5 ROUND Dynasty SUPERFLEX Rookie Mock Draft (Ep. 150)

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Hello, everybody, Welcome into the Fantasy Pros Dynasty Football Podcast.
I am Ryan Warmley, joined as always by Scott Bogman
and Pat Fitzmorris. And guys, I'm going to just blow
past any kind of introduction, any kind of hey, how
you doing, because we are trying to get through a
five round superflex rookie mock draft today. This is for

(00:30):
the folks who they do dive deep in their own
rookie drafts, and hey, you guys only ever do two
rounds or three rounds. We're going five deep today, so
hopefully you stick around for all of that. And we
obviously have now sixty names to pack into this episode,
so we'll go really quickly here.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Just want to quickly let everybody know.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
All of our early twenty twenty four consensus rankings and
tiers can be found at fantasypros dot com slash rankings.
You can also navigate from there to our staff dynasty
rankings on the site as well, including rookie rankings.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
We will go in here. I will point out that
I have been once again not given the first pick.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
We went through an entire draft season with me never
getting the first pick, and I already called Bogman out
on it before the show, and I'm gonna call him
out on the show as well. It will be Fits first,
Bogman second, and myself third. Bog What do you have
to say for I'm going to call me ragans fan
I I We'll move past it. Fits be taken with
the one oh one in the super Flex rookie mock.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
All right, before we start, worm, can we stipulate that
we are not drafting for need or anything, that we
are just taking best player available. So if one team
happens to be stacked up with four running backs, it's
simply because they believe that's where the value was at
that point.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
Yes, every pick is within the vacuum of that pick.
It's not contextual to like, oh though two oh one
and the one oh one already took a courd No,
not that it's all who you had taken that pick
in a vacuum.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
Good deal at one on one, I'm gonna take Caleb Williams,
not a big surprise. I think he's been the consensus
one on one in super flex drafts, although we occasionally
see the first non quarterback going the one on one spot.
But Caleb, I believe in the player, and he just
walks into such a good situation with the pass catching

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group of Dj Moore, Keenan Allen, Romo Dune. Great setup
for a rookie quarterback, maybe one of the better ones
in recent memories.

Speaker 4 (02:21):
So he's an easy one on one for me.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
Yeah, not something to overthink.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
He's been the one O one throughout this entire process, obviously,
you know, Draft Knight didn't change that. If anything, get
helped getting Romadunze in there as well. So clear one
oh one, Bogman, who you taking at one O two?

Speaker 5 (02:37):
Give me Marvin Harrison at number two?

Speaker 6 (02:38):
And I know it's a super flex and it's tough to,
you know, tell you to not take a quarterback, especially
with some of these good quarterbacks on the board. And
this is the real reason I put myself number two here, worm,
It is because I think this is the hardest spot.
I think Caleb is definitely he's guaranteed the starting gig
from maybe not week one, but very early in the season.
I think he's gonna start Week one with no issues.

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He has the great weapons around him. They have built
a plan around Caleb Williams. The other guys, you know,
McCarthy wasn't necessarily their guy. It seemed like maybe they
wanted May from Minnesota. You know, I think Daniels has
the crazy rushing up side, of course, but he also
has the injury thing that we worry about because he

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is a little bit slighter and he runs around around
with reckless abandon. So Marvin Harrison is a guarantee to me.
I think he's a top five wide receiver already right now.
He's an alpha in Arizona. I think that he's gonna
get a gigantic target share. So it's easy Marvin Harrison
for me, even with some good qbs in a super
flex mock on the board here.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
So I think, you know, Caleb at one and Marvin
at two have generally been kind of consensus. Those are
the most common iteration, you see. I'm kind of going
away from that here. I am taking Malik Neighbors, not
Jaden Daniels. And it's what you mentioned, Bogs, it's the
injury stuff. I really really struggle to see how a
guy who runs as frequently as he does when the

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pocket breaks down, Jaden Daniels is taking off and who
tastes as brutal of hits as he does you know,
obviously there's a lot to like with him, and the
rushing is a cheat code and all that, but I
think Milik Neighbors is pretty much close to a sure
thing as well, you know, right up there with Marvin Harrison.
A lot of the advanced analytics like put them really
neck and neck throughout last season. He's gonna get a
ton of targets in that offense. Daniel Jones is not

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maybe as good as Kyler Murray, but he's not like
terrible like he If he's healthy with Brian Dale running
that offense, he is at least good enough for Milik Neighbors,
I think, as the wide receiver one in that offense
to be really good right off the bat. So I
will take him at the one oh three and we
move to fits with the one oh four.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
Yeah, not an easy choice of one oh three, worm,
I concur with your selection of maybe the safer Melik
Neighbors over Jayden Daniels, but that makes things really easy
for me.

Speaker 4 (04:49):
At one oh four.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
I'm gonna take Jaden Daniels and go for that lofty
rushing upside, the potential for Jaden Daniels to be a
QB one in his first year in league because of
what he can do on the ground if he does
indeed keep himself from getting crash test dummied too often
in his rookie year and stays on the field.

Speaker 6 (05:12):
Crash test dumb. It's such a good times. I mean,
it's perfect fits it really is it really?

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Uh?

Speaker 6 (05:18):
For for my pick here, I'm it's easy. It's JJ McCarthy,
And I kind of see this as an end of
a tier as well in terms of super flex ninasties,
because you have the three qbs in there, and I
all think that these qbs could eventually be the number
one QB. Obviously, Jade Daniels has the crazy rushing upside.
If he can stay healthy and maybe learn to step

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out of bound slide, there's a lot to like here.
He had a higher big time throw percent engine lower
turnover worthy player than the other guys in this tier.

Speaker 5 (05:49):
He's great.

Speaker 6 (05:50):
My pick of JJ McCarthy is a team that passes
so much. I mean they were fourth and passes thrown
last season in the Minnesota Vikings with you know, the
musical chair that they had at quarterback after Kirk Cousins
went down. So I think McCarthy has a chance just
in this high volume offense with Addison and Jefferson to
also be the number one QB, which means in super

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flex you could be the number one player. So I
think all of these dudes that are this good and
have this amount of upside, to me, it's the end
of a tier. So now the real reason I gave
you this pick, worm, I still think these next couple
picks are pretty easy.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Here.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
Well, I'm positive I know what the next two picks
will be. Even though I have the first of those
two picks, I'm not sure what the order will be
because I've still tried to think it through.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
I don't see it as a tear break. I do
think that fair.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
I'm going to go with the fourth quarterback, who I
also think is in the same category of could be
the number one quarterback one day. You know of this grouping,
and that's Drake May. The landing spot scares me. Obviously,
it doesn't scare me as much as it did right
off the bat. And I've talked about this on a
couple of shows and ericson and I just had a

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conversation about this on the TikTok Live recently. But I
with quarterbacks specifically, I'm just not worrying about landing spot
anymore because the quarterback himself can elevate.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
He can. We saw it with c J. Stroud, and
Drake May is not c J. Stroud.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
But the quarterback himself can turn that landing spot from
a bad one to a good one. It's also clear
that New England knows they need to add offensive talent
there based on how the rest of their draft went,
adding a couple of receivers some linemen. So I'm just
I'm a believer in the prospect quarterback is too valuable.
I really really really hate to pass up the guy
that Fits is about to take, but I just think

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quarterback is too important, and getting Drake May with the
sixth pick in a rookie draft in superflex, I'm over
at the moon about that. In a vacuum Fits, would
you have taken You're gonna take Roma Dunesey, everybody knows it.
Would you have taken him over May or even McCarthy
in these last couple of picks.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
No, I would have taken Drake May, And for me
like I would have taken either quarterback over Roma Dunezay
as much as I like O Dunsay and like, I
have McCarthy ahead of May, but I have second guessed
myself on that because I like May more. And now
we're hearing these reports that multiple teams tried to trade
up with the Patriots to take Drake May at number three,

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including the Vikings. So the fact that May was the
preferred choice of the Vikings over McCarthy, maybe just because
the landing spot for McCarthy was so good and the
one for May is less than optimal, maybe we should
still like May more. That's just something people with rookie

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drafts coming up are going to have to decide, and
it's a tough call, no question about it. So yeah,
I am gonna take Roma Dunese hear, the last of
the big three wide receivers. I think in most years
o'doon's they would have had a strong case to be
the wide receiver one in a rookie class. Just so
good in contested catch situations. Just throw it to this guy,

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even if he's well covered, and chances are he's coming
down with it. And I'm not bothered by the fact
that he's gonna have a lot of target competition in
year one with DJ Moore, Keenan Allen because Allen is
probably only gonna be with the Bears for one year,
and uh like he and Caleb Williams are going to
get to grow together.

Speaker 4 (09:10):
It's gonna be fun to watch.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
I think that's a very smart, you know, way to
lay it out. I really don't care that he's the
third guy in the depth chart for year one, and
like the long term, the stock could not be higher
pairing him with Kayleb Williams. So I think that's absolutely
the right pick there, Bogs, what do you think?

Speaker 6 (09:29):
Great pick that? That's what I would have done. But
I'll say this my pick here. I'm gonna take Brock Power,
Brock Bowers, and I think this is a three man
tier and I have o Doonsay Bowers and then May
third because I just really don't like New England and
their past catchers. So I think it may be. And
remember I do look in a little bit of a

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shorter window uh than most people, even for ninasty, so
uh for me, I just don't know how long it's
going to take May to get up to speed. I
know a dounsay is great and maybe it takes him
a little longer too. As Fitz said, because Keenan Allen
is going to be there this season, but they're gonna
They're gonna learn to grow. I think Odoons is really
close to a lock and Brock Bowers. It offers you

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that opportunity to have a Travis Kelce type player at
the position, a player that is so much better than
everybody else at this position eventually that he is outscoring everyone,
and he offers you so much of a gap at
that spot that I think he has to be taken very,
very high. And uh Fitz knows, I've done it in
two drafts. I have got Brock Bowers. He's a player

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I really like and I want to roster, so Bowers
for me here pretty easy.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
You talked about the tier, you know, we talked before
the NFL Draft about how it was kind of a
really clear top eight. Once JJ McCarthy had elevated into
that top eight, it does feel like the consensus is
that Bowers is maybe falling back of it. He's still
in that eight, but he's almost a tier of one
after the top seven at least in a lot of
the rankings and mock drafts that I've seen. Really like
the way I've kind of seen a play out mostly

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is so like a tier of two at the top,
then another two, then three and then one. Now you
can kind of quibble, like like you said, you kind
of have it as a tier of three towards the end.
Sure you know you have macarthen and the higher tier,
but that's kind of like how it's played out, is
that the Caleb, Marv Malik, Jaden McCarthy, May Dunsay and
then Bowers.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
So like we were talking last week, I got Bowers.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
At the one ten in a draft recently like he is,
I think falling a bit behind some of these other seven.
I think that's a mistake. I'm totally with you, bogging.
This is a saying I would have made. I do
not think that the landing spot was not my favorite.
I do not think it's enough to knock him out
of that top eight. I just think that the prospect
is so good just quickly fits on that top eight.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
Is that kind of how you're seeing it play out too?

Speaker 4 (11:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (11:41):
Mostly, And I have seen there was a draft I
was in where Jonathan Brooks went ahead of Brock Powers,
which kind of shocked me. I mean, like, I think
brought Bowers if you needed a tight end and maybe
you were set at a wide receiver. I could make
a case for taking Bowers over Odoonzay like Bowers is
fantastic And even though the landing spot is maybe not

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what we had hoped for, the Raiders eventually will probably.

Speaker 4 (12:07):
Get the quarterback situation figured out. And who knows.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
I mean, like we saw Gardner Minshew support Michael Pittman
quite well last year in Indianapolis, so I don't hate
the spot. And plus he is so versatile. Does it
matter that Michael Mayer is there? No, it doesn't matter
that a target hog like Devonte Adams is there.

Speaker 4 (12:29):
Probably not. I mean, Bowers is gonna be the number
two target in this Often I.

Speaker 5 (12:33):
Make it better for Hi.

Speaker 6 (12:34):
Yeah you know, yeah, yeah, I completely agree fits and
I do think. I think what you're seeing when you
have a guy like Brooks taking ahead usually it's a
running back, right, And it's the desperation of the position.
And that is why we said we're not doing this
with you know, team context or anything in this mock.
So but it is desperation. People get desperate for a

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certain position because they're in a bad spot, and they
take a guy like Brooks ahead of some time players
because they got to have somebody to fill it.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
So unless you're talking about a different league, fits I
can we don't even need to speculate.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
I was the one who took.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
Brooks over Bowers in our work dynasty league, but that
was because I had the one oh eight.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Desperate Debro did it too.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
Hebro loves Brooks, but in that league in particular, that's
part of why I did. Because I had the one
oh eight and I took Brooks. Debro had the one
oh nine. I knew he would have taken him there,
and he already had Laporta and Kincaid, so that was like,
this pretty good chance that Bowers then get to me
at the one ten. I do rank Bauers higher in
a vacuum, irrespective of team need and trying to play
that context. But it is somebody to keep in mind
that you should be thinking about the context of the

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teams around you, so making every decision.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
Yeah, now that you remind me of it, Brooks has
actually gone ahead of Bowers in three of the four
rookie drafts I've been involved in. Because this wasn't either
of those leagues. This was a different league, and the
friend who took Jonathan Brooks. He had the one O
seven and the one oh nine, so he wound up
with Bowers. Anyway, he just basically he was he was
going to get Brooks, I think, no matter what. But

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he wound up with basically Brooks and Bauers instead of
Brooks and o'doonsay.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
So I'm up at the one o nine and this
is very clearly a tier break between the top a
at least in my opinion. So the ninth pick is
not an easy one. I'm not gonna go with Brooks.
We've just been talking about. I'm gonna go with Ladd McConkey.
Part of it is just like, even though this isn't
a real draft we're doing, I do have fomo and
that I just haven't gotten lad in any of the
rookie drafts I've done. And he's very clearly, well maybe
not clearly, but like I think to me, clearly is.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
Going to be the top target earner in this offense.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
In an offense with Justin Herbert, we've talked a lot
about how like Greg Roman offense, Yeah they're gonna run
a lot, but they will throw enough that the top
target earner can still be productive. Ladd is really really
you know, talented. Obviously, you can play all over the field.
Get compaired to the great quarterback. I think you can
make a case for about five different players at the
one o nine. And for the sake of this, you
know draft, I'm going with Lad and setting up fits

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for the next pick.

Speaker 4 (14:53):
You really are setting me up.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
I thought I was gonna have a dilemma here and no,
instead you just handed me Worthy, And like, I think
Worthy should kind of be the guy who goes after
that top eight. Just such a good situation, and I
believe in worthy of the player. I mean, this was
a guy who stepped on to campus in Austin at

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Texas as an eighteen year old freshman and immediately had
what was it bogs twelve touchdowns, nine hundred some yards
so far, holific producer from the get go, and I
think the fact that he was able to do that
at age eighteen, this guy is about more than speed.
Like he is a good football player, a good route runner.
He kind of reminds me of DeVante Smith in some ways,

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and that he is a like nuanced route runner too
in some ways.

Speaker 6 (15:41):
Like I think Tyreek Hill every time I watch him
and I know that's insane, that it's an insane comp
and it's a Homer comp and all of that, but
it really is the speed that he has makes a difference.
And it's not the only thing he has, like Fitz says,
but it makes him stand out above everybody else.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
My only beef with that Box, Like, I don't think
we're he has the ball tracking or ball skills that.

Speaker 5 (16:03):
Think anybody has.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
All what do you before we move on to Box's
pick fits, I want to ask you, and I'm partially
thinking of this in the framework of Worthy and McConkey,
but just in general, with this kind of range of receivers,
do you when you're making rookie picks think about not
only like, hey, look at this fit, and I like
the talent and all that, but where do I think
their value is going to be a year from now?

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Because when I look at like Ladd mcconkee, I think
it's likely he gets more targets this season, even in
the Chargers offense with Greg Roman, than Xavier Worthy does
because the Chiefs, like for all the you know, problems
they've had, you know, the last couple of years, replacing
that receiver corp there are a lot of mouths to
feed in that offense. Between Travis Kelcey, they added Hollywood
Round also Xavier Worthy. They also don't have the greatest

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track record of bringing these rookies along. We don't really
know exactly what's gonna happen where she Rice, but he's
another one as well, Whereas like Ladd, I think it's
very possible that he has a better statistical season than
Worthy in year one, and therefore as we enter year
two might be thinking of him higher value because he's
coming off the stronger ear. Do you try and think
about that when doing rookies or are you just primarily
think about I like the talent.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
I like to fit and go.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
Forward mostly talent and fit. I don't turn a complete
blind eye to target competition and the outlook as such.
But like I figure, if a guy's good, he is
going to get his share of targets no matter what,
and so like, I'm not going to turn my back
on a guy just because he's on a room. Romo Odunza,

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for example, who's walking into a really murky target picture
in year one, don't care. I know Roma Dunza is
going to be terrific and have a great career, so
I want in on that.

Speaker 6 (17:38):
Yeah, that makes sense, all right, let's move to boxes
pick at the one ten or yeah, BIS one eleven. Yeah,
but bon Nix is my pick here, and it's you know,
I have I did three different tiers or two different
tiers to start. This tier is nine guys deep to me,
and it's bookend, bookended by QB. So bon Nicks here. Look,

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he's a first round pick. He's a starter now almost immediately.
I would say, maybe Zach Wilson starts for half the year,
but I think we've done the Zach Wilson experiment before
we know it ain't gonna work. So bon Nicks is
going to be the guy here. And the targets aren't
great either. Courtland Sutton is still there as of now
and some inexperience, so you have to put him behind

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these other qbs. But in a super flex league, even
if I don't necessarily need a quarterback, right, I'm taking
bon Nicks because someone is going to need a quarterback
and I can get probably more than what is on
the board here for a starting quarterback at some point
in the next couple of seasons, especially if bo Nick

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starts hot. I could get way more than what's on
the board. They're good players on the board, but desperation
in the bigger your league is obviously the bigger, the
need for quarterbacks and a super flexes. So I think
this is it's less about talent for bon Knicks. It's
more about the fact that he's starting, and his value

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as being a starting quarterback in the NFL skyrockets over
a lot of these guys. So for me, I have
bon Nicks here, and I do kind of like Bonix.
I don't hate him as much as a lot of
the other people I've heard talk about him. Do I
think he's fine? Do I think he's going to be
in that upper echelon of the other guys? Does he
have that chance? I don't think so, especially landing in

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Denver where there's not a lot of great targets. So
can that be changed next year? Sure, But they went
out and got his number one wide receiver at Oregon
just to make him comfortable. It almost felt like because
he fell down the board. So I think the value
of Bonnicks here is high, and that's why I would
take him over some of the other guys. And I
like a lot of guys in this tier. So but
give me the QB in a SUPERO.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
It's a really strong case that you make given the format.
It's not a move I would have done, just because
I just like too many of these wide receivers in
this range fits.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
Would you be willing to.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
Consider bo Nicks at the back end of the first
round or are you still looking at these receivers and
running backs?

Speaker 4 (19:58):
It's a little too early for me.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
I did take bow Knicks at two two or two
oh three in a rookie draft.

Speaker 4 (20:06):
Like, I don't hate the pick.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
We know that that's sort of the economy of superflex
leagues get strong at quarterback, and here's a guy who's
going to start right away. You would think maybe by
week three or week four at the earliest, or at
the latest. So yeah, like, I have no beef with it.
I don't love bow Knicks as a prospect. I think
he might have a limited ceiling, but for a guy

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who was drafted with the intention for him to be
the long term starter in Denver for Sean Payton, and
maybe he can be sort of the dollar store version
of Drew Brees for Sean Payton in Denver. So I
have no beef with the pick.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
Really, I will round out the first round with Brian
Thomas Junior. He has fallen to the early second in
almost every rookie draft I've done. I disagree with that
pretty wholeheartedly. He was most people's wide receiver four in
this class, behind only that elite trio at the top.
Going into the NFL Draft. He went forth among that group,
you know, at the position. On draft night, He's paired

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with Trevor Lawrence, who I like quite a bit. I
get that there are also a lot of amounts to
feed in that offense, but at this point, I mean,
the talent I think is very clear. I think he's
gotten better every year in college, and I think he's
paired with a young quarterback that I'm happy to see
him paired with in the long run. I'm not worried
about Gabe Davis, like I think Brian Thomas is just
the better player. So I'm very happy to get him

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at the end of the first and not let him
slide into the second. Just a quick recap of the
first round in order. Caleb Williams, Marvin Harrison Junior, Molik Neighbors,
Jayden Daniels, JJ McCarthy Drake May, Roma Dunze, Brock Bauers,
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for round two with the two oh one.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
Well, since you guys have left keyon Coleman for me here,
I'll just grab him and make sure Bogs doesn't get
his grubby little myths on him. Yeah, I mean, I
love this guy. I've liked him for a while. Just phenomenal,
contested catch skills, not an elite separator, but it was
funny last fall. I knew I was going to be

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in on this guy in Dynasty League, So like, I
watched Florida State games with a little bit more careful
and I and.

Speaker 4 (23:19):
Like, I actually think he's an underrated route runner.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
I mean, I don't think he's going to be an
elite separator because he's not, you know, super quick, not
lightning fast, but like he can get enough separation with
the job he does as a route runner.

Speaker 4 (23:36):
I think to win at the NFL level.

Speaker 3 (23:39):
And you know we're we're seeing now he's got this
effervescent personality. I think he's gonna fit in Buffalo really well,
and you know, I think the Bills mafia is going
to get on board with Keon Coleman. I don't know
what he's gonna do in year one, Like I don't
know if he's instantly gonna be the Bill's top receiver,
but I'm I'm pretty bullish on him long term.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
I was I love.

Speaker 5 (24:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (24:06):
I think I think most people would be if they've
heard FITS talk about Keyon Coleman. And by the way,
Keanon Coleman was the top of my board, So great
pick there, and Brian Thomas I had right after him.
So I I go down to my next guy, and
it is our first running back, and once again I
get to be a homer. Here Jonathan Brooks, a running
back that went to Carolina by way of Texas.

Speaker 5 (24:26):
And yes there's a.

Speaker 6 (24:29):
Chance that he misses a chunk of the season as
Starry probably starting the pup, which we haven't missed the
first month of the season. But a dude that is
great with the ball in his hands, and he adds,
you know, the Panthers know they need to add weapons.
That's why they traded up to get Lagett. A lot
of people didn't, you know, agree with the Legette pick.
But it is adding weapons. It's adding weapons to the team.

(24:52):
They went and got Sanders, they went and got Brooks.
They spent money on the offensive line. I know Miles
Sanders they paid and Chuba Hubbard was better than Miles
last year. I don't care. Brooks is better than both
of these guys. He is going to be the starting
running back with a lot of touches by the end
of this season. So easy pick for me here, Jonathan Brooks. Yeah,

(25:14):
that is who my pick would have been if you
had gone with the receiver. I think Brooks is definitely
are be one in this class. The opportunity is going
to be there.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
I'm going to take Trey Benson here at the two
or three, and it's not there are other players that
I might have higher. This isn't me pretending like I
have a team need at running back. It's the fact
that I think these running backs are kind of a
tier of their own at the position, and once Brooks
is gone, I'm pretty happy to just take Benson right
after that and make sure I get one of those guys,
because I don't think the rest of the running back

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class is likely to contribute as quickly and as immediately
as I think these two can I'm not scared off
by James Connor. I think Benson is really good. I
think it's an ascending offense. I'm just really excited to
have a piece of what was a strong running game
last year and now this is the youngest, most talented
guy in that backfield. So I'm really happy to get
Trey Benson at two of three and send it to
fits for the two.

Speaker 4 (26:01):
O four Michael Pennox Junior.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
And you know, like it's hard to pick a guy
this early when he is probably not going to play
in year one if things go according to plan for
the team that drafted him, the Atlanta Falcons. And we
have seen a lot of shade cast at Atlanta for
this move and they're sort of over investment in the
quarterback position.

Speaker 4 (26:26):
But then again, we've seen people.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
Have these arguments on Twitter, like would it really be
so wrong for a team to like draft two quarterbacks
in the early rounds and you know, like give yourself
two darts at that all important position. So like, I
don't really have as big a problem with the way
the Falcons handled it as some other people. You know,

(26:50):
I'm not a huge Kirk Cousins fan, as you guys
are probably aware of. So I think Pennix could be
starting sooner rather than later. I don't think he's going
to be waiting four years for the entirety of Kirk
Cousins contract. And if you look at that contract, it
would be pretty easy for the Falcons to get away
from Kirk Cousins after two years. Plus Cousins is coming

(27:11):
off a torn Achilles and he's in his mid thirties. Like,
I get the logic of the pick, and I do
believe in Michael Pennox and his arm talent.

Speaker 4 (27:20):
He has a heck of an arm.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
So yeah, I know he's got kind of a troublesome
injury history, but I'm I'm willing to invest in my
quarterback room here at.

Speaker 4 (27:30):
Two oh four.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
Yeah, I get it just comes down to the value
quarterback in super Flex. I think it's totally justifiable there
given everything we know.

Speaker 6 (27:39):
About the seven QB started last year, sixty seven different
quarterbacks started, so you know, and I don't, uh, you know,
we don't need to harp on Michael Pennix here, you know,
but he's definitely he I had two players left. He
was one of them here, and you know, we may
not like it that the Falcons took him, especially that

(28:00):
is it something I would do know, But I think
you can easily justify it knowing the QB hell that
that team has been in for a while, so just
have to have one.

Speaker 5 (28:08):
So I get it.

Speaker 6 (28:10):
But with this pick, and maybe this is the first
reach that I have, but you guys probably know from
last week that I like this guy. I'm taking Jalen Wright,
the running back out of Tennessee, going to the Miami
Dolphins because I love this offense. I love what McDaniel
is doing here. It is speed on speed on speed.
I know a lot of people are knocking eight Chan

(28:30):
because they took right here. I think he's the most
of replacements, is in his thirties, he has an extensive
injury history. Most of his production was from touchdowns last season,
so I think that that is why we see a
guy like Jalen Wright. You can't have Jeff Wilson in
there slowing the whole showdown, right, you can't have Salvin

(28:51):
Achmed in there slowing the whole showdown. Speed on speed
on speed. With this team, we're keeping it consistent. We're
getting Jalen right in here, and I think he could
be You know, a Chan is never going to be
a guy that get twenty carries. To me, he's going
to be a ten to fifteen touch guy every single game,
and you expect one to break big. I think Wright
is going to handle the heavy load when when Mosterter

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is gone, and that could be sooner rather than later.

Speaker 5 (29:13):
So give me Jalen right here fits.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
For those who missed us discuss this in our you know,
running back rankings last week when talking about the rookies,
why do you hate this pick?

Speaker 3 (29:23):
I don't hate this pick actually, and believe it or not,
I took Jalen Wright in a rookie draft of my own,
like I wanted to be represented in case I'm really
wrong about this. Well one, I think Devon Ah Chan
is better, just a better player, and you know.

Speaker 5 (29:37):
I do too. For the rest will be first out.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
But obviously, like a Chan is under two hundred pounds
and needs a tag team partner for sure, and Bogs
is right Raheem Mostert is in his early thirties. And
it was a minor miracle that Moister didn't miss any
time to injury last year because we know how extensive
his injury history is, so.

Speaker 4 (29:56):
It makes sense.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
And I mean, if things go according to plan and
by some oracle, Mostert survives another season without injury, I
think Wright gets maybe like fifty touches this year. I
think he's basically like Trayveon Williams for the Bengals this
year barring any injury, but the likelihood of either a
Chan or Moster getting hurt at some point is probably

(30:17):
pretty good. And yeah, like Jalen Wright in an offense
predicated on speed going to a play caller who loves
to utilize fast guys, I can't argue with the logic here,
and I do not, in fact hate the pickworm.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
All right, I'm up at two oh six and really
torn between two guys like I might as well just
slip a coin with how much I like these you guys.
I'm gonna take Ricky Piercell though, and just play the
long game and try and read the tea leaves and
assume that even if it's not this year, by next
year he will be one of the top two receivers
in this offense, and I will just expect that one

(30:55):
of Auk or Diba Samuel will not be there anymore.
It's a really nice offense to be in. You know,
obviously he's going to get, you know, opportunities. I think
he's really talented. I loved him as a prospect Ricky
piersol So at the two h six in a good offense.
I'm expecting the target competition to open up a bit
at least a year from now, if not this season.
I'm happy to get him halfway through the second round

(31:15):
and Fits you are on the clock.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
Well, I would have taken Peer Saltworm, so good pick there. Instead,
I'm going to take Blake Korham, and to me, this
was the best pure runner in the draft. Sorry, Bogs.
I like him a little bit more than Jonathan Brooks
just as a runner. But at the same time, like
I know, the physical toolkit for Korum is not what
it is for Jonathan Brooks and Trey Benson. He's slower,

(31:41):
he's smaller. I just think he has really good vision
and contact balance, so I think, and I like the
fit actually with the Rams, because the Rams clearly see
him as a one for one interchangeable piece with Kyron Williams,
another smaller, slower running back who nonetheless has been really successful.

Speaker 4 (32:04):
So I like this.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
Maybe Quorum is just a straight backup. But that's fine
because if anything happens to Kyrien Williams, who did miss
what four games last year with the high ankle sprain, Basically,
if Quorum is in for Kyron Williams who isn't playing,
we're gonna see Blake Korm ranked as an RB one
that week and the weekly rankings, Like there's no question

(32:27):
about it. Basically, Sean mcvay's offense's gold for running backs.

Speaker 6 (32:35):
Let me ask you this here, FITZI would you, if
you're you like Blake Korm a lot, but would you
skip on Brooks early and take Bowers hoping you can
get Korm coming back instead of or there's so many
good wide outs in this class, where screw it. Just
give me Brooks, my number one rated running back, and

(32:58):
then I'm gonna take whatever wide receiver cause the wide
receivers are so deep. Yeah, I mean, there's becuse I
think that that is what we're seeing a lot of
people do, is to take Brooks and then just take
whatever wide receiver comes out.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
I get it, I understand that, But you know, like
I like the big three wide receivers in this class
and Bowers so much. There's no way I could take
Brooks over any of those four.

Speaker 6 (33:17):
Okay, yeah, yeah, same for me. This this pick here,
I'm gonna take Adni Mitchell.

Speaker 5 (33:23):
Uh So there we go.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
I get, I get two of my Texas guys.

Speaker 6 (33:27):
But also, you know, if the issues of ad Ni
Mitchell are the attitude right and off the field stuff,
now he has to go out and prove that he
is not those things right because he slipped in the
draft and his GM stood up for him in a
very vocal uh you know, media session there. So there's

(33:51):
also he's pushing Alec Pierce right out of this starting job.
So Anthony Richardson is really the guy that gets the
biggest boost of Mitchell coming here, because now you have JT.
You have Josh down say, franchise Pittman and paid him,
so now they have all kinds of weapons with Richardson.
But I think ad and I is the type of
guy that is gonna be hugely impactful. And when we

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have a lot of these wide receivers. I got a
bunch of wide receivers in this tier and they're all
kind of interchangeable.

Speaker 5 (34:17):
Give me the guy with the highest upside, and I
think that's at night.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
When I was torn on my last pick, it was
Pear Salt or Ady Mitchell. I knew I fits was
gonna take Korum in between those, but I was really
up in the air between Peter sal and Mitchell, and
I went with Piersal But on a different day I
might have gone with Ad and I I think that's
a great pick here in the back half of the
second round.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
I think it definitely falls off a bit here as well.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
There's a lot of names that I think, yeah, I'd
be happy to have them on my team, but not
a lot that I'm like running to the podium to
get at this point and really excited about. I'm gonna
take Marshaun Lloyd and it's strictly a play on he
was my second favorite running back in the class. And
you know, there's been discussion about how Josh Jacobs's contract
where they can actually get out of it, you know,
far sooner than four years. I know a little bit
of a faith in Debro who has been really pounding

(35:02):
the table through Marshawn Lloyd. And I love the player too,
Like he doesn't need to sell me on the player.
He is needing to sell me a bit on a
landing spot, and he's kind of doing that.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
So in a week running back class.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
At this point in the draft, back after the second round,
I'm just gonna take a guy who was one of
my favorite players to watch in the class in Marshawn Lloyd.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
And now it's up to fits.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
Oh, man, I feel like I'm not like I don't
have an obvious choice here. I'm gonna go with Xavier
Legette to get someone who went in the first round,
and the Panthers actually traded up to get Xavier Loguette
in the first round. You have to figure he's a
big part of their plans. I do worry about the

(35:43):
production profile, the fact that he did nothing in his
first four years in college and then blew up in
his final year, but he is an extraordinary physical specimen.
The athleticism is just phenomenal, and he's really good after
the catch. You know, I don't love the landing spot.
It just seems like the Panthers are sort of this

(36:05):
star crossed organization right now, and we don't know if
Bryce Young is gonna pan out or not. But man, like,
I just can't pass up on the first round draft capitol,
I guess, and the athleticism. So a reluctant pick here
of Xavier log Att.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
I had the same thought, But I mean, like that
draft capital is not nothing like yeah, first round wide
receiver in the second half of movie again is yeah,
that's that's really enticing guy.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
So I get it.

Speaker 6 (36:32):
Yeah, I mean it is. Legett is one of those guys,
And I think that's what we have in this tier.
To me is we have guys that like super upside
but maybe you know, like Mitchell with Pittman there and
Josh Nownson obviously JT so like, you know, if he
landed in Carolina, he's way over Lagette, I think, because
now he's definitely the number one wide receiver on the team.

Speaker 5 (36:54):
But for me, I'm gonna take Jallim Polk here.

Speaker 6 (36:56):
And the thought process is the same as what Fitz
just said with Leaguette is I actually personally like Javon
Baker more than I like Polk, right, And the Patriots
took Baker as well, but it's the draft capital. They
took Polk in the second, they took Baker in the fourth,
So for me, it's they have more faith in Polk

(37:17):
they're gonna put him out there in more situations to start,
So Polk has a chance to be the number one
from the jump for the Patriots with a new QB
who a lot of us believe in. I like him,
I hate his targets. I hope these guys are gonna,
you know, come out and be gangbusters for him, these
two wide receivers that the Pats drafted. That's not a guarantee,

(37:37):
but I do think that he could be the number
one target receiver for the Patriots immediately. So I think
this is a good selection, especially if you need a
target heavy guy.

Speaker 5 (37:47):
So give me Polk here.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
I would have taken Polk.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
Since he's off the board, I'm going to take Baker
and say that I think they're both going to have
a chance to, you know, establish themselves as the top
option in this offense, you know, as the course of
their rookie seasons go on, because you know, I know
Polk has a better draft capital, But who is gonna
block either of these two in this offense?

Speaker 2 (38:04):
So I'm gonna take a player that I really like.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
And I know we fell to the fourth round, but
with Polk off the board, I there's nobody that I
really love, and I'm taking a guy who it's basically
the case you just laid out for Polk, just a
guy who went a couple of rounds later, but who
we both like. So I'm not even gonna bother repeating
all that. But because I agree with you, have them
in the same tier. Yep, yep, I totally agree. I
would have taken Polk ahead of Baker like you, but

(38:27):
I think it makes a lot of sense. Quick recap
of the second round, Keyon Coleman, Jonathan Brooks, Trey Benson,
Michael Pennox, Junior, Jalen Wright, Ricky Piersall, Blake Korum, Ad
and I Mitchell, Marshawn Lloyd, Xavier Lagette, Jalen Polk, and
Javon Baker.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
Before we get to the third round.

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of round three fits.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
Start us off Roman Wilson, wide receiver, Pittsburgh Steelers, and
I know Scott Bogman would walk five hundred miles to
avoid anything, any offense that has Arthur Smith involved in it,
which is why Bogman hates Roman Wilson. Now even though
no like he likes Roman Wilson, he liked him as
a prospect, he just is ranking him really.

Speaker 4 (39:27):
Low because he's associated with Arthur Smith.

Speaker 3 (39:29):
But there's target opportunity in Pittsburgh, there's no denying that.
With the Deontay Johnson out of the picture and George Pickens,
who's actually had some trouble earning targets early in his career,
there's immediate target upside for Roman Wilson. And this was
a guy really up to stock during the pre draft
process at the senior ball, at the combine. Yeah, so here,

(39:54):
look at me all in on these Michigan guys. A
Wisconsin graduate who hates the universe City of Michigan football program,
and I just can't stop drafting ex Wolverines.

Speaker 4 (40:04):
It's kind of weird.

Speaker 6 (40:06):
I'll say my love for Wilson will go way up
if anything happens to Pickens. And that's like for Redraft
too during the regular season. I just think it's a
one target system that are Arthur Smith.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
Or if anything happens to Arthur Smith, if he you know,
there's an open manhole cover that he doesn't see, and.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
Oh that would be terrible.

Speaker 6 (40:27):
Let's not talk about bad things like that fits of course,
so nobody wants that to happen at all. Right, So yeah, look, yeah,
I have Roman Wilson in the next year. I'm not
gonna take him this high. I do think there's a
lot of opportunity there. Obviously there is, because they don't
have good targets outside of Pickens. But I just don't
like Arthur Smith. So for me my pick here, I'm

(40:48):
gonna go back to the running backs. I'm gonna take
Ray Davis ending up in Buffalo because look, you know,
you know, we know, I think Buffalo's windows closing a
little bit here. But this offense, even you know, a
little wide receiver starved, I think is going to still
be very good because Josh Allen is at the helm
and if they're up late in games, they're going to
run the ball, especially later in the season in the

(41:10):
cold weather. Ray Davis is absolutely a closer third and
fourth quarter will take the rock, you know, bury the
other team's defense with some fresh legs. I know James
Cook is the main guy, and he's the alpha. He's
gonna get most of the touches, but Ray Davis definitely
has a chance to immediately be the number two and

(41:31):
you know, potentially work around the goal line as well.
So I love Ray Davis. I like him ending up
in Buffalo, and I like getting him in the third here.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
Every time I make a pick, I'm like, one of
these next two will be there for my next pick,
and then those are the next two picks by you guys.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
You guys are really killing me so far.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
I'm gonna make maybe a slight reach, at least based
on ECR. It's it's a reach, but knowing I'm in
this draft with fits, I'm gonna take Camani Videll because
I didn't think he was gonna get to me, and
he certainly would have lasted, you know, too many more picks,
but the opportunity is really obvious. In Los Angeles with
the Chargers, backfield obviously. You know, we just talked about
it a bit when talking aboutlat Mconkeye, But like, this

(42:05):
is an offense at the end of the day that
wants to run the ball quite a bit. They want
to beep up the offensive line again, like they signed
Gus Edwards, they added JK.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
Dobbins. Videll will have every opportunity.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
He's a running back that you know Thor liked quite
a bit, So there's talent there. Obviously, was hyper productive
at Troy and and has an opportunity. So I'm gonna
happily take Videl Fitz. Would you have taken him? There
was this the round I needed to take him to
get him.

Speaker 3 (42:27):
Yep, almost took him with the last pick. He was
going to go with my next pick, So yeah, good move.
The only issue with him is that he went in
the sixth round and that he was what like the
fifteenth running back off the board.

Speaker 4 (42:39):
That's where some.

Speaker 5 (42:39):
Running backs don't right hold that much.

Speaker 6 (42:42):
It's way more important for wideouts and Titans, and they
were all because running backs they'll take a guy off
the scrap heap and let him.

Speaker 3 (42:47):
And they were only only what three running backs drafted
on Day two none on Day one. So and then
like all those running backs were grouped mostly pretty tightly.
I mean, he won the Landing Spot lottery, there's no
question about that. Loved him as a prospect pre draft.
I mean, he's Troy University's all time leading rusher and
like he he was tough man and the opposing defenses

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knew who was getting the ball and this guy still produced.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
Yeah, all right, so I appreciate you hyping up my
pick for me absolutely.

Speaker 4 (43:18):
So with Kimani Bydell off the board, I'm gonna go with.

Speaker 3 (43:21):
Ben Sinnett, you know, Like I had put him as
my tight end two before the draft, and then I
think that was sort of validated with him being the
only tight end to go on day two.

Speaker 4 (43:33):
Oh, I take that back.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
Tip Ryman, the only pure blocking tight end in the
draft was the only other Day two tight end. So
it was Bowers on day one, and then on day
two it was only Ben Sinnet and Tip Ryman.

Speaker 4 (43:45):
So sinate and no one.

Speaker 5 (43:47):
Could believe the tip win in the third So.

Speaker 4 (43:49):
It was I mean, there were no other blocking tight
ends in this draft.

Speaker 3 (43:53):
That was kind of the weird thing, Like they're all
more pass catchers than blockers, so I guess I get it.
But yeah, like Sinnett is a good multifaceted tight end
and I think he's going to play a role in
the Washington passing game right away.

Speaker 4 (44:09):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
That's another one that deebro is a big fan of.

Speaker 6 (44:13):
Yeah, for mine, here, I'm going to this might be
a little bit of a reach, but give me Jermaine Burton,
the wide receiver that ended up on the Cincinnati Bengals
out of Alabama, and look, I like a lot of
the competition that he has as well. T Higgins has
gone after this season. He may be gone before this season.
That would be great for Burton. But Josevac, I like

(44:36):
Charlie Jones who they drafted last year too. Burton just
has difference making speed speed that he cannot be taught.
And you know, with a guy like Joe Burrow and
a guy like Chase working underneath, and we know Burrow's
deep ball accuracy is amazing, I just think the pairing
is awesome. So I really think Jermaine Burton is going
to take off sooner rather than later in this offense.

(44:57):
And we know it's a stretch the field vertical type
of offense. And it's perfect for him. So I really
like Jermaine Burton here, yep, really talented player. I think
it's a great pick. I'm gonna say Troy Franklin. I've
been willing to look past you know, draft capital a
couple of times already in this draft and say, I
don't care that this guy fell.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
It's somebody I really liked. I really liked Troy Franklin
as a prospect. I understand that there were reasons that
some NFL teams didn't love him as much but still
went early in the fourth. And I think I saw
somebody to point out that in other years the pick
he went with had been in the third round, like
depending on how many compicks there are. So you know,
it's that late third, early fourth range gets paired with
his college quarterback, Like I think that's really important for

(45:35):
a first year guy, and like they are going to
have a degree of chemistry that other rookie receivers just
won't have.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
With their quarterbacks.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
So mid third I think that's too far, even given
the fall he had in the NFL Draft. I'm really
happy to take him at three oh six and send
it to fits for the three oh seven.

Speaker 3 (45:50):
Yeah, so guy like and haven't actually gotten in any
of my rookie drafts so far. Luke McCaffrey, I'm gonna
take him here. Converted dual threat quarter back who's only
been doing the wide receiver thing for a couple of years,
and he's pretty good at it. He's scored a lot
of touchdowns for Rice his last couple of years, so
it sounds like they want to make him a big

(46:11):
slot and I think he could be an interesting I know.
I think he could be a good producer along with
Jayden Daniels, fitting in with Terry McLaurin and Johan Dotson.

Speaker 4 (46:26):
It just so athletic, like.

Speaker 3 (46:28):
The guy's in athletic Marvel and hey, the bloodlines are
pretty good with Christian McCaffrey being his brother, Big Ed
McCaffrey being his dad. So yeah, I like him at
this spot.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
Bogman, he got that pick.

Speaker 6 (46:43):
Love that pick. Cliff Kingsbury offense, It's gonna be a
lot of fun. Give me Bucky Irving. I think that
this is a dude that immediately gets touches and I know, look,
Bucky Irving failed to combine. He was one of the
biggest losers in the draft.

Speaker 5 (47:00):
Process.

Speaker 6 (47:01):
I totally understand that, but if we're looking at team
contacts and the team that drafted him. You know, we
talked about how we don't really care about where the
running back gets drafted. It's you know, in terms of
where in the draft, but it's the location that he
goes to the team that he goes to. Tampa Bay
has been trying to find someone to take touches from
Rashad White for the last two seasons, and this season

(47:22):
again he ended up with the second most touches in
the NFL. Christian McCaffrey is the only guy that had
more touches in him. So I think Irving is here
to come in on passing downs, be a change of paceback,
be a guy in this offense that can get some
touches away from Rashaud White, so they don't wear him
out early in his career like they have done some
other guys. So for me, I think Irving fits here.

(47:46):
A lot of teams are going to be are be desperate,
so I really like taking Bucky Irving this slate.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
Yeah, I think even with the you know, issues he
had during the draft process, Like again, at this point
in your rookie draft, that's a great you know swing
to take, can try and hit on that lottery take it.
I'm gonna take Malachai Corley. We're running out of guys
who went you know before day three. Corley is one
of the few left who did you know obviously, you know,
he's been kind of comped as like a poor man's
debo in terms of like the style of play they

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get out of Corley. The Jets were really excited when
they drafted him, a guy that I liked, you know,
in the pre draft process. There's an opportunity in that
receiving game. So I will I will take Coray here
and fits us up next.

Speaker 3 (48:26):
Oh worm, you've turned into quite the burr under my saddle.
I wanted Malachai Coraley there so.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
Well, it's it's easy when I've actually done a rookie
draft with you before, so I know where you will
actually you know, you know, make your picks rather than.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
Just theoretically, he's so good after the catch and Thor's
comp of Amari Rodgers notwithstanding, I just I really like
the player. I know the d Bowl comparisons are maybe
a little overdone, but like he's just one of those
guys who give this guy the ball, and it's easy
to scheme up short area touches for a receiver and
just let them do their thing.

Speaker 4 (49:00):
And he's one of those guys. So with him off
the board.

Speaker 6 (49:04):
Also a good feeder player sorry fits, but but also
a good feeder player for a young quarterback who we
assume is going to be coming in here after Aaron Rodgers.
So a guy throw it short to the guy and
let him work with it. So Pepo do that for
brock Party as well.

Speaker 3 (49:21):
Yeah, So with Corley off the board, I'm going to
turn to the other professional football team in New York
and go with Tyrone Tracy, the Giants running back, converted
wide receiver who has just some pretty special athleticism and yeah,
like he might need some time to grow into the
role of running back, considering that, you know, he was

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not doing it for a very long time at Purdue
after transferring from Iowa. But there's not much of a
depth chart for him to ascend. He's only got Devin
Singletary ahead of him, who's capable but certainly not special.
Eric Gray never really got a foothold in this offense
last year, so I think Tracy might be the passing

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down back for the Giants right away, and maybe there's
some early down upside.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
That makes a lot of sense. Yeah, bugs Tea, Yeah,
I mean.

Speaker 6 (50:16):
We talked about Tracy last week too. I think you
need to view more as a weapon than just a
running back. So because he played wide receiver a lot
of trick plays, they liked those guys. They took Wandale
are they you know, paid won Dale last year too,
so they're looking for that guy to fill that role.
I think I give me Jayleen McMillan the safest wide
receiver I feel like left in a rookie draft here,

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he ends up in Tampa Bay. Not the greatest spot, obviously,
because we have Rashad White that can catch a bout
of the backfield, paired with Mike Evans future Hall of
Famer Chris Godwin, who I like but showed a little
bit of slowing down last season. But I do think
that McMillan fits. I think he's immediate day one starter here.
I think he's gonna take this job in camp over
Trey Palmer, and he's gonna be on the field a lot.

(51:01):
That doesn't necessarily mean a ton because Jonathan Mingo was
on the field a lot last season, right, But I
think you know, the more you're on the field, the
more opportunities you have. And I think McMillan's the starter
pretty quick this season. So give me McMillan here.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
I pretty strongly considered McMillan with each of my last
two picks. I really think that's a great.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
Pick here late in the third round.

Speaker 1 (51:22):
I don't I don't want to put too much stock
in the fact that he was behind two other really
good receivers at Washington, Like he is a fairy talented
player in a decent landing spot.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
He got Day two draft capital. I think that's a
great pick.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
I made the mistake in one of my rookie drafts
of passing up on one of my personal favorites in
the back of the third and then he did not
get to me again another round. So I was gonna
take Odrick Estimate again, a guy who fell on raft
actual draft day, but just a prospect I loved. I
didn't care about the speed at the combine. I just
in watching him. He was one of my favorite players
to watch. I said it a thousand times. I think

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there's a role for Odric Estimate in the NFL and
at this point in the draft, and maybe even in
that backfield, I mean, Javonte Williams like still like with
the injuries he's dealt with, and you know, they they
will give different opportunities. I know Julium Gloughlin's there too.
Like there's there's a lot of you know, there's a
lot of carries in that backfield that are kind of
question marks right now. I'm not really sure where they're

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gonna go, and I like the player estimate, so I'm
gonna take him. He at the end of the third
quick recap here, Roman Wilson, Ray Davis, Camani, Vadell, Ben Sinnett,
Jermaine Burton, Troy Franklin, Luke McCaffrey, Bucky Irving, Malachi Coraley
Tyro and Tracy Jalen McMillan and Audric Estime. Now it's
to fits with the four oh one.

Speaker 3 (52:35):
Let's lead off with quarterback number seven, Spencer Rattler. And
I know it's not ideal that he fell into the
fifth round when a lot of people thought he might
be a Day two pick, but he did go to
a pretty good spot where Derek Carr's maybe under the
gun here because you know Derek Carr started to hear
the boo birds in the Big Easy last year, and
uh with good reason, like that that passing game just

(52:58):
did not click. And here comes Spencer Ratler, this intriguing
dual threat quarterback who really seemed to help himself with
the pre draft process. I don't know whether that documentary
that he did when he was a high school kid
hurt him, because apparently a lot of NFL teams did
not like the way he came off of that did.
But good lord, he was a high school kid. I mean,

(53:19):
what about like all the impressive media work he did
at the Combine and the senior ball where everyone who
talked to him was like blown away by how open
this kid was, how sharp he seemed, how like humble
and modest he he seems so like maybe this kid
really has grown and matured. So I'm not worried about

(53:39):
that stuff. Like I think he's become a pretty good ballplayer.
And we knew, We've known for a long time. The
tools are special, like he was this incredibly coveted quarterback
prospect for a good reason.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
I think it's a great pick. I want to if
if you were just laying out your rankings fits. Where
do you think Rattler should be going? What do you
mean like overall, Like like if it wasn't the combined
effort to do this draft, if you were kind of
writing out a mock draft, like where would you place him?

Speaker 4 (54:08):
Where?

Speaker 1 (54:08):
Where do you think is the right spot for him
to be going? You know, irrespective of like again, team.

Speaker 4 (54:13):
Needs yeah, back half of the third maybe.

Speaker 5 (54:16):
Yeah, I have been thirty five and he just went
thirty seven.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
I considered him in the back half of the third.

Speaker 1 (54:20):
I mean, I think everything you said about like, like,
of all the landing I have him in a campus
to Canton league where we really need a quarterback at
the NFL level, and he is one of our best options.
And this was one of my favorite landing spots he
could have gone to that you know, the fact that
he fell to round five isn't great, but the fact
that he went to the Saints, I think is like
as strong as you could have hoped for really in

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terms of getting an opportunity.

Speaker 4 (54:43):
Totally agree.

Speaker 6 (54:44):
But my big here, I'm gonna take Jatavian Sanders to
tight end from Texas into me. This is kind of
the end of the guys that I'm really pretty confident
in for this season. You know, Rattler, I'm not so
confident this season obviously Panics, not for production this season,
but in terms of the skill position guys, you know,

(55:05):
taking Sanders and knowing that Tommy Tremble is really the
only guy standing in his way, maybe a VET like
Ian Thomas. Tight End is the toughest position to adjust
to in the NFL coming out of college, so it
is harder for these guys to make it, which is
why I have Sonat and I have Sanders just a
little bit lower than I think most boards do. But

(55:26):
this is a team that is desperate for targets. We
talked about with Lagett. They moved up to get him.
They spent money on the old line, you know, they
they have invested now, they've invested in targets for young
So I think that this is a guy that can
end up starting if you need a tight end. I
think he's a pretty decent option in rookie draft this

(55:46):
year because there's not much left at that position. There's
maybe one other guy that I really kind of want,
not a ton left, though I'm.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
Not sure which is the other guy you want.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
I'm going to take a tight end, and at this
point in the draft, you know, round four, you're just
kind of taken swings. Anyway, I'm gonna pick eric All
obvious opportunity when I have left that I want. Yeah,
there's no abvious opportunity at the position in Cincinnati, and
it's a good offense, good quarterback to be paired with.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
It's just injury.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
I mean, if he stays healthy, this is an absolute steal.
I think Debro even with the injury concerns, has him
just outside his top twenty in his super Flex rookie rankings.
Just a really talented guy who, if he stays healthy,
will absolutely you know, be a great profit for me
at this price.

Speaker 2 (56:24):
So I'm happy to take Eric All.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
And he's kind of the last of the tight ends
at least that I would strongly consider or be really
happy to get at this point.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
So I'll send it to Fitz Britdy four oh four.

Speaker 3 (56:33):
Yeah, now you're just being a jerkworm and taking the
guys I've really wanted since Eric Hall. Like, I mean,
just as Kamani Videll won the Landing Spot lottery running back,
I think eric All want it at tight end going
to Cincinnati getting to work with Joe Burrell, having Jamar
Chase and t Higgins and Bogman's boy Jermaine Burton clear

(56:55):
things out deep, so like there's gonna be a lot.

Speaker 4 (56:58):
Of room to work underneath.

Speaker 3 (56:59):
I love that pick there, So I'm gonna have to
hurt you, worm and take a guy I know you like,
I'm gonna go with your boy, Tes Walker on the Ravens,
Devontes Walker. And honestly, the fact that the Ravens took
him early in Day three sort of is encouraging because
I know that Devontes.

Speaker 4 (57:20):
Walker is a really raw prospect.

Speaker 3 (57:22):
He is a size speed guy who can make some
acrobatic catches and seems to be pretty good at tracking
the deep ball, but basically he's really raw, like does
not have a lot of Power five football experience, just
like missed part of last year after transferring to North
Carolina because of eligibility issues, only played I think like

(57:43):
seven or eight games for the Tower Heels, So the
level of competition is going to be an adjustment. But
the fact that a very a team that is known
for smart drafting that they were willing to invest a
Round four pick on this guy really encourages me about
the outlook for Devonte's Walker.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
Great great kid too, like been through a lot of
adversity and just has like a great head on his shoulders,
and like all the interviews and stuff. Obviously I've watched
every second of it being a Ravens fan ever since
the draft, but like just a really like great story
and great kid who like to your point about being raw,
like has not had the opportunity to just focus entirely
on football like you would want, and so I'm really
excited to see what he does going forward.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
I am biased, though, so I Boggs, you're up.

Speaker 6 (58:25):
Next, give me Michael Pratt. And I know he's a
seventh round quarterback. You know, maybe we don't like that,
but this is still super flex and I hate Sean Clifford.
So I think that Michael Pratt immediately is going to
step in and be the backup quarterback to Jordan Love,
and that if he if Jordan Love gets hurt, the

(58:48):
keys to this offense are pretty damn good and I
think it's an easy it's an easy number two job
for him to win.

Speaker 2 (58:57):
And this it's super flex.

Speaker 6 (58:59):
This guy is going to be more valuable even if
He's only more valuable to the person rostering Jordan Love.
I think it's important. And what was the stat that
I said earlier, sixty seven qbs started in the NFL
last season, right, So it's not a crazy thought in
a super flex league to go out and get a backup,
especially for a good quarterback in a good offense.

Speaker 5 (59:21):
So I like Michael Pratt.

Speaker 6 (59:23):
I thought it was weird that he fell all the
way to the seventh but I love this landing spot
because I think the Packers were desperate for a good
backup QB.

Speaker 5 (59:30):
Sean Clifford was not going to.

Speaker 6 (59:31):
Get it done, and I really like Pratt landing there,
So give me Michael Pratt here.

Speaker 2 (59:35):
I like Pratt the player.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
I wasn't really thinking I was going to consider any
other quarterbacks once Rattler was off the board. I mean,
I guess it depends on the board shakes out fits.
Were you interested in taking another quarterback or were you
looking elsewhere at this point?

Speaker 3 (59:47):
Yeah, I mean I maybe earlier than I would like
for Pratt, but like, I think Pratt should be drafted
in a five round super flex draft, and I agree
that he is going to boot Sean Clifford. Right off
the Green Bay roster.

Speaker 5 (01:00:04):
Let's go.

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
I'm not trying to target fits here picking before him.
I'm hoping I'm not about to break his heart again,
but I am taking a badger in Allen.

Speaker 4 (01:00:15):
You did, you did.

Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
I'm not that sorry. I was fair in love and
fantasy football.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
But I you know, we talked in one of our
early shows through in the draft process, I was a
very big fan of Braylan Allen. And obviously the landing
spot is not what we were hoping for, and there
are knocks against him as a prospect, even you know,
irrespective of the landing spot, but he's just somebody that,
like I can't stop thinking about how much fune he
was to watch as a young freshman in the Big Ten.

(01:00:45):
I think there's talent in you know, maybe not of
every aspect of his game, but in certain aspects of
the game. I think he's really really talented. And he
still went in the fourth round. And you know, being
a high upside backup isn't always the worst thing for
a running back because you will get opportunities more often
than not.

Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
So I'm sorry to break.

Speaker 3 (01:01:04):
Your heart, that's okay, And just to piggyback on what
you're saying, W I mean you talked about seeing him
as a young freshman, young being the operative word. He
is going to enter the NFL at age twenty, and
I don't think he turns twenty one until January, so
he's going to play basically the entirety of his rookie
season or sit on the bench for the entirety of
his rookie season at age twenty, which gives him maybe

(01:01:28):
a longer runway to get sort of this thing shaken
out where he's sitting behind bris Hall for years and
years and just collecting cobwebs on the bench. And it
does suck that, Like the Jets not only took him,
but Isaiah Davis, who was some people's a sleeper, some
people like love and like I think some people in

(01:01:49):
Dynasty League still had hope for Israel Abanacanada, who's now
part of that logjam behind breshall on that depth chart.
So stop drafting running backs, chats, you're killing us here.
But yeah, so pretty impressive that I think brayln Allen
might have been the youngest player in the entire draft
this year and has more one hundred yard rushing games
than any other running back in this class, so not

(01:02:11):
a bad pick in the middle of the fourth round,
I'm gonna go with will Shipley, And to be fair,
I was kind of debating Braylan Allen versus Shipley in
my rookie rankings. You know, Shipley's got a nice versatile
skill set. I think he could be a passing down
back if you needed him to be, and I think
he could be an early down back if you needed
him to be. I don't think he's a great prospect,

(01:02:33):
but I think he's a solid prospect, and he went
to a pretty good place in Philadelphia where they've got
a nice offensive infrastructure.

Speaker 6 (01:02:43):
For my pick here, I'm gonna stick with the running back.
I'm gonna take Dylan Lobby, the running back out of
New Hampshire that ended up with the Raiders. And this
is because I think there's opportunity. I do think Zamir
White's the guy, and I went down this rabbit hole
with debro in a text the other day because I
think he's He's the high man on.

Speaker 5 (01:03:02):
Zamir White.

Speaker 6 (01:03:04):
I do think White's the guy, but I do think
there's opportunity here. And let's remember, you know, Austin Eckler
came out of the small schools and undersized running back
as that was productive in both the run game in
the past game. Right, I think it's the same scenario
for Lobby here. Doesn't mean that he's gonna make it. No,
there's guys like this draft that every single year that
end up on special teams and do nothing. Eric Gray
is a guy that fits mentioned earlier that I think

(01:03:26):
fits that bill a little bit as well.

Speaker 5 (01:03:28):
But I think Lobby's got a.

Speaker 6 (01:03:29):
Chance because behind Zamir White it is Amra Abdullah and
Alexander Madison who just fumbled again. So I think that
there is enough opportunity for touches immediately for Lobby to make.

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
Him interesting here. So I'll go ahead and select him
in the fourth.

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
I'll keep the running back train rolling with Isaac Garndo
to the forty nine ers. You know, sometimes when the
Niners invests in a running back later in the draft,
it's Tierry and Davis Price, and sometimes it's Elijah Mitchell.
And I don't know which one Grena is gonna be,
but the speed makes seem such an obvious fit in
this offense if he gets the opportunity. You know, McCaffrey
has had injury problems in the past. He didn't last
year really, but you know he's had them at times.

(01:04:08):
So a fast guy in at Kyle Shanahan offense, I
wily take the risk here and send it over to Fits.

Speaker 3 (01:04:15):
Well, you broke the streak of snaking me unpicks worm because.

Speaker 5 (01:04:19):
Will you just snake me?

Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
Oh? Did?

Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
Yeah? So, I mean it was just Grenda was buried
behind Braylan Allen and on the Wisconsin depth chart for
a while. I think he's just kind of a straight
line guy. But whatever, I'm going with Malik Washington here,
prolific producer for the Virginia Cavaliers last year after not
really doing too much early on in a terrible offense

(01:04:42):
at Northwestern University, really broke out and he goes to
an interesting offense with Miami. Not a lot of room
for him to contribute in your one behind Tyreek Hill,
Jalen Waddle and now Odell Beckham junior.

Speaker 4 (01:04:56):
But you know, a sort of draft than stash guy.

Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
You actually burned both of us Fits because I was
between Grendo and watching and I was like, well he
went in the sixth round.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
He's behind a couple of receivers.

Speaker 1 (01:05:08):
I could probably get him one more, you know, a
group of three away, and apparently I could not, So
I think that's a good pick there.

Speaker 6 (01:05:15):
Literally the end of a tier for me was Malike Washington.
So I'll take Jacob Cowing with this next pick. I
think it's the same idea as when Lake Washington. You
look at Jacob Cowing and the depth chart in San Francisco,
he's buried.

Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
You know.

Speaker 6 (01:05:28):
It's Iu Debo, Pierre Saw, Ronnie Bell was great last year,
Joan Jennings has a lot of experience, and then probably
Jacob Cowing and that's if he pushes off Trent Taylor,
Danny Gray and then kind of like Chris Conley, right,
So he's got an uphill battle. But as a fourth
round pick, I think he's more guaranteed of a roster
spot than some of these other guys down the board.
So and I like, I love watching Jake Cowing play

(01:05:51):
undersized guy lots of speed, could be a special teamer
as well and give you a little bit of juice there.
So I'll go with Jacob Kellen with my last pick
in the fourth I.

Speaker 1 (01:05:59):
Had to make sure I got at least one Raven,
so I'm gonna take rashen A Lee here scored a
lot of touchdowns in his college career.

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
You know, I don't think Keaton Mitchell.

Speaker 1 (01:06:08):
I haven't seen an update recently, but given when his
injury took place, I don't think he's gonna be at
full speed at the start of the season.

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
Derek Henry is thirty years old.

Speaker 1 (01:06:15):
They said, like throughout the entire draft process, they're basically
guaranteed they were going to draft a running back at
some point. Ali was the one they took. Again, he's
been productive. I'm it's the end of the fourth round
in the super Flex draft, right, you're just taking lottery
tickets at this point. I'm happy to take Ali in
a backfield that I know wants to run a lot
and has some question marks in terms of, you know, longevity,

(01:06:37):
I'll say not durability, belongevity.

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
At the other spots there.

Speaker 1 (01:06:40):
So quick recap around four Spencer Ratler, Jatavian Sanders, Eric
Al Davontees Walker, Michael Pratt, Braylan Allen will Shipley, Dlan Louby,
Isaac Garndo, Malik Washington, Jacob Cowing and rashen A Lee.

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
And now it's to fits for the final round round five.

Speaker 3 (01:06:56):
Kid Stover, solid tight end prospect, going to be paired
with a really good quarterback in CJ.

Speaker 4 (01:07:02):
Stroud.

Speaker 6 (01:07:05):
I will go with Anya Smith, the wide receiver out
of a m ending up in Philly. Lots and lots
of speed and unteachable trait and a good system to
be in. And you know it's he's competing with the
ghost of Devonte Parker, fellow rookie Johnny Wilson, and burnout
Paris Campbell. So I think there's a potential for opportunity

(01:07:26):
quickly for.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
I'll take another tight end here, the uber athletic, THEO
Johnson got you know, drafted in the fourth round to
the Giants.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
Obviously Darren Waller a lot of strong rumors.

Speaker 1 (01:07:36):
Or official I don't actually remember if it's the very
strong rumors about retiring. So an opportunity there and he's
just crazy athletics. So I'll take THEO Johnson.

Speaker 3 (01:07:44):
I'm going to take at five oh four Johnny Wilson.
And here's my hope, Like there is not a lot
of room for him to contribute right away with the
Philadelphia Eagles, but my hope is that he eventually does
convert to tight end and all of a sudden he
becomes of.

Speaker 4 (01:07:58):
Real value where you're getting him.

Speaker 3 (01:08:00):
Because, like I don't know, the upside for Johnny Wilson
is maybe like a seven hundred receiving yard season at
wide receiver, that's not very valuable. But if he winds
up giving that to you a tight end, that's immensely valuable.
So here's hoping for a position switch.

Speaker 6 (01:08:18):
I'm gonna go with bub Means, the wide receiver out
of Pittsburgh ending up on the New Orleans Saints. Our
boy deepro actually called this in my seven round mock.
I gave him an opportunity. I was like, I'm on
the last pick with the Saints. Who do you think
they throw a dart on? I gave him a list.
He goes, I kind of like bub Means, so he
called this, but he went at one fifty two, you know,

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one hundred picks before the draft ended, one hundred and
five picks before the draft ended.

Speaker 5 (01:08:44):
So I think the Saints kind of like him.

Speaker 6 (01:08:46):
And as we know, outside of Chrys o'lave, it's Rashid
Shaheed who I like, and I like at Perry, a
big body wide receiver, but I think Means offers a
little bit more so, I think there's opportunity for him
to get a little a look at least kind of early.

Speaker 2 (01:09:02):
Here, I'll go with Jamari Thrash guy.

Speaker 1 (01:09:04):
I liked watching a Louisville and you know, the Browns
have made a lot of swings in like that round
three to five range on wide receiver recently, like you
think about like Seth Tillman recently. The fact that they
keep taking swings tells me that they think there's still
you know, roles to be filled in their wide receiver room.
So getting the you know, the round five capitol, I'll
take Thrash because I just like the player fits your.

Speaker 4 (01:09:24):
Up, Joe Milton. Time to bring up Azuka Joe here.

Speaker 3 (01:09:28):
I am obviously betting on arm talent, and this is
a guy who can put a ball into orbit when
he wants to. I mean, like might have the best
arm of any quarterback alive, and like that includes any
starting NFL quarterback. Like this guy's rocket is just insane.
Obviously he needs some cleanup work because he is nuke

(01:09:50):
La Luge from Bull Durham. You don't know where the
ball's going. Hopefully they can work on the mechanics and
down the line, he could develop into an interesting project
at quarterback.

Speaker 6 (01:10:05):
Give me, I'm going to back it up here, give
me Jordan Travis. I talked about a quarterback that may
need to throw short to some options here with Malachai
Corley earlier, and maybe that is Jordan Travis. Because Aaron
Rodgers is my age, not a good spot to be
in the NFL. Tyrod Taylor is I think, still closer
to me than he is Worm, so that's not great either.

(01:10:27):
And there's just they traded Zach Wilson. There's not a
plan on the roster beyond this season at the position.
So maybe Jordan Travis sits and learns and is thrust
into a role fairly quickly here.

Speaker 5 (01:10:39):
So and I like his leadership, you know, good.

Speaker 6 (01:10:42):
Leader FSU, undefeated until the bowl game, and I think
he's underrated as a QB as well. So I'll go
Jordan Travis with my second to last pick here.

Speaker 1 (01:10:52):
By the way, Tyrod Taylor was my favorite college player
of all time because before I was a URP, I
was a Virginia Tech fan growing up because both my
both my rants went to VT and it was just
the right age where I loved watching Tyron Taylor play.

Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
I will be taking Jared Wiley.

Speaker 1 (01:11:08):
This is really like a lot more tight end heavy
than I planned to be in this draft. But I
mean the case is obvious, like possible successor to Travis
Kelcey in an offense with Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes. Like,
I'm just happy to take that risk here, So nothing
more really needs to be said about whiley I don't
think fits your up.

Speaker 4 (01:11:25):
I'll take Brendan Rice.

Speaker 3 (01:11:27):
Jerry's kid, you know, like it it's not great that
he fell into the seventh round, but he did not
end up on a team with an insurmountable wide receiver
depth chart. With the Chargers, you know, I know they've
brought in what DJ Shark, They've got Josh Palmer, Ladd mcconkee,
but like Quenton Johnston, who knows if he's even gonna

(01:11:47):
be on their roster a year from now. I think
there's a place for Brendan Rice to be like the
fourth or fifth receiver here and maybe work his way up.

Speaker 5 (01:11:57):
Just the biggest snipe in this draft fits.

Speaker 6 (01:12:00):
Brendan Rice is absolutely the last player I even want
to take in this draft, and I love the opportunity
with the Chargers for him. I think he is another
dude that's underrated. Very physical, not like his dad a lot,
but very very physical. White out love him. That's why
they took him. They're gonna run the ball a lot.
I'll take the O Johnson, you will. I took him

(01:12:22):
at five o three.

Speaker 5 (01:12:24):
Oh my god, you took the O Johnson.

Speaker 1 (01:12:26):
I can't believe we got almost the entire draft without
that happening. I was the entire draft season without that happening,
and then here it happened.

Speaker 2 (01:12:33):
I just did.

Speaker 6 (01:12:33):
I totally did not see it. I don't know why
I was looking for. You went so quick on it,
and then too, Johnny Wilson. I just didn't see him.
All right, give me Jawan Jackson opportunity in Tennessee. But
like I said, I don't really this is how much
this Brendan Rice pick threw me off. But give me
Jakwan Jackson. He's the next guy up on my board.
I guess you know there's opportunity in the slot because

(01:12:55):
Draylan Burks has sucked, So I guess that's just a
dart throw maybe on Jackson. But I really don't like
a lot of the guys left.

Speaker 1 (01:13:03):
Yeah, I really really don't like any I was also
eyeing Rice for my last pick. I don't really like anybody.
I'm gonna take Theo Johnson and I'm just kidding. I'm
gonna take Jordan Whittington simply because the Rams just traded
away Ben' skronic earlier today that we recorded this and
maybe opens up a little something for him. And you know, again,

(01:13:24):
I don't this is a point of the draft where
I'm not really excited about anybody.

Speaker 2 (01:13:27):
Might as well, I'll take.

Speaker 1 (01:13:28):
A Texas guy for for Bogman to wrap things up here.
So we got through sixty picks guys before we get
out of here. Any main takeaways, whether it's positionally or
a player who went you know, particularly high or low,
is already kind of one thing that happened in this
draft that stood out.

Speaker 3 (01:13:44):
Fits Well, you're repeated snaking of me. You're off my
Christmas card list? Worm No, Like, I.

Speaker 4 (01:13:52):
Don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:13:52):
I mean, I didn't think it was that unexpected as
far as where guys went positionally, Like, I didn't think
there were really any egregious reaches. Things pretty much seem normal, Like,
I don't know, maybe we've just done so many mocks together,
but like everything was ordered in kind of a nice

(01:14:12):
logical way.

Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
To me, yeah, I would kind of agree with that.

Speaker 6 (01:14:16):
What do you think, bugs, I think, you know, just
making the point that we made in the first round
was big of like, these are the eight guys that
we would take, and you know, we're not pushing anybody
else up there.

Speaker 5 (01:14:27):
We get it.

Speaker 6 (01:14:28):
It's not gonna happen that way in every single draft,
probably in most drafts because of the way the board
falls right in the way the positional needs and values
of other teams in your league. But there is a
clear tier at eight, So we just made that clear.
And I think taking shots on qbs and super flex
leagues late is smarter. It's a smarter strategy. Even saw

(01:14:48):
the Patriots doing the real NFL for a long time
and then trade away a QB that developed behind the goat,
So uh, not a bad strategy to have in.

Speaker 1 (01:14:56):
Super fu Let me ask you this as the final question,
because one strategy I really like to employ that has
worked out well for me in the past is if
I have a late round, first find somebody who I
don't think their team is going to be that good
next year, and try and trade it to them and say, hey,
if you want to help now, I'll give you this
first for next year's first This is a group though,
at the back of the first round that I do

(01:15:17):
really like, like I like Lad Mcconkeye's every Worthy and
Brian Thomas. Would you be trying to employ that strategy
this year, Bogman or do you think the back end
of the first round is strong enough that if you
have a pick there you don't want to trade in
next year, which which the class is supposed to be
strong at running back but doesn't look that strong otherwise.

Speaker 2 (01:15:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:15:33):
Look, if I'm looking for a wide out, I definitely
don't want to trade out. Yeah, but if I'm looking
for a QB, it's either Penn next year sitting on
or bon Nix, who's a big question mark in the
team context isn't great. So I think if I'm looking
for a wide receiver in particular, or some of those
running backs fall and that's what I need, then yes,
I would want to stay and not trade that.

Speaker 5 (01:15:54):
I think in general that's a good strategy to have though.

Speaker 6 (01:15:56):
So this year, though, like you mentioned, the talent is deep,
especially at wide receiver, so positionally it depends a little bit,
but for the most part, no, probably, I'd want to
stick and take some of these guys fit the same question.

Speaker 3 (01:16:09):
You make the key point that you're looking for someone
who's probably going to be picking early in the following
year's draft, because you do have to in assessing the
value of these picks. You have to factor in that
if you're trading a twenty twenty four pick for twenty
twenty five.

Speaker 4 (01:16:24):
Pick, you're losing a year of production.

Speaker 3 (01:16:26):
You're getting nothing from that twenty twenty five pick in
twenty twenty four. Someone a user just asked me that question, like,
why on our trade value chart do we have the
twenty twenty five picks valued so much lower than the
twenty twenty four picks. Is it because the twenty twenty
five class is terrible? I just said, no, it's because
you have to account for them not doing anything for

(01:16:47):
you this year. Like those picks will gain value as
time goes on and it gets closer to the twenty
twenty five draft, But for now, yeah, like to do
it end of the twenty twenty four first for an
early twenty twenty five first round. I think it's a
reasonable idea if you are not hell bent on getting
a wide receiver because that's where the value is pretty

(01:17:09):
much at the end of the first round.

Speaker 1 (01:17:11):
I did this in our work league last year and
worked out amazingly well because I went from the one
to ten, which I believe was Quentin Johnston to the
one oh four this year, which.

Speaker 2 (01:17:19):
Was Malik Neighbors, so worked out very well.

Speaker 1 (01:17:22):
That was not a trade with Deebro, which is rare
to say because most of the trades are in that
league that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:27):
He's addicted to trading that of debro one.

Speaker 1 (01:17:30):
This is a long episode, but obviously we got through
a ton of players, so I think that was great.
Thank you everybody for tuning in and sticking with us
through all five rounds for Bogman and Fitz. Thank you
everybody for tuning in, and we'll see again next time.
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