Fantasy Football Takeaways: Fact or Fiction + Week 11 Waiver Wire & Trade Advice | Out of Bounds (Ep. 1834) - FantasyPros - Fantasy Football Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in everybody to Fantasy Pros. This is out of
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we get into the news of the day, everything that

(00:44):
happened in week ten. Looking ahead to week eleven, we
got some breaking news. We're gonna talk about a head
coaching change, a possible return of a superstar, but our
own Mike Mayor just got an addition to his family.
I don't know if you saw the slack chats going
around Welsh and Bogs, but shout out to our good friend,
my Mayor, who we worked with for many, many years.
So another kid, Welch, you've got to, I've got to.

(01:05):
He's got three now. I think that's just a terrible decision.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
I don't know what he's worst decision he's made. He's
a great ranker, but not a great decision maker. I
would like to go out I am technically the better
friend because in the slack chat I congratulated him before you.
So it's you just found out about the news.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
So but I fanded him personally on my phone. It's
a slack so everyone doing.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
But I'm gonna call you.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
Know what right now.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
That's when I found out the worst friend worst.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
This is why we're here. We're the worst friends anybody
could possibly ask for. All right again, if you're here
with us on our twitch, make sure you're dropping your questions,
your fact and fictions. We're gonna get to those. We
want to take all your questions with the asses. Where
the asses? You asked the questions. We're gonna do all that,
so please drop your questions about fantasy, about pickups, about trades,
about impact to some more injuries that are happening to

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what you saw last week, which we want to see
this week. But fact and fiction two a big one
we were going to do with you guys later here
in the show. So let's start here with Brian Dable
because that is the story. Brian Dable out as head
coach of the New York Giants, not surprising. Last week,
a story broke in local media New York area where
I live that apparently he almost got fired on the

(02:19):
plane ride back from Denver a couple weeks ago that
ownership was done, and I guess Dad said no, no, no,
let's let's not be hasty. Here was it.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Government shutdown kept his job because nobody could actually fire him.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
The government shutdown kept me in Florida at the Orlando
airport for eight and a half hours on Saturday.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Probably kept him his job for eight more hours. They're like, listen,
he's got to get off the plane before we do this.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
Maybe maybe, but here's a fascinating stat And I saw
this too against the Cowboys, Broncos and Bears. The Giants
had a ninety two, nine and ninety six percent chance
of winning in the fourth quarter. They lost all three
of those games. The chances of that happening won in
sixty thousand. So Welsh, why don't you kick the off here?
Obviously kind of a weird mix, right because Jackson Dart,

(03:03):
I think you found your franchise quarterback. But now, of course,
here we are in that cycle where a new coach
is gonna come in. What does that look like? And
you know who is going to take over possibly next
year for the New York Giants, and what that's going
to look like When you have these pieces in place,
do you think it's an immediate success potentially here for
somebody to turn this franchise around.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Immediate success? I think they've got like, really good pieces.
The problem is they're all broken. They're all just scattered
around or they're gonna have to try to pick him up.
I mean, the first thing is it's like I just
did not have my bingo car that Mike McDaniel would
have his job still when Dabele didn't. But they also
were able to pull off a really good surprise second off.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
Though.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
I just don't like I wonder if this had to
come from something bigger, because I feel like one of
the worst things that keeps happening in the NFL for
years and years and years is like you get this
like great talented young quarterback, they come in, and then
what happens. They stink because they're young, and the offense
and they're building, and then they fire everybody. And like
Alex Smith went like three or four coordinators in.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
His first four years.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
You hate to see that with young guys. But the
hope would be here, instead of just being like, oh,
we got it. You know, he's not winning games or
whatever your sixty thousand thing is that he was actually
a hindrance to the actual development, Like and that could
be a case, hey you got a concussion, get back
in there. You know, Like whatever he was doing, I
just hope this move was developmental based and not just like, well,

(04:25):
we have to win games because we're the Giants. Because
this whole burning and churning different coordinators, I think it's
really bad for the development of quarterbacks in general. But
he's such a raw piece here. Dude just runs and
runs and runs, and you know, they got to get
him making better decisions. So hopefully they bring in somebody good.
I don't think I'm surprised by this whatsoever, But I
don't know. It puts a little bit of a of

(04:46):
a highlight on Jackson Dart for me long term, because
I hate seeing young quarterbacks just burn insurant through coaches
and coordinators.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
Yeah, Bogs, I think it's I think it's a job
people would want, for sure. It's New York. You do,
theoretically have a young quarterback. You have a young superstar
wide receiver. You have Cam Scattaboo. You got some talent.
I do Carter like. There's a lot of talent on
this roster. It's a big franchise. I wonder too, if
you know the this is what the third time now
evaluated for concussion for Jackson Dart. This is a certain
point where the coaching takes over and says like, hey, kid, look,

(05:14):
this isn't collegen more. These guys are big. They're gonna
knock you out. You need to learn to slide. You
need to preserve yourself for the good of a team.
I think that's where coaching Cam comes in. I think
there's there's maybe the GMS or the people above going hey,
if we don't do something here and change the tone
of this, we're gonna wreck the future. We do have
to me When Jackson Dark came out of that game
for another concussion, again, is it his fault? No? But

(05:35):
is he somehow culpable for not practicing a little bit
more that pish? Look, Jackson, you got to make sure
that you protect yourself a little bit more. We need you.
You're too important to this team. You've got to change
the style of play. And that is coaching.

Speaker 4 (05:49):
Yeah, I mean, I think this was This has probably
just as much to do with those terrible losses, gripping
loss out of the jaws of defeat. Right, It probably
has just as much with Daniel Jones having wild success
with the Cults.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
Right.

Speaker 4 (06:03):
You have a quarterback that you bring in supposed to
be your franchise guy, you draft him higher than people expect,
doesn't work out at all, He's a joke, blah blah.
And then he goes to Indy and is now an
MVP candidate. Right, Like he he keeps winning over there.
Saquon went and became an MVP candidate immediately somewhere else. Right,

(06:24):
So it's those things combined with the fact that they
aren't changed. Nothing has changed in New York. The results
have not changed. It may be more fun, right Jackson
darts more fun. Malik Neighbors is a developing star. You
probably have your running back if he's healthy next year
in cam Scataboo. So you have pieces to this. You

(06:44):
have a good defensive line. The pieces are better than
how they played though, So I think dabol is the
problem here. I think this was an appropriate firing, and
I think that it It was either gonna happen now
or at the end of the year, So why not
just rip that band aid off and see what you
got for the rest of the year. And I think
you were about to lose the locker room pretty quick.

(07:06):
I think that's the real issue, is.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Right, Yeah? Wins it at this point too, like why
do we see Russell Wilson? I don't understand. And thanks
for welcoming me back everybody too, it was nice to have.
I always say good bye week once in the season here,
so I appreciate all the positive tones here. I know
Stink had a question, how was the butterbeer this time?
You're excellent? I had myself a frozen butter beer and
a regular standard one. On the trip. It was very good.

(07:31):
I got to spend some time saw the epic universe.
So I'll play a little Mario Kart fun ride. Very
good time. I gotta say that's that's a good time there.
So but we're back in action here. A lot of
people asking questions too about Bucky irving and obviously having
some feelings wtf should we due with Bucky Box? Why
don't you take this one? Obviously people were hoping he'd
be back after the bye that did not happen. We

(07:52):
kind of warned about that that that might be the case.
So at this point, is like Sean Tucker, a streamable
guy for you potentially the week you want to pick
up just in case.

Speaker 4 (08:02):
Yeah, I mean, well you're not. You're not dropping Bucky
right like I keep him the end of the season.
That's Bucky is a Titanic pick, which means you go
down with the ship here, right, You're not cutting him.
He's one of your first two picks.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
So h you.

Speaker 4 (08:16):
All we can do is wait and see when he
comes back. I mean, I know that's not what you
want to hear, but I don't I don't know. I
don't know that it's going to be soon anyway. I've
seen the Fantasy docs in Deepak talk about this, right, like,
this shoulder injury seems to be worse than what they
let on. And obviously he's missed more time than we thought.

(08:38):
But does that mean he's going to be back soon?
I still I have no idea. They're playing pretty coy. Yeah,
please jump in.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
Well, well, I mean they're not necessarily being coy, they're
just being nothing. The reason this is probably coming up
in the chat is because within the last hour Todd
Bowles said Bucky remains without a timeline to return, right,
So I think that's why this is coming up. So
it's not like there's no they're just being like, we
don't know. So, yeah, that does leave into questions. Somebody,
I think there's a factor fiction, so I'll kind of
ruin it, but we don't want to go back to Bucky. Later,

(09:06):
someone was like, factor fiction, Bucky doesn't play this year.
I had been kind of in the space that he would.
The guys, we're in week eleven and Todd Bowles is
saying there's no timetable whatsoever. I'm starting to feel that
you're not going to get him for the Fantasy regular season,
and I don't know about the house at this point.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
Who plays more games rest of season, Bucky Irving or
Chris Godwin Welsh?

Speaker 2 (09:28):
What else going on with Chris Godwin's.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
Well? But we were told that they he would be back.
You know, they they're gonna you know, four weeks to
start the year and then hopefully work him back in
the weeks five and six. It's week eleven, okay, and
we still don't have any clear path for him, and
I think Godwin.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
I think it's Godwin at this point. They literally say,
but they don't know what's going on with probably know
where he is.

Speaker 4 (09:52):
Does Chris Godwin have a leg? I mean, can he physically.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
Stand up right now like he's got one?

Speaker 4 (09:57):
I just, uh, I don't know that either of them
play unless they get to the playoffs. I think this
might be out for both of them. So I mean, listen,
you hold on to Bucky because if Bucky plays and
gets his full run, he's a game changer. I just
don't know even if Chris Godwin comes back, if we
care at this point, right, what is he?

Speaker 3 (10:17):
Yeah? So why was ever three wide receiver four? Whatever?

Speaker 4 (10:19):
So yeah, I mean I'll hold out hope for Bucky,
but I don't have much hope for Chris Godwin for
the end of the year.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
Now. I thought I would be the Joe returning that
everybody was excited about, but really it's not because Joe
Burrow apparently is going to start to practice again. Wrong Joe, Yes,
Joey P's back, but Joey B is really obviously the
one that everybody really wants to talk about. So let's
talk about that, because that was a bit of news
here that I think none of us were really anticipating getting.

(10:47):
It came over you this afternoon. We're recording this on Mondays,
is like our Monday morning quarterback kind of show here
Monday afternoon, depending on the time zone you're in. And
you know, we were thinking, okay, maybe Christmas time, you know,
mid December, that's what we were hearing. And all of
a sudden, he's saying that he could be back potentially
on Thanksgiving night. That's his target. That's huge if that
is the case, and he is going to make it

(11:08):
back that quickly. Now again, I know Welsh just made
a face there, thinking I'll believe it when I see it.
But this is Joe Burrow and he is a crazy guy,
and it's certainly you know, a healthy Joe Burrow goes
a long way. The question is is that that Joe
Burrow we're getting potentially? So, well, let's talk about this
because obviously Bengals on a buy this past week, you've
got a couple of weeks. In a way, I'm a

(11:28):
little heartsick for Joe Flacco because he doesn't get his
second chance around against the Ravens on Thanksgiving. I was
looking forward to that, but I'd rather have Joe Burrow back.
So you believe that this is possible. I mean, you
can even turn it into a factor fiction factor fiction.
Thanksgiving night, you're gonna be eating turkey watching Joe Burrow
play quarterback.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
Yeah, I mean, well you're kind of taught. You're doing
it like it's definitive. You're like, oh, it's sad he's
not going to get to play. It's like, well, maybe
he will. I don't believe this. I think they're going
to do kind of similar to what like the Niners
are doing. Well, maybe, but they're just like unless the
player's one hundred percent healthy, they're not going to even
screw with it. Like Brock pretty I think the same
thing with Joe Burrow, because why not. Flacco has looked
good that Ravens game. The tough thing is what is

(12:09):
that week thirteen and fourteen. They're both road games and
it's the Ravens and then the Bills. So it's not
like you can do a get Burrow back home, Da
da da. I think it's a matchup that Flacco will
still run in. Here's what I'll say. Unless Burrow is
one hundred percent full practice all week, I do not
think he's returning, And me personally, I think that's just

(12:30):
being Pollyanna and optimistic. I don't think he returns to November.
I think it's December where we can see him. But
I'm not gonna rule it out, of course, because what
the hell do I know? You know, he's the one
out there and he's the one that's going to be
getting going. But I think I just don't think it
behooves this team to press anything unless he is absolutely
one hundred percent set. Because if if Browning was a quarterback,

(12:51):
they might wheel him out this week. But it's not.
It's show Flacco. He's getting it done. So I think
it's going.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
To be tougher. What are your thoughts on the Joe
Burrow potential, wor Treo or in here box.

Speaker 4 (13:00):
I mean, I think it might depend on, you know,
whether the results the next couple of weeks, right, like,
if they if they win the next couple of weeks,
and all right, let him sit one more week. But
if they lose the next two weeks, and maybe we're
in desperation time. We're still trying if we have a
shot at a wildcard, maybe we're still trying to pull
for it. But I also, like, I don't think they're

(13:21):
going to be in that mix, so I don't think
there is any need to rush him.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
So I'm with Welsh.

Speaker 4 (13:26):
I think it's probably more likely that first game in
December than the Thanksgiving game. I think that's more likely.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
All right, here's another question for you guys. The Bills
are six and three and the Bears are six and three?
Which team is more of a fraud?

Speaker 4 (13:40):
That's like that, you know, John Daly smoking this cigarette
and his weird pants in front of Tiger Woods meme
both six and three?

Speaker 1 (13:48):
You know, I love that meme. Yeah, but you know what,
looking at it, I mean, the Bills defense is not good.
He Josh Allen, you know, did everything he could and
then some. And when Josh Allen is try hard Josh Allen,
Josh Allen ends up making some mistakes. He did, but
he has no help down the field. Like he's looking
for wide receivers down the field, he doesn't have any
help down there.

Speaker 4 (14:08):
If the Bills played the Bears in a neutral site
right now, yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
But you know what, it would probably be the same
as the Dolphins just kicked the snot out of the
Buffalo Bills. And I'm guessing asking that question right now
because I feel like the Bears aren't good either. But
the Bears keep finding ways to win football games and
I don't believe in them, and the Giants find ways
to lose. So, you know, looking at some of these
teams and some of the records right now, who is

(14:31):
the biggest paper tiger? Let's put it that way, of
all the teams that have winning records, I mean, those
are just two of them. I don't know if we
want to say the Bucks after yesterday too, is that
another team you think is a paper tiger type team?

Speaker 3 (14:41):
Steeling?

Speaker 1 (14:43):
Well, okay, well you said it, I didn't, so go ahead.

Speaker 4 (14:46):
I mean they it took five plus five and then
turnover margin to beat the Colts by one score. They
only put up ten points on the Chargers. Charger is
a good team, but I don't know. The offense looks
disgusting right now. I'm probably just being super negative, but
I also don't buy into the Bears really. I mean,
you know, yes, same record as the Bills, but if

(15:08):
we want to go in that direction, I just the Bills.
The Bills lost because Josh Allen turned the ball over
too many times. You know, I don't think he's going
to do that on a week to week basis. I
do not believe in the Bears at all right now.
So just for the long term, maybe they get to
the playoffs, but just like the Steelers, Okay, you get
in the playoffs, you can lose by thirty in the
first round. Great, you know that's not really a real

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contender to.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
Me, Welsh, I got one other question for you after
the incredible performance again by Jonathan Taylor, who is now
third in the MVP voting. He's still behind to Drake
May and Matthew Stafford right now, where they're all kind
of close and tied right now, is there a scenario
where we can get Jonathan Taylor as the MVP because
it really hasn't been a great year for the quarterback position.
I think we could all agree on that there's been injuries,

(15:52):
under performance. I don't think anybody thought Drake May was
going to be the guy at the top of the
MVP board in Week eleven, But that's where we're at.
And look, Matthew Stafford could very easily lose next week
to the Seattle Seahawks. I think that's a real possibility
and that would certainly put a huge dent in any
MVP hopes for him. So why can't we give it
to a running back this year who is literally carrying

(16:14):
this offense and this team on his back. Another tremendous
performance two hundred plus rushing yards, three touchdowns. Jonathan Taylor
is playing out his mind this year.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
Yeah, I mean, I mean, why can't we It's just
because his quarterbacks? Could it happen? Sure, I don't how
much you vote for him, I would probably, I gotta
be honest with you, I probably would go for Drake May.
I mean Drake now, okay, I think it's super close,
but I mean, you know, we're gonna talk about it later.
But the Patriots record is insane. I think if you

(16:43):
look at the talent around the Patriots and you look
at their record and what Drake May's doing, he is
literally holding up this team. I think you can maybe
make the argument on Jonathan Taylor as well, Jonathan Taylor's
video game numbers. I think I think it's Drake May
and Jonathan Taylor right now. So can JT do it?
Absolutely if he keeps on this run. I did this
a couple of weeks ago, that whole LT thing where

(17:04):
you're talking about the amount of touchdows. If Jonathan Taylor
pushes like twenty five touchdowns and goes over two thousand yards,
which he is well on his way to surpass, then
I think he has to be in this discussion. The
problem is is if Drake May continues his I throw
two touchdowns every single game, He's got like thirty five
forty touchdowns, the Patriots are like, you know, thirteen wins

(17:25):
going in and maybe a bye. I don't know how
people are not going to give it to Drake May
in his second year or so. I think it's those two.
I think they're right there.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
You know, it's an incredible thing to think, and I
know we're going to talk more about the Patriots of
the second here because I know it's on some of
our moments and takeaways. But it is stunning that you know,
to think like I thought that the Patriots will be
a ten win team. They've got eight ready, they have
got a good schedule, and they've been winning games on
the road, which is the main conversation. I want everybody
who's watching right now on the Twitch drop your MVP.
I know it's only ten weeks into the season, but

(17:55):
right now, who would you give it to if you
had a vote. I see a lot of mixed things.
I see some people saying Taylor, some say you want
to make a case for somebody else. I know this.
People want to make a case for Sam Donald, who's
played very well this year. And look that Seattle team
is pretty good, and you know.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
Well they all live in the Pacific Northwest. I don't
know Sam Darnold.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
Look he is I think fifth on the board right now. Boggs.
If you had to vote for MVP right now, not
Fantacy MVP, but.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
Would it be Sam Donald?

Speaker 4 (18:18):
I mean, look, I would give way more consideration than
Welsh would to Sam Donald. But it's Jonathan Taylor. It's
it's JT to me kind of by a stretch. Drake
may is right in there, but I mean, this dude
is setting up and he's making Daniel Jones look good
right now, Like, is Daniel Jones this good or is
this more of what you get when you play off?

Speaker 1 (18:36):
He's going to make Dan Jones more money than anybody
his agent.

Speaker 4 (18:40):
Yeah, we're seeing a stud running back in his peak
right now, right in his prime, in the middle of it.
And he's staying healthy, which has been the bugaboo for
him over his career. It's been the ankle injuries and
things like that. So if he can stay healthy the
whole year, I think I think he's going to win it. Specifically,
if the Colts win this division, I think he will

(19:02):
win it.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
Is there a chance Jonathan Taylor isn't the fantasy MVP
for just talking fantasy? Is there anyone that is a
better boon than what Jonathan Taylor is right?

Speaker 3 (19:13):
Maybe?

Speaker 2 (19:16):
I mean, yeah, I don't know, but Jonathan Taylor is
just three touchdowns every single week.

Speaker 4 (19:20):
I mean, it's not closed right now, but I think
if you if you're asking me, who else could get
in there?

Speaker 3 (19:26):
Because of the volume. It's CMC, that's it.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
Who do the Colts play this week?

Speaker 2 (19:30):
Could we see negative money minus money for two touchdowns
for Jonathan Taylor? I think we had plus one twenty
five a week ago. We legit might be if it's
like a Giants or like some just Dolphins garbage rushing defense,
we might legit see minus money for two wors for
Jonathan Taylor.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
I will tell you who they're winning this week. They're
playing nobody. They're on a buy this week, and they
come back against Kansas City. Now, I don't know may
money to score a touchdown this week. It's very possible
that you, Yeah, he's minus one.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
Fit. He just does like old school like ECW just
like shows up at games, grabs a ball, scores a touchdown,
just starts everybody.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
And just smashes a beer can.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
On his take into it. Drive somebody somewhere with.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
A kind stick. By the way, our self loathing producer Seth,
who is a Bears fan, for that's where the self
loathing comes from. The Bears six wins have come against
opponents with a combined record of fifteen and forty one.
Great stat there, Seth appreciate that so that's self Bears
fan knows that that is. It's the essence of it.
All right, keep dropping your fact in fictions. We got

(20:34):
a bunch of them loaded up. I want more of them.
I want you to drop them in there. So factor fictions.
We're going to go through that in a little bit,
but first I want to do the takeaways favorite moments
of the week again. You know, I hate this because
I felt like a Homer, but you know, because I am.
That's a huge win, another road victory for the Newland Patriots.
I mean, we have to talk about you said it
Box like he is playing great football the moment too.

(20:58):
You know, when they were pinned back down in their
own territory late in the fourth quarter, it was third
and long and I thought, for sure they're gonna play
it safe punt, and they didn't. He throws that deep
all to Matt Collins. That is a different New England
Patriots team that I'm used to seeing. Possibly ever, right,
maybe you gotta go back to like some heightened like
Brandy Moss era with with Tom Brady moments for that
kind of stuff to happen. Then you had Kyle Williams

(21:19):
making that a big explosive play. That's the most explosive
play they've had since twenty twenty one. If that tells
you the Patriots have been bad finding playmakers, I don't
know what does tell you that. If that doesn't, then
Trayvon Henderson and Bogman and I are texting dirty. He's
texted me, boy, it's nice when they give Trevon the football, right,
and yeah it is. And it feels like all of
a sudden they just uncovered this Ferrari that was you know,

(21:40):
it's like this coming of age movie. It's like, hey, son,
I know it's your you know, last night of high school.
I want you to go to a graduation party in
this And then you know, the dad pulls off. It's like,
oh dad, you're letting me drive the Porsche or whatever
it is. And there's Trayvon Henderson with fresh legs running
all over the place. Unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
So just wait, all the victory laps are coming. By
the way, I told you so about Trevion Henderson week ten.
That has happened.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
It's incredible.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
It's amazing. I'm glad, but victory.

Speaker 3 (22:03):
Yeah, but we did tell you how many times we
talk on preseason.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
But the preseason victory.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
Like, oh, that's fine, preseason victory or whatever. I told
you to draft Trevon Henderson in the second Look seven
eight nine. I know on the TV show we have
a segment on Sundays that I do about buying low.
I twice in two weeks I said Travon Henderson because
I just felt like we were at some point it
had to unleash. And now that we've seen it, here's
my question to you, Bob, do we if you have

(22:30):
a Romondre Stevenson on team, just cut him? Like do
you do? You do you got onto him just for insurance?

Speaker 4 (22:35):
No, No, you have to hold on to Remondre because
I don't you know, we all saw, We've all been
saying this, like just give the ball to Travion more
and you'll have success. And they did it and at worked.
It doesn't mean that vrabel is going to say, yeah,
right back to Trey Anderson.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
No, no, Remondre's up. Let's get Remondre out there.

Speaker 4 (22:54):
I we saw sparks of this before and then they
just decided to go back to Remondre. So absolute not
on dropping Remondra. Like I think that I think it
should be more Henderson now, but we all thought it
should be more monog guy and the Bears went right
back to DeAndre Swift right, So you know, yeah, I
just uh, I was disappointed. I just cannot do that
right now. So no, I think it should be that way.

(23:16):
But you know, wishing one hand and you know one
and the other and which one fills up first?

Speaker 2 (23:20):
So Joe, let me ask you, Joe, how many games
this year has Drake May thrown for under two hundred yards?
He's played ten games? I would say three under two
hundred yards? Yeah, three zero zero games year? How many
games of ten has he thrown for two or more touchdowns?
Of the ten.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
Seven, nine, eight, eight eight? Wow?

Speaker 2 (23:44):
And he has done eight of his last nine games
he has from at least two hundred yards more like
two fifty and had two or more touchdowns.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
He's ridiculous. He's ridiculous. And here's the thing too, And
I'm sure everybody who hates the Patriots gonna love this.
They're all in rookie con tracks Johnson, him, Trevion Right,
I mean, Kyle Williams like all these they're all rooie contractors.
I mean, these guys cap space for a while. They
got a you know, young, dynamic head coach. And look,
I understand why a lot of people hate the Patriots
for years. I get it's sick of them, tired of them.

(24:14):
This is a very likable team. Like they are, They're like,
they're like good in interviews, They're fun on the sidelines.
They seem like they really like each other. It's it's
a different vibe, like they're a fun vibe. And I
think that's very interesting to watch too, is that? Yeah?
And credit to them against huge road win. So we'll
see how the Tampa Bay Buccaneers bounce back. Tampa versus
Buffalo this week. Boys, that's gonna be one to see

(24:35):
because those are two teams that really need to get
on the board with a w here. They've both lost
a couple of games out of the last three games,
and they need to get some dubs. Welsh, what's your
big takeaway from the week that was? So?

Speaker 2 (24:46):
I had a crazy weekend of you week of my shows,
filling in for Joey and doing a baseball conference and
a live baseball conference. I did a live show this
weekend which will be up on MLB, and I was
around a lot of our friends and industry people, and
Thursday night was the same thing. A lot of people
ask about you two. Where's Where's Bogman? People wanted you there.

(25:07):
So I'm mingling and I'm having a great time, and
I'm occasionally kind of looking at the Thursday night football game.
And then I'm doing my stuff and I get in
my car and I'm heading home and I look and
I thought my phone wasn't refreshing, and then I realized
the scores were the same. And here's my and this
is a Bogman take. And I'm just because I don't
want to be like, this is my original take. Here,

(25:27):
I'm taking what Bogman has said, and I'm fully going
with it. Shoot the Thursday night football game into the sun.
Stop playing it. It's about I dude, first quarter to
third quarter, I'm like, this isn't refreshing, this is this
is the biggest pilot garbage game. I wish I would
have went back and just talked baseball. Why even play it?
Absolutely atrocious and gross. Can you imagine betting on that game?

Speaker 1 (25:50):
Some fun ones, I mean, the Eagles, Giants.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
Shop stop that, Joe, stop it.

Speaker 4 (25:57):
But we love talking football at any point when football
is on We love doing the Thursday Night show to
cover the Thursday Night Football show, but there is no
reason for Thursday Night Football to exist outside of just
being a money grab. It's gross, It really is gross.
The players do not get enough time to rest. The
quality of the product they put on the field is

(26:19):
garbage and I can't take it. Thursday night football is
fine if your team's coming off of bye week. If
your team is coming off of bye week, fine let
them play Thursday night football. But it should only exist
in the bye week windows so you can have fresh
legs and put a good product out nationally to your audience.
What they put out on Thursday between Denver and the

(26:42):
Raiders is a disgrace. It was a disgusting game and
it I agree one percent with the Welsh. This should
be shot into the sun. And I think he did
this just so I would get rolling here.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
Now that was my.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
Way. I can't listen to.

Speaker 3 (26:57):
Anyone defended that was the issue.

Speaker 4 (26:59):
Like I was quiet while you were doing your take,
but when Joe started to defend it, I can't hear it.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
I defend like I just I like standalone football. You
know that. And then some of the games.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
This year have been like do it on Saturday night.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
Like the Rams forty nine Ers upset was fun. The
Giants upsetting the Eagles.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
Was a wild I like to Monday night games.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
Two Mony night games. I don't. I like the moment
of Thursday night football again. Somewhere in Hogsmeat and Harry
Potter world.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
I was God.

Speaker 4 (27:28):
I wish you could have taken that game to the
Harry Potter universe and you know.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
So Bogs. What was a big takeaway from Week ten?

Speaker 4 (27:39):
Yeah, I mean the Jets are just gonna have to
ride Breese Hall until the wheels fall off. I think
we're going to see a massive usage of Breese Hall
here down the stretch because he's a free agent. They
don't care about him. They cannot throw the ball justin
field sucks. Tyrod Taylor apparently is never good enough to
get on the field again, and they have no wide receivers.
Garrett Wilson is gonna miss multiple weeks, Mason Taylor's not

(28:02):
getting the ball. They're leading guys and snaps was like
Arian Smith and Tyler Johnson and we didn't even see
ad Ni Mitchell out there yet. So they just have
no other recourse but to hand the ball and throw
the ball to Breshall as much as possible. So I
think that is just going to be what happens with
the Jets moving forward. We're gonna have crazy volume for Brishall.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
For Boggs. You get to watch that Thursday Night. That's right,
Jets Pats Thursday Night. Let's go all right.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
Over Breshall touches right.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
What was your favorite moment of the week? Box This one.

Speaker 4 (28:36):
My favorite moment was the lady reacting when Travon Henderson
broke off his big run. Like they pan up to
the camera and you can read her lips. I can't
say what she said here.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
As kids around too.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
She said a tour kid, and I was like, I
know exactly what that was.

Speaker 4 (28:54):
And that was someone that's watched Travon Henderson and had
no idea he had this in him, and he absolutely
I saw him do it against the Longhorns in the
playoffs last year, taking a screen in housing it, so yeah,
he was. He was awesome finally getting him the ball
and the fans are recognizing it finally, so that that

(29:16):
moment was a lot of fun. And I keep seeing
them replay it and I'm surprised they're not, you know, cover.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
Over her mouth and language.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
So basically to put it out there, basically she said,
holy cow.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
Yeah that holy it was holy cow, right, yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
Holy cow, That's what it was. Mine was the Davis
Mills diving into the end zone at the end. That
was just a fun moment. I love on backup quarterbacks
lead teams to wins. And you know what, I hate
the Jacksonville I can never get a gauge. I should
never ever and I didn't this week, but it just
drove it home to me. I should never ever ever
bet on the Jacksonville Jaguars one way or another. I've

(29:53):
never figured them out my entire life. I have no
idea what the Jags are when they're good, when they're
bad and different. And that just drove it home because
I thought show was like backup quarterback. I know Houston's
defense good, but they should win that football game. They
should go in and beat that. They did not. They
did not, But good on Davis Mills, fun moment for him.
I like when backup qbs get their moment in the sun. Welsh,
who was the big moment for you from week ten? Oh?

Speaker 2 (30:14):
Yeah, this is selfish because like Dreda said a really
good one, the Rico zero pumps, and there's someone else
that did it, like within two minutes of each other.
That was a great one. Yeah, yeah, that was a
cool moment. Mine was spending Sunday texting back and forth
with Andrew Ericsson because dad was on vacation at Hogsward
or whatever, and we got to do the Betting Pros

(30:36):
show just me and him.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
Where was that?

Speaker 2 (30:38):
I don't know what hogs.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
Hogs hogs word, Yeah, Hoggs Smith.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
You're out of Florida, bro, bro. But on that show,
I decided to bring out a little bit of a ladder,
a little bit of a step stool is that was called?
And I had a bet on Dalton Schultz and I
laddered it. And when I said ladder, Ericson thought it
was like I was going to one hundred and I'm like, no, buddy,
we're going to fifty when forty? So his prop at

(31:11):
thirty four, forty and fifty and we're sitting back because
I finally got him to bet on it because I
took one of his bets. When Dalton Schultz drops a
pass that would have got it, he's getting a target
he's getting five yards per carrying. We're just losing our mind.
And if you follow it on Betting Pros, he then
gets a twenty yard reception, which ensues me to start

(31:31):
texting him. I am him even though I did nothing.
I did absolutely nothing. But we hit the ladder bet
on Betting Pros and me and him were just tracking
it the entire time for Dalton Schultz Dalton Schultz Ladder.
That's where we're at at the point of the season.
But we did cash it on Betting Pros and that
was my favorite moment because again I had everybody just
being like, where's Bogman, Where's you know, where's Joey at

(31:51):
this conference all weekend? So I needed I needed to go.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
It's nice that people were asking, that is very kind,
but you know, we all know.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
When I said, you guys weren't there, they were like,
oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
Well, by the way, speaking of not being here, I
did get a text back from Mike Mayor, Everyone's doing great.
Thanks so much. It was such a wonderful friend, you know,
all that kind of stuff. That's all. It's all here
in the phone.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
And shout up by the way to VVR who by
the way in the last week's show when you were
also were not here. I had a very large bet
that I asked everybody would we ride or cash out?
And we wrote it and we did not win, and
VVR during the show was like, check your email. I
did not for multiple days because I forgot, and then
sent a nice little Starbucks for me in the family

(32:32):
for losing the bed, for literally losing the CD bet.
So VR is the best.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
So you made a coffee on a bet that you lost,
that's pretty.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
Much well, then I did.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
Yeah, I mean it might be cheaper than the coffee.
I meant, munch of the coffee I lost.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
I lost, and I know it's Starbucks, by the way,
I lost a lot of coffee on that bet. But
at least VVR made it a little.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
Bit better, So well, that's good. Let's start with factor fiction.
Actually factor of fiction here from our producer Stef Fantasy
pro should be allowed to take over the Jets GM
position because they clearly can't figure it out for themselves.
Just did a great job getting the two first round
picks for Sauce Gargro. I thought that was a incredible
haul for Sauce Gardner. I don't know what they're gonna
do with those picks.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
But yeah, the first for quinnin though too. Yeah, they
got all these first round picks, three first round picks.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
I got all these fingers. I don't know what to
do with them.

Speaker 4 (33:23):
Yeah, but you know what they can do is they
can use them on offensive linemen that they've already used
first round picks on. It still hasn't worked. So yeah,
maybe they need a quarterback too. And now they need
a middle of the defense and a premiere corner So yeah,
they can use some of these picks to get the
players they just traded away.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
I was about to say it would be hilarious if
they took a defensive lineman and then a cornerback with
two of those three.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
All right, here you go, Factor Fiction time, keep dropping
them in here. Let's start with DJ Vince, Factor, Fiction,
Bucking BTJ are definitely dropable. I'm gonna say fiction on
this one. Guys. I can't drop them yet. I just can't.
I can't imagine anything out on the way wires going
to help you more than the possibility of those guys
helping you.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
That's the thing. Joe is like, can you drop them? Sure?
What are you doing? You pick it up mac holland, like,
who are you getting on my market? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (34:11):
That that's the thing is like if you if you're
in a super shallow league and there's good options out there, great,
But I'm not dropping one of these guys for Quentin
Johnston or whoever.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
And a ten man, though maybe that might be fact
in a ten man. I'm just gonna say.

Speaker 4 (34:26):
There's a possible there's a possibility they don't play, so
it'd be you know, you could look great to be
the smart guy that dropped them earlier.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
But I just I read the question from this next
user and YouTube. I don't want to read it out loud.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
But it's very the one that's.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
Yeah factor fiction. It's hard trusting to Henry as anything
besides an RB two and PPR Welsh factor fiction hard.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
To just cann man, it's hard to I'm going to
say it's I'm only gonna say it's fiction because there's
like a high touch and equity though. I will tell you, man,
I needed that Derek Henry touchdown and then they're like,
you know what we need just as Hill. But I
just think he's still like is Lamar Jackson is like

(35:19):
re established back into this. I want to say this
is a fiction because we know he can go off
for one fifty and two touchdowns. Most of the time.
The red zone is giving to him. I know what
you're saying here, and you're not wrong, like it also
might be. And the reason I hesitated because it's like,
maybe he is just like a high RB two. But
when I see that that you can only trust him
as an RB two, I want to say no, because

(35:40):
it's just it's still King Henry in that offense. They
have no defense. They're gonna have a million offensive opportunities.
I just would love for them to get these other
schmos off the off the backfield and just let Derrek
Henry do all these great stuff.

Speaker 4 (35:53):
A tough matchup against the Browns is like the Browns
are bad, but their defense is still pretty good. But
after that it's that spangles Steelers begles. So I think
Derrick Henry is going to be okay, and that's tress.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
By Low then with that schedule, especially if you want
to wait a week because the Cleveland usually gives him
a hard time. Anyway, They've been good at home. There's no
doubt about that. Our factor fiction Dobbin's injury makes Harvey
a league winner bogs factor fiction.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Um.

Speaker 4 (36:19):
It could yeah, I would say fact, I think Harvey
is gonna get a nice run here while Dobbins is down.
It's just how long is Dobbins's going to be down?
So he definitely can be a league winner if Dobbins
misses so long, but we'll see. What Well, how about
you he prognosis is.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
A league winner. Yeah, I think it's it's just dependent
if Dobbins is just gone. I would actually say yes
than Harvy. But you know what, you know what, he's
not like a league winner because this is the same
thing of Travan Henderson. If I start seeing celebrations of
I told you so it is about R. J. Harvey.
I just know, like it was eight weeks of but
law and he was cudable and then finally he started

(36:56):
getting those touchdowns and having some equity in the offense.
So I think he's too high to have been a
league winner. Where's the league winners where someone gave up
on him and you were able to pick him up.
So I don't know, maybe I'm being too technical about
this stuff, like yeah, sure, if he's the only solo
back that offensive line is really great. He's gonna be awesome.
But I I feel like that allows too many victory
laps on R. J. Harvey, and it's like, you don't

(37:17):
get to do it in week ten for Trayvon and
r J harveyting their wins.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
Yeah, it's it's only your joy every ing.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
That's the only.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
Get out.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
I have been like this for years. The only thing
I don't like is old someone is a pile of
trash for eight weeks and then they're good for two
or three and then everyone's like I told you so,
and it's like, well, dude, we were cutting and couldn't
play the guy.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
Oh wait a minute, like we did the Baseball Show
together for years. There's plenty of guys that have bad
first halves and we're like, you know, it's still a
good player. Let's buy in on them. And then they
have monster second halves. Like, what's the difference. We're at
the halfway point.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
Why here's the difference. Harvey and Traveon have not been
startable for eight weeks. They have not been You've started
them and you've lost, and we said you have to
benish them. In baseball, it's a little bit of a
different it's.

Speaker 4 (38:04):
The individual categories in baseball. It's one winner, one loss
in football. So if you're not your pitcher four weeks
then and.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
You love like I play, it is win loss, okay,
but your pitcher stinks after three weeks, you're cutting him
unless they're like a top ten.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
Countra for instance, he was awful in the first half,
second half of the year. You know, the last couple
of months pretty good, actually pretty useful. But I mean, yeah,
but you don't.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
You don't get to celebrate when they ruined you for
half a year. It's a little thing. I'm not an
accountabilit buddy and all that type of stuff. I don't
care about all of those things. The only thing always
has been where someone is an absolute nothing for seven
weeks and everyone's like gotcha the whole time.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
And this next question, r Z Henderson is the genie.
They can't be put back in the bottle. I'm gonna
say fact on this. I'm sorry, Like, there's there's no
way everybody, Like to Bogg's point earlier, you hold on
to Remandre his insurance.

Speaker 4 (38:55):
But Kyle Mona, I should have been this also and
he wasn't. That's the then he was it's we think
this is.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
So obvious, Bogs. I feel like this one, like the
last two weeks.

Speaker 4 (39:05):
Is just so everybody that watched him in college thought
it was obvious from week one.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
Joe, Yes, but I think, look, maybe Vrabel's just a
mad genius here where he was like, you know what,
We're gonna have the freshest legs of any running back.
And guess what when it gets cold in New England
in November and December, we're gonna have a guy who's
gonna run the football down your throat and make these
big explosive plays. But the fact that it's been twenty
to twenty twenty one's almost five seasons, says you had
an explosive play from the New England Patriots that that
tells you everything, Like you need this, Okay, you need this.

(39:31):
This is how you win games. And I think we
all agree the genie cannot be put back in the ball. There,
hum away, baby, hum away. All right, here's another one. Uh,
this is absolute fake DJ factor fiction. Joe Flacco keeps
the job of Burrow comes back. No, no, no, there's
absolutely fiction. There's no doubt about that one. We already
talked about. Jonathan Taylor being MVP. But here's an interesting

(39:54):
one factor fiction. Egbuka is better than JJ. Justin Jefferson
rest of season Welsh, this is salty. I think this
might be fact.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
I'm gonna say. I want to say fiction. It's a faction.
This is the d X action. I dude, see here's okay,
here's the problem. Like Nailor's getting involved, Addison is there,
They've got the target. Tampa Bay doesn't have anything else

(40:25):
right now, you know what, Okay, I'll go fact.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
It's a fact.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
It's a fact because McCarthy has trained out yet.

Speaker 4 (40:30):
That's the fact that That's the thing to me is
that JJ McCarthy just you know, we should have been
going through this early in the season, these growing pains,
but because he missed so much time, we're going through
them now. So I think the the issues for McCarthy extend,
you know, deep into the season.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
Here here's a fun one factor fiction from Schmidty. Uh football, dude.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
Up until this past, up until this Berlin game, I
would have said the international things are just piles it.

Speaker 4 (41:04):
I don't like either of them, I'll say that, but
I'll say that I dislike overseas football more because I
refuse to wake I refuse to wake up for it,
like at least see I love.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
It because as an East Coaster, it's it's football in
the morning. It's fun.

Speaker 3 (41:21):
It's football our time as a vampire.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
I like from the Goonies for a second day, it's
our time. It's our time down.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
Here, this is what it's our time in Berlin.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
Axel factor fiction. Drake May over Josh Allen rest of
season bogs fiction.

Speaker 4 (41:37):
I still it's still it's still Josh Allen to me.

Speaker 3 (41:41):
But will they be really close? Yes?

Speaker 4 (41:43):
Is it a coin flip? Sure, it could easily go
to May, so it's at least close. But I'm still
going to bank on Josh Allen not playing like he
did against the Dolphins the rest of the year.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
Well, I think this one. Next year Fields is a
non roster player next year, that's fiction. He'll be somewhere.
Have we watched the quarterback player around the league. He'll
be somewhere, but not the Jets.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
Okay, yeah, I was thinking starter for a second. Yeah,
he'll have a he'll have.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
A job, but a job.

Speaker 3 (42:08):
He'll have a job.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
Yeah, yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
Yeah, yeah, I just take a look at this.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
Yeah, string quarterback three one.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
One contest is getting tight. Let's look at the leader
board here. I am at eight, tied with Bogman on
the year. Welsh is at six. So Bogman got Jared
Goff this week, Welsh got Drake Lon and I got zero.
JSN missed by a couple uh I, actually I could
add two. Lamar missed by a couple of yards for
three hundred. He had two ninety something and JSN had
like ninety four yards. So not great, but that's okay.

(42:38):
We're back at it. So this week for my three
one one, am going Baker Mayfield against the Buffalo Bills,
him and Mecca Egbuka. That's my three hundred yard pass
for one hundred yard receiver. And uh I, look, I'm
losing my patience a little bit. Tyler Oljeers really kind
of twisted me into some notts recently. But Jon Robinson
against Carolina Panthers over one hundred yards, I think I

(43:00):
don't feel great about it. I'm gonna be honest, Welsh,
what's your three to one one for a week eleven
in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (43:05):
By the way, you weren't here for me to know that.
Bet we were talking about that. I let ride. It
was a three to one one bet I Sam Donald
Christian McCaffrey, and we needed Ceedee Lamb to get one
hundred and he got eighty five and he had a
chance at it to at the end, which was brutal.
I wish I would have taken them all in the
three one one contest because I would have at least
got two points instead of one last week. This week,

(43:26):
I am gonna go with Joe Flacco. Joe Flacco and
I wrote Cincinnati. I don't think going up against your Pittsburgh.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
Steelers place for Cincinnati.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
Yeah, I know, I don't know why I wrote Cincinnati,
but that was.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
In my head. I really like Cincinnati, I really do.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
But I really like Joe Chili.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
Against right the Cincinnati the chili thing.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
A chili guy, No, it wouldn't be definitely not that
type on your hot on your toilet after So no
thanks Joe Flacco versus the Pittsburgh Steelers. Steelers given up
a bunch of the air. Still, I'm gonna go with
Rico doubtele Atlanta's actually given up the fourth most rushing
yards per game on the year. Rico gets to eat
as the Panthers try to keep winning games, and I

(44:06):
know Bogman's got this guy, but I'm tailing because I
want to sweep it. Jamar Chase, I'm pairing with Joe
Flacco against the Pittsburgh Steelers because Jamar Chase all the
targets of Pittsburgh Steelers corners struggled in so Rico Flacco
and Jamar Chase for me for this week.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
Let me tell you that that Atlanta Carolina game, if
that's not four outcomes, I don't know what is. Yeah,
we saw Carolina. I'm off the floor with them. I
feel like Atlanta, should you know, give it right back.
If this went under, it wouldn't surprise me. If it
went grossly over, it wouldn't surprise me. I still can't
believe Carolina lost at home to the Saints, like it
was just Calin.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
I had him in a survivor. We had them in
the survivor.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
Me I did too, and he got eliminated. He told
me about it this morning.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
And everybody else had Buffalo.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
So yeah, we do we have a it's a it's
a three strike survivor. So we actually, luckily we have
two strikes now, but we got one strike this because
we have to pick two every single week, and unfortunately,
but we're still alive.

Speaker 3 (44:55):
The Acts dropped on this week.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
Then after league got the Acts, everybody has got at
least like one.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
I like this strikes. That's that's actually fun.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
It's actually very fun.

Speaker 3 (45:03):
I completely agree three like most.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
Of the Yeah, yeah, I've won a bunch of those
over my life. And then like this last two years
have been brutal for me. Like I was out I
think of this one. This show was out at we
three or four. I was like, oh man, just brutal.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
Yeah, we got we got our first strike in week
four because of the Niners.

Speaker 3 (45:19):
Yeah, but that's what you.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
All right, So Bog's three one one this week?

Speaker 3 (45:24):
What do you have?

Speaker 4 (45:24):
Yeah, we're gonna go. Josh allenvers Tampa Bay. I just
don't think Tampa Bay gives a lot of running rooms.
So Josh Allen is going to have to pass to
keep up with Baker Mayfield and that uh strong Tampa
Bay Bucks offense for the running back Devin h Chan
in Madrid against Washington with no darn pain in the
middle because he took a swing at a monro St
Brown out of nowhere. So he's gonna be suspended for

(45:47):
this game. The interior of that defense is ripped up.
You can see there was not a lot of effort
last week either. I think dan Quinn might be gone
at the end of the season as well. They just
look lost right now, specifically on defense. It's Washington, so
a chan with a big game in Madrid. And then
I mean, Joe, I don't know how you take anybody
but mar Chase to get one hundred yards after you

(46:08):
had two thousand targets on Thursday night football against the
four hundred receptions and ten thousand yards.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
So all right, but if he doesn't and I get mine,
then I'm pulling ahead of you, guys. So it's probably stupid,
are you? Are you saying that you will allow me
to change it? And we're just going to ride or die,
the three of us together on one.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
I mean, what you want to do, whatever, whatever you
want to do.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
That's not good television. That's not good TV. I'm gonna
get you.

Speaker 3 (46:32):
I thought that those weird rules.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
But I'm good. I picked, I'm done.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
I don't believe in rules.

Speaker 4 (46:37):
That's fine for society.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
Well that's that's a society. That's a story for another time.
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Twitch again, Twitch dot t v slash Fantasy Pros. We're
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So shout out to our whole team there for making
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subscribe to our YouTube channel as well. That'll do it
for us. But the story of the game goes on.

(47:02):
For the Welsh, It's got bogman. I'm Joey p. We'll
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