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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Always follow the money.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
That's why I always say you always follow it.

Speaker 3 (00:04):
Yeah, this is Follow the Money with Mitch Moss and
Polly Howard on VSON.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Here we go, Welcome in. It is Follow the Money
on VSON, the Sports Betty Network. This show is brought
to you by Draft Kings Mitch Moss along with Jonathan
von Tobel in for Paully Howard this week and as always,
we are live in downtown Las Vegas from the Circa
Resort and Casino. Big show lined up over the next
three hours. We'll hit in on the NBA the playing

(00:31):
games now we have two more remaining. They're both going
to be on Friday night than the game one starting
this weekend, NFL Draft, Major League Baseball. Good guests throughout
as well, JBT back end of the week. How are
you feeling today?

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Oh, I'm feeling it.

Speaker 4 (00:44):
Today was the morning that I woke up and I
was like, dear God, how do Mitch and Paul do
this every single day for like the last like six
years or whatever it's been.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
You know, it could be a little scary once in
a while. And when I say that, I mean probably
three times a week. I'll be halfway here, and I'll
think to myself, what happened in the last fifteen minutes
of my life? Like how did I get from point A,
meaning my house, to where I'm at right now on
the interstate out here called the ninety five. I'm like,
I don't even remember the last fifteen minutes of my drive.

Speaker 4 (01:11):
So, like you know, I'm a millennial, so I always
need to be in like consuming content, right, Like that's
my that's my generation's jam. It's got to be a podcast,
gotta be music, it's gotta be something. I drove in
silence today for like the first fifteen minutes of my drive.
When I was halfway down the freeway, I was like,
I should probably listen to something totally, and for some reason,
the choice was like, let's just see what the podcast

(01:32):
feed has, And I listened to like PBS News for
like fifteen minutes on the way.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
Yeah, PBS in the podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Have you heard what's going on over there? It's crazy?
Huh No, That's that's what this morning's been. Like, Yeah,
it's been a little nutty.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
The fact that you actually have that in your podcast
feed is a bigger upset than I would say. The
Heat and Sixers game going over last night.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Gotta stay well informed. That was ridiculous the way it
played out.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
I'm sorry if you had under in that game and
it closed around two o eight or to eight and
a half, but for that game to play out, and
I'm sorry you could see it coming from a mile
away in the final couple of minutes. That was eighty
nine eighty eight JBT with three minutes left. They combined
to score thirty two minutes in the final three minutes,
and I think the breakdown is something like eighteen or

(02:16):
nineteen points in the final thirty seconds of the game
or something like that.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
It was absolutely insane. You know one of those was
it right side wrong results right? Which is absolutely abysmal.
I mean for me, so it goes over by what
the hook?

Speaker 3 (02:30):
Right?

Speaker 4 (02:30):
So yeah, the underrated aspect of that thing going over
is of course, I think it was Tony Brothers calling
the foul on Nick Patum that led to the technical
free throw. I mean, that was to me insane. We
saw like two minutes before Nick Batum and Grant Like
I was on the seventy six er, so I enjoyed
the call, but Brothers watch Nick Patum shoved Tyler Hero
over the half court line to force it over and

(02:52):
back and he ran out to the middle of the
floor to call it a turnover and go the other way.
And then on that final inbound, he's like Noah in
a hands on the hip a little too much. We
got to get we gotta call this ball, this off
ball foul. That's like, that's the thing that was that
was insane to me, and you kind of get it.
I mean, the seventy six er has been lazy on
offensive rebounds all the entire game and yet another one
to get kicked out the hero for the three that

(03:13):
put it over and of course allowed the heat to cover.
But that that that that free throw in that foul
call is going to go down as like one of
the most underrated and most ridiculous foul calls from a
betting result they were going to see in these playings.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
It was it was stupid.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
You watch a lot of basketball. You are v Sin's
senior NBA betting analysts, and I talked about this when
we had that illegal moving screen in the Iowa game
against Yukon in the Women's College Basketball Tournament. They they
called a totally fair game in that game, and it
was not tight whatsoever. They let him play. That was

(03:47):
one of the reasons why he had a major issue
with that call. In that moment. The guy could not
wait to call the foul on Yukon and go the
other way. He was looking for it. He was looking
for any reason to make sure Yukon was not going
to have a final possession in the game for a
chance to win. And if it was ticky attack the
entire game, okay, then I'm not as mad. And that's
if you're going to call the game one way, it
doesn't matter. If it's going to be ticky tacking, you're

(04:07):
calling everything, then call it that way for the entire
time the players are on the court. Or if you're
going to let some rough housing go on and it's
going to be physical, then call that from the very
opening jump to the final gun when it goes off.
You have to be consistent across the board.

Speaker 4 (04:23):
That's and that's always for me, that's always the complaint.
It's not like, if it's a foul, it's a foul,
but if you're calling it a foul throughout the entirety
of the game, that you need to right. You need
to stick by that, and that's The thing that drives
you nuts is so many there's.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
Got to give some sort of a flow to the game. Yes,
you kind of have a feel for as a player.

Speaker 4 (04:38):
And like, that's the thing that drives you nuts about
these games and the way they're officiated. It's not the
calls in the situations. It's that to you the official
four minutes ago, if that wasn't a foul exactly right,
but now right now in the biggest of moments, oh
it's a foul, Like that's that can't happen. I mean
the play in which the seventy six ers almost get
called for a five second right because they can't get

(04:58):
the ball in. He's shoved at the back at the
very least once. I know on the broadcast they said twice.
I only saw one, but he was shoved.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
He was just flying on a bound.

Speaker 4 (05:06):
Yes, when flying out was shoved at least once, and
they're just like the roll on. That's that's what drives
you nuts. Again, as I mentioned Hero getting shoved over
the half court line, No, not a foul, but then
right there in that moment, ooh yeah, no, no, no, I
can't do that. Now, that's the thing that drives you nuts.
So you're like, people's issues should not be foul calls
in the moment. The issue should be if that's been
a foul call the entire game, no complaints. But if

(05:27):
you're gonna let them play all game long, you can't
call that foul in that situation.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
I did not have a single bet on that game,
merely an observation on how basketball games are played out
again from the very start to the end of it.
So now the Sixers move on Max. He did not
play well last night. That was a career game from
Nicholas Patum. I mean it looked like he was twenty
four years old out there playing, you know, at that
level for his entire care he looked phenomenal.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
That's French basketball playing the league right.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Well, easily, can we vote on that? Can we bet
on who it is and who the voters will give
it to you without a doubt? Well, so if they
get that Patum, which they're not going to, but if
they were to get that Patum the entire playoffs, then
that team will go along ways. I was a little
concerned about how Max he played overall last night. Now
a DraftKings there a buck fifteen favorite over the Knicks,

(06:15):
Knicks holding home court throughout, we knew the Sixers were
going to be favored in this series. Ye should they be?

Speaker 4 (06:22):
I think this should be small favorites. Just give it
where they're at. For like, as we know power rating wise, right,
how good Joel Embiid can be. And you kind of
saw him wake up a little bit there in the
second half hitting some pretty big threes for that team
to help them eventually win. But I would say too,
like as part of any postseason run, as you will know,
because you've watched a lot of sports, we all know,
you know, sometimes you need that game from that guy, right,
Sometimes the stars don't really show up, and every once

(06:44):
in a while you're going to need over twenty points,
you know, from the guy that you acquired at the
beginning of the season when you traded away James Harden.
Think that's going to happen every once in a while.
But I don't think one game should be a referendum
on like, hey, what do we think of this series,
this team as a whole. What's going to be fascinating
is as we watched yesterday, it took it to the
second half for Embid to wake up.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
You kind of.

Speaker 4 (07:05):
Saw like the out like the outward belly aching of like, Okay,
I'm messing with the kneebra. So I'm kind of looking
at the way, you know what I mean, I'm kind
of messing around. Are we gonna do this whole thing
where hey, I'm not I'm actually not healthy. Guys, even
though I played the last six games, we won all
six of them when I played down the stretch. That's
going to be the real challenge. But when you look
at this from the standpoint of taking on New York,
they have og Ananobi, but I don't think Isaiah Hardenstein's

(07:26):
really shutting down Joel Embiid. They are a little bit
smaller at the point of attack, especially with Jalen Brunson.
They have some defensive options for Brunson to throw at him, right,
they have If Danthey Melton's gonna be healthy, he's healthy,
you can use him Kyle Lowry defensively. Like they deserve
from a power rating standpoint to be slight favorites. But
I don't think you're getting anything crazy, Like you know,
as we see right minus one twenty five, I think

(07:46):
is fair given what we know about Philadelphia win They're
at the peak of their powers, and the fact that
Joyce Randall we know, is not going to play here
in this series.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
We kicked this around briefly two days ago on the show,
and for those who missed it, I'll bring it up
one more time here. Who's the best player in the series.
Is it Jalen Brunson or is a Joel Mba.

Speaker 4 (08:02):
I mean, if you've factory in health at this point
right now, it's Jalen Brunson, right.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
And I would agree with that.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
Yeah, I mean, he's unreal.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
Brunson's not going to make first team All NBA. That's
because it's going to be Shay and Luca. I think
he's got a real argument finish at least fourth in
MVP voting. I know a lot of people will initially
saw thought fifth, but I think you make the cases,
got a better case than like at least Jannason's a goop.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
I would agree with that now.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
Yeah, yeah, So this is what I find fascinating with
the first round of all the series numbers that are
up right now. The Nuggets are laying three ten against
the Lakers. Okay, that's the one lopsided going into it. Anyway,
They're seven point favorite in game one. I can't remember
this ever in the NBA where every other series Cavaliers
are shorter than two dollars, but they're almost two dollars.

(08:46):
Six Ers are a buck fifteen, Sons are a buck
thirty that's moved up a little bit. Maverick's a buck
twenty five. It did not open that high. They took
money bucks Pacers now down to a pick them. Can
you remember the NBA where we have this many series
in the first round that are a cent maybe a
little bit more than a pick them, but right around
pick them overall, I.

Speaker 4 (09:05):
Mean right around pick or you have multiple lower seeded
teams favored right like that's like, that's the thing.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
In the game one numbers are basically the same thing. Yep,
it makes sense.

Speaker 4 (09:13):
Now, like the I guess the fairness would be or
the fair point would be in two of those series,
Milwaukee and in LA. You have injury questions. We know
that Giannie isn't gonna play. We still don't know what's
gonna go on with quiet Athough. I will say, do
you see the picture of him holding up his team
USA Jersey?

Speaker 1 (09:26):
Huh?

Speaker 4 (09:27):
They actually had a little low covered up the right knee,
So I don't know what's going on there. Maybe they're
covering something up. I'm not freaking out about this at all. No,
I would agree with it, and it speaks to, I
think the parody of where we're at right how good
a lot of these teams are, how even footing a
lot of these teams are, even to some of these
stars play, You're not going to see these massive swings
in another direction, especially when it comes to the LA game.

(09:47):
And it speaks to outside of what we expect from Boston,
I mean runs to a conference finals, representatives coming out
of the West, like you could see any mix of
results coming out of this postseason. I think it's a
little while a lot of us were excited for us
to finally get here at this point.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
Not going to be surprised by much.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
No right now outside of Boston not making it.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
I think to the NBA Finals by whatever degree, even
if it's like seven games whatever.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
Outside of that, I wouldn't be surprised by anything.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
That and the Lakers take down Denver in like six games, yes,
that would be surprising to me. There is no number
on the board, by the way, for the Bulls who
were victorious last night they won, They covered, the game
went over against the Hawks. Kobe White scored four to
two points. He was awesome last night. There's no number
on the Bulls heat because the status of Jimmy Butler
is unknown as of right now. Yeah, unit observation on him,

(10:35):
You didn't think it looked very good less.

Speaker 4 (10:36):
No, there was multiple possessions where he was just standing
in the corner. Like credit to you gutting it out,
But it was very reminiscent. Remember do you remember Harden's
last season with Brooklyn where they were in the postseason
he had torn the hamstring off the bone and he
was just standing along the perimeter doing nothing.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
I'm trying to get that out of my memory bank.
So that Ben Simmons, the whole thing, that whole era. No,
but like that's it was very reminiscent of that.

Speaker 4 (10:57):
There was a possession where they go down, He's stands
in the corner, they miss a shot, they give an
offensive rebound, and he's just standing there. He's not moving
at all. So even if he tries to gut this
thing out, we saw yesterday he's not healthy. Whatever happened
to that knee that is that was debilitating so and
especially too as we know after a couple of days
off might get worse.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
Yeah, good, I'd follow the Money here on VSON, the
Sports Betty Network, Mitch masselone with JVT and for Pauli
this week. Up next we will discuss the Jent de
port Porter story bend from the NBA for life. I
have a prediction on something that will happen. I'm gonna
get guess at about three to five years that I
don't think many people will agree with. That's coming up

(11:38):
here on Vson.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
The Money.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
That's why I always say you always follow. This is
Follow the Money with Mitch Moss and Pouli Howard on VSON.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
Good to have you on board here on a Thursday morning.
It is Followed the Money on VSON, the Sports Betting Network.
This show is brought to you by DraftKings Mitch Moss
along with Jonathan von Tobel who was in Pauli Howard.
Pauli is on vacation this week, starting this hour off
talking betting on some props as Doug Crostein joins the program.
Now he does a great job for Action Network. He's

(12:26):
on X at prop bet Guy. He joins us here
on the Progressive guest line, Doug, good morning, how are things.

Speaker 5 (12:32):
What's up, guys? How are you.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
Doing really well? So we do have two more playing games.
There is a number currently up on the Heat Bulls.
Heat's favored by about two and a half in this game.
But that's gonna be one where I think books are
going to be slow to roll out other markets because
of the Jimmy Butler injury. Let's concentrate on the Pelicans
and the Kings. Now know Zion Williamson in this game,

(12:55):
Kings are now favored by one and a half on
the road. Which player or players caught your eye with
their numbers in this matchup?

Speaker 5 (13:01):
Doug, Yeah, so no Ion. Obviously that's a big deal
for the Pelicans, to say the least. So a guy
that I really like and a guy who I liked
in April in general, Trey Murphy on the Pelicans, who
I expect to come back into the starting lineup. He
was kicked back to the bench because Ingram came back.

(13:22):
But when he was playing in April, mainly without brandon Ingram,
he was playing with Zion. Obviously, no Ingram, he was
averaging twenty points a game. He's got seventeen points a
game since the All Star breaking thirty four minutes. This
is obviously a do or die game. He has been
playing big minutes down the stretch. I expect, you know
that they can unleash him up to about forty ish
minutes today or sorry, on Friday. So his point line

(13:46):
right now in DraftKings sixteen and a half, that's one
that I'm looking to lock in now because I think
that can only go up when he's confirmed to be
the starter, which I'm expecting him to be. We already
know that Zion's out. Ingram didn't look great at all
immediately play. I don't think even cracked thirty minutes. He
didn't playing crunch time. So they're going to need scoring,
and Murphy's their best bet besides, you know, a banged

(14:08):
up Ingram and CJ McCollum. In this one, Kings give
up a lot of spot up shooting. That's Trey's forte.
So I like I like Murphy in this one, Doug.

Speaker 4 (14:15):
When you watch a game like that transpire between the
Pelicans and Lakers and you see a guy like Willie
Green willing being willing to not only bench brandon Ingram
because he wasn't playing very well. I mean, frankly, I
think CJ McCollum was going to get benched until Zion
got hurt, right and they didn't really have any other
choice to put him back in there. How does that
affect you from a player prop standpoint when you see
a coach that's willing to be that aggressive and going, no,
screw this, I'll roll with Josey Alvarado and Trey Murphy
and Zion Williamson and our guys off of the bench

(14:37):
as opposed to some of the starters you would expect
to be out there in crunch time.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (14:41):
Well, it's a little scary when, you know, when when
I'm looking at bed and over because it does show
that he is willing to go with whatever he needs
to do to win, and benching wood guy likes CJ,
who was on fire to end the regular season. I mean,
it did definitely made sense, and then it was their
best bet and their best chance to win. You know,
there's no addicting. I think now without Zion and Ingram's

(15:03):
still not looking great, what this rotation is going to
shake out? As so I'm using my best, you know,
my best guess in terms of what I think they'll need,
which is scoring, which is why I'm going with Murphy.
But yeah, you know, it's definitely something to keep in mind.
If the Pelicans do move forward that hey, you know,
Willie Green will do what he needs to do in minutes.
Maybe you are in a solid in the playoffs as
we thought.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Okay, let's go to Sunday. The Mavericks are favored by
now one some spots have one and a half on
the road against the Clippers, and they keep taking money
on the series price by the way, they keep going up,
up and up. Luca's numbers are going to be extremely
high because the way that this guy finished and played
the entire year, he's just he's superman out there. What
do you what kind of caught your eye with him?
What do you want to do with Luca?

Speaker 5 (15:45):
Yeah, you know, so look Luca, like you said, superman.
He's playing big minutes all season, averaging over nine rebounds
a game to finish the season. Since they moved Derek
Jones Junior into the starting lineup, which obviously worked out fantastically,
I think, and Mavericks were, you know, the best team
in the NBA arguably over the stretch Luca in the
thirteen game sample was averaging over ten rebounds a game

(16:06):
with him. So when I saw the rebound line at
eight and a half, yes, it's a lower volume matchup
against the Clippers, but he's hit this in mind that
he's you know, he's cleared eight and a half rebounds
in nine of the last twelve excuse me, regular season
games against LA. It's just too low for a playoff game.
He's gonna play forty minutes maybe more. You know, he's

(16:27):
already averaging ten of late. So I mean I locked
in Luke over eight and a half rebounds last night.
I think there's still some playable numbers out there, so
I hopped on that pretty quickly.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
Yeah, did you have an opinion at all on that
series price? That's been JVT and I end Up talked
about this a lot this week. He just keeps going
up again. I mean I saw his heismans almost one
forty five yesterday on the Mavericks in some spots.

Speaker 5 (16:51):
Yeah, you know, I didn't jump on any early lines
like I know a lot of people obviously did, but
I definitely like the Mavericks in this one. I mean,
we don't know how healthy KWHI really is. He didn't
play an all dawn stretch. The Mavericks were on fire.
The late the Clippers sorry, you know, showed, you know,
definitely stumbled a bit. It's hard to kind of flip
that switch. So I definitely think the Mavericks should have

(17:13):
been favored from the get go. I know they weren't.
I'm not jumping on the current price, but I think
they pull it out.

Speaker 4 (17:18):
So Doug, general question when it comes to these player props,
because you kind of and mentioned a little bit when
you see numbers that are hung up, are they adjusted
for a playoff performances increase minutes or are these a
little bit more tied still into player averages from a
regular season because I feel like in general, if they're
tied to regular season averages a bit more, you probably
find some value, right because the markets on accounting enough
for maybe some increase minutes for some of these best players.

Speaker 5 (17:40):
For sure. Yeah, that's the first thing I look at,
you know, like you expect some of these star players
to get a few more minutes or maybe even extra
shift of playing time, even though it's just game one.
I still think, you know, coaches love to go out
win Game one, So they're gonna ride their players. You know,
they're guys like a guy like Luca who played big
minutes but should play even bigger minutes in the playoffs.

(18:00):
So that's the first thing I look at is minute
adjustice stats.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
Ah, it's followed the money here on VS and D Sports,
Betty Network our guest Doug Crostein, he's with Action Network.
You can follow him on X he is at propbat Guy.
So in terms of other series prices that have been
posted now, there's really only I would say, well, there's
one really prohibitive favorite that's Denver Lane higher than three
dollars against the Lakers. The Cavaliers are a little bit
shorter than two dollars against the Magic. Everything else really

(18:27):
much closer to a pickum. Did you like anything? Was
there a number out there that you thought I should
maybe grab a piece of that?

Speaker 5 (18:33):
Yeah, you know, it's awesome. I love that. I mean,
in the first round you're used to having heavy favorites.
Oh yeah, underdogs. But but it's but the parody is
incredible this year. Look, at risk of sounding like a Homer,
I do like the Knicks. I know, you know, they
opened up plus one oh five on DraftKings last night.
I think you had mentioned there now minus one oh
five that might be one. I pulled the trigger on look.

(18:54):
We watched the game last night and Beat does not
look one hundred percent healthy. He does not look one
hundred percent conditioned either, and the Knicks could throw forty
eight minutes of Hartenstein and Mitch Robinson at him, which look,
nobody can guard a healthy MP, but those two guys
can make it as tough as almost anybody can in
the NBA. Then they stick ogn Andobi on Tyres Maxi
Jalen Brunson. I don't think the Sixers have a good

(19:16):
matchup for him at all. Stevincenzo has been fantastic. I
just see too many advantages for the Knicks to make
this one in home court obviously. I don't see why
they would be underdogs.

Speaker 4 (19:27):
Well, I mean by extension then, right, Dougah, there's a
pretty clear path for whoever wins this series to the
Eastern Conference Finals potentially.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
I mean, you could get Indiana in the next round.

Speaker 4 (19:35):
It seems pretty likely a lot of people are making
the same comp like winner of Mavericks and Clippers Western
Conference Finals. Birth seems likely and maybe they could be
the other team that gets out. It's the same thing
with this series, is it not in the East?

Speaker 3 (19:47):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (19:47):
Yeah, for sure, for sure. I mean, we don't know
how bad Giannie is banged up, but the fact that
he's already going to miss the first few games of
this series does not bode well. And calf injuries obviously
could lead to something more significant. We don't know. But yeah,
you know, this is gonna be a big series. I know,
a lot was you know, made of the Knicks potentially lose,
you know, trying to lose so they get the three

(20:09):
seats so they have to play the Pacers instead of
you know what winds up being the sixers. But yeah,
this one, this one's gonna be an interesting series and
I could potentially see you know that whoever wins this
one winning the next one as well.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
Doug, it's a short card today in Major League Baseball.
That said, any k props at the moment that may
be worth a stab at in your opinion.

Speaker 5 (20:28):
Yeah, I you know Ryan Peppiott on the Rays, who
I know a lot of people are looking at to
have kinds of breakout year this year. The under of
six and a half strikeouts just makes a lot of
sense to me. You know, he's under two of three
this year, eleven of thirteen in his career. Weirdly, the
two times he went over were at corps, which might
not be It might just be coincidence, but I do

(20:48):
find it kind of weird that he hit both in
those environments. But you know, he's facing an Angels team
that's actually been much better from strikeout perspective over the
last week. They're only at twenty two percent strikeout rate
versus radies. They've been hitting actually above average over that
same span two So I think the books are devaluing
the Angels a little bit and overvaluing a guy like

(21:10):
Peppi who just hasn't shown that he can consistently hit
this line so under six and a half, I think
you can get that at minus one oh five. So
I'm gonna lock that in right now.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
Very cool. Follow Doug on X he's at prop bet.
Guy does a great job for action. Now where can
he join us here on the Progressive guest line. Doug
good Eetakia, best of luck tonight and this weekend. We
appreciate it, Hi, thanks for having me.

Speaker 5 (21:29):
Guys appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Is it a get rich quick plan just to bet
on Nicholas Batoum every every over after last night.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Clearly that's the way to go. Right.

Speaker 4 (21:43):
What's gonna be interesting is, actually, let me look, have
they hung up the player prop for that is his
point prop going to be at like twenty and a
half now, right, it's got to be the clear and
obvious adjustment that you have to make.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
That game came out of nowhere.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
It was the underrated aspect.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
I know.

Speaker 4 (21:58):
We're going to talk about like the three the block,
the putback that he had. Oh it's impossible. Four minutes
where he's like contorting his body and putting it back up.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
That was insane. You know what I liked a little
bit last night. Now it can get in trouble. He
can get in trouble for this a little bit later
on down the road. But he knew that he had
to hot the hot hand. Oh yeah, so, I mean
shots were going up. It doesn't matter if it was
from downtown to the guy in his face or from
fifteen feet tough contested. Eh, yep, we'll see. I mean,
because if he comes out cold in the next game,

(22:28):
it's gonna have to be hot potato time. Pale that
lasted for one game and one game only.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
My favorite thing.

Speaker 4 (22:33):
He does those every once in a while where he'll
catch it and then a one fluid motion just do
it like he won't even bring it back down.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
It's like whoop, and he'll just push it back up.
Oh he was feeling himself.

Speaker 4 (22:41):
And then when I saw him catch it at the
top of the key like he was gonna run the offense,
I was like, all right, set it down, Nick, let's
but hey man, he was on That was incredible.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
So if the Heat beat the Bulls, Miami would get
Boston then as the eight to one matchup in the East.
Based on what happened last year, how many people do
you think are going to say, can't count out the Heat.
Of course most was too good Jimmy Butler in the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (23:02):
I mean that performance yesterday kind of probably emboldened to
a lot of people. I know they lost, but looked
like the zombie Heat We're gonna do it again.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
Yeah, it really did.

Speaker 4 (23:11):
That was that first half was incredible for Philly, like
just throwing the ball directly to their defenders. They had
just played them, not even a week like a week ago.
It looked like it was the first time they'd ever
seen his own defense.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
Well, that game was drunk last night. The second quarter
was all Miami, the third quarter was off Philadelphia, and
then the fourth quarter for the Yes, that's right. We
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of the season.

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Speaker 1 (24:06):
NFL Draft is one week away and v SIN contributor
Mike Pritcher joins the program now. He of course played
in the league for a decade. I'll get his thoughts
on wide receivers to go in the first round and
what the Raiders and his former team, the Broncos, might
do early on as he is on the Progressive guest line.
Good morning, Pritch, how you.

Speaker 6 (24:25):
Been I've been great. Good morning fellas. How you guys
doing doing well?

Speaker 1 (24:28):
Thanks for popping up early with us here this morning. So, yeah,
you played with the Broncos. You lived in Denver for
a long time. You did a lot of radio there
and a lot of media in the great city of Denver.
What are you hearing about number twelve? Overall? JVT and
I have been so skeptical all week long these mocks
that some of them continue to bow nix, going, I
can't buy that at all? What say you?

Speaker 3 (24:49):
Yeah? Yeah, you know the thing about Mott's.

Speaker 6 (24:54):
And certainly when you want to bet this situation, mox
are primarily of need, right, because nobody can tell or
nobody can anticipate that do mocks how the board is
going to fall? I mean, DJ Jeremiah is not bad,
Brooks isn't bad. I mean they've been in those fun
offices and you know, their information is kind of reliable.

(25:15):
But majority of mocks out there is based on need.
So if you look at the Denver Broncos, they have
a lot of need and one primary position certainly would
be quarterback. You know, Jared Sidham is a guy that
I think had a chance, had a shot here in
Vegas with the Raiders, and the Broncos I think are
intrigued by the guy. He's still young enough to where

(25:36):
you can mold them if you are Peyton. But this
is a team that's starting over, Fellas. This team is
stripping it down, you know, making sure that they don't
make the same mistakes they've been making the year after year,
GM after GM, head coach after head coach in terms
of personal decisions. Thinking that there are a few play
players away. They're a team away, all right, So I

(26:00):
could see the Broncos trading down. To be honest with you,
I think there's premium positions in this year's draft, But
it's not a deep draft, right, We're going to get
to the mid rounds, and a lot of those players
aren't really draftable players. And you're hearing more and more
about that. So the Broncos they need the stockpile draft picks.
In my opinion, I'm not hearing bo Knicks at all.

(26:22):
I'm hearing strip it down and start all over with
this franchise.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
Okay, so you would actually make that the favorite, then
that the Broncos will not be picking at number twelve.

Speaker 6 (26:29):
They're going to trade back, right right, absolutely, I mean
they can go so many other different directions guys. I mean,
edge player, they could do that certainly. You know, linebacker
is a premium position for them. I think you know,
there's such certain situations too where wide receiver makes sense,
offensive line makes sense more than quarterback, and so therefore, yeah,

(26:50):
I mean I would say I would look for the
Broncos to certainly try to trade down or select one
of those type of players I just mentioned.

Speaker 4 (26:56):
So obviously then that would logically tie. Then, Mike, these
rumors that they would be willing to part with Patrick's
or Tan to move up to get like a JJ McCarthy,
those are bunk.

Speaker 6 (27:05):
Yeah, I mean they could have traded Cten years ago.
Well actually not years ago. He's still a young player,
but it sounds like it's years yeah, because.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
They've been roomed.

Speaker 6 (27:17):
That's been a rumor for a long time, right, But no,
I mean they would have done that already. I think
sir Tan is he's a premium player. They're running out
of those type of guys. They need to start all over,
and and that's the wrong way to start all over, JBT,
if you're going to give up one of those type
of primetime players that they have on the roster right now, well.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
And I've already we were throwing this round too. What
do they have left?

Speaker 4 (27:38):
They already shipped off a lot for Russell Wilson, right,
so to sacrifice more assets.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
To move up would put your future rebuilding a little
bit of jeopardy.

Speaker 6 (27:45):
Yeah, absolutely, I mean I think they're in cap at
jail right now, certainly with Russell Wilson. But you know
the other Peyton, the GM Peyton's under fire too, so
they can't screw this one up. You know, Sean Payton's
got his hands full. You know, his credibility is in
question too. It's just been dysfunctional in Denver for a

(28:08):
long time, and therefore they need to start all over.
And there's nothing wrong with that. I mean, it's a
proud franchise. It's no longer Pat Bowlan franchise. Certainly, the
new ownership group they want to start all over and
make their mark as well. With the Nuggets doing so well,
it's time for the Broncos to get it right.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
And I think they have to start all over in
order to do that.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
Follow the money. Here on vsin the Sports Betty Network,
our guest Vson contributor Mike Pritchard played in the league
for good ten years. He is on the progressive guest line.
So then the team picking behind them their division foe,
the Las Vegas Raiders. You know, everybody just assumed again
and what you said earlier was spot on right. People
are going to mock based on need. That's why like eleven, twelve,
thirteen Vikings Broncos Raiders, everybody initially was mocking quarterback by

(28:51):
not having fronty of them. I don't think Raiders go
quarterback at thirteen. That's kind of becoming I think a
little bit more obvious. Now do you agree with that?
If so, which direction do they go in?

Speaker 3 (29:03):
You know, I do agree with that.

Speaker 6 (29:05):
You know, you look at think about this guys in
the run on positions, because right now the big board
and everybody's draft board, they have probably three wide receivers
in the top ten. They have maybe three quarterbacks in
the top ten. They have brock Bowers at tight end.
You have an offensive linemen in the top ten, and

(29:26):
then you have maybe one edge rusher. So go down
that line where you want to go with these premium
positions and what these teams might do depending on how
the draft plays out and windows run on positions. Okay,
so let's say quarterback one, two, three go off the board.
The Raiders I think, are trying to get up there.
They're trying to trade for Jaden Daniels. It makes a
lot of sense. I mean, they need a quarterback in

(29:48):
a desperate way. I don't know if they're going to
be able to pull that off though, because of just
the desire of what's going to happen. Now, say somebody
falls to them though, right in terms of a quarterback
or you know, Michael Pennix, I think that might be
too high at that position for them. At quarterback, it's

(30:08):
hard to say where the Raiders want to go. I
know that they are getting expensive at wide receiver. You
think about Adams. If a wide receiver is there for
the Raiders, and I'm talking about one of these premium guys,
that can get interesting, you know, because they're just right
outside that top ten. And therefore that's why I mean
quarterback and wide receiver could be in play for this

(30:30):
team that's sitting at thirteen right now.

Speaker 4 (30:32):
So what do you make these wide receivers as a whole. Right,
We've talked a lot about the Marvin Harrison Junior, the
assumed guy to be the first one off the board.
Do you believe anything when you hear that, Hey, you
know what, I actually think Leg Neighbors is the better
wide receiver here. He could maybe you'll lead Marvin Harrison Junior.
Or is this all just a given he's going to
be the first guy off the board. In terms of
the pass catchers.

Speaker 6 (30:49):
Well, I mean, JBT, he's got the clout, he's got
the name. I think Aduns is right there too. All
these guys can go. All these guys as are number
one wide receivers. It's just it's just okay, what's going
to make them different? Marvin Harrison Junior to me is
a premium player, right. I just think that a Douns

(31:10):
has run after the catch ability. Elik Neighbor is not
so much. He can get deep, he can do everything.
But a Dounsa is just that complete player that with
that run after the catch ability that I think is
sought after in a national football league. If you think about,
like when we look at player props, right, it's one
thing to have a receiver catcher route at twelve yards

(31:32):
and then get tackled. But it's another to have a
receiver catcher route at twelve to fifteen yards, break a
few tackles, and all of a sudden you're looking at
thirty yard game.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
Right. I think a Dounse has that ability.

Speaker 6 (31:44):
You know, getting deep is something that certainly teams in
the National Football Get League are going to look after
or look out for. You also have the eleven personnel
dynamic too. It's anybody's guests. To me, a Dounsa is
the best player though at that position on board.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
For my money, better than Harrison.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
Yeah, I believe so.

Speaker 6 (32:03):
I mean, Harrison's got the cloud, but Harrison also played
on the team in which they have a rich history
and wide receivers is you guys know, and I've played
with a number of those guys, and some of those
guys had a lot of clout, but no substance. So
and well the substance that they had at my day

(32:24):
they was with steroids. They have a lot right now,
they have a lot of cloud, and certainly the competition
just isn't isn't what it needs to be. I think
that's why Neighbors is getting a lot of shine right
now because he did play in the SEC.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
How many receivers you then would go in the first round?
That prop has been sitting six and a half over
is plus money has been now for weeks. Do you
think we get seven in the first round.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
I mean, that's the interesting bet.

Speaker 6 (32:52):
Like I said, we got three in the top ten
right now, and if you get a run in that position,
then all of a sudden you're looking at four perhaps
and then five for sure. Getting to seven is going
to be interesting. Like I mentioned that that if you
have that bet, the dynamic in the National Football League
of eleven personnel and multiple wide receivers, very few tight
ends at times, and certainly running backs. Now, yeah, I

(33:14):
could see teams kind of reaching for some elite guys
or some guys that have some speed element to their
game that could also help out in matchups, right, So,
and those teams are in the middle of the pack,
in the bottom of the draft, and those are the
playoff caliber teams that I'm looking for, those matchup guys.
So that's in your favor if you did bet that over.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
Interesting you said that about a Doonzay. I think we
brought this up yesterday on the show, Daniel Jeremiah said
that Roma Dunzay is his favorite player now wide receiver,
favorite player in the draft.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
So, no, he's incredible.

Speaker 6 (33:48):
I mean they're out running where he can play, but
they run after the catch. I mean Jerry like Randy Moss,
we all saw him play and how great he was.
He can get open against three guys, right, but his
run after the catch was underrated. But Jerry Rice's run
after the catch was legendary. And I think Adnesday certainly
has that ability. So I see why he's in a

(34:09):
lot of people's races right there.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
Rich, great catching up with you. Enjoy the draft next
week and we'll catch up soon.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
Okay, absolutely, guys, enjoy the rest of your day.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
Be good. Up next in Pocket Place, and I'll expand
on the receivers why. I like a lot of them,
but it could be dicey based on where they go.

Speaker 4 (34:46):
The guy has an algorithm to determine the winner of
any given college basketball games.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
Someone gives you ten thousand to one on anything, you
take him take him.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
I'll about you twenty bucks. I can get you gambled forward.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
There's no way I'll give you three to one. As No.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
Five to one in what You're at aaltrome the baseball
season zero to three betting this sport This week Cardinals
as first five hundred four and a half. No Good,
that was a loser, doesn't matter full game first five
K props this week, No boy, no April record overall
nine and fourteen, negative one point two units. No good.
Got to flip this around. Hopefully the draft will do that.

(35:24):
I've added bets throughout the week. They generally happen after
the show is over with yeah. Yeah, A lot of
books are not open until the show is done, and
then most times you know, numbers are going to move
sometimes whatever. For example, I really like the Chargers bet
that I made yesterday minus one twenty five. I can't
give that out right now. Could take an offensive lineman

(35:44):
because it's no longer there. Minus one forty probably still
worth a bet, so the one I have pending. Gave
this out on the show when it was available. Pacers
to win against the Bucks plus one ninety five. That
and I added more plus one sixty five now to
pick them. I mean, look, closing line value. You don't
take it to the bank. You take cash to the bank.

(36:06):
And as we said earlier. You know what, maybe because
of Giannis and the injury here, this actually opens up
a little bit for Damian Lillard and he goes nuts
and I would not be surprised for two seconds if
that happens.

Speaker 4 (36:16):
Yeah, this is gonna get to play for me. The
other side is going to get the playable territory here
pretty soon. If we're talking about the Bucks being an
underdog in the series, yeah, because there's still there's still
a chance he comes back, right and you could still lose.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
Steal a game. It's tunny you say that.

Speaker 4 (36:30):
Steal a game at home against Indiana right to start
the series, and then Giannis potentially comes back. It'll be
fascinated to see what that ends up at the time
we get the game time.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
This weekend, all right, side's it for me?

Speaker 5 (36:40):
All right?

Speaker 4 (36:41):
Yesterday Saint than seventy six ers minus four and a
half tough at the end of that game, I will
not I think that was one where I was in
a I was lucky to kind of be in position
to cover that at the end of the game. They
were not playing well in the first half. That's fair,
it got there. I wish they would have if that
foul at the end was it was a little nuts.
But they don't get there. Then Hawk's money line plus
one thirty not a chance the world. Holy smokes, they

(37:01):
look bad. And as I said multiple times, Mitch, I've
been burned by this Ox team many times, I was
going to give him one last shot. I'm glad they're eliminated.
Get them out of here.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
Thank god, they're finally done.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
Right, Yeah, it might be the last of it. Trey Young,
get ready to learn.

Speaker 4 (37:15):
Well, it's not going to be Chinese, buddy, but it's
going to get ready to learn the I'll say the
benefits of Keeso as you head to San Antonio and
a team up with Victor Weman Young.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
Oh, don't say that. Don't do that to Wemby. Don't
talk about Am I dead wrong on this? Probably? Would
you rather if you're a different team in the NBA
looking to trade because they're not going to keep this together.
There's no way they can serrow that Tray Young? Would
you not rather have Dejohnte Murray than Trey Young?

Speaker 3 (37:40):
Right?

Speaker 4 (37:40):
I think that's what Trey Young's on the way. Yeah,
And I feel like Trey Young's we shouldn't He's had.
He's got a really good upside on offense, of course.
And I also think part of the negativity of the
pairing is the pairing itself. Like they're just two bald,
dominant guds who don't really fit. And I think if
you separate them then they'll be good in their respective
roles with wherever they land. And the team for San

(38:01):
Antonio is kind of built up to kind of fit
with Trey Young does well.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
Will a team led by Trey Young ever do damage
in the playoffs? I know they went to the Eastern
Conference finals.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
That was more about seventy six ers collapsing though, right
sure anything else.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
Will he ever be the let's say, the front man
or the catalyst for a team to like make the
finals in the NBA?

Speaker 4 (38:21):
I would say no, only because when you play defense
at that level, I don't know if you can be
considered that.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
I'll give you another one. Pelicans lose tomorrow night in
the Western Conference. What do you do moving forward with
the roster?

Speaker 4 (38:34):
I don't know, because you've paid those guys like Brandon
Ingram Sege McCollum a lot of cash. Yeah, and like
they're not that like they're not going to be that
attractive in terms of assets you like for you've soft
locked yourself into what this team is at this point
right now.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
Now, this is a gigantic if if they could ever
stay healthy with that roster, could the Pelicans possibly could
they make the Western Conference Finals? Could they reach the
NBA Finals?

Speaker 2 (39:01):
I would say yes.

Speaker 4 (39:02):
I don't know about NBA Finals, but I think, especially
as we know like the nuances of how a bracket falls,
absolutely they could.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
They could make the Western Conference finals.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
So then being in play to actually make it to
the NBA Finals.

Speaker 4 (39:11):
I mean Luca doncs has made it to a conference finals.
Trey Young, as you mentioned, has made it to a
conference finals. The Clippers made it two years ago. You
can make runs to a conference finals if the bracket breaks.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
Right for you. I do agree with that. The part
that I have a difficult time wrapping is the team
staying health right, and I would agree with that too.
It's a five year sample size now with Zion.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
It's it's it's Zion, It's Ingram.

Speaker 4 (39:31):
By the way, Trey Murphy was hurt at the beginning
of the year, so I would agree with that absolutely.

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is yours. I wanted to expand on the wide receivers
here that are going to go super high in the
NFL draft. Do I love the top three guys? Sure
I do. I think they're all like a plus level
type of guys coming out of college that can you know,

(40:16):
really really be good at the NFL level. Rank them
any way that you want, Harrison, neighbors and ODOONSA. I
don't care how you have them one, two, three. I
think the problem is landing spots at the next level,
specifically for this position. It basically means the world now.
And here's the example. Who would not love Marvin Harrison

(40:38):
going to LA and playing with Justin Herbert to be
the lead guy there. Right, that's the ultimate landing spot
for any of them. Basically maybe even Arizona with Kyler Murray.
That's not a bad backup spot to go to. However,
if the draft falls, if it goes quarterback quarterback, then
let's say Harrison goes third to the Patriots, not loving

(41:02):
it so much anymore. He's got Jacoby Brissette as his
quarterback and who knows what moving forward. I think the
same thing can be said for the New York Giants
if they take any of these three guys playing with
Daniel Jones, you happy about that?

Speaker 2 (41:19):
No, not at all.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
You know, work out well there.

Speaker 4 (41:21):
I think you might be happy with the offensive scheme,
You're not gonna be happy with who's getting the ball
to you?

Speaker 1 (41:26):
Well said? Another one must be added, Tennessee. Now I
think they go offensive lineman. There's a shout where they
could go wide receiver. I think one of them will
be on the board at number seven. But to go
play with Will Levis, No, I'm not in love with
that whatsoever. So again, the landing spot, and that's something

(41:49):
too that I think you know, people have learned over
the years, just like they're never going to learn with
the quarterback. Every time somebody talks about a quarterback on
some other network. All these guys are going to shine, right,
They're never going to be bad. Bs half of them,
if not more, are actually going to be bad. I
think the wide receiver landing spots. I've loved dudes to

(42:09):
come out of college previous years. But if they go
to the wrong team with the wrong fit and the
quarterback was not that great, good luck, you're not going
to hear from them again potentially.

Speaker 4 (42:17):
Well so speaking of Levis too, and I would agree
with all of those points. And Levis is pretty fascinating
because the Titans themselves they geared up this offseason like
they look like they're trying to win their division. That's
why I think offensive line makes sense. But Will Levis
does have a connection with Jaden Daniels. You ready for
this Round one and two quarterbacks since the twenty and

(42:38):
sixteens draft to average less than five yards per drop
back under pressure and a greater than twenty percent sack rate.
Christian Hackenberg.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
Okay, you don't want to be in a list with him, Eva,
Zach Wilson or him justin fields.

Speaker 4 (42:54):
Okay, Will Levis, and there's one quarterback in this field
that is in this list, Aiden Daniels. Okay, those are
very specific numbers, though the very you were just saying,
you know, you're essentially saying you're inviting pressure and taking
it and it's not essentially your offensive line's fault. But
that has been the big criticism of Jayden Daniels, the
invited pressure and the fact that he allows those pressures

(43:14):
to turn into sacks.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
Okay, so man, I think that you could really come
up with anything to fit in.

Speaker 4 (43:22):
But like those are so bad, Like some of those
names are very, very bad, and we don't know what
justin Field is going to be yet, and we're getting.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
An idea that's not great.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
By the way, it's another one.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
Hackenberg.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
When he was drafted, I can recall people saying quarterback
of the future for the Jets.

Speaker 4 (43:38):
He was Christian Hackerg. Was he not a first round
but I can't really remember the cover, but I think
he was. No, I know he was a second But
in terms of the discourse, was he not again mocked
first round?

Speaker 1 (43:47):
I think you might be right with him. Yeah, And
people talked about him like watch out, gonna be good.
Sure thing you bet. I hate to be like that,
but there's too much of a sample size now over
like three plus decks kades of watching this thing every
year in my life and hearing what people are going
to say in the narratives, and it rarely turns out
that way. Go back to the the Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert,

(44:09):
Christian Ponder draft and like any of them, and yet
every person on TV Quarterback of the Future franchise face
what none of them could play a lick. And that's
pretty much the example of what you have other than
the guys who you have a handful of guys over
the years.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
More than that.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
I mean, I'm being a little unfair here, but because
they do work out, but I'm gonna save more than
fifty percent flop.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
I mean, we've gotten better at it. Was it Kyle
Boller Did he go to cal right? Uh?

Speaker 1 (44:36):
Yeah, because he was.

Speaker 4 (44:37):
He was the one that was watching old graeny footage
of his like pro day and the reason the Ravens
got up in the first round is because he threw
for the fifty yard line on his knees to the goalpost.

Speaker 1 (44:46):
Well, I think they made a big deal out of
that with JaMarcus Russell.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
Too, right, Oh, like this is how we evaluate guys.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
Now, I gotta take gotta take them. No, that was
a big I think that was kuyper on. JaMarcus Russell
took the same thing. And the forty five second clip
of that yep from that draft talking about your mark.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
The d story with Russell's always a classic.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
Oh you want that footage burned, but it happens all
the time. Great job this week. I'm off tomorrow you're
filling in with Tim Murray.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
Yes I am. I still have to be here this
early morning.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
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