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May 8, 2024 72 mins

Uncover the hidden gems in the 2024 undrafted rookie class as Derek Brown and Thor Nystrom rank each NFL team from 32 to 1 in this essential guide for fantasy football dynasty managers. Discover which teams have made the savviest moves to bolster their squads and find out who could make a fantasy impact sooner than expected. The Pros will tell you!

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Introduction - 0:00:00
Team No. 32 - 0:01:40 
Team No. 31 - 0:05:20 
Team No. 30 - 0:07:35 
Team No. 29 - 0:12:20 
Team No. 28 - 0:14:22 
Team No. 27 - 0:15:30 
Team No. 26 - 0:17:25 
Team No. 25 - 0:19:35 
Team No. 24 - 0:24:40
Team No. 23 - 0:28:20
Team No. 22 - 0:29:27
Team No. 21 - 0:32:01 
Team No. 20 - 0:34:53
Team No. 19 - 0:37:40
Team No. 18 - 0:39:26
Team No. 17 - 0:40:28
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Team No. 16 - 0:45:15
Team No. 15 - 0:49:34
Team No. 14 - 0:57:08
Team No. 13 - 1:01:48
Team No. 12 - 1:05:06
Team No. 11 - 1:08:14
Outro - 1:12:07

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome back to the Fantas Pros NFL Draft Show. I'm
your host Derek Brown and with me as always, the
Minnesota Madman Thorne Einstrom. And on today's show, we're gonna
discuss UDFA classes. Baby, I'm gonna go through all thirty
two NFL teams, starting at the bottom, going all the
way to the top, discussing all of these guys that
fell out of the NFL Draft but still landing on

(00:23):
NFL rosters. Thor is gonna run through all the draft prospects,
what he thinks about these teams, these signings. I'm gonna
get it, gonna give you the fantasy angle here, the
dynasty angle. Are these players that maybe make it under
one of your taxi squads and possibly deeper dynasty leagues, Thor, Dude,
we're getting into the nitty gritty here. Man. I thought

(00:44):
that we couldn't like peel back this onion of this
class any further, but here we are. Dude.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Yeah, my UDFA class rankings dropped on Fantasy Pros today.
You have been deep in the weeds on some of
these these deep dynasty sleepers. It's an exciting thing to
talk about. I mean, you know, that our listeners out there,
they're sickos just like we are, and we're about to
dive deeper I think than probably any show out there is.
So I'm excited to get into it.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
H Dude. We're gonna bring up a ton of names
that I will be absolutely transparent that I didn't even
know until we started prepping for this show, and I'm
diving into their games. I'm looking for film on some
of these guys that we're going to bring up, especially
for some of these are small schools, dude. But we're
going to get into it without further ado. Man, Let's
kick this bab boy off. Let's light this candle, who
got the lowest grade? Who comes in at the thirty

(01:35):
second team for their UDFA class for you.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Yeah. The last ranked UDFA class in the NFL this
year is the Atlanta Falcons, who followed up oh ra
rather babbling draft weekend with basically sleeping through the UDFA process.
They only got three guys that were on my pre
draft five hundred and none, none of whom were in
my pre draft top three fifty. There is only a

(02:02):
couple names worth mentioning, and there's only one that is
highly intriguing. That's Isjaia Wooden Junior, the receiver from Southern Utah,
Dee Bright. I know that you're gonna talk about him,
so I'll mention the second one. Austin Stagner, the tight
end from Oklahoma, started his career at Oklahoma under Lincoln Riley,
had a one year stopover in South Carolina, finished it,

(02:23):
went back to Oklahoma to finish it out. Kind of
a sad story. He was a top seventy five overall
recruit who in twenty twenty was tremendous in that Lincoln
Riley offense and looked like a future star. Looked like
he could be one of the top tight ends whenever
he came out. But that fall his season ended early
because he had a staff infection and he ends up

(02:46):
losing thirty five pounds, needed surgery, and they said he
could have lost his leg in it. It's inspirational that
he came back at all and is playing football and
has been since, but he did not come back as
the same player. The last three active seasons, he's had
no more than two hundred and ten receiving yards in
any of those seasons. And he was given an opportunity.

(03:08):
You know. I mean at Oklahoma, denzelth Carolina and then
Oklahoma again. He has the frame sixty six two fifty
four and still has solid athleticism or decent you know,
heading to the NFL sixty eight percent of athleticism. But
I don't know if he has anything left but deeper,
I think the more interesting name is is Isaiah Wooden Junior. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
I agree with that wide receiver out of Southern Utah.
I mean, look smaller guy, five to seven, one seventy six,
but you look at his utility and some of the
numbers just jump off the page. For I mean two
point seventy four two point six four yards per rout
run And I get it as a smaller school at
Southern Utah, but I think he makes this roster dude.
I mean you highlighted in your article he also should

(03:51):
offer the Atlanta Falcons some return utility as far as
with kicks and punts and stuff. But the other parts
of his game he tested well. I mean you're talking
about an athlete seriously, dude, Like ran a freaking four
three five ninety ninth percentile in both twenty yard ten
yard splits and the vert forty.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
And a half inch vert that kid jumps out of
the building.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
So really the size doesn't matter. Like when you go
to forty four inch vert, you're five to seven. I
mean you're jumping to the height of somebody that like
maybe say somebody that's five eleven six foot that doesn't
have a very good vert. You're still getting up in
the same kind of air rarefied air there. So I
mean it's it's good stuff. Man. I think that he
could make this roster, and if he does that, there's

(04:37):
not a lot of names that stick out on this
receiving depth chart for Atlanta behind Drake London, Darnel Mooney,
and Rondel Moore, Like who's he competing with? What? Ray,
Ray McLeod, Caderil Hodge, these are the Warriors. So definitely
a guy that I think he can make the roster
and I won't be surprised, you know, he carves out
a pretty decent roll or pushes rondel Moore, who to

(04:59):
this point in his career has been a massive disappointment
considering where he went in the NFL draft. So you're
telling me the Atlanta Falcons gave up pretty much nothing
to get Rondel Moore, would I be that shocked if
Wooden was starting in the slot in Week seventeen coming
up this season. Nope, not at all, dude. But heading
up this list some more. Who makes the next spot

(05:20):
for UDFA rankings?

Speaker 2 (05:21):
Number thirty one is the Los Angeles Chargers, who I
thought had a great draft, but they as not as
inspiring work in the UDFA process. No prospect in my
top three point fifty. They did have five that were
in my pre draft top five hundred. The interesting names
here for me were Jim Harbass signed one of his

(05:42):
former Michigan Boys, Carson Barnhardt. I projected him as a guard,
that's where I think he's headed at the NFL level,
but he spent time at both right tackle predominantly the
last couple of years, but last year he also had
one hundred and eighty six naps at left tackle and
one hundred and ninety four right guard. They were kicking
him everywhere just to plug holes and to make room
for people that Darius Henderson didn't start the season in

(06:04):
that lineup and then came in, and so they were
shuffling pieces around, and in so doing, Carson barneheard showed
a little bit bit of versatility. Like I said, I
think he's going to be a guard at the next level,
but he at least has the break glass in case
of emergency tackle utility. The only other guy, Zach Hines,
I thought could be maybe a blocking tight end sixty six,
two fifty nine. I'm not sure about more than that,

(06:26):
but not a ton here to talk about either for
the Chargers.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
Yeah, I agree, Hines. I'll I'll just lop him off
my list because for me with tight ends and this
kind of this will be a consistent theme throughout this
entire episode. If you were not athletic a tight end,
I don't care about you in fantasy. If you run
four the slower than a four to eight in fantasy,
that's basically the coffin Neil. You can name on one

(06:51):
hand over the last ten to fifteen years how many
tight ends have been Fantasy relevant and ran four eight
forties or slower. Athletics is the easiest thing to tie
to not only fantasy production at tight end, but high
end fantasy production. So all these guys were going to
discuss here. If you don't, there's a DFA signing you
like for your NFL team, and it's a tight end

(07:11):
and you don't hear me bring them up, then it's
probably because they're not athletic or not athletic enough to
be fantasy relevant or at least projected that way, especially
when we're not tying draft capital to him. So I
agree with you on Hinzvan. I mean five flat forty
two point two ras new Thank you, all right? Moving
on man, Next team who is up here? As far
as getting the thirtieth spot.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
That'd be the Houston Texans, who I would say that
they slept through the UDFA process, except they signed the
Jankie Twins. So it's like they signed the Jankie Twins
from South Dakota State and then they more or less
slept through the rest of it. Interesting decisions like I
like that signing by the Texans. I thought it was
a rather interesting or maybe I should say peculiar decision

(07:54):
by the Jankie Twins themselves to both go to the Texans.
Those kids ripped up the FCS and by the way,
for people out there that don't know FCS football, South
Dakota State was a juggernaut last year. They were the
undefeated champions in the FCS. The Jankie Twins Jackson had
thirty six hundred and seventy seven yards twenty nine touchdowns
in his career two hundred and forty four catches. Jayden

(08:16):
had one hundred and seventy catches, twenty eight hundred yards
and thirty touchdowns. They're basically in the same physical package
shicks two to twelve, and they're the ras that the
athletics scorers were identical as well. They're identical twins. They
were both sixty seven percentile in terms of that. But
I thought it was peculiar because you're no longer going

(08:36):
to be teammates with the Texans Jankie twins. You are
now competing with one another for a job. The Murphy
twins would be an example, we'll get to them later
on of twins who broke up signing with different teams,
one with the Vikings, one with the Dolphins try to
juice the odds of making the roster. I don't think
both these kids do, but I think one of them,

(08:57):
whoever performs better, could have a shot on the depth chart.
But yeah, that was about the extent what the Texans did.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
Yeah, and for the Jankee twins, I kind of hopped
over them as far as a lot of these UDFA
guys because there's gonna be plenty of wide receivers. I
just looked at their analytical profiles, like they tested pretty well, man,
no doubt about that. Just looking at their deeper analytical profiles,
these super small school FCS guys, like I want to
see you break out in a monstrous magical way to

(09:28):
kind of project like overcoming the difference in the competition.
That's why I was so high on Christian Watson because
you could stack his numbers up against all the wide
receivers when he came out in FBS and he was
like top five and yards per route run, all these
different things. And when I looked at their analytical profiles,
like Jaden never eclipsed two point one four yards per

(09:50):
out run until his final season at South Dakota State.
Jackson was two point eight three in his third season.
Like that's okay, but it's not amazing. The one guy
I'll bring up here and I want to get your
take on him for British Brooks. Interesting guy. I'm not
telling you that he's amazing, but five ten two, nineteen
eight point eight raz a lot of his his numbers.

(10:13):
I think he's more of a grinder backs. I'll say
that I don't think he's a massive explosive guy, but
forty six point four breakaway run rate, three point two
yards of to contact per attempt over one hundred and
thirty nine carries at unc the testing like Perks on
my ears, so does the size. And if you look
behind Joe Mixon, I mean yes, like I still love

(10:33):
Damian Pierce, don't get me wrong, but after that, it's
who we worried about, Like could this guy ascend him
be the RB three on this depth chart? I think
it's possible, Like he's competing with Daria Gumbowale, Juir Jordan,
who's really going to be a returner, so don't even
worry about him. In the running back room. JJ Taylor's
bounced around the league. My former love list guy who

(10:55):
again has bounced around the league, Jared Doaks. I mean, really,
it's not hard to Quinton see a possibility that British
Brooks could be a guy that you need to put
in your taxi squad because he could be the RB
three on the Houston Texans roster after they break camp.
And we all know one of the most injury prevalent
because of the beating they take on a percarey basis.

(11:17):
Thoor is running back. What are your thoughts on Brooks.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
I don't see it with Brooks at least as a
running back. Yeah, I mean like last year he was
on a milk cart in there. He's gotten bypassed by
Omari and Hampton. That the year before he broke a
couple explosive runs coming in off the bench. But concerns
me for a fifth year player coming in who over
his career combined those five seasons had eight hundred and

(11:41):
forty eight yards in college in pretty good offensive environments
at UNC, playing with some of those guys the light boxes.
Before last year in the phil Ango scheme, he was
consistently beaten out by other guys. So I would be
surprised if he ends up surprising the NFL. But he
does have the testing.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Yeah, I don't disagree, man, I mean definitely a guy that.
I mean the other thing we're talking about with a
lot of UDFA guys, it's like, if you couldn't start
on your collegiate team, then the likelihood that you're gonna
start on an NFL franchise is even lower. So again,
long shots with all these guys. But moving on, who's
the next team who makes the twenty ninth spot in

(12:22):
your UDFA class rankings.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
The Cleveland Browns come in twenty ninth For me, JV
and Cohen, the guard from Miami is the most interesting guy,
highest ranked on my board, the only guy that they
got on my pre draft top three hundred and fifty.
There was a shot he was going to get drafted,
and there was people that were higher on Cohen than me.
He is a guy who could compete for a job.
The rest of these guys, I don't know about. Jalen Sundall,

(12:46):
at least from North Dakota State, another FCS kit has
some positional versatility. He played outside in college and some
project him to center, some project him to guard. I
had ranked him as a center. He's in both in
terms of the experience he had there at NDSU, another
really good FCS program then also is testing six '

(13:07):
five three h one ninety third percentile athleticism. But outside
it looked like they were just shooting on trades. Like
Amari and Brown. The wide receiver from South Carolina didn't
do a lot in college. He does have four to
three speed, so you're just bringing him in to give
him a look. Aiden Robbins the top running back they
signed the UDFA. Speaking of guys who their last season
of college got on a milk carton because they got

(13:28):
beaten out. Uh. Aiden Robbins had transferred up to BYU,
hoping to on the bigger stage, to move to the
big twelve, that that he was gonna, you know, make
his mark and everything like that, and who knows, maybe
even contending to get drafted. He certainly has a size
fort six two two thirty seven sixty six percentile athleticism.
But he was a backup running back last year his

(13:49):
last season at BYU. Earlier in his career at UNLV,
he was a tackle breaking machine, So you know, can
he can he turn back the clock on that? What
to see? But the rest of this this, I thought
it was pretty uninspiring.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
Yeah, I thought they I just think they just continued
following suit with their their overall draft class. I thought
their overall draft class was very under uninspiring or felt
the same thing with their UDFA signings. On to the
next team. Man who's at twenty eight The New York Giants.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
They got one guy that I'm I think can push
for a spot here that I'm intrigued by. That's Case Rodgers,
the defensive lineman from Oregon, six foot four and a
half two ninety four with ninety eight percentile RAS size
of justin athleticism. I thought, that's an interesting guy to
bring in the rest of this class. There's a couple

(14:39):
of dart throws, you know, again on athletic trades, but
but not guys that I think are are gonna end
up having a decent shot to make it. The Giants
were in during this NFL draft where a record forty
three trades were made. The Giants were the one team
that was sort of just sitting back on their hands.
They didn't make one of them. They stayed in their
slots the entire time, and it seemed like that passive

(15:01):
approach carried over into the UDFA process with the with
the exception of mister Rogers, of course.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
Yeah, I don't disagree, man. The only skilled guy that
they signed for UDFA was John Giles, and he didn't
really pop at Western Florida. So it's like, if you
can't handle it there again, the chances of you popping
in the NFL probably not gonna happen. But speaking, you know,
heading to the Midwest. Who's popping for the Green Day
Packers at your twenty seventh ranked team.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Yeah, the Packers did come out with my top ranked
long snappers, so I'll give them that. They had the
headset we're going deep. That's Peter Bowden, and they had
a head start on him because Peter Bowden went to Wisconsin,
so they got they got the shop local discount on all.
Mister Peter Bowden. Uh, he absolutely could stick, you know

(15:50):
as as far as that, so they probably pulled a
roster guy there. The only other guy worth mentioning to
me is trent A Jones from Michigan, and merely because
trent A Jones. It's actually interesting, deebra. You recall last
summer when Jim Nagy came out and said that he
had more than five Michigan offensive linemen on the Senior

(16:10):
Bowl watch list for this for you know what, the
process that we just went through, and the reason for
that is trent A Jones in particular, decided to stick
around at Michigan, even though he entered each of the
past several seasons as their sixth offensive lineman, decided to stick.
He could have started anywhere else in the nation, but
decided to stick around and he did end up getting

(16:32):
pt you know during the shuffling the injuries. Like I mentioned,
I project him as a guard and I don't think
he's he's going to be able to do the oh
I'll plug the tackle thing at the next level. Six
foot four, three zero five seventy fourth percentile athlete. But
you know, he was coached well, he was very valuable
to Michigan, and you bring him in and maybe you

(16:53):
get a backup interior offensive lineman out of him. But
that was about all I saw in this class.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
Yeah, nobody really checking the boxes for me. I mean,
like again, just messiahs Winson, Like, I'm sorry, you're one
point five as sir, I'm moving on blocking tight end. Yeah, exactly.
Just not gonna sit here and you know, percolate the
senses and make you want to draft him or put
him on a dynasty squad man. But who's number twenty six?
Moving on to the next team.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
New England Patriots. Only one name for me that that
has my interest here and that's Johntrey Hunter, the linebacker
from Georgia State. You know, every year in the draft
we get weird evaluations. We get fascinating evaluations, we get
airtight evaluations, we get not interested evaluation. You run the gamut.

(17:41):
Hunter was was one of those weird ones for me
this process. But I am pleased for him that he's
at least gonna get a shot here because he has
a really interesting profile. He's a terrible I'll start with
the bad. He's a terrible athlete. He cannot be put
in coverage. The only times he went out there, and
this was in the G five, he got lit up.

(18:02):
You cannot have him back in coverage. And in addition
to that, as if that's not enough, he missed a
metric ton of tackles the past couple of years might
be the worst in this class, like in the entire
draft class this year at linebacker at that he missed
fifty tackles the last two years combined. So you're like, bor,
why are you even talking about this guy? And why
did the Patriots even say I was just about to

(18:22):
ask that, what do you like about him?

Speaker 1 (18:24):
Then?

Speaker 2 (18:24):
This is why John Trey Hunter is really really good
at one thing, and one thing only. He is skilled
at getting after the quarterback. You send that kid on
the blitzes and he knows what he is doing. He
gets through the creases, he can bounce off the glancing shots,
and then he is gonna get after that quarterback. He

(18:44):
piled up the pressures, piled up the sacks down there
at Georgia State in the Sun Belt. Can that skill?
Can it overcome the rest of it? Can? Will he
be able to prove to New England and Camp that
I could become potentially a situation pass rusher that you
could use. He's gonna have to because the rest of
it's not gonna play and the lack of tackling ability.

(19:07):
You wonder if at the NFL level, if he can
even be on the special teams. You know with that.
But like I said, he does have a real skill
for getting after the quarterback.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
I mean two point six ras. His technique better be
freaking fire man. Because of the athleticism's that bad and
the technique doesn't play up, He's not gonna last much longer.
Aft to Camp, Dude, head to number twenty five. Who
is the twenty fifth ranked team for you?

Speaker 2 (19:30):
The Indianapolis Colts coming at twenty five. The best player
they got in the UDFA Keton Slovas from BYU. The
afore mentioned BYU via Pitt via USC, and USC was
the place where he had success for one season. In fact,
after that freshman season, this we gotta go all the
way back to twenty nineteen pre COVID era. That's when

(19:52):
Keyton Slovas went nuts as a freshman at USC, dropped
thirty five hundred passing yards and thirty touchdowns on seventy
two percent on completions. And then in the pre draft
process he tested as a ninety third percentile athlete in
a decent physical package six foot two and a half
two twenty three. The problem is everything in between the
two things that just stated, the seasons in between that

(20:15):
he ended up losing the job at USC, gotten banged up,
but then you know the other quarterbacks that they had
ends up losing that. And then he went about his journey.
First to pit that was the post Jordan Addison year.
He badly struggled there. Then he goes to BYU, badly
struggled there as well. Can he sort of turned back
the clock to what he was doing as a freshman,

(20:36):
which was in an air raid system. What he showed
back in twenty nineteen was making the quick decisions, making
the correct read, you know, in those beats after the snap,
getting the ball out, hitting a guy on the hands.
He doesn't have a great arm, but the quick decisions
and the short area accuracy is what he showed there
these past couple of years. I think it was probably

(20:59):
the off into scheme he was in that was pressing
his arm a little bit too much, and he started
taking some chances as well that turnover worthy plays in
the interests that the road turnovers both spiked on him.
Maybe maybe the Colts can work on him with that.
Potentially a developmental guy and he's going to be competing
in camp. I thought this was really interesting. They signed

(21:19):
a second quarterback, Jason Bean from the University of Kansas.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
Uh, those here.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
Listening to us can't can't see me. But I'm wearing
my Rock Chalk sweatshirt. You know, I'm always repping Repping
Rock Chalk. Obviously, I had a lot of exposure to
to Jason Bean as a as the world's foremost Jayhawk
football fan. But Jason Bean is is interesting in me
because former track star in high school and I'm talking
and he was in Texas. He was a track star

(21:47):
in high school and he has more arm talent than
you would think. He can push the ball down to
the third level no problem, he can evade people in
the pocket, and for long stretches of games he will
look like a guy that should have been drafted. The
problem with Jason Bean has always been this, and this
is why he started each of the last couple of
years as QB two to Jalen Daniels the starter there.

(22:08):
He glitches in the most baffling ways, reliably three to
four plays a game, and that's it. But you know,
every single game you go in, you're gonna get good
Jason for the rest of it, and you're going to
get bad mister Being for three to four plays. And
those are when he makes these just wildly half hazard decisions,
or he'll just like there won't be a teammate around,

(22:30):
he'll throw and you know, to the defender, or you know,
he'll do some crazy aggressive thing that it's like, bro,
you cannot do that. Last year, so Jalen Daniels had
gun down the starter for Kansas that brought Bean in,
and Bean was playing well. They were able to scheme
around or at least mitigate those glitches, like I said,

(22:51):
and he was playing well, but then Bean got hurt,
which Debro sent in a young freshman QB three into
the lineup backas a guy by the name of Cold Ballard,
who happens to be the son of Colts general manager
Chris Ballard, who just signed Jason Bean to the roster.

(23:12):
You want to talk about boots on the ground, de Bro,
don't get any more boots on the ground than that.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
Nope, you're right, man, You're right man. I mean, I
could just imagine Chris Ballard and his long flowing locks
just on the sideline watching all these plays of Kansas
just brushing his hair as the twenty mile anar wind
just goes through it. It's it's it's amazing when you
think about it.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
Man.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
The only guy moving on from that, the only guy
that kind of jumped out to me a little bit
for the Colts, was justin Strong and really it was
just a physical package. I mean, nine point nine six
raz dude is just a physical freak. Four point four
to six forty you go down the ticker tape. I mean,
he's just an athletic Marvel shoved in a five eleven

(23:56):
two oh six package. His analytical and tackle breaking number
were me at best thirty point nine percent breakaway rates,
seventy five point five elusive ratings. So that's really not
going to jump out to you.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
But if we're.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Gonna go say, okay, this guy is hyper athletic. A
lot of this maybe with system, maybe it was blocking
things like that, He's coming from a smaller school and stuff.
It's a name where people if you're inn and again
going into deeper dynasty formats formats fourteen sixteen teamer or
if you're just desperate in a rebuild, I could see
stashing him on a taxi squad. Uh. But moving on

(24:32):
to the twenty fourth ranked team four, I'm just gonna
lead this off, Dude. There is not a skill guy
that this team drafted that I care to even spend
a word on. What do you think about this team
and who is it?

Speaker 2 (24:43):
The Los Angeles Rams coming at twenty four and they're
I the way they do things with the Rams, with
the draft process, it's just different. And people know that,
you know they used to have the heck them picks?
Would that be a frick them pets? Maybe they just
a half? That's that's that sort of added phrase. Yeah.

(25:04):
I was like, don't get fired there don't get fired third. Uh,
but during during the draft process and and that you know,
during the heyday, and that that's changed. Now they got
their their first round picks back and now you get
to see a more fleshed out the way that they
sort of see this thing and what they do. They
they sort of zig where the NFL is ze gang where,
And I'm talking about the draft process and and this
UDF A class in particular, where they the guys they

(25:27):
don't care as much about the testing at the combine
or the prode is. What they care about is the
tape that that they're watching, but then also the GPS
metrics on that tape. So they care a lot more
about your play speed while you're on the field in
pads as opposed to how fast you ran the forty
in Indianapolis or how you know, uh some of your

(25:49):
broad jumped different stuff like that. And that's explicitly what
led them to Debro's boy pookin the coua. Uh. They
showed the video on the war room as they were
picking Pook Akua and one of the I think it
was Sneid who said, you know, you look at his
testing numbers and he's at the bottom of the list,
he goes, but if you just change it to his

(26:10):
on field speed, he goes right to the top of
the list, and and and then you know, run in
the room was like getting all excited, Yeah, pooh, we
love Puca Stape. And the rest was history with that.
But this UDFA class was part and parce. You look
at the RADS scores of the just the top guys
that they signed. So they got seven guys on my
top five hundred board. But here here are the percentiles

(26:30):
on those guys for their athleticism. Thirty seven, thirty fifth,
seventy ninth is the one exception, seventeenth, twenty fourth, tenth,
twenty eighth. These are the guys that the rest of
the NFL was like, yeah, that kid's not athletic enough
to play in the league. But here's the commonality amongst
those seven guys. They were all good college players. So
the Rams are like, Okay, we'll take them for free

(26:50):
and we'll bring them in and we'll see And they've
shown a lot of success in identifying these guys and
again going the other way. It's it's it's it's sort
of a money ball way of doing it because the
rest of the league is skewing these guys and so
you get them on the cheaper that the Josh Wallace,
the cornerback for Michigan was from last year's champs. Was
was my top rated guy on my pre draft board

(27:12):
three twenty one, and then the The only two skill
guys they signed were at the bottom of my one.
Drake Stoops three eighty nine, the son of former Oklahoma
coach Bob Stoops and the nephew of the other Stoops
that are coaching in football. Drake went to Oklahoma as well.
He caught a lot of balls there. He was the
guy who was ten percentile athleticism though at five nine.

(27:35):
The other one, Sam Wigloose that they saw another receiver
four to forty second on my list twenty eighth percentile athlete,
but he ripped up the Mac at Ohio, so he
like he was the dude, and he was one of
the best skill players that they had in the MAC
the past couple of years. So we'll find out if
they have enough athleticism to not be nullifying but parton

(27:55):
parcel for the Rams. Their strategy here with the udfas
I had not.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
Seen until we started prepping for this show a one
point zero raz But now say I've seen it all,
thor I've seen it. I've seen it all. Shout out
you see Oh yeah, shout out to them, man. But
what did you see out of the twenty third ranked
team here that you got on your list?

Speaker 2 (28:19):
The Tampa Bay Bucks come in next, the top rank guy,
they and they got two guys in my top three
hundred that The one who I think has got a
shot here is Kaitlin Deloch, Florida State linebacker. Super duper undersized.
Uh he's under six feet and he's two hundred and
ten pounds, and you you'd you'd like a kid like
that to be a stud athlete. And he's only sixty

(28:40):
fifth percentile athleticism. But he was an awesome player in
the ACC for a nasty Florida State defense last year
seven sacks and twenty pressures. But again, tiny off ball linebacker,
not an elite athlete. The way that he's going to
have to make this roster DeLoach is through special teams,
and he's got a shot to do it. He had

(29:00):
four hundred and eighty three special team snaps at Florida State.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
Yeah, there weren't any skill guys that I think, even
baron mentioning here. So moving on, man, considering the things
that this next franchise has done over the last few
years in the draft, I was kind of surprised they
were this slow. But again I'm bearing the lead here
Thor who made the twenty second spot on your UDFA rankings.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
The Detroit Lions check in there and a team that
I scored very highly their draft process. They weren't quite
as aggressive in UDFA this year. They did have a
couple names that are interesting. Steele Chambers, the linebacker from
Ohio State, had a shot to get drafted. He was
draftable on a lot of boards. On mine, he was

(29:44):
one of the last guys who had a draftable great
I had him two hundred and fifty fifth. We had
two hundred and fifty seven picks in the class this year.
But he's one of those guys who was like the
rock steady, rock solid linebacker for a blue blood who
it's like, we don't know if his skill set is
diverse enough any he has the athleticism to be able

(30:05):
to convert that game to the next level. But last
year on a very good Ohio State defense. Chambers led
that the Buckeyes with eighty three tackles, reliable tackler, very
good in run support. But again the athletic limitations to
length limitations, that's the problem here. And the only other
guy that was in my top three hundred, I'm gonna
let you talk about Debro because he's interesting Isja Williams,

(30:27):
that wide receiver from Illinois.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
Yeah, I thought he was very interesting.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
Man.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
The problem is for Isaiah is I think he's extremely interesting.
But he played seventy four percent of his career collegiate
snaps in the slot, So you're looking at a player
that's automatically going to be blocked by amanas Saint Brown.
But I gotta bring him up here, man, just for
the reasons you said, like he is very, very freaking interesting,
A thirty eighth in yards per route run. I look

(30:52):
at him as I just look at him, to be honestly,
like to package this for everybody, I think he's cheaper
Malakai Corley, Like, why did it team drab Malackai Corley
when you could have signed Isaiah Williams as a UDFA
And people say, really, that's what you think about him?
With a six point three ras. He got ding did
raz pretty hard for his size if you look at

(31:12):
the deeper parts of it and his straight line speed,
like he ran a four six three forty. But if
you look at everything else, it paints a much rosier
and complete picture about his athleticism. As an eighty eighth
percentile avert, eighty six percentile shuttle, and ninety second percentile
three cone for he was ninth amongst all wide receivers

(31:33):
in FBS last years in miss tackles forced. So like,
if you're a team like the Jets, why did you
drab Malakai Corley when you just could have signed Isaiah Williams.
He will never know, but I think the Detroit Detroit
Lions got a good signing there. Again, I think he's
blocked bi Amena. I say Brown, but a talented player.
I do think he sticks on the roster. Who do

(31:54):
you think sticks on the roster for this next team
that you have at twenty first?

Speaker 2 (31:58):
I got the Cincinnati Bengals coming in there, and I
think the best shot is Aaron Casey, the linebacker from Indiana.
The Bengals were actively going after attacking the linebacking position
once the draft ended on Saturday night. They so they
ended up losing a bidding war for this kid, Lavelle Bailey,
who went to Fresno State. He ended up going to

(32:20):
the Broncos. Had mentioned that the only coach that talked
to him on the telephone after the draft was Sean Payton.
That ended up being the tiebreaker. So Cincinnati sort of
audibled off that plan, ends up getting both Casey and
then a linebacker from Wisconsin. I don't know how to
pronounce his last name, Mema is his first name. But

(32:40):
they each got fifteen thousand dollars signing bonuses and a
little bit more guaranteed in the first year salary. I
think one of those two guys, I think they're sort
of tipping their hand about that that, you know, one
of those two guys, who ever plays better, has a
real shot to make the roster. But you know, outside
of that, not as many interesting guys. The only other
name worth mentioning in Dee Brol. I'll coick it to

(33:01):
you talk about this guy a little bit more was
a small school potential sleeper Cortland state wide receiver Cole
Burgess who has a fascinating athletic testing profile.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
Dude, I was not expected to see that type of
athlete going undrafted. I mean Cole Burgess, for everybody just
now hearing his name, eighty seven catches, one hundred like,
thirteen hundred and seventy five receiving yards, sixteen tudies at
Cortland State. I get the small school, but nine point
eight raz for four point four to five forty ninety

(33:35):
eight percentile avert, ninety nine percentile broad jump like and
Cincinnati has made that kind of their thing over the
last few years. I mean, the former freaklister Andre Yoshavas
is on this roster. They drafted Jermaine Burton in the
third round. They have coveted high end athletes on this
depth chart. So you look at the other guys on

(33:56):
this receiving depth chart. I get Cole Burgess would have
a lot of climbing to do, but it's not exactly
a tall mountain thor to climb over Kendrick pryor Sdrick Jackson,
Shrinton Irwin like all of these guys like those are
not guys that you need to be worried that much about.
If Cole Burgess can show out in camp, and maybe

(34:18):
this is a guy that where I'm out in the
streets in preseason dfs this upcoming season, and I'm like, hey,
look at this guy. They could be a name that
people need to earmark, one for taxi squads and dynasty,
but two a name that we could be hearing continually
in training camp. What are your thoughts on Burgess.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
It's just that it's an interesting dart throw in terms
of the athleticism. That's the kind of guy that you
want to take the shot on.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
In sir, A big, big agree. Moving on to the
next team here a small class or for the Aarzona
Cardinals at twenty two signings man, either one of these
guys jump out to you.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
Two signings on my top five hundred board. They've got
a couple other guys, but they were lower, and they
explicitly came out after it maybe felt like they had
to give an explanation for it. Their assistant general manager,
Dave Sears, ended up explaining to the media that they
had more guys on their roster than in typical years,
so they were closer to that ninety man limit, So

(35:14):
they explicitly didn't were not as aggressive in UDFA. The
reason that they ended up getting higher despite having only
two guys on that they signed on my pre draft
five hundred was that one of them I thought was
draftable and the other one just fell outside of that range.
So the quality was there. Of the top guys, Miles Murphy,
the defensive lineman from UNC, is the guy that I

(35:36):
had a draftable great on. He's it's an interesting profile
with him. He has good size, he had three years
starting experience in the ACC, and he is showing the flashes.
In twenty twenty one, he had nine tackles for lost
and four sacks as a sophomore, But the past two
years that UNC defense devolved into the gutter and Murphy's

(35:57):
production went along with it. Last season only four point
five tackles for loss and one sack. But Arizona will
see that they obviously need bodies there on the front.
They'll see if they can end up turning him into
that and that three four predominantly three four front that
they run. People will recall they drafted Darius Robinson specifically
looking at that his fit in that defensive front. Miles

(36:19):
Murphy absolutely could fit there as a backup three to
four end, but he's going to have to prove it
in camp that that he can turn it around after
the last couple of disappointing years. The other guy that
they signed that was on my board, I'll let you
talk about him a little bit more debro, but interesting guy.
More for the Dynasty folks out there. Colorado receiver Xavier Weaver.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
Yeah, I think Weaver is interesting and definitely not at
the tip top of this class as far as UDFA signings.
Really good production at us USF, but then we saw
that kind of fall off whenever he transferred to Colorado.
But again bringing up the USF production again, going from
one scheme to the other, transferring schools and all that

(37:02):
type of movement. Sometimes, you know, I'm willing to give
a guy a little bit of a benefit of the doubt,
considering decent size, six foot tall, a little bit skinny,
but seven point nine raz three point zero and two
point nine yards per route run before he made the
transition to Colorado, So he's interesting. It would probably be
something where you're looking at again like deeper leagues fourteen

(37:23):
sixteen teamers for Dynasty's where you're getting probably that far
down the board to stash him on a taxi squad.
But again, a name that people need to know. Speaking
of more names to know, man who is at nineteenth
for your UDFA rankings. As far as their class.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
Nineteen is the Buffalo Bills, and going along with the
name theme, they signed the best name to team fit
in this entire class with their top rank signing, which
was Keton Bills from Utah. So Bills signed with the
Bills and we'll see if he can hang around. It'd
be fun to get that Bill's last name on the
Bills jersey if he can make the active roster offensive

(38:02):
guard projection to the next level six four three twenty
four fifty fifth percentile athlete.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
And that's guard is what he played at at Utah,
left guard in particular twenty six hundred a little over
twenty six hundred snaps at left guard at Utah, so
very experienced there, strong run blocker. He needs help in
pass protection. So that's that's what they're gonna have to
work on him initially, and then the the top skill guy.
I'll kick it back to U de Brough to talk
a little bit about Frank Gore at the bell sign

(38:30):
Frank Cord Junior, I should say.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
Frank FRANKO junr Junior Junior. This is not the old
man coming out of retirement, although if you look at
pictures of Frank Gore, he looks like it's still tote
the rock fifteen times a game. Looking at Frank Gore
junior man, I mean, look, I know the size is
a concern five eight one. I get the testing is
still a concern, a terrible forty times four point sixty

(38:52):
nine at that type of size. I'll still bring him
up here because if you look at the tackle breaking
metrics in comge, you look at the receiving utility, there's
still something there that I think necessitates being worthy of
a dynasty taxi squad, especially if you're a rebuilding team
or you need running back dep So not a name

(39:13):
that I'm immensely mentally high on, but again a name
that does need to get brought up here. Who are
the names that need to get brought up for the
number eighteen team coming.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
Into eighteen Las Vegas Raiders. The top guy that they
signed on my pre draft board was to Lu Griffin
from Mississippi State in terms of his off wide receiver,
in terms of his projection there potentially slot, but really
the reason that you sign him, it's to push yourr
with to get a job as a returner. In twenty
twenty two, to Lu Griffin led the FBS with thirty

(39:44):
two point three yards per kick return and when he
hits his top gear, that kid can fly. He's been
clocked as high as twenty two miles per hour on
the GPS. Only other name that I'll bring up is
the tackle they signed for in TCU, Andrew Kolker, And
merely because of how aggressive they were and going after him,
Andrew Cocher ended up getting two hundred thirty thousand dollars

(40:06):
guaranteed from Las Vegas, and Las Vegas is short on
offensive tackled up. So I think they're telling you that
they believe that Andrew Coker has a solid chance of
making that roster.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
Yeah. I think it's a really good call. Man. Who
do you think that this seventeen team, the Dallas Cowboys?
Who do they make good calls on? As far as
DFA signings?

Speaker 2 (40:25):
The one that I like the Cowboys Usually they're way
more aggressive in UDFA. This year they sort of sat
back on it. They only had one guy inside my
pre draft top three hundred seventy five prospects. That's Brevin
span Ford the tight end from my local school here
in Minnesota. I know that BREVN. Span Ford is going
to be a good blocking like he absolutely can handle

(40:45):
blocking in the NFL and could be one of the
better ones in terms of that because he's a mini
offensive tackle. He's six foot almost seven, two hundred and
sixty pounds and okay, at least North South athlete at
sixty eight percentile overall for ras the and but he's
a weird evaluation in that he was you have the

(41:06):
blocking stuff with him, and prior to last year, he
had shown the receiving chops, which was not a surprise
because he was when he was back in high school.
He comes out of Saint Cloud Tech, it's high school
here in Minnesota North he was a stud dual threat
guy receiver and edge rusher. And what they would do

(41:26):
with him as a receiver, he'd just be out there
on the boundary. They would just throw jump offs to him,
and he like it was unfair. That was the game.
It was just you know, toss up to that stuff
to brevnspan Ford and then he you know, he transitions
to tight end with the golphers and he the receiving
utility that he had given them. It was more and
more and more each year up through twenty twenty two.
Last year it utterly disappeared, and that's what we have

(41:49):
to figure out what went on there. He was zero
percentile in PFF receiving grade last year, dropping nine balls,
only cut twenty five for an incredible twenty six point
drop eight, and he only had two catches that came
ten or more yards down field. So that's that's the
not great Bob. But the year before that, like I said,

(42:10):
he was showing that receiving utility with the blocking stuff.
And when he went back to school last year, coming
into this season, he was viewed as a top five
tight end in this class. The Cowboys are gonna have
to figure out in camp what happened to Brevin span
Ford's receiving utility. Can we get that back on track
or has it? Has it you know, uh, you know

(42:31):
gone away into the night like Chuck Knoblock's ability to
throw to first base. That's what we're gonna have to
find out with Brere. But he he is. He is
interesting because.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
That is a Minnesota that was a Minnesota pull. If
I've ever heard one wow man out of left field. Again,
we're going with the baseball analogies, man, but I'm with
you on span Ford again. The the athleticism is not amazing,
but I think he definitely checks the box of meeting
the threshold of if he can get back to that

(43:04):
utility because you talked about the receiving utility or twenty
twenty two. This is a tight end we're talking about
with sixteen yards per route run and seventh the PFF
receiving grade, like it doesn't jump off the film as like,
holy crap, look at this guy, but he could beat
his own coverage. I'm with you in that. I think
he's gonna be a good blocker in the NFL as
an inline guy that can beat linebackers, can win versus

(43:25):
his own coverage. I think that definitely. If you look
at this also, this this tight end depth chart behind
Jake Ferguson, you got a lot of like Luke Schoomaker, Okay, well,
could he beat him out possible? Peyton Hendershot, could he
beat him out for a roster spot? Again? Possible? So
I look at this depth chart right behind Jake Ferguson

(43:48):
as being wide open, where if you have talent, he
bounces back and he proves he can play, he could
stick on this roster and maybe as the tight end two.
So I'm totally with you, man. And if you're looking
to sign all these UDFA guys, you're going deep down
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the median right here at coming in at sixteen?

Speaker 2 (45:11):
That would be the Pittsburgh Steelers, who end up signing
three guys in my top three hundred pre draft board.
No one that I had a draftable great on, but
Beanie Bishop, the cornerback from West Virginia, was right outside
of that. I comped him to a Meek Robertson five,
nine hundred and eighty pounds, sixty third percentile athlete on him.
The other two were offensive skill guys. Dwan Edwards, a

(45:34):
guy de bro we saw down in Mobile at the
Senior ball. I'll let you talk a little bit more
about him, but I had m two hundred and sixty
first on my board. Not a surprise that he didn't
get drafted because the measurables, but the Steelers did well
I think to bring him in at least as at Cambody.
And then the one that I was more interested in
was John Rice Plumbley, the quarterback from UCF who was
also a UCF center fielder and at times on the

(45:56):
same day where he would play the one sport, and
then they'd take him in the to the other side
of the facility and he says, you know, put his now,
he's putting his football, he's taking a baseball jersey. Ob
he's putting his football pads on. And then you know,
playing the other one. He he's he's like a renaissance man.
This kid. Earlier in his career, he started a quarterback
in Rich Rodriguez's system, by the way, giving the hook

(46:18):
to Matt Corrall, because you know the Rich rodrigaz system
obviously Pat White, the old West Virginia, the spread option stuff.
John Rice's Plumbley, a fabulous athlete, was a really good
fit for that six foot two, pot three eighty eight
percentile athlete. Then the next coaching staff came in, they
put corral back in that so John Rice Plumbley played
slot receiver for a bit that the next season. Then

(46:39):
he transfers to UCF where the you know, he took
over as the starting quarterback for Gus Mel's on there
past couple of years. And then of course the the
baseball stuff. He's not only a good athlete, he's got
some snap in that arm, more so than you would
think from his frame and like the baseball stuff that
that's where you know, you can see that when he's
chucking that ball from the warning track in center field.

(47:01):
He's got that. The question with him is if he
just focuses on the one sport, can the Steelers improve
the rest of it with him? Like the thing of
standing in the pocket and having to go through the
reads can be an issue for Rice Plummy. Sometimes you
see him locking onto that pre delineated read, missing some
open guys that are on the other side of the field,
and then the accuracy comes and goes. That thing. The

(47:24):
latter I think is something where it's more easily you
can at least improve upon that because it's his mechanics.
And sometimes you see the baseball thrower and John Rice
Plumbley where he's whipping that thing like he would whip
a baseball, and it's like John Rice, we just there's
a couple modulations we have to make here. But he
can absolutely get the ball down the field, as mister

(47:45):
Javon Baker would let you know. Javon had one of
the highest aid dots in the nation last year's Deeper
and I talked a lot about this spring and John
rice plummy is the guy that could get it down
to him. The pocket presence thing, the accuracy, fine tuning
those mechanics, the technique is what the Steers are gonna
have to work on there. But he has an interesting, versatile,

(48:05):
fleshed out skill set where he's interesting to bring into camp.
And maybe maybe maybe you harken back to a poor
man's slash kind of a thing with John rice Plumby,
because you have a lot of different utility, a lot
of different scaling, you try them at different positions. Maybe
if it doesn't work out at QB.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
Well, and we hear all this stuff coming out of
the Steelers camp and stuff talking about oh what do
we use and I don't think this happens, but do
we use justin fields as possibly with these new kick
return rules and stuff? And I'm like, you gotta put
justin fields out there for returns. You could just use
John riss Plumbley. Just keep him on the roster, baby,
he's definitely got the freaking athleticism throor four point five

(48:42):
to one freaking forty yard ash. You talked about his athleticism,
this guy in twenty nineteen as a freaking freshman at Ole,
miss ran for over one thousand yards, so I think
there is absolutely a possibility. And you look at how
the Steelers are stacking up this quarterback room with athletes
and running with Russell Wilson justin Fields. I'm sorry, the

(49:05):
person that completes that room, that fits that type of
mold is not Kyle Allen. It's John Rice Plumbley. So
I think that he should be considered the favorite, not
Kyle Allen, to win possibly the QB three job in Pittsburgh.
And if that's the case, yes he deserves and should
be on somebody's dynasty taxi squad man. But moving on

(49:26):
to this next team, dude, and this is always a
popular team to talk about because everybody loves offense. They
love this team at all parts of pieces. Who made
the fifteenth spot for DFA, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
The fifteen slot coming in there is the San Francisco
forty nine ers. Not the most inspiring class, but there
was a couple interesting names out here. The biggest one
for me by far is Cody Schrader there running back
from Missouri. He is a good fit for San Francisco.
His zone blocking scheme, that's what he ran at Missouri.
He has jobbed for that. He has good vision, very

(50:00):
good footwork. He runs with pace and tempo as those
those zone blocks start setting up, and he does a
really good job of denoting, like you know, it's like patients, patients,
pagers waiting for it, waiting for it, and then denoting
that time where Okay, now's my moment. The one cut
thing change changed the path of him, and now we're
getting urging through that hole. I really liked that about him.

(50:20):
I think probably the forty nine ers did as well.
He breaks arm tackle attempts and bounces away from off
angle attempts as well. Very tough kid, more on the
grinder aspect, you know, side of the polarity. Five eight
and a half two hundred and two pounds and only
a twenty third percentile athlete. That's obviously why he didn't
end up getting drafted. But he was a bellcow from

(50:41):
Missouri last year and a really good Missouri team that
went to a BCS ball and upset Ohio State, and
and Cody Schrader played really well in that game as well.
The one thing we didn't get to see as much
with him was the receiving utility at Missouri because their
their wide receiving core. People need to understand this about
it is the Missouri's wide receiving cor is nasty. Next

(51:02):
spring when we're talking Luther Burden, their wide receiver one,
he's gonna be a first round pick, so we're gonna
be talking about him a lot. But their second and
third receivers were also good, so they just didn't That's
where the usage was going when the ball was in
the air, so like that's where Traders sort of got
his blows. But he we talked to him down at
Mobile and he said he wanted to show his receiving

(51:22):
chops down there because he didn't get to show it
at Missouri. I was impressed with him. He ran good routes,
he was getting separation and catching the ball down the field.
I didn't I didn't see Cody Schrader flubbing balls down there.
So at least he showed you that He's gonna have
to show more of that in camp because he is
a terrible pass blocker. He does not bring the same
sort of lunch paale dog mentality that he does in

(51:43):
running that he you know, into the pass pro element
of his game. But he was the most interesting guy
in that class for me.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
T Bro, Yeah, I don't disagree with you, man. I
like Cody Schrader definitely showed me a lot more mobile
than I was expecting. And the other thing is five
to eight I get it, two outs. But he has
compactly built, Like if you look at his legs when
I noticed that it's some mobile, He's thick, dude. His
lower half is thick. He can run through arm tackles.
Just like you said. I wasn't surprised so much by

(52:12):
how he tested, but I think he is definitely going
to stick on the forty nine ers roster. Two different parts.
I think he maximizes every single carry and run that
he has given. His vision is really good. He follows
his blocks, he gets every blade of grass that he's
supposed to get with his with his touches. So I
think NFL coaches coaching stats are going to love him.

(52:33):
And as much as that type of work ethic to
ascend to what he did in college is definitely going
to carry over to the NFL as well as if
you talk about the composition of that roster, Elijah Mitchell
and Jordan Mason are both free agents after this season,
so it could be Cody Schrader. If it's not Isaac Grindo,
it could be Cody Schrader that's backing up CMC after

(52:55):
this season. The other guy that stuck out to me
and I wasn't expecting to find this guy when as we're,
you know, preparing for this show. But Tanner Mordecai, man, like,
holy crap, man, what an athlete. That's the first thing
I got to bring up here nine point two raz.
I mean, we're talking about just box after box after

(53:17):
box after box as far as athleticism. Just check check
check four point five forty. You look at his vert,
has broad his shuttle, his three cone, all of these
testing metrics are checking in as the eighty third percentile
or higher. I wasn't expecting to see that thor The
other thing about him is went from SMU, transferred to Wisconsin,

(53:40):
broke his hand in his final season, so we weren't
able to see the full season out of him. I
liked some of the things I saw in film from him.
I thought his accuracy ball placement was pretty good. He
has to work on getting through progressions. A lot of
plays where he's missing open receivers just doesn't even see
them in the progression. But the thing that needs to
get brought up with that athleticism is the rushing utility

(54:02):
had at least last year thirty six rushing yards or
higher and fifty percent of his starts. You're telling me
like this guy would be competing with Brandon Allen for
the QB three spot, and we're looking at a depth
chart for San Francisco like they're kind of tipping their
hand here, Like I know they went down the Trey
Lance well in previous years that didn't work out. But

(54:24):
the guys that they are putting on this roster behind
brock Party kind of fit a certain archetype for like
signing Tanner Mordecai, and you also have Josh Dobbs, who
is an athletic guy that can offer some things with
his legs. It's interesting, I'll say that, And so I'm
not projecting massive things. I hope he makes the team.

(54:45):
I think there's a path to that. What are your
thoughts on Tanner before we move on that.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
I agree with you. He is interesting. Earlier in his
career at SMU, he was he showed some stuff well
first of all, but he began at Oklahoma and then
he couldn't get on the field and then which no
shame in that if you look back at the quarterbacks
that Lincoln Riley had there. Then he goes to SMU
and he ripped it up at SMU and then he
used his COVID season to go what was on paper

(55:11):
on on the surface and inspired transfer portal decision to
go to Wisconsin, joined Luke Fickles's first team and play
in the Philongo offense. Inspired Philongo came comes came from
unc inspiring because the previous quarterbacks for Phil Longo, they
all got drafted into the NFL, including the last one
very high. That was Drake May. Prior to that, it

(55:32):
was Sam Howell. Prior to that, it was Matt Correll.
Now now we're really going full circle with his full thing.
But Phil Longo helped all those guys put up absolutely
bazooka numbers. So that's where Mordecai went, you know, hoping
that that was going to be his audition. Then I
get drafted and he struggled at Wisconsin last year. That
that whole offense was you know, and you have to

(55:52):
say they were some of the they brought in guys
in the portal like Morte kind a couple other guys,
but they were also I don't want to use the
word stuck, but there was a lot of guys that
had been recruited there for the power run scheme that,
as everyone out there knows, Wisconsin had run for years
and years and years and years and years, and then
all of a sudden you switched to Phil Longo spread

(56:13):
system out of the shotgun where it's just a totally
different thing with the single back, and some of the
pieces that were the carryover pieces just were not great
fits for that. I'm not trying to give Tanner Mordecai.
I'm not trying to excuse the play last year, but
there are some contextual things to suggest why it wasn't
quite as good last year. And you do have to
say he was a guy that Oklahoma targeted. They're only

(56:35):
going after the top quarterbacks coming out of high school.
And then when Mordecai got a shot at SMU, played really,
really good. But they're gonna have to flip back the
clock on him the passing game too when he was
at SMU, and then, like you said, potentially leverage some
value out of that athleticism.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
Yeah, I don't disagree, man, he is very very interesting.
Did you see anybody, because I'm just gonna I'll tell
you straight up this next team up here, I didn't
see anybody from a skill perspective that I thought was
super super interesting. I think there's one of two names
that I mean, you might be bringing up as far
as skill wise here. What did you see out of

(57:10):
the fourteenth rank Miami Dolphins UDFA class.

Speaker 2 (57:13):
Yeah, so the Dolphins, they didn't get any one in
my pre draft top two twenty five, and they only
got one higher than three hundred on my board, but
they had an interesting strategy where it was sort of
opposite of was it the Cardinals before where they only
had the two guys but they were both higher ranked.
The Dolphins went the opposite way and it was like
spray the board. They ended up getting ten guys on

(57:34):
my pre draft five hundred, all ranked between two thirty four.
Was the highest guy Grayson Murphy, the brother of Gabriel,
the aforementioned Gabriel down to four fifty six. So it
was and most of them, nine of them, the other
ones were three hundred or lower Grays and Murphy is
so just like we're going to talk about with Gabriel

(57:55):
later with regards to the Vikings, they were very good
edge rushers at Texas had gone there as twins. They
were great, but the pressure numbers, the sack numbers, et cetera.
Then they transferred up to u C. L A the
past couple of years and they got to do the
their take team routine with mister le So UCLA had
the nastiest pass rush the past couple of years. Some

(58:16):
of the other parts of their team, Chip Kelly, it
went wayward on him, but the offense so frustrated Chip
that he ended up leaving the school to go to
Ohio State. He's like, I want to I want to
coach talented offensive players again. But the defense was nasty
for for UCLA. So it was it was weird for
Chip Kelly team. But the Murphy twins were a predominant.
Part of that reason both of them didn't get drafted

(58:38):
is because even though they have the athleticism and the
pass rushing profile, both of them have crazy short arms,
like some of the shortest arms in the entire class
of anyone that at that position that tested even at
a pro day. So that's why he fell down. As
far as the other guys. The one sort of overall
thing that I noticed about this Miami class. They you

(59:01):
know again, they weren't they weren't shelling out for the
top undrafted guys, but they were taking sort of calculated risks.
Either on Murphy, it was the short arm, so we'll
bring in you know, you had it on the field.
But then a series of other guys, it was on
athletic traits. Mark Perry. This eight different TCU Storm Duck,
the all name Storm Duck at cornerback come from Louisville

(59:23):
this past time he had transferred up from the G
five and then wide receiver Ja Kwon Burton are all
stud athletes Ja Kwon Burton that the last one more
interesting for fantasy guys. Potentially two time Feldman freaklister. The
consistency wasn't there for him at FAU, But then again,
the FA's passing game stunk the past couple of years,
so you at least have to give him that. Ja
Kwon Burton potentially a slot option and a special teams guy.

(59:46):
Storm Duck is the guy that we all need to
hope and pray that he improves his instincts and technique
because the athleticism is all there and he has flash
plays as well, it's just there's some He's like the
Jason Bean of cornerbacks, where there's a couple of plays
per game. He just gets torched and it's like, bro,
what were you, like, why were you looking into the
backfield on that play? It clearly wasn't a running play,

(01:00:07):
or he gets crossed up by by like very straightforward moves.
Got to work on Storm Duck with that. But we
have to hope he gets there because he's obviously going
to be an all Name team guy if he does.
The only other guy that all shout out is Gavin
Hardison from UTEP, the quarterback, just for this reason. He's
got a gun that he has. Gavin Hardison legitimately has

(01:00:27):
one of the best arms in this class, just pure arms.
But he reads the field like it's covered in Sanskrit.
But he makes the most baffling decisions that you'll ever see.
And last year there was some you know, there was
hope for him because, like I said, he can whip
that ball, has a legitimately enormous arm and very pretty

(01:00:49):
spiral and when you're just you know watching him, you
just you know a little bit from the tree tops.
He's like, man, this kid could be some, but last
year he was struggling so bad with the decision making
of throwing the ball to the opponents that utep a
team that it had a coaching staff that was desperately
trying to cling onto their jobs. It ended up failing.
And I don't want to say it was Gavin Hardison's faunt,
but Gavin Hardison's play did not help, which the coaching

(01:01:12):
staff explicitly told you by benching him last year. So
NFL type arm all day, but the coaching staff of
the Dolphins are going to have to work on the
rest of it with mister Gavin Hardison.

Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
Your comp for him, brock Berlin is a name that
I have not heard in a very, very.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
Very long time. Shout out to the state of Florida.
We've had some symmetry that ever, that one that took
me back.

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
I read that comp and I was like, oh, okay,
I'm in the wayback machine right now, man. But getting
back to the present day, man who makes thirteenth on
the list.

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
The Tennessee Titans do and one guy. Now we're going
to start, you know, as we go forward here, Now
we're going to get to some more interesting both prospects
in general that I think I have a really good
shot tank, but also in particular for our audience, the
Dynasty Dash fantasy guys. The Titans crop had one. Dylan Johnson,
the running back from Washington via Mississippi State, was the

(01:02:06):
two hundred and second r prospect on my pre draft board.
The one guy that the Titans guy who had a
draftable great although they had one other that was just
outside that, Khalat Duke, the edge rusher from Kansas State.
Dylan Johnson interested me and deebro We had talked about him.
I believe on the Sleeper episode that we did.

Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
Yeah, you brought him on that one.

Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
So the one thing he does categorically does not have
is foot speed. He had a four six eight forty
to confirm that during the pre draft process. He also
had a poor broad jump. However, so Dylan Johnson gets
recruited out of high school by Mike Leach into that
air raid system and caught a metric ton of balls
in his first three seasons at Mississippi State, one hundred
and forty nine of them to be exact, over those

(01:02:47):
first three seasons. Very valued receiver there. That stuff was
all good and also whether this was something he brought
to college or whether this is something that he just
worked on and improved that as a matter of pragmatism
because of the system he was in. Dylan Johnson a
very good pass blocker as well, and that needs to
be noted because this class did not have a lot

(01:03:08):
of them at that position, but he was one of them.
Then for his final season, Dylan Johnson transfers from Missippi
State to Washington and his usage flips where it goes
from being the predominant throwing the ball throwing the ball
but not as many carries to where last year on
that Washington team that ends up making the national title game,
Dylan Johnson had two hundred and thirty three rushing attempts
for nearly twelve hundred yards and sixteen touchdowns. The kid

(01:03:32):
is tough as nails. He was injured from November on
last year at least, and played through all these different injuries.
The Texas game, people will recall he had to get
carried off the field and it almost turned into it
like his body just sort of gave out on him
because he had been playing through all these injuries and
it almost turned into this weird thing where then the
clock stopped, which which almost gave Texas a shot to

(01:03:52):
come back at the very end. But he couldn't really
blame Dylan Johnson for that because he had been played,
like I said, playing hurt for it seemed the entire
time I thought for sure he was going to be
out for the National Title game. No, Dylan Johnson was
back for that. Toughest nails. Toughest nails can handle the usage.
He's going to be a value added to the passing game.
The only thing for Dylan Johnson in camp is to
prove that his lack of foot speed, lack of explosion,

(01:04:13):
that that is not nullifying to an NFL future, that
he will be able to provide enough a value add
in the passing game, maybe some short yarded stuff like
he did at Washington, like I said last year for
the runner up sixteen touchdowns to carry on the roster.
But this is an interesting player, especially because after the
top two guys that the Titans have in that room,
they don't have a lot. So there is an RB

(01:04:35):
three job that will be up for grabs in camp,
and Dylan Johnson is going to be near the top
of the line in that Derby.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
Yeah, I fully agree with everything you said about Dylan
Johnson there, buddy. The only thing I'll add is one
point two to two or higher yards per route run
in two of the last three seasons. They if he
wins that RB three job, he needs to be on
Dynasty rosters. Just I mean, absolutely needs to be on
Dynasty rosters. All right, baby, we're cracking into the top
twelve teams. Thor who gets.

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
To go first? The Baltimore Ravens come in at twelfth.
They had six guys in my pre draft five hundred.
One of them they're top signing is the reason that
they ended up getting this high because the other five
were outside my top three hundred. But they got juiced
in my metrics because they signed bow Braid, another shop,
local discount here lockdown the Borders to sign bow Braid,

(01:05:23):
a kid who grew up in the state of Maryland,
went to play for the Maryland Terps in college, and
now the Ravens are are bringing him home, you know,
keeping him home. I guess I should say he bo Braid.
I was surprised he didn't get drafted because his game,
it's the prototypical backup safety in the NFL in that
he gives you run support and he doesn't embarrass himself

(01:05:46):
in coverage, so long as you keep them away from
the one on one stuff where he has f is
back to the quarterback. He gonna get singed if you
do that. But if it's just the full field in
front of him, the free safety thing, surveying the whole thing,
and then coming down hill making the decision, then that's
the stuff that he is good at. He's reliable at it.
Like I said, he will come up and help and
run support. He also gives you a special teams utility,

(01:06:09):
So I think that kid hangs around as a backup safety,
special teamer. I don't know that he gives you anymore
that the athletic limitations. He's six foot two three fifty
third percentile athlete. But he showed enough at Maryland to
project as a guy who's gonna hang on to the
back of an NFL roster, and I think he's gonna
do it by saying and then say to Maryland, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
I don't disagree.

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
The only guy I'm gonna bring up here is Chris Collier.
And if people don't know the name, well you need
to go look at some lock Haven tape. Yes, I
said lock Haven. Look at this guy though, for five ten,
two oh three, nine point seven one raz four point
five forty. He's got the size, he's got the athleticism.

(01:06:52):
I mean checking box after box eighty second percentile or
higher in almost every athletic testing metric after Derrick Henry
on this roster thwarts, you got what Justice Hill Well,
Baltimore knows what they got in him. Keaton Mitchell's coming
off the acl Rashi and Ali. I'm sorry, I'm just
not worried about him and Collier. Look, is there something

(01:07:13):
to be said about the jump massive jumping competition. Absolutely,
but also a player at lock Haven last year over
almost fourteen hundred rushing yards fifteen total touchdowns. Dude, like
he's got the utility, he's got the testing. He's a
guy that's interesting man. I mean, look, I couldn't even
watch a ton of film. I had to go like
literally to YouTube and watch try to watch find something

(01:07:35):
on this guy so I can get a sense of
his game. Ran through arm, tackle, surprising burst. I mean,
the testing shows up on his film. So you're talking
about deep dynasty guys that people have never heard of.
And while we're doing this freaking show, man, Collier's a
guy that I'm earmarking. I will be adding a bunch
in my leagues just looking at that depth chart.

Speaker 2 (01:07:55):
Monster, deep bro, your cop.

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
Was interesting too. You had Antoni Pitman. I was like, oh,
very very interesting man. But now we've broken into the
top twelve. What's the next team in the docket?

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
Next coming up is the Chicago Bears, who did something
very similar to what they did in last year's UDFA
process when they signed my top undrafted quarterback Tyson Bagent
Hung on the roster. We got to see him a
bet he started in four games. This year, they did
the exact same thing. They signed Austin Reid from Western Kentucky,
my top undrafted quarterback. I had him just at the
very end of my draftabole grades. In fact, the Bears

(01:08:28):
ended up getting three guys who I just inside that
ranked two hundred and forty third to fifty fourth on
my pre draft board. And like I mentioned, two hundred
fifty seven picks in the draft, So all those guys
come in right there. But Austin Reid threw, so he
started out at West Florida. You shout it out John
Giles before the wide receiver there. West Florida is a
D two school and for people that don't know out there,

(01:08:50):
they throw the ball a whole heck of a lot.
So that's where Austin Reid like began and and won
a national champion D two National championship in twenty nineteen.
Earlier in his career West Florida. That opened up the
opportunity with the FBS programs after the COVID season, so
he got a shot with Western Kentucky and he goes
there and throw last two seasons seventy one to twenty

(01:09:12):
two TDI and T rate for Austin Reid. Now, it's
a gimmicky offense, the air raid offense that Helton runs
there where the ball gets out really quick. I made
this conflation several times during the draft process. But Bonix
and Austin Reid were the two guys in the categories,
way at the top above everyone in terms of the

(01:09:34):
release time, the average release time. They both were by
far the quickest in this class because both systems, it's like,
here's your read beforehand. No pun intended with the guy
we're talking about now, but here it is beforehand. Get
that ball out quick and then the other thing that
lowest A dots in the class. So those two guys
were hand holding on both those different things. There was
opportunities with Reid when it wasn't that the screen right

(01:09:54):
away where he'd stand back in the pocket. He did
show me the ability to go to the other side
of the field on the reads when he had to,
and he does have accuracy in the short area. The
thing that he categorically lacks is an NFL arm to
go downtown? Can he he could pay per cut you
shorten and intermediate if you give him that system where

(01:10:15):
where some of this stuff is on the play, you
give it to him. Or it's the quick hitting concepts,
the timing concepts, some of the anticipatory stuff he can
do as well. But when you ask that kid to
throw the ball forty yards or more down the field,
that's where you're asking for trouble. Didn't really do it
in college a whole lot, so that that sort of
caps the ceiling there. But he's gonna be fighting Brett

(01:10:35):
Rippian for QB three duties. I assume Bagin is locked
into to QB two, but the Bears could have the
youngest quarterback room in the NFL. If Austin Reid ends up,
they might anyway, but if he ends up beating a Rippyan,
because then you'd have the two rookies, obviously the number
one pick on top there and then beagent from last year.
The other guy I wanted to shout out was James
Kromer from James Madison via Rutgers. He at Rutgers, he

(01:10:59):
didn't do it, but he's an edge rusher with some
interesting measurables six foot three and a half, two seventy four,
ninety six percentile athleticism, so he can he can get
on top of you. The thing last year at James
Madison was the he broke out there and that's what
gave him this shot and was enough for me to
put him. Like I said at the very end of
my draft able grades, the Bears are going to have
to decide with that kid. Do we try to bulk

(01:11:21):
him up because the frame suggests it could happen to
play inside situationally, or do we want to try to
maybe even get him to lose a little bit of
weight for the edge thing. Because the thing that that
concerned me about that it was the lateral agility and
the bend on him out on the edge. But you
have an interesting, you know, size at lettuces package with him.

(01:11:44):
So definitely the sort of guy that you want to
bring in UDFA for the Bears. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:11:49):
I don't disagree. Man. The only reason then put Austin
Reid on my list is just the lack of arm strength.
I think it's gonna hinder him a ton, and really,
what kind of ceiling does he have? All Right, So
we have gone through twenty two NFL teams so far.
For look, I know we got still the top ten
to get to. But hold on, everybody, get your popcorn ready.

(01:12:10):
We're gonna be back. Thor and I are gonna coming back.
The next episode of the Fantasy Pros NFL Draft show,
we're gonna roll through all of these top ten teams,
talk about Thor's ranks, some skill guys that we were
gonna dive into that you need to be putting on
your Dynasty Taxi squads. Until then, we're out of here.

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