209: My Lucky Day

On this week's episode, JD correctly diagnoses a patient that Dr. Cox struggles with and gets cocky. In the real world, Zach and Donald geek out over Michelle Branch following Zach and the time Donald met Tony Shalhoub.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi, How are you hi? Friends happening? First of all,
Daniel came by the house yesterday to get him to
sign the Funko Pop. Yeah, he came by my house too.
I'm gonna be honest with you. He's a lot stockier
than I thought he was. I thought Daniel was like, yeah,
I thought he was gonna be like this little scrawny guy.
He came up. I was like, first of all, I
didn't I didn't get the text or anything. And and uh,

(00:26):
I thought he was wearing full ppe. He looked like
he was straight up dude. But I'm yelling at my
kid when he knocks on the door, like, I'm like, yo,
shot the fuck up, Like I'm like deep in all
my kid, No, but me and my kid are going
at it. And he knocks on the door and I

(00:46):
opened the door and I have no idea who it is.
And in my mind, I'm like, what the fuck? And
I look and I go, I know those eyes. It
was hard. You know, you remember in ET when the
guys were in full suits dealing with sick et. That's Dan. Look.
He was fully when he keered up, which I appreciate.
If you're gonna come to my house during COVID in
Los Angeles. You better be pepeat up, dude. He had

(01:09):
the gloves on. Man, Yeah he had everything. I'm sure. Yeah,
I'm sure he took the gloves off and disinfected his
hands right away. To listen. He probably, like most people
in Los Angeles right now, he probably has the hand
sanitizer that smells like tequila. Am I right? No? I have.
I like this one. It's called this one makes you

(01:30):
smell delicious? What are you drinking? This is a little
thing early for whiskey, bro, so early. I'm living at
COVID life. I'm gonna blow your mind. What this isn't whiskey?
What is it delicious? What is it whiskey? No, it's not.

(01:54):
It's actually as it's a bourbon. Oh it's I have
so much talking about I got spit dripping in my mouth.
I'm sorry. I have so much to talk to you about.
I wrote down notes because we have so much to
talk about. And ladies and gentlemen, we have the legendary
Johnny c McGinley on the show today. Did you know that, Donald?
I did not know John was on the show today.
I love it. You don't even know who Joelle and

(02:15):
I are booking on the show. It's I handle the
bookings and Joel and Daniel make contact with them, and
it's a surprise to you. It looks like it's a
surprise to Daniel too. Yeah. I had to get an email, Joel.
Do you not know that I did not have Johnny
c on our list for today? Oh my god? That

(02:37):
is okay, So go on, Zach. What were you saying?
You shall get that? To get that intro email? It's
like Dan John's on the podcast. Oh shit, Um, well
now I'm now I'm embarrassed. Let me call him. Did
we talk to Johnny already? Well? I I worked out
a long time ago, saying when do you want to
come on? And I guess I assume you guys we're

(03:00):
shooting the ship with him. I apologize about that. Well, no,
maybe it was a communication breakdown. Donald You can you
can laugh at me if you want, But I I
don't know what's funny right now. Let's call him and
see if he am. I mean, I'm sure he's ready. Hey, Johnny,
see it's Zach Braff. Where you are you coming on

(03:22):
the show today? Right? Today? Yeah? Oh? The twenty ninth okay, okay,
I I had a miscommunication and now I wasn't sure
if it was today at the twenty nine and Donald's
laughing at me. Yeah twenty nine, Hey, Zachie, Yeah, when
when you started screaming why, yeah, well, well the man

(03:44):
was having trouble pooping. Yeah, swallowed my gump? Why why
you know your poop is bad when someone yells walk
all right, I love you. I gotta go. We're doing
the podcast. Okay, Well, I I look like an idiot

(04:06):
right now. I'm okay with it, And you don't look
like an idiot. Hold on, you were about to go
in on me though you were about to go. I
just think it's funny that you don't always know who's
on the show. Yes, do I look like an idiot
right now? Sure? And I think it's always important when
one uh looks like an idiot that they acknowledge that
they do and that they love you. You know, I

(04:27):
love you more. But here's the thing. You didn't have
to apologize for that, because it makes for good pod.
Good pod or your shortening it? Now you give good pod? Yeah,
that you give great pod. Your pod skills are like
top notch. When you give pod I just want to scream, dude,
I freaking make I make audible noises when you're giving pod.

(04:50):
I just when I pod with you, I just want
to shoot my never mind, you ruined it myself. We
were on the right track, but then starting to get
r rated to night I listen, don't like our rated content.
We could have kept it that way and when somebody

(05:10):
was like, yo, you guys are being too uh graphic
or racy, we could be like, get your mind out
of the gather. We're talking about podcasting. You automatically went
to your pod is so good. I want to shoot
and then there was no returning. There was no returning
from that. I fucked up. I sucked up again. Donald.
I feel maybe we can have dan'l bleep some stuff

(05:34):
because you and I, rather than try and censor things
when they get pornographic, it would just be better to
be ourselves. And then when we listen to the edit,
we can say, Dan, just beat that out beat it
beat beat beat beat that out beat beat beat that
beat beat beat. Here we go, everybody gather around CBS

(05:59):
getting down. What's the TP Someone's calling me my agent?
Should I answer it? What if? What if they have
what if they had amazing news. What if they were
like you got that fucking ball? No, no, no, I
never I never liked to whatever your agent calls. It's
either I mean, obviously it can be medium medium news,

(06:21):
but it's either good news or bad news. I don't
want to talk to them right now. I'm really I'm
waiting for this giant megastar to say that he might
want to be in my movie. When you say giant
mega star, yeah, I'm saying I'm not. I'm not. I
don't try and guess, please, but I am. It's that level,

(06:42):
but not that age. It's a it's a it's an
older fellow. But I'm not gonna listen. Please don't guess
because I I don't. I I just I'm nervous, And
let me ask you a question. These are sincere questions. Yeah, like,
I know you've had like half a bottle of bourbon
at once. This is this is all I'm again. Um,

(07:03):
do you think you could beat Brad Pitt in the footrace? No?
I can't beat Brad Pitt at anything except maybe singing
show tunes. Do you think you could beat Brad Pitt
at tennis? Unless he's never played probably not. I feel
like he's probably athletic. I've seen his abs. Just because
you've got abs doesn't mean don't mean you're a If
you have abs, you're probably a smidgeon athletic. No. No,

(07:24):
that's like, that's like that's that's judging a book by
its cover. All Right, you're right, you're right. Why do
you bring up Brad Pitt? I'm just wondering because every
time somebody says anything about anything, you bring up Brad Pitt.
Do you want to dock with Brad Pitt? No? I
don't want to dock Brad Pitt. I God, how many
we're five minutes into the show. You'm a docking already, dude. No,

(07:44):
because I'm a little upset, I'm not. I'm not. I
take that back. I'm not upset. I'm a little uh
disturbed because this docking with Leo thing has gone on.
It's it's it's it's fire. It's a lot of things
are catching fire on the podcast. You know what else
is called fire? What everyone's telling me their favorite new
song is what you're trying to get into a day

(08:05):
of shoon. You're trying to I love the fact that
everybody's spelling it correctly too. Yeah, I bet they google
that shit. They didn't want to be disrespectful to you.
By the way. You know what, um, not only is
that song fire, let's be honest, but um, a lot
of people don't know there's I've I've written a second
I had not just recently, but back in the day
when I came up with this song, there was a
second line to it. Do you know what it is?

(08:26):
The thing you're trying to get into one day of shoon?
What is ant? It was better to aldway? No, No,
that's the second fucking line of the song. Don't tell
me whine lyrics, just trying to get into trying to
do two three four the thing you're trying to get

(08:49):
into day shoon? Comma what is it? So people know
when they're writing it down? Oh man, we gotta get
someone to fucking remix this song for us. I just
think I should be a ring tone. I would I
would not mind that being a ring tone. Come up.
In fact, somebody named their kitten a Dao shoon. I

(09:10):
know they could sing what you're trying to get into,
trying to joell. Can you tell the ring tone folks
that we would like to make um the dao shoot
song and ring tone, I can. I think there may
be a limitation to only one ring tone up at

(09:30):
a time. Or wasn't a naming thing. No, we have
like four up. We've got the theme song, We've got
um No, sorry, we've got the theme song. We've got
Donald's just for notification. Why would there be a limit
to ring tone? No, it was a you're right, it
was a naming problem because we had the they were liking.

(09:51):
Oh yeah, so my bad. I think you're trying to
ring tone twice. All right, let me let me lay
it down clean everybody for the ring Everybody, keep it down, everybody, everybody,
keep it down. I'm gonna eat this clean. Here I go, me, me, me, me, me, me, me,
Just do the first first. You don't need to do
the second verse. Let me fucking warm up, please. Mommy

(10:11):
made me mash my m and m's. Mommy made me
mash my m and ms. The lips, the tip of
the teen, the tongue, the lips, the tip of the teeth,
the tongue. Whether want to be cold, weather would be hot.
We'll be together whatever the weather, whether we like it
or not. Okay, i'mra that's really fast. Whether the weather
is cold, whether the weather is hot, will be together
the weather. But the weather, whether you like it or not.
What are whether it be cold weather, whether it be hot,
We'll be to get the whatever the weather, whether we
like it or not. Peter Pipers the pick a pecker.
Picker picked the peck of pickup peppers, peck a pickup
peppers and Peter Piper the pickle peper pickup. What you

(10:32):
trying to get into a dation? What you're trying to
get intu a dation? What's trying to get indutuation? Am
I gonna see me there? It is perfect pitch what
you're trying to get into a damn shoon or what
you're trying to do? I like it to put some growl,
and I did. I put a little growl on it.

(10:53):
If it's gonna be a ring tone, people deserve a
little growl. That's fire, okay, Dan, make me sound good.
But I don't want reaver, but maybe a little bit
of audits. No, no, no, I don't need Autit two
and it was perfect. It's perfect. So many things I
wanted to talk to you about. It actually took notes.
I took Now the Johnny's not in here. We don't
have to fucking Um, I got my Xbox set up.

(11:13):
That's great. A lot of people wing in on the
games I should play, um, and please continue to suggest games.
So just to be clear, I have a brand new
Xbox one. I like. Um, I learned it's called a
third person right, that's what it's third person shooter. Third
person shooter. I don't I like over the shoulder. Um.

(11:33):
I don't like spells and fantasy stuff like I don't
want to know about spells. So an example is hit Man.
You guys have said Red Dead Redemption, right, that's how
I caught and yeah, and Joel, you had suggested the
one where you're it travels through time and you're a killer.

(11:54):
What's it called Assassin's Creed? Assassin's Creed? So if anybody
has any more games like that? Now, what if I
want to play versus a friend of mine in my house?
What's games like Red Dead Redemption are good for that?
They have an online that's really awesome where you can
go on missions and still do really, but if there's
a friend who's in my pod, who's sitting in my

(12:15):
living room, can I can I can I play him?
What's a good game to play him? But then you'd
have to play go ahead? Oh you know. I don't
want to interrupt, but they're games called overcooked. Overcooked as
a team cooking game. One of the games that Donald mentioned,
Castle Crashers is a fun you know sport or fun
you know team game. And then my favorite game is
called Rocket League. And Rocket League is called as a

(12:36):
soccer in cars with rockets on the back. That's you
might want to get into some sports games like FIFA.
I was gonna get a tennis that's cool too, That's
really cool. Yeah, hey pa play you? Can I play
you tennis over the internet. Yes, let's do that, because
I'll fucking crush you. Look at his face. This is

(13:00):
is Joel. Look, I'll fist is. If I can't beat
you in sports in real life, I'm gonna breaking crush
you on. You can probably beat me in tennis right now, man,
in real life? Yep, I probably could. Okay, that's one thing.
Once I got and then and then I took notes
because I had so much to say today. Um, Joel,
the game you had said that you loved On the switch,

(13:20):
A lot of people said it's like the prettiest game
they've ever seen, and I need to buy a switch
just to play that Zelda game. Yeah, yeah, yeah, everyone, Well,
Joel and Daniel waited in heavily. They agree with you.
We agree with you. One now. I tried to get
a switch, by the way, and they're they're sold out
or marked up. Like I said to Donald, these are

(13:40):
things really six hundred bucks and he said, no, that's
like a mark up. Now you can't even get them.
You can't even get him on the interwebs. You can,
you could get a Don't do it, Daniel, don't do it,
you say in a ziplock bag. Absolutely, you don't play
yours anymore. It's I mean I I play a lot
of games, and so it's you know, kind of just
sitting here for the time being. Okay, Well that you

(14:03):
bring it over in your full ppe again and just
be happy to dud. You'll love Zelda, you'll really love
Breath of the While. And if he has just gonna
get a switch, because I I they're like nine hundred
dollars right now. You need to switch. And then you
go back and be like I didn't. I said, no,
wizardy stuff Zelda's got a little bit of magic it.
It's a lot of magic in it. It's a lot

(14:24):
They're gonna be like, would you like to cast a spell? No? Okay,
all I'm saying is with Red Dead Redemption too. I
think there's something about the cinematic quality of that. Yeah, yeah,
I like you know some of the some of the
people on my love it. You can go hunt, you
can hunt. Some of the people on my socials were
saying that I would like this game or that game

(14:46):
because they had a cinematic quality, And that's true. I
would like that Red Dead. You would love Red Dead.
You're right about that, Daniel, because then you could play
the actual You don't even have to play online to start.
You could play the actual story mode. And that's I'm
gonna play online. What's the difference of playing online, Well,
you play with other people and then there's different missions
and you could create your own character. Do you want

(15:07):
to do that with me this weekend? Do you want
to go on a mission with me? Absolutely, Let's do
a mission. Let's kill a bear, a virtual bear, everybody.
I do not believe in killing real bears unless they're
chasing you. Um. Michelle Branch followed me on Twitters swear
to gee, and I was thinking I'm gonna follow her back,

(15:30):
and I was thinking about dming her and saying, will
you come play everywhere on the podcast? That would be
the best day ever. Turn me inside out so I
can say, well, is fanning herself? Everybody, shit, this is
the power of this podcast, this podcast always. I saw

(15:51):
Michelle Branch followed me, and I was like, oh my god.
And I didn't fall back immediately because I was nervous.
And then I thought I would present to you guys
the idea of dmming her. Hey, since we're fans, would
you consider coming on and playing everywhere on the show. Donald,
That would be that would be amazing if we could
start a little concert series on Yeah, that's such a

(16:13):
good idea. We are on, we are with heart, we
are waking of which speaking by the way we should
we should, And speaking of that, Um, I want to
end the show today with this amazing song. I sent
it to you, Donald. Um it's by my girlfriend's brother.
Now you might think Ozach, you're bias it's your girlfriend's brother,
but Toby Sebastian is so talented and I genuinely love

(16:35):
his music and I was like on the treadmill today
working out to this song called Number one Lover. It's
gonna be one of my big summer jams. And if
it's all right with you, Donald, I thought we could
five six seven eight at the end of the show
into it. Yeah, that's fine, let's start dis concience. It's fire.
It's a fake, doctor's real friends. You guys are gonna
want to add it to your playlist for for just

(16:56):
summer bops. I think that's what the kids call it,
or your workout play this because I was rocking out
to it on the treadmill today. So this is what
we're gonna do, guys. We're gonna start a little concert series.
We're gonna come up with a name of rading. Absolutely,
we could have a bunch of people on this is
something that we're gonna do. We are with iHeart I
heeart freaking handles all music. Yeah, maybe figure it out

(17:18):
legally and they will make this happen for you guys.
So I think if we just ask people obviously that
handles the legal or if they're not a giant, you know,
artist and there are, friend, I'm sure that we're allowed
to play them. Um, yeah, I think if we just
ask permission, I think that's it's just about permission. I assume, right,
my my knowledge and this isn't isn't that well, you know,

(17:39):
we can't just play, you know, a song, But if
we know the person or we ask permission, I think
we can play the song. There it is. And my
my friend, I think he'll be fine with I think
he'll be thrilled because, by the way, this podcast is huge.
I don't know if you guys realize this, right. I
got another foul and I got another love letter from
Will saying, holy shit, you guys are on fuego. So

(18:02):
there's people all over the world listening to this thing,
and we appreciate them. Thank you guys, so Mike you
so much. We thought it would be like our moms
and maybe eleven people, but this well, I knew it
wouldn't be my mom. I knew it wouldn't be my mom,
my mom, or my wife. I think my mom may
have given up. I think she started and and but
I gotta tell you no, it's just a great feeling.

(18:22):
It's a great feeling. How many of you are listening
to this and whenever will from my heart sends Donald
and I an email with with with holy shit, somewhere
in the paragraph it's a good feeling. I love it.
You know what we should do? Five six, seven, eight
Stories about show we made about a bunch of docs

(18:42):
and nurses said stories. So yet around here, yea, around here?
Did you get that new T Swift album? T Swift?

(19:04):
That first jam is fire? That first jam is fire.
She's got a song with Bonnie Vair which I really
liked a lot of them. If you heard that one yet,
I've listened to a little bit of it. I listened
to the first song about what's the first song? I
think it's called like the first one or something like that. Yeah,
where it's like, you know, uh yo, I knew you'd

(19:25):
come back all of that stuff. I knew you'd come
back that. Like, that's the end of it, dude. She's
on some writing. She's got some writing in her right now. Dude.
She's not goodsting around. She's good and you know what
she she made it sort of a I mean, I
didn't listen a whole thing, but it's sort of acoustic
ee and piano ee and spoke man's can't you can't
say that that girl is not talented. If you're out there,

(19:46):
if there's a person out there, you might not love
her style, but you cannot be a human being and
not say that that girl has talent. This is the
conversation I was having, because me and my wife have
this conversation all the time because I kind of flip
flop when it comes to Taylor. Like I remember when
it when she first came out, I was like, that's
like my little I want my daughter to be Taylor Swift.

(20:06):
And then she started tattletaling on you know, who she's
dating and everything and songs. I was like, I'm not
really into that. Yeah, but let me tell you something
right now. The songs that she sings, the way she writes, now,
she's a she's a modern day She's a modern day poet. Man.
She she is a modern day especially knowing that she

(20:28):
writes her own stuff too. I mean, the young lady
has got some tremendous songwriting skills. I'm understand that she's
writing the lyrics on her own. I think she's got
she's got lots of collaborators with the music. If I'm
not mistaken, it does. I don't care how the instruments. Yeah,
think she does like a lot of guitar and piano stuff.
I mean her parents are in the recording industry, which

(20:49):
is how she sort of got involved. And like to
your guys, this credit her nineteen eighty nine album, which
I think is the album right, No, there's a album
that one in this one. But the Night Night album
sold so well and did so like banger numbers like
other artists, like did an entire rendition of the nineteen
eighty nine album, like just copied it front to back,
and like like, so she's been on that pop scene.

(21:10):
That that that that that record's got so many dope
songs from Shake It Off to h got a long
list of ex lovers. Dude, I got one of songs
on my current workout playlists. I want to tell you
which one it is, because this, by the way, my
workout playlist. I really I'm gonna come through and make
a workout mix for for for the people, because I mean,

(21:31):
there's Avril Levine complicated on here. By the way, here's
a really good song that you guys probably don't know
by Wheezer called Feels Like Summer and uh, I highly
recommend that song because it is a great summer bop.
As the kids say, wait, what's my Taylor Swift song
on this? Oh, you need to calm down. I like
that us somebody that way don't know, but you've taken
chots at me like it's patch and I'm just like, damn,

(21:54):
it's seven a yam. You know I'm gonna be honest
with you. Your gym playlist and my gym playlist are
completely different. I know that we've established that, but I
have a feeling because you like a lot of this
girl pop shit too. Do you just want to hide
it in front of our listeners. I'm not hiding anything
in front of our listens. I feel like if you
you might turn off DMX from one of your workouts

(22:16):
and put on Avril Levine, Avril Labrine. Don't get me
hype like DMX get me high. Just wait till you
hear complicated with some bass. That shit is so slow.
Listen you watch did you watch them that I sent you?
The I hate it when you don't reply to it
really hurts my feeling. I thought our listeners couldn't believe

(22:37):
that how many times you don't reply to me? Dude? Listen, man,
here's the thing. I said. It's always nice stuff. It's
always It's not like, hey man, here's a request to
do something. It's like, hey man, there's this DMX Snoop
thing that's on. I think you're gonna like it. No reply,
no reply, It was dope, I don't So you didn't
watch it. You did watch it interesting and you didn't

(22:58):
even say I'm already watching love you thanks for to
recommend that was you know, those two got so many hits,
it's ridiculous. Uh. I love DMX, I love Snoop Dogg.
Shout out to the mouth. Should we get into the show.
Let's get into the show. Do you want to do
the breakdown? Oh yeah, Tip, I'm a little woozy, as

(23:20):
the kids say nowadays, you're you're woozy. No woozy's when
you've gone hard and then you get tired. No Woozy's
when I'm a little drunk a little bit, and then
you take a little nap. And it's not that I
take a little nap. The booze forces me to nap. Well,
what my puppy does is she sprints around the yard.
Sprince sprince, sprince, sprince s prince, and then it's like

(23:42):
her batteries are dead and she collapses and she's woozy
and now and then when you when you're woozy, you're
also kind of like disoriented, like your body's like I
should be standing but I can't, right, And then you
yell at your friend, I'm woozy. You're ready? Yeah, get
the stopwatchanys stand by, Donald, Get am I stop watch? Okay,
I'm not not world clock stop watch? Okay, and go.

(24:06):
This episode is about being humbled. JD and Carl are
both very high on their horses and mess with the alpha.
In the hospital, Elliot has not only been cut off
financially from her father, but also as Mix diagnosed the patient.
The three of them experienced the rise and falls of reality,
meaning there will be days in life where luck is

(24:26):
on your side and days when it's not. The question
is can you adjust and keep it moving forward? Beautiful,
beautiful twenty seven seconds. Nicely done, nicely done. This is
a very good, very good episode. You liked this episode,
Yeah I did? You didn't? I laughed, okay, because you
you got your phase on a little bit. But I

(24:48):
was all right to get phase OneD in this episode. Okay, Now,
I thought the scene at the end with Johnny C
and I is one of the better scenes of the
show thus far. Yeah. You know, my wife, she got
she watched the show with me. This is her first time.
She doesn't She's never really watched Scrubs before, so this
is maybe her third episode that she's actually seen. Yeah,

(25:09):
my girlfriend totals and watched it either, so I can relate. Yeah,
and she was like, oh my god, I just teared up.
It's like, okay, yeah, I can tell you. I got
to be honest with you listeners and you my compatriots.
I think that that scene at the end of this
episode where doctor Cox comes in and has an honest
moment with me. It's not a very long scene. It's

(25:29):
probably forty five seconds if that is really moving, and
Johnny C is really good in it, and I think
I'm proud of the way I am in it too,
And it's Scrubs at its best, which was just dropping
in and having a really frank, emotional, but honest conversation.
And I got goose bumps and it was very moving
to me. Yeah, it was to me too. You know,

(25:50):
you were lucky. JD was very lucky this this this
episode in the beginning, and then he was unlucky, and
it was really it was really interesting to see the
dynamic of of how he takes things. Uh, he saved
a patient's life in the beginning, and he's overjoyed. He

(26:13):
loses a patient and JD's such a good doctor. Now
granted there's there's stuff behind it, Like you know, he's
he wants to be. He still wants to be the
best he possibly can be. But he goes to the
morgue to check out, Okay, what did I do wrong?
How did I mess up? What went wrong here? And
just turns out it wasn't his day. And I thought,

(26:34):
even though it's subtle and he doesn't respond in tears
and he's not breaking, he's not all broken up about
the passing of the patient, the fact that he cared
enough to wonder, Okay, why did I make a mistake?
So where did I make a mistakes? So I don't
make it the next time? Really really important. That's one
of the things I can get lost in all the
la zaniness that's happening, is that JD's a really good

(26:57):
doctor and also strives to be an extraordinary doctor. Right,
and so when he when he feels he may have
fucked up. He's just obsessing about it and wants to
learn and wants to wants to be better and wants
to be great. So I don't know, I just really
like that. I love it when the show um just
drops in and has just just a scene where people

(27:19):
are really honest and straight. And I thought that scene
at the end, Actually it's funny. When I when I
thought Johnny c was coming on this episode today, I
thought it was like, oh, I bet he because I
asked him, I said, hey, man, we want to have
you back, you know, pick pick which one you want
to come on for. And when I saw that scene,
I go, oh, I bet he wanted to come on
for this one because he's really good in that scene.
He's really good in the whole episode. And it turns

(27:41):
out I was wrong, you were You know, the whole
thing is really about you know, what JD goes through.
But it's not because even in stories where he seems
to be the main character in the whole episode, where
it seems like it's based on him, the story really
is and it's about who he's connect to, you know
what I mean, It's about who's connected to him. So

(28:03):
like We had Tom Kavanaugh on just recently, great episode
by the way, and uh, you really believe that it's
the show? Like when watching it at first, I was like, oh,
this is a show. This episode's about how JD reacts
to his brother. No, this episode really is about Tom Kavanaugh,
you know what I mean, It's not about what. It's

(28:23):
not about I don't know, it's it's it's it's I'm
having a hard time explaining it right now. But I
just feel like JD is, even though he's the leader,
he's the lead on the show, the show is never
really about him, and this is one of those episodes
where it was about him and was about you know,
how how how serious he takes every how it's serious

(28:49):
he takes his job in the hospital, Yeah said whatever, whatever.
You can hate on me all you want. It's just
it's just it's just, you know, now I'm watching it
from a different point of view. Before I was watching
it or not watching it because I was on it.
And now that we've started this whole podcast thing, it's like, well,

(29:12):
you know, what is Bill trying to say? What are
the writers trying to say when they're making this. I
get that this has a long run, and it's going
to be on for a really long time. But I
feel like every episode, some somebody's trying to say something,
trying to some messages, trying to come here and also
make it universal, because obviously this is an extreme work environment.

(29:32):
This is they're literally dealing with life and death. But
make it universal for people who no matter what your
job is, no matter what your relationship status is, that
no matter what would country live in that there's certain
just truths about being a human and being in love
and having best friends, and and and striving to do
great both in life and in your job that are

(29:53):
that are universal and and and the show really attempts
to tease all that out so we can all share
a common story. But this episode, you know, it almost
felt subliminal, you know what I mean. It's like if
you're not really paying attention, you don't pick up on that.
You just pick up on the jokes and the fact
that Cox is, you know, back with Jordan, and you
don't really dig that deep into it. That's what really,

(30:15):
to be honest with you, this whole uh having to
summarize the story in thirty seconds, that's what that's doing
for me now, because now it's like, all right, what
is this about? What is what is the writer trying
to say in this story? It's not just about there's
a funny joke at two minutes into the it's it's
more than that. It's about, you know, overall, there's a

(30:36):
message that I'm trying to make clear for all of
the viewers. And this is one of those episodes like
ever since the last episode, I'm like, all right, what
are we trying to Yeah, that's true, that's true, but
they all have some underlying message. But but I think
you've been good. You've been good at teasing out what
it is, even more than more than the voiceovers do.
This is the episode that Neil Flynn is not in.

(30:58):
I forgot We we figured out what the reason was.
Do you remember what it was? So they didn't have
to pay him? But why there was it? Something they're
not trying to see just Neil's salary because he's not
a regular at this point. Oh, I think if he
had done X amount of episodes, they would have had
to bump him up to a higher salary. Right, he

(31:19):
didn't become an official regular, I guess until season three.
That can't be true because they put him in the
in the in the rejected new title sequence, I don't
I don't know, dude, And the credit on this episode too,
I think. But didn't Neil say wait, didn't Neil say something?
You guys? When he was on that there was a
quick scooter joke that he he wrote in he and

(31:40):
he wiped out and then um and I was an
electric scooter and then they ended up cutting that out.
That's why he's credited, but he's not in the episode
because it was just one quick pop but they edited
it out. That makes sense. I'm trying to remember it.
We've done so many of these, trying to call all
of Oh, by the way, speaking of of of trivia,

(32:00):
I went on Scrubs Wiki today as I normally do
before the episode, and I scroll down to trivia, which
is the section I enjoy the most, and the top
the top bullet point is loving the podcast, Zach, exclamation point,
all the love in the world to you, and Donald
happy to keep answering trivia and hell no, I'd never

(32:23):
sell those Funco pops. So there you go. I think
we have a clear answer from from Trevor Wiki that
he's down okay TV. But I think you know he wasn't.
He wasn't hiding messages in the Scrubs wiki until now.
So I think it's all this talk of the sign
Funko Pops that's really made him, made him tickled. I'm

(32:43):
just gonna keep it one hundred. We had to bribe
him to get him. Well, we don't know that, Donald,
we don't know that. You don't have to keep it
one hundred. You could keep it a dollar fifty. That's
more than a hundred. No, one hundred dollars is keep
it one hundred is one hundred dollars. I said you
could keep it a dollar fifty. One pennies is a dollar,
keep it one hundred. But I thought what people were

(33:04):
saying one hundred, they meant one hundred dollars, not one
hundred nineties. It's not keeping one hundred dollars, it's keep
it one hundred percent with me. Oh, keeping one hundred
percent with you, dog got it? Okay, So I'm gonna
keep it one hundred with you. Trevor Wicky is down
af to participate as long as he gets the funkos. Yeah,

(33:27):
well the funkos have been signed. Dan is gonna take you. No, no, no, no,
Where does Trevor Wicky live? Don't know? I mean, what
state do we know? Ad a double check? He's gonna
send me his address, lady. Okay, well, Trevor Wicki, you've
got some signed Funco pops headed towards is the first
one I've ever signed. I didn't know whether to sign
on the box or on the actual figuring? Donald, did

(33:49):
you sign the box the figure? I signed the box.
I didn't sign the figuring. Okay, I signed the box too. Yeah?
You know, you know you just made Trevor Wicky a
lot of money. He could no, but he just promised
in the secret message on the Scrubs wiki that he
wasn't gonna sell them. I believe scrub. I believe Trevor
Wicki is a man of his word. Zack, you don't
believe Trevor Wicki is a man of his word. Trevor Wicki,

(34:12):
I need you to hide me and the next week's episode,
I need you to hide me another message in Scrubs
WICKI that you got that you pinky swear that you
won't sell them. You're saying that's how much could be worth? Really?
Come on, you've never signed one, so that's one in one.
There's only one of the one of one. Yeah, and
I won't be signing anymore because in COVID, who the
hell is going to come up to me and ask

(34:32):
me to sign them? So it's he's got an exclusive.
Do you know what that means? That it's worth what
fifty bucks? It's priceless. He's not gonna sell it. The
man loves Scrubs and he's got the only signed j
D Scrubs Funko Pop. Come on, that's a treasure. And
if you don't sign it and you die, it's price.
By the way, Trevor Wicky, make sure that you Oh,

(34:53):
if I die, then it's worth some money. If I die,
it's like it's like a bos No. That's like twenty
million dollars. I think it might even if I die,
the only signed j D Scrubs Bob could be worth
like a thousand bucks. And and everybody knows Trevor has
it too. Trevor, are you good with the martial arts? Well,

(35:15):
we're not gonna say where the guy lives. We're not
gonna be people aren't gonna be coming into his house
for seventeen twenty six Ridge row Way, No, I don't know, dude.
Let's take a break. We'll be right back after these
fine words, Yo, John Michelle, and to be getting up

(35:36):
the show, dude. Yes. So the first face you see,
the angry neighbor is John Michelle. He is one of
our editors. He won the uh he won the Emmy
for editing Scrubs? Is he the only person to ever
win an Emmy four scrubs? Good question? Did casting win?
It's a good question. That's find out we were we were,
we were, We were nominated a bunch but we always

(35:56):
lost to other other more popular shows. Do you want
to answer as a bride's always a bride'smaid, never a bride?
Do you want to ask Bill this one? This is
something he might enjoy or should we ask Trevor Wicki? No,
Trevor Wicki isn't This is something he just said that
he wants to participate. You let's ask him like some
like real trivia stuff. This is something that Bill would

(36:17):
like to talk about. You know that olides for creating
such a wonderful show. I remember one year we got
like nominated for like a bunch of categories, but not
I don't know, I don't we never want anything, I
don't think. Well, dude, I remember the one time we
wouldson Bateman and beat me on one year and then
um Tony Shaleu beat me like every year every year.
I remember when fucking Shaloub you want every he beat everybody.

(36:41):
I've never seen an episode of Monk. I'm sure it's
a wonderful show. But have you ever seen episode of
a Monk? I've never watched a Monk in my life.
I've never seen episode a Monk. Okay, well, there you go.
Joel's the one who loves Monk. I think seniors love
Monk and Joel. Seniors and joiors and Joel. It's like
Matt Locke. Yeah, Daniel, have you ever seen an episode

(37:02):
of Monk? Yeah, yeah, I've seen a few episodes. It
must be great. I mean, the man's a wonderful actor
and yeah, but he just he's one of the best.
Man come on, No, I'm not. You know who my
favorite is, though, Like listen, you know I love Leo,
you know I love Denzel Stanley Tucci. Oh my, oh yeah,

(37:23):
he's great. I love me so much so that Zach
was doing a play in New York City and he
was doing it with uh who was it Sutton Foster plot? Oh, no,
which one it was? Well, you're talking about the play
I did with Sutton Foster, Bobby kind of Vali and
Ri a Greener. Yes, that was called Trust. And at
the time, you guys were, you know, would go to

(37:44):
that little diner or bar or whatever it is you
guys called a diner. My girlfriend calls it a diner too.
It's not a diner, it's a speakeasy. Okay, well it
looks like a diner. I'm gonna just keep it one hundred.
And because she's called it, I didn't. She called it
a speakeasy diner, and I was like, why do you
a diner? It's a speakeasy. Anyway, So we're there and

(38:04):
Tucci and Shalub we're doing a play together with Justin
National Treasure. What's his name, Bartha Bartha. Yeah. I love
that you call them justin National Treasure, Justin because I
couldn't think of Bartha, who later went to star in
my first play, All New People, which we performed off Broadway.

(38:25):
And you're going anyway. My point is I made an
ass of myself that night to Tony Shalub. I met,
I meet, I meet not Tony Shalub to Stanley Tucci.
You know I have good celebrity encounters. They're always in
batter because when I meet people who I have get nervous.
I get. So it's not that I get nervous, And
if you were to speak easy, you probably had a few, absolutely,

(38:46):
but I get like I get when I see people
who I appreciate and whose work moves me, I want
them to know that that happened for some reason, and
I cannot keep it to myself. And I know how
I I react to people when they are that way
towards me, and how I'm like it. You are just
a little too extra right now. That's me. I can't

(39:08):
help it. Um And I damn near hit on the dude,
like I'm sure he was like this guy wants to
freaking make out with me right now, Like I was.
I was like, I love you so much. Everything you
do is been the best. I can't get over it
you have, Like I was, like, your range is ridiculous.

(39:30):
I've seen you play gangster. I've seen you play every
you know, every every spectrum of you know, whatever it
is that is human out there, I've seen you. Like
I was like, over over myself over him, and oh
my god, I could see in his face he was like,
oh God, please get this guy away from me. Right,

(39:51):
And then somebody hinted him the way the reason made
people go to this place is so they don't get
bothered by people like you. Yeah, no doubt. And uh,
then I think some he spilled to him, like, yo,
that's Donald Fazon. He was on scrubs. He was in clueless.
He's he's an actor, he's done some work, he's successful.
And so he comes over to me and tries to
make amends because at first he was like, yo, dude,

(40:14):
back the fuck up. Oh he thought he was dismissive
of you, very dismissive. He would look for Stanley Tucci.
Then you were saying he was dismissive of you until
he knew you were famous. We were at a bar
drunk and some stranger comes up to you and does that,
I don't care who you are, you're gonna be like,
dude back. I'm not trying to say we We also
don't know what you were like. I mean, you might
be you might have been like I'm saying, I'm right,

(40:37):
and I'm just saying you saw me with Tom Kavanaugh
amplify that with alcohol, right, it's another story, like I'm
probably spitting on the man, like apes of my breath
was well, it might not have been bad, but it
was definitely hot and in his face, you know what
I mean. So he probably needed a napkin after you
spoke to him. Just wipe right. If Corona is, If

(41:00):
Corona was back, then he would probably attack. It would
be like one of those Karen moments where you know,
you attack. Oh my god, did any of the Karen
and the pizzeria getting Oh my god, there's so many Karen's.
There's a lot of Karen's now, there are a lot.
There are so many Karens that there's so many Karens
that people named Karen are like, please stop with the
turning our name into a derogatory statement. You know what's funny.

(41:22):
I watched the Karen video of this crazy woman out,
you know, and they're always about I might have a
right the Constitution says I don't have to wear a mask.
They're always just fucking batch it. And the one I
watched is the pizzeria and this guy started calling or
like he was screaming at it. Don't come anywhere near me. Karen, Like,
if people are starting to Karen in the videos, he
was like, you back up, Karen, all right, should we

(41:43):
get into the show down. We're barely talking about the show.
You're reading them in the opening scene, a skin Diver magazine. Now,
I don't know why you're reading skin Diver magazine, do you.
I think you know he's looking at a little bit
of you know, it's like Maxim. It's not Maxim. It's
like a magazine for people that go like free diving.

(42:06):
I think it was just a prop on the on
the on the on the coffee table, and you probably
picked it up and decided your character was reading a
magazine skin Diver. Didn't sound like that to me for
some reason, some reason, when you said skin diver just now,
it sounded like turk I was looking at, you know, oh,
like a Playboy Maxim kind of thing. No, it wasn't that.
If you look at the cover, it's like it looks
like a diving thing. Okay, you know, hey, props or props.

(42:33):
I think you know, we're not allowed to just hold
up any real magazines, so there's often like bullshit magazines
lying around, and I imagine you were like, maybe Turk's
reading a magazine. Yeah, maybe. I don't read any magazines anymore.
I don't when's the last time you read a magazine.
I subscribe to Architectural Digests because I love architecture and design.

(42:56):
I subscribe to UM American Cinematographer because I love cinematography
and geek out on camera toys. But you can get
all of these online, I know, But I like a
physical thing to hold still. And then what do you
do after I get this? I get the Sunday New
York Times and read that on Sundays. And what do

(43:16):
you do after when you what do you do with
it after you're done reading it? Um? What do you
do after you're done reading it? I throw them out?
I mean I recycled them like a good citizen. I
like a physical magazine. I used to buy them in
the airport when I was flying. I don't really do
that anymore. You got your phone. You used to read, Um,

(43:37):
what did you say the What was the magazine that
you said was Black Maxim King? I used to read King.
You used to love King. I still love King. Wasn't
your co star Stacy Dash wasn't she on the cover
of King. She was on the cover of King. I

(43:57):
remember it was very people owned that issue. Yeah, I
think it was a very naughty photograph if I recall. Listen,
you know when Stacy Dash does anything that is naughty,
people pay attention. Yeah, she's um, she she she, She's
a unique gal. That's Stacy Dash. We have a picture

(44:18):
we ran into her, right, she was wearing a cowboy hat. Yeah, dude, no,
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah like the cowboy hat. Yes,
all right, let's let's go off Stacy Dash and um
talk about David Copperfield. I remember it when he did
that was pretty cool. That was very cool. Yeah. And
John Ritter also back on this. I didn't even know

(44:40):
I would have gotten it wrong that John Ritter did
another cameo. This one was was a quick little fantasy
pop that I that I learned from Scrubs Wiki was
done on the set of his show Eight Simple Rules.
So I imagine they just went to his sitcom set
and shot that quick little pop. But I had no
idea I would have totally gotten the tribute wrong that
the John ended up being in more than one episode.

(45:02):
I love the fact that that JD's dad never bought
him a whole bike. He just brought him parts of
the bike and he never had any money, right, and eventually,
you know, JD would have the full bike. He was like,
maybe later we could take the bike bicycle bell around
the block for spin. Yeah, And then I come back
and I go, I never did get that kickstand. But
I want to talk about Coffield because I remember Copperfield

(45:23):
rolled up in like a tour bus, and I thought
that was so baller that, like, you know, the guy.
I don't know why he maybe he doesn't fly. I
assume he's based in Vegas, as a lot of famous
magicians are, and maybe he doesn't fly, or maybe he
did his show and said let's hop on the tour
bus and I'll go to sleep and take me to
take me to Hollywood to do my cameo. But I

(45:46):
just remember that I thought it was cool at the
time that Copperfield rolled up in a big old ball
or tour bus. That's crazy. You risk so much, especially
if you got to be back in Vegas in a
certain amount of time, you know what I mean. It's
pretty cool, man, if you had that, if you had
the kind of money I imagine he has, and you're
and you got to do your show, and you're like, oh,
we gotta go to do that cameo on Scrubs. All right, Jammy,

(46:07):
let's take the bus. I'm gonna go to sleep. We'll
wake up there. Yeah, sure, pretty baller it is. That's
gonna be like you and I and Daniel and Joel
when we're doing our our our tour of fake a
European tour. Are European tour? Yeah? Well a European tour.
I think it's more more realistically gonna happens before the
North American tour because you know, um, on account of

(46:30):
the we're fuckedness. But dude, holy cow, JD gets it right.
JD gets it right in this episode. Yeah, in the
beginning of the episode, JD, it's a big swing and
gets it right and gets lucky necrotizing fasciitis. Have you
ever done that before? Have you ever taken Have you

(46:51):
ever been like, all right, look, I have no idea
what I'm gonna do. I'm just gonna go for broke.
See what happens. Like have you ever swung for the
fences with no clue? Yeah? The ball defenses all the time,
but with no clue, with no preparation. He had an inkling.
He had an inkling. He had a gut reaction because
he had seen this on a TV show about necizing
neckortizing fasciitis, and doctor Cox says, that's fucking the rarest

(47:14):
thing that never happens. Shut up, and he happens to
be right, and so he had an inkling of a clue.
I feel like in life, there's times that I've taken
some big swings and they and they've worked out. I
think that's what Jade's doing. He's taken a big ass swing.
What if it's an ecortizing fasciitis And he guessed, right,
that's ballsy, man. It's a it's an amazing Uh, it's

(47:38):
a you know, I you know, it's a It's not
even a gut feeling. It's just Tim saying it could
be this, and I if I'm right because of the similarities.
Holy shit. And he just happened to be watching that
TV show. I mean, think about it. He saved that
guy's life because he just happened to be watching that show. Yeah, amazing.

(48:00):
Dete Gordon has the line finally in The Sexes, his
pooka shells are intact, are they on his neck. Yeah,
it's a choker like Joel Joel, you know, like Joelle said,
the chokers are fire. He's got like a choker, pooka
shell choker, which I didn't even know was a thing.
Do you want to do you want to ask him
about it? I'm sure we can get Yeah, why don't

(48:21):
we ask Deonte? That's a nice the new segment. Here's
here's a here's a new segment we're gonna try out today, guys,
it's ask Deonte Gordon. Dude, what the heck was up
with the pooka shells? Were they in style back then?
And if so, why did you opt for the choker?
Why not the uh like the the the the twenty

(48:42):
four inch? Yeah, Deonte, we'd like to know. Um, we
don't believe in two thousand and two that puka shells
were in style. Maybe we're wrong? And why are you
wearing them as a choker? We're puka shells in fashion?
You know, in my heart I want to say yes,
but I'm pretty sure two thousand and two would be like, no, dude,

(49:05):
it's not, it's not. Yeah, it was a choker. It
was a little tight, a little tight on the neck.
Can't lie. But it was because I got it as
a kid in Hawaii and I had found it in
an old drawer years later, and I put it on
one day and the class got stuck and I had
to go to set, and I decided, you know what,

(49:27):
I'm just gonna rock it because I couldn't think of
anything friendlier than a guy wearing a puka shell necklace.
And Scrubs was coming a big show, so you know,
I want to stand out a little bit. And you
know what's friendlier than the guy in a puka shell necklace.
I couldn't think of anything nothing friendlier. All right, guys,
I love you even when you're clowning. Thank you, Deonte,

(49:48):
Thank you Deonte. That's our new segment, asked Deonte, who
to refresh your memory? Was Donald stand In and also
our friend and cohort on the Scrub set and in
this episode has two lines as and he has a
name we learned Frank Mark. No, I think it's Mark,
and that's why he's pissed at me. His name is Frank.
Got it hey, and that we never knew that Deante

(50:11):
the Orderly's character had a name Frank. I think this
would probably be the last time Deonta's on the show. No,
that's not true. You think we'll have him back again
on the podcast, as as Frank Oh on Scrubs. I'm sure,
I'm sure of it. Um, Alan Ruck is on the show.

(50:39):
Most of you might remember him from Ferris Bueller's Day Off. Yes,
when Cameron was in Egypt's land, Let my Cameron, God
says these things. Let my Cameron go. I know that
Cameron's so uptight that if you shove a piece of
coal up his ass in a month, you'd have a diamond.

(51:00):
Is it a month or two weeks? I don't know.
I don't remember. It's on something like that. In two
weeks you have a diamond. That's a very woody joke. Um,
he's a very funny man. He was on Spin City
and this continues the Bill Lawrence tradition of asking cast
members from his old show Spin City to come to cameos.
He had, Heather, we had. We eventually have them all,

(51:23):
most of them, I believe. Um, Richard Kind, I have Yabba,
I have Yeah, Yes, i'd been to the zoo go on. Yes.
He said like this is only you would only get
this disease if you had spent time in some rare
part of Africa amongst amongst these animals, I have been
to the zoo. Go on, I have been to the zoo.

(51:45):
Go on. Richard Kind is very good gopher. I'll bet
you didn't know this trivia George Clooney's best friend. I didn't.
I wonder if he got some of that money for that.
I think he did. Oh no, no, that. But the
you know the famous anecdote where George Clooney gave all
his friends a million bucks. That wasn't after the tequila well,

(52:07):
I think I think. I think it was after he
accidentally stumbled into a billion dollars tequila business. It was
before it was. Imagine you're sitting around with your friends
and you're like, basically, as I understand the Cossa Migos
story is that George and Randy Gerber and a bunch
of I think it was just George and Randy Geber.
They love tequila, and they were like, you know what
we have the means like, no one's making the tequila

(52:28):
exactly like we like it, so let's just make it ourselves.
So they did their research and they contacted the right people,
and they made this tequila that was supposed to be
just for like them and their friends, just like super
bespoke tequila, just with them, and then all of a
sudden it catches on and becomes so big that they
make a billion dollars off Cosa Migos. That's George Clooney
accidentally made a billion dollars. It's my favorite story ever

(52:50):
in the history of you and I. You know, a
lot of famous duos release their own line of booze.
Um Brian Cranston and and Aaron Paul put out one.
What is it? I don't know? Okay, what is it?
Joel Gin or something? I don't know, But why don't
you and I release our own booze? Maybe we could

(53:12):
make some of that cluney billion dollars. Dude, what if
we put out booze? Yeah, that would make me one
of the happiest people on the planet. Let's do it.
What kind of booze should we put out? You can't
do something obvious that's been crushed already, like vodka and tequila.
We can't go near that, I know, because everybody got
a vodka. Everybody's got a vodka. We're not gonna try

(53:34):
and compete with imagine we're like, yeah, it's up there
with sarak O. Sarak is killing it too. That's like,
I think Puffy's made more money off sarok than anything.
I don't. I don't know that he. I don't know
how much of Saraki owns oh. I thought I thought
sarak was his. I don't know. I don't know it.
All right, Well, listen, you guys are hearing it first here,

(53:57):
Donald and I are going to develop our own booze.
We all mind because because Aaron Paul and Bran Hanson
they did a mescal Pubsombres do sambres mesical. Okay, we're
gonna Donald, We're gonna do research. What kind of booze?
It have to be something we both like, Well, what
do you like? Wow? I like to kill it? Like vodka?

(54:17):
Do you like like a Moscow mule? Do you like
moscow mules? Yeah? But that's not a liquor, that's I know.
But what if we did like a canned, a pre made,
badass moscow mule called the a Dayo Shoon. I like
the name, and we have the jingle ready to go.
What you're trying to get it into? What you're trying

(54:43):
to get into a day o shoon. Yeah, and then
the commercial it's you taking a big sip of it,
a day oshoon something that's the name of the booze
what you try trying to get into and another person goes, oh,
that's the commercial. No, it's you and I walking up

(55:04):
to people and they're drinking it what you're trying to
get into it, and they go, day oh my god,
I love it. The problem that we spelled it correctly. People, um,
they might not pronounce it. Other people with my name
would be like, it's named after me. I'd you ever
run into another A day of show? So it's it's
a Nigerian name, I know. So is it popular in Nigeria? Yeah,

(55:27):
I'm sure there are people. I think it's a last name,
though I know I'm suddenly going to be confusing when
it's when it's so popular that it's eventually sold in Nigeria.
But let's start small. What you're trying to get into show.
Don't forget to pull a little ruckiss on it. If
you're singing this at home and you don't pull a

(55:48):
little spice on it, you're doing it wrong. Throw some
strowsy on it, as they you're trying to get into
and show. Put a little nasty on it. Sprinkle some
nasty on it. Yeah. The fact that these guys put
rowdy in front of this dude's house fourteen times. Yeah,
what a dick. What dicks? We are a kind of neighbor.

(56:09):
You hate that. But I mean John Michelle his acting
was okay, but when he eventually had to laugh, he
was a little stiff. You know. John Michelle not only
edited the show, he also directed the show. This not
this episode, no eventually direct, but he would eventually direct.
And I remember I remember as an editor, I guess

(56:33):
you want every I guess you want everything you could
possibly get to put it together, because not only would
he direct the episodes, but he would edit them. And
I remember we would do a bunch of takes for
him because he was like, I just wanted if I
could have it this way, great, if I could have
it this way, it's just more things for me to
look at. Its classic editor turn director. And I think

(56:56):
it was his first shot at directing. So yeah, if
you're gonna if you were to build a stereotypical problem
that an editor turning director might have in the beginning
of their career, it would be I need every single angle,
I need every single take I need. But then you
know I'm sure that. But his episode always they always
turned out great, though he always had good episodes. Well,

(57:17):
we were there at all four in the morning getting
every angle. So why is it the pathologists in TV
shows are always eating I don't know pologist. So the
guys who did the autopsies are they always eating a sandwich?
It's a thing, It's a it's a trope. I think.
I think it's because they they're around death so much
that even the smell of it can't interrupt their day.

(57:39):
So like, if it's lunchtime, I could eat lunch around
a dead body because I'm around it all the time. Right.
The point is is that the writer is trying to
show how how used to death and corpses this person is.
They're so used to it, and so it's so they
so don't care about it that they'll eat their sandwich

(58:00):
over the guy's head. But I'm saying it's been done
to death. Yeah, I love Fleebag. There's a scene in
there where they talk about this, right, like they're going
to see the pathologist and she's like, it's I can't remember.
It's the smell of chemicals or something that makes them
like crave meat. There's like a whole scene in Fleabag
about this, and I'm trying to let me try to

(58:21):
find the science on it, because it was the craziest thing. Okay,
but that's interesting, But that's something else. What I'm saying
is that that that the it's as common and ridiculous
in films and TV as like they remove the rear
view mirror in the car so you can have a
better angle and not have a break up the frame,
which is like just a convention that people get used
to but is stupid. Or that all the streets are

(58:45):
always wet at night because it makes the lights look pretty,
But the cars aren't wet and the buildings aren't wet,
just the streets wet. And in line with that, a
pathologist doing an autopsy will usually have a bite of
some food, right, that's you know. And speaking of speaking
of go to jokes, I started to realize a pattern.
Laverne always talk about Jesus, always talking about Jesus. But

(59:09):
it's funny every time. It's funny every time, but it's
always the same setup. Oh don't worry about what I think.
What you're gonna have to worry about what Jesus thinks?
I know, but it's her. What you're talking about, willis.
It's funn it is what. You don't have to explain
yourself to me. But you better get your story straight
when you come. When you come face goes, when you
come face to face with Jesus. Yeah, that's why I

(59:30):
laughed out out of that. Yeah, Kes, she's great, She's great.
Has he that's her, that's her thing. She talks about Jesus.
Ted's office, he has the Plumox mug, which I liked,
just continuing the Plumox runner. I was very happy to
see Sam Lloyd in this episode. When he popped up.
I got very excited about that. I know. All those

(59:51):
scenes in Ted's office were always so funny. And the
one the one with him and Sarah where he's like,
oh my god, you're getting sued. Have you confronted? Have
you gone back and spoke to and she goes, well,
and he goes, oh did you did you threaten him?
Even and she goes He goes, oh, man, even a

(01:00:11):
good lawyer couldn't win this case. He every scene in
that office Uh is so funny. I think we learned
for the first time that his last name is Buckland.
I'm assuming that's for one of our favorite directors at
the time, Mark Buckland. And well, where else would you
get Buckland from? It's not a common name. No, it's

(01:00:33):
not Buckland is not a cun it seems like a
common name. You know, Dan, what's your last name? Do
you want to ask Dan? What's your last name? Good Man?
Good Man? Do you not know his last name? It's
on the zoom call It's good sounds like do you
think it was gonna be Buckland? It sounds like that
Cox calls me murder? She wrote, which is funny because

(01:00:56):
I accidentally killed a patient. Right, um, Oh, I love
It's hard. When Kelso says to Uh to Sarah, he goes,
you had four years of college and four years of
med school, so I can safely assume that you were
at least eight. He was great in this episode. N

(01:01:22):
Jenkins always great. Well, I noticed that you have really
baggy cargo pants on. Do you remember when that was
the style? And we both used to wear those a lot. Okay,
I'm gonna tell you something. This is when I started
you know, gaining weight on the show, so were hiding
your stomach. Well, I'm not necessarily hiding my stomach, but
I'm hiding. You know. The clothes started to change for me.

(01:01:43):
So now I'm no longer wearing the jeans that they
had for me because my waist had grown so much.
I'm now wearing baggy clothes. So this is one episode
where they hadn't gone shop at least that's what I think.
They hadn't gone shopping for me yesterday, because I remember
Carrie asking me about wearing the pants he was. She
was like, you know, will you wear these instead today

(01:02:05):
or something like that, And it was because my ass
was getting bigger, your ass or your belly, my booty.
So they they had to go shopping to get bigger
clothes for you, but they hadn't gone yet, so they say, here,
how about these baggy sweatpants. Yes, this is around the
time where I heard Sarah talking about a fan asking

(01:02:26):
if I was on the Crispy Creme diet. It's funny
to you, it's not to me. I'm sorry, it didn't
really hurt your feelings. Yeah, it hurt my feelings, Okay,
it did it hurt your feelings enough that you took
action and changed your habits. Yeah. Actually the next season.

(01:02:48):
If you notice the next season when we come back,
I'm a lot skinnier in season three. Now, are you
going to progressively get larger throughout this season? Because something
I'll keep an eye out for. I think your lisp
is on. By the way, I think the brand it's gone.
In this episode we cut them off finally. Um, you
know what I believe. So I believe we're gonna go
through this season and I will get heavier. This is

(01:03:08):
also around the time where I am about to get
a divorce from So maybe that was tied the late
game might have been tied to the stress of your divorce.
Perhaps maybe you know it's it's it's brewing at this point.
At this point, I remember being like, oh man, you know, uh,
this isn't I'm going. Well, there's something you know you
can always meet You always can tell when you meet

(01:03:30):
somebody who's never been divorced or never you know what
I mean, because the first thing they say is, oh,
I'm so sorry. You meet somebody who's been divorced, they're
always gonna say you. You'll be like, I'm so sorry
and they're be like, no, no, no, I got out
of that. It's all good. Don't trip, Well, not always do.
I think that's that's that's not true for very few times.
There are very few times. Well, while going through it, yes,

(01:03:50):
while going through it, it's very sad because you're remembering
all the things that you used to do, and you're
remembering you know, and and and and you're moving forward.
And whenever you're moving forward and things aren't you know,
like uh they were in the past, it's there's change.
You know, it's a little uncomfortable for you. But when

(01:04:11):
you're out of it, just so happy to be out
of There's a great line in Um in Annie Hall
where where Woody Allen says to Diane Keaton, you know,
I think relationships um are like sharks. Um. If you
stop moving forward, you die. And I think what we
have here is a dead shark. So you had a

(01:04:36):
dead shark. It didn't work out. It didn't work out,
but guess what. And if you're listening and going through
a divorce now Donald ended up with the love of
his life. The man has never been happier, never been
more in love, and talk about a blessing in disguise.
It worked out well. You know it's when you're not

(01:04:57):
looking for it that it works out that way. You know, well,
you were looking for it, that's you hit on her
in the club. And she said, then he had like
nine keys. Yeah, but I was just trying to beat.
I wasn't trying to day You're just trying to beat?
What does that mean? You were trying to You were
just trying to have intercourse? Do you remember rum? Do
you remember the fact that's trying right now? In fact?

(01:05:19):
Because come on, man, you knew exactly what the funk
I meant. It just was something. It was I said
it different and you were like, wait, hold on, all right,
we have a guest, right, Joel, we never took a break.
I'm sorry, Daniel, You're gonna have to put in fake breaks.
He does it all the time. Let's go to break, guys, Rob.

(01:05:42):
I got a new intro. Rob. I'm no longer doing Oprah.
I'm now doing I'm now doing Kerma. Give it up
for robbing. Bye, Bob bye, it's nice to meet you.
I'm Zach. That's Donald, that's Daniel, that's Joel. Hello, everyone,
this is why, thank you? How are welcome? Welcome. I'm

(01:06:02):
doing great. How's that, Boddy? We're great? Where are you
calling from, Bubble? I am in northern Virginia outside of Yes,
when when Titans Virginia? That's right? Circle back to of course,
well everyone everyone who has everyone who has a Bingo

(01:06:23):
card was like, I can't believe Titans doesn't come up
there from card. Well, I want to mention Gardens State too.
My wife is from New Jersey. I like when we
when we met, she told me she was from Jersey,
and she said, do not say Jersey Shore. I'm from
near Gardens State. That's what it looked like, right. Well,
I agree with your wife. A lot of you know,

(01:06:43):
when the Jersey short came out, a lot of US
Jersey ins were like, um, first of all, none of
those people are from New Jersey. They were from like
Staten Island and other places. And and of course there
is a sections of the beach in New Jersey where
a lot of Jersey Shore type folks congregate, but that
is only one section of the beach. And I just

(01:07:04):
thought it was like the worst of press for Jersey.
And so when I made Garden State, I didn't do
it with this intention in mind, but I like your wife.
I wanted to say to people like, hey, Jersey's actually
really beautiful. It's literally called the Garden State. So the
other thing that happens is people fly in a Newark airport.
It's a very big international airport that's in our industrial area.

(01:07:26):
So people fly in Newark and they look at all
the industry and they're like, oh, fucking Jersey's grows. Meanwhile,
it's like every fucking state has at in big industrial area.
How do you think if you put your airport there.
When I was shooting Emergence, we shot on the shore
where you know, all of those things happened, and we
shot in the off season. In the winter. That town
is dead in the winter. It's not until summer that

(01:07:48):
it goes off. Yeah, it's really interesting actually when it's
actually it's the I set my play only people there
because I went when you when you go to choose
a show, if you're gonna rent a house for the
summer in Jersey at the beach. Nowadays, I'm sure it's
all online, but back in the day when I was
a kid, used to go down there and then the
beach would be covered in snow and it's a ghost town.

(01:08:08):
I mean nobody there. But that's when you'd go, like,
look at the house that you might rent for the summer,
and always thought it was really eerie and spooky because
there were onely like a handful of people that lived
down there, and but it was the beach, and it
was just like a ghost town. It looked like a
bomb and gone off and there was just no one there.
And uh and um, so I sat this play that
I wrote, I sat like down there in the winter.
But anyway, sorry, Bob, we digress again. What's your question

(01:08:31):
for us? Sir h I love Scrubs, but both Zach
and Donald, you guys have been on the best television
show of all time, Sesame Street. Oh yeah, about being
on Sesame Street. I got a four year old and
a seven year old. Yeah, I loved it. I cut

(01:08:54):
my teeth on Sesame Street. Go ahead. Yeah, you were on.
You were on when you were a child. I was on,
not as a child, but so before clueless, before all
of those things. I was a New York actor, and
in New York, you know, it was for actors at
the time. If you weren't living in Los Angeles and

(01:09:15):
you were living in any city that you know, did
commercials or had a production in town. It was like
it felt like the trenches, you know what I mean.
So if you're not doing play in New York City,
if you're not doing plays, you know, you're most likely
auditioning for auditioning for commercials. And it felt like at

(01:09:37):
the time, every commercial came out of New York City,
and you know, there were only you know, there were
shows there, like The Cosby Show, was there, NYPD Blue,
New York Undercover, but there weren't a lot of them,
and so you would be going up for these local
shows against all your friends, people you knew, and it
just really felt like you were in the trenches, like

(01:09:57):
you were fighting for one job with thousands and thousands
and thousands of people, where As when you come to LA,
it seems it seems like there was a job. You know,
the way they talked about LA when you lived in
New York was there's a job they grow on trees
out in LA. And so Sesame Street was one of

(01:10:20):
those shows that it was like, you know, they're looking
for a new character, looking for new characters on Sesame Street,
and everybody in their mama went out for Sesame Street.
I wound up getting it, uh with Eugene Byrd, who's
on He's He's in a bunch of movie. He was
in what was then eminem movie eight Mile. He's in

(01:10:44):
He's in eight Mile. He's the one that steals Brittany
Murphy from Marshall Mathers in the movie. Anyway, we got,
we got Sesame Street, and it was he was already
on it, and then he had a group of friends
that he would bring on to help him, like he
was a handyman. And something happened where the other guys

(01:11:08):
Eugene left and the other guys I guess Sesame Street
didn't like or you know, did something that I don't
know what it was, but they kept me around for
a bit and I got to, you know, hang out
and do I did like something like six or seven
episodes of Sesame Street. I grew up with Savion Glover.
I known him since I was a kid, and he

(01:11:28):
was on Sesame Street at the time. So it was
just kind of cool to see somebody who was very
successful in life was a famous tap dancer. He was
already a he was he was already famous. He hadn't
done bring the noise, bringing the funk yet, but he
had already done like the movie Tap. He had already
been huge, and so it was like, holy cow, I'm

(01:11:49):
doing scenes with Savion and it felt, you know, I'm legit.
You know. I remember when I came out to LA
and I had this like big audition and I walked
in and it was all of these famous actors like
Dante Bosco who was in Hook he played Rufio and Hook,
and you know, like a ship ton of the cast
from Saved by the Bell, you know, and other things.

(01:12:13):
And I hadn't I didn't have anything on my resume
at the time, like you know, Clueless hadn't come out,
and they were all talking about what they had worked on,
and I was off in the corner and I wanted
to be a part of it so bad. I walked
in between them all and I was like, yo, well,
you know, I was on Sesame Street and stuff. And
I could see in their faces they were like Sesme Street.

(01:12:37):
But I was so confident because of you know what
Sesame Street meant to me growing up, as as it
probably will to your four year old. Um. I did
it relatively recently. I was on with Telly, I believe,
and Um, I did a thing about explaining the word
anxious to two children, and it's really funny. If you

(01:13:02):
get a chance, go look on YouTube and just put
in my name Sesame Street anxious. It comes up. But
it's funny. There was a whole bit where we were
both worried. Telling and I were both worried about what
was in this box, and we were using that as
a as a means of trying to describe to kids
the word anxious. And I'm like, oh, now I'm anxious,
and Tell He's like, I'm anxious too, and I and

(01:13:22):
then I all of a sudden, I go, what's in
the box. What's in the bar? That's what's in the box.
I got like a whole seven reference into you and
Brad Pitt. You and Brad Pitt. I went Brad Pitt seven.
So now let's talk about this again. I like his work.
I'm not trying to dock him. Dude, You're totally trying
to dock Brad Pitt because I like seven. I'm not
trying to dock Brad. You see, this is what I'm

(01:13:43):
talking about. I said, I like Leo, and I'm trying
to dock Leo. You like brad if I like Leo
and I'm trying to dock, if that's what that's all right,
neither one of us, neither one of us are trying
to dock. Okay, clear to love. I do love the
movie seven a lot. That's not all you love? You
love five Club. Yeah, well Bride's a great actor. Yeah,
so's Leo. Oh my god, Bob, thank you. Do you

(01:14:06):
have another question? Yeah, I'm a I'm a seventh grade
teacher here in Virginia. Cool, and I just wanted to
know if you guys had a story about your favorite teacher.
We love, we love hearing from my students, and you know,
we love when they reach out to us. I don't
always remember him. I got a lot of students come

(01:14:27):
through my classroom, but I love it when they when
they contact us. So I wonder if you guys had
a how do they impact you? What? What? So many?
So many? I have so many too. But there's one
teacher that I had that was so awesome and his
name was mister Hurton. He was a history teacher, as
am I and uh and you know I had him

(01:14:50):
in high school my senior year, and I thought we
had like a vibe like because I was a good student.
I you know, history was a lot of fun for me.
I'd liked to study history, and you know, he was
one of those cats that you know, when Black History
Month came around, we could talk about we would talk

(01:15:13):
about black history for the whole month, you know what
I mean. And he was an awesome history teacher. I
never did homework in the class though, you know what
I mean, Like I would always do I would always
ace my tests, like literally get nineties on tests, a

(01:15:35):
hundreds on tests. But I never did homework. It's my
senior year, and I'm thinking, well, I'm gonna definitely I'm
gonna I don't need to worry about history because that's
my favorite subject and I'm crushing it in history. I
remember having to go to other teachers and be like
and beg for just a sixty so I could graduate. Right,

(01:15:59):
I didn't worry about history. I passed every class in
my senior year. Now, granted, I had messed around throughout
high school. I had gotten left back, I went to
summer school, and then you know, in my junior year,
I went to summer school so I could graduate on time.
I had done all of these things to make it
so that I graduated when I was supposed to graduate,

(01:16:22):
and begged all my teachers to give me. Look, I
know I'm not passing. I know I got like a
fifty nine right now, But if you could just figure
out a way to just turn my fifty nine into
a sixty, help a brother out the one class that
I didn't worry about. Mister Hurt gives me a fifty
nine instead of a sixty, and I had to go

(01:16:44):
to summer school to get my diploma. He taught you
a lesson, though he did teach me a lesson. And
then so one day he hits me up on Facebook like, Donald,
I'm so proud of you. I want to be honest
with you. I always knew you'd you'd you'd be where
you are today. You had such charisma in high school
whatever it is now. I went to a high school
with a bunch of actors and entertainers and other everything,
and so it meant a lot for me to hear that.

(01:17:05):
But then I remembered, motherfucker, you're the one that gave
me a fifty nine instead of a sexty and I
had to go to summer school. And I remember telling
him that he was like I did that. He was like, ah, whatever, man,
but I'm so proud of you. So missen to hurt
my favorite teacher all time. Well, I just want to
say there's a lot, Bob. I have a lot of

(01:17:29):
fond memories of certain teachers. And there was a TV
teacher at my high school that really got me into
like working, and we had like a little TV station
and I love that. And mister Mullen, he was so
supportive of my I'd make these little short films and
I think he could really tell that I was passionate
about it. And I remember earlier there was an English teacher,

(01:17:50):
Miss Petrolia, who for the first time, was introducing us
to poetry and I really really responded to. At the time,
we thought, oh, we have to memorize these Robert Frost
poems and stuff, and I remember thinking like, this is
so stupid. But I grew to really love poetry and
ultimately in college got into Shakespeare and so um. I

(01:18:12):
have a lot of fond memories of teachers. And so
I'm sure other students have told you this before, but
you guys make such a difference in people's lives, particularly
if you're a good teacher, because you know, some of
us have memories of teachers that weren't weren't weren't effective,
or or we felt were condescending. But the ones I

(01:18:32):
really remember are ones that that were just so pure
and honest about it. They really were excited about what
they were teaching and that and that landed in us.
That was transferred because we I mean this, this woman,
Miss Petrolea, got me excited about poetry. She got me
excited about reading literature, and her passion came through. You know, dude,

(01:18:52):
I totally understand what you're saying when you say stuff
like that. Like I had one teacher and he was
just my guidance counselor you know, I knew in high
school that I didn't want to go to college and
I wanted to go to I wanted to move to
Los Angeles immediately after high school and become an actor.
And he was like, dude, you got to apply for

(01:19:12):
colleges and stuff. And I was like, I'm not gonna
do it. He was like, all right, fine, whatever, and
I got in. I went in. I auditioned for Rutgers University.
My mom went to Rutgers University, and I got in
and he was so excited for me, and he sat
me down. He was like, dude, I don't know how
you like literally, this is what he said to me.
I don't know how you did it. But he got

(01:19:33):
into Rutgers. Man, you did it. You got into Rutgers.
And I remember looking at him and saying, yeah, you know,
I'm in colleges. Isn't for me. I'm not going to
go to college. I'm I'm gonna give this acting thing
a shot. And I could see the disappointment in his face,
like you're thrown away your future, kid, And it always

(01:19:53):
it always sticks with me. That always sticks with me
that he cared so much about what was gonna happen
to me after I left that school. He wasn't like, listen,
I get that you I get that you want he was.
He was like, I get that you want to be famous.
I get all of that, But dude, you have a
you have a shot that Rutgers is a very good school.

(01:20:14):
You know what I mean? This is something that a
lot of people would kill for, and somehow you convinced
them that you're Rutgers material. I can't believe you're not
going to do it. And that's always stuck with me,
like he cared so much about my future that he
was willing to protest pretty much. You know, I think
you're doing the wrong thing. This isn't you're You're making

(01:20:36):
a mistake. Regardless of where I'm at now and regardless
of my belief in myself, I'd still look back at
him and like and think, I think very highly of
mister Napp as well. We'll also can think about it.
The odds of someone making it is so slim that
he you know, he is an actor. It's the it's
it's it is a bit of a lottery. And so
he was just looking out for you and being like,

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oh I like this kid. I don't know if he's
gonna as an actor. Yeah, yeah, Well, Bob, thank you
so much. Thank you for coming on, thank you for
being a teacher, and thank you for making a difference
in in young people's lives. Uh, stay safe, all right,
safe bye bye bye. Thank you. All right, Donald, Um,
we went along today, but you know what, we had

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a lot to say and we had a really cool
guest on a day. Also, Man, I like Bomb, but
I like you, I like Daniel, I like Joelle. You
just like me. I fucking love you? What did you
What was the term you used before? Um? You were trying?
And what with Casey smash? What was it? Beat? Yeah?
I'm not trying to beat, but I love you. Oh

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my god, Hey everybody. Oh, we're gonna go in to wait.
First of our final announcements follow Joelle. Joelle, what's your
Twitter handle? Yeah? Actually, before we do this, guys, we
have to give out a gt S kombucha. So I
was thinking I could. There's I bookmark the first person
who got it because I thought maybe that would be

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the fairest way. Are you guys okay with doing that? Yeah?
Sure cool? Then congratulations to Melanie w I will hit
you up on the Twitter d MS. Looks like you're
in Washington, so that should be good. Are you gonna
f g TS kimbucha? Thank you for making a beautiful
um bingo card for us, and show out some more

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bingo people soon, just as a thank you guys for
doing that. A lot of you contributed bingo cards and
they look beautiful and we appreciate that. We will put
those up when we get them and you guys could
play along. Yes, yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
yeah yeah. Um So yes. To wrap up, I'm joel Nie.
You can find me all over the internet at Joe Monique.
That's Joe L L E M O N I q

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U E and Dale. What's your handle? My handle is
on Twitter Daniel. Oh jesus, imagine your fucking engineer mutes himself.
That's funny. I'm muted, but I was recording myself on
my mic. Ses is DJ Underscore Daniel d A n
L on the Twitter and follow me there, Oh, follow him.

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He's delightful. I do, and I think you're You're both great.
I'm learning a lot about your secret lives by following
you both. Follow Donald Phazon. Please keep his Instagram numbers
going Please for the listen. Thank you that I love
that to put thank you, yes for the love of yahweh.

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Please keep those Instagram numbers going up. And hey, tell
your friends about this show, guys, because we have a lot.
We have this amazing group here, but let's keep it going.
You might text your friend dear so and so, now
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listen to fake doctor's real friends. The Scrubs rewatch podcasts.

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It's delightful. Due love it. We're gonna end the show
today with Toby Sebastian uh singing the my summer jam
number one lover This is a really good tune. You
can find it anywhere in everywhere you get your music.
I love you guys, We'll see you soon. I'm now
gonna talk it up Titan Tanele. Don't wait, Tom, do

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you want to don't five six seven eight? Are you?
I'm not gonna five six seven eight? You go ahead,
talk it up. I'm gonna talk up the song because
last time I was a big hit. Ready, I got nervous.
All right, everybody, you're looking for a new song in
the summer, Well I got one coming to you. He's
a British heartthrob sensation. His name is Toby Sebastian. Here
he is with this new hit number one lover you. Yeah,

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oh you here and then night yeah yeah to this

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year to be you know, y'all a little one liver,
yeah my soul. I wouldn't read you another. Oh in time,

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my love, y'all. Liver to what this Sunday? Yeah? Because

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I want to oh dance a day? Yeah, I want
to dance on my air. I want to. I want
to dance on Live Yeah, I want to. I want

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to dance someday word I love, got it out, I
love one. Want to this anight and I don't want

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to at this annight. A