910: Our True Lies with Kerry Bishé and Eliza Coupe

On this week's episode, Dr Cox finds a cheat sheet during a test and locks up the study group until one of them admits the cheating. In the real world, Kerry Bishé, aka Lucy, and Eliza Coupe, aka Denise, join us to recap the episode. 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Speaking of this song, I found a recreation of the
Lionel Richie sculpture from Hello, and I asked Donald if
I could buy it for him, and he said no.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Please, No, I said please? No is what I said, Yes,
as much as I know, listen, I know it's art
and I know someone took the time to three D
print this bad boy.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
No, no, no, I think it's really sculpted. No, it is.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
There's only one real sculpture, and that's the one they
use for the music video.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
Yeah, but if I gave that to everything else, you wouldn't.
You wouldn't just no pun intended a bust. Get it
because it's a bust of Lionel Ritchie, Yeah, no doubt.
All right, thank you. If I gave that to you,
you wouldn't display it in your home.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
I would not display that in.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
My Why not? How about the kitchen?

Speaker 2 (00:48):
My friend? My friend? Are you right now?

Speaker 1 (00:53):
It's such a funny conversation piece.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
It's not a fun Zach brought me this as a
joke for my fiftieth. People will go, oh.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
I'm sure that Daniel, you missed it. I was telling
Donald that I found online a recreation of the Lionel
Richie Bust from the Hello music video.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
I could see it in your eyes and.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
I want to buy it for him, but he won't.
He's not He's unwilling to accept it.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
I don't understand that part. She's blind, right, but in
her eyes.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
See into a blind person's eyes, Donald, Yeah, he can
usually them.

Speaker 4 (01:29):
Things is white, like if Stevie wanted to takes off
his carols.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Listen, Stevie wanted to takes off his glasses. That things
is white.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
It doesn't matter. What he sees in her eyes is love.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
He could see it in a smile. Now that I understand.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
She did a really good job on his head, by
the way, I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
She really that's how she sees him.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
I know, but it's amazing. I think she did it
from touching his face. But her work was outstanding.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Yeah, and he's a stalker.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
No, I don't think in that Dan and Era the
the actress would have to be blind. But I feel
like today it would be necessary that she was a
blind woman.

Speaker 5 (02:07):
Yeah, probably, you try to.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
And she would have to really know how to sculpt too.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
Yeah, she'd probably also have to really be a sculptor.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Really, I think I think she'd have to be a sculptor.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
In twenty twenty four, Joel, she would need to be
a very talented blind sculptor.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Just like I can't play I can't play single in
movies anymore. I gotta play freaking married in every movie
I'm in now, because that's a requirements, I'm no.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
Longer sing true. Are you allowed to have sex scenes
with Casey? Lets you? Oh you did do a sex scene?
What was that show on the l Yeah? I was
Casey okay with that?

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yes, very much?

Speaker 1 (02:48):
So, oh she didn't mind.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Listen, Lisia has no interest in me, and so that
sex scene is purely professional. That is going nowhere. Okay,
So Casey's like, yeah, go ahead, how's the fun.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
Do you think there's an actress that tissue would not
be okay with you having a sex scene with.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
I'm sure there are several actresses that Cassey would be like, listen,
we need to have a conversation about this. It's not
the it's not that I don't want you to work.
It's just that I don't want you to work too
hard in some of these scenes. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Right? I hear you? Well, I never saw your sex scene,
but I would like to.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
I have a lot of sex scenes. I have sex
scenes on scrubs.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
No, but I the L word one was heated, right,
didn't you show ass?

Speaker 2 (03:38):
I didn't show ass.

Speaker 5 (03:39):
No.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
Have you showed ass in a sex scene?

Speaker 2 (03:42):
No, I've showed ass in a movie before.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Never movie for fans that might want to see it,
And Homie Pimoni, Oh holy money? And how far into
the movie do you know the exact I don't.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
At some point I know I mooned someone in the
hospital and it caused is them to drop all of
a tray full of of of what are those knives
and scalps, scalpels and the things that open up the
ship the clamps?

Speaker 1 (04:15):
The fake doctor. You should know what these terms are
you It's a protractor, it's fourceps four steps or maybe
a retractor, not a protractor. Factor is the math thing?

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (04:30):
The math thing?

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Donald, Yeah, I'm sure that was on the trade too.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
But for fans of the podcast that would like to
see your ass, they can watch Homies Pomonium. Maybe just
fast forward.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
It's not a good ass. At the time, I wasn't
really doing squats yet. This is before this is a
to remember the Titans, but before kick ass, and so
I mean kick ass. I had grown man ass. You
know what grown man asses?

Speaker 1 (04:53):
No, what's grown man?

Speaker 2 (04:55):
You've got grown man ass. Now that's when you like,
you're working out at a a grown age and your
ass is probably hard at some somewhere inside the mush,
but it's it's it's still firm. It's not it's like
the fat has molded because the muscle is telling you
know what I mean, you got nice ass, that grown

(05:16):
man ass. It hasn't turned into a sack of nickels yet.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
Well, nothing's a sack of nickels. If you do squats
and you do all the things, that's grown man ass.
I've been doing squats.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
I did squats for a little bit. That shit burned.
It doesn't burns. It freaking it freaking It's like a
Charlie horse to the butt cheeks, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (05:39):
You know, doing legs is not fun because it hurts,
and then.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
You gotta get it done. Let me turn, let me.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
Everybody's recording, right, Dane, nobody's recording. You left the room, Daniel,
and we had to record. Yeah, well I had to
handle something.

Speaker 5 (05:56):
He was making sure.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
I guess are ready, you know you know what I
felt when you came back in the room, Dan, I
felt this.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
Good?

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Oh my gosh, how you doing, Donald Faison?

Speaker 2 (06:12):
Good? You know my show got canceled. My show got canceled,
God canceled, NBC? Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
Do you want to talk about it?

Speaker 2 (06:21):
I do. Let's talk about it.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
Yeah, you had a great time. I don't understand why
I got canceled because the ratings were hot, were so hot.
You told me that that has to do with the streaming.
The streaming numbers weren't.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
I don't know, man, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
What do they tell you? What do they tell you?

Speaker 2 (06:40):
I don't know anything anymore. That's just one of those things, man,
where we're not.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
You know, how do you feel?

Speaker 6 (06:47):
You know?

Speaker 1 (06:48):
The shitty thing about having a show cancels. You don't
get a chance to say goodbye to everybody. You don't
get a chance that it's like, you know, you just
everyone thinks they're coming back.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
Yeah, that's kind of fucked up too, Like we waited
till the end, which is great. I guess. No news
is always good news, so you always have hope. And
I appreciate the feeling of hope and stuff like that.
That this had an opportunity. But still, man, it was
fun to work with these two Abigail and and John.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
And did you check in with them when you found out?

Speaker 2 (07:16):
Yeah, you know, there's always a long shot of somebody
else picking it up, or you know, there's all of
these things. But you know, I didn't. I wanted to
go back to work and work with them because I
had a lot of fun. And you know, you learned
from great you know, performers, and I learned a lot
from John Cryer.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
And well, it's so confusing, you know, because you you
you had really really great numbers. And I guess what
you're saying is that they told you that even though
you had great numbers live on on.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
NBC, it's about streaming, man, It's.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
About how many people we are watching it on what
is peacock peacock?

Speaker 2 (07:52):
Yeah, you know that's the that listen as much as
as much as we want to say network television, and
it's important nobody's really watching it anymore. Man. Numbers used
to be like this is one hundred.

Speaker 7 (08:06):
Man.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
Numbers used to be like, you know, a twenty seven
If you had twenty seven million people watching your show,
you're a successful show. And if you had the numbers
that people have now, if Scrubs did the numbers that
the that the TV audiences watched now, it would have
never made it on television.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
Yeah, it's just not how people consume television anymore, it
is it. They go, all right, I like that show,
that new Donald Faison John Cryer show. I don't need
to watch it with commercials. I'll just watch it the
next day without commercials. And I can you know, I
can watch I can pause that, I can do. You know,
That's just how people consume media.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
Now, right. And if you and if it's not your
cup of tea, and the streaming numbers aren't the numbers
that you know, the networks which are now streaming services,
If it's not what they want, then that's what it is.
And I don't think we did what we wanted what
they wanted. We did great. I know we did good
on television. When you looked at the overnights in the
eighteen to forty nine, it was really surprising all of

(09:06):
you guys who did watch the fans of the show.

Speaker 5 (09:08):
You.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
I really appreciate you tuning in. It's really nice, man,
like straight up man, it was great to have a
place to perform for people again, and there was a
core group of people and you know, you know, it's
just it's one of those things where it's like, shit, man,
I don't want it to end, and it ended, and
now it's like, all right, well.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
Do you want to know what the blessing in disguise is?

Speaker 2 (09:31):
What's the blessing in disguise?

Speaker 1 (09:33):
If we were to do some form of a Scrubs reboot,
there's a world where if this was a hit show,
you wouldn't have been available to do the Scrubs rebook.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
Yeah, but there's also a world where I could have
done both and got both checks. I'm greedy, you know
what I mean. When it comes to shit like that,
Let's keep it one hundred like that's one, you know,
one of the dopest things I remember before I ever
was I mean, I had acted professionally, but I thought
it was so cool that Michael J. Foix did Back
to the Future and family ties at the same time,

(10:03):
I thought that was one of the coolest things I'd
ever heard in my life because it's unheard of, and
I knew this before I was even in the game
as a freaking act, a big time actor. I'm not
a big time please Danil, don't cut that.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
But anyway, Donald, I love you calling yourself a big
time actor.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
I thought that was the coolest thing I had ever
saw heard of in my life. He's doing a movie
and a TV show at the same time.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
All right, But in reality, I'm just trying to cheer
you up. In reality, you know, I don't know that
that it would have been workoutable. So I'm just trying
to say, like, maybe, in the grand scheme of things,
even though you had a good experience, it's a blessing
in disguise because now if a Scrubbs rebound happens, you'll
be available and not tied up on an NBC sitcom.
We don't have to pretend you're dead. Yeah, we don't

(10:53):
have to be like, oh, it's too bad Turk tied anyway,
Hey Elliott, we got to get out of the way.
We got to get out of the way real quick,
because they can't get the audience sad. We can be like, oh, man,
Turk's funeral was crazy, how are you babe?

Speaker 2 (11:09):
That's how it would be too. It would be just
like that. I don't think the audience would be able
to take that shit.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
They'd be like, what the hell, I'm furious. No, the
audience wants turk the audience.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
The audience wants Turk and JD. It's not just Turk.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
They want they want jdus JD and Turk and JD.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
They want JD and no, they want Turk and Turk
and JD.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
Turkey JD. Look, it's Turk and Turk and JD.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
Fucked up. Man.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
I saw Billy Joel at MSG last night.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
Oh how was that?

Speaker 1 (11:46):
It was incredible?

Speaker 8 (11:47):
Man.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
It was his birthday, his seventy fifth birthday. Wow, seventy
five Wow. And it was this one hundred and forty
eighth show at MSG. What and he's stopping at one fifty?

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Did he do Don't Go Change?

Speaker 1 (12:02):
He did every hit you want to hear, except Captain Jack.
I really don't know why I didn't do Captain Jack. Billy,
if you're listening, I know you're a major fan of
the podcast.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
Did he do WHOA for the longest time?

Speaker 1 (12:18):
No, he didn't do it.

Speaker 4 (12:18):
Oh fuck, I had It's amazing.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
Yeah he did Vienna. Yeah, it's funny what he said
about Vienna. He was like, he was like, this song
was never a hit, but people seem to really love it.
So here is and he played Vienna, which I know
that went crazy.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
Imagine he did do New York State of Mind.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
Well, yeah, and actually it's funny. He goes, you know,
I'm moving to Florida, and whole MSG starts booing, and
he goes, he goes, I'm seventy five years old. This
is what people from New York and Long Island do.
We moved down to Florida. He goes, I'm sorry, I
still have a house here.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
That's funny.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
But it was funny, and then so so that he
was saying that whole anecdote, and then he just then
without like stopping, he went into New York state of Mind.

Speaker 4 (13:04):
It was aw so folks like to get away. Yeah,
take a holiday copper flight to Miami Beach.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
You remember when I Am hosted SNL. That was my
That was my opening monologue. Is that I sang New
Jersey state of Mind?

Speaker 2 (13:26):
Oh wow, I'm in the New Jersey state of Mind.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Yeah you can. You can probably find on the interwebs
if you like that. All right, we have a very
special show today. Carrie Basha and Eliza Cooper here, Daniel,
have you figured out all the tech. Is this gonna
be like Sarah Chalker? Do they know what they're doing?
They're both ready to go. Count of said baby girl
five six.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
Six say stories.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
Made about a bunch of.

Speaker 4 (14:01):
A storm.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
So YadA, yadare get that thunderous ladies in Jena, just
give it up for Carrie Shliza.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
I wonder.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
Yelling you're gonna scare Carrie Bouchet away with that yelling.

Speaker 8 (14:34):
Jesus, I couldn't be more scared.

Speaker 9 (14:37):
So do what you will.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
Wow, Carrie Bochet hasn't aged an hour? Donald, not even
a little bit.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
Why's not even a smidget of it of a minute? Carry?

Speaker 1 (14:48):
I know we're older than you, but how come we
aged and you didn't at all?

Speaker 9 (14:52):
You're not that much older than me.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
Oh my god. Carry you look like a porcelain doll.

Speaker 9 (14:57):
Goodness, thank you, Daniel.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
I'm not sure. Just message so we'll see where Okay
we lost Eliza. Carry. This is Daniel and.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Joel waiting and no damn like her character? What up? Carry?

Speaker 8 (15:16):
Nice to meet you, my god, what's been going on
for the last fifteen years?

Speaker 1 (15:20):
I can't think when the last time we saw you was.
I feel like it was when the show ended, or att.

Speaker 9 (15:28):
Yeah, hi, hello, oh boy.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
Oh boy, gosh, you don't look any different either. We
need to get their face cream.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
I know whatever they are doing is working, and I
need to get it man ship. Hi guys looked like great.

Speaker 5 (15:50):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
Have you guys seen each other in the intervening years?

Speaker 5 (15:54):
No, No, it was allowed, it was too loud.

Speaker 9 (15:58):
No, it's perfect, very decisive. No, we haven't seen each other.
Where do you live, Kerry? New York City?

Speaker 5 (16:06):
Baby?

Speaker 9 (16:07):
Where do you live?

Speaker 5 (16:08):
I live in a different world.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
Are you? Are you?

Speaker 7 (16:13):
I live like way down, like two hours from l A.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
Oh, how did last time?

Speaker 8 (16:18):
Much?

Speaker 2 (16:18):
Are you? We were in Malibu? Where are you?

Speaker 5 (16:20):
Yeah? I was in Malibu. Then I was in Brentwood.

Speaker 7 (16:22):
Then I was into Panga, then I moved here to
like past Anaheim.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
You passed the Empire up in the up in the hills.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
Well, we're so glad to have you, guys. We've been
talking about you and the show, and we've been daydreaming
about having you on because we haven't had any guests
from season nine. Donald and I have limited knowledge of
season nine because I left and Donald was barely there
because he was so high, and.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
I still smoke a lot of Yeah, so we remember
a lot of having the conversation with me like, maybe
don't smoke so much weed because they say so much better. Yeah.
And I looked at you and I said, yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
I've said to smoke. I've said that to you so
many times. Donald, maybe don't smoke so much weed.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
Yeah, okay, I'll be right back. I'm going to smoke
some more.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
We when you guys look back on your time on
Scrub season nine, because again, because we don't really know,
and it was such a different experience for us because
the show was ending well for me, it wasn't. Donald
was sort of tiptoeing out. Was it a good experience?

Speaker 2 (17:34):
Did you?

Speaker 1 (17:34):
Did you have fun?

Speaker 9 (17:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (17:36):
I would love to be so honest with you. We'll
see how that goes. But I am terrified of you guys.
You guys scare the ship out of me. And you
scared the ship out of me then, really, Oh my god, you.

Speaker 9 (17:52):
Guys are so scary.

Speaker 5 (17:53):
You know why.

Speaker 9 (17:54):
It's because you.

Speaker 8 (17:56):
Guys are so funny, and that is language I simply
do not speak nice. You're very all you guys are.
You guys are like true comedians and I learned so
much while I was on that show. But like when
I took improv class in college, the main thing I
took away from it was they were like always like

(18:18):
always be honest with like with where you are. If
your responses is your character, are how you're honestly feeling,
then you can't go wrong. So basically all of my
improv characters would just end up crying.

Speaker 9 (18:29):
They're just crash because.

Speaker 8 (18:30):
That's always how I felt when I had to do improv,
And truly, I feel like that was really helpful to
play Lucy in season nine. I feel like her thing
was like she was so pure and wholesome, and when
she ran into the realities of life and like being

(18:51):
a doctor, it was like too overwhelming. And if she
was ever funny, it was because of this like conflict
between her like purity and you know this like sort
of like rough world that wasn't ready for her.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
I'm gonna tell you something right now, Lucy wasn't that pure.
Hold on now, Hold.

Speaker 8 (19:14):
Just she may have had an unwholesome love of horses.
But other than that, if.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
You've watched the show since you've been on it, but
Lucy was yo, Lucy did some crazy. There's bachelor bachelorette
party ship. There's like a watch of things that this
young lady Cole had done. Lucy, this this wholesome ship
was like, yeah, she loves horses, but yo, she talks
on the phone to her mom or no to her
dad while having sex with her boyfriend. Lucy wasn't wholesome.

(19:45):
Lucy wasn't wholesome.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
Every every episode, every episode opens with Lucy and Cole
having sex, or Lucy and Cole talking about having sex.

Speaker 8 (19:56):
Well, okay, so just having sex doesn't mean you unwholesome.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
No, No, that's true.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
That's true.

Speaker 9 (20:04):
I'm not gonna no judgment Donald floodshaming.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
We noticed that we noticed that there was some mimicking
of couples as they moved into nine, Like, you know,
because Elliott was sort of wacky with her sexuality and
and and then of course Cox and Jordan were always
so mean to each other, kind of like Denise and
Drew kind of took over that.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
One thing.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
That's one thing we saw as we've been watching this
is that they were sort of trying to echo some
of the some of the couplings that had worked in
the first incarnation.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Well, also Elijah, you were around season seven, eight and nine, right,
and so right.

Speaker 5 (20:47):
You didn't I think, yes, yes, yes, yes, yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
And so you're coming into this as the new and
you were reoccurring, and now you're the one of the
stars of the show and one that story's going to
follow that. How did that? How was that for you?

Speaker 7 (21:04):
It felt like it just all happened so quickly, like
I didn't even get a chance to like process it
in the moment because it was like, okay and reoccurring,
now you're now you're a series regular, and then it
was just so everything was so quick. I felt like
I didn't process the entire experience until, like, I don't know,
like a year ago, yeah, because there was so much

(21:25):
about I don't know. I don't know if I was
scared of you, guys.

Speaker 5 (21:28):
I was just kind of.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
Like, nah, there's no way you were.

Speaker 5 (21:31):
I was observing.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
I was observe.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
I thought you were very tough even when I met you,
like when you know, when you first joined us, if
you were scared of us or intimidated by us, you
hit it well. I thought that you like jumped right in,
and especially when you joined us whatever it was season.

Speaker 7 (21:46):
Seven, Yeah, no, I don't think it didn't know, there
wasn't a it wasn't a fear. But then again, I
feel like I mask most fear with being really tough
when really I'm just you know, crumbling inside.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
But was this your first big was joining scrubs? Your
first big job?

Speaker 5 (22:01):
It was my second big job.

Speaker 7 (22:02):
The first one was an HBO show that didn't see
the light of day because of a million reasons. And
then then there was and I went straight into Scrubs.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
And then you've been working. You worked like crazy, then
you really like yeah, took off and.

Speaker 7 (22:17):
Then there was a strike and then it didn't work.

Speaker 9 (22:21):
Now I'm just drawing.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Rabbits, beautiful rabbits. Are you making like a sequel to
Watership Down?

Speaker 5 (22:28):
No, it's just I don't they all face the same direction?

Speaker 2 (22:31):
Mild I think they do.

Speaker 7 (22:32):
Yeah, I have a it's a whole thing. It's just
it's a meditation anyway. But no, I there was a
moment I remember, Zach, when I don't know, you said
something to me like the first day I was there,
and I don't think I've ever been more like and
so then from from that point forward, I was like, Okay,
just don't fuck up and.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
What did I say.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
I hope, I hope you wasn't like, don't fuck up.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
I hope it wasn't like, don't fuck up. The whole
thing's riding on you.

Speaker 5 (23:00):
No.

Speaker 9 (23:00):
I don't remember what it was that you said.

Speaker 7 (23:02):
I mean, there was a few things that you said,
but then I don't remember that specific one.

Speaker 5 (23:07):
But I remember it being a moment.

Speaker 7 (23:08):
Of like, oh, okay, I've got to keep my shit together.

Speaker 5 (23:11):
And then I was just you know.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
That was all I was.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
I was. I think I was trying to imagine. I
was trying to be inspiring, and I knew that they
were going to build the show around you and a
couple others, and I think I was probably trying to
give advice because they were going to bring in Carrie,
and but you were, like, you were doing so well
in the original in seven and eight that I knew
that they were going to be you were going to
be one of the people they built it around. So
I was probably trying to like be you were, and

(23:37):
you were giving you advice. I hate to think that
it was that it's scary.

Speaker 7 (23:41):
No, no, no, no, it was. I think it was.
It was just it was I learned more on that show. Like,
I feel like that was more than getting my BFA and.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
Acting on that show.

Speaker 7 (23:52):
And yeah, I like, I remember one time that Bill
Lawrence grabbed the back of some sides and was like, oh,
you know, we need a connecting scene that isn't in
the street. You just like wrote it on the back
of some sides and we had to go shoot it
in like twenty minutes, and I was like.

Speaker 5 (24:07):
Oh okay, oh okay.

Speaker 7 (24:08):
And then any show after that just felt like, Oh,
I can do anything, I can do that.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
Yeah, I remember, I remember the day Bill came down.
He came from the writer's room. This is season seven.
He walks into the writers he walks in from the
writer's room. You and the rest of the cats are
standing there with me, you guys and Zach and we're
all just hanging out, chilling and uh. And Bill comes
in and he starts giving everybody so this is what's

(24:34):
gonna happen. And we're all clicked up like in our
own little clicks. And when he says this is what's
gonna happen, it shifted the dynamic of our little group,
like everybody kind of split off, right. So I remember
when Bill came in and he was like, all right,
so Eliza Lee, you two are gonna date. And you
guys were on two separate sides of the room, and

(24:56):
then all of a sudden, it was like okay, and
then like all of the all the story right there
was being unfolded in front of us, and it was like,
all right, so you guys gotta let's jump into what
what the show is? I just remember, I remember that
is something Bill would do. You would think it's something
completely different, and then all of a sudden, out of nowhere,
you get a page and you're like, wait a second,

(25:17):
where the fuck did this come from?

Speaker 7 (25:19):
Right?

Speaker 2 (25:19):
For me, it's fine because I don't read the script anyway,
but I can't imagine for for actors, you know, for actors.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
Actors that do take the time to read the script intimidating.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
It must it must be very intimidating.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
Yeah, and carry this was extremely hard for you, obviously,
because you know, audiences had so had, you know, eight
years of falling in love with JD. And there was
a big ask to step into those shoes. I don't
mean me, I mean the character people were like, okay,
it's a young girl now, like you know, with their
arms crossed, like let's see. You know, I feel I feel,

(25:53):
as we've been watching it back, like what an intimidating
position to step into.

Speaker 9 (25:59):
Did you that at the time, Yes, definitely.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (26:05):
It was one of my first acting jobs. Also, I
you know, grew up doing theater and that's where most
of my experience had been.

Speaker 5 (26:13):
And so.

Speaker 8 (26:16):
Like, aside from the pressures of coming into this like
very big, popular show and with some enormous shoes to fill,
there was also like I was still learning how like
the camera stuff worked. I remember so Mike Spiller. Spiller
directed this episode we're talking about our two lives, and

(26:37):
I don't think it was in this episode, but there
was one episode where he's like, okay, cool, could we
like have you like run in here, and like, I
don't know, can you like slide across this desk?

Speaker 9 (26:45):
And then like crouch down. I was like, I don't know,
let's give it a try.

Speaker 8 (26:47):
So I do it, and like a couple of pencils
goes flying and it looks awesome, and I'm like crouching
down and he's like great, awesome, and I'm like.

Speaker 9 (26:56):
Yeah, double high five and he goes and.

Speaker 8 (27:00):
He goes, yeah, that's not what I was doing. I
wasn't doing it, and I was like.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
Sorry, oh, he was holding up his he was holding
up his hands the shots.

Speaker 9 (27:12):
Like that camera thing.

Speaker 8 (27:14):
And then everybody made fun of him because they were like,
that's a cheesy thing to do.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
It's not a cheesy thing to do.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
I'm sorry, you fucking directors. I love you, guys. Put
all of this ship with the fucking the two fingers,
like this is the couch, so we're gonna hold it
here and do the two and then we're gonna chomp
it down and then I wanna do some ship like
this and this ship get the fuck out of here,
get the fuck on it.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
When I say something in defense of the DDA, yes,
you're not doing it to look cool in the picture.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
Plenty things you're doing it to look cool.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
You're doing it to show the crew where you want
the map box, where you want to put the camera.
And it's very It helps tell the crew like I
think it's here, and then we're gonna come over here
and do this and then we have this this that.
It's just a way to communicate easily with the crew.
It's not like for show.

Speaker 8 (28:02):
But listen, also, if somebody enthusiastically gives you a double
high five.

Speaker 9 (28:07):
I think you just have to accept it.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
That was cringe on Mike Spiller's part. Spiller could have
just said looking, hell yeah, high five right.

Speaker 8 (28:15):
I ran into him years later at a party and
I retold him that story, hoping that with the intervening
time he had come to see the humor in it.

Speaker 9 (28:24):
And he did not.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
Oh my god, he did a sweetheart. He's a sweetheart. Yeah,
so sweet had we've had him on, right, guys, we
had him back on, yeah, I said, saw him recently.
All right, we should take a break and then talk
all about this crazy fucking episode that I just don't understand.
This episode was like written in nineteen seventy nine. Turk
has never seen a lesbian. I'm really confused. I'm really

(28:47):
confused by this episode. Joelle will help steer us through
the conversation of how Turk is excited to meet his
first lesbian.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
I love the fact that Denise says, how queer though
I be right back.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
We'll be back, and we're back. Yes, they're all fake.
The commercials here, we don't do for real. Sarah Chalk
was really flustered by that. She thought that we were
going to sit here for the length of two minutes
and just chat kind of like it was like it

(29:26):
was a live talk show. Like she thought, like, okay,
be while we're in break, what should we talk about?
All right? Our tchoe lies. Thank you ladies for joining us.
Lucy's mom doesn't like Cole. We learned again the show
always kind of starts off. One thing we've learned from
watching the show. You guys probably haven't seen them all

(29:48):
in a while, but the show does seem to usually
start off with Lucy and Cole and some conversation about
their sex life, which we learned is very, very very
important to both of them.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
You've got they have, they have a very they communicate well,
they are very very.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
But you know what's funny is that, Carrie, there's nothing
redeemable about Dave's character at all. I mean so redeemable.
So far. He's very handsome, but so far he's just
an idiot.

Speaker 9 (30:22):
Well, by the.

Speaker 8 (30:23):
End of this episode, I think he displays some admirable rights.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
That's his first time.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
Yeah, maybe this is the beginning of his arc where
he changes. Because we've been waiting for them to be
something about Dave Franco's character. That was like, what is
to do?

Speaker 8 (30:39):
But do you find him unappealing all of his idiocy?
He's hilarious.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
We the we the audience find him charming as hell.
But it's hard we have.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
The audience find him as he's the nemesis right now.
Everybody that we spoke to is like, he's the neo
Patrick Harris character from the What's That show? How I
Met Your Mother? He's that character. He's the one that
everybody's like, I fucking hate this guy, Dude, I fucking
hate him. There's nothing redeemable about him.

Speaker 8 (31:11):
The audience or the characters.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
The audience is saying this. They're like, I love Dave
Franco and he's playing this character so well that I
fucking hate Cole. That's what we learned.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
Yeah, I think Carry disagrees. Carrie thinks that the audience.

Speaker 8 (31:27):
Really watch I watch, I go watch Dave Franco do
that cold thing all day long. I think it's the
funniest fucking ship in the whole world.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
You know what I said, the exact same thing, And.

Speaker 8 (31:39):
What I love about it is that I don't I
don't need to find him redeemable. I don't need him
to be like likable, I mean me personally. I just
think it's so hilarious.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
Yeah, he's definitely very good at playing that guy. Denise
really really is upset that that drew that he loves her.

Speaker 5 (32:01):
Yeah, that was that was really rough for her. Yeah,
I remember how rough that was for her.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
Really threw her.

Speaker 7 (32:08):
I feel like there was so much that Denise had
an unpacked in her life, just so much she needed
to go on a fucking pilgrimage.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
Well, the two of the two of them, Like, it's
like he went for a walk about and came back thinking,
you know what, I'm just a fucked up person, and
Denise is like, yeah, you know what, but it kind
of turns me on, Yeah, because I'm fucked up too.

Speaker 7 (32:31):
But she likes broken she likes broken men, so she
she was like, yeah, okay, he's got.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
Some art, feels betrayed that he's found love for her
and now feels super angry about it.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (32:43):
Yeah, again she's got There's not enough therapy in the
world for Denise. She needs like ayahuasca, that's.

Speaker 5 (32:51):
Actually keemy therapy.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
Where did I just hear this? Is this something that
was just on the show.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
No it's very popular in the culture. Right now, is
keymine apiece all you're thinking about.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
I don't know what kem is that the K hole.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
One can go into a K hole. But drugs like
ketymine are being used. They're finding it helpful for people
with depression and PTSD and the like. You know, done
with a doctor under supervision. The right dosage is people
are getting really good results from from from using it
in a clinical setting.

Speaker 8 (33:22):
There's a great book Michael Polland wrote called how to
Change Your Mind.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
Yes, there you go, audience, if you're interested, how to
change your mind, and.

Speaker 9 (33:29):
It's go or just go to Peru and.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
Do as doctors. Doctors we say, do it under clinical.

Speaker 9 (33:41):
Supervision please, or just lick a toad, Lick any.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
Toad, see what happens to give it to you.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
Is this true?

Speaker 9 (33:52):
No?

Speaker 8 (33:52):
No, there's like a like a secretion of a particular
toad that you like, cook down.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
And you know that you can elect certain toads and
you trip out.

Speaker 7 (34:01):
No, I thought could go Donald, So outside, go outside, gonna.

Speaker 8 (34:09):
Smoke some more weed, find a toad, then find the toad.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
All right, So Denise doesn't want to hear it. Okay,
Now this is crazy. Let's just go into that.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
Let me get my fucking note. Ship.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
Oh it's about time on the show.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
A free style in this ship, Yo, Cole can read
Lucy like the back of a DVD cover, meaning that
let's go back. So this is very important for that.
Gotta laugh, okay, because what the fuck is a DVD?

Speaker 1 (34:38):
Well, back in the day there were DVDs. And and
then he says that she has very clear tells. When
she bites her hair, she's lying when she addressed her
brass trap. What's that one.

Speaker 9 (34:51):
I'm about to yell at him.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
Yeah, she's about to yell at him. What is that
to do with the back of a DVD cover? I'm
not sure.

Speaker 8 (34:58):
I think the stint of Cole's reading ability and interest.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
Book got it, Kerrie.

Speaker 7 (35:08):
I was impressed by the the I don't know why
I was impressed by the broad strap adjustment, because I
feel like if that had been me having to do that.

Speaker 5 (35:15):
I would have liked been like, wait, what's the.

Speaker 9 (35:17):
Best way to do that? And you just did it
so it was so natural. Thank you so much.

Speaker 5 (35:22):
I had a real moment of like, huh, she.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
Just could work acting school, yea at Northwestern.

Speaker 8 (35:31):
I was also a mime, so I maybe wasn't even
wearing a bra I'm such an accomplished mine out mime
out were you a I was a semi professional mime.
I was in the mime company in Northwestern and Zach,
I don't know if you're aware, but it was extremely cool.

(35:54):
It was very cool to be a mime.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
I do remember this.

Speaker 5 (35:58):
You lead with this A lot lead there you do?

Speaker 2 (36:01):
Yes you died? Was once a mime.

Speaker 8 (36:04):
I feel it's noteworthy and it's really excellent acting training.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
Honestly, can you do some just can you pretend you're
in a box right now?

Speaker 8 (36:11):
No, dude, come on, I wish I could, but mime
is a serious art form. I cannot make jokes here.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
That's like saying to me, won't you I can't.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
Imagine what ad? What were you going to say? Carry?

Speaker 9 (36:28):
Do you animate things?

Speaker 1 (36:30):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (36:31):
I don't know what you're talking about.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
Donald's passion is stop motion animation, and you can see
in the back of his screen there he's got lots
of tools for stop animation.

Speaker 9 (36:41):
Really, that's so cool.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
Yeah, it looks like he's doing something in the cockpit.

Speaker 5 (36:46):
I knew this. I mean, he leads with that a
lot too.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
If you follow Donald on Instagram, it's all he posts
is his work.

Speaker 8 (36:54):
Well, stop motion animation, that's so exciting. I made a
little stop motion and this was part of the set
from my stop motion.

Speaker 9 (37:03):
It's just a little house.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
What stop motion animation did you do?

Speaker 9 (37:06):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (37:06):
It's just no. No, it's like a little short film
I made. I'll send it to you later.

Speaker 5 (37:10):
Cute.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
You guys can bond over that.

Speaker 9 (37:13):
I would love to, dude.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
Cole's mom is a bounty hunter. Comes from a long
line of bounty hunters. I laughed at that.

Speaker 9 (37:21):
I did too, and we just really they really glossed
over that one. I would have liked a little more
backstory on that.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
Yeah, I did not know this. Yeah, right next year.
Let's take a break.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
We'll be right back after these fine words. What do
you think the deal was with with Turk being so
excited to meet a lesbian?

Speaker 2 (37:52):
So? So, I think Turk is married, right, and you're married.
Your sex life is usually what your wife decides the
sex life is going to be, you know what I mean?
Like so or your spouse is, at least in my situation, Okay,

(38:13):
what my let me let's put it that way.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
Let's speak for yourself. I think it'll be important in
this conversation.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
And I think I think I think that's what's going
on with Turk and Turk.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
Didn't you feel it was very dated? Didn't you feel
it was very dated to be like, oh my god,
I think it felt very dated. It felt like it's
a shitcomb from the eighties, to be like the lesbianism
was so taboo and that these these grown ass men
were so excited.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
To me, I didn't look at it. I didn't look
at it as it was so taboo. I think I
was looking at it as these two were turned on.
And because of their lifestyle, they don't see it all
the time. So when they did see it, they were
like this and and and they're both hot. Fuck yeah,
let's let's this is the best day of my life.
I'm in the hospital looking at dead people, but now
I got two hot lesbians in here.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
I just felt like I to me, it felt very
dated for what was the year nine ish oh nine?
It felt like so like, Joelle, what are your thoughts on?
Were you surprised that it was so that's what?

Speaker 5 (39:14):
I'm gay and all my friends are gay, so I'm like,
what's happening here.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
This is very strange.

Speaker 3 (39:18):
I didn't understand it definitely felt I mean, the L
words on TV at this point, you've got queer eye,
Like there's gay people everywhere on TV at this point,
and this is a year before PROP eight, So it's
just like, as a timing wise, situation is just a
little bit strange.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
I was just surprised they were so giddy to meet
a lesbian couple, Like, like, it just felt like surprising
to me for two thousand and nine or whatever. It was, Ladies,
your thoughts, I yeah.

Speaker 7 (39:48):
It was a little I mean, it was strikes me
as unprofessional.

Speaker 9 (39:53):
Really, I think it was kind of that's more.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
That's more it. Yeah, But I mean, these guys aren't
These guys are never professional on this show. We've learned
that the things that they do are very unprofessional.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
But well, Tom, that's more it.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
It's it's the fact that these guys are so unprofessional
about it, not that that they're giddy.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
Todd literally doesn't know what to say, and he's salting,
I'm doctor lesbian. I'll be your lesbian.

Speaker 7 (40:20):
I threw out a queer in there, Yeah you did.

Speaker 9 (40:24):
He's just off the cuff, off the cuff.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
That's queer.

Speaker 6 (40:28):
That's queer, or I called him a queer for kissing you,
for kissing me Lucy's ring so Cox finds a cheat sheet.
Here's the big plot point. Cox finds a cheat sheet
and the all the guys, it's like the breakfast Club.
They're all being forced to stay in the classroom until
the truth comes out. And and that's didn't I sort

(40:52):
of thought of the breakfast club.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
When when that's perfect analogy.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
Yeah, all the different types of people. Nikki Whelans really
got screwed. She didn't really get much of a part.
I don't remember that. She doesn't have much to say ever,
and she's so.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
Good when she does speak. It's really shocking.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
Yeah, she's funny, and they just kind of throw her
that she's dating Trang who that's his name, I believe right.

Speaker 5 (41:14):
I don't know if I ever knew his name.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
That's It's hilarious, bro babe, you're smothering me. That was
very funny.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
Come on, that's funny. And we learned that he's something
about he absorbed his sister in the uterus.

Speaker 5 (41:30):
Yep, yep, I caught that too.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
Okay, so uh, and Lucy's ring tone is Charles in Charge.
You guys probably don't even know what Charles in Charge
is because it's before your time, but.

Speaker 9 (41:44):
I remember I definitely know what it is.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
Okay, they know.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
Everybody know Nicole.

Speaker 9 (41:52):
I was just saying Toole Egert. I was like, she's
she's so pretty.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
Oh my god. I had the biggest crush. I'm sure
I've mentioned this on the podcast, but Nicole was my
was my biggest childhood cross.

Speaker 5 (42:02):
I wanted to look like her. I wanted to look
like her.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
Yeah, I'm sure that every I don't know. I just
she was. She was the prettiest ever Nicole Eggert. She
was almost on the show, I think, but she no. Yeah,
I remember them talking to her about doing a cameo really. Yeah.
It may have been the part that Amy Smart took

(42:27):
or something I forgot. It was one of those sort
of love interests for JD characters.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
Drew's married plot twist.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
Drew is mad about that.

Speaker 5 (42:36):
Yeah, and when I watched that.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
For it, I didn't know. Look, Okay, So my favorite
couple on the show is Drew and Denise. Maybe it's
because they remind me of of Cox and Jordan so much.
I just like the dynamic that they have the the
fuck you fuck you, I love you, I love you.
I like that. I like that type of That's kind
of like how me and my wife are. We give

(42:58):
each other shit, but it's all in love, right. What
was it like working with Mike?

Speaker 1 (43:03):
Yeah, you guys had a really good chemistry.

Speaker 7 (43:05):
I know, he was fun, he was great. He was
he was very professional, and I think we.

Speaker 9 (43:12):
Just we just got it.

Speaker 7 (43:13):
We got what our what our thing was, and we
both just fell into it really easily, and he was
great to work with.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
Was did you guys all socialize outside because Donald?

Speaker 2 (43:24):
Yeah, they did, because they didn't invite my end.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
Donald Donald inted me if you did, stop yelling. You're yelling,
Donald farbaring some emotions about not being invited to some
of the young cast members get togethers.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
And I'm not that much older than y'all.

Speaker 9 (43:41):
I don't think.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
I think it's guy. I called him Michael Moseley, but.

Speaker 8 (43:44):
I remember one I remember one party Mike Moseley through,
like a Christmas party, and I met his dog and
he told me that he had aspirations of training his
dog to be a movie dog. And then years later
I ran into him and I was like, how's your dog,
and he was like, oh, oh yeah, I got to
show you this thing. And he showed me like a

(44:05):
short film he'd made where the dog is like playing
all the parts and the dog has like a little
kerchief and then and then the dog has like a
military cap and it barks, and then the subtitles are
like show me your papers, ma'am and then like it's
the dog in a kership. Are you are you my

(44:26):
You're my son, my child? And I was like, oh
my god, Mike, when you said you wanted your dog
to be a movie dog, this was not at all
when I.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
Was pictured, Wow, he did the work.

Speaker 5 (44:38):
He did.

Speaker 9 (44:40):
Yes, it's like a not tour. Uh.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
Well, we got to have Mike on and remind him
to bring his short film that maybe we can screen
a piece of it on the podcast.

Speaker 5 (44:50):
Just have the dog one available, but I got the dog.

Speaker 1 (44:59):
If Mike's not available, well book the Dog please, thank you,
thank you.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
Eliza.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
All right. So there's a moment where they're trying to
find out more about the woman who's sick and they
go to the Internet and we think it's going to
be like a JD moment, but Cox is like I'm
not like your friend Dorian, I don't roll like that.
So Turk has to go to the internet alone and
he finds out that the woman used to be heavy

(45:28):
and she doesn't want her girlfriend to see her like
that if she takes steroids. That's why she's resistant to
taking the steroids. And Turk is fascinated that the word,
the correct terminology is partner. This is another example. I mean,
I was like, this is so weird that this is
so that this is two thousand and nine. Turk's like, oh,
it's partner. Lucy confesses that she's the one who cheated,

(45:56):
probably because the pressure from her mom, who's really frushing
her to succeed.

Speaker 9 (46:05):
It's always the mother's fault, that's what I've learned.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
Yes, in this case, your mom. But but just like
the Breakfast Club kids, they've now all bonded and they
all stick together and they don't out Lucy. I was
hoping the letter, Yeah, when they write a letter, and
they should, they should end with Lucy with their hands up.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
In the air, like, hey, you guys have no idea
what the breakfast Club is? Do you have.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
You guys seen the Breakfast Club? Well, Carrie Touche is
looking like she's never even heard of the title.

Speaker 9 (46:41):
No, I just don't remember the ending.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
And then the episode ends to a great Alexi Murdoch
song All My Days, which is a beautiful song. That
was that was redeemable.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
Denise tells uh Drew she loves him.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
Yes, that's when the song kicks in.

Speaker 8 (46:58):
Yeah, she bad to cheat in med school.

Speaker 9 (47:01):
Wouldn't you get thrown out for that?

Speaker 1 (47:03):
Yes, I'm sure, but no one outs you.

Speaker 9 (47:05):
They protect so we all stick together.

Speaker 1 (47:08):
Yeah, because there was like it was your bonding moment.
I don't believe that that the other Maybe maybe Cole
would have, and maybe Mike Moseley's character would, but I
don't know why. The others were like, all right, we'll
retake the test for you. But they bonded. We all bonded.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
They needed characters to be in the room, so that's why.

Speaker 9 (47:29):
Yeah, it was a bottle episode. They had to make
it cheap, so they.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
Couldn't just be the three of them. It had they
had to add the two other ones and so right,
and then they kicked out and then they kick out
the authorities, so the authority is not witnessed to the admission.
Also let's take a break.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
We'll be right back after these fine words.

Speaker 9 (47:56):
Do we have to keep talking about the episode? Or
can I ask you guys a question anything?

Speaker 1 (48:00):
We can talk about whatever you want.

Speaker 8 (48:02):
You are Why are you doing this?

Speaker 1 (48:07):
Why are we doing a rewatch podcast of Scrubs? Yes,
it started a very funny question. It started the beginning
of the pandemic in twenty twenty and we were looking
for something to do that would be fun. We hadn't
watched the show in forever, and two women from the
Office had done one for the show the Office, and

(48:28):
it has become very popular. So Donald and I thought,
we can't do anything else. We're stuck in our homes.
This would be a fun thing to do.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
Kind of We had it going before the pandemic.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
That's true. That's true. It had been we had been
we had been approached about doing it before the pandemic,
and then we actually started the pandemic, and because the
pandemic we had nothing to do. We ended up doing
like two a week sometimes and it just became really
fun and became a way to check in and laugh
and tell stories sometimes about Scrubs, sometimes about anything and
everything else.

Speaker 2 (48:55):
And also it was around a time when like, you know,
first Bonders and everything like that were you know, really
on the front line with COVID and everything. And so
this is a show about first responders who were dealing
with you know, life and death situations. And it really
spoke to the medical community once again, which was great.

(49:16):
I mean, I don't know if you guys know this,
but uh, not necessarily season nine, but one through eight
is considered one of the most accurate forms of medical
television in the history of medical television anyway. And so
it really struck a chord with you know, people who
were in the streets with COVID, you know, dealing with

(49:39):
COVID at the time, and and it was, you know,
it was just it was it was a therapeutic for us.

Speaker 1 (49:46):
Yeah. And then on the side, something we never thought
would happen, It became super popular, and so we've just
kept doing it and had so much fun doing it.
And now we're almost done with watching the show, and
the show is going to change in be more about
other things and having guests on and interviewing people. But
now we're we've only got a handful of Scrubs episodes, like.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
A four or left or maybe three left some shit.

Speaker 8 (50:11):
Yeah, right, So in the process of rewatching this work
that you did that was like, I mean, life changing
for you, guys.

Speaker 9 (50:19):
This was like a huge part of your.

Speaker 8 (50:21):
Life professionally and personally. And it was like twenty years ago,
twenty five years ago.

Speaker 9 (50:27):
What are we talking about? Like a long time ago?

Speaker 1 (50:30):
Did you guys?

Speaker 5 (50:31):
Wow?

Speaker 8 (50:31):
Yeah? Did anything as you rewatch all of it? Did
anything surprise you? Did you like, learn anything interesting? Do
you have different thoughts and feelings now as you look
back at.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
Well, it was my first time ever watching the show.
I never watched the show before. Like, I'm still in
the process of watching the show for the first time
once season nine is over. I can honestly say I've
seen every episode of Scrubs. So there's that. But also
I realized how good of a show was. I took
it for granted, man, like keeping at one hundred with

(51:05):
you guys, I took this show for granted. I was.
I feel like I was barely there. I've told the
story before. I smoked a lot of weed doing the show,
you know what I mean. I was out at the club.
I was enjoying my youth at the time, and somehow
Bill Lawrence was able to write around all of my
you know, distractions and stuff and create this character that

(51:30):
people really respond to. And I'm grateful for that one.
So when I look back at it, I'm like, shit,
even though I was fucking up, you know, the fact
that I was able to portray because of you know
how great of a writer Bill is, but the fact
that I was able to do something like that that
people like is really awesome. But not just that, like,

(51:51):
you know, I got a best friend out of it. Like,
I look back at it now and I'm like, when
rewatching and I'm like, damn, I remember the day before
for this scene, what we did and who we were with,
and the fact that there's so many people still wanting
to talk about this, and the fact that there's so
many possibilities still. It really is like you said, it's

(52:16):
a it's a blessing. It's something that it's you know,
I did a bunch of things before this, but this
is this is the one thing that you know, it's
paid dividends in my life and in my bank account.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
For me, it's just very surreal. It's been a very
fun exercise to watch, you know, the you're acting from
one's acting from so long ago, and see how you
know there's again I didn't A lot of times Donald
and I watched these episodes, we don't remember doing them.
They're so long ago, you know, so to watch it
anew and fresh and go oh that was really funny

(52:53):
or oh gosh, that was bad. And a lot of times,
you know, watching all these episodes, you see when I
was I can see as an actor, when I was
phoning it in, when I wasn't present, when I wasn't good,
or I was too broad, or I was leaning into
the joke. And it's really, I think been educational for
me as an actor, going seeing you know, the arc

(53:14):
of when I am proud of all those stuff I
was doing, and when I feel like, oh, you just
were leaning into the turn, you were like phoning it in,
you were you weren't present, you know. I can just
see that stuff. Maybe just because my wearing my director hat,
I go, oh oh god, someone tell him to fucking
pull it back. You're you're joking the joke, you know.
But it's just been so fun to to see it

(53:36):
and to and to laugh at it. And there's sometimes
Donald and I are just genuinely cracking up at it.
And it's that's when it's really fun is when we
when we look back and go, I don't remember doing this,
but that was so funny. And so it's been a
really unique experience. I mean, I don't think many people
get a chance to do a little experiment like this.

Speaker 9 (53:54):
I don't think I watched any of it either.

Speaker 7 (53:56):
I mean I think I'd seen snippets, but to go
and watch it, I had a similar experience of like
I was cringing at my acting and I was cringing
it my hair and I hadn't had my eyebrows dialed
in yet.

Speaker 9 (54:08):
Like, there was a lot of things.

Speaker 7 (54:11):
There was a lot of things that I was like,
like I would not like looking at that. I was like,
oh my god, like I think I was. So it's
like I wasn't comfortable in myself yet. So I feel
like I was on top of a lot of things,
and it was they are moments, but it was like,
I mean, if I go back and watch anything from

(54:31):
way before, it's like, ooh, I have so much I
have a lot to say to me.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
I like you said, like you both I think have
said it was great boot camp for it was like
grad school. For me, it was like grad school. I
learned as a filmmaker and an actor. I learned so
much because the way how quickly you would shoot these episodes,
and and like you said, how quickly Bill would change things,
and the ability to just kind of just go, go go,

(54:57):
I think was a wonderful education.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
The experience served it served us all well. I feel
like onto our other projects and stuff like, I don't
you know, after doing Scrubs for so long, I feel
like I can do anything. Like everybody feels like that,
you know what I mean, what do I need to do?
You want me to do?

Speaker 3 (55:15):
What?

Speaker 2 (55:16):
Yeah? I think I can do that shit, man. Yeah,
because we had to do We've had to do so
many things on the.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
Show in the spirit of getting your reps in, you know,
we had We did so much. Yeah, particularly Donald and
I who did this for for nine years. We did
so much different stuff in such a short amount of time.
So I learned. It's funny. I just recently did a
guest spot on on a show and I walked on

(55:42):
the set and I realized, gosh, young me would have
been so intimidated. I would have been in my head.
I wouldn't have I would have given a half assed
performance because I was thinking, oh God, I don't know
these actors and I know this crew, and I went in.
There was such like a none of that fucking shit's
gonna matter. And in ten months when this airs, all
all that's going to matter is if I brought it
or not for the c And I really felt that

(56:03):
that was such an education in doing this show for
so long. You know, like these guest stars that come
on and they have one scene and they're amazing, and
they didn't know anyone, they didn't know the crew, they
didn't know all our inside jokes, but they came in
and they fucking crushed. And now we're watching it fifteen
years later and we're like, what a great actor, What
a good job.

Speaker 9 (56:25):
You're talking about all the different things we got to do.

Speaker 8 (56:28):
And my favorite part about the show is the like
genre play part of it. The you know, like we
were doing a medical show and I dressed up as
a nineteen seventies roller disco girl and Zach you were
a hypodermic.

Speaker 9 (56:47):
Needle on roller skids.

Speaker 8 (56:50):
We did like a full on like World War One
rifles and like piss helmets, like the like the Phantom
see Pops to me are one of the greatest things
about the show. My favorite show my like I just
comfort food rewatch all the time is Mash. And it's

(57:16):
so shocking to me to watch Mash and see how
much of that is in Scrubs. Also, they had a
whole episode of going into people's dreams.

Speaker 9 (57:28):
They had, like I mean.

Speaker 8 (57:30):
It was like a totally bonkers, crazy show. And they
were also really committed to like medical accuracy on that show,
which I also find. Yeah, and I think that's one
of my favorite things about Mash and about Scrubs is
the and all the comedy comes out of working in

(57:54):
a really like a high stakes life and death scenario
where with like the absurdity of having to grapple with
you know, mortality on a daily basis. And not for nothing.
I have a lot of doctor friends and they love Scrubs.

(58:14):
All my doctor friends tell me all the time that
Scrubs is the that is the show that is exactly
what it's like to.

Speaker 9 (58:22):
Be a doctor, for better or for worse.

Speaker 8 (58:25):
And I think that's pretty fucking cool.

Speaker 1 (58:29):
Well, you guys are so good on the show, you know.
Donald and I uh definitely have our thoughts on season nine.
It has and it's just just such a transition when
the whole writing staff changed and Bill was no longer involved,
and it definitely feels different. But I want to say
that time and time again we say how talented you
guys are and how intimidating it must have been to

(58:52):
like and yet now here's the new cast. I hope
you guys like them. I mean, that's that's really a
hard thing to step into. And I think you guys
did a really fantastic job.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
Eliza, you went on to work with Josh By so
right after this happy ending.

Speaker 7 (59:07):
Yeah, And I was just going to say, when we
were talking about the boot camp of it all, there's
no way I could have jumped into happy endings if
I hadn't done Scrubs first, because that was like rapid fire, crazy,
like I mean, it was. It was everybody's kind of
first big thing. So wasn't that same like we were
walking into like with you guys, but it was it

(59:28):
was so I mean, the Russo brothers were the directors
of the first couple episodes and they were like, we
want this to be like the social Network. We're like
what they were like, we want no air in between
what you're saying, and we're like, okay, can you do
that in the editing room?

Speaker 5 (59:42):
Okay, but fine, we'll do it.

Speaker 9 (59:43):
So we would do it, and it was like it
was nuts.

Speaker 7 (59:46):
But if I hadn't done scrubs, there's no way I
could have executed what they were asking of me.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
Did you enjoy seasons that?

Speaker 5 (59:53):
I go?

Speaker 2 (59:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (59:54):
Three?

Speaker 2 (59:56):
Did that went three seasons? I thought it were like
seven seasons?

Speaker 5 (59:59):
No? No, it just now plays on repeat.

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
Somewhere.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
Carrie, you were recently the woman who got bit by
spider back when you were doing research in the Amazon.

Speaker 9 (01:00:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:00:17):
So I like to think of myself as like, it's
like pregnant Indiana Jones.

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
Okay, we just recently learned that that sentence that went
viral is.

Speaker 9 (01:00:28):
You Yeah, what is it?

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
Oh, Daniel, what's the sentence? I don't have it memorized.
In Madame Webb, there was a line in the trailer
that went Viralil Simms.

Speaker 3 (01:00:40):
He was in the Amazon for my mom when she
was researching spiders right before she died.

Speaker 8 (01:00:46):
We didn't have to get super specific about it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
It was just a nice trivia moment. Carrie didn't know
that that was you.

Speaker 9 (01:01:00):
Glad for you that you enjoyed it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
I enjoyed ourgo thanks me too.

Speaker 9 (01:01:07):
That was a great that's a great movie, a masterpiece.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
Did you guys you shot that in America though?

Speaker 8 (01:01:12):
Right, No, we shot that in Turkey. We went to Istanbul,
That's what's up.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
Could you guys were inside the whole time?

Speaker 9 (01:01:21):
Not the whole time.

Speaker 8 (01:01:21):
I remember we go to the Bizarre and there's there
like Riot and the Bizarre and that was with So
they got a lot of Irani of Persian refugees who
were living in Turkey to be the background actors in
that scene.

Speaker 9 (01:01:37):
And we went to do a rehearsal and these.

Speaker 8 (01:01:41):
Guys didn't know, uh, like the background actors didn't really
know the distinction between the rehearsal and like rolling.

Speaker 9 (01:01:47):
So it got so crazy so fast.

Speaker 8 (01:01:49):
The whole crew was like, oh my god, something bad
is happening. And then they realized that these guys were
just like really bringing it.

Speaker 9 (01:01:56):
And we were like wow, wow, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:01:59):
That was that's an incredible film. I love that movie. Yeah,
well we got to wrap it up. Thank you guys
for coming on. I hope I answered your question carry
why this is worth it and why it's something we
enjoyed doing.

Speaker 9 (01:02:12):
Yeah, I was just curious what got you started.

Speaker 8 (01:02:17):
And if there was anything you guys like learned by
doing it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
It really did come out of the blue. I'm gonna
be honest with you. I was at a party and
some dude was like, yo, you and Zach should do
a freaking podcast together, and I thought Zach would never
agree to it, and then he said, yeah, here we are.

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
Well what happened was I was aware that The Office
Ladies one was they were sort of the first people
to do a rewatch podcast with cast members of the
actual show, and I was aware that was very popular
and people were loving it, and so when Donald mentioned
it to me, I was like, yeah, that sounds fun.
I'd be like cool to rewatch it, and obviously a
chance to sit around and joke with him, which I

(01:02:56):
love doing. I never would have imagine it would become
so popular, which which is which is now so much
fun to just do it every week and check in
with each other.

Speaker 9 (01:03:07):
I have a science podcast.

Speaker 8 (01:03:09):
It's called Hyperthetical, and I interview scientists. Each episode is
like a what if question, like what if the Yellowstone
super volcano erupted? Or what if all the world's digital
data was erased all at once, and then I interview
a scientist, an expert in that field, and then that
interview is intercut with sort of a speculative fiction kind

(01:03:29):
of like a little radio play about people in that scenario,
and we sort of the real science.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
Wow, what happened if the data was destroyed and.

Speaker 8 (01:03:39):
Was well, like money, money totally gone and lots of
things run Well, I don't know how you would value
paper currency. You got to listen to the episode Donald, how.

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
Do you find the scientist?

Speaker 8 (01:03:59):
So so I have done a lot of science communication.
One show that I was on for AMC called Halt
and catch Fire. I played a computer engineer in the
nineteen eighties and that got me really into science communication
and that's one of my big hobbies that I do.
So one of the groups that I work with is
called the Science and Entertainment Exchange. They're part of the
National Academy of Sciences, and they basically develop relationships with

(01:04:23):
like Hollywood people to talk about how we use science
and storytelling and how science can be used better in narratives.
And there's also a sort of like an inclusion piece,
so Geena Davis. It's called the Institute on Gender and Media,
and one of the things they say is if you
can see it, you can be it. So we talk

(01:04:43):
a lot about representation, like women can be scientists. Scientists
aren't all old white dudes with crazy white hair, and
that stuff really matters. So yeah, the Science and Entertainment
Exchange they have a phone number you can call, anybody
can call, and they'll set you up with a science consultant.

Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
So cool.

Speaker 8 (01:05:03):
Yeah, So it's like it's like like eight sixty six
need sigh, And they'll like connect you with like a
like a genius, brilliant scientist who can tell you all
about your script how to make it more accurate interns
whatever it is, physics or astronomy or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
So if you're writing, if you're writing a script, you
can call them and they will set you up with
the correct scientists to make sure that your science is accurate.

Speaker 9 (01:05:29):
That's correct.

Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
That's so cool.

Speaker 5 (01:05:31):
Isn't that awesome?

Speaker 1 (01:05:32):
I like that too. What's your podcast?

Speaker 9 (01:05:36):
I do have a show that it is a yes,
I do.

Speaker 7 (01:05:39):
It's it's we're working on it right now, but it's
it's called The Actor and the Skater Because my husband's
a professional skateboarder. Oh, every actor that comes on has
to learn a skate trick at the end, and every
skater that comes on has to read a scene with me.

Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
That's funny.

Speaker 9 (01:05:57):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
I watched these guys in Union Square Park practicing skateboarding.
I don't know if I can do anything.

Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
We could do it, Yes, we can.

Speaker 5 (01:06:04):
You, Oh, your guys are coming on. You don't even
have a choice.

Speaker 9 (01:06:09):
There is another option.

Speaker 5 (01:06:10):
There is another option.

Speaker 7 (01:06:11):
You can learn to say, like if you have you
ever heard like skate tricks and what they sound like?
Like that whole like, that whole vocabulary is the same
you would you would have to yeah, there's yeah clip donald,
there's a whole combination of them that sounds like to me,
I'm like, I don't it's like German. And then you
could say that and then Billy would do the trick.

Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
All right, that's awesome.

Speaker 9 (01:06:34):
That's another option, Doug.

Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
But I see old folks at the freaking skate park now,
man our age. I asked, this dude was like sixty
five years old learning how to skate. He was doing
the fucking ramp and ship like that, going back and forth.
He wasn't doing anything crazy we could do this shit man,
and it's good on the body.

Speaker 1 (01:06:51):
Balance on abs is good on the body. I don't
know if that's true.

Speaker 9 (01:06:56):
I don't know that anyone ever said that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
All Right, gals, thank you, we love you.

Speaker 9 (01:07:02):
Thanks guys, pleasure, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:07:04):
For coming on. A man of sens and donald count
of so out.

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
Stories that show we made about a bunch of talks
and nurses in the janitor.

Speaker 5 (01:07:17):
I said, here's the stories.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
Natural sho no, so getta round you here up, Gada,
round you here up. Sweet show mis