108: My Fifteen Minutes with Judy Reyes

JD and Turk save a cameraman's life in this week's episode. But, Turk doesn't like when he's made to be poster minority for the hospital. In real life Donald and Zach are joined by Carla, aka Judy Reyes,

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Holy cow, I got so many things to say. I
got so many things to say. I'm so excited about
this episode, Zackly, you have no idea. This is a
big episode. This is a very good episode. By the way,
Judy came for a good one. Yeah. Not only is
it a big episode, but this is Listen, man, I
feel like I didn't know what I had when I
had it. You know what I mean. Carla and Turk,

(00:22):
Carla and Turk. Oh my gosh, Oh my gosh. You
want to talk about our good relationship on television, and
you want to talk about a relationship, especially at the
time that we were filming it. I really needed a
relationship like that. Granted, I found the woman of my dreams.
She lives in the same house as me. She's downstairs
right now watching our children. But when I think of

(00:43):
Turk and Carla, i'm I think of Carla and you too, Judy,
as like an ax of mine. Even though it was
just work, even though we were working together, It's like,
I have so many fond memories and I ruined it
and I and I spoiled it by the show going
off the air, and then we were no longer together.

(01:06):
And I don't see her anymore. So when you see
Judy now, do you have this get the vapors? As
as as Bismarck. He said, I caught the vapors. Oh
my god. When I'm watching Scrubs now, I'm like, oh
my gosh, she's so fine. What was I thinking? What
did I do? How did I let that go? You know?
That's okay? Carla always knew it. Yeah, And when do

(01:27):
I have to do to get this guy to see
what he has? He always you, always here and she
always said it right. Carl always says, like, if holy
when is he going to love me the way he
loves j D. Here's some stories about show we made
about nurses. Can I said, he's a stories around here? Yeah,

(01:56):
around here. M So listen for all of you guys
who are listening right now, you probably why don't you
properly introduce your TV A stupendous the right word, yes, stupendous, stupendous, fantastic,
the fantastic, the legend that is Judy Ray is on

(02:19):
Fake Doctors and Real Friends today. We're so excited about it.
Give it up, incredibly introduction. This is where we insert thunder.
I've had a loss of words. You have no idea?
How how excited I am that you are here. I'm
excited for you guys. I'm excited for the show. You
guys got bumped up to two shows a week. I
can't even catch up. Well, we've been having fun. We

(02:39):
never thought anyone would really listen. We thought it would
be maybe our parents. Donald's mom doesn't even listen to
my mom. I don't think she's ever listened to I
know she hasn't listened. You know how I know she
hasn't listened. This is how I know she hasn't listened,
because I'll be like, mom, and I've already said on
the podcast, I don't think my mom ever listens to
the show. Right, I was like, Mom, have you listened
to the podcast? She's like, yeah, I listened to it
all the time. And the way I know that she

(03:00):
hasn't and she hasn't been like, she hasn't called me
and been like, I listened to your podcast? She has
no idea. Yeah, isn't that the story of the show.
There was like congratulations, but nobody's watched the show until
like twenty years later, when now it's like a legend.
Television folklore where everybody's like, oh my god, you don't
understand I grew up on your show, and the it's like, wow, okay,

(03:22):
right when you hear that, it's like, well, how come
y'all didn't show up in the ratings then that well,
they did in the beginning. I was just looking back.
This is back in two thousand when there was no
streaming competition and people actually did watch the show. I mean,
there were a lot of people watching the show in
the beginning, especially you know, we we we always joked
that we barely survived, that we were always moving around
time slots and everything. But this was still like at

(03:42):
a time when Joel you can correct me if I'm wrong,
but I think like eleven million people or something we're
watching these episodes when we followed Yeah, when we followed Frasier,
we were at eleven or ten million. But when this
season two or three, when we started following Friends, we
at one point we had liken million people watching our show.
I don't know, but it's just so funny. You never

(04:03):
get no one ever gets numbers like that anymore. But
back in two thousand one, you could have eleven million
people watch your TV shows. Well, because there were only
three television networks right there was ABC, NBCCBS and like
Fox and and Fox and then show Time and HBO.
There were only a certain number of shows that you
can watch. And now, you know, like we were saying before,
people are actually coming to us and texting us and

(04:27):
through social media letting us know that we particularly in
these times, that our show literally changed their lives and
influence and affected the choices that they made um for
a living. And that's really really moving. Yeah, so yeah,
you're absolutely right. It feels so warm and fuzzy inside
when you know you read your comments and you post

(04:49):
a picture of your kids and stuff like that, and
they're like, that doesn't look like Carla. Yeah, Donald always
gets that look like Carla had them kids. That's why
I always I'm always like wow that the show hits
so hard and so many people that when I post
pictures of my family or post pictures, you know, of

(05:12):
us at a holiday, and you know, during holiday, the
first thing that comes up that don't look like Carla.
I was working when I started working in out of state,
which is right after Scrubs where all shows are being
shot like in Vancouver or Atlanta or Neural is it so,

(05:34):
Judy wait, I was gonna say, Donald, if you don't mind,
and um, Judy, We've we've been asking everyone that comes
on the show, all the cast members, their their auditions story,
because I think listeners are imagine interested in that. I
hope they're interested in that, but maybe I don't really
know yours. I know Donald Sarah's. So I'd love to
hear your story about how the script initially came to

(05:57):
you and what your audition process was like in New
York and was working I had done gosh, I don't
know I've done like this was must have been like
my seventh pilot audition. I've done all about six pilots
before this that never went that never got picked up.
So by the time I got to this one, I
was just like, you know, ready for it not to

(06:19):
go as well. But it was such a good pilot
and and Carla had these two great monologues in the
in the pilot one where where I go off right
and whenere I go off on Dr cox Um. And
I was, you know, I was part of a theater company,
and I was just so prepared to just nail it
and walk out and get a and I got you know,
you get a flee free flight to l A. You

(06:40):
had to stay in a fancy hotel, but the most
important thing was to just like work on it really
hard and go get out of the room feeling good. Wait,
you weren't living in You weren't living in Los Angeles? No, No,
I was in New York. I was living in New York.
Was your first audition at at thirty rock or something for? Yeah,
my first edition was at Dirty Rock and I did

(07:01):
really well. And all I just kept getting was these
feedback from my manager, Gene Fox. You're a manager? Was yes, yes, um,
not at this, not doing this, but you were not
at this time. But yes, But we did have the
same manager back in the day yet when we were younger, right,
because she most mostly represented kids and I always played
really young and earlier in my career. But I remember

(07:21):
being really excited to get this flight to l A
and staying in a fancy hotel and all this stuff,
and uh and uh. I remember somebody giving me a
note to tell its like, before you start your your scene,
just take his breath and look at everybody in the
room and then start right. So I just that's good advice. Hey,
and I, and I really did, and I felt and

(07:43):
they were like, think three other women, did you know them?
I didn't know anybody. I just remember who was the
casting director for that. I knew the casting director because
I auditioned him all the time. And and I didn't
even know any of the actresses, which was strange because
all Latina actresses don't know each other. And I think
I was the only one from La who was flown
in and I felt like I had a really good chance,

(08:04):
but I didn't attach myself to anything. Um, what scenes
did you do? Do you remember what scenes you did?
From the pilot? All the scenes that Carla had, which
was like the one where I go he hits something
and the one to Dr Cox. I don't remember any
of this stuff. Don't worry. Don't worry, Donald, I don't
remember anything either. I watched this episode that we're talking

(08:25):
about twice, yes, same here, because I remember. I what
I remember it is like in the first season, I
had this one big, big episode with you where we
go to see that to the photography exhibit that's called
my nickname, And I was sure that that's the what
we're going to talk about today, Like, wait a minute,
we're not doing my nickname. No, No, we were one
one time. One day. Judy will get more organized and

(08:45):
like book people for the times they have their big episode.
But I think you have a really nice arc in
this episode. So I do, and that's why I wanted
it was like, this is really great. I'm excited to
talk about. We just want to have you on. But
I but I remember taking that moment and looking at
all these people. It's like in my head, I was like, funk,
there's a lot of people in here. And I looked
at all of them. I was like, no pressure, right,
and they just fell out laughing and build the loudest

(09:09):
and I felt really relaxed and I just they laughed
at every single thing I did. And I was like,
I'm fine. And I walked to the elevator and before
I got to the elevator, the casting and I I
wanted to tell you something. Hold on a second before
they call the other girl, and I was like, you're good.
I was like, oh, oh shit, like when you like

(09:30):
remember it was Brett or Debbie, one of those yeah,
and she took you aside. She took me aside. At
the elevator. I was like amazing. You would really good,
And I said I wasn't sure what that meant, but
I was like and by the time I got to
the airport, I was like, you got it. That's so awesome.
Oh my god. So on your way back, how much
did you drink in celebration? I was like, They were like,

(09:54):
do you want a champagne or orange juice? Or I
was like, can I have them both in one glass?
It's just like most. I was like, yeah, that's give
me one of those. And I was like, you want
to know. IM was like yeah, oh man, that's amazing.
And then so you had to go back to well
it was just the pilot, so I guess you you

(10:15):
weren't planning on moving. You just kind of came out
for the pilot, then came out for it, came out
for the pilot, and then you know, by the time
we got picked up. Okay, so do you remember upfront
at all? I didn't. I get hammered, And that's what
I'm asking. We all did, But that's what I'm asking.
Do you remember I remember being um on a switch.

(10:36):
Donald told this story where you're on But it was
more than a swings, you guys. It was for some reason,
this bar we were in had a trapeez in it.
It's really not safe. I want to swing and my
and my ex husband had to take me home. Yes,
I remember who was the executive, tall guy and he
he had a snot on his nose and I was like,

(10:58):
you got a booger? And you were like and Bill
was so impressed. It was like you the only person
I know who would tell, like the head of a
network that he has. I was like, but what don't
you what don't you want to know? Yourse? I loved it.
On one side of that party, Donald's giving Jeff Sucker
a noogie. On the other side of the party, you're

(11:18):
telling another executive he has a booger on his nose.
And Bill had told us all like, guys, do not
get too drunk at this party. Just couldn't be important
executives here. We got wasted. Sarrow was wasted. Do you
remember her famous phrase, Judy At that party, she she
walked up, had a Cosmopolitan. It's so good. I was

(11:39):
like she was she was walking sideways. I just remember
she was like on a diagonal. I told her. I
was like, I like, um, martinize, you know what my friend,
Richard Petros Sally says about Martiniz. Martiniz are like one's
not enough, threes too many? I want that on a

(12:04):
T shirt. What was your first impression of meeting Donald? Like,
because you knew he was going to be your your
love interest? And then I did you meet him at
the table read thing that we did at Bill's house?
Did I go to the table read? Maybe? Because maybe
because you flew in? So where did you meet Donald?
I met him on set? That's I told you this story, dude, Like,

(12:27):
I want to hear it for Judy. Sorry that we
had that makeout scene. We had the makeout scene and
you had smoked cigarettes right before. Donald's already complained that
you were smoking. Yes, and of course, okay, but since
then we smoked so many cigarettes together. But what I
do remember is that we had that makeout scene and
I was completely I felt Donald. This Donald, You what

(12:49):
you see is what you get. He's the sweetest, kindest, relaxed,
but very professional guy, right and I felt very comfortable
with Donald. And we had this makeout scene and I
don't think that I've ever had a kissing scene like
that before. We're, you know, we're just like making out
and I stuck my tongue at his mouth. Yeah, and

(13:10):
then he went and then everybody who did that a lot,
and then Donald started with Judy. Didn't Donald start walking
around bragging everyone like I got but the first time.
I did it the first time, right away, right immediately.
But but he told like the whole fun and then
he ruined it for nine years. But the whole time,
the rest of it, the rest. But because I was embarrassed,

(13:34):
I was embarrassed. This motherfucker goes it goes. Yo, you
stuck your tongue in my mouth. I wasn't supposed to
do that. I didn't know. So Donald, you in one moment,
you have this beautiful woman, she's giving you first on
screen kiss, and then you blab about it and then

(13:57):
you never got tongue again, did you. Well, no, she
did it a couple of times. Hold on, now, yeah
you did. I could, I could show you the episode
because I remember one episode we're making out and the
girl I was dating at the time was like, well,
this is awkward, and it was. And it was like
the scene where we're supposed to be making out, it
is supposed to be a wet, sloppery kiss. And stuff

(14:18):
like that, and j D even says something about that
about our making out because scripted, right, but you know
what I did that wasn't that girlfriend mature slower than
than girls do. It's just that simple women were sure faster.
I just remember thinking like I would never brad it out,

(14:39):
not gonna I remember thinking like, that's not gonna end. Well, Donald, no,
it did. It didn't. Well immediately, no, But that was
really embarrassed about it, because it just it was. It
was just instinctual. I was like, okay, so before Donald,
before Donald ruined it, it was a good kiss. I
imagine it's a good kiss. I'm a great oh ship

(15:01):
Donald up. I did suck up many years. Like I said,
I look back at it now, like what was I thinking? Dude?
What a dummy? Listen. The whole crew was was like
what are you thinking? Yeah, it's like that thing in
Scrubs where they where they get the opera singer who

(15:21):
goes mister that Kevin Sorbos, that Kevin Sorbo story. Have
you heard that? Which one is that one? You know
how they put in parentheses the direction that you're supposed
to do, and then underneath it usually is the line, Yeah,
the parenthetical, right, and in that it said disappointed. That

(15:45):
was like the last thing underneath the line that he has,
so like the line was something like, this isn't my world,
this isn't my place. And then in that thing it
says it says disappointed. So he's supposed to say all
of this disappointed, and he it's trying to figure out
a way to muster up the disappointment. Now this is
all folklore, this is all this might not be true,

(16:06):
and he trying to figure out out a way to
mustard up. He goes disappointed. I love those Hollywood stories
where you hear something in some actor said you have
no idea what's true or not, but they're they're funny
to hear. I know one with Christina Ricci. Apparently she

(16:26):
was I have no again, I have no idea this
is true. But I heard the story that she was
getting all this direction, the director was going into all
this elaborate stuff, and she looked at him and said,
look more happy or more sad at the end of
the day, right, which, when you think about it, it's
pretty great. It's pretty Let's just just break it all down.
Do you want it more happy or do you want
it more sad? That's very Wednesday of her. Yeah, I

(16:46):
don't want to hear your elaborate Your direction is so confusing.
Do you want me happy or Saturday? But I know
the day that's like very Carla and Turk, isn't it.
It's like, why are you doing? You just ruined it
for the rest of our relationship. Well, you were such
a you two had such a great relationship on the show,
and I think so many people were genuinely invested in

(17:07):
you too, which is just such a testament to how
how good your chemistry was and of course how good
both of your performances were, but just so so cute also,
like just so like Carla and Turk together was like
that's definite relationship goals for me, Like if my relationship
was like that. But you know, it's so much so
that it kind of is like that when you when

(17:29):
you really think about it, you know, my wife is
the boss of this, you know what I mean. Carla
was the boss, you know what I mean all the
way up into how she made the guy ask her out,
you know what I mean, She got him to the
point where he was she offered sex to him, and
he declined, you know what I mean. He declined because

(17:51):
he was afraid to ruin the relationship because he saw
where it was going, you know what I mean. And
that's just so particularly in this episode where Carla foks
up so bad and she goes to Turk, where he's
exemplary more than where Carla talks a lot, and she uh,
she she's just strong, which she falls apart, and she

(18:12):
goes to him and she sees what he does, you know,
he walks the walk and she just does what he
does at the end of the day, you know, and
she sees, she sees how strong um Turk is as well,
and she she goes by his example. Jude, do you
think that you um, I mean, I'm sure this has
come up for you and I hear it all the
time that you inspired a lot of people to become nurses,

(18:34):
which must be a pretty incredible thing, because I just
I when I watched the show, especially now back and
having some experience in hospitals with with sick family members,
I'm so aware of the power of the nurses and
how the nurses are running the whole show. And to me,
when I rewatched this, Carla was just just the exemplar
of of of the most amazing nurse there ever was.

(18:54):
And I just wonder what your experience of of people
men and women coming up to you and saying you
may have inspired them to to go do it. I
think that's true. Well, I don't know what the has
I think that people who may have been considering a
career in medicine, they got that extra push from seeing
a character like Carla and Alma and a show like Scrubs.
Do you know what I mean? And the strength of

(19:16):
someone like that, and and the true power of those
of those people in that profession, do you know what
I mean? Where people find, you know, the glory in
in in the doctors, for example, that they don't know
that you cannot have those doctors without the nurses. I
remember um having that conversation with Bill one time where
he wanted to explore the idea of Carla wanting to

(19:39):
pursue a career as a doctor, and I was like,
uh no, I wasn't interested in that, because it's I
think Carla loves being a nurse, and I love you know,
that's where her strength and her power, and her vanity
and her ego live. And I think that she's really
okay with that, do you know what I mean? And uh,
and the dynamics of the relationships with every with her

(20:00):
and everyone in the hospital are our strongest there, you
know what I mean? And that there's nothing wrong with that,
and that and her viewing audience, and for me as
a Latina, all these Latinas find strength and uh, well
there's a lot of a huge force with people and women,
uh and women of color in particular, and particularly at

(20:20):
that time. I wanted to segue into this episode. Actually
it is. And also I just want to point out
Joel because she's such a good producer. Sent me this statement,
sent us this. The Annenberg Inclusion Initiative at the University
of Southern California released a study in two thousand nineteen
that said, quote Latino actors represented only three percent of

(20:43):
lead or co lead roles in top performing movies during
the last twelve years. That this is movies, not TV,
but it's the same thing. What impression do you think
Carla left on your community? Which I thought was a
really smart question that I have to give Joel a
credit for. I think it left a huge impression. I
get again, I get it all the time. And I
think people built on it. A lot of roles were

(21:05):
designed on Carla as a result, you know, a lot
of strong, sassy roles as a result of that. Um,
but not, I mean, you know, you weren't a caricature
in any sense, not in any sense. Yeah, I thought
it's a testament to the writing, absolutely obviously, And it's
and I think it's been challenging to find characters and
roles that have been as strong and as memorable since.

(21:29):
You know, I know it's hard for me to find
roles that has been as strong and as memorable since
and and for me to find you, just like you
were talking and that and that um the podcast that
I was listening with you guys and Bill, that people
want like a phase on type of character. You know,
they're built on because that's the power and the force
of a very well written, very well acted show where

(21:52):
you're trying to just build on the kind of actor
that you are, but moved past that is a real
challenge because it's hard to find written roles. But yeah,
and and the discussions and the arguments of the debates
that you have with the writers to keep it real
and keep it honest, keep it flawed, keep it complicated, um,
which is all that Bill and the writers responded to

(22:15):
really honestly, you know. And Bill responded to what I said,
you know, let's keep her a nurse because you know
that's where the challenges in the hospital environment living. And
he was really respectful of your input, I think, and
and all right, Um, we're gonna go to commercial because
that's what we're supposed to do. Donald, I thought we
were going to go into the episode we're going to.
But I'm seeing a chat from from the producers. This

(22:37):
is like the longest do you ever look at the
chat supposed to talk about the show? Though? I know, bro,
but listen, Judy is entertaining as hell, and we're gonna go.
I'm not saying it's her fault. Why are you yelling
at all of us? It feels like them. We'll be
right back stri tea No Judy. Donald. I'm a little

(23:03):
worried because we're only like eight episodes in and Donald
has taken to day drinking only on only on shoot
days only. I have a feeling by the time we
get to like episode twenty, he's gonna be the hammer
like and another thing, he's gonna be screaming. By episode eight,
they'll be like, what shure, We'll be off and shirt

(23:25):
will be off. Do you remember that time, Judy, we
were all at a bar like, No, I won't tell
the whole story. I won't tell the whole story, but
all I know is that Dolly got drunk enough so
that his shirt was off in the bar, and I
just was ice bar too. It was an ice bar,
so it's it's there's a room where you go in
and it's nothing but ice. And I went in that
room shirtless and drank. No, but you were walking around

(23:47):
the part. I mean, this was just hilarious now I
think about it. It was it was our whole cast
and crew, and we were all partying. I don't know
if it was a rap thing or whatever, but all
of a sudden I look over and Donald was drunk
enough so that he was like having animated discus Russians
without his shirt on in the bar. Exact that you
remember that, remember, because I did some nodi. I did

(24:08):
some stupid things and my then girlfriend now wife showed
up to surprise me, and I was acting a fool
at the bar. She had evidence. Oh yeah, it's such
a good story. But I don't know if there were.
I don't know. If I don't know. You asked Casey
if we can have permission mable till on a later episode. Yeah,
I'll ask her. Yeah. But in the meantime, just know

(24:29):
that Donald got in trouble and also headed shirt off.
Oh my gosh, you bring them at the time Donald
got in trouble. That's like, that's a lot that happened
a lot. That's what I'm saying. Every episode got trouble
and took off clothing. Yeah. And when Donald would yeah,
he take his clothes off, and then if he got
to the next level drunk, he'd leave angrily and like

(24:50):
sometimes you leave angrily with no shirt on? Yeah, right, yo, dude,
that hell, that's just donaldis right, he wants I told
him so Mad. We won't go into this story. All
of it is says that he walked. We live we
both lived at the time in the Hollywood Hills, and
he once walked home, walked home no shirt on from

(25:12):
Brea and Melrose up into the Hollywood Hills. Like there's
there's no sidewalks, Like people don't walk where this is
where Donald walked, and he was power walking like arms flying,
mad naked doesn't naked. But I was mad like that,
you really mad. Yeah, it's a long story. That's a
long story. Some of these stories we have to censor.

(25:34):
Should we get into the episode, we should totally get
into that. I just wanted to say the first thing
that I noticed, and is that Donald's CPR at forty
eight seconds is I would not bring anyone back to life.
But I just want to say something. It was a
real human being. I'm not allowing, you know, I know.
I want to tell the audience that it's a tricky
thing to give fake CPR because if you do CPR

(25:55):
for real, you can kill someone. So when you watch
horrible TV and movie CPR, it sometimes looked like this.
But I just wanted to say that I thought you
did a particularly bad job. Thank you, thank you very much.
Thank you. It wasn't the real j D there at
the time on set to approve the fame, I'm sure.

(26:17):
But if you look at if you look at fake
CPR all throughout medical TV shows, there's different techniques there.
But and and you know, some people just like completely
bed their elbows so none of the pressure goes down
on the persons. Sternum I don't know what Donald's doing here,
but I just maybe j D had an emergency, maybe
he was hungover from that power. Yeah, I don't, I don't.

(26:39):
I don't know why this is a highlight of this
podcast today. I'm just saying, I'm buddy. I'm just saying,
next time you do fake CPR and one of your projects,
you know you can do better. I believe in you. Okay,
let's talk about the Holy Inferiority Complex Batman. This is
one of some people's favorite you know what I wrote
down when I saw that that man, Robin star Ski

(27:03):
and Hutch Han and Chewy Han and Luke Turk and
j D. Are you're putting us up up there. I'm
saying we are ultimate, ultimate dynamic duo. I want to
say that. You know, there's certain things that come up
all the time in Scrubs, fan favorite things that they

(27:24):
send us gifts or they send or I see them
on on the interwebs, and this episode has a few
of them. Actually, but bat this Batman Holy Infurity Inferiority
complex um is one of them. I think it's great
because then they at least you're not Alfred and then
you're the That's my best Adam west impersonation ever. Two.

(27:52):
I don't think I could ever. Like you know, people
are like do Neil Diamond. I think my Adam west
impersonation was better than my Neil Diamond. He was Robin
Your Your mask is so funny. I just have it
frozen on one seventeen and I know that, like we weren't,
like we weren't allowed to do the exact costume again
because it's parody. It like has to have a little
twist on it. But your mask is so funny. It's

(28:14):
like Marty Gras. It's like a Marty Grab mask. I
don't know what it was. It was. It's like Marty.
Because those were the days too whenever we have to
do like the Scrubs fantasies or whatever, where we was like,
oh are they doing the fantasy And everybody would run
down from their dressing rooms and come see everybody and
the costumes and the fantasies. And I'd be like, it's

(28:35):
like when you actually get one Judy, one thing, one thing.
I hear one thing. I noticed Judy at three three?
You are you? I mean, correct me if I'm wrong.
You weren't often in the fantasies but but this is
one because because I don't know why we can talk
about that, but this was one of the early times
where you were in there doing that throwing stars thing.

(28:55):
And I'll tell you because I was also listening to
when I was listening to the Bill podcast, I remember
you know how you know how Bill always warned us
not to go and talk to him about including or
getting it because you would get paise on. And I
would be terrified of talking to him about ship like that.
It would be like, you know, because uh, he would

(29:15):
always let me know a sudden your character there would
be carrying the gravitas of the show, and I was like,
but um, I'm funny, God damn it. I'd be worried
about It's like, how do I talk to this man
about the fact that I'm funny and I want like
a fantasy and you know, or I wanted more jokes

(29:35):
and ship, you know, and those would be like and
I would literally sometimes be in my dressing room like
trying not to cry because I'm about to confront Bill
about wanting more another joke or wanting this or wanting that,
because I wouldn't want to be paise on or some ship.
So what would you do? Would you give yourself a
bit of a pep talk kind Oh my god, yeah,
and I would like cry in my room before you know,

(29:57):
I'd be pulling like an Elliott in my room. Yeah,
I'd freak out, you know. And was he receptive? He
was receptive. He was receptive, I think. I mean, I
have no idea what his reasoning was, but but it
sounds like, just from hearing you recount it, that that
Carl was always the base of the reality and and

(30:20):
the gravitas and the drama. So he didn't want her
going into being too silly. But it's funny in this episode.
You do have some funny as shit. I think I
like the ninja stuff. That was funny. That was walking
in with your girlfriend, laughing and everything and then getting
caught out. Yeah, that I was gonna say. I didn't recall.

(30:44):
To be honest, I don't recall a lot of I
say this every single podcast. I don't recall a lot
of scrubs when watching it. But I didn't recall that
you and Elliott had such a rocky start. I always
thought that you guys had a great relation ship. But
I do you remember when it switched to where you
guys became Was it early on? Because like even in

(31:08):
this episode, you're totally dissing her, you know, You're like,
you know, and it's and it seems like it's always
that way. She puts her foot in her mouth and
you're like, I gotta get the hell away from this person. Uh.
Carlo is like, I gotta get the hell away. In
the beginning, Sarah was pretty disrespectful to Carla, you know,
like she um, you know, so I think I would imagine,
I mean, obviously I want to know your answer, but

(31:29):
that my my impression was that she was still feeling
resentful towards towards Elliott, right, I think so. And I
think it's more like she she doesn't get it and
she never will, you know what I mean. And I
think it's j D's um impulse always to just like
smooth things, sober over and uh and fix things and
help other people understand that she's really nice, just awkward.

(31:53):
She's always screwing things up, just like you know, trying
to help people understand or explain people to other people,
you know what I mean, And just I got no
time for this. Do you recall when it switched over
to Carla being that person for Elliott, you know what
I mean, where Carla was making excuses for Oh, this
is just the way she is. Did it ever switch
over to that or was Carla always I don't, I mean,

(32:15):
I really don't. I know, I know that it happened
in this episode. I don't know, well, in this episode,
even after you're like, I'm sorry I did that, we
all know the truth, all right, No, nobody want to
hang out with Elliott exactly, especially when she's rocking a neckerchief.
Did you see that neckerchief? And ka I thought that

(32:38):
was really funny that moment. It's around five or so,
when you guys are walking until you're going out outfits
and she's got her khakis and her her little like
Scooby do what's the character and Scooby Doo that has
the neckerchief. It was so random. Yeah, that was her
going out outfit, so sanitary. And then she puts her

(33:00):
foot in her mouth with your friend because she has
a son. Yes, she has a son who's like really young,
and she's like, wow, way to rob the cradle. I'm
gonna be I'm gonna be honest with you. I had
a lot of issues with this episode, Uh, as far
as stereotypes go, and I know this is the episode
with Stereo about stereotypes and everything like that, but there's

(33:22):
just so many things that you know, one of the
lines Turk says in the show is like, you know,
all my whole life, people always assume that I'm a
good athlete, that I uh that I that I UH
was I'm a good athlete. I grew up poor and
uh I love Sandford and Son. Those things are kind
of true about me. At the end of the day.

(33:45):
I'm a pretty decent athlete. I didn't grow up with
a lot of money, and I truly love Sanford and Son.
But it's the obvious exploitation of those things and trying
to absolutely absolutely it's a there's a there's a lot
of deep things that that we talked about in this episode.
You know, you you touched on it earlier, and that's

(34:07):
why I was saying it was such a great segue
into this episode. You know, people of color don't go
to hospitals or don't go to the doctor, you know
what I mean. And it's because they don't. My opinion
is because they don't see themselves when they go. They
see a bunch of other colors when they go, and
that can be very scary, you know what I mean.
We touch on it in this episode, but I feel like, yeah,

(34:27):
I understand why Turk's upset because you know, his face
is plastered and he's being exploited to try and bring
a hip new crowd into the hospital and everything like that.
But there's something deeper in that one. I didn't know
that Sacred Heart was in the inner City. I had
no idea that it was an inner city hospital one
this whole time, there's so listen right in the in

(34:51):
the hospital, you know what I mean? Uh and uh.
You know, at the end of the day, this was
something that really struck with me. You know, we talked
about we talk about COVID now and how you know,
people of color are are are a very high percentage
of people that are dying because we have so many
underlying conditions and stuff like that. But a lot of

(35:12):
that has to do with being afraid to go to
the doctor or to the hospital because when you go there,
they're either gonna give you bad news or you're gonna die,
you know what I mean. And I feel like it's
so prevalent in this you know what I mean. Uh,
you know, it's we talked about it in this episode
in a small way. But that's what I took away

(35:33):
from this. I took what I took. My takeaway from
this was, you know, it's more than just being exploited.
It has everything to do with you know, how can
we make health care better for people of color? But
my first thing was, wow, I wish we truthfully need
to figure out this health care system when it comes
to the stigmatism that people of color have when they

(35:57):
go to a hospital. When I finished the episode, I was, Okay,
the lesson is nobody wants to be taking advantage of
and stand up for yourself and everything like that. I
was like, but there's something deeper in that. Also, where
the hell did this kid and I get this fucking
imaginary football from? I just started laughing at that too,
to each other at the end of the show. I
always laughing at that too. I was like, Sweiti a second,
you were stitching him up in a in an o

(36:19):
R and then all of a sudden there's a football
was there was on the shelf, Like how did this?
How did this happen? By the way, and that story
and that story is pretty glossed over too. It's like,
you got knife, you got stabbed, Yeah, you got stabbed
in the arm. Yeah, let's toss a ball. Let's play football,
now you know what I mean. And that's what I

(36:39):
was sitting. I was like, this is some stereotypical bullshot. Yeah,
he got knife in the arm, and you then making
some joke like I got this from What was your joke? Like, I,
oh my my injuries from this or something like that. Yeah, anyway, here, Jim,
here's a ball. Yeah, let's play catch. Let's play. Let's
have a catch in the r that wrestling fantasy. It

(37:00):
was pretty funny. I think I'm gonna prob. I'm gonna
because I'm the intern. I was so excited to do that.
I like pro wrestling when I was a kid. J D.
Macho Man Savage. I accidentally freeze framed at seven oh six,
and I think it might be the most unattractive shot
of me in Scrubs history. It was like this wide

(37:20):
angle lens and I'm all up close to my giant
nose and uh and your hair like show up. You
had hair like shown up from the last dragon too.
By the way, I like my hair like that. I
was really enjoying it. I mean, the wig extension, whatever
it is. I I think that they did a good
job because I wish I could rock hair like that.
My hair would never do that. It wouldn't No, I wouldn't.

(37:42):
It wouldn't be so glorious. No, you have beautiful curly
here on. My hair wouldn't be like all straight and ship.
Judy talking about that bar scene at eight oh four.
Do you remember shooting that and it's the when you
when you show up and Sarah's drinking alone? Do you
remember shooting that or and that woman that you worked
with it? I don't. I'm sorry, I don't know her name.

(38:03):
I mean you probably don't remember her name either, but
she I thought she did a good job. No, she
was super sweet. And I do remember like the whole
idea of doing that scene. I I I just loved
the idea of sucking up on someone so badly, you know,
and just being so ah, so uncomfortable around someone, uh

(38:23):
that you would uh hide under a table you know, Yeah,
hide under a table, do you know what I mean?
And having to like try to find ways to just
completely avoid them because you screwed up so badly and
how I'm telling Turk, I you such a guy and
you don't fucking understand what's going on. And then j

(38:43):
D comes and I'm so sorry what I did. And
they apologized to each other like nothing happened. Do you
think that that's what? Do you think the commentary is there?
That like men can communicate with each other? I mean
what I laughed at that, but then I was thinking, like, well,
what is what is the social commentary there? Just that
just that Turk and g D have such a close
relationship and they know how to communicate. I think so.

(39:05):
I think they already apologize to each other, but they
want to say, listen, I hope you got me. I'm
really sorry for what happened. I didn't mean it. I
know that you didn't mean it as cool, you know
what I mean? Just right after and I think she realizes,
like shit, I really just have to go confront her,
you know where she's trying to avoid it. I think,
you know, guys, but this, these these guys, they're so

(39:25):
they're such good friends that they're going to they're not
going to do that to their friendship, you know. And
he's and and Turkey is looking off and that you
know we're getting there. She's looking at him like, you know,
go fund yourself and we did that. There's some sound
effect on our fist bump that's like me, you know

(39:48):
that their friendship isn't and healed and by no means
of friendship and and Aloma and I love that whole
and the whole nurse thing with like Aloma being in
the j D see his his his fucking evaluations so
desperately from Cox, I think fits into that story so well.
He's asking from Aloma and mis Dr Cox is there

(40:10):
and he's She's like, can't you see I'm watching my story.
I remember that whole my stories think being so hilarious
during that episode that I do remember, and everybody's like
voting it all over the place. Aloma was so funny.
You could just give her anything and she's just like
one line and she's just magical. Yeah, she comes in,
Um what Carla didn't give Elliott Laverne gave her. You

(40:35):
know who's my right? Played so beautiful. It's because she
just gives her. She goes, why so sad marshamallow and
then she gives her a little hot chocolate, a little
Marshmallow did Marshmallow stick Marsha? Did it? Did? I think it? Did?
Ye think Carla and Nurse Roberts were friends outside of work? Yes? Yeah, absolutely, yeah,

(40:55):
that story never got told. I want to see and
I want to see the Nurse Roberts Carla Vegas trip.
Did Alma ever go with us to Vegas? Did she
go with us to Vegas for the rap? I think so.
I think Aloma was. I think Aloma was religious and
she wasn't. She was staying away from that Jesus will
not be there. I know that. I think she would

(41:18):
have done at the machine the whole time. But do
you remember that Vegas trip? Yeah? We went twice? Do
you know that? I don't. We went for one one
time we went for like a birthday, and then another
time we went for Am I wrong? I might be wrong?

(41:39):
I don't know. Well, we definitely went for to shoot
the thing with the Blue Man Group, and then we
stayed and had a party, right, No, that was the
rap party. Was the Rap party and the Blue Man
Group thing the same trip. No, there were two trips
to Vegas. There were like three or four trips to Vegas.
What a good deal, great deal? I was the last.

(42:00):
That's another question. When's the last time any of you
have been to Vegas. I don't think it's wise for
me to go to Vegas anymore. Yeah, I remember when
I went to Vegas, and I think um Bill was that.
I was like, I've never played poker or I've never
played routlette. It's come on, come on, you can do it.
You could do it, you could do it. And I
played and I beat him, and he got pissed that.

(42:21):
I remember Bill. Bill Lawrence says one of the best
quotes about Vegas that I always think about, and he goes,
I've never had a good second night in Vegas. The
thing you gotta go and get the funk out and
get out, get out. Donald. I once went to Vegas
with Donald and many I've been to Vegas many times
with Donald. But once he uh, We're playing black jack

(42:43):
and he got crushed and he went upstairs and went
to sleep. It was like nine thirty. He was so
mad that how badly he got beaten black jack that
he just he said, and I don't think you came
back out. You went to bed. I came out the
next day. I met you all at the pool. The
next day I had a good night's sleep. Yeah, I

(43:05):
wanted to say that that billboard at night, that that
that that that Kelso has made was really up. So
nowadays that would be a visual effect, But back in
two thousand one, they made that billboard and it was
and I remember it was up for a little while,
right Donald, Yeah, I didn't realize that the rainbow flag
was behind it though. Well. Diversity, yeah, but you know
what I thought that diversity was the fact that a

(43:28):
white guy and a black guy could work at the
same hospital together. Black guy was gay, not that the
black guy was. Remember I remember that they took down
all the posters in the hospital, but they left it
was up up for a while. Yeah, those were hilarious.
By the way, I wish I was when I was
watching this episode, I was going, I wish I had
one of those souvenir. Time to get to e K

(43:49):
G G would be hanging up in my house. Time
to get an e KG is my favorite one. Oh
my gosh. I wanted to say that A ten of
eight is when you get mad at me. We're in
a car about the billboard, and then I do an
homage to the movie Vacation where I go rull them up.
You remember that. Remember remember in the movie Vacation when
chevy Chase is frantically they end up in a bad

(44:11):
neighborhood and they're stealing their they're they're tired their hubcaps,
and there's they hear a gunshot and chevy Chase goes
roll up the windows. So I just recognized my homage
to Vacation there. And then you also said keep it real.
You also said keep it real in the scene where
you come where we apologize to it after the fifth pump,

(44:33):
you said keep it real. That's a bit of a
bit of an homage too. I would say to chevy Chase,
no to clueless, oh to clueless. Sorry, um ten forty one.
This is the Sandford and Son thing, which is pretty funny.
And I laughed out loud when you did it, like
reluctantly you did our You're you're sad, like I try
and get you into the Sandford something and then you

(44:55):
sort of do it because I can't really help it. Yeah, yeah,
but it's the it's this, it's you had this look
on your face is like so reluctant, but you can't
help it. But I can't help it. Yeah, and then
it cuts and then it cuts to as Slapping dance

(45:16):
where we're seeing Yes, that's a special moment in Scrubs
history with us bull dancing and as slapping. Bill had
referenced you being on the brochure twice when he's on
this is the moment that happens. Now. He said this
was a problem that he some people got mad about it.
I'm sure people get mad at everything, but I think

(45:36):
this was a real story. I think, as I understand,
this was taken from a real anecdote where a college
gotten caught putting the same person on the short twice.
We're gonna take a quick break and we'll be right back,
and we are back, so sure we want to jump

(45:58):
in before we get started, Before get started. This is Tiffany.
Hi Tiffany, thanks for being here. Hi Tiffany, how are you?
Oh my god, Oh my god. No, he's pretty beautiful,
super excited. Guys, Joel, what did you want to say?
Bef we want to get all this, what did you
want to say? So this is a surprise for Tiffany's husband,

(46:19):
so he does not know that he's about to come
on to talk to you guys. Why that's really nice.
That's really nice of you too, So, Tiffany, he has
no clue that he's going to speak to the three
of us. No, he has absolutely no idea. Our anniversary
is on Friday, nine years when nine years married? This year,
best anniversary present ever? Anything? Goodness again? So what are you?

(46:45):
Are you also in your closet? Yes? Phase on style right,
no doubt, and Judy rays style is j is in
her closet? Now, Tiffany, what are you gonna tell him?
Are you going to say that you guys get on
his zoom? Are you gonna be like yo, get your ass?
Has it right now? Get him the closet now, don't
don't that he'll be disappointed if he finds out it's
us and his wife's lowing into the closet. Yeah, he has,

(47:07):
He has no idea. I had to come up with
a very elaborate ruse to try to work all this out.
I'm a horrible liar. So he either thinks I'm having
some kind of breakdown or hiding something from him. So
with the big reveal is going to be fabulous. So
what's the plan? How do we best review? How do
you do this? I don't know, he thinks I'm in
the closet right now on an important work phone call,
and so I was going to go out there and
say I need tech support. I can't um, I can't

(47:29):
log into the call. Do it go, do it go,
do it right now? Are you ready? Are you ready? Gosh? Okay,
I might cry, guys, and I'm an ugly crier, you know,
just fair warning. Looks like I got hit in the
face with a suck marble, So don't worry. Nobody's gonna
be a's gonna virtually hug you. And we're fake doctor,
so we're used to. So we're kind of used to. Yeah,
we see lots of fake emotion. Yeah. Nice, Okay, I'm

(47:52):
gonna be back. This is exciting. Good work, Joel, good producing, Joel.
This is this is this really added a little little spice.
I'm nervous, are you guys nervous? I don't want him
to be disappointed. What if he's like, oh, I thought
Donald's drunk. He doesn't feel any Yeah, Donald seem drunk.
Hold on, guys, I've got a nice little buzz going.
Oh god, I'm really to be quiet. I'm really stressed out.

(48:16):
These are just my my coworkers that are from from
the call. Hi, Hi, your co workers? Oh my god,
can you help us with this? I mean, I'm sorry,
can you help us with this? They like, happy anniversary? This,
this is for you, This is for you. Yes, come

(48:38):
sit down, Come sit down for don join us. Leave
your cheese to sound. Do you know what two days is?
It's your anniversary? Oh my god, they're crying. Anniversary. You
guys can hug Oh now they're hugging you guys and

(49:03):
they're hugging, trying. This is so beautiful. He seems to
be crying. How did you um? This is how? This
is how I went down. Your wife called Disney Studios
and was like, I need a favor and Disney Studios

(49:26):
provided that's not true at all. That's not true your
amazing wife podcast and uh and and we're we the
three of us, Donald face On, Judy Rays and I
Zach Braff are your anniversary present. You can thank I
Heart Radio, you can thank Joel, and you can thank
Dan and Tiffany Rodriguez, Donald, Tiffanye and More's most importantly,

(49:50):
you thank your wife. Do you want to do you
all want to hug hu again? Oh my god, Oh
my God, you want to This is so exciting. Joel's
crying everybody, I'm not. I'm not crying. Well, you will
be when I cry. I'm not gonna cry. Well anyway,

(50:11):
Hire that you like our little TV show, and we
just wanted to say, have the anniversary, and if you
wanted to ask us anything or anything, We're here to
answer questions. It could be about the show, so it
could be about your life whatever you want. Feel like,
I feel like Turk when you met Lando, I mean,

(50:33):
Chris Man, don't do it. Don came in the Lando.
You know, here's a little, here's a little, here's a
little trivia. I was doing, uh like a celebration. So
Star Wars has a celebration every uh year, right, And
I was doing a celebration one of the celebrations because

(50:53):
I voiced one of the characters on a Star Wars
television show. And somebody told me that Billy d Williams
was next door and that I should go say hi
to him. And I got really excited. I was like, oh, snap, Billy,
do you want to say hi to me? Okay, let
me go and say hi. So I walked into the
room and you know, there's a bunch of people in

(51:14):
line and they're waiting to say hi to Billy D
and take picture with him. And I walked into and
got out in and he jumps and then he looked
over at me and he's like the lines over there,
Oh my god, Oh my god, you must have been crushed.
He's like, you broke my heart. It broke my heart

(51:36):
in your mind, my heart in your mind. You thought
he was going to be like, do come over? Oh
my god. Any So, if you have any questions that
you want to ask, don't be don't be shy. Tell
us your favorite guest star. I guess, favorite guest star,

(52:01):
favorite guest star. Do you want to go first? As
since you're our favorite guest ever I had I could
tell you the first most shocking guest star because I
don't know. I'm like um lack. I don't necessarily get
star struck. But I remember the first time I remember
we had Ericastrada, Yes, and he was on the You

(52:21):
guys remember Eric Ostrada from Chips. For those of you
out there who don't who don't remember the show Chips, Uh,
there was a actor on the show by the name
of Ericastrada who was America's heart throb back in the day. Yes,
and he wasn't supposed to be the story guy who
was supposed to be the show who knows that nobody
remembers his name? Remember, now that's a character's named. Erica

(52:44):
Strada is actual name of the dude who played punch too. Well,
can you tell us his name please? I feeltrict for
myself too, But nonetheless, one I came into hair and
makeup and and there was Erica Strata getting his and
he was just doing like a you know, like a
real quick guest appearance. And I saw him. I was like,

(53:04):
by just standing in the same room with this guy,
couldn't even speak, And now I have a big giant
I did. I remember Wayne Brady had a talk show
at that time, and I told him that story and
he gave me a giant poster of eric Estrada that
I still have in my garage of Eric Estrada hot pants. Yeah,
I remember. I remember that eric a Strata were really tight,

(53:27):
tight motorcycle pants. They all did the Wilcox Larry Willox,
Larry Wilcox, Yes, the apologies, Lets all right, you're not
you didn't didn't have his name, but we want to
make sure we get it out there to respect all
members of the Screen Actors Guild. Donald, Who is your
favorite guest star? Billy d Williams. Obviously, I really enjoyed

(53:50):
when Colin Farrell came on the show. Colin Farrell. I
love that scene. All of us men and women almost
made up with him. Yeah, Sarah really early was excited
to make out with him. And then of course Brendan
Frasier man like oh and also and also Ryan Reynolds. Uh,
you're supposed to pick one if I have to. If

(54:10):
I have to pick one, the exercise was to pick one,
not just kissing off famous people. Oh well, then for
me it would have to be, uh, Billy D Williams.
For me, it was John Ridder, hands down, Because John
Ridder when I was a kid. You'll hear me say
this over and over again. I my intro to physical

(54:31):
comedy was Three's Company. I just thought that was the
funniest ship I had ever seen in my life. And
John Ridder doing physical comedy was just he could fall
over a couch like like no one, and I just
thought he was a master. And then so when he
came on to play my father, I was just gushing.
I was just I loved him so much. And in fact,

(54:53):
he was supposed to come back for the second time.
Literally he was gonna shoot Monday, and I believe he
died um that weekend, the weekend of the week the
he died the if not the night before. No, yeah,
he was supposed to come in and he passed away
after they rapped or while they were making the show
that he was on at the time, and he was

(55:13):
gonna come and do our show the next day. And
and it's really amazing how quickly Tom Kavanaugh, who was
not scheduled to be on the show, showed up to
be on uh the episode, and how they changed around
and making that so that John Ritter's character had passed
away on the show as well, if they had to
frantically rewrite it. But that that's mine. I mean, I'm

(55:34):
literally getting goosebumps as I tell this story. Just and
I and I had him. I have a framed wall
on my on my my house of all these framed
family pictures, and um Donald's on there a few times,
of course, and there was literally one of the most
prominent pictures was a picture of me and John Ritter,
just because he was just so important to me and
I I loved him a lot. I remember when he

(55:56):
said my name the first time and it caught me.
It kind of caught me off guard, you know what
I mean? I was, holy cow, John ridden knows my name?
You know what I mean? I as you did, Zach.
I also grew up on Three's Company, and uh yeah,
that that's a that's a you know what. As much
as I love Billy D. Williams, meeting John Ritter was

(56:16):
and Michael J. Fox also were highlights for me. Yeah,
all right, how about another question? Because now that it
looks like your face has has settled in a little bit,
you're not stunned as much anymore, you know, your eyes aren't.
I another I don't know if I have another question, Tiffany.

(56:37):
Do you have any question? Tiffany? How about you? Um,
would you guys ever consider doing a live taping so
that we could go and see you? And yeah, after
obviously after all the COVID nineteam stuff, but well, you know,
you know, well go ahead, you're gonna say, yeah, Donald,
Donald want to do that. We just don't know when

(56:58):
all of this is going to go away on. I mean,
I don't know where you guys are. Were in Los
Angeles right now, and we have strict policies in Los Angeles,
as we should we you know, we have a lot
of COVID patients here and so I don't know, well
even COVID aside, there's no plans to do anything like that.
And in fact, you know, Scrubs was shot like a film,

(57:19):
not in from an audience. Although as you recall, we
did that, um that one sitcom spoof where we did
it in front of a live audience. Yeah, that was
he knows the title you are good. Um. That was
a lot of fun, you know, because I never Donald
had done sidcomes before. I had never done a sitcom.
H No, I mean I've done I did a pilot

(57:40):
and I did a guest and I had done theater.
But but there was it was really fun doing that that.
Do you guys remember that. I just remember thinking like, oh,
now I see the allure of doing this to come.
It's such a high, Like the audience is so amped up,
it's like cold, and they've got a lot of sugar
and uh and they they just laugh at whatever you do.
And and we obviously it was a well written episode

(58:03):
so it was genuinely funny. But I remember really thinking like, oh,
that could be fun to do. Are you guys in
the medical industry at all? I'm just curious because you're
such enormous fans. No, I was military for I was
arming for a little bit. But where do you guys live,
Northern California, Patterson. It's right up to five on the
other side of the Bay Area. So you guys are

(58:24):
in the Bay Area, we can be over in like
the five and a half hours if you guys can
make us generally anytime, anytime. What's cooking? What you are
cooking tonight? Tacos? Wednesday? Wednesday? Over here? As really, guys,
let's head up there. We'll drive in separate cars and
we'll sit in your backyard. We will maintain safe distancing,

(58:48):
I promise you. Oh my god, Well, thank you so
much for what a great surprise and uh and our
pleasure and happy anniversary, Happy anniversary, Tiffany, you are a
good wife. I gotta say it was a good surprise. Yeah,
I'm never going to have to buy anything ever again.
I'm just gonna I'm just gonna take a picture of that,
and you know, just like that's it every year. Remember,

(59:10):
take the picture. Now, let's take the picture and let
me get let me get fresh Y, make sure you
get Joel too. And that's how we'll always remember them.
That's how we'll always remember them. Accidentally did airplane. I
should have hurt him though, he's like, he screams, oh

(59:34):
my god, wow, this guy's You were just totally awesome.
And thank you for doing this. Where we're watching watching
the show, listening to the podcast. It's just awesome right now.
Thank you. We're having so much fun doing it, and
it means a lot to us that that you're loving listening.
And uh and please stay safe up there and enjoy
Taco Wednesday. Be healthy than you. Bye. Yeah, you technically

(59:56):
are supposed to hang up, but you don't have to.
Can be together forever. I like it. I like it, Judy,
let's do that. You're rocking the curly hair. No, no,
but really hang up now because we got the rest
of the shop. Donald get Rodriguez is getting the funk out. No.

(01:00:19):
I love you, Thank you, thank you so much, guys,
thank you, Joel, Josh. That was great. Joel, Joel. I
don't know how a caller can I mean, you really
brought it up. Did you do that? I don't know
how anyone's ever going to compete with that, Joey. You know,
I wanted to really quickly give some tips. If you
guys want to write in a letter, make sure your
subject line is just really expressive. That's going to pop out.

(01:00:39):
It's like, we have thousands and thousands of letters for
people wanting to call in, and so just you know whatever,
you can put your question in there, if you have
a good one, if you have a good story, we'll
probably wait till we surprise someone. So don't try to
set that up just yet. You know you're no words
top that bitches, Well, listen, we should we should remind

(01:00:59):
be well if you do all, even though Joel's say
she's getting thousands of them, if you do want to
ask a question, you go to you write an email
to scrubs I heart at gmail dot com. Find a
way to stand out and and it'll all be up
to Joel's eyeballs who gets to come on. Don't blame
me if you call in, and if you try to

(01:01:21):
call in or you send an email and you don't
get a response, it's not my fault. You blame Joel.
You're not gonna believe this. But Donald's not the one
sifting through the thousands of emails. Yeah, you blame Joel,
You blame Joe. Well, it's fall. You gotta put some
face in your face, your boy. Fall of banana in
the tail pipe. You're not gonna fall for now. Banana
in the tail tipe. Wait a minute, no banana no

(01:01:43):
tail pipe? What alright? So I was gonna say something.
I was going to say something. Notes. I'm so impressed.
I always have notes from I always have no time good.
I didn't know that you were always rocking notes. I
just thought you were making drinks. They're in the cloud. Boy,

(01:02:05):
go ahead, Dr Kelso coast t Turk and this doctor
Turk he calls him Dr Turk now right, and not Turkleton.
So does this mess up the lore that Kelso doesn't
know Turk's last name is Turkleton and he's just calling
him Dr Turk like he would call uh doctor Dorry

(01:02:27):
and doctor He would therefore be calling doctor dorryan Dr John.
Or that they decide somewhere down the line, This is
a good Bill Lawrence question. That they decide somewhere down
the line that Kelso just forgot Turk's name altogether. Okay,
we'll ask Bill that here, Joel um, what was what
was the intention? I imagine that someone just missed it,

(01:02:49):
and uh I decided it would be funny later on
if if Kelso had no idea what your name and
thought your name was Turk Turkleton, which is very funny.
That's That's one of the funniest. That's one. That's another
thing that I've really loved. I've been uh spewing about this,
uh Judy because I really feel like our relationship is

(01:03:11):
the one. I mean, yeah, they follow uh j d
and Elliott throughout the show, but our relationship from the gate,
from the beginning of the show too season eight is
is you know, you watch it grow, and by season three,

(01:03:32):
when we finally get into the wedding and all of
that stuff, I really felt like it was earned by
the time we got there, you know what I mean,
like we had been through so many that the characters
had been through so many things, and so you know,
when I look back at all of this stuff, when
I look back at me singing Mrs Jones and you know,
me hiding in your in your closet at your mom's house,

(01:03:54):
and then when you finally decide to move in, and
you know, there's a breakup between Turk and Carl and
all of that stuff before they get married. I feel
like it's really earned. And I don't necessarily remember how
the episode of us getting married turns out, but I
just remember it feeling so epic when we were shooting it,
you know what I mean, because all of this stuff
that we had been through and the first few seasons

(01:04:16):
were coming to a head at at that point, and
I just felt like our romance on the show was
just you know, I said it to Bill. I think
I thought it was perfect. You didn't. You didn't necessarily
need to watch the show to understand that Turk and
Carla were they were strengthened the foundation a part of

(01:04:37):
that like in essence, kind of like the way the
episode ends, Um, it's kind of like the reason you
belong in this place, and the way they these people
together like a family. It's kind of like, you know,
they're like that parental force, the place that you belong,
the reason that you feel like you go there, you
know what I mean, like meant to be. You know,

(01:04:59):
this fight, the funk ups and the breakups and the
ups and the downs. They're funny together. They understand each other.
He's um silly um, where she's a little too serious
because you can't have them both be silly at the
same time, you know what I mean. She's she's got
she grounds she grounds him, Yeah, she grounds him and

(01:05:22):
she grounds like a lot of other people, you know
what I mean. Where she begs to be light when
she's not. You know, she has to like loosen up sometimes,
you know what I mean, where she teaches people about
the place that they're in. You know, where she where
she has to be taken out of there sometimes, kind
of like Cox has to be taken out of there sometimes,
you know what I mean. So it's they pull each

(01:05:46):
other out of where they are and they bring each
other to where they have to be speaking of what
I mean very much, and you know what I mean.
Remember somebody asking me, you know, well, what do you
have in common with your wife? I was like, well,
I don't have that much in common with my wife,
to be honest with you. We do love each other
passionately and stuff like that. That's the one thing we
do have in common, but we're not necessarily the same people,

(01:06:09):
and I think that's very much the same with Chris,
Turk and Carla. I think that the two of them,
they might be both from the inner I don't even
know that Turk is from the Inner City. I know
Carlos from the Inner City. But Turk, in this episode,
we discovered that he was always the black dude in
the situation, you know what I mean, even in the

(01:06:30):
science fair where they give him the blue ribbon even
though he didn't compete in the science fair, and also
at college because they weren't a lot of black kids
at the college, they put them into brochure twice. But anyway,
my point is their personalities aren't necessarily the same, but
they complement each other so well. Yeah, that is like
you and Casey. I mean, it's funny you say that

(01:06:51):
because you guys are so perfect together, but yeah, Yang
is the perfect We're completely different, and I think that, Yeah,
I think that's what worked about Carla and Turk. Carla
is so serious and Turks such a fucking goofball, But
you put them together and you get like a perfect couple.
I want to just touch on the scene with Johnny
c brates me at eighteen in the conference room, I

(01:07:13):
thought Johnny's performance there was really really good. Uh. And
it's a really powerful scene. It's it's it was an
early moment in Scrubs where he's just laying all out there.
There's no score that's sort of forcing your your your
your emotions. It was just like him just laying into me.
I thought that way. I thought he was really good there.
I thought he was great in it. And and I
you know, I watched it twice, the episode, and I

(01:07:34):
remember when I first when what I do remember about
the episode and having seen when I saw it initially,
it was like it's just so hard on him, you know.
But I'm a parent now, and uh, and I know
my husband who's like coach is sucker is hard like that,
and he's hard like that on my daughter. And I

(01:07:55):
get it, do you know what I mean? It was
like ship, I get it. You know. It's like a
person who wants approval can be um so satisfied with
being liked and everybody being okay with you know, thinking
that you're good or or being approved by everyone around you,

(01:08:16):
instead of knowing that there the job that they're doing
is a good job, or you knowing that what you
did was well done, instead of people liking you or
liking what you did, you know, and that's a really
hard place to be when you have to look at yourself.
You know what I'm saying. I'm watching it was like
ship that was so good, which Johnny C is Like,

(01:08:36):
no one's harder on Johnny C than Johnny Z. You
know what I mean. Yeah, he really brought it. I
mean I just I thought, you know, it's a pretty
big speech he had and he just I don't know,
I got goose bumps when I was watching it. But
he's relentless like that. There's a funny moment in when
Elliott offers to give your friend valium. I'm like, a
doctor's allowed to do that? Like your friend is upset
because her son got stabbed, and don't worry, we're gonna

(01:08:59):
set you up with a I am in an ivy drip.
I was like, what that's a thing that, I mean,
it's if it's not, it should be because I would
need it if my kid got stabbed. I'm gonna tell
you that right now. I just didn't know. I didn't
know if you're I just didn't know if doctors are
allowed to like just start throwing around value for people
that are upset. Well, what the stuff this out? Now?
That's like nothing, So I'll give you two zan accent

(01:09:21):
and O. He's like, I'm worried. I'm worried about you.
I'm gonna set you up in a room with a
valume and a drip. I was like, really, go Elliott
and in an inner city hospital with people like pouring
out the doors. But that's what's messed up. It's an
inner city hospital that's so heavily, that's so heavily relies

(01:09:42):
on insurance. It was twenty years ago. Phase On just
saying this ship is still prevalent. This is still real today.
I'm just keeping one. It maybe the very first occurrence
of the sad scrubs queue. Buh buh uh uh. That's

(01:10:08):
the first time I heard it. Okay, doo doo doo doo, dude.
But those of your excuse who don't know, this scrubs
que will go on for a really long time until
finally we started making fun of it so much. Yeah
that j D starts commenting on the sad screw right,
and it gets taken out of the show because of that.
I think what happened was season does it get taken out.

(01:10:31):
I don't know. I think the composer. The composer made
like a handful of cues, and then these guys just
used the same cues over and over again. There's not
that many, you know, when we don't use music, there's
not that many scrubs cues. It's like bound bown that
was that would be like a sting when something funny happened,
to just go bound after something. Robert said, Mash said,

(01:10:55):
but nine but nine and a half down, that's the
janitor nine but nine and a half Donald, I thought
that was that's the episode where I have to look
at the Janners. I I catch a look at the
janitor's penis and I and I noticed that there's a
mole on it and I and then I have to
inspect it and I go it's benign, and he goes benign.

(01:11:15):
But nine and a half I thought that was the
Tide that said, that's hilarious all. Like I said, I
don't remember this show I was on, and I don't
remember much about it. Well, that's the show, guys, that's
the episode pretty much. Judy, will you will you come
do this more? Because I think you we really like

(01:11:36):
having you on. I hope I can speak for my
co host Donald thing. I would love it if you
came back anytime, and we will make that happen. And Judy, Um,
since you are one of my favorite guests to ever
be on our little podcast, and also because you have
a beautiful voice, I thought you could be the first
one to ever count us in to our our theme

(01:11:58):
song that ends the show. Donald's prefers to go five
six seven eight. Um, I don't know how you feel
you can count in any way you so choose. It's
five six seven eight, Okay, yeah, Donald, however you want
to do it, it's all right with it, like six
seven eight. That's pretty good. That'll work, That could work. Yeah, okay,

(01:12:19):
but let's do it for real now, Okay, here we go.
That was pretty good. Okay, but I want to just yeah, Judy, Yes,
we love you. Thank you for coming on the podcast.
Count us into our theme song by six seven stories
about show we made about a bunch of nurses and

(01:12:41):
stories around here, yea around here, mm hmm.