Aisha Tyler for President!

Queen of the Internet, the video game icon, and the Friends color barrier breaker, Aisha Tyler, breaks down her career from Talk Soup to her new brand of cocktails, losophe. She talks about the legacy of Friends and the animal that is sitcom performing. She and Donald gush about their love of animation. Tyler's role as Lana Cane on Archer came about because of her passion for Sealab 2021. Plus, Tyler talks about how her relationship with video games has changed as she's gotten older and what mainstays have never left her council. 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
There they are, Daniel, we missed you. Welcome back to
the program. Thank you happy to be here. How is everyone? Donald?
You look fly, you look happy?

Speaker 2 (00:09):
You like my shirt?

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Yeah, you're not wearing your drinks. You're not wearing your sweatshirt,
your Mickey Mouse sweatshirt. It's too hot for the Mickey
Mouse sweatshirt.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
It's like one hundred and seventy five degrees outside right.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Now, so hot. But I love it.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
It's tattooing hot.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
It's hot when it's hotter where you live. Though you
live on Mars.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
I don't live on Mars. I live in freaking I
live on Tattooing.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
Yeah, Duel.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
I've been to your house and your wife said, don't
come over before four, it'll be too hot.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
I love that. My wife sounds like a prospector.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Casey said for your birthday, She's like, I don't think
we should have everybody over before four, And I was
like why, it's a birthday barbecue, of course, and she's
like yo sing. And then I got there at like four,
I was like, fuck, it's hot.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
I'm a little bit bored in l A. Can we
say this, Well, you're you're a single person, like Hey,
I believe that it was Chris Rock who said married
and board. Is it single and lonely? Married and board?
Married in board? What's the saying, Donald, Hey, what what's

(01:22):
the saying?

Speaker 2 (01:24):
Married in board? Single and lonely?

Speaker 1 (01:25):
Yeah? I think l A really magnifies that because I'm
not saying you're bored if you're married in LA, don't
get me wrong, but these people with their kids and
they got the basket. No, I'm just saying, you have
so much to do. You have so much to do,
you don't have time to realize you're bored. I know,

(01:51):
what do you do? What's your what's your when you're
single in l A? And what's your trick to not
be bored? Because all your friends are taking their kids
to basketball tournaments?

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Oh, I'm just gonna tell you that so much.

Speaker 4 (02:03):
I'm from a different generation. None of my friends have children.
My very first friend is pregnant except the ones I
left in high school. Like adult friends, no babies.

Speaker 5 (02:13):
So it's just a little different.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
So we're constantly just calling each other being like, let's
go do something. I'm just always out with my single friends,
like where are we going next? I just take them
on going to be.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Honest with you, Zach. I'm gonna be honest with you. You
stayed single too long, and now all of your freaking
single friends are freaking married with kids, and you sitting
here having to freaking understand. Yo, why you gotta freaking
be done with the podcast by three point thirty or

(02:43):
why you got it? You know? Oh you have to understand. Wait,
you go into Anaheim this weekend again for basketball. You
gotta understand these things. This is what happens when you
commit to something right and.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
I hear you and in something you put a lot
of things.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
I put seed everywhere, just.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
Through seeds like a gardener. One was like your seed
was like you know that thing they put the they
put the machine, they fill it with seed and then
they roll. It's well, I guess it is my long

(03:30):
winded way of saying, when you are single, New York
City is a whole lot more fun than LA.

Speaker 4 (03:35):
That's just good to know what makes more exciting because
I do be getting bored out here.

Speaker 5 (03:41):
Sometimes everything still spread out.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
Thank you, Joell. It took you a moment to fucking
give me an amen. It's just it's just in New
York there's pedestrians I don't know if you've heard of this,
but in other cities they have pedestrians. Yeah, you can
walk places and you can like run into people and
you can be like, oh, hey, Tony, good to see you.
Do you want to grab a drink and catch up?

(04:05):
Can you imagine that.

Speaker 5 (04:08):
In advance?

Speaker 1 (04:09):
It's just way more It's just way more social and uh.
And even if you don't have anything going on, you
just walk around and people watch and you just you know,
there's just so much to do just walking around and
looking at the world. And I think in La you know,
there are there are a couple of neighborhoods that have
where you can walk around, but I don't live in one,

(04:30):
and I just find it a bit isolating. I'm sure
people can relate if if you're not in a relationship
and you don't have kids, and you're not at the
in your twenties or whatever partying like a crazy I
think it gets a little bit boring.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
You know what you need?

Speaker 3 (04:46):
Man?

Speaker 2 (04:47):
What an animation room?

Speaker 1 (04:55):
My god? Yeah, maybe I do need to hop That's
another thing. My hobby is like going to the arts
and seeing things. In New York, I see so many
plays and I go to I just wander into galleries
and that ship.

Speaker 5 (05:09):
It's not the same out here. I've been to several
theaters and it's just not hitting.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
You need a girlfriend.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
Your diagnosis is that I need a girlfriend.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
That's your diagnosis, girlfriend, Bro, it's that I'm telling you.
You need or a friend. You need somebody to go
out there.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
A friend, Damn, dude.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
No, not but like a friend that you can hang
out with and kiss on, and you know, a girlfriend.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
I don't want to kiss on someone. I don't want
to kiss on someone who's not a girlfriend. This is Jim.
I'm not gay. I'm not gay. We hang out and
I kiss on him.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
I was trying to be general with everyone. You need
somebody to get out there with right and enjoy and
enjoy these hobbies things that you like.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
I think, yeah, I think I need to cuff up.
As they say, when's cuffing season, Joel.

Speaker 5 (06:03):
That starts in November.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
No, it's not November.

Speaker 4 (06:05):
You're not trying to cuff gross those winters.

Speaker 5 (06:10):
Listen, the summer a sweat I'm afraid of sweat. Donald.

Speaker 4 (06:15):
The idea of is that it's cold and you can
no longer see bodies. You're like I don't know what
these people look like under their giant coats. I don't
know what's really happening and your massive hats.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
I thought cupping season was this sound the sweat.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
No, it's cuffing like you throw handcuffs on a person. Right.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Oh, I thought it was cuffing like cup like when
the sweat cup the two get and get the bruises
on your back.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
It was coming from like you're putting handcuffs on someone,
You're cuffing them.

Speaker 4 (06:53):
I believe that is the idea. It's like we are
now connected to one another. We have cuffed each other.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
Yes, yeah, which change that language. I don't know that
I'm ready to cuff up. Maybe. I mean, if I
met the right person, I would cuff early. I don't
know why it's November.

Speaker 5 (07:09):
Immediately.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
I'm fine to cuff early.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
Get your cuff on you.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
Yeah, is July too early to cuff?

Speaker 6 (07:17):
Joel?

Speaker 1 (07:18):
You think it's too hot.

Speaker 4 (07:20):
I think the summer is for playing the board and
landing the plane.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
But you know, you're like, Hey, I'm gonna.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
Take Joel's advice. I'm gonna I'm gonna wait to cuff.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
It's only a couple more months. To it's only a
few more.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
I'm a bit I'm just a bit bored. I think
i just got to get out of here. Yeah, I'm
gonna get the fuck out of here because there's nothing
to do here. All my friends are cuffed and they
have little cuffing cufflings. They take their little cufflings to
basketball tournaments and don't want to do anything. So, wait,

(07:55):
can you correct something for me? I understand this, this
controversy about Lebron's son and nepotism or haters saying that.
Are the haters saying, and I don't know anything about basketball,
that he's not good enough to be on the team.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
That's not Yeah, they're just saying, yes, No, that's not.
That's what they're saying.

Speaker 5 (08:11):
It's absolutely saying that.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
But that's not. That's not one person is saying that,
and not one serious person about sports who understands sports
is saying that. Fucking haters are saying that. But the
thing is they're saying he's good. But nobody's ever been
the fifty fifth pick in the draft and has gotten

(08:34):
it much hype. So because Lebron is not just as.

Speaker 4 (08:38):
Much this much money, right, he got back shack he's
got a heart condition.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
Nepotism. Man, Listen, yes, listen, I'm gonna keep it one hundred.
If you're gonna bet on anybody, aren't you gonna bet
on Lebron's kid, the kid who's been going through the training,
his whole.

Speaker 5 (08:54):
Didn't bet on Michael Jordan's children.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
Michael Jordan's didn't do what Lebron's kids did. You guys,
Let's let's see that. Let's see how this pans out.
Let's see how this pans out. Give it a give
it the three years four year situation. Let's see how
this pans out. I think a lot of people are
going to be like, yo, man, I was wrong. Lebron

(09:19):
is pretty good man, Brownie Junior, I guarantee it. You
can already see.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
The kid hasn yes and they call him Bronni. That's
his nickname. Educated on this? All right, Well, we're gonna
stay tuned, everyone, and we're gonna see how Bronnie does.
All right, are you ready? Donald? Do you know Aisha Tyler?

Speaker 2 (09:42):
We've hung out a couple of times.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
Now I want to ask him the very first question
that's on my mind. And I'm very excited because Aisha
covers a lot of subjects that you like, including video
games and Star Wars and animation, and you saying there's
never any black people on Friends.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Well, that's the one thing I wanted to talk to
her about. She freaking broke the matrix. Everybody's like, wait
a second, wait.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
Whoa whoa whoa whoa count I said, baby girl, stories,
I'm not show. We made about a bunch of times
and nurses.

Speaker 7 (10:22):
And he said, he's the stories nephews. No, so YadA
round here, yeada round here up sweat me.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yeah, she's in the booth.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
Wowhi god, why have you not aged one hour? What
the fuck?

Speaker 3 (10:50):
Oh, Adrina, I've been adreana chroming. I don't know if
you guys have heard about adrena chroming. It's so great.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
What are you saying chroming?

Speaker 1 (10:57):
What's a dream of chroming?

Speaker 3 (10:58):
Oh? Drinking babies? You know? Check out the internet.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
You look twenty one years old, and I have aged
and you haven't.

Speaker 6 (11:07):
You look as handsome as ever, radiating masculine energy through
my computer.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
The both of you.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
Welcome to the program. That's that you know, Donald, and
that's our DJ. Daniel's our engineer. That's Joel Monique our producer. Hi, guys,
Daniel's going to ask you about your sound. Go ahead, Daniel,
real quick. Hi, you should pleasure Hi.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
Hi.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Do you happen to be wearing headphones at the moment?

Speaker 3 (11:29):
I'm wearing ear butt.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
That rules great. It looks like you are in a
quiet space.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
I am in a sound boost in that.

Speaker 6 (11:38):
Because I'm a douche bag like I have a sound boot.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
Money. You're making money.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
You're making that v oh money, You're making that.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
Everybody understands.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
All right, Welcome to the Thank you, all right, Daniel,
stop talking you welcome to the program.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
Are you sure, Daniel?

Speaker 3 (11:57):
I already see what the dynamic is here, Daniel, Daniel,
now you can up all right.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
He just likes to do his monologue. We're so happy
to have you. We have so many things to ask
you about. It's so good to see you. There's so
many areas where our lives overlap. Most importantly, we want
to start right off the bat because Donald has always
said that there were no black people on Friends.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
You broke the matrix.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
You broke the trix, and Donald has we were gonna
when we when we finished doing the scrubs, we watch program.
We said maybe we should watch Friends, and Donald said, no,
I he's just the only black person that's ever been
on Friends.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
You be to it, immediately.

Speaker 6 (12:41):
Tell us about that other black people on Friends, Like now,
I realized that they might have been stress testing the concept,
right because Gabby you know, was on for one episode.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
And she also dated Joey Right. And then I.

Speaker 6 (12:55):
Literally just the other day I realized that Sherry Shepherd
was on there. I'm not quite sure, but she was right,
so they were They kept dipping their toe into the
the tepid waters of diversity.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Going back, tell me Sherry Shepherd had more than one
scene on French.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
It was probably just one scene, and there was a
black guy.

Speaker 6 (13:14):
There are a couple of black people at the office,
right Joelle, I'd be like, Joel was the authoritative person.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
Friends.

Speaker 5 (13:21):
Why can't I think of her name?

Speaker 4 (13:22):
The It was on it and she was great too.
But it's a lot of like most of I think
all except for maybe you know had like is one
episode kind of feature.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
Yeah, I you should tell us about your experience on that,
just right off the bat, because I think it's the
most part. It's got to be the most popular suitcum
of all time. It seems to me and still is.
I think, yeah, it keeps going. Every generation continues to
find it. And I wondered, I wondered, if you had
a good time, what was.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
It like I did? I mean, I did have a
good time.

Speaker 6 (13:55):
You know Donald's Protestations, Uh, to the to the to
the side.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
I mean, like it was.

Speaker 6 (14:01):
It was the biggest show on TV at that time,
and I was very confident I wasn't going to get
the jobs.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
That was cool, you know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (14:06):
Like I know, sometimes you go and you're like, well,
this is going to be fine. I'll get to meet
some friends. I'm never going to work here. So maybe
I was a little bit more relaxed than other people.
But I do remember very vividly that at the time
I was doing stand up full time, which meant that
I was a vampire. So you know, you stay out
to two in the morning, you sleep until ten or twelve,
you have two bowls of cocoa puffs, you watch some cartoons,

(14:26):
and then I would watch the Friends reruns right from
five to six o'clock, like KTLA five. So by the time,
see you, jo all knows what I'm talking about. So
by the time that I went in for the audition.
The only thing I did know was that I had
seen every episode.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
That's good.

Speaker 6 (14:44):
Truck and you guys are both, you know, extraordinary comedic
actors and so, you know, like comedy, and specifically like sitcom.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
Comedy is its own animal, It has.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
Its own math. I never got callbacks for him because
I couldn't figure out the math and.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
Study of a massive pitch.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
I know what I mean. I'm not being self deprecating.
I had been in the theater, I had done I
had done plays, but I never I mean, I'm not
saying that I couldn't if I tried.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
Now, but every time you've been on the sitcom you
crush but okay.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
Thank you. But I never in auditioning for them. I
never could quite get that rhythm right because.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
You are studying back then. It's very specific. And I
did it. She would come on, she said it, You
said it yourself. You would get off off the stage,
go home and watch sitcoms.

Speaker 6 (15:29):
But it's funny because it was so even looking back
at it now, I think, and that show is still
so popular. There's such a specificity to four camera comedy,
even different from like Scrubs, which is single camera, and
you guys could be more naturalistic and you had a
lot more kind of like character stuff that was just
like I had this really specific case.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
So all I knew going in was like, well, I
know how to tell a friend's joke that I liked.

Speaker 6 (15:53):
All I knew was I know how to tell I
know how this joke is supposed to sound right.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
Whether I'm going to do it well or not, whether
they're going to like me, I know how to tell it. Yeah,
And I remember that. I walked in, and I know
you guys have had this experience. I walked in and
there was just like so many famous.

Speaker 6 (16:06):
People I heard, and I was not one of them,
Like you.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
Know, like at least a bonet was down the hallway.
I was like, well, I just need to get back
in the car.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
And go right happen.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
I had the exact opposite experience.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
Where you were the most famous person, where.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
My manager was like, this is the worst. My manager
was like, it's a special audition. It's just going to
be you, no one else, You and the director. It's
going to be such a great audition. They want to
just see you. I walked in. It was me and
a lot of people that were not working yet, but

(16:41):
we're on their way. And it was for like the
casting director, and I was like, I got to get
rid of this fucking manager bro.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
He was just he was tricksy.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
I always used to get so in my head when
I was auditioning and I'd sit in the waiting room,
this back before I got scrubs and was was not
known yet, and i would sit in them and I'd
look around at just the most handsome men in the world,
and I'd be like, I'm not going to get this part.
I don't think because I don't look like that. And

(17:10):
then occasionally I would hear them through the through the
wall doing their audition and I'd be like, oh, maybe
I have a shot because they can't act right.

Speaker 6 (17:21):
But I cannot spring a full sentence together with all
of the required parts right.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
I'd be like, Okay, well, maybe it's like you know,
one to one right now, because he looks like that,
but he's not funny at all.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
How did he get up the stairs? How did he
navigate the elevator? Buttons?

Speaker 2 (17:39):
Yes, I will say this, this is a great segue.
Well we can still talk about friends. But to be
able to do voiceover and also be able to be
physical and natural with your movement and to hear and listen,
but to be able to do voiceover and know specifically
what the cadence and what the rhythm of the comedy
is supposed to be helps a lot. And you two

(18:01):
are both very very very good at voiceover, and that
I think that helps you both.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
I love it so much. I wonder, Aisha, how you
found such a lane in that, because you're very popular
in that, in that space, and how did that, how
did that kind of come about?

Speaker 3 (18:18):
Oh? Magic? I mean, you know so much of this business.

Speaker 6 (18:20):
I mean, sure you have to train and you have
to be good, but we all know brilliant people who
don't work, and we know ding dongs who do right,
So like a lot of it is just you know,
trying to be ready and then hopefully, like the window
cracks open and you burst through and hopefully you have
pants on when you do it.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
I literally like it was like this, It was just
one thing. It was just Archer.

Speaker 6 (18:39):
That was the thing that opened everything else and it
and it was an offer, So like I can't claim
any magic about I went in, I wowed them. You know,
they knew me maybe from talk soup. I do remember
that when I was doing talk Soup, I was obsessed
with Seam twenty twenty one.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
And for people who haven't seen.

Speaker 6 (18:54):
It, and this, this was a show that these guys
did before Frisky didn't go And they took an old
ChIL from the seventies. It was called Sea Left two
and they just like revoice all the characters like the
same animation.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
That's sounds hiious.

Speaker 6 (19:05):
Oh it was brilliant and like they lived at this
sea lab under this sea obviously, and they were all insane.
So like that was it which you would be if
you lived und the sea for any extended amount of time.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
Concept by the way, so I interrupt you, but that
concept needs to be It should be brought back, find
some old ass animation and then just revoice it with
funnier new shit.

Speaker 6 (19:25):
Absolutely, And like one of the guys had a girlfriend
who was made out of a mop and a bucket
and he would have sex with her like in a closet,
and like everybody was always fighting and like eating off
the ground.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
I mean, it was genius.

Speaker 6 (19:35):
So I would talk about it all the time on
Maybe that's how they knew about me because I couldn't
stop talking about twenty twenty one. And so when I
got the script and I read it, I was like, Okay,
this is way too smart and funny to ever actually
become a series.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
It's never gonna go.

Speaker 6 (19:48):
So I'm gonna just get to go to Atlanta and
kick it with the Sea Lab twenty twenty one guys
and like steal some some freedom hips out of the
pantry at the voiceover facility and fly back to LA.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
And that was it. I was like, this is never
gonna happen. And I remember when it went.

Speaker 6 (20:02):
Adam Reori called me and like we had a full
ten minutes of like just laughter because we were like
this is wild, like we none of us expected this.
And then you know, it went fourteen seasons. But no
credit to me, that show is, in my opinion, the
best written and the most beautifully animated adult I have to.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
Confess something that's going to make Jo will tear up,
but I've never seen Archer, and.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
Joe was already disappointed, and Reason.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
Clicks back on to shake his head. And I know this.
You know why I am embarrassed to say it. I
have had so many people who have the same taste
as I. We have a shared sens of humor. Who say,
why are you not watching Archer? You would love Archer?
You would love it. I think I'm going to finally
give it a try because.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
It will shock you. It was.

Speaker 6 (20:49):
I mean, like I like, even though I wasn't on it,
I would say, it will shock you with how extraordinary
it is. And like even being on it, like sometimes
I'll see something like, oh we did that.

Speaker 3 (20:56):
Oh shit, because the show.

Speaker 6 (20:57):
Is like I mean, it's like super edge. It's high edge.
I mean, I like, it's Edora good.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
You'll see.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Donald loves to be edged.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
Before Hold up, do you remember that's where it started, right.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
That's where you jumped off right.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
Yeah, let's let's talk about that real quick, because that's real.
It's real dope. First of all, you're the first black
person the host talk suit, first woman the host talk Suit.
I mean you went all in right, like straight up, like,
let's go. That's a lot of pressure.

Speaker 6 (21:45):
I'll tell you a story about how that went that
I think will be illustrative. So I I was a
standard full time stand up at the time, and I
saw that they were looking for a host and I
had loved that show.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
I was I was a fan of the show, and.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
I wanted to.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
It was such a great show and I had such a.

Speaker 6 (22:00):
Watch Oh the culture out of here, the culture.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
That's true. The only Friends episode you watched was the
ones you were on. I love it.

Speaker 6 (22:14):
So I wanted to watch this for it. And my
manager at the time is like, they'll never hire a
black girl. I was like, okay, thanks for your belief
in me. Uh And I got my agent system at
me for it. And again it was just a thing
where I knew the show, so I knew how to
tell a talk soup joke. But they wouldn't hire me
because I wasn't famous enough and so, but.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
I was looking at the people they were putting on there.

Speaker 6 (22:34):
I was like, y'all, you need to work on your
like your your barometric standards. And but I was a
regular at the time on the show that the precursor
to Real Time Politically and Correct with Bill Maher, which
was on CBS. So I had done a bunch of
like comedic television appearances. I was like, I got them
to give me one and they were giving me everybody
a week.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
They gave me one episode.

Speaker 6 (22:52):
They gave me one episode to show what I could
do and I went on and I just have and
I did, especially back then, but I still do kind
of like a college dude sense of humor.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
And it just worked.

Speaker 6 (23:03):
It just clicked with the fans and they wrote in
like literally, I got written onto that show. They were like,
we got more fan mail for for you than anybody
else who's done this show. So I got voted in
because nobody over there believed in me. And I had
so many executives dudes be like, I don't know, man,
like the fans all white boys, how is that going
to work? I was like, my boys, look at me.
I am literally like one made me in a computer.

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Look at me.

Speaker 3 (23:30):
Wow, Like we're in science too. It was about me.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
So it was they should make Donald and I would
be there for weird Science too sweet. How does your
memory it started? It all started with Greg Kinney or
that's what started his.

Speaker 6 (23:48):
Career here, and then it was John John Henson, John Henson,
and then House Sparks and then me and I saw
John Henson in the Ralphs on Uh Librea and third
you know that Ralph like in the produce section, and
he was and this was after House Sparks and he's
been off a while, and he was like, I'm so

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excited for you.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
I really want you to get this job. I'm gonna
make sure I'm gonna call it.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
Where did they kick him off? What did happened to him?

Speaker 3 (24:14):
Johnny left to do other stuff?

Speaker 1 (24:16):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (24:16):
It was Yeah, like.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
Everybody was really good. I really liked him great.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
He's such a great guy.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
Like he is he a stand up Still what does
he do these days?

Speaker 6 (24:24):
I you know, I'm not in the stand up like
community and not like I like rejected im and just
like wandered off to do other stuff.

Speaker 3 (24:31):
But I know he was hosting that the wipe out.

Speaker 6 (24:35):
I think he was hosting wipeout from you know, the
one where everybody gets popped in the face with the fist.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
Yes, like the version of the Japanese show. But he so,
I'm sure he's still tours.

Speaker 6 (24:45):
He's He's just he was just like a very generous
soul and I remember like really encouraging to me. And
I'm actually on great in terms of all those guys.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
That was before the social media craze.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
Was this was no Twitter.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
Yeah, I feel like that show would be tough now
because the jokes were such that it was Twitter.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
It was like, uh.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
Twitter, Yeah, it was finding all of the memes, all
of that stuff and putting it up there and talking
about it and and and then writing the comments underneath it.
But was the comments that was.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
Exactly are you still on Twitter?

Speaker 3 (25:23):
You know what? Sex?

Speaker 6 (25:25):
So here's what happened. Like I left it, and then
I like left it a second time. But I didn't
want to abandon my handle because I don't want somebody
to squad it.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
So I still have it.

Speaker 6 (25:34):
And then it's hard to leave what is like a
built up, you know, puddle of value. People who follow you,
people who want to support you.

Speaker 3 (25:42):
So I didn't want to abandon them.

Speaker 6 (25:43):
So I post very occasionally, but I don't spend most
of my time there.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
Yeah, it's iced to love it, man, I know you
and I have to be really active on it too.
And I have to say I turned it on recently
just to just to see what was happening, and.

Speaker 3 (26:02):
What was happening burning dumpster.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
Pretty intense over there. Yeah, I would say that it's
a it's a city.

Speaker 6 (26:09):
It's the stuff that you didn't see before because there
was so much other positive stuff happening, Like all the
positives have gone, So you're pretty much a just seeing
like the dregs.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
Yeah, I definitely say that, you know, the snark and
sass and sarcasm and anger if you took all those
dials and just like a mixing board and push them
all to the top. So it's not a very pleasurable,
pleasurable spot.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
I really enjoy Twitter like I used to love it.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
We were talking about hate earlier and how Lebron James
this son is being. I think he's the most hated kid.
I mean, granted, the kid got paid a lot of money,
but I think he's the most hated kid in sports
right now.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
It's just envy, though, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
I feel like it's the same thing. And I feel
like if I'm a bed on anyone, I think this
is the kid to bed on, don't you like you
know what I mean?

Speaker 6 (26:58):
People are kind of giving him like the you know,
the kind of a nepo baby thing. But he's an athlete,
Like he still had to prove himself and.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
If he washes out, he's going to wash out on
his own terms.

Speaker 6 (27:07):
He's still got to show improved And I feel like
an athlete, the son of an athlete even more than
the son of somebody in another you know, area of work.
They still have to train, and they still like and
they're being raised by someone who understands what it takes
physical but.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
Yeah, exactly, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
And and one of Joelle's things was just like, well,
Michael Jordan's kids didn't make it. I don't think Michael
Jordan's kids wanted to play basketball. This kid wants to
play basketball.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
I think some kids are like, I don't want that myself.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
Yeah, he wants to be great. So I me, personally,
I bet on this young man and we'll see what
happens in a few years and how well he does.

Speaker 6 (27:46):
We also don't know if Jordan was like, you know,
pulling a King Richard or was like do what you want,
because it does seem like Lebron was like, one of
you is gonna play basketball?

Speaker 3 (27:56):
Like me, what do you make it out here?

Speaker 6 (27:59):
Because and you know that kid's self selected to be
the one.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
Oh even the youngest boy Bryce, this boy's killing he's
on team US.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
You know, what did you expect? I mean, there's so
much of this whole NEPO baby criticism out there, even
when even when there's even when there's extreme talents.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
Do you guys both have kids?

Speaker 1 (28:19):
I do, I have Donald's kids.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
Oh that's nice, Sharon Sharlot.

Speaker 6 (28:24):
I think I don't, and I won't and I but
I wonder if I did, whether I would be pushing
them towards what I do for I don't know whether
i'd be pushing them towards what I do for a living,
or or whether I'd be encouraging them.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
To do something else.

Speaker 6 (28:37):
Because this is such a disappointing and tough business. I
might be like, no, no, no, you know, go be
a lawyer.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
I would never tell my kids to get into entertainment.
I mean, I don't know what.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
If they came to you and said, I want to
do what you do, what would you say?

Speaker 1 (28:48):
I would never stop them because my parents certainly never
set a single sentence that was negative about me pursuing
my dreams. But I do think it's a whole lot
harder in twenty twenty four than it was in nineteen
ninety seven when I graduated college. So I don't know
I would, I would, you know, I don't know that

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you can ever, you know, you know, pooh pooh, your
your child's dream. But I don't know, I think it's very,
very for the odds are so much harder, I think,
even than they were back in the day.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
I mean, the question is nepotism. I don't have a
problem with young kids becoming actors because of watching what
their parents did, and if they've developed their talent from
their parents and watching their parents. I don't think there's
anything wrong with that.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
Well, there's some people who complain about it, but I
always think, so, you're telling me, this beautiful woman and
this beautiful man, who are both talented, came together and
they made a child, and the child happens to be
good looking and has some natural ability. Why is that
surprising to him anyone? Why? I think?

Speaker 6 (30:02):
I think it's beyond that too, which is that this
business is not really that merit driven, right. There's a
certain amount of like merit involved, but it's not really
a meritocracy. So on the business side, they're looking for
a leg up, right, They're looking for a way to
kind of hedge their bets. So if they're going to
hire a kid and that name is familiar to audiences,

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they're going to hire that kid because they feel like
there's going to be a built in curiosity or maybe
even audience for that kid over this other talented person
with no name. But it's always been that way since
the beginning of the industry.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
I was going to say, but when has it been different?

Speaker 3 (30:36):
When has Yeah? Exactly, it's always been my way.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
Judy Garland's children all the way.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
Down, you know what I mean, can't perform. They're not
going to get very far at all.

Speaker 6 (30:45):
Yeah, they're not getting well. They might get further that
they'll eventually hit a wall. But we got a couple
people rooting around out there who who could probably.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
I just feel like, you know, Lebron, Okay, so let's
say nepotism gets Lebron's son in and obviously he's very talented,
but he's not gonna he's not going to go very
far if he ends up being horrible, right, Yeah, he
washed out.

Speaker 6 (31:05):
Like everybody else, especially at athletics. I think in acting
you could go a lot further. But I think in pro.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
You can't hide I mean, he got the money, but
you can't hide ability. They'll send him to the G
League for that whole contract if he doesn't pay out.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
What's the G League? What happens there?

Speaker 2 (31:21):
That's where they send kids who aren't yet developed enough
to play in the NBA.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
That's kind of.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
Oh I never even knew there was a G league.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
Where do they play? They're like the Compton Knickerbockers.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
LA actually has a team, so they play in staples,
they play you know, oh wow, yeah, they well not
all the time, but they you know, they play in arenas.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
All right, we had to take a quick break. We
had to take quick break. When we come back.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
We have made this is like a real radio show.
We're taking a break.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
Yeah, we're going to take a break and you're going
to be so surprised about this break. I'm going to
tell you about it during the rank. There we go. Audience,
are you ready? These are commercials, but they're really really
good ones. Listen about.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
All can't believe what happened?

Speaker 1 (32:16):
Yes, there was some crazy stuff. Well that's where we
do all the X rated Patreon uh stuff.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
You're never going to see it or hear you don't
get behind this paywall.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
Yeah, you got to get behind the paywall to hear
talk x rage. I was on a podcast recently and
he said, okay, now for the Patreon five questions or something,
and I was like, wait, so these people have to
pay to hear these questions, and which was what the

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implication was. So I can't imagine what Donald and I
would hide behind a Patreon wall. All the content makes
us probably all the content you will makes us cut.
Joel is like the den mother who's like, Okay, that
was a good show. I'll be cutting this this, this, this, this, this, this, this,

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We actually record for seven hours audience to make an
hour program for you.

Speaker 3 (33:15):
Oh, I go sure. I was like, just like fake
doctors after dark.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
Yeah, I should tell us about video games? Do you
still play? Are you an avid player? Still?

Speaker 3 (33:28):
It's very painful.

Speaker 6 (33:29):
This is a painful point because I'm I'm not, but
not for lack of wanting to be. I just don't
have the same bandwidth that I had when I was gaming,
like when I was coming home after work and like
you know, playing until four in the morning and so
like and I just did this show called the Star
Players where they were like, do you still game? And
I was like, well, I still play games, but like
I don't have the time for like really good meati

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console gaming. So I'm just I'm inside and your times
games like I'll.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
Just I don't think.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
I don't think that community wants to about Wordle.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
But I really want to go back and play in
my favorites.

Speaker 6 (34:07):
Like I really want to go back because there's like
a remaster in the Last of Us and I loved
that game. I played it when it came out, and
then obviously the series was incredible. Daniel loves word all
and so do I.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
Daniel, you can Jordan the show.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
To participate.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
You didn't have to hide.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
No, we don't have to hide Dane, and we make
him turn his mic off because his house is loud.
But he did participate. Daniel.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
I remember when you said white boys love you.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
I'm getting it.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
For white boys, Danel blushing ever since Daniel, just so
the audience known, Daniel had his screen off, and then
because he wanted to participate, he changed his screen name
to Daniel Loves Wordle so he could sneak back to
the conversation.

Speaker 6 (34:57):
So I like Wordle fine, But I like the other
New York Times games like Connections, Sands Connections. Oh god,
I do be Buddy, be Buddy, every spelly be every
day with my bee Buddy.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
I love Aisha. It's actually good danilism here because he's
our resident video game expert, What other games did you
did you really love when you played?

Speaker 3 (35:18):
So Halo was the gateway, right, So I played a
lot of Halo. I probably played like five or six
hours hours of Halo and the Halo family, especially like
three in Reach. I was in Reach.

Speaker 6 (35:26):
I voiced a character in Reach, and then Gears of
War is also one of my favorite games. And I
also voiced did like voice for the DLC for three
for Gears of War three and then The Last of Us,
which I think is one of the most beautiful video
games ever created. Him like so emotional, so emotional in fact,
so filmic that I had to stop playing for a
while because I Ellie kept dying and I was like

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getting emotionally.

Speaker 3 (35:50):
I was like, I can't keep this skin alive. I
can't take it anymore.

Speaker 6 (35:54):
But then when I watched the show and it was
so beautifully done, I was like, man, I want to
go back and play that game again. So that's like,
that's the first time my list when I get like,
you know, a couple of weeks of downtime, and then
I was actually The Walking Dead. I remember The Walking Dead,
like the tablet version of the game. Did anybody play that?

Speaker 3 (36:09):
Yes? I was so much, so good.

Speaker 5 (36:13):
Every title like I can't everyone's gonna die.

Speaker 6 (36:15):
It's just and you remember, people are like when when
you when you finish that game, you're gonna cry.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
It's like, well, I don't cry about ship man. I'm
a rock, I'm the stone.

Speaker 6 (36:23):
I'm dead inside.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
I was like, oh, did you finish that game? I
was like, Shure, got it.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
Now I understand what these shows are about. Got it.
It's not about the zombies and the killing. It's your
connection to the leg Oh my gosh, sitting here like
I watched what the fuck is walking down? It's a
bunch of zombies. No, it's because you love this character
so much.

Speaker 6 (36:51):
Those shows are not about the zombies. They're about about
survival of relationship of characters. And all those shows, all
the zombie shows asked the question are we essentially good?
Or are we essentially bad? That is the question behind
every zombie show. If all the rules of society fall away,
would we default to it essentially good nature?

Speaker 3 (37:10):
Are humans good?

Speaker 6 (37:11):
Or?

Speaker 1 (37:11):
Also? What do you think? What's your answer?

Speaker 6 (37:14):
You know, I think about this a lot, because look,
if you want to look around at where we aren't
right now on the planet, I do think about it
a lot. I actually think that human beings are essentially good.
And I'll tell you why. As much horrible things as
are happening and have happened in the history of the planet,
and as much disappointing things as are happening. Now you
walk outside, people are walking down the street. People are

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picking up the shit behind their dogs. People are putting
on their seat belts, people are queuing at the supermarket,
people are paying their bills, people are taking care of
their children. For the most part, human beings default to
a collective good mode. Now there are outliers, and there
are moments where people don't, but I think about that
a lot. We're all driving our cars in the same direction.
We're all stopping at the stop sign. I mean, we

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all say please and thank you. That is almost all
of us here. And if we were essentially bad, the
world would not be working at all. We would all
still be in caves and like banging rocks together and
like murdering our neighbor to take their turnips. So, and
I think that, honestly, to crib from Martin Luther King,
the long arc of social justice does trend towards the good.

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We have made a lot of progress. So why which
is why the forces of evil are working so hard
to push us back because they see that they are
And this is I'm speaking in a biblical term.

Speaker 3 (38:27):
I'm just like.

Speaker 6 (38:28):
Actual evil people are see that there's been all this
progress from people of color, all this progress for women,
all this progress for the downtrodden and unrepresented, and they
don't like that. They liked it when they were on top.
And that's why they're fighting so hard to hold on
to their position of power because they know it's a
losing battle and it's almost do you.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
Want to take over the Democratic presidency? And because you're
very good and we're currently we are in.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
Dire straits, you know, did you see?

Speaker 6 (38:57):
So there was a poll Kamala is essentially neck and neck,
which means that you know, she's got a path.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
But they said that the Democrat.

Speaker 6 (39:03):
That pulls ten points ahead of Trump is Michelle Obama.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
So everybody just to start a writer, letting her, let
her write in camp.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
Every time that comes up, Everyone's like, you have no
idea how much that America for America?

Speaker 2 (39:18):
She no way in hell.

Speaker 3 (39:20):
She knows what it entails, right, she knows exactly.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
Don't you feel don't she wants your husband go from
a handsome young man to a handsome old young man
in eight years? Dude, She's like, the fuckt it?

Speaker 1 (39:33):
Don't you think? Don't you think Barak would be like
should we?

Speaker 6 (39:37):
I guarantee you that they have talked about it. I
mean I can't obviously, I don't know what they've said.
But I when you see something like that and she's
definitively pulling ten points ahead of Trump, like without even
being in the race, it is very seductive. And she
does know what the dabatails, and we get you precedents
for one, obviously, but I also think about, like, you
know what it entails, and you only have to do
it for four years. You can just do it for
four years to get us out of the specific kind

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of comment that we're in, Like how much would you
sacrifice to save the world?

Speaker 4 (40:03):
Right?

Speaker 6 (40:03):
Because that's what it really feels like. It doesn't just
feel like America. It feels like Western democracy and our
allies and freedom is what we're fighting for right now.
And I don't know, I haven't. I think she's a
good person. I hope that she at leans contemplating it.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
Seriously.

Speaker 6 (40:18):
But I used to talk with my friends a lot
about the presidency about how everybody goes in being like
I'm going to saul Hunger, I'm gonna end war, I'm
gonna save the babies. I'm gonna like, you know, stop
global you know, like chain climate change. And then think
about the White House as like somebody's actual house and
you buy the house and you don't know what's in there,
but it looks real nice and outside you've got big
grounds and a rose garden.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
And then you go into the house and it's yours now,
don't belong to the last who belongs to you?

Speaker 6 (40:42):
And you open the door to the basement and it's
piled all the way up to the sill with bodies right,
and you just go, oh shit, there's no way I
can clean.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
This mess up.

Speaker 6 (40:52):
And if I even tell people these bodies are in here,
they're gonna blame them all. Um mean, I'm gonna slam
this door.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
I always think about young Barack going into the White
House and like week later he was gray. It was
like it was like they must have told him some shit.

Speaker 6 (41:05):
Everything, they got a book, everything you think you know, And.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
He lived like ten years in a week black.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
Don't crack unless you're the president. Straight up. Let's take
a break.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
We'll be right back after these fine words.

Speaker 3 (41:24):
That.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
All right, let's get on politics. I want to talk
to you about used to host a lot of these
video game what were they like events? Conferences?

Speaker 3 (41:35):
Oh, like E three?

Speaker 1 (41:36):
Yeah, did you enjoy doing that?

Speaker 3 (41:38):
Yeah? It was super fun.

Speaker 6 (41:39):
I mean I was one of the only women to
have done it before or since. And they were like
press conference so easily. Was this big gaming convention. It
was in LA and it would know what it was,
you know, it was Comic Con for video games. You
guys have both, you buy the Comic Con, So it
was Comic Con for video games. And I love Comic Con.
So I loved E three. And you get to play
all the new games and there'd be all kinds of
like big reveals and like the early version of all
the VR that's out now you can play all those games,

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and then they would just do these big kind of
you know, announcements that they would show gameplay, and I
don't know, I love I mean, I was a really
nerdy kid. I love the nerd community, like I was
in We were all nerds before that was a cool.

Speaker 3 (42:13):
Thing to be.

Speaker 6 (42:14):
You know, you know, we said you can't call yourself
a nerd if you didn't spend a significant amount of
your childhood playing alone.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
But he's right, he's but he's so right.

Speaker 6 (42:24):
I was behind a schoolhouse with my boom box and
my feelings, you know what.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
But he's right. It's like, but I mean, at least,
at least it's cool to be a nerd. Now, look
at comical. Look how big it is. I was a
nerd back. Look. I remember being in junior high school.
And it's a sign of immaturity too, I guess, because
if my kid was doing it now, I'd be like, dude,
you're in school.

Speaker 8 (42:47):
I remember being in junior high school with a fucking
Transformer under my desk, freaking trying to transform it, thinking
this is the this is.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
This is the life.

Speaker 3 (43:01):
What's going to help me in my in my career.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
This is gonna and then and then and then putting
it on the table and looking at my buddies when
it was done, like and then just shaking their heads
like what the I had?

Speaker 6 (43:16):
I had a Donkey Kong and Donkey Kong like LCDD
like handheld game that I begged my dad for and
I would.

Speaker 3 (43:23):
Just play that all day long.

Speaker 6 (43:25):
Play that ship in class, play that ship on the bus,
wake up and be like at the bus turn around
when I missing out.

Speaker 3 (43:30):
You know what I mean. I loved it. I loved it.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
I mean that's that's I mean. I feel like that's
what a nerd is. I feel like a lot of people.
I'm not I'm gonna be controversial here. I feel like, just.

Speaker 3 (43:42):
Because you'll get ready to cut this out of the show,
she's ready, she's different the button.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
I feel like, just because you in the cars play,
don't necessarily mean you a nerd.

Speaker 3 (43:55):
Just because when the cars played, don't mean you in
the cars?

Speaker 1 (43:58):
No, no, no, wait, why is it controversial what you're
saying just because you're.

Speaker 6 (44:02):
In He's just saying, like some people are posing, some
people got it. But what's great about that community or
what can be great about it, and it can be
just as gaykeeping as any of the community, is.

Speaker 3 (44:13):
That, Like you know, for a lot of the people.

Speaker 6 (44:17):
That come there, they don't this is their connection with
the world. Sometimes it's their only connection.

Speaker 3 (44:21):
And when we.

Speaker 6 (44:22):
Would do comic Con for Archer, we would do a
signing every year, and you know, you people have been
waiting in line and they spend all this money, and
they traveled across the country and I would say, how
is your day, how's your con and they would go,
this is the greatest day of my life.

Speaker 3 (44:34):
And to be a part of that.

Speaker 6 (44:36):
To have some little tiny aspect of like what I
do and what my crew do, does be a part
of like making someone's stay out. I'm sure you guys
have had that experience with someone's Like you know, I
love your show. This is so insane, but like I
watched your show with my dad when he was dying
in the hospital, Like that was our way to laugh
and to get some cathartis like, you know, we're not
curing cancer.

Speaker 3 (44:56):
Well you know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (44:57):
And I don't think of it as being as lofty
as anything. You know, it's like saving lives, but it
is a way that people connect and that they come together.
And we're so isolated, increasingly isolated as human beings, and
so you know, to do a show like Archer, to
have a thing like Comic Con or show like Scrubs
where people really connect to it and it makes them
feel connected to the larger world.

Speaker 3 (45:16):
I think it's special.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
Absolutely I love Dors. I think, yeah, man, I know
Joel's been holding a lot ahead.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
You can't go as far as you will go.

Speaker 3 (45:27):
Go.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
I wish. I feel like you and Joel would be
best friends. But go ahead, we already are.

Speaker 3 (45:32):
I feel it.

Speaker 4 (45:32):
I feel it if I say BlackGirl Nerds or VG
and do you know what that is?

Speaker 5 (45:35):
Do you remember them on Twitter?

Speaker 3 (45:37):
Maybe? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (45:38):
But I think also like they have like a website
because I feel like they've interviewed me.

Speaker 3 (45:41):
A bunch that was us.

Speaker 5 (45:42):
So that was my first time in California.

Speaker 4 (45:45):
Was it was like the memory of the Toddler, but
that's so great, it's good to see you again.

Speaker 3 (45:53):
It was.

Speaker 4 (45:53):
We were a large team. I think we maybe show
like three or four times, but it was my first gig.
When I got to l A, I saw a post
on Twitter that was just like, hey, have you any
kind of knowledge about movies and are you prepared to
write about that might just come out of film school.

Speaker 5 (46:07):
I was like, I could write an essay, no problem.
So they hired me.

Speaker 4 (46:10):
And then because I was in LA, I was getting
all these opportunities to go spaces in an interview and
talk to people.

Speaker 5 (46:16):
But when I was trying to explain my parents.

Speaker 3 (46:17):
What I was doing.

Speaker 4 (46:19):
I was so glad you were out there in the
world's boy, do you be like, Okay, so this is
like three Like she's a black woman in the nerds
space and she's making like money and getting gigs and
I will be able.

Speaker 5 (46:29):
To do that eventually too.

Speaker 4 (46:30):
And it was so wonderful just to have somebody out
there working, and then on top of that, to see
how you've given back to your like the different fandoms,
Like I really like watching your career because you know,
you mentioned you were like a call in Select, but
I feel like everywhere you go your fans are just like, Okay,
I used to hear we're holding we're holding down for it,
Like what do we need to do to actually he

(46:52):
stays on the show or that the show stays on
the air, like we love it.

Speaker 3 (46:56):
So you've just been like.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
You do have quite a fan base that seems to me.

Speaker 3 (47:00):
The first of all, thank you both of you, and
thank you Joel.

Speaker 6 (47:03):
And one thing I will say that I think you
guys can probably really connect with this, like, especially if
you're not a part of like predominant community. You know,
you're not allowed to be unusual. You're not allowed to
be like neurodiverse, you know what I mean. It's like,
you know, there's so people really want to say, this
is how black people act, this is what they like,
this is the food that they eat, these are the

(47:25):
shows that they watch, and if you're anywhere outside of that,
like tiny circle at the center of event diagram.

Speaker 3 (47:31):
You feel completely excluded.

Speaker 6 (47:32):
So like a lot of these communities and these conversations
for me, have been a way to validate people who
feel like they don't fit.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
Like when I was a kid, you know, people are.

Speaker 6 (47:40):
Like black people don't skateboard, black people don't listen to
heavy metal, black people don't like punk rock. And I
was like, well watch me skate listen a punk rock
and fucking go to Metallica concert and you can suck
my deck. I because I hate it being told what
I liked, what I was allowed to do, who I
was allowed to be. And I feel like so much
of like the like the blurred, like the whole blurred
community and not ethos is like be who you are

(48:00):
and embrace don't let people gate keep you. And I
think that applies to anyone anywhere, Like just to be
able to live your life and be self actualized in
your own way, you know what I mean? Like for example,
Donald and all of his tiny figurines behind him looking
like do you see what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 (48:17):
Like Yo? For my favorite blurd Well, we started the
word blurred bro on Scrubs. That's that came from us, bro,
straight up.

Speaker 3 (48:25):
And I don't know that's true, but I'm going to
give it to you right now.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
I put it one hundred. It is because because Zach
would always be like he would when we would do scenes,
it would be like blacks and or and stuff like that,
and blurred was one of the things. He's a blurred
and then we create Listen, people might have been saying
it before that, but I promise you.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
Just give it to him.

Speaker 3 (48:47):
I gave it to him.

Speaker 6 (48:47):
I mean people probably were saying it before that because
I'm but I'm just so anyway, because I want you
to win Aisha.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
How old are you?

Speaker 3 (48:54):
She can't ask to leap I'm fifty three.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
Oh my god, I.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
Would never have bo. I was trying to trump yours
just now and I couldn't.

Speaker 3 (49:11):
You can google it. You can google it, so it's
not like it's a secret.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
Are you married. Just uh no, And are you dating?

Speaker 3 (49:21):
I was married? No, I'm just I'm just hoarding my money.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
Okay, are you over it? Are you just the dating scene?

Speaker 3 (49:30):
I I have no interest in that.

Speaker 6 (49:31):
I would I literally could not even imagine going on
a dating app. Like I have friends that are on
those apps right now, and I'm like, if you're on
the Apple, I'm just now I'm going to be controversial
to also get riddy if you were on an app
to catch some dick, God bless you go.

Speaker 3 (49:46):
That's what those apps are for.

Speaker 6 (49:48):
Catch as much d as you possibly can't both hands,
mouth open, catch that d you're trying to get.

Speaker 3 (49:53):
In a relationship. That is not the place. It's just
not the place.

Speaker 6 (49:56):
Nobody on there is series about anything but getting laid, and.

Speaker 1 (49:59):
I I think the women as well. Wait yes dick, yeah,
okay catching.

Speaker 6 (50:08):
Dick No no, no, no, no, no, absolutely not because
there's just nobody on there is serious and there, and
they're so fit, like like finicky and.

Speaker 3 (50:18):
Fickle and horrible and exploited hive.

Speaker 6 (50:20):
You can't trust anybody like remember when Ben Affleck was
on Remember when Ben Affleck was on Riah and then
that he matched with that girl and she didn't think
he was real, so she swiped him out and then
he went on and he told her, heyte it's really me,
and she.

Speaker 3 (50:34):
Just putsh it on the internet. That's not none of
those things.

Speaker 6 (50:37):
Riya's supposed to be like a private like safe space,
and she blew him up.

Speaker 3 (50:41):
So there's no no place is safe.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
Absolutely are you You don't? You don't if someone sets
you up, you wouldn't go on a date.

Speaker 3 (50:48):
You got to set me up with, like Jeremy Renner
or something like that. Otherwise, bring your guns and just
move against me.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
She wants to avenger.

Speaker 1 (51:01):
I get it.

Speaker 3 (51:02):
Also, take anybody from the DC universe.

Speaker 1 (51:04):
Okay, she doesn't, she does not. She's not prejudiced against
the DC universe.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
Actually, the question what's sexier d C or Marvel what
sex is unfair? This is really an is, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
Listen. I grew up. I grew up on these comics.
I collected DC comics.

Speaker 6 (51:28):
I am a DC girl, and I honestly am also
a Snyder stand So we can get into that if
you want to.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
Oh wow, I'm not going to get into it because
I don't want the hate mail. But okay, I have a.

Speaker 6 (51:38):
Whole reddit where I argued with someone for like eight
pages over Batman versus Superman and why was such a
great film?

Speaker 1 (51:44):
So I get it, you're a great guess.

Speaker 6 (51:50):
Here's what I will say. Marvel is funnier, d C
is sexier. But the problem is, like you want to
bone d C, but you probably.

Speaker 3 (51:57):
Want to marry Marvel, do you know what I mean?

Speaker 6 (51:59):
Because like Mom's gonna make you laugh, and you just
can't bone all day long.

Speaker 3 (52:02):
Somebody has to take out the trash, you know. So
it's like if.

Speaker 6 (52:06):
It was Mary Kill, it's like fu DC, Mary Adventures kill.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
If you're going to catch d you wanted from d C?
Is what you're saying, Yes, well done, thank you.

Speaker 3 (52:19):
Let's go out here and catch this d C.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
Yeah, you're gonna go catch some d.

Speaker 3 (52:24):
What comic book are whose comic books are we killing?

Speaker 2 (52:28):
But you can't, I mean, anybody who could get a
comic book out period?

Speaker 3 (52:32):
Nobody what you said, Joel, who are killing? On the break.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
About to be like, we're gonna cut that part where
I said.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
Yeah, it's rare. It's rare that Joel has to cut something.
She said, that's what's great.

Speaker 3 (52:50):
Yes, I guess you texted my nerd food just now
and I feel like I came.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
Lastly, we should promote your your show, right because you
have a show, have a show Criminal Minds.

Speaker 6 (53:01):
I have a show and I'm also promoting my new
cocktail lines. Talk about Oh yeah, So I'll talk about
the cocktail line first. So I'm a big cocktail fan.
I love cocktails, and I launched just two months ago.
It's two months old. She's a baby, a brand new
line of organic ready to drink cocktails. They're super premium.
So the first one is a margarita. It's clarified. It

(53:23):
only has three ingredients, one hundred percent blue ever, Agave
Blanco Tequila organic organic, triple sec on organic line.

Speaker 3 (53:31):
It is the greatest gay margarita ever.

Speaker 6 (53:34):
It's called Losophy, like philosophy and.

Speaker 3 (53:40):
Just open the bottle, pour it in a glass, put
it in your.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
Face, and do you do a Moscow mule?

Speaker 6 (53:45):
Not yet, We're just doing a margarita. Margarite is the
number one cocktail in the world.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
It is the most cocktail.

Speaker 6 (53:50):
Can fine Philosophy dot com, l O S O p
h E dot com or come to my socials at
Asha Tyler. You can get it shipped to your house,
so no matter where you are in the US dates
we will mail you philosophy.

Speaker 3 (54:02):
All right.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
I know it's a long game.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
It was a long game.

Speaker 6 (54:08):
It took us about two or three years to come
up with this formula. If you go to my Instagram,
you will see that I tasted every single ready to
drink margerite on the market, which was a day that
should live in infamy. And then we hired we hired
three different citrus PhDs to help us develop this product.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
Yeah, Donald and I would were curious back in the
day about making something, and someone told us like, unless
you're just going to slap your label on something, it
is long, and it's expensive, and it's expensive.

Speaker 3 (54:36):
Yeah, but I cared about it.

Speaker 6 (54:37):
I mean, this is something I love so and I
felt like it was something that the market needed. Again,
I'm not curing cancer here, but if you've ever had
a ready to do margarita, they look like anti freeze
and they taste about the same, and most of them
don't even have to quila in them at all. They
have like malt liquor or neutral grain spirit and then
they add a little bit of tequila flavoring, sprinkle it in.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
And where do you fall on the price point? Are
you more of a high end?

Speaker 6 (55:01):
We are a premium We're we're a premium uh product.
The bottle's forty dollars, but there are twelve cocktails in there.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
So, oh it's a bottle you don't buy like one.

Speaker 3 (55:09):
Can't big ass bottle like this.

Speaker 6 (55:11):
Oh wow, So because it's so delicious, you will drink
a bottle in a setting.

Speaker 1 (55:16):
Donald Donald, because he gets better on ice.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
Yo, don't freaking get drunk, and yeah.

Speaker 6 (55:21):
Don't drink it's it's well, it's not like a six percent,
it's not like a beer. It's it's a real margarita
with ice. Enjoy responsibly. People listen to your show are adults,
I hope.

Speaker 1 (55:31):
Yeah. Well, stories we occasionally even though the show is
mostly are This has been a pretty tame episode.

Speaker 3 (55:39):
It was good. I thought I was being naughty.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
No, No, we've had We've had the Donald has made
us talk about dirty ship and are.

Speaker 3 (55:47):
Blaming it all on you. Donald.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
No, because we listen having sex therapists.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
Oh that's the best. We had a sex therapist song.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
Genus doctor.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
You should come back for the sex therapist and you
probably have good questions for her. She's amazing.

Speaker 3 (56:02):
She was a penis doctor.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
And she wrote these guides everything you need to know
about the vagina.

Speaker 3 (56:10):
And then she really specific title.

Speaker 1 (56:13):
Well, no, there were some guides. There was penis, there
was vagina, there's venus.

Speaker 3 (56:19):
I mean you can't.

Speaker 6 (56:20):
You can't pick them and be like, what if it's
about it?

Speaker 3 (56:23):
I'm not what's the subtext of this title? What will
I learn if I know?

Speaker 1 (56:29):
We sold a lot of those guides for that woman,
because people came up to me on the street, like
I bought anus. I bought an.

Speaker 3 (56:38):
I cannot buy on the street.

Speaker 6 (56:45):
Doctor anus transactions online or in an ad.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
Please all right, Comeel is cutting this, Joel doesn't. That's
nice to show, Yeah, Joel. Joel allows us to talk
about sex, about controversial.

Speaker 6 (57:02):
Typot controversial topic is when I was whether I was
going to fuck the DC universe or not.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
Yeah, no, I'll keep that. That was good stuff.

Speaker 3 (57:09):
We don't want to anger. We don't want to anger.

Speaker 1 (57:10):
Redit No, they're gonna love that. I should tell us
about Criminal Minds because this show has been going on
a long time. But this is like a spin off
or what.

Speaker 6 (57:19):
No, No, it's a continuation essentially, So we work for
fifteen seasons on CBS, and.

Speaker 2 (57:24):
Then how many decisions did you do?

Speaker 3 (57:27):
I did five?

Speaker 6 (57:28):
So I joined in season eleven and did eleven through fifteen,
and then the show ended there.

Speaker 3 (57:33):
And then I think almost immediately.

Speaker 6 (57:35):
They were like, wait, wait a minute, and so like
I think the show went off the air like an
April of twenty twenty, and then in September of twenty twenty,
we were talking about bringing it back. So it moved
to Paramount Plus and go ahead.

Speaker 3 (57:47):
You have a question.

Speaker 1 (57:47):
Why you don't have to raise your hand, it's your
interrupt you.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
I don't want to I interrupt you everybody so much,
you know, I don't want to do that. Anyway.

Speaker 3 (57:56):
He's been listening to the comments.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
Well are there comments?

Speaker 1 (58:03):
Don't comments?

Speaker 2 (58:07):
Did get Did it get canceled because of COVID? Because
it wasn't a bad show, you know what I mean?
It was it was still doing well. You know, I
know television ratings aren't what they used.

Speaker 6 (58:17):
To be, but you know, I mean, if I had
to guess, and you know, I don't know what was
if I had to guess, you know, it was fifteen
years of a show, all those primetime procedurals, you know,
we're on the part of the global downward trend of
all primetime television.

Speaker 3 (58:32):
And I think they were like, the.

Speaker 6 (58:33):
Show's better for fifteen years, Let's see if we can
try something new, And then I think they were like,
wait a minute, that's a massive global hit.

Speaker 3 (58:37):
That was That probably wasn't the best move.

Speaker 6 (58:40):
I mean, during COVID it was the most streamed show,
like you know, before this is phenomenon, we were the
most streamed show like globally for like all the twenty twenty.
So I just think they saw those numbers specifically and
we're like, oh my god, maybe we shouldn't have let
that show go. It was you know what I mean,
we weren't We weren't looking at all the metrics when
we decided to let it go. You shoot it in
We shooting a yeah, and we're just about to start

(59:02):
shooting Season three of Criminal Minds Evolution, which was season
eighteen of the show, and honestly, this last season, season
seventeen was the best season of that show period.

Speaker 1 (59:12):
If you need two corpses, Donald and I would love
to come.

Speaker 3 (59:15):
You're too sexy to be corpses.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
I would love to be a corpse.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
I'm not sexy. I'm not sexy enough to be a corpse. Hey,
I got to my shirt off. Listen, I got to
take my shirt off on television. I don't want to
do that.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
Well, we can see that you drown, you drown and
you bloated by the water.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
I like that, like the savage. I like that.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
I'm volunteering. Please tell your please tell your showrunner that
Donald and I would love to be corpses.

Speaker 3 (59:43):
What if you guys could be like twin corpses?

Speaker 1 (59:45):
Or bet we just want to find us in the dirt.

Speaker 6 (59:48):
Yeah, us in the dirt in a class that's exactly.

Speaker 3 (59:56):
No.

Speaker 2 (59:56):
No, no, I thought, face down and the dirt holding hands
is better, but.

Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
Okay, beautiful.

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
Sure, or I would think just spooning, like like we
knew the apocalypse was coming, so we drank arsenic.

Speaker 3 (01:00:10):
One hand on the other's face tenderly.

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
All right, you should be kept long enough. Thank you.
You're so funny and you're a great guest.

Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
My god, guys, this was so lovely. I love seeing
your little faces.

Speaker 6 (01:00:20):
I feel like the COVID made everything that before times
and like you have friends that used to see all
the time you have seen them out it come kind
or whatever, And I feel like I haven't seen I've
seen Donald within the.

Speaker 3 (01:00:32):
Last maybe five years, but I don't feel like.

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
It's the last time I saw you. I have a picture.
I have a picture of us from the I posted
a picture on Instagram the last time I saw you.
It's actually saved under cool people. I know some ship
you know in the circles and things like that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
That'sa that you did that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
You're a fucking dick each You're a dick dude. You're
you're Zach. You should go out and catch some dick dude.

Speaker 6 (01:01:00):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
You should. We have a sound machine and this is
one of the things on the on the nose.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
Eat these bowls, Zach, Eat these bowls, Zach. H that's real.

Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
I like it. That was because it was it had
a lot of.

Speaker 1 (01:01:18):
Flare, Like here's another one.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
Wu Tang forever, Wu Tang forever.

Speaker 6 (01:01:23):
How have you guys considered mixing everything into some kind
of like hip hop supercut.

Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
We need to do that, Daniel, why don't you make
a big bop? It'll be amazing if you did that.
What she just said and used all our sounds and
then it became like the bop of the summer. It
was bigger than they not like us. Like us.

Speaker 3 (01:01:42):
It's nothing, it's ever going to be bigger than you
could beat the margaritas. On one margarita, I'm a cact
d you you could probably beat you know.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
I wanted to say. There was a video I saw.
I don't know if for the Olympics or something, but
they're playing they like Us, and Steph Curry says to Lebron, oh,
I'm so sick of this song, and Lebron goes, what
I love it? That was just like it was like
caught on a mic, and Lebron said something like, there
are other songs, so I always got to play this song.

Speaker 3 (01:02:16):
That song is when we're old.

Speaker 6 (01:02:18):
When we are old, that is going to be played
in like fine dining restaurants, like right now, if you
go to like a white tablecop restaurant, all they plays
Biggie like I'm like it speaking and tu fuck.

Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
In this micheline story right.

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
Us for the rest of it, like an instrumental of
the listening.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
I knew it was a problem when they start showing
these little kids at the at their little dance.

Speaker 3 (01:02:41):
Place, all the little girls, which all the.

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
Little girls, and then now and probably ain't my.

Speaker 3 (01:02:53):
Crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
Now I have to go, my gosh.

Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
I know we have to go, but I just have
to say this.

Speaker 6 (01:02:59):
I was taking my mom to like an art exhibit
and with a buddy of mine, and so in the car,
my buddy just played the whole beef for my mom.
So my mom she's she's almost eighty, she likes jazz,
she's very hip.

Speaker 3 (01:03:12):
You know.

Speaker 6 (01:03:13):
She mom got a tattoo sleeve. So mom is cool,
but like she's not a hip hop fan. And he played,
he played the whole beef like in succession, and my
mom goes, well, Kendrick Lamar obviously one day, clearly.

Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
So there you have a kid. Rick Mama says he
won the beef.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
I need I need someone to walk me through it
one day.

Speaker 6 (01:03:38):
It's very enjoyable, and the insults are just almost as
savage as the stuff politicians work.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
On this car, any politician, it's a savage as that.
How about that?

Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
That's what just savage? Is that?

Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
All right? Check out Plosophy and Criminal Minds. And I
should thank you. You're such a great guest.

Speaker 3 (01:03:57):
Oh, it was such a pleasure, so nice to see
a little face.

Speaker 1 (01:04:06):
What a great guest. Holy, she's so funny. She touched
on so many topics. Joelle, I think that may be
one of your favorite guests.

Speaker 4 (01:04:15):
I used to ty, it is definitely an icon, Like
she had my job before I had my job, and
then she just paved away for a lot of us
to be.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
I was about to say, she's the original man, that's
the that's the blueprint, that's the blueprint, sincerely, bro, when
nobody else was doing it. It was her first. She
was the first one too.

Speaker 5 (01:04:33):
She had a lot of slaphomore, she had to deal
with a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:04:35):
Of I feel like I remember her getting in a
lot of Twitter beefs because you know, people didn't like
a black woman covering video games, right Joell.

Speaker 5 (01:04:43):
Wasn't that a thing exactly, and.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
They were calling her opposer and she was like, what,
I've been playing video games since I was a little kid,
Like I remember that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
Yeah, she's the og, Like for real, I don't think
there's anybody. I can't name anybody before her, but maybe
because they didn't get as famous as I think, not
like she had.

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
Yeah, that was funny. The second she realized we were
like an R rated podcast, she started loosening up. I
kind of want to do another interview with her, knowing
that she can say whatever, because all of a sudden,
you talk about catch and D and I was like, okay,
let's go.

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
Well, she's our cup of tea, you know what I mean.
She said something really very she said something interesting. You
know what I mean, because this is how a lot
of us learned how to act when we didn't take classes,
and we weren't you know what I mean, television and studying,
you know what I mean. Her Her craft was I'm
gonna go be funny on stage, and then after being

(01:05:35):
funny on stage, I'm going to go and watch what
I think is well, I'm going to watch something that's
going to put me to sleep, that entertains me. And
in doing so, she was able to you know, I'm
not gonna say mimic, but she was able to say,
you know, I could tell one of those jokes. I
know how to tell those jokes, and that's something that
a lot of actors study. Look, I posted this shit
on Instagram. I know it sounds really douchey for me

(01:05:57):
to say that shit, but Brendan Fraser talks about, you know,
he gives advice to actors and what it takes to
be an actor, and right now, it's really really really
really really really hard to be an actor, you know
what I mean. And I just think if you just

(01:06:18):
listen to what he says, it's it's it's beautiful, and
it's also uh, it's also very true.

Speaker 3 (01:06:24):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
All right, well, what do you got going on this weekend?
You're going to a basketball tournament in Anaheim? I am okay,
Well have fun. I'll just be sitting in my house
catching D's.

Speaker 3 (01:06:41):
You got that.

Speaker 5 (01:06:41):
Lovely gardens at Berry's the other name.

Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
All right, we love you guys. I'm not sure we
made about a bunch.

Speaker 7 (01:06:52):
Of he's a story. Oh so, gander around you here, up,
gadder around you here, up, spec we.

Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
Watch your miz a

Speaker 3 (01:07:10):
M hm