608: My Road to Nowhere with Brian Klugman

On this week's episode, Kelso gets an RV, but JD and the crew commandeer it for a road trip to Kim's first ultrasound before he can use it. In the real world, we've got a special guest on the show to tell us about his inspirational children's book! 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Somebody specials here. It's just one of those days. There
he is. Are you wearing your sweatshirt that looks like
it has stains, but that's part of the design. Yes,
that's a fling. Are you wearing a necklace made out
of candy? No, this necklace was given to me by

(00:22):
my friend. It's crystals that supposedly are good for your
soul and your heart. Um and um. You can make
fun of it, but I'm trying to see if it works.
So far, I don't notice anything. I wasn't. I wasn't
making fun of it. Hi, everybody, Hi Joelle, Hi Daniel,
Hi Donald, are you recording right, I've been recording. Let

(00:43):
me do a little test of our sound machine right there.
It is Everything's tank forever, Wu tang forever. Everything's working.
That is true though, Wu tang is forever. That's one
thing that is that is true. Donald's sent me a
meme the other day and I thought of it and
it said something like, why do all of US African

(01:07):
Americans do this? And it was the guy um putting
on a movie, hitting start and then turning around to
go to sleep. The other way. Yeah, an entire vibe
and I and I was doing that myself. I was
like putting on the TV that I knew I wasn't
going to watch and starting something and then getting all

(01:28):
cuddled up and turning the other way to fall asleep.
It wasn't that. It wasn't why do Africans? Why do
black people do it? Is? It was black people do this,
but it doesn't. Also, what it doesn't say is that
a lot of people that aren't black also do it
like white people do it. Do it like the washcloth
thing where it's a stereotypical black thing. No, I think

(01:51):
everybody turned on the TV. Come on, buddy, you know
you know, you know what my wife does it. You're right,
my wife's like, turn next shit off. Please. I'm like,
I'm going to bed and not turn the TV on.
That's just right. My sister just me. She had to
have it going all the time, but her like Home
Shopping Network. What an episode that doesn't make any sense

(02:17):
at all. Donald, I'm happy we have a guest today
to lighten things up a little bit. We are going
to do the show today with a friend of ours
named Brian Klugman, who's very fascinating guy. He well, let's
bring him in and then we'll talk about him and
um and uh, and then he's gonna help us make
this episode that was not that good even better? Right?
I like this episode? No, and I want to talk

(02:38):
to you about why you apparently did I'd laughed once,
I laughed more than once. When did you? Wait? Wait?
When did you laugh? I don't want to ruin it yet.
Let's bring in Brian. Brian is a big Scrubs fan,
and he is a big Scrubs podcast listener. There he
is thunderous, surprise, motherfucking there. He is that every time

(03:04):
I get on a call, every time Brian meet Daniel,
who's our engineer and video game expert, and um, what
else do you do? You edit? You provide fun and laughter.
I appreciate that little buffet lifestyle over here a little bit.
And Joel had to turn off for camera because she's
having some issues, but she's our producer and hello. I

(03:27):
wanted to bring Brian Klugman on because for so many reasons. One,
he's a fan of Scrubs, he's a fan of the podcast,
and he also is a very funny gentleman. I thought
he could help make this episode, which I didn't find
particularly funny, funnier as we discussed it. Although I'm just
learning now, Brian that Donald found it funny. I found
it funny. And the other thing about Brian is, Brian,

(03:49):
had you had such an You have such an interesting career,
unlike anybody else I know you. You not only act
and direct, didn't you? Weren't you Frasier's son? No? I
I was. I was the intern at the radio station
there for a while. I had a long run of
playing real, real dumb characters and one other one of

(04:12):
the what was that character's name on Frasier Kirby Kirby.
I never watched an episode of Frasier, so I wouldn't know,
but I think you had a big sort of jiufro
when you did it right, very very big. Yeah. I
had that for a while. And were you on any
other notable roles people might remember you from an can't
hardly Wait with our friend Donald over there? Yeah? I, um, yeah,

(04:36):
I mean I did a million different things. Uh was
on Felicity when that show started together around the same
time too, yep. And I was up until recently was
doing Bones as kind of one of the interns squinterns
whatever they call them, and had a great time with that.
Brian such an interesting career because not only do you

(04:58):
still act and you directed some films, but you're a
very funny writer. And I'm tom about to tie all
of this in is that Brian will Well. I'd love
you to tell the story of how it happened. But
Brian had a big change of life and became a
very very successful He's kind of Don Draper. And because

(05:19):
Brian loves Scrubs and because Brian loves us, he is
the reason that we landed the T Mobile the Super
Bowl commercial, and he's the one who wrote that fucking hilarious.
Oh I can't take I can't take all the credit
for writing it. I wrote it and created with Andrew Pinney,
who's my partner on this journey, who's an incredible producer.

(05:39):
And then the guys up at T Mobile, my Cats
and Peter de Luca, they're huge fans of you guys.
So it was like it was a kind of a
universal decision. Now, Brian before not to toot our own horns,
but if we can't toot our own horns on our
own podcast this, Yeah, if we can't toot our own horn,

(06:00):
I would say that in meetings, I'm like, not to brag,
but I'm trying to sell myself to you. So if
I can't brag in this meeting, what's the point? Um?
But but Brian, um is it? It's true in fact
that the that your creation and our genius talent um
made it the second most searched for ad after scholar Johansson.
It was it was. It was on fire people and

(06:21):
such universal I mean, it's what you do. I think
we all know when you put something out into the world,
especially in that kind of form, people love to hate,
you know what I mean. I thought, by putting something
out publicly is always a scary and arduous thing. But
you guys, it was so you guys were so universally

(06:42):
loved and it was so warm. I think it was
just incredible to see that reception. And you know, I know,
you guys we were talking after the game, like to
watch it just continue and to pick up steam. And
you know, there was no lead time on any of that.
You know, there was no lead time. We didn't like
pre release anything. It just it hit and it was

(07:02):
a nun We had so much fun that day, Brian,
because it truly is me and Donald's dream, Like if
we could fantasize, like in a Scrubs fantasy, it would
be that we live next door to each other and
sing pretty close. At one point we were pretty close,
we were I'm saying, like I I well, I think
I told the story in the podcast, but like, if
I had my dream, I would go on my front
porch and have my morning coffee and look over and

(07:24):
see Donald probably smoking a blunt and and just be
like morning hits. You want to us sing something from
sound to music or this is what I've this is
what I've learned. But this is what I've learned. Bong
hits are so much faster than smoking a blunt. It
took you forty eight years to realize that Brian has
a brand new baby. By the way, um, that is

(07:46):
very beautiful, and Brian, your life is so good. And
also I just want to say that you're a beautiful wife.
Beautiful wife, beautiful wife who's so cool and smart and
has as a singer, and and you're such a mensch
who If you don't know that expression, I believe it's
German for Man. Brian you would know, but it's it's Yiddish.

(08:07):
Yiddish yeah, but it just means just a just a sweet,
really sweet human being. And I'm sorry to be sincere, audience,
but you really are just a lovely person and I'm
glad that we're friends. Wow that I feel exactly the
same way. It's funny you said the word mench when
I when I first moved out to la you know,
leaving my family, leaving so far. I said to my mom,

(08:28):
you know, I was getting to the plane and said,
anything you need to tell me. Last thing she says
is I get on. She goes, if you ever meet
Steven Spielberg, tell him he's a mench. That was Ian
had the opportunity yet not yet, not yet, but uh,
we can probably count into the show. We forgot to
do that about show we made never get around, yeato around.

(09:12):
Welcome to the show. So Brian, real quick before we
get into talking about the episode, which I thought was
really weird and I didn't laugh that much, but I'm
glad you you did, so you can set me straight.
The fuck what do you hold on? I have? I
have really because this had some pretty funny moments in it,
and to think that you didn't laugh at this shit,
So you know, sometimes it's your mood. I'm not in

(09:32):
a bad mood, but sometimes it is one's mood that
that affects how you watched the episode. Maybe maybe I'm
not in wasn't in a particularly giggly mood. Can I
go down to listen? Let's see if you laugh, you're
gonna you can't waste it. But I will tell you
the one thing I laughed at when kelsos as you
call Al Green because he forgot Skids tickets. It took you.

(09:55):
It took you all the way to the end of
the show to laugh. Dude, hold on, hey, no, no,
because you can't. We're gonna go through the show. You
can just list the things he's trying to start at
the beginning. I'm gonna start to get the cold open.
You didn't laugh at the fact that Ted has a
granny fetish. Yeah, but it's weirder than that. It's not

(10:17):
just a granny fetish. He's he's kind of into his mom. Yes,
it's a mom granny fetish. It's it's it's trippy. I
really liked it though, too. It took me completely by
surprise because it kind of a revealed itself like a
little bit at a time, you know. And at first
he's eyeing the granny. Yeah, okay, he won. And then

(10:37):
you're like is he why is he? And then he
kind of does a thing where he tries to touch her,
like like she's hot. He does a thing with his finger,
and then and then later he brags about having seen
his mom have sex. Yes with a man. Yes, yeah,
a man, Yes with the man. Okay, So let's just
start as a point of pride for for him and

(10:59):
the things with a man. The show is called Road
to Nowhere. It was written and directed by Mark Stegman.
Mark was a very funny writer on our show, and
I think this is the first time, other than Bill,
a writer on the show was given the privilege of
directing an episode. Um JD lives in a tent on
his half acre. Um that half acre, making it back

(11:22):
to this show half Acre's facts, and he still own
that shit. He still owns that ship. Yes, I bought
it with Manny Moore. I wonder if I bought her out.
I must have bought her out of her she ain't
around no more. He wants to split it, but um,
I'm stealing power from the next door neighbors. And you
didn't laugh at that. Well, I didn't laugh at the
fact that you were stealing power from the next door neighbor, didn't.

(11:43):
Yeah you did, Yeah you did. Party laughed that I
sounded that. It sounded like they were having sex like
a baboon and the guys like I wasn't home last night. Yeah,
I mean I like that you brutalize him, and she
was like a stunt woman she was, Yeah, for sure.
I don't remember much about this episode except there are
a few key things, and I think I remember her

(12:04):
being like she was almost like an MMA fighter. She
was big. Why did she beat your ass? And and
for telling on? And why did he stand there and watch?
Why wasn't automatically Why wasn't it automatically? Baby? I don't
know what the heck fuck he's talking about. Why didn't
it go to their Why was it killing the messenger? Yeah,

(12:28):
I'm caught. I'm ana fuck him up for that. And
he stands there, and he stands there and watches, But
we don't know. They have a weird sex life. So
I don't mean to say weird. They have a unique
sex life. So they have their sex life. Yes, I
have to beat some PC these days, Brian. They have
their sex life, right, Joel, there's nothing odd about it.

(12:48):
They have their sex life. They have their choices, is
that right. Never we need to whenever we need to
say sex things correctly, we go to our verbal specialist, Joel.
It's not weird. It's just their choices. Yeah. Yeah. Also,
don't cheat on your spouse, you know, and you got
you gotta be like cooler than whatever she was trying

(13:10):
to pull off, because it was her that was doing
the cheating, right yeah, and she got caught and beat
up j D for it. Right, should have been like,
that's it, I'm out. I knew it all. I knew
it all along. He should have bounced. Okay, So this
is that he watched his wife beat the shit out
of another man. Maybe maybe that they may be. They

(13:37):
may be like our couple friends beyond on the show,
have some sort of arrangement. I don't think he likes it.
He didn't see. He didn't seem to like it. Think
he likes it. I know you you brutalized. Um as
we know. UM this is the RV episode. UM A
very weird thing, right, It's almost like I like the RV.

(14:01):
I liked the the idea of the RV. I was wondering,
what the fuck is Kelso? That was the first question
I asked, why is Kelso introducing his camper, like what
is the well? I love RVs. I want to mention
as a kid, we used to take r V trips
and my father always always would get ones that would
break down. He was always he wouldn't spring for a

(14:23):
good one and uh and they and it was so humiliating.
I remember, without fail, they would break down and we'd
always be in the shop, and for some reason he
would he would always go back to the same company.
I think he was. My father was a very loyal man.
And even though even though he would go to the
shop that would rent us piece of shit RVs that
would break down, he would go to the same one

(14:45):
every year. And I can remember be like stuck in
like a toll booth, like everyone honking, like I always
loved RVs. I always grew up and and to this day,
I even during the pandemic, like so many people, I
think after maybe Nomad Land inspired it or something. But

(15:05):
then I went down the wormhole of like tricked out
sprinter vans. Those things are insane to this day. My
Instagram is is like seventy percent tricked out couples who
have tricked out their sprinter vans and like live on
the road. I so cool. But these guys had a
freaking bus. Yeah, these guys had a monster RV. This

(15:28):
thing is huge in the back and it has a
rack of kimonos that are used for Kelso's masseuses. Yes, okay,
we need to discuss this because we kind of touched
on it before, but we didn't. Yo. There's a lot
of shit in this that's kind of like, I mean, nowadays,

(15:49):
it's kind of like, hmmm, a lot of questionable. Well.
Joelle mentioned that there is in the Asian community discussion
of being fetishized as right, the female um, female Asian
women's well, the Asian community as a whole, sick and
tired of it being a joke. And this was something

(16:13):
that was a recurring joke with Kelso. But at the
same time, and I'm not defending that at all, but
but but can't you Joel answered this for me. Can't
you also have a character that his thing is that
he's attracted to um Vietnamese Asian women. Yeah, I would
hope that, Like, I mean, it kimonos are not Vietnamese

(16:35):
or Japanese, so that's like iffy, And I think I
think it's okay as long as you're like that guy's
an effing asshole, and also as so long as it's
not like a prolonged joke like in um licorice Pizza,
which recently got a lot of flak from the Asian
community for having weird dialogue about that. It was a

(16:57):
very weird term, which is such a weird choice, like
like when did you write this eighty seven? Yeah? Yeah,
So I think, yeah, Kelso is firmly in that camp.
I think most people look down at Kelso. We've seen
him be a slack writer's job and it's not a
celebrated thing. And I it was offensive. I mean, did
you did you? Did you? Joel? I don't want to

(17:19):
it's hard for me to tip to around this because
I don't I can't speak for the Asian community. But
when we last week and we talked about the officer
and a gentleman thing that wasn't even in the Vietnamese,
that wasn't even Vietnamese. The song wasn't even sung in Vietnamese.
It wasn't no what was it Sunging. I don't know,
but somebody DM ME was like, yo, that wasn't Vietnamese. Yeah,

(17:41):
that was like the Mandarin conversation from it was the
Moon Night. That's happening too. We gotta do better by
the Asian community as a whole. Oh, I didn't know that.
That's horrible that it wasn't even in Vietnamese. They probably
just found an Asian version of the song and played it,
lapped it in there, yeah, and played it. It's horrible. Well,

(18:03):
it's not our fault. We didn't create the damn thing.
We just acted it. Um Anyway, it is a true
fact that Kelso is attracted to Asian women. Whether that's
um appropriate or not these days, Uh, we we're just
we're reviewing an old show. It is funny when everyone
is wearing them for warmths later, right, I like that.
I like a couple of the runners on the show.

(18:24):
I kind of like the idea of changing like the
word wrong to Dorian right at the beginning. I think
there's I think there's fun I had a desire at
one point to try to get the word Sigourney weaver
to be like an expression like Sigourney weaver. That's good coffee,
you know what I mean. So, so I like replacing

(18:46):
words with words that we choose. I think there's something
fun about how about JD chetches on right away? And
yeah it's kind of surprised, and how did that catch
on so quickly? And and something else jumped out at me,
like when you guys, I love I love the Michael
Knight beata. It was fucking hilarious. Yeah, I don't know.

(19:07):
I've spoken a lot about our love for night Riders,
so the Little night Rider Fantasy wasn't. But then then,
but Kit, the version of Kit the Computer and our
show tried to kind of like hook up with got
a little dirty dirty, which I think is funny. And
I liked they got you in the leather jacket and
everything in that little fantasy sequence. I was I was

(19:28):
all in on that man, because that was That's really
true about that though, hold on, hold on now, brag wow, wow,
that really went different. That's true though. Think about it.
When Kit would get beat up, Kit would be like,
oh that shit hurts. Oh fuck, I'm hurt. He would well,
you know, it would be like Michael no, yeah, you

(19:51):
know that was always sad. Yeah, got hurt. So how
come when Kit got touched in a nice way, holcome,
Kit couldn't be like, oh shit, Michael. He was. He
was like that, Michael. Why didn't that? Why didn't why
didn't that happen? That would be we didn't bring something

(20:13):
that wasn't programmed into Kit in the foundation of law, Governor.
Maybe I wasn't hitting the right spot. I should have
been yanking on the tailpipe. That could be it. I'm
gonna fall with the banana and the tailpipe, not gonna
fall for the banana. The tail um. Take these here,
Take these bananas. Take these bananasana, Go ahead, the buffet.
I have peaches plums. One of the reasons I love

(20:39):
hanging out with Brian is he will You can name
any movie reference and it He'll pick it up and
start running with it. Um. All right, listen, let's make
try so we The RVs introduced Kim's having an ultrasound.
For those of you haven't watched the episode of Road
to Nowhere, Jad's missed so so so is what in

(21:00):
Jordan's happening also having an ultrasound. And they decide they're
gonna take They're gonna steal Kelsel's RV they're gonna bring
rowdy and they're gonna do a road trip to Tacoma.
Cox sabotagees Turk because Turk told Jordan that Cox told
him that they liked to cuddle, right, want anyone to

(21:23):
know that she likes to cuddle. She got livid. So
Cox screwed over Turk, and Carlo said, I'm going on
the road trip right instead makes it so Carlo's like,
I gotta get give the baby to Turk. I'm going
on the d I mean I didn't, I thought, I thought,
I thought. I know that obviously the writers wanted to
give Cox and Turk's storyline together, but I think the

(21:43):
road trip would have been funnier to have Turk on
the road trip, absolutely. I mean Turks and a kimono
on the on the on the on the dancer pole
was a missed opportunity. Well, I learned another thing about
Turk and Carlo. Though they do some freaky shit. I mean,
she's got she's from one, very very flexible and very
very bendy. Yeah, and j knows the name of the

(22:05):
of the of the day because that was funny. So
you know that you know that Turk is like yo
can we practice some of these moves that you seem
to know from back in the day. Did you ever
question that Carla wasn't naughty in bed? Carla feels like
she's naughty in bed. I feel like Turk appreciates the
naughtiness that Carla is in bed. Yeah, I don't. I

(22:27):
never thought that Carla the character was just um oh no, no, no,
there's no way. Nobody's just one thing. Zach, Yes, but
I think Carla, in my estimation, is probably fun in bed.
I bet you Turk is too, though. Yeah, but we
learned that Turk falls asleep right after he finishes. It

(22:48):
doesn't matter. None of these none of these things tracked.
None of the stuff tracks. None of none of the
none of these storylines track. They're all jokes, kind of
like Family Guy in a lot of ways, where it's
funny at the moment and then the next you know,
it's it's something different. By the way, Donald, I know
you don't watch TV that's not Star Wars. But Brian,
are you watching um the Great at all? With uh?

(23:10):
I watched the first season and I want to watch
more and it it is so good. It's so late
to the party on the show me too. I'm way behind.
I'll tell your wife because she'll love it. She likes
TV shows that aren't about star wars um and Joelle, Joelle,
you love it. Yes, Imagine if like Season one of

(23:31):
Bridgerton was more focused on like a power couple, and
that power couple hated each other. It's that sort of
vibe like sometimes it's kind of steamy, it's I also
love that it's sop thing. Yeah, it's so it's so edgy.
I think and like X and and and and it's
so so falling asleep right now this Okay, T give

(23:59):
a system tank forever, wo tank forever. All right, he's back,
he's back, all I go on, all right, anyway, I
recommend you all. It's on Hulu and Nicholas Holds, who
the hell knew? He was so funny. He's fucking hilarious.
Yeah you should get a hussah as a drop, I think, yeah,
drop for you, ok yeah, um, okay, So they steal

(24:23):
counsel's RV. Ted comes back to talk to them while
he's supposed to be driving. I thought that was that
was very funny. Who's driving the RV? Oh my bad?
That was funny. Okay, Elliott is confiding in someone, and
then we that her father Um did hug her in fact,
but not with his arms, with his mind. Yes, And

(24:44):
we learned and we revealed that she's confiding that in Rowdy,
we revealed, as we said, we learned that Ted has
watched his mom have sex. Then the janitor were has
been a sewere and he steps out of the RV,
not knowing it's moving, and when he falls out, he
hurts his head and doesn't remember that he has. You

(25:08):
guys didn't check the back into RV to see if
anybody was in there. So we were, but we were
in the first of all, this RV is not that big.
We were back there doing the pole dancing. Right, there's
not multiple bedrooms in this RV. He could have been
sleeping under the bed I mean there's a lot of

(25:29):
He's a very large man. Neil Flynn, I don't know
where the geography of where he was that he missed
us back there pole dancing, I don't know or that
you missed him. Anyway, he walks out, he hits his head,
and then he we stopped and he forgets that he
knows that he knows any of them, right, But also,

(25:51):
for the first time in the show's history, he's kind
to JD. Not only is he kind to j D,
he's very passionate about JD's quest that wants to join
him on it, and at the act break the JD
thinks he can make it through a tunnel. I remember
when we shot this that it was you didn't laugh

(26:14):
at this, You didn't I could totally make it into
the black. Yeah, that was funny. I remember that we
didn't do it green screen because we did a rear
projection and and it actually looks better than I think
green screen would have because green screen and cars still
to this day does not look good for some bizarre reason.

(26:37):
I also like the choice that it was not big
enough with wise as opposed to height wise, which is
kind of like the obvious choice, Like you know, you
get the RVA haircutt and all of a sudden, No,
I like that you took the side. Yeah, I thought
that was funny. I thought that was a funny choice.
They bought V I remember, I remember that they bought

(26:58):
the RV because they had to destroy it. He just
bought like a really like the cheapest RV you could
buy um and then ripped the side off of it.
Do you remember you weren't there? You weren't there. But anyway,
for those of you film geeks, it's it's not green screen,
it's rear projection. They're projecting the road onto screens the

(27:18):
old school style away and I didn't take a look
that bad for what it's worth. So then then we're
all wearing kimonos to stay warm. Now I want to
talk a bit about what's happening back at the hospital. So, uh,
there's a scary um thing with with Jordan's ultrasound. Yeah, no, no,

(27:38):
but Cox, why does he want you in the room?
He doesn't, He doesn't seem to because he's not allowed.
He's not allowed in the room because he's family. Even
though he works at the hospital, he's not allowed in
the room. But he wants Turk in the room to
make sure that everything goes well with the surgery. As
far as his wife is concerned. He's already made up

(27:59):
his mind, seems like that, oh, this means the baby's
going to have problems, now, you know what I mean?
Right and so, But but he's never really respected you
as a surgeon. And even though audience, yeah, you think
he's just being a dick. Yeah, I think you know,
I think, well, I think this is telling about that.
I think he does. I mean, this is the most

(28:21):
intimate kind of thing. And he's like, I want you
in there. And that's about as hard truth as there
is right there, right, because he could ask doctor, when
he could ask so many other people to be in there, right,
instead he asks he does hell ask Beard for say,
to turn his foot at the right angle so he
can bowl your cell phone down. Though you didn't like that,

(28:41):
you didn't like that cell phone toss off the foot,
she was hilarious. Yeah, and then you didn't like the
mickhead coming down the hallway with the cell phone. Mickhead
tried to steal your phone, right, But then you're summing around,
You're coming around. You guys are convincing me was funny
than it was. But do you remember when I like,
I did like and you go, um, oh, really do

(29:02):
you have do you have Carlo on your phone? He's like,
uh yeah, you're like, oh I haveond I got Tyra Banks,
Tyra Banks, Star Banks. Before Beyonce, it was Tarra Banks.
Halie Berry is still up in there, though Hallie Berry
is still up in there. Were you able to um
to pick which beautiful woman um Donald or was it
written into the script that it was Tyra Banks? Tyra,

(29:24):
I mean Tyra Banks after Chris Rock said her name
as little Penny Tara Banks. It's probably the funniest name
to say. And so just so if you mean, because
it's a unique name and she's so beautiful. It was
a good punchline. Absolutely, And it's got the it's got

(29:46):
the classic, it's got the hard see the hardy comedy
writers like like Plugman love a hard k sound. Yeah,
you know, tom tomatoes not funny, Banks, Chicken funny. Chicken's funny.
Tomato's not funny. Everybody, you're getting out right, those of
you write comedy, aspiring comedy writers. You're from one of
the top uh advertising creatives in the country. Right now

(30:09):
you're getting a secret Tomato not funny. But don't don't
let that out. Don't let it out. Okay, now it's out, Bunny.
You know everybody knows an now you're ruined. Everybody case
sound it's funny. A little bit of trivia for you. Brian.
I hope I can reveal this, Brian. If not, we'll
cut it. But Brian is the voice of of T Mobile.

(30:31):
Whenever you hear all of those T Mobile ads, it's Brian,
A lot of them, a lot of them. Yeah, I
hear you all the time when my TV's on. I
hear you like T Mobile, and I hope it brings
comfort to you. It does a lot of you know what,
we should bring this up too, so you know everybody
loves to talk about my uh Neil Diamond, and yes, yes,

(30:54):
bring this up. Brian's Neil Diamond impersonation is twenty times
like if you want to talk about another level, his
level is like, it's like twenty levels above my Neil Diamond.
Don't know. Let me just give, Let me just give.
I would give them my Neil Diamond. Do the same sentence,
Do the same sentence. What are we going with? Can

(31:14):
we sing the Transformers? Oh? You want to do a
non Neil Diamond song as Neil Diamond, Donald, you go first,
because everyone's heard this the Transformers more than meets the eye.
Here we go, same sentence. Whatever you want to do

(31:34):
Transformers more than meets the eye. I'm a little stuffy today,
you're a little reover rusty. But Brian, we briefly tell
the audience, um that you. Brian is so in the
Neil Diamond that he as a hobby, not as a

(31:57):
money making venture, puts on full well Neil Diamond concerts
And I'm my biggest fear of my whole life has
been to sing in front of an audience. Right. And
about fifteen years back, a friend of mine says, when
you sing, you sound like Neil Diamond, and I said,

(32:19):
I know. My whole life, I've been told that. And
he says, you should do a show. And I said, okay, great,
you put a band together and I'll do a show,
because who the hell is going to put a band together?
You know what I mean. Next day he calls me,
he says, We're booked a hotel cafe. I've got a
huge I got a huge band for you. And I
was like, oh well, I said I was going to
do it. And I was so nervous that I actually

(32:41):
peed in my pants on the night of the show.
I was really I thought people just did that in
the movies. They really know. It was crazy. I never
thought it would happen, and it happened. And how wait,
how did people spot like in the movies? No, No,
it's before right, before I went on, and I changed
my pants before I went on, but they were still tight,
like Neil Diamond's very very like a second skin. And

(33:03):
then I went out there and I did it, and
now I've done it. I did it like every five years,
and I have a huge band and incredible group, and
it's it's like a weird cross between I don't know,
it's a kind of like a performance art or something,
and but do you sing? But you do sing well
as Neil Diamonds, so it's kind of like a Neil Diamond. Yeah,

(33:24):
it's like, yeah, it's weird. It's like somehow a cross
between performance art and a real show. But everyone seems
to have a really good time. They've all been sold out,
and like, I mean, it's so bizarre. I know you're
very busy with your career and your new baby, but
why haven't I been able to see well to go
to the next one? Got up? Can Donald come up

(33:45):
with the next one and do Transformers? I don't want
to do transform but I'm want to do love on
the Racks. I'll tell you what. I want to come
up and do Wickhount and do America. And then it
sounds like I don't have to do anything, which is great.
I want to do a duet, Donald, but can you
you and I could do you don't bring me flowers

(34:06):
and we both diamond singing to each other. Who sings
the female part? Streisan? But you could take her down?
I can't. Yeah, no, you do it as diamond, Papa.
Can you hear me? It's oh no, no no. But
that's another idea. Another idea would be to do a
Yental cover. Yeah, I was gonna say a Knight of
Yental a night Oh my god, Brian, will you help

(34:29):
me produce? Can we call it a night of a
thousand Yentals? Oh my god, Donald, if you and I
did a Knight of Yental, we would sell the fuck out.
We wouldn't need we didn't need a hotel cafe. We'd
need we'd need the what do you call the Hollywood Bowl.
Oh my god, people are clamoring for this. I can
you know, Oh boy, oh boy, coming, it's coming. Yental

(34:51):
was such a like my father's wet dream. It was
like it was so Jewish, and it was Barbara streisand
and it was a mute was the goal, and it
was about a rabbi. It was about someone whose desire
to be a rabbi was so strong that she had
to hide her sex to be to be to be
a rabbi. And my father was like, this is the
greatest movie you ever ever made. It's got everything anything

(35:13):
I could ever want. The last time you've watched gentle guys,
I don't know, but my father made us watch it
four thousand times. Can you hear me? By the way,
brilliant Manny Patinkin, Mandy Petenkin, that's right, amazing. Watch it.
That's how a Yental watch party. That's what we should do. Sure,
movies like that that people have forgotten about. What such
you stars never watch Gental? I don't know. I think

(35:37):
you should. Well, you're gonna need to watch it when
you prepare for the show. I would imagine for your
Yental extravaganza. So yeah, at the Hollywood Bowl. I would
love it if the Hollywood Bowl, If anyone works for
the Hollywood Bowl and wants the host, Donald and I
perform Yental and we do all the parts. I see
that as something that's gonna happen, not just something we're talking.

(35:58):
And what do you think we should do? The running
out of episodes we're running out of episodes of Scrubs. Um,
what do you do when you run out of episodes?
We have, but we have a very large fan base
all over the world, and you're a very creative guy.
There's been I think you guys are really good at
analyzing films and all kinds of content. Why wouldn't you
just say, Hey, today we're gonna pick we're gonna talk

(36:21):
about Today, we're gonna talk about Gentle Yeah, exactly. So
that would be so great to talk about movies like that. Yeah,
you know what I mean, like to talk about movies
that you know, maybe lot a lot of people haven't seen.
We have a very young audience also to introduce them
to we could bring that. We could surely get someone
relevant to the film to come on. Stan would totally

(36:46):
do the Like if we do Beverly Hill's Cop. We
might not get Eddie, but we might get Rosewood Met
the Past. I think so. I think so. I think
so could probably get Rosewood. Maybe we could get Searge
Bronson Pinchow. If we get Rosewood, we could also ask
him about the Phoebe Kates um most glorious moment in

(37:08):
cinema history. So there you go. That's clearly a way
you could keep. And you could also do a version
where you pick a movie preef beforehand and Donald picks
a movie and then you're like, okay, Ferres Peeler's Day Off?
All right, what is Everybody's seen that movie? I know?
But do you want to do movies? You know? I
think we'll do an occasional obscure one like Gentle and

(37:29):
introduce our fans to the Majesty. You don't have to
figure you don't have to figure it out right now though,
how I figure it out? Back to the show. Should
we take a break? Joel back? Wait, Wait, we're gonna
take a break. We're gonna talk about what a beach
Kim is. When we come back, We'll be right back

(37:50):
back Bay. I mean, Kim is the worst person in
the world. She may be mad. She made me mad. No,
I don't remember hating her. I don't remember hating the
character as much. But this is fucking sinister evil. Yeah.
She even they even go and have conversations about you know,

(38:10):
what it would have been like if they were together
and you know, a pizza. Yeah, yeah, all I mean
she's a sociopath. Yeah, that's that's really I mean, I
wrote down when I was watching, I was like, that's
pretty dark twist at the end there, like I didn't

(38:31):
see it coming at all. I'm like, whoa what I mean?
How could no human being who's not evil or as
a sociopath with no conscience could do this? I think
just a little yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, okay. So I
get what Kim is trying to do in that She's like,

(38:54):
I don't want this person to be with me out
of obligation. I want you to be here for I love.
Where it becomes misguided is g D is like show
genuinely showing up because he wants to be there, right,
he wants to get to know this kid, right, but
not enough to like move to another city this quickly,
because at the end of the conversation, they're basically like,

(39:16):
how but how do you put somebody in that situation?
Right then? And there also it's like, all right, look,
we're not going to have this baby. Maybe in two weeks,
you maybe in a week or something. You discuss it,
but you don't say, okay, so these are the things
I didn't tell you. We're not going to have this baby.
They offered me the job. I'm gonna stay Do you

(39:37):
want to stay with me? How the fuck is he
supposed to say yes to that? Shits? And you don't
have to lie, you don't have to lie. You can
say I'm not sure how this gonna work out? What
is her plan for the rest of eternity. It's a
terrible mistake. I'm sorry I ever disagree with you because

(39:57):
you are a queen. But there's no defense, no defense.
I you know, I don't. I don't understand it. That's
the thing. I just don't understand the miscarriage. Yeah, it's twisted.
So happy and excited and and and they sit on

(40:17):
that bench, and and the actor who played GD was
really good in the scene, and he was amazing, and
he saw how heartbroken he was. Yeah, and that woman
had the audacity did not just do like a quick lie,
a full night's worth of lying. No, it was a lie, lie.
It was like it was a full on. It was
a full on. You know. At some point during that

(40:40):
night her story had to get a little freaking twisted,
and she found a way to bring it back to
make him believe, like, there's no way you can hold
up a lie for twelve hours talking about you know
what I mean, she's gonna have to hold it up
for the rest of her life. Well literally, well it

(41:00):
all comes back. It spoilers. But this song at the end, Now, Brian,
we recently learned we're allowed to play thirty seconds of
a song if we talk, if we analyze it. Okay,
we used to think we weren't allowed to ever play anything.
But this song at the end by Ron Sexsmith called
Hands of Time. I thought it was very great, is

(41:28):
very very sweet. Yeah, you know, Donald, I don't know
what the song is about. I can't. I can barely
hear it, but it sounds very melancholic. All right, we
analyzed it. It's a pretty song. Check it out Ron Sexsmith,
Hands of Time. Um, that's the song that ends the episode.

(41:51):
So before we go into the Caller and everything like that,
I do want to talk about the Kelso situation and
all of this, you know, with him talking about Al
Green and Turk knowing who Al Green is because he's black,
and the whole Asian fetish thing. Uh, you know, I
think they're trying to tell us that this is a
bad guy, you know what I mean, for all of

(42:13):
these even though he's part of that Algreen thing that
he goes she has calcoma? Is that is the is
the implication that you're gonna sing is Algreen? Yes? Yes, terrible.
He's a terrible. He's a terrible, terrible, terrible person. Yes,
I think Donald's right there. I'm not gonna lie, though.

(42:34):
I laugh at some of this shit, man, Like a
lot of this shit. I laugh at a lot of this.
A lot of his racism fucking makes me laugh. Man,
I'm not gonna Archie Bunker. It's like Archie Bunker. I mean,
isn't it. You're you're you're you're laughing at someone who's
so delusional and old and often an asshole. Yeah, I
mean like yeah, but I don't know, man, there's humor.

(42:56):
I don't know there's humor in it. Like he bought
that RV to take Edith. He was like, oh, me
and Edith, they're gonna like retire in this and they're like, oh,
is it will she accessible? He's like, well, no, she's
gonna be dead in three years. And if she's not,
I'll come to that bridge. What I like. Horrible human
be terrible. The Comodo closet in the RV and Edith

(43:19):
has au coma and he didn't get al Green tickets,
so he's gonna have a green. Yeah. Man, it's a
mess your al Green impression. I don't. My al Green
impression is horrible. Okay, I also have an al Green show.
I do once every time. It all right, we'll be

(43:39):
right back with a collar and all right, Joel, bring
in this collar. I can't wait to see what you've
brought us. Joel always brings us wonderful callers. Everybody, we
got a call, you know, like a bottle maybe talking

(44:05):
about the episode. So come on, ladies and gentlemen, give
it up for mcla. Hello, Belcolm, he's still going, um, MICHAELA.

(44:31):
That's our friend Brian. He's joining us for the show.
And you know, of course the legendary DJ Daniel who
is often twitching the new show a new game, Elden ring.
Is that how you say it? You nailed it? And
I put him on a put him on a text
chain with my nephew who now they can geek out.
Did you connect with Henry? Oh my god, we talked

(44:52):
for like a solid two hours straight about video games.
It was really were you like, do you would you
tell him which spelled to use on which feature? He's
telling me he's farther. He's way farther than I am.
He's so much better. I think I made a real
nice bromance there, and there's our Queen Joel is it?
And yes, hello to say hello to the queen. Oh, hello,
Queen Joel mar Yes, Casey's not here, but if she were,

(45:17):
she'd say this, Yes, Donald, what is it? Shut the
fuck up? Um? Daniel? Um? Yes, Daniel. Is it like
Red Dead Redemption too? But with wands and swords? No? No, no,
it's it's closer to Zelda. Wow. That that was a
long pause in between. Well, all I know is both

(45:39):
DJ Daniel and my nephew Henry love throwing. What do
you call um spells? Kids? You like to cast a
spell on a on a on a What do you
call the guy at the end of the at the
end of the level? Boss? There you go, Daniel. Daniel's
idea of a dream day is beating a boss with

(45:59):
a spell ell yet perfect, perfect Sunday. That sounds awesome.
Were talking about I really need to get into video
games one day. Alright, MICHAELA, tell us about why Joel
chose you? Why you're here. Um, it's hard to get
past our bouncer, Joel. Somehow you did? What what's your story?

(46:20):
Your story must be great. Well, it's pretty exciting. But
um I tag Joel in a post that I made
on Instagram last week. Um, as I was about to
go into surgery. Um. Because last November, you guys did
a podcast with a guest who talked about how she
donated her kidney. And because of that episode, I immediately

(46:44):
took the quiz on the National Donor Registry, and last
week I donated my kidney. Oh my whoa, I just
got every piece of my body. Oh my god. I
want you guys to know that, like you have saved
a life. Like I know you've you know, you've made
a difference in a lot of people's life. But like,

(47:06):
because of your podcast, I was able to help someone
save a life and it was only because of you. So,
oh my god, I'm speechless. Jo I literally have goosebumps
on every cell of my body. You're incredible. So so
for those who do who missed that episode, MICHAELA, let's
go through it. Um. We had someone on who said

(47:29):
they they looked at the registry and um, Joel you'll
look up tell me I want to reference it again
with the registrates. But you and you can see if
you're a candidate for this, right and if they're looking
for someone. How does it? How does it work? I
don't know why I'm trying to figure out, MICHAELA. How
does it work? Sure, there's a on like the National
Kidney website. There's a potential donor survey that you basically

(47:53):
go on and fill out. It took me about an hour.
It was kind of expensive but kind of about your
lifestyle things like that. And from there, we don't want
people to take bong hits some with their one morning coffee.
I'm imagining. So you're not a really candidate. Wait, hold up,
we'd effects the kidney No, yeah, I didn't think so Okay,
I mean I don't think you can be like a

(48:15):
serious like user like maybe every day might count. I don't.
I don't, I don't. I don't use it, Okay, I
smoked smoke. Okay, all right, So I don't use it.
So you took like an outlook, it takes you about
an hour to fill out the paperwork and then then
what happens? Yeah, from THERETT really snowballed kind of quickly. Um.

(48:38):
They a center in my state contacted me and they
set up just a bunch of tests. I started doing
blood tests and from there I did some urine screens
and they took me in and did a full day appointment,
like a head to toe medical screen. UM, a bunch
of scans and stuff. I spoke with surgeons and nephrologists,

(49:01):
kidney doctors and all these people, and they determined that
I was a good candidate. And uh, you can say
no at any step in the process. Um, but I
kind of I kind of just felt like it was
meant for me. So that's incredible. No, no, no, have
you how long ago did you have the surgery? A
week ago? She said? Yeah, last Friday? Jesus? But you

(49:22):
look are you okay? You look perfectly like like you're not?
I mean to me, you look like you could do
you feel okay? You look great? Chewie says, you look
strong enough to pull the ears off a gun. Darn understand. Sorry, No,
I'm doing pretty well. Um. I was in the hospital
for about three days. Um, and then now I'm at home.

(49:45):
I mean, I'm living on this reclining um chair. But
they say, a couple of weeks and I should be
up and back to doing things like normal. I'm taking
three weeks off of work, but other than that, I'm
starting I'm starting to get an appetite back. I'm feeling
a lot more like myself. So can you save someone's life?
I'm in awe. I'm in awe. I feel very, very

(50:05):
fortunate to be able to be someone's life. I mean,
you get to live with that, mitzvah, your entire life.
My god, Now, are there any I think the answer
is no, But are there any restrictions that you now
have to live by only having one kidney? The only
thing is I have to make sure I drink a
lot of water, more than I would normally drink, probably

(50:28):
like up to like eighty ounces a day. But it's
not terrible, Like I drink a good amount of water.
And then you just have to make sure you can't
take a lot of medications that are processed in the kidney,
like advil or astron or things like that, or like
antibiotics either than really huh, like an antibiotic could kind
of fuck you up? Huh. Yeah, I'm certain pain meds
and stuff like that, like they had to be for

(50:50):
particular pain meds that I was given in the hospital
and things like that. But for the most part, within
a couple months, I can go back to living my
life like normal. And I'm pretty young and healthy and
so I don't think it'll have too much of an
impact on my life. Did they tell you or is
it secret who you saved? Well, this is actually pretty cool. Um.
It was anonymous. UM, so I gave anonymously. But they

(51:12):
did tell me that the person that got my kidney
happened to be at that same hospital, which is pretty rare.
And they said that the person that wanted to donate
to them couldn't. They weren't a match. So that person
donated to someone else and I donated to them. So
it was a bit of a chain that you were
the piece of a puzzle that needed to be put

(51:34):
into place for two people to get kidneys. So did
they I know you didn't do that. I know you
did this for totally philanthropic reasons. But did they give
you any financial help with work or compensation at all? Um?
There's a fund um that can reimburse up to four
weeks of lost wages, which is awesome. UM, and I

(51:54):
live in a state where there is a transplant center.
But they can also reimburse you for traveling expenses if
you have to travel for an appointment or something. So
they're paying me my lost wages for a three weeks,
which is great, um and incredible human Brian, I don't
know what that person. I mean. I can't, I really can't. Brian,

(52:15):
you were a fascinating guest until MC. You're just gonna
put it out there. I'm just gonna put it out
there stage. You're just a funny writer. Wow. Wow you guys.
Well I I love that you say that, and and
it makes me very moved. I I I really have
to from to be totally sincere the idea that gosh,

(52:38):
you know, we we we hear all the time at
this show and we see the numbers that a lot
of people are listening, and we can't believe it, but
we um, we we just think. We hope, we hope
we're brightening people's day, you know, just being ourselves and
hopefully you know that's all we all, all me and
Donald can do. And what Brian does is is is
hopefully make someone giggle. Um, that idea that our guest

(52:59):
would would and do inspire you, and that could, for
all we host inspire somebody else. I mean, that is
just so moving to me. I mean you and you
get to live with the with the honor that you
saved somebody's life. I just think that's incredible. And I'm
so impressed by you. I'm so impressed by you. And
you're a young woman and you So what do you do?

(53:20):
What do you do? I'm a microbiologists Like she's like,
I'm an assassin. Really balances out CIA and I can't
discuss anything further. Um, well, sorry, what do you do? Um?

(53:42):
I'm a microbiosologist at a hospital here, so I right
now I do a lot of COVID testing. For about
the last two years, I've done a lot of codes.
There's a lot of work in that, I hear, um
and um always busy. Wow, my goodness. I assume you
liked the show because you wouldn't have been listening to

(54:03):
this darn thing. You didn't do you do you have
any I feel bad moving on, but you're here. Do
you have any questions for us? Do you have anything
you want to ask? We can we fix your life,
like in any possible way? Sure? Well, one of the
questions I've always had for you and Donald is just
kind of how you guys maintain such a good friendship,
you know, through all of life ups and down, through

(54:23):
marriages and moving and being on different sides of the country.
You know, I have a best friend who I'm really
close with, but I feel like every time we go
through major life changes, it's so hard to figure out
a new balance or stay close. And I love your friendship.
I think that's the biggest reason why I love the
show and this show. So I'm curious what you guys

(54:44):
do to make it work. I say, can I be
honest with you wife? My wife is a strong, a
strong part of it. But in all honestly, we have
this we have we have even though we grew up
in different parts of the like he grew up in
Jersey and I grew up in New York. It's very
close and similar, but we have kind of the same upbringing.

(55:07):
We did kind of the same things as kids. Uh.
And when you find somebody who's a lot like you know,
it's Hollywood and you meet a lot of people that
are very similar in that way. But a lot of
the things that we did as youths are very very
similar and it's really weird, you know what I mean,
Like he has he has things that he did, Like

(55:29):
I don't want to bring up the forum, but like
that's something that you know, you know, there are a
lot of things that id a lot ideologies that we
have that are similar as well. And so he can
put up with he can put up with who I am,
and I can put up with who with who he is.
And we could say that shit to each other and
it and and uh and know that after this we're

(55:51):
gonna drop this shit and we're still going to be
friends like now. And also we had a very unique
experience that that that who else would ever really have
have UM, and that is that we spent ten years
um not you know, we had breaks through the year,
but for ten years every day together, every weekday together

(56:12):
making each other laugh. And our our job was like
crack each other up. Our job was like say these
lines and then also come up with new lines to
make to be funny. And we just bonded and we
have UM. I've seen, we've we've seen each other through.
We've been with each other through thick and thin, and
we do get in fights and it's often Casey who

(56:33):
helps us make up. Um, she's our she's our our
couples therapists and um and um and sometimes you know,
by the way, we wouldn't this podcast has been wonderful
for our friendship because we wouldn't. We wouldn't talk every
week necessarily this much. So it's kind of like you

(56:54):
and your your friend, if you if you, if you
promised and you had a hard commitment that every you know, Thursday,
at one o'clock, you were gonna do an hour and
a half FaceTime catchup. Um, we've done that. We've committed
to that and UM, and so that keeps us in
really good touch and UM. And I just love him
When I see his face, I just smile. I really do.

(57:17):
I don't know, man, I really I you know, like
your dad, your mom, my mom, Like you know, I
would say my dad, you know, be he's a bit
of a loaner. But like even when they met each other,
it was it's it's I feel like it's the same thing.
Like I feel like there's some form of family that

(57:39):
we have. It's also interesting too that are both of
the sets of our parents, well not my mom, but
your parents and my dad were both fairing in the theater,
and they were just very similar, even though Donald lived
in the city and I was out in the suburbs.
You know, we've said this before. We just we just
we just had the same sense of humor. And it
all began when I saw him at the at the
table read for Scrubs and he was early at the

(58:01):
bar getting a drink at Bill's in Christa's house, remember,
and he turned around, Hey, and You're like, hey, I
was like a famous guy, He's famous, And then we talked.
I remember, I just remember being like, I can't wait
for the table read to see how he's gonna do this,
and everybody left. You didn't think I could bring it.

(58:25):
We're using I was so nervous, dude. Look I bought
a lot of money riding on this fucking guy. Dude,
think about it. You had every line in the fucking
script pretty much. And I remember thinking, I have no
idea who this guy is. He has zero from my
from from my point of view, he has zero credentials

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to be able to pull this off. Let's see what
he within Within two within two minutes of the table read,
he had won not only myself but everybody in the
room over everybody walking out of that ship was like,
I feel good about where we are with this, Like, yeah,
it was, it was. It was a great we know

(59:07):
that we'd go well the show would go nine years
or eight? Um, you have another question or a fix
your life for us? Um. So a bunch of TV

(59:28):
shows will do like crossover episodes like you know in
the Arrowbirth or one of my favorites is a New
Girl in Brooklyn My nine by those, I knew you
were going to say that, yes Tomorrow, Legends of Tomorrow. Yes,
I was wondering if you were going to bring that
up with the crossover episode of Legends of Tomorrow. I'm sorry,

(59:49):
I just want to talk about it. Pick the show
off CW Okay, sorry MICHAELA go ahead, Well you kind
of answer, but I'm cerious if the Scrubs characters were
to do a crossover with another TV show, which would
you have wanted to do? But I think the fans,
I think the fans would want to see us in
Psyched together. Yeah, that's with that type of crossover. I

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have to admit I've never seen an episode of Psych.
I've never watched one episode of Psych, but I love funny.
It's really it's funny. It's yeah, it's well. I don't
know if it's because I have a little mild resentment
that they took our shack and ran with it, but um,
and then they took Sarah Chalk, who had the fucking
down on Sarah the fucking trader and trader fucking trader

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was a trader and she was on how I Met
your mother making out with Josh Radner hussy, whoa, whoa, whoa.
That Yeah, there's your answer, MICHAELA. I'm I'm speechless. But um,
I do want to talk about one more thing before
we end the show, and that is Brian. Brian wrote

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a beautiful Brian as a new Baby, and Brian is
an incredible writer, and Brian and Brian that book is amazing.
But you wrote a beautiful, so beautiful, beautiful children's book,
and I want to talk about and I hope that
you'll tell us all about it, called you are you
tell us just about the which you can get on Amazon,
you can get anywhere. It's it's not one of those

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self published things. It's it's Simon and Schuster, as I believe,
so it's really everywhere. Tell us about the impetus and
I imagine having a new baby. Tell us about it, Brian.
You know, I've always been interested in children's books, but
especially a certain kind, the kind that kind of spoke
to adult as well as like younger. You know, someone
gives you all the places you'll go when you graduate,

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you know, high school, or they give you the giving tree,
some kind of adult themes. When I was growing up,
they didn't have a word for it, but I was
undiagnosed bipolar, right, and that's been a journey for me
of like self acceptance, of self love, and you kind
of go through these hard fought lessons, and I wanted
to see if I could kind of take those thoughts

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and make them kind of elementally boiled down to like
that elemental level where you could speak to a children,
speak to children of all ages. So this book really
was my attempt to be like I wish someone had
handed me this book when I was a kid, something
about something about loving yourself in this way, and you

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know also kind of you know, all these things you
might want to change about yourself can actually be like
your greatest strengths and putting that into there. So I
wrote the book. All the proceeds from me are going
to mind Up, which is an incredible nonprofit association that
really teaches tools to children so they can adopt and

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cope with stress. And mental health for children really is
where this book lives. But I hope it's something that
can talk to like emotion, feel like it talks to
every everybody really, you know, I feel like I feel
like you know, when reading it, I was just like
you said, I wish somebody had talked to me this
way when I was young, because you know, we all

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have our insecurities. I wrote, I wrote down that the
book is very uh it's it's a confidence booster and children.
If children could hear what you're saying to them in
this book every day, just imagine how confident they could
feel going out in the world, being comfortable with just

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being themselves. Yeah, I mean, And I think The Giving
Tree is a great example in that your child is
going to appreciate it on one level and you, the
adult reading it, are going to appreciate it on a
whole other level. And I think it's very hard to
write like that. The book is is very simply written,

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So your child will, I imagine it will. It will
start a dialogue with your with your child too as
reading into them because it's so inspirational. But I had
like tears in my eyes when I was reading it.
And I also have to say the illustrations were amazing.
Who who did those? Oh, Brian, It's done by a
guy named Alex Stephen Martin, And I just read him

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with him because you could you could pick anybody because
you're you. I you know, I just randomly was connected
with him and I looked at some of his art
and I was like, this is very whimsical and kind
of has that feel that I wanted. And you know,
we were talking about the shel Silverstein stuff. I love
those line drawings, those simple elegant drawings, maybe a little
bit of watercolor, and he just brought that vibe and

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I just fell in love with it. Yeah. I love
that everything in the book is characters too, like just
different types of characters. Yeah, Becau. Isn't there like a
cactus at one point? That's right? Yeahoint like my my
super cactus. Yeah yeah, really really sweet drawings. Brian. For real,

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it was such a great joy to read. Oh, thank
you so much. It's something, you know, it's like something
that I'm so proud of that. I really, I really
hope can some of those books that you were talking about,
like they made a difference to me. And I hope,
you know, not just about raising the money for mental health,
but like drawing some awareness to that in the space

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for children. I think it would be an incredible thing
to be a part of. I really hope people buy
the book and buy this book. It's you are you,
and it's putting put up by Simon and Schusters, So
you know, it's no bs, It's not one of those
our friend wrote a book. It's it's um, it's I
actually think it will come out the day this is
right now, there you go, it's coming out today, and um,

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Amazon or any imagine we'll be in bookstores for real,
because yes, correct and get it. Because not only are
you supporting a good cause, um, all the all Brian's
proceeds go to mind up a friend of mine. Uh
these are by the way, hearing you guys talk about
it and saying that stuff and feeling how heartfelt it

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is very very touching to me, to be honest, this
is something I've been working on a long time. So
now that it's coming out into the world and hearing
the response. It's really touching. A friend of mine gave
it to his kid the other day who's seven years old,
and the kid read it with his dad and he said,
this book makes me feel calm, and I think, yeah.
And when he said that, I said, that's the only

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blurb I want on the book. You know what I mean, like,
this book makes me feel calm, seven year old. Mind
up dot org is the website if you're curious. I'm
Brian just mentioned it's Goldie Hawn's charity. If you're curious
about that. All of the proceeds from Brian go to
mind up dot org and just get it because it's

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a beautiful story to read your kids and make them
feel confident. MICHAELA. I sorry that Brian tried to steal
your limelight. I really didn't. I'm in awe. It's like
a battle. It's like a battle today. Man, It's like
having MICHAELA upstage Brian and then Briankael was I go, yeah, well,
I raise you a kidney. Brian was yeah, well, I hell,

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I'm donating my proceeds from the book and both of
my kidneys. You don't want to do both, right, I'm
sure As a fake doctor. I advise you not to
do both. Don't do both, all right, that's our show, guys, MICHAELA.
I I'm speechless. You are such an inspiration and um,

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and I think you're an incredible human being. And if
you are ever down and having a shitty moment, as
we humans are, I want you to remind yourself that
you saved someone's life and maybe put that on a
giant whiteboard in your in your house, because I write
inspirational things on whiteboards all around my house and uh, yours,

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yours trumps any of mine life. Um, and then remind people,
um where to go if they want to do a
similar thing. What's the website, MICHAELA? Do you went to? Um?
I grew a National Kidney Registry and I think that'll
pretty much take you there. There's a button that says
donate and they can tell you all about it. Okay,

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if you are a saint on earth like MICHAELA, go
to the National Kidney Registry or searched for that on
the interwebs and you will find it. That's our show, Donald,
anything else you want to say, what a great show.
It was a great show. Two really awesome guests. Yeah,
thank you for having Brian Brian I am. I want

(01:08:32):
to thank you for uh you know, mentioning Zach and
I for this whole team Mobile thing, because that's probably
one of the coolest moments of my life. To you
were in the super Bowl. Super Bowl. I feel like
we played in the game. I feel I feel like
we won. I feel like Spectacus even though she came

(01:08:55):
in one for most search. She's the biggest movie star
in the world, so we need she's the black widow.
I get it. Yeah, down's biggest movie star in the world.
And then technically we won. We won. That makes you
the second biggest movie star in the world. Guys, congratulations,
yeah yeah, so take that, okay, right, We love you all,

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