Donnie Klang (Making The Band 4 / INT)

Donnie Klang will Take You There!

You know him from Making the Band 4, where he was awarded his own solo contract by Diddy… but what has he been up to since? Does he still keep in touch with Diddy today?

Lance and Donnie reminisce about boyband training and what life was like in the 2000s.

Plus, Playa Deception is back together after 15 years and Donnie is giving us all the details.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
This is Frosted Tips with Lance Bass, an iHeartRadio podcast. Hello,
my Little Peanuts, it's me your host, Lance Bass. This
is Frosted Tips with Me and my lovely co host
Michael Turchin.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Hello there everyone.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Okay, we do need to talk about a few things
before we bring you on our guests. All right. One,
I mean, Barbie is the talk of the world right now,
and I want to remind everyone that there is an
instinct Barbie. Yeah, did you forget about this? Did you
have them?

Speaker 2 (00:34):
I never knew about it to forget about it?

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Yeah, I kind of forgot about it too until I
saw someone post about it. I'm like, oh, yeah, we
had because it was Barbie instinct number one fan, Barbie.
Did y'all know that Barbie is instincts number one fan? Yeah?
Oh damn, it's a thing. It's a thing. They had three.
They had Barbie which came with the bye Bye bye
c D obviously c D. Teresa so was this I

(01:00):
Promise you this one, and she had this I Promise
you and then Christy had It's gonna be Mac. So
there were three instinct dolls. And I'm sure now that
it's the new thing they're going to come back out
and they're going to release new CDs of US. Oh yeah,
CDs only, CDs only, Yeah, with the bucket hats and

(01:21):
all that. So yes, So if you still have your
instinct barbies, they're probably worth at least ten dollars at
least at least something that I wouldn't want to talk
about on the show what uh you know, there's weird
things happening at concerts these days. The one, people are
starting to throw cell phones and water bottles at artists.

(01:43):
It's just like, like, why are people throwing hard things
at artists on the on the st It's like, this
cannot become a trend. This is I mean, if it
becomes a trend, and guess what, they're gonna be taking
your phones away at the door. That's gonna be fun.
And it's also so they're gonna start resting you. I mean, yeah,
I mean it is you can't do it someone on
the street, what's her? Who's the one?

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Who? I mean?

Speaker 1 (02:01):
Cut her face? And uh baby, yeah, I mean it's
that's nuts. So let's not make this a trend. But
another thing that happened that was kind of a little
off was Miranda Lambert I'm sure you've heard, kind of
stopped her concert and scolded, some fans are taking a selfie,
you know, an influencer.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
Obviously you know it was an influencer. It was a
group of middle aged women just having a girl's night.
They've got a vip fable at the Vegas show.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
So it's Vegas. They were taking a group photos. So
did they go to the front of the stage and
they were in their booth just taking a selfie of
themselves and like had an opening so we could see
her on the stage exactly. So it wasn't they were
like in the distance. Oh okay, that's even worse.

Speaker 4 (02:48):
Yeah, And so Miranda then stops the show says, why
are you taking salefie during maschall.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
The this is my impresion of Miranda Lambert if because
you didn't know.

Speaker 4 (02:59):
And just like it was and then like when they
finally that haven't we listened to some music and then
of course she started she like looks at the fantasy
go in motions with her hands and says like sit down.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
I was going to sit down. I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
If I would have thrown my phone at her head,
I would have thrown the bottle.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
Yeah, that's a little I mean, maybe she was having
a bad.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
But I saw videos come up.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
She did it. Two other videos. I saw two other concents.
One man was just turned around talking to a friend
and she stopped the whole thing. And it's like, I
think that's mighty rougeer turning your back to me, sir.
It's like, get over yourself, woman, They paid what how
much money to go see see you? You usould be
grateful that they're paying money to see your butt. And

(03:45):
number two, they paid it. They could take as many
selfies as they want. Like, who you own them? They
paid you?

Speaker 2 (03:50):
You don't, you don't.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
It's like to say to you, Miranda Lambert, this is ugh.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
I'm so rubbled. I didn't even articulated.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
Ruffled feathers with turkey. But can you like, can you?

Speaker 3 (04:00):
I mentione Taylor Swift being like, oh, you're taking the
Sophie my concert. Let's shut down the whole show.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
Well, don't understand if they're really interrupting a show, But
that's not interrupting a show. Like if you had like
lasers like trying to blind, I would understand.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
If you're heckling or you're screaming.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
Of course, you're taking a photo and you're in and
you're a Vegas act where you're doing this every night.
So get over it and be happy that you have
a think in Vegas and people want to take photos
of you.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
Miranda Lambert, Well, if you ever see me performing, you
can take as many selfsh as you want. Yeah, just
going to put that out. Just don't throw phon, Just
don't throw not on my face. But you could throw cookies. No,
not even cookies, cookies. What would I like throwing at
me on stage? I mean, I do like a plushy
just because you know my kids will take all of them. Yeah,

(04:45):
So this secret stage that I perform on, I guess
I knows.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
I know what I perform.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
Please, well, next time Lance performs at your.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
Remember Okay, let's get to Johnnie and Matt right now,
So let's take a little break when we come back
for now the boys I in t Now, this is
gonna be something new for most of y'all. I think, Uh,
this guy was in a couple of boy bands.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
I'm sure we all remember from making the band for it,
and I remember, I remember I never.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
Got to watch them making the bands. Yeah, you were
busy being in the band. Well, I think Otown ruined
it for me. I'm like, I'm not going to support
another boy band. But I do remember Danny Kane a
lot like that. That ever stood out.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
Well, they were like the big success, like making the band.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
Yeah did He canceled them on one of the seasons
along because they were in an argument and he was like, oh, his.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Ego is so bad, like don't talk back to me.
Well guess what.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
The group's over bye and all this end of the
group right there because they talked back to it.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
Well, Diddy doesn't have the most popular opinions. I have
to say. Maybe I'll tell that story later on the show.
But until down on the second break, we'll be right back.

(06:15):
Let's just get right into it, guys, here we go,
all right. Donald Joseph Playing is an American singer from Brooklyn,
New York. Started his career as a baby modeling and
then a young age getting minor roles on shows like
Nanny and My pd Blue. But ultimately you know Donnie
from making the band for where he was awarded his
own solo contract by Diddy. Welcome to the show, my.

Speaker 5 (06:35):
Man, Thank you guys, Thank you guys for having me.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
Too.

Speaker 5 (06:37):
It's a pleasure to meet you, Lance and introduce your
friend here. Yeah, so this is Matt. This is Matthew Port.
He is my business partner here at our recording studio
in New York, the Loft Sound Studio.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
Yeah, so love Sound.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
Tell us about Love Sound is recording studio, y'all finding
new artists and all that.

Speaker 5 (06:55):
Yes, So we opened in twenty eleven. This is like
at the ten end of when I was doing my
artist stuff and the transition from being in the spotlight
to not being in the spotlight. This was like home.
This was like we opened up this spot to try
to like kind of still do what we love, but
then also share our knowledge and our network and everybody

(07:18):
that I met in the business through the years, share
that experience and share that knowledge, and then also continue
artist development because we came from that. I know, you
came from that. That was like something that was missing
for a while in the business was development. So we
kind of filled that hole and it turned into a
business for us.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
I mean, it's so true. I always say that, you know,
when we were kind of going up in the business,
it was all about you know, really that aring of anything.
Now you have to have a full album to get
signed to a label. These days, like no one puts
any work behind the artists and tries to develop them anymore.
There's like, listen, you got to bring me a full album,

(07:58):
We'll release it and basically be we are this time.
What are some of the lessons you learned from being
in the business that you want to kind of pass
forward to the new generation of artists.

Speaker 5 (08:10):
Yeah, I mean, like the work ethic and then also
understanding that getting signed to a label isn't the holy grail.
It's like and I think that's why we've even stood
the test of time. I know when we first opened
our studio, studios were kind of failing. People are able
to do this more and more at home, but having
people that actually care and have genuinely experienced stuff, and

(08:33):
we're here to not only share like what we do
here as producers and songwriters helping people make their music,
we're also here to like warn them about certain things
in the business, especially now with Instagram and these sharks
that come in their dms, and what kind of playlists
should they get on and how do you get on?
And which is fake? And what are bots? It's like
it's insane. But we've had to grow and evolve with

(08:56):
social media and just stay kind of ahead of the trends,
ahead of the time. It's kept us as young as possible.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
It's true, you do have to evolve. Matt How did
you get involved in music? When did you start?

Speaker 6 (09:09):
So? I met Donnie actually in high school. We went
to a private Catholic school. We were about thirteen years old.
This was in nineteen ninety nine, and we just had
a love for singing. I know in sync started emerging
around that time Backtory boys, so we were like, we
can do this. So we actually put together a boy
band and taught ourselves how to do everything, record, write, produce.

(09:33):
We used to go to malls and just sing acappella
to gain fans. Then we would go to concerts and
we would steal other people's fans in the audience. One
of the concerts was this girl group called Play and
they were managed by Beyonce Knowles dad. Matthew. Yeah, he
called us backstage and he started managing us from that

(09:55):
day forward. He brought us to Sony. We got a
deal with David Massey. We were like sixteen seventeen years
old and man then the stories start happening.

Speaker 5 (10:06):
What's so crazy is like when we do interviews or whatever,
we usually we always reference in Sync. We're like, because
that's what it was. We're like, this is back in
the in Sync days. So of course we had our
own boy band, and it's like that's what we say
in interviews, which is crazier now. We also we wanted
to bring this up quick. Yeah, we both have stories

(10:27):
of when we met you.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
Oh god, what happened man?

Speaker 6 (10:31):
I actually met both of you about two summers ago
in Pete Town.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 6 (10:37):
I was there with my wife and outside of one
of the restaurants, and I didn't really want to bother you,
but I was like, what's up, man, I'm a big fan.
I took a picture with you.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
But yeah, that was the last time we were in Peetown.
That was a that was we call that the super
Spreader because that was during like COVID Yeah yeah, yeah,
and after that trip because it was fourth of July,
it just blew up on the like I think that
was our trip. Yeah, it was.

Speaker 6 (11:03):
I go there every summer. I've been taking my kids
there since they were born, and I loved It's amazing.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
Such a great town. So I n T is the
boy band we're talking about, right, So how many guys
were in this group?

Speaker 5 (11:16):
So yeah, we we had two different groups at.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
The time, and there were two different high schools, right.

Speaker 5 (11:21):
We Uh so I went to Catholic school for two
years and then I switched back to public school. So
there was like we were two different groups at two
different points, but it was basically the same group of guys.
We were playing eception first. That was our name playa
because we said that we it's super embarrassing.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
We said.

Speaker 5 (11:38):
We looked like that's a deception because we're nice guys.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
But if it wasn't embarrassing, it wasn't in the boy
band camp.

Speaker 5 (11:46):
Then it wasn't nineteen ninety nine. So but yeah, we
we lived it though. It was like that's something I
tell everybody too. It's like even the making the band days,
the development part of it, and like that first season
of the show, and then like what I did with
Matt and our group members. We still have our group
chat to this day. It's like, to me, was the

(12:07):
best part of the experience of anything I did. It's
better than getting signed, It's better than like doing music videos.
It's like those times in the group, like and I
know you know this, It's like you can't replicate that,
just that feeling of just being able to blend and
the harmonies, and it's just like you can't you can't
even explain that.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
It's magic. It's magic and in the bonds that you
have for the rest of your life is just incredible.
It's a family, you know that you just you know,
they don't have to be blood, but they are family
for sure. Right, So let's talk about making the band
because I was definitely at the age where I didn't
I didn't get to see any of the making the
bands one when it started we were kind of on
tour and so I couldn't watch any TV. And then

(12:51):
when Diddy took over, like I'm just never really you know,
I knew Danity Kane was formed there. So tell us
the experience on how you got on this show. What
was the audition process?

Speaker 5 (13:02):
Like, so this is February two thousand and seven. They did.
It's very similar to like American Idol. They go to
a bunch of big cities and uh, you wait in line. Actually,
at this point, my Space was huge, and I want
in this MySpace contest that gave me an opportunity to
cut the line. The first day.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
Oh, so I.

Speaker 5 (13:23):
Cut the line. I went in, I saw Mike Bivens
from New Edition. He was the first judge. It's super
super similar to American Idol. You go in, you sing something,
they either say yes, you're coming back or no, and
then that's it. So I went in, I sang like
two lines for Mike Bivens and he's like, dude, dude,
you're good, come back tomorrow. So I didn't really get
to experience like the scariness and the cutthroatness that first day.

(13:46):
But when I came back the second day, the fifty
thousand people was trimmed down to like two hundred of
New York's top talent, and I'm this like skinny white
kid going up against these incredible singers. Like these guys
could way out sing me. It wasn't even like I'm
like what am I doing here? There was like a
moment where in my head I'm like I either need

(14:08):
to go home or But back then I was just young.
I was so hungry, and I just flipped this switch
where I just became a sponge to everybody around me,
and instead of it being like a competition. I was
more of like just trying to learn anything I could
from anybody that I was getting a chance to meet
and go up against. And that was it. I made
it through that day, and then then it got even
more real. Then you meet Diddy and they flew in

(14:30):
the best of the best from around the country. But
the development part of that process, we always say it
me and the guys for making the band. We feel
like that was the last of it. When they were
still developing artists and putting you through those boot camps
and the rigorous like dance classes, vocal coaching, making sure
you're working out and staying on top. We had this

(14:52):
vocal coach that made sure we were eating the right
things and the throat coat teas and like I I
feel like that doesn't really exist as much anymore in
the business.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
I don't think it does. And that was something you know,
I started when I was sixteen, and we immediately started
doing all of that. I mean, it was a bootcap,
you know, it was about what you made. You had
to you know, exercise, you had to rehearse every single
day in a crazy warehouse one hundred and ten degrees
to learn how to sing. And dance at the same time.
But yeah, I mean it's it's it's crazy that we
don't have those I don't know that boot camp situation

(15:27):
with these new artists today because I think they would
learn a lot more and then it would take care
of their voice a lot. Because I know all these
singers now, I look at them, the ones that are especially,
you know, really like, I hope they're really taking care
of themselves, because that's going to go out when you're
like thirty five years old.

Speaker 5 (15:43):
You see it too with a bunch of these artists
that come off these shows. It's like you're going from
being a nobody to being somebody overnight and then capitalizing
on that fifteen minutes of fame. The labels are just
sending you right out towards Like Kelly Clarkson, I feel like,
I remember the story should blew out her voice something
right after that first season.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Oh yeah, you don't.

Speaker 5 (16:04):
Have the proper training. I think it happened with Adele.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
It's a perfect example, Like Kelly's a perfect example someone
with a voice like that that can just well, like
a Celine Dion, a Whitney Houston, like Selene from she
was thirteen years old, she was always training her vocal.
Mean she I mean even to this day, she's you know,
always so great about that. But yeah, I mean it's
it's part of the game. You got to keep up
with Diddy. Are you still in touch with Diddy these days?

(16:31):
Like what's your relationship with her?

Speaker 5 (16:32):
Very loosely it uh, It just like decreased slowly over
the years, and then something would happen we'd be back
in touch. A handful of times pitched him artists over
the years. So actually with our studio, one of our
biggest successes is this girl, Madison Beer.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
Oh love Madison Beer.

Speaker 5 (16:51):
And to us, this is like a perfect example of
us getting a chance to do what we do. She
came to us when she was twelve years old. She
was going to School of Rock and her dad was like,
they kind of do more rock stuff. We're looking for
a place that does more like contemporary. We're like, yeah,
we do, this is what we do, pop R and
B stuff, And she came to us. We developed her

(17:11):
for about eight months. And this is also on those
early days of YouTube, and her videos were just organically
going viral. Yeah, in a year, she got discovered by
Scooter and Justin and she got picked up by the
management team. But even her story it's not a fairy tale.
It's like she got signed, but she got signed to

(17:32):
Scooter the same year Scooter was signing everything. She got signed,
I think in the same couple months that Ariana Grande
got signed. And then he was just signing like Martin Garrick,
cy Gangham style, whatever was hot right at that moment,
he was signing it. And she got shelf too. And
that's what happened with us, Matt Knowles. We're sitting here thinking,

(17:54):
fifteen six year old kids like, we just got signed
with the biggest manager in the business. But they're the
biggest manager because of the artists that made them the
biggest manager. And that's where the focus goes, the energy goes.
And he sat here his home bases in Houston, and
we sat here in New York just kind of like
getting lost in the shuffle. And then we'd get excited
when he'd send us out for a month and then

(18:15):
back to school and our friends are like, what are
you guys doing.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
Yeah, it's always better to be the big fish in
the small pond for sure. Going back to Madison, I
one of My favorite things that she did was that
Katia group. Yeah, the k Pop the cartoon gamer or whatever.
I thought that was so dopey, Impetraus, like all these
girls came together and created this fake kind of girl band,

(18:42):
and I wish they would have continued that, because that
was that was some really good music, really good. She's
so talented.

Speaker 5 (18:47):
She was always very talented, and then especially like once
she got a chance to catch up her image with
her age. I think that was one thing for her,
was she was thirteen, but she looked nineteen, and then
the label wanted her to sing these kiddie songs, but
then it didn't match her image, and then she wanted
to sing these songs that she couldn't sing about yet
because she was young. So she she needed that time

(19:09):
of like just like her image catching up to her age.
And she was always Her musicality was always crazy. She
loves like old school, like those Amy Winehouse types of
chord progressions, and now she's getting a chance to do
that and it's finally like all adding up for her.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
Says there, you know, you did an episode of The Nanny,
and of course fran Dresher is hot topic. These days
were you able to uh work with her? Did you
get to know her when you did that show?

Speaker 5 (19:35):
I did? This is also another super embarrassing Uh we
love embarrassing first things.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
Yeah, this is.

Speaker 5 (19:43):
I must have been like nine or ten years old.
I had the typical nineties bowl cut. Yeah, and uh
my mom had me doing like extra work back then.
I was in the Screen Actors Guild. We lived in Brooklyn,
so we would run back and forth to the city
all the time. So The Nanny was one of the shows.
And this was my first speaking part that I ever
had on a show. And so the episode is fran

(20:07):
Dresher goes on the Rosi o'donald show and all of
a sudden she leaves the Rosi o' donald show and
she's super famous because whatever happened on the show. So
I am her biggest fan waiting outside for her, and
my line is, oh, my god, the Nanny, can I
have your autograph? And then she says no, And I
turned directly to the camera with this embarrassing bowl cut,

(20:30):
and I don't know how they edited this in, but
my face is like so close to the camera and
I had to be like, She's like all right, all right.
One more autograph, Kid, one more autograph.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
Oh my gosh, it's so funny. I like getting her
group of people together, especially that are in the entertainment industry.
Oh my god. Yes, and we like to say, okay,
bring your most embarrassing or your first thing you've ever done,
and we all have to watch it together. And at
first you think, oh, this is gonna be funny, you know,
but then it kind of just gets even too embarrassing

(21:03):
to watch it, like, oh my god, we should not
have seen this, so so bad. But I mean you
you were doing things before that, because you also started
modeling as a baby.

Speaker 5 (21:16):
Yeah, I did. I did.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
And we need to talk because I'm telling you. We
were scrolling through your Instagram today and your daughter Tatum, Yeah,
like our daughter's twin likes it. So I'm like, oh
my gosh, that is Violet. But it's so great because
our daughter doesn't have hair yet, so now we can

(21:39):
see what she's gonna look like.

Speaker 5 (21:40):
Yes, like, how how old is she?

Speaker 1 (21:44):
She'll be two in October.

Speaker 5 (21:46):
Yeah, so Tatum just turned two in June. The same
thing too. For a long time, it took forever for
her hair to sprout out, and now it's sprouting in
and it's curly. She like Tatum in London. That's my
two daughters. They're three and two. They look like exact
opposites people are. People don't think that they're siblings.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
Looks like our kids too.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
Yeah, we both look they don't look like the same ethnicity,
to be honest.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
She's like she looks like a Russian doll and and
he's like Argentina. Just like they're the lean opposite and
opposite personalities. Being a dad, a new dad, is it
hard for you to balance the work family life, because
I mean what I see on Instagram you are a
very present and fun dad.

Speaker 5 (22:34):
Yeah. Yeah, it's tough. It's like even leaving this morning,
I'm like pulling out of the driveway and they're like
running down and I like stop the car and run
back to give them hugs.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
It's like, I know, once they start crying when you leave.
It's the Wark Wars mad. Do you have any kids?

Speaker 6 (22:51):
I do, I started a little earlier. I have a
twelve and a thirteen year old boy and girl.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
Oh wait, so how's that? How's the teenagers?

Speaker 6 (23:00):
I'm aging very quickly. It's hard. Middle school is tough, man.
I remember when I was in middle school too, it
wasn't easy. But man, kids are not nice and kids
are assholes social media, like you can't escape. When we
were in school, whatever happened at school, you go home,
you kind of escape it. But now kids go home

(23:22):
and they're getting messages on Instagram or social media you
can't escape. Is there's no escape anymore.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
It's so true.

Speaker 5 (23:30):
I know.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
It excures me to think about what kind of world
they're going to be living in when they are in school, Like,
what is the next thing like social media that's going
to just give them the contexes?

Speaker 3 (23:39):
Ever in ten years time, Lord, yeah, it'll be zero
privacy at all.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
No, it's crazy. So now you also audition for American
Idol a couple of times, and I know that process
because I have so many friends that went through that,
and the most talented people I know, like the most
gorgeous voices I know, never made it past the first round.
It's like you had to have that luck of like, yeah,
you'll do, you'll do, you'll do, and you didn't make

(24:05):
it past those first rounds. And I think that's what
made you kind of have a little bad taste your
mouth for the music. Industry. Is that what made you
take a little a break for a while.

Speaker 5 (24:14):
Yeah, that was so that was like that was just
coming off a bad string of stuff. It was like
our group broke up. And then it was then I'm
at the point now where like I took the time
off from college and I'm seeing all my college friends
like either living it up at Upstate or Miami wherever
they went, or they're graduating and they're like starting their
lives now. Yeah, I was just trying to figure out

(24:36):
what to do then. So then it was like American Idol.
I'm like, let me just try out for the show,
like hopefully I get through. Maybe this will spark a
little something. And then when I got cut from that,
that was a moment in my life where I was
like I was working at a warehouse. I didn't even
know what I was doing with my life. It was
like music was the only thing I know. And then
that's that set up me for like just that extreme

(24:58):
fire because then that next like eight months, I was
really just honing in in my room trying to like
write songs and put stuff out. I was building a
little following on MySpace, and then when making the band
came around. That was like, if I didn't have that
fire set from that, I probably wouldn't have even fully
got through the show, because, like I said, it was

(25:18):
so intimidating these people that were there, and it was crazy.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
What songs did you have on your MySpace? I missed MySpace?

Speaker 5 (25:27):
Oh man, Tom Tom was in my top eight. I
think he was in everybody's topic.

Speaker 6 (25:36):
My first friend, I think everyone's first.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
I sold Tom because you know, like the Threads thing
blew up for a day and he was the first
person I sold on Threads. He's like, all right, guys,
are we doing this? It's still the same picture for
my MySpace.

Speaker 5 (25:52):
Yea. Even that though, I remember thinking back like that
was one of the things. So when Facebook first came out,
you needed a dot edu email to sign up for it.
And then I had this girlfriend that we broke up,
and then American Idol, and then she was on Facebook
and I couldn't see what she was doing, so I
was using friends facebooks to try to stalk her and

(26:14):
see what she was doing. All that just like lit
that fire in me that I was like, I'm gonna show,
I'm gonna get famous and just rub it in this girl's.

Speaker 7 (26:21):
Face motivation, It's kind of always the best motivation. Yeah,
career event Yeah, I glow up revenge, Yeah, on.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
The and making the band. You know, at the end
of season four, you end up not making the band
because did he wanted to bring you solo. He thought
that you had what it takes to be you know,
I'm sure he was thinking like justin Timberlake. You know,
so what did you what did you envision your solo
career would look like after doing a show like making

(26:52):
the band?

Speaker 5 (26:52):
Yeah, And then this is where some of the politics
get tough, like when you sign as a new artist,
creative control like goes to the heads of the labels
and especially Diddy. So for me, I was I was
probably more of like doing like neo type of stuff
that I think resonated better with people rather than when

(27:14):
they put me in the studio. I think they were
really trying to pin me as like another justin Timberlake,
And I don't think that reads right to people that
because I mean, as much as we danced in our groups,
I was never like a dancer first. I was that
was always that was more forced than I could make
choreography look good, But it was never that wasn't my
strong point, so that was that was definitely And that's

(27:41):
like what I try to teach people now is like
it gets real when you get signed and that you
you kind of want to have as much leverage as
possible going into your deal, because then if you blow
up off of something that you did, that you believe
in and just works with you, the label is going
to have to continue pushing that you get signed too
quick and you just get signed off your talent or

(28:02):
your look or whatever. It's like they're going to try
to mulge you into what they think is going to work,
and sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
We have in common opening up for Janet Jackson, which
for me was just that was one of my top
highlights of my life. We got to do the Velvet
Rope Tour, so incredible. What was it like for you
to open up.

Speaker 5 (28:37):
For pretty It's pretty opposite actually to end up opening
that tour, but somehow lives on in Wikipedia and all
that because it was what.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
You just just go with it. I find that no one,
no one cares that it was so cool about we're
in a fact free world, so if you say it
over and over again, people just want to believe it.

Speaker 5 (29:00):
There was a point where I just got so to
the point where I was like, yeah, it was amazing.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
She's so yeah, I got that too, Like I hear
things over and about me that's just not true, and
I just now I'm just I go with it. I'm like, Okay,
I'm not even gonna try to some.

Speaker 5 (29:13):
Of the stuff. Like it's been so long and I've
just become such a regular human being that I don't
remember what actually happened and what didn't happen.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
I mean, I better probably is like a dream.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
Yeah, so what are we working on for the Baccy
Boys though? The Boys talking with the Enemy? Oh my gosh.

Speaker 5 (29:35):
So I'll just throw this out there. As much as
I love both groups, I was definitely more of an
InSync fan, but uh, for them, this was when Kevin
wasn't in the group.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
Okay, yeah, so.

Speaker 5 (29:48):
This is like two thousand and eight, and then he.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
Left a little bit because he wanted to do acting.
I think he was trying to do the acting thing
for a few years.

Speaker 5 (29:56):
But it was awesome. It was like so for me,
it's like I got thrown in to this world as
a solo artist where I was so used to singing
in my groups, so that tour was cool for me
because it was like I was hanging out with the boys,
throwing a football around before the show's like going into
soundcheck and just like that camaraderie feeling. I got a
chance to kind of like have that again, and then

(30:18):
especially with a group like that, Like it's like I
grew up, I was inspired by you guys, so to
have a chance to do that was super cool.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
It's funny because you know, back in the day, guys
really didn't admit that they liked and Sync. You know,
It's like it was sometimes just not cool to say
that you liked a group like that. But I've noticed
now that we're older and like, you know, the fans
are talking just like the guys. For some reason, guys
really went to our group. So I don't know, what
is that? Why as a guy, did you like in

(30:50):
sync over back straight? You know what?

Speaker 3 (30:52):
I think it's because because every guy secretly wanted to
be in a want to be all like exactly like
Sally loving it because they want to be integ I
mean I did, I for sure was I.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
I who would turn that down? Here here's the world
and here's the world for us.

Speaker 5 (31:15):
We're probably the wrong people to ask because what we
love and what we grew up on, but it's like
for us to me that that was the exact dream,
like the the I guess back then it might have
even been VHS tapes, but maybe it was DVDs, but
like the documentaries on you guys, and then seeing the
europe tour and looking out those windows and the thousands

(31:36):
of people, just that sea of the crowd. And then
even like like we were saying, the artist development part
of it, like we getting a chance to peek in
and see a lot of what you guys went through.
That to me was the dream. That was like what
I envisioned was that was the dream, like going through
that process, getting molded and shaped and getting your talents
to the best of their abilities, and then getting this

(31:57):
hit song, Like going into the studio and working on
a bunch of songs until you know you found the hit,
and then that hit song and then you have radio
stations playing at NonStop back then with the the VMAs
and everything. So that to me is one of the
most iconic moments in pop culture history that I still
reference and I still use to motivate a lot of

(32:19):
the artists that we coach today. I use three different things.
I use Whitney's National Anthem. I think at the super Bowl,
I use Beyonce's Super Bowl halftime show, and then I
use in syncs VMA's two thousands. That performance ahead that's
just like it was so ahead of its time. And

(32:39):
then like you're dancing and really singing live and they
had your mic on too loud for that split second
and then they lower it and it's like just that
those moments to me, that's iconic because it shows like
you guys were really singing and really moving and running
and dancing and like it's insane. That's like that to me,
that's what I use to show people like this is
the level you need to aspire to get to.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
I mean, it's great, and it's really about your team.
I mean, it's really linking up with those those people
that can make you who you're supposed to be and
that you know, for us, Wade Robson is one who
created that amazing performance. You know, if it was just
put up to us five guys, it wouldn't have looked
like that. So you know, the right vocal coach the
right choreographer, the right manager. The team is what really

(33:23):
takes your talent to the next level. Were you could
you all easily find that group of people for your career, Like,
did you have that person you could always like create
and get with me that Okay, this is what we're doing.

Speaker 5 (33:36):
Tough we were, we were doing a lot of it ourselves.

Speaker 6 (33:38):
Yeah, and five boys trying to do it themselves. It's
a nightmare.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
Yeah, yeah, five different personality. It's hard to always say.
It's like wrangling cats. It's a really reunion in twenty
three years.

Speaker 5 (33:51):
Yeah, you know, it's insane.

Speaker 6 (33:54):
That actually was like the downfall of us. We never
had that like real team. None of our families came
from music.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
You know.

Speaker 6 (34:02):
We got involved with Matthew Knowles. I don't know if
that was the greatest thing for us. So yeah, that's
what I mean, that's what we do now in our studio.
We put together teams for people.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
You know, that's great and especially in the world where
everyone gets so taken advantage of right now, especially an artists,
it's it's like, how how have we not learned our lesson? Guys?
Like I even did a documentary on how Lou Proman
screwed us all, but like people still will sign that
contract at sixteen years old.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
Well, when it's presented to you, you know, it's like,
well it's this or nothing. So most of the time
like you're just gonna take whatever.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
And everyone thinks, oh, first contract's bad. I can renegotiate.
You can't renegotiate.

Speaker 5 (34:41):
Yeah, that's where that's where I was at. Actually I was.
We signed our deals just to audition for the show.
So that's like almost even worse off. And you win
and you basically sit with a lawyer that shows you
what you signed. There's no room for negotiation or anything.
It's just like, so here it is. This is what
it is. And for years I was stuck in that contract.

(35:04):
I didn't get out of that until like twenty thirteen,
and then twenty ten I had def jam flew me out.
They were trying to like get me out of my contract.
They flew me down to Atlanta, they they put me up.
I worked with producers. I made like eight or nine songs,
and then I got back and it just took too
long to get out of the deal. So it's tough.

(35:26):
You gotta really be careful what you signed.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
You do. Who was the most exciting person that you've
met through this business?

Speaker 5 (35:35):
Oh? Actually, you never read a story, how est a
story of how I met you?

Speaker 2 (35:39):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (35:40):
Yet of that?

Speaker 1 (35:40):
So the most exciting person that was me? Okay story.

Speaker 5 (35:45):
This was justin Timberlake was having a grand opening for
the restaurant Southern Hospitality. I think it was called There's
a Barbecue Place in the City. And this was when
I was just starting my making the band stuff, and
the first couple of shows had so the PR team
had any going and stuff like this, so I ended
up going. I hung out with you guys. We were

(36:06):
playing beer pong in like the back downstairs area and
me and you were on the same team. Actually played, Yeah,
but JT was knocking our shots out when we didn't
bounce it, so he was playing a little.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
Of course, of course we.

Speaker 5 (36:23):
Would have won.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
Yeah, well, if we would have done flip cup, I
really would have kicked his ass. All right, So that's
that's my game. That's my game. He's still going to
Oh yeah, I think correct. No, maybe it's not open, No,
never mind, it closed, never mind. It was really good.
It was good so other food. While it lasted, I
had a lot of his grandmother's recipes in there. It's
really cute. It's really cool when you've been on State.

(36:45):
You know, the big thing right now is uh, assholes
throwing things an artists on stage and then of course
Miranda Lambert scolding someone taking a selfie. So have you
ever had a moment on stage where you've been hit?
And what do you think about this new trend of artists
trying to be nailed by things?

Speaker 5 (37:04):
Yeah, that's that's ridiculous. I saw got nailed with like
a thirty six g bra or something.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
Well, at least that wouldn't hurt as much as a
freaking beer bottle.

Speaker 5 (37:14):
I do remember because a lot of I mean, the
level that we got to on the show was never
really that big. We did a couple like five thousand
seat places. Maybe that was the biggest we we really
got to. But a lot of our bread and butter
was doing the after club performances after and of course
those will get rowdy everybody's drinking, So that used to
happen to us very frequently, with like beer bottles or

(37:38):
water bottles or anything like that. It was it was insane.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
Yeah, I remember, it only happened to us in Europe
when we started over, because we lived in Germany the
first couple of years. And yeah, that we'd get a
lot of beer bottles thrown at us because we do
those festivals right where those aren't your fans and it's
you know, and some festivals go to like three in
the morning, and you'd go on at three and just
everyone's wasted and you're just dodging beer bottles as you're

(38:03):
dancing on stage. I miss the days when they just
would throw plushies on stage. It's just soft teddy bears
whatever that. Yeah, that's up, all right. We have a
frosted tip we'd like to get from you guys. So
you're someone who has heard no from this industry a
couple of times before, and you know, before you got

(38:24):
your big break. What's the advice you can give people
who keep hearing no over and over and over again
and whatever their career path is, what makes you keep going?

Speaker 5 (38:34):
Yeah, I mean it's it's definitely like what you do
with that no. Like I said, there was I could
have like turned away after the whole American Idol situation
and even after our group. I can't even tell you
like the Matthew Knowles is just one of a hundred
things that happened with our group and the entertainment business specifically.
It's like whenever you're pouring your heart into something, it's

(38:57):
very easy to get let down that much harder and
get your heartbroken over it because here you are. And
that's why people probably sign those crazy deals, because it's
like this is all you want, This is going to
change your parents' life, or this is like you've dreamt
about this since you were a little kid, or it
didn't happen for my parents, so now I'm going to
make it happen like whatever happened with our groups, we

(39:18):
had and people take advantage of that. So it's just
about being very careful and just continuing to always make
it about why you first started doing it, and just
when you're writing your music, don't try to conform to
what people are doing now. If Olivia Rodrigo put hop
punk into the music world now and everybody's trying to

(39:39):
now make stuff pop punk again, don't let that change
what you were doing. Still continue to be you and
then take every single note and just use it as fuel,
use it as motivation, and get to your next no
the more knows you get to, the closer you getting
too that. Yes, yeah, it.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
Does make you stronger, but it still hurts. It's the business.
We have some fan questions for y'all. So this is
from Ti Ryan. Go ahead, okay, fan questions.

Speaker 3 (40:11):
We have tif Ran What is your favorite memory touring
with Day twenty six and Danny the game?

Speaker 5 (40:18):
Oh wow, yeah, so I'm yeah from what I can remember,
so I do remember. There was the so Danny Kane
was back then similar to they had the presence of
like an in sync where five of them that like

(40:40):
Powerhouse and like us coming into the show. They were
famous already and we were like, I was a fan
of them. So when we did our tour together, it
was so much fun. This was like finally my chance.
The tour bus, the bunk beds, the stop in every
state and then running into hotels, leaving at four am

(41:00):
for the radio shows, and we were all doing that together.
We got super close. And then the l A show
ended our tour and I got pulled out as a
surprise and got a lap dance on stage from all
five members of Danny Kane.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
And it was that's nice. We see Aubrey like every
once in a while, every once.

Speaker 5 (41:23):
In a while, so I stay in touch with her.
Actually everybody, I probably talked to her most frequently.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
No, she's she's great. Uh she was. Some just came
out with her right with Donald Trump Junior, like something
like she's relationship. She's been speaking about it again because
they dated for a day or so.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
No more than I did remember years ago.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
I remember her telling us that, But I was like,
I feel like it's comprehending that she was really talking.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
When I was finally talking about it. Podcasts are all
the dirty.

Speaker 5 (42:01):
Aubrey's story is when they first took me day twenty
six and put us with Dannady Kane that we were
now filming this making the band was kind of turning
into the real world, and we were all moving into
a house together. We sat behind cameras and we were like,
let's fake a relationship. Let's make this like even crazier,
and then we actually kind of did get close and

(42:22):
then just things. What happened was they flew us off
to Miami. We were living in Miami, we were working
with different producers and one of the producers' names was Donnie,
and Aubrey messed around with this Donnie, and then the
word was getting around and then the cameras spun this

(42:42):
that Aubrey and Donnie d last night, and then it
just turned into this big thing and it's good.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
Is good for usure? Yeah, there's another fan question from
Tracy Wheley twenty four.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
Or do you do people ever refer to this question?
Do people ever refer to you as Doctor Love?

Speaker 5 (43:07):
Like? Yes, So, I mean it happens. It happens very
infrequently now, So it's like I'm at a random place
and it'll happen. Like I'm sitting at Applebee's with my
wife and kids, and it's like the waitress comes up
and she's like, you doctor Love, so.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
You don't introduce your I was like, I'm Donnie, but
you can call me doctor Love.

Speaker 5 (43:33):
I definitely used to stay it into that role a little,
uh too. Seriously back in the day.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
Yeah, this is from Irish the Pen. Do you have
any unreleased songs from Just a Rolling Stone you think
could have potentially been a hit?

Speaker 5 (43:50):
So, I mean, yeah, that was that was a that
was a huge problem. So I know, so Irish the
Pen he was on a show back in the day too.
I follow him on social media. He's a cool dude.
What's up. But we we had a whole album made
that so I vibed really well with this producer named seven.
He was big. He did a lot of Ashanti stuff

(44:12):
in the two thousands and then me and him, he
just I give him the credit of what you were saying,
like what Wade Robson kind of did for you guys
live with your tour and stuff. He's the guy that
kind of helped me find that just like person that
I was becoming that brand, the sound changing my tone.

(44:32):
Like back then here I was going through vocal coaches
and like singing trying to sing perfectly. He was the
guy that came in and he was like, no, we
got to rough that up. And he's he just like
took my whole studio experience to another level where it
was like so he came from like Prince's camp and
he would have doves in the room and he would
have a five machine going and we would have candles

(44:52):
and burn sage and like he just.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
Like said, ura do this for a podcast. Yeah, this
is pretty great, some great ideas there.

Speaker 5 (45:05):
So still to this day that's like we do it
when we get into our real creative sessions. That's what
we do in here, and he's like, he kind of
gave us that whole like tone and mood just to
create an experience in an environment that you get into
and you just like like disconnect from reality.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
Nice. So who should we be looking forward to? Do you?
Do you know what new artists are about to come out?
Anyone you're working with right now that you need to
let us know about.

Speaker 5 (45:32):
Yeah, I mean, we we have a few. So there's
one I definitely want to mention, especially to the followers
of your podcast, that I feel like would love this dude, Douggy. Yeah,
so if you follow at it, Dougie, doug Right, this
kid is extremely talented and he's he's just he has

(45:54):
the whole entire package. So when you guys, when you
guys check them out and everybody that's on here file
and you'll see what I'm talking about. He could dance,
he could sing, he has the look. We also have
an artist that we've been kind of taken under our
wing that we worked with for a long time. She
goes by Sammy sv MMI you can find her.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
Like a little Jake. Actually, yeah, I love that.

Speaker 5 (46:17):
Yes, I know what happens here. It's like, we work
with a lot of extremely talented people and it's like
exactly what you said. You hear these people with these
golden voices, and it's like, how did they get cut
from Round one of American Idol where they could probably
out sing everybody that made it onto the show. In
the twelve years we've had this studio, it's like there's
been a couple of people that I've been like, this

(46:39):
person is definitely gonna make it, but they just never
got that big break, or they gave up too soon.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
I mean, I can pick her up, especially these days.
You know, when I grew up, you know, in the
eighties and nineties, there were no competition shows, there were
no making the bands. There wasn't any kind of thing
you could watch on TV and be like, ooh, I
could do that. Well, then when the American Idols and
making the band started, so all these kids that are born,
you know, at two years old, and they're watching these shows,

(47:06):
they start dreaming of it right then. So they got
such they got more of a head start than all
of us did. They started training since they were so young.
So now the prop of talent out there is insane.
I mean, look at the voice, all those incredible, incredible
talented people and you don't even know one of their names,
Like the best singers in the world, and not one
of them has really hit right there? How much talent.

Speaker 5 (47:30):
Yeah, it's so oversaturated. I mean, that's even everything in general.
It's like social media, YouTube, these TV shows. We warn
a lot of artists about that getting onto these shows.
That's still not the holy grail. It's like the shows
are almost more about the judges now and their stories
and the stuff that's happening between them, and then they
put music out after the season ends, and their albums

(47:52):
and single releases do very good, and then the people
on the shows get forgotten about. They're afraid to do anything.
That's one of the big pieces of advice we give
to people was like, you're signing these crazy contracts, non disclosures.
They tell you don't post on social media. We're like,
just do it. You get this fifteen minutes of fame
that people are looking for your account while your one

(48:13):
or two episodes aired.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
We do.

Speaker 5 (48:17):
We get people ready, we like pre film content and
tell them like, don't be afraid, don't let the contracts
scare you into wasting your chance to capitalize on the
people coming to see your page.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
Yeah, I mean, like I always say, you know, it's
when that opportunity, you know, the success is what's the
calculation of success. It's opportunity plus us. It's one of
those things, one of those success we're so good, we're
so good at giving great advice on the show preparation.

(48:54):
It's opportunity able to success. So yeah, you got to
take advantage of that. All right, Matt and Johnnie, I
need to hear what y'all are watching right now. We
like to give our listeners some good recommendations of what
we're binging, what movies we're seeing. So what are we
what are we watching? Question? That's a good question.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
Any TV shows?

Speaker 5 (49:14):
So a ton of Doc mcstuffians, Spidey and his amazing friends.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
Are y'all into Blue?

Speaker 5 (49:24):
Yet? Blue been a little tough to get into any
shows for me right now? With the babies, it's just
been like baby Land.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
What about you, Matt? With teenagers? Do you get to
watch The Bachelor a little bit? Maybe?

Speaker 6 (49:43):
Like Outer Banks?

Speaker 1 (49:44):
I think that was? I love Outer Banks. I know
I saw the first season, loved it, and then I
just found out a couple of weeks ago. There's now
five seasons and I've been listed all pretty cool, pretty cool. Well,
we had them on. We had them on my old
radio show, first premiere it first came out, and man,
those those fans are crazy guys. Back on they were great.

(50:08):
All right, guys, Well this has been awesome getting to
know you. Guys. We definitely want to stay in touch
with you, So tell everyone how everyone can stay in
touch with you on social media.

Speaker 5 (50:17):
Yes, you could follow our studio account. It's at Loft
Sound Studio. It's l Oft probably see it all behind
us here, and then my account's at Donnie Klang. My
TikTok pretty much just started blowing up. After our group
got back together. We posted we so our group moved
all over the country. One guys in Arizona and one

(50:39):
guys in Maryland. We finally got together for the first
time in fifteen years. We posted a singing clip and
it got like over a millillion overnight.

Speaker 1 (50:48):
Wait, wait, so you were burying the lead. So the
band's back together, what else? Or so, what's happening after this?

Speaker 6 (50:53):
Now? While everybody's back, we started making some originals again.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
Really nice.

Speaker 5 (50:59):
It's very hard with you know, adult life and kids,
and especially the fact that that half of everybody is
living out of state.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
Yeah, that's hard, you know. You know, I'm friends with
the Otown guys and Backstreet Boys, and you know what,
they just make it work, and especially with Otown because
they are just in every city. Some have little kids.
But you know, it's just all about communication and saying, Okay,
look guys, like obviously being dad is number one, but
let's figure out how like this is the amount of

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time I need off, this is what I can do.
Just so as long as everyone's on the same page.

Speaker 5 (51:34):
We sang, we sang all or nothing down, We just
sang of course quick and the video we just kept
refreshing it. It was like one hundred thousand, two hundred thousand.
We were like, that was great day for the first time.
We get back together in fifteen years. And the first
thing we post and.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
Give the people what they want, they'll.

Speaker 5 (51:52):
Tell you what about you? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (51:54):
What about you?

Speaker 2 (51:54):
Guys?

Speaker 6 (51:55):
What about a reunion?

Speaker 2 (51:56):
You guys have to get back together now.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
Well we'll work on that. We'll work on that. So guys,
thank you so much for joining us. Les want to
stay in touch now we're going to follow you on
our tiktop helps blow your st up because we give
you know, we give people the frosted tips.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
Oh yeah, the frost tips.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
Fro the frosted tips.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
It used to be the dirty pop bump upgrade.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
Yeah, yeah, we've I mean we started doing leap up.
I mean, prove me wrong, prove me wrong.

Speaker 5 (52:19):
I can't tell you how long we both had frosted tips.
I think you still have frost tips, right.

Speaker 3 (52:26):
Right.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
I'm just going to like purple now, so this will
eventually purple tips.

Speaker 5 (52:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
All right, guys, So good to meet you, meet you again,
and uh, we'll talk to you again very soon. Congratulations
on everything.

Speaker 8 (52:39):
Yeah, thanks, guys, have a good one.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
What lovely guys. I like getting to know people too.
This is what I love about the show. Most of
the people we've had on already have known and it's smart,
you know. It's like I'm asking the questions that I
already know you know the answer. With interviews like this
where I don't really know anything about them, it's just
so it's so interesting to me because I don't know
what's happened.

Speaker 3 (53:14):
I think it's better interviews in a lot of the ways,
because like you're really actively listening to the answers. Before,
when you know the answers, you're not half listening because
you've heard the story so many times.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
Now you're actually like hanging on to everywhere.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
Yeah yeah, really good guys. I'll be following them and
now following them on TikTok.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
The band's back together, getting the band back together.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
Most they would have done that after frosted Tips, because
then we could have claimed that we got two groups
back together. I know, yeah, because that's what we're doing the
awards worker you are, yeah, yeah, getting the bands back together.

Speaker 5 (53:42):
Guy.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
Amen, All right, guys, we are off to play group
right now. So our kids, yeah, they're in this like
summer camp they call it, but it's an hour out
of basically a playground. They do it twice a week
and it's so funny because our kids, so we go,
it's going to be our preschool and uh and it's
just it's the most incredible little play I mean, I

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want to live in this playground.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
You too.

Speaker 1 (54:08):
But you know, they sit in circles and read books
and they sing songs. They do these little you know,
little activities. Except our kids, Oh yeah, ours are the
only ones that will not send a circle. And our
kids don't even play with each other violence in the
treehouse over here, and he's pushing buttons over here, and
he's pouring water on things, just doing his own little

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thing all by himself, like total loaners as everyone's being
perfect and little sitting in their parents' lap. So yeah,
we have very independent children. They are very uh.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
Going to do it.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
But this is second week, so I'm excited to let
them go have fun. And they're meeting all these little friends.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
I'm having the best time there too.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
Oh yeah, it's a good time.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
I'm selviously going for myself.

Speaker 1 (54:51):
We have to we need to bring a backup of
clothes because I didn't know that there would be water, yea,
And they to go to the water and dump it
on each other's heads.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
I mean, Alexander just takes the water and just pards
it on himself like like that's an active.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
Oh we've got to tell our big milestone, all right. So,
oh my god, we should have discussed this. We are
now getting into the potty training, which I didn't think
we would get into so early, but they started, you know,
hadn't you know? Looking at their being like.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
Oh Pepe. Maybe they're saying people aware now.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
Uh so Alexander sat on his little toilet twice twice
now and did a pooh. We have it pooh, folks,
and we have it on and we have a nice
photo which we're not going to going to share it
because he will kill us in the future.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
Yeah, let's not. Let's not show our children's poop.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
No no, but we're very proud of it. Could have
been an accident, but it was it.

Speaker 3 (55:45):
It happened twice we did, and then I made him
sit on the toilet another time. And I can see
him try to make you squeeze in and a little
too came out instead.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
Well you we have to teach him don't squeezeoids or
is blue?

Speaker 2 (55:57):
He says, A fluffy A fluffee.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
All right, guys, that's all the show we have for you.
Be good to each other, don't drink and drivet, take
care of those animals. We'll see you next time on
Frosted Tests. But until then, say frosted Hey, thanks for listening.
Follow us on Instagram at Frosted Tips with Lance and
Michael Turchinard and at Lance bast for all your pop

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culture needs

Speaker 3 (56:21):
And make sure to write us a review and leave
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