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July 17, 2023 74 mins

We’re LUCKY to have Jason Mraz!

 

The singer, songwriter and guitarist joins Lance for an intimate conversation from his early days at the roller rink and borrowing suits from friends to finally achieving success. 

 

For Jason, through all his ups and downs, the most difficult part of his journey was coming out to his family as bisexual.  What does the future hold for Jason Mraz? He reveals all to Lance

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
This is Frosted Tips with Lance Bassario podcast. Hello, my
little bee Nuts, It's me your host, Lance Bass. This
is Frosted Tips with me Lance Bass and my beautiful
co host husband Extraordinary Turkey Turk. Wow, that was a
great intro. Better at your intro song. That was really

(00:25):
good and very accurate. If it sounds like I smoked
a whole pack of cigarettes, um that's not the case.
We get one warm day in LA and my sinuses
go crazy. You're gonna, I know you st you here
this during the show and um, yeah, we're not dying. Right,
there's been nuts. I mean, I'm I don't need to
complain because I personally like a little chilly weather with

(00:47):
you know, sun uh. But usually at this point it's
one hundred and ten degrees and it's like sixty degrees.
It's still cold and night. What is going on? It's nice,
but then yeah, when it warms up, just the pollen
under I don't know, it just really gets to me
and I and it's only been the last few years
has been doing this. I've lived in California twenty years now,
off and on, but I've never had this problem until

(01:11):
the last three or four years. I think it's all
the US COVID, it's all uf sightings I've been happening
the way we have. We do need to do a
show about the UFO sightings because it's getting more and more.
I know every day there's a new we're talking about it.
If it's so proven, now, why isn't this the lead stories?
Because I get all my news from TikTok and it's
obviously all correct. But they're saying there's been there's a
big heavy like government puts back on releasing anything stuff.

(01:35):
But I thought the government was releasing things. Well, I
think they were just releasing some things to appease people.
But I I don't still don't think they're releasing everything. Well,
and do you think it's because if they released the
truth and it's kind of like overwhelming, um, that people
would freak out. Well, I think that's part of it.
And I also think I think the I think people

(01:55):
would actually come more together and we're like, oh, it's
I would just hope that the world would come together
and be like if they were peaceful, obviously of course, um,
but you know, I would think we finally look at
each other like, Wow, we're really in this together. And
we need to all kind of you know, protect this
little blue dot. We would like that. Yeah, but you
know the world is burning down as we speak, and
what's happening. We're not getting together, you know our old show.

(02:17):
I loved a conspiracy Thursday, But this one kind of
seems like the conspiracy is being broken. But we'll see again.
It should be if this was true, if there's really, really, really,
really really proof of alien existence, it would be the
top story on every newsroom. No, it's all it's all
working together. It is on news. They show things on

(02:38):
news all the time, but it's always kind of down play.
I'm saying, if it was for real, real real, would
just be Lance. You just don't know. I do, You're
just not in it. But before we start our interview,
I just yeah, we have Jacks on the show, and
I'm so excited. Oh yeah him before. I love anytime
there's a interview on. I'm always like listening to his

(03:00):
It's he's really well spoken. Yes, so the pubby likes
him too. In the in the distance. Um, but before
we start this interview, I actually I am going to
interview you via a fan question. It's only one question
was a very small interview. I call this a frosted flake.
Did you just come up with that? Literally, it just

(03:21):
came up with that. So I'm gonna hate you with
this hard hitting frosted flake. This message came in from
Megam on Instagram. Hi Meggan, Megam, do you have any
weird hobbies or interests weird? I mean, I don't think
any of my interests are weird. Okay, we'll start listening

(03:41):
them now. Um. The thing is I have too many interests. Yeah,
I do. It's just it's which is a downfall for me,
because I do. I have like I'm interested in so
many things that I don't really have time to I
don't know, really really focus into one. Yeah, it's true.
That's why I'm a what do you do? They say?
An expert none? So like, oh yeah, you're you're something

(04:05):
of all but a yeah, a master of nine, like
a student of all, an expert of NNE or something,
I don't know. That's that's how I feel like I
think I'm like good at many things. Yeah, but I'm
not great at anything. Yeah you are, I'm not. You're
great and so many things but I have, but yeah,
I love thank some of them. It's a horrible interests interests. Um,

(04:26):
oh my gosh, Well you tell me you know my interests. Well,
you have a big interest in feeding wildlife around our property.
It spends all the animals feeding, uh, rabbits, rabbits, And
I have all kinds of gardening. You love gardening. I
do love gardening. Yeah, I love space. I love music obviously.
You like puzzles, love puzzles. I love my children. Well

(04:50):
that's I shouldn't. I guess raising your children shouldn't be
a hobby. It's more of a duty. You know. Sometimes
it feels like a hobby, right, because when you're having
so much fun, of course, it's like a hobby. Um. Yeah,
I mean again, I just have I have so many interests.
It just it all just kind of Do you have
any weird habits? Again, you tell me you're the one
who sees me. I don't know some of the things
I do weird habits, weird habits. I mean, you're not

(05:14):
that weird. I don't have anything that you're like, oh
my god, he always does this little tick. Well you
weird have Yeah? Well, you have habits of again, you
like to when it comes to quantities or explaining something,
you tend to put like an exponent on the quantity
of everything has to be dramatic. Yes, everything's dramatized to
either be more or less depending on how the story

(05:35):
needs to go, because I need people to feel how
dire it is. You know, when I say there were
you know, twenty million people at all. But the problem
that felt like to the people around you is believes
you things when you say it literally. So I always
have to go and I feel like an asshole after
I go and sprinkle the truth, after I exaggerate so
much that there's no way you can believe it. But

(05:56):
it's not true, because the amount of people that go
to me like, really that true, No, that's not true,
Well then they should know it's it's it's a thing
you really believe I do. I do. Damon's control behind
when she leaves the scene, Oh Giggles is here, and
she's reminded me of the Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade debacle,
where I thought, what fifty people were coming over for Thanksgiving?

(06:19):
Which I did think fifty people we were, We did
have a lot of people invited, and then maybe eight
people showed up, and then I was on air and
they're like, what are you doing. I'm like, oh, I'm
having a Thanksgiving for like fifty people, but only eight
showed up. But you know, I quantity, it could have
gotten to fifty. I've had parties that went well built,

(06:40):
you know. So yeah, he does that with parties too.
He's like, we're gonna have a most forty people are
gonna have a pool party, and then ninety eight people
show up and he's like, well, I had to invite
the person I met at the story. Not exaggerating, that's
just being popular. Oh good, Okay, you know what, this
is a horrible interview. We're gonna put this in the archives.
It's a burnt It's one of those little burnt frosted

(07:02):
flakes you get, you know, sometimes you get the little
black frosted flake that's burnt in the pack interview, but
you know it's the first ones. We got bugs in it.
Let's move on to let's get to Jason Raz and
take a little bread. We come back. We're gonna have
Jason Razz. Jason Thomas Moraz is an American singer, songwriter

(07:34):
and guitarist. Born and raised in Virginia, he rose to
prominence with the release of his debut studio album, Waiting
for My Rocket to Come in two thousand and two,
which spawned the single The Remedy that reached the top
twenty of Billboard Hot one hundred chart. His next two
studio albums, Mister A to Z and We Sing, We Dance,
We Steal Things, peaked in the top five on the
Billboard two hundred, with the latter album spawning the Grammy

(07:56):
Award winning singles Make It Mine and Lucky with Kobe Klay.
Jay just released his eighth studio A Mystical, Magical, Rhythmical,
Radical Ride, which is the you Have the Best Titles
Ever In June, Jason Browse, Welcome to Frosted Tips. My man, hey,
thanks for having me on your programs. To be here.
We have definitely been looking forward to this interview. Love

(08:19):
you so much. But let's take it back from the
beginning because on the show we'd like to really get
to know what it was like at the very beginning
for you. So you grew up in a small town
in Virginia. What's town was this? This was Richmond, Virginia,
but we were a suburb of Richmond. We were called Mechanicsville, Virginia.
So it was. It was a fine place to grow up,

(08:40):
specifically because we did have music arts band in our
public schools. Yeah, and that was a big deal, you know,
to go from second grade to be introduced to music
in fifth grade, given a recorder, sixth grade, you could
choose music as an elective, you know. So props to
hand over County Education for giving us arts because it

(09:04):
kept my grade point average, yeah, where it needed to
be to get the heck out of there. And it
shows you right there why it is so important for
us to keep the arts in school. I think it's
so insane that it's twenty twenty three and we're still
trying to fight for the arts and schools like it's
a bad thing, like they're trying to get rich. It's so,
what do you think about that? Why do you think

(09:24):
arts is so attacked in our public schools? That is
a good question. I really don't know. Just a few
years to go here in San Diego, about eighty student
eighty teachers were let go specifically from the arts education
programs across the city. And I don't know why. When
they look at budget cuts, they just they they look
at finger painting and music as something that can be

(09:46):
done outside of school with the parents or in after
school programs, which is why there's so many nonprofits supporting
arts education, because you can't always get it in the
regular school curriculum. But I don't know why that is.
I don't. I wish I could answer that question. I mean,
we don't have a national Endowment for artists, you know,

(10:07):
to live on like other countries have. We don't have
a Minister of the Arts in our government that oversees
the arts as a beautiful part of our culture. Um,
so we gotta do it. Rogue on podcasts like this,
you know, we gotta go gorilla. I'm gonna let's call
it President Biden right now, Okay, and the Ministry of
the Arts, because that is such a great idea, because

(10:29):
we don't. We have data after data saying that the arts,
especially music, it helps gets It makes you smarter, it
makes you better in different subjects. Yeah, it just opens
your mind. I think that's the thing. Well, especially with
the arts. You know, we usually when you're in the
arts kind of you learn just about different people. It's
more an empathetic thing to be in the arts. You

(10:51):
open up your mind more, and I think that's scary
to a lot of people. Yeah, exactly. So growing up,
what did you listen to? What kind of music? Uh?
Were you really into? What? What? What got you going? Um?
I was. I'm I'm glad we're having this conversation because
there's some parts of my child I've never shared with anyone,
but I'm going to share them here with you too. Yes,

(11:13):
this seems like the this is the thread you know
when I look at your podcast and who's on air
and who's listening. Um, So I grew up listening to
the radio, and I grew up going to a roller
skating rink. So, um, that was pretty much you know,
the pop charts, the top the top of the pops,
I guess, um, I don't know if you remember an

(11:33):
act um around eighty nine ninety called PC Quest. Oh
this act. I think they're out of Oklahoma. I don't think.
I do think they good for pop charts. Quest They
were a cute act. They were cute act young, very
young act um. But I was a follower of theirs,

(11:55):
as well as a few other unique bands that inspired
my friends and I to create our own little act.
And so around eighth grade we were called Double Trouble Yeah.
We would go out and perform mostly dance and lip sync.
But then we caught the eye of another local act

(12:19):
called Dressed to Kill. Okay, and then I got tapped
by Dressed to Kill to join them. You got poached.
I got poached. And I was thirteen singing like the
high range, like Michael Jackson songs. So we would sing
Jackson five covers um and they were all in college,
so they were all like to me, they were men,

(12:39):
you know, and we were a boy band. We were
Dressed to Kill. We had dance moves, outfits, and this
is something I've not really shared with the world, and
I'm happy to post pictures when this podcast calls out.
Definitely that My next question, Well, Lance's first boy band
was in a group called Seven Card Studs, so it's
like right there. We did more medals of the fifties

(13:01):
and sixties and we wore vests that were shiny um.
But yeah, we all had our first boy bands. And
I'm so glassye. I knew I needed you on the
show for a reason, and it is yeah, and then
Double Trouble was no more. He was then Single Mingle.
Do you keep up with any of these guys? No? Um,

(13:24):
one of them I ran into in Houston about two
years ago. We were on tour. But I'd really love
to find some track down some of the other guys,
just see how they're doing. So how did how did
the band disband? What was the ending? Um? We were
together a couple of years and we would play random
gigs around Richmond, Virginia. UM, some big, well you know,

(13:49):
publicized events, and somewhere, you know, it was midnight after
a boxing match and there were just a few people
left in the center, you know, but we were there
to do our gig. So I think, Um, after a
couple of years of it really not taking off, people
had to find other jobs, other work. I was then
going into high school, was getting more involved in drama

(14:11):
and chorus and had homework and things, and then started
to see a path for me going through musical theater.
So the band just kind of naturally slowed down and dismantled. Sadly.
I love the story so much. Um, I cannot wait
to see these pictures and of course this right now,
they're going to be on our Instagram page. I'm sure sure, yeah,

(14:32):
I'll make sure you get a copy of Dressed to Kill.
I'm sure you're what was your style like dress wise? Um,
I was borrowing suits from a friend of mine who had,
you know, suits, I didn't have any suits prior to
being and dressed to kill, but they had shiny suits,
big shoulder pads. Used to you know, you have to

(14:57):
have a look exactly. We went to one meeting with
some kind of talent consultant and we didn't we didn't
have the look on. And he even mentioned that he's like,
you know, if you're called dressed to kill, you can
need you guys need to look dressed to kill when
you walk in the door. So my husband here showed
me a picture I forgot. I guess I was in
another boy band before seven card stood, Um, this is

(15:19):
me and oh yeah, barbershop quartet in the fourth grade.
So barbershop boytet. Yet we love a nice boy tetes.
So when did you start writing your own music? Was
that early on in your life or did you just
yeah that later eighth grade when I was in double trouble,

(15:40):
I was making wraps um and I would and I
would just sing them over whatever material I could find,
and so I would usually in the backside of my
cassette single of whoever I was buying, and so, for example,
C and C Music Factory would have instrumental on side B,
and so I'd sing my song over the instrumental and

(16:01):
then using a bunch of tape recorders, record my voice
onto that tape recorder and I could get them to
play it at the roller rink on the weekends and
it sounded like a mastered C and C Music Factory track,
but with some different DJ vocal or something. So I
was getting the thrill really early on in eighth grade

(16:22):
of like recording music and would just to kill I
got to go into the studio and record a jingle
and I got so that was my first time in
a recording studio. So I got the bug in eighth grade,
probably thirteen prior to that, I was making up songs
from the piano, but not really knowing what I was doing,
but I knew I was like being creative and inventing stuff.
So after eighth grade, it was like cassio, keyboard, get

(16:45):
into a tape machine, drum, little drum, demo beats and
making up songs or you know, people I liked in
high school or things that I think would make me
laugh and buy college. I had no other interest. I
kind of lost interest in everything except making up songs.

(17:09):
Like that to me was like this magic trick that
I could do. And so in in college, people would
come to me and give me a random object and say,
make a song out of this. So it a candle
or a doctor pepper can or an ashtray or just
random stuff. So basically like freestyling. Yeah, And I would
grab my guitar and freestyle these songs into existence. And

(17:32):
that was that was it for me. I quit every
other plan I possibly could have had, auditioning for musical theater,
all of that, it just went right out the window,
and I decided I would pursue original music. Did you
ever have any aspirations besides entertainment. No. In fact, in

(17:53):
high school, when we would have like a career day,
a type of day, or you know, a conversation and
I would hear people say I'm going into economics or finance,
or I'm going to go into management. I did not
understand what they were talking about. I seriously looked at
the whole room as if I was the center of
the universe, and I thought, you're not going in the

(18:15):
entertainment industry. I would look around the entire room. It
was like, y'all are going into entertainment, Like, are you
out of your minds myself because I know, I was
so convinced that I would just be an entertainer, because
I think I always was. I was entertaining my grandma,
that I was entertaining my middle school friends and dressed
to kill, and then I was entertaining my high school

(18:36):
and college friends. It's just that's just what I knew
my strength was. And if I could entertain my way
out of having a real job, then that would be
success for me. If I could go find a song
and dance and not have to clock in somewhere, that's
the dream. It's the dream. So when you started, remember

(19:00):
the first song you wrote and how old you were? Yeah? Okay,
So this spitiful girl walk in my way? I thought,
what will I do? I needed something to say. I said,
my name is Jay, and I want to say hi
to You're the gun of my jeans, and I think
I love you like that. That's ever recorded that just

(19:26):
here on this podcast. No, I'm sure, exclusive, I'm sure
I recorded on a cassette tape in nineteen ninety. Uh.
I wrote that an eighth grade Civics class, A good,
good little tune. It's probably in the same key and everything.
I mean it was a little higher about So you

(19:51):
attended a few different schools growing up, had a bunch
of jobs, then went on a road trip where you
ended up in San Diego and you decided to stay there.
So what drew you to San Diego? Come on? What
draws people to San Diego? You know what? Let's for
those who haven't been here. It's not an easy place

(20:12):
to live. The weather is crap um, it's just it's crowded. Um.
You just want to stay away. Yeah, there isn't there's
no like. The environment here is just not great. Like
have you ever been to Toledo? It's kind of like Toledo.
That's how we say here. You know, I live in
the valley and I'm like, oh, you don't want to
go to that always horrible, like you you can't park anywhere,

(20:34):
it's way too hot. It's you just don't come over here.
It's yeah like it at all? Yeah, so same, I
got kind of got stuck in San Diego. So same,
just no need to come down here and check out me. Yea, well,
we wish you well. Thanks. Thanks. Yeah. In ninety nine,
I dropped out of college, or I should say I

(20:58):
took a little break. It was spring break, actually, is
what it was. It was spring break my freshman year
of college. I was I put everything in my car
just in case spring break went well. And my mom
noticed that because I had lunch with my mom right

(21:18):
before I left on this drive to California, and she
knew something was up because she's like, why are you
taking everything you own in your whole life to you
on your springbreak. You had that foresight already, already knew
that this could be a possibility. Yeah, Because say, I
was writing. I had been writing songs for quite a
few years. I was feeling good. I probably had a
dozen songs that I could play on guitar that were

(21:39):
originals that I really believed in and and but what
I felt was missing in my life was experience. So
I was like, I'm going to take myself on an adventure.
I've never been to the West Coast. I've read about it,
I've heard about it. Feels like it's a pilgrimage that
one must take in one's life. So I set sail
across the US not knowing what I was going to do.
I had one friend end in San Francisco that was

(22:01):
that I was going to be able to crash with.
And then so I landed there, scared out of my mind,
had no money left. But I figured, you know, I'll
figure it out. I'll get a job, I'll play house parties,
I'll work my way up, I'll find places to gig.
And luckily, my friend had a boyfriend who had a

(22:25):
friend in the entertainment industry who was a concert promoter
and manager. You probably know him, Bill Silva. Oh yes, yeah.
He was concert promoter from San Diego and in the
La area, and so he and my new friend in
San Francisco were friends. And so my San Francisco friend said,

(22:45):
let's go down to Vegas. We're gonna go to a party.
And I took my guitar to this Vegas party and
I met Bill Silva and a lot of other great
people just playing my guitar in a hotel room and
having a good time. And luckily, it was at a
time in Bill's life when he too was looking to
take on a client. So Bill leaned over to me,

(23:07):
He's like, what do you do? What are you doing.
I was like, I don't do anything. I just moved
to California. I mean it was kind of the perfect thing.
It was like, I'm twenty one, I have no job,
I have an interest in entertainment, I have songs. I
don't even have a home really, and so Bill, being
a genius and a very generous and loving man, said,

(23:29):
why don't you come down to San Diego and record
some of your songs. Let's see what you can do.
So I went down to San Diego from Vegas with
my little backpack, and I've been in California for maybe
a month at this point. So I really got lucky
following my intuition and this hunch that if I left

(23:50):
at spring break I would I would be able to
make some connections. And so I find myself in San
Diego just a couple of weeks later. I record some songs.
We all agree that a lot of work I don't
have any experience. So I stay in San Diego and
I start working the open mic scene and the songwriter nights,
and I basically live at Bill's house for two years

(24:13):
because he moves to Los Angeles at this exact same
time and says, look, I need somebody to house at
my house. My house is for sale, but you can
stay here until it sells and go play shows. Just
go play as many shows. So I just immersed myself
in the coffee shop scene, writing songs every week, playing

(24:34):
shows over at Java Joes. Luckily, Bill's house didn't sell
for about two years, so I had this beautiful place
I could crash. For two years, I met a lot
of friends who would pick me up drive me around.
I didn't have a vehicle. I got a bicycle. And

(24:56):
after those two years, I had gained a little bit
of an audi and I'd written a lot more songs,
and Bill and I then created an agreement where he'd
be my manager and we would try to take these
songs to another level. So I gotta tell you, if
if I hadn't, if i'd have waited for the summer

(25:17):
break while I was in college, not taken the spring
break jump, my friend in San Francisco would have broken
up with her friend because that was inevitable, that was happening,
and I would have missed that window to meet that
guy whom introduced me to Bill. And I may have
met Bill later, or I may have just met another

(25:38):
manager later. You know, it's probably what that's probably what
would have happened. I would have met a different team.
But meeting Bill was the right person because of who
he was as a mentor, as a guru, as a yogi,
as a promoter, as a friend. He was just the
right person. He nurtured, he cared, he's patient. So I

(26:04):
mean I got so that was my first big break,
was really meeting Bill and him encouraging me to then
go work hard, and then a couple of years later
we would get another break, and then another break in
another break. I think it's so wild, the butterfly fact.
We talked about this all the time, how lucky we
are all to be around right now, not only following

(26:27):
our dreams and having some successes and all that, but
just to be here. You know, your great grandmother could
have taken a left out of the house instead of
a right and not met your great great grandfather, and
then you wouldn't be here, just one little thing in history,
so everything had to line up perfectly for you to
be here today. I think that is so wild, and

(26:48):
I think everyone should realize how what a feat that is.
That is a success right there. So if you're ever
feeling down about yourself, just think about what it took
for you to get here. Like that is nuts, Like
you want you won? That is it. And that's why
we promote gratitude because if you there is always something

(27:08):
to be thankful for, it's a miracle that we are
here at all. You are right, yeah, And I you know,
gratitude is something that I take from you with this
new album. Um, you know that to me, You know this,
this album that you've come up with is all about
finding the good um and things and the gratitude. And
even you have a song Gratitude, which I think is
beautiful and really hits home for because I know you

(27:33):
growing up. You know, like a lot of us were bullied. Um. Yeah,
And I love because I was listening to one of
your interviews where you're saying, you know, it's so easy
to move away, right, just get out of the situation,
but sometimes people can't get out of that situation. You're
not you know, you're not able to love. But you
took all of that bullying and all of that, you
know that that pain and turn it into something good.

(27:55):
And I also love it you said, uh, you know
you you think those bullies you thank all those because
you know what you did was you were going to
live in fear anymore and you're going to do something
good with your life to prove to them that they
mean nothing like they worked so hard to hurt you,
but you did something so much better so they didn't
affect you at all. So I really love you're writing

(28:18):
on this one in particular. It's beautiful. Thanks. Thanks, appreciate
that we had to get into. Okay, So congratulations Also

(28:39):
coming out bisexual, I was that twenty ten or twenty eighteen.
I think that you were able to talk about that,
and we I relate to your stories so much because
a lot of the things that kept me from being
who I truly was was protecting my family, you know,
and you know you don't you want them to You
never want them to feel like a fail, right, And

(29:00):
we were told so much in our lives that it's
wrong to be this, it's where you have to do this,
and you just always, for me, just wanted to kind
of stay in because you didn't want to embarrass your
family and make them feel like they did something wrong.
So tell me your experience of finding yourself and how
your family took you coming out as bisexual. UM question,

(29:23):
I'm so glad you said family, because that's part that's
often like, it's that's the real you know, it's it's
not my fans, it's like, how's mom gonna feel? You know,
how's I'm going to look in her? And community? Right?
You don't want to hurt them, You don't want to
know because when you come around, your family comes out too, exactly.

(29:45):
And when I was growing up, I think I think
my mom was a bit of a late bloomer to
um to understanding um gay lifestyle and understanding that gay
people are born naturally. You know, I was a late
she was a late bloomer to that idea because my
best friend in high school came out and my mom

(30:08):
had a little trouble with it at first. And when
I say at first, I'll say for a couple of years.
And that almost prevented me from going any further in
my exploration or at least my public sharing of it

(30:29):
in some way, you know, just for just yeah, fear
of your own parents. I guess my mom was never abusive.
My mom was such a wonderful lady, but um, so, yeah,
there was that. And then I think for me, my

(30:51):
remedy was I'm just gonna leave down. I'm just I'm
never gonna have to I'll never tell them, I'll never
face any of it. I'll just go to New York
City and then oh, I'll move to California. I'll live
three thousand miles as well. I'll do my own thing.
I'll live in my own bubble. And uh, you can't
do that forever, you can't. You just so over time,

(31:13):
it just felt I felt like I was shorting myself
and and limiting the experiences I could even have in
life by being closeted. So, um, my dad found out
when I made a video clip with um, very gay paint.
Do you know very gay point painted by very gay paint. Okay,

(31:33):
my my studio is painted by very gay. Yeah. They
have a brand new book out too. That's really great.
I very love the very very gay paint. For a
mutual friend Hope. Oh yeah that's right, that's right. That's
a really good friend. Roommates, hey, Hope, Yeah, we were Yeah,
she's the best. Yeah, so we made a song together. Um,

(31:55):
I wanted to write very gay painted theme song and
they're like, no, no, no no, no thanks, we don't need
one I was like, I'll write you one, no, brod, sure,
I'll make you so. Uh So I made a little
video for it. It's cute. It's on It's on our
Social's Deep Deep a couple of years ago. Um. And
at the very end it's either the tagline is, um,

(32:16):
we're very gay paint and also we're gay and your
son is gay. And then my dad calls me afterwards
and you know, he's like, hey, I saw your video. Son.
He's like, I just want you to know we love
you and we're proud of you for everything you've accomplished.
I was like, all right, Dad, thank you, love you.
You know, he's so sweet. Not a man of many words,

(32:37):
but he's all love. Um. So that was just a
few years ago. Um yeah, um, you know it's it's been. Honestly,
I always wanted my songs to be more popular than me.
I didn't want my songs to have to have a
person or a personality attached to them. For you to

(32:57):
understand it and get into the song, you should just
be able to hear it, like it, And in general,
I didn't want to ever like have to feed too
much celebrity into my career. I just I wanted to
be able to sell tickets. I wanted to be able
to play shows, and so with all of that, I
never thought about, you know, putting my sexuality into my

(33:25):
sound bites. I guess even though even though whenever I
was in you know, hetero romantic relationships, I noticed it
was easy to do. I could off the cuff easily
talk about it, sing about it. So I was kind
of I'd kind of grown tired of that, that sort
of one sidedness, and especially as all my relationships were failing,

(33:48):
I was like, I'm not being real with myself. So
I freed myself up. I got a little real. I
started being a little more open, and my whole life
experience is transformed and shift it. I feel lighter, yeah,
having more fun, That's true. It feels like the you know,
the weight of the world just kind of off your shoulders. Well,

(34:08):
you could finally be like your real self without always
having to kind of guard that one side, so you're
always kind of on alert at all times. At least
for me, that was my case before I came. And
the anxieties great, do you do you suffer from anxiety
at all? Are you able to handle that? Well? I
think I handle it well. Yeah, yeah, how do you
how do you deal with fame? I mean you started

(34:29):
at a very young age, I mean you started shutting
a boy band when you're in eighth grade? How did
you how how do you do you cope with fame? Well,
because you were just saying, you know, you'd rather the
songs be bigger than the artist. Yeah, I you know,
it's I don't think I have to deal with a
lot of fame. I think I'm okay. Most people don't
know what I look like. Um. In fact, I'll see

(34:49):
comments on videos that will say that's what Jason Morez
looks like. Um, and I like that. Yeah that's a
good thing. Yeah yeah. And where I live? U in terrible,
gloomy San Diego, Um, the worst town in America. Um, nobody.
I don't know. There's maybe one lady at my grocery

(35:09):
store that wants a picture with me every time I'm
in there. I'm like, really the same You're wearing the
same outfit every time. UM. So that's about it, all right. So, um,
you released your first album October two thousand and two. UM,
your first major label debut with Waiting for My Rocket

(35:30):
to Calm H What was that moment like for you?
You're finally You've been working on these songs for years,
you've been paying your dues, you've been living in shitty
San Diego. Um, what was it like to finally release
this album? This, this new album or the first the
first one? Yeah? Scary, very scary, UM, because I had

(35:57):
prior been a previously been a coffee shop acoustic thing
and a bit punk like songs that didn't have choruses
very long, you know, Bob Dylans songs with seven verses.
And I had a percussionist and a bass player and

(36:18):
it was just the three of us, and we made
this really quirky acoustic sound. And then I go and
make a record and it's you know, there's ninety tracks
on the remedy, you know, literally ninety pro Tools files, right,
And I just thought, there's no way I'm going to
be able to perform this. I can't. The chorus starts,

(36:39):
the downbeat of the chorus starts before the verse even ends,
and so in my head, I'm just thinking, technically, I
don't know how I'm going to pull this off. And
I thought I was also going to alienate or scare
my fan base, which was you know, a bit of
a San Diego crowd, but also this college crowd that

(37:01):
had been purchasing my acoustic CDs online and were spreading
these CDs around campuses, and so I don't know. I
just thought I had blown up my sound a little
too much. But I was wrong. I was wrong because
what I did was I amplified my sound that gave
me access to radio waves, radio frequencies and get my

(37:27):
songs played on the radio and make a even bigger noise.
So while I was a little intimidated at first, it
turned out to be a good thing. But what I
had to do was hire a drummer and another guitar
player slash keyboard player to come on the road with us.
And I had to learn how to be a band

(37:48):
after the album came out, because the remedy was taking
off and we felt like I needed to show up
and make the album sounds. So our little trio turned
into a band. And then ever since then, I've been
kind of learning how to put a band together and
figure that out. Yeah, but it still starts with you know,

(38:09):
solo acoustic or just a few people on acoustic instruments. Here.
Do you remember the first time you heard your song
on the radio. There's nothing like hearing your song on
the radio. Yeah. I have two different experiences of that. One,
I was at the radio station, so it's not as romantic.
In the car, it's exactly Yeah. And so my first

(38:29):
car listen, I was actually in Australia and I had
rented a car, and so I'm on the opposite side
of the car. I'm on the opposite side of the road,
and I'm at a red light and the remedy comes
on and my first instinct was, oh, I gotta take

(38:49):
the CD out because I'm returning the rental car. But
I didn't have the CD in there, and I realized,
oh my gosh, it's on the radio, and so I
turned the roll the win is down. I turned it up,
and then I got embarrassed and I turned it down
because I didn't want to be seen like rocking out
to my song. But then I realized, nobody knows at

(39:11):
this song or who I am. But it was a
really like literally a backwards moment because I was on
the opposite side of the road. Yeah. I love hearing
people's first time. Yeah, So it was cool moment. Now,
you know, in the early two thousand. It was an
interesting time in the music industry. It was you know,
the nineties really kind of set it up where it

(39:33):
was just so eclectic of just so many different types
of music that was blowing up at this time. You
were coming out there, you know, it was Us, Brittany,
Jennifer Lopez, Eminem. It was a crazy scene. So what
did you think about entering the music scene at this
point or are you thinking about, like, how do I
stand out? How do I, you know, compete with Britney Spears,
who's selling fifty million records an album. Was it a

(39:56):
scary time for you or were you just excited to
be your singer songwriter? Yeah, I was excited to be myself.
I didn't really start to feel like industry competition until
probably around twenty sixteen. So I had a long stretch
of I felt like where I was just in my

(40:17):
own lane or or it didn't matter because I just
felt like a contest winner already. You know. So I
made my first album and I just felt like this
was great. I got to make an album, Let's go
on tour. And then the album did well, so it's like, oh, great,
I get to make another one. Let's let's try that,
and that one was the second album was a little
bit harder to make because I had to write it

(40:38):
on tour and pull it together really quickly. And while
it commercially wasn't as successful, it contains a lot of
songs that have survived my show, so they that I
still play quite a bit, which is quite cool. And
so then I thought, Okay, no big deal. I did
two albums. I'm going to take a big break, still

(41:01):
not really paying attention to trends in the industry and whatnot,
and I was going on personal life workshops and just
trying to make sure I had peace in my life.
And that's when I ended up writing I'm Yours and
the songs from We Seeing, We Dance, We Steal Things,
and that album did its own thing that took us
around the world, and I just stayed busy for years

(41:22):
that then, and then it just kept going. It went
into the next album, and then I got to go
into the next album. It wouldn't be till twenty sixteen
that my songs were getting stuck at an n r's
office for about three four years, and I wasn't getting
any traction, and I really felt then Oh, I need
to have a story. I need to have a sound,

(41:42):
I need to have something that competes in the world.
It was the first time I really felt the competitiveness. So,
but no, you were free to do your own thing.
I was doing my own thing. Early days were great.
What is your favorite song to play in concert? Oh, Chucks,
I don't know. No, I have no preference. I mean
when I'm in the song, that's my favorite song. Right. Yeah,

(42:04):
we have to start about the remedy because I know
you've told the story so many times, but you originally
did not want this song on the album. So why
was that? Yeah? So I had written the remedy in
my car on the five Freeway driving between San Diego
and LA and I had seen the fireworks exploding in

(42:26):
Anaheim at Disneyland, and I just start rapping. I saw
fireworks from the freeway and behind closed eyes, I got
Disney Right, it's about the fireworks. And what that moment
relates to was my friend Charlie, who I grew up
with in Mechanicsville. He was born on July fourth, so
the fireworks really represent his birthday celebration, and at that

(42:51):
time in two thousand, the year two thousand, two thousand
and one, he was diagnosed with you in sarcoma and
was battling cancer. And I was living in shitty San
Diego and living my dream and making music and potentially
making an album. And I couldn't understand why I ended

(43:12):
up with my circumstances and he ended up with his
because we grew up in the same town, drank the
same water, dated the same people, I mean, very similar upbringings.
And yet he's losing all of his hair and he's
plugged in and he's going through chemos. So I write
this song in my car, and I start putting it
in my show, weaving this little rap into various songs

(43:35):
as a tribute to my homie. And then I take
that song idea into a songwriting session with the Matrix
and we distill the meaning to down to its essence,
and they helped me write the chorus, I won't worry
my life away, which is Charlie's mantra during that whole ordeal.
He'd say, Man, I'm not going to worry my life away.
I'm going to do what the doctors tell me, and

(43:57):
the only and like them for this is the experience
I'm just going to go through it. He's like, I
gotta go through it to get to get over it.
And so I was putting these messages in the song.
And when we made this song with the Matrix, it
scared me a little bit because of how giant the
song sounded, and again how the chorus started before the

(44:20):
verse ended. And then also because I felt like, oh, no,
am I exploiting my friend? Am I exploiting his you
know what is sacred to him? This these mantras? And
I got his blessing. He said, man, I love it.
I think it's a great song. But I still didn't
want to put on the record and I didn't share

(44:40):
it with my producer and I didn't share it with
the band. But the label had heard it and that
was enough. So I get into the I get into
the studio on our last day of recording the basics,
which is drums and bass, And when I get into
the studio, everyone's listening to the remedy, my demo of it,
and I think, where did you get this? Because I

(45:02):
hadn't heard it in months, and they're like, well, the
label sent it over and they thought we should give
it a try. We should, we should do our own
version of it, and I thought, Nope, not happening. This
song is going to take me a direction that I'm
not sure I want to go, and I don't want
to ruin, you know, I don't want to exploit my
friend's situation. And they're like, well, you just don't like

(45:25):
the demo, lets us try. Oh gosh. I just felt
like I was my life was going to change in
this moment. I knew it. There were other songs on
that album that I thought could be great singles that
I could go forward with, but I was nervous that
if I did the remedy, that was the song I
was going to have to sing every day. And in

(45:47):
the vocal booth, I'm we're going through the motions, we're
putting the arrangement down, and I am crying on the
microphone while singing it because I felt like a bit
of a sellout. And my manager was there, and as
soon as the song's over, I'm embarrassed and I run
outside to just get away from people, and it's pouring
down rain and hiding. I'm hiding under the stairs and

(46:08):
my manager comes out and he's so sweet and he says,
just listen to the words like listen to your own
take your own medicine right in, right now, listen to
the words. You know, this is a beautiful song. It's
going to touch a lot of people. Don't worry your
life away, you know the experience, you go through this experience.

(46:31):
And so I took his advice and I continued to
build the track and and color it the way we
thought would would fit the record, and of course it
continued to take off. And then, ironically or not ironically, symbiotically,
it really started to connect with people who were going
through cancer and surviving cancers. They were hearing those ingredients

(46:56):
in there because it's it's not obvious, but for somehow
they were really connecting it. So I found myself in
care centers and in hospital singing this song a year later. Yeah,
was that the first time you realize that you could
affect someone just through your lyrics. Because there's so many
times in my life that fans will come up and,
you know, tell me a story about one of my songs.

(47:17):
That God must have spend a little more time when
you you know, stop someone from driving over cliff. One day,
you know, the song came out on the radio. She
listened to words, and she decided not to kill herself.
Those are the I mean, just like, yeah, sometimes you
don't realize you know, what people are going through and
what your music can actually do for them. So was
that the mommy like, yeah, and how does that feel?
Just knowing? You know, you think to yourself it's like, oh,

(47:37):
it's a song I don't know, but to other people
it could be life changing and just so many people
you can spread these messages. Yeah, it was a huge
learning experience, and it opened my eyes to the power
of positive thinking, transformative language, positive articulation. Songs that have

(47:58):
mantras like I won't worry my life away, I won't
give up. Use these powerful messages that anyone can sing
and transform transform their life experience. I get transformed by
it when I sing it. And so what it did
was it shifted my perspective as a songwriter to try
to create these songs of purpose and try to create

(48:21):
these songs that have that that same potency of um
of a reason to live, you know, a reason to survive,
you know. Yeah. So I definitely credit Charlie and his
experience for being a huge inspiration on what has now
become an entire career of it. What I've always loved

(48:56):
about you is your awareness of the world and what
is going on, and just the way you talk about
uh situations, if it's political or not. UM. I love
how you just describe things. Every time I listen to
an interview of yours, I feel like it just improves
all of our mindsets, you know, like, yeah, that's right,
you you really, Yeah, that's that's the way to look

(49:18):
at it. UM As a public figure, and I feel like,
especially in the last you know, a few years, it's
we're kind of the enemy of the state. Sometimes it's
you know, sometimes when we have a message that we
want to use our platform for sometimes it could go
the opposite way because people are like, oh, and don't
preach to me, don't get political, you're two woke. You

(49:39):
know that those you know, those things just keep keep
being thrown at you. How do you deal with that situation?
How how do you kind of walk that fine line
of getting a message out you want people to know,
but yet not I don't know, pissing off the people
that are pushing back against this message. Yeah, I honestly,
I don't know. You do a great job of it.

(50:01):
Thank you. Thank you. I feel like I could still
do more. Um, First of all, when did woke become
such a bad thing. It's antidiculous that you are like
aware away, You've opened your eyes, you're something, You're aware of. Inequality.

(50:22):
I remember distinctly, like six o seven, eight, nine, ten eleven,
like all these years, the language, especially around La and
people that I was looking up to, I was hearing,
there's an awakening. We are, we are in the middle

(50:42):
of an awakening, and the great awakening is coming right,
And then I feel like we were, we were, We're
kind of there, and all of a sudden, the awakening
is in the past tense, and now we are woke.
And now woke is a bad thing. It's bad, Um,
and I and so anybody out there who who hears

(51:04):
the word woke and as a bad thing, I invite
you to just shift your perspective on that, because basically,
we are finally awake to see the injustices and the
inequalities that have been there for our entire lives. And
now we have an opportunity to correct some situations and
amend those situations and make life better for all people.

(51:26):
In this miraculous uh moment that we are given to
live and breathe. Um, So woke is a good thing.
Don't let any politician or any other channel tell you
that woke is bad, you know. And I think it's
the people that are so scared of the word woke.
I think it's just because they're embarrassed about what their
mindset was before the exactly you know, exactly comes from

(51:49):
that embarrassment. Yes, you're making it exactly. You don't feel
bad about yourself. And we've all come from I mean, look,
we were all ignorant at some point in all kinds
of situations, you know, that's right, So we all became aware.
Meaning well, of course, everybody's ignorant until you learn. I mean,
there's not one person who's born non ignorant. So it's
a it's a it's I mean, in life, you become

(52:10):
more woke as you go through. As a teenager and
a closeted gay guy, I was against, you know, same
sex marriage, you know, because that's what I was taught
I needed to be again, you know, So it's like
that's right. You you you believe these things that you
know you end up not believing in in the future,
and you should be proud of that. You should be
proud of educating yourself and learning. Yeah. Yeah, everybody's awakening

(52:33):
looks different. And that's another reason to be compassionate for
for everyone out there. And so the same can be
said about UM standing up for for any issue and
being vocal about it. UM. If if a fan has
any issue with it, it's just that they're, like you
just said, they're They're probably embarrassed for their mindset and

(52:54):
they're just likely not yet tuned into the to the
same information that I am. So I think it's important
for us if we if we believe something, to use
our platform for good. You know, I try to look
at it that way. I use my superpowers for good.
Yeah it's great. Yeah, I think you and ed Shearon
should compete for the most songs used in wedding songs hey,

(53:15):
for people's first dances, because I mean, I'm pretty sure
I'm yours is the number one first dance at weddings
that song, I mean, did you realize how huge that
was gonna be? I want to say that it's been
sixteen weeks at number one. Wow, I don't know. It
was crazy. On the Adult Contemporary charts four months straight.
That's insane. I don't know what happened with that. If

(53:40):
I did know, i'd write a lot more of it,
right right. Yeah. Do you ever go to weddings and
they do play that song? You're like, oh God, here
we go. Uh No, I just don't go to weddings. Yeah,
that's a good remedy for that, because I can't go
to a wedding without Bob Bob being played, you know
at the reception. Yeah. Um. And then of course, you
know you kind of get the side I have, like
he gonna go on stage? Is he gonna go on stage?

(54:02):
That's the thing. Yeah, let's do this, Yeah this side? Yeah,
you feel that side? Ie it's beers. Yeah. Do you
like doing collaborations duets? Is there one that you do
to do in the future, Like who is your get?
I don't have a get? Um, I maybe you d

(54:23):
Ed and here Sharon, you should create the ultimate wedding
first dance song. That's that is actually a great idea.
Yeah yeah, um, so yes, let's just put that out there,
Ed and I will create the ultimate wedding. So I'm
sure Ed is listening right now, So Ed, Yeah, he is.
He's a loyal he's a loyal listener to Frosty. Speaking
of boy bands, what was your favorite band in the

(54:44):
boy band genre? No pressure, you know, you don't have
to say in sing okay? Um, well I did mention
PC quest yes, earlier that was I'm going to go
really go deep dive on PC quests after. The reason
that was influential was because the sing was probably also
twelve or thirteen, and so that's how old I was,

(55:04):
and so it really clicked. And I saw them perform
at a skating rink. But they were on a national
tour and I thought, wait a minute, you can do this.
You can, you can see. And so we were talking
about the skating rink right before we got on with you,
because one I was saying, am I too old a skate?
And he said, yes, Lance is definitely too old. He
see every if he just like bumps into a counter,

(55:26):
he like breaks ahead. So I think I might be
at the age where I shouldn't be on skates. It's
absolutely not. Okay. Well they had video games there too,
oh yeah, But it was the place to be growing
up in the eighties and nineties and it was the
original TRL that's where you went and you heard all
the hits. That's right with your friends. You all had
to be there on Friday night. I it was just it, really.

(55:47):
I wish that was a thing today. I mean, I
know there's roller skate rinks out there, but it was
that's the only place that you really got to get
with your friends to I don't know, really get into.
It was a music video. It was like your way
of going to a club back when you were younger.
You're waiting there for that right song to do an
all skate or backward skate like it was a whole thing.
And then yeah, your your rich friends would get the

(56:07):
uh one of the speed skates. I could never get
the speed skates. Yeah, yeah, poor things. Well, congratulations on
your eight studio album. Okay, Mystical, Magical, Rhythmical Radical Ride.
I tell me, how did you come up with this name?
So it's a lyric inside the the the album in

(56:29):
one of the songs, and it says, um something, get
down load like an animal and kiss the ground that
you're walking on because it's a miracle that we're here
at all on this mystical, magical, Rhythmical radical Ride. It's
kind of how you preface this, this this whole interview
was that, um, it's a way of looking at life

(56:51):
rather than just say life, because it's just it's there's
no parameters there, It's just life. It's one syllable UM,
but mystical matter, ag rhythmical, radical, Ride, thirteen syllables, this
multisyllabic thing that that colors our world and reminds us
to be mystified by it, that we don't know everything,
and but to use our superpowers and to explore and

(57:13):
to be magical and trust that we'll get another chance.
That's the rhythmical nature of life is that you know,
if we failed once, we can pick up and try
ourselves again. And and radical is anything you want it
to be. And ride as this time through life. So
the album is a journey through time. It's looking back

(57:34):
at you know, whatever experience I may have lived in
forty years, and looking ahead at maybe another forty years,
at what's possible. But it's the album itself is no
different than other albums I've made. It's optimistic, and it's
got a variety of tempos and themes, and but it's
just I guess the first album I've done in my

(57:55):
mid forties. I also wrote this album in tandem with
Raining Jane. I would love to add and they are
a girl band, although it's not really necessary you call
them a girl band. They're just a great band. Four
women that I've worked with since two thousand and six.
We made an album in twenty fourteen is called a Yes,

(58:15):
and this is our follow up to that album. We
wrote this together over the pandemic. We'd come together sitting
in a circle and write songs, and so I made
sure when we recorded this album, I was only tapping
into that pool of songs that I wrote with Raining
Jane because I wanted us to have another experience together.
So they'll be in my super band this summer, as

(58:36):
well as some other great musicians to bring this album
to life. That's great, you know. I love the return
to the little pop music sound. We were just at
Disney Pride and your song was playing. I didn't know
it was your song yet, and we were just jamming too.
We were with Joan Grande and Frankie Grande and everyone
was just loving the song and Joan was like, oh,
that's Jason Mora's like what, no way, Like, what song

(58:58):
was it? I don't know that. I feel like dancing
maybe maybe, I don't know. It was over the loudspeaker,
so I couldn't like I love it, I love it,
but it was but it but it kept playing all
night long. I guess they had like a playlist of
only like songs they could play in just kept playing like, yes,
the songs on so that became like our song love
it Oh so cool? Um so uh. Now we hope

(59:21):
you keep making music forever. But in your mind, what
do you see the next ten years of your life being?
Do you want to continue pump acount albums? You have
other aspirations of maybe? I don't know. Have you ever
thought about doing acting? Uh? Yes, I did a short
stint on Broadway and Sarah Burrellis's Way. I loved it.

(59:46):
I loved it so much. I felt like I was
on a paid vacation. Even though eight shows a week,
I felt like I was doing Saturday Night Live eight
shows a week because it was a funny show, it
had great music, The audience was so excited every night
every day, and I didn't have to make a set list.

(01:00:09):
I didn't have to think about what had I was
gonna wear. I could put Jason Raz aside and just
go be doctor Pometer And if my phone rang and
I had an invitation to go do another one of those,
I definitely would. I I love acting if there's going
to be if it's going to lead to a song. Um,
I don't know that I could carry acting in just
a TV show or a movie. Yeah. Would you ever

(01:00:31):
take a crack at writing a musical? Uh, it's a
long process, it is. That's the thing. I A song
is three or four minutes long, and so I love
building these short stories in song. It's where my strength is.
And I don't I can't see myself spending seven years

(01:00:53):
working on a batch of songs because I hear that's
kind of the average. All your lyrics are just so
thank you anyway, thank your favorite ones and just write
a story around it. It's true, it's true. So the
next ten years of my life, UM, you know, I've
been so fortunate that I've gotten to do what I've

(01:01:16):
been doing. Um. And when I finished up my major
label deal in twenty eighteen, I switched to an indie
label and I get to make anything I want. And
so my first album was a reggae album. This new
album goes back to dance. Um. And sort of a
pop format with mystical magical. The next thing I have

(01:01:38):
on the shelf is is completely bizarro. It's country inspirational bluegrass. Okay, well,
this is something I made for my grandmother because she
never cared for my music. She would always ask is
it gospel? No, it's not. So I made a country

(01:02:00):
inspirational album based on these songs that my grandma loved.
So that's sitting on the shelf. And basically what I
want to do for the next ten years is just
do things that are completely different from the next and
and do things that I haven't done before. And that
might also end up sort of evolving into me writing

(01:02:21):
with other artists or producing for other artists, because as
I get older, the less excited I am about public appearance.
I don't know why. It's just it was fun to
do when I was young and felt like I could
just throw myself in there. But again, I live in

(01:02:43):
San Diego, away from the LA and I don't put
fame first, so it's hard to put records out if
you don't want to be on camera, you know. So,
so I think the next ten years you'll see me
kind of retreating a little bit maybe open a cat
sanctuary here in San Diego. Like that sounds perfect. I

(01:03:03):
could just do that. Like if I had a hundred
cats here, you'd never hear from me ever again. I'd
be I know. I always say, I just want to
open up like a dog cafe, which is all puppies,
all rescue puppies that you can call and adopt all
the time, and you're just drinking your coffee and you're
just you know, puppies in your lap the whole time. Yeah,
but I don't mind cats either. We can't have cats

(01:03:25):
because he's highly allergic. But I can't make you a
cat hair cappuccino at my cat you know what, I'll
take lots of allergy pills that day. I'm delicious, Orry, Jason.
Before we let you go, I have some fan questions
for you from Searn sp Escerca. If you could do
if you could do a duet with any artists, who

(01:03:45):
would it be? I kind of said that, but I uh,
maybe today's artists, like right now, in the zeitgeist of
new artists, who would it be in the zeitgeist of
new Well, I should just ask Taylor Swift. Yeah, I'm

(01:04:06):
sure everybody would say that. Yeah, that's always good answer. Yes, Taylor.
Have you ever met Taylor Swift? Before I have? I
got to perform I'm Yours with Taylor at one of
her big shows when she because she always loves to
cover other songs and when she's nearby that artist's hometown.
So she invited me up and I got to pop
out of the you know, the elevator, Yeah, pop up,

(01:04:30):
sing my song and then go back down. She was
she was lovely, a very very nice person. That's awesome.
Another question by Trev music expert, what was it like
being on Family Guy and do people still refer to
us some guy with a hat? Yes? Yes, I hear
it all the time. Whenever I introduced myself or someone says,
I'll hear it like it's it's whatever the ear version

(01:04:51):
of side eye is. Maybe it's eavesdropping. I'll hear someone say, oh,
this Jason Raz over there, and then someone usually says, no,
that's just some guy in a head, just like the
just like the Family Guy script. That's great, okay. Texas
Pearl Fringe's asked what's the key to knowing when an
avocado is ripe? M Mmmm, well, it'll develop a little

(01:05:17):
circle on it that says ripe now, oh doesn't um,
Some grocery stores will stick that on there. What is
the key? Um? I like to say that it's soft
to the touch, but still firm like a pencil eraser.
Oh okay okay. And people also ask me how do

(01:05:40):
you avoid avocado? Hand? Do you know what avocado? Slice
that hand? And I say, use a spoon because if
it's if it's ripe, you don't need to use a
knife to cut into your avocado. You know, that's some
good advice. It is insane how avocados go from my
perfect to just drank in two days like done. It's true,

(01:06:04):
you gotta hit it when it's right. It's they're elusive. Yeah,
there are varieties that don't turn dark, so they can
really fool you because it's still green on your counter,
but it's long, long overdue. Yeah. I think a lot
of restaurants use that because I get it. It's like
it looks green, but why is it stink? So it's
a catfish avoca? Yeah? Um? What do you what movies are? Actually?

(01:06:29):
What TV shows are you watch? Right? Now? Give us
some recommendations. Gosh, I don't have them. Um, I I
haven't seen anything about films. Is there a film you've
seen recently? You can recommend domumentaries. I do like documentaries.

(01:06:51):
I really enjoyed Um gosh. I think the last movie
I really enjoyed was Everything Everywhere, All at Once, so good. Yeah.
So if I if I choose to film, I go
for sci fi inspirational. That's my genre. So movies like um,
that's the perfect example. Um, but you know it might

(01:07:14):
be like Phenomenon. Remember that movie? Um, I think it
was Travolta. Yeah, um, um, uh gosh, what am I thinking? Um? Interstellar? Um,
it has to have a sci fi twist, but also
has to have an inspirational and like spiritual twist. Like
that's that's where, That's where I want to sit, That's

(01:07:34):
where I want to watch Life of Pie. Do you
remember that that was a great book turned movie. Um?
Yeah I I For some reason, movies TV just doesn't
hold my attention. Yeah. I feel like you would like
the movie big Fish. I love the Big Fish. There
you go Fish, There you Go, big Fish. Yeah. Well,
the album is Mystical, Magical, rhythmical Radical Ride is Jason Mraz.

(01:07:58):
We were so excited for your eighth studio album, and
thank you so much for coming on Frosted Tips. You
are gentleman and a scala Okay, you're fresh. Yeah, I'm
definitely not a scholar. But like I said, I enjoy
everything that you've done. I love how you're using your platform.
You're so easy to listen to, and I think you

(01:08:18):
are changing the world in your own way and I
appreciate that. Wow. Thank you so very much. All right, Jason,
Well we have to go right now, but I hope
you can come back on the show and in the future, um,
because yeah, we love having you here and we'll talk
about wonderful behind the scenes with Jason Ratz. Love it.
Thank you so much. I feel touched, moved and inspired.

(01:08:41):
So that's what we try to do here on Frosted Tips.
That's that's that's something, all right. Thank you so much,
so thank you, Thank you very much. You have a
good thank you too. That back, Jason Mraz what a

(01:09:06):
good guy. Is so easy to listen to. It so easy,
Like throughout of the last twenty years, just when anytime
there's an interview, I just always stopped and listen to
him because I know he's going to say something that
I'm like, yeah, exactly what I think. I just can't
He's I can't verbally say it like he does, I know,
and he's so like, he's so calm me. Yeah, everything
he says, but he's so smart and yeah, a good guy.

(01:09:28):
Yeah and one of and now in the community. You know,
I'm so jealous about sexual people. I know I shouldn't be,
but it attracted to every just going on everything, but
you know, you know me and yeah, you have like
twice the that would be amazing, twice the fish in
the cet. I know. All right, before we go, we

(01:09:48):
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haven't done in a while, but we have. Your review
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the week. All right podcast reviews. We've had mainly five
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Our first review is from what says Roasted Peanuts Dane
Cook miscellaneous love that's the title. I thought that was
his screen Well at first I did too, and I said,
Dane Cook, are you arrested? Peanut? What a big peanuts?
Here's your sixth star amidst my generally heavy podcast playlist.

(01:10:30):
It's great to hear behind the scenes stories, embarrassing stuff, songwriting,
et CETERA great podcast. By the way, I'd love to
see Lance interviewed on hot Ones YouTube channel Get hot Ones. Yeah,
the Wings, I should. I mean, I've been told that
twenty million times, so not really twenty Let I exaggerate, guys,
maybe three times, um, and I really want to It's okay,

(01:10:51):
you just round it up. I do a round it
out twenty million. Yeah, ever thought about going on PS.
Turkey sounds like a very pleasant Dane Cook. Oh, oh,
you're the Dane Cook. I'm the Dane Cook. Well, at
least he said I was a pleasant Dane Cook. I can't.
I don't know what he sounds like now, not very
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since a lot of the stories are similar, and Lanson
Turkey bringing a loving, yet inquisitive atmosphere to the podcast interviews.
That's one of my favorite reviews. Okay, Oh, you're welcome.
I mean, yeah, it was a great review. No, I
would never you have another one. Whispers Secret Society. That's
the name. Okay, Back in the day Circer two thousand
and two, a girlfriend and I joke that Lanson needed

(01:11:33):
a talk show called I'm Lance Pass and I have
an opinion, Well, it never got called that. From Dirty
to Daily Pop, the tips has always been frosted, and
I think this is the perfect venue to delve into
the unique experience of being a teen idol. I love
hearing new stories from some of my favorite stories, will
also discovering new facets of performers I didn't know as
much about. We are only a few months and I've
already gone back multiple times, so we listen to certain

(01:11:55):
segments or quotes. Sharing these stories with fans is truly
a gift, but also hearing the conversations that come out
of them give so much insight into the wild ride
it has been for all of all of you. Being
able to talk about the ups and downs of the
journeys has us listeners truly invested in everyone's futures. So
that said, so excited to listen every week and continue
the adventure forever Frosted. Mary Beth a different one than

(01:12:18):
before us. Where these are some great reviews, Now we
have the less review okay, and it's the third Okay,
it better be good. The title is could not be
lamer and promising, and the review is a simple sentence.
This whole podcast is so pathetic and that was by Kahar. Well, Kahari,

(01:12:42):
you know what, it's not for everyone. It's not for everyone. Now.
We love your reviews, even the bad one, so keep
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So continue to send us your fun boy band teen
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(01:13:24):
a great husband and you're a great husband. I tried
to get that out there. I needed it reciprocated. All right, guys,
that is all the show I have for you. Thanks
so much for listening again, rate reviews, subscribe whatever you
want to do. Listen to my other podcast, It is
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