Fantasy Football Takeaways: Fact or Fiction + Week 12 Waiver Wire & Trade Advice | Out of Bounds (Ep. 1850) - FantasyPros - Fantasy Football Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in everybody to Fantasy Pros. This is out of bounds.
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very much, Trophy Smack. We appreciate you. All right, boys,
it was a crazy week of football. It feels like
all of our teams either score at one hundred and
fifty points or fifth points. When you look at all

(01:01):
the standings and you look at what's going on there,
it was a strange week of streamers going off, the
Michael Wilsons of the world, the Tuckers of the world,
like all these guys are scoring massive amounts of points,
and guys like Lamar Jackson who couldn't get out of
their own way, and Justin Herbert. It was nuts out
there in those fantasy streets. Scott Bogman, how did your
teams survive Week eleven?

Speaker 2 (01:21):
First of all, Joe, what kind of coffee are you
drinking right now? Because I'm not a coffee guy.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
I don't go to coffee, okay, I don't need to
bottle up whatever this is last year to me, No,
I think I had coffee, like, okay, the occasional espresso martini.
I guess that counts because you know me and Erickson
roll that way. But I have not had anything but
tea basically, I don't know since probably before the summertime.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
So I don't excuse me of anything. But you got
a lot of energy this morning. Maybe I'm just tired,
But I think it's you. I'm happy the Steelers won.
I you know, I'm not happy that players are getting
spit on out here.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
Don't like that. We'll get to that a little later.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
But yeah, my fantasy teams, I got dropped in guillotine
this week. JT was carrying me and the bye we
crushed me in a bunch of leagues. So lost a
lot in a bunch of leagues, one big and some.
I think you're right. I think it was you know,
it was all or nothing. I feel like this week
for fantasy it was either you were part of the
injury for great Brigade of Sunday Bloody Sunday. I can't

(02:22):
even speak here, so maybe it is me of Sunday
Bloody Sunday here. You are either part of that or
nobody got hurt and your team put up a decent
amount of point. So that's what it was like in
all my leagues as well.

Speaker 4 (02:32):
Joey Well turned into porky pig.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
He's like, that's it for me.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
Well, it was a very strange week of all the
things that you know were odd in Week eleven, and
there was a lot of odd to choose from which
was the one that kind of just like rung your
bell the weirdest and the one that kind of hit
you like, wow, I can't believe that happened. I can't believe,
you know, never saw that coming. I took a bunch
of Michael Wilson questions. I was like, yeah, well, I

(02:59):
guess it's a it's okay. I didn't expect him to
have one hundred and eighty five receiving yards.

Speaker 5 (03:03):
Yeah, well, I was told you took a lot of
Tetroa McMillan questions as well on the live stream. That
didn't work as well, either or not.

Speaker 4 (03:11):
There's a lot of weeks.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
Let's set it off. Well, well, let's set it up.
Let's see the Falcons give up the least amount of
receiving yards of any team. And Bryce Young was coming
to town for the second time, and Bryce Young put
up a four to fifty spot. I mean, how of
course he did.

Speaker 5 (03:24):
Of course he did, et cetera. Yeah, there was just
a bunch of weird So this is a bad week.
We always do those, like, you know, when's the Vegas
get right type of stuff that's going on. I mean,
me and Erickson got smashed across the board on bets
on the betting pro side, you know the one that
hit home how you kind of referenced it is a
little bit different where you like shock shock, because this one,

(03:45):
like on paper, you kind of get it.

Speaker 4 (03:46):
But Sam Tarnold was horrifically bad, like next level bad.
He had been carrying this team.

Speaker 5 (03:54):
They had been you know, this was a position, it
was a big game of the week where you're not
gonna be able to run the ball, You're gonna pass
the balls. Sam Darnald had just been dropping dimes. Jackson
Smith and Jigba is just consistently the one hundred yard monster.
They got Rashidi he you think they're gonna go and
take the top off. He was insane. Four picks, He
had a fumble that I think ended up not being

(04:14):
a fumble at the end, like.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
This stuff.

Speaker 5 (04:18):
Yeah, well, I'm just saying, like I was backing him.
I've been backing Sam Darnald. I thought the two touchdowns
is going to be a lock. Definitely, don't let erness
Juns do that. But the same Donald one of all
the crazy stuff, I was like, how are.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
We this bad?

Speaker 4 (04:31):
Like it was next level?

Speaker 1 (04:33):
A lot of next level stuff, a lot of big
breaking news, a lot of injuries too, But we want
to get your questions. Remember we got factor fiction at
the end of the show, so drop all your factor fictions.
We'll do that in our final segment. So again, ask
us questions here. Let's start here with glasses question. Is
Chase getting suspended? Now, Jamar Chase got into it with
Jalen Ramsey in case you missed it, and I would
think it's a gotta be a lock that he gets suspended.

(04:55):
They sent the president with Carter in week one. I
don't know how you don't follow it. It's when you
go look back at the tape though, then he definitely
spits in his general direction, and that seems like enough. Now, Welsh,
I know you didn't quite see the replay of that.

Speaker 5 (05:07):
Uh, but I saw the replay, but I didn't watch
like the follow up replays. I saw like seven different cuts,
so like, did he spit? It just didn't look like it.
But I didn't get the Zuppruter film where it was
zoomed into Twitter two hundred No. No, I'm saying like
the initial ones were just shots and it just didn't
look like anything happened.

Speaker 4 (05:26):
And then you know you get the big quick ones.
And that's fine.

Speaker 5 (05:28):
That's it's it's I agree if they've set the precedent,
I hadn't seen it before, Ramsey. Uh, with all the
k I I think I think there's a suspension in
tow for sure.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
I think you should be.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
I think that, like you guys said, the president has
been set.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
And he Damien Harris was talking about yesterday, He's like,
why you just gonna lie in front of God and everybody?

Speaker 3 (05:50):
Like we can see the video. You spit right on
his chest.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
We saw it, like and he just said I didn't
spit on nobody or whatever. He said, like, you clearly
did it. I mean in Ramsey said, hey, look you
spit on me, and I don't. I don't care about
football at that point.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
It's up.

Speaker 5 (06:06):
Oh man, I watched I just watched the video. Good Lord,
that there is there is no.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
Doubt about that.

Speaker 4 (06:13):
Why are why are all these dudes spitting on each other?
This is cool?

Speaker 3 (06:16):
That's what this is what this is.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
Damian Harris's whole thing yesterday he said, why are you
gonna lie in from everybody? And when did this become
a thing? This is disgusting, I agree, is just throw
some fists.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
Just shove the dude.

Speaker 4 (06:27):
Ye, shove them.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
Can't more disrespectful. That's why I guess I don't know.
That's if you were to break it down, the clip
up for you. I want you to be clear about
the suspension before you comment on.

Speaker 5 (06:41):
It wasn't just like a little baby spit. There was
just like dribble and stuff like That's I would be pissed.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
I don't think. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
Ye the way there the grass twenty yard.

Speaker 4 (06:53):
Line, that's what it was.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
Let's go to DJ's question here, what's up, guys? Factor fiction?
Bryce Young is a QB rest of season? All right, Well,
actually I pulled up this one accidentally here it's a
factor fiction, but we'll answer it anyway. Here, Bryce Young
being a QB one rest of season only if he
plays Atlanta every single week.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
I think he has one other QB one week, Yes,
against Atlanta.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
It was also against a most positive it was, I'll
double check.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
I don't know who it was against Atlanta, but it's
only one other one. And he's been under QB two
like QB twenty five or lower like five times. So no,
I can't I can't get on board with Bryce Young
being great threat of the year.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
I get on board maybe with him being the guy
next year there, Like I think they're ready to move
on from him, potentially Welsh. I don't know what you think,
but every time we think, okay, when they're ready to
move on from Bryce Young and like start Laguios where
he drops a game like this and everybody just has pause.
So he had a QB eight finish bogs in week two,
he was QB twelve and week six and QB two yesterday,

(07:55):
those were the best finishes he had. The other game
against Atlanta, I apologize he was not as good, but
that they did beat They.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
Ran, they ran all over him in that game.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
Yeah, they did, they did.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
They passed crazy.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
But I mean, I mean, I'm not believing in Bryce
Young just because yesterday, wellsh are you.

Speaker 5 (08:11):
No, not that not at all, Like what I don't
even know what we're talking about. Great, he had an
awesome day, Like it's still not a good He's not good,
Like maybe he's going to play and.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
Uh match up there.

Speaker 5 (08:22):
I'm just yeah, bro, I'm surprised that they moved away
and they were able to pass was forty six times.

Speaker 4 (08:28):
That's that's him. As a QB one.

Speaker 5 (08:30):
No, he just he has a couple of those games
they unleashed him like forty something times. In the passing game,
Laguette has stepped up a little bit. Cooker's not really
being involved like they've got more offense. But to be
like he's a no doubt number one, No, I don't.
I don't think so he's just moving into like that
streaming realm. And then I would just comment that I
don't think they're like ready to move on at all.

(08:51):
I just think they're open to the possibilities, like they
could bring in competition. I don't think they're going to
bring in any veteran next year. They did that with
like Dalton here. If anything, maybe they find like a
second or third round quarterback for competition. I think they're
gonna do this experiment again.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
All right, let's go to money Station's question, what's up
fellas Happy Monday. What do you guys think about Chris
Rodriguez rest of season? Well, they're on a buye this week,
so I think you could sneak him through the waiver
wire and it's pretty clear that he is the one
you want for fantasy. I think just from a workload standpoint,
but Bill's still around. I think Bill is droppable, especially
because of the buye this week, especially if you've had injuries. Welsh,

(09:25):
what are your thoughts on that commander's backfield which you
saw on the Sunday morning.

Speaker 5 (09:29):
I think it's pretty clear you don't want any part
of that backfield. That's what I've been saying this month. Yeah,
every time it's like, well Bill Crossky's top twenty, Like Nope,
Like you just sometimes you have to make the commitment,
like yeah, there's gonna be a guy that's gonna like
jump up, but why try to take the risk? I
know what you're saying, like, oh, Rodriguez has got like
the goal line potential, but I want zero part of it,
especially with Mariota under there.

Speaker 4 (09:51):
So no, absolutely not all.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
Right, Bogs, any thoughts on this commander's backfield? Were you Rodriguez?

Speaker 2 (09:57):
Yeah, it's c Rod over everybody else there. But it's a
big gross mess. McNichols is getting third downs and uh,
they're mixing early downs between Sea Rod and Bill.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
It's gross. So let me ask you.

Speaker 4 (10:09):
This, who would you rather Chris Rodriguez or Kenny Gainwell?

Speaker 1 (10:15):
I think Chris Rodriguez because Gainwell is still circumstantial.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
You know, because I said this morning Jalen Warren could
have gone back in if this was like a playoff game.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
They just didn't.

Speaker 4 (10:25):
So they also used Gainwell in the spots. They use
him in there.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
But look at look at the previous week though Welsh
Gainwell was in on a million plays and had two touches.
So they but but it's mainly when Warren is hurt.
So I would rather have sea Rod. But it's not
by a wide margin.

Speaker 5 (10:44):
Even in that circumstantial evidence is not being accepted sustainable.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
It's circumstantial because I think if you have Warren, it's
imperative to have Gainwell at this point because does well
Gainwell does make it, does become that guy who makes
that immediate jump. Whereas if I'm just talking about like
building fancy rosters, like Chris Rodriguez is still startable every week,
whereas Gable.

Speaker 4 (11:03):
He's a three, you think he's a top thirty six.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
Trying back, I think with this coming bye week where
we have four more teams on a bye, I think
he's a start Oh and well, there are one of
them this week, but they're one of them next big
bye week right that he is a starter or if
you have more injuries.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Look, he's going to have fifteen carries and he's most
likely to score a touchdown out of that group. That's
what makes him viable, not that he's very viable, and
he's probably not going to have that touchdown most weeks,
so a lot of it is going to be fifteen
rushes for sixty to seventy yards and no catches because
Bill and McNichols are getting all that stuff. So he's

(11:36):
a gross option, but he's an option that is touchdown
at Pennant and might score.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
Also a lot of breaking news as of Monday too,
Michael Pennix out for the year. So look, the Falcons
are toasted.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
Tour is over.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
Yeah, so so now you get Kirk Cousins in there.
So we also have an injured Drake London. We're still
waiting on a little bit more clarity as of recording
this where we're at with him.

Speaker 5 (12:00):
I think they said he's not playing this week, like
that's already out, it's just further so yuck.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
Yeah, But I feel like I had a similar injury
with Ricky Piersoll that he wasn't playing this week, and
I didn't see him again until November, and that is
problematic for me. So Bogman again, the downgrade of London
with the injury and what we've seen, how Kirk Cousins
or haven't seen. What are your thoughts on where the
Alanta Falcons offense is from a fantasy perspective?

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Now, yeah, not great, right, because Darnell Mooney is your
next man up, which is a massive downgrade. He hasn't
been doing much of anything this year. I think they
might use Bijeon more as like a slot option and
run Tyler out this year a little bit more. We
saw them doing that until this game when they were
down most of the game here. So it's just not
good overall. I mean, Kirk Cousins, I love Kirk Cousins,

(12:48):
but he has not shown us anything this year. One
really bad game, one okay game, So I mean it's
just not in a good spot. I think you know,
you get what you get from Pitt. He's still a
tight end. He should see more volume and Bejeon should
see more volume. But uh, this is not a good
situation obviously, taking out your starting quarterback and your best

(13:10):
wide out.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
This is fascinating question. Awesome to have asking Christian Watson
be a feasible replacement for London rest of season.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
No, okay, you say no, I'm gonna say absolutely not.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
I'm gonna say this. If you're a team on the
bubble right now and they're telling you that Drake Lunnon
is going to miss a week and then eventually it
comes back and it's Kirk Cousins again, one week turns
into three weeks very quickly with these PCL injuries. We've
seen it this year already. Wasn't that what brock Bowers
had as well? Correct me if I'm wrong. Correct wasn't
a PCL is? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (13:37):
I think so? How many weeks?

Speaker 1 (13:39):
Six weeks? Okay? If you're a bubble team in the
playoffs right now, like you're, you can compete like, but
you don't have Drake London now, and you want to
make that swap to a team that is already in
first place or second place and take Christian Watson, I
would do that deal. Sorry, that's my that's my stance
on it. You can see you're.

Speaker 4 (13:55):
Saying at been on this conversation.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
You are every day from two to three is.

Speaker 5 (14:04):
Yeah, I got it, Joe, just but I didn't I
didn't know if I quite understood what you were getting at.
You would trade Drake London today for Christian Watson.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
Yes, because he's just shutting down London.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
I think right, because in three weeks, four weeks from now,
when they've lost more games and they're completely irrelevant, there's
no guarantee Drake London comes back to play a B
he's healthy enough in time to make an impact. And
see also, or I feel like that kid from Home
Alone where he's.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
Like D two and then buzz.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
Buzz, Yeah, what are you doing in my room?

Speaker 4 (14:35):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (14:35):
Yeah? Look? And then the third thing is if you're
a playoff team ish bubble team right like you're right
on that bubble, you need productivity. You've just lost Drake
London for a couple of weeks. You can't afford to
wait three weeks for going to come back because you're
gonna miss the playoffs. I make that deal.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
I understand what you're saying. I just I have to
wait to see what they're gonna say about London beyond
this week before I move him. Specifically, I'm port to
pick again. You could, Lord, I need some sugar. I
switched to Coke zero. I think the sugar is killing me.
I have the caffeine, but not the sugar. I think
what's going on here is we see this great game

(15:12):
for Christian Watson, right, two touchdowns, though his stat line
looked exactly like the previous two weeks, three weeks that
he played where he was wide receiver thirty wide receiver
forty eight, wide receiver forty six in PPR or in
half PPR. Excuse me, So he's posting like borderline wide
receiver four three numbers and then he scores twice. He

(15:33):
is touchdown to Pennant like most players are. But I
just don't I don't think this role for him is
going to be scoring a touchdown every single week. It's
what you want from him every single week, which it's
what makes him a good swing play, right, but not.
You can't trade your wide receiver one without knowing for
sure he is going to miss multiple weeks, and I

(15:53):
just don't know that yet. And I'm not willing to
downgrade to Watson.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
I guess I get. I guess My point is, I
watch it healthy right now and making plays that I know.
He's not a high volume guy.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
You're doing You're getting it. You're getting out before the
big announcement of the injury. I understand what you're doing.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
Well, I'm getting out because I feel like I've learned
the hard way this year as someone who has brock
Bowers in a couple of leagues that you know, oh
it's a week or two, and this injury is not
a week or two injury. It's a four to six
week injury. And now the difference of the calculation is
it's the end of the season and Atlanta is irrelevant
and at this point, the same reason why I'm telling
people drop Garrett Wilson if you have one ir spot
and you want to put somebody else on it, because

(16:29):
he ain't coming back and being relevant, and he comes
back theoretically week fifteen maybe, and then maybe that's the
ramp up week if you're lucky. What I'm saying is
you got to play for now we're approaching week twelve.
I think that's my take. Go ahead, you get someone
your mind.

Speaker 5 (16:43):
Oh you know, just like to your credit, the Falcons
are three and seven. There's nothing to play for. They
just lost their quarterback, so there's no need to press this.
I guess it's just.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
Like there's still possibility two weeks.

Speaker 4 (16:56):
Yeah, they're saying.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
This is like, would you take Pittman's reasonable?

Speaker 4 (17:00):
I think you're in a more reasonable ringe. I think
it's the guy that you chose.

Speaker 5 (17:03):
What's like everybody on the planet before I got it
to trade Ted Roll and McMillan, like.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
That would have been what I was one of those guys. Yeah,
I still kind of am.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
All right, fair Terro mcgillin's another guy too. If you
could pull that off, I think you would consider.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
But yeah, well I mean you trade him for a
lot more now, Yeah, well yeah, well you know right,
you thrown from four hundred and fifty again, so.

Speaker 5 (17:23):
If you can get tetro at McMillan for London right now,
because the news hasn't circulated into this big thing, I
smashed that under the circumstances of everything you said. It's
just Christian Watt, like Romeo Dobbs was just bobble hands,
like he was dropping every single past. Christian Watson made
a couple of really great plays in that one, like Love.
I don't think Love is that great. I don't think
Watson is consistent. So it's just the name that you pick.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
Oh that's fair enough, all right. The let's talk about
the Cleveland Browns quarterback situation of the Jets situation. That
looks like Gabriel is going to probably miss this week
with the concussion, so we're getting Shador Sanders and then
Tyrod Taylor is going to be back under center for
the Jets. So we're getting that announcement from Aaron Glenn,
so Fields is out. Well, who would you rather start
this coming week? Should Door Sanders or Tyrod Taylor?

Speaker 4 (18:08):
Uh, let me look at the man. I mean neither.

Speaker 5 (18:11):
I'd rather empty have an empty quarterback position. My I'm
gonna tell you my gut, says Tyrod Taylor. But I
want to look at the match that Door's got the Yeah,
I mean Tyrod's got the Ravens defense. I mean, to
be fair, the Raiders are going up against the brown
for Shador, but sure it didn't look good like he
was just like, hey, there's another guy with a different

(18:31):
jersey and throwing it to him like, I don't think
he's ready for any of this. At least Taylor's a vet.
I don't like either one of these, but it would
be Taylor for sure. I was sure not gonna be
the bottom quarterback ranked this comment.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
I think I would play with a full week of
practice with the Ones because now there's nothing standing in
his way. I would I play Cleveland, Joe, Who are
and who are the Jerry Judy? Tell me the Jets
wide receiver that's as good as Jerry Judy.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
Bryce Brince Hall is better than everybody in Cleveland. So name, yeah, yeah,
I don't even know his stupid name, and he's better
than everybody. So look, John Metchi didn't look bad. I've
seen I've seen Tyrod Taylor play quarterback before in the NFL.
We saw a quarter and a half of Shador and
it was miserable, So I don't care if he's practicing

(19:16):
all week with the Ones.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
A few less drops in that last drive, so we
take that like that guy made a great play in
the end zone. I like I like.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Schador more than I like Dylan Gabriel because Shador has
rushing upside. He didn't have to at Colorado, but his
father is one of the best athletes to ever live.
His brother played safety, right, He's an athletic dude. He
can run. So I would rather have Shador than Dylan Gabriel.
But I've seen Tyrod have success in the NFL. I
would a million times go with Tyrod even with this

(19:44):
disgusting wide receiver corps. Sure Jerry Judy woud be the
best wide receiver on the Jets by like maybe this much,
not much at all.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
He's not very good.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
All right, One more question, fac too. Has Jacoby Brissette
played himself into a starting role next year? Somewhere? I'm
old enough to remember a couple of years ago when
he was at the Browns where I remember they had
a winning record for a few weeks and then they
never got him, and they should never have gotten rid
of him. They were playing defense, run the football. Jacoby
Brissette was, you know, just to handle it, keeping keeping
things like just chill. Everybody loved him. They talk about

(20:14):
what a great guy he is, the locker room with
a leader, all that stuff. And now I know he
was terrible as the Patriots quarterback last year, but the
Patriots last year were disaster under drawn Mayo, so like,
I can't even blame him so much. But I mean,
setting an NFL record of completions in the game forty seven,
I believe it was right? Is that what it was?
That's nuts? Bogs, Like, don't you think like he's at
least getting a shot in a week quarterback class where

(20:34):
some other organizations is gonna be like, you know, let's
bring in Jacoby Brissett and surround him with some talent
and maybe he'll be okay.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
He is the final piece of somewhere, like if he
went to Minnesota and was starting right now where McCarthy was,
that would be that that would be excellent, really interesting.

Speaker 5 (20:48):
I'll do you guys went better real quick. He's the
piece in Arizona. K Murray's gone. Maybe I'm I think
you're right, you guys, you're talking about other teams they've
been talking with the stream month out here and bring
them back.

Speaker 4 (21:02):
I think they should talking about him.

Speaker 5 (21:04):
Kyler Murray and the Chokoby Brissett situation for the last month.
I think Kyler Murray is getting traded.

Speaker 4 (21:11):
He's done.

Speaker 5 (21:11):
They bring back Brissett, and that gives them an opportunity
to go and draft a quarterback and develop them under
Unless someone's going to give forris Set a multi year contract,
which they're not, it'll be at best a two year
with some type of option. I think the Cardinals do
that Kyler Murray. They ship out for more picks. And
they draft a young quarterback to develop under Kyler's done
Chacoby Brissett. Don't pretend all the pieces he would be

(21:32):
good with in other teams.

Speaker 4 (21:33):
It's Arizona.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
Yeah, but I think like you have the Colonels. I
don't know what Marvin is. I know Trey McBride is awesome.
Give him another wide receiver there, so he has like
three really good options. Like if he would have gone
to the Colts right where we see Daniel Jones having
a lot of success this year, I think that would
have been a good situation. But if you put him
in Pittsburgh where you only have DK, you put him

(21:54):
in New York where there's nobody, in Cleveland, where there's nobody,
he's not gonna be good. He has to be elevated
by the players around.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
All right, let's play a little game. I'm gonna bring
up the playoff picture right now, and you could play
at home when you're watching. Drop your comments below here
on the Twitch and on YouTube as well. I'm gonna
ask both these guys to pick a team from the
AFC side and the NFC side that is not making
the playoffs. So look at the AFC side right now,
you have Denver right now is the one seed on
the bye you have Buffalo Pittsburgh, the five and four Chargers,
Indy six and three. Jacksonville is the seventh spot in

(22:23):
New England is the two right now, So New England
would have a home playoff game. Boggs, you're AFC guy.
Tell me which of these teams is out of this
playoff mix in a couple weeks from now when we're
looking back at this.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
I think the Chargers are two beat up to make it.
You know, Jacksonville is an easy pick, but I think
the Chargers missing the tackles are They're just rough right now.
Herbert looked miserable. He looks a little banged up. Obviously,
Hampton might be coming back after the bye week.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
We'll see.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
I like that they get, you know, a nice week
to regroup here and get a little healthier. But it
looked real bad last week. So they beat up Pittsburgh,
but that was Pittsburgh being awful. So right, wow, I
think it's the Chargers.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
You're the NFC guy, So let's take a look at
the other side of that page. Show. On the NFC side,
you got the Eagles with another ugly w under their helmets.
You got Seattle and Tampa at the five and the four,
you got Green Bay at the six, and look at
that first place Bears Seth our producer has no idea
how to feel. He's there at the top of the division.
They've got seven wins, and he's more uncomfortable now than

(23:25):
he was when they had a losing record. And then
you have the your forty nine ers Welsh and the
Rams at the two spot, fort nine ers at the seven.
So which one of these teams doesn't make it into
the playoffs? In your opinion?

Speaker 4 (23:35):
I think this is so tough.

Speaker 5 (23:37):
I think the easy thing to say is the Niners
as a seven and the division Rams are eight and two,
Seahawks are seven and three. But here's my problem with
saying the Niners.

Speaker 4 (23:46):
They just got healthy.

Speaker 5 (23:48):
Think of this stupid team, right, they just got pretty back,
they just got puresol back, they've got kittled back. They
just now their defense is atrocious and they couldn't bring
in Samuel or anything. So I definitely think there's a
pot possibility that they could be.

Speaker 4 (24:01):
On the outs.

Speaker 5 (24:02):
I'm gonna say I think that the team that it's
coming out from is the NFC North, and that's a
little bit of a cheat. My gut says it's the
Chicago Bears, even though they're the three three spot. But
look at this, they're one game back from each other.
Bears are seven and three Packers or six and three,
and Packers are the six seeds. So it takes two

(24:23):
losses for the Bears to start being on the potential
outs here. I just don't trust this team. I think
the Packers are in a bad spot. They got so
lucky that Josh Jacobs is avoiding any big, major injury,
so I tend to lean that the Packers are going
to be able to hold on. The Bears are going
to fall apart. Their defense is really bad. And I'm
going to say wildly. Maybe it's not gonna be popular,

(24:44):
but I'm going to say that three seed of the
Bears at this moment is the team that's gonna get
knocked out.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
I don't want to count the Lines out yet either
for the playoffs, because they're gonna have the Giants this
week in their own building, and you know they're gonna
turn around, score forty points and everyone's gonna be back
on the bandwagon.

Speaker 4 (24:56):
I wasn't even thinking of that, you're one hundred percent.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
Right of about like the lines are like, that's the
way part. It's like, I think it's you know, what's
the calls coming from inside the house. I think it's
coming from within the division that the Lions will come
through and neither knock out both one of the Bears
or the Packers. I think from that and and I
don't look, Dan Campbell drives me crazy, like if he
goes for another fourth down, I might break my tell.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
Can we put that? Can we put up that bracket
one more time? Sethuh? Let's get look where the Yeah,
the Chiefs are not in it, and they ac yet
either the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
Well, that's I think where the Chargers dropout comes from. Possibly,
you know, you could see them, you know, if they
if the Chargers keep losing games within that division, the
Chiefs make Look, the Chief's gotta get their crap together.
But what do we always talk about? Bogs and the
betting pro shows. The team that loses the Super Bowl
every year, especially when they want, lose in historically bad fashion,
never rebounds the next year, typically the first of all,

(25:46):
they've never made the super Bowl again. The only team
never do that to lose the Super Bowl and get back.
In the last twenty five years was Tom Brady and
the Patriots and they won. So now on do they
not win, they don't get back and some of them
don't even make the playoffs the next year. So it's brutal.
The Chiefs aren't in. There's a couple good teams that are,
you know, float around thatt AFC that I think are
competitive at least, so we'll see how that all shakes out.
All right, let's talk about our takeaways from the week.

(26:08):
My first takeaway obviously Bryce Young should only play the Falcons.
Every company that Panthers versus Falcons is a gimme. That
is absolutely it. Welsh, what was your takeaway from week eleven.

Speaker 5 (26:18):
Well, it's perfect transitions that we just talked about. This
is the most beatable Chiefs team in I don't even
know how long.

Speaker 4 (26:26):
And I'll say another thing.

Speaker 5 (26:27):
To throw What you guys were saying like, oh the
Chiefs could get that, I'm not sure that they can
get there.

Speaker 4 (26:31):
I was looking Patrick.

Speaker 5 (26:32):
Mahomes, has they have the rate of Fantasy Fantasy points
data has like the turnover worthy throw stack, which I
think is kind of an interesting one. Because you're just
looking at like how bad this team has been. Patrick
Mahomes is at near the tippy top. He's got the
most turnover worthy throws inside the top ten. Well of

(26:53):
inside the top ten, so throws that are nine yards
or lower, he has the number one most turnover throws.
Guess what of twenty yards or more. He's second in
turnover worthy throws. So his accuracy is in like the
sixty four the and justic completion percentage is bad. What
I'm throwing out here is like he has been wildly inconsistent.
And this is pairing with the team that is one

(27:15):
in four on the road. Mind you, this in the AFC,
there is one winless team that is the Cleveland Browns.
Next up, it is tied for the Chiefs being the
worst on the road.

Speaker 4 (27:25):
They're five and five.

Speaker 5 (27:26):
If they make the playoffs, they're gonna be playing on
the road. They can't play on the road right now.
Patrick Mahomes has been a disaster from the position.

Speaker 4 (27:34):
He has put all of these great.

Speaker 5 (27:35):
They have great receivers, they have no real trustworthy running game.
They're not playing well on the road. Like listen, they're
the Chiefs. Anything can happen I don't want to take
away from any of that, but they are the most
beatable version of a team that we've seen, and if
they sneak into the playoffs, I think it's going to
kind of all be for nothing. And their fantasy options
are becoming less trustworthy than we've ever seen before. And

(27:56):
I think because it all revolves around Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 4 (27:59):
And maybe you.

Speaker 5 (28:00):
Can go in and say it's the receivers and it's
the routes and it's a play calling that's the problem.
But Patrick Mahomes has been kind of the worst version
we've seen in quite some time, and he's showing it
from whether it's short or deep ball throws. It's just
that middle that he's being.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
Able to make a year for him. And the Ravens
aren't in that mix either on that chart also, so
don't forget about them.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
At some point, I pulled up PFF real quick and uh,
he is tied. Patrick Mahomes is tied with Daniel Jones
for fifth most turnover worthy plays at any in any
part of the field.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
And can you guys name this week?

Speaker 1 (28:32):
Oh wait, it's the Indianapolis Colts, boys and girl, but.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
Can you name me?

Speaker 2 (28:38):
The four quarterbacks with more turnover worthy plays and uh
DJ and Patrick Mahomes more this year, more this year.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
Right now, Geno Smith is not in that.

Speaker 4 (28:51):
Poss Nix is not in there either.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
I was surprised by that. So there, Uh one of
them is no longer starting. That's you're probably your only hint.
But yet no, not justin field, not that team.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
Game. You really pushing me here to the bottom of
the bear.

Speaker 4 (29:12):
Oh yeah, hold oh oh, Tua to is number one.

Speaker 3 (29:16):
Bang bang bang Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
He has nineteen plays. And then there's three other awards.
It's seventeen. Not cam Ward either. Cam Ward has a twelve.
If Jackson Dart had to have a high no, not
Jackson Dart. I mean, okay, one of them. Okay, there's
another one in Florida, Trevor Lawrence. That's it has seventeen.

(29:42):
One is an MVP candidate until maybe the last couple
of weeks, and the other one has been benched.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
Baker Mayfield.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
Baker Mayfield is in there. Yes, say, who was the
bench guy who plays for the Moreland sch Maintz.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
Oh, well, that would be Spencertler.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
Spencerler, Spencer Schmatler.

Speaker 5 (30:00):
That's the only thing, the only impression. The only thing
to the Chiefs that will be interesting is the rest
of the season schedule that seth sent us. They've got,
you know, they got the Colts, which is gonna be
a tough matchup.

Speaker 4 (30:17):
You got Dallas.

Speaker 5 (30:18):
We'll see which way that can go, Houston, and then
the final four weeks it's the Chargers, the Titans, the
the Broncos, and the Raiders. There's some winnable games in there,
so they could sneak in, but again they have just
been so about on the road. They sneak in, and
I think they absolutely fumble it.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
All right, Bogs, what was your big takeaway from the week?

Speaker 2 (30:38):
I think that all of the weapons in Minnesota need
to take a little bit of a downgrade on our
week to week process. With JJ McCarthy going through the
growing pains here, this is what we're supposed to be
seeing early in the season from McCarthy is kind of
riding the ship and getting things right. Obviously, he was
hurt for a long time, so we got you know,

(30:59):
Carson wentz and until he was too broken to play anymore,
and then we got JJ McCarthy. So I just think
justin Jefferson goes to like you know, he's still a
wide receiver one, but he's probably close to the bottom
end Normally, Addison is a borderline start most weeks, Aaron
Jones is getting enough volume to do stuff. But I
just I think it's going to click for McCarthy at

(31:21):
some point, but I think it might be at the
end of the year.

Speaker 4 (31:23):
Is it a safe space.

Speaker 5 (31:25):
Is this a safe space to say that JJ McCarthy
is not good, Maybe he will be good.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
I'm saying now, yeah, right now, I think that's what
I'm saying. But I'm going ray nicer than you.

Speaker 4 (31:35):
Yeah, But like everybody was all like, you.

Speaker 5 (31:37):
Know, oh, guys, you had six quarters and yeah, two
of them were good little and it's like, okay, well
all the quarters look really bad right now. Every decision
he makes looks bad. He doesn't look good. Doesn't mean
he can't be good.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
That is like.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
You're getting two things here, though. I think number one
is he can't run as much as he normally would
because of this injury, right, so you're not getting that
crazy rushing upside that we're all kind of waiting for
McCarthy to have. I think we'll get that by the
end of the year. The more healthy gets, the more
he's gonna run, right, and also when everything slows down
for him, the weapons are incredible. You can see flashes
of it, you can see moments of it, but it's

(32:11):
not quite there yet. So you're right, he sucks right now.
I'm not you know, I'm not gonna sit here and
defend him right now. But that this is why I'm
saying he needs to everything, everything in Minnesota needs to come.

Speaker 4 (32:21):
Let's put him to bed.

Speaker 5 (32:22):
Let's put him to bed, and let's talk about him
next year, because I think this year we're done with j. J.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
Mccle well. You said it yourself, Box, you said, you know,
he's trying to write the ship. The problem is he's
on the Titanic right now, that's the problem. And they
just going nowhere and he's taking Justin Jefferson. Justin Jefferson
is literally Leonardo DiCaprio in that movie, hanging onto that
giant piece of wood that seems to have enough room
for two people on it. But she's like, no, I said, preface, Oh, okay, okay,

(32:48):
I said he's on the Titanic. I said on the
right side.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
That's what I said.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
All right, Boggs, what was your moment.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
Of the week, Jamar Chase spitting on Rams and it
being up the week most disgusting.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
Man. I can't believe.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
I cannot believe he held himself. We would have been
in a real fight on the ground punching through that helmet.
If that was me, it would have been way worse.
So I I kind of applaud Ramsey for holding back
a little bit, even though he threw fists.

Speaker 4 (33:18):
So that was a lukie. You ever hear like this
disgusting logie? That was a loogie?

Speaker 2 (33:23):
Yeah, like Ramsey said, it's up. Uh so, yeah, that
was disgusting. Bengal's going to bangle Jamar Chase is officially
a bangle now to me, So.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
All right, Welsh, I hope yours does not have any
bodily fluids in it.

Speaker 5 (33:37):
It doesn't, But I just wanted to point out, especially
in our last stream last week where we had our
big Marvin Harrison conversations fifteen catches for one hundred and
eighty five yards, how about Michael Wilson. Ever seen Marvin
Harrison do anything remotely close.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
To ever see passes?

Speaker 5 (33:58):
I ever seen my Arrian Harrison with Jacoby Brissett. Yes,
we have Michael Wilson, decent route runner, good with catching
the ball and holding onto What a world you can
do when you have a receiver that can be even
just consistent, if not average. I just thought what Michael
Wilson did that was a slam spot. I talked about

(34:18):
it on the Sunday live stream. I know everybody's a
little different. On I was like, he's gonna cook the
forty nine DS receivers. He's absolutely going to cook them.
It's gonna be about will Brissett be comfortable throwing him
the ball, And unlike some other receivers that have been there,
Brissett found a level of comfort that he was willing
to throw ridiculous amounts of footballs towards Michael Wilson and

(34:40):
he caught him cut.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
Fifteen of them certainly were all right. Mine was I
thought Bog. I actually left this for Bogs thinking he
was gonna pick this one. But it was actually from
the Steelers game. It was big boy Darnall Washington just
running over people. That was so fun, Like if you
you know, like I wish they get him the football
little bit more, just because it's fun, Like I don't
care if it's the right call or the wrong call.
It's fun to watch that guy running downhill, just taking

(35:02):
He's making grown men look like little children. He's just
throwing guys what it looks like.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
Let's keep John Smith on the field though, Let's do that.

Speaker 5 (35:08):
You know those mascot versus like pee week like that,
that's what we look like.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
Like the guy who's like man.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
That colts mascot is absolutely savage. I love that guy.
He is the best, all right.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
By the way, I was just looking real quick.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
Kyler Murray has six games in his career where he's
attempted as many passes as Jacoby Brissette completed this week
forty seven completions.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
So yeah, that's uh, that's pretty rough there. All right,
let's play some factor fiction. You're ready to go, boys
and girls, let's go. Let's go to try his question
your factor fiction. Vrabel will mess up Henderson's upside by
playing Stevenson factor of fiction Welsh. Spell Raber's name right,
he's coach of the year. Spell it right next time.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
Try that's good enough. It's like marbles in your mouth.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
This is how Bobby would say it.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
Roblay I would say.

Speaker 4 (36:03):
It's like the farv thing.

Speaker 5 (36:05):
I tend to still think it's like, yes, but it's
not gonna be complete. It's just a it's a medium point.
Travion is just black and then he just absolutely exploded.
I think it's just gonna be a split thing, Like
do you really think they're not gonna give Stevenson ten
to twelve carries a game?

Speaker 4 (36:20):
Like they are and it's gonna be stupid, but he
will have just destroy Will they destroy Trevion?

Speaker 1 (36:26):
No?

Speaker 5 (36:27):
And the upside is still there because like, he makes
big explosive plays. So I guess I'm like talking out
of both sides. I tend to think, like, yes, if
you think Travion's gonna get twenty two carries a game
and four receptions and uh, reminder, he's only gonna have
like twelve snaps, Like, I think you're wrong on that standpoint.

Speaker 4 (36:44):
But he is just super explosive. But I guess my
I will say fact.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
I'm gonna say fiction. I think the cat's out of
the bag, the genies out of the bottle. You can't
go back to a guy who's making that sort. Look,
you're at this point of the season where he's got
fresh legs. Everybody else is tired, he looks explosive, he's
making big plays, he's catching the football. I think at
best he is a three down back that you do
want to give. Oh is it all? I'm sorry? Am
I back now? He said, I never froze.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
This for a second.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
Yeah, all right, yeah, the wind here is a wild
where I am. But just for everybody else, what I
say is this, like, I think you're at a point
here where he's a three down back. But even in
Ohio State, you saw like you gotta take some carries
off of him, and I think that's what you want
to do with m Andre too. You want to give Romandre
five to ten carries. I think that's fine. Ten to fifteen. No, no,

(37:30):
thank you, no, ma'am. I will not have that factor
fiction for you there, Bobs, what do you think about this?

Speaker 2 (37:35):
Well, fact, yes, if he gives, if he splits with Henderson,
that's too much for Stevenson.

Speaker 3 (37:41):
It is so. Yes, he will absolutely screw this up.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
Well, I hate that. I hate that answer, and I
hate cursive and I hate all of you. All right,
let's get to you a factor of fiction here. Chiefs
don't make the playoffs factor fiction, Bogs.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
God, you can start this fiction, they'll make it. It's
it's the Chiefs. They're gonna make it. They're gonna make it,
and they're gonna make it deep run as well. I
don't know if they'll go back to the super Bowl
this year, but they'll probably get.

Speaker 3 (38:04):
To the AFC Championship again. Yes, they're gonna make it.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
Welsh factor fiction Chiefs get in.

Speaker 4 (38:09):
Them pretty clear off of what I brought up. I
think it's fiction. Oh like that they can get it.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 5 (38:13):
I think they can sneak in based off that schedule.
I do not think they're making a deep run. I
think they'll be playing on the road in their first game.
I think they will lose, and I'll think they think
they would make a quick exit. So I could see
them getting in based off of that schedule, but it'll
be short.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
It's uh. I agree. It's exactly what happened to the Eagles,
right a couple years ago. They snuck in the playoffs.
They were on the road and they lost where Tampa. Like,
that's that's it, this is good exactly. They're they're literally
the roadmap is in front of you, everybody. That's that's
what it's all about. Let's see another factor of fiction here. Uh,
factor fiction, Chase is not a top ten wide receiver
rest of season factor fiction, Welsh fiction.

Speaker 4 (38:46):
I think he still is Joe Flacco, Joe Burrow, Joey three.

Speaker 5 (38:51):
Yeah, it doesn't matter. Yeah, but the meme, it doesn't
really matter. Like they're gonna slaying the ball. I was
a bad outing. Steelers just kind of locked him down.
He's spitting on everybody that the thing that might keep
him out rest of season is he's going to get suspended.

Speaker 4 (39:03):
For a game.

Speaker 5 (39:03):
So like that might be the pseudo thing from I
think from a talent perspective, though, No, it doesn't matter
that whichever Joe is behind, unless it's you, piece of pia,
he's gonna get fifteen turns. You actually would probably target.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
Throw more footballs than Joe Burrow, probably in the last
couple of weeks, just saying every.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
Week, I don't know, Maybe I'm going to say I'm sure,
I'm sure that football is of the same quality.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
I'm sure it is. I will be also, i will
be throwing footballs in practice at the meadow Lands. I'll
be throwing more balls than justin fields this week potentially
just say I'll be on that field. Hopefully nobody gets
hurt on that field.

Speaker 4 (39:34):
Like I'm sure he won't throw any in practice. I'm sure.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
I'm sure if Joe blows out his knee life, I
will feel bad, but it might be the funniest ever happened.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
Oh, I believe me. I will be walking everywhere. I
will be walking like this, like on eggshells there, like
you know what, I'd be walking like Elmer fudd Elman
used to walk like this. Factor fiction. Jordan Love is
a hidden envy, he candidate. I think this is fiction, Bogs.
How about you fiction? Yeah, Welsh fiction on this one.

Speaker 4 (40:05):
Not that good Lord of the rings.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
All right, there you go. All right, let's do a
little three to one one. Take a look at the
board here. Bogman is the leader at ten. He got
two last week a Chan and Allen. I got one
with the Bijon and Welsh got zero. No flato, no doubt,
no Chase. You both had Chase and Chase didn't get there.
So this week I'm going against the New York Giants
with the Lions at home. Give me Jared Goff for

(40:29):
the three hundred yard passer. I'm on Ros Saint Brown
for the one hundred yard receiver. Give me Derek Henry
against the New York Jets. That's what I'm saying. For
my one hundred yard rusher, Welsh, who's your three one
one for Week twelve.

Speaker 5 (40:39):
I gotta make sure I'm doing different players than you guys.
Just I was gonna pick a couple of the ones.

Speaker 4 (40:45):
You had I have.

Speaker 5 (40:47):
I'm I'm on my heels here, like I gotta have
two big weeks back.

Speaker 3 (40:52):
To Corner's gonna become a monster.

Speaker 5 (40:54):
Now I'm gonna go with Drake May, who I believe
leads the league in passing yard. So I'm gonna go
Drake May versus the Cincinnati Bengals. He is a you know,
MVP candidate. Bengals defense. You know they're trying to do
their things, but Drake May is gonna come into town
and ruin that. Give me Saquon Barkley versus the Dallas Cowboys.
They were running with Barkley a whole bunch are gonna

(41:15):
have a lot more success against Dallas Cowboys. Let's get
over one hundred. They're playing out big. And how about
tetroh and McMillan versus my forty nine ers, And you
know what you guys are like, Oh, Brayce Shung, pray
Young bybe Brayce Shung will have another big week. Michael
Wilson fifteen for one to eighty five. Tetoa got a
bunch of targets, are going to keep up that. Niners
aren't stopping anybody, so he's going over one hundred. Let's
see if we can sweep it.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
Yeah, Niners, boy, those injuries are really caught up, all.

Speaker 3 (41:37):
Right, Marice Young Welsh tell me real quick again one
more time.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
For me.

Speaker 3 (41:46):
I'm gonna go.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
Matthew Stafford versus Tampa Bay. I you know they stopped
the run really well. They kept James Cook bottled up.
I think it's going to force the Rams to pass.
So I think Stafford gets to three hundred.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
There.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
Jamiir Gibbs against the Giants. I think he could do
that on like, you know, four explosive plays. The Giants
have not tackled very well this year. Not as bad
as I thought, twenty first tackle grade, but still a
lot of mistackles. And then Jay is Inn at Tennessee.
Tennessee just has no secondary to speak up right now,
so give me j s n I feel good about
this week, gentlemen, I like this now, no, none of us.

(42:19):
Now that I'm in first, I'm confident.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
So let's go. One of us have had a perfect week.

Speaker 4 (42:23):
I will say this never in the history of this game.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
It's Joe Flacco might be the same age as me.
It's very, very possible. At this point.

Speaker 3 (42:30):
You're large way older.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
Our Joe is way older. But I feel like I'm happier.
Joe Flacco looks miserable all the time. Like but even
if things are going well, he always looks miserable. That's
always his demos. Rest similar face, Yeah you do, yeah,
br br.

Speaker 4 (42:47):
I'm having a great time right now.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
Face. Look like if we like a look at that
Brough face right now.

Speaker 4 (42:51):
Yeah, that's a guy that's having a great time.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
Any of that.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
It's like, man, that guy's job must really suck. What
does he uh sit on his ass and talk about
sports all day?

Speaker 4 (43:03):
Can you believe? Can you believe? We tweeted that out
as a.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
Sell for the show you my favor that this is
the face that you make as apparent to when you
come home and you're like, I asked you to bring
in the recycling. I asked you to do one thing
to your kids, right, could you please bring And you're
driving home and in the middle of the block, like
halfway down the block, you see it's a windy day
and the recycling is blowing down the street and you
see that bucket and you're like, I asked you to
do one thing right.

Speaker 5 (43:25):
Now, Podcasters, this is a visual medium on this, but
it's just like, can you imagine we're like, hey, let's
sell this show to people and then bam.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
Right there, all right, let's do one more factor fiction
is a fun Herbert and QJ are cooked rest of
season from Peb Welsh? What do you think? Is it
over or is it just the offensive line is just
not healthy? Right now?

Speaker 4 (43:44):
Boy didn't look.

Speaker 5 (43:45):
Good in this game. Like if you look at you're like,
how can we be so bad? I'm gonna say Herbert's
not cooked. Qj's gonna have a game or two. But
the problem is is he is no longer consistent. Lad
is back to, you know, being their bigger play guy.
Keenan Allen was clearly the safety net Gadsden takes away
from QJ. I saw like one I probably watched like

(44:08):
sixty percent of that game. They had that one play if.

Speaker 4 (44:10):
You saw it.

Speaker 5 (44:11):
It was like four wide receivers up top, one on
the left, and they were trying to single out QJ.
And it was like that was it. That was all
that they tried to run for him. Gadsden kills him.
I think QJ is just as a general sense, is
kind of cooked outside of a game or two. I
just don't tend to think that Herbert's done. They're one
of the highest passing volume teams in the NFL. They
got great pass catchers. They completely fell apart with themselves,

(44:32):
and they went up against just kind of a buzz
saw in the Jags. And how they turned they forced turnovers.
So I think Herbert will be okay. I think QJ
is cooked.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
Boggs. I think it's all about the health of the
offensive line. The Chargers' future is based on that if
all can come back healthy sooner than later. But that's
tough right now. They definitely lie they're getting at the
right time this week, that's for sure.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
I mean, and I think they may have to use more,
you know, heavy blocking tight ends, which is gonna I mean,
I don't think it'll affect Gadsden that much, but it
affects all those slot guys, lad and you know Gaston
is basically a slot wide receiver and QJ so Keenan
Allen and so I just think it, like well said,
it's gonna be inconsistent on who is the big performer

(45:12):
week to week. So yeah, I think Youj's definitely done.
Herbert fifty fifty flip a point.

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(45:40):
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