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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Follow the Money. That's why I say you always follow. Yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
This is Follow the Money with Mitch Moss and Polly
Howard on VSON. Here we go.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
It is Follow the Money on VSON, the Sports Betty Network.
Speaker 4 (00:15):
This show is brought to you by DraftKings Mitch Moss
along with Jonathan von tobol in for Paully Howard. This
week we are live in downtown Las Vegas from the
Circa Resort and Casino. Big, big show lined up for
you today, plenty on the NBA with the playing games
beginning tonight, some adjusted numbers now with news that came
out yesterday. In this sport we'll get to fresh NFL
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draft props that we're going to discuss in fifteen minutes.
Good guests on the program, including Matt Humans with his
best bets for the NFL Draft and the NBA playing
games as well. And we do have this Lakers number
tonight JBT against the Pelicans. It's around the money line,
so it's really not that significant, but at DraftKings, for example,
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the Pelicans are a one point favorite at home tonight
against the Lakers. If you look around at other spots,
either in Las Vegas or National Sports books, you can
find it pick them and in fact, there is a
Lakers minus one and a half out there in this game.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
Wow, anthy end to day is questionable. Yeah, so that's
the real thing. And we see the market do this
all the time, right, which is all right. If Anthony Davis,
once he's ruled active, then you'll probably see that one
point bump toward the Los Angeles Lakers wherever it's at.
Obviously the spot is already one and a half. I
don't think you're gonna go to two and a half
because it'd be a pretty off market there. But it's
not going to be surprising where we're sitting as a pick,
and I wouldn't be surprised if this closes. Pick the
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Lakers minus one and you could really get involved whenever
you want. Pre flop one either way is not going
to make the biggest difference in the world. But the
more I've like kind of dove into this matchup, the
more I find it kind of hard not to come
in and back the Lakers, assuming that Anthony Davis is
going to play, and assuming that I want to say
yes because it's the play in and you don't want
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to play games with this injury report anymore, and if
he's going to be healthy to he's going to be
ready to go, and it would seem that the indications
are that he is healthy and ready to go. So
I'm going to kind of assume that you're going to
get ad out there and that this is eventually going
to close.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Pick Lakers, if I made Anthony Davis right now minus
two dollars to play in this game.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Tonight, would you bet the Yes, I would say yes,
you would bet two dollars.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
I know we were talking and kind of laughing about
the ability or the potential for the Lakers try to
thread the needle right, which is lose this game, then
play the losers the winner of the nine to ten matchup,
and try to get the Oklahoma City Thunder. The reality
is is that you don't want to put it up
to a one game elimination and that you want to
come in and win this matchup. So I do think
that you're going to put your best foot forward. I
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do think that Anthony Davis is going to play here,
So I would say yes, I think it's a fair
price that minus two hundred he plays.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
They just played on Sunday. Was never even a game
Lakers blew them out. Are we going to get a
repeat of that? Where are you at with Brandon Ingram
and his status overall?
Speaker 5 (02:55):
Well, his here's the thing, So he misses a bunch
of time and then of course he comes back at
the end of the year, not that you know, I
would say ready to go in terms of like the
health and the continuity. But to me, that's not the
biggest problem. So it's going over some of the things
for this matchup, and obviously, like the big thing that
sticks out, Mitch is what are you going to do
defensively here? So the Lakers in their three games sorts
could be their four games that they played against the
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New Orleans Pelicans, they got an offense rating a one
twenty four point one, So every one hundred possessions they're
scoring one hundred and twenty four point one points against
the Pelicans. And the real big issue and you saw
in that last game Jonas Valentunis only played seven minutes
in that last game against the Lakers. His by the way,
I think it's points and rebounds. I got a double check.
I was kind of half asleep and I was looking
up late last night. I think we're sitting in like
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eleven and a half. We don't know how long he's
going to be out there, and the reason is he's
kind of been a nightmare defensively for them. How about
a couple of numbers here, Anthony Davis in the four
games against Jonas Valentiunas twenty two points seven assists, nine
to fourteen from the floor. Lebron James eighteen points five assists,
seven to ten from the floor. That's what Jonas vallencunis
is a primary defender. You can't really do anything there.
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Zion Williamson has been having to defend the Lebron James
certain possessions.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Yeah, it's the same thing with Ruy Hatchmore.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
Ruy Hatchmore is a perfect seven to seven in this
series against Zion Williamson is a primary defender.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Lebron's been to the free throw and ten times.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
As Zion Williamson is a primary defender, what adjustments are
you making defensively that is going to change this thing
for you?
Speaker 1 (04:16):
If you're the New Orleans Pelicans.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Well, and we know that going in right, because again
this year for the Lakers, the discrepancy in shooting free
throws is heavily in their favor yep. And so if
they're going to play their basketball game and it's going
to be a typical Lakers refereid contest, they're probably going
to outshoot the Pelicans by a significant amount at the stripe.
And if they're hitting all those free throws, then they
are going to win this game. And if Ad plays,
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they are going to win this game. You the valen
Tunis then is just what's more likely to happen here.
He's a total non factor in the game, or he
doesn't even play. And when I say that, I mean
he's not going to get that many minutes.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
Yeah, I think you start him still, and he's played
in all of them, but their minus nineteen in the
four games with him on the floor. It's just not good.
So you start him. You try to do something with them.
Obviously you're in a little bit of a type bind
because Anthony Davis does like to play a little bit
like elbow extended. And then of course can use an
athleticism in those spots. It's not like a traditional post
up and use your size and you to me, you
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mentioned the biggest thing, which is the free throws. The
New Orleans Pelicans are tenth in free throw rate. They
make twenty point two free throws for every one hundred
shot attempts. It's the tenth best in the NBA. The Lakers.
The underrated thing about what the Los Angeles Lakers do.
It's not so much that they make as many free throws.
They're second in both offensive and defensive free throw rate.
So not only do they get a ton of free throws,
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they don't foul teams, or I guess we'll say they
don't foul teams.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
The referees don't bawl the whistle against the Lakers as
much as they do to every other team in the league.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Bab correct.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
And so when you can't, when you as a team
are dependent on that, but you can't get there while
the other team can consistently do it, it's absolutely nuts.
And when you look too, how about this this is
the big thing, and it goes back to again like
for me, that's why I keep going back to the Lakers,
because these physical matchups are always still there. In these
four games Mitch that they have played, forty point nine
percent of the Lakers attempts have come within four feet
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of the basket. They have shot seventy six percent on
those attempts.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Now, that is bonkers.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
They're just killing them inside. They're getting to the free
throw line, and you just you don't know what you're
gonna do because you have good to wing defenders like
Herb Jones is awesome. Herb Jones gives up like a
million pounds to Lebron James. Oh yeah, you're not gonna
hill contest, right. So like when I this is why
I like the playoffs so much, because you look at
these matchups, you go, what are you gonna do? How
are you going to adjust? And for me, there's not
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much adjustment you're doing here in this series that's going
to change what has been going wrong for you to
the first four games.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
What if we get absolute peak a plus game out
of Zion Williamson Me, it could be. I mean, then
he goes for thirty five eight rebounds in ten assists.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
Then I think you're looking to play this thing over
because I don't. I don't think there's a reality in
which you're stopping the Lakers like Lebron again is matching
up with Zion pretty frequently in this matchup. You're not
feeling comfortable putting Zion pretty much anywhere else you could
put him in that role of kind of like a
roving defender, but he's not like a Rudy Gobert or
anybody else that's gonna come over and tightly can test
some shots. So maybe this thing goes over the total,
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but that's what you're looking for. You're also looking, of course,
if that's going to be the case. You're getting a
three throw line a little bit more than you were
in this series against the Lakers. But I think that's
really the only change here because I don't think there's
a reality because here's the thing, Like in the four games,
if the Lakers just bombing away from three, then you're like, okay, cool,
maybe in one off you're gonna be able to kind
of get some good shooting regression. They're not going to
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hit those shots.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
But when you're giving.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
Up shots within four feet of the basket that regularly
against this team, that's not changing. When you get back
to another game here, even if it's on your own floor.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Do people need to tread lightly betting this game live tonight?
The thought is here because it basically is around to
pick them that you're going to potentially get a much
better number than this on either side because runs happen
in the NBA. But what about if let's say either
team gets out to a fifteen point second quarter lead,
or they're leading by doubles in a third quarter. Could
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could the team that's losing at some point decide, you
know what, we lose this one, We're gonna punt on
the rest of this game, we have one more I'll
set my guys here, and you want to be careful
with maybe watching how they're gonna do what they're gonna
do with the rotations.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
That could that be in play?
Speaker 5 (08:10):
I mean, I think it is, but I don't think
it's in play until late in the fourth quarter. Late
in the fourth quarter because, like, as we kind of
discussed here, like if you're the Lakers and for whatever reason,
you find yourself in the fourth quarter with like two
and a half minutes left, you know, two minutes left
and you're down by like thirteen points, do you give
it like one more possession and if you can't get that.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Three or whatever it is, do you pull the plug?
Speaker 5 (08:30):
Because not only do you have one more shot at
this whoever's gonna win the late game, there's also the
added benefit of you know, if we win that game,
we get the much more favorable matchup there in the
Oklahoma City Thunder, and then, by the way, we get
the winner of LA and Dallas, so that would be
a fascinating matchup for them as well. So the path
just becomes a little bit more easier. So I think
that's kind of the worry. But I still think, like
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first half, I wouldn't be shy about doing what you
usually do in NBA games. Like you said, it's a
one point spread. Oh, if the Pelicans go up six nothing,
you're gonna get a pretty solid number here.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
What you want, like if you're if you're if that's
your plan, you want like sixteen five out of the gates? Yeah,
time out? Okay, what's the new line? I'm going to
come and bet the Lakers at that point. I would
also flip it though, and say the Pelicans, I mean,
could the writing be on the wall early for this team?
They just got blown out again against the Lakers on Sunday,
Ingram has not, I mean, he was hurt for a while,
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recently came back, and they could look at it as well,
we do.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Have another home game here, suh.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Yeah, I mean that would be the team that would
want to probably stay away from grabbing a big number
getting blown out.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
I think so.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
And by the way too, I mean it's just the
mental aspect of it, right, which is great. Here we
go again. The Lakers go up like sixteen to five
immediately in this matchup. If if you're the Pelicans, where
are you at mentally?
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Well, even if it's like sixty two forty three at
halftime or something where it's totally lopsided, what.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Are you going to get in the second half?
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Man?
Speaker 1 (09:51):
I remember I was there.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
I was so excited to watch this ind season tournament
game between them and the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Left after the second quarter. It was like that this
is a the there's no need to be here.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Yeah, they're again run off the floor and again you
see that, you know, big matchup. Obviously, everything on the
line for the Pelicans. You know, you got to get
out of the play in you get ramped up and
ready to go. I mean they essentially played this game
that was a playoff game for both those teams at
the end of the regular season.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Yep. And that's what transpired. It was an absolute slaughter.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
I will point out that the public they are six
and ten ats playing the playing games, and tonight the
Lakers at DraftKings sixty eight percent of the handle, seventy
four percent of the bets, and in the Lake game
the Warriors now bumped up to three. At some spots,
they're getting ninety two percent of the handle at draft kings,
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seventy seven percent of the bets.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
I mean, look, he's intered to those six and ten.
There's six covers in there. They're right sometimes right. So
I just when there's so many mismatches that go in
favor of one side and it's not reliant on shooting
from distance things like that, I find it hard to Obviously,
the looming thing is whether Anthony Davis is going to play,
But if you give me both of them, I find
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it hard to really come off of the side of
the Lakers here.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Side note, there is also a massive game tonight in
the NHL for Atlantic Division futures. Because the Bruins lost
last night. It's up for grabs. It's either the Bruins
or the Panthers to win it tonight. The Bruins win
the Atlantic one of three different ways. If they beat
Ottawa tonight, Florida has to lose against Toronto and regulation
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or Boston and Florida both lose their games in overtime,
then Boston will win.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
If it comes down to a tie.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Florida owns the tiebreaker tonight, so and Florida was a
massive number to win this division.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Earlier on in the season, craziness NFL.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Draft up next Circa released all their props yesterday.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
It was crazy with the four and a half quarterbacks.
Speaker 6 (11:57):
Mitch Mass and Paul Howard are here to make you
a friend of ours. That would be a mad guy
investigating what is and isn't legit fugazy all right, seeing
through the lines to make you a better better I
know you know, and I know you know, I know
you the FtM Army is being sent for an odd thing.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
You get sent for.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
You're going alive and you'll come out then.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
And it's your best friend.
Speaker 6 (12:22):
That these two wise guys would never steer you wrong.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Forget about it.
Speaker 6 (12:27):
This is real or fugazy on follow the money.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Mitch Moss along with Jonathan von Tubble here he's in
this week for Paulie Howard. You were born when nineteen
ninety Donnie Brasco was made in nineteen ninety seven.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Okay, I can watch it.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Okay, so you've never heard of it?
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Is my guest, No, no shot nothing, Donnie Brasco.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
In my opinion, the most underrated mob movie of all time.
It's never talked about when people get into that conversation
of best Mafia movies on X. Let jab know how
badly he needs to watch this movie. He's at me, JVT,
I'm to watch it. Johnny Depp is incredible, Paccino's fantastic.
That's for Gayzy, forget about you know all of that.
(13:11):
So that's where that movie is. I don't know somehow
it's it's I've watched it probably ten times. In every
single it's based on a true story.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
For audience too, I'm very anti watching movies that came
out before the year I was born, so production values
just garbage.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
You have to appreciate it for what it was like
back then.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Terrible.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
Okay, all right, If under four and a half quarterbacks
in the first round is a losing bet, it's because
of Michael Pennox and not bow Nix.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Is that real or for Gazy that's real? It's not.
I don't think Nix is the better quarterback. Pennix is
the better quarterback.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
And if I were to lose under four and a
half quarterbacks, I would prefer that it is Michael Pennox
who sneaks into.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
The first round.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Are you almost saying that you're okay with it losing
to Michael Penox?
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (13:57):
If I lose because bow Knicks went in the first
round and not Micha Pennix, no, no shot.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
How about this idea?
Speaker 4 (14:02):
So you bet the under at a nice plus price?
Are you thinking about maybe getting off of that a
little bit by adding Pennix to go in the first
round as kind of a safety net, because you can
They're both plus money and you're not going to get
I mean, you can't win both bets, obviously, but I could.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
I'm also very greedy and think that I'm right, and
so I might just roll with this thing.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Hedging discussion coming up in about twelve minutes.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
By the way, judging a college quarterbacks level of success
in the NFL is not an easy way to make
a living.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Is that real or fugazy? Oh?
Speaker 1 (14:34):
It's real. I mean, you look at it. So.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
Bucky Brooks had an awesome tweet about like a month
ago of the I think it's like the last three seasons,
but of like the last nineteen quarterbacks drafted, only two
are expected to start Week one.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
This coming season.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
I think that's that's how hard this is in terms
of evaluate some of these quarterbacks and developing.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Yeah, I actually leaned towards being negative about their futures,
just because I've been around and watch this thing for
so long. In fact, I retweeted a bit yesterday it
was cold takes what is it called creasing?
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Cold Takes?
Speaker 4 (15:05):
On X they did a compilation of some of the
NFL draft was basically a montage of hot takes and
opinions on ESPN and other networks over the years, and
how just severely wrong they were on these quarterbacks. But
I mean, some guys are going to be really good,
other guys are not. I would actually say that the
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miss percentage is much higher on these guys than the
hip percentage. And I don't like coming out. I used
to have a strong opinion on all these guys one
way or the other. Now if I have a strong opinion,
it's going to be on a guy can't play, not
that a guy's going to be unbelievable, because I've seen
it too happen too often where these can't miss prospects
are rarely ever can't miss.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Yeah, you know how.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Many guys have lived up to the hype.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
It happens all of the time with every single one
of these guys. And that's why I do think too,
we're starting to see the shift a little bit where
it's like, I don't need to spend that first round
pick and try to capture this if I don't have
the first overall selection, let me try to go. We'leve
a second round. Let me try to go and grab
these guys a little bit later, and if they develop,
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they develop, But if they don't, I at least drafted
a stud edge rusher or an offensive lineman or a
guy who's going to be there past his first contract.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
That will help me out here.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
And it's much much easier to move on from a third, fourth,
fifth round pick at quarterback. Yeah, then it is if
you take him number one overall, top five, top ten,
wherever that might be in the first round.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
And it goes back to so I know a lot
of people like the whole thought of Hey, extra year control.
It's hard to leave your team regardless if you're a
guy who's a quarterback who's going to be a signal caller.
That's the franchise guy. You're gonna get your contract, regardless
of what's gonna happen. They can slap a franchise tag
it whatever it is. So I don't think that that's
that attractive of a caveat for the first round.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
If I get a guy, I'm gonna sign him. I'm
gonna give him his money.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
It doesn't matter, right, Like, would I be stunned if
Caleb Williams is a flop?
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Yeah, I will be surprised.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
But is he expected to go in there and play
like Andrew luck did when he was a prospect that
was going to be can't miss or a Peyton Manning.
That's those are pretty lofty expectations at a very high
level for him to reach. And on the flip side,
will I be surprised if Daniels may McCarthy and don't
work out?
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Not at all.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
In fact, I would expect it and lean that way
that they're not going to be able to translate to
the NFL level again, because so many guys have come
out with look at what they did in college.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
They were unbelievable at that level.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
Power five Conference did it for three years and then
could all of this stuff JJ McCarthy might turn out
to be really good pro I'm convinced that people who
are in his quarter and fighting that fight, screaming and
yelling from the mountain on top. So he's got to
go number two overall or he's the best quarterback in
this class behind they want to be.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
I told you so guy more than anything else.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Oh yeah, one d per. I've been there since the beginning.
I knew.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
I told you I always feel like to when party
your cat, when part of your cell is that he
was really good in high school.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
It's a little cool, great, terrific. It's like one of
those like you know, how is he as a players?
Like he's a really nice guy? Like well, it's not
what I'm asking.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
They're trying to extrapolate small moments in time from McCarthy
as the quarterback in a run heavy offense, in a situation,
maybe even against bad teams in the Big ten. Look
at this play on third down and eleven where McCarthy
noticed the heat coming and he scrambled out and he
made this throw. That's great. It happened a handful of
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times in the college level. Does that mean he's going
to be a franchise quarterback for ten years in the NFL.
Not necessarily, it would leap in my opinion. I also
watched them almost give away the game against Maryland. No kidding, Yeah,
it's a major disappointment if the Boston Celtics do not
win the Eastern Conference real or fugazy oh real?
Speaker 5 (18:55):
I like their their win total, their lost total should
be three and a half. And again this is specifically
Eastern Conference. This thing is setting up for them so nicely.
Giannis is injured. They could get eliminated by the Indiana Pacers. Sure,
maybe you get like I think the heavyweight matchup. If
the seventy six ers right lose this game win the
eight seed Joel Embi could go nuts. But the way
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this thing is setting up for them, it is dude,
you know, ask er get off the pot, like this
is the time. You better not mess around the fact
that you were down three nothing last year to Miami
Heat was unacceptable as you saw what happened to them
in the finals. You need to get this done now.
This year you're better. You have Drew Holiday, you have
christopspersingas the Eastern Conference around you.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Low key kind of stinks this thing.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
You better make this thing out absolutely on paper numbers wise,
they are the twenty seventeen Warriors.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Yes, and it has to show out on the court
this year.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
And if it doesn't, if they do not come out
of the Eastern Conference, what does it mean from Missoula
moving forward? And then what they're gonna sign Jason Tatum
and give him more than three hundred They're gonna have
six hundred million tight end to Tatum and Jalen Brown.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Just give Drew Holiday contract.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Yeah, tons of mone.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
Yep, No, I agree like this is this would be
a massive disappointment.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
If they don't make this thing out. Oh, it's beyond upset.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
Yes, like, no, they can, but that's part part of
the problem. And I wrote about this in the NBA Primer, which,
by the way, check it out Abson dot com. You know,
one of the big things for them is the last
two years you in the postseason, you have had an
extremely negative net rating in clutch time. You have not
been able to operate in the postseason in these games
that are within five points.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Yeah, that's got to change.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
You've got to stop just taking the gun and just
boom shooting yourself with the foot over and over and
over again. Those things can't happen with the improvements. It shouldn't.
But like, that's kind of why this has also been
so disappointing. It's not that they've run into these buzzsaws
like these great teams now, No, they've run into themselves
like that cannot happen anymore.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
They go into hero ball yep and clutch time. It's
the exact opposite of what makes the team brilliant done offense.
I got to get a Fugazian here at some point,
maybe this will be the one people bashing Okay, see
and by the way, there was plenty of it yesterday
and on Sunday night. Clearly did not watch and play
this year real or Fugazy clearly.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
Did not play. So my answer, if I would say Fugazy,
what I'm saying that those people bashing them are right there? Yes,
so no, So that's real thing, that's real.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
I can't get a fogate Okay, all right, all.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Right, I mean he means you know why who's bashing him?
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (21:14):
I was up and down there.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
I'm listening to national radio yesterday outside of v SIN,
I'm watching stuff on TV. It's just like people are
going to be so disappointed in Okay, see yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Mean this goes to the point where this is about
the time where a lot of people.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
Just kind of check in swoop in pretty much yet right,
But no, if you if you didn't watch, they were incredible.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
No, I got what you got. I'll give you Fugaze
at some point, what are we doing? I got one
more dialed up for you.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
The Sons and Kings passing a Luca in the twenty
eighteen NBA Draft, followed by the Hawks trading him or
Tray Young isn't quite Portland taking Sam Booie over Michael Jordan.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
But it's pretty damn close.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
No, Fugazy is worse. It's worse. There you go. Okay,
look at that dude. You had your hands on him.
He was he had him HadAM And.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
Oh, by the way, Sam Bowie was thought of as
you know, he was hurt because the injuries obviously derailed him.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Dude, the Sons had his coach.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Oh sorry, I will say Bobby Knight though in nineteen
eighty four called Michael Jordan the best player in the
world and he was in college.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Maybe they should listen, listen to the.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
General Sons hired his coach and then draft.
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And Raheem Palmer joins the program. Now he loves the NBA,
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he loves to fire. He's on the Progressive guest line.
He's with the Ringer dot Com. The one hundred part
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website as well in the Ringer Gambling podcast as well. Rahem,
great to talk to you, man, How are you great
to see?
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Great spit you as well. I'm very excited right now.
Got the in game playoffs coming up, So the best
time of the year right now.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
Do you have a bet on the first play in
game tonight, which is the Lakers on the road against
the Pelicans. Of course, the Lakers went to New Orleans
on Sunday, blew their doors off, And now this number
has been kind of it's around the money line, so
it's not the biggest of deals obviously, but some spots
posting Pelicans still minus one. Others earlier this morning had
the Lakers minus one and a half. What are your
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thad on this game tonight?
Speaker 2 (24:01):
So this game is very interesting because a lot of
times you see those two game series during the course
of the regular season that started since the COVID season,
and you have teams playing back to back in the
same venue, and a lot of times you see an
over adjustment to the spread based on what happened in
the first game. So you're the first game, we had
the Pelicans minus three and the Lakers blew them out,
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and now you had the Lakers getting bet up to
a favorite. And now you're seeing sharp money start to
take the Pelicans because they're saying, how can that line
be three and the same venue, between the same teams
and the same players, and then come back and in
the line be Lakers minus one. So now you're seeing
the sharp money on the Pelicans. And look, there's a
little precedent for this. I don't know if you guys
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remember in twenty twenty one, the Golden State Warriors, they
played the Memphis Grizzlies on a Sunday, Steph Curry. You
look it up on YouTube. Steph Curry hit that big
three and he did the Baron Davis celebration. They've played
two days later and the Memphis Grizzlies not out the
Golden State Wars out of the playoffs. So I think
a lot of sharps are thinking that. But when I
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look at the matchup between these two teams, I think
it's just a bad matchup for the Pelicans. I mean,
Lebron James has absolutely dominated this team this year, twenty
eight point three points per game, sixty percent from three,
fifty five percent from the field, twelve twelve sister game,
six and a half rebounds and one and a half steals.
And if you look at the four games of which
the Pelicans have played the Lakers this year, they've had
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halfcar off with threeings of seventy four, ninety eight, one, fifteen,
and ninety two, and the only game that they won
was the game where they made eighteen threes. So I
might find myself on the Lakers today.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
What do you make of the questionable tag for Anthony Davis?
And where does this number snap back to once he's active?
For GHAM, because we see it all the time in
the regular season, right guys, questionable line moves maybe a
point half point one direction that snaps back when he's in.
What's the expectation for Davis today? You're thinking where the
line goes when he's active?
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Well, you see the Sharper books are sitting at two
in minus one and a half. I think you'll probably
get back to culser to a pick them, So this
probably closes either a pick them or minus one. But
I think I mean pick them is probably you'll probably
see the Sharper books at minus one, and then I
think you'll see every other book at a close will
pick them.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
Oh, you know what, guys, as we're talking about this,
CIRCA has Pelicans minus two right now against the.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Lakers Circa super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
I was going to say that, but I didn't know
if I was allowed to stay circle on.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
The guys are home by Draft Kings. We're all good.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
We're broadcasting live right now from the spot at What
about the other game that we have tonight? Now, money's
been coming in and the Warriors pretty much the entire time,
they're up to two and a half at most spots.
I do three, see a three here in Las Vegas,
that's at Station Casinos. But again here at CIRCA, they're
down to two. Do you have a bet on this game?
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Raheem?
Speaker 2 (26:39):
I don't have a bet on this game. But I
think the thing that stands out to me is I
think you're going to see the public all over the Warriors,
and I think you're going to see sharp money on
the King. I just think this game is very interesting
because obviously you look at the Kings. They're out Malik Monks,
they're out Kevin Herder. But I think with Kean Ellis
and Davion Mitchell, I think the defense gets a little better.
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You're looking at two teams who have really been locking
down defensively over the last couple of weeks and since
the Alsinberger. I think Kings are top ten and defensive
rates last two weeks, Warriors are at temph of defensive
rate and Kings are nine. But the the wild cart
in this matchup, and I think one of the reasons
to play the Warriors is that Demonsa's Tomotus, He's such
a big part of this King's team. Well, he's really
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struggled against the Warriors. He was minus forty nine against
the Warriors in the postseason. He was minus eighty four
against the Warriors during his career and minus eight against
the Warriors this season. He's only going to play more minutes,
and I think he's averaging fifteen point nine points per
game against Draymond Green for his career. So I got
to understand why the public gets all over the Warriors.
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But I think at this current price, you're looking at
minus three's in the market, I think that's a little
too steep. So I think you're gonna see sharp sharp
sharp money just grabbed the number on the Kings. But
I personally, I think this is an under I noticed
opened up at two twenty seven. I think you'll I mean,
I think it's two twenty four is probably a little
bit too high, especially when you consider that Monk and hurt.
Speaker 5 (28:04):
Or out raheem. Regular season matchups are obviously a little
bit different. These teams obviously played four times with each other.
But the big difference is Trace Jackson Davis only played
five total minutes in the four games he's now starting matchups.
He's been a big part of one of their betting
starting lineups. So how do you make the like, what
is the difference now with Trace Jackson Davis along with
Raymond Green in this front court? How much of a
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difference does he make? And how do you take away
anything from a regular season when there's such a big
change with the Warriors starting lineup.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Yeah, I don't think you can take much from it either,
And I think if you're using full season metrics, it's
kind of a mistake just based on how the Warriors
have played this season. I think the only thing that
you can really take from it, I mean, it's just
how well Draymond Green has played against the Bonus and
how much the Bonus has really struggled against this Warriors team,
so I definitely think that makes a huge IMPACT's.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
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Speaker 3 (28:59):
The ring Com is the website.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
He also is going to do the one hundred again
this year at the Ringer where he's going to give
out one hundred bets during the NBA playoffs and the
Ring of Gambling podcast as well. How about the games
that we have tomorrow night, JBT mentioned earlier he's probably
gonna take the Hawks again because he's you know, he's
like me. I was snake bitting with the Hawks this year,
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betting on them.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
They would lose.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
Betting against them, they would beat me. They're getting three
against the Bulls tomorrow night. Initial thoughts on this game Rahiem, So.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
I'm going to take the Hawks and I'm waiting for
the public to bet this up and I'm hoping it
goes up. A lot of people are all on the Bulls.
I hadn't spoken to one person who said they like
the Bulls in this matchup. And for me, if if
you look at the Bulls this year, they played forty
four Cutch games and we all know how NBA dot
Com the defonse Cutch games games were the game is
in the last five minutes of the game with the
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points of virtual is five or less. They're twenty seven
and seventeen against the Clutch with the net rating of
twenty three and a half. But we know there's a
lot of variance today. But if you look at all
the Cutch games that they they're basically telling you that
this is going to be a one or two possession game.
That's all they played all this year. Now, when you
look at the Hawks, they've been lighting teams up from
three lately, and I know they haven't been good against
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this spread a year, but the Bulls are second in
opponent three point shooting percentage since the All Star Break
a lot when I'm a thirty eight percent from three
and twenty ninth in opponent three point shooting frequency. The
Hawks are top ten in both of those categories since
they also breaking you should thirty seven percent from three.
So I think they should be able to light up
this Bulls team from behind the art. And I think
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you got Trey Young back. I just think it's this
is this is a game where I think the Hawks
can hit more shots, and they played on April first.
This was one of my first picks for the one hundred.
Hawks won one thirteen, one oh one on the roll,
and they were eighteen of thirty eight from behind the art.
And then let's look at some trends. The Bulls are
eighteen and thirty eight twenty eighteen to twenty three against
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the spread. At home, they're just ten and ten to
fourteen and one as a home favorite this year, just
forty one percent, and they failed to cover three straight
at home and six out of their last seven at home.
So that tells me that the Bulls are they're just
being overvalue in this spot because people are looking at
the full season metrics on the Hawks. Before the All
Star Break, Hawks had a net rating of minus eight
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point seven. Post All Star Break, Hawks have a net
rating of minus one point four. So these are two
equally matched teams. But the Hawks are a better three
point shooting team, and we know this game's going to
come down to the clutch. So I'm taking the Hawks
here with the plus three and I'm hoping I can
get a better number.
Speaker 5 (31:34):
Yeah, I would agree with all those points, all right,
So let's go to your neck of the Woods. Then
Miami taken on Philadelphia rahiem four and a half. The
predominant number totals from two oh six and a half
up to two o eight, So you can get whatever
number you want here for the total. I believe in
your seventy six ers that think here in the spot
against Miami.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
What say you?
Speaker 2 (31:51):
I believe in the Philadelphia seventy six ers as well.
You're talking about a team that was sixteen to twenty
seven without Joelle ANDB net rating of minus three point
seven with Joel MB thirty one and eight net rating
of ten point five. So I mean with the two
games in which Joel eb has played against this Miami
eight team, they absolutely dominated. And I look at Tyrese Maxi.
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He's averaged twenty seven point three points per game against
the Heat this year, and he had a game in
which he had just twelve points. So for me, I'm
looking at Tyrese Maxi over twenty three and a half points. Now,
I think that line is short. If the Sixers are
going to win this game, it's going to be because
of Tyres Maxi and Joel and B. I think the
Sixers could have done with the four and a half.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
But I really like that MAXI problem uh rahem.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
We have a two minutes left in this segment, assuming
you're correct, they win this game. There the seventh seed
against the Knicks. What would you make a series price
on that? And would you like the Sixers chances to
win it?
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Outright?
Speaker 2 (32:47):
I would probably make it around And this one was
tough for me because I can't really model the Sixers
this year with you know, all of the yeah sures
of Joel ANDB. But it probably be around Knicks minus
one forty minus one if you're something like that. It's
just really tough for me to come up with a
line right now.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Okay, okay?
Speaker 4 (33:06):
Would you think over seven games though, and even the
season that Brunson had, I think that he deserves an
MBC MVP consideration, Not that he had to win, but
he should be in the mix. Is mb the best
player on that court U for a seven game series,
even though like the full health is maybe still a
little bit up in the air.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
I think Brunson is the best player at this point
in time, just because at least when it comes to
Joel and B you just don't know. I mean over
a course of a seven game series. You just I
mean we've seen him in the postseason struggle and now
I mean he's coming coming in off of him and
this injury. It's just really tough. I just think Jellen Brunson,
he should be first team or NBA, but we know
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it's probably not gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
Yep, all right, Hank Tight, We're gonna kick around some
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We'll get into the round one series prices that we
have if he didn't bet the Pelicans at this point.
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Actually that number is way way gone. Now, what do
you actually think there might be some value on the
bucks now that it's come down where it is and
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Speaker 1 (35:09):
He joins us here on the Progressive guest Line.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
So, Raheem, did you grab a little bit of a
Pacers series price against the Bucks before the Yiannis news
anticipating that he might not be ready for Game one?
And if you didn't, with the current change in that number,
do you actually think there might be some value on
the Bucks as low as it got.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
I do think there's some value on the Bucks at
this current number. I'm seeing like minus one fifty four
on the Bucks. But I think the biggest thing for
me is that I do want to wait to find
out this Gianna news, because you know he has the
same injury Kevin Durant had in twenty nineteen calf injury
towards I mean like it was a calf's strain, I believe,
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and Kevin Durant missed three weeks and when he came back,
he tore his achilles. I actually tore my calv back
in twenty twenty two and I'm not like a high
level athlete, but it had me down for quite a while.
So I think the biggest thing with the NBA these
days is that these teams like to you know, they
like to be secretive and have you game played for
multiple options. So there's a scenario where you know, in
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the Interpacers can go in there and beat the Bucks
in game one and then you're in a tough spot.
So I don't want to really grab anything right now.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Okay, fair enough.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
Is there a scenario here and I've seen this kicked around.
Maybe you believe in this where Giannis has turned into
kind of a boss opper on offense and with him out,
potentially here this could be Damian Lillard that we had
in Portland for so many years.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
See I want to believe it, but based on how
Damian Lillard has played this year, I'm having trouble believing that,
Like this game does not look like the same guy
at all. I mean, like you look at that game
against the Magic. The Magic, I mean, this guy was
two for fourteen for sixteen points, and that game meant something.
So like, I just I just don't know how you
trust this team right now. And it's just since the
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All Star Break, this team has just, I mean been
absolutely abysmal. You're talking about a team who lost to
the Wizards, they lost to the Raptors, they lost to
the Grizzlies, all at home in a row as double
digit favorite. So like, as much as there's value from
a numbers perspective, I need you got to show me something.
They're fourteen to twelve since the All Star Break net
rating of plus one and a half. So while there's
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value from just a numbers perspective, like, show me something first.
Speaker 5 (37:28):
So, Rahim, one of the things that I keep pointing
out here with this series is the changes for both teams.
Right since they last met Pascal Siakams down in Indiana, Pacer,
your favorite head coach, Doc Rivers is now in charge
of the Milwaukee Bucks. What are these changes mean? Because
if you look at some of the numbers for Indiana
posts to Siakam trade. They're slower, they don't run and
transition as much, They're not as effective in transition off
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of live rebounds, and frankly, since Tyre's Halliburton's come back
from injury, Rahiam he has not been the same in
any way, shape or form, especially with his efficiency numbers.
Are we still going to get the same team? That
would explo why did this Bucks team in transition the
way they did in those early games before January.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
I don't think we are, And I think that's where
the sharps. I mean, you're gonna see shars with that
argument for the Bucks here, because we all know playoff
basketball is in an entirely different game than the regular season,
and it's tough to imagine that a lot of what
Indiana did in the regular season is going to translate
into the postseason. And you got to remember, they don't
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have Hell, they don't have Maverick macnns out for the season.
They traded Hill, so the shooting is not going to
be the same. And then Halla Burton hasn't looked like
the same guy. So while they do have Siakam, it's
just tough to imagine that they're going to be able
to exploit this Bucks team in the same way. So
I'm still like sitting back and waiting. I think if
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you grab the Pacers with the earlier number, you're in
a really good spot. But at this point in time,
it's either Bucks or passed, and me personally, based on
what I've seen recently, I'm going to pass.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
You're gonna pass.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
Okay, which series price stick out the most to you
that's currently available on the betting board, I think it is.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
I mean, well, the Mavericks have already gotten that up.
I like the Mavericks, but I'm starting to like this
Orlando Magic team. And look we are yeah, because I mean, look,
my model likes the Magic and I look at this
Cavs team. We all know that they take down the
stretch to get the Cavaliers. I know the Magic can't score,
but they are top ten defense. And you look at
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the Calves versus top ten defenses this year nine to fifteen,
twenty fifth and spread differential minus three point four. And
since the All Star Break, you're talking about a team
who is just twelve and seventeen since the All Star break,
that rating of minus three point six twenty second a
months NBA teams, they're twenty for offensive rating and twenty
fifferent defensive rate. So Donovan Mitchell. Look, if you look,
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and this is the craziest stat I always laugh at
it every year, but if you look at like the
top ten scores in points per game in the postseason,
Donovan was like six or seven. But Donovan Mitchell is
not that same guy right now, Like he looks like
I mean, the worst kept secret in the league is
that he's on his way out. But also he's been
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dealing with a knee injury. He's played seven games since
the All Star breaks, so I don't think he's that
same guy. And I think if he's not that same guy,
with how this Cavs team has struggled against top ten defenses,
I think the Magic might be able to sneak this
out just based on their defense. And then imagine, you know,
Donovan Mitchell on a bum knee, has to deal with
with Suggs. This is one of the best perimeter defenses,
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I mean, defensive players in the league. So I'm definitely
taking the Magic plus four and a half of Game one,
and I kind of want to sprinkle something on them
to get getting this series done, because we all know
the basketball guys, they don't reward whatever the Calves did
the other day.
Speaker 5 (40:48):
Yeah, well, we've seen the Clippers get burned by that too,
So let's go there. Why in the world would you
bet against future NBA Finals champion Los Angeles Clippers in
the first round run?
Speaker 2 (40:58):
I mean the Clippers. Look, outside of that run this
Clippers team has, I mean, they've kind of looked like
a mess. And you look since the All Star break,
this Clippers team has not been the same. They're fifteen
and fourteen net ring of minus zero at half point.
I just think the Mavericks are rolling right now. We
know with that new start a lot of they've had
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one of the best defense in the league. And are
we sure Kawhi Leonard is healthy. They're very secretive about it,
and it's just like it wouldn't surprise me if Kawhi
Leonard miss game won, And I think you're kind of
getting a bargain on the Dallas Mavericks, who've been playing
lights out now. I think the counter argument against the
Dallas Mavericks is that they haven't really beaten too many
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teams above five hundred they're just twenty five and twenty
seven against teams above five hundred. But the way the
Clippers are playing, they're playing like a five hundred team.
So I think Luca like, look, what do they saying
to Guy five? Luca Brose sleeps with the Fishes. He's
sleeping with the Fishers the last two times he played
the Clippers. I don't think he's sleeping with the Fishes
this year. I think the Mavericks get it done. So
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even at minus one twenty, I'm seeing value on the Mavericks.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
Raheem who comes out of the West.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
It's it's very hard to say anybody but Denver. But
if it's not Denver, it's going to be the Mavericks,
it's actually gonna be the It's going to be the
winner of this MAVs Cup series.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
Oh it's not. That's good, we'll accept that. What do
you think of OKAC?
Speaker 3 (42:26):
Overall?
Speaker 2 (42:28):
I love OKC, but I just I think they're struggle.
They're going to struggle inside, and I think that's the
scary thing. Like I think if this was the league
like three years three, four years ago, when the Wards
were making a run where everybody was going small, that
would be great, but now you've got to have.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
Side to you.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
I don't think you're gonna be able to deal with
Let's just say that they played the Lakers, or they
played Minnesota, or they played Denver. I just think we
just haven't seen young teams perform like this in the
in the in the postseason, so I can't buy in
on them. But it wouldn't surprise me if they made
a deep run to the Western Conference finals. But at
some point, I don't think they have the experience.
Speaker 5 (43:07):
Iraen last two minutes with you here, I've kind of
figured we saw this coming. I was actually hoping Phoenix
would get Oklahoma City in the first round so I
could bet against them. Figured the market would very much
be all over the Suns. They're not favorites in the
series against Minnesota. Do you trust the Suns?
Speaker 2 (43:25):
This is a tough series. This is a very tough
series for me, just because all the models say take Minnesota,
but we know that this is a pretty bad matchup
for them. And if you look at the Wolves in
the clutch, they can't score in the clutch. And I
trust Bradley Bill, I trust Devin Booker, Kevin Durant. In
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the clutch to hit their shots. I think this is
a series where you just play on the zigxact theory.
I think whoever wins game one, you take them game two.
I think this is probably going to be a two
two series in a long series, so I'm going to
be looking to play like series long props. I think
Dot Rudy Gobert is going to have a monster series.
It's gonna be serious. There's any games where he's gonna
have double digit points and double digit rebounds. They're just
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going to destroy the sun that they're going to get
into foul trouble. So this is a long series and
that's how I'm going to try to play it.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
All right, very good.
Speaker 4 (44:15):
You can get Raheem's plays in the one hundred at
the Ringer dot com the Ringer Gambling podcast as well
follow him on x at I Am Roster Dramas. That
was awesome, Raheem, thanks much for the time, good luck
betting the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
Thanks for having me. I appreciate y'all.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
Ye be good.
Speaker 3 (44:30):
He joined us here in the progressive guest line right
the Twitter handle. You guys are in lockstep in a
lot of that stuff, except for his prediction of the Mavericks.
Speaker 5 (44:37):
Yeah, well, and I also think too what he's right
and the reason why this is gonna come back and
burn me. Let's play this over and over again with
a laugh track when it burns me. I'm trusting that
what the Clippers are saying is true and that Kawhi
Leonard is healthy.
Speaker 3 (44:55):
You're better than that, I trust me should be you
should be better.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
I should be better than that. The team that is
stively lied about his knee multiple times. Now, good luck pal, Yeah,
he was questionable with a torn aco.
Speaker 4 (45:06):
We'll get into the Nuggets up next with Chris Dempsey
Altitude Sports in Denver. If the Lakers win tonight, do
they give the Nuggets a better series than last year
when they were swept. Let's follow the money on vson
D Sports Putting Network.
Follow the Money. That's why I say you always follow. Yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
This is Follow the Money with Mitch Moss and Polly
Howard on VSON. Here we go.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
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Speaker 4 (00:15):
This show is brought to you by DraftKings Mitch Moss
along with Jonathan von tobol in for Paully Howard. This
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you today, plenty on the NBA with the playing games
beginning tonight, some adjusted numbers now with news that came
out yesterday. In this sport we'll get to fresh NFL
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draft props that we're going to discuss in fifteen minutes.
Good guests on the program, including Matt Humans with his
best bets for the NFL Draft and the NBA playing
games as well. And we do have this Lakers number
tonight JBT against the Pelicans. It's around the money line,
so it's really not that significant, but at DraftKings, for example,
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the Pelicans are a one point favorite at home tonight
against the Lakers. If you look around at other spots,
either in Las Vegas or National Sports books, you can
find it pick them and in fact, there is a
Lakers minus one and a half out there in this game.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
Wow, anthy end to day is questionable. Yeah, so that's
the real thing. And we see the market do this
all the time, right, which is all right. If Anthony Davis,
once he's ruled active, then you'll probably see that one
point bump toward the Los Angeles Lakers wherever it's at.
Obviously the spot is already one and a half. I
don't think you're gonna go to two and a half
because it'd be a pretty off market there. But it's
not going to be surprising where we're sitting as a pick,
and I wouldn't be surprised if this closes. Pick the
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Lakers minus one and you could really get involved whenever
you want. Pre flop one either way is not going
to make the biggest difference in the world. But the
more I've like kind of dove into this matchup, the
more I find it kind of hard not to come
in and back the Lakers, assuming that Anthony Davis is
going to play, and assuming that I want to say
yes because it's the play in and you don't want
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to play games with this injury report anymore, and if
he's going to be healthy to he's going to be
ready to go, and it would seem that the indications
are that he is healthy and ready to go. So
I'm going to kind of assume that you're going to
get ad out there and that this is eventually going
to close.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Pick Lakers, if I made Anthony Davis right now minus
two dollars to play in this game.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Tonight, would you bet the Yes, I would say yes,
you would bet two dollars.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
I know we were talking and kind of laughing about
the ability or the potential for the Lakers try to
thread the needle right, which is lose this game, then
play the losers the winner of the nine to ten matchup,
and try to get the Oklahoma City Thunder. The reality
is is that you don't want to put it up
to a one game elimination and that you want to
come in and win this matchup. So I do think
that you're going to put your best foot forward. I
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do think that Anthony Davis is going to play here,
So I would say yes, I think it's a fair
price that minus two hundred he plays.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
They just played on Sunday. Was never even a game
Lakers blew them out. Are we going to get a
repeat of that? Where are you at with Brandon Ingram
and his status overall?
Speaker 5 (02:55):
Well, his here's the thing, So he misses a bunch
of time and then of course he comes back at
the end of the year, not that you know, I
would say ready to go in terms of like the
health and the continuity. But to me, that's not the
biggest problem. So it's going over some of the things
for this matchup, and obviously, like the big thing that
sticks out, Mitch is what are you going to do
defensively here? So the Lakers in their three games sorts
could be their four games that they played against the
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New Orleans Pelicans, they got an offense rating a one
twenty four point one, So every one hundred possessions they're
scoring one hundred and twenty four point one points against
the Pelicans. And the real big issue and you saw
in that last game Jonas Valentunis only played seven minutes
in that last game against the Lakers. His by the way,
I think it's points and rebounds. I got a double check.
I was kind of half asleep and I was looking
up late last night. I think we're sitting in like
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eleven and a half. We don't know how long he's
going to be out there, and the reason is he's
kind of been a nightmare defensively for them. How about
a couple of numbers here, Anthony Davis in the four
games against Jonas Valentiunas twenty two points seven assists, nine
to fourteen from the floor. Lebron James eighteen points five assists,
seven to ten from the floor. That's what Jonas vallencunis
is a primary defender. You can't really do anything there.
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Zion Williamson has been having to defend the Lebron James
certain possessions.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Yeah, it's the same thing with Ruy Hatchmore.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
Ruy Hatchmore is a perfect seven to seven in this
series against Zion Williamson is a primary defender.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Lebron's been to the free throw and ten times.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
As Zion Williamson is a primary defender, what adjustments are
you making defensively that is going to change this thing
for you?
Speaker 1 (04:16):
If you're the New Orleans Pelicans.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Well, and we know that going in right, because again
this year for the Lakers, the discrepancy in shooting free
throws is heavily in their favor yep. And so if
they're going to play their basketball game and it's going
to be a typical Lakers refereid contest, they're probably going
to outshoot the Pelicans by a significant amount at the stripe.
And if they're hitting all those free throws, then they
are going to win this game. And if Ad plays,
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they are going to win this game. You the valen
Tunis then is just what's more likely to happen here.
He's a total non factor in the game, or he
doesn't even play. And when I say that, I mean
he's not going to get that many minutes.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
Yeah, I think you start him still, and he's played
in all of them, but their minus nineteen in the
four games with him on the floor. It's just not good.
So you start him. You try to do something with them.
Obviously you're in a little bit of a type bind
because Anthony Davis does like to play a little bit
like elbow extended. And then of course can use an
athleticism in those spots. It's not like a traditional post
up and use your size and you to me, you
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mentioned the biggest thing, which is the free throws. The
New Orleans Pelicans are tenth in free throw rate. They
make twenty point two free throws for every one hundred
shot attempts. It's the tenth best in the NBA. The Lakers.
The underrated thing about what the Los Angeles Lakers do.
It's not so much that they make as many free throws.
They're second in both offensive and defensive free throw rate.
So not only do they get a ton of free throws,
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they don't foul teams, or I guess we'll say they
don't foul teams.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
The referees don't bawl the whistle against the Lakers as
much as they do to every other team in the league.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Bab correct.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
And so when you can't, when you as a team
are dependent on that, but you can't get there while
the other team can consistently do it, it's absolutely nuts.
And when you look too, how about this this is
the big thing, and it goes back to again like
for me, that's why I keep going back to the Lakers,
because these physical matchups are always still there. In these
four games Mitch that they have played, forty point nine
percent of the Lakers attempts have come within four feet
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of the basket. They have shot seventy six percent on
those attempts.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Now, that is bonkers.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
They're just killing them inside. They're getting to the free
throw line, and you just you don't know what you're
gonna do because you have good to wing defenders like
Herb Jones is awesome. Herb Jones gives up like a
million pounds to Lebron James. Oh yeah, you're not gonna
hill contest, right. So like when I this is why
I like the playoffs so much, because you look at
these matchups, you go, what are you gonna do? How
are you going to adjust? And for me, there's not
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much adjustment you're doing here in this series that's going
to change what has been going wrong for you to
the first four games.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
What if we get absolute peak a plus game out
of Zion Williamson Me, it could be. I mean, then
he goes for thirty five eight rebounds in ten assists.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
Then I think you're looking to play this thing over
because I don't. I don't think there's a reality in
which you're stopping the Lakers like Lebron again is matching
up with Zion pretty frequently in this matchup. You're not
feeling comfortable putting Zion pretty much anywhere else you could
put him in that role of kind of like a
roving defender, but he's not like a Rudy Gobert or
anybody else that's gonna come over and tightly can test
some shots. So maybe this thing goes over the total,
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but that's what you're looking for. You're also looking, of course,
if that's going to be the case. You're getting a
three throw line a little bit more than you were
in this series against the Lakers. But I think that's
really the only change here because I don't think there's
a reality because here's the thing, Like in the four games,
if the Lakers just bombing away from three, then you're like, okay, cool,
maybe in one off you're gonna be able to kind
of get some good shooting regression. They're not going to
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hit those shots.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
But when you're giving.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
Up shots within four feet of the basket that regularly
against this team, that's not changing. When you get back
to another game here, even if it's on your own floor.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Do people need to tread lightly betting this game live tonight?
The thought is here because it basically is around to
pick them that you're going to potentially get a much
better number than this on either side because runs happen
in the NBA. But what about if let's say either
team gets out to a fifteen point second quarter lead,
or they're leading by doubles in a third quarter. Could
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could the team that's losing at some point decide, you
know what, we lose this one, We're gonna punt on
the rest of this game, we have one more I'll
set my guys here, and you want to be careful
with maybe watching how they're gonna do what they're gonna
do with the rotations.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
That could that be in play?
Speaker 5 (08:10):
I mean, I think it is, but I don't think
it's in play until late in the fourth quarter. Late
in the fourth quarter because, like, as we kind of
discussed here, like if you're the Lakers and for whatever reason,
you find yourself in the fourth quarter with like two
and a half minutes left, you know, two minutes left
and you're down by like thirteen points, do you give
it like one more possession and if you can't get that.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Three or whatever it is, do you pull the plug?
Speaker 5 (08:30):
Because not only do you have one more shot at
this whoever's gonna win the late game, there's also the
added benefit of you know, if we win that game,
we get the much more favorable matchup there in the
Oklahoma City Thunder, and then, by the way, we get
the winner of LA and Dallas, so that would be
a fascinating matchup for them as well. So the path
just becomes a little bit more easier. So I think
that's kind of the worry. But I still think, like
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first half, I wouldn't be shy about doing what you
usually do in NBA games. Like you said, it's a
one point spread. Oh, if the Pelicans go up six nothing,
you're gonna get a pretty solid number here.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
What you want, like if you're if you're if that's
your plan, you want like sixteen five out of the gates? Yeah,
time out? Okay, what's the new line? I'm going to
come and bet the Lakers at that point. I would
also flip it though, and say the Pelicans, I mean,
could the writing be on the wall early for this team?
They just got blown out again against the Lakers on Sunday,
Ingram has not, I mean, he was hurt for a while,
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recently came back, and they could look at it as well,
we do.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Have another home game here, suh.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Yeah, I mean that would be the team that would
want to probably stay away from grabbing a big number
getting blown out.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
I think so.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
And by the way too, I mean it's just the
mental aspect of it, right, which is great. Here we
go again. The Lakers go up like sixteen to five
immediately in this matchup. If if you're the Pelicans, where
are you at mentally?
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Well, even if it's like sixty two forty three at
halftime or something where it's totally lopsided, what.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Are you going to get in the second half?
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Man?
Speaker 1 (09:51):
I remember I was there.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
I was so excited to watch this ind season tournament
game between them and the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Left after the second quarter. It was like that this
is a the there's no need to be here.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Yeah, they're again run off the floor and again you
see that, you know, big matchup. Obviously, everything on the
line for the Pelicans. You know, you got to get
out of the play in you get ramped up and
ready to go. I mean they essentially played this game
that was a playoff game for both those teams at
the end of the regular season.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Yep. And that's what transpired. It was an absolute slaughter.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
I will point out that the public they are six
and ten ats playing the playing games, and tonight the
Lakers at DraftKings sixty eight percent of the handle, seventy
four percent of the bets, and in the Lake game
the Warriors now bumped up to three. At some spots,
they're getting ninety two percent of the handle at draft kings,
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seventy seven percent of the bets.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
I mean, look, he's intered to those six and ten.
There's six covers in there. They're right sometimes right. So
I just when there's so many mismatches that go in
favor of one side and it's not reliant on shooting
from distance things like that, I find it hard to Obviously,
the looming thing is whether Anthony Davis is going to play,
But if you give me both of them, I find
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it hard to really come off of the side of
the Lakers here.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Side note, there is also a massive game tonight in
the NHL for Atlantic Division futures. Because the Bruins lost
last night. It's up for grabs. It's either the Bruins
or the Panthers to win it tonight. The Bruins win
the Atlantic one of three different ways. If they beat
Ottawa tonight, Florida has to lose against Toronto and regulation
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or Boston and Florida both lose their games in overtime,
then Boston will win.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
If it comes down to a tie.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Florida owns the tiebreaker tonight, so and Florida was a
massive number to win this division.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Earlier on in the season, craziness NFL.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Draft up next Circa released all their props yesterday.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
It was crazy with the four and a half quarterbacks.
Speaker 6 (11:57):
Mitch Mass and Paul Howard are here to make you
a friend of ours. That would be a mad guy
investigating what is and isn't legit fugazy all right, seeing
through the lines to make you a better better I
know you know, and I know you know, I know
you the FtM Army is being sent for an odd thing.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
You get sent for.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
You're going alive and you'll come out then.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
And it's your best friend.
Speaker 6 (12:22):
That these two wise guys would never steer you wrong.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Forget about it.
Speaker 6 (12:27):
This is real or fugazy on follow the money.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Mitch Moss along with Jonathan von Tubble here he's in
this week for Paulie Howard. You were born when nineteen
ninety Donnie Brasco was made in nineteen ninety seven.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Okay, I can watch it.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Okay, so you've never heard of it?
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Is my guest, No, no shot nothing, Donnie Brasco.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
In my opinion, the most underrated mob movie of all time.
It's never talked about when people get into that conversation
of best Mafia movies on X. Let jab know how
badly he needs to watch this movie. He's at me, JVT,
I'm to watch it. Johnny Depp is incredible, Paccino's fantastic.
That's for Gayzy, forget about you know all of that.
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So that's where that movie is. I don't know somehow
it's it's I've watched it probably ten times. In every
single it's based on a true story.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
For audience too, I'm very anti watching movies that came
out before the year I was born, so production values
just garbage.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
You have to appreciate it for what it was like
back then.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Terrible.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
Okay, all right, If under four and a half quarterbacks
in the first round is a losing bet, it's because
of Michael Pennox and not bow Nix.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Is that real or for Gazy that's real? It's not.
I don't think Nix is the better quarterback. Pennix is
the better quarterback.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
And if I were to lose under four and a
half quarterbacks, I would prefer that it is Michael Pennox
who sneaks into.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
The first round.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Are you almost saying that you're okay with it losing
to Michael Penox?
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (13:57):
If I lose because bow Knicks went in the first
round and not Micha Pennix, no, no shot.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
How about this idea?
Speaker 4 (14:02):
So you bet the under at a nice plus price?
Are you thinking about maybe getting off of that a
little bit by adding Pennix to go in the first
round as kind of a safety net, because you can
They're both plus money and you're not going to get
I mean, you can't win both bets, obviously, but I could.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
I'm also very greedy and think that I'm right, and
so I might just roll with this thing.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Hedging discussion coming up in about twelve minutes.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
By the way, judging a college quarterbacks level of success
in the NFL is not an easy way to make
a living.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Is that real or fugazy? Oh?
Speaker 1 (14:34):
It's real. I mean, you look at it. So.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
Bucky Brooks had an awesome tweet about like a month
ago of the I think it's like the last three seasons,
but of like the last nineteen quarterbacks drafted, only two
are expected to start Week one.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
This coming season.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
I think that's that's how hard this is in terms
of evaluate some of these quarterbacks and developing.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Yeah, I actually leaned towards being negative about their futures,
just because I've been around and watch this thing for
so long. In fact, I retweeted a bit yesterday it
was cold takes what is it called creasing?
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Cold Takes?
Speaker 4 (15:05):
On X they did a compilation of some of the
NFL draft was basically a montage of hot takes and
opinions on ESPN and other networks over the years, and
how just severely wrong they were on these quarterbacks. But
I mean, some guys are going to be really good,
other guys are not. I would actually say that the
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miss percentage is much higher on these guys than the
hip percentage. And I don't like coming out. I used
to have a strong opinion on all these guys one
way or the other. Now if I have a strong opinion,
it's going to be on a guy can't play, not
that a guy's going to be unbelievable, because I've seen
it too happen too often where these can't miss prospects
are rarely ever can't miss.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Yeah, you know how.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Many guys have lived up to the hype.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
It happens all of the time with every single one
of these guys. And that's why I do think too,
we're starting to see the shift a little bit where
it's like, I don't need to spend that first round
pick and try to capture this if I don't have
the first overall selection, let me try to go. We'leve
a second round. Let me try to go and grab
these guys a little bit later, and if they develop,
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they develop, But if they don't, I at least drafted
a stud edge rusher or an offensive lineman or a
guy who's going to be there past his first contract.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
That will help me out here.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
And it's much much easier to move on from a third, fourth,
fifth round pick at quarterback. Yeah, then it is if
you take him number one overall, top five, top ten,
wherever that might be in the first round.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
And it goes back to so I know a lot
of people like the whole thought of Hey, extra year control.
It's hard to leave your team regardless if you're a
guy who's a quarterback who's going to be a signal caller.
That's the franchise guy. You're gonna get your contract, regardless
of what's gonna happen. They can slap a franchise tag
it whatever it is. So I don't think that that's
that attractive of a caveat for the first round.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
If I get a guy, I'm gonna sign him. I'm
gonna give him his money.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
It doesn't matter, right, Like, would I be stunned if
Caleb Williams is a flop?
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Yeah, I will be surprised.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
But is he expected to go in there and play
like Andrew luck did when he was a prospect that
was going to be can't miss or a Peyton Manning.
That's those are pretty lofty expectations at a very high
level for him to reach. And on the flip side,
will I be surprised if Daniels may McCarthy and don't
work out?
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Not at all.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
In fact, I would expect it and lean that way
that they're not going to be able to translate to
the NFL level again, because so many guys have come
out with look at what they did in college.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
They were unbelievable at that level.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
Power five Conference did it for three years and then
could all of this stuff JJ McCarthy might turn out
to be really good pro I'm convinced that people who
are in his quarter and fighting that fight, screaming and
yelling from the mountain on top. So he's got to
go number two overall or he's the best quarterback in
this class behind they want to be.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
I told you so guy more than anything else.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Oh yeah, one d per. I've been there since the beginning.
I knew.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
I told you I always feel like to when party
your cat, when part of your cell is that he
was really good in high school.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
It's a little cool, great, terrific. It's like one of
those like you know, how is he as a players?
Like he's a really nice guy? Like well, it's not
what I'm asking.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
They're trying to extrapolate small moments in time from McCarthy
as the quarterback in a run heavy offense, in a situation,
maybe even against bad teams in the Big ten. Look
at this play on third down and eleven where McCarthy
noticed the heat coming and he scrambled out and he
made this throw. That's great. It happened a handful of
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times in the college level. Does that mean he's going
to be a franchise quarterback for ten years in the NFL.
Not necessarily, it would leap in my opinion. I also
watched them almost give away the game against Maryland. No kidding, Yeah,
it's a major disappointment if the Boston Celtics do not
win the Eastern Conference real or fugazy oh real?
Speaker 5 (18:55):
I like their their win total, their lost total should
be three and a half. And again this is specifically
Eastern Conference. This thing is setting up for them so nicely.
Giannis is injured. They could get eliminated by the Indiana Pacers. Sure,
maybe you get like I think the heavyweight matchup. If
the seventy six ers right lose this game win the
eight seed Joel Embi could go nuts. But the way
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this thing is setting up for them, it is dude,
you know, ask er get off the pot, like this
is the time. You better not mess around the fact
that you were down three nothing last year to Miami
Heat was unacceptable as you saw what happened to them
in the finals. You need to get this done now.
This year you're better. You have Drew Holiday, you have
christopspersingas the Eastern Conference around you.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Low key kind of stinks this thing.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
You better make this thing out absolutely on paper numbers wise,
they are the twenty seventeen Warriors.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Yes, and it has to show out on the court
this year.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
And if it doesn't, if they do not come out
of the Eastern Conference, what does it mean from Missoula
moving forward? And then what they're gonna sign Jason Tatum
and give him more than three hundred They're gonna have
six hundred million tight end to Tatum and Jalen Brown.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Just give Drew Holiday contract.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Yeah, tons of mone.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
Yep, No, I agree like this is this would be
a massive disappointment.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
If they don't make this thing out. Oh, it's beyond upset.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
Yes, like, no, they can, but that's part part of
the problem. And I wrote about this in the NBA Primer, which,
by the way, check it out Abson dot com. You know,
one of the big things for them is the last
two years you in the postseason, you have had an
extremely negative net rating in clutch time. You have not
been able to operate in the postseason in these games
that are within five points.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Yeah, that's got to change.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
You've got to stop just taking the gun and just
boom shooting yourself with the foot over and over and
over again. Those things can't happen with the improvements. It shouldn't.
But like, that's kind of why this has also been
so disappointing. It's not that they've run into these buzzsaws
like these great teams now, No, they've run into themselves
like that cannot happen anymore.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
They go into hero ball yep and clutch time. It's
the exact opposite of what makes the team brilliant done offense.
I got to get a Fugazian here at some point,
maybe this will be the one people bashing Okay, see
and by the way, there was plenty of it yesterday
and on Sunday night. Clearly did not watch and play
this year real or Fugazy clearly.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
Did not play. So my answer, if I would say Fugazy,
what I'm saying that those people bashing them are right there? Yes,
so no, So that's real thing, that's real.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
I can't get a fogate Okay, all right, all.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Right, I mean he means you know why who's bashing him?
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (21:14):
I was up and down there.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
I'm listening to national radio yesterday outside of v SIN,
I'm watching stuff on TV. It's just like people are
going to be so disappointed in Okay, see yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Mean this goes to the point where this is about
the time where a lot of people.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
Just kind of check in swoop in pretty much yet right,
But no, if you if you didn't watch, they were incredible.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
No, I got what you got. I'll give you Fugaze
at some point, what are we doing? I got one
more dialed up for you.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
The Sons and Kings passing a Luca in the twenty
eighteen NBA Draft, followed by the Hawks trading him or
Tray Young isn't quite Portland taking Sam Booie over Michael Jordan.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
But it's pretty damn close.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
No, Fugazy is worse. It's worse. There you go. Okay,
look at that dude. You had your hands on him.
He was he had him HadAM And.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
Oh, by the way, Sam Bowie was thought of as
you know, he was hurt because the injuries obviously derailed him.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Dude, the Sons had his coach.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Oh sorry, I will say Bobby Knight though in nineteen
eighty four called Michael Jordan the best player in the
world and he was in college.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Maybe they should listen, listen to the.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
General Sons hired his coach and then draft.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
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And Raheem Palmer joins the program. Now he loves the NBA,
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he loves to fire. He's on the Progressive guest line.
He's with the Ringer dot Com. The one hundred part
of one hundred plays in the NBA Playoffs at the
website as well in the Ringer Gambling podcast as well. Rahem,
great to talk to you, man, How are you great
to see?
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Great spit you as well. I'm very excited right now.
Got the in game playoffs coming up, So the best
time of the year right now.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
Do you have a bet on the first play in
game tonight, which is the Lakers on the road against
the Pelicans. Of course, the Lakers went to New Orleans
on Sunday, blew their doors off, And now this number
has been kind of it's around the money line, so
it's not the biggest of deals obviously, but some spots
posting Pelicans still minus one. Others earlier this morning had
the Lakers minus one and a half. What are your
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thad on this game tonight?
Speaker 2 (24:01):
So this game is very interesting because a lot of
times you see those two game series during the course
of the regular season that started since the COVID season,
and you have teams playing back to back in the
same venue, and a lot of times you see an
over adjustment to the spread based on what happened in
the first game. So you're the first game, we had
the Pelicans minus three and the Lakers blew them out,
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and now you had the Lakers getting bet up to
a favorite. And now you're seeing sharp money start to
take the Pelicans because they're saying, how can that line
be three and the same venue, between the same teams
and the same players, and then come back and in
the line be Lakers minus one. So now you're seeing
the sharp money on the Pelicans. And look, there's a
little precedent for this. I don't know if you guys
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remember in twenty twenty one, the Golden State Warriors, they
played the Memphis Grizzlies on a Sunday, Steph Curry. You
look it up on YouTube. Steph Curry hit that big
three and he did the Baron Davis celebration. They've played
two days later and the Memphis Grizzlies not out the
Golden State Wars out of the playoffs. So I think
a lot of sharps are thinking that. But when I
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look at the matchup between these two teams, I think
it's just a bad matchup for the Pelicans. I mean,
Lebron James has absolutely dominated this team this year, twenty
eight point three points per game, sixty percent from three,
fifty five percent from the field, twelve twelve sister game,
six and a half rebounds and one and a half steals.
And if you look at the four games of which
the Pelicans have played the Lakers this year, they've had
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halfcar off with threeings of seventy four, ninety eight, one, fifteen,
and ninety two, and the only game that they won
was the game where they made eighteen threes. So I
might find myself on the Lakers today.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
What do you make of the questionable tag for Anthony Davis?
And where does this number snap back to once he's active?
For GHAM, because we see it all the time in
the regular season, right guys, questionable line moves maybe a
point half point one direction that snaps back when he's in.
What's the expectation for Davis today? You're thinking where the
line goes when he's active?
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Well, you see the Sharper books are sitting at two
in minus one and a half. I think you'll probably
get back to culser to a pick them, So this
probably closes either a pick them or minus one. But
I think I mean pick them is probably you'll probably
see the Sharper books at minus one, and then I
think you'll see every other book at a close will
pick them.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
Oh, you know what, guys, as we're talking about this,
CIRCA has Pelicans minus two right now against the.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Lakers Circa super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
I was going to say that, but I didn't know
if I was allowed to stay circle on.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
The guys are home by Draft Kings. We're all good.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
We're broadcasting live right now from the spot at What
about the other game that we have tonight? Now, money's
been coming in and the Warriors pretty much the entire time,
they're up to two and a half at most spots.
I do three, see a three here in Las Vegas,
that's at Station Casinos. But again here at CIRCA, they're
down to two. Do you have a bet on this game?
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Raheem?
Speaker 2 (26:39):
I don't have a bet on this game. But I
think the thing that stands out to me is I
think you're going to see the public all over the Warriors,
and I think you're going to see sharp money on
the King. I just think this game is very interesting
because obviously you look at the Kings. They're out Malik Monks,
they're out Kevin Herder. But I think with Kean Ellis
and Davion Mitchell, I think the defense gets a little better.
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You're looking at two teams who have really been locking
down defensively over the last couple of weeks and since
the Alsinberger. I think Kings are top ten and defensive
rates last two weeks, Warriors are at temph of defensive
rate and Kings are nine. But the the wild cart
in this matchup, and I think one of the reasons
to play the Warriors is that Demonsa's Tomotus, He's such
a big part of this King's team. Well, he's really
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struggled against the Warriors. He was minus forty nine against
the Warriors in the postseason. He was minus eighty four
against the Warriors during his career and minus eight against
the Warriors this season. He's only going to play more minutes,
and I think he's averaging fifteen point nine points per
game against Draymond Green for his career. So I got
to understand why the public gets all over the Warriors.
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But I think at this current price, you're looking at
minus three's in the market, I think that's a little
too steep. So I think you're gonna see sharp sharp
sharp money just grabbed the number on the Kings. But
I personally, I think this is an under I noticed
opened up at two twenty seven. I think you'll I mean,
I think it's two twenty four is probably a little
bit too high, especially when you consider that Monk and hurt.
Speaker 5 (28:04):
Or out raheem. Regular season matchups are obviously a little
bit different. These teams obviously played four times with each other.
But the big difference is Trace Jackson Davis only played
five total minutes in the four games he's now starting matchups.
He's been a big part of one of their betting
starting lineups. So how do you make the like, what
is the difference now with Trace Jackson Davis along with
Raymond Green in this front court? How much of a
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difference does he make? And how do you take away
anything from a regular season when there's such a big
change with the Warriors starting lineup.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Yeah, I don't think you can take much from it either,
And I think if you're using full season metrics, it's
kind of a mistake just based on how the Warriors
have played this season. I think the only thing that
you can really take from it, I mean, it's just
how well Draymond Green has played against the Bonus and
how much the Bonus has really struggled against this Warriors team,
so I definitely think that makes a huge IMPACT's.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
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The ring Com is the website.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
He also is going to do the one hundred again
this year at the Ringer where he's going to give
out one hundred bets during the NBA playoffs and the
Ring of Gambling podcast as well. How about the games
that we have tomorrow night, JBT mentioned earlier he's probably
gonna take the Hawks again because he's you know, he's
like me. I was snake bitting with the Hawks this year,
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betting on them.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
They would lose.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
Betting against them, they would beat me. They're getting three
against the Bulls tomorrow night. Initial thoughts on this game Rahiem, So.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
I'm going to take the Hawks and I'm waiting for
the public to bet this up and I'm hoping it
goes up. A lot of people are all on the Bulls.
I hadn't spoken to one person who said they like
the Bulls in this matchup. And for me, if if
you look at the Bulls this year, they played forty
four Cutch games and we all know how NBA dot
Com the defonse Cutch games games were the game is
in the last five minutes of the game with the
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points of virtual is five or less. They're twenty seven
and seventeen against the Clutch with the net rating of
twenty three and a half. But we know there's a
lot of variance today. But if you look at all
the Cutch games that they they're basically telling you that
this is going to be a one or two possession game.
That's all they played all this year. Now, when you
look at the Hawks, they've been lighting teams up from
three lately, and I know they haven't been good against
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this spread a year, but the Bulls are second in
opponent three point shooting percentage since the All Star Break
a lot when I'm a thirty eight percent from three
and twenty ninth in opponent three point shooting frequency. The
Hawks are top ten in both of those categories since
they also breaking you should thirty seven percent from three.
So I think they should be able to light up
this Bulls team from behind the art. And I think
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you got Trey Young back. I just think it's this
is this is a game where I think the Hawks
can hit more shots, and they played on April first.
This was one of my first picks for the one hundred.
Hawks won one thirteen, one oh one on the roll,
and they were eighteen of thirty eight from behind the art.
And then let's look at some trends. The Bulls are
eighteen and thirty eight twenty eighteen to twenty three against
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the spread. At home, they're just ten and ten to
fourteen and one as a home favorite this year, just
forty one percent, and they failed to cover three straight
at home and six out of their last seven at home.
So that tells me that the Bulls are they're just
being overvalue in this spot because people are looking at
the full season metrics on the Hawks. Before the All
Star Break, Hawks had a net rating of minus eight
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point seven. Post All Star Break, Hawks have a net
rating of minus one point four. So these are two
equally matched teams. But the Hawks are a better three
point shooting team, and we know this game's going to
come down to the clutch. So I'm taking the Hawks
here with the plus three and I'm hoping I can
get a better number.
Speaker 5 (31:34):
Yeah, I would agree with all those points, all right,
So let's go to your neck of the Woods. Then
Miami taken on Philadelphia rahiem four and a half. The
predominant number totals from two oh six and a half
up to two o eight, So you can get whatever
number you want here for the total. I believe in
your seventy six ers that think here in the spot
against Miami.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
What say you?
Speaker 2 (31:51):
I believe in the Philadelphia seventy six ers as well.
You're talking about a team that was sixteen to twenty
seven without Joelle ANDB net rating of minus three point
seven with Joel MB thirty one and eight net rating
of ten point five. So I mean with the two
games in which Joel eb has played against this Miami
eight team, they absolutely dominated. And I look at Tyrese Maxi.
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He's averaged twenty seven point three points per game against
the Heat this year, and he had a game in
which he had just twelve points. So for me, I'm
looking at Tyrese Maxi over twenty three and a half points. Now,
I think that line is short. If the Sixers are
going to win this game, it's going to be because
of Tyres Maxi and Joel and B. I think the
Sixers could have done with the four and a half.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
But I really like that MAXI problem uh rahem.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
We have a two minutes left in this segment, assuming
you're correct, they win this game. There the seventh seed
against the Knicks. What would you make a series price
on that? And would you like the Sixers chances to
win it?
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Outright?
Speaker 2 (32:47):
I would probably make it around And this one was
tough for me because I can't really model the Sixers
this year with you know, all of the yeah sures
of Joel ANDB. But it probably be around Knicks minus
one forty minus one if you're something like that. It's
just really tough for me to come up with a
line right now.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Okay, okay?
Speaker 4 (33:06):
Would you think over seven games though, and even the
season that Brunson had, I think that he deserves an
MBC MVP consideration, Not that he had to win, but
he should be in the mix. Is mb the best
player on that court U for a seven game series,
even though like the full health is maybe still a
little bit up in the air.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
I think Brunson is the best player at this point
in time, just because at least when it comes to
Joel and B you just don't know. I mean over
a course of a seven game series. You just I
mean we've seen him in the postseason struggle and now
I mean he's coming coming in off of him and
this injury. It's just really tough. I just think Jellen Brunson,
he should be first team or NBA, but we know
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it's probably not gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
Yep, all right, Hank Tight, We're gonna kick around some
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We'll get into the round one series prices that we
have if he didn't bet the Pelicans at this point.
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Actually that number is way way gone. Now, what do
you actually think there might be some value on the
bucks now that it's come down where it is and
they're laying around minus one seventy. We'll get his thoughts
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over the course of the entire thing.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
He joins us here on the Progressive guest Line.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
So, Raheem, did you grab a little bit of a
Pacers series price against the Bucks before the Yiannis news
anticipating that he might not be ready for Game one?
And if you didn't, with the current change in that number,
do you actually think there might be some value on
the Bucks as low as it got.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
I do think there's some value on the Bucks at
this current number. I'm seeing like minus one fifty four
on the Bucks. But I think the biggest thing for
me is that I do want to wait to find
out this Gianna news, because you know he has the
same injury Kevin Durant had in twenty nineteen calf injury
towards I mean like it was a calf's strain, I believe,
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and Kevin Durant missed three weeks and when he came back,
he tore his achilles. I actually tore my calv back
in twenty twenty two and I'm not like a high
level athlete, but it had me down for quite a while.
So I think the biggest thing with the NBA these
days is that these teams like to you know, they
like to be secretive and have you game played for
multiple options. So there's a scenario where you know, in
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the Interpacers can go in there and beat the Bucks
in game one and then you're in a tough spot.
So I don't want to really grab anything right now.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Okay, fair enough.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
Is there a scenario here and I've seen this kicked around.
Maybe you believe in this where Giannis has turned into
kind of a boss opper on offense and with him out,
potentially here this could be Damian Lillard that we had
in Portland for so many years.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
See I want to believe it, but based on how
Damian Lillard has played this year, I'm having trouble believing that,
Like this game does not look like the same guy
at all. I mean, like you look at that game
against the Magic. The Magic, I mean, this guy was
two for fourteen for sixteen points, and that game meant something.
So like, I just I just don't know how you
trust this team right now. And it's just since the
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All Star Break, this team has just, I mean been
absolutely abysmal. You're talking about a team who lost to
the Wizards, they lost to the Raptors, they lost to
the Grizzlies, all at home in a row as double
digit favorite. So like, as much as there's value from
a numbers perspective, I need you got to show me something.
They're fourteen to twelve since the All Star Break net
rating of plus one and a half. So while there's
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value from just a numbers perspective, like, show me something first.
Speaker 5 (37:28):
So, Rahim, one of the things that I keep pointing
out here with this series is the changes for both teams.
Right since they last met Pascal Siakams down in Indiana, Pacer,
your favorite head coach, Doc Rivers is now in charge
of the Milwaukee Bucks. What are these changes mean? Because
if you look at some of the numbers for Indiana
posts to Siakam trade. They're slower, they don't run and
transition as much, They're not as effective in transition off
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of live rebounds, and frankly, since Tyre's Halliburton's come back
from injury, Rahiam he has not been the same in
any way, shape or form, especially with his efficiency numbers.
Are we still going to get the same team? That
would explo why did this Bucks team in transition the
way they did in those early games before January.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
I don't think we are, And I think that's where
the sharps. I mean, you're gonna see shars with that
argument for the Bucks here, because we all know playoff
basketball is in an entirely different game than the regular season,
and it's tough to imagine that a lot of what
Indiana did in the regular season is going to translate
into the postseason. And you got to remember, they don't
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have Hell, they don't have Maverick macnns out for the season.
They traded Hill, so the shooting is not going to
be the same. And then Halla Burton hasn't looked like
the same guy. So while they do have Siakam, it's
just tough to imagine that they're going to be able
to exploit this Bucks team in the same way. So
I'm still like sitting back and waiting. I think if
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you grab the Pacers with the earlier number, you're in
a really good spot. But at this point in time,
it's either Bucks or passed, and me personally, based on
what I've seen recently, I'm going to pass.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
You're gonna pass.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
Okay, which series price stick out the most to you
that's currently available on the betting board, I think it is.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
I mean, well, the Mavericks have already gotten that up.
I like the Mavericks, but I'm starting to like this
Orlando Magic team. And look we are yeah, because I mean, look,
my model likes the Magic and I look at this
Cavs team. We all know that they take down the
stretch to get the Cavaliers. I know the Magic can't score,
but they are top ten defense. And you look at
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the Calves versus top ten defenses this year nine to fifteen,
twenty fifth and spread differential minus three point four. And
since the All Star Break, you're talking about a team
who is just twelve and seventeen since the All Star break,
that rating of minus three point six twenty second a
months NBA teams, they're twenty for offensive rating and twenty
fifferent defensive rate. So Donovan Mitchell. Look, if you look,
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and this is the craziest stat I always laugh at
it every year, but if you look at like the
top ten scores in points per game in the postseason,
Donovan was like six or seven. But Donovan Mitchell is
not that same guy right now, Like he looks like
I mean, the worst kept secret in the league is
that he's on his way out. But also he's been
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dealing with a knee injury. He's played seven games since
the All Star breaks, so I don't think he's that
same guy. And I think if he's not that same guy,
with how this Cavs team has struggled against top ten defenses,
I think the Magic might be able to sneak this
out just based on their defense. And then imagine, you know,
Donovan Mitchell on a bum knee, has to deal with
with Suggs. This is one of the best perimeter defenses,
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I mean, defensive players in the league. So I'm definitely
taking the Magic plus four and a half of Game one,
and I kind of want to sprinkle something on them
to get getting this series done, because we all know
the basketball guys, they don't reward whatever the Calves did
the other day.
Speaker 5 (40:48):
Yeah, well, we've seen the Clippers get burned by that too,
So let's go there. Why in the world would you
bet against future NBA Finals champion Los Angeles Clippers in
the first round run?
Speaker 2 (40:58):
I mean the Clippers. Look, outside of that run this
Clippers team has, I mean, they've kind of looked like
a mess. And you look since the All Star break,
this Clippers team has not been the same. They're fifteen
and fourteen net ring of minus zero at half point.
I just think the Mavericks are rolling right now. We
know with that new start a lot of they've had
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one of the best defense in the league. And are
we sure Kawhi Leonard is healthy. They're very secretive about it,
and it's just like it wouldn't surprise me if Kawhi
Leonard miss game won, And I think you're kind of
getting a bargain on the Dallas Mavericks, who've been playing
lights out now. I think the counter argument against the
Dallas Mavericks is that they haven't really beaten too many
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teams above five hundred they're just twenty five and twenty
seven against teams above five hundred. But the way the
Clippers are playing, they're playing like a five hundred team.
So I think Luca like, look, what do they saying
to Guy five? Luca Brose sleeps with the Fishes. He's
sleeping with the Fishers the last two times he played
the Clippers. I don't think he's sleeping with the Fishes
this year. I think the Mavericks get it done. So
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even at minus one twenty, I'm seeing value on the Mavericks.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
Raheem who comes out of the West.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
It's it's very hard to say anybody but Denver. But
if it's not Denver, it's going to be the Mavericks,
it's actually gonna be the It's going to be the
winner of this MAVs Cup series.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
Oh it's not. That's good, we'll accept that. What do
you think of OKAC?
Speaker 3 (42:26):
Overall?
Speaker 2 (42:28):
I love OKC, but I just I think they're struggle.
They're going to struggle inside, and I think that's the
scary thing. Like I think if this was the league
like three years three, four years ago, when the Wards
were making a run where everybody was going small, that
would be great, but now you've got to have.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
Side to you.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
I don't think you're gonna be able to deal with
Let's just say that they played the Lakers, or they
played Minnesota, or they played Denver. I just think we
just haven't seen young teams perform like this in the
in the in the postseason, so I can't buy in
on them. But it wouldn't surprise me if they made
a deep run to the Western Conference finals. But at
some point, I don't think they have the experience.
Speaker 5 (43:07):
Iraen last two minutes with you here, I've kind of
figured we saw this coming. I was actually hoping Phoenix
would get Oklahoma City in the first round so I
could bet against them. Figured the market would very much
be all over the Suns. They're not favorites in the
series against Minnesota. Do you trust the Suns?
Speaker 2 (43:25):
This is a tough series. This is a very tough
series for me, just because all the models say take Minnesota,
but we know that this is a pretty bad matchup
for them. And if you look at the Wolves in
the clutch, they can't score in the clutch. And I
trust Bradley Bill, I trust Devin Booker, Kevin Durant. In
(43:45):
the clutch to hit their shots. I think this is
a series where you just play on the zigxact theory.
I think whoever wins game one, you take them game two.
I think this is probably going to be a two
two series in a long series, so I'm going to
be looking to play like series long props. I think
Dot Rudy Gobert is going to have a monster series.
It's gonna be serious. There's any games where he's gonna
have double digit points and double digit rebounds. They're just
(44:07):
going to destroy the sun that they're going to get
into foul trouble. So this is a long series and
that's how I'm going to try to play it.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
All right, very good.
Speaker 4 (44:15):
You can get Raheem's plays in the one hundred at
the Ringer dot com the Ringer Gambling podcast as well
follow him on x at I Am Roster Dramas. That
was awesome, Raheem, thanks much for the time, good luck
betting the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
Thanks for having me. I appreciate y'all.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
Ye be good.
Speaker 3 (44:30):
He joined us here in the progressive guest line right
the Twitter handle. You guys are in lockstep in a
lot of that stuff, except for his prediction of the Mavericks.
Speaker 5 (44:37):
Yeah, well, and I also think too what he's right
and the reason why this is gonna come back and
burn me. Let's play this over and over again with
a laugh track when it burns me. I'm trusting that
what the Clippers are saying is true and that Kawhi
Leonard is healthy.
Speaker 3 (44:55):
You're better than that, I trust me should be you
should be better.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
I should be better than that. The team that is
stively lied about his knee multiple times. Now, good luck pal, Yeah,
he was questionable with a torn aco.
Speaker 4 (45:06):
We'll get into the Nuggets up next with Chris Dempsey
Altitude Sports in Denver. If the Lakers win tonight, do
they give the Nuggets a better series than last year
when they were swept. Let's follow the money on vson
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