Real Friends Classic: 124 - My Last Day with Bill Lawrence and Christa Miller

On this week's episode, it is the season one finale! Kristen is back and she's ready to expose everyone's dirty little secret, In the real world, Zach and Donald are joined by real-life couple goals - Bill Lawrence and Christa Miller. They talk about the first year of Scrubs and the beginning of friendships that would last a life time.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
There he is very is how's it going everybody?

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Now? Look, Dan and Joelle have both changed up their backgrounds,
and you appear to have a dress case you might
wear today hanging.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
No, no, no, no, no, what's that dress for you?
It's not for me? First of all, hold on, how
are you?

Speaker 2 (00:22):
I miss you?

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Now?

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Well you don't because you started off with some type
of rude shit.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
You know what was rude about saying, is Casey gonna
wear that dress that's hanging?

Speaker 1 (00:31):
It's a very When I said she wasn't gonna wear
that today, you automatically asked if it was for me?
Right now? I am one who doesn't mind dress is
hanging in the background. You, however, seem to have a
phobia of it.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
I think my point was in the spirit your dress
a phobia, in the spirit of everyone changing their backgrounds.
All three of you have a new background, and you
do not know you're not drinking coffee.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
I've turned over a new leaf. I don't know if
you know this, but.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
It's time for another leaf. What leaf did you turn
over this morning?

Speaker 1 (01:09):
I've turned forty six? Yes, Donald, thank you, everyone, thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
This will get bearing late. Everyone, but Donald's birthday was
the twenty second.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
Yes, and I turned forty six years old. And I
want to thank everybody for all the love that you've
given me. And I want to say to all my
fans out there that listen to the podcast and all
of Zach's fans that listen to the podcast, it's working.
Come join the dark side. Oh yeah, combine strength, we

(01:40):
can rule this galaxy.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
I saw a lot of talk on my Instagram about
how everyone needs to follow Donald and some girl wrote
you need to help Donald get more followers because he
quote caught feelings or something like that. I thought that
was a funny question. Did you catch feelings?

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Who doesn't catch? I always catch, always catch feelings?

Speaker 2 (02:01):
You got feeling about it? By the way, your wife
slid into my DMS today because she was not happy
with the picture I posted a view. It's an old picture,
by the way, obviously, because we're lying on a chaise
lounge together and it's we're in quarantine. But Donald was
during one of his heavier periods and his wife slid
into my DMS to be like, why are you posting

(02:24):
that picture of top?

Speaker 1 (02:25):
She said? She said to me, she said, did you
see the picture of Zach posted I was like, yeah.
She was like, he couldn't crop anything.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
That's what she said. She said, you couldn't get a
friend he could out and do some cropping.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
He couldn't have cropped that. I was like, crap. What
she was like, your belly?

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Oh shit, well, I didn't know. I love you so much.
I didn't notice that you were in that picture having
a large belly. Time.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
He looked very handsome and thank you very much. Wife.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
Your wife was like crop that ship?

Speaker 1 (02:56):
Yeah right? And and and you know, I I think
everyone out there deserves someone like I have. I have
a wonderful woman who uh is very supportive and takes
care of situations that I might be a little bit
uh you know, apprehensive to no, no, no, yeah, you know.

(03:19):
Instead of me being like, well why did Zach post
that and get upset at Zach, I'll stay away from
the confrontation and the conflict. Whereas my wife's like, no, no, no,
we ain't letting that shit slide. What's what's what's Zach's number?
And she will call you on. She's like the mom.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
I know some people that are very gifted at photoshop.
If you want, I could, I could take off some
pounds from that picture for you.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
No, no, no, I like, I mean, I think all
of me is beautiful.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
I can extra, I could paint in abs.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
No no, no, I think I think all Like I said,
all of me is beautiful, even the extra. Just ask
my wife.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
You know, it's funny that we're starting off a little
bit confrontational because in this episode, do you remember what happened?
We got in a fight. We got in probably our
first fight.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
I don't remember when.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
This was during the lasso thing in the ICU fantasy
because I was pulling you too hard, told me way
too hard, and you screamed like a like no, don't.
I got hurt because you were fucking really legit yanking
me across the ground with your lasso.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
And you were like, don't pull me so hard.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
No, And then we got in a fight, and I
think the rest of that scene we're like not speaking
to each other.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
Really, you don't remember this.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
When I watched this episode, I went, oh, that was
like our first time we got in a legit argument.
And then we had to like do the rest of
the scene, I think, and we were did.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
We make up before the rap party? Because right after
this we moved to New York together.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
We must have dude. I think it was like a
few day TIFFs. We had a few day TIFFs.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
What have you been doing with your time? You went
away for a bit? What did you do the gallon?

Speaker 2 (04:59):
I went to Joshua Tree to get out to go
to the desert.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
Did you get out? Did you see anything? Did you
see rattlesnakes?

Speaker 2 (05:07):
We saw lots of bunnies. I think they're bunnies. Hairs
are large, right, I didn't know if it was a
hair or a bunny. I think it was a bunny.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
I think a hair is really large and bunnies are
really tin. I don't know, man, there's jack rabbits two
that are.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
Listen the puppy. Everywhere the puppy went, it was getting
cactus thorns. Are they thorns in a cactus? Yes? All
over its paws. So we didn't know what to do.
So we got baby socks and we put the baby
socks on the puppy. But the baby socks kept falling off,

(05:39):
so then we got rubber bands and tied them around
the top of the baby socks so their booties would
stay on the dog's paws.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
Did it cut the circulation? Off of the dogs.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Why not, idiots? Dude. It wasn't like super tight, but
we did it so the socks wouldn't fall off. So
then the dog is running around with four little babies
ox on because we must have done Oh man, there
was the the you can't bring a dog to Joshua Tree,
or if you can, you're more experienced dog owner than

(06:12):
we are. The dog couldn't figure it out. We couldn't
figure it out.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
Wait, so you took you you brought your kid on
vacation with you. Pretty much, yeah, that's what you do. Well,
you could have kindled the dog and then.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
No, no, no, well I don't mind a kennel for
an older dog. This is I mean, especially the kennel
we go to as like they run around and they're
and they're free and they're not like caged, and I'm
down with that. But but more often than not, I
would sooner get a house sitter, some a friend of
mine too, or my my assistant to stay here and

(06:47):
and take care of the dog here. But we it's
our baby, so we you know, you wouldn't want to
leave your newborn. It's like our newborn. So we brought
it to the Desert. But it was a mistake because
now I know in hindsight, they sell like legit dog boots.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
Oh, you need to get your dog some elevens man
some Jordan eleven and.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
That would be so funny. By the way, if they
made dog Jordan's, I would, or dog easies.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Yeah, well, I mean the easies might be a little
bit more expensive than the Jordan elevens.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
You know, dog easies would be hilarious. I would if
anyone makes those on like Etsy, I'll take them. But yeah, no,
they'd make legit dog booties. But we didn't have those,
so we we we jerry rigged some baby socks, made
a trick to a giant Walmart. We gloved up and
masked up and went into like the biggest Walmart.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
So what is the deal? I thought you didn't necessarily
need to glove up anymore.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
I don't. I'm just I'm just I'm just trying to
be as serious. You know, cases are spiking here in California,
so I'm trying to be as serious as possible.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
But is it okay? This is what I read and
I could be wrong, Dan Joell, please jump in if
I am wrong, and if I'm right jump in as well.
But I was under the impression that a lot of
the spike that we're having in California, this all could
be propaganda, are delayed tests that have finally come in,
and that we're testing more people than most states, and

(08:12):
so because of that.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
But the President is broadcasting that.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
No, I wasn't. I didn't get this from the President.
I got this from California. Actually, the president's broadcasting, yes,
that we are getting spikes because of our testing situation.
But California, from what I was told, was we had
at least from what I heard from Newsom and what
I heard from Garcetti and all of that stuff like that,

(08:38):
is that we had flattened the curve and we were climbing.
But we were climbing because more tests were coming in.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
Well, let's test Dan, He's very knowledgeable, Dan, you honor me.

Speaker 4 (08:48):
You know, we are definitely. Donald is certainly right that
as we test more, we are seeing more positive cases.
I think the measure of wearing gloves at places like
the supermarket, I think is not necessarily over as you know,
you're bringing your germs out into the world, and who
knows how many of those cans someone has already touched,
et cetera. I mean, I think all safety measures are good.

(09:09):
The best one you can take is not touching your
face before you come back and wash your hands and
yeah right, we wash.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Our stuff too when we go to the grocery store.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
Yeah yeah, I'm here.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
We we spray and wash everything down because you don't
know if someone with COVID took that off the shelf
and was like, oh, I don't need it, and then
you grabbed it exactly.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
Yeah. But the but from what I heard, from what
the CDC said, and from what a lot of doctors said,
it's not necessary. You can't necessarily get it from surface contact.
It has to be it droplets and airborne. From what
I understand, I don't know if that's true. I mean,
this is this is what the CDC is saying.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
I know, But don't be fucking steering our listeners wrong, because.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
You're like, I'm not staring anybody. I'm not steering anybody wrong.
I'm just saying what I heard. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
What about Djokovic. Huh, what about Djokovic?

Speaker 1 (09:54):
I know Djokovic got that ship, dude.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Yeah, because he's fucking partying with his like and doing
like sweaty chest to chest hugs.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Really do you saw this for you know this for
a fact.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
I read this on the interwebs that he there's video
of him raging at like some I think it was
a Croatian tennis tournament. And then at that tournament they
were doing like after the match, like sweaty naked chest
to chest hugs. Wow, and now he's out. He's about
to start a tournament, right Dan. Was it the French openers?

Speaker 1 (10:24):
I think so? Yeah, he can't ship. He got the
he got that ship.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
Now are they here? I don't want to upset Bill.
Are they in the room?

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Can't hear you?

Speaker 2 (10:32):
Damn domin Mic Ironically, the tech wizard can't figure out
his new fucking mind. It's okay, let's have a party.
It's the final episode of season one. Hey, I love

(10:57):
that she's representing Hi. How Charlotte Lawrence, that you're representing
with your Charlotte Lawrence merch always Now to remind our listeners,
when COVID began, Christa told Bill that he would be
She set up a guest room in the house and
she said, Bill, that's your office. You're allowed to come

(11:19):
out for lunch. But you worked there nine to five, now, right, Bill.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
Yeah, I'm not. I don't think she was even comfortable
to the idea of me venturing out to do this together.
So I still have to stay down in here.

Speaker 5 (11:33):
Well, Bill wanted to be in my office together doing it,
which would have been squashed and he would have stopped
hugged me, so I said.

Speaker 6 (11:41):
No, he's gotta go downstairs.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
We were hoping to get a stop hugg on this.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
Listen. I want to tell you that, Bill, this is
so annoying to me because it involves shit that you've said.
But they sent us, you know, merch options for the podcast,
and there's like one hug that says stop hug. There's
another mug that says five to six seven eight. I'm like,
this is all the fucking Bill's jokes.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
Here's the this is the real. I appreciate this. The
five six seven eights. I think that's funny and that
doesn't count as one, Dan, But.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
I am the boss of this show.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
We didn't even get into two minutes of the.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
Wants to be the first one to do the song
before the song so the but what but what bums
me out is that stop hug is a real and
cherished thing, and now it's a joke that's out there,
and I don't like that at all. I don't like
other peoplesh joking. Yeah, it's I think it's important in
our relationship, and I think that you secretly love it.

Speaker 6 (12:50):
No, I don't.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
So wait a second. Let me get this straight, Krista,
if stop hug was to go away forever, you would
be happy.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
I'd be good.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
I found myself. I found myself recently wanting a hug
from my girlfriend and when she was busy and I
kind of tried to do a stop hug and she
was not a fan of the stop hug because she's
she was making dinner. But I was like, mine, can
I have a stop hug?

Speaker 3 (13:23):
You guys can talk. You guys can all talk about
stop hugs going away as if that's a real thing.
But it's like a fake premise. They're never going away,
and they will they will always always be part of
my and my wife's life.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
Listen, you know you know who loves the stop You
know who loves a stop hug. Cobb loves the stop
really Yeah yeah, yeah, so I can get I mean
she she I take it back. There are times where
I'm like, let's hug, and she gives me the face like,
goddamn it, we just did that ship five minutes ago.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
But Donald, Donald, those are the best stop hugs man.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
That is when when she rolls her eyes right before
we hug, I am so.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
Excited thinking about it. That nothing better than when you
know for sure they don't want it.

Speaker 5 (14:11):
I mean, we can go into a longer discussion about boundaries,
but perhaps it's not something we want to address.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
No, I don't think people want to do that on
a fun podcast.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
I think you guys are a very adorable couple because
you keep it fresh. You have a little bit of
a bickery banter, but you very much love each other.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
That is true, Yes, and that was nice to say
a little bit of a bickery banter was lovely.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
Well, I've been on I've been on vacation with you guys,
so I know that at times it might peak a
little higher.

Speaker 5 (14:46):
And then I get and then usually when it peaks,
I get a talking to from Zach.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
Yeah. See, I'm like their therapists when we're on vacation,
I'll be like guys, guys, guys. Both of my parents
were therapists, let me let me do a little work
on you.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
To tag it. Hey Donald, belated, Happy birthday, buddy.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. I'm forty
six years old.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
Now you're a young looking man. Just to know that I.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
Will accept and receive that, thank you very much. Uh,
we had. I had a great day yesterday. The day
before my birthday was Father's Day. So I've had two
days in a row of just straight up appreciation from
my family, even if they were faking it. Even if
it was fake beca wasn't real, It's still warmed my
heart for two days. And I knew it was fake

(15:32):
when at midnight when I was like trying to, you know,
say good night to the wife, she was like, ah,
I'm going to bed, and I was like, I guess
birthday's over. Huh, it's over, you.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
Know how you know what you just said, even if
it fakes, even if it's fake, it still feels great.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
Not unlike a stop hug.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
Not like a stop pugg not unlike a stophug. I've learned.
I've learned to appreciate the annoyed because I know underneath
all of that there is love. So you know what
I will accept to receive.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Well, I want you guys to know the level of
Casey's love of Bill and Christa that I posted a
really beautiful shot of Donald and I today on my
Instagram and it was it's an old picture obviously because
we're lying next to you.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
Sorry, oh my god.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
And Christy is the Christa is the person in my
life who corrects that the most. And I'm nervous. I
find myself when I'm about to use the and me
or and I around Krista being nervous, be like which one.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
That's a hard one? That's a hard one?

Speaker 2 (16:35):
Christ has a trick? Christy, do you teach the audience
your trick? Because I never learned this in school.

Speaker 5 (16:41):
Well, if you're saying a picture with me, then you
wouldn't say with I right right now.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
But you told me. You told me a thing where
you remove the other person and you just and you
just say how you would say it if you were
just saying with me or with I.

Speaker 5 (16:58):
But you said, there's a cute picture of Donald and me.

Speaker 6 (17:01):
There's a cute picture of me.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
I see there you go, So I just removed Donald
and I go, there's a cute picture of me. I
wouldn't say there's a cute picture of I, thank you?

Speaker 1 (17:13):
But do you always have to go with Donald first?
Can you say there's a cute picture of me and Donald?

Speaker 6 (17:18):
No, okay, that's incorrect as well.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
There's a cute picture of Donald and me I put
on Instagram and it's old and Donald is a little hefty.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
And wait, hold on now, hold on.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
You are You're a hefty in the pictures?

Speaker 3 (17:31):
Unacceptable some of the.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
Some of the comments has said things like how many months?
Is Donald? That kind of thing? And I because I
thought he looked cute. I thought he looked adorable, Like
I know, I'm sure you guys have this as a
married couple. Donald, I have to say, like, oh, I
thought you looked cute. I hate that picture of me?
How dare you pose that.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
We have it?

Speaker 7 (17:52):
You'll look cute in the picture?

Speaker 1 (17:54):
Do I think I look cute?

Speaker 2 (17:55):
No, he's exactly I look cute.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
Yes, I think, of course, of course he looks cute.
That's why he posted it.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
Anyway, Donald Kristen would post a picture of me shirtless
and four hundred pounds overweight and vomit all over my
chest if she thought she looked cute at it.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
Yeah, it's like he is a monster behind them.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
It's like all of those it's like all of those
ladies that have the picture of them and the baby
and the baby is not even looking and it's kind
of like, you know, got woozy face, but they look
great and they go, oh, look at the cute little baby,
and it's like, no, you didn't post that for the baby.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yeah, it's like that.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
And Casey got mad at your ass or what.

Speaker 5 (18:32):
No.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
So Casey slid into my DMS and was like, you
couldn't have cropped him. And I just thought it was
funny because it was like a good wife looking out
for her husband's belly.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
It makes me love Casey even more.

Speaker 8 (18:46):
Man.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
By the way, that's that's another just idyllic couple. Donald, Man,
you found you found the right one there. That's a
fucking rock star.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
She does love me. Man, I'm very lucky we are.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
You're both perfect couples. You both are examples in my life.
And I'm not just saying this because you're on the
phone of of being the perfect ying yang for each other.
You're both couples. The men and women are very different
from each other, very different, but compliment each other perfectly.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
I think I.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
Thought it poetic that Kristal walked away during that.

Speaker 5 (19:14):
No, no, no, I just wanted to show Zachi a picture
of he took.

Speaker 6 (19:21):
Of Sarah Chalk and myself. That is so cute.

Speaker 7 (19:27):
How cute is that?

Speaker 5 (19:28):
That's from the bahamas'mas Yeah, and you took it with
my camera.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
We were just talking about this whole camera situation that
went on during the Scrubs run. Did you have Were
you a big camera fanatic before Brendan Fraser showed up.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
Krista, Yes, I was.

Speaker 5 (19:49):
I Brendan I bonded over the over cameras.

Speaker 6 (19:54):
But yeah, I had.

Speaker 5 (19:55):
My mom's third husband was a photographer. I was often taking.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
With you guys laughing because she's at third husband.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
Yeah, I was laughing because I'm uncomfortable much. Bill started laughing.
I was like, I've got a laugh too.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
So why do why people get married a third time? Like,
don't you just don't get married? You try it twice
and if it if it's not for you, just stop
getting married.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
Why can't you are their fourth husband? Now that one
took though, that one.

Speaker 6 (20:26):
Took, Yeah, no, yeah, that one's going all right.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
So continue continued anyway.

Speaker 5 (20:31):
So yeah, so, and I've always and then I stuck
to film because I think it's the most beautiful. And
then anytime I was modeling or you know, doing any shoots,
I would talk to the photographer and buddy up to
them and have them teach me tricks and techniques.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
With stogvery plus, Zach was a nerd. Brandon was Donald.
I never did it. You never did it.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
No, I never did it.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
We had we had Brandon on and Donald said something like, no,
we had Shay when when she had Chase Rano on
and we were talking about Brendan's first episode with the
camera and he Donald was like, why do I have
so many polaroid pictures of myself? And I explained to
him that Brendan got you and I into old school
polaroid photography.

Speaker 6 (21:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (21:17):
Yeah, and also Brendan got me, Like Brendan, I mean,
I've just gotten back in time with photography. My cameras
just are bigger and clunkier than they were before because
I used the old school ones. But Brendan and I
used to go into his dark room, hit a dark
room in his house when he used to live in California,
which I loved and I used to go over there
once a week and we used to sit in there
for hours, and it made me realize that Bill would

(21:40):
never let me have a dark room here because he
would never see me.

Speaker 6 (21:42):
I mean, I would just go in there for Wow.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
It's also hard to stop hug on the red lights
of the dark.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
I have a question, is it because you would be
experimenting with different exposures or or I mean, I can't
imagine that you take that many pictures that you're going
to just develop everything, like you know what I mean
after you look at the contact sheet?

Speaker 2 (22:04):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (22:05):
Like I know that some people go into the darkmen
and then they try to create a formula of dip
and all of that stuff where the pictures come out
a little different and everything like that. Is that what
it is?

Speaker 5 (22:16):
Yeah, there's great techniques to printing film in a dark
room that you are messing with the exposures and with
the shadows and trying to bring maybe a picture with
a little under exposed when you shot it and then
you try to fix it in the dark room.

Speaker 6 (22:32):
Things you can do digitally now easily.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
There was a lot of fun. It was a lot
of fun doing I got into photography in high school
because we had a photography class in high school and
I learned about the dark room, and I just thought
it was so much fun. Now, of course everyone just
does it digitally, but it was a really fun thing
to be experimenting with and doing. I loved it too.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
Did you three all call each other and say we
should make sure we start by talking about something that
Bill doesn't know anything about, so he doesn't talk all
the time.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
Know nothing about this. I know nothing about this. I'm
just trying to figure out how you know where it
all stemmed from, because Zach believes it stemmed from Brendan.
He believes that that was the beginning of more than me.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
Zach, No, no, no, Donald's not remembering one. I said
that Christa and I were both hobbyists, and then Brendan
brought the world of old school polaroids into our lives.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
That's true.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
I wanted to tell you that that Krista and Bill.
Krista knows they love cameras of all types. And I
went over to their house for Christmas, and I was
very excited about the present that I had gotten them.
I had found them these really really cool Japanese slippers
and they were they were cool. I thought they were cool.

Speaker 6 (23:41):
And then.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
Christa said, here's the present from me and Bill. Mind you,
I hadn't given them the slippers yet. And I open
it up and it is the most gorgeous antique medium
format camera that is like priceless and vintage and special.

Speaker 6 (23:59):
It works.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
Not only can you use it, but you'd also like
put it on your mantlepiece. And uh, and I'm like,
I'm thinking in my head, holy fuck, I bought them slippers.

Speaker 6 (24:11):
Great presence.

Speaker 3 (24:12):
Always thank you if it makes you, If it makes
you feel any better. I didn't know what we got
you until you opened it.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
That's funny.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
That's why you know what? Before we go any further stories.

Speaker 8 (24:33):
That show we made about a bunch of dogs and
nurses and janitor.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
He said, here's a stories natural.

Speaker 9 (24:45):
So YadA roun here yeada, herewies and now we're in.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
Now, we're in. Now listen. We've been doing this for
a full season. Guys. We we did not know this
would be popular, and it's so fun that it is.
But we could Donald and I couldn't think of a
better way to and the first season of it than
to have you two on. Of course, because you're both
so funny. And also, of course Bill, this is your baby.
And thirdly, we thought we might get you guys bickering,

(25:17):
which is always good radio.

Speaker 7 (25:18):
Yeah, always thank you and congratulations.

Speaker 6 (25:23):
I'm loving it. It makes me happy than you.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
I listen as a fan and I think, uh, not
only do I love you know, revisiting a show that
I like you guys, I've almost forgotten all of it,
but listening to you guys live out your friendship in
real time on here, it gives me great joy. It's
super fun.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
None of this would be possible if it wasn't for you.
So more than anything, thank you, man, please.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
Thank yous. We always thank you for the show, but
we we we probably never thank you for the friendship
that you instilled inspired whatever the correct word is. And
uh and that's that's that's the gift that keeps on giving.
My our our our love for each other was born
when when you thought we did the best job in
the audition room. Even though we know now that Donald
fucked up. I could be sitting here doing a podcast

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with dou lat Hill.

Speaker 7 (26:19):
I have a question, do you and Donald ver bicker?

Speaker 2 (26:22):
We were just funny, We were just talking that before
you guys got on Bill. You probably don't know this
because you weren't there. You were in the writer's room.
But this episode is one of the first times I
remember getting in a fight with Donald when we were
doing the stunt where he last soos me in the
ICU and pulls me. Donald of course got very excited
and uh and and pulled me like legitimately hard across

(26:43):
that floor and it fucking hurt and uh and then
he wasn't apologetic and we got in a fight, and
the rest of the.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
Nor a fight. We got into an argument. I would
have whipped your ass if you were to put your
hands on Let's give one, didn't.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
I didn't mean to imply that we got in a
fist fight. We got in an argument, and then the
rest of the episode we're like, the rest of that scene,
we're like, we'ren't speaking to each other. So that scene
has played out in silent treatment.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
Dude, what's the longest that we've gone without talking to
each other because of a fight. What's the longest? Oh,
probably a week, couple of no, a couple of months, dude.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
Casey, Casey. Whenever we get in a fight, Casey usually
becomes the arbitrator and works it out. She becomes our
couple's therapists.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
It's very interesting.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
I want, I want to be. My problem is I
think Christa could go years without talking to me, and
I'm always like I'll match her stubbornness, and I fold
after about six minutes. Please please, please love me again.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
I hate I hate being in an argument with either
a friend or a partner. I just like that that awkward,
like angrily making a sandwich in the kitchen. It's rowing
down the peanut butter knife.

Speaker 3 (27:57):
I don't by the way, you reference one of the
moments that I thought was really funny on the show.
Not to take it to the show, but that that
universal concept of not wanting to get in another couple's
fight and getting dragged back into it. And then what
I I since I watched all these having forgotten them too,
when I see you hand it to h Aloma to
nurse Roberts. Yeah, and she and she gets pulled back,

(28:20):
but much more comfortably on her back.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
On her back, I think, like on a skateboard or something,
because if you float, she's floating like several inches above
the girl.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
I think the grip made Aloma her own dolly. Yes,
Mahoma's not going to get dragged real for real by
Donald and uh and get in a fight with him.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
No, there's no silent treatment there. How how long would
a real fight between you two last? If it was physical? Donald,
do you think Zach even holds his own for a
couple of seconds?

Speaker 1 (28:49):
I think his cardio is way better than mine now,
so I'd have to hand it. I'd have to end
it quickly because if I didn't, I would get tired,
and then his little taps would trying into hard punches.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
That's bullshit, listen, Donald and I, Well, true, dude, we
used to bull true. I've never heard the expression bull true.
We used to get in play fights and you know,
just like you know for ten boxing, and I would
feel beaten up even by that within seconds, because it
was like I'd like throw a fake punch, then he'd
block it and then come with the other hand. I'd
be like, oh, I'd be knocked out by that. Let's

(29:23):
get into the episode, directed by Michael Spiller, who's always
one of our favorites, right, guys.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
Big round of applause for the season finale.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
Season finale, I didn't remember a bunch of this. Of course,
I remember it was Christa's epic monologue, which we'll get
to in the end. I didn't remember this mirror gag
at all.

Speaker 5 (29:39):
I I wrote that I didn't remember Christa.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
You look stunning, and I believe you're wearing a leather blouse.

Speaker 7 (29:47):
What I'm wearing. But where was the mirror? I don't
remember that.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
All I remember is that Scrubs was the one time
I was ever able to coerce you into having short hair,
because you know how I love you with short hair.

Speaker 5 (30:00):
Yeah, but you know, watching this episode, I'm like, do
I go with that?

Speaker 2 (30:05):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (30:05):
Yes? Yeah, well, yes, yes, you say that.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
I really, I mean, you look you look great.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
And all the ways, but I know not.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
Everybody can pull off this hairstyle. And I think you
look really good.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
You look so choppy and pc.

Speaker 7 (30:22):
Yeah, and a long short hair cut. It's like long,
I thought, I.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
Yeah, it's not longer than the shoulders, but it's it's
it's it still has a little bit of a flip.

Speaker 6 (30:33):
Yes, always like Donald, don't boys like long hair. I
mean Casey has long hair.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
Yeah, but Casey has long hair because she likes long hair.
It's not because it's not what I like, it's what
she likes.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
Not everybody. I don't think everybody can pull it off. Christa,
but you you, you, you show in this episode that
you can because I think you look great.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
You look amazing in this episode.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
And your leather I didn't know a leather blouse was
a thing, but you look great.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
I remember that mere thing. And this is what was
cool about having a show with fantasies is we are
trying to reprise the mirror thing from the pilot, and
then we knew we had to give everybody the backstory
kind of from the whole season so we could blow
it up at the end, and we just did it
by having them all talk to in the mirror really fast.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
Yeah, so you knew.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
Donald and Carlo were fighting, you knew that you hooked
up with Christa, Johnny C's wife, and we knew you
know that you and Sarah still had some shit going on,
so we tried to just get it all out there quick.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
Well, so you're saying, as a writing device, you kind
of wanted to brief the audience on here's where we're
ending the season, right, here's.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
All the things that we're going to blow up at
the end, some of which we aren't going to talk
about a ton in.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
This episode, right, And so you have to Bill when
you're writing, I think I know the answer, But just
for people that are aspiring writers out there of TV shows,
you kind of also have to remember like what the
audience knows and what they don't know, and even if
they're an avid viewer, they may have missed a week.
So is there a little bit of an onus on
you to just kind of get everyone in a headspace

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of knowing what's about to happen.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
There used to be there used to be. It's changed
with streaming television binging and you know now people do
things that they put and I love it because I'm
a fan. They'll put something in one episode and never
mention it again, and they'll come up in episode five
and if you're a fan, you're like, woo, that's binge watching, right.
And when when network TV used to exist, they used
to tell you, uh, your most frequent viewer watches one

(32:24):
out of every three episodes.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
I told you, I told you, Bill told us that,
I told you, Bill told us that last episode with
Shay and You and you guys were fucking clowning me
because you were saying that I didn't watch it. I
would lie to people, But Bill told us that back
in the day, you're most freaking and first and that
comes up to you and says, I fucking love your
show with maybe seeing four episodes.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
Yeah, so it's like a huge fan. That network used
to say a huge fan if you did twenty two episodes,
you say, a huge fan probably saw eight of them
that season. And then know that and then more than well,
that's when remember that's when your audience would be ten
to fifteen million people and you'd go like, oh, we
have four million that watched them all, and then six

(33:05):
million that watched ten episodes, and then a few million
that watched like three or four, you know.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
And so it's funny when I think back to as
a kid, to shows I love, like, let's just to
pick one, Cheers. I saw a fraction of episodes of Cheers,
you know, Like, so I guess, as I think about it,
I am that I was that way too, And it
was that sort of viewing.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
Yeah, and we're TV fans that ended up in this
business and that was us so and now it's that
that that that ethos is gone. Now you you assume
with these streaming shows that people that are watching them
are binging them if they like them, and you don't
have to make reference to anything you've done episodes before.
So yeah, we felt the always felt the burden to

(33:45):
catch people up.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
And Bill, another question is where was your head out
when we got here? I don't remember, and I wonder
if you do, how we how we were doing in
the ratings. Were you were you confident we were going
to get another season?

Speaker 3 (33:59):
Well, yeah, we were. We at this point we were
a very successful show, and uh, I was even expecting
us to be on After Friends, which we were the
next year, you know.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
And so.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
The we were just trying to blow everything up because
we had kind of done, you know, we had outlined
a year to get through their internship, and then we
wanted to go, let's not repeat it next year. Let's
blow it all up. Let's do them thinking that they're
becoming doctors, but remind people what's still out there. Elliott
still has a thing for JD. Jordan, whether she wants
to admit it or not, is still in love with

(34:31):
doctor Cox.

Speaker 5 (34:32):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (34:33):
He is obsessed with Carla for his own narcissistic reasons
Carl and Turk are considering getting serious in their relationship.
You know all that stuff.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
I have to admit you something. I have to admit
something to you, very embarrassing after twenty years. I had
forgotten that. And when and when when Christas says at
the end, admit that you still have feelings for JD,
I personally got excited for JD. I was like, she
likes me still, like I had forgotten because Sara does
such a good job Elliott. Sarah Elliott does a good
job of totally seeming like she's over it, like and

(35:05):
obviously I know where it goes in the end of
the show. But when you said that and Sarah gave
a look like you just outed me, I was like,
I was like happy for me.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
JD.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
Well, you know it's so weird man TV and the
fandom and you guys decide what we do in many
ways with your performance, because we did that Pizza Clock
episode with you and Sarah because we said we don't
want to do will there won't they? So Turk and
Karla are going to be the couple that's together for
the whole duration of the show. Will there won't They?
Will be Doctor Cox and Jordan and JD and Elliott

(35:38):
will have them hook up now and do that, run
the relationship fully through its course, and then we'll never
be back there again. But the second we did it,
people wanted it and wanted to track it. It became inevitable.
You guys had chemistry.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
So I mean I want that. I mean, I guess
I'm the typical viewer. I love a will there won't they?
I'm a sucker for that.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
Yeah, it makes great television, you guys. I didn't realize
that Cox and Jordan were the will they or won't
they until this episode. Really, when you see that Jordan
really does have feelings for it. Yeah, that was such
a vulnerable moment where she, you know, she first she
thanks him, like, yo, dude, first of all, thank you
for not pressuring me into having to, you know, go

(36:22):
into this thing tomorrow and speak up for you. I
truly appreciate that. And then his response and her face
and reaction to it all when he says, right, yeah,
it was like, well you could feel her pain, you
know what I mean, you can feel the pain like
she was with you know, she Jordan truly, you know,
as much as she front she still loves this guy,

(36:45):
and he's playing it. It's clear that he loves her
later on, but he's playing it at this moment, like
I know why you're here. He's oblivious, he's aloof he's
he's a he's a moron also for it too, you
know what I mean. You gotta get to listen. If
somebody shows up over and over and over and over
again for a booty call, dude, wake up and smell
the flavor.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
Man, this shit is real, right, And the first time,
for the first time, we see Jordan being vulnerable there, right,
christ I mean, she's like, you're like sitting even your body.

Speaker 6 (37:14):
Language, your life, I know, I feel small.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
Yeah, And you've got a blanket over you, you know, whereas
you've been all this, this sexually confident woman who's talking shit,
you're curling. I thought it was a good acting moment
for you as well. You were kind of curled up
and and you had a blanket over you, and you
were you were vulnerable because you were you were catching feelings,
as they say.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
But when when he said let's shake do you know,
shake it up? And she says, so you want me
to shake it up? That's when it was like oh shit,
what has he done? He has no idea, He has
no idea what he just did.

Speaker 3 (37:44):
Yeah, well, I like too, Donald. I liked a scene
with Sarah and Krista that Donald just pointed out because
it's it's cool when a writer that something happens serendipitously
that you didn't mean to set it up. But we
had done all these booty calls, and then we had
Jordan's say sex is for making babies and revenge and
that's it, and then Sarah. Then Sarah says, I don't

(38:06):
think you're getting a lot of revenge on doctor Cox
by showing up and servicing him, you know, while he
watches SportsCenter.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
Yeah you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
And to me, I had forgotten it, and your face
did it too. I'm like, oh shit, she likes him,
stinger fun.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
Let's take a break.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
We'll be right back after these fine words. Now, sorry
to jump to the Todd for a second, just because
he's we've been talking. Donald and I have really been
going back you guys and laughing and acknowledging that everything
that Rob Maschio says is funny. And we're constantly being like,

(38:47):
you know, we teased him a lot while we were
shooting the show, and uh, and now when we go
back and we watch the episodes, like every single thing
he does makes us laugh, including in this episode. He
has a lot of funny stuff when you when you,
when you, when you're asking doctor Wen, when you and
Carl are asking doctor Wen for help, and he's in
the background like doing all this stupid stuff.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
Yeah, and I smacked the glass on his face.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
And he's like, it didn't hurt.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
It didn't hurt.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
Also, I think he I think he speaks like monosyllabically.
What the Todd did bad? Still referring to himself in
the third person, and Turk very upset with him.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
Todd did bad. As a matter of fact, the Todd
did very, very bad, very bad.

Speaker 5 (39:35):
But do you know what Bill I noticed in this
show there are a thousand one line funny funny jokes
through the whole. Everyone has these hysterical one liners that ever.
I was trying to write them down and there were
too many, Like everyone has a funny thing to say.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
Aloma has the best one to me, you didn't hear that,
you didn't hear you didn't hear no, but.

Speaker 7 (39:59):
G this dude, Jesus.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
And then she sings, and then she sings the song
from Uh, the opening from White Man Can't Jump just
too Bufjesus Sanity.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
I also love that because I don't think we had
any song chosen and just it's one of the most
fun things for me, you know, on the show, or
the amount of stuff that were left into the hands
of the actors and actresses. So I know, she just
picked that and started singing it, which was fantastic.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
I believe Aloma was a religious woman, right, yeah, we did,
we did.

Speaker 3 (40:33):
We did bet that at some point, but I can't
I know, we wanted her to be from the start,
you know.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
I know the character was, but I think that as
I recall Aloma right is was so maybe she knew
that from church or something.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
I don't know. You gotta have her on the show,
by the way, you want to have her on her
showIn we want to have on our show. We've discussed
already bringing her in the second season.

Speaker 3 (40:58):
Yeah, she's a low way man. She's fun too. I
forgot what a big presence she was.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
We're gonna have rob on and and Uh, by the way,
it's funny.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
Bill.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
I don't know if you remember you sent out a mass
email to the whole cast about doing some event, and
everyone was like, I'm down. I'm down and down, and
then Ken Jenkins was like, oh, good to hear from you.
I'm I'm moving way too busy, and I was like
and I was like, oh man, we were going to
ask him to come on the podcast. But I'm a
little nervous now that Ken's gonna blow us off and
it won't in my heart won't be able to handle it.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
The thing that's going to make me happiest is when
you ask him to do it next year and he's
still miraculously moving. I'm moving, but.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
It's a bad time I'm moving.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
I know Ken, You're still moving. It's a long move.

Speaker 1 (41:43):
It's a long move. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
We want to have Rob on. Who else do we
have on Aloma? I want to have We were talking
about having all the stand ins on and like a
group one.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
Deonta's like Deonta. Deontay said to me the other day,
he was like, listen, when you guys get to the
one with the chimps and they're all dressed up as doctors,
you got it. I'll call in or whatever it is,
because I've got a great story. For that moment and
he told me the story and it is amazing.

Speaker 3 (42:09):
So well, oh, don't don't, don't take it from him.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
I'm not gonna take it from him.

Speaker 3 (42:13):
I'm gonna wait because you got to do that. And
then you also, I believe, if I'm not mistaken, that
Deontaey I see him a lot when people do the
clip of Neil Flynn saying his actual name, and then
Deontay I think, walks by and goes hey, Tony right
at the at the end of it. So he's the
reason that people don't believe that the janitor is Gwnn Matthews.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
Oh really really yes.

Speaker 1 (42:35):
So Gwenn Matthews is his real name.

Speaker 3 (42:37):
Gwen Matthews is his real name.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
Only you heard it right from Bill's mouth, guys, Glenn
Matthews is his real name. He just he just lied
to to Deanty's character and said he was Tony.

Speaker 3 (42:47):
Yes, And we decided his name was Gwen Matthews because
he was the janitor on Clone High and introduced himself
as Glenn.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
Ah, No, we had we had nelon I don't know
if you I did. It was hilarious and we really
kind of stumbled into a really good TV show, Bill
that we'd love you.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
To dose about idea. It's a great idea.

Speaker 3 (43:09):
And by the way, I will never waiver Bill.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
Bill, Bill, you don't want you don't want one of
your fellow fancy showrunners to steal Space Janitor. We're giving
it to you. Bill. Don't say I never gave you
anything as a president. You're getting, you're getting, You're getting
the rough treatment for Space Janitor.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
It's a multi camera in front of a couch Bill
in space, How can.

Speaker 3 (43:31):
You Space Janitor? And then another one I was getting
hit up about, uh, Sam Lloyd rips the Janitor and
Sam is a legal.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
Yeah, that's a great one.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
I also like we stumbled into a thing and that
Neil episode. By the way, Neil's talking about how he's
finally developing something on his own because he's always been
in other people's stuff and he's now collaborating with someone
developing something and I just sitting riffing jokes with him
for an hour and a half. With Donald, I was like,
I feel like we could come up with ten shows
because he's so quick witted. The other one we stumbled
into was a classic multi caamp sitcom, but it's a Castle,

(44:06):
and it takes place with with roy with old school
like medieval royals. So you just do like classic multi
caam sitcom jokes, but they're like in it's like medieval times.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
The Game of Thrones.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
Yes, it's a Game of Thrones. It's Game of Thrones,
but it's a sitcom. I'm in, Bill, I'm in. I'll
do as I'll do eight to ten.

Speaker 3 (44:31):
I still want to see you guys in some kind
of spies like us, you know, I know, weapon, some
kind of version of that.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
I said we were talking when we had Scott folly
on how how we really need you to pull a
jj Abrams and start directing giant tentpole movies because what's
his name, Greg Grunberg.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
Yeah, I heard that one of you guys.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
He's in all these Star Wars movies. Man, we need
you to direct your big tempole movies so Donald and
I can be in it and christ By the.

Speaker 3 (44:59):
Way, my wife just said, yeah, Bill is this is
this is the reality of my wife. My wife should
be somebody that would be in all of my shows,
and yet she's only in the ones that she picks
as that she deems worthy of her time and effort.
So much so that I will occasionally and she'll remain nameless.
Go there's a really thing. It would be really helpful,

(45:21):
you know if you did this part in this little thing,
and she's going, has the script changed and all since
the last time I read it, And I'm like, no,
why you're still no, but you're still my wife. I
feel like she's like pass.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
Billy. I would always do that, Like the first draft
of Christa's lines in the show would be would be good,
to be funny, and then like on the day she'd
show up like with Bill and like they had both
just been working together, and Christy would have like a
whole new pass. It was like a pass. She had
the ability that we didn't to go Bill up.

Speaker 3 (46:01):
My wife was on the show Cougar Town, and I'm
always telling this story. We'll get back to this show,
one of my favorite things. I always stayed on that
show for three of its six years, and I went
and did other stuff, and I remember telling Christa, I'm like, look,
you know there's other shows I want to do. There'll
be different showrunners and all that other stuff, but I
love you, and she's like, oh, she took it so

(46:24):
well that I was like oh wow, that went better
than I thought. And then the next year, like with
their first episode, I was working on a different show.
When I came home, there was a script on my
pillow with her lines highlighted, and just like she had
been she had just written things like change, beat, punch up, nange, Nope.

Speaker 7 (46:44):
Bill had told me.

Speaker 3 (46:45):
Bill.

Speaker 5 (46:46):
Bill said to me, you know, I'm only going to
run it, you know, these three years, and then it's
going to go. I just want you to know that
going in. I'm like, no problem, got it, no problem.
And then it was really the week you left.

Speaker 7 (47:00):
Ye.

Speaker 3 (47:00):
It was immediately like you're like, this works for me
fine because you'll still do whatever I want you to do,
which is how our life works.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
I love it. I would watch this shit out of
this sitcom, The Real Life Adventures of Bill and Christa.

Speaker 3 (47:14):
I really liked. I don't know why it made me
so happy. And take it back to the episode of You, Donald, You,
Zach and Sarah all coming in on that first day
being because it made me it felt real because I
know it was the last one we shot, and I
got nostalgic because you were like, can you believe it's
our last day? You know what? I mean, and it
felt very last day of school, and I looked at that.

(47:38):
I watched these shows with an odd combination of pride
nostalgia and then you know they're old. Being a writer
that goes, oh, man, I wish we had done that differently,
or I wish that was I'd fix that or whatever. But
that moment specifically made me remember what a gift it
was to have you guys all there and be so

(47:59):
tight and lovely and fun to hang out with in
real life. Just made me happy.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
Yeah, I remember feeling I remember feeling excited because I
think we all knew how well the show was doing
at the time, and we made it to the last episode.
It was the twenty third episode of the season. Did
we do twenty four the ID twenty four the first
year four? Yeah, yeah, we did twenty four. Well, we

(48:24):
did twenty three episodes that year, not including the pilot,
and I remember being like, holy cow, were a hit.
A lot of things in my life are changing now,
you know what I mean. I can't believe it. As
an actor, I did it. I fucking did it. All
my friends from home, you know, we're watching my television

(48:44):
show like it was the Cosby show, you know what
I mean, Like it was a different world or whatever
it was, you know what I mean. We came on
after Frasier, you know what I mean. Everything was really
awesome at that moment. And so when we when I
watched the scene, I remember feeling great about it. But
when I watch the scene, I had the biggest smile
on my face. And it's the opening of the show too,
and you know what I mean. But I had such

(49:06):
a huge smile on my face because you know, I
remember the feeling of it's a success. I'm a part
of something successful. I'm a part of something that people
really like, and I really enjoy the people that I
work with. And yeah, so you know.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
Yeah, we were I agreed, nown we were being genuine.
That moment is the three of us as close friends,
hugging and being like, holy shit, this happened. We just
did twenty four episodes of a show that's popular, and
you know, there was there was There didn't need to
be much acting. There that was that was that was
very meta, very genuine.

Speaker 3 (49:40):
Well that's what I got out of this man, the
gift of it. There's two things I wrote down. Was
one like how great Christ it was to have see
you in it, because not only are you my wife,
but you're so good, you know, and so funny and
vulnerable and such a badass in this I love that.
And then the one thing I wanted to say too
is my only other thing I did to reference with
you guys. You know, so there's weird parts of the narrative,

(50:03):
like how you guys keep trying to disprove that Neil
was a figment of the imagination and you'll never ever
bend me. He was figurative. He didn't talk to anybody.
I don't care what you think you saw. But like
one of the other narratives which was so interesting was
you know how Judy and I, you know, she would
always come in at the beginning of seasons and go

(50:24):
I can be you know, funnier and goofier, and I
would always be like, you're the you know, emotional backbone
of the whole show. And this was one of those
episodes that we earned. It was it's never one or
the other, like you already talked about it when Donald
is pulling Zach over to him when they were fighting
in real life. You know, one of my favorite things

(50:45):
is Judy's in the background and going you got him, baby,
you know what I mean, and immediately it which made
me laugh. But then what we wanted to do in
the show was a moment. Do you remember when you
two and Sarah, even though he had been your patient
for the entire episode, one of you knew what mister
Bober looked like. And then of course you hear Karla's
voice and she says, he's over here, and she knows

(51:09):
that none of you know him, and she's chastising you
without being judgmental. And she was the only character on
our show that could do that. You know, doctor Cox
to do that moment would yell at you and rub
your faces in it. Kelso could never do it, and
you three it was so weird because you three were
all kids to her still grown up, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
Yeah, I think it's a good example too. I mean,
obviously we're doing it about the medical profession, but I
think everyone can relate to just getting used to something
and getting sort of cold to it. And again it
gets meta for the show too, because Donald and I
can attest that then we got used to it. We
were on a popular show and we had this awesome job,
and you know it wasn't until it's over in this

(51:50):
many years back, we look back and go, oh my god,
not only did we have a great job that we
all love, but we were all so close, so we
all got along so well.

Speaker 6 (51:56):
And no, because you know what things become to your
new normal.

Speaker 5 (52:00):
Yes, so it becomes your new normal that you don't
treat patients the same way.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:05):
I always call it in writing because I'm never present
enough and I'm trying to be more now is we
used to call it a don't know how good you
got it? Disease?

Speaker 1 (52:15):
Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (52:16):
Because then then we're all off doing other jobs and
other shows and remembering how great those experiences were and
not saying that we didn't all enjoy them. But in
the moment, I was never walk around going, hey, I
don't know if I'm ever gonna work on a show
that I'm proud of with these people I love and
would want to spend time with forever and stuff again,

(52:37):
So I should suck in every moment. You know what
I mean?

Speaker 2 (52:39):
Do you? You've worked on nine zillion shows since Scrubs?
Is there has there been another? We'll exclude Cougartown because
your wife was on it has there been another that
you that you feel that you had anywhere near us
close to as much fun on.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
The only thing that is close, to tell you the
truth was Spin City, because this way you guys were
talking was my first experience and it had this very
weird thing that we can all hope for, which is
somebody that is a idol of yours growing up turns
out to be exactly as cool as you would want
them to be in real life, you know. And that's
who Mike Fox was, and so to grow up watching

(53:17):
his shows and his movies and then he's respectful to
me and kind and great and so that was fun.
But I didn't leave there with lifelong friends the way
I am with you Donald, you know, Judy, Sarah and
Neil and by the way, and John and Ken told
me not to say this when he was doing my podcast,
but Ken Jenkins.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
Too, By the way, did you did you go out
in the city with Michael J.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
Fox?

Speaker 3 (53:41):
No, he was when that show started. He was already sick.
And one of the you know, one of the first
things that you know, when I started that show, we
were taking aside and Mike and Gary said, look, Mike's
going to do one hundred episodes in four years because
he's sick and we have to do some production things
around it.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
And that early yeah, and.

Speaker 3 (54:02):
Uh, but still got to, you know, with the concerts
and dinners and blah blah, had some fun with him
and stuff.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
I was just thinking how cool I would feel walking
into a bar with Michael J. Fox. I would just
I'd be strutting like Donald and I in that in
that in that fantasy where we're strutting down the hall.
I'd have a pimp coat on.

Speaker 3 (54:17):
For some reason, I love that you guys did that again.
But you changed outfits right because.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
Because at that time I had gotten it was in
really good shape. So I'm like, I'm the shirtless one
this time.

Speaker 3 (54:28):
Well, I take, by the way, that's what friendship brings
to a show. And and Christa, this is you too.
The amount of stuff that you guys were generous enough,
and Christa Jenner from that you would actually say, are
doing real life names you would call each other, dynamics,
et cetera. That made their way into the show, and
the lexicon could only happen because of how close everybody was.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
Of course, and by the way, you could still be
writing it because if if this show was in the
modern era, Judy would be the one who slid into
my DMS and be like, why did you post that
picture at Turk looking fat?

Speaker 1 (55:00):
Hey, I don't want to I don't want to speak
out of turn here, So if I'm wrong, we could
cut this out and everything. But Bill, didn't you write
on Friends the first season?

Speaker 3 (55:08):
I did write on Friends the first season. Somebody got
fired and so I meme in. It was me at
the end, but at the beginning, at the beginning, I
came in and got to write on that show. And
it was such a joke heavy show and some amazing
talented joke writers, the main one being David Crane, who
created that show went on to create episodes, and he's

(55:32):
just such a good just a good writer. And I
got to know Matthew Perry a little bit, mostly because
someone made the joke that at different points in time
I looked like Matthew's fatter older brother, skinnier younger brother,
fatter younger brother, and then skinnier older brother, all depending
on the two of them. Christa, by the way, here's
the worst story about Matthew Perry. Wise relevant. Tell them

(55:54):
how I tricked you, and how it became a huge
issue in our life when Matthew Perry directed scrubs so inappropriate.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
Sounds really good.

Speaker 6 (56:07):
Want to hear that is not going to be told?

Speaker 2 (56:10):
Okay, well better it is better that it won't be.
My imagination is way probably more twisted than it was.

Speaker 7 (56:18):
I'll tell I'll tell a version of it.

Speaker 6 (56:20):
So I was friends with Matthew Perry.

Speaker 5 (56:23):
We were on the same lot, but I was friends
with him before we got friends and before I started
doing Drew Carrey, and we always used to play. We
used to hang out all the time, and we used
to play paddle tests together. I loved Maddie and we
were always friends. I actually dated a friend of his.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
I did.

Speaker 5 (56:39):
Matthew and I were always good friends, and we play
softball together, et cetera. So Bill, the whole time since
we started dating from a weekend, said are you Did
you ever fool around with Matthew Perry? And I said no,
we were just friends. And he goes, I can't imagine
that that you were just friends, because you know, I.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
Didn't being friends with him for six years and different
times been single on not once flown around.

Speaker 6 (57:05):
So so I said, no, we were just friends. No no, no,
no no.

Speaker 5 (57:11):
And then and then Bill would see us together and
you know, we were really good friends, and I would say, see,
we're really good friends.

Speaker 6 (57:17):
He goes, I know, I still don't believe you at all.

Speaker 5 (57:21):
And the week that Matthew Perry was directing Scrubs the
first morning, you.

Speaker 7 (57:26):
Know I work with me, I yeah.

Speaker 5 (57:28):
And I normally don't allow Bill to drive to work
to me because he wants to with me because he
talks all the time and I just like listening to Howard.

Speaker 6 (57:36):
Stern, so he can't.

Speaker 5 (57:38):
It keeps turning the volume down to chat about nonsense.
So I don't let him drive to work with me.
But I was first up, which you know, it was
early in the morning, and Bill said, do you think
it's going to feel awkward for matt Perry to direct
you since you guys fooled around? And I said, no,
it's gonna be fine.

Speaker 3 (58:00):
I pulled the car over and went, yes, you know what,
you know what you know I did. I let it
sit for like a year before that, having not brought
it up, and then I went, super cash, that might
be fun today. I'd be weird with him directing. You said,
you guys fooled around. She's like, no, it's not a
big deal.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
Yes, Oh my god, he built you did the long
play with.

Speaker 5 (58:26):
That long play, and I really stuck to my guns
and it was such a little thing, but he got me.

Speaker 6 (58:35):
It was too early in the morning.

Speaker 3 (58:37):
Seven years of a Last.

Speaker 7 (58:39):
Bill laughed the entire way for the rest.

Speaker 1 (58:42):
Of the drive.

Speaker 3 (58:44):
It made me so giddy. I was. I was just
going through all the lies in my head. It made
me so happy.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
All Right, we have a fan waiting, and we're going
to go to break first. And then also when we're
done with the fan, I want you to tell the
story about Bill when you came across George Clooney leaning
against Christa's trailer.

Speaker 3 (59:00):
I don't like that at all.

Speaker 2 (59:01):
We'll be right back.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
And we're back, and we're.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
Back, and Joel is going to bring in Joel. Who
are our guests or guest singular, our guest plural today?

Speaker 3 (59:19):
Emily?

Speaker 1 (59:20):
Emily is in the ladies and gentlemen, give it up
for Emily. That's my best Oprah, are you wearing scrubs?

Speaker 2 (59:33):
Emily only appears to have a deethoscope. Emily, can you
hear us?

Speaker 1 (59:36):
Can you hear us?

Speaker 2 (59:38):
But Dan has messed up again and we can't hear Emily.

Speaker 1 (59:42):
Emily, can you hear us?

Speaker 2 (59:44):
If you need anyone for your mediocre mixing services.

Speaker 1 (59:47):
I recommend stop it.

Speaker 2 (59:49):
I'm dpinning. I stop Daniel. I love Daniel.

Speaker 1 (59:51):
Dan, You're the best. I'm not even singing the song
for me. You're the best. No, you want to give a.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
Shout out if you if you're starting a podcast and
would like to only be able to hear some of
your guests. I can't recommend enough connecting's connecting on Daniel's laughing.

Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
Joelle is just shaking her head judgmentally at danis it
makes me happy?

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
In the meantime, Bill, have you ever seen the air
fresh Year that somebody made of me?

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
Oh my goodness, what does it smell like?

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
It smells like apple Teeni's yes.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
I would like to talk about the fear Factor conversation
because we mentioned fear Factor on this show, and at
some point in record and filming Scrubs, we developed Scrubs
Factor and we had a bunch of you know, and
and anyone could be a part of Scrubs Factor as
long as you were on in the Scrubs cast or crew.

(01:00:51):
And I remember someone eating hot sauce off of another
person's foot after Franklin after a full day of work.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
Oh yep, and I remember another one was eating pigs feet.

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
Yeah, pigs feet.

Speaker 3 (01:01:08):
Got a whole jar of pickled pigs feet and okay,
coming to them. By the way, Randall would have rounded
up anywhere from two to five hundred bucks, you know,
so it would be quick cash.

Speaker 1 (01:01:18):
Yeah. Listen, I'm gonna tell you something right now. As
an as an African American man, that shit wasn't hard.
Scott Harris, Scott Harris was the one that did that.
Who was another African American male.

Speaker 3 (01:01:29):
Yes, Scott Scott went for the pigs feet and and
won the cash.

Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
Yeah he would. He got the cash, and everybody's like,
eat the pigs feet and let me tell you something
right now, what that ain't ship. So he's just thinking
in the world.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
So you in your childhood, when you were growing up,
you would you would eat pickled pigs feet.

Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
No, so all right, so listen, this is where soul
food came from, all right, little education. When slavery was happening, Uh,
the slaves weren't given the choice meat, so it was
it you wouldn't get the the loin or the or
anything like that. You'd get the intestines and that's where uh,
that's where chitlins comes from. And you didn't get the
you wouldn't get the meaty part, so you would get

(01:02:08):
the hooks and the feet and everything like that. So
that became soul food later on.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
So what you're saying is that Scott Harris hustled us.
He acted like it was a big deal.

Speaker 3 (01:02:17):
I'm saying he acted like it was gross, and they
wolfed him down right.

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
And then afterwards he came up to me, he was like, man,
that wasn't ship. That was.

Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
On the other hand, on the other hand, by the way,
there's nobody that can get me near Franklin god Better's
toe way hot sauce on it. They had to suck
the hot sauce off the big toe after a day
of work.

Speaker 1 (01:02:40):
So after a day of work.

Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
Another one was wasn't there something about spending an hour
inside a closed Morgan drawer?

Speaker 3 (01:02:48):
It was a night you had to go. You had
to sleep at night in a closed More drawer. And
no one ever took that up.

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
That was there was That's a pretty advanced one.

Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
What about the young intern He became a pop barazzi
now and I uh, I believe.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
He paparazzo Donald Paparo. The singular is paparazzo.

Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
Thank you. He became a paparazzo and I believe now
it's a downer. He has a brain tumor. But he
was one of our interns and paint his face with
like marker or something like that and had to keep.

Speaker 3 (01:03:21):
It on for I can't I can't remember that. I
can't remember that person, and now I feel sad.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
Yeah, dude, he's sure this was Scrubs. It might have
been homiees Pimoni.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
It was definitely Scrubbs. I forget the young man's name,
but I remember it was.

Speaker 3 (01:03:38):
Like face he had to do face painting for the
day and something and keep it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
No, it wasn't even faces paint. It was like sharpie.
He had to he had to put sharpie on his
face and he did it, and he had it on
for like a week or something like that. It was
something ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
Let's get back to the episode for or second and.

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
Then last one, and then last one. Mike Schwartz trying
to eat twelve Krispy Creme donuts and failing.

Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
Bill like get hug from doctor Cox at three minutes
into the episode. Granted it was a sarcastic hug.

Speaker 3 (01:04:05):
It's a sarcastic one.

Speaker 1 (01:04:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
I wanted to point out that even Scrubs Wiki mentions
that JD does get a doctor Cox hug in the
season finale, we felt it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:14):
Never counted and we went back to it because it
was sarcastic almost immediately the.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
Other also left. I laughed out loud when I go careful, tiger,
I wish people would call me tiger.

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
Awesome? Were those Johnny C's shades we please?

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
We always talk about Johnny and I want to I
want to tiptoe around these Oakley's because Johnny C listens
to this podcast while he works out, and I don't
want him throwing the waist down on the ground.

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
Just to just to hold on, just to just to
start it off. John you are ripped in this episode. Yes,
let's let's first of all, let me just say, I
don't know how old we were. You in your forties
when we started this, in your thirties when we started
whatever it is, it's working dog, and I wish at
right now, at forty six, I look like you did
in this episode of Scrubs. Holy cow, dude, you are

(01:05:09):
ripped that being said was off with them glasses?

Speaker 3 (01:05:15):
All right, I'm not gonna say anything, but I can't
imagine a scenario that A. I said, let's not shoot
this scene until we get those glasses that I saw
a dude wearing on the beach in Santa Mona or
b that our wardrobe and props people laid out those
is one of the choices for his sunglasses.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
But for having them, those are definite Johnny's. We discussed
them before. I think they were his go to Oakley's
back in the day.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
But why orange dude, why are.

Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
They along on a guy on a jet ski? That's
all I know.

Speaker 5 (01:05:51):
Well, they look like my mountain biking glasses. Yes, they're
not for for regular wearing around.

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
Here's in sunglasses that you wear when you're driving to
make it so that you can see the road better.

Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
Bloot blockers. Those are blockers.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
I laughed out loud twelve thirty three. When I invited
him at dinner, he goes yeah, and then he goes
he goes together. I thought this was going to be
like a gift certificate. Oh whoa oh, I said, can
I buy you? I go, I go, can I buy
you dinner? And he goes sure, I go really and
he was, oh, you mean together?

Speaker 1 (01:06:27):
He goes, yeah, absolutely, and you go, that's great cause
I get off from like five minutes. I can't. He's like, oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Speaker 3 (01:06:36):
I thought this was a gift certificate type situation. No, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (01:06:42):
That's pretty funny. And he thought that I was going
to be like, here's a God individion for you to
have dinner or you.

Speaker 3 (01:06:48):
Or you could just you can just tell me where
you want to eat and I'll pick it up and
have it dropped off.

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
Now, let's talk about Colin hay for a second, because
Colin Hayes first time being played on the episode on
the show was here.

Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
Ma, ma, ma, It's a beautiful world.

Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
Beautiful song, beautiful world. And then he's actually in the
season two premiere bill did how did Colin hay come about?
Was it through christ huge huge huge?

Speaker 3 (01:07:15):
I got to speak for a second before Christa and
then she has to talk, which is not enough shout
outs for my wife, Zach, you were involved and Neil
was involved, but my wife on the show for what
it's worth. Yeah, no, I know, but I mean I
have it. My wife is always been such a key
person in me and picking music for my shows and
having a taste in it that kind of defines tonally

(01:07:36):
what the show is. And she had taken me to
see Colin Hay a bunch at Largo even before our
show came out. Go ahead, Christ, I'm sorry, interrupted.

Speaker 5 (01:07:44):
Yeah, So we had we had seen him at Largo,
and I loved him and I knew that he was
His music was absolutely the right tone for Scrubs, and
so we used a few of Colin's songs on the show.

Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
Him And then did you know he could act? Because
I think he had. He had been on the Larry
Sanders Show, right, Bill, I mean, how did you did
you know the idea to put him in the episode?

Speaker 3 (01:08:09):
If you it's again it's Krista. But if you have
a chance to see Colin at Largo, it was, you know,
half music and half him going going, I sold out
Wembley Stadium with a bunch of dudes, and now I'm
playing here for forty five of you, you know, and
then just making jokes at his own expense. And I

(01:08:31):
remember he used to say. All my old mates said
I should move to Australia, open a bar called the
down Under in Sydney, come out every Saturday at midnight
and play that song and I'd be a billionaire, which
is probably true, you know what I mean? And then
he'd just tell jokes and stories about that time of
the show is so funny.

Speaker 5 (01:08:48):
Do you want to hear what else is funny about
Colin Hey? So, my uncle for two years used to
produce Satura Night Live, and I used to go in
high school to watch the musical acts like six o'clock
on a Saturday. And then Colin hay Meant at work
played Saturday Night Live, and then we hung out with

(01:09:10):
him afterwards. He was a perfect gentleman, wasn't he like that?
But we all hung out with him afterwards. And then
when he did the show, he said to me, your
uncle gave me a chance and was so kind to
me on Saturday Night Live, and it kind of came
full circle and he was excited to see me again,
and that's cool.

Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
That's cool. I was going to see him at years
of you.

Speaker 1 (01:09:31):
I went with you dude.

Speaker 2 (01:09:32):
Are those of who don't know Largo is a small,
very small music venue. Since changed, they probably made it bigger,
but back in the day when we were going, I
don't know, it would hold maybe one.

Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
Hundred people, yeah, I think less than that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
Yeah, if that, maybe less than that or maybe sixty.
And it was a bar and they served food and
lots of comedians would would would be there and musicians
would be there, and it was a really cool community.
And I hadn't heard Colin since he was in Men
at work when I was a kid. And then he
and we just play his songs acoustically, just him and
a guitar, and it was so beautiful because his voice

(01:10:05):
is so incredible, and he would do some covers of
Minute Works songs and then he would do a lot
of his his own songs, his new songs, like Beautiful
World that's in this episode. And I just don't think
I'll ever get over you, which I ended up putting
in Garden State, But I remember that he was very
funny in the episode, and I just, uh, I just
wondered where you got the idea to actually put him

(01:10:25):
physically in the show. But there it is from Largo.

Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
He has some good ones.

Speaker 10 (01:10:29):
And then I just don't think I ever get over you.
I drink coffee every morning, comes from my place.

Speaker 1 (01:10:40):
That's fun.

Speaker 3 (01:10:40):
By the way, in the history of your podcast, people
are gonna be like, when did it go downhill? And
they're gonna go when Zach and Donald decided just to
have it be them singing favorite songs of theirs everything.

Speaker 2 (01:10:51):
That's kind of what it is already. That's kind of
although I always duck out because Donald has such a sultry,
beautiful voice.

Speaker 3 (01:10:58):
Such a good voice. Yeah, I gotta say, since we're
doing go ahead, Donald.

Speaker 1 (01:11:01):
Sorry, I do love me some Colum hey though, man,
I just he's.

Speaker 7 (01:11:05):
Such a lovely man as well.

Speaker 3 (01:11:07):
Yes, I didn't know if we're the show thing yet
that I can give my both positive and bone chilling
reaction to Donald already said. You know when doctor, when
Johnny c says, why don't you stir some things up?
When she comes to that table of all you happy
people at the end and decides to rip our show

(01:11:28):
apart for the next year, it gave me such glee
both to watch how it was performed and how it
affected every relationship, but also because you guys are also
close in many ways to your you know, your spirits
and your personas in real life. It gave me chills
because I've had I've been one of the people sitting
at that table before with my sons when my wife
comes in and says that, He's like, let me, let

(01:11:50):
me talk to you guys about the behavior yesterday when
you just get small and just immediately have the By
the way, I think Zach's voiceover says uh oh, but
the uh uh. I've had so many of those, and
it was so cool to watch you do it, my love.
He was so good.

Speaker 2 (01:12:08):
Yeah, you did a great job without that monologue. Do
you remember did you work a lot on that or
did you just wing it? I mean, obviously I remember.

Speaker 5 (01:12:16):
You know what you guys probably don't remember is that
that scene was shot on a Wednesday, and we did
Drew Carry on a Tuesday night, and for some reason
there was a mess up and I didn't get the script.
I was doing Drew Carrey late and I didn't get
the script for the what that monologue was till midnight,
and I.

Speaker 6 (01:12:36):
Was so mad at Bill.

Speaker 5 (01:12:37):
I was like, why didn't they deliver me the script early?
But it builds like it was out since seven, So
I was insane, And then so I had to learn
it and Drew went really late that night. I remember
being so annoyed, and I was first up, so I
had about five hours of sleep, and I didn't know
it that well, and I had only you know, I
was in the regular, so I'd only done one or

(01:12:59):
two episodes with you guys that season.

Speaker 1 (01:13:02):
No, this is like your fourth episode, so.

Speaker 7 (01:13:03):
Fourth maybe not a lot though, And I came in.

Speaker 5 (01:13:06):
I had this monologue and you guys and I kept
messing up the lines and I started getting into a
shame spiral, and it was Donald.

Speaker 6 (01:13:16):
You were like, you got this. You've already done it.

Speaker 7 (01:13:20):
You got it.

Speaker 5 (01:13:20):
You were so kind to me. Donald, you probably don't remember.
And I was like, you were like, take a deep breath,
you got it. You've done it already. You're just now
getting into your head.

Speaker 1 (01:13:32):
I was just telling you all of the stuff that
they would tell me all year round.

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
He was just regurgitating all the shit people had said
to him.

Speaker 3 (01:13:43):
By the way, you know what part of it was too,
my love is. I remember because you were working on
a show as a regular in which you had two
tries to get it start to finish, you know, because
it was multi caam and I remember all of us
trying to tell you, no, you've never done it the
way you want from the beginning to the end. But
you've done every part the way you want, you know

(01:14:04):
what I mean. And then we're gonna cut and you
really made you upset.

Speaker 7 (01:14:06):
I remember that now, Yeah, But then we got it
in one take.

Speaker 5 (01:14:09):
And then I also thought, this single camera is different,
like I had to do a different way of having
to learn things.

Speaker 6 (01:14:17):
But I you know, And also it doesn't matter. I
realized when you get.

Speaker 5 (01:14:20):
There, no one cares that you're working on another show
and you were up till one in the morning. Everyone
just expects you to know it and be great all
the time. And it was just a good It was
a good lesson for me, and I love Also that
monologue was so good.

Speaker 6 (01:14:34):
I didn't want to mess it up.

Speaker 2 (01:14:36):
I think you did a great job. I think it's
a great way to It was a really clever way
to end the season too, Bill, because you know, you
can't you have to have some sort of cliffhanger. And
and the whole episode is that we're all working as
a team, and you've got this montage set to Colin
Hey where we're all coming together and solving a problem.
It's like, you can't end a season like that. You've
got to You've got to blow it up and uh.
And then I thought that was really clever, how you

(01:14:58):
had just Chris to just come in and just fucking destroy.

Speaker 3 (01:15:00):
Everybody, dismantle at all.

Speaker 2 (01:15:02):
My favorite part was that I wrote it down. Apparently
JD is very good in bed that had not been
disgusted yet. Oh boy, no, you know, because we didn't
see our love.

Speaker 3 (01:15:13):
Be careful, be very careful.

Speaker 1 (01:15:15):
Boy. Listen, dude, you know how to make it uncomfortable characters.

Speaker 7 (01:15:20):
It was so good, that's.

Speaker 1 (01:15:21):
What you say.

Speaker 3 (01:15:24):
These guys at Krista, they've already done a thing of
joking around that. I like watching you kiss other people,
which I do not. I don't know. Don't make by
the way, don't make that expression. Even though people can't
see this, don't make the expression. Don't don't don't you
were By the way, I'm a second away from spreading

(01:15:45):
up there for a stop hugging big.

Speaker 2 (01:15:48):
You're not allowed out till five. You're not allowed until five.

Speaker 7 (01:15:51):
True, that's a good point.

Speaker 2 (01:15:52):
I pictured there's like a bike lock on the outside
of the door, and Crystal unlocks it at four fifty nine.

Speaker 3 (01:15:59):
You know what, also, but changing the subject that that
moment never happened. You can edit that out. I'm sure
it's gone. The uh I liked after you gave your speech,
And I haven't given enough props to Johnny C and Ken.
First of all, Johnny C's ability to make intense anger
seem immediately real. I found myself intimidated even and couldn't

(01:16:20):
imagine what it was like. You know, Donald, you and
Zach had to do it all more than anybody to
act in the face of that fury. Yeah, I mean
when he oh, my goodness, it's so loud and so
not TV anger. That and I contrasted that to this
was the beginning of one of the things, you know,
when I say I watched the show and dislike stuff

(01:16:42):
and love other stuff. Ken Jenkins as a man was
so funny and not just the personified villain, you know,
And one of the first things that got us there
because he starts changing in the second year. He goes
to speak to Johnny C after that speech, and it
does the biggest car, the biggest cartoons spin around, and

(01:17:04):
it's so funny, and I'm like, oh, man, dude, is
funny and we should let him be human and quirky
and weird.

Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
I wish he'd come on the show. But he's always moving.

Speaker 3 (01:17:15):
He's still moving.

Speaker 1 (01:17:16):
He's still moving while we didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:17:18):
Maybe he didn't runt a truck and he's just just
doing it by hand.

Speaker 1 (01:17:21):
While we have you here, Bill, here's a question that
all of the fans are asking us, you know quite
a bit, and I know it has a lot to
do with schedule or anything like that, but if you
could ever see another incarnation of Scrubs, what would be
your dream or your if you had to do it,
what would how would you like to see Scrubs revisited?

Speaker 3 (01:17:45):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
Didn't write to it?

Speaker 3 (01:17:48):
Yeah, Yeah, I love the characters so much. And I
think one of the things that we tried to do
on that show is it was an era in which
on the sitcoms I grew up with, everybody stayed the
exact same from episode one to episode two hundred, and
I like to feel that people grew and aged and matured,

(01:18:11):
and so, you know, like it's it's at one point,
by the way, Zach and Donald Christo were constantly pitching
me that maybe we should just go shoot Doctor Acula,
and which would, which would be fun. Admittedly, the two
of them making that movie and I think it'd be hilarious,
But man, I'd love to see who JD was as

(01:18:32):
an adult and a father, and who Donald, you know,
was with Judy and with their kids. And I just
would want to visit with these people again. That's why
I find the idea of doing a whole other series daunting,
But the idea of visiting with them and seeing where
their lives are at and seeing, you know, how they

(01:18:54):
react to medicine. I'll tell you the example for it
is real JD. Okay, not many will know this, but
the real JD was a young cardiologist when we started
the show. Then he became a heart surgeon and a cardiologist,
and then he became so beloved by the interns and residents.
He became a huge teaching figure and ultimately the CEO

(01:19:16):
of the Kelso of the hospital. He runs the whole
hospital of Kaiser in Los Felis, and in fact is
running their COVID command center now. And the fact that
he has gone from the beginning to that very same
kind of patriarchal figure that you guys needed. I'd love
to see j D and Turk. Doing that for other
young people, I would hope that they'd still love medicine.

(01:19:38):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:39):
Emily is here, Emily here, it is working.

Speaker 11 (01:19:43):
I am so so sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:19:45):
Don't worry about Emily.

Speaker 3 (01:19:46):
It's not you, miss Emily.

Speaker 1 (01:19:49):
Emily, Emily, Emily, I'm going to be honest with you. You
are worse than Sarah, but we are still very excited
about show.

Speaker 2 (01:19:59):
Sarah had two tries and and mess them both up,
whereas Emily is just joining us for the first time.

Speaker 1 (01:20:04):
Emily, Emily, you blew it. But it's okay. I'm gonna
give you the speech that Bill gave me. I need
you to come in here and bring the energy that
you were going to bring the first time.

Speaker 2 (01:20:17):
That is a callback. That's a callback to Donald's first audition.

Speaker 11 (01:20:21):
Thank goodness.

Speaker 2 (01:20:22):
All right, go ahead, Emily. What's your question? You have
Bill Lawrence, you have Krista Miller, Donald Faison, and myself,
Zach Brae and.

Speaker 12 (01:20:30):
I all right, so I had I didn't know that
Bill and Krista were going to be on originally, so
I changed my question a little bit.

Speaker 11 (01:20:39):
Okay, And since I think you.

Speaker 12 (01:20:41):
Guys are talking about the season finale, which talks about
like all the impact that the characters had.

Speaker 1 (01:20:48):
I'm sorry to cut you off. I'm sorry to cut
you off. I have to cut you off. I'm sorry.
You have a stethoscope on? Is that a stethoscope?

Speaker 11 (01:20:56):
Nope, this is my braid. But this is my name
badge with.

Speaker 1 (01:20:59):
Myll Okay, are you a doctor or are you I'm not.

Speaker 11 (01:21:03):
I'm a EMT phlebottomist. Combo. I'm calling from the office
right now. I'm hiding in the break room.

Speaker 3 (01:21:10):
That's awesome. Thank you so much for all the stuff
you do.

Speaker 11 (01:21:13):
I've got surgeries going on through the other door.

Speaker 1 (01:21:17):
Oh my god, that is amazing. First of all, thank
you very much.

Speaker 11 (01:21:21):
Oh, thank thank you guys. You guys inspired me.

Speaker 2 (01:21:24):
Oh that's right off here, but sorry.

Speaker 12 (01:21:26):
That's actually part of my question is I'm I'm going
to use the just because I'm not a doctor or
nurse yet, so I'm just an EMT flebottomist. But have
you guys heard from other fans any amazing stories where
they said that you got your show inspired them.

Speaker 11 (01:21:44):
And that's for all four of you.

Speaker 2 (01:21:47):
I'll go first. Yeah, all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:21:49):
I will.

Speaker 2 (01:21:50):
I will encounter nurses and doctors and paramedics and EMTs
who say Scrubs was the thing that that got them
into it. Some say they had no interest before and
Scrub and Scrubs and the camaraderie and all the adventure
made them want to do it. And then some say
they were thinking about it and Scrubs put them over

(01:22:10):
the edge. But yeah, I mean, throughout my life there's
been lots and lots of people and sometimes I'll be
walking along the street and people be like, they'll do
a doubt take because they're excited to see me, and
I go to talk to him, like we'd weird doctors.
We just graduated in bed school and we'd scrub is
our favorite thing. So it's such a good feeling. I mean,
to the fact that we could have inspired anybody is

(01:22:32):
a really really good feeling. I'm sure you guys have
had the same experience.

Speaker 1 (01:22:35):
Right absolutely. That's also why we you know, we did
the podcast. Also, this is this isn't just for the
fans of Scrubs. This is also for everyone out there
in the medical community, you know what I mean. Just
the respect and the love that we have for all
of you guys is immense. And so you know, when
we we were on a show that was a love

(01:22:57):
letter to everybody in that community as well. And so
this is all about y'all. So if it inspires anyone,
if it makes anyone, if it makes anyone feel like
they want to get into medical it makes me happy
that I was a part of something that, you know,
has turned people's lives around. You know, I didn't know

(01:23:17):
what I wanted to do. Then I saw Scrubs, and
now I'm a doctor or now i'm you know, I
work in the medical profession. So absolutely, it happens all
the time, and I'm very I'm I'm very proud that
I was on something like this that's reached out and
touched so many people.

Speaker 2 (01:23:36):
What about you, guys, Bill end or Christa.

Speaker 5 (01:23:38):
I always you know, well, Bill, if he sees a
new doctor or has to get his tooth pulled, it's
the first thing he drops right.

Speaker 7 (01:23:51):
That comes out fast, like he just gets.

Speaker 3 (01:23:53):
It fast, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:23:55):
Scrubs.

Speaker 5 (01:23:57):
I often have people say to me, doctors and nurses
will say that Scrubbs was the first show that they
felt accurately portrayed what it's like to be an intern
in a resident you know, in terms of all the
stories that you guys did and the and the reality
of how hard it was now tiring, et cetera.

Speaker 2 (01:24:18):
And Bill didn't the AMA come out and say we
were the most accurate show.

Speaker 3 (01:24:22):
They did. They said, we're the most accurate medical show.
And first of all, Emily, thanks for doing what you do.
That's super cool. And secondly, you know it's really weird.
We're gonna I'm sure we'll talk about all this stuff
too on other podcasts, if you ever nice enough to
have me and or Krista back, or Emily back, or
on Emily's podcast. But when you're involved in creating something

(01:24:45):
and it's been years, if you're in you know it's
even presumptionous to call yourself an artist. You look at
these things and you go, here's what I got right,
Here's what I got wrong, Here's what I wish I
could fix, Here's what I wish I could change. And
the one thing that I thought we got right top
to bottom, actors, directors, everybody else was because of the

(01:25:06):
real JD said, We're allowed to do as many jokes
as we want, as long as you make it clear
how much the doctors and nurses truly care and how
much they will give everything for patients. And the fact
that the AMA this year. You know, however, many years
after we wrapped twenty year anniversary of the Start whatever,

(01:25:26):
it was asked all of you guys to do their
graduation since their graduations got canceled for all the new
young doctors. Meant so much to me that you guys
are still part of the lexicon of young people, you know,
who aren't going into medicine anymore to be wealthy like
the old cliches. They're going into it to be of
service and to do something really important. That's probably the

(01:25:48):
best thing I'll take from this show, and that's why
it's so cool to talk to people like Emily.

Speaker 1 (01:25:53):
Hey, Emily, it seems like you have a lot of
people in the room with you. Want to turn the
thing around.

Speaker 2 (01:25:57):
Let's know, she got called into surgery.

Speaker 11 (01:25:59):
They were like, we need you on the doors saying
do not disturb.

Speaker 1 (01:26:03):
Let him come in, come in, them in and let.

Speaker 11 (01:26:08):
Them to doctors and a nurse just walk in and
they're like.

Speaker 1 (01:26:11):
Guys, no, are they out there in the hall right now?
Are they in the hall? Tell them to come in?

Speaker 2 (01:26:16):
No, don't, don't, yes, yes.

Speaker 1 (01:26:19):
Sa I want to say, dude, man should be the
freaking Queen of the freaking.

Speaker 12 (01:26:24):
Are okay, guys, the Scrubs podcast wants to see you all.

Speaker 1 (01:26:33):
There's a lot of y'all right about.

Speaker 10 (01:26:37):
To say.

Speaker 11 (01:26:39):
Yes, that's that's part of my clinic.

Speaker 3 (01:26:43):
That's very cool.

Speaker 2 (01:26:44):
In my mind. Emily, they were like, we need you
stat he's coding, and you were like, shut up, I'm
on the podcast.

Speaker 11 (01:26:49):
The fact that that hasn't happened yet.

Speaker 2 (01:26:53):
All right, do you have another question for us? Emily?

Speaker 11 (01:26:55):
I do, and it's a little sillier.

Speaker 2 (01:26:58):
Go ahead, all right?

Speaker 11 (01:26:59):
So, knowing how big of lame is fans, you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:27:02):
Are, yes, except for Christa?

Speaker 3 (01:27:04):
Going except for Christa.

Speaker 12 (01:27:08):
Or maybe musicals in general, not in any Broadway play
or production? Which character and which play?

Speaker 3 (01:27:19):
Oh, I would be Jean Valjean, you know. But I'm
not getting excluded, and I would be Jean Valjean. But
I would do it in Paris because I would sing
it all on pog con do porcevetu. That's Wames and French.

Speaker 2 (01:27:35):
That's the only person I know that can sing pieces
of lame as in French.

Speaker 1 (01:27:38):
Donald, Who would you be if I could be anyone
in any Broadway show? Wow? You know the one musical
that I loved growing up was Mary Poppins, and we
were very lucky to have Dick Van Dyke on the
on Scrubs uh for one episode. So if I could
be any character that he played on Broadway, I would

(01:27:59):
love to be Bert from Mary Poppins.

Speaker 3 (01:28:01):
You'd kill it, kill it.

Speaker 1 (01:28:03):
I would love that.

Speaker 2 (01:28:04):
That would be even do that.

Speaker 1 (01:28:05):
I'd even do the fake accent and everything. I'd suck
up the accent on purpose. Oh Mary Pulpins.

Speaker 3 (01:28:14):
There.

Speaker 2 (01:28:15):
But yeah, Christy, you would go if Donald started Mary Poppins.

Speaker 1 (01:28:18):
I really, I would call you every day and be
like Christa, I got a ticket for you.

Speaker 2 (01:28:22):
Christy, didn't you come to my Broadway musical?

Speaker 3 (01:28:24):
Yes, you'd go for Donald?

Speaker 7 (01:28:26):
I did. I would go for Donald, But why are
you guys pressuring me?

Speaker 1 (01:28:30):
This would be one of those things where I pressure you,
so I'd be like, yo, come on.

Speaker 5 (01:28:33):
I realised I would go for Donald. I wouldn't. I'd
be mad at him after.

Speaker 2 (01:28:40):
I'm probably too old to do it now. I'm not sure,
but I always wanted to do Annie as Annie, and
I'm not sure if it's too late, but maybe.

Speaker 3 (01:28:53):
See if zach ar Donald or christ can finishes Emily.
One of my favorite lines from a secondary character on
the show was, Uh, Nurse Roberts had to leave early.
Your nephew.

Speaker 2 (01:29:15):
You know what I love about that? Bill we talked
about I thought on the show it's that Nurse Roberts
was offended that you would think her nephew would be
anything but the lead. How could a nephew not this
show is called She had attitude like bitch if the show.

Speaker 3 (01:29:31):
If the show is Godspell, it would have been God,
God God.

Speaker 2 (01:29:38):
Well, Emily, thank you. We're going to keep you on
because the show is ending. We've done the show. We've
gone through it all. As Howard Stern always says, Krista,
what does he say?

Speaker 6 (01:29:49):
So you've said it all.

Speaker 2 (01:29:50):
We've said it all.

Speaker 7 (01:29:51):
You've said too much.

Speaker 2 (01:29:52):
We've said too much. We've said it all. I want
to thank Bill and Christa because, uh, this was fun.
We did a whole season. Guys, we we did a
whole season of Scrubs. Rewatch podcast. Congratulations, Yeah, it's really I.

Speaker 3 (01:30:08):
Want to thank Joel and Daniel to not Daniel after today,
but they're both so kind.

Speaker 2 (01:30:14):
I think Dan does not deserve thank you for today.

Speaker 1 (01:30:16):
I disagree with you, Zach. I disagree with you. I
tell you something right now. You guys don't know this
out there every Tuesday and Thursday. If it wasn't for
Daniel and Joel, y'all want to hear such crisp recordings
and great Hi Larry. Look, if it wasn't for them,
we wouldn't be here on your podcast radio thing, whatever

(01:30:40):
it is.

Speaker 2 (01:30:40):
That you listen. Listen, thank you, listen, listen.

Speaker 1 (01:30:43):
I will listen.

Speaker 2 (01:30:45):
Listen. I want yeah, I fell asleep while you were
doing that monologue. Listen. I want to thank these guys.
They do a fantastic job. I want to thank everybody
for listening. This has really been fun. Donald and I
thought this would be a fun, little entertaining thing to do,
but then COVID happened and it became our only job
and it's been so much fun. And it's a great escape, too,

(01:31:08):
great escape, and just hearing everything everybody's reaction to it
has been been a blast. So so thank you. Thank
you for Bill for making all of this happen. Thank
you to Christa for so many things, including, as Bill said,
so much of the music that y'all love on Scrubs
was chosen by Christa. So don't forget to tell your
friends please spread the word. Don't forget to rate the show,

(01:31:30):
remember like the Uber Driver five stars five stars, because
apparently that that that helps our our standing in the ranks,
and we're very competitive. We'd like to be high in
the ranks.

Speaker 1 (01:31:38):
We would also thank We also wanted to thank all
of our all of the crew members from this show,
and all of the directors who came on the show.
You know after this season. When this season ended, the
tone was now set and anyone who came in was
now playing in this big arena that bill the directors

(01:32:00):
and Christa and Neil created with the music and the show,
the tone was set, and so we want to thank
We want to thank the directors.

Speaker 2 (01:32:08):
He gave Neil a little more credit than he deserves that,
but you know, he was one of the writers.

Speaker 3 (01:32:14):
She knows, Krista knows. It's just Neil. Neil.

Speaker 6 (01:32:17):
By the way, on I wouldn't do the music with Neil.

Speaker 1 (01:32:20):
Yeah, I know, you didn't do her music with Neil,
but he did some of the music.

Speaker 3 (01:32:25):
Every time he gets mentioned.

Speaker 2 (01:32:26):
Don't don't give him any credit.

Speaker 7 (01:32:28):
I love Neil Goldman, but he didn't do the music
with me.

Speaker 3 (01:32:31):
Can we uh? I love you guys, Donald. I love you, Zach,
I love you. Makes me so happy to see you. Emily.
I feel like we're tighter n my wife. I love you.
Is so fun to get to work with you. I
get I hope I get to do it again. But
can we do a group happy five six seven eight
to get out of the show.

Speaker 2 (01:32:45):
We can, and we're going to let Emily participate. And
Joel and Dan you should turn off turn on your
mic so you can participate.

Speaker 3 (01:32:52):
I know, I feel it's the last one of the year.
I'm gonna have to come up with a different gag
next year.

Speaker 2 (01:32:55):
You are going to need a new gag, Bill because
uh we have merch coming and it's as as I
said earlier, it's all inspired by Bill five six seven
eight and uh and stop Hug. You will soon be
able to get a stop hug mug. Everyone's gonna want
to get that. When the world opens back up. We
hope to tour the show and and and and we'll
convince uh Bill and Christa to come along for some

(01:33:16):
fun adventures all over the world. Thank you, we love
you guys, and uh, here we go ready.

Speaker 8 (01:33:23):
Fuses that show we made about a bunch of times
and nurses and.

Speaker 1 (01:33:34):
Said he's a stories nets No

Speaker 9 (01:33:39):
So get here, yea here and