Is Sincere McCormick a Must-Start Player? | Week 15 Lineup Advice: Starts, Sleepers, Sits, Player Debates, and TD Calls! (Ep. 1487) - FantasyPros - Fantasy Football Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello everybody. Welcome into the Fantasy Pros Football Podcast. I'm
Ryan Wormley, joined on this Thursday morning ahead of Week
fifteen by Andrew Rickson and Pat Fitz Morris Bella's it
is the Fantasy playoffs for most teams. At least we
are here. We have made it. We were talking a
little bit on Tuesday ericson kind of the number of
teams that we are even still alive for fits, how

(00:21):
did you do this year in terms of making the playoffs?

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Pretty good in Redraft, much better than in Dynasty. So yeah,
I've got a number of teams still alive. I don't
know if I'm the prohibitive favorite in any of those,
but I'm also not dead money in any of them either,
So it's gonna be fun. And you know, I know
in a couple of my home leagues, I am playing

(00:44):
the same very good friend in two of them back
to back. So I was just telling him that, you know,
we might not be friends after this week, depending on
how things shake out. But yeah, man, this is what
we play for. We are here, and I'm excited about it.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
I think I am the same. We didn't talk about
the distinction between Dynasty and redraft. I think I have
performed better in redraft this year, all the teams that
I have a bye, all the teams that like, the
the higher percentage teams that I made the playoffs. It
was it was a redraft, not dynasty. And I don't
know what to attribute that to.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
Yeah, why did it? Why do you think it was?
What did you get right this year with your redraft teams?

Speaker 1 (01:27):
I didn't get right a lot of the top We
were actually just talking a bit about how ericson Hejumar.
Chase is number one player in the rankings this year,
and so I kind of pulled up my rankings to
remind myself where my draft rankings look like, and they
looked really bad.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
I was.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
I was talking into Brest Hall number one, which hasn't
worked out. I had chased down at seven, which I
don't even remember putting them there. But I really obviously
don't feel good about that one. I think we're at.
What I did very well on this year in redraft
is a lot of those mid round picks and the
later round picks. I think early I didn't really distinguish myself,
but I hate on a lot of these like I
had Chase Brown a lot of places that has been

(02:01):
super helpful. The one early pick I did very well
on is I got Derrick Henry literally everywhere I was
able to get him in the second round. He was
just my pick of choice, which obviously was very helpful
as well. Are there any you know players that stand
out for you, fits that did a good job. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
I mean, looking back on it, it's funny because I
went sort of with a hero RB approach, and in
a couple instances, the hero RB was Isaiah Piccheco, which
was the wrong hero to pick as injury luck would
have it. And you know, I was pretty robust with
wide receivers, and like it was a minefield as far
as wide receiver injury. So like I had Chris Olavea

(02:36):
and a lot of teams obviously that didn't work out
with injuries. Mike Evans was a frequently drafted guy. He
missed a lot of playing time. Maybe the reason why
I'm still punching with a lot of teams. For the
first time in like a decade, I got tight end right,
Like I was drafting either George Kittle or Brock Bauers
this year. Those were my two tight end targets. So
other than like one Mark Andrews team. Those were my

(02:59):
tight end on pretty much every redraft team, and you
know that one wound up being the right code at
tight end.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
Yeah, I really wanted to make sure I was getting
one of those top seven tight ends on draft Day.
And as long as I was doing that and that
one of those seven wasn't Kyle Pitts or I guess
Sam la Porta, who I never got, then then that
was largely working. I like McBride was the one for
me where I got a lot, and even if he's
not getting touchdowns, obviously that's been a successful one. What
about you, ericson who's kind of carried your teams this year?

Speaker 3 (03:29):
Well, the team that I care about the most they
could talk about on one of these earlier shows is
Pooka Nakua. It's funny because I remember reading the ECR
article that said that Poopenkaku was going to be like
the biggest bus this year, and after Week one you're.

Speaker 4 (03:40):
Like, sick, we were right, like he was horrible.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
But and it's funny because a lot of what we
remember is all about the anchor biases from the beginning
of the season, right it's the guys that were bad
to start again.

Speaker 4 (03:49):
Mark Andrews.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
People still think he's a bust, but even though he's
been all like a touchdown streak, he's actually kind of
been back to where we kind of expected him to be.
Even though when we think back at Andrew's like, oh,
huge bus Mark Andrews this season, but when you look
at the final stats, you're like, oh, actually, like well,
because he finally started catching touchdowns, It's like, oh, he
actually did have a recently good year for the Titan position.
I think kind of the similar thing with pokin Akua.

(04:10):
I mean, dude to points per game. I don't know
where he is, but he's got to be in the
top five, top three. I know that this week he's
like inside the top three wide receivers because and that
guy's healthy, Like he is just unstoppable. So something to
kind of keep in mind as we when we kind
of do the season review reflections after the postseason ends, Like, yes,
it's important how you start and who you draft, but

(04:31):
ultimately how you win is how you finish. So I
think that's something really important to look on and I
know that again, I feel like the show was very
Chase Brown pro like from fits to myself, like I
love to Chase Brown, and I think we got a
lot of people have him because of us. So I
think that was one of our definitely one of our
biggest hits of this season. Definitely a player that I'm
leaning on a lot in a couple of places.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Yeah, to that point, Like I I think Rashie Rice
in a lot of places that was a correct draft decision.
And then just doesn't Chris right.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
Like I was like, oh, Chris Gonlin like gonna be
a smash, and he was a smash until he got hurt.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
It's funny. I'm looking, I'm looking now at like what
I had in the top twelve, and it's like, cause
I said, I didn't really do well with the early
round picks, I'm not sure how I could have. You know,
Breese Hall obviously disappointing, Ceedee Lamb quarterback got her b.
Jon Robinson good, you know, not the kind of next
level I expected, but good. Christian McCaffery, we know what
happened there. Justin Jefferson just had this six week stretch
of slumping. Tyreek Hill obviously all the two of stuff

(05:26):
has hurt him. Chase Good, I'm ros Saint Brown good,
Jonathan Taylor disappointing, Garrett Wilson disappointing. AJ Brown Apparently he
and Jalen Hurts hate each other now. I mean like
there were there were a lot of minefields to dodge
in the first round of drafts this year.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
Yeah, we I mean, we obsessed so much over the
first round of drafts, like in August and July. But
really it's what you do after. I mean, like the
one the one league this year where I drafted Saquon Barkley,
I managed to miss the playoffs. I have a partner
in that league. Like every everything else we did in
our draft, like just blew up in our faces, rolling

(06:00):
with Caleb Williams as our starting quarterback right out of
the gate. So yeah, I mean, it's just it's funny
how that happens, and we do obsess a lot over
the first round, but really it's everything you do after
that matters so much more.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
I was painfully low on both Chase and Saquon, and
that's gonna really really come back to bite me, I expect.
All Right, this is our Thursday start Sitch Show. I'll
just a quick reminder for everybody as we get into
the Fantasy playoffs. We are still doing rankings and everything
all season long up till the end, so all of
our weekly consensus rankings and tiers can be found at

(06:37):
fantasypros dot com slash rankings. All right, guys, let's dive
into the waiver wire ads. Guys that we picked up
earlier in the week, are we starting or sitting them
in Week fifteen? Fits? I'll start with you. Sincere McCormick,
are we starting him in Week fifteen?

Speaker 2 (06:51):
Startable? I've got him just outside running back two range
at running back twenty eight doesn't have the easiest matchup.
The falc have a lot of the seventh fewest Fantasy
points to running backs, but I do love McCormick's matchup
if you get by week fifteen. In Week sixteen and seventeen,
he gets the Jaguars and the Saints, so he could

(07:11):
be a nice engine propelling you to fantasy championships if
you get by this week. I don't know. I'm I'm
intrigued by this late season audition he's getting with the Raiders,
who have not really given us a lot of running
back value this season, and I am vowing never again
to be too low on a smaller, slower running back

(07:35):
who didn't time well in the forty yard dash. And
McCormick is another one of these guys. I faded Kyron Williams,
I faded Bucky Irving. I'm not going to fade sincere McCormick,
or at least try not to. So yeah, I can't
wait to see what he's going to do, but I'm
not all that excited about starting him this week.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
He's at an ECR for half GPR scoring RB twenty seven, Erickson,
Is that too high, too lower? Just right for McCormick.

Speaker 4 (08:02):
I think that's just right right. I have him as
RB twenty eight.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
I think you got to keep in mind though, with
running backs week, I think you're only look at McCormick
as like a flex play unless you're just like totally
down bad at the running back, just because we have
all sixteen team or all thirty two teams playing this week,
and all the running backs are healthy, right, So I
really think McCormick and a lot of these guys you're
gonna mention here as waiver wire ads are all flex plays, right,
So I think it's McCormick first, this fringy receiver do

(08:27):
I like this receiver's upside a little bit more this week?

Speaker 4 (08:29):
Or do I like McCormick.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
Hey, I think we can lock in fifteen sixteen seventeen
carries because he's getting the coach speak from Antonio Pierce.
We saw this treatment last year with Zamir White, and
I think the matchup against the Falcons is pretty decent
and they all playing at home. So the one caveat
is there's risk with McCormick. Where doesn't Riticul just tank
this entire offense. It doesn't matter they're playing the Falcons, right,
So that's the risk that you have to consider. I

(08:51):
think that he's probably a floor pledge just because hey,
I feel like he's gonna get a seed a moount touches.
He's been efficient this year five point five yards per carry,
and he's gotten done. Age's tougher defens the Falcons, like
the Chiefs, like the Denver Broncos. He's been efficienting against
those and obviously showed out against Tampa Bay last week.
So I think he's a flex play at best, But
don't jam him in over any guys that you're usually
starting a week in a week out.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
Ericson, I'll stick with you. How about Tank Biggsby as
one of these waiver wire pickups. He had eighteen carries
fifty five yards and a touchdown in the win against
the Titans. You know, he also had one catch for
seven yards. Is Bigsby somebody that I mean? I know,
the whole backfield has been a total headache this season
in Jacksonville. Is he somebody that you know a lot
of people were picking them up this week? You're willing
to start here in the first round of the Fantasy playoffs.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
Probably my confidence level with his backfield is not super high,
right because, yes, last week it was Bigsby because it
was a really close game. He was going back and forth,
so they were able to kind of feed him. But
what happens against the Jets. They're playing at home, they're underdogs.
I kind of like the Jaguars to cover this game.
I think it's gonna be closer than I think, So
maybe I should be a little bit more optimistic about Bigsby.
I think Bigsby has a pretty high ceiling because if

(09:57):
he gets rolling, we've seen teams run over the New
York Jets run defense at times to see We've also
seen teams struggle against the New York Jets running game.
Like the Miami Dolphins last week, they weren't able to
really run the ball against the New York Jets. So yeah,
it kind of goes back to he's probably flex play
at best, and it's really him between some of these
other receivers where you're kind of weighing the upside versus
the downside case because there's a chance that he just

(10:18):
gets out snap by Etn.

Speaker 4 (10:20):
You know, if Mac Jones in this offense just implodes.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
So there's a lot of risk with some of these
fringier running backs and I kind of just want to
less rest on. Look, I'm gonna start running backs and
starting all year long. I'm not going to risk my
fantasy playoffs on Tank Bigsby when he may not even
lead his team in touches when it's all sudden done
playing for Jacksonville's offense. Like, I don't really think you
need to play a Jaguars running back this week to
win your fantasy football playoffs. So that's kind of how

(10:44):
I'm viewing the situation. So I have him right behind
McCormick RB thirty.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
Fits, he's RB twenty nine in ECR. What do you
think about that.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Yeah, I mean I've got him at RB thirty two,
and I might be too low on him, Like I
I think there's no denying that he is a better
peer runner Travis Etn. And I think last I checked,
Bigsby was either among the leaders or the leader in
yards per contact yards after contact per carry. Like he's
he's good. But Ericson framed it perfectly as far as

(11:15):
how the game script could derail Bigsby potentially, like if
the Jags fall into a hole, it is a Travis
Etn game script. If the Jags are competitive against the Jets,
and you know they should be, the Jets are not
that great. The effort level has been pretty inconsistent if
they're in a competitive game against the Jets, like Bigsby

(11:37):
might have smash potential, but it is a wide range
of outcomes for him and not like he's just not
a comfortable start in Week fifteen.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
When we're running back Waiver wire at here Isaiah Davis
for the Jets. This is, of course, if Breese Haall
is out or are they playing tool on fantasypros dot
Com has Breese hal At about a thirty eight percent
chance to play as of right now. We haven't seen
practice sports for Thursday or anything yet, so subjects to change,
but you know, leaning towards not playing based on that tool. Obviously.
You know, everybody was really excited about Braylon Allen with

(12:09):
brisaw out, but he and Isaiah Davis essentially split this backfield.
Allen had eleven carries for forty three yards. Davis had
ten carries for forty yards and a touchdown. Davis had
three catches for twenty seven yards. Braylon Allen four catches
for thirty eight yards, very similar stat lines. Davis, of
course got the touchdown, and he was the player that
was available because Allen was largely already rostered. So fits
Isaiah Davis, are you interested in starning him? If brisall

(12:31):
is out of a yat.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
So this game with the running backs, it is the
Spider Man meme, but they're four Spider Man. It's Braylan
Allen pointing a tank big spy and Isaiah Davis pointing
at Travis etn Like. It kind of depends on the
game script. We've seen Davis show us pass catching chops
the last couple of weeks and like good matchup with
the Jaguars. They have allowed the second most fantasy points

(12:55):
to running backs, and I think they've allowed the second
most receiving yards to running back, So potentially a good
spot for Isaiah Davis if Breece Hall is out. So
I've got him ranked running back thirty one on the
assumption that Breesce doesn't play.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
Ericson what do you think about Isaiah Davis for really
this backfield in general?

Speaker 3 (13:13):
Yeah, I mean I think, I mean I would probably
rank the other two running backs we've talked about already
ahead of a rail or excuse me, of Isaiah Davis,
because I just feel better about those workloads in particular,
and I feel like the Jaguars are kind of a
live here in the spot.

Speaker 4 (13:26):
I think they will be a closer game.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
So I do prefer Bigsdi just because we've got a
scene a bigger sample size with him versus some of
these other Jets running backs, because it won't be a
fifty to fifty committee if the Jaguars are establishing the
run here against the Jets, and we've seen tank Bagsby
obviously have big games when he's gotten a lot of carries,
whereas look, if Davis doesn't score a touchdowns, then we're
just starting railing now and then like nothing changed, right
because he said you said the usage was basically fifty

(13:49):
to fifty, Braylon Awen still started the game. So I
usually you can start running backs even in time shares
in positive matchups. But going back to the fact that
you have every other running back that's healthy this week,
you have all thirty two teams, So there's a reason
why these guys are outside the top, are in that
thirty range because we don't need to push them up
the rankings this week because we have everyone access to everybody.

(14:12):
The only running back that I'm looking at that's kind
of been basically been a starter every single week that
I might push out for one of these players we're
talking about would be someone like Najie Harris because he's
got a brutal matchup against the Eagles. I don't like that,
and he also splits carries with Jalen Warren. So that's
kind of where I'm looking at potential starters to sit
for some of these waiver wire guys. But besides that,
I really think it's your starting the same guys you've

(14:34):
been starting week in and week out, who have been
the starters in their prospective backfield, So that's kind of
in the situation. Again, it's a flex play for me,
but it's a fifty fifty committe. If he doesn't score,
then Allen's probably going to do score and thread.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
This is a real stretch in the rankings of a headache.
I mean, from RB twenty seven to RB thirty two
is Sincere McCormick, Braylan, Allen, Tank Bigsby, Jalen Warren, Isaiah Davis, Travis,
etn And so it's basically all the back as we
talked about plus Jalen Warren in there. Just a very
difficult stretch to make any kind of decision. I would say,

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Speaker 1 (16:25):
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Speaker 2 (16:31):
An old man. Let me cap up for another old man,
Adam Thelen, who has had twenty one targets over his
last two games. He's caught seventeen of them for two
hundred and one yards in a touchdown. Adam Thelen is
just Bryce Young's favorite security blanket, and he was last
year too when he had one hundred and three catches.
Feeling is looking healthy and frisky. I think thelin is

(16:53):
in for another good game against the Dallas Cowboys.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
Erickson, what do you think about Feeling.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
I mean, he showed out last week in a really
tough matchup against the Philadelphia Eagles, but he's clearly like
the established alpha in the Carolina Panthers passing game. He
has a better matchup this week going against Dallas, playing
at home, and we're kind of just seeing what we
saw at the beginning of last year when Adam Field
was basically a fringe fantasy wide receiver one again, it
was predictable that the wheels were going to fall off eventually,
But because he missed so much time to start the year,

(17:21):
he's fresh right, so I expect him to continue to
be productive here. And it seems so bizarre to think, Hey,
Fantasy football championships are here, and you're kind of comfortably
starting Adam Feelin, especially because Bryce dugg is playing so
much better in a full PPR setting. Yeah, and I
think that Bryce Young two is also overdue for some
touchdown regression. I've something I've noticed watching him over the

(17:43):
last couple of weeks is they're throwing the ball a
ton in the red zone, but it just hasn't really
converted into touchdowns quite. He's top five in terms of
red zone pass attempts I believe, only has three passing touchdowns.
If you look at everyone else inside the top five
in terms of red zone passing attempts for the last
four weeks, all those other quarters around eight or more touchdowns.
So some positive touchdown regression in a game where the

(18:04):
Panthers are favored, as we talked about earlier this week,
for the first time ever in the Bryce Young era,
we're expecting good things from the Panthers for the first
time ever. So yes, thelan is a very strong start
this week.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
He's wide receiver thirty three in ECR for the record.
Ericson who's your flag plant this week?

Speaker 3 (18:20):
H we don't know what's going on with AJB wide
receiver one season, So I'm pivoting to betj wide receiver
one season.

Speaker 4 (18:26):
Brian Thomas Junior.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
Look, this guy has been super productive even with Mac
Jones as his quarterback. Last three games, twenty nine percent
target share, forty four percent air yards share, averaging over
eighty one receiving yards per game. I don't really care
whether Sauce Gardner plays in this matchup against the Jets.
He's been underwhelming this year. He's still a little bit
banged up. And Brian Thomas Junior, you look at I
think you can take advantage of the Jets. What have

(18:49):
they been weakest against this year is deep passes fifth
most deepazzes faced this season. Last week, Brian Thomas Junior
was the only receiver on the Jaguars that saw more
than fifteen air yards. Whenever Mac Jones decides to throw
the ball a little bit downfield, it's going to Brian
Thomas Junior. So Mac Jones is mostly a dump off quarterback.
That's kind of what he's been with Jacksonville so far

(19:11):
the season. But the time when he has time to throw,
it's gonna be to Brian Thomas Junior. And he's made
so many plays all year long, despite the up and
down quarterback play. I think he can have a big
game here against the New York Jets.

Speaker 4 (19:21):
Again.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
If the Jaguars come away with an upset, it's gonna
because Tank Biggs be and Brian Thomas Junior, probably the
two best offensive players that Jacksonville's had all season long,
both step up and have big games. And I'm really
calm that Brian Thomas Junior is going to continue that.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
It's where do you rank Thomas this year or this week?

Speaker 2 (19:36):
I think I have got him at wide receiver twenty five.
I'm just going to check on that real quickly, but
let's see, yes, wide receiver twenty five. And Ericson said
it pretty well like mac Jones has been unable to
kneecap the fantasy value of Brian Thomas Junior, which speaks

(19:57):
to the talent level of Brian Thomas Junior and what
a good player he is. So yeah, I feel pretty
good about playing him this week.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
Yeah, Top, where do you think I'm just this is
kind of looking ahead, obviously not for this week, but Ericson,
where do you think you're gonna be ranking Thomas for
next year's drafts.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
Probably ahead of Marvin Harrison Junior. I think I can
probably feel pretty good about that. Probably, man, where would
I let me see? Like doing get off the cuff
is so hard because I'm going to.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
Throw, I'm putting you on the spot. But I think
he's a really interesting player to think about this conversation
for it.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
I think, I mean top twenty four is that is
that too light? Not aggressive enough? Again, it's it's just
like simply put rookie receiver breaks out year one, you
gotta be draft that guy next year, right, Like that's
the simple process that works. More often not the guy
hits his rookie year as a rookie, especially at the
wide receiver position, you want exposure to him the following season.
So top twenty four I think should be a lock.

(20:53):
I may not be high enough with that particular ranking
because I haven't gone through all this all the players.
I'm sure that I'm forgetting somebody to put into that
top twenty forward, but definitely someone that I've been very
pleased with and had the quarterback play had anything gone
a little bit more right in Jacksonville, he's probably having
an even better season. I mean, his yards perrout run
is off the charts, and the fact that he's been
able to do it with a dysfunctional offense overall. Trevor

(21:14):
Lawrence banged up all season long. Christian Kirkskin not going
to be part of this offense moving forward. I mean
he's the alpha moving forward. So yeah, top twenty four
and probably someone that I'm probably go into rank. I'm
gona convince myself to probab rank higher when I actually
do my twenty twenty five rankings.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
Not having sat down and written out players' names and
seeing who actually needs to be ahead of him. Yet,
my initial thought when I asked the question was kind
of back end of the top twenty, so a little
higher than top twenty four was my first thought. It'll
depend on how things go of this offseason in Jacksonville
course fits. What do you think about that question? Where's
your kind of your gut reaction? Early thoughts on ranking
Thomas next year.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
Yeah, mid range wide receiver two in that sort of
wide receiver sixteen to wide receiver twenty one range, and
like I might have him ranked ahead of Malik Neighbors
two next year. Like it hasn't really happened for Malik
Neighbors since he had the concussion. And I know the
quarterback situation has been gross, but is there a quarterback

(22:10):
who's going to come in and dramatically upgrade the situation
for the pass catchers on the Giants. I don't like
this rookie quarterback class at all, Like none of these
guys are saviors. And you know, maybe you bring in
Sam Darnold and I feel better about Malik Neighbors, but
otherwise I may very well. He Berni and Thomas rank

(22:30):
the highest of the rookies from the class of twenty
twenty four.

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one eight three three nine four nine five zero four zero.
All right, guys, just diving to the player debates here,
starting off with a couple of names that most people
are starting, but just in case you had to put
them against each other, we go Dowdell or Aaron Jones
ericson what do you think about that one?

Speaker 3 (24:16):
I think, yeah, both guys need to be in your lineup.
I prefer Aaron Jones just because I prefer the infrastructure
around the Minnesota Vikings playing at home against the Chicago Bears.
Their run defense has been absolutely atrocious, so where dowd
again has also a really great matchup. He's Aills playing
on the road. And if I'm weighing, hey, which offense
is just likely to potentially bottom out, it would be
Dallas on a short week playing on the East Coast

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versus the Vikings playing at home. Aaron Jones has been healthy,
So yeah, I'm just gonna take Aaron Jones.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
I just to kind of set the stage. I totally
agree with you that these are an example of two
names that you want to be starting. I do think
when we've talked about how there really haven't been many,
you know, knock on wood injuries to the running back
position this year, and now there's no more buys. You've
finally got through the ridiculous six weeks by six team
buy and we fourteen. So there are now I think

(25:05):
gonna be tough decisions with names that you want to
be starting multiple guys at a position like running back,
especially if you have somebody like Rico Dabell that you
probably drafted, you know, several rounds later in your drafts,
and he's now looking like a really startable guy. So
that's all I wanted to include a name like this
just for the record. I obviously recognize that these are
both names that in a vacuum, you know, we're ranking
highly and want to be starting. What do you think

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fits Jones are doubt all this week?

Speaker 2 (25:28):
I like Rico considerably more. Actually, he's had two straight
hundred yard rushing games. He's had no fewer than eighteen
carries in any of his last three games. He's also
had seven receptions in his last three games. The Cowboys
have just they are basing their offense on Rico now
like they have fully committed to him. And you know,

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Rico gets this great matchup against the Panthers, who ranked
dead last in DVOA against the run and have given
up more fantasy points, rushing yards, and rushing touchdowns to
running backs than any other team. It's a good matchup
for Aaron Jones two. The Bears run defense ranks thirtieth
and DVOA. But last week was the first time in

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a month that Aaron Jones hasn't fumbled in a game,
and we saw him, like we saw the fumbling issues
crop up with the Cardinals two weeks ago, where he
fumbled twice and wound up with five carries in that game. Like,
that's my concern that Aaron Jones coughs up another fumble
and gets thrown into fumble jail and we don't see

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him get double digit carries like that, that's the risk
with him. He could absolutely smash, but so could Rico.
And I'm not worried about Rico getting benched for fumbling problems.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
Where do you actually have these guys' ranks.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
Fits eleventh for Rico, twentieth for Aaron Jones, But like
that sounds like a big gap. But the like there's
a big tier in RB two of guys who don't,
I don't see much of a difference between.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
Where do you have them ranked? Erekson, But by the way,
a cr Rico is RB sixteen, Aaron Jones RB eighteen.

Speaker 3 (27:06):
I have Aaron Jones at RB fourteen and I have
Rico at RB seventeen. And I mean we also seen
Aaron Jones play the Bears already this season on the road.
He had twenty five touches for over one hundred and
thirty yards in a touchdown. So like, I just I
just don't want to overthink it with like Aaron Jones,
Like he's playing such a bad Bears defense at home
and the Vikings are going to score what they gotta

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score thirty points, and I just I think that he's
just safer.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
So let's look at another pair of running backs here, fits,
I'll start with you this one. Rimandre Stevenson or Naji Harris.
Do you like better this week?

Speaker 2 (27:39):
So I can already tell I like Nase more than
ericson Dawes, I would start Nause here. I've got them
ranked back to back, but I've got Nase RB twenty
four and Stevenson RB twenty five. Look I know it's
not an easy matchup for naj against the Eagles, but
the Steelers are going to run the ball. They're going
to keep running the ball. That's just how they roll,
and especially with George Pickens out, they really have no

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choice but to run the offense through the running backs.
And that's probably going to mean a few receptions for
him too. I know he shares work, but yet Nase
still gets like at least sixteen carries a game week
in and week out. So you know, with this collectively
poor group of pass catchers for the Steelers without George Pickens,

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and as good as the Eagles pass defenses, I have
no doubt about the volume here with Nause and I'm
just going to follow the volume Stevenson over his last
seven games, he's averaging three point one yards per carry.
He's had fewer than twenty rushing yards in three of
those seven games. The decent games he's had during that
stretch where it was just like seventy three or seventy

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four yards all against really bad run defenses, the Bears
in Week ten, the Rams in Week eleven, the Colts
in Week fourteen, and Romondre's gone four straight games without
a touchdown. So I'm just not feeling good about the
trajectory Remandre is on, whereas I know at least is
going to get a ton of work this week.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
What do you think Ericson? He did kind of allude
to nausee maybe being a sit given the matchup this week?
Is that how you feel in this particular head to.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
D Yeah, I mean I don't think it's crazy to
think that the Patriots could score more points than the
Steelers this week?

Speaker 4 (29:16):
Is that?

Speaker 3 (29:16):
I mean Vegas has it that way. Patriots have a
higher implied team total than the Steelers do because the
Steelers are playing in a tougher matchup against Pittsburgh Sears.
We just saw the Cardinals get destroyed by Zach Sharbinett
like and we've seen Remandre. Yes, he's one of the
more boomery bust types of running backs. Have talked about how,
especially in the forecast, how he's kind of like the
Amari Cooper of running backs where he has games or

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he just totally does nothing like outside the top forty
and tanks you. But he also has games where he
finishes the top ten running back overall. Because when he
does end up scoring those touchdowns which have eluded him
the last couple of weeks. Well, he smashes I mean
four of his or three of his last four games,
he has eighteen or more carries, So I think that

(29:57):
I just want to I just saw what Zach Sharbay
did to this Cardinals defense. You'll the Patriots notice that
too and think, hey, let's feed Ramandre. I think he
has a higher ceiling than Naji Harris does in a
game where do we I mean the higher total game
is Cardinals Patriots, not Eagles and Steelers. So if we're
chasing points here, who has more touchdown upside? Just from
a game environment perspective, I think it is Remonded And
I also do think it's close. Like I have these

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guys ranked back to back, but if I had to
put one in, I'm going to take the guy that
I think is always the best running back on his
own team, which is Ramondre Stevenson, Whereas Jalen Warren is
a lot better over the last couple weeks since he's
been healthy. So if the Steelers are playing from behind,
is it nausey as much in the game or is
it more Jalen Warren? So that would be my concern
and potential pushback on Nase's seeing this insane workload, whereas

(30:38):
I still like to match up little bit more for
Remandre and I still expect him to be featured more
than Antonio.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
Gibson got a couple of wide receiver debates here. How
about fits Courtland Sutton or Garrett Wilson, Which is not
a debate I expected to ask in August if you
told me I would be putting these two against each other.
But their ranks pretty closely together, and it feels like
a tough one. So Sutton or Garrett Wilson.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
Yeah, I would not have guessed in August that I
would be answering Courtland Sutton here over Garrett Wilson. But
here we are, with Courtland Sutton the wide receiver five
and a half point PPR Fantasy points per game since
Week eight, sixteen and a half half point PPR fantasy
points per game since then. Over that six game stretch,
he's averaging seven catches ninety four point eight yards per game.

(31:24):
Sutton's just been fantastic over the last month and a half,
and he is the undisputed alpha receiver for the Broncos,
whereas the Jets kind of have co alphas with Garrett
Wilson and DeVante Adams. I'm not gonna bad mouth Garrett
Wilson at all. I think he's terrific, but I just
don't find the Jets offense especially trustworthy right now.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
What do you think about this?

Speaker 3 (31:45):
On ericson, Yeah, it's got to be Courtland Sutton just
because he's the number one, right, It's him and then
a bunch of Jabroni's for the Denver Broncos, Whereas the Jets,
like Fits alluded to, they have co alphas. So if
Wilson doesn't score the touchdown and it's Gavante Adams scores touchdown,
then you're left holding the bag being made. Another six
or sixty game for Garrett Wilson on twelve targets, great,

(32:06):
feel don't feel great about that, whereas slattin, I mean
if you just look at his I mean we usually
don't recommend just like looking at the box score. But
ever since that game against the Saints where he had
the zero targets, dude has just been on an absolute
tear and he's playing the Colts. The Colts give up
four hundred yards offense to the Patriots, so I'm expecting
that this Bronco's office is going to be very productive,
and you know that's going to feature Courtland Sutton because

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that's the again besides bow Nicks, Like, who else are
you trusting from Denver to do anything like individually? Because
we have no idea what this backfield's going to look like,
as we'll get into a little bit later.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
Yeah, we've got a question on the backfield coming up.
Where do you have these guys or is it close
or do you have them actually a sizeable gap between
Sutton and Wilson.

Speaker 3 (32:46):
I know ECR is a pretty sizable gap. I'm a
little bit more closer with them. I've Sutten at fourteen,
Garrett Wilson at fifteen. I mean he's playing it. I
mean Wilson's playing the Jaguars right, I mean you could
see him. This could be a ceiling game for him,
just a matter of well do you think he catches
the touchdown? When more oft than not, it's usually Devonte
that catches the touchdown or you know, you have to
remember that Jaguars really bad against tight end. So is
it Tyler Conklin that randomly finds the end zone? So

(33:08):
and it's also Ann Rodgers, right, anytime you feel safe
about playing Anne Rogers, he somehow is very underwhelming, which
I don't think is a hot take by any means.
And whereas bo Nicks, he's been steady, he's been more consistent,
and the same thing with portland Ston just been like
the model of consistency.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
It looks like on your rankings fits that you have
a wider get you have you have both Sutton higher
than Ericson and Wilson lower than erics.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
Yeah, wide receiver eleven for Sutton, wide receiver twenty one
for Wilson.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
Let's go to another debate here amongst the wide receivers,
DK metcalf or Zay Flowers Ericson, what do you think
about that one?

Speaker 3 (33:43):
Say Flowers? For me, he's playing the Giants. They're one
of the worst evinses overall. They lost exter Lawrence. They're
really bad against the deep ball. So the thing with Mechva,
I just don't know how healthy mecalf is. His production
is basically dipped in four straight weeks since their bye week.
I don't think that he's totally dust at this point,
Like I think that his production is going to come eventually,

(34:04):
but I'm not loving the matchup against green Bay Necessarily,
the Seahawks are leaning more on their defense and running
the ball more effectively, so I'm not so sure we're
seeing as much of Okay, we're gonna just let Gino
cookie and he's gonna throw the ball all over the
green Bay Packers, Like, I don't think that's their formula
for success anymore. Whereas I'll take my chances hoping that
it is a Flowers that converts a big game against
the matchup that he can exploit. And if I'm wrong

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and it just ends up being Dereck Henry with eight touchdowns,
so be it. I don't think that I'm going to
get upset about my process starting the number one wide
receiver against the Giants who have been terrible against I mean,
say Flowers could get it done on one play, like
he got just one deep pass for ADRs for a
touchdown and you're feeling great about it. Whereas Metcalf, he's
been underwhelming the last month and I feel like I've
been ranking him higher than ECR and been disappointed every

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single week. So I've kind of moved him down a
little bit firmly behind Jsen because I don't believe that
he is like one hundred percent healthy.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
Zay hasn't been that involved in the last month. I
mean four catches, two catches five just three catches. He
has one touchdown in that span. He has one game
in double digits, scoring in half PPR, and that game
was his ten point nine points. He hasn't had like
a big blow up in a while. And I am
more worried than you Erickson. That not worried, but like,
I think the Ravens are just gonna pound Henry in

(35:15):
this game and not need to throw like more than
eighteen times. It's kind of my expectation. So I'm pretty
worried about the usage for Day. Not said that there's
not a reason to be slightly concerned about what we've
seen from Metcalf either. That's kind of why I wanted
to pit these guys against each other. What do you think, fits,
Do you also agree that you know it's just Flowers
facing the Giants? Done over think it? Or do you

(35:36):
prefer Metcalf?

Speaker 2 (35:37):
No, you expressed my concerns about Flowers pretty well worm
and I still have him ranked as a low end
wide receiver to wide receiver twenty three and it's nothing
against Zay, but his target and reception volume has tapered
off lately and he has not had double digit targets
in a game or more than five catches in a

(35:57):
game since October. It's been a wi So you just
pointed that out Worman, Yes, against the Giants, doesn't this
feel like a game where maybe we don't see Lamar
Jackson get to twenty five pass attempts. So whereas I
think Green Bay Seattle has sneaky shootout potential, I don't

(36:18):
fear that matchup at all with no Jay r Alexander
for the Packers. In fact, I kind of like it
because I have a feeling that we're going to see
Dk Metcalf run a good number of his routes against
Eric Stokes, and that is a that is a plus matchup.
And I know, like I'm already seeing a lot of
discord questions about whether people should start Dk Metcalf this
week because he has had four straight games without a touchdown,

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four straight games with seventy or fewer receiving yards, and
I realized maybe the emergence of Jackson, Smith and Jigba
is diminishing DK's output a little bit. But at the
same time, like Tyler Lockett has just disappeared from this offense.
So I'm just going to continue to bet on dk
metc Half, the guy who, over his career, has averaged

(37:03):
nine touchdowns this season and almost eleven hundred yards. Like
I still think he's one of the best twenty receivers
in the game.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
Ericson if you had to pick which of these two
receivers is more likely to score a touchdown this week
because they only has four this season, two of them
came in that Broncos game, and dk Metcalf only has
three this season and none since Week seven, so they
haven't Neither of them have been hitting paydirt.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
I mean, I'm gonna just go with the I think
what team's gonna score more touchdowns? So give me the Ravens,
give me say Flowers.

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The decisions here running back ericson Gus Edwards or Nick
Chubb Gus.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
Ed Rich for may I like the Chargers offensive outlook
more than I like the Cleveland Browns, So I think
you're just hoping for a touchdown with one of these guys.
I think that's really the best way to get any
type of production. And I think LA has a better
chance of getting more points than the Browns do against
the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
What do you think fits Gus Edwards and Niche by
the way back to back in ECR and they are
the two names that come after that kind of group
I mentioned earlier of McCormick, Allen Bigsby, Warren Davis, etn.
The two names after them are Edwards and Chubb.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
Yeah. Battle of the plotters here, it's a Godzilla versus Mathra.

Speaker 4 (38:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
I'm gonna take Chubb because I think he's like ten
times the player that Gus Edwards is, and I know
the matchup is brutal. Chiefs have a lot of the
fewest fantasy points to running backs. But like, this is
a Todd Bowles defense that Gus Edwards is running against,
and Todd Bowles defenses are always pretty good against the run.
The Buccaneers have allowed the ninth fewest rushing yards to
running backs this season, and they've only given up six

(38:59):
rushing to Chounce to running back. So I'm just gonna
go with the better player.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
Yeah, it's a Gus Zilla versus Chubra. I guess Chubbras
sounds like that might be dirty. I hope it's actually not.
I've not a real word.

Speaker 4 (39:12):
Chubb Zilla is not.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
Okay, let's do a wide receiver one here, Calvin Ridley
or Malik Neighbors. It's what do you think about that one?

Speaker 2 (39:24):
Ridley sturdy your floor at least five receptions in six
of his last seven games. As for Neighbors, Like, look,
I know the matchup against the Ravens has appeal to
a lot of people, but like, can we count on
Drew Lock to take advantage of a good matchup in
the passing game? A banged up Drew Lock? No?

Speaker 1 (39:43):
Less, it's is didn't they say it's going to be
Tommy DeVito? Or did it.

Speaker 4 (39:49):
They did it.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
Oh yeah, sorry I missed that.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
Yes, all right, well Tommy DeVito against the Ravens. Can
Tommy DeVito take advantage?

Speaker 1 (39:57):
So like?

Speaker 2 (39:58):
Since coming back from his can cushion in Week seven,
Malik Neighbors is averaging sixty one point nine receiving yards
a game, nine point six yards per catch, five point
nine yards per target, and he has not scored a
touchdown in any of those seven games. He has tied
for wide receiver thirty eight in Fantasy points per game
since Week seven. I love the guy, but Neighbors is

(40:20):
just stuck in this unhealthy offensive ecosystem. I'm gonna go
with Calvin Ridley.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
What do you think on this one? Ericson Ridley or Neighbors?

Speaker 3 (40:31):
Yeah, I think it's it's Calvin Realley for me. I
mean he's someone they could both see double digit targets,
but just give me targets from seventy five percent. Well,
I mean, seventy five percent of will Web is still
better than Tommy Depat.

Speaker 4 (40:41):
I'm sorry, Like.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
The guys, the guy's barely an NFL starting quarterback and
as someone that watched Neighbors last week, had the under
on his receiving yards and I thought it was so
locked in loaded.

Speaker 4 (40:50):
I thought he was going to be limited.

Speaker 3 (40:52):
It's like seventy five and a half receiving yards had
the under he had I think forty yards getting into
the fourth quarter, and then somehow he willed his way
Drew Locke, and I was like, oh my god, how
did this bet not cash?

Speaker 4 (41:04):
So I was upset about that, but I don't think.

Speaker 3 (41:06):
I mean, it was a miracle that Drew Lock got
to two hundred passing hours last week. I honestly do
not know how he got it done. So, yes, Malik
Neighbors is, yeah, you gotta go with Kelvin.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
I feel like I get it. I feel like I
could easily see Neighbor like the way that this secondary has,
you know, performed for the Ravens all year, just like
just get the ball in his hand and see if
he breaks one, and you know, similar to what Jamar
Chase has done a bunch of times against this Ravens secondary.
I'm not totally surprised, giving the quarterback stuff and the
injury concerns with Neighbors that he's ranked He's wide receiver

(41:36):
twenty three in ECR. I was surprised that Ridley was
wide receiver twenty one. I guess, just given you know,
kind of what we seen from him recently, just in
terms of the targets and the fact that he's going
up against the Bengals, I was expecting him to be
not too much higher but inside the top twenty at least.
But there are only two spots apart in ECR fits
really at wide receiver twenty one neighbors at wide receiver

(41:57):
twenty three. Does that small gap seem right to you?

Speaker 2 (41:59):
No, I've got Ridley inside the top twenty, I've got
met wide receiver sixteen, and I've got neighbors ten spots
lower wide receiver twenty six.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
Yeah, I think that's kind of more what I would
have expected. Let's look at some flex plays here, Eric
sid Tyrone Tracy again in that Giants Ravens game, or
Jordan Addison, who has obviously coming off this huge three
touchdown performance.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
Jordan Adison, I'm just gonna stay in the Flames guys
on a heater, and he destroyed the Bears last time.
He played in eight catches, one hundred and sixty to
two yards and a touchdown on fourteen targets. I don't
imagine the Bears will just try to stop Justin Jefferson
because they know that Addison could do this to them.
But even so it only gets nine targets. I mean,
he's shown that he can be extremely efficient. The Minnesota
Vikings offenses just is rolling right now and the Bears

(42:45):
are going in the complete opposite direction. So Tolon Tracy, yes,
the workload is great, the targets are great. This austfense
could just bought him out and he could have twenty
touches for thirty yards, right, So that's like the main concern.
So Addison has a I want ceiling with Jordan Addison,
and even yo he finishes four for forty, that could
not be that different from what Tyrone Tracy does. And

(43:06):
just a brutal matchup on paper, just against a team
that is well beyond where the Giants are right right now,
where do you.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
Have Addison ranked amongst receivers this week?

Speaker 3 (43:15):
I mean, he's like a tough guy to rank because
he's the number two on his team, but he also
he's blowing up randomly, so he's on my side, my
top thirty, But I could see I could I mean,
if you want to argue he should be a top
twenty receiver. He had three touchdowns last week. I can't
argue against you. Was just he's one of these guys where, yes,
the projections are going to say one thing with him
because we can only protect him for an x amount

(43:36):
of targets. But he's also been on fire. So can
he be ranked ahead of guys like jmo or Darnell Mooney.
It's like yes because those guys are in similar roles
and he's obviously been the hotter guy. So yeah, I
mean I have a twenty nine. But if I'm wrong
about that, I would not be surprised.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
Fitz, what do you think about this one? Tracy or Addison?

Speaker 2 (43:53):
I'm going with Addison too. I mean, over the last
six weeks he's the wide receiver six and half points
PPR fan is he scoring? And like I know, there's
a wide range of outcomes for Addison, Like he was
not faring so well earlier in the season. He's had
five he's played eleven games. In five of them he's
got forty two or fewer receiving yards. But Tracy, it's

(44:17):
just a brutal matchup for him against the Ravens run defense,
and his offensive line is completely falling apart. Obviously, the
Giants have been without stud left tackle Andrew Thomas for
a while. They have also been playing without tackle Jermaine
Luminor I can former, I always have a hard time
pronouncing his last name. And they just lost guard John

(44:40):
Runyon to an ankle injury. So like decimated offensive line
against a really tough run defense. Like I could see
Ericson's outcome here taking hold for sure, twenty touches, thirty yards.
He's like Tracy's had fewer than fifty rushing yards in
three straight and his last two games were against the
cow Boys and Saints, which are not exactly impregnable run defenses.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
Let's look at another flex here, Fitz, I'll start with
you on this one. DeAndre Swift or guy we already
talked about. Brian Thomas junior.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
Oh, Brian Thomas junior for sure, I mean like yeah,
like he is produced even with Mac Jones last week,
twelve targets, eight catches, eighty six yards. Swift's been dealing
with a groin injury. He said, fewer than forty rushing
yards in three straight games, and he's going up against
the Minnesota run defense that ranks third in DVA and
has a lot of the third fewest fantasy points to
running backs.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
Ericson what do you think about this one? Swift or Thomas?
I know you're a Thomas guy.

Speaker 4 (45:35):
Yeah, it's gonna be Thomas for me.

Speaker 3 (45:37):
But just like pointing out, I think Swift is starting
to run out of gas at this point. Again, he's
another running back that we always enter the season with
some type of like injury concerns, like how is he
going to hold up to his workload? So again, going
back to yes log these running backs have stayed healthy,
but how healthy are they from an effective standpoint? He
is under forty rushing yards in three straight games, right,
and it's not like he hasn't seen like decent amount
of volume, but the game scripts haven't gone in the

(45:58):
way the Chicago Bears basically are giving the opposing team
twenty points in the first half, so then they can't
even really establish any type.

Speaker 4 (46:06):
Of run game.

Speaker 3 (46:07):
So again, against Minnesota a couple weeks back, he had
thirteen carries for thirty yards, three caps for thirty five yards.
So I mean, does he have a six to seven
point floor? Yes, I think you can do better with
all thirty two teams available and grind Thomas Junior will
definitely be a better bet in my opinion.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
How about Eric San'll go to you here, Rashad White
or Jerry Judy this week.

Speaker 3 (46:28):
I think if if Bucky Irving doesn't play, I want
to start with Shod White. And do you think he's again.
He's had such a weird runout because he looked like
a bus at the beginning of the year and then
he just went on this unreal touchdown scoring spree where
he's like continues to get it done every single week,
kind of like the Chiefs winning all these games. So
and he's looked a lot better again, not as good
as Bucky Irving and maybe even Shawn Tucker to some extent,

(46:50):
but he's definitely taken on this new running scheme that
Liam Cohen has implemented and done pretty well for himself.
So I do like Rashad White, especially for the Chargers
who don't stack the box, have been really good against
light fronts this season. So we were shot a White
for me if Bucket doesn't play, but if Bucky he's
in there, we have more of a committee. You got
to stay in the flames. With Jerry Judy, I mean
he's just been so good. He's been so efficient with

(47:11):
Jamis Winston. And even though he's been the thing that's
impressive the most for me is he's not even doing
it on like this crazy amount of volume. Like in
Djoku is seeing more targets than Jerry Judy is. Elijah
Moore is seeing just as many targets as Jerry Judy's.
But Jerry Judy is the one that's been the most consistent,
scoring touchdowns, making big plays. And the Chief Stefens has
been overrated since they lost Jalen Watson, they're one of
their cornerbacks. Also lost josh Wa Williams last week as well,

(47:34):
So I think that I think this Chiefs Browns game
we gotta be sneaky fun because we've got some problems
with both secondaries. So I would go with Judy if
Bucky Irving is playing.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
Yeah, there have been I think six games since Jamis
Winston took over as quarterback in Cleveland, and in five
of them, Judy either has eleven plus targets or six
or fewer targets. There haven't been There's only have been
one game that's kind of like right in that middle zone,
so up and down from that perspective, but the production
has been there every single week. Fits Judy this week or.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
White, So I agree that if for shod White that
if Bucky Irving doesn't play, then you have to go
with Forshad White, especially since we didn't see Sean Tucker
very involved last week with Bucky Irving out. But if
Bucky Irving does play, then I'm going with Judy and
maybe not the easiest matchup in the world for Judy.
Friend of the Show Jacob Gibbs of CBS pointed out

(48:28):
that Judy is not fair to all that well against
press coverage, and the Chiefs play press coverage at a
pretty high rate. But you know, like Judy is still
just a wash in targets from Jamis Winston, like he
is pretty much getting the double digit targets every week,
and like that that volume usually pays off more often

(48:49):
than not. So I prefer Judy over White, if indeed
White is in a committee with Bucky Irving.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
Fits last one here for the Flexes, Johnston or any
Denver running back. Obviously, the Broncos backfield has been a
huge headache all season. They're facing the Colts, who are
not a good rush defense to put it to put
it kindly, but they've just been so frustrating. So any
of them you choose or Quentin Johnston.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
Okay, this is conditional. Again. If Lad McConkie has ruled out,
I will take QJ against the Buccaneers. If Lad McConkie plays,
I will roll with Julie McLoughlin over Quenton Johnston. And
I know Sean Payton's running back usage is wildly unpredictable,
hence your framing of this question giving us the any

(49:39):
Denver running back selection. But in week thirteen before the
broncos by was Julia McLoughlin leading the way with fourteen
carries for eighty four yards against the Browns. He looked
good in that game. And McLaughlin is like the quickest,
most elusive of Denver's backs. He also has some pass
catching upside, and as you say said, where I'm good

(50:00):
match up against the Colts who allowed the second most
rushing yards to running back. So if Lad McConkie is playing,
I would go with Julia McLoughlin over Quentin Johnston.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
Fits you're falling into the trap. Oh, he looked good
last week. Sean Payton's gonna go back to him, you
can insert any name into there, because we said that
about Gavata this year.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
He said that this year this will be the twenty
five Carryodric Estimate game exactly.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
Eric said, any Denver running back or Quentin Johnston fits.

Speaker 3 (50:30):
I can't believe you didn't go back to your flag
plant Quinn Johnson when he's prime.

Speaker 4 (50:34):
Against this terrible buck.

Speaker 3 (50:35):
I'm going Quentin Johnson because the way I look at it,
Quin Johnson has fifty five percent catch right this season,
and there's a thirty three percent chance I'll pick the
right Denver Bronco's running back. So with those odds, give
me the fifty five percent.

Speaker 4 (50:47):
So I'm gonna go with QJ.

Speaker 3 (50:49):
The Buccaneers are horrible, and I'll take my chances with
he with him catching the touchdown where Hobbie wide open,
versus trying to pick which Broncos running back will be
the Sean Payton du jour this week. If anything, I'm
looking at this from a live betting perspective where I
honestly think Peyton goes in and he doesn't know who's
gonna feature either, but he like watches the first drive,
He's like, all right, that guy looks good like let's
ride him. So I'm gonna test that out this week

(51:10):
watching this Broncos game to see, all right, is this
what Seohn Payn's really doing? He just watches the first drive.
Whoever looks good gets fed that particular week because obviously
anything he says or anything we see the week before
means nothing because it has not helped us at all
protecting these guys on a week to week basis.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
I thought you were about to accuse a cue Sean
Payton of having like an underling on the bench live
betting running back watching during the game.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
That wouldn't I wouldn't fit it passed him.

Speaker 4 (51:39):
Someone's gonna check this out.

Speaker 1 (51:40):
Yeah, quarterback decision here, Sam Darnald or Jared GoF fits?
Do you like better? Oh?

Speaker 2 (51:47):
Donald Vikings have been really good at home twenty seven
point nine points a game in home games. Donald has
averaged two hundred and fifty one passing yards and two
point four touchdown passes in home games. He gets the
BA who just a couple of weeks ago he hit
up for three hundred and thirty passing yards and two touchdowns.

(52:07):
So I might have goff rank too low. I've got
him quarterback fifteen Like, On the one hand, you think
the Bills have the fire power to turn this game
against the Lions into a shootout, which might boost Goff's
upside and keep the Lions from going run heavy. But
then again, you'd think that would be the case for
all of the Bill's opponents this season, and yet the
Bills have allowed the fourth fewest fantasy points to quarterbacks.

(52:31):
So I just I think Darnold's a better percentage.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
Play ericson here, do you prefer?

Speaker 3 (52:37):
I'm chasing the points with this Bills Lions game? Again, Golf, Like,
it seems the thing that holds him back most of
the time fantasy productions is that the Lions has decided
to run the ball and they just don't give him
an off enough opportunities to score touchdowns. But in this game,
where you could see them like in a pass heavy
game script with all the weapons they have offensively, this
could be a This could be a Jared Goff five

(52:57):
touchdown game like, this could be his best game of
the year statistically, So I think it's worth chasing.

Speaker 4 (53:01):
So I'm gonna go with Golf.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
While we're on the quarterbacks, I want to ask you guys,
I am the lone Fantasy pros representative still alive in
the Scott fish Bowl playoffs, and I have a quarterback
decision to make it super flex, so I need to
One of them is Sam Darnold, who I am starting.
But the other two we don't typically talk about Thursday players,
but just because I want you guys help me out,
Matthew Stafford or Anthony Richardson. I am very torn on

(53:23):
those two ericson do you have a preference there for
my second quarterback?

Speaker 3 (53:28):
Don't the scott fish Bowl settings kill quarterbacks that are
inaccurate and like turn the ball over?

Speaker 1 (53:34):
No?

Speaker 3 (53:34):
They I don't remember what the again, my team was
so bad, I.

Speaker 4 (53:39):
Kind of like, I kind of stop paying attention to
just you gotta tell me.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
The settings really favor running quarterbacks because you get points
for the first downs, and I think you only get
a point for every what like fifty passing yards?

Speaker 1 (53:52):
Yeah, I forget the exact number.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
Forty rush Yeah, yeah, it definitely I think points toward
Richard's for me.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
But it's just so hard to be like, I'm in
the you know this big there's five hundred teams left,
Like you can't get his dud from somebody and richards
and his head duds this year.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
So the last few weeks of the scott Fishball playoffs
cut the playoff field in half, right, like I was
in the last round and unfortunately had a bunch of
people on buy, so I'm no longer around. But it
went from one thousand people to five hundred. Isn't it
a deeper cut this week? Isn't it only like two
hundred or one hundred make it out of this week?

Speaker 1 (54:30):
So I believe it's another half. I thought it is
too fifty. I could be wrong on that.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
I think you should chase the upside here with Richardson.

Speaker 4 (54:40):
With richards agreed, agreed with the with the mobile boost.

Speaker 3 (54:43):
I mean even if you just look at raw projections
from like a normal like the thing with Stafford, he
has to throw like four touchdowns, right, Like it's so
easy for Richard just gets rushing forty yards and a
touchdown like you're already in the clear. So like his
bar to pass, I get the matchup is horrible. But
if they just run him in the end zone like.

Speaker 1 (54:59):
I have Richardson in now, but I wanted to make
sure that I wasn't it's right call you know, underthinking it.
You know Puka's looks so good.

Speaker 4 (55:08):
Everything imagine underthinking something in fantas But.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
All right, thank you for that little sidetrack there. Tight
end Tucker Craft or Pat Fryermuth, two guys who have
I think been in this segment a lot this year,
But I don't know that I've ever actually put the
two of them against each other. So I will now
Tucker crafts or Pat Fryarmuth fits. Who do you like?

Speaker 2 (55:30):
Tucker Craft? In the ten games since Jordan Love came
back from his early season knee injury, Tucker Craft has
had seven touchdown catches. Target distribution is always guesswork with
these Green Bay pass catchers, but Craft has been Love's
favorite red zone target, and he's also got a pretty
good matchup against the Seahawks. We've given up the eighth

(55:50):
most receptions and tenth most receiving yards to tight ends.
I know, the target outlook theoretically gets better for Pat
Fryarmouth with George Pickens out, but Pickens was out last
week and Friarmuth had three targets. No Granedy did turn
those three targets into three catchers for forty eight yards
in a touchdown, but Friarmuth is averaging three point eight

(56:11):
targets a game this year, and a tough matchup against
the Eagles, I allowed the a fewest fantasy points to
tight end. So I'll take Tucker.

Speaker 1 (56:18):
Craft ericson Craft or Friarmuth.

Speaker 3 (56:22):
Tucker Craft for me too, love the man, let's go.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
I'm not gonna lie. This I thought was a good,
you know, kind of head to head base on where
they're ranked. I also have to make that decision in
scott Fishball, so I was definitely using this outline to
have you guys help.

Speaker 4 (56:35):
Me your own selfish we'll have.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
McBride in that league, but tight ends get so much
that it's worth considering me.

Speaker 4 (56:41):
Know, we know what McBride's go this week.

Speaker 1 (56:43):
Yeah, yeah, you're you're all over that not scoring a touchdown?

Speaker 2 (56:47):
Oh sorry, well.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
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Touchdown calls contest ericson do you want to start us
off with your tight end?

Speaker 3 (57:21):
Yeah, it's gonna be Tree McBride talking about the Prediction show.
He may score one, two, or maybe three touchdowns. So
sixteen red zone targets, Patriots are not gonna be able
to stop Trey McBride. And it's actually funny, like the
books have gotten notice about train McBride's like touchdown with streak.
So there's a special on the This is DraftKings sports book.
There's a special on Trey McBride to have nine catches
but not to score a touchdown, and it's called Trey

(57:43):
McBride's made.

Speaker 4 (57:46):
That's plus seven hundred.

Speaker 3 (57:49):
So if you think I'm wrong, you want to fade
me plus seven hundred.

Speaker 4 (57:52):
He catches nine balls, doesn't score. There you go.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
I love that. Honestly, that's great for this.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
Tray McBride touchdown allergy. This is a real thing. Like
this goes back to his last year at Colorado State
when he had like three hundred catches and one touchdown. Like,
for whatever reason, this dude just cannot get into the
end zone.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (58:11):
I think it's funny too, because it's not like he
hasn't scored any touchdowns this year.

Speaker 4 (58:15):
He has two, but one of the rushing.

Speaker 3 (58:16):
Touchdown and one is a fumble that he recovered in
the end zone.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
Yeah, yeah, it is wild all right to Trainick Bride
is Eric's picket touchdown? Fits? Who's your running back?

Speaker 2 (58:26):
Isaiah Pichecko? Like he is due, He's he's going to
get into the end zone for the first time since
coming back from injury. And you know what, this part
of this is totally wish casting because, as I mentioned,
Isaiah Pachecko was my hero running back in a couple
of leagues. Well one of those leagues, I still managed
to somehow get into the fantasy playoffs, and I need
Pacheco to come through for me this week.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
I had a lot of builds like that as well
with Pachecko, so I'm I'm also hoping for a big
week from him at wide receiver. I've got Courtland Sutton.
We already talked about it, just been so consistent recently.
Matchup's not scary in this one coming off the bye week,
so we've got tight end Trey McBride, at running back
Isaiah Pacheco, and at wide receiver Courtland Sutton. We will
wrap up there. Thank you everybody for tuning in. Best

(59:09):
of luck you're in the Fantasy playoffs here in week fifteen.
As reminder, we'll be doing the show throughout the entire
Fantasy Playoffs, so we'll be with you every round that
you are surviving, or if you just want to get
a sense of the week, you can continue to keep listening.
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(59:30):
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