May 7, 2024 • 60 mins
Today's Eyes Up Here FLASHBACK features a two for one special. You get two of the rarest interviews in Francine's audio vault featuring WWE Hall of Famer, Madusa (Alundra Blayze) and AEW's HEY! (EW) host, RJ City.
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Speaker 1 (00:15):
He's a great talker, but he he's un.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Conventional in the ring. Let's so let's introduce r J C.
Does he have his does he have his coffee? And
is he?
Speaker 3 (00:28):
I go tears? There? Your tears there? You're drinking tea.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
I got tea. Yeah, I see the little tea. I
can't do a show without any kind of tea. So
this week I'm going straight green tea with a little.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Spilt the tea on this show. So we drink tea.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Prancine, you can have a n app. I want to
talk to Chad.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Okay, that's fine, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
You got you got your hat on, you got your
sunglasses on. You're in the house. What is the deal?
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Very funny right over to do you see the light
kind of beaming down to right inside.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
It's a little bit of.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Amick here, RJ. It's a little bit of the sad person.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Don't explain them? Is that the gimmick? What's that that?
The gimmick is that you wear accessories and don't explain them.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
No, because any time I need it, if I'm cool,
too cool for the room.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
I just did want to.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
And they bounce, it bounces off the screen. That's the
other reason. I can't pull him down because it bounces
right off.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
So listen, happy Valentine's stage.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
He is every Valentine's Day to you?
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Do we do we celebrate it? Or is it? Is
it something that you're just now you think it is?
You're not buying into it?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Well, what am I gonna do? Is there someone I
already love? Should know that I love them every other day?
Speaker 2 (01:36):
It's true, it's true.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Let me tell you something about this kid right here.
He I tell him all the time. We've only met twice.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
We met second time.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
You don't even you.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Don't even remember. I'm so heartbroken. I met you once
walking you guys were getting on the elevator.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Oh yeah, and I say, and I go, I go
like this, I go, Hi, I'm freezing. Yeah, I know
who you are. I'm like, excuse many hook, I am
just trying to be friendly. Yeah, I look at that face.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
And the second time he comes over and we chat
a little bit, and now I can't get rid of him.
He just haunts me every day in my life.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
I'm a big fan of her work. The Whole Route
Chap Dance with the Kindo Stick, It.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Was a lot.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Remember that one that was.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
I've done it all, kid, I've done it all.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
But let me tell you so, I told him looking
at him right, and I'm a big Disney Mark. He
is guessed on. Yeah, he is freaking guessed on. And
and where's that said that you were telling me? In
Florida that does the whole stick where you dress up
like a character and your wrestle.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Oh yeah, they go to like uh conventions, They go
to like uh, like comic book conventions, like comic cons
and things of that nature, and they have wrestlers dress
up as as people. But I had it. I did
have a different idea for that. Okay, I have an
alter ego and it like perhaps the way Finn Balor
has the demon I transform into zomb Arthur, and it
(03:07):
would be be Arthur back from the dead.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
I love it. Good.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
I got a question for you. I'm gonna go off
the rails. So I know you and I are big
fans of Match.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Game, Yes, you love it.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
We're also big.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Fans of Charles Nelson Riley and Brett Summers. And I
told him if we were ever together on Halloween, that's
our costume, Charles.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Like, ready to go. It's the thing I have in
my closet like Superman.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
I've seen him in his costume. It is unfreaking believable.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
So we watched that every day here because my mom's
going to be ninety years old and she has it
on every morning.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
And I heard a.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Good question, and I'm gonna and I'm gonna ask you,
and I know your answer is probably going to be
the same as mine. And I got healed by my mother,
who told me it wasn't nice.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
So it's strange to be married to a jeweler. For
our anniversary, he gave me a solid gold replica of
his blank.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
And then and I'm writing, I'm going home that market,
and then.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
You and I would be answering, because we'd be sitting next.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
To you would say do you have? And I would
show you mine. Oh, that's what I was thinking too,
And I or I.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
That's such a shit answer. You better, you could do
better than that.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Yeah. And then below us, Richard Dawson would be making
eyes at some gallon the front row.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Yes, and they'd be throwing cards at us to try
and help us. But what would your answer be?
Speaker 3 (04:29):
I would say his schwan's.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
I said his penis, I said penis out loud, and
my mother healed me.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
You can't say that.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Sorry, everything, with everything that has been on your resume,
your mother's going to give you ship now for saying.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
She's given me ship for thirty years about everything.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
So she's not stopping. It's okay, she's allowed.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
She's one question. If I may turn this around, you
may had a very uh and I don't mean this
as a pun of extreme career. Was there any moment
when your mother went, you know what, I'm proud of
that wrestling stuff.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
When I used to wear shirts that would like start
here and then she'd be okay with it, but like
this kind of attire showing a little too much skin.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
See, it's pretty girl. You don't have to show your
chest exactly. You're pretty.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Such motherly instinct.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
My mother says the same thing in regards to me
and my genitalia.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Well, that's because you bring your mother on your your
coffee show where you're in your underwear with your bird
kind of peeking out, and you know, it's kind of
hard when you have when you're naked.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
And your mom sometimes it has a mind of a tone.
We all have heards.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Have you ever heard of be referred to as a bird,
or am I the only person on the earth house?
Speaker 3 (05:46):
I've never heard of it?
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Jesus, is that like a pilly thing or something? When
I grew up, it.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Was called the bird, the bird, and then so far
noan something else entirely, I suppose so.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
But when you were a little kid and like the
penis is, oh God, put your bird away, like right?
Speaker 3 (06:03):
And when you were in high school you go to
the mall and go bird watching.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
I said, now look at his bird. It's so big.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Yes, that's why you go to the park and bread
in your pocket.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Anyway, So are you? You never answered me? Are you
the Twinings guy?
Speaker 3 (06:19):
The Twinnings guy?
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Yes? Did you do the Twinings commercial?
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Oh no, oh my god, me too.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yeah, it looks exactly like you.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
It's not me, unfortunately, dah Man, I thought it was.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Have you seen the Twinings commercial with the man with
the white hair and he's like, oh, he's supposed to
be back in like the Eh what, I don't even
know for.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Such a tea conn of source that yourself?
Speaker 4 (06:46):
How much of a TV? Not much of a TV
watcher these days?
Speaker 2 (06:48):
I swear at you, it looks exactly.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Like you all right, So yeah, I'm going to deny
all the controversial rumors. I am not the Twinnings man.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Damn it. I thought I was on the thing. Oh
r Jay. I kind of asked this to everybody.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
If you want to tell me, fine, if you want
to put a spin on it, a funny spin, you can.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
How did you get involved in this wacky business because
you're young.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
You're still young. I'm sixty two. Yeah, I don't remember
not wanting to do it.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
So you grew up as a fan?
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Yeah yeah, okay, this and the Muppet Show and as No,
it's the same shit. Okay, it's the exact same thing.
What years between the One Man Gang and gone?
Speaker 1 (07:33):
What year did you start? Seriously, like, let's just be
one moment in time. It's don't say nineteen seventy three, startet,
start working, training, working.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Oh I have, I said, like I guess, And you're
dish ten years in a bit. So you're a vet, sure, a.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Grizzle old vet like myself.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Is that grizzled or.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
I would think he was.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
I mean, we take care of our skins. We don't
look like it.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Oh my god, I did this thing on the phone
and it said my.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Skin was thirty four years old, and I I was
taken aback.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
I was so excited because you.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Know, wonderful. Also, it's also because you stepped away for
a bit and it gave you a little rejuvenation.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
It's pretty you're I think you're right, but.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Hard you would look like Greg Valentine with.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Well, not really.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
I didn't a party hard, that's the difference. I wasn't
a partier and I never smoked that smoke.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
And I'll kill you.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
By the way, I would assume it like ECW in
that time, there must have been a tremendous amount of
secondhand Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
But see, I tried to get away from it.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
I literally would try to get away from everything because
you know, confined space, lots of good.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
I don't really party either. I feel like, oh, like
all the public belligerent yelling that I would do at
a party, I do it at a wrestling show.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
So I'm done my yelling for the week after a show.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Well, I was trying to explain the chad like, how
unconventional you are in a good way, in a good way, right.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
The convention is shitty, So yeah, you.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Have to you have to see a match to understand
what I'm talking about. What do you think? And I
know what you're going to say, but I want the
people to hear it.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Okay, what do you think about Cornett's rant about this
day and age with you? And well, not specifically you,
but like the Joey Ryan's out there and the comedy.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
So I tweeted him only once because I see because
I see stuff and I'm like this mother, and but
I try to control myself because I have a life
to lead.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
But he said something about theater and he said, you
never go to a Broadway show and they break the
fourth wall. I'm like, wait a minute. Now I had
to speak gone, that's too far. So that was like
my tipping point as the theater representative of wrestling. I
had to be like, wait a minute. So I said,
listen they you know that happens all the time. And
(10:09):
then he came back with some tirade that made no sense.
It was a string of insults that are not even his,
which bothers me. They're over rolling insults. And I said,
you know, I know that this is a gimmick, but
you are purposely misusing information to play some side and
get controversy, and I said, with respect, take your own
(10:33):
dick and pick it up your own ass.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
And then he came back with all these insults that
were strung together in a way that made no sense,
and I was like, I'm I'm done. Here were no no,
And I don't know. Maybe maybe he respects me. Who knows,
But I will say, in my astute research, it has
been dead for like seventy five years, so I don't
(11:00):
really know what this guy is necessarily talking about.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
I feel like that all those guys that came up
in that era, yes, they kind of all have the
same mentality, like a lot of them don't adapt to.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
The change in times.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
I think what you guys do is brilliant because number one,
your bodies are going to feel great, like down the line,
better than most. Let's put it that because you're still bumping.
It's not like you don't take a bump. No, that's okay.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
I'd feel like good.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
But of course, of course, if I went another way
in life, i'd feel like, you know, I'm twenty, I
feel like I'm one hundred.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
But that's another story.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
I think if everybody did the same thing, going to
a show would be boring, right, So you have entertainers
that come out and can work but used to do
a different style, and it adds so much to the show.
Like as a fan of the sport, I appreciate that because.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
It's not always the same, the same, the same. I
like varieties.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
So I don't get everybody getting up in arms about
like the comedy Gaga spots or you know, the one
the one match that is actually entertaining and funny, but
you're not killing yourself. You're not really doing the art
of wrestling like it doesn't I don't get it.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
No. First of all, wrestling has been very comedic for
a very long time, right in spots, Yes, yeah, yeah. Also,
the concept is ridiculous. They're really that bad. I think
we can all agree.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
On this, I think, so I'll agree with it.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
I can consider myself perhaps a digestive between the other matches.
You know, when you go to a wine tasting and
they'll give you a cracker in between the glasses of wine.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
You're the palette cleansing portion. That's okay, But I enjoyed.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
That, yes, and so does everyone on the show. Because
you can't have a string of the same stuff all
the time.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
If I go to a show and I see the
exact same match for eight matches, yeah, why am I there?
Speaker 2 (13:17):
I want variety.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
If you went to the circus and it was just
three hours of the Lions.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Yeah exactly, we'll see you get it, and and that's
why you do what you do.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
But I just you know, as I you know, I
don't perform that much anymore.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
I'm I'm like, I'm like that uh, that special attraction
that's at the carnival.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
I pop in every once in a while. You're on
the scene, you're working a lot.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Yeah, yeah, the dead Dead Woman walking of course.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Sure, But you're you're You're out there. People are reacting
to you.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
You're you're all. I was telling Chad, You're all over
social media.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
You know, you're Google me once in a while.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
I mean I've seen I've seen your name, you know,
I mean I know the name his what.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Are you buddy?
Speaker 1 (14:01):
A piece of shit shirt? Like when that first came out,
I popped so huge. I was like, this is brilliant
because people are going to relate to it, and and
you've sold so.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Much people many people buy it that are not wrestling
fans because it's an every day it got.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
It's a universal statement that life. It could apply to wrestling,
it could apply to your job. It could apply to
your shitty kids, or your shitty pet, or your shitty life.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
It's universal. It's brilliant. I loved it. I loved it.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
I'm telling you you found a good niche and I
like I very much.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Enjoy it, and I like to pronounce it niche. But
that's weird.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Niche, niche, niche, it's niche.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Why are you uncomfortable saying niche?
Speaker 2 (14:50):
I'm not I always thought it isn't niche.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
You grew up in the wrong neighborhood.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
I grew up at Catholic schools. They we didn't talk
like a niche. Okay, see I learned something. Well, thank you.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
You go either way.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
No people say I could say. I could say both,
to put on your sunglasses, Chad and take a stand here,
and then I'll go niche. How about like that?
Speaker 1 (15:20):
I just I just think that you're trying to make
me feel very inferior.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Well, it's which is what you do, that is your
this is your.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Story, and I'm inclimidated. Well strike out.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
I'm going to say something. I love your mother.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Oh thank you.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Your mother brings so much light to your program.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Have you ever listen where did this? And you're like,
oh god, I love that?
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Where did? Where did this idea come up? For the
coffee in the underwear?
Speaker 3 (15:52):
I Like most things in my life, it started as
a joke because everyone was like streaming ship and I
was like, this is people are boring. So I we
did it out like I'm gonna stream do a live
shream and me making coffee in my underwear, and then
Dreamer message you mean, He's like you might as well.
Everyone else is doing shit. I was like, you know what,
fuck it? So I did one. I was like, let
(16:14):
me see, I'm just gonna do one and that'll be it.
And then I've been doing it for the past two years.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
I think it's brilliant.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
And he brings his mom on the show, and his
mom tells these stories that are hilarious and your facials
are great.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
I just enjoy her. I really I don't know.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
Maybe you know.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Okay, well, I can kind of tell with the.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Little uh the niche that she has going on there,
she's got.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
A nutge no.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
But it's it's a great concept and it's a fun show.
I've picked my head in a couple times, yees, I have.
I've been trying to come back, but with the juggling
the children. Sometimes, like I'll it'll be like eight forty
five and you're nine thirty right on Sundays, so I'll go, oh,
I have like forty five minutes, and I'll go say
(17:01):
hi to r J.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
And then I look at the clock and it's ted
forty seven. I'm like, I missed it.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
The old family can enjoy, bring the kids around, sit
them down.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
You drop that bombs a little too much for my children.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
So they should learn.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Now, would you be embarrassed if I was your.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Mother, if I had a No, I had a child,
I'd be like, I would never tell them that I
was a wrestler. I'd be like, don't YouTube me, don't
watch any of this.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
I don't put myself over in this house. No, I don't.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
No, No, you don't. As you sit in front of
for the this right.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
See, I told you you could be a dick. Sometimes
this is where it comes in.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
He's a bird. No, I listen when I have playdates.
These all come off the walls, right they do?
Speaker 3 (17:54):
And then the wall flips into like mom mode.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
I take them off manually and I put them in
the washer dryer room and no one sees anything. This
is how my life has been since I've had children.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
That is very secret identity of you. That is very uh.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
But what I don't want people, I don't need moms
google in me and then I have I walk in
and they go.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Is that what you're more concerned about? The moms or
the kids?
Speaker 2 (18:20):
No, the moms and the dads.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
I don't care about the kids that the dads are.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
The moms both. Well, I'm not going to go dressed
in something you know like this.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
No, you can wear something nice from mac, something sensible. No.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
I don't shop at teach I'm not there yet. Maybe
maybe when I'm fifty.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Sometimes they have good sales. I heard, and you're going
to be in Tampa.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Yet, I am.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Well, when I see you, we have some time. I
think there's a TJ Max that's closed if you're interested.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Oh my god, should we do a video of us
shopping at teaching?
Speaker 3 (18:54):
I would love to go to the outlets, the Tampa outlets.
I'm sure they're lovely.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
We're supposed to also make calls.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
I'm here. I feel like my hotel rooms is going
to be open and I'm gonna have coffee ready.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Oh my god, it's going to drop in.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
This is gonna be great that you're wearing a moo moo.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
I told him I wanted to wear a moo moo,
and he said that would be great because I.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Want to missus Roper.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
I want to be like.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Missus Roper, and I want to wear the flowing flower
and I want r J to be next to me
doing the giving the camera da iggy like mister Roper.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
It would be hilarious.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
I love. Did you know the reason he left the show?
Do you know about this?
Speaker 2 (19:34):
No?
Speaker 3 (19:35):
They did a spin off called The Ropers. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Like,
I don't want to do this because I'm a side
character and I'm going to get a spin off. It's
gonna fail, Like, no, no, you have to do it.
And he said, I'm only going to do it if
you promise me that if it fails, I can come back,
and they're like, so he leaves. They replace him with
don k Nott's obviously he does The Ropers. It's okay, yeah,
(19:58):
it's not my favorite, and then he tried to come
back and they're like, no, we have done not. So
they just made him a bunch of money and he
was very upset.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
I love mister Roper when he looks at that camera
and just gives the camera the iggy.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
It's life. It gives me life. I love. I know.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
I think I well, he was definitely born at the
wrong time, but I think I was too, because all
the old stuff is just the best.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
One more question, Yes, how did you.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
And David Orquette become this dynamic duo taking over Hollywood
and doing all this fantastic stuff together?
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Well again, through Twitter, he followed me and he kept replying,
if you go to my Twitter, it's on the top
of my I collected all the tweets. You can like
read it as it happens.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
So he pursued, you is what you're saying?
Speaker 3 (20:48):
He followed me and then he started replying to all
my stuff because his father was an actor. His grandfather
was an actor, right was on Hollywood twears.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Oh that's another classic.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Okay, So so he kept replying to all my tweets,
but like, not in an entertaining way, in an annoying way.
Adding to the conversation, he was he was a minus,
so I called him out and then they got into
quite a few and then I beat him, and yet
he seemed to fall in love with me in a
one that got away kind of way. And then he
(21:20):
promised me if I teamed with him, he would get
me on a talk show. And so far I've been
teeming with the is a real bird head.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
To be honest, we're still waiting for that talk show.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
To haven't been on anything. He tried to tell me
I was on Austin's podcast. He tried to tell me
that was a talk show. There was not a talk show.
It's a pot This isn't I've looked. This is a podcast.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
We're talking like Jimmy Kimmel, Jimmy fall In.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
That kind of stuff even entertained daytime the view, Ricky Lake.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Wendy Williams.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
I mean, we're not picky, no cab it whatever works
still around merv Griffin.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
My favorite Side Fell episode set.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Oh of course by far.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
I love that episode. See we're not even talking about wrestling.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
We're just nobody needs to talk about. I think wrestling
fans would be watched less and do more reading.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
I think, So do you want to plug anything?
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Google me and then you'll see a bunch of shit. Okay,
we're in the city, and then you know what, I
think you should get your kids, friends mothers to google
me and see what they think.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Well, okay, well I'm sure, I'm.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Yeah, I'm gonna have no problem.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
I I yeah, I put up a thing on He
tweeted something about moms and it was me, and I'm
gonna wear mom jeans to wrestle.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Yes, it's gonna be great coming back in style now.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
They they never went out of style, dear, They've been
in this house for years. I love them.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Tell your mother pick out your outfit for wrestle.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Actually, right now, I'm wearing my husband's sweatpants.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Oh wow, which are.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Not Look at these things.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
It's a party on the top of business on the bottom, right,
you never have to wear you only see from up here.
So I'm always wearing like the worst bottom part outfit
that I.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Can possibly find.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
But what you're saying, I'm pretty much the top. Yeah, yeah,
that sounds good.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
On that note, you're adorable. Thanks, thanks for coming. He
is a fan of mine. He sent me himself watching
me on television.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
By the way, Oh yes, and in the video game
there's an E c W video game, and I was like,
this is so I must.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
What my my three moves that they gave me. And
when you hear me getting punched in the stomach, they
told me, sound like you're throwing up.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Wow, that was my cue to Was that good? I
thought it was?
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Okay, Well, I hope to see you, uh during Russell Khan.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Let me know where you're gonna be.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Yes, well, I'm gonna just be walking around. Nobody's gonna
buy my ship. I'll be wandering around saying hi to people.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
You're gonna be selling out of your ship.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
And that's when you're gonna have to walk around because
you have no more merch left for me.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
I sold all my T shirts. Come on, give me.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
It was a pleasure. By the way.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
Hey man, good to talk to you. A Hey, it's
your show. I'm just here for the for the eye candy.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
So there you go.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Yes, he's he's the beauty on the brain. So well,
thank you for coming. Enjoy your Valentine's Day with yourself.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Or I will you have and a bottle of Durgons
and I'll have a swell time.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
I love it. Okay, thank you, doll.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Good bye, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
He's such a joy. She should be clicking it, Chad,
let me know. Yep, you got it.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
I'm waiting.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
So this guest is not only beautiful, that she is
a trendsetter in the world of professional wrestling.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
I look up to her so much. I finally got
to meet her at Starcast. I'm so excited to talk
to her today about her new project ending her career.
Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to Eyes up Here. Medusa.
There she is. You look beautiful.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
It's called.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
Fake eyelashes.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Look at you pulling out the eyelashes. Babe, who cares?
You look beautiful.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
I'm so happy to have you here, and I'm gonna
I'm gonna get into your story in a minute, but
I just want to say something real quick because I
find this so adorable. And I said it on Medusa's podcast.
I don't know if you didn't listen to that.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
It's new. When I was just getting into wrestling and training,
Medusa was I believe a lunder of blaze. At the time.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
She was doing a morning radio show in Philadelphia and
I called into the show and I asked her how
I can gain weight because I was training to wrestle,
and she was just like, eat a lot of rice.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
And then they cut me off and I was like,
thank you, and eat a lot of rice. Rice makes
you gain weight. So I was a fangirl back then,
and now I'm I can call her a friend of mine.
So I think I love just how this business is.
It's so crazy, so crazy. I love it.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Hey, I love it.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
What are you eating?
Speaker 5 (26:57):
Some spinach, parrots, blueberries?
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Look at that?
Speaker 5 (27:02):
You know?
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Too healthy? I'm gonna eat a peanut, butter and jelly
when this is all done. That's my deal.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Okay, So where do you want to start? Do you
want to start with who trained you? Just for people
who don't know? How'd you get into the business.
Speaker 5 (27:22):
I want to get back to the rice.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
How did it work?
Speaker 1 (27:26):
It really didn't because I didn't really eat it as
much as you told me to.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
But joys. When I went over to Japan, that's all
I had. Well, there was other things. So when I
was first there and I sat down at the table,
and they have the square plate and on the plate
it has like eight different little compartments and you open it,
you pick it up, you look at it. Well, the
main one looked kind of big, which is about as
(27:53):
big as the palm of my hand. And I opened
it up and I thought I was gonna get so
excited because I was so freaking hungry, and there was
a head staring at me. Oh right, I'm like, oh,
I gonna do this. I just signed like a three
year contract and oh my god, I gotta eat this ship.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
For the rest of my favorite. So I ate rice
and I gained.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
I think I went up to.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Oh wow, I was one ten what I was one.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Twenty year one ten?
Speaker 2 (28:30):
No when I started.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
When I started, I was one hundred and ten pounds
and I just I know, and I the most I
got up to was one seventeen. And I ate whatever
I wanted. Yeah, probably, but I uh, I ate whatever
I wanted. I didn't diet and I could not gain announce.
My metabolism was just so now forget it. Now, I'm
(28:55):
like whatever, but right, you know what.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
So I was just thinking, so this is this is cool.
This is your new podcast. By the way, congratulations my training.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Yes, I was.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
Going I was gonna go. I was going to school
to be a nurse. Okay, yeah, both figure. So I
was going to school to men bones, and then I
ended up breaking.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Them, breaking them, that's right.
Speaker 5 (29:21):
And then I a girlfriend of mine was dating this
guy who was a Hollywood stunt coordinator. He his name
was Kai U Kai Michaelson out of Minnesota, and he
introduced me to Edge Sharky out of Minnesota. I'm from Conserta. Yeah,
you bet you and so, and then it just yeah,
(29:43):
it just it just happened from there. I mean it
was crazy. I was like, I never dreamed about being
a wrestler, and and nowadays you see all these girls like,
you know, I want to be a wrestler, and all
the little ones grow up and that's all they ever
wanted to do, and I just fell into it. Really,
it's not something I planned on, Like today where it
(30:04):
is so nice because wrestling has evolved so much and
what we have done all the way from the past
from the very first women and every era had its
you know, had its niche had its place, and it
made it what it is today. Every single person that's
been involved has made it what it is today. Right,
So I just watch what it has become today because
(30:28):
now little girls and boys are like they dream of
being a pro wrestler, like they used to back in
my day saying, hey, I want to be a nurse
or a police officer.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
You know, right, well, how old were you? How old
were you when you started?
Speaker 5 (30:42):
H I don't know, my twenties somewhere, okay, yeah, my twenties.
And then I started doing independence and lived on the road.
Lost everything, didn't get paid for three years from the
independence nothing, lived in my car, lost. I mean, blah
(31:05):
blah blah film old hole home story.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Yeah she's Louise, Okay, what the hell.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
I had a few come to Jesus talks with myself
saying what the hell am I doing? I was going
to school, I had a nice car, I had a
bank account. By that time, I lost everything and then
they came and got my damn car because I was
living in my car. And then I was didn't anywhere
to go. And ma'am, I got a call from Wahoo
(31:34):
McDaniel in a w A. Okay, and he asked them,
this is Wahoo from Burggon here from a w A
and uh, you want to wrestle Sherry Martell. I'm like,
oh shit.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Awesome, Okay.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
So that's when things started to turn around for you,
And yeah, nice and then how long after that did
you get the call to go to events?
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (32:00):
It was intermittent, in and out doing different things.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Okay, you know, let's.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
See independence, Awa, came back from Japan. From Awa, went
to Japan for three years, came back, signed with w CW.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Right that they were first.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
Okay, w CW's first, and then I went to WWF
and then then I went back to w CW, and
then I retired. Yeah, that's what it was.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
You didn't retire, Terry Funk.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
You're just hey, hey, you know what was it like though,
to be called to come in to wrestle Sharry Martell?
Because it ended up really you kind of bridge the
gap between Sherry and then your era and beyond. Because really,
I think when people think about women's wrestling in the eighties,
they think Sharry Martel, and then when they think of
women's wrestling in the US and the nineties, they think
of you. So do you think when you got that
(33:00):
I called the face, Sherry, that you'd be ending up
looking like a trailblazer yourself down the road?
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Well?
Speaker 5 (33:05):
I knew that when I got into wrestling. I just
I don't do things half assed, So I knew that Hey,
if I was going to walk away from nursing, I'm
going to do something. So I did my diligence and
check the whole wrestling scene out and said, wow, I
got to change this. If I'm going in this, I
gotta change this. I gotta change this crap, right, I
gotta put a little glamer in there and do some
(33:27):
stuff and blah blah blah. But so when I did
go in there, I started wearing different clothing than the
women from the Sherry Martel days back. And what they
did is they had these shoe strings that were this long,
and they would sew them inside of the bathing suit
(33:48):
where the legs were, and they would go inside the
bathing suit and they would throw all these long shoe
strings all the way around their legs, and then they
would tie so tight underneath, and then they would tuck
them underneath, because God forbid any of your butt cheeks showed.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Right.
Speaker 5 (34:03):
That was against That was that was against. Yeah, that
was that was.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
Bad back then.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
And And here I come, I'm like, she, here I come,
and I got those lace crap, and I got the
tea bags coming on, and I thought, and I'm like, well,
I really don't want to turn into that. And I
but because I nothing against anything, I was like, I'm
a wrestler, dammit, but I gotta throw some sexism in here, right.
(34:29):
So I did that, and boy, Sherry, she ignored me.
She wouldn't go over the spots with me. She slammed
my fingers in the door. Oh my god. But Sherry,
I mean at the end of the day, at the
end of her life. Man, I mean we were best friends.
I mean not when I say best I mean we
were good friends. And I think I was the only
(34:51):
woman there at her funeral from the business.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Oh wow, so so and so was Jake.
Speaker 5 (34:57):
I think Jake and Marty and I think book I
think Booker was there.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
So it was a jealousy thing in the beginning, you think.
Speaker 5 (35:05):
And she was scared and here comes this new girl
from nowhere shaking shit up. She was scared. You know.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Wow, I didn't know that.
Speaker 5 (35:15):
It was kind of like when I was in WCW
and the shift was changing from wrestling to beautiful women.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
You know.
Speaker 5 (35:23):
I mean we're talking. All of a sudden it started happening,
and I was like, Okay, time is changing, this is
this isn't my time. This isn't me. I choose not
to wrestle this and so it's time for me to retire.
And that's when I retired in two thousand and one,
because when they started making me, you know, do the
(35:46):
barbecue matches and all the other crap, I was like,
you know, I just I just want to beat people up,
you know, I just want to wrestle. I want to
have a good match. I want stories. I will, but
I don't want it to involve someone rip it off
my close understood.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Let me ask you a question. So there's a video
out of a promo that was shot for ECW Television
of you and Sherry Martel at a hotel exchanging words.
Cherry gets up and leaves or did you leave? And
one of you were screaming at the other one. Why
(36:23):
did Why didn't that angle happen? Did you sign and
you couldn't you couldn't work for us? Is that what happened?
I went to WWL, So what was that.
Speaker 5 (36:34):
Ninety three ish?
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Okay?
Speaker 6 (36:38):
Because I said, yeah, and that video, that video is
out there and it's it's it's a great it's great
if chat.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
I don't know if you've ever seen it, but.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
It's I haven't seen it in a long time. I
know what you're talking about, but I have not seen
it in a very very long time.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Oh yeah, totally believable. It was great. It was great.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
And worry for you on that one.
Speaker 5 (37:01):
Okay, please, that's the first day, I believe when I
have a picture of her camera sitch, uh huh. When
she she was there and she had no makeup on her,
blonde hair, innocent as hell, young, and I remember she
(37:23):
came straight up to me and said, I want to
be just like you some day, you know, and I'll
never forget that she and I looked at her. I said, girl,
thank you, But.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Well that's flattering she was.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (37:41):
I mean yeah, she was very innocent then.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
And are you saying she's not innocent now?
Speaker 5 (37:47):
Are any of us?
Speaker 2 (37:51):
No? But I get it, yes we have. But we're
going to divert from that.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
And uh, I want to talk about your project, and
I know you want to talk about your project. I've
always got lots of projects, but anyway, well let's talk
about the big one that were.
Speaker 5 (38:11):
Here, my personal Revolution. So after I get done shoot
that blueberry often, let's go. So my Personal Revolution is
a project that I've been working on for some time.
And what it first started as is my biography. I've
(38:32):
been writing that for twenty twenty five years, and every
time I go to publish my book, something wonderful happens.
I'm like, Okay, I can't publish that yet because I
want to put this in it. This is part of
my life and story. So that happened three times. So
finally I've added quite a few things. And if you
think about it, with about eighteen years of pro wrestling
(38:57):
excuse me, and about eighteen years of Monster trucks, how
do you combine thirty two years and one book? Right?
You don't. So I have come up with how I'm
going to come up with my book, which is remarkable.
It is freaking fantastic, and that is finally going to
(39:19):
launch probably next year. So that being said, I thought, well,
documentaries are kind of happening and it would be a
great marketing tool to help jumpstart and bridge over to,
you know, help market the book. So what the docuseries
(39:41):
that we put together, it was just a fundraiser trailer.
It's not a trailer that's finished. It's the project's not finished.
We've we've got to have funds to do the project.
And if anyone knows, putting them you know, a big
you know, film whatever together is not cheap, but you
can give by with certain things. So I've been working
(40:02):
with a gentleman named Jason, and they put together. Him
and his team put together quite a few other little docuseriies,
web series and they've won awards in all these great
different placements, excuse me for the web series. So I
was introduced to him from Leilani Kai and I love
(40:28):
her to death. That's another whole story. And so him
and I've been working on this project for a while,
so it finally came to fruition. We put it up
on Indiegogo and it is my personal revolution. Check it out.
I think there's like forty days left and the perks
are amazing and it'll help people be a part of
(40:51):
this story. And this story is not only a little
girl that has overcome so many, so much trauma as
a child. I know a lot, and from trauma threw
her teens into young adult into this almost forty years
of entertainment and all the adversities that she's gone through
(41:13):
and still held it together. Gosh, never went to jail, never,
you know, decided on the drug factor.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
Never been.
Speaker 5 (41:23):
There's so many avenues that I chose to do that
I backed up on and totally chose other paths that
It is an amazing story. It's an amazing tragedy to triumph,
heroic story to help motivate and educate people of what
to do and what not to do and if you
(41:45):
do it, this is what does happen. How to overcome
really bad childhood trauma and have to face a few
things that I've kept very private my whole life. I'm
a very private purpose and then all of a sudden,
this damn internet shit started. So yeah, and then you know,
(42:05):
and then you become more vocal of course, So I'm
putting it out there. It's it's a six part series
of the docuseries web series, and it's pretty amazing. Yeah,
it'll be pretty cool. I mean, the stuff that's in
the fundraiser trailer. I don't know if you've seen it yet,
(42:28):
but there's a part in there where a little girl
who was the reenactment. Her name was Riley. Her name
is Riley. She plays me as a little girl and
spitting image of me. I was like, Wow, we've got
to hire her. Oh my God, perfect right. So she
did it a great job, and that moment when we
(42:49):
put that together, it was one of the most hardest
things I had to do and sit there and talk
about it, relive a situation and just had to have
a come of Jesus talk with myself and then tell
my family and you know, mother, and say, hey, I'm
(43:11):
putting this out there, and it's putting it out but
it's not about you. It's about me. It's not about
you or anybody else in my life. I mean, it's
about this story that this girl had to overcome. I
shouldn't even be here right now. Wait, if with this story,
if we come up with our funds, even either way,
if we do or don't, I'm still going to finish it.
(43:34):
And somehow, someway it may take longer. But there's just
unbelievable moments in my life, even through my career, that
I shouldn't be here.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
So I'm very.
Speaker 5 (43:47):
Lucky, thankful. I mean, the people that come in our
life are like seasons, you know, sometimes they change and
they need to go onward. And I've had a lot
of people that I've learned in my in this industry
that we're not my friends and I lost a lot
(44:08):
and I've never voiced it. I've never expressed it, i
never shared it. So it's a pretty cool stool story
where you just a girl overcomes all of this and
at the end you're like, oh, yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
You know, yes, Oh.
Speaker 5 (44:25):
And then I want to bring about the music. Oh
my god. So the music is going to be a
soundtrack and it's part of the perks and the people.
There's two there's a couple of different artists. And the
artist right now that here in the fundraiser trailer is freaking.
The rapper is amazing. It's Riley's dad, right. Oh wow, Yeah,
(44:46):
it's just like, what a fit it was?
Speaker 2 (44:49):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (44:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (44:50):
And then Nomad and Lola amazing husband and wife. Du oh.
He's from Cuba. And I just love to hand pick
people of diversity, you know, and just help all of
us collaborate and come together. It makes such an amazing,
beautiful team to think outside the box and give other
people chances and exposure, you know, right, help them grow
(45:12):
to something else. So amazing.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
When I think of Medusa or a Lundrablaze, I think
of this, this tough bitch who doesn't take any crap
from anyone, and then hearing you talk about this project,
everybody is gonna get to see a different side of
you that hasn't been shown before, which is very appealing
(45:36):
to our fans because everybody likes real life, you know
what I mean, And they have a story, right right, right?
He has a story. We all have a story, but
yours hasn't been told. You've been around for for a
long time and yours hasn't been told. So I think
a lot of people are going to be interested in
this project.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
So what they need to.
Speaker 5 (45:59):
Know, though, too, is that it's not a tattle tee.
This is not about for me to throw people under
the bus or you know, hey you did this, or
hey this road story and I'm going to tell you
about this person. I have a lot of them freaking stories. Sure,
that's not what this is about. This is not what
this biography is going to be. That's not what this
(46:20):
docu web series is going to be. It is freaking
the twist on It is amazing.
Speaker 3 (46:25):
Now.
Speaker 5 (46:26):
When I was going to come out with my book
in two thousand and one, I did write about this,
but I don't mention the person or anything. I remember
getting a phone call saying if you put me in
your book, I'm going to sue you. Yeah, that kind
of stuff. And I'm like, wow, you just gave me
more fuel.
Speaker 2 (46:47):
I know I have no names. No, no, you don't
have to say what you say what you're comfortable with here.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
I don't force anybody to talk about anything, but I
do find it interesting.
Speaker 5 (46:58):
Not anywhere, not in the book, not in the.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
Yeah, like at this stage in the game.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
Like for me, I just don't feel like burying people
is a cool thing to do.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
Like, what's it gonna do for me? It's not going
to do anything, So I just don't do it.
Speaker 5 (47:13):
I don't think it really gets you ahead. No, I
don't think it really jump starts anything. In fact, I
think it may put you back if few notches.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
Makes you look like a petty person.
Speaker 5 (47:26):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
Think you have rised above and I'm very, very excited
for this project. Tell us again, what where they can
help you out?
Speaker 5 (47:38):
Well, you can go to Indiegogo, okay, MEDUSA, and you
can just look at all the perks on there and
just take your break and if you can. All I
ask you guys to do is help share spread the
word on social media and that's great too. I mean
that's good love.
Speaker 1 (47:55):
And what what is your handle on Twitter so they
can come and see what you're talking about?
Speaker 5 (48:00):
Well, Medusa Underscore Rocks which is m A d U
sat and Medusa on Facebook, Instagram.
Speaker 1 (48:10):
Just yeah, okay, So what I'd like to do? This
is only our second real episode. I did it with Sandman.
He was our guest last week.
Speaker 2 (48:19):
I like he's wonderful. He was vaping the whole time. Yes,
he's awesome. I like to end on a high note.
Speaker 1 (48:29):
Do you have a funny story that you're comfortable with
sharing that could pop our listeners? Something to leave them
with that they can say, Well that Meduce is the
funniest checker something.
Speaker 5 (48:45):
There was this time.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
Yes, at fan camp.
Speaker 5 (48:52):
It almost parallels to that. But I was, oh no
because it's kind of personal. But I don't know her,
m M.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
Nobody's watching.
Speaker 1 (49:03):
It's just me and Chad, right, I can't.
Speaker 5 (49:09):
I mean, it was so fun it's in my book,
but I don't know to share it now.
Speaker 1 (49:14):
Do you have something that you can without pissing anyone off,
just anything that's funny.
Speaker 5 (49:20):
Well, my stories, everything that I've seen and heard remember
my time would probably piss a lot of people off.
Speaker 2 (49:25):
So any good ribs that were pulled that you remember.
Speaker 5 (49:32):
Anyway, ribs backstage, absolutely, so there you go. So we
would take the boots of the girls because we had
the real you know, the boots back then that came
up to your knees or whatever. And and I did glue.
There was birtha face. I super glued birth of face
(49:54):
shoes to or it was either a lunas or birth
I can't remember.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
Okay, Well that's mild compared to some of the things
I've heard.
Speaker 5 (50:06):
Well, there's a lot of things. It gets worse, nasty things.
They're just bad. Back in my era, it was horrible.
I mean, we would ride on the airplane, would be
all of us dudes, right, dudes and one dude that,
and then all I would see is then all passing
(50:26):
out for other reasons, not just because they were tired. Sure,
And I would always stay awake. I can never sleep
on an airplane. My eyes would be like this. Watching
these guys, I'm like, oh.
Speaker 2 (50:38):
Were you afraid that? Were you afraid you'd lose an eyebrow?
Speaker 5 (50:42):
Well, eyebrows and stuff like that. Huh. But then they
would paint lipstick, put makeup on the guys would put
they back in the day in the airplanes they had
in the bathroom, they had little co text boxes, right,
so they'd open up all the cotext boxes, rip off
all the strips and they put the Kotex.
Speaker 2 (51:03):
Very mature bunch of gentlemen here.
Speaker 5 (51:06):
Yeah, and who knows what they do now, I don't
you know.
Speaker 1 (51:12):
Yeah, we weren't uh e c W didn't have a
lot of ReBs going fairy minimal. Yeah, there there wasn't
a lot of rivers, Like I don't know, I think
we were.
Speaker 2 (51:24):
We were lucky in that aspect. We didn't really mess
with anybody.
Speaker 1 (51:28):
So I hear stories though, Oh my god, it was
the best. It was the it was the It sounds
so corny, but I say it all the time. It
was such a family, like we generally loved each other,
you know what I mean. And we were just talking
about it on the other episode, Like to this day,
(51:49):
we're still all close. We're still touring. We're like the
what do they call it, the Extreme Team and we're
still all touring together, like twenty years later, Like it's
it's crazy. We've kept in and it was.
Speaker 2 (52:03):
I did. There there were.
Speaker 1 (52:07):
Oh yeah, Yeah, I've talked about this. There was a
stretch where we did not get paid the checks. Either
you got paid in the check bounce or there was
just not a check for you. But for like ten
I think ten ten weeks, there was nothing. It was
like Christmas time. There was no money like it was.
(52:28):
It was really really bad. But when I went to
Paul and I discussed it with him, he gave me
all the money I was owed, plus all the bounce
check fees, so he made up for that. But I
did not get I was still owed about fifty thousand
dollars in the bankruptcy lawsuit, which I never got. I
(52:49):
don't think any of us got any money for money.
Speaker 2 (52:54):
Yeah, I'm sure. Let me do him a call.
Speaker 3 (52:57):
Sorry.
Speaker 2 (52:58):
Look, I I have never bad mouthed Paul, because without
Paul there'd be no Freezy.
Speaker 5 (53:08):
No. I wouldn't either.
Speaker 2 (53:09):
No, there's no there's no reason too.
Speaker 1 (53:11):
I mean, yeah, the money, I could use it, but
I mean, you know, it is what it is.
Speaker 2 (53:15):
Everything happens for a reason.
Speaker 1 (53:17):
I'm here because I'm supposed to be here, and it
all worked out for me.
Speaker 2 (53:22):
So no hard feelings.
Speaker 5 (53:23):
Well, yeah, that's not the route. I wanted to take
I was being funny with Paul. But yeah, but I've
had some great runs with Paul of course.
Speaker 2 (53:32):
Oh yeah, I know that.
Speaker 5 (53:34):
I owe a lot to Paul. Absolutely, He's always going
to be my guy.
Speaker 2 (53:37):
You know, you're Paul Hayman. Girl. There you go?
Speaker 5 (53:44):
Well, yeah, you were you the first girl?
Speaker 2 (53:48):
No, no, there were there. Well, Sharry was there when
I went.
Speaker 1 (53:54):
She was there, and like Cherry, I loved her like
I I wanted to be Sherry Martel, like I loved
her so much. And I remember meeting her at the
arena that night and she scared the hell out of
me because she came over and we started talking and
she was telling me about her trips to Japan and
(54:14):
how she would get all drunk and she's like, I
don't even remember what.
Speaker 2 (54:17):
We did in the ring. And then and then she's like,
and so when me and you work, and I'm just like,
oh my god, are you going to be drunk? Like
I'm twenty years old. I don't know what's going on,
you know. But that was Yeah, she told me some stories.
Speaker 1 (54:33):
But that was the only night I ever talked to her,
because after that night she went to WCW and she
did the Harlem heat thing.
Speaker 2 (54:40):
And never got to work with her.
Speaker 1 (54:42):
I met her one time, so Angle, yeah, yeah, so
but she was in. She was with Shane Douglas before
I was. She was his manager before me. I didn't
really yeah yeah, before her, there.
Speaker 4 (55:02):
Were well, Luna was there for a cup of coffee.
Speaker 1 (55:06):
Luna was there when I was there, though she came
in when I was already there. Uh, sand Man's wife
at the time, Peach, her name was Peaches.
Speaker 2 (55:14):
And uh who else was there? There was a girl
named Tigris.
Speaker 1 (55:21):
Uh, there was a girl named Angel amroso who I
had my tryout match with.
Speaker 2 (55:28):
I'm trying to think. Yeah, I don't, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (55:34):
I just that there was other But what about Dreamer's wife?
Wasn't he she there?
Speaker 1 (55:40):
She came a year and a half after I was there,
but she got on TV before me.
Speaker 3 (55:45):
Oh she was yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (55:48):
The the girls that I mentioned, like, the only one
that kind of hung around was Peaches, Sandman's wife, and
then she eventually left.
Speaker 2 (55:56):
But then it was like me and Bula were like
the two girls that.
Speaker 5 (56:02):
You're the only too I really remember. And then there
was intermittent other women, and then I think Nancy it
was like.
Speaker 2 (56:09):
Yeah, Nancy, I'm sorry Nancy.
Speaker 1 (56:11):
Oh my god, how did I forget Nancy? She was
there because she was married to Kevin Sullivan. How did
I forget her? I loved Nancy. Yeah, she was there,
she was great. Nancy was there before me, uh and
she was there after me for a little and then
she left and went to w c W two. You know,
everybody was getting the call with the big Bucks. But yeah,
(56:31):
we had we had a revolving door.
Speaker 2 (56:35):
Well, let me tell you compared to us big I
don't know. That's what I heard.
Speaker 5 (56:43):
Well, they slowly came. Hey, let me tell you from
what you made before and then going to w CW.
And if they offered you buck you know, seventy five thousand,
then okay.
Speaker 2 (56:53):
Right right, yeah, but they.
Speaker 5 (56:58):
Got you know, one point two mill.
Speaker 1 (57:00):
I know, I know, but like, guess what, I never
wanted to leave like I I would.
Speaker 2 (57:06):
I'd still be there.
Speaker 1 (57:07):
I'd probably be the ticket lady at this point, trying
to help.
Speaker 7 (57:10):
The sell tickets like I gotta.
Speaker 2 (57:14):
I would.
Speaker 1 (57:15):
I would do whatever, like I I always wanted to
work there, So I wish I wish we would have
had a chance to work together.
Speaker 2 (57:22):
I think that would have been so fun.
Speaker 5 (57:24):
Oh yeah, I would have put some clothes on your ass.
Speaker 1 (57:27):
I know, right, I had to get over somehow, honey,
you know, I'm just that's the way.
Speaker 2 (57:33):
But anyway, I'm not going to hold you kids, I do.
I know.
Speaker 1 (57:39):
My life is wonderful, don't get me wrong. I'm like
I said, I'm I'm right where I'm supposed to be
right now.
Speaker 5 (57:44):
So ten and seven, Oh my god, how old are you?
Speaker 2 (57:50):
I'm forty seven.
Speaker 5 (57:51):
Oh you look great.
Speaker 2 (57:56):
Chad's going to be thirty seven, and he feels like
he's an old man.
Speaker 4 (57:59):
Old man at thirty seven, man kill not liking it
at all, even once in a second, I could have
birthed your ass and you can still beat my ass.
Speaker 3 (58:12):
So you got that, right.
Speaker 2 (58:14):
So that's great. That is so great. I am so happy.
Speaker 1 (58:23):
Well, I'm so sad that at sarcast we didn't get
to hang out.
Speaker 5 (58:27):
I went and I was like, oh my god.
Speaker 2 (58:30):
I grabbed her and I was like, oh, I think
I helped you twice. I was so excited to finally
I've never met her in person, but we've talked, you know,
a bunch of times. So I was so happy to
finally meet you and hopefully if we do something else,
we can get.
Speaker 1 (58:45):
A drink or be able to just hang out aft cast.
Speaker 7 (58:50):
Yeah you got you had a feaver up for respiratory infection.
Whatever the hell was one hundred and four, Oh wow.
And then I went to the emergency room and I
was down for twelve days. So somebody had the freaking
plague there. And I'm coming for you.
Speaker 2 (59:06):
I love you, look up to you. I think you're wonderful, and.
Speaker 3 (59:14):
Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (59:16):
That's your son.
Speaker 1 (59:17):
Now you can call Chad your son. I'm your older sister.
About your mother, I'm your older sister. But thank you
so much for being here. I'm sure we'll talk again.
But good luck with everything, and we will plug the
hell out of your stuff and God bless make a
million bucks with it.
Speaker 3 (59:37):
Baby, Thank you appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
There back
He's a great talker, but he he's un.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Conventional in the ring. Let's so let's introduce r J C.
Does he have his does he have his coffee? And
is he?
Speaker 3 (00:28):
I go tears? There? Your tears there? You're drinking tea.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
I got tea. Yeah, I see the little tea. I
can't do a show without any kind of tea. So
this week I'm going straight green tea with a little.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Spilt the tea on this show. So we drink tea.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Prancine, you can have a n app. I want to
talk to Chad.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Okay, that's fine, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
You got you got your hat on, you got your
sunglasses on. You're in the house. What is the deal?
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Very funny right over to do you see the light
kind of beaming down to right inside.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
It's a little bit of.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Amick here, RJ. It's a little bit of the sad person.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Don't explain them? Is that the gimmick? What's that that?
The gimmick is that you wear accessories and don't explain them.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
No, because any time I need it, if I'm cool,
too cool for the room.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
I just did want to.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
And they bounce, it bounces off the screen. That's the
other reason. I can't pull him down because it bounces
right off.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
So listen, happy Valentine's stage.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
He is every Valentine's Day to you?
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Do we do we celebrate it? Or is it? Is
it something that you're just now you think it is?
You're not buying into it?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Well, what am I gonna do? Is there someone I
already love? Should know that I love them every other day?
Speaker 2 (01:36):
It's true, it's true.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Let me tell you something about this kid right here.
He I tell him all the time. We've only met twice.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
We met second time.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
You don't even you.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Don't even remember. I'm so heartbroken. I met you once
walking you guys were getting on the elevator.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Oh yeah, and I say, and I go, I go
like this, I go, Hi, I'm freezing. Yeah, I know
who you are. I'm like, excuse many hook, I am
just trying to be friendly. Yeah, I look at that face.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
And the second time he comes over and we chat
a little bit, and now I can't get rid of him.
He just haunts me every day in my life.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
I'm a big fan of her work. The Whole Route
Chap Dance with the Kindo Stick, It.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Was a lot.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Remember that one that was.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
I've done it all, kid, I've done it all.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
But let me tell you so, I told him looking
at him right, and I'm a big Disney Mark. He
is guessed on. Yeah, he is freaking guessed on. And
and where's that said that you were telling me? In
Florida that does the whole stick where you dress up
like a character and your wrestle.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Oh yeah, they go to like uh conventions, They go
to like uh, like comic book conventions, like comic cons
and things of that nature, and they have wrestlers dress
up as as people. But I had it. I did
have a different idea for that. Okay, I have an
alter ego and it like perhaps the way Finn Balor
has the demon I transform into zomb Arthur, and it
(03:07):
would be be Arthur back from the dead.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
I love it. Good.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
I got a question for you. I'm gonna go off
the rails. So I know you and I are big
fans of Match.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Game, Yes, you love it.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
We're also big.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Fans of Charles Nelson Riley and Brett Summers. And I
told him if we were ever together on Halloween, that's
our costume, Charles.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Like, ready to go. It's the thing I have in
my closet like Superman.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
I've seen him in his costume. It is unfreaking believable.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
So we watched that every day here because my mom's
going to be ninety years old and she has it
on every morning.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
And I heard a.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Good question, and I'm gonna and I'm gonna ask you,
and I know your answer is probably going to be
the same as mine. And I got healed by my mother,
who told me it wasn't nice.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
So it's strange to be married to a jeweler. For
our anniversary, he gave me a solid gold replica of
his blank.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
And then and I'm writing, I'm going home that market,
and then.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
You and I would be answering, because we'd be sitting next.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
To you would say do you have? And I would
show you mine. Oh, that's what I was thinking too,
And I or I.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
That's such a shit answer. You better, you could do
better than that.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Yeah. And then below us, Richard Dawson would be making
eyes at some gallon the front row.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Yes, and they'd be throwing cards at us to try
and help us. But what would your answer be?
Speaker 3 (04:29):
I would say his schwan's.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
I said his penis, I said penis out loud, and
my mother healed me.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
You can't say that.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Sorry, everything, with everything that has been on your resume,
your mother's going to give you ship now for saying.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
She's given me ship for thirty years about everything.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
So she's not stopping. It's okay, she's allowed.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
She's one question. If I may turn this around, you
may had a very uh and I don't mean this
as a pun of extreme career. Was there any moment
when your mother went, you know what, I'm proud of
that wrestling stuff.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
When I used to wear shirts that would like start
here and then she'd be okay with it, but like
this kind of attire showing a little too much skin.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
See, it's pretty girl. You don't have to show your
chest exactly. You're pretty.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Such motherly instinct.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
My mother says the same thing in regards to me
and my genitalia.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Well, that's because you bring your mother on your your
coffee show where you're in your underwear with your bird
kind of peeking out, and you know, it's kind of
hard when you have when you're naked.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
And your mom sometimes it has a mind of a tone.
We all have heards.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Have you ever heard of be referred to as a bird,
or am I the only person on the earth house?
Speaker 3 (05:46):
I've never heard of it?
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Jesus, is that like a pilly thing or something? When
I grew up, it.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Was called the bird, the bird, and then so far
noan something else entirely, I suppose so.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
But when you were a little kid and like the
penis is, oh God, put your bird away, like right?
Speaker 3 (06:03):
And when you were in high school you go to
the mall and go bird watching.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
I said, now look at his bird. It's so big.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Yes, that's why you go to the park and bread
in your pocket.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Anyway, So are you? You never answered me? Are you
the Twinings guy?
Speaker 3 (06:19):
The Twinnings guy?
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Yes? Did you do the Twinings commercial?
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Oh no, oh my god, me too.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yeah, it looks exactly like you.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
It's not me, unfortunately, dah Man, I thought it was.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Have you seen the Twinings commercial with the man with
the white hair and he's like, oh, he's supposed to
be back in like the Eh what, I don't even
know for.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Such a tea conn of source that yourself?
Speaker 4 (06:46):
How much of a TV? Not much of a TV
watcher these days?
Speaker 2 (06:48):
I swear at you, it looks exactly.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Like you all right, So yeah, I'm going to deny
all the controversial rumors. I am not the Twinnings man.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Damn it. I thought I was on the thing. Oh
r Jay. I kind of asked this to everybody.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
If you want to tell me, fine, if you want
to put a spin on it, a funny spin, you can.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
How did you get involved in this wacky business because
you're young.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
You're still young. I'm sixty two. Yeah, I don't remember
not wanting to do it.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
So you grew up as a fan?
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Yeah yeah, okay, this and the Muppet Show and as No,
it's the same shit. Okay, it's the exact same thing.
What years between the One Man Gang and gone?
Speaker 1 (07:33):
What year did you start? Seriously, like, let's just be
one moment in time. It's don't say nineteen seventy three, startet,
start working, training, working.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Oh I have, I said, like I guess, And you're
dish ten years in a bit. So you're a vet, sure, a.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Grizzle old vet like myself.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Is that grizzled or.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
I would think he was.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
I mean, we take care of our skins. We don't
look like it.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Oh my god, I did this thing on the phone
and it said my.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Skin was thirty four years old, and I I was
taken aback.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
I was so excited because you.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Know, wonderful. Also, it's also because you stepped away for
a bit and it gave you a little rejuvenation.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
It's pretty you're I think you're right, but.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Hard you would look like Greg Valentine with.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Well, not really.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
I didn't a party hard, that's the difference. I wasn't
a partier and I never smoked that smoke.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
And I'll kill you.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
By the way, I would assume it like ECW in
that time, there must have been a tremendous amount of
secondhand Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
But see, I tried to get away from it.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
I literally would try to get away from everything because
you know, confined space, lots of good.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
I don't really party either. I feel like, oh, like
all the public belligerent yelling that I would do at
a party, I do it at a wrestling show.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
So I'm done my yelling for the week after a show.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Well, I was trying to explain the chad like, how
unconventional you are in a good way, in a good way, right.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
The convention is shitty, So yeah, you.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Have to you have to see a match to understand
what I'm talking about. What do you think? And I
know what you're going to say, but I want the
people to hear it.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Okay, what do you think about Cornett's rant about this
day and age with you? And well, not specifically you,
but like the Joey Ryan's out there and the comedy.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
So I tweeted him only once because I see because
I see stuff and I'm like this mother, and but
I try to control myself because I have a life
to lead.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
But he said something about theater and he said, you
never go to a Broadway show and they break the
fourth wall. I'm like, wait a minute. Now I had
to speak gone, that's too far. So that was like
my tipping point as the theater representative of wrestling. I
had to be like, wait a minute. So I said,
listen they you know that happens all the time. And
(10:09):
then he came back with some tirade that made no sense.
It was a string of insults that are not even his,
which bothers me. They're over rolling insults. And I said,
you know, I know that this is a gimmick, but
you are purposely misusing information to play some side and
get controversy, and I said, with respect, take your own
(10:33):
dick and pick it up your own ass.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
And then he came back with all these insults that
were strung together in a way that made no sense,
and I was like, I'm I'm done. Here were no no,
And I don't know. Maybe maybe he respects me. Who knows,
But I will say, in my astute research, it has
been dead for like seventy five years, so I don't
(11:00):
really know what this guy is necessarily talking about.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
I feel like that all those guys that came up
in that era, yes, they kind of all have the
same mentality, like a lot of them don't adapt to.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
The change in times.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
I think what you guys do is brilliant because number one,
your bodies are going to feel great, like down the line,
better than most. Let's put it that because you're still bumping.
It's not like you don't take a bump. No, that's okay.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
I'd feel like good.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
But of course, of course, if I went another way
in life, i'd feel like, you know, I'm twenty, I
feel like I'm one hundred.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
But that's another story.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
I think if everybody did the same thing, going to
a show would be boring, right, So you have entertainers
that come out and can work but used to do
a different style, and it adds so much to the show.
Like as a fan of the sport, I appreciate that because.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
It's not always the same, the same, the same. I
like varieties.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
So I don't get everybody getting up in arms about
like the comedy Gaga spots or you know, the one
the one match that is actually entertaining and funny, but
you're not killing yourself. You're not really doing the art
of wrestling like it doesn't I don't get it.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
No. First of all, wrestling has been very comedic for
a very long time, right in spots, Yes, yeah, yeah. Also,
the concept is ridiculous. They're really that bad. I think
we can all agree.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
On this, I think, so I'll agree with it.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
I can consider myself perhaps a digestive between the other matches.
You know, when you go to a wine tasting and
they'll give you a cracker in between the glasses of wine.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
You're the palette cleansing portion. That's okay, But I enjoyed.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
That, yes, and so does everyone on the show. Because
you can't have a string of the same stuff all
the time.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
If I go to a show and I see the
exact same match for eight matches, yeah, why am I there?
Speaker 2 (13:17):
I want variety.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
If you went to the circus and it was just
three hours of the Lions.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Yeah exactly, we'll see you get it, and and that's
why you do what you do.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
But I just you know, as I you know, I
don't perform that much anymore.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
I'm I'm like, I'm like that uh, that special attraction
that's at the carnival.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
I pop in every once in a while. You're on
the scene, you're working a lot.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Yeah, yeah, the dead Dead Woman walking of course.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Sure, But you're you're You're out there. People are reacting
to you.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
You're you're all. I was telling Chad, You're all over
social media.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
You know, you're Google me once in a while.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
I mean I've seen I've seen your name, you know,
I mean I know the name his what.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Are you buddy?
Speaker 1 (14:01):
A piece of shit shirt? Like when that first came out,
I popped so huge. I was like, this is brilliant
because people are going to relate to it, and and
you've sold so.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Much people many people buy it that are not wrestling
fans because it's an every day it got.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
It's a universal statement that life. It could apply to wrestling,
it could apply to your job. It could apply to
your shitty kids, or your shitty pet, or your shitty life.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
It's universal. It's brilliant. I loved it. I loved it.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
I'm telling you you found a good niche and I
like I very much.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Enjoy it, and I like to pronounce it niche. But
that's weird.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Niche, niche, niche, it's niche.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Why are you uncomfortable saying niche?
Speaker 2 (14:50):
I'm not I always thought it isn't niche.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
You grew up in the wrong neighborhood.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
I grew up at Catholic schools. They we didn't talk
like a niche. Okay, see I learned something. Well, thank you.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
You go either way.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
No people say I could say. I could say both,
to put on your sunglasses, Chad and take a stand here,
and then I'll go niche. How about like that?
Speaker 1 (15:20):
I just I just think that you're trying to make
me feel very inferior.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Well, it's which is what you do, that is your
this is your.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Story, and I'm inclimidated. Well strike out.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
I'm going to say something. I love your mother.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Oh thank you.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Your mother brings so much light to your program.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Have you ever listen where did this? And you're like,
oh god, I love that?
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Where did? Where did this idea come up? For the
coffee in the underwear?
Speaker 3 (15:52):
I Like most things in my life, it started as
a joke because everyone was like streaming ship and I
was like, this is people are boring. So I we
did it out like I'm gonna stream do a live
shream and me making coffee in my underwear, and then
Dreamer message you mean, He's like you might as well.
Everyone else is doing shit. I was like, you know what,
fuck it? So I did one. I was like, let
(16:14):
me see, I'm just gonna do one and that'll be it.
And then I've been doing it for the past two years.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
I think it's brilliant.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
And he brings his mom on the show, and his
mom tells these stories that are hilarious and your facials
are great.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
I just enjoy her. I really I don't know.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
Maybe you know.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Okay, well, I can kind of tell with the.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Little uh the niche that she has going on there,
she's got.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
A nutge no.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
But it's it's a great concept and it's a fun show.
I've picked my head in a couple times, yees, I have.
I've been trying to come back, but with the juggling
the children. Sometimes, like I'll it'll be like eight forty
five and you're nine thirty right on Sundays, so I'll go, oh,
I have like forty five minutes, and I'll go say
(17:01):
hi to r J.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
And then I look at the clock and it's ted
forty seven. I'm like, I missed it.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
The old family can enjoy, bring the kids around, sit
them down.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
You drop that bombs a little too much for my children.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
So they should learn.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Now, would you be embarrassed if I was your.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Mother, if I had a No, I had a child,
I'd be like, I would never tell them that I
was a wrestler. I'd be like, don't YouTube me, don't
watch any of this.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
I don't put myself over in this house. No, I don't.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
No, No, you don't. As you sit in front of
for the this right.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
See, I told you you could be a dick. Sometimes
this is where it comes in.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
He's a bird. No, I listen when I have playdates.
These all come off the walls, right they do?
Speaker 3 (17:54):
And then the wall flips into like mom mode.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
I take them off manually and I put them in
the washer dryer room and no one sees anything. This
is how my life has been since I've had children.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
That is very secret identity of you. That is very uh.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
But what I don't want people, I don't need moms
google in me and then I have I walk in
and they go.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Is that what you're more concerned about? The moms or
the kids?
Speaker 2 (18:20):
No, the moms and the dads.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
I don't care about the kids that the dads are.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
The moms both. Well, I'm not going to go dressed
in something you know like this.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
No, you can wear something nice from mac, something sensible. No.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
I don't shop at teach I'm not there yet. Maybe
maybe when I'm fifty.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Sometimes they have good sales. I heard, and you're going
to be in Tampa.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Yet, I am.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Well, when I see you, we have some time. I
think there's a TJ Max that's closed if you're interested.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Oh my god, should we do a video of us
shopping at teaching?
Speaker 3 (18:54):
I would love to go to the outlets, the Tampa outlets.
I'm sure they're lovely.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
We're supposed to also make calls.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
I'm here. I feel like my hotel rooms is going
to be open and I'm gonna have coffee ready.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Oh my god, it's going to drop in.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
This is gonna be great that you're wearing a moo moo.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
I told him I wanted to wear a moo moo,
and he said that would be great because I.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Want to missus Roper.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
I want to be like.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Missus Roper, and I want to wear the flowing flower
and I want r J to be next to me
doing the giving the camera da iggy like mister Roper.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
It would be hilarious.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
I love. Did you know the reason he left the show?
Do you know about this?
Speaker 2 (19:34):
No?
Speaker 3 (19:35):
They did a spin off called The Ropers. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Like,
I don't want to do this because I'm a side
character and I'm going to get a spin off. It's
gonna fail, Like, no, no, you have to do it.
And he said, I'm only going to do it if
you promise me that if it fails, I can come back,
and they're like, so he leaves. They replace him with
don k Nott's obviously he does The Ropers. It's okay, yeah,
(19:58):
it's not my favorite, and then he tried to come
back and they're like, no, we have done not. So
they just made him a bunch of money and he
was very upset.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
I love mister Roper when he looks at that camera
and just gives the camera the iggy.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
It's life. It gives me life. I love. I know.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
I think I well, he was definitely born at the
wrong time, but I think I was too, because all
the old stuff is just the best.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
One more question, Yes, how did you.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
And David Orquette become this dynamic duo taking over Hollywood
and doing all this fantastic stuff together?
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Well again, through Twitter, he followed me and he kept replying,
if you go to my Twitter, it's on the top
of my I collected all the tweets. You can like
read it as it happens.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
So he pursued, you is what you're saying?
Speaker 3 (20:48):
He followed me and then he started replying to all
my stuff because his father was an actor. His grandfather
was an actor, right was on Hollywood twears.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Oh that's another classic.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Okay, So so he kept replying to all my tweets,
but like, not in an entertaining way, in an annoying way.
Adding to the conversation, he was he was a minus,
so I called him out and then they got into
quite a few and then I beat him, and yet
he seemed to fall in love with me in a
one that got away kind of way. And then he
(21:20):
promised me if I teamed with him, he would get
me on a talk show. And so far I've been
teeming with the is a real bird head.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
To be honest, we're still waiting for that talk show.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
To haven't been on anything. He tried to tell me
I was on Austin's podcast. He tried to tell me
that was a talk show. There was not a talk show.
It's a pot This isn't I've looked. This is a podcast.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
We're talking like Jimmy Kimmel, Jimmy fall In.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
That kind of stuff even entertained daytime the view, Ricky Lake.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Wendy Williams.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
I mean, we're not picky, no cab it whatever works
still around merv Griffin.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
My favorite Side Fell episode set.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Oh of course by far.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
I love that episode. See we're not even talking about wrestling.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
We're just nobody needs to talk about. I think wrestling
fans would be watched less and do more reading.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
I think, So do you want to plug anything?
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Google me and then you'll see a bunch of shit. Okay,
we're in the city, and then you know what, I
think you should get your kids, friends mothers to google
me and see what they think.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Well, okay, well I'm sure, I'm.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Yeah, I'm gonna have no problem.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
I I yeah, I put up a thing on He
tweeted something about moms and it was me, and I'm
gonna wear mom jeans to wrestle.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Yes, it's gonna be great coming back in style now.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
They they never went out of style, dear, They've been
in this house for years. I love them.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Tell your mother pick out your outfit for wrestle.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Actually, right now, I'm wearing my husband's sweatpants.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Oh wow, which are.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Not Look at these things.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
It's a party on the top of business on the bottom, right,
you never have to wear you only see from up here.
So I'm always wearing like the worst bottom part outfit
that I.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Can possibly find.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
But what you're saying, I'm pretty much the top. Yeah, yeah,
that sounds good.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
On that note, you're adorable. Thanks, thanks for coming. He
is a fan of mine. He sent me himself watching
me on television.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
By the way, Oh yes, and in the video game
there's an E c W video game, and I was like,
this is so I must.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
What my my three moves that they gave me. And
when you hear me getting punched in the stomach, they
told me, sound like you're throwing up.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Wow, that was my cue to Was that good? I
thought it was?
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Okay, Well, I hope to see you, uh during Russell Khan.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Let me know where you're gonna be.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Yes, well, I'm gonna just be walking around. Nobody's gonna
buy my ship. I'll be wandering around saying hi to people.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
You're gonna be selling out of your ship.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
And that's when you're gonna have to walk around because
you have no more merch left for me.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
I sold all my T shirts. Come on, give me.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
It was a pleasure. By the way.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
Hey man, good to talk to you. A Hey, it's
your show. I'm just here for the for the eye candy.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
So there you go.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Yes, he's he's the beauty on the brain. So well,
thank you for coming. Enjoy your Valentine's Day with yourself.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Or I will you have and a bottle of Durgons
and I'll have a swell time.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
I love it. Okay, thank you, doll.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Good bye, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
He's such a joy. She should be clicking it, Chad,
let me know. Yep, you got it.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
I'm waiting.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
So this guest is not only beautiful, that she is
a trendsetter in the world of professional wrestling.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
I look up to her so much. I finally got
to meet her at Starcast. I'm so excited to talk
to her today about her new project ending her career.
Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to Eyes up Here. Medusa.
There she is. You look beautiful.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
It's called.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
Fake eyelashes.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Look at you pulling out the eyelashes. Babe, who cares?
You look beautiful.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
I'm so happy to have you here, and I'm gonna
I'm gonna get into your story in a minute, but
I just want to say something real quick because I
find this so adorable. And I said it on Medusa's podcast.
I don't know if you didn't listen to that.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
It's new. When I was just getting into wrestling and training,
Medusa was I believe a lunder of blaze. At the time.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
She was doing a morning radio show in Philadelphia and
I called into the show and I asked her how
I can gain weight because I was training to wrestle,
and she was just like, eat a lot of rice.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
And then they cut me off and I was like,
thank you, and eat a lot of rice. Rice makes
you gain weight. So I was a fangirl back then,
and now I'm I can call her a friend of mine.
So I think I love just how this business is.
It's so crazy, so crazy. I love it.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Hey, I love it.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
What are you eating?
Speaker 5 (26:57):
Some spinach, parrots, blueberries?
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Look at that?
Speaker 5 (27:02):
You know?
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Too healthy? I'm gonna eat a peanut, butter and jelly
when this is all done. That's my deal.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Okay, So where do you want to start? Do you
want to start with who trained you? Just for people
who don't know? How'd you get into the business.
Speaker 5 (27:22):
I want to get back to the rice.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
How did it work?
Speaker 1 (27:26):
It really didn't because I didn't really eat it as
much as you told me to.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
But joys. When I went over to Japan, that's all
I had. Well, there was other things. So when I
was first there and I sat down at the table,
and they have the square plate and on the plate
it has like eight different little compartments and you open it,
you pick it up, you look at it. Well, the
main one looked kind of big, which is about as
(27:53):
big as the palm of my hand. And I opened
it up and I thought I was gonna get so
excited because I was so freaking hungry, and there was
a head staring at me. Oh right, I'm like, oh,
I gonna do this. I just signed like a three
year contract and oh my god, I gotta eat this ship.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
For the rest of my favorite. So I ate rice
and I gained.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
I think I went up to.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Oh wow, I was one ten what I was one.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Twenty year one ten?
Speaker 2 (28:30):
No when I started.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
When I started, I was one hundred and ten pounds
and I just I know, and I the most I
got up to was one seventeen. And I ate whatever
I wanted. Yeah, probably, but I uh, I ate whatever
I wanted. I didn't diet and I could not gain announce.
My metabolism was just so now forget it. Now, I'm
(28:55):
like whatever, but right, you know what.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
So I was just thinking, so this is this is cool.
This is your new podcast. By the way, congratulations my training.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Yes, I was.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
Going I was gonna go. I was going to school
to be a nurse. Okay, yeah, both figure. So I
was going to school to men bones, and then I
ended up breaking.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Them, breaking them, that's right.
Speaker 5 (29:21):
And then I a girlfriend of mine was dating this
guy who was a Hollywood stunt coordinator. He his name
was Kai U Kai Michaelson out of Minnesota, and he
introduced me to Edge Sharky out of Minnesota. I'm from Conserta. Yeah,
you bet you and so, and then it just yeah,
(29:43):
it just it just happened from there. I mean it
was crazy. I was like, I never dreamed about being
a wrestler, and and nowadays you see all these girls like,
you know, I want to be a wrestler, and all
the little ones grow up and that's all they ever
wanted to do, and I just fell into it. Really,
it's not something I planned on, Like today where it
(30:04):
is so nice because wrestling has evolved so much and
what we have done all the way from the past
from the very first women and every era had its
you know, had its niche had its place, and it
made it what it is today. Every single person that's
been involved has made it what it is today. Right,
So I just watch what it has become today because
(30:28):
now little girls and boys are like they dream of
being a pro wrestler, like they used to back in
my day saying, hey, I want to be a nurse
or a police officer.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
You know, right, well, how old were you? How old
were you when you started?
Speaker 5 (30:42):
H I don't know, my twenties somewhere, okay, yeah, my twenties.
And then I started doing independence and lived on the road.
Lost everything, didn't get paid for three years from the
independence nothing, lived in my car, lost. I mean, blah
(31:05):
blah blah film old hole home story.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Yeah she's Louise, Okay, what the hell.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
I had a few come to Jesus talks with myself
saying what the hell am I doing? I was going
to school, I had a nice car, I had a
bank account. By that time, I lost everything and then
they came and got my damn car because I was
living in my car. And then I was didn't anywhere
to go. And ma'am, I got a call from Wahoo
(31:34):
McDaniel in a w A. Okay, and he asked them,
this is Wahoo from Burggon here from a w A
and uh, you want to wrestle Sherry Martell. I'm like,
oh shit.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Awesome, Okay.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
So that's when things started to turn around for you,
And yeah, nice and then how long after that did
you get the call to go to events?
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (32:00):
It was intermittent, in and out doing different things.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Okay, you know, let's.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
See independence, Awa, came back from Japan. From Awa, went
to Japan for three years, came back, signed with w CW.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Right that they were first.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
Okay, w CW's first, and then I went to WWF
and then then I went back to w CW, and
then I retired. Yeah, that's what it was.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
You didn't retire, Terry Funk.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
You're just hey, hey, you know what was it like though,
to be called to come in to wrestle Sharry Martell?
Because it ended up really you kind of bridge the
gap between Sherry and then your era and beyond. Because really,
I think when people think about women's wrestling in the eighties,
they think Sharry Martel, and then when they think of
women's wrestling in the US and the nineties, they think
of you. So do you think when you got that
(33:00):
I called the face, Sherry, that you'd be ending up
looking like a trailblazer yourself down the road?
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Well?
Speaker 5 (33:05):
I knew that when I got into wrestling. I just
I don't do things half assed, So I knew that Hey,
if I was going to walk away from nursing, I'm
going to do something. So I did my diligence and
check the whole wrestling scene out and said, wow, I
got to change this. If I'm going in this, I
gotta change this. I gotta change this crap, right, I
gotta put a little glamer in there and do some
(33:27):
stuff and blah blah blah. But so when I did
go in there, I started wearing different clothing than the
women from the Sherry Martel days back. And what they
did is they had these shoe strings that were this long,
and they would sew them inside of the bathing suit
(33:48):
where the legs were, and they would go inside the
bathing suit and they would throw all these long shoe
strings all the way around their legs, and then they
would tie so tight underneath, and then they would tuck
them underneath, because God forbid any of your butt cheeks showed.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Right.
Speaker 5 (34:03):
That was against That was that was against. Yeah, that
was that was.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
Bad back then.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
And And here I come, I'm like, she, here I come,
and I got those lace crap, and I got the
tea bags coming on, and I thought, and I'm like, well,
I really don't want to turn into that. And I
but because I nothing against anything, I was like, I'm
a wrestler, dammit, but I gotta throw some sexism in here, right.
(34:29):
So I did that, and boy, Sherry, she ignored me.
She wouldn't go over the spots with me. She slammed
my fingers in the door. Oh my god. But Sherry,
I mean at the end of the day, at the
end of her life. Man, I mean we were best friends.
I mean not when I say best I mean we
were good friends. And I think I was the only
(34:51):
woman there at her funeral from the business.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Oh wow, so so and so was Jake.
Speaker 5 (34:57):
I think Jake and Marty and I think book I
think Booker was there.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
So it was a jealousy thing in the beginning, you think.
Speaker 5 (35:05):
And she was scared and here comes this new girl
from nowhere shaking shit up. She was scared. You know.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Wow, I didn't know that.
Speaker 5 (35:15):
It was kind of like when I was in WCW
and the shift was changing from wrestling to beautiful women.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
You know.
Speaker 5 (35:23):
I mean we're talking. All of a sudden it started happening,
and I was like, Okay, time is changing, this is
this isn't my time. This isn't me. I choose not
to wrestle this and so it's time for me to retire.
And that's when I retired in two thousand and one,
because when they started making me, you know, do the
(35:46):
barbecue matches and all the other crap, I was like,
you know, I just I just want to beat people up,
you know, I just want to wrestle. I want to
have a good match. I want stories. I will, but
I don't want it to involve someone rip it off
my close understood.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Let me ask you a question. So there's a video
out of a promo that was shot for ECW Television
of you and Sherry Martel at a hotel exchanging words.
Cherry gets up and leaves or did you leave? And
one of you were screaming at the other one. Why
(36:23):
did Why didn't that angle happen? Did you sign and
you couldn't you couldn't work for us? Is that what happened?
I went to WWL, So what was that.
Speaker 5 (36:34):
Ninety three ish?
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Okay?
Speaker 6 (36:38):
Because I said, yeah, and that video, that video is
out there and it's it's it's a great it's great
if chat.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
I don't know if you've ever seen it, but.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
It's I haven't seen it in a long time. I
know what you're talking about, but I have not seen
it in a very very long time.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Oh yeah, totally believable. It was great. It was great.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
And worry for you on that one.
Speaker 5 (37:01):
Okay, please, that's the first day, I believe when I
have a picture of her camera sitch, uh huh. When
she she was there and she had no makeup on her,
blonde hair, innocent as hell, young, and I remember she
(37:23):
came straight up to me and said, I want to
be just like you some day, you know, and I'll
never forget that she and I looked at her. I said, girl,
thank you, But.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Well that's flattering she was.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (37:41):
I mean yeah, she was very innocent then.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
And are you saying she's not innocent now?
Speaker 5 (37:47):
Are any of us?
Speaker 2 (37:51):
No? But I get it, yes we have. But we're
going to divert from that.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
And uh, I want to talk about your project, and
I know you want to talk about your project. I've
always got lots of projects, but anyway, well let's talk
about the big one that were.
Speaker 5 (38:11):
Here, my personal Revolution. So after I get done shoot
that blueberry often, let's go. So my Personal Revolution is
a project that I've been working on for some time.
And what it first started as is my biography. I've
(38:32):
been writing that for twenty twenty five years, and every
time I go to publish my book, something wonderful happens.
I'm like, Okay, I can't publish that yet because I
want to put this in it. This is part of
my life and story. So that happened three times. So
finally I've added quite a few things. And if you
think about it, with about eighteen years of pro wrestling
(38:57):
excuse me, and about eighteen years of Monster trucks, how
do you combine thirty two years and one book? Right?
You don't. So I have come up with how I'm
going to come up with my book, which is remarkable.
It is freaking fantastic, and that is finally going to
(39:19):
launch probably next year. So that being said, I thought, well,
documentaries are kind of happening and it would be a
great marketing tool to help jumpstart and bridge over to,
you know, help market the book. So what the docuseries
(39:41):
that we put together, it was just a fundraiser trailer.
It's not a trailer that's finished. It's the project's not finished.
We've we've got to have funds to do the project.
And if anyone knows, putting them you know, a big
you know, film whatever together is not cheap, but you
can give by with certain things. So I've been working
(40:02):
with a gentleman named Jason, and they put together. Him
and his team put together quite a few other little docuseriies,
web series and they've won awards in all these great
different placements, excuse me for the web series. So I
was introduced to him from Leilani Kai and I love
(40:28):
her to death. That's another whole story. And so him
and I've been working on this project for a while,
so it finally came to fruition. We put it up
on Indiegogo and it is my personal revolution. Check it out.
I think there's like forty days left and the perks
are amazing and it'll help people be a part of
(40:51):
this story. And this story is not only a little
girl that has overcome so many, so much trauma as
a child. I know a lot, and from trauma threw
her teens into young adult into this almost forty years
of entertainment and all the adversities that she's gone through
(41:13):
and still held it together. Gosh, never went to jail, never,
you know, decided on the drug factor.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
Never been.
Speaker 5 (41:23):
There's so many avenues that I chose to do that
I backed up on and totally chose other paths that
It is an amazing story. It's an amazing tragedy to triumph,
heroic story to help motivate and educate people of what
to do and what not to do and if you
(41:45):
do it, this is what does happen. How to overcome
really bad childhood trauma and have to face a few
things that I've kept very private my whole life. I'm
a very private purpose and then all of a sudden,
this damn internet shit started. So yeah, and then you know,
(42:05):
and then you become more vocal of course, So I'm
putting it out there. It's it's a six part series
of the docuseries web series, and it's pretty amazing. Yeah,
it'll be pretty cool. I mean, the stuff that's in
the fundraiser trailer. I don't know if you've seen it yet,
(42:28):
but there's a part in there where a little girl
who was the reenactment. Her name was Riley. Her name
is Riley. She plays me as a little girl and
spitting image of me. I was like, Wow, we've got
to hire her. Oh my God, perfect right. So she
did it a great job, and that moment when we
(42:49):
put that together, it was one of the most hardest
things I had to do and sit there and talk
about it, relive a situation and just had to have
a come of Jesus talk with myself and then tell
my family and you know, mother, and say, hey, I'm
(43:11):
putting this out there, and it's putting it out but
it's not about you. It's about me. It's not about
you or anybody else in my life. I mean, it's
about this story that this girl had to overcome. I
shouldn't even be here right now. Wait, if with this story,
if we come up with our funds, even either way,
if we do or don't, I'm still going to finish it.
(43:34):
And somehow, someway it may take longer. But there's just
unbelievable moments in my life, even through my career, that
I shouldn't be here.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
So I'm very.
Speaker 5 (43:47):
Lucky, thankful. I mean, the people that come in our
life are like seasons, you know, sometimes they change and
they need to go onward. And I've had a lot
of people that I've learned in my in this industry
that we're not my friends and I lost a lot
(44:08):
and I've never voiced it. I've never expressed it, i
never shared it. So it's a pretty cool stool story
where you just a girl overcomes all of this and
at the end you're like, oh, yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
You know, yes, Oh.
Speaker 5 (44:25):
And then I want to bring about the music. Oh
my god. So the music is going to be a
soundtrack and it's part of the perks and the people.
There's two there's a couple of different artists. And the
artist right now that here in the fundraiser trailer is freaking.
The rapper is amazing. It's Riley's dad, right. Oh wow, Yeah,
(44:46):
it's just like, what a fit it was?
Speaker 2 (44:49):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (44:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (44:50):
And then Nomad and Lola amazing husband and wife. Du oh.
He's from Cuba. And I just love to hand pick
people of diversity, you know, and just help all of
us collaborate and come together. It makes such an amazing,
beautiful team to think outside the box and give other
people chances and exposure, you know, right, help them grow
(45:12):
to something else. So amazing.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
When I think of Medusa or a Lundrablaze, I think
of this, this tough bitch who doesn't take any crap
from anyone, and then hearing you talk about this project,
everybody is gonna get to see a different side of
you that hasn't been shown before, which is very appealing
(45:36):
to our fans because everybody likes real life, you know
what I mean, And they have a story, right right, right?
He has a story. We all have a story, but
yours hasn't been told. You've been around for for a
long time and yours hasn't been told. So I think
a lot of people are going to be interested in
this project.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
So what they need to.
Speaker 5 (45:59):
Know, though, too, is that it's not a tattle tee.
This is not about for me to throw people under
the bus or you know, hey you did this, or
hey this road story and I'm going to tell you
about this person. I have a lot of them freaking stories. Sure,
that's not what this is about. This is not what
this biography is going to be. That's not what this
(46:20):
docu web series is going to be. It is freaking
the twist on It is amazing.
Speaker 3 (46:25):
Now.
Speaker 5 (46:26):
When I was going to come out with my book
in two thousand and one, I did write about this,
but I don't mention the person or anything. I remember
getting a phone call saying if you put me in
your book, I'm going to sue you. Yeah, that kind
of stuff. And I'm like, wow, you just gave me
more fuel.
Speaker 2 (46:47):
I know I have no names. No, no, you don't
have to say what you say what you're comfortable with here.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
I don't force anybody to talk about anything, but I
do find it interesting.
Speaker 5 (46:58):
Not anywhere, not in the book, not in the.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
Yeah, like at this stage in the game.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
Like for me, I just don't feel like burying people
is a cool thing to do.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
Like, what's it gonna do for me? It's not going
to do anything, So I just don't do it.
Speaker 5 (47:13):
I don't think it really gets you ahead. No, I
don't think it really jump starts anything. In fact, I
think it may put you back if few notches.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
Makes you look like a petty person.
Speaker 5 (47:26):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
Think you have rised above and I'm very, very excited
for this project. Tell us again, what where they can
help you out?
Speaker 5 (47:38):
Well, you can go to Indiegogo, okay, MEDUSA, and you
can just look at all the perks on there and
just take your break and if you can. All I
ask you guys to do is help share spread the
word on social media and that's great too. I mean
that's good love.
Speaker 1 (47:55):
And what what is your handle on Twitter so they
can come and see what you're talking about?
Speaker 5 (48:00):
Well, Medusa Underscore Rocks which is m A d U
sat and Medusa on Facebook, Instagram.
Speaker 1 (48:10):
Just yeah, okay, So what I'd like to do? This
is only our second real episode. I did it with Sandman.
He was our guest last week.
Speaker 2 (48:19):
I like he's wonderful. He was vaping the whole time. Yes,
he's awesome. I like to end on a high note.
Speaker 1 (48:29):
Do you have a funny story that you're comfortable with
sharing that could pop our listeners? Something to leave them
with that they can say, Well that Meduce is the
funniest checker something.
Speaker 5 (48:45):
There was this time.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
Yes, at fan camp.
Speaker 5 (48:52):
It almost parallels to that. But I was, oh no
because it's kind of personal. But I don't know her,
m M.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
Nobody's watching.
Speaker 1 (49:03):
It's just me and Chad, right, I can't.
Speaker 5 (49:09):
I mean, it was so fun it's in my book,
but I don't know to share it now.
Speaker 1 (49:14):
Do you have something that you can without pissing anyone off,
just anything that's funny.
Speaker 5 (49:20):
Well, my stories, everything that I've seen and heard remember
my time would probably piss a lot of people off.
Speaker 2 (49:25):
So any good ribs that were pulled that you remember.
Speaker 5 (49:32):
Anyway, ribs backstage, absolutely, so there you go. So we
would take the boots of the girls because we had
the real you know, the boots back then that came
up to your knees or whatever. And and I did glue.
There was birtha face. I super glued birth of face
(49:54):
shoes to or it was either a lunas or birth
I can't remember.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
Okay, Well that's mild compared to some of the things
I've heard.
Speaker 5 (50:06):
Well, there's a lot of things. It gets worse, nasty things.
They're just bad. Back in my era, it was horrible.
I mean, we would ride on the airplane, would be
all of us dudes, right, dudes and one dude that,
and then all I would see is then all passing
(50:26):
out for other reasons, not just because they were tired. Sure,
And I would always stay awake. I can never sleep
on an airplane. My eyes would be like this. Watching
these guys, I'm like, oh.
Speaker 2 (50:38):
Were you afraid that? Were you afraid you'd lose an eyebrow?
Speaker 5 (50:42):
Well, eyebrows and stuff like that. Huh. But then they
would paint lipstick, put makeup on the guys would put
they back in the day in the airplanes they had
in the bathroom, they had little co text boxes, right,
so they'd open up all the cotext boxes, rip off
all the strips and they put the Kotex.
Speaker 2 (51:03):
Very mature bunch of gentlemen here.
Speaker 5 (51:06):
Yeah, and who knows what they do now, I don't
you know.
Speaker 1 (51:12):
Yeah, we weren't uh e c W didn't have a
lot of ReBs going fairy minimal. Yeah, there there wasn't
a lot of rivers, Like I don't know, I think
we were.
Speaker 2 (51:24):
We were lucky in that aspect. We didn't really mess
with anybody.
Speaker 1 (51:28):
So I hear stories though, Oh my god, it was
the best. It was the it was the It sounds
so corny, but I say it all the time. It
was such a family, like we generally loved each other,
you know what I mean. And we were just talking
about it on the other episode, Like to this day,
(51:49):
we're still all close. We're still touring. We're like the
what do they call it, the Extreme Team and we're
still all touring together, like twenty years later, Like it's
it's crazy. We've kept in and it was.
Speaker 2 (52:03):
I did. There there were.
Speaker 1 (52:07):
Oh yeah, Yeah, I've talked about this. There was a
stretch where we did not get paid the checks. Either
you got paid in the check bounce or there was
just not a check for you. But for like ten
I think ten ten weeks, there was nothing. It was
like Christmas time. There was no money like it was.
(52:28):
It was really really bad. But when I went to
Paul and I discussed it with him, he gave me
all the money I was owed, plus all the bounce
check fees, so he made up for that. But I
did not get I was still owed about fifty thousand
dollars in the bankruptcy lawsuit, which I never got. I
(52:49):
don't think any of us got any money for money.
Speaker 2 (52:54):
Yeah, I'm sure. Let me do him a call.
Speaker 3 (52:57):
Sorry.
Speaker 2 (52:58):
Look, I I have never bad mouthed Paul, because without
Paul there'd be no Freezy.
Speaker 5 (53:08):
No. I wouldn't either.
Speaker 2 (53:09):
No, there's no there's no reason too.
Speaker 1 (53:11):
I mean, yeah, the money, I could use it, but
I mean, you know, it is what it is.
Speaker 2 (53:15):
Everything happens for a reason.
Speaker 1 (53:17):
I'm here because I'm supposed to be here, and it
all worked out for me.
Speaker 2 (53:22):
So no hard feelings.
Speaker 5 (53:23):
Well, yeah, that's not the route. I wanted to take
I was being funny with Paul. But yeah, but I've
had some great runs with Paul of course.
Speaker 2 (53:32):
Oh yeah, I know that.
Speaker 5 (53:34):
I owe a lot to Paul. Absolutely, He's always going
to be my guy.
Speaker 2 (53:37):
You know, you're Paul Hayman. Girl. There you go?
Speaker 5 (53:44):
Well, yeah, you were you the first girl?
Speaker 2 (53:48):
No, no, there were there. Well, Sharry was there when
I went.
Speaker 1 (53:54):
She was there, and like Cherry, I loved her like
I I wanted to be Sherry Martel, like I loved
her so much. And I remember meeting her at the
arena that night and she scared the hell out of
me because she came over and we started talking and
she was telling me about her trips to Japan and
(54:14):
how she would get all drunk and she's like, I
don't even remember what.
Speaker 2 (54:17):
We did in the ring. And then and then she's like,
and so when me and you work, and I'm just like,
oh my god, are you going to be drunk? Like
I'm twenty years old. I don't know what's going on,
you know. But that was Yeah, she told me some stories.
Speaker 1 (54:33):
But that was the only night I ever talked to her,
because after that night she went to WCW and she
did the Harlem heat thing.
Speaker 2 (54:40):
And never got to work with her.
Speaker 1 (54:42):
I met her one time, so Angle, yeah, yeah, so
but she was in. She was with Shane Douglas before
I was. She was his manager before me. I didn't
really yeah yeah, before her, there.
Speaker 4 (55:02):
Were well, Luna was there for a cup of coffee.
Speaker 1 (55:06):
Luna was there when I was there, though she came
in when I was already there. Uh, sand Man's wife
at the time, Peach, her name was Peaches.
Speaker 2 (55:14):
And uh who else was there? There was a girl
named Tigris.
Speaker 1 (55:21):
Uh, there was a girl named Angel amroso who I
had my tryout match with.
Speaker 2 (55:28):
I'm trying to think. Yeah, I don't, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (55:34):
I just that there was other But what about Dreamer's wife?
Wasn't he she there?
Speaker 1 (55:40):
She came a year and a half after I was there,
but she got on TV before me.
Speaker 3 (55:45):
Oh she was yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (55:48):
The the girls that I mentioned, like, the only one
that kind of hung around was Peaches, Sandman's wife, and
then she eventually left.
Speaker 2 (55:56):
But then it was like me and Bula were like
the two girls that.
Speaker 5 (56:02):
You're the only too I really remember. And then there
was intermittent other women, and then I think Nancy it
was like.
Speaker 2 (56:09):
Yeah, Nancy, I'm sorry Nancy.
Speaker 1 (56:11):
Oh my god, how did I forget Nancy? She was
there because she was married to Kevin Sullivan. How did
I forget her? I loved Nancy. Yeah, she was there,
she was great. Nancy was there before me, uh and
she was there after me for a little and then
she left and went to w c W two. You know,
everybody was getting the call with the big Bucks. But yeah,
(56:31):
we had we had a revolving door.
Speaker 2 (56:35):
Well, let me tell you compared to us big I
don't know. That's what I heard.
Speaker 5 (56:43):
Well, they slowly came. Hey, let me tell you from
what you made before and then going to w CW.
And if they offered you buck you know, seventy five thousand,
then okay.
Speaker 2 (56:53):
Right right, yeah, but they.
Speaker 5 (56:58):
Got you know, one point two mill.
Speaker 1 (57:00):
I know, I know, but like, guess what, I never
wanted to leave like I I would.
Speaker 2 (57:06):
I'd still be there.
Speaker 1 (57:07):
I'd probably be the ticket lady at this point, trying
to help.
Speaker 7 (57:10):
The sell tickets like I gotta.
Speaker 2 (57:14):
I would.
Speaker 1 (57:15):
I would do whatever, like I I always wanted to
work there, So I wish I wish we would have
had a chance to work together.
Speaker 2 (57:22):
I think that would have been so fun.
Speaker 5 (57:24):
Oh yeah, I would have put some clothes on your ass.
Speaker 1 (57:27):
I know, right, I had to get over somehow, honey,
you know, I'm just that's the way.
Speaker 2 (57:33):
But anyway, I'm not going to hold you kids, I do.
I know.
Speaker 1 (57:39):
My life is wonderful, don't get me wrong. I'm like
I said, I'm I'm right where I'm supposed to be
right now.
Speaker 5 (57:44):
So ten and seven, Oh my god, how old are you?
Speaker 2 (57:50):
I'm forty seven.
Speaker 5 (57:51):
Oh you look great.
Speaker 2 (57:56):
Chad's going to be thirty seven, and he feels like
he's an old man.
Speaker 4 (57:59):
Old man at thirty seven, man kill not liking it
at all, even once in a second, I could have
birthed your ass and you can still beat my ass.
Speaker 3 (58:12):
So you got that, right.
Speaker 2 (58:14):
So that's great. That is so great. I am so happy.
Speaker 1 (58:23):
Well, I'm so sad that at sarcast we didn't get
to hang out.
Speaker 5 (58:27):
I went and I was like, oh my god.
Speaker 2 (58:30):
I grabbed her and I was like, oh, I think
I helped you twice. I was so excited to finally
I've never met her in person, but we've talked, you know,
a bunch of times. So I was so happy to
finally meet you and hopefully if we do something else,
we can get.
Speaker 1 (58:45):
A drink or be able to just hang out aft cast.
Speaker 7 (58:50):
Yeah you got you had a feaver up for respiratory infection.
Whatever the hell was one hundred and four, Oh wow.
And then I went to the emergency room and I
was down for twelve days. So somebody had the freaking
plague there. And I'm coming for you.
Speaker 2 (59:06):
I love you, look up to you. I think you're wonderful, and.
Speaker 3 (59:14):
Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (59:16):
That's your son.
Speaker 1 (59:17):
Now you can call Chad your son. I'm your older sister.
About your mother, I'm your older sister. But thank you
so much for being here. I'm sure we'll talk again.
But good luck with everything, and we will plug the
hell out of your stuff and God bless make a
million bucks with it.
Speaker 3 (59:37):
Baby, Thank you appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
There back
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