June 8, 2023 • 57 mins
Super agent and music manager, Johnny Wright, is synonymous with such major music acts as NKOTB, BSB, Jonas Brothers and Britney Spears. So when you have a chance to talk with him (or in this case be interviewed BY him) you take it!
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
This is Frosted Tips with Lance Bass and iHeart radio podcast. Hello,
my little peanuts, it's me your host, Lance Vass. This
is Frosted Tips of Me Lance Bass. Turket Turchin's over there. Hello,
but Turkey, this is a special show. I know because
you know who's being an interview today, Lance Bass. I
can't believe Frosted Tips with Lance Bass. He's going to
(00:26):
be here to be by Beyonce starting Beyonce, produced by Beyonce,
by Beyonce. There was this Bill Bourrow on Sunday. It
was the Beyonce documentary Man.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Something Beyonce, filmed by Beyonce, Beyonce, produced by Beyonce.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
But we've invited mister Johnny right back to the show
and he's going to put me in the.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Hot scene, the hot se right now.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
And Turkey, I wanted you here because I'm sure there's
a lot of questions you've always wanted to ask me
and just never have and now you have.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Sure.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
But I really want Johnny to really I want you to.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Really just give it.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Ye spot, I am an open book now, uncomfortable now
these days, I am an open bookcase.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
You're I'm going to call you out be that's what
I heard.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Yeah, yeah, I've learned. It's weird. When I before I
came out, you know, I was like I was so closed,
you know, I didn't want to say anything. Then when
I came out, I just I can't stop talking.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
I can't.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
I don't want to. I want to tell everything. I
don't want to hide anything anymore, which gives me in
trouble a lot.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Yeah, but I'm going to really in let's see, let's
see if I can.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
I can do it.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
But Johnny Wright, I mean, take it away.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
Well, I'm not as good as you guys are in
this thing.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
You know, you were an incredible DJ back and yeah, skating.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Down the entire coast.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Yeah exactly. It wasn't a dream. It wasn't a dream.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
It was a nightmare on my feet. But yeah, I
mean I still can't get over that.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
I feel like there's a movie in this.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Well, so I just want to say one thing to that. Like,
you know, there was a guy named Dick Gregory who
was the comedian at one point in time, but he
got into become this very big health nut and his
kids used to roll a skate with us, and he
found out what I was going to do, and he said,
let me tell you something. Boy, He said, what I
want you to do is take some onions and excuse me, now,
(02:20):
I used to take some oranges and eat the orange peel.
Don't eat the orange. And I'm like why, and he goes,
because that's going to give you energy. And then if
you start to feel a cramp, get a potato and
cut it in half and rub it on you.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
And we're looking at.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
This dude, going like, this guy's crazy. The first one
hundred miles that we went, same thing. We were real thirsty,
took a glass of cold water and lemonade, got cramps
all over the place. So I said, well, let me
try this potato idea. So we went and cut it.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Within fifteen minutes the cramps were gone.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Really yeah, I've never heard that. And I'm glad lands
you get cramps.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
I mean because now that I'm highly diabetic, I get
these crazy cramps in the middle of the night because you
get dehydrated. It to the point where it's I feel
like my achilles is just like punk.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
It is so bad. Potatoes. Potatoes, yeah, the middle.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Because it takes for every good way. It is the
most painful thing.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
It's gonna be a new thing I'm gonna have to
do for you, like wretched me and I have the potato.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
You know the signs behind that or.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
I have no idea. And because we were just laughing
at him, but you know, we respected him because he
was an elder. But when it happened, we're.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Like, did you do the orange thing?
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Did the orange thing gave you.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Lots of energy?
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Yeah? But it.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
Orange field.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
That was healthy to do that.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
And he always told us, don't drink lemonade that's cold,
make sure it's warmthed out. All these things were nasty,
but they worked, you know, So that's just okay.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Tips, guys, you're welcome. Lance is going to recite this
potato thing now forever. I know it's going to be anything.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
Oh you know, you can just rub.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Potato potato like it's my idea.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
You thought of it.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
It's going to be your thing.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
Just don't call me in the middle of night.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Work.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
It's like a prank.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
Well, okay, so, mister bass, I have a question for you.
I want to know what your first impression was of
me the first time you met.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Oh uh, my first impression of you was that you were.
You have this calmness about you that I wasn't used
to because everyone in the group is crazy and everyone
around us is crazy, and so you kind of came
in as kind of the voice of reason, which was
it just felt safe, you know. I immediately it was like,
(04:39):
this guy is awesome. This guy is going to help
us finally get a record deal, and like, because we
you know, when you first start, you don't know what's
going to happen. We didn't know how big it would
be or even what we'd be doing. And I think that's.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
When we went.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
You know, when we went to Europe, we were just
kind of trying to find our sound. That's why we
were looking. I mean we were working with no music
and I mean just really horrible sounds. But I'm glad
we did that because we got to really find our
voice before we came back to America, because America would
have laughed us off. Yeah the radio if we would
have started back in ninety five.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Yeah, Oh, thank you for that.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
Was there anything that I ever put you or in
sync in that you questioned and it was like why
are we doing this?
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Hmmm?
Speaker 1 (05:27):
No, I think you always chose the right things for us,
lou Pearlman. Did I remember one of our first opening
acts was on a cruise ship. Cruise ships it's a
small yacht that like bachelorette parties would rent. And we
opened up for the Chippendales.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Like a booze cruise.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
It's like a booze cruise. But we opened up for
the Chippendales. And I remember, I'm sixteen years old, and.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Uh, he made gay? Wasn't?
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Yeah totally, but.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
I remember, I mean there were shoven dollars down our
pants sixteen years old.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
And like, I know, is this this blamer?
Speaker 3 (05:57):
I wasn't on that boat.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Yeah, So is this gonna be?
Speaker 1 (06:01):
This is our image now? I guess all right, because
at that point we didn't know what was gonna happen.
If we just signed with Disney World and be a
performing act at Disney, that's that would have been fine
by me. But it definitely got a little bigger after that,
a little bigger.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
Yeah, And how did you truly.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Feel about me or us?
Speaker 5 (06:21):
If you want to say that, managing both you and backstreaming.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Points, I didn't mind at all.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
It was always uh, you know, I did feel bad
for the backshot boys because I always try to put
myself in their shoes, and yeah, I probably would have
been pissed. I would have felt they were Yeah, yeah, like,
oh that's I just feel betrayed. Like I said in
our interview with you, I always dreamt of trans Con being,
(06:51):
you know, that motown and that we could all work
together because we really respected those guys. But then when
we saw just how hurt they were of the whole situation,
you know, it sucked. And then the rivalry started, and
then it kind of became fun.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
It was kind of fun to.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Have that rival It's like your favorite football teams. Uh,
you know, it's the Minnesota Vikings versus the Green Bay Packers.
It's the Yankees versus the Mets. It's it just keeps
you better. It keeps you on your game, and I
think your art gets better and better when you have
that friendly competition that wasn't so friendly competition.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
It's true.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah, it gets I mean it gets the fans like
really behind over support it creates.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
And again I don't know if that was like a
happy mistake, that that just how it I'll shuck out,
or that was a complete set up, you know by
the label or Lou.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
Or well, I think Lou didn't want because of the
way that the introduction of you guys being a part
of what we were doing was told to the Backsheet
boys that it was all about me, but Lou had
to support me because we were partners.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
So Lou didn't want the real story.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
To come out.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
And so that was one of those things.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
Were you ever close to any of the Backstreet Boys, Like.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Not at that time. I mean we had run into
them in Germany, but no, not all. I've become pretty
close with a lot of them after the fact. You know,
DJ is one of our class. I know everyone was
asking about that because we did the vander Pump Gala
uh this week and everyone was just asking, wait, so
(08:27):
we hear the bands get back together. I'm like wait what,
I'm like, what are you what are you talking about?
They're like, yeah, back sync and you know, because we
always do it kind of the summertime. Like, oh, like
you know those guys are on tour this year.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
So but it threw me for a loop.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
Yeah, what was the most difficult thing about you being.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
In the group.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
I didn't sing, I mean hiding my sexuality. I mean
I hated that that was so on the forefront of
my mind at all times that I don't think a
lot of the times I got to enjoy the ride
because I was scared so much and just different, like
scared just for one my safety, Scared that I was
(09:10):
going to run in Sinc's career, disappointing people, my family
like it. Just it was a lot on my shoulders.
And being in the spotlight is you know, it's scary
because everyone wants to know every little detail about you,
and when you're hiding such a secret, it's not a
fun place to be. So a lot of the times, I,
(09:31):
you know, played ignorant. A lot of times I like,
okay and try to but you know, every night, when
it was quiet, that's all I could think about.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
Did did you tell the guys that you were coming
out before the People magazine?
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Most of them, man, I tried, you know. I think
Justin and Christ are the only ones that I couldn't
get on the phone. So I left them a message,
or I left Chris a message because and I don't
know if people remember, but I had twenty four hours
to tell everyone. They were writing the story. All the
(10:07):
magazines are like, look, we know it's confirmed. We're doing
this story. Do you want to talk with us or
do you just want us to write the story? And
I'm like, so I chose people, you know to tell
the true story. And yeah, I and I had twenty
four hours to tell my grandparents, my rest of my family,
my business people. I mean, I had a sitcom that
(10:29):
I was doing that now we had to cancel because
it was you know, and now I'm out. So it
was it was a lot, Like I I lost a
lot of people in those twenty four hours. And I
mean Chris still to this day is upset that I
did not tell him I was gay, like in the
group when I because he was the only one in
(10:50):
the group that asked me just flat out are you gay?
And I freaked out and I'm like.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
No, what are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (10:57):
So I think he still is upset that I could
never be honest with them because I think they would
have had well, especially Chris, would have had fun with it.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Oh absolutely.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
I mean they gave me a lot of shit before,
but like they would have really like had a lot
of fun with me being the only gay guy in
the group. But I mean, and I ask you, what
do you think would have happened if if I came
out at that time.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
Well, you know, I think about that sometimes and I
feel like we were so big at that moment that
you were really feeling the pressure on that that I
don't think it would have changed the dynamics on the
band at all. I think that, first of all, the
guys who hated us anyways were always saying they're all gay.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Oh yeah, you know, oh look, and that's what I
tell everyone.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
I'm like, look, you know, being gay is no different
than being in a boy band, because like you get
called you know and everything. I mean, you're treated like
you're gay. And that also kept me in the closet
because I knew how much hate were getting as quote
unquote straight guys for being It's like the.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
Worst thing you could be called is gay.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
But yeah, I always wondered because the only the only
example I had of someone coming out at that time
was Ellen DeGeneres right, and it was a horrible coming out.
She got fired from everything, everyone hated her.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
It was just bad.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
And so that again, maybe even go deeper.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
I'm like, oh nope, yeah, well, I mean again, that's
personal decision. But if you were to do it, I
think we would have worked through that. My question is
you had a relationship with Danielle.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Did she know? No, she did not know.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
We interviewed her recently, and yes, she was.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
She was in love. She thought she was getting married
her family.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
And of course, I mean she was eighteen years old,
you know, first love, you know, our whole prom night.
You know, it was the cookie cutter of what she
saw her parents go through, so she thought she was
going to have that. And again I thought, I thought
that I was in love, Like I thought if I
was going to marry someone and have kids and like
do the whole straight thing and hide myself like so
(13:04):
many people do, that's the one like how could you
not love her? But then it just got to the
point where I didn't want to hurt her and I
had to call it quits. You know, it was our
prominnit and I was like, that was the night that
I knew, Okay, I can't do this to someone.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
So then in that conversation was it like, oh, well,
sex can't happen until we get married. I'm saving myself.
Very religious, and that was the other good crutch.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
I was super Christian, so like it was a great excuse, like, well,
you know, you can't have sex before marriage.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
So that one I used a lot, a lot, but yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
But then it just got to you know, the older
you get, the more I mean, you're you're growing up,
you're getting sexual, you're having your first relationships, and yes,
that is always going to lead to sex.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
And my thing is I.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Did not want her to lose her virginity to a
guy that and at that point I knew I was
going to be able to be myself at some point,
Like I knew I was gonna be out because I
just knew I couldn't be with a girl. I just
didn't know when that was gonna be. But I did
not want her to look back and be like, good lord,
I lost Margina too a gay guy, which I think
(14:19):
she would probably say like, oh, I don't like I
wouldn't have minded that because you.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Know, we didn't have a love.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
Well I'm curious what was when she found out?
Speaker 3 (14:27):
How did she feel about that?
Speaker 1 (14:29):
I don't know, because when I came out, you know,
I didn't There was a lot of people that I
just didn't really talk to, and I think she was pissed,
you know, just being lied to. I think the biggest
thing that I hear what came out. I was like,
why would you lie to me? Why would you lie
to me? And people can't get over that. So I
think her and you know we call Big D Chris's
(14:51):
girlfriend like that whole crew. I think we're just really
upset with me, not for me just coming out, but
what I did to Danielle, like they thought I broke
her art. So yeah, it was you know, so I
just kind of again kind of ignorantly ignored all that.
I'm like, Okay, this didn't happen. This didn't happen. Do
you ever talk now all the time. We're really close now.
(15:14):
Years went by where we didn't really we weren't in
each other's lives. I mean she, I know, she kind
of went out and found herself, and you know, I
think she.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Married before, she was married before.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
But now we're really good, especially since we had children. Yeah,
we bond over our kids. We're producing a movie together
right now. They're actually turning our prom night into a
movie or Laughcus and Mary Hollins right in it. And
it's gonna be a comedy obviously.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
And it's not Lance Bass and daniel official, but it's
it is our story. I think it's gonna be super cute,
and so that really kind of brought us back together,
like in the recent years.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
I'm glad to hear that.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
So there have been other members of other boy bands
that have come out. Have you spoken to them and
like show support of how this goes.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Is there a.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
Community that you guys have where you text or get together? Uh?
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Yeah, I mean it's not only just with boy bands
and musicians, but actors too. I'm kind of like the
go to guy to contact before you come out. Oh well,
I mean Jason Collins the basketball player, like Robbie Rogers
the soccer player. Like all these people contacted me and
they want to go, let's go have lunch and you know,
and get the courage you know, to come out. And
(16:30):
and I like being that guy. I like being the
sounding board. So you know, there's a lot of entertainers
out there that I know their secret and they still
haven't come out yet. So yeah, they do, right, but
they yeah, they reach out, which I think is lovely
and it really bonded Jonathan Knight and myself love John
I think he's just like one of the best people.
(16:51):
And I love that we're able to just be candid
with each other about our experiences about being gay, and
his husband is one of my close friends, Harley, So yeah,
it's been It really bonded us for sure.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Wow that's great.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Yeah, but yeah, I mean yeah, I like that. I'm
kind of a guy that can be a good sounding
board for people out there, because it is scary in
this business.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Even today, you would think it is so easy to.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Come out and not be scared that it's going to
change your career. I mean it's just in the last
five ten years that you've had LGBT artists on the radio, right,
you know that are out and proud. So yeah, so
you know, if I can help anyone out there, just
call me.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Slide to my DMS.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
All right.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
So the band, you guys were all family who got
on your nerves the most?
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Oh trying to say, I'm sure each guy got on
nerves for different reasons, but I mean Chris was the
one that always you know, because Chris is always on,
just always on, always making a joke, and interviews like
this would take twice as long because Chris would just
(18:17):
be Chris, and so on long press days where you'd
have to wake up at five in the morning, and
do six hours of radio back to back to back
to back to back, and then Chris is, you know,
being Chris in every single interview, making it so long
and you're so tired, and you're like, just shut off, grass,
let us, let's get on to the next one.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
Do you remember the time you guys were doing radio
in Germany and that question came up by the interviewer
and it's like, well, who's the funny guy of the group,
and everyone said it was Chris, and he says, well,
tell us a joke. You remember the knock knock joke
he did.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
Oh god, what I can only imagine.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
He said, knock knocking. She goes, who's there? And he goes,
I'll ask all the questions.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
I do that.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
I as the questions.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
And I also remember, God, we were doing I think
it was no strings attached because we were in Japan
or somewhere, and so the time difference was, you know,
really different. We had to get up two in the morning,
three in the morning and do like KTLA's and all that,
and I remember it would go from video to radio
and you just you know, they would tell you okay,
now it's video you're live, or just radio and we
(19:27):
were doing KTLA and we were so tired, but they
told us it was a radio station. So I'm sitting
back in my chair.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
Like totally like rolling my eyes and a lot.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Of the questions, you know, and just acting like stupid,
like like what the fuck all on camera like they're
seeing me, and so they all thought I was wasted
like that. It's like Lance was so drunk in this interview.
He's just like sitting back on his chair like rolling
his eyes at everything, like just being like an asshole
to the interviewer.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
But yeah, that was That was a moment.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
So that's who mostly gets on your nerves. Who do
you confide in?
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Oh hmmm, in different stages, it was different people. Justin
for sure was my go to at the beginning of
the group because we were close to the same age,
we came from the same area. We just really could
relate to a lot of things, so that would be
my kind of go to to have a sounding board.
But then it quickly became Chris because we were roommates
(20:28):
and I lived lived on his futon and we were
just like inseparable like frick and frack, like you know.
He was my older brother and we could talk about everything,
and I learned so much from these guys because I was,
you know, I lived a sheltered life. I had never
lived on my own. I never you know, these guys
have been working already. And then and then it became
(20:49):
Joey like Joey. I feel like even today, of everyone,
I can call Joey and just be like hey and
just kind of, you know, let things out that developed
over in Which was the lead for you guys doing
on the line?
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Correct?
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Yeah, m m yeah, And that was that was a
fun time. I mean, of course, hindsight, I would do
so many things differently, like you know, like not go
with the first script they threw at us, like maybe
I should have read like ten scripts?
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Are you going with that movie?
Speaker 1 (21:22):
That was a master It was fun and it came
together so quickly because you know, we're all Hams and
we all love film and television. We would always make
little mini movies and we lived in Germany, so I
always wanted to do what the Beatles did and do funny,
stupid little movies, you know, And we got close to
doing that because that's when we were talking to Tom
Hanks and all those people that really wanted to do
(21:43):
an en Sync movie. But then the guys, half the
guys just like, now, we're not into this. And that's
where Harvey Weinstein was like, well, I'll do one with
you and Joey You're like, okay, we'll star in a
movie we've never acted before in our lives, but let's
do this. You know, it was if you don't do this,
it's no theatrical release. If you can't get Richie sionboard. No,
(22:04):
I mean just it was okay. And then he shows
up at the premiere in pajamas because he, you know,
had the flu and like.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
Why are you even here?
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Go home?
Speaker 4 (22:16):
So yeah, he was. He was a character.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
What was the first big purchase you made when you
got a real check? Not the first one you got?
Speaker 4 (22:24):
Yeah, yeah, right at the end.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
My big purchase was a Toyota four Runner that was
my dream car in high school. I was like, God,
I mean I just if I can get a full Runner,
I would I've made it. So I felt like I
had totally made it once I was able to get
that car.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
I remember that.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
And what was your most favorite performance live?
Speaker 4 (22:48):
God, there's so many.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
I mean I always go to Super Bowl because not
only was it the super Bowl, and I'm a huge
NFL fan and it's the super Bowl. But it was Aerosmith.
You know, it's my favorite band, So to be able
to do it with them was just the ultimate, the ultimate.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
Do you remember being in the what's it the area
of the room, the locker room prior to going up
on stage and what Steven Tyler said.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
No, he was mad at you guys.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
Because you guys he didn't feel you were literally like
honing in on your craft and what you don't remember this?
And he made you guys like do the harmonies like
two or three times because he's like, you guys are
just not getting those notes right.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
Oh my god, I don't even remember that.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
It's actually on film.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
No, I need to see that.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
He could know no wrong in my eyes.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
To me.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
When I heard him, I was like, oh my god,
this is going to be bad.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Like he seems mad.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
But he was given this whole speech about doesn't matter
how big you are, forget about the audience and the girls.
You got to really hone in on your crass and
the first thing is your voice and you guys need
to protect it and you need.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
To warm up and debt ed.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Yeah, and he's the reason that we started wearing in
ears right because we were in Germany and we had
just met them, saw them on tour, and we didn't
know at the time that girls put out a certain
pitch that will make you go deaf. So he was
the first to show us what in ears were and
I'm like, oh my god, that's gonna one day we'll
be able to afford these.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
This is awesome.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
What was your favorite TV performance?
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Madison Square Garden HBO special. Really, Yeah, that was just
I think it's the best. I mean, besides the Disney
Channel obviously that was very special, but performance wise, I
think that is if I were to tell someone that
doesn't know anything about in Sync, I would say watch
the Nose Strings Attached HBO Special because I think that
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really encompasses everything that we were all about.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
That was my favorite tour for sure.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Yeah, that was a great tour.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
The TV performance that stood out the best to me
was the MTV Awards when you guys put.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
The heads oh bye bye bye.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Yeah, I mean Wade Robson Man, Yeah, I mean, that's
an iconic It made an iconic moment. I mean, we
and the VMA's that was the playground. Yeah, even more
than the Grammys. You know, Grammys had to be a
little more subdued, but VMAs it was all about like
everyone had to one up everyone.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
We were the first ones to fly on TV. We
were Garth Brooks was the first one I ever saw too.
Yeah then I knew that Backtreet Boys had it in
their live show.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
But on Sailing.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Sailing at the billboardal or the Grammys, Yeah, Billboard War Yeah,
because I remember almost kicked Mariah Carey in the face.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Yeah, yep, wow, oh god.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
That was a great member of Sailing. Yeah, that's a
that was a great one.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
And when which was a cool, really cool full circle moment,
when we did the Beg's medley at the Bambi Awards
to honor the Beg's and give them the Lifetime Achievement
Award and then eight years later do it at the Grammys,
the same medley, giving them again their Lifetime ACHIEVA Award.
I thought that was and that was the last time
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we performed on television. I believe that was our last performance.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
So with your kids at the age that they are
right now, do they understand what you were a part of.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
No, not at all, not at all.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
I mean they've not even heard a song yet, and
which which is weird. We have not played them any
songs because I'm sure they would love.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 5 (26:26):
We got to talk about Station Little if you want
to talk.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Yes, Oh my god, I am excited to be working
on a project with you because you are producing this
new kids show Station Little, which is on YouTube.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
So on YouTube, kids on YouTube. Yeah, it's it's so.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Good because when the animation is great, but also the
songs are incredible. They're all bops, like you would listen
to it and be like, oh, that's that's a radio song.
But it's all about you know, children themed things. How
do you get involved with this?
Speaker 5 (26:53):
Well, Jordan O'Malley, who is a great producer, produced music
for AJ McClain and a bunch of other people. He
came to me and he said, I have this idea
and it's this animated series and it's all about music,
and it's you know, showing kids like great things that
they should be doing in their life. But it wasn't
just about the music. He also has a lesson play
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for schools and they have a full animated comic book
in the Whole Nine Yard so when I saw it,
you know, and when I heard the music, I was like, well,
you're taking tracks and music as if you were going
to put them on real band. So that's the quality
of the production behind this. And you're writing these clever
songs that kids can start to sing and talk about
brushing your teeth and being kind to people and.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Stuff like that. So I was really excited about it.
Speaker 5 (27:41):
And again, these characters don't call you at three o'clock
in the morning when they have a problem, and they're not,
you know, so.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
Easier to manage.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
So for me it was like, okay, so I can
be involved in this project. And again not that I
have kids that age, but you know, I have a
lot of friends, and when I played it for him,
they were like, oh my god, this is great.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Any other thing about.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
It was really interesting too, because there is this question
out there should be three D or two D, you know,
And what we kind of found out and research did
was that some kids are scared of the three D
animation and they're more common connect and connected to the
two D, so we wanted to keep it that way.
So AJ had done one of the songs, and so
I was just saying to Jordan like Lance would be
(28:21):
great on this, and he's you know, we're like with
Lance always says that I'm not a lead singer, so
let's create a song and put it in a key
that he's comfortable with and that he'd be able to
really do this song in a great way. And when
I got the track back, I was like, oh, this
is amazing. And as you know, I text you and
I said you should put out a whole album. So
(28:41):
but yeah, Stacey Little, it's on YouTube and YouTube kids
right now. There's about twenty eight episodes and you're the
next one up, and we're looking forward to the world
seeing it.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Yeah, I mean it's really fine. But yeah, Jordan is
the type of person that's who you want to work with,
right His detail and his passion about everything. I've never
had anyone not only produce and write and all that.
But he's sending us social media assets and being like, Okay,
we'll do this, and his game plan is just so on. Yeah,
(29:11):
you want to do her like that. He's a good
and I definitely want to work with him again in
the future. Absolutely, all right, Station Little, check it out,
check it out. And this is what's so great about
having kids, your perspective changes a lot, and then the
art you want to create is stuff for your kids, right,
And that's kind of where I'm at right now working
on this Puufa and the Gang cartoon. I've been, you know,
(29:32):
doing writing children's books now and then Station Little, the
one that you're producing, is so great because as a parent,
you can only listen to Coco Melon.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
Severe No so much like one time.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
One time, and they do it's like crack. So I
didn't like how they spaced out. I know, and they
love it, but I can't deal with it. But Station
Little is great because you use amazing writers and producers
and it's songs that sounds like it would be on
the radio.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
Well, Jordan O'Malley, who's one of the producers of it,
you know, he produced real music, so.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Yeah he was, and he was Aj McLean's best man,
or AJ was his best man in his wedding.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (30:12):
So when they came together on this, it wasn't going
to be I mean, there's nothing wrong with wheels on
the bus, go around the round, but they wanted to
take real situations that kids would be a part of
and tournamental song but have the production, the music as
real songs, So even if you didn't watch it physically
and you just heard the song, it would actually have
a connection to you. So I'm so happy that you've
(30:32):
done something and we're looking forward to putting it fun.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
It was fun to be back in the studio. You know,
it's been a long time, but yeah, I mean I
had so much fun doing that song and it's a bop. Yeah,
it's stuck in my head all the time.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
And it was interesting because when we talked about it,
it was like, well, you know one thing that Lance
always telling me about. It's like, look, I'm not going
to do an album, so I have to find other things,
which again is why your career has done what you've done.
You've branched out to do so many different things. So
I said to him, when you're putting the song together,
make sure you put it in a key that's comfortable.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
So when you did it, I was like.
Speaker 5 (31:08):
A Lance can actually put an album out right.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
And it's just so rare that anyone would write anything
in my key, because yes, I am as you can
tell a bass.
Speaker 5 (31:18):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
I wish I had a higher voice. I mean Randy
Travis did it.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
So, I mean there's been examples, but not enough examples
for me to have really gone far it because I one,
especially in the insane days, I had zero confidence, Like
I did not think I was talented at all.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
I was always feeling guilty. I'm like, why am I here?
Speaker 3 (31:40):
I How am I?
Speaker 5 (31:41):
Like?
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Because everyone was so good, I'm like why why how
did y'all choose me? So I was afraid to stand out.
I was afraid to want to go for that solo
because I just didn't think I had the chops at all.
Speaker 5 (31:55):
So back in the day, we put you through the
boot camp in the hangar that had no ace, so
you were sweating all the time during that time period.
Did you ever feel like we're just wasting our time,
this is not going to happen.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Yes, for sure, because you know, I one have no patience,
even as a sixteen year old, just no patience. Just
we want everything to happen, and you know, you get
promised a lot of things.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
Especially Lou.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Lou was always you know.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Like, oh, you guys are gonna be big, Oh it's
gonna you know, just had all this plan that everything
was just going to happen. Immediately and it didn't you know,
we couldn't get a record deal. No, timmy man told
everyone was like, no, not going to happen. And then
it was the summer of ninety six and I was
going to go back to Mississippi and finish my senior
year of high school because just nothing was happening.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
We would do a little show here.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
We would just rehearse every day, and I told the guys, look,
I'll come back on the weekends, like we still want
to do this, but you know, if it's like this,
I want to at least be able to welcome my friends, right.
You know, I wanted to finish my senior year and
I was packing my bags to go back to Mississippi
when you called and said, hey, you're signing with BMG.
(33:07):
Really you have to go to Germany like in a
couple of days. Yep, what And that type of stuff
happens to me my whole life. Oh yeah, that was
the first. You have to truly you can't fool yourself.
You have to truly believe that okay, it might be,
it's done, you know, and just and accept it. And
then all of a sudden, the universe like slaps you
(33:28):
with what you need. And then that just happened recently
we were moving to Nashville, was there literally looking at
a house, loved it, gonna get it. And then right
when I land is when I get a call about
a new project that's going to keep me here, and
I I was done. I was completely done with music.
(33:49):
I mean it was the first time like it's over,
Like I just want to live a nice, simple life,
you know, continue the TV film, everything, but the music
part is just completely over. It'll never ever happen again.
And now music is now landed back to that. But
I had to but I had to truly just be
okay with accepting that it's done.
Speaker 5 (34:10):
And what was the one moment that made you feel like, oh, yeah,
it's gonna happen, It's gonna be real.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
I mean, it was so quick in Europe. I mean
we always in America was always where we wanted to
be because that's what you grew up with, and you know,
that's that's you want your friends and family to hear you.
But when we got to Europe, I mean we were
on the cover of every magazine before we released a song.
It was just so immediate on how huge we were
and you felt like, wow, this is what the Beatles
(34:41):
felt like. There's thousands of people chasing us down the
street and camped out of the hotels like this is
It just seemed like a dream, Like it didn't seem real,
it was a movie. It just all seemed fake, and
especially in a different country where you didn't know any
of the stuff, it just felt like I was living
a fake life.
Speaker 5 (34:57):
I remember the time for Germany, for those that will
understand that there was a TRL like MTV I had
here and that was called Vivo, and I remember going
into the Vivo studios like an hour before the show
was going to air, and there probably was like ten
or fifteen girls outside in that studio parking lot area,
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and when you guys came out, there had to be
two hundred to two hundred and fifty and they jumped
all over the bus and wouldn't get off, and we
had to send security out to scatter them. And it
was like that was one of the moments where I
was like, Okay, this is about to.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Go yeah, and you know I did obviously you had
seen this before, so I didn't know what to expect.
But the day that I felt like I had made
it was when we did Rosie O'Donnell because it was
the biggest show at the time. I loved her and
she just never I mean we were on jay Leno
all that, but like for some reason, she never had
a song yet. I'm like, well, we haven't made it
(35:53):
unless we do Rosie. And then she finally had a song,
and that's when I felt that people knew who we
were for the first time.
Speaker 5 (36:00):
Memories. So, if you had to put the ultimate boy
band together, now the group that you would be in
five guys, who would it be?
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Oh my gosh, that's so it's like you know, picking children. Well,
we'd have to definitely cover all the vocal you know, basses,
so you know I'm the bass, So Kevin Richardson, you're out.
I'd have to Okay, which poison Maan because Poisman has
to be in it, because that's mainly the reason why
we all stared just one, No, just want I got
(36:33):
to pick one, Okay, you can't double dip supergroup, yeah,
I mean maybe one.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Yeah, okay, get the get to that, yeah, I get
the runs, get their lead singer. I can't pick any
InSync guy because I'm already in it.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Uh, the backshed boy I would choose would be a
j just because I love I love watching him perform.
I think he's such a great performance. I love his voice.
So that's three two more Okay in a perfect world, Okay,
one direction Harry Styles Okay, yeah, yeah, because we you know,
(37:08):
got to bring in a little young and then okay,
to give it a little Latin flavor, let's put Ricky
Martin in there.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
I mean that's that's a super good supergroup. Yeah yeah,
what would you call? Oh my gosh, super group?
Speaker 1 (37:29):
So literal, just like in Germany and England, there's just
so literal about everything speak it of. I've always I've
asked every single person coming on the show, where did
the term boy band come from? Where do you think
when did that start?
Speaker 5 (37:41):
We were always a vocal group.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Yeah, that's what we said, because we didn't hear the
name boy band until we landed in Germany. We're like, oh,
what's what's a boy band?
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Yeah? I think it was caught in the act world's apart.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
That was the Like I wonder if it was England
or Germany, because both of them sounds like that would.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
Be a term that came from over there. But we
always said we're not a boy band.
Speaker 4 (38:00):
Well yeah, it was a negative thing. Yeah, it was
a way to insult someone.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
And then when.
Speaker 5 (38:05):
America picked up on that, that's when it's like you
can't escape this.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (38:09):
Yeah, that's a pretty good group. Now, if you were
doing the movie on in Sync and you had to
cast all the parts, but they with celebrities now not unknowns,
who would you get to play each member?
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Okay, Ron Reynolds has to be in it. I mean
I'd wanted to play me, but of course he'd played Justin.
Uh no, no, actually I know who would play Justin.
It would be uh Ron Gosling. Okay, yeah, Ryan Gosling
would play Justin. They obviously work together and know each other,
so he would nail that. So I get, I get
(38:46):
you get Ryan? Wait what I say? So I get
Ryan Reynolds. Yeah, I know, I know it's far fetched,
but it's my movie, okay, And I know he loves
boy bands. I heard there was a there's an off
Broadway play where they take celebrity autobiographies and you know,
they do readings from him, and he played me in
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one of these.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
Really.
Speaker 5 (39:08):
Yeah, I heard a rumor that he was doing a
movie or something where he was supposed to be putting
a boy band.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
I heard that too. Yeah, yeah, I heard that too.
I don't think it's true or either it just didn't
go anywhere. But you know the movie that I'm doing,
the RV movie for people that know it's these it's
a true story about these girls that win a Winnebago
on the Price Is Right and followed us on our
stadium tour.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
And Sony is making that movie. And I always wanted
Ryan because just like what we're doing here building a band,
I wanted that band at the end of the movie
to be stunt casted with all those guys like Jake, Jillenhall,
Ryan Reynolds, Ryan Gosling. Okay, yeah, Jake would be in it.
Jake would play jac.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
Okay, yeah, okay, yeah, I can see that. Uh huh.
Speaker 4 (39:54):
Chris Catan would play Chris Kapaston.
Speaker 5 (39:56):
Yeah that is funny.
Speaker 4 (40:01):
And Joey and Guy Fiery for Joey, yes.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Yeah, Danny de Vito could be Joeyer.
Speaker 4 (40:13):
Is like guy Fiery for Joey, Yeah sure, and Guy
Pier and who's loo oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Uh, Lou Pearlman would be GMT, Jeannetty, Paul, Jim Jimmy.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
I think it should be Melissa McCarthy and Dragon hilarious.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
But the one that really would have been is passed
away perfect casting.
Speaker 5 (40:56):
Is there anything that you've done, either in sync or
in your own endeavors, that you wouldn't have done now
and you would have done it differently?
Speaker 4 (41:06):
Oh? All, yeah, lots of things.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
I'm not that type of person like, oh, I wouldn't
change anything. I would change everything. Yeah, well one I
would have come out, Okay, I would have you know.
I wish I could have just tested that boundary, and
I think it just would have been It would have
been fun. I think I don't know, but I just
I want to know what that would have been like
at the height of our career. I think I could
(41:29):
have helped a lot of people because there weren't really
many people out that you can relate to, and I
think a lot of guys out there could have related
to a young guy from Mississippi, very religious, and I
think it could have helped a lot of people. I
think also I would never have done an autobiography in
(41:51):
which I remember David Geffen we were at a party
and then he was like, oh what reck I was like, oh,
you know, because this publisher wanted me to write the
space story, like oh on space, but of course you
had to write everything in our whole life story. And
he was like, Nope, don't do it. Like what he goes,
don't do it kiss a death like okay. And yeah,
it wasn't a good experience because a lot of people
took it badly. Some stories I probably shouldn't have told.
(42:18):
And you know, you get, I want to say, tricked
into doing things, but you know, you have a co
writer with you and you're doing all these interviews and everything,
and then they kind of convince You're like, well you
got to keep it. You gotta be wraw, you got
to show your motion. So when I say I was
devastated and felt betrayed when en Sync broke up.
Speaker 4 (42:34):
That's how I felt at that time.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
But I was, yeah, yeah, it was it was you know,
and so but that's what I felt.
Speaker 4 (42:42):
It was such a It.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
Was hard because it came from like it was just
out of the blue for me, and I felt like
everyone knew except me. I felt like I was on
the outside. And so when it was just kind of
ripped it just felt like what just happened? And then
I felt like it was all my fault because I
did feel like I was the only one that didn't
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know what was about to happen. So I felt like,
then it's because of me. So I've lived with this
for years, thinking that I'm the reason that no one
wanted to continue with the band and I didn't end again.
At that time, I was like, is it because they
think I'm gay? You know, I didn't know if that
was the reason. I think because I thought people were
really starting to figure it out, because I heard rumors
(43:25):
even on that last tour, and you know, Joe mobile
Hill was, you know, talking about it, and I'm like,
oh god, and then you know we stopped, and I'm like,
is it because they thought that it was I was
about to be outed?
Speaker 3 (43:37):
You know?
Speaker 4 (43:38):
But you know, you create these stupid things that you know.
Speaker 5 (43:41):
No, we had so much more to do. I mean, uh,
if we had all decided to stay together in that moment, Yeah,
were you surprised, Well, was it what you expected of
the number of people that showed up Hollywood Boulevard for
the walk?
Speaker 3 (43:57):
Oh? My god?
Speaker 1 (43:58):
You know what, I wasn't surprised our fans. I mean,
you feel it.
Speaker 3 (44:02):
And that was crazy. There were so many people.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
I mean, the last twenty three years we have not
you know, been a band. You still feel the fandom
out there. I mean, you know when you're I mean
you just you know it. You're with the public every day.
And so I knew if we were going to do
that that it was going to be special because one
it might be the last time you ever see us together.
So I knew the fans were going to fly in
from everywhere just because it's a it's a moment for them.
Speaker 4 (44:25):
It's almost like closure.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
And and that's what it felt like to me too,
was finally there was an ending chapter.
Speaker 4 (44:32):
We were all together. It was such a fun day.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
We had that pop up, all the fans were there,
it shut down Hollywood Boulevard. I just thought that was
a nice little button like DoD okay.
Speaker 4 (44:41):
That was that was nice.
Speaker 5 (44:43):
And uh yeah, And what was the conversation that convinced
you guys to do the show? Ariana Grande can get
it right.
Speaker 4 (44:51):
I mean, that was easy on my part.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
You know, we all five wanted to do it, but
justin you know, his last show was during Coachella, which
I hate that he wasn't able to to join us. Uh,
but I mean Ariana called me, you know, and she's
just like, would you think anyone would do this? I'm like, uh, yeah,
you're fucking Ariana Grande and it's coach Hella. Uh and
we haven't performed in years, Like I'm in you just
(45:15):
have to convince JC. So you know, the next call
was JC, and he immediately was like, yeah, this sounds
fun and it was so organic and fun.
Speaker 4 (45:25):
I just loved it.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
And she made us relevant with this younger generation people
that didn't know who in Sync was. I mean, ZINC
was trending well for a long time after that, and
I mean she gave us a nice little gift that night.
Speaker 5 (45:37):
And what was rehearsals like going into that being that
you guys hadn't been together for a while.
Speaker 4 (45:42):
Just like no day had passed. Oh really, oh yeah,
was out of breath.
Speaker 3 (45:46):
Nobody had to, not that I know of.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
Because now me today, I'm better now than I was
within Sync, Like I'm a better dancer now, I'm in
better condition now. I think I'm a better singer now.
So like I was, I was ready, like was ready
to be like okay, now I can do this, And
I think all the guys are the same way. They
they know if you give them a goal, they're going
to hit it. Like, hey, we're performing in two weeks. Done, great,
(46:09):
I'll be in shape. I got it done. And yeah,
it was just it was fun. It was like, there's
just a lot of fun.
Speaker 5 (46:17):
So in the past when you guys were together, I
mean there were a few buses, Like you guys kind
of had three buses for the five of you. If
there was ever a time that you'd come back together
and go on tour, would you have your own bus,
who would be on it? Would you take your kids
on the road.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
I'd have my own bus for sure. I had to
share with Joey and that was just stinky and nobody
to do that. Yeah, I mean we had a good time,
but like Joey's a mess, you know.
Speaker 4 (46:44):
But it was fun. I mean we never had separate
buses on ours.
Speaker 3 (46:47):
It was always three and two.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
And I kind of liked our bus because you know,
JC and Justin and Chris, they took the shows way
more seriously than we did on tour.
Speaker 4 (46:59):
Yeah, like we were just you know, you would have fun.
If there was a mess up.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
Okay, I fell, I'd hit that flat note like whatever,
say okay, you know we had fun with it. But
those guys would come back on the bus and they
would just nitpick every little detail of what went wrong
on that show, right, you know they were perfectionists, and uh,
you know, I'm a perfectionist in many ways, but like,
I didn't really care about little lives.
Speaker 4 (47:21):
I mean, it was just fun. I like mess ups
when I when I see the show, you know, so yeah,
I so it was.
Speaker 1 (47:28):
It was definitely a less uh less anxiety on our bus.
But I would do it by myself this time, just
because I want.
Speaker 3 (47:37):
The kids to experience this.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
Yeah, and your husband, he's allowed to come, I guess.
But that was what was so fun, you know about
being so young and being on the road was being
able to bring your friends and family on the road
and let them have that experience. Like, my friends had
so much fun. They would be crazy as I'm working
twenty four to seven. They get to go have fun.
(48:01):
But the bonds and the stories that they have to
this day. I mean, I'm still so close to all
my high school friends because they got to really kind
of experience this whole en sync run.
Speaker 3 (48:11):
That's nice.
Speaker 5 (48:13):
So I have one more question and would gootia with
the fan questions During the lawsuit with Lou and the
perception out there was that you were going to lose
your name? What did you think if that happened you
were going to do as your next step?
Speaker 1 (48:29):
It was obviously a very troubling time. And yes, we
weren't able to use our name because Lou owned that.
I do remember Chris because you know, Chris had this
real bond of Lou.
Speaker 4 (48:41):
I mean he started the.
Speaker 1 (48:42):
Group and all that, and you know, even knowing what
a con man Lou turned out to be, Chris still
was kind of on his side, like he didn't want
to leave. He's like, you know, we we're good where
we're at. We'll just try to renegotiate, which was not
going to happen. But I know it was jac and
I that were like no, no, no, no, no, like this
this has gone too far. This is stupid. But you know,
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we didn't know if we'd have a label. We didn't
know if we had a name. We were gonna have
to start over. And you're always told out of sight,
out of mind, out of sight, out of mine. So
there was definitely a time where we thought our career
would be over because if we were dormant for too long,
another band was gonna come in and replace us.
Speaker 3 (49:24):
Well, what an experience.
Speaker 5 (49:26):
All right, I'm gonna go to some bank questions. Okay,
this is Taylor Gibson wants to know. Do you ever
get in sync song stuck in your head?
Speaker 3 (49:34):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (49:35):
Yes, there's one song in particular, and sorry, fight right,
I know you're gonna say, here we go, Here we go.
Speaker 3 (49:43):
Really every time he takes off.
Speaker 1 (49:46):
The bane of my existence, and that thing is I
probably would like the song if this didn't happen. Every
time I take off on a plane for the last
thirty something years, all I hear in my head.
Speaker 4 (49:58):
Is here we go.
Speaker 3 (50:00):
Literally we go.
Speaker 4 (50:02):
Every single time.
Speaker 1 (50:04):
So imagine the amount of flights I've flown in the
last thirty years.
Speaker 4 (50:09):
It's it's a lot. So yes, I've grown to hate
that song.
Speaker 3 (50:14):
First song in the reunion.
Speaker 4 (50:16):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, Oh god.
Speaker 3 (50:20):
All right.
Speaker 5 (50:20):
Jen Dudson wants to know what's the craziest thing ever
thrown on stage?
Speaker 4 (50:26):
Can I say it?
Speaker 3 (50:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (50:27):
I guess we're adults, right, Yeah, yeah, I think the
I mean dildo's for sure. But specifically, specifically, there were
underwear that had a dildo in it that a fan
was wearing in the front row, and they threw the
(50:50):
remote control up on the stage for us to control it.
Speaker 3 (50:56):
I am glad I wasn't vibrating, Fanny.
Speaker 4 (51:01):
I'm sure we pushed the button a few times.
Speaker 2 (51:03):
And by we mean like, yeah, okay, one of the
clarify Oh, that was the interest thing I thing I'd
ever seen at a show.
Speaker 3 (51:13):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (51:13):
And one of my other favorite things was looking out,
because you know, moms will bring their kids, and there
was this one mom in her thirties had a ten
year old boy, and but you know, he's standing on
the chair next to her, and she got so excited
that she just takes her top off, like she's just
flashing us. And all I could see was the son
looking at his mom being.
Speaker 4 (51:32):
Like mom stop.
Speaker 1 (51:35):
I think I was at that, but it was just
so fun about it.
Speaker 4 (51:39):
Oh gosh, you just scarred your son.
Speaker 5 (51:42):
Like this is from Sparksne wants to know what was
the hardest choreography for you to learn?
Speaker 1 (51:52):
Marty Kafka, He was the hardest choreographer. Darren Hanson Wade
robs all these amazing choreographers, you know, would it would
take me longer to learn it, But you know, after
a couple of days, like I got it, Marty stuff
was so it didn't look as complicated, but it was complicated.
So there were just things that my body couldn't do.
(52:13):
So there was some songs that just I could never
hit some of those moves, and I've just kind of
like fake it. Loved working with him. I thought it
was like the coolest things we ever did, but yeah,
I was like, like, I can't do some of those moves.
Speaker 4 (52:26):
Yeah, so you had to really kind of fake it
a lot.
Speaker 3 (52:29):
And then one last question for me.
Speaker 5 (52:33):
You know, we all agreed to allow Darren Henson to
use some footage from his choreography with the band when
he put out Darren's Dance Dance Screws. Did you ever
think it was going to be as big as it were? No?
Speaker 4 (52:49):
Yeah, bye bye.
Speaker 1 (52:53):
And I remember him doing it because we were rehearsing
for something or maybe just I don't know, we were
in choreography, I think here in Los Ange List and
I remember saying, oh, I'm doing this, Dan, would you
come do like, you know, can I film you?
Speaker 4 (53:03):
Just whatever? And of course I'm I sure.
Speaker 1 (53:06):
That commercial, oh my gosh played it was like the
Disney Channel special.
Speaker 3 (53:11):
Just one point five million copies of that.
Speaker 4 (53:13):
Really first year, and we didn't make a sentse.
Speaker 5 (53:17):
We gave it all Grandis because he was he was
a friend.
Speaker 3 (53:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (53:21):
I think he celebrated the twenty five years of some
big anniversary on that last year.
Speaker 3 (53:25):
Really. Yeah, you know what.
Speaker 1 (53:27):
I haven't kept in touch with them too much, but
we do follow each other on Instagram and we just
talked just the other day under Instagram because oh Montana Tucker, Yes, incredible,
Oh my god, you know Montana No, like she'sm Orlandos
from Miami, Miami, That's right, yeah, boga incredible dancer, singer.
(53:48):
I mean she's she's like the fact that she's huge
on a huge, huge and just lovely girl. So we
did for it's going to be May Day this year.
You know, people love to see the Be Me dance.
So she wanted to do with me.
Speaker 4 (54:00):
We did it.
Speaker 1 (54:01):
I mean she, I mean it was it was awesome
and she it gained me I think five thousand followers
or twenty thousand followers.
Speaker 4 (54:10):
In like two days.
Speaker 2 (54:11):
I'm like, geez, girl got like yeah, like over ten
million views.
Speaker 3 (54:15):
Yeah immediately.
Speaker 4 (54:16):
Yeah, that's fun.
Speaker 5 (54:17):
Well, I want to thank you for being on Johnny
Wrights for us to tips today.
Speaker 4 (54:23):
Well, I'm glad you got to turn the tables.
Speaker 3 (54:24):
Yeah, it was fun.
Speaker 5 (54:26):
Is there anything that you would like to say that
I didn't bring up, or conversation you want to have.
Speaker 1 (54:30):
I mean no, not really. Yeah, Like I said, I'm
such an open book. I think there's a lot of
things we talked about that I've never been able to
talk about, things I never wanted to talk about. Sorry
for but no, it's just like you know, a lot
of the times, you just want the fans out there
just to see the positive sides of everything, because you know,
we're we remind people of a good time and we
(54:52):
don't want to be negative at all, not like this show.
We're just we're never negative on the show. But sometimes
when you have to go through those stories and tell
the truth and let you know things like I didn't
think I was telling enough that you know, sometimes you
just have to live in your truth and I don't know, it's.
Speaker 4 (55:09):
Just good to get it out. It's cathartic exactly.
Speaker 5 (55:11):
Yeah, yeah, especially with people that were there.
Speaker 1 (55:13):
Yeah, and I'm glad, Like I'm so glad that we're
all still in each other's lives because so many of
my memories I just I just don't remember anything. So
it's so nice to relive these stories and get reminded
of some of the best moments of my life.
Speaker 3 (55:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (55:29):
So, and that's one of the reasons I wanted to
write the book so I could get everything down so
I don't forget it, especially the space thing, because that
was such I have such PTSD on that whole situation
that I didn't know what I was going to start
blocking out of my memory on that. So I just
wanted to get it down, and I'm glad I got
that that part time.
Speaker 5 (55:48):
Well, thank you very much for allowing me this opportunity
to interview you today. It's brought me back to my
old school days of being on a microphone. In fact,
that's where my swan song will be.
Speaker 3 (56:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (56:01):
I'm gonna buy a little radio station in Omaha, Nebraska
somewhere and play what I want to play, and then
as you guys come into town or the artists come
into town, nice to see you, go home to my
bed and enjoy life.
Speaker 1 (56:13):
That sounds so nice. That sounds so nice, like a
simpler life. It does sound really good, and that's what
we've been kind of wanting. Uh, that's why we were
trying to move back down south. But you know, plans change,
glanns chance.
Speaker 4 (56:26):
But this will not be the last time you see me.
Speaker 5 (56:28):
Oh no, we got lots of station little.
Speaker 4 (56:30):
Yes, we did lots of fun kid stuff today. All right,
thank you so much for being here, and that is.
Speaker 1 (56:36):
All the show we have for you. Subscribe, rate review.
We like to read your fun reviews on the show.
We haven't done it lately, but we're gonna we're gonna
get back into that. So be good to each other,
don't drink and draft, take care of those animals, and
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This is Frosted Tips with Lance Bass and iHeart radio podcast. Hello,
my little peanuts, it's me your host, Lance Vass. This
is Frosted Tips of Me Lance Bass. Turket Turchin's over there. Hello,
but Turkey, this is a special show. I know because
you know who's being an interview today, Lance Bass. I
can't believe Frosted Tips with Lance Bass. He's going to
(00:26):
be here to be by Beyonce starting Beyonce, produced by Beyonce,
by Beyonce. There was this Bill Bourrow on Sunday. It
was the Beyonce documentary Man.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Something Beyonce, filmed by Beyonce, Beyonce, produced by Beyonce.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
But we've invited mister Johnny right back to the show
and he's going to put me in the.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Hot scene, the hot se right now.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
And Turkey, I wanted you here because I'm sure there's
a lot of questions you've always wanted to ask me
and just never have and now you have.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Sure.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
But I really want Johnny to really I want you to.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Really just give it.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Ye spot, I am an open book now, uncomfortable now
these days, I am an open bookcase.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
You're I'm going to call you out be that's what
I heard.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Yeah, yeah, I've learned. It's weird. When I before I
came out, you know, I was like I was so closed,
you know, I didn't want to say anything. Then when
I came out, I just I can't stop talking.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
I can't.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
I don't want to. I want to tell everything. I
don't want to hide anything anymore, which gives me in
trouble a lot.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Yeah, but I'm going to really in let's see, let's
see if I can.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
I can do it.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
But Johnny Wright, I mean, take it away.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
Well, I'm not as good as you guys are in
this thing.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
You know, you were an incredible DJ back and yeah, skating.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Down the entire coast.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Yeah exactly. It wasn't a dream. It wasn't a dream.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
It was a nightmare on my feet. But yeah, I
mean I still can't get over that.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
I feel like there's a movie in this.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Well, so I just want to say one thing to that. Like,
you know, there was a guy named Dick Gregory who
was the comedian at one point in time, but he
got into become this very big health nut and his
kids used to roll a skate with us, and he
found out what I was going to do, and he said,
let me tell you something. Boy, He said, what I
want you to do is take some onions and excuse me, now,
(02:20):
I used to take some oranges and eat the orange peel.
Don't eat the orange. And I'm like why, and he goes,
because that's going to give you energy. And then if
you start to feel a cramp, get a potato and
cut it in half and rub it on you.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
And we're looking at.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
This dude, going like, this guy's crazy. The first one
hundred miles that we went, same thing. We were real thirsty,
took a glass of cold water and lemonade, got cramps
all over the place. So I said, well, let me
try this potato idea. So we went and cut it.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Within fifteen minutes the cramps were gone.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Really yeah, I've never heard that. And I'm glad lands
you get cramps.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
I mean because now that I'm highly diabetic, I get
these crazy cramps in the middle of the night because you
get dehydrated. It to the point where it's I feel
like my achilles is just like punk.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
It is so bad. Potatoes. Potatoes, yeah, the middle.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Because it takes for every good way. It is the
most painful thing.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
It's gonna be a new thing I'm gonna have to
do for you, like wretched me and I have the potato.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
You know the signs behind that or.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
I have no idea. And because we were just laughing
at him, but you know, we respected him because he
was an elder. But when it happened, we're.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Like, did you do the orange thing?
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Did the orange thing gave you.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Lots of energy?
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Yeah? But it.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
Orange field.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
That was healthy to do that.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
And he always told us, don't drink lemonade that's cold,
make sure it's warmthed out. All these things were nasty,
but they worked, you know, So that's just okay.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Tips, guys, you're welcome. Lance is going to recite this
potato thing now forever. I know it's going to be anything.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
Oh you know, you can just rub.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Potato potato like it's my idea.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
You thought of it.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
It's going to be your thing.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
Just don't call me in the middle of night.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Work.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
It's like a prank.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
Well, okay, so, mister bass, I have a question for you.
I want to know what your first impression was of
me the first time you met.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Oh uh, my first impression of you was that you were.
You have this calmness about you that I wasn't used
to because everyone in the group is crazy and everyone
around us is crazy, and so you kind of came
in as kind of the voice of reason, which was
it just felt safe, you know. I immediately it was like,
(04:39):
this guy is awesome. This guy is going to help
us finally get a record deal, and like, because we
you know, when you first start, you don't know what's
going to happen. We didn't know how big it would
be or even what we'd be doing. And I think that's.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
When we went.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
You know, when we went to Europe, we were just
kind of trying to find our sound. That's why we
were looking. I mean we were working with no music
and I mean just really horrible sounds. But I'm glad
we did that because we got to really find our
voice before we came back to America, because America would
have laughed us off. Yeah the radio if we would
have started back in ninety five.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Yeah, Oh, thank you for that.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
Was there anything that I ever put you or in
sync in that you questioned and it was like why
are we doing this?
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Hmmm?
Speaker 1 (05:27):
No, I think you always chose the right things for us,
lou Pearlman. Did I remember one of our first opening
acts was on a cruise ship. Cruise ships it's a
small yacht that like bachelorette parties would rent. And we
opened up for the Chippendales.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Like a booze cruise.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
It's like a booze cruise. But we opened up for
the Chippendales. And I remember, I'm sixteen years old, and.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Uh, he made gay? Wasn't?
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Yeah totally, but.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
I remember, I mean there were shoven dollars down our
pants sixteen years old.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
And like, I know, is this this blamer?
Speaker 3 (05:57):
I wasn't on that boat.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Yeah, So is this gonna be?
Speaker 1 (06:01):
This is our image now? I guess all right, because
at that point we didn't know what was gonna happen.
If we just signed with Disney World and be a
performing act at Disney, that's that would have been fine
by me. But it definitely got a little bigger after that,
a little bigger.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
Yeah, And how did you truly.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Feel about me or us?
Speaker 5 (06:21):
If you want to say that, managing both you and backstreaming.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Points, I didn't mind at all.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
It was always uh, you know, I did feel bad
for the backshot boys because I always try to put
myself in their shoes, and yeah, I probably would have
been pissed. I would have felt they were Yeah, yeah, like,
oh that's I just feel betrayed. Like I said in
our interview with you, I always dreamt of trans Con being,
(06:51):
you know, that motown and that we could all work
together because we really respected those guys. But then when
we saw just how hurt they were of the whole situation,
you know, it sucked. And then the rivalry started, and
then it kind of became fun.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
It was kind of fun to.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Have that rival It's like your favorite football teams. Uh,
you know, it's the Minnesota Vikings versus the Green Bay Packers.
It's the Yankees versus the Mets. It's it just keeps
you better. It keeps you on your game, and I
think your art gets better and better when you have
that friendly competition that wasn't so friendly competition.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
It's true.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah, it gets I mean it gets the fans like
really behind over support it creates.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
And again I don't know if that was like a
happy mistake, that that just how it I'll shuck out,
or that was a complete set up, you know by
the label or Lou.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
Or well, I think Lou didn't want because of the
way that the introduction of you guys being a part
of what we were doing was told to the Backsheet
boys that it was all about me, but Lou had
to support me because we were partners.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
So Lou didn't want the real story.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
To come out.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
And so that was one of those things.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
Were you ever close to any of the Backstreet Boys, Like.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Not at that time. I mean we had run into
them in Germany, but no, not all. I've become pretty
close with a lot of them after the fact. You know,
DJ is one of our class. I know everyone was
asking about that because we did the vander Pump Gala
uh this week and everyone was just asking, wait, so
(08:27):
we hear the bands get back together. I'm like wait what,
I'm like, what are you what are you talking about?
They're like, yeah, back sync and you know, because we
always do it kind of the summertime. Like, oh, like
you know those guys are on tour this year.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
So but it threw me for a loop.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
Yeah, what was the most difficult thing about you being.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
In the group.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
I didn't sing, I mean hiding my sexuality. I mean
I hated that that was so on the forefront of
my mind at all times that I don't think a
lot of the times I got to enjoy the ride
because I was scared so much and just different, like
scared just for one my safety, Scared that I was
(09:10):
going to run in Sinc's career, disappointing people, my family
like it. Just it was a lot on my shoulders.
And being in the spotlight is you know, it's scary
because everyone wants to know every little detail about you,
and when you're hiding such a secret, it's not a
fun place to be. So a lot of the times, I,
(09:31):
you know, played ignorant. A lot of times I like,
okay and try to but you know, every night, when
it was quiet, that's all I could think about.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
Did did you tell the guys that you were coming
out before the People magazine?
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Most of them, man, I tried, you know. I think
Justin and Christ are the only ones that I couldn't
get on the phone. So I left them a message,
or I left Chris a message because and I don't
know if people remember, but I had twenty four hours
to tell everyone. They were writing the story. All the
(10:07):
magazines are like, look, we know it's confirmed. We're doing
this story. Do you want to talk with us or
do you just want us to write the story? And
I'm like, so I chose people, you know to tell
the true story. And yeah, I and I had twenty
four hours to tell my grandparents, my rest of my family,
my business people. I mean, I had a sitcom that
(10:29):
I was doing that now we had to cancel because
it was you know, and now I'm out. So it
was it was a lot, Like I I lost a
lot of people in those twenty four hours. And I
mean Chris still to this day is upset that I
did not tell him I was gay, like in the
group when I because he was the only one in
(10:50):
the group that asked me just flat out are you gay?
And I freaked out and I'm like.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
No, what are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (10:57):
So I think he still is upset that I could
never be honest with them because I think they would
have had well, especially Chris, would have had fun with it.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Oh absolutely.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
I mean they gave me a lot of shit before,
but like they would have really like had a lot
of fun with me being the only gay guy in
the group. But I mean, and I ask you, what
do you think would have happened if if I came
out at that time.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
Well, you know, I think about that sometimes and I
feel like we were so big at that moment that
you were really feeling the pressure on that that I
don't think it would have changed the dynamics on the
band at all. I think that, first of all, the
guys who hated us anyways were always saying they're all gay.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Oh yeah, you know, oh look, and that's what I
tell everyone.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
I'm like, look, you know, being gay is no different
than being in a boy band, because like you get
called you know and everything. I mean, you're treated like
you're gay. And that also kept me in the closet
because I knew how much hate were getting as quote
unquote straight guys for being It's like the.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
Worst thing you could be called is gay.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
But yeah, I always wondered because the only the only
example I had of someone coming out at that time
was Ellen DeGeneres right, and it was a horrible coming out.
She got fired from everything, everyone hated her.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
It was just bad.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
And so that again, maybe even go deeper.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
I'm like, oh nope, yeah, well, I mean again, that's
personal decision. But if you were to do it, I
think we would have worked through that. My question is
you had a relationship with Danielle.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Did she know? No, she did not know.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
We interviewed her recently, and yes, she was.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
She was in love. She thought she was getting married
her family.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
And of course, I mean she was eighteen years old,
you know, first love, you know, our whole prom night.
You know, it was the cookie cutter of what she
saw her parents go through, so she thought she was
going to have that. And again I thought, I thought
that I was in love, Like I thought if I
was going to marry someone and have kids and like
do the whole straight thing and hide myself like so
(13:04):
many people do, that's the one like how could you
not love her? But then it just got to the
point where I didn't want to hurt her and I
had to call it quits. You know, it was our
prominnit and I was like, that was the night that
I knew, Okay, I can't do this to someone.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
So then in that conversation was it like, oh, well,
sex can't happen until we get married. I'm saving myself.
Very religious, and that was the other good crutch.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
I was super Christian, so like it was a great excuse, like, well,
you know, you can't have sex before marriage.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
So that one I used a lot, a lot, but yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
But then it just got to you know, the older
you get, the more I mean, you're you're growing up,
you're getting sexual, you're having your first relationships, and yes,
that is always going to lead to sex.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
And my thing is I.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Did not want her to lose her virginity to a
guy that and at that point I knew I was
going to be able to be myself at some point,
Like I knew I was gonna be out because I
just knew I couldn't be with a girl. I just
didn't know when that was gonna be. But I did
not want her to look back and be like, good lord,
I lost Margina too a gay guy, which I think
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she would probably say like, oh, I don't like I
wouldn't have minded that because you.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Know, we didn't have a love.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
Well I'm curious what was when she found out?
Speaker 3 (14:27):
How did she feel about that?
Speaker 1 (14:29):
I don't know, because when I came out, you know,
I didn't There was a lot of people that I
just didn't really talk to, and I think she was pissed,
you know, just being lied to. I think the biggest
thing that I hear what came out. I was like,
why would you lie to me? Why would you lie
to me? And people can't get over that. So I
think her and you know we call Big D Chris's
(14:51):
girlfriend like that whole crew. I think we're just really
upset with me, not for me just coming out, but
what I did to Danielle, like they thought I broke
her art. So yeah, it was you know, so I
just kind of again kind of ignorantly ignored all that.
I'm like, Okay, this didn't happen. This didn't happen. Do
you ever talk now all the time. We're really close now.
(15:14):
Years went by where we didn't really we weren't in
each other's lives. I mean she, I know, she kind
of went out and found herself, and you know, I
think she.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Married before, she was married before.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
But now we're really good, especially since we had children. Yeah,
we bond over our kids. We're producing a movie together
right now. They're actually turning our prom night into a
movie or Laughcus and Mary Hollins right in it. And
it's gonna be a comedy obviously.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
And it's not Lance Bass and daniel official, but it's
it is our story. I think it's gonna be super cute,
and so that really kind of brought us back together,
like in the recent years.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
I'm glad to hear that.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
So there have been other members of other boy bands
that have come out. Have you spoken to them and
like show support of how this goes.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Is there a.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
Community that you guys have where you text or get together? Uh?
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Yeah, I mean it's not only just with boy bands
and musicians, but actors too. I'm kind of like the
go to guy to contact before you come out. Oh well,
I mean Jason Collins the basketball player, like Robbie Rogers
the soccer player. Like all these people contacted me and
they want to go, let's go have lunch and you know,
and get the courage you know, to come out. And
(16:30):
and I like being that guy. I like being the
sounding board. So you know, there's a lot of entertainers
out there that I know their secret and they still
haven't come out yet. So yeah, they do, right, but
they yeah, they reach out, which I think is lovely
and it really bonded Jonathan Knight and myself love John
I think he's just like one of the best people.
(16:51):
And I love that we're able to just be candid
with each other about our experiences about being gay, and
his husband is one of my close friends, Harley, So yeah,
it's been It really bonded us for sure.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Wow that's great.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Yeah, but yeah, I mean yeah, I like that. I'm
kind of a guy that can be a good sounding
board for people out there, because it is scary in
this business.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Even today, you would think it is so easy to.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Come out and not be scared that it's going to
change your career. I mean it's just in the last
five ten years that you've had LGBT artists on the radio, right,
you know that are out and proud. So yeah, so
you know, if I can help anyone out there, just
call me.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Slide to my DMS.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
All right.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
So the band, you guys were all family who got
on your nerves the most?
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Oh trying to say, I'm sure each guy got on
nerves for different reasons, but I mean Chris was the
one that always you know, because Chris is always on,
just always on, always making a joke, and interviews like
this would take twice as long because Chris would just
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be Chris, and so on long press days where you'd
have to wake up at five in the morning, and
do six hours of radio back to back to back
to back to back, and then Chris is, you know,
being Chris in every single interview, making it so long
and you're so tired, and you're like, just shut off, grass,
let us, let's get on to the next one.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
Do you remember the time you guys were doing radio
in Germany and that question came up by the interviewer
and it's like, well, who's the funny guy of the group,
and everyone said it was Chris, and he says, well,
tell us a joke. You remember the knock knock joke
he did.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
Oh god, what I can only imagine.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
He said, knock knocking. She goes, who's there? And he goes,
I'll ask all the questions.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
I do that.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
I as the questions.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
And I also remember, God, we were doing I think
it was no strings attached because we were in Japan
or somewhere, and so the time difference was, you know,
really different. We had to get up two in the morning,
three in the morning and do like KTLA's and all that,
and I remember it would go from video to radio
and you just you know, they would tell you okay,
now it's video you're live, or just radio and we
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were doing KTLA and we were so tired, but they
told us it was a radio station. So I'm sitting
back in my chair.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
Like totally like rolling my eyes and a lot.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Of the questions, you know, and just acting like stupid,
like like what the fuck all on camera like they're
seeing me, and so they all thought I was wasted
like that. It's like Lance was so drunk in this interview.
He's just like sitting back on his chair like rolling
his eyes at everything, like just being like an asshole
to the interviewer.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
But yeah, that was That was a moment.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
So that's who mostly gets on your nerves. Who do
you confide in?
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Oh hmmm, in different stages, it was different people. Justin
for sure was my go to at the beginning of
the group because we were close to the same age,
we came from the same area. We just really could
relate to a lot of things, so that would be
my kind of go to to have a sounding board.
But then it quickly became Chris because we were roommates
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and I lived lived on his futon and we were
just like inseparable like frick and frack, like you know.
He was my older brother and we could talk about everything,
and I learned so much from these guys because I was,
you know, I lived a sheltered life. I had never
lived on my own. I never you know, these guys
have been working already. And then and then it became
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Joey like Joey. I feel like even today, of everyone,
I can call Joey and just be like hey and
just kind of, you know, let things out that developed
over in Which was the lead for you guys doing
on the line?
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Correct?
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Yeah, m m yeah, And that was that was a
fun time. I mean, of course, hindsight, I would do
so many things differently, like you know, like not go
with the first script they threw at us, like maybe
I should have read like ten scripts?
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Are you going with that movie?
Speaker 1 (21:22):
That was a master It was fun and it came
together so quickly because you know, we're all Hams and
we all love film and television. We would always make
little mini movies and we lived in Germany, so I
always wanted to do what the Beatles did and do funny,
stupid little movies, you know, And we got close to
doing that because that's when we were talking to Tom
Hanks and all those people that really wanted to do
(21:43):
an en Sync movie. But then the guys, half the
guys just like, now, we're not into this. And that's
where Harvey Weinstein was like, well, I'll do one with
you and Joey You're like, okay, we'll star in a
movie we've never acted before in our lives, but let's
do this. You know, it was if you don't do this,
it's no theatrical release. If you can't get Richie sionboard. No,
(22:04):
I mean just it was okay. And then he shows
up at the premiere in pajamas because he, you know,
had the flu and like.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
Why are you even here?
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Go home?
Speaker 4 (22:16):
So yeah, he was. He was a character.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
What was the first big purchase you made when you
got a real check? Not the first one you got?
Speaker 4 (22:24):
Yeah, yeah, right at the end.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
My big purchase was a Toyota four Runner that was
my dream car in high school. I was like, God,
I mean I just if I can get a full Runner,
I would I've made it. So I felt like I
had totally made it once I was able to get
that car.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
I remember that.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
And what was your most favorite performance live?
Speaker 4 (22:48):
God, there's so many.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
I mean I always go to Super Bowl because not
only was it the super Bowl, and I'm a huge
NFL fan and it's the super Bowl. But it was Aerosmith.
You know, it's my favorite band, So to be able
to do it with them was just the ultimate, the ultimate.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
Do you remember being in the what's it the area
of the room, the locker room prior to going up
on stage and what Steven Tyler said.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
No, he was mad at you guys.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
Because you guys he didn't feel you were literally like
honing in on your craft and what you don't remember this?
And he made you guys like do the harmonies like
two or three times because he's like, you guys are
just not getting those notes right.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
Oh my god, I don't even remember that.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
It's actually on film.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
No, I need to see that.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
He could know no wrong in my eyes.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
To me.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
When I heard him, I was like, oh my god,
this is going to be bad.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Like he seems mad.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
But he was given this whole speech about doesn't matter
how big you are, forget about the audience and the girls.
You got to really hone in on your crass and
the first thing is your voice and you guys need
to protect it and you need.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
To warm up and debt ed.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Yeah, and he's the reason that we started wearing in
ears right because we were in Germany and we had
just met them, saw them on tour, and we didn't
know at the time that girls put out a certain
pitch that will make you go deaf. So he was
the first to show us what in ears were and
I'm like, oh my god, that's gonna one day we'll
be able to afford these.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
This is awesome.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
What was your favorite TV performance?
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Madison Square Garden HBO special. Really, Yeah, that was just
I think it's the best. I mean, besides the Disney
Channel obviously that was very special, but performance wise, I
think that is if I were to tell someone that
doesn't know anything about in Sync, I would say watch
the Nose Strings Attached HBO Special because I think that
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really encompasses everything that we were all about.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
That was my favorite tour for sure.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Yeah, that was a great tour.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
The TV performance that stood out the best to me
was the MTV Awards when you guys put.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
The heads oh bye bye bye.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Yeah, I mean Wade Robson Man, Yeah, I mean, that's
an iconic It made an iconic moment. I mean, we
and the VMA's that was the playground. Yeah, even more
than the Grammys. You know, Grammys had to be a
little more subdued, but VMAs it was all about like
everyone had to one up everyone.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
We were the first ones to fly on TV. We
were Garth Brooks was the first one I ever saw too.
Yeah then I knew that Backtreet Boys had it in
their live show.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
But on Sailing.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Sailing at the billboardal or the Grammys, Yeah, Billboard War Yeah,
because I remember almost kicked Mariah Carey in the face.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Yeah, yep, wow, oh god.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
That was a great member of Sailing. Yeah, that's a
that was a great one.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
And when which was a cool, really cool full circle moment,
when we did the Beg's medley at the Bambi Awards
to honor the Beg's and give them the Lifetime Achievement
Award and then eight years later do it at the Grammys,
the same medley, giving them again their Lifetime ACHIEVA Award.
I thought that was and that was the last time
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we performed on television. I believe that was our last performance.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
So with your kids at the age that they are
right now, do they understand what you were a part of.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
No, not at all, not at all.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
I mean they've not even heard a song yet, and
which which is weird. We have not played them any
songs because I'm sure they would love.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 5 (26:26):
We got to talk about Station Little if you want
to talk.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Yes, Oh my god, I am excited to be working
on a project with you because you are producing this
new kids show Station Little, which is on YouTube.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
So on YouTube, kids on YouTube. Yeah, it's it's so.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Good because when the animation is great, but also the
songs are incredible. They're all bops, like you would listen
to it and be like, oh, that's that's a radio song.
But it's all about you know, children themed things. How
do you get involved with this?
Speaker 5 (26:53):
Well, Jordan O'Malley, who is a great producer, produced music
for AJ McClain and a bunch of other people. He
came to me and he said, I have this idea
and it's this animated series and it's all about music,
and it's you know, showing kids like great things that
they should be doing in their life. But it wasn't
just about the music. He also has a lesson play
(27:17):
for schools and they have a full animated comic book
in the Whole Nine Yard so when I saw it,
you know, and when I heard the music, I was like, well,
you're taking tracks and music as if you were going
to put them on real band. So that's the quality
of the production behind this. And you're writing these clever
songs that kids can start to sing and talk about
brushing your teeth and being kind to people and.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Stuff like that. So I was really excited about it.
Speaker 5 (27:41):
And again, these characters don't call you at three o'clock
in the morning when they have a problem, and they're not,
you know, so.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
Easier to manage.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
So for me it was like, okay, so I can
be involved in this project. And again not that I
have kids that age, but you know, I have a
lot of friends, and when I played it for him,
they were like, oh my god, this is great.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Any other thing about.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
It was really interesting too, because there is this question
out there should be three D or two D, you know,
And what we kind of found out and research did
was that some kids are scared of the three D
animation and they're more common connect and connected to the
two D, so we wanted to keep it that way.
So AJ had done one of the songs, and so
I was just saying to Jordan like Lance would be
(28:21):
great on this, and he's you know, we're like with
Lance always says that I'm not a lead singer, so
let's create a song and put it in a key
that he's comfortable with and that he'd be able to
really do this song in a great way. And when
I got the track back, I was like, oh, this
is amazing. And as you know, I text you and
I said you should put out a whole album. So
(28:41):
but yeah, Stacey Little, it's on YouTube and YouTube kids
right now. There's about twenty eight episodes and you're the
next one up, and we're looking forward to the world
seeing it.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Yeah, I mean it's really fine. But yeah, Jordan is
the type of person that's who you want to work with,
right His detail and his passion about everything. I've never
had anyone not only produce and write and all that.
But he's sending us social media assets and being like, Okay,
we'll do this, and his game plan is just so on. Yeah,
(29:11):
you want to do her like that. He's a good
and I definitely want to work with him again in
the future. Absolutely, all right, Station Little, check it out,
check it out. And this is what's so great about
having kids, your perspective changes a lot, and then the
art you want to create is stuff for your kids, right,
And that's kind of where I'm at right now working
on this Puufa and the Gang cartoon. I've been, you know,
(29:32):
doing writing children's books now and then Station Little, the
one that you're producing, is so great because as a parent,
you can only listen to Coco Melon.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
Severe No so much like one time.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
One time, and they do it's like crack. So I
didn't like how they spaced out. I know, and they
love it, but I can't deal with it. But Station
Little is great because you use amazing writers and producers
and it's songs that sounds like it would be on
the radio.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
Well, Jordan O'Malley, who's one of the producers of it,
you know, he produced real music, so.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Yeah he was, and he was Aj McLean's best man,
or AJ was his best man in his wedding.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (30:12):
So when they came together on this, it wasn't going
to be I mean, there's nothing wrong with wheels on
the bus, go around the round, but they wanted to
take real situations that kids would be a part of
and tournamental song but have the production, the music as
real songs, So even if you didn't watch it physically
and you just heard the song, it would actually have
a connection to you. So I'm so happy that you've
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done something and we're looking forward to putting it fun.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
It was fun to be back in the studio. You know,
it's been a long time, but yeah, I mean I
had so much fun doing that song and it's a bop. Yeah,
it's stuck in my head all the time.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
And it was interesting because when we talked about it,
it was like, well, you know one thing that Lance
always telling me about. It's like, look, I'm not going
to do an album, so I have to find other things,
which again is why your career has done what you've done.
You've branched out to do so many different things. So
I said to him, when you're putting the song together,
make sure you put it in a key that's comfortable.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
So when you did it, I was like.
Speaker 5 (31:08):
A Lance can actually put an album out right.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
And it's just so rare that anyone would write anything
in my key, because yes, I am as you can
tell a bass.
Speaker 5 (31:18):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
I wish I had a higher voice. I mean Randy
Travis did it.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
So, I mean there's been examples, but not enough examples
for me to have really gone far it because I one,
especially in the insane days, I had zero confidence, Like
I did not think I was talented at all.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
I was always feeling guilty. I'm like, why am I here?
Speaker 3 (31:40):
I How am I?
Speaker 5 (31:41):
Like?
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Because everyone was so good, I'm like why why how
did y'all choose me? So I was afraid to stand out.
I was afraid to want to go for that solo
because I just didn't think I had the chops at all.
Speaker 5 (31:55):
So back in the day, we put you through the
boot camp in the hangar that had no ace, so
you were sweating all the time during that time period.
Did you ever feel like we're just wasting our time,
this is not going to happen.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Yes, for sure, because you know, I one have no patience,
even as a sixteen year old, just no patience. Just
we want everything to happen, and you know, you get
promised a lot of things.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
Especially Lou.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Lou was always you know.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Like, oh, you guys are gonna be big, Oh it's
gonna you know, just had all this plan that everything
was just going to happen. Immediately and it didn't you know,
we couldn't get a record deal. No, timmy man told
everyone was like, no, not going to happen. And then
it was the summer of ninety six and I was
going to go back to Mississippi and finish my senior
year of high school because just nothing was happening.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
We would do a little show here.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
We would just rehearse every day, and I told the guys, look,
I'll come back on the weekends, like we still want
to do this, but you know, if it's like this,
I want to at least be able to welcome my friends, right.
You know, I wanted to finish my senior year and
I was packing my bags to go back to Mississippi
when you called and said, hey, you're signing with BMG.
(33:07):
Really you have to go to Germany like in a
couple of days. Yep, what And that type of stuff
happens to me my whole life. Oh yeah, that was
the first. You have to truly you can't fool yourself.
You have to truly believe that okay, it might be,
it's done, you know, and just and accept it. And
then all of a sudden, the universe like slaps you
(33:28):
with what you need. And then that just happened recently
we were moving to Nashville, was there literally looking at
a house, loved it, gonna get it. And then right
when I land is when I get a call about
a new project that's going to keep me here, and
I I was done. I was completely done with music.
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I mean it was the first time like it's over,
Like I just want to live a nice, simple life,
you know, continue the TV film, everything, but the music
part is just completely over. It'll never ever happen again.
And now music is now landed back to that. But
I had to but I had to truly just be
okay with accepting that it's done.
Speaker 5 (34:10):
And what was the one moment that made you feel like, oh, yeah,
it's gonna happen, It's gonna be real.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
I mean, it was so quick in Europe. I mean
we always in America was always where we wanted to
be because that's what you grew up with, and you know,
that's that's you want your friends and family to hear you.
But when we got to Europe, I mean we were
on the cover of every magazine before we released a song.
It was just so immediate on how huge we were
and you felt like, wow, this is what the Beatles
(34:41):
felt like. There's thousands of people chasing us down the
street and camped out of the hotels like this is
It just seemed like a dream, Like it didn't seem real,
it was a movie. It just all seemed fake, and
especially in a different country where you didn't know any
of the stuff, it just felt like I was living
a fake life.
Speaker 5 (34:57):
I remember the time for Germany, for those that will
understand that there was a TRL like MTV I had
here and that was called Vivo, and I remember going
into the Vivo studios like an hour before the show
was going to air, and there probably was like ten
or fifteen girls outside in that studio parking lot area,
(35:19):
and when you guys came out, there had to be
two hundred to two hundred and fifty and they jumped
all over the bus and wouldn't get off, and we
had to send security out to scatter them. And it
was like that was one of the moments where I
was like, Okay, this is about to.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Go yeah, and you know I did obviously you had
seen this before, so I didn't know what to expect.
But the day that I felt like I had made
it was when we did Rosie O'Donnell because it was
the biggest show at the time. I loved her and
she just never I mean we were on jay Leno
all that, but like for some reason, she never had
a song yet. I'm like, well, we haven't made it
(35:53):
unless we do Rosie. And then she finally had a song,
and that's when I felt that people knew who we
were for the first time.
Speaker 5 (36:00):
Memories. So, if you had to put the ultimate boy
band together, now the group that you would be in
five guys, who would it be?
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Oh my gosh, that's so it's like you know, picking children. Well,
we'd have to definitely cover all the vocal you know, basses,
so you know I'm the bass, So Kevin Richardson, you're out.
I'd have to Okay, which poison Maan because Poisman has
to be in it, because that's mainly the reason why
we all stared just one, No, just want I got
(36:33):
to pick one, Okay, you can't double dip supergroup, yeah,
I mean maybe one.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Yeah, okay, get the get to that, yeah, I get
the runs, get their lead singer. I can't pick any
InSync guy because I'm already in it.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Uh, the backshed boy I would choose would be a
j just because I love I love watching him perform.
I think he's such a great performance. I love his voice.
So that's three two more Okay in a perfect world, Okay,
one direction Harry Styles Okay, yeah, yeah, because we you know,
(37:08):
got to bring in a little young and then okay,
to give it a little Latin flavor, let's put Ricky
Martin in there.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
I mean that's that's a super good supergroup. Yeah yeah,
what would you call? Oh my gosh, super group?
Speaker 1 (37:29):
So literal, just like in Germany and England, there's just
so literal about everything speak it of. I've always I've
asked every single person coming on the show, where did
the term boy band come from? Where do you think
when did that start?
Speaker 5 (37:41):
We were always a vocal group.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Yeah, that's what we said, because we didn't hear the
name boy band until we landed in Germany. We're like, oh,
what's what's a boy band?
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Yeah? I think it was caught in the act world's apart.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
That was the Like I wonder if it was England
or Germany, because both of them sounds like that would.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
Be a term that came from over there. But we
always said we're not a boy band.
Speaker 4 (38:00):
Well yeah, it was a negative thing. Yeah, it was
a way to insult someone.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
And then when.
Speaker 5 (38:05):
America picked up on that, that's when it's like you
can't escape this.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (38:09):
Yeah, that's a pretty good group. Now, if you were
doing the movie on in Sync and you had to
cast all the parts, but they with celebrities now not unknowns,
who would you get to play each member?
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Okay, Ron Reynolds has to be in it. I mean
I'd wanted to play me, but of course he'd played Justin.
Uh no, no, actually I know who would play Justin.
It would be uh Ron Gosling. Okay, yeah, Ryan Gosling
would play Justin. They obviously work together and know each other,
so he would nail that. So I get, I get
(38:46):
you get Ryan? Wait what I say? So I get
Ryan Reynolds. Yeah, I know, I know it's far fetched,
but it's my movie, okay, And I know he loves
boy bands. I heard there was a there's an off
Broadway play where they take celebrity autobiographies and you know,
they do readings from him, and he played me in
(39:06):
one of these.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
Really.
Speaker 5 (39:08):
Yeah, I heard a rumor that he was doing a
movie or something where he was supposed to be putting
a boy band.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
I heard that too. Yeah, yeah, I heard that too.
I don't think it's true or either it just didn't
go anywhere. But you know the movie that I'm doing,
the RV movie for people that know it's these it's
a true story about these girls that win a Winnebago
on the Price Is Right and followed us on our
stadium tour.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
And Sony is making that movie. And I always wanted
Ryan because just like what we're doing here building a band,
I wanted that band at the end of the movie
to be stunt casted with all those guys like Jake, Jillenhall,
Ryan Reynolds, Ryan Gosling. Okay, yeah, Jake would be in it.
Jake would play jac.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
Okay, yeah, okay, yeah, I can see that. Uh huh.
Speaker 4 (39:54):
Chris Catan would play Chris Kapaston.
Speaker 5 (39:56):
Yeah that is funny.
Speaker 4 (40:01):
And Joey and Guy Fiery for Joey, yes.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Yeah, Danny de Vito could be Joeyer.
Speaker 4 (40:13):
Is like guy Fiery for Joey, Yeah sure, and Guy
Pier and who's loo oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Uh, Lou Pearlman would be GMT, Jeannetty, Paul, Jim Jimmy.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
I think it should be Melissa McCarthy and Dragon hilarious.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
But the one that really would have been is passed
away perfect casting.
Speaker 5 (40:56):
Is there anything that you've done, either in sync or
in your own endeavors, that you wouldn't have done now
and you would have done it differently?
Speaker 4 (41:06):
Oh? All, yeah, lots of things.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
I'm not that type of person like, oh, I wouldn't
change anything. I would change everything. Yeah, well one I
would have come out, Okay, I would have you know.
I wish I could have just tested that boundary, and
I think it just would have been It would have
been fun. I think I don't know, but I just
I want to know what that would have been like
at the height of our career. I think I could
(41:29):
have helped a lot of people because there weren't really
many people out that you can relate to, and I
think a lot of guys out there could have related
to a young guy from Mississippi, very religious, and I
think it could have helped a lot of people. I
think also I would never have done an autobiography in
(41:51):
which I remember David Geffen we were at a party
and then he was like, oh what reck I was like, oh,
you know, because this publisher wanted me to write the
space story, like oh on space, but of course you
had to write everything in our whole life story. And
he was like, Nope, don't do it. Like what he goes,
don't do it kiss a death like okay. And yeah,
it wasn't a good experience because a lot of people
took it badly. Some stories I probably shouldn't have told.
(42:18):
And you know, you get, I want to say, tricked
into doing things, but you know, you have a co
writer with you and you're doing all these interviews and everything,
and then they kind of convince You're like, well you
got to keep it. You gotta be wraw, you got
to show your motion. So when I say I was
devastated and felt betrayed when en Sync broke up.
Speaker 4 (42:34):
That's how I felt at that time.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
But I was, yeah, yeah, it was it was you know,
and so but that's what I felt.
Speaker 4 (42:42):
It was such a It.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
Was hard because it came from like it was just
out of the blue for me, and I felt like
everyone knew except me. I felt like I was on
the outside. And so when it was just kind of
ripped it just felt like what just happened? And then
I felt like it was all my fault because I
did feel like I was the only one that didn't
(43:04):
know what was about to happen. So I felt like,
then it's because of me. So I've lived with this
for years, thinking that I'm the reason that no one
wanted to continue with the band and I didn't end again.
At that time, I was like, is it because they
think I'm gay? You know, I didn't know if that
was the reason. I think because I thought people were
really starting to figure it out, because I heard rumors
(43:25):
even on that last tour, and you know, Joe mobile
Hill was, you know, talking about it, and I'm like,
oh god, and then you know we stopped, and I'm like,
is it because they thought that it was I was
about to be outed?
Speaker 3 (43:37):
You know?
Speaker 4 (43:38):
But you know, you create these stupid things that you know.
Speaker 5 (43:41):
No, we had so much more to do. I mean, uh,
if we had all decided to stay together in that moment, Yeah,
were you surprised, Well, was it what you expected of
the number of people that showed up Hollywood Boulevard for
the walk?
Speaker 3 (43:57):
Oh? My god?
Speaker 1 (43:58):
You know what, I wasn't surprised our fans. I mean,
you feel it.
Speaker 3 (44:02):
And that was crazy. There were so many people.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
I mean, the last twenty three years we have not
you know, been a band. You still feel the fandom
out there. I mean, you know when you're I mean
you just you know it. You're with the public every day.
And so I knew if we were going to do
that that it was going to be special because one
it might be the last time you ever see us together.
So I knew the fans were going to fly in
from everywhere just because it's a it's a moment for them.
Speaker 4 (44:25):
It's almost like closure.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
And and that's what it felt like to me too,
was finally there was an ending chapter.
Speaker 4 (44:32):
We were all together. It was such a fun day.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
We had that pop up, all the fans were there,
it shut down Hollywood Boulevard. I just thought that was
a nice little button like DoD okay.
Speaker 4 (44:41):
That was that was nice.
Speaker 5 (44:43):
And uh yeah, And what was the conversation that convinced
you guys to do the show? Ariana Grande can get
it right.
Speaker 4 (44:51):
I mean, that was easy on my part.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
You know, we all five wanted to do it, but
justin you know, his last show was during Coachella, which
I hate that he wasn't able to to join us. Uh,
but I mean Ariana called me, you know, and she's
just like, would you think anyone would do this? I'm like, uh, yeah,
you're fucking Ariana Grande and it's coach Hella. Uh and
we haven't performed in years, Like I'm in you just
(45:15):
have to convince JC. So you know, the next call
was JC, and he immediately was like, yeah, this sounds
fun and it was so organic and fun.
Speaker 4 (45:25):
I just loved it.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
And she made us relevant with this younger generation people
that didn't know who in Sync was. I mean, ZINC
was trending well for a long time after that, and
I mean she gave us a nice little gift that night.
Speaker 5 (45:37):
And what was rehearsals like going into that being that
you guys hadn't been together for a while.
Speaker 4 (45:42):
Just like no day had passed. Oh really, oh yeah,
was out of breath.
Speaker 3 (45:46):
Nobody had to, not that I know of.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
Because now me today, I'm better now than I was
within Sync, Like I'm a better dancer now, I'm in
better condition now. I think I'm a better singer now.
So like I was, I was ready, like was ready
to be like okay, now I can do this, And
I think all the guys are the same way. They
they know if you give them a goal, they're going
to hit it. Like, hey, we're performing in two weeks. Done, great,
(46:09):
I'll be in shape. I got it done. And yeah,
it was just it was fun. It was like, there's
just a lot of fun.
Speaker 5 (46:17):
So in the past when you guys were together, I
mean there were a few buses, Like you guys kind
of had three buses for the five of you. If
there was ever a time that you'd come back together
and go on tour, would you have your own bus,
who would be on it? Would you take your kids
on the road.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
I'd have my own bus for sure. I had to
share with Joey and that was just stinky and nobody
to do that. Yeah, I mean we had a good time,
but like Joey's a mess, you know.
Speaker 4 (46:44):
But it was fun. I mean we never had separate
buses on ours.
Speaker 3 (46:47):
It was always three and two.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
And I kind of liked our bus because you know,
JC and Justin and Chris, they took the shows way
more seriously than we did on tour.
Speaker 4 (46:59):
Yeah, like we were just you know, you would have fun.
If there was a mess up.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
Okay, I fell, I'd hit that flat note like whatever,
say okay, you know we had fun with it. But
those guys would come back on the bus and they
would just nitpick every little detail of what went wrong
on that show, right, you know they were perfectionists, and uh,
you know, I'm a perfectionist in many ways, but like,
I didn't really care about little lives.
Speaker 4 (47:21):
I mean, it was just fun. I like mess ups
when I when I see the show, you know, so yeah,
I so it was.
Speaker 1 (47:28):
It was definitely a less uh less anxiety on our bus.
But I would do it by myself this time, just
because I want.
Speaker 3 (47:37):
The kids to experience this.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
Yeah, and your husband, he's allowed to come, I guess.
But that was what was so fun, you know about
being so young and being on the road was being
able to bring your friends and family on the road
and let them have that experience. Like, my friends had
so much fun. They would be crazy as I'm working
twenty four to seven. They get to go have fun.
(48:01):
But the bonds and the stories that they have to
this day. I mean, I'm still so close to all
my high school friends because they got to really kind
of experience this whole en sync run.
Speaker 3 (48:11):
That's nice.
Speaker 5 (48:13):
So I have one more question and would gootia with
the fan questions During the lawsuit with Lou and the
perception out there was that you were going to lose
your name? What did you think if that happened you
were going to do as your next step?
Speaker 1 (48:29):
It was obviously a very troubling time. And yes, we
weren't able to use our name because Lou owned that.
I do remember Chris because you know, Chris had this
real bond of Lou.
Speaker 4 (48:41):
I mean he started the.
Speaker 1 (48:42):
Group and all that, and you know, even knowing what
a con man Lou turned out to be, Chris still
was kind of on his side, like he didn't want
to leave. He's like, you know, we we're good where
we're at. We'll just try to renegotiate, which was not
going to happen. But I know it was jac and
I that were like no, no, no, no, no, like this
this has gone too far. This is stupid. But you know,
(49:05):
we didn't know if we'd have a label. We didn't
know if we had a name. We were gonna have
to start over. And you're always told out of sight,
out of mind, out of sight, out of mine. So
there was definitely a time where we thought our career
would be over because if we were dormant for too long,
another band was gonna come in and replace us.
Speaker 3 (49:24):
Well, what an experience.
Speaker 5 (49:26):
All right, I'm gonna go to some bank questions. Okay,
this is Taylor Gibson wants to know. Do you ever
get in sync song stuck in your head?
Speaker 3 (49:34):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (49:35):
Yes, there's one song in particular, and sorry, fight right,
I know you're gonna say, here we go, Here we go.
Speaker 3 (49:43):
Really every time he takes off.
Speaker 1 (49:46):
The bane of my existence, and that thing is I
probably would like the song if this didn't happen. Every
time I take off on a plane for the last
thirty something years, all I hear in my head.
Speaker 4 (49:58):
Is here we go.
Speaker 3 (50:00):
Literally we go.
Speaker 4 (50:02):
Every single time.
Speaker 1 (50:04):
So imagine the amount of flights I've flown in the
last thirty years.
Speaker 4 (50:09):
It's it's a lot. So yes, I've grown to hate
that song.
Speaker 3 (50:14):
First song in the reunion.
Speaker 4 (50:16):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, Oh god.
Speaker 3 (50:20):
All right.
Speaker 5 (50:20):
Jen Dudson wants to know what's the craziest thing ever
thrown on stage?
Speaker 4 (50:26):
Can I say it?
Speaker 3 (50:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (50:27):
I guess we're adults, right, Yeah, yeah, I think the
I mean dildo's for sure. But specifically, specifically, there were
underwear that had a dildo in it that a fan
was wearing in the front row, and they threw the
(50:50):
remote control up on the stage for us to control it.
Speaker 3 (50:56):
I am glad I wasn't vibrating, Fanny.
Speaker 4 (51:01):
I'm sure we pushed the button a few times.
Speaker 2 (51:03):
And by we mean like, yeah, okay, one of the
clarify Oh, that was the interest thing I thing I'd
ever seen at a show.
Speaker 3 (51:13):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (51:13):
And one of my other favorite things was looking out,
because you know, moms will bring their kids, and there
was this one mom in her thirties had a ten
year old boy, and but you know, he's standing on
the chair next to her, and she got so excited
that she just takes her top off, like she's just
flashing us. And all I could see was the son
looking at his mom being.
Speaker 4 (51:32):
Like mom stop.
Speaker 1 (51:35):
I think I was at that, but it was just
so fun about it.
Speaker 4 (51:39):
Oh gosh, you just scarred your son.
Speaker 5 (51:42):
Like this is from Sparksne wants to know what was
the hardest choreography for you to learn?
Speaker 1 (51:52):
Marty Kafka, He was the hardest choreographer. Darren Hanson Wade
robs all these amazing choreographers, you know, would it would
take me longer to learn it, But you know, after
a couple of days, like I got it, Marty stuff
was so it didn't look as complicated, but it was complicated.
So there were just things that my body couldn't do.
(52:13):
So there was some songs that just I could never
hit some of those moves, and I've just kind of
like fake it. Loved working with him. I thought it
was like the coolest things we ever did, but yeah,
I was like, like, I can't do some of those moves.
Speaker 4 (52:26):
Yeah, so you had to really kind of fake it
a lot.
Speaker 3 (52:29):
And then one last question for me.
Speaker 5 (52:33):
You know, we all agreed to allow Darren Henson to
use some footage from his choreography with the band when
he put out Darren's Dance Dance Screws. Did you ever
think it was going to be as big as it were? No?
Speaker 4 (52:49):
Yeah, bye bye.
Speaker 1 (52:53):
And I remember him doing it because we were rehearsing
for something or maybe just I don't know, we were
in choreography, I think here in Los Ange List and
I remember saying, oh, I'm doing this, Dan, would you
come do like, you know, can I film you?
Speaker 4 (53:03):
Just whatever? And of course I'm I sure.
Speaker 1 (53:06):
That commercial, oh my gosh played it was like the
Disney Channel special.
Speaker 3 (53:11):
Just one point five million copies of that.
Speaker 4 (53:13):
Really first year, and we didn't make a sentse.
Speaker 5 (53:17):
We gave it all Grandis because he was he was
a friend.
Speaker 3 (53:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (53:21):
I think he celebrated the twenty five years of some
big anniversary on that last year.
Speaker 3 (53:25):
Really. Yeah, you know what.
Speaker 1 (53:27):
I haven't kept in touch with them too much, but
we do follow each other on Instagram and we just
talked just the other day under Instagram because oh Montana Tucker, Yes, incredible,
Oh my god, you know Montana No, like she'sm Orlandos
from Miami, Miami, That's right, yeah, boga incredible dancer, singer.
(53:48):
I mean she's she's like the fact that she's huge
on a huge, huge and just lovely girl. So we
did for it's going to be May Day this year.
You know, people love to see the Be Me dance.
So she wanted to do with me.
Speaker 4 (54:00):
We did it.
Speaker 1 (54:01):
I mean she, I mean it was it was awesome
and she it gained me I think five thousand followers
or twenty thousand followers.
Speaker 4 (54:10):
In like two days.
Speaker 2 (54:11):
I'm like, geez, girl got like yeah, like over ten
million views.
Speaker 3 (54:15):
Yeah immediately.
Speaker 4 (54:16):
Yeah, that's fun.
Speaker 5 (54:17):
Well, I want to thank you for being on Johnny
Wrights for us to tips today.
Speaker 4 (54:23):
Well, I'm glad you got to turn the tables.
Speaker 3 (54:24):
Yeah, it was fun.
Speaker 5 (54:26):
Is there anything that you would like to say that
I didn't bring up, or conversation you want to have.
Speaker 1 (54:30):
I mean no, not really. Yeah, Like I said, I'm
such an open book. I think there's a lot of
things we talked about that I've never been able to
talk about, things I never wanted to talk about. Sorry
for but no, it's just like you know, a lot
of the times, you just want the fans out there
just to see the positive sides of everything, because you know,
we're we remind people of a good time and we
(54:52):
don't want to be negative at all, not like this show.
We're just we're never negative on the show. But sometimes
when you have to go through those stories and tell
the truth and let you know things like I didn't
think I was telling enough that you know, sometimes you
just have to live in your truth and I don't know, it's.
Speaker 4 (55:09):
Just good to get it out. It's cathartic exactly.
Speaker 5 (55:11):
Yeah, yeah, especially with people that were there.
Speaker 1 (55:13):
Yeah, and I'm glad, Like I'm so glad that we're
all still in each other's lives because so many of
my memories I just I just don't remember anything. So
it's so nice to relive these stories and get reminded
of some of the best moments of my life.
Speaker 3 (55:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (55:29):
So, and that's one of the reasons I wanted to
write the book so I could get everything down so
I don't forget it, especially the space thing, because that
was such I have such PTSD on that whole situation
that I didn't know what I was going to start
blocking out of my memory on that. So I just
wanted to get it down, and I'm glad I got
that that part time.
Speaker 5 (55:48):
Well, thank you very much for allowing me this opportunity
to interview you today. It's brought me back to my
old school days of being on a microphone. In fact,
that's where my swan song will be.
Speaker 3 (56:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (56:01):
I'm gonna buy a little radio station in Omaha, Nebraska
somewhere and play what I want to play, and then
as you guys come into town or the artists come
into town, nice to see you, go home to my
bed and enjoy life.
Speaker 1 (56:13):
That sounds so nice. That sounds so nice, like a
simpler life. It does sound really good, and that's what
we've been kind of wanting. Uh, that's why we were
trying to move back down south. But you know, plans change,
glanns chance.
Speaker 4 (56:26):
But this will not be the last time you see me.
Speaker 5 (56:28):
Oh no, we got lots of station little.
Speaker 4 (56:30):
Yes, we did lots of fun kid stuff today. All right,
thank you so much for being here, and that is.
Speaker 1 (56:36):
All the show we have for you. Subscribe, rate review.
We like to read your fun reviews on the show.
We haven't done it lately, but we're gonna we're gonna
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