her and she was having so much fun eating
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that tomato soup. I was like, what else is in there?
She's like, no, I'm just excited. I've been growing tomatoes,
and I finally used my tomatoes in the soup. That's
how I feel about my sermons when I get to
eat it with you. And I hope you like tomatoes too. Tomato, Tomato,
Here we go. In Philippians chapter two, verse twelve and thirteen,
the apostle Paul is writing an epistle to the church
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in PHILIPI, and both of those are miracles. Both of
those are miracles. The fact that Paul is an apostle
is miracle number one. Paul the Artist formerly known as
Saul of Tarsus, When the Lord wanted to reach the Gentiles,
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he found somebody who was persecuting the church, And now
the persecutor of the church is now one of the
lead preachers in the church. You never know how God
is working in somebody's life. Don't write people off, don't
count people out, don't slap a label on them, because
this is the way they always are. Well, the way
God always is means more than the way they always are,
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least of all yourself. Don't ever underestimate how God can
work in somebody's life. Thing about that He took him
from the persecutor of the church to a preacher, and
I guess he needed someone who understood the system from
the inside in order to overturn it. That's why God
will often call you into something that you struggle with,
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because the thing that you struggle with, the mother is
the thing you're most qualified to help somebody else step through.
So when the Lord needed to reach the gentiles, he said,
I can't call Peter for this, I better call Saul
and change his name to Paul with a P. So
it's a miracle that he's an apostle. His whole title apostle,
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the apostle Paul. He had been something completely different and
God changed him. And that's one reason that we were
praising him today while we were singing in church. I
wish you could have heard the worship. You're watching this
online later, and I wish you could have been in
here with us because we were praising him because he
didn't leave us like we were. And that just causes
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something to explode inside of you when you realize that
he takes persecutors and turns them into preachers. But the
second miracle I mentioned that there were two in the
text is not implicit, So you got to go beneath
the surface to get this one. Is that he is
writing the letter the epistle, which somebody is that like
an apostle's wife. No epistle just means letter, it's just
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addressed up. It's a letter that ended up being in
the Bible. It was written to a specific audience, the
church at Philippi. It was not written from where it
was written to. And it's a miracle that this scripture
exists because of the conditions Paul wrote it in, not
a writer's cottage by the sea, not a retreat situation
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in the mountains, but rather he wrote this from prison.
I wanted to point that out to you because sometimes
you get more focused on where you are than what
God has called you to do and be, and you
start acting like your environment rather than changing it. This
feels like this could have been a Rhythm Night sermon
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on Wednesday. You know, walk into school and start talking
like a foolish You know you're actually a great, faithful
child of God. But you know, you get in an
environment and you start changing. But Paul would get in
an environment and change it, and that's what made him different.
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And he was also a great multitasker.
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Y'all say that men can't multitask ah I beg to
differ the apostle. Paul, while serving a prison sentence, is
writing sentences that we now call scriptures. I told you
this is a good tomato suit. I grew these tomatoes myself.
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And the beautiful thing.
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About this miracle is that you may not be an apostle,
and you might not write an epistol. But let me
break it right down to where you live. Is that
any situation in your life that isn't getting better? And
now I want you to think of that situation right now,
any situation in your life that isn't getting better, You
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can do what Paul did, and you can get busy
while you wait on it to get better. So while
while you're waiting for it to change, change, while you're
waiting for a better opportunity. Obey, y'all don't like this message.
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Y'all don't like tomatoes. The Bible says that Paul was
a great man of faith, But yet his faith did
not keep a snake from biding him last week, did it?
But his faith enabled him to shake the snake off
of his hand and use the incident touch somebody, say
use it, use it, use it. Everything that happens in
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your life good or bad. Use it. You know. Sometimes
I will feel like the moment that God is working
with me on a specific area, that area will be attacked.
And I used to think that meant that God wasn't
really working there. But if you read the scripture, it's
very interesting how it's worded, isn't it. Paul writes to
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the church and says verse twelve, my dear friends, as
you have always obeyed, And then this scripture definitely is
not about me always obeyed. No, no, no. But I
think he's like, I think this is some kind of
reverse psychology Paul is putting on him.
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He's like, as.
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Because they're fighting and they're arguing. And later in the
Book of Philippians he name checks two women and tells him,
y'all stop fighting. And that's that's in chapter four. I'm
not going to preach that this week. But he says,
if you were able to obey not only in my
presence watch this, but now much more in my absence.
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So now think about the sadness of Paul. The apostle
is in prison, he's in a shipwreck. He gets on
another boat. Three months later, he goes to Rome. He's
under house arrest, for two years, and he writes four
epistles Ephesians, Colossians, Philippians, and Filemen. The prison epistles. They
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called him that, but they were written in prison, but
we quote them in church. So where you are right now,
help me. Holy spirit has tremendous potential. Even your darkness
has tremendous potential to be harvested to bring somebody else's light.
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For the Bible says that God, who caused his light
to shine out of darkness, gives his Holy Spirit into
our hearts, and we have this treasure in earth and vessels,
that the excellency.
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Of the power might be of God and not of us.
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He's your neighbors say, it's God doing it.
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It's God doing it.
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It wasn't God throwing Paul in the cell, but it
was God on the inside of Paul that caused him
to pick up a pen while he was in there.
And because he picked up a pin while he was
in there, you and I are shouting over stuff, he
said today. Somebody else needs to be shouting in five
years because.
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You didn't give up.
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Somebody else needs to be praising God in ten years
because you.
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Stayed the course.
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Because what you need to keep going is in you, baby,
say it by faith.
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It is in me.
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He said, you have an opportunity now, and listen. The
opportunity is this, Paul says, absence is an opportunity for application. Absence, Well,
are You're just not gonna write down anything? That's the
best thing I am gonna say all day. Absence is
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an opportunity for application. One of our staff members, Decks,
sent me a stack of different things she had written
down from the sermons that I preached, and she said,
I just want you to see that we hear you.
And in the notes that she put she would work
through the word that she heard. Now, I'm just asking,
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and I'm not gonna ask you to raise your hand.
Do you work through the word that you've heard? Word?
Or does it go in one ear and out in
the parking lot when you get stuck in traffic and
you start lifting up your hands, but only one finger
on the hand because that single finger praise No. But seriously,
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I'm using it as a joke because I don't want
it to feel condemning, because that's not really my style,
because I don't really have room to do that, because
how many words has God given me? That I did
not work through. And I don't mean that you have
to take notes to be saved. God knows he's not
going to check your highlight highlight or colors. When you
get to heaven only pink, you're going to pink only heaven.
Oh pink, green, yellow, red, Yeah, you're going to multicolor heaven.
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But the process by which you mix the word with
faith is when you take what I say and ask God,
what are you saying to me about my situation through
what he said? And that's the process where you filter,
and that's the process where your faith is strengthened. And
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so I used to go to a therapy session where
I would work on an issue in my life, and
after the therapy session, I would have just like a
major I don't want to call it a relapse, but
just in whatever area. And I don't mean drugs or
alcohol in these cases, but just like whatever I just
talked through would be very challenged in my life in
the next twenty four hours. So I brought that to
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the therapist. I'm like, I might have to fire you
because every time we get off the phone, my life
gets worse. Therapist said, So you can get better because
sometimes when it isn't getting better, you are you are.
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You don't get patience by praying for it. You get
patience by being annoyed.
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Yeah, no idea. There are people who are helping you
get patient that you are complaining about, and you need
to be paying them. They are your personal trainers for patients.
And I'm not saying we want it, but I'm just
saying God can use that too. And while you're waiting
on God to work some things out, whatever that area is.
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Because if you need a breakthrough in your business, I
believe with you for a breakthrough in your business. If
you believe for a breakthrough in your marriage, I believe
for a breakthrough in your marriage. If you are believing
for a husband or a wife to come into your
life because you don't want to be alone, I believe
with you and stand with you for that. But just
know that some people are praying for a breakthrough in
the marriage that they prayed for yesterday that is struggling
now because they believe the lie that the situation would
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fix them. So when we say God will work it in,
I'm not just trying to be clever. I thought about
how we're wanting God to affect situation, and that's great.
But Paul said, my absence in this prison is actually
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a gift for you in Philippi because when you're hearing
the word or when you're learning something, you know you're
getting it at a mental level, Okay, And that's wonderful.
Instruction is wonderful. Instruction is wonderful. There's a man in
the church right now who taught me a lot about tennis,
a great tennis pro out here. That's wonderful. But the
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thing about instruction is it is limited until you have
an opportunity for big word integration.
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And integration happens when what you.
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Were taught is challenged or tested and you have to
remember under pressure what you learned in peace. So be
careful coming to church because in this peaceful environment God
is going to prove after the peaceful. For Paul, he
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provided a prison where he wrote four epistles for the
church at Philippi.
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He did not leave.
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Paul's physical presence with them, but he gave his presence
within them, so that when Paul's presence was taken away
from them, his presence within them intensified. What I'm trying
to say is anything in your life that goes away
and you think you need it. God is going to
release something greater in your life that you didn't even
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know you had until you got in this situation where
you needed it. So eventually Paul says, give me the
first verse again. He says, continue in it. Touch your
neighbor and say keep going, continue to work out. Now
that's not a literal workout thing, y'all. I remember the
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first time that somebody called me, and I guess it
was like to my ego or whatever. They were like,
uh so, as a lifter, what are your splits? I thought,
in case you need me to interpret it. As a weightlifter,
what body parts do you work out on which day?
Nobody ever asked me that before, and I figured, oh,
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I must be giving evidence that what I've been doing
is actually improving my physical frame to the point where
I'm a lifter. Yah.
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How good that felt to be called a lifter.
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Now.
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I lifted a lot, but I've never been called a lifter.
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I was walking around the house. I didn't tell anybody,
but I was looking at the kids. They were like, Daddy,
I'm like lifter. You could call me lift or mister lifter.
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I was so proud for three days because what I did.
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Was integrated in my life in such a way. If
you would look at your neighbor and say, as a praiser,
when do you praise God? Ask him one of your splits.
Tell them, well, I praise when I feel it. I
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praise when I don't. I praise on the mountain, I
praise in the valley. I praise when I'm sure y'all
gonna catch on in twelve seconds. I praise when I'm doubting.
I praise when I've got it. I praise when it's gone.
I praise when I feel it. I praise when I
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faith it. I'm not faking it. I'm faith in it
because if I faith it.
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It will form me. So let's break it down.
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The absence is an opportunity for application. Like when I
used to work out, I needed somebody to be there
to make me work out, and I found out that
they were really good partners when I heard their voice
even when they weren't there. What I love about God
and a good good instructor is not satisfied simply with
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your assimilation of information. But a good instructor will sometimes
create absence and life will you're in the season right now,
and the Lord was speaking to me about it. I
don't know who is for. I don't even know who
is for. You know if it's for you. You're in
a season right now where it is very important that
you integrate what God has given you. And it is
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feeling intense right now because of the absence of something
that you think you need to have. Paul said, in
my absence, much more than my presence, you got to
remember what you know about God in the absence of joy.
You've got to remember how to rejoice in the absence
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of harmony. You have to remember to be a peacemaker
in the absence of money. You got to stay creative.
So God will some times take resources away from you
to remind you of something that you're not using. One
of the worst things God can give some people is
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too much money, because they will start stuffing themselves with
stuff and forget the substance of who they were that
led them to the point that they had the wealth
to begin with. That's why the Word says, when you
have become great, do not forget the Lord your God,
for it is he that gives you the power to
get wealth. And I think that as much as God's
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presence provides comfort, absence creates opportunity. I want to really
get this home to you. Okay, so just bear with
me for a minute, then put another tomato in this soup.
We had a great conversation, me and Elijah, my oldest,
and I'm working all my kids into the illustration today. Okay, Okay,
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So I'm just working my kids in because they're expensive.
Get the most out of this relationship. When he left
for college, enough for a couple of years after Buck
and Chunks stopped coming over to help me work out.
He was my workout partner. When he left for college,
he went three hours away. I was so depressed. I
would still go lift weights, but I wouldn't even put
my shoes on or turn the lights on. And I
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wouldn't even turn Metallica on. I mean Maverick City, Kurt
Franklin on forgot where I was for a minute. I
sit out there in the silence, just cranking out the reps.
And I would sometimes just send him just to make
him feel bad about leaving me, send him a picture
of me sitting there in the dark. That's hard without
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your partner. Then I felt better because about a month
or two after he'd been gone. We were having this
deep conversation one night and he opened up to me.
He's like, college is great, but it's hard. I'm grateful
to be here, but it's hard, he said. And it's
hard because I have to be both of us here.
I have to be both of us. I'm so used
to having you say you know, son, and sometimes you
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got on my nerves. But I needed that. I needed
you to get on my nurse. Y'all. I've had a
grammy of New York Times, all that stuff. I felt
like I got the greatest reward of my life when
he said this. He said, now I have to be
both of us because it let me know we've gone
from instruction to integration. And then let me know my
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voice is still speaking, and let me know that I'm
still talking three hours away. I'm still talking to you
three hours away. And Paul wanted the church at Philip
Fi to know I'm still talking to you even though
I'm in this prison cell. God wants you to know
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I'm still talking to you even though you lost your
mother last year. And God wants you to know I'm
still talking to you even though you don't know how
you're going to make payroll next month. And God wants
you to know I'm still talking to you. Even though
you haven't felt goosebumps in a while, and while everybody
else seems to be rejoicing, you feel kind of empty.
God says, this is not absence, it's integration, because.
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My sheep know my voice.
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And the most powerful moment of your life to work
a word from God is not just when you're putting
it in a journal to write it down, but when
you are putting it into practice, to live it out.
This is a practice season for you, this absence that
you feel, this thing that has changed. And I wish
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I could sit down and get to know your conversation,
your exact situation, so we could have an exact conversation.
But Paul wrote one letter to the whole church, and
he said, it's good that I'm gone. That's what Jesus
said to the disciples. If I leave you, I'll send
you the Holy Spirit. I can send you something greater
than just my words. I can give you my spirit,
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greater integration. God is doing something greater in your life.
So something goes away, something greater come. This is the
rhythm of God. Give him praise. Come on, giveing praise,
not PGA praise, give him a God praise, big God,
big praise. Okay, Okay, God.
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Will work it in. So I want to study. I
want to study this a little bit more.
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And I'm relatively about halfway through my message right now,
and we will see if I get to continue it
all the way. I got some other parts that I
want to put but I don't know if they But anyway,
therefore my difference, as you have always obeyed, not only
in my presence, but now much more in my I
can't get off of this. God said, the absence of
what you think you need in this season is an
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opportunity for.
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You to get a tuned to what you really have.
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The best thing that happened to me to be able
to effectively minister to you was when we couldn't have
people in church in twenty twenty. Because it taught me
not to need your energy to be effective to minister
God's word. And when I couldn't ride on the waves
your energy, I had to let God make a wave
inside of me with this word. So I came out
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of it never more alive and in love with the
word of God. Because of something that was taken away.
Now I'm not using this to talk about me or
tomato soup or weight lifting, although I am proud to
be a lifter. But but I want you to see
that the absence creates an opportunity for application. And this
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was weird. I don't know if you thought it was
weird when I read it. He said, work out verse
twelve again, please on the screen, work out your salvation
with fear and trembling. So I thought that might mean
when we give the invitation every week for you to
get saved, raise your hand just in case, you know,
Like I don't know. I thought I did this when
I was eight, but I'm scared and i'm trembling that
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maybe what I did last week canceled it out. So
just in case, Lord, I'll put my hand up right there. Yeah,
you give me another one of those Bibles. I hadn't
read any of them. I got seven of them stacked
up at home, but yeah, give me another one. And
then I realized what he didn't say. Now watch this.
He didn't say work for your salvation. Put it back up.
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He said work out your salvation. He's not saying earn it.
That's contrary to everything else that God gave Paul to
teach us. That's contrary to the very essence of the
Cross of Christ. How are you going to earn a
grace that was given from across You didn't die on
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So what he's saying is not only to integrate what
you've been taught, what you've been instructed, and apply it.
Like Van Saevner said, never forget in the darkness what
God showed you in the light. He's saying, the reason
that you're so worried now, fear and trembling is a
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saying that they had, Like I don't know, we might
say lock stock and barrel means everything you know. They
would say fear and trembling like a saying. It was
a colloquialism. He says, work out your salvation with fear
and trembling. He does not mean be afraid that God
didn't give you what he promised to give you. He said,
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you're forgiven. You're forgiven. He said, there's no condemnation. There's
no condemnation. It is being afraid to live your life
without the awareness of that. Because you know that if
you ever lose awareness of who God is to you
and in you, you will make the stupidest mistakes. So
I want you to work out. You're about to see
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it what God has already worked in. And God is
working on you, and you are a work in progress.
But your salvation is not. It's finished, so there's nothing
more to be done. That's why Jesus said it is finished.
God already worked that out.
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If you placed your faith in him, you are all right.
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He's saved. Now you are taking what God gave you
and working it out. And that's what I told Elijah.
I said, this is your season to grow. Every conversation
we've had down here lifting weights together, every time I've
ever corrected you that you wanted to kill me, but
you knew I would kill you if you tried to
kill me, every single one of those things. Now that
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we're not together, now that it's not like it was,
it gets to go deeper inside of you. God is
taking you deeper in this season. He did not depart
from you. He's taking you deeper. But the reason you
keep worrying about stuff that God has already worked out.
I got to say that better. You are worried about
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something God has already worked out.
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Now, why do you do that.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Because you stop at verse twelve and never reverse thirteen.
You know, I mean people would take verse twelve and
stop right there again. Please, therefore, since you were obeying
when I was there, you know, keep that same energy,
Paul is saying. When I was preaching, y'all were saying, Amen,
Now keep that same touch. Your neighbors say, keep that
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same energy a couple tuesdays from now, no matter who
wins the election, no matter who's acting crazy, keep that
same energy because we had Republicans, Democrats, black, white, Hispanic, male, female,
all in the same church, and we were all unified.
And we will not let a culture that divides us
speak greater than a.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
King that defines us.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Y'all, keep that same energy out there in the world,
all right over the next two weeks. Don't you get
Facebook crazy and be church saying. I don't know where
that came from. They just came to me. I decided
to work it in, work it in, work it in.
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Work I don't know where that came from. I just
decided to work it in. I don't know where this
snake came from. I just decided to shake it off
and work it in.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
I don't know where that feeling came from. I just
decided to work it in. I don't know where that
temptation came from. I just decided to pray extra this.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Week because if I'm gonna get extra temptation, I'm gonna
need extra grace. So I'm gonna pray extra prayers.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
I'm gonna work this in. I like it.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
I like it so so the reason you're worrying about
stuff God has already worked out. The reason you keep
worrying is because of the way you keep thinking verse twelve.
It is God that works in you. Uh No, not
only my presence, now, I was from I just continue
to work out your salvage my fear and tremble. And
you're like, okay, okay, no, go back, go back to
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verse twelve. You stopped there. Church. That's a comma.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
I feel like I'm a multitasking preacher.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
I talk about fitness, English grammar, theology, parenting recipes, tomatoes,
work it all in, work out your salvation with fear
and trembling. Now, if you read that, you will be
worried because you are trying to work out something without God. Okay.
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What gets me tripped up every time that I get overwhelmed.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
And I'm not.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Talking about just having butterflies or getting nervous. I think
all that is good, but when I get overwhelmed to
the point where it really shuts me down. You know how,
there's that line between when you're working on something and
it's wearing you out, and you realize, huh, this feels
kind of cyclical because it's making me sick. If that's
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where you are in the field, and read what comes
after the comma work out yourself with fear and trembling,
For it is God who works in you. So that's
a very interesting thought, isn't it. It is God who
works in you. Don't forget that while you work it out.
Don't forget that. So don't get so good at trying
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to figure stuff out on paper that you forget to
work stuff out according to purpose, because the Bible said
it is God that works in you, too, willing to
do according to his good purpose. So God starts with
the purpose, not the person, and then he finds the
person that will accomplish that purpose, and he shapes the
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person that will accomplish that purpose. And that's why you
can know God is working on you right now and
working in you, and so when you sit down, I
will never forget sitting down to work on something one time,
and I'll tell you exactly what it was, because I
think it's a great illustration. I had the opportunity several
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years ago to interview Bishop ts right here on this
stage at Elevation Church, and I was so honored to
do it. He is my preaching hero, and he's my
friend now too. But you know, if someone is your hero,
even if they're your friend, you still get really nervous,
even if it's not their fault. I was so nervous
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to interview that man because I wanted to do a
good job for it. I wanted to do a good job.
He was promoting a book called Sore Soar, not like
lift or sore like sore like an eagle anyway, And
I sat down for weeks beforehand and I would work,
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but mostly I would worry. It wasn't like I was
getting anything done by the time I got done, just
being a complete stress ball for several weeks. I think
I counted seventy five note cards of questions to ask
the man.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
About the book, And everybody.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Would say, aren't you excited to interview Bishop Jake's and
I'd be like, yeah, excitement and anxiety can kind of
feel the same sometimes, and what you call it depends
on what you're focused about. And when I look back
on it, I regret all of the stress that I
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felt from the pressure that wasn't even real. The fact
of the matter is he could have had anybody interview
him for the book. He wanted me to do it.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
He could have gone anywhere he wanted.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
He didn't go to Oprah, he came to Ferdick, he
didn't come to doctor Phil. He came to doctor Ferdi.
But I couldn't feel that way about it, because.
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I'd be like, what do you am? I gonna ask him?
He's so smart.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
The very reason I was stressed was the very reason
I should have relaxed.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Not five minutes after.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
We got on this stage, and he sat in his
chair and I sat in mind, and I had my
whole stack right, and I said my first question to him.
Twenty minutes later, I still had seventy four questions left
and the interview is only ninety minutes. And I remember,
in that moment, Oh, it's bishop. He's good at talking. Oh,
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all this time I've been thinking about this like I
gotta carry it? And what am I gonna do if
my questions are stupid? And what if the people look
at me funny? And what if I mispronounced the word?
And what if he doesn't sell any books? And what
if he never wants to talk to me again? And
what if I accidentally say something that wasn't intended to
be offended? But I was just trying to be casual
when it came across a disrespectful.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
And all of this.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
To interview one of the greatest talkers in the world.
The only thing I had to do to be successful
in the interview was this, you know, just a reverse
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nod for variety and effect, but between those two nods.
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And he had it covered. I see it stressing.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
About something in your life today. Don't know what it is,
don't need to God knows. I see you playing out
the situation over and over again.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
You call it preparation, but it's not preparation because it
is eating through your peace. And here you are.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Thinking, well, and I get to that in three weeks.
It's gonna be terrible. Oh when my kids become teenagers.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
They are yet toddlers. You got twelve years.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
To read books about this crap you're gonna be dealing with,
and by then all the books will be saying different
stuff than they say today. I see you looking at
a situation in the future of your life, and you
are afraid. And I'll tell you why you are afraid.
You forgot God is going to be there when you
get there. I remember, Oh, Bishop's gonna be there.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
He's a good talker. I wish you would remember.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
With all the scenarios you're playing out in your mind,
and all the ways it could go wrong, and all
of the stuff that you're scrolling through starting to talk
about is it another world war?
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Well, what you're gonna do about it? If it is,
you're gonna go fight it. In whatever happens, you're.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
Gonna have God. You're gonna have God.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
If it's a prison, he'll be your cell mate.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
You're gonna have God.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Oh yeah, I forgot. Tell your neighbor, I forgot. I'm
gonna have God in it with me. That's why I'm.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Not stressed about retirement, because I've never.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Seen the righteous forsaken. I was young and now I'm old.
I'd never seen the righteous forsaken.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Nor is see begging for bread God is gonna be
in this with me. God is going to be in
the challenge with me. God is going to be in
the uncertainty. God's gonna walk in that doctor's office with me.
God's gonna be on the other side of this pain
will break up with me. God's gonna be with me
when I make my first appointment with the counselor. God's
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gonna be with me when I show up back first
day to school and I'm twenty seven. God's gonna be
with me when I open up my finances and begin
to get it in order and humble myself.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
I forgot about God. That's why I was shaken. That's
why I was trembling. But I'm not trembling anymore because I'm.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
Trusting that when I get there. Oh yeah, thank you Jesus.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
Yeah, I'll get a bay a bracelet fell off. But
let me work it in real quick. Let me work
it in real quick. There's some stuff that needs to
come off of you in this season. It happens, so
I might as well work it in. It happens, so
I might as well work it in. There are some
things in.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Your life that you need to stop stressing about.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
At a level that assumes that you're going to have
to do it alone. I never get stressed about a
sermon if I remember, oh, yeah, God's going to be there,
and just like bishops is pretty good at talking, God's
pretty good at godding.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
How about that. I'm so tired to hear people say
in life be life and God be godding.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
Don't quote me on that. That's so corny. But I
think sometimes we take the journey in our mind as
if God's not going to be there. That was so
profound for me when I realized it. It's like, have
you ever been going in a situation and you are
so stressed and then you remembered, oh yeah, they're going
to be there and the person that you thought of. Now,
there are some times where you're going into a situation
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and you remember they are going to be there, and boy,
then you really are reaching for the prescription pills because well,
but uh, there's other people like I know, for Holly,
when Amy is going to be there when you're preaching
or recording, there's certain things you don't have to worry about.
And she's going over to get ready and I can
see she's stressed. She's like I'm good Amy's gonna be there,
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and she just realizes there's things that I don't even
have to think about because she's good at we've been
together so long. She's gonna take care of some stuff
so I can just focus on what I need to do.
I hear the Lord saying, I'm going to be there
even if Paul can't, even if nobody else does, even
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if you've never been there before. I only needed three
note cards and two nods, and that, just like the devil.
Joyce Smeier said, worry is down payment on the problem
you may never even have. And I'd just like the
devil charging you for stuff that you don't even need,
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that you didn't even order. So he said, work this
thing out, but you gonna need seventy five note cards.
Just make sure the mic is on nod your head.
I think, as simple as this sounds, sometimes to just
assume that God is going to be there, we should
just sit in it for a minute. What would it
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change about the situation that you're afraid of facing if
you knew God was going to be there. One time,
when they got so big on cancel culture, I thought, well,
what did they just cancel me? And then God said, how
many people were you preaching to when I called you?
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And the answer was five. And the Lord said, well,
surely you can find at least five that'll come listen
to if they can swer the whole earth. You can
find five. You can find five. And the fact is
that whatever happens in your life, before it even happens
to you, God already has a way to work it in. Now.
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I didn't make this bracelet fall off, It just happened.
I worked it in. I worked it in. Remember when
we were at Elevation Nights in Oakland. Now the reason
they're laughing when I said Oakland, they're not like West
Coast present prejudice or anything like that. I don't want
you to think when we got to Oakland for Elevation Knights.
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This is twenty twenty two. I will never forget this night. Now,
when you preach at Elevation Knights, we're going into these
big arenas like basketball arenas and stuff, right, and they're
always telling me this is the NBA team that plays here.
I don't care about basketball. I don't care about any
of that. I just care about serving him.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
No, Actually, i'm looking what bands came here?
Speaker 1 (43:57):
Oh, the Rolling Stones were here. That's cool to me.
I don't care if played basketball here. But when we
were in Oakland, I don't know what made me wear
that big heavy jacket that night. I remember wearing this
big heavy jacket. I'm up preaching and there's a lot
of distractions because it's not like a church service where
y'all are so attentive even watching online right now. You
just at Elevation nights, it's like a concert and then
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a sermon. And some of the people that got there,
they got totally like bait and switched. They had no
idea they were gonna have to sit through a sermon.
They thought it was just music. So I am like
a total buzzkill for the whole room. But in Oakland
it was going pretty good. And you know, you have
to work around the distractions. This guy's over here eating
popcorn and chicken fingers? Did she get did she have
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a beer? Hovering? And trust in God, you know, uses
all kinds of things going through your mind, just all
the distraction stuff, and you have to learn just to
kind of like work around it, right, But a couple
times on these nights, something happens that you can't work
around and in Oakland, something happened. I was in the
middle of my sermon. I was preaching on Acts, Chapter three,
verses one through ten. The message was called Surprise, and
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I was talking about Peter and John at the gate
called beautiful, and the man showed up and he wasn't
expecting to get healed, and they weren't expecting to be healers,
but surprise. Right when I'm reving up, you know, I've
gotten my background cover. All the lights in the whole
arena go out, not gradually, not dimmed out, and so
I'm thinking, oh, that's weird. They'll come back on in
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a minute.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
Six minutes and forty five seconds.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
No, I'm not exaggerating six It felt like six years.
It felt like six years because all the lights go out.
And the first thing I think the whole audience thought was, oh,
this is a part of his sermon. And so I
tell them real quickly. I'm like, this is not a
part of my sermon. And I'm standing up there. You know,
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ten seconds goes by, twenty seconds goes by. I'm a
professional man. I've been doing this since I was sixty.
I've been doing this since I was in Monks corner,
South Carolina. I can do this. I can hold this
crowd for a minute. I can preach through this. But
then it's thirty seconds, it's a minute, and you kind
of run out of steam to stall, you know how
about those lights? And then it hit me, you don't
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know how long it's going to take for them to
work this out, so work it in.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
I'm telling you, I'm telling you the truth.
Speaker 1 (46:32):
With the lights off, I started preaching about when you're
in a dark season. I started preaching about how Peter
and John weren't always at the gate called beautiful, but
they had once been in a garden called Getsemone, where
the savior of the world was facing the darkness of
our sin. And what do you do when you're in
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the darkness of the garden of Gethsemone and the lights
are out all around you and you are uncertainty because
I don't know how long it's going to take them
to put the lights back on.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
So while I'm waiting for them.
Speaker 5 (47:08):
To work it out, I'm trying.
Speaker 1 (47:13):
To close this message, I really am. But there is
somebody listening to me who's waiting for God to work
it out, and God is saying back while you're waiting
in this dark season for me to work it out,
for me to show you the next step, for me
to give you the next crumb, for me to give
you the next notice, for me to give you the
next relationship, for me to turn this thing around, for
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the report to be positive.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
While you're waiting for me to work it out. Work
it in, work it in, work it in.
Speaker 1 (47:44):
I hear God saying, work it in, for it is
God that works in you. It is God that works
in you. And show them the video. About five minutes
in the people did something. The people had their phones.
Speaker 2 (47:58):
Out, which you could put me down in the pit. Yeah,
you could take me out.
Speaker 4 (48:03):
I didn't tell him to me.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
He thought they just did it. He thought he could
pete me here with six thousand six.
Speaker 4 (48:11):
Uh huh sup surprise surprise, Yeah, breaks verdict.
Speaker 6 (48:21):
No course, get your likes out. Give him a seal
of praise, I said, give him a shout of praise.
Speaker 4 (48:38):
Are you a praiser?
Speaker 2 (48:41):
Are you a lift?
Speaker 6 (48:46):
I think it's great because maybe that's the message God
want me.
Speaker 1 (48:50):
Maybe that's the message God wanted me to breach you.
Speaker 6 (48:54):
Look at all those lights, look at all that evidence,
Look all that phrase, hollylo out.
Speaker 5 (49:05):
Look at all of that strength, Look at all of
that glory.
Speaker 4 (49:11):
From something we didn't sick coming surprise. It's not the
lie ordered, but it's what gone ordered. Done is suffering.
God ordered my steps.
Speaker 2 (49:26):
God is in this with me.
Speaker 4 (49:29):
Get your light out, get your light out, Get your
light out.
Speaker 1 (49:38):
You had that light in your pocket the whole time,
but you didn't need to work that light out until
the light was absent. The absence became the opportunity for
the illustration.
Speaker 2 (49:55):
Because while I'm.
Speaker 1 (49:56):
Waiting for God to work this out, might as well
work it in. God, what do you want to teach
me through this? God? How do you want to prepare
me for this? I was complaining about something that wasn't
succeeding in this season of my life lately, and God said, exactly,
because you got cocky about what you could do, and
I needed to teach you to pay attention. So I
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took your success away for a minute so you would
pay attention to the source of your strength. Jesus, I
didn't even plan for us to do this altogether. We
didn't work any of that out, but we worked it in.
I'm gonna give you twenty four seconds come on, turn
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the lights back on.
Speaker 2 (50:40):
It feels kind of dangerous. I'm gonna give you twenty four.
Speaker 1 (50:43):
Seconds to give God the greatest praise.
Speaker 4 (50:46):
You gave him, because he gave me one more day.
Speaker 5 (50:53):
Nineteen seconds, Hey, key seconds, except you're running out of time.
You're running out of time and that and midnight pull
in silas, don't.
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Know what to do?
Speaker 1 (51:08):
Do it?
Speaker 4 (51:09):
Didn Hey seven six fut.
Speaker 1 (51:22):
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God bless you.
Hey, this is Stephen Ferdick. I'm the pastor of Elevation
Church and this is our podcast. I wanted to thank
you for joining us today.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Hope this inspires you.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Hope it builds your faith. Hope it gives your perspective
to see God is moving in your life. Enjoy the message.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Today. I have a word from the Lord for somebody.
I said today, I have a work.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Remember a way, he said, external processing. When the Lord
has a gift for you, get excited, remain standing for
just a moment. I only have two verses this week.
I was meditating on where to go after we talked
last week about God can use this too, and this
is a little bit of a sequel to that message.
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But you know, I love to preach Bible stories and
kind of use the different elements to use different things.
But sometimes I feel like it's good to just come
to something that's a simple instruction in the Word of God,
and hopefully this will help us to apply what God
has planted in our hearts. We're going to go to
Philippians chapter two, Versus twelve and thirteen for a moment.
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I'm preaching from my daughter's Bible today, so you will
notice an extra anointing, gentleness, vivaciousness. I've given all three
of my kid's bibles that from I preached five years
from the Bible. Than give it to a kid, give
it to another. And so we'll see if Abby's is
more annointed than Elijah's and Graham's. Today I cycle through them,
see which one of them has been praying for me
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the most. All right, listen to this verse. Just because
I said it shorter, just because I said it simple,
don't disengage your brain, because I really want you to
pay attention to what the Lord is saying here through.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
The Apostle Paul, the Apostle Paul in this Epistle to
the Church at Philippi. Through the Apostle Paul in this
Epistle to the Church at Philippi, the Word.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Of the Lord says, Therefore, my dear friends, as you
have always obeyed, not only in my presence, but now
much more in my absence, continue to work out your
salvation with fear and trembling Verse thirteen. For it is
God who works in you to will and to act
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in order to fulfill his good purpose. Now that's all
the verses I want to read today. But I want
to give you my sermon title. It's a common saying,
so I'll say it and then you fill in the
blank when I stop and point out you ready, you
could play along online too the title of this message.
And after I say the title, I'll read the scripture
again for you, just so we can get it down deep.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
God will work it.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Right. I set you up, though, because that is amazing.
God will work it out. It's something that everybody wants
to believe about the situation they're facing, whether it's a
custody battle, or whether it's a medical situation, or whether
it's a relational tension. But the message God gave me
today is just one word different. I'm going to just
change one word and I'm not changing the word God.
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And I'm not going to change the word will. I'm
not going to say he might, he could, he can,
But instead of God will work it out, I want
to preach on God will work it in. God will
work it in. And I'll read the verses again and
you'll see where I'm coming from. This is not just wordplay.
I don't just think of a clever thing that I
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can call a sermon that sounds good. So you could
just feel good for a minute. The text says in
Philippians chapter two, verse twelve. Therefore, my dear friends, as
you have always obeyed, not only in my presence, but
now much more in my absence, continue to work out
your salvation with fear and trembling.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
For it is God who works in you.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
To will and to act in order to fulfill his
good purpose. So now as you take your seat prayerfully,
reach around and tell seven people. God will work it in.
God will work it in. Six more, tell them God
will work it in. Put it in the chat. God
will work it in. God will work it in. Praise
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the Lord for what he's working out. Praise the Lord
for what he's working in. And I'll make that make
sense if I do my job. I'm gonna have fun
preaching this today. I already decided. I was thinking today,
like when you were eating that tomato soup. Holly was
eating this tomato soup she made for herself. None of
us like tomato soup, but her. She just made it
for her and she was having so much fun eating
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that tomato soup. I was like, what else is in there?
She's like, no, I'm just excited. I've been growing tomatoes,
and I finally used my tomatoes in the soup. That's
how I feel about my sermons when I get to
eat it with you. And I hope you like tomatoes too. Tomato, Tomato,
Here we go. In Philippians chapter two, verse twelve and thirteen,
the apostle Paul is writing an epistle to the church
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in PHILIPI, and both of those are miracles. Both of
those are miracles. The fact that Paul is an apostle
is miracle number one. Paul the Artist formerly known as
Saul of Tarsus, When the Lord wanted to reach the Gentiles,
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he found somebody who was persecuting the church, And now
the persecutor of the church is now one of the
lead preachers in the church. You never know how God
is working in somebody's life. Don't write people off, don't
count people out, don't slap a label on them, because
this is the way they always are. Well, the way
God always is means more than the way they always are,
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least of all yourself. Don't ever underestimate how God can
work in somebody's life. Thing about that He took him
from the persecutor of the church to a preacher, and
I guess he needed someone who understood the system from
the inside in order to overturn it. That's why God
will often call you into something that you struggle with,
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because the thing that you struggle with, the mother is
the thing you're most qualified to help somebody else step through.
So when the Lord needed to reach the gentiles, he said,
I can't call Peter for this, I better call Saul
and change his name to Paul with a P. So
it's a miracle that he's an apostle. His whole title apostle,
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the apostle Paul. He had been something completely different and
God changed him. And that's one reason that we were
praising him today while we were singing in church. I
wish you could have heard the worship. You're watching this
online later, and I wish you could have been in
here with us because we were praising him because he
didn't leave us like we were. And that just causes
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something to explode inside of you when you realize that
he takes persecutors and turns them into preachers. But the
second miracle I mentioned that there were two in the
text is not implicit, So you got to go beneath
the surface to get this one. Is that he is
writing the letter the epistle, which somebody is that like
an apostle's wife. No epistle just means letter, it's just
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addressed up. It's a letter that ended up being in
the Bible. It was written to a specific audience, the
church at Philippi. It was not written from where it
was written to. And it's a miracle that this scripture
exists because of the conditions Paul wrote it in, not
a writer's cottage by the sea, not a retreat situation
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in the mountains, but rather he wrote this from prison.
I wanted to point that out to you because sometimes
you get more focused on where you are than what
God has called you to do and be, and you
start acting like your environment rather than changing it. This
feels like this could have been a Rhythm Night sermon
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on Wednesday. You know, walk into school and start talking
like a foolish You know you're actually a great, faithful
child of God. But you know, you get in an
environment and you start changing. But Paul would get in
an environment and change it, and that's what made him different.
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And he was also a great multitasker.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Y'all say that men can't multitask ah I beg to
differ the apostle. Paul, while serving a prison sentence, is
writing sentences that we now call scriptures. I told you
this is a good tomato suit. I grew these tomatoes myself.
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And the beautiful thing.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
About this miracle is that you may not be an apostle,
and you might not write an epistol. But let me
break it right down to where you live. Is that
any situation in your life that isn't getting better? And
now I want you to think of that situation right now,
any situation in your life that isn't getting better, You
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can do what Paul did, and you can get busy
while you wait on it to get better. So while
while you're waiting for it to change, change, while you're
waiting for a better opportunity. Obey, y'all don't like this message.
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Y'all don't like tomatoes. The Bible says that Paul was
a great man of faith, But yet his faith did
not keep a snake from biding him last week, did it?
But his faith enabled him to shake the snake off
of his hand and use the incident touch somebody, say
use it, use it, use it. Everything that happens in
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your life good or bad. Use it. You know. Sometimes
I will feel like the moment that God is working
with me on a specific area, that area will be attacked.
And I used to think that meant that God wasn't
really working there. But if you read the scripture, it's
very interesting how it's worded, isn't it. Paul writes to
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the church and says verse twelve, my dear friends, as
you have always obeyed, And then this scripture definitely is
not about me always obeyed. No, no, no. But I
think he's like, I think this is some kind of
reverse psychology Paul is putting on him.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
He's like, as.
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Because they're fighting and they're arguing. And later in the
Book of Philippians he name checks two women and tells him,
y'all stop fighting. And that's that's in chapter four. I'm
not going to preach that this week. But he says,
if you were able to obey not only in my
presence watch this, but now much more in my absence.
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So now think about the sadness of Paul. The apostle
is in prison, he's in a shipwreck. He gets on
another boat. Three months later, he goes to Rome. He's
under house arrest, for two years, and he writes four
epistles Ephesians, Colossians, Philippians, and Filemen. The prison epistles. They
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called him that, but they were written in prison, but
we quote them in church. So where you are right now,
help me. Holy spirit has tremendous potential. Even your darkness
has tremendous potential to be harvested to bring somebody else's light.
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For the Bible says that God, who caused his light
to shine out of darkness, gives his Holy Spirit into
our hearts, and we have this treasure in earth and vessels,
that the excellency.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Of the power might be of God and not of us.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
He's your neighbors say, it's God doing it.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
It's God doing it.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
It wasn't God throwing Paul in the cell, but it
was God on the inside of Paul that caused him
to pick up a pen while he was in there.
And because he picked up a pin while he was
in there, you and I are shouting over stuff, he
said today. Somebody else needs to be shouting in five
years because.
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You didn't give up.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Somebody else needs to be praising God in ten years
because you.
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Stayed the course.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Because what you need to keep going is in you, baby,
say it by faith.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
It is in me.
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He said, you have an opportunity now, and listen. The
opportunity is this, Paul says, absence is an opportunity for application. Absence, Well,
are You're just not gonna write down anything? That's the
best thing I am gonna say all day. Absence is
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an opportunity for application. One of our staff members, Decks,
sent me a stack of different things she had written
down from the sermons that I preached, and she said,
I just want you to see that we hear you.
And in the notes that she put she would work
through the word that she heard. Now, I'm just asking,
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and I'm not gonna ask you to raise your hand.
Do you work through the word that you've heard? Word?
Or does it go in one ear and out in
the parking lot when you get stuck in traffic and
you start lifting up your hands, but only one finger
on the hand because that single finger praise No. But seriously,
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I'm using it as a joke because I don't want
it to feel condemning, because that's not really my style,
because I don't really have room to do that, because
how many words has God given me? That I did
not work through. And I don't mean that you have
to take notes to be saved. God knows he's not
going to check your highlight highlight or colors. When you
get to heaven only pink, you're going to pink only heaven.
Oh pink, green, yellow, red, Yeah, you're going to multicolor heaven.
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But the process by which you mix the word with
faith is when you take what I say and ask God,
what are you saying to me about my situation through
what he said? And that's the process where you filter,
and that's the process where your faith is strengthened. And
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so I used to go to a therapy session where
I would work on an issue in my life, and
after the therapy session, I would have just like a
major I don't want to call it a relapse, but
just in whatever area. And I don't mean drugs or
alcohol in these cases, but just like whatever I just
talked through would be very challenged in my life in
the next twenty four hours. So I brought that to
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the therapist. I'm like, I might have to fire you
because every time we get off the phone, my life
gets worse. Therapist said, So you can get better because
sometimes when it isn't getting better, you are you are.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
You don't get patience by praying for it. You get
patience by being annoyed.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Yeah, no idea. There are people who are helping you
get patient that you are complaining about, and you need
to be paying them. They are your personal trainers for patients.
And I'm not saying we want it, but I'm just
saying God can use that too. And while you're waiting
on God to work some things out, whatever that area is.
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Because if you need a breakthrough in your business, I
believe with you for a breakthrough in your business. If
you believe for a breakthrough in your marriage, I believe
for a breakthrough in your marriage. If you are believing
for a husband or a wife to come into your
life because you don't want to be alone, I believe
with you and stand with you for that. But just
know that some people are praying for a breakthrough in
the marriage that they prayed for yesterday that is struggling
now because they believe the lie that the situation would
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fix them. So when we say God will work it in,
I'm not just trying to be clever. I thought about
how we're wanting God to affect situation, and that's great.
But Paul said, my absence in this prison is actually
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a gift for you in Philippi because when you're hearing
the word or when you're learning something, you know you're
getting it at a mental level, Okay, And that's wonderful.
Instruction is wonderful. Instruction is wonderful. There's a man in
the church right now who taught me a lot about tennis,
a great tennis pro out here. That's wonderful. But the
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thing about instruction is it is limited until you have
an opportunity for big word integration.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
And integration happens when what you.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Were taught is challenged or tested and you have to
remember under pressure what you learned in peace. So be
careful coming to church because in this peaceful environment God
is going to prove after the peaceful. For Paul, he
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provided a prison where he wrote four epistles for the
church at Philippi.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
He did not leave.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Paul's physical presence with them, but he gave his presence
within them, so that when Paul's presence was taken away
from them, his presence within them intensified. What I'm trying
to say is anything in your life that goes away
and you think you need it. God is going to
release something greater in your life that you didn't even
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know you had until you got in this situation where
you needed it. So eventually Paul says, give me the
first verse again. He says, continue in it. Touch your
neighbor and say keep going, continue to work out. Now
that's not a literal workout thing, y'all. I remember the
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first time that somebody called me, and I guess it
was like to my ego or whatever. They were like,
uh so, as a lifter, what are your splits? I thought,
in case you need me to interpret it. As a weightlifter,
what body parts do you work out on which day?
Nobody ever asked me that before, and I figured, oh,
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I must be giving evidence that what I've been doing
is actually improving my physical frame to the point where
I'm a lifter. Yah.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
How good that felt to be called a lifter.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Now.
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I lifted a lot, but I've never been called a lifter.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
I was walking around the house. I didn't tell anybody,
but I was looking at the kids. They were like, Daddy,
I'm like lifter. You could call me lift or mister lifter.
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I was so proud for three days because what I did.
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Was integrated in my life in such a way. If
you would look at your neighbor and say, as a praiser,
when do you praise God? Ask him one of your splits.
Tell them, well, I praise when I feel it. I
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praise when I don't. I praise on the mountain, I
praise in the valley. I praise when I'm sure y'all
gonna catch on in twelve seconds. I praise when I'm doubting.
I praise when I've got it. I praise when it's gone.
I praise when I feel it. I praise when I
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faith it. I'm not faking it. I'm faith in it
because if I faith it.
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It will form me. So let's break it down.
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The absence is an opportunity for application. Like when I
used to work out, I needed somebody to be there
to make me work out, and I found out that
they were really good partners when I heard their voice
even when they weren't there. What I love about God
and a good good instructor is not satisfied simply with
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your assimilation of information. But a good instructor will sometimes
create absence and life will you're in the season right now,
and the Lord was speaking to me about it. I
don't know who is for. I don't even know who
is for. You know if it's for you. You're in
a season right now where it is very important that
you integrate what God has given you. And it is
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feeling intense right now because of the absence of something
that you think you need to have. Paul said, in
my absence, much more than my presence, you got to
remember what you know about God in the absence of joy.
You've got to remember how to rejoice in the absence
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of harmony. You have to remember to be a peacemaker
in the absence of money. You got to stay creative.
So God will some times take resources away from you
to remind you of something that you're not using. One
of the worst things God can give some people is
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too much money, because they will start stuffing themselves with
stuff and forget the substance of who they were that
led them to the point that they had the wealth
to begin with. That's why the Word says, when you
have become great, do not forget the Lord your God,
for it is he that gives you the power to
get wealth. And I think that as much as God's
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presence provides comfort, absence creates opportunity. I want to really
get this home to you. Okay, so just bear with
me for a minute, then put another tomato in this soup.
We had a great conversation, me and Elijah, my oldest,
and I'm working all my kids into the illustration today. Okay, Okay,
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So I'm just working my kids in because they're expensive.
Get the most out of this relationship. When he left
for college, enough for a couple of years after Buck
and Chunks stopped coming over to help me work out.
He was my workout partner. When he left for college,
he went three hours away. I was so depressed. I
would still go lift weights, but I wouldn't even put
my shoes on or turn the lights on. And I
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wouldn't even turn Metallica on. I mean Maverick City, Kurt
Franklin on forgot where I was for a minute. I
sit out there in the silence, just cranking out the reps.
And I would sometimes just send him just to make
him feel bad about leaving me, send him a picture
of me sitting there in the dark. That's hard without
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your partner. Then I felt better because about a month
or two after he'd been gone. We were having this
deep conversation one night and he opened up to me.
He's like, college is great, but it's hard. I'm grateful
to be here, but it's hard, he said. And it's
hard because I have to be both of us here.
I have to be both of us. I'm so used
to having you say you know, son, and sometimes you
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got on my nerves. But I needed that. I needed
you to get on my nurse. Y'all. I've had a
grammy of New York Times, all that stuff. I felt
like I got the greatest reward of my life when
he said this. He said, now I have to be
both of us because it let me know we've gone
from instruction to integration. And then let me know my
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voice is still speaking, and let me know that I'm
still talking three hours away. I'm still talking to you
three hours away. And Paul wanted the church at Philip
Fi to know I'm still talking to you even though
I'm in this prison cell. God wants you to know
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I'm still talking to you even though you lost your
mother last year. And God wants you to know I'm
still talking to you even though you don't know how
you're going to make payroll next month. And God wants
you to know I'm still talking to you. Even though
you haven't felt goosebumps in a while, and while everybody
else seems to be rejoicing, you feel kind of empty.
God says, this is not absence, it's integration, because.
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My sheep know my voice.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
And the most powerful moment of your life to work
a word from God is not just when you're putting
it in a journal to write it down, but when
you are putting it into practice, to live it out.
This is a practice season for you, this absence that
you feel, this thing that has changed. And I wish
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I could sit down and get to know your conversation,
your exact situation, so we could have an exact conversation.
But Paul wrote one letter to the whole church, and
he said, it's good that I'm gone. That's what Jesus
said to the disciples. If I leave you, I'll send
you the Holy Spirit. I can send you something greater
than just my words. I can give you my spirit,
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greater integration. God is doing something greater in your life.
So something goes away, something greater come. This is the
rhythm of God. Give him praise. Come on, giveing praise,
not PGA praise, give him a God praise, big God,
big praise. Okay, Okay, God.
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Will work it in. So I want to study. I
want to study this a little bit more.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
And I'm relatively about halfway through my message right now,
and we will see if I get to continue it
all the way. I got some other parts that I
want to put but I don't know if they But anyway,
therefore my difference, as you have always obeyed, not only
in my presence, but now much more in my I
can't get off of this. God said, the absence of
what you think you need in this season is an
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opportunity for.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
You to get a tuned to what you really have.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
The best thing that happened to me to be able
to effectively minister to you was when we couldn't have
people in church in twenty twenty. Because it taught me
not to need your energy to be effective to minister
God's word. And when I couldn't ride on the waves
your energy, I had to let God make a wave
inside of me with this word. So I came out
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of it never more alive and in love with the
word of God. Because of something that was taken away.
Now I'm not using this to talk about me or
tomato soup or weight lifting, although I am proud to
be a lifter. But but I want you to see
that the absence creates an opportunity for application. And this
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was weird. I don't know if you thought it was
weird when I read it. He said, work out verse
twelve again, please on the screen, work out your salvation
with fear and trembling. So I thought that might mean
when we give the invitation every week for you to
get saved, raise your hand just in case, you know,
Like I don't know. I thought I did this when
I was eight, but I'm scared and i'm trembling that
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maybe what I did last week canceled it out. So
just in case, Lord, I'll put my hand up right there. Yeah,
you give me another one of those Bibles. I hadn't
read any of them. I got seven of them stacked
up at home, but yeah, give me another one. And
then I realized what he didn't say. Now watch this.
He didn't say work for your salvation. Put it back up.
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He said work out your salvation. He's not saying earn it.
That's contrary to everything else that God gave Paul to
teach us. That's contrary to the very essence of the
Cross of Christ. How are you going to earn a
grace that was given from across You didn't die on
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So what he's saying is not only to integrate what
you've been taught, what you've been instructed, and apply it.
Like Van Saevner said, never forget in the darkness what
God showed you in the light. He's saying, the reason
that you're so worried now, fear and trembling is a
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saying that they had, Like I don't know, we might
say lock stock and barrel means everything you know. They
would say fear and trembling like a saying. It was
a colloquialism. He says, work out your salvation with fear
and trembling. He does not mean be afraid that God
didn't give you what he promised to give you. He said,
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you're forgiven. You're forgiven. He said, there's no condemnation. There's
no condemnation. It is being afraid to live your life
without the awareness of that. Because you know that if
you ever lose awareness of who God is to you
and in you, you will make the stupidest mistakes. So
I want you to work out. You're about to see
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it what God has already worked in. And God is
working on you, and you are a work in progress.
But your salvation is not. It's finished, so there's nothing
more to be done. That's why Jesus said it is finished.
God already worked that out.
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If you placed your faith in him, you are all right.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
He's saved. Now you are taking what God gave you
and working it out. And that's what I told Elijah.
I said, this is your season to grow. Every conversation
we've had down here lifting weights together, every time I've
ever corrected you that you wanted to kill me, but
you knew I would kill you if you tried to
kill me, every single one of those things. Now that
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we're not together, now that it's not like it was,
it gets to go deeper inside of you. God is
taking you deeper in this season. He did not depart
from you. He's taking you deeper. But the reason you
keep worrying about stuff that God has already worked out.
I got to say that better. You are worried about
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something God has already worked out.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Now, why do you do that.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Because you stop at verse twelve and never reverse thirteen.
You know, I mean people would take verse twelve and
stop right there again. Please, therefore, since you were obeying
when I was there, you know, keep that same energy,
Paul is saying. When I was preaching, y'all were saying, Amen,
Now keep that same touch. Your neighbors say, keep that
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same energy a couple tuesdays from now, no matter who
wins the election, no matter who's acting crazy, keep that
same energy because we had Republicans, Democrats, black, white, Hispanic, male, female,
all in the same church, and we were all unified.
And we will not let a culture that divides us
speak greater than a.
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King that defines us.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Y'all, keep that same energy out there in the world,
all right over the next two weeks. Don't you get
Facebook crazy and be church saying. I don't know where
that came from. They just came to me. I decided
to work it in, work it in, work it in.
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Work I don't know where that came from. I just
decided to work it in. I don't know where this
snake came from. I just decided to shake it off
and work it in.
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I don't know where that feeling came from. I just
decided to work it in. I don't know where that
temptation came from. I just decided to pray extra this.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Week because if I'm gonna get extra temptation, I'm gonna
need extra grace. So I'm gonna pray extra prayers.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
I'm gonna work this in. I like it.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
I like it so so the reason you're worrying about
stuff God has already worked out. The reason you keep
worrying is because of the way you keep thinking verse twelve.
It is God that works in you. Uh No, not
only my presence, now, I was from I just continue
to work out your salvage my fear and tremble. And
you're like, okay, okay, no, go back, go back to
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verse twelve. You stopped there. Church. That's a comma.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
I feel like I'm a multitasking preacher.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
I talk about fitness, English grammar, theology, parenting recipes, tomatoes,
work it all in, work out your salvation with fear
and trembling. Now, if you read that, you will be
worried because you are trying to work out something without God. Okay.
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What gets me tripped up every time that I get overwhelmed.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
And I'm not.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Talking about just having butterflies or getting nervous. I think
all that is good, but when I get overwhelmed to
the point where it really shuts me down. You know how,
there's that line between when you're working on something and
it's wearing you out, and you realize, huh, this feels
kind of cyclical because it's making me sick. If that's
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where you are in the field, and read what comes
after the comma work out yourself with fear and trembling,
For it is God who works in you. So that's
a very interesting thought, isn't it. It is God who
works in you. Don't forget that while you work it out.
Don't forget that. So don't get so good at trying
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to figure stuff out on paper that you forget to
work stuff out according to purpose, because the Bible said
it is God that works in you, too, willing to
do according to his good purpose. So God starts with
the purpose, not the person, and then he finds the
person that will accomplish that purpose, and he shapes the
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person that will accomplish that purpose. And that's why you
can know God is working on you right now and
working in you, and so when you sit down, I
will never forget sitting down to work on something one time,
and I'll tell you exactly what it was, because I
think it's a great illustration. I had the opportunity several
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years ago to interview Bishop ts right here on this
stage at Elevation Church, and I was so honored to
do it. He is my preaching hero, and he's my
friend now too. But you know, if someone is your hero,
even if they're your friend, you still get really nervous,
even if it's not their fault. I was so nervous
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to interview that man because I wanted to do a
good job for it. I wanted to do a good job.
He was promoting a book called Sore Soar, not like
lift or sore like sore like an eagle anyway, And
I sat down for weeks beforehand and I would work,
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but mostly I would worry. It wasn't like I was
getting anything done by the time I got done, just
being a complete stress ball for several weeks. I think
I counted seventy five note cards of questions to ask
the man.
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About the book, And everybody.
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Would say, aren't you excited to interview Bishop Jake's and
I'd be like, yeah, excitement and anxiety can kind of
feel the same sometimes, and what you call it depends
on what you're focused about. And when I look back
on it, I regret all of the stress that I
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felt from the pressure that wasn't even real. The fact
of the matter is he could have had anybody interview
him for the book. He wanted me to do it.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
He could have gone anywhere he wanted.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
He didn't go to Oprah, he came to Ferdick, he
didn't come to doctor Phil. He came to doctor Ferdi.
But I couldn't feel that way about it, because.
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I'd be like, what do you am? I gonna ask him?
He's so smart.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
The very reason I was stressed was the very reason
I should have relaxed.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Not five minutes after.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
We got on this stage, and he sat in his
chair and I sat in mind, and I had my
whole stack right, and I said my first question to him.
Twenty minutes later, I still had seventy four questions left
and the interview is only ninety minutes. And I remember,
in that moment, Oh, it's bishop. He's good at talking. Oh,
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all this time I've been thinking about this like I
gotta carry it? And what am I gonna do if
my questions are stupid? And what if the people look
at me funny? And what if I mispronounced the word?
And what if he doesn't sell any books? And what
if he never wants to talk to me again? And
what if I accidentally say something that wasn't intended to
be offended? But I was just trying to be casual
when it came across a disrespectful.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
And all of this.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
To interview one of the greatest talkers in the world.
The only thing I had to do to be successful
in the interview was this, you know, just a reverse
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nod for variety and effect, but between those two nods.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
And he had it covered. I see it stressing.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
About something in your life today. Don't know what it is,
don't need to God knows. I see you playing out
the situation over and over again.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
You call it preparation, but it's not preparation because it
is eating through your peace. And here you are.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Thinking, well, and I get to that in three weeks.
It's gonna be terrible. Oh when my kids become teenagers.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
They are yet toddlers. You got twelve years.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
To read books about this crap you're gonna be dealing with,
and by then all the books will be saying different
stuff than they say today. I see you looking at
a situation in the future of your life, and you
are afraid. And I'll tell you why you are afraid.
You forgot God is going to be there when you
get there. I remember, Oh, Bishop's gonna be there.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
He's a good talker. I wish you would remember.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
With all the scenarios you're playing out in your mind,
and all the ways it could go wrong, and all
of the stuff that you're scrolling through starting to talk
about is it another world war?
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Well, what you're gonna do about it? If it is,
you're gonna go fight it. In whatever happens, you're.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
Gonna have God. You're gonna have God.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
If it's a prison, he'll be your cell mate.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
You're gonna have God.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Oh yeah, I forgot. Tell your neighbor, I forgot. I'm
gonna have God in it with me. That's why I'm.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Not stressed about retirement, because I've never.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Seen the righteous forsaken. I was young and now I'm old.
I'd never seen the righteous forsaken.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Nor is see begging for bread God is gonna be
in this with me. God is going to be in
the challenge with me. God is going to be in
the uncertainty. God's gonna walk in that doctor's office with me.
God's gonna be on the other side of this pain
will break up with me. God's gonna be with me
when I make my first appointment with the counselor. God's
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gonna be with me when I show up back first
day to school and I'm twenty seven. God's gonna be
with me when I open up my finances and begin
to get it in order and humble myself.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
I forgot about God. That's why I was shaken. That's
why I was trembling. But I'm not trembling anymore because I'm.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
Trusting that when I get there. Oh yeah, thank you Jesus.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
Yeah, I'll get a bay a bracelet fell off. But
let me work it in real quick. Let me work
it in real quick. There's some stuff that needs to
come off of you in this season. It happens, so
I might as well work it in. It happens, so
I might as well work it in. There are some
things in.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Your life that you need to stop stressing about.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
At a level that assumes that you're going to have
to do it alone. I never get stressed about a
sermon if I remember, oh, yeah, God's going to be there,
and just like bishops is pretty good at talking, God's
pretty good at godding.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
How about that. I'm so tired to hear people say
in life be life and God be godding.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
Don't quote me on that. That's so corny. But I
think sometimes we take the journey in our mind as
if God's not going to be there. That was so
profound for me when I realized it. It's like, have
you ever been going in a situation and you are
so stressed and then you remembered, oh yeah, they're going
to be there and the person that you thought of. Now,
there are some times where you're going into a situation
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and you remember they are going to be there, and boy,
then you really are reaching for the prescription pills because well,
but uh, there's other people like I know, for Holly,
when Amy is going to be there when you're preaching
or recording, there's certain things you don't have to worry about.
And she's going over to get ready and I can
see she's stressed. She's like I'm good Amy's gonna be there,
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and she just realizes there's things that I don't even
have to think about because she's good at we've been
together so long. She's gonna take care of some stuff
so I can just focus on what I need to do.
I hear the Lord saying, I'm going to be there
even if Paul can't, even if nobody else does, even
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if you've never been there before. I only needed three
note cards and two nods, and that, just like the devil.
Joyce Smeier said, worry is down payment on the problem
you may never even have. And I'd just like the
devil charging you for stuff that you don't even need,
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that you didn't even order. So he said, work this
thing out, but you gonna need seventy five note cards.
Just make sure the mic is on nod your head.
I think, as simple as this sounds, sometimes to just
assume that God is going to be there, we should
just sit in it for a minute. What would it
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change about the situation that you're afraid of facing if
you knew God was going to be there. One time,
when they got so big on cancel culture, I thought, well,
what did they just cancel me? And then God said, how
many people were you preaching to when I called you?
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And the answer was five. And the Lord said, well,
surely you can find at least five that'll come listen
to if they can swer the whole earth. You can
find five. You can find five. And the fact is
that whatever happens in your life, before it even happens
to you, God already has a way to work it in. Now.
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I didn't make this bracelet fall off, It just happened.
I worked it in. I worked it in. Remember when
we were at Elevation Nights in Oakland. Now the reason
they're laughing when I said Oakland, they're not like West
Coast present prejudice or anything like that. I don't want
you to think when we got to Oakland for Elevation Knights.
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This is twenty twenty two. I will never forget this night. Now,
when you preach at Elevation Knights, we're going into these
big arenas like basketball arenas and stuff, right, and they're
always telling me this is the NBA team that plays here.
I don't care about basketball. I don't care about any
of that. I just care about serving him.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
No, Actually, i'm looking what bands came here?
Speaker 1 (43:57):
Oh, the Rolling Stones were here. That's cool to me.
I don't care if played basketball here. But when we
were in Oakland, I don't know what made me wear
that big heavy jacket that night. I remember wearing this
big heavy jacket. I'm up preaching and there's a lot
of distractions because it's not like a church service where
y'all are so attentive even watching online right now. You
just at Elevation nights, it's like a concert and then
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a sermon. And some of the people that got there,
they got totally like bait and switched. They had no
idea they were gonna have to sit through a sermon.
They thought it was just music. So I am like
a total buzzkill for the whole room. But in Oakland
it was going pretty good. And you know, you have
to work around the distractions. This guy's over here eating
popcorn and chicken fingers? Did she get did she have
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a beer? Hovering? And trust in God, you know, uses
all kinds of things going through your mind, just all
the distraction stuff, and you have to learn just to
kind of like work around it, right, But a couple
times on these nights, something happens that you can't work
around and in Oakland, something happened. I was in the
middle of my sermon. I was preaching on Acts, Chapter three,
verses one through ten. The message was called Surprise, and
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I was talking about Peter and John at the gate
called beautiful, and the man showed up and he wasn't
expecting to get healed, and they weren't expecting to be healers,
but surprise. Right when I'm reving up, you know, I've
gotten my background cover. All the lights in the whole
arena go out, not gradually, not dimmed out, and so
I'm thinking, oh, that's weird. They'll come back on in
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a minute.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
Six minutes and forty five seconds.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
No, I'm not exaggerating six It felt like six years.
It felt like six years because all the lights go out.
And the first thing I think the whole audience thought was, oh,
this is a part of his sermon. And so I
tell them real quickly. I'm like, this is not a
part of my sermon. And I'm standing up there. You know,
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ten seconds goes by, twenty seconds goes by. I'm a
professional man. I've been doing this since I was sixty.
I've been doing this since I was in Monks corner,
South Carolina. I can do this. I can hold this
crowd for a minute. I can preach through this. But
then it's thirty seconds, it's a minute, and you kind
of run out of steam to stall, you know how
about those lights? And then it hit me, you don't
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know how long it's going to take for them to
work this out, so work it in.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
I'm telling you, I'm telling you the truth.
Speaker 1 (46:32):
With the lights off, I started preaching about when you're
in a dark season. I started preaching about how Peter
and John weren't always at the gate called beautiful, but
they had once been in a garden called Getsemone, where
the savior of the world was facing the darkness of
our sin. And what do you do when you're in
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the darkness of the garden of Gethsemone and the lights
are out all around you and you are uncertainty because
I don't know how long it's going to take them
to put the lights back on.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
So while I'm waiting for them.
Speaker 5 (47:08):
To work it out, I'm trying.
Speaker 1 (47:13):
To close this message, I really am. But there is
somebody listening to me who's waiting for God to work
it out, and God is saying back while you're waiting
in this dark season for me to work it out,
for me to show you the next step, for me
to give you the next crumb, for me to give
you the next notice, for me to give you the
next relationship, for me to turn this thing around, for
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the report to be positive.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
While you're waiting for me to work it out. Work
it in, work it in, work it in.
Speaker 1 (47:44):
I hear God saying, work it in, for it is
God that works in you. It is God that works
in you. And show them the video. About five minutes
in the people did something. The people had their phones.
Speaker 2 (47:58):
Out, which you could put me down in the pit. Yeah,
you could take me out.
Speaker 4 (48:03):
I didn't tell him to me.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
He thought they just did it. He thought he could
pete me here with six thousand six.
Speaker 4 (48:11):
Uh huh sup surprise surprise, Yeah, breaks verdict.
Speaker 6 (48:21):
No course, get your likes out. Give him a seal
of praise, I said, give him a shout of praise.
Speaker 4 (48:38):
Are you a praiser?
Speaker 2 (48:41):
Are you a lift?
Speaker 6 (48:46):
I think it's great because maybe that's the message God
want me.
Speaker 1 (48:50):
Maybe that's the message God wanted me to breach you.
Speaker 6 (48:54):
Look at all those lights, look at all that evidence,
Look all that phrase, hollylo out.
Speaker 5 (49:05):
Look at all of that strength, Look at all of
that glory.
Speaker 4 (49:11):
From something we didn't sick coming surprise. It's not the
lie ordered, but it's what gone ordered. Done is suffering.
God ordered my steps.
Speaker 2 (49:26):
God is in this with me.
Speaker 4 (49:29):
Get your light out, get your light out, Get your
light out.
Speaker 1 (49:38):
You had that light in your pocket the whole time,
but you didn't need to work that light out until
the light was absent. The absence became the opportunity for
the illustration.
Speaker 2 (49:55):
Because while I'm.
Speaker 1 (49:56):
Waiting for God to work this out, might as well
work it in. God, what do you want to teach
me through this? God? How do you want to prepare
me for this? I was complaining about something that wasn't
succeeding in this season of my life lately, and God said, exactly,
because you got cocky about what you could do, and
I needed to teach you to pay attention. So I
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took your success away for a minute so you would
pay attention to the source of your strength. Jesus, I
didn't even plan for us to do this altogether. We
didn't work any of that out, but we worked it in.
I'm gonna give you twenty four seconds come on, turn
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the lights back on.
Speaker 2 (50:40):
It feels kind of dangerous. I'm gonna give you twenty four.
Speaker 1 (50:43):
Seconds to give God the greatest praise.
Speaker 4 (50:46):
You gave him, because he gave me one more day.
Speaker 5 (50:53):
Nineteen seconds, Hey, key seconds, except you're running out of time.
You're running out of time and that and midnight pull
in silas, don't.
Speaker 4 (51:06):
Know what to do?
Speaker 1 (51:08):
Do it?
Speaker 4 (51:09):
Didn Hey seven six fut.
Speaker 1 (51:22):
Thank you for joining us. Special thanks to those of
you who give generously to this ministry. Is because of
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