Dudes on Alabama vs. Oklahoma

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
What's up with you? How was fight night?

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Fight night was legit, man, and we're just chilling there.
I don't know who else is gonna be around. I
sit down and Shacks right next to me as well.
I'm like, oh right, this is gonna be a great note.
I love Shack. I'm already friends with Shack.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
And you're already fighting them, so yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Yeah, well I wasn't already fighting him. The fight started
because because of that situation, I us sitting next to me, Charter.
Then the interview happened.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
What's behind this? This sign right here? What's behind this?

Speaker 2 (00:24):
What's behind the jewels?

Speaker 3 (00:28):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Oh, all right?

Speaker 3 (00:30):
We got some shotgummies?

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Oh, Shack gummy bears. I bet you those are extra
large gummy bears and extra delicious. Because if you actual
Shack Diesel, he delicious. Shack Diesel looks yummy shots.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
It's literally Shack delicious excel gummy bears.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
I called it. I call it.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
I didn't even know delicious.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
I didn't even know.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
Are you are you going?

Speaker 2 (00:51):
I'm gonna try a fight. I actually would fight Shack
in a boxing match. Here's the thing. I would never
do the UFC stuff, no matter what the payment is
no matter how much money it is. But I would
box someone if the money was right, no doubt about.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
What what's right money? There we go, That was the question.
I was with, what's right money?

Speaker 2 (01:13):
You know, at least at least twelve million dollars, twelve
million dollars minimum.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
I think we can get that done. Shack Rob on
an undercard of one of the next ball fights.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
For twelve million dollars, nothing better. You know, I've been
fighting through some pain. You know, I've been fighting through
some injuries as well. Let me tell you a little something.
I've been traveling all over the place, like five flights
in a week. Man, I'm there, I'm over there, and
people are always asking like, yo, gronk, how do you
do it? You're all over TV. You're there, You're there,
You're this, you're that. And I got to set schedule.
You know, I'm usually doing a thing a day, but

(01:45):
it's a travel that occupies basically all your time because
you got to travel from one city to another at
different time zone changes. And then like my sinuses just
started like glaring up. I never had sinuses before. I
don't even know what sinus is on that.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
Big old noses never had sinus.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
It's hues. That's why everything can just passuels. Nothing gets
stuffed in that note for kids. That's why I love
having a big nose. But uh, I mean I was
like a little stuffy, which I shouldn't because of the
big nose. But my ears were a little hurting, and
I took a flight. I was going to fight night.
I was all exciting, and while we were descending, my

(02:21):
ears just start killing, I mean killing, man. I was like, ouch,
They're like just pop your you know, pop your ears
or whatever. So I'm like doing that now thinking about it,
I think I'm making it worse. I think that's how
I actually did damage to my ears because I was
so I fractured. Not not fractured, I mean basically fractured,
but I ruptured my ear.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
I rubbed from flying.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
From flying, I mean I was down a little bit.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
When you rubture your ear, does it hurt?

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Yeah, I was bleeding. It hurt a lot. But I
didn't know this yet, so I just thought, oh, I
got some ear pain. Whatever's going on? So I land
in Dallas, it's about to be fighting. It's like, I
can't miss this night. No, I can't miss this night.
This is gonna be the one of the greatest nights.
I'd never really been. The fight night before we went
to the many PACQ you out, we went to Mayweather
fight after the derby. After the derby. We don't really

(03:10):
remember it, no we don't, but we were like fifty
rows out. I mean, Tom was front row, but he
put us up, you know, literally the thosebleeds. I mean,
but at least he invited us and got us with
you freaking dola in the stands. That was a good time.
So I you know, I pop some adville just get
rid of the pain, you know, I mask it.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
That's what it's all about.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
And then the fight night was great. You know, had
a good time hung out with Shack. He was sitting
next to me talking to Jerry Jones. I love Jerry Jones,
by the way. No wonder why everything is just you know,
over the top with Jerry Jones, because he brings so
much energy to the table. Man, he brings that juice
to the table. That's what he's all about. And now
I see I see it in person now, and that's why,

(03:54):
like everything is just built up and talked about so
greatly around him. He's so good at you knowmmunicating people,
communicating with people, marketing as well, and bringing that energy
to the table. And that's what it's all about. He
was bringing that energy to the table. I was like, man,
I love this guy. He's bringing that juice.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
Because he got like an aura. He's got that area
of I'm rich as shit.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Yes, yeah, that, but also he's got that are of
let's live life, you know, let's have a good time.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
That's what it's all about.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
And we want to know this.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
I'm like the listener right now, how did this situation
go down? Did someone bring you to Jerry Jones? Did
Jerry Jones bring you somewhere? Did he send some guy
to pick up the gronk to come to his body?
How does this all go down? Who introduces his hand?
How's his handshake? Did he have any egg mcmuffins with him?
What was going on? I want to hear how this

(04:48):
went down? Beat for beat?

Speaker 2 (04:49):
All right, all right, Well, first off, I was there
because I'm with Bill Basics. I endorsed Bill Basics, the
clothing brand Bill Basics represented Mike's corner. Everyone was decked
out and built Basics. Mike Tyson had the built Basic
shorts on throughout the fight. So the owner hit me up.
He's like, hey, you want to go to the fight?
You know, Netflix will hook us up. They'll give us

(05:11):
two tickets in the front row. I sponsored Mike Tyson.
I mean, I just feel like it will be a
good time and it's a good fit and you're with Bill.
I would just love to go. If you don't want
to go, no problem. But I was like, hey, that's
a good idea front row for a fight. I mean,
you know, knock out one of my appearances for Bill
Basics as well at a fight. I mean, but then
all of a sudden, the fight's about to start at
the main event, and then here it just comes Jerry Jones.

(05:34):
I mean he's sitting right next to Shack. That's where
his seats were. And the whole time, I'm like, Shack,
I hopefully those two seats right there, no one comes
because you're so big, Like we need that extra room
because sitting next to Shock, I only had half of
my chair. Like, and then I was like, this is
what people feel like when they sit next to me.
So I feel like someone's sitting next to me because
I'm sitting next to.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
Shack, oh my god, it's two large humans.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
But then here comes Jerry Jones and his wife and
I was like, oh, I think those cherrys are going
to be sad. And I think that's Jerry Jones the
seat and he's like, oh, that's cool, and I was like, yeah,
that is cool to see that. Actually that's fine.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
And you're Jerry Land.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
He came, yeah, Jerry World. Baby, let me tell you
Jerry World. It's popping man, so hey, grow Yeah. We
just started talking man and a great guy to talk
to man, and uh, you know a lot of hype
to him definitely, which which I love. And he was
just talking about all the people in the front row
as well that were there and just giving everyone props,
you know, just very positive. We just had some conversation.

(06:32):
It was just cool to be in Jerry World and
just to be in the front row. They just have
that ore a round of of just like, hey, we're
living life. We love to have a good time, and
we're here to give everyone an experience. And without Jerry World,
there wouldn't have been that experience. So I just want
to give him a shoutout for everything that he has done,

(06:52):
everything that he has built and everything that he has
accomplished because he has given so many people, you know, entertainment,
the value of entertainment. That's what life is all about.
So thank you Jerry for that.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
I mean, he gets a bad rap because they're the
Dallas Cowboys and that's America's team and they're in the
headlines all the time, and but that's got to be
a cool experience to get to get to experience Jerry
Jones not around, you know, like that's that's an experience
between you two instead of all the headlines of this.
You get to kind of see what he's really like.

(07:25):
And he sounds like he's a pretty cool dude.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Yeah, definitely pretty cool. And you want to know what too.
He was giving all his props, a lot of props
to h Ex Cowboys because I'm a tight end. And
Jason Whitman was right on the other side too, and
he's like, hey, Jason wagings here. He's like, I love him,
And then I was like, yeah, I love Jason too.
I've had a couple of interactions with him before. I
love him.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
But he loves his boys, he loves like he's loyal
to He takes care of him, takes care of them,
so I went to the fight whatever.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
So I didn't know this. I I didn't know I
had that rupture to hear yet. So then the next
day I fly to LA and we're just sunning it again.
In my mind, I'm I'm on my knees praying to
guy like, hey man, just take away this pain. I
don't care if there's that discomfort, if there's that ringing,
just take away that pain. And my whole brain was
just inflame. I was flipping out. So I went right
to urgent care. I never been to urgent care before.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
Wait with urgent care?

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Did you go to we Land in Orange County?

Speaker 1 (08:19):
So then you went to an urgent care, a random
urgent care?

Speaker 2 (08:22):
Yeah, and you I know what's so funny is that
they were talking about me fighting Shack on the TV
in urgent care, and I hamight hoodie up wanting to cry.
And I got up like, how can I fight Shack?
I'm urgent care right now. I'm a whisty.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
Oh my god, man.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
It was just funny thinking about it now that I'm
not feeling terrible.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
Could you imagine rolling up to urgent care and you're
sitting in there in the waiting room you see fucking
Rob Gronkowski with a fucking sore ear.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
No. I know what was cool. It was no one
else was No one else was in urgent care, no
one verson no. And the three ladies that were working
there had absolutely no clue who I was either, which
I actually is better. I like, my God, I like
it like that when I have to go, you know,
and do something, because then you know, they get caught
up in the moment and it just takes longer, and
then I just wanted to get treated. Yeah, so I'm here.

(09:12):
I got a rupture to ear John, but I don't care. Man.
I actually play better when I'm injured because it makes
you dig deeper.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
Hey, you got a podcast, really got a pod.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
Let's go, baby, Let's go.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
Ready.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
Yeah, Welcome to Dudes with Dudes. I'm Jewels, Jewels, It's
Dudes on Dudes. What I said, dudes on dudes. You
said dudes with dudes. Kay, Yeah you did well.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
Welcome to Dudes on Dudes. I am corrected. That's Grounk.
I'm Jewels And this is the show where your favorite
dudes get to talk about their favorite dudes. And boy
do we have a crazy show today. Since The Oklahoma
Alabama game is this weekend. We wanted to have a
little theme of this Dude's on dudes and we're gonna
do Oklahoma Alabama. Guys. What are we talking about today?

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Well, it's an ambiguous tease of dudes. Let me tell
you that we're talking about the number one pick in
the twenty nineteen NFL Draft.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
I've watched his twitch stream. Kid is good.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
I think we should go over to the Alabama side.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
Now we're fair, We're very fair.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
This guy, though, was never fair on a goal line play.
Or he was never fair on our second and goal
in the Super Bowl where he had to make life
changing play to the hugest calves I ever seen. Other
Alabama road Tide Crimson Tid.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Currently in talks of winning the MVP.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
OFFENSEI Player of the Year. They don't get that running backs.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
You're currently going to be on the best rushing team.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
Statistically s statistically statistically see.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
I gotta read really fast because he has so many stats.
I want to make sure we get through it and
we wrap it up with our wildest college stories.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
You gotta stick around to the end.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
Roll Tide and Boomer soon.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
Dudes on Dudes is a production of iHeartRadio.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
First Guy We'll be doing today. In this Oklahoma Alabama rivalry,
is it really a rivalry? It's about to be about
to because there's Oklahoma. What did they just move into
the SEC? Can you explain what's going down in college
because I'm not truly up to date what all these
new conferences with teams moving from one conference to another?
So can you just explain to everyone out there? Because

(11:14):
I thought Oklahoma was in the Big twelve, but now
you're saying they're in the SEC? Can you update me?
Please join?

Speaker 3 (11:20):
Yeah? Conference realignment this year because of a bracket, there's
gonna be a sixteen game playoff and a lot of money.
There's gonna be a lot of money. So now UT
Texas is in the SEC, Oklahoma's in the SEC, which
is outrageous but also freaking cool because it's not a
rivalry yet, but this could turn into a rivalry. Oklahoma

(11:45):
versus Alabama is something we rarely see, but we're gonna
to see it now, you know, every year. So I
think it's awesome. The money's gonna be big for these conferences.
But the matchups man college football has been so exciting
this year watching Oregon get to play Ohio State and
these teams that you only got to see once every
Blue Moon play each other in like bowl games. That

(12:06):
now like you're getting to see Powerhouse Top five programs
play each other that you didn't get to see before.
I think it's awesome.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
That is awesome. Thank you for clarifying that the University
of Arizona is now in the Big twelve. I feel
like they replaced you know, Oklahoma. I went to the
Universey of Arizona. Here's a little fun fact. The University
of Arizona womped the University of Oklahoma last year in
the Sun Bowl, giving us one of our best Bowl
wins of you know, the history of the University of Arizona.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
Let's go gear it up.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
To the wildcastaren not doing so great this year, but
you know how to bring up some positives since we're
talking about Oklahoma and we beat Oklahoma last year. But
let's get back to it. Let's talk about Kyler Murray,
the number one pick in the twenty nineteen NFL draft.
Ladies and gentlemen, here he is, Kyler m He's a
good looking dude. Man. Look at that headband. He slick

(12:58):
he's like, looks like an half leet.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
That's swagger.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yeah, swaggy. That's it right there.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
He's like real swaggy with a swaggy captain.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
He is, Yeah, he really is.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
Let's start the clock. What's a I gotta say about him?

Speaker 2 (13:11):
All right? Kyler Murray, start with AI. AI the AI
description of Kyler Murray. Kyler Murray is a dynamic NFL
quarterback known for his elite dual threat ability, excelling both
as a passer and a runner. With AI so far
is totally spot on, spot on. Drafted first overall by
the Arizona Cardinals in twenty nineteen, he has earned a

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Pro Bowl selection and Offensive Rookie of the Year honors. Wow.
Murray has thrown for over thirteen thousand yards and eighty
four touchdowns in its first four seasons, while also rushing
for over two thousand yards and twenty three touchdown.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
Joker makes place.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
That's dynamic, right there, makes place. Before the NFL, he starred, Yeah,
he starred. I was gonna say stared, but it's I've
done that.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
Before the NFL, he started at Oklahoma Jewels. He probably
was also staring at things as well. In this fan
and you know in the in the bleachers and up
in the stadium.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
Oklahoma, right, Oklahoma.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
They got some beautiful ladies out here, so he was
probably staring, Yeah, that's just what I hear. All right,
back back to it. Before the NFL, he starred, starred
at Oklahoma, where he won the Heisman Trophy in twenty eighteen,
and after transferring from Texas A and M. See, I
didn't know that Texas A and M. How long was
he at Texas A and M for?

Speaker 1 (14:36):
I think two years?

Speaker 2 (14:38):
You don't even know.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
Let's get back that twenty fifteen, just.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
One year and then he transferred the Oklahoma Off the field,
Murray is known for his calm demeanor, love for video games,
and the rare distinction of being drafted in both the
NFL and MLB.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
Fucking AI's got him liking video games? Hey, hey, eyes
on point?

Speaker 2 (14:59):
Yeah, on point Hei is kind of a video game.
So they definitely need to get that in.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
Yeah, it's just crazy that even computers know that.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
All right, what team was he drafted by? Jules Arizona Cardinals?

Speaker 2 (15:12):
No, no, no, in the MLB, oh and the the
MLB MLB team all right, I'll give you a clue
they're moving in the next year or two to a
different Yes, Oakland, A's your hometown. Yeah, Oklan A's Now.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
I wasn't an A's fan, Rob, I was an A fan,
but you're a Giants fan. I was a Giants fan,
but the A's hat was always cool. And I mean
I went to one A's game and I think there
was fourteen people there.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
Well, I know what's crazy is there was fourteen people
that are and they went to the playoffs. Yeah, they
did go to the playoffs. Wait this year, No, the
year I win.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
I was like a little kid.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
But there was fourteen people there, like in the last
three years, at every game. And then all of a
sudden they're like, oh, we're going to you know, go
to Vegas. Which makes sense. You're you know, you're getting
fourteen people a game. You need to keep the organization going,
the money flowing. It's a business. Yeah. And then all
of a sudden everyone starts complaining that they're moving. It's like,
wait a second, Like you're not even going to any

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of the games.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
Yeah, but Oakland it's it's it's a tough thing in Oakland.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
You're from there, so let's hear it.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
You know, the city doesn't want to They don't want
to do new stadium. And I feel bad for the
people in Oakland because they've lost all their teams. Raiders
aren't there no more, and they and the A's are leaving.
They love their sports. It's it's unfortunate. But like you said,
it's a business.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
I know what's going on. What Steph Curry is stealing
all the fandom?

Speaker 1 (16:29):
Well they left too.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
They used to be in Oakland and then they went
to San Francisco, so like everyone has left Oakland.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
I didn't know that. Yeah, why did they switch?

Speaker 3 (16:38):
They switched probably with like five years ago.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
Really what just like over the bridge?

Speaker 3 (16:42):
Yeah, literally like right by five miles away, probably like
three three miles away?

Speaker 2 (16:47):
Andang, what's going on in Oakland? Marshaan, Come on, you
got to run for governor in Oakland and.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
You, Marshaan, mayor be mayor, mayor governor.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
I'll take mayor, isn't I don't think there's a governor
of a city, nos a governor.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
Of a study.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
Well, we need him to run for mayor of Oakland.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
And actually Marshall has a podcast with them.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
All right back to Kyler Murray. Ladies and gentlemen. All right,
here's some fun facts. AI spitting out fun facts now.
Kyler Murray is the first athlete to be draft in
the first round of both the NFL and MLB. Stud
He has a deep love for video games and is
an avid player of Call of Duty, often streaming on
platforms like Twitch.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
Dialed, kid is dialed. I've seen him. I've seen him
shoot out a bunch of sweaty little tryhards.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
I've watched his Twitch stream. Kid is good.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
The kid is dialed and he I mean, he's accurate
on the field, He's accurated on the map.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
Is he like as good as like one of those
video gamers, like what's his name, like Ninja? You know
Ninja is yeah?

Speaker 1 (17:46):
I know Ninja now the face guy?

Speaker 2 (17:48):
Yeah? Is he like in that level he.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
Competes, he plays with them, and he and he holds zone.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
I think Kyler Murray kind of plays his game like
after a video game too, Like you know how Madden,
like the quarterback runs all over the place. That's like
what Kyler Murray does. Maybe transfers.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
I mean, he is a video game player. So if
you're like some like five foot ten high school kid
that had Madden. You would put up all the status.
You'd make your guys still five to ten, but you'd
put all your Madden guy stats up to ninety nine
at five ten. And that's what Kyler Murray looks like
on the football field, like ninety nine speed, ninety nine arm,
ninety nine quickness. What about his elusiveness When we were

(18:26):
watching the film, you think he looks like Johnny Manzel,
he does.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
He kind of looks like Manzell when he was in
college at Texas A and M because they both started
at He's a bad thing. Yeah, they both like run
kind of straight up. They're both the same height in
their feet, both like pity patterer like that. Yeah, But
Kyler Murray is at another level of speed and elite
quickness and kind of like take Johnny Manziel what he

(18:49):
was doing in college and then you you throw him
on the Cardinals and make them into Kyler Murray and
they kind of.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
Played a similar way, similar, similar, similar. I just think
Kyler is in a whole nother ct.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
Oh a hundred percent speed. But they have the same
body type, they did same movements, the same sprints, Yeah,
sprint movement.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
I can see we were watching in the sauna. You're like,
it looks like Johnny Monziel. I'm like, kind of does
look like Johnny Monziel, all right.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
One more fun fact. Despite being one of the shortest
starting quarterbacks in NFL history at five ten, how tall
are you, Jewels, I'm five ten, all right. So he's
the same exact tight as you can you imagine yourself
behind you know the line of five ton throwing passes, you.

Speaker 3 (19:27):
Know when you watch his film. He's got such great feet.
He'll take like a seven step drop out of a
freaking shotgun, snap and darted like he has really good
I can't imagine it. That's why he's a one of one.
This guy's freaky because like he's five to ten. He
doesn't play small. He could play within the pocket, but
he changes the game. He moves the pocket a lot,

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but sometimes he makes those big plays in the pocket
because he has such an arm I really think he's
like a Madden player. He's almost unfair, like when you
play GoldenEye when you were a kid and someone will
to be odd job, odd.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
Job I do.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
He was tiny and he was kind of like wider, Yeah,
but he would just like crawl all.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
Over there gets events, yes, and you can never see him.
And he had automatic headshot every time. Yeah, automatic head
shot because his gun level was higher.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
So it was so much he had the golden gun
at all times. He was so accurate.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
I'm telling you, Kyler Murray's odd job bro unfair.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
Yeah, Kyler Murray, He's accurate on the move. He has
exceptional vision, even being at five to ten. Just watching
his film, I mean, he can make every throw in
that game. He can do the deep ball, you know,
lead the wide receiver so he can get underneath it,
so the receiver can turn his jets on and go
out and get the ball and outrun the defender. Also
the back shoulder too. That's what I was really impressed

(20:41):
with Kyler Murray was his back shoulder throws. I mean
half of the deep ball's were back shoulder. Was the
way just how quick his feet are is just incredible.
It's like like even when he's dropped little speeding, even
when he's back piloting in the pocket and he's right
when he gets like his seventh step and he plants
in his back foot, boom, the ball is out out
and he's reading the defenders like no other and gets

(21:02):
it out to the guy that he needs to get
it out too, so he can do it all. He
can do it all in the past game, and then
he can do it all in the run game.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
Anticipates really great also because of his height. You watch
him and he'll throw before guy's out of his break
like it's a perfect throw.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
Wasn't he a heman? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (21:17):
Yeah, he won the Heisman, won the he dominated in college.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
When he was at Oklahoma. They didn't win it all
though they weren't national champion, No, but they were in
the mix of it.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
They're in the mix.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
Lincoln Riley, I believe, right, Lincoln Riley over there, you're
a man of Kyler.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
I never met Kyler before, man, never met him in
my life, not even betting the same vicinity as him before.
Usually like with every athlete met him real quick or
ben like at a party with them, Like this is
one guy just never seen Maybe he's just so quick.
I just just never seen him when at the party.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
Maybe he don't go out.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
He's back at home.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
Game and yeah he's playing those games.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
I mean he's on Phase clan. He joined Phase Clan
right the.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
Partner with Call of Duty. Yeah, he was on like
call of Duty. I think Black Ops six ad campaign.
I mean I was a call of duty give me
back in the day. I'm actually the guy that loves
to play dal Reese Zombies. Yeah, on Call of Duty.
You ever play it?

Speaker 3 (22:12):
I mean at the level zombie A zombie that was.
That was a while back.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
I used to run home my fourth year in the NFL,
and I used to run home right at three thirty,
right when we got out of the meetings, would run
home and I started playing Zombies and we started three
forty five and we would probably play until about nine
thirty at night, and like you would get the level
like thirty eight, and it takes like three hours, and
then you get killed and then you just get so mad.
You would restart and then you would have to get

(22:36):
back to level thirty eight. It takes another you know,
three hours to do it, but you got to get
past level thirty eight this time, so you're like automatically
playing Zombies six seven hours every night.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
I was like that with like when Fortnite first came out,
I mean we all liked the game, and it's a
it's a good outlet for an athlete because it keeps
you out of trouble. Honestly, if you go home and game,
Like I know, he gets a bad rap. And I
thought it was kind of kind of crazy that they
had to put in his contract. Ooh, like he had
to watch film and stuff. You don't want them from
your quarterback. But this is a new generation quarterback.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
You.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
Yeah, know what a.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
Guy does on his downtime if he gets all his
work in, yeah, is whatever.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
That's like the least thing you got to worry about too,
Like the guy's playing too many video games, Like let's
put it in his contract that he has to study
this much amount of film before he can leave the
building or whatever it was, because he's gonna go home.
Like imagine if the guy was going out, you know,
getting in trouble out at the club till three am,
then that's a problem. I mean, he's going home to

(23:34):
play video games and video games like when you get
lost in video games, it's actually like one of the
best feelings in the world. Like when I was playing Zombies,
I'm telling you, like nothing else mattered in my life.
Like if I had a bad game that week, it
didn't matter. I had like four hundred kills. I killed
four hundred zombies. I'm saving the world. Like then't matter
what football was going.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
It's an outlet for you to hang with the boys,
talk with your friends, like have to think about stuff.
It's a way for you to get lost. And I
understand it. So Lebron just when he came out he's
a top hundred Madden player.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
I guess so, I mean that's his claim to fame
of playing Madden. Doesn't he an't claim the fame, but
claim the fame of playing Madden. I don't know if
he's really a top one hundred player. He's never posted anything.
Usually if you're that good.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
You're always is he posting?

Speaker 2 (24:24):
So? Is he posting? Has he posted?

Speaker 3 (24:27):
He posts?

Speaker 2 (24:27):
Is someone playing for him?

Speaker 1 (24:29):
I just feel like I just feel like Lebron, Who
wins Lebron?

Speaker 3 (24:34):
Kyler?

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Who wins? I think Kyler Murray wins because Kyler Murray
had a you know, a cause in his contract that
he has to study film before he can go home
because he wanted to play video games that bad.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
So who wins in two? K Lebron or Kyler Kyler?
Do you think Kyler is beating Lebron?

Speaker 1 (24:50):
Hands when.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
Ar exactly? It transfers over to every video game. When
you're good at one, when you're the best at one,
you can play every other video game.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
Well, the thing is Lebron is in our age. He's
my he's like around my age, and we started with
three buttons. When you're on Sega or Nintendo, that's three buttons.
Kyler Murray's like twenty two or something that it was
Kyler twenty eight.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
Twenty six. He started having like twenty pasts.

Speaker 3 (25:18):
So he's been using all his little fingers on all
those little computers. Like, and he's probably a keyboard guy.
He's like, you bet you he's keyboard as fucked.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
Does he have a clutch gene?

Speaker 1 (25:28):
He does?

Speaker 3 (25:29):
He has that hell Mary right, yeah, hell Mary d
haw Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
Does he have a playoff win?

Speaker 2 (25:34):
I think he has a clutch gene, But like.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
He doesn't have a playoff win. You gotta you gotta
you can't have clutch gene in the NFL and tea.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
Yeah, but he has like a clutch gene in regular season,
like he makes plays, like yeah, he like the clutch
gene is him making plays at any given time. He
does not have that clutch gene and getting that team
to the next level. Yeah, I mean, you know how
hard it is in the NFL to get that hard level.
It's hard to win. There's some other great quarterbacks, other
great teams out there, but he does have a clutch
gene to make big plays. And you want to know

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something else about the Arizona Cardinals. They're not a consistent team.
They're not going to the playoffs. He doesn't have a
playoff win, but they're a team that can upset any
other team any given Sunday after.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
Dangerous they're the dangerous team where and it's because of
Kyler Murray. If everyone plays well on their team and
Kyler's got it going, they're hard to beat. Going through
coaching change now, you know you're trying to redo the roster,
revamp the roster, it's tough.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
They got some guys, Marvin Harrison Junior. I love them.
I mean, those two are going to be a dual.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
Fan I know.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
But they've been struggling to get him the ball. How
about that Hail Maury, the Hail Murray in twenty twenty
COVID seasons.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
See what you did there, Hail murrayl Murray where he.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
Went back and he threw it and de Hop came
down and that you got that picture of d Hop's
big old hands snagging that football. What a crazy It
was voted to play of the Year that year, was
a Nasties or something like.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
What eleven seconds left, three yards? You know the throw
was and it was till what beat the bill?

Speaker 3 (27:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (27:04):
They were down by how many?

Speaker 1 (27:05):
They were down twenty eighty three to nine in.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
The third in the third and they came back.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
But getting back to last play, what's what's the key
to stop in the last play?

Speaker 1 (27:14):
Hail Mary?

Speaker 2 (27:15):
Well, first off, it has to be a hell Mary,
because if it's not, and you put a guy like
myself in then the Miami miracle happens.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
I mean openfield tackle.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
Yeah, openfield tackle. That's not a hell Mary though, So
let's get back on the hell Mary. The key to
defend hew Mary. My quads were hurting that day, Okay,
they were tired. I had a couple of catches that game.
It was a bad year. Okay, we won the Super
Bowl that year.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
It's okay, six foot six guy in open field with
thirty that's so hard.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
Why the freaking tackle them? Though? That would have been
the highlight of my career.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
What do you think you had to do to tackle him?

Speaker 2 (27:47):
Uh? Not slip. I kind of slipped.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
You got, as Scottie O'Brien say, you gotta scallop, scallop
and gather, don't stop your feet, keep your feet moving
in and break.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Well, I didn't do any of that. Let's get back
to hell, Mary, because I've defended one of them before
and the key to defending a last second play is first.
So if you got to get like a wide receiver,
the biggest guy on your team out there, that's athletic,
kind of like a randy mom you used to be at,
turning to myself and you just gotta go up there.
You know, you're not even trying to, you know, intercept

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the ball. You just want to get a hand on it.
If you get a hand on it, you know play
is going to be completely over and you're trying to
smack it down as well. You don't want to smack
it up in the air because then it can go
anywhere and then anyone can catch it at any given time.
You know, just go up, jump as high as you can,
kind of try to push another defender down because they're
not really gonna call flag on that play. I mean
it's kind of like the known rule on a hell

(28:40):
Mary and just swap that thing as you can, kind
of like you're swatting a fly out of the air,
like and then game's over.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
Game is I just got an epiphany of like Rob
playing beach volleyball and just slamming the ball down in
someone's face.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
You play back swiking. I love beach volleyball.

Speaker 3 (28:58):
You're probably nasty, you know.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
I got to play more beach volleyball. I don't play
me neither. I mean I love it. I used to play.
I mean I played probably five times in my life,
and I loved every time. Beach volleyball is cool. But
the thing about beach volleyball is like the competition is
always real because it's not like you're going to go
out there and it's going to be beginners, you know,
playing beach volleyball, it's always people that are like legit
volleyball players that legitly play on a daily basis or

(29:23):
they formerly played in college. You got to be ready.
You got to practice like we should be one on
one for a little bit. You're going to get the
bass spiked right off.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
Right street, meet the no, what's that movie?

Speaker 3 (29:37):
Meet the parents, no where.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
That volleyball is going to become your best friend, just
going to spike off, yeah castaway. Yeah, you and that volleyball.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
We should put you in the Olympics in four years,
start training you for volleyball.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
Well I would do really here. Everyone else has already.
Everyone else is six seven six eight, and they're really
good at volleyball. Well, why would I be on the team?
Oh I know why. I can stand on my third
leg and then I'm so in two and then I
just put my hands over than that. A great blocker, Yeah,
great blocker. Time all right, Well, what kind of dude
is Kyler Murray? I mean, Jules, it's been twenty one minutes.

(30:11):
I know, we still haven't gotten down to the point
as he has stud you know, is that thought his
sim's football IQ's there? His pedigree of the game is there?
Is he a freak? Which he kind of is a freak,
just how fast he is and how elusive he's freaking
He's freaking one hundred million percent for especially his height
and what he was gifted with. Dudes, you know, dudes.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
Dude, didn't he didn't he do a trip or something?

Speaker 2 (30:35):
L possibly? Yeah, trip where I think what he invited
like a ton of his teammates out. Yeah, got a chef,
got some massages.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
Rented a mansion, and he's like the fresh prince of
bel Air.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
Team bonding team.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
That's that's how we never really did team bonding trips.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
Oh we did.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
We did here and there, Montana. We would do like
random routes.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
We would do random route team trips, whereas Tom just
calling you up, Hey, let's run some routes. It's the
off season. Let's make sure we still got it and
we can maintain and it'll just be out of nowhere.
And we would do it wherever we are, wherever U
se La. The freaking grass field in the middle of
the woods in freaking Massachusetts.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
The thing that pissed me off though, Like Tom would
find like a sixty yard patch of grass that's like, oh,
it's grass. We could just run routes here and sometimes
it'd be the most uneven grass and you're over here,
like Tom, we gotta we gotta sprint on this stuff.
But like you know, this is like put a Formula
one car on a fucking gravel pit.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
I mean, what are we doing here? Yeah, you know
what I mean?

Speaker 2 (31:37):
This is not what we're you know, we're a monster
truck in the Grand Canyon.

Speaker 3 (31:43):
Yeah he's not. It doesn't belong, it doesn't.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Grand Canyon is going to eat up the monster truck
a long time. The monster truck loses.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
But yeah, Team bar Yeah that's real. I like that.
I like hearing that.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
So that that means he's kind of dude.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
Dude, all right, all right, especially to all the video
games too.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
On a count of three, you say what you think
he is, and I'll say.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
What I think he is?

Speaker 3 (32:05):
All right, rady one, two, three? Wits would you say?

Speaker 2 (32:11):
I said freak and you said whiz.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
I said whiz.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
But he can only be one.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
So he's not a freak or he is a whizz.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
I mean he is a whiz. I mean he's a
dual sport athlete. So obviously you got to be super
smart to know the inside and out of both games
and be there. I bet you he could write, but
that's freaky as well, write right code.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
Yeah, he plays video games on keyboard. He's a whizz.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
We're talking athleticism though, athletic wise.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
Yeah, he's he's a freak. He's football, but he's not
like seven feet tall.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
And everyone that's five to ten is that fast and
move at.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
The quarterback position. Yeah, he's elite.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
If I like, if he was moving like that at
my size, then that's freaky.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
Because of his his athletic speed and his ability to throw,
he's so innovated. He's part of that whole innovative running
quarterback that like everyone's trying to get.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
Now and you're convinced me, Joel, let's try again. Now
you ready? One? Two, two, three? What is there?

Speaker 1 (33:13):
He's a freak?

Speaker 3 (33:14):
No, you said waz You said freak? Yeah you did.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
I scream with so loud I didn't hear you. So
that means with.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
Me like that, we'll be right back after this quick break.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
So we got an Oklahoma sooner with Kyler Murray our
next guest, though, I think we should go over to
the Alabama side.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
Yeah, we're fair, We're fair. We're very fair.

Speaker 3 (33:43):
This guy, though, was never fair on a goal line play,
or he was never fair on a second and ten
in the Super Bowl, or second and goal in the
Super Bowl where he had to make a life changing
play to create and tackle h Marshawn Lyn. And this
guy had the hugest calvs i've ever seen. Next guest

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Dante Hi Tower. Doanta? I mean Dante Hi Tower. Donta
Dante even I know it's Dante. I'll get into it
after Ai. And which AI have to say about Dante
because we know.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
Is the AI synopsis. Obviously, I'm improving my speaking skills
because I couldn't say synopsis on our very first episode, Julianna,
and now I can. So this is what's so great
about Dudes on dudes is that we're getting smarter as
well being complete dudes overall.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
Synopsis synopsis.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
All right, here we go the synopsis Dante this week
looks he's a former NFL linebacker. Dante Hi Tower is
a former NFL linebacker known for his leadership and versatility
on the field. A two time Pro Bowler, High Tower
played his entire nine year NFL career with the New
England Patriots, the same amount of years I played with
the New England Patriots, nine, helping the team win three

(34:55):
Super Polk titles, just like myself helping the New England
Patriots win three Super Both titles. I love this guy already.
Prior to his NFL career, he was a standout at
the University of Alabama, where he was a key figure
and winning two BCS national championships. This Frisbee guy is
a winner, that's all I know. Five championships at the
highest level, two in college, three in the NFL. Over

(35:18):
what over a thirteen to fourteen year period. Ridiculous winner
winner Chicken Danner, that's for sure. Born and raised in
lewis Bourg, Tennessee. Oh, the Walls must not like him.
That's I don't want to go to Wow. Maybe he
didn't want to go to Mayos ff.

Speaker 5 (35:37):
Steps, Oh, shots fired all right.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
High Tower was known for his high football IQ and
relentless work ethic. After retiring in twenty twenty two, high
Tower joined the Patriots coaching staff while also pursuing business ventures,
spending time with his family, and engaging and charity charitable work,
earning admiration for his calm and thoughtful demeanor off the field.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
Oh that's my guy.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
He is calm and does have that demeanor of being relaxed.
But he will rip your freaking head.

Speaker 3 (36:18):
Off, face off, He'll bring your arm off. What's the
first thing that comes to mind when you think about Dante.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
I'm scared of Dante, Hi Tower, But the first thing
that comes to mind right now is I'm looking at
the picture of him in high school and he looks
exactly like Matthew Slater but with big ears like alf ears.
So if you can put that up, please and show
everyone he's he was Matthew Slater in high school with
alf ears. I just looking at the picture. Pretty pretty dog,
slay dog. Shot more shots fire that former teammates.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
Pum pum.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
We love shooting shots at our former teammates. Please shoot
him back. We appreciate there's one guy who can't handle
our shots fired at him. To think of it. Yeah,
but Dante high Tower was a better linebacker than Yeah,
they're short linebackers. But all right, back to Dante. All right,

(37:08):
here's my story. This guy I was scared of. Actually
he was what first round pick New England Pagers like
top top fifteen or some When you have a linebacker that's.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
Twenty fifth six, what is he?

Speaker 2 (37:20):
Six four six three, you know, sixty and can move
like he's a little guy. I'm scared of those guys.
You want to know why, because they got that leverage.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
He's not a little guy, you're just massive.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
No, I'm scared of those I don't know why those guys.
I'm scared of those big guys that are in the frame.
Why of six you know, one to six four and
are wide as well, like you just said, because they
got that leverage and they can get underneath me. And
then that's when I lose. And I don't like that.
You will see, I gotta outsmart these guys. So Dante

(37:57):
I had, you know, try to outsmart them on the
football field, going very so in practice. And that was
just to not get touched by him, you know, try
to run away from him because he was always gonna
win versus me and camp. I was a rookie. I
was coming off that ankle injury. I wasn't a rookie.
He was a rookie. I was coming off the ankle injury.
When you know that guy in Baltimore and broke my ankle. Pollard, Yeah,

(38:20):
very very so. I didn't really heal that well that
whole year. I was at South Padre Island spring break.
My cast and everything came back every time in my
ankle was good. It really wasn't, you know. But don't
tell Bill, Bill, don't listen to that. Okay, you've done
things like that too, Jules. So that's gonna make me
feel better just saying that. But uh, I can't get open.

(38:43):
I'm not doing this well in training camp. My back's
goting to go out of me because I'm compensating. I'm
just making excuses right now. Why Dante, you know, dominated
me when he was a rookie. But this guy, when
they're that wide, they're built that strong. You could just
tell he had that presence of yo, I ain't gonna
move that guy. No one's really gonna move that guy,
being sixty three two hundred and sixty pounds. And I

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accidentally like caught caught him one time running your route
try going around him, and like we caught like shoulders
or something. I can't exactly pinpoint what it was, and
like it was kind of like a cheap shot on him,
but it was totally accidental, and I yeah, it wasn't
a chip. It was like he was at the linebacker
position kind of stepping up for the run and kind
of ran into you. I think I kind of face
masked him or something and then like yanked it a

(39:27):
little bit. He turned around and he was furious. He
was vicious and was like, oh man, he took it
to a whole other level the next play versus me,
and I literally learned I will never piss off Dante
High Tower ever again.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
You got to piss it.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
You mustn't do something crazy, because I never really seen.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
Him pissed off.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
Yeah he was mad, man, he was mad. The guy's
a freak. You can't really block him in the run game.
You can't really stop him in the past game either
if he's rushing at you because he can move so
well and can get around you, or he can bowl
rush you. So the guy man freak of an athlete,
no doubt about that. And I swear if you go
to a barbecue with him, he'll eat like fifteen pounds

(40:09):
of like rabbi steak and briskey. He can eat.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
When'd you see I.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
Mean whatever at those team outings that we have, and
like it turns in the muscle right on the street muscle. Yeah,
like you know how the Wolverine character or whatever and
like the Hawk, like they just you know in those movies,
like whatever they do, they just you know, turn into
the creature that they are. Like that's what he did
when he ate that food. He just turned into Dante hitar.

Speaker 3 (40:33):
Dude, I mean his nickname was Zeus, which is like huge,
huge Greek.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
I remember, like really, he was a rookie and I
was already telling him that he's going to sign one
hundred million dollar deal at the middle linebacker position.

Speaker 3 (40:46):
Did you yeah?

Speaker 1 (40:47):
How'd you know?

Speaker 2 (40:47):
Because I was facing I'm like, this guy freaking good.
He good, he can move cover, can you know? Stop
the run? He can do it all I mean, And
he's scary.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
He looks like the predator out there because he has
dreads like creating. But when he got dreads and you're
that big and wide, Dante looks like he has two
houses for calves. His calves are so damn big. Is
the largest cat. I used to tell him that every
day I walk by, he'd be in his sandals. We'll
be walking by each other in the hallway. I see
his cam, like, Bro, can you fucking ease up on

(41:18):
the calf raises? Jesus Christ, it.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
Wasn't the calf raises, It was the brisket. It was
probably the right to his cat. Right to it drew
right to his calve.

Speaker 3 (41:30):
And Dante was a smart ass football player, smart, very
smart football player. And I remember going to his house
once and I walked over there and he, like you said,
he's just like a he's a quiet he's kind of quiet,
but he's vicious. And I go to his house and
I'm like, is that a fucking video game station with
keyboard and mouse? Dante high towers a keyboard guy in

(41:54):
the video games. I go, what the fuck is this?

Speaker 1 (41:58):
Bro?

Speaker 3 (41:58):
He goes, what Brover?

Speaker 1 (42:00):
You know, he's like a whiz.

Speaker 3 (42:02):
He's a fucking whizz, this guy. He's insane on call
of duty too. Don't don't let him. Don't let him
tricky and think he's not. He's a fucking gamer. He
used to he was really good.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
Well that's why he's a football coach now for the
New England Patriots football because you gotta be smart, you
gotta be a whiz in order to be a coach.
How do you think he's doing a coaching I feel
like he's doing fine.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
How do you think they're feeling over there?

Speaker 2 (42:24):
I feel like Dante is always feeling good man. He's
never down. He's he is man, he really is. He's
the guy that had the ultimate pass from Bill Belichick.

Speaker 1 (42:35):
He always had.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
That's how scary he was a coach, was even scared
of him. I don't think coach is scared of him.
Coach loved He wasn't scared of him. Man, he loved
him because he was He was a well built football player,
and he played the game how it should be played Bill,
and Bill loves Yeah, he did. We're offense. That's why
we never got loved jewels. Who else had the Bill pass?
Basically a male that pass? He could do whatever he

(43:01):
wanted to do. And Bell that's fine, you.

Speaker 3 (43:04):
Know, Devin Belichick mccordy, I mean, that's one of his sons.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
I think that's his actual middle name.

Speaker 3 (43:09):
Now, who else was another one?

Speaker 2 (43:11):
And Past? We mean, like, you know, if they didn't
want to practice, or if like they're you know, hamstring
was a little sore, they be coach. I can't. I
can't go to a coach, But no problem, Past, just
hang out in the training room and get it rubbed on.

Speaker 3 (43:26):
You know.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
No, I was thinking more of the past.

Speaker 3 (43:28):
You know how Bill's been over here testing the guys
around a show, like, Hey, who's this guy?

Speaker 1 (43:33):
Who's that guy?

Speaker 3 (43:34):
Well, for the offense, he'd be like, hey, Rob, what's
the exotic front of the defense that you expect to
see on third and two, and Rob's sitting there like
going through the What the fuck? Hey, Devin, what color
is the offense that we're playing? If they're at home?
H Green, Yes, good job. Like that's the past we're

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talking about, or like whatever you have a question to
like the defensive line, like do these guys like to
run the ball or pass the ball? They got Derrick Henry,
I'm like, uh, coach, I'm on offense. I think they
like to run the ball. God, hey, g what is

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the punter? What school did he go to? I mean,
that's that's the past we're talking about. And Dante got that.
Bill love Dante and it was deserving.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
Dante was. He was one of the alphas.

Speaker 3 (44:29):
He sat in the Teddy Bruski locker when you walked
into the I think it was either the Teddy Bruski
or the Willie mac locker. They'd always put those two
guys in because when you had to walk in the
locker room, you had to walk by those guys. He
was one of those guys.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
I mean he was. He was a great teammate.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
Where would you rank him as an all time you know,
Patriot player on the defensive side of the ball.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
I mean he's got to be up there.

Speaker 3 (44:50):
I mean, we wouldn't have had the Super Bowl if
he didn't make that second down, that second down goal
line player.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
That's very true what you said. We would have never
won that Super Bowl. That Malcolm Butler catchould have never
happened because Marshawn Lynch would have scored already. And everyone
talks about, hey, why didn't Marshawn Lynch get you know,
the handoff or why didn't they hand off the ball? Well,
it was a play prior to that, wasn't It wasn't
the exact play before. Well, Marshawn Lynch did have the ball,
and what happened one on one with Dante high Tower

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And you never seen Marshawn Lynch never go down ever
one on one on one and literally Dante high Tower
is the only guy that can you know, possibly do that,
and he knocked him right down and he stopped him
in order to play in order to get to the
next play that Malcolm Butler had that interception, so they
already gave it to Marshaun Lynch to have that chance
to score. So without Dante high Tower, we would have

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never had that, you know, first super Bowl in New England,
no doubt about it. And then and another big play
that he has had, you know, in his career was
that stripsack in the game that unfortunately I didn't play
in because my backup blown out when I went up
to see him because Tom threw me up to see
him earlier that year. And then I got leveled and

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lost a lung and them back and I still came
back the next year. But yeah, and that Super Bowl Versutlanta,
that strip sack. Man, So just continue the domination of
the comeback. That was an incredible play. He comes through
in the clutch at all times.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
I still who blew your back out?

Speaker 2 (46:17):
Earl Thomas? We're not going that deep about who blew
my backout? D it was. It was a dude, though.
It was a dude. His name was Earl Thomas.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
He was a torpedo.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
Yeah, torpedo. What was a big play that you can recall?

Speaker 3 (46:30):
The guy always had a big play when the team
needed it. I mean, you go back into college in
the National Championship, he had a strip sack. That's the
kind of player Dante was fucking when your team needed.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
A big play, a big moment. He was super versatile.

Speaker 3 (46:44):
I remember him, he'd be middle linebacker and we put
him at defensive end sometimes because he could rush a
passer like he just was big time player to make
big time plays. That is a huge contribution. Why I
have three Super Bowl rings you have four is a
huge part of it. I mean, we wouldn't been there
without him. You know, I'd always call him. If you
see how his name's spelled, it's don't a with apostrophe,

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and so I used to call him Danta very you know,
I used to call him a Danta in the locker room.
He go, Jewels, don't you call me Danta? I go,
why not Danta? He goes, because if you call me,
all these white people out here in Boston, they're gonna
be calling me Danta. Don't you fucking call me Danta.
My name is Dante. I'm like, all right, Danta, Jules Jules.

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Even I knew it was Dante.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
You must, you must, you must have had a bad day,
I knew.

Speaker 3 (47:39):
I just wanted to call him Dante to make fun
of us time.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
Well, what kind of dude is he?

Speaker 1 (47:45):
What kind of dude is.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
Kind of dude? Danta? I mean, Dante? You're getting me
on that freaking I'm.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
Telling you, don't.

Speaker 3 (47:52):
Whatever you do, if you see Dante, do not call
him Dante. He'll get really mad at you. He'll blame
it on me. He'll fucking blame it on me. Don't
call him don What kind of dude is Dante? I
mean he's he looks like a goddamn stud.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
He does look like a stud.

Speaker 3 (48:07):
He's a freak too. I mean he's got house for calves.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
I feel like he's he hits dog.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
He's a dudes. Dude, he's a dude.

Speaker 3 (48:16):
Yeah, he hits them all on three. Let's let's see
which one on three?

Speaker 2 (48:20):
Hold on, I gotta think about it real quick. All right,
I'm gonna go yeah, because he's all five, So let
me try to pinpoint it down the one.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
On three, one two three studs.

Speaker 3 (48:32):
I think he's a stud.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
I think he's a whiz. That's why he's a coach now.

Speaker 3 (48:35):
He is a coach.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
Yeah, and he knew the game of football like no other.
I mean he's got a national champions he has, he
has five, you know, championship.

Speaker 3 (48:43):
And like he was a first round linebacker. He had
a lot of hype coming in and he backed up
all the hype. Did he like, you know what I mean,
he's age. I mean he's a freak too. I mean
he made big plays in big situations. He's got a pedigree,
he's got football IQ, and he looks like a Greek god.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
But making big plays in a big game is a whiz, Jules,
because he knew when to make that play to turning
it around for the team. Does that make sense? Yeah,
he is like a but I would say though, we're
trying to categorize it into what like he most represents.
A wiz is a guy that doesn't have the freak

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abilities and they get through because they're so smart, and
they're not getting through because they're a freak or a stud.
So that's how you become a true wiz. So therefore,
he was getting through as a freak and a stud
and a dog. So he can't technically be a whiz
because being a whiz didn't really lead him to where

(49:47):
he needs to be. Maybe now as a coach, going
back to that, I'm going to have to categorize him
as a stud or a freak. So let's go let's
go back at it again and try again. Ready, one, two, three?

Speaker 3 (50:01):
Stud?

Speaker 1 (50:04):
For sure, he saw his Cats. You just it was
screaming stud.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
University of Alabama.

Speaker 3 (50:12):
Another Alabama road tag, Crimson Tad.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
Currently plays for the Baltimore Ravens.

Speaker 3 (50:18):
Baltimore Freaking Ravens is currently in talks of winning the MVP.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
Probably Offensive Player of the Year.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
They don't give that the running backs.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
Is currently gonna be on the best rushing team statistically.

Speaker 3 (50:33):
Right, statistically statistically in.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
NFL history with Lamar Jackson, are they on pace?

Speaker 3 (50:39):
They got it?

Speaker 2 (50:39):
They gotta be on pace. Derek Freaking number twenty two
Henry the Baltimore Ravens. Let's get to the synopsis. AI.
Derek Henry, standing at six foot three inches and weighing
two hundred and forty seven pounds, is a dominant NFL
running back, renowned for his rare combination of size, speed,
and power, making him one of the most feared rushers

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in the league. He has a mass over ten thousand
rushing yards and ninety eight touchdowns in his career, earning
multiple Pro Bowl selections and the twenty twenty NFL Offensive
Player of the Year award. In high school, Derek set
the national record for career rushing yards when it astonishing
twelve thousand one hundred and twenty four yards at Yule
High School in Florida, averaging two hundred and fifty yards
per game. See, I got to read really fast because

(51:23):
he has so many stats. I want to make sure
we get through it. At the University of Alabama, Henry
won the Heisman Trophy and said both the single season
and career rushing records, I mean, this guy breaks every
record at whatever level he's at. I wonder what the
Pop Warner stats were. Easy. We can't get there because
it's just what takeaway.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
Hey, he's got it all though.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
Yeah. While he spent most of his career with the
Tennessee Titans, setting the single season rushing records record with
twenty twenty seven yards in twenty twenty, he is currently
he beat Chris Johnson two k with that with that
number right then, He is currently setting impressive records with
the Baltimore Ravens, including the team's franchise record and most
rushing touchdowns in a single season already and it's only

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like not even halfway through this season. Henry is celebrated
for his work, ethic and humble personality off the field,
where he is involved in charity work and is regarded
as a role model. Start that clock.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
Start the clock.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
First off, I want to get to this right off
the point. His nickname is King Henry. There's a guy
in basketball that we all know him, know him as
is King James. Who is the ultimate King Jules, King
Henry or King James. Let's hear your thoughts.

Speaker 3 (52:29):
King Henry or King James. Lebron is a generational guy.
But if you talk about King Henry, he's a generational guy.
This guy I two hundred and forty seven pounds running
away from people. That is such a hard question. I
didn't even know you're gonna ask me that. I'm going
I'm a football guy.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
I gotta go.

Speaker 3 (52:50):
I gotta go King Henry. It sounds better. Is there
was there King James back in the day. It's probably
King James back in the day, isn't it? Is that
why it's King I just put that together. They both
have kind of king names. They got both king names.
I like King Henry. I'm going King Henry. Just don't
name because it sounds but there's a King James back there.
I'm going Derrick Henry.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
Alright. I like that pick. And what's incredible about you know,
Dereck henry Is. You know you said that size is
just impressive and how he can move what two hundred
and forty seven pounds, But I swear he looks huge,
he looks massive. He's too forty seven, but I swear
he plays and looks bigger than he even it's like

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he's sixty three two forty seven. It's like no, no, no, no,
he's like six six eighty running the ball. That's what
it looks like.

Speaker 3 (53:41):
I remember when we played against him. I walked by
him after the game, like, who the fuck is his
defensive end? Oh my god, it that's Henry, that's Jesus,
he's so big.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
That's no.

Speaker 3 (53:53):
I wouldn't want to tackle him.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
No, she wants to tackle him.

Speaker 3 (53:57):
I mean, screwed them, they say at the end of
the game. I'm not tackling in the beginning of the game.
Might get a concussion getting one of the knee drives.
He got some. He looks like a goddamn semi truck.
That's on fucking.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
Nos, he is a semi truck.

Speaker 3 (54:12):
On Yes, that's Racis, that's what he is. He's a
semi truck.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
Like when he sees that hole open, like he hits
that button, furious, furious, he just flies right through the whole.
I think he was what so far he clicked in
as the second fastest player as a ball carrier in
the NFL fortier recorded second fastest player. I mean, freaking
ridiculous being that size. What I love about him too, man,

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he's a true role model. Man. He's never gets in trouble. Never,
never on the field, never off kings is he in trouble.
He doesn't smoke, he doesn't drink. He eats completely clean.
He's basically on the Tom Brady diet. I think.

Speaker 3 (54:56):
Vegan.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
He might be vegan. I'm not I'm not sure about that.
He could possibly could be. I mean no gluten, you know,
he you know, cuts the sugar down. It's all real
sugar and fruits and all that good stuff. He takes
care of his body, does the cry otang sign us.
He actually goes to the same treatment guy that I
see as well, my friend Bobo who's out of Nashville.
He gets those vitamin bags and hydration bags to make

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sure that he's always good to go. You know, on
top of his games, he's always burning fuel, so he's
got to always make sure the vitamins and fuel are
always coming in. He's just doing everything right. And that's
what I love about him. He's a great example to
the young generation.

Speaker 3 (55:33):
Have you seen his off season workouts on YouTube?

Speaker 2 (55:35):
Yeah, And I've actually worked out with him before one time,
one time in Dallas, Texas. Yes. Let me tell you, man,
this guy don't get tired. He don't get tired.

Speaker 3 (55:44):
What'd you guys do for a workout?

Speaker 2 (55:45):
And like I was with my brother, my two brothers,
and like we were just looking at his arms, and
like his arm was bigger than all three of our
arms combined. That's why I don't understand how he doesn't
weigh like two hundred and eighty pounds, Like I weigh
too sixty and he's twelve pounds less than me. And
I'm like, but your arms are three times the size
of mind, Like I don't like. I think he's tricking everyone.

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I think he really is too eighty. But you know
in Pop Warner, when they don't let you play because
you're overweight. Anyway, I don't think the NFL would let
him play if he weighs in at two eighty at
the running back position. So I think he literally is
to eighty because he's that big. But they just list
him as two forty seven, so he's actually qualified to
play in the l.

Speaker 3 (56:24):
Dude, Yeah, so you're working out with what year was this?

Speaker 2 (56:28):
This was a I think last year, a year and
a half ago, two years ago.

Speaker 3 (56:32):
The first thing the guy, you say, damn, his arms
so big in your.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
The first thing I said. I was memorized. And what's
another thing about him too, Like he's having this career
year with the Baltimore Ravens.

Speaker 3 (56:46):
It looks like he has an age.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
Yeah, he has an age because, like I said, he
does everything right. And when you do everything right and
take care of your body like that, you don't age.
He hasn't lost a step and he's just getting faster
and faster, bigger and bigger. He has that motivation like
he's thirty years old. As a running back, he has
taken so many shots to the body, and I feel
like just I just feel it like he has a

(57:08):
chip because like I feel like the Tennessee Titans, you know,
kind of didn't give him that respect that he deserved
last year. You know, like they were like, oh, we
got to change up our offense. All we do is
give the ball to Derek Henry, Like they let Derek
Henry walk, one of their best generational generational talents on
the offense side of the ball in the history of

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the Titans, and they let him walk that easily. That
kind of shows a little disrespect. I mean, it might
have not been disrespect, but it just shows like they
didn't really trust in him or thought his career was
going down. So I think he's on a rampage the
show the Titans. Hey, look what you're missing out on.
You thought, oh, we got to switch up the offense

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because we're handing me the ball too much. Well that's
all the Tennessee Titans had, was handing the ball to him.

Speaker 3 (57:57):
Well it's not just the Tennessee Titans that are part
of his fuel.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
Everyone else could.

Speaker 3 (58:02):
Have signed him.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
Everyone else he could signed. I thought he was done.

Speaker 3 (58:05):
Dallas Cowboys need a running back. They could have signed him.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
Oh man, we don't even got to get into that.
I mean, but I've spent in the news for the
last month with Jerry Johns.

Speaker 3 (58:14):
But this is, you know, this is some like Tom
Brady type stuff. You know, because at thirty one at
a running back, he's doing things that don't that's not normal.
This is not normal, and that that's why this is
so freaky. He doesn't eat sugars. He doesn't do He
takes care of his body, he doesn't eat any fried foods.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
He works out like crazy.

Speaker 2 (58:33):
He fries his defenses.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
He fries defenses.

Speaker 3 (58:37):
When you were talking about chips, I was like, man,
you know, he's a big chip on his shoulder. He
probably doesn't have any chips.

Speaker 2 (58:43):
Probably.

Speaker 1 (58:44):
I was thinking that because those are fried.

Speaker 2 (58:46):
I was like, man, he's not. He's not falling in
into our tostitos commercials.

Speaker 4 (58:50):
No.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
He sees the commercials like, oh, those are good commercials,
jewels and grind, but I ain't eating those.

Speaker 1 (58:54):
No, he don't eat those. He didn't need to do that.

Speaker 3 (58:57):
Caw chips, Yeah, he probably has killed he does and
Kale ships two hundred and forty seven pounds ninety nine
yard touchdown.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
That is that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (59:05):
I remember watching that play and what everyone always says
with Derrick Henry when you're playing against him. I remember
Bill always talking about it. You cannot let this man
get going, keep his feet moving. You gotta have pressure
in the middle of the pocket. If you let the
train go, you ain't getting on it. And that's exactly
what that ninety nine yard touchdown was where he stiffed armed.
The dude still gets to speed, gives a little back backwards,

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stiff arm still gets to high speed. It's something like
you said, you marvel at when you see a person
that does things that have never been done before like that.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
It's kind of like myself a little bit. And that's
why I love I love the way he plays. I mean,
I love all big men out there, whatever positions. You love.
Big men, yeah, I love big man. It's dudes on
dudes here, of course. I love big men.

Speaker 3 (59:51):
I like big guys.

Speaker 2 (59:52):
Yeah, big sweaty men as well. And guy's sweating because
he's always running for two hundred plus yards every single game.

Speaker 1 (59:59):
Every game he's on He's like, damn, he's on pace
to beat the.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
Record this year he has. He has some of the
greatest stiff arms in the game.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
You do too, you're your stiff arm.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
I had a couple, but not as many as Derek
County because he has touched the ball like one hundred
thousand more times than myself and he's still going. That's
crazy and he's still going. It's like, you know, he's
twenty one years old out there.

Speaker 3 (01:00:18):
To the amount of times he's touched the ball, and
he hasn't had like knock on wood, he just has
he can last. Where does he rank in all time
running backs?

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:00:29):
Man, he's got to be up there. He's got a
two thousand yard Season's.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
Got to be up there. The reason why he doesn't,
you know, maybe get the respect you know that he
should have been like an all time great running back
is because he's not a traditional running back like those
other greats. They're all more like pity pattern, make five
guys miss, and.

Speaker 3 (01:00:47):
Then Jim Brown he's kind of Jim Brownie. Yeah, but
he's just so Jim Brown was so much bigger and
athletic than everyone. He's to swat those guys around.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
Derek Country's game is a little bit different. When he
sees that hole, he just hits anos like you said,
and just goes right through it, runs over in his way.
It's just incredible how he can do that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:08):
Was he like a Dickerson Dickerson knees straight up a
little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
I think he could possibly end up being one of
the greatest, top three greatest running backs to ever play
all time, all time, because if he continues this path
for another four or five more years, which he has
not shown any decline, any decline at all, any at all.
He hasn't slown down one single bit. He only gets better.

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And he's a different style of a running back.

Speaker 3 (01:01:37):
And he's going against littler defenses right now, Yes he is.
These defenses are all.

Speaker 1 (01:01:42):
Built up for the past, all a bunch of receivers.

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
I love his game because he's a big man. I
love big man man's.

Speaker 3 (01:01:50):
Yeah, Barry Sanders, Walter Payton, Jim Brown, Emmett Smith, Adrian Peterson,
Derrick Henry. I mean, he's this generation that's great right now?
Is our generations great? The last great running back after this.
McCoy's in there, Shady's in there, but like I'm talking generational.

Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
If he wins a championship, he's up there. If he
wins the super Bowl this year.

Speaker 3 (01:02:15):
If he wins the super Bowl, I mean, it's it's
so crazy that on this episode we've talked about Madden characters,
like you have your two like complete opposite Madden characters.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
You have like when you.

Speaker 3 (01:02:26):
Make the funny little guy on your Madden that's like
ninety nine everything and then you get your like your
funny big guy. It's like six foot four running back
like Derrick Henry that can outrun people.

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
It's it's it's crazy these guys.

Speaker 3 (01:02:39):
He's a free You don't see guys that big run
that fast and take that much pounding and get up
and do it over and over and over. And I
feel like we see a fifty plus run every year,
every like three times a year with this guy, fifty
plus run.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
Wait, three times a year more like every other week
he has a fifty plus ever?

Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
Is it not crazy?

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
Yeah, it's crazy. He's got a huge chest as well,
like like his irons are massive, ball Like I swear
his chest it looks like the rock, you know when
the rock has a shut off and the chest goes
like oo, Like it's that massive.

Speaker 3 (01:03:14):
He's jacked.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
He looks exact same as he did, you know in
high school. He has the same frame, but like every
year he just got bigger and wider and wider. Like
he was. It looked like he was six or three
already in high school and just can run all day.
But he's just growing and growing and growing and growing
every single year.

Speaker 3 (01:03:33):
Vernon Davis, he was staying like he was like that
as a kid, and he kept one getting bigger and bigger,
and his speed never got slower and slower, like it's
that's like anomaly.

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
Shit.

Speaker 3 (01:03:45):
I mean he could be the greatest running back in
high school's history. Freshman year twenty four hundred yards, twenty
six tds, Sophomore year twenty seven hundred yards, thirty eight tds,
a little a little dip in the junior with twenty
six hundred yards and freaking thirty four ties. Just to
top it off a senior year. Let me just put
the cherry on the old top. Let's go forty two

(01:04:07):
hundred yards and fifty five What the who is who
is he playing? Who is he playing?

Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
In thirty five eight touchdowns a game high school in Florida?
They got some legitimate.

Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
As that eight?

Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
Do they have record? I didn't know they put things
on records in high school. That is fucking crazy. Twelve
thousand yards in four years.

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
This guy has been a freak since high school.

Speaker 3 (01:04:33):
One hundred and fifty touchdowns in four years.

Speaker 1 (01:04:38):
Do the math.

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
He's a Hall of Famer at the high school level,
hall of Famer at the college level, and a Hall
of Famer at the NFL.

Speaker 3 (01:04:45):
First ballot, without it, without a doubt, It's crazy time.
What kind of dude is Derrick Henry is a freak.
I don't even got it, negotiation, it's it's I mean
it is a freak.

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
He's a dog.

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
He is a dog. He's a freak, but he's absolutely
freak of nature.

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
Heck of a player.

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
No one can tackle him. The guy was born to run.

Speaker 3 (01:05:06):
We'll be right back after this quick break.

Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
All right, let's get to the post show.

Speaker 3 (01:05:15):
In honor of this awesome college matchup, Rob and I
are gonna take a little trip down memory lane and
relive our glory college days.

Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
Oh back to school, back to school, to proof to
my mama, I ain't no fool? Is that Billy Madison
something like that?

Speaker 3 (01:05:38):
Back to school?

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
Because I'm not a fool.

Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
I'm no fool.

Speaker 3 (01:05:45):
Let's go down memory lane of our college. Why did
you choose Arizona?

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
You know, that's a great question, and everyone asked me
that because I'm from Buffalo, New York. I actually played
my senior year actually in Pittsburgh at Woodland Hills, But
I'm technically am I claim myself in Buffalo obviously, I
grew up there for seventeen years. So my dad's in
the business world of selling fitness equipment commercially in retail,

(01:06:10):
and he goes on those conventions, you know, those business trips,
and he met a friend there that did the same
exact thing that he does in Arizona. And that guy
was an Arizona Alemni, you know, part of the desert
storm defense and all that. And when we were growing up,
he became my dad's good friend. And every time they
went on these you know, business trips, I always met
up I was growing up. We were just kids, so

(01:06:31):
he was in my dad's here. Hey when your kid's
biggest wildcat aleemni loves the wild, Hey, when your kids
grow up. They got to take a trip to University
of Arizona. And this guy became really good friends with
my dad, So you got to bring him the University
of Arizona. So then my older brothers they were going
to recruit it. They weren't at a high level. So
whatever you can do. You got to call up a friend, Hey,
can you, you know, have this coach look at my son.

(01:06:52):
So I actually went on the trip. So I just
tagged along. When I was a sophomore in high school,
just to see what it was like. And I got
on a busy trip. Yeah, and I got to the campus.
I was like, God, damn man, what kind of school
is this? I mean they got pools, I got palm trees.
I mean it's sunny every single day, it's ninety degrees.
And that's when I first fell in love with the
University of Arizona. So shout out to Donnie Salem. He's

(01:07:15):
still doing the same thing. He's still in the fitness world,
selling fitness equipment, retail and commercially. He's actually a sponsor.
He sponsors the Denver Broncos because he's based out of Denver. Now,
so without Donnie, I would have never been at the
University of Arizona.

Speaker 1 (01:07:29):
Freaking Donnie. I went to Kent State.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
Yeah, yeah, Why did you pick Kent State? Jules? Like
Kent State? Like you're from the Bay Area. Kent State's
in Ohio. I mean, I think they do Halloween really
well in Ohio. But I don't think you were into
things like that when you were a kid. So why
did you pick Kent State? I picked Kent State. I
went Mike Golan in high school.

Speaker 3 (01:07:51):
Is I just wanted to play Division one quarterback D
one didn't matter where. I just wanted to go D one.
I really wanted to go to be playing the pac ten.
I wanted to go to because that's where I was
from that area. And Aaron Rodgers went to Butte and
I went to Juco and he went to Berkeley after
so I kind of like wanted to go to Berkeley.
Played one year at Juco, lit it up, and then

(01:08:14):
all these schools started to ask him, you know, sending
me letters, and Kent set me out and offered me
a scholarship after my first year, and a lot of
these schools wanted me to change positions. Kent's like, we'll
let you compete for our quarterback right now. I took
a trip out there, and I had the opposite thing
of what you had of like, oh, palm trees.

Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
I was like, man, it's freezing out here. There's no leaves.

Speaker 3 (01:08:36):
I was coming from California, where it's never really fall
out here, you know what I mean, And it was
like bear, it was cold. I went to a spring
practice and I was like, fuck it, man, if I
go here, I could I could play. I could play
right away. I watched their practices and I was like,
I'm going here. Fuck, it's the best thing to happened
to I'm med up playing the cold, can't stay going flashes, baby,

(01:08:57):
let's go. Shout out, Casey.

Speaker 2 (01:08:58):
Did you have any other offers after that one yet? No?
Just Kent State. Just Kent State, so you're going there
no matter what Kent State.

Speaker 3 (01:09:04):
Well, I still had another Juco.

Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
I had another your juc Oh you could have played Juco.

Speaker 1 (01:09:08):
I had one more your Juco.

Speaker 2 (01:09:09):
But you were paying for Juco, right.

Speaker 3 (01:09:11):
Yeah, but it's like five hundred bucks.

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
So what five hundred dollars you didn't have you would
have had to take out a loan or a free ride. Yeah,
five hundred dollars a month from the school.

Speaker 3 (01:09:19):
My pops took care of that one.

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
That's a good pops right there. Shout out.

Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
Did you have any other offers?

Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
Yeah? I had a couple other ones. My top four
was Ohio State, Clemson, Syracuse because it was right down
the street, about three hours away from Buffalo and Arizona.
So those were my top four schools. And I had
actually had the wildest recruiting visit to the University of Clemson.
I had one of the best times. I mean shout
out to my host I don't even know their names
out there, but they're probably telling the story to this

(01:09:45):
day still of those guys that were on the team
that hosted me at the University of Clemson.

Speaker 1 (01:09:50):
What's this story?

Speaker 2 (01:09:51):
I mean? I remember I was on a bar, I
was dancing, and then like I don't know, there was
chuliders there and I was just just going ham like
I usually go ham like that's all I wanted to,
like hammered off, like Apple juice. I'm talking, yeah, Apple juice,
hammered and it was great time. I had a voicemail
after I picked the University of Arizona like some girl
that night. I guess I gave my number two, like

(01:10:13):
literally left the voicemail on my phone after I picked
the Wildcast and was like basically just told me how
bad I messed up with my decision. Yeah. I'm not
going to exactly say what the voicemail was, but I
was like, this is incredible. I thought I was so cool. Yeah,
Ohio State. Ohio State was awesome, right there, I was.

(01:10:33):
I was hung over off Apple juice there too. And
that picture that went viral when I was in high
school and took a visit there. I was definitely, you know,
a little apple juice, and I was at the game.
Let me tell you, Ohio State Clemson, you can't beat
their facilities, you can't beat their organization, you can't beat
the crowd, you can't beat their stadiums. But it just
wasn't my fit. And if you know me personally, I'm

(01:10:54):
not a guy that can get intrigued by that type
of stuff. I'm a guy that sticks to my roots
the universe. If Arizona was where I belonged, you know,
I felt at home there. I felt like I could
go there and play right away. And also at the
same time, I knew, if you did well enough it
was Division one, you're gonna go to the NFL. Like
there's guys going to the NFL at Arizona. So I
was like, I can get to the NFL. Still, So
it wasn't like D one. I wanted to, you know,

(01:11:18):
be part of a team that turned it around, like
coach Dups Ohio State thought. I mean, I was blown
away about everything, but at the same time, I was like,
I can have all this if I make it to
the NFL. And you did, yeah, and I did.

Speaker 3 (01:11:30):
Did you almost get kicked out of Arizona at all.

Speaker 2 (01:11:32):
I never really have. I mean, we got in a
couple of big fights. That was probably I would probably
say that was the closest to getting kicked, you know,
off the team. But there was a big, huge fight.
There was like ten guys evolved. Like I got brought
in like three days later by the police officer that
was investigating it, and he was actually on our side.
And lately, I didn't even like open my mouth. I

(01:11:54):
didn't tattle telling anyone. I was like, I don't even
know what fight you're talking about. And he's like, no,
I'm here for you. I'm on your guys' aside. But
still I'm like, I I don't know, man, I was
just walking by, and I don't really remember much. Krunk
no rat, Yeah, no rat, no rat. Stick to the roots.
Arizona was where it was at. Other schools were great, beautiful,

(01:12:14):
nothing bad to say. Just I belonged, you know, at
the University of Arizona, and.

Speaker 3 (01:12:19):
I belonged to Kent State. You did belong to Kenstate,
and I loved Kent State. It opened up my perspective
to the country, you know. I mean it was a
great the people, the Midwest and Ohio and Northeast Ohio
are such awesome people. They love football out there. I
was just always disappointed because I went to Kent State
and everyone would leave our game to go watch the

(01:12:40):
Ohio State game. Like we had no fans if Ohio
State had a game during the same time, people at
our school, at every school in Ohio love Ohio State's
I didn't realize how big it was because, you know,
I grew up in the Bay Area where you know,
we had Colin Stanford, but it was really a pro
sport area. We had Niners, Giants, Warriors, Sharks early in

(01:13:02):
my life, you know, came in there and Colin Stanford
were big, but it wasn't huge. And I didn't realize
how big college football was until I went to Ohio
and I saw how big Ohio State and that fan
group was. It was freaking crazy to me.

Speaker 2 (01:13:17):
Here's a question. I've always wondered this, because Ohio State's
so big. They get one hundred, like ten thousand plus
people a game, and you're, you know, you went to
school in Ohio at Kent State. Is Ohio State the
football program out of all football programs at any level
in the state. Of Ohio. Does it dominate the Cincinnati Bank,

(01:13:37):
does to dominate the Cleveland Browns. Yes, if you're in Ohio,
you grow up in Ohio, it's all about the Buckeyes.
Or is it about the Browns or the Bengals?

Speaker 3 (01:13:46):
More Buckeyes Number one guarantee. You could go anywhere in
the state, Like you go down to like Cincinnati, and
you can see this in like gas stations, or you
go to like cracker barrels.

Speaker 1 (01:13:57):
That are all over they'll always have Iowa State shit.
They're sowing Ohio state mugs.

Speaker 3 (01:14:03):
This that you go to, like the West Virginia part
of Ohio where it touches down there, you see nothing
but Ohio State. You go up to Dayton, which is
a different area, like near Indiana and stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:14:14):
They love Ohio.

Speaker 3 (01:14:15):
They love Ohio State everywhere in Ohio.

Speaker 1 (01:14:19):
I couldn't.

Speaker 3 (01:14:19):
I didn't understand it. It's huge. Did you ever host
any recruiting trips with any other NFL guys?

Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
No, not really. So when I was at the University
of Arizona, they didn't allow me to host anyone.

Speaker 3 (01:14:32):
Why.

Speaker 2 (01:14:33):
Yeah, I hosted one player and we got chased by
a helicopter.

Speaker 3 (01:14:37):
No, you didn't I swear, what do you mean you
got chased by a fucking helicopter?

Speaker 2 (01:14:42):
We got chased by a helicopter. I hit under a
car and this recruit was running around with me. It
was a top juco recruit. I thought. I thought I
definitely sold him. I thought he's definitely coming to the
University of Area. He didn't know he ended up going
to Arizona State. I never seen him again until he
goes Arizona State. I was like, I thought he was
definitely gonna choose the University of Arizona. And then and

(01:15:03):
then I'm on the Patriots, like twenty sixteen or something.
I don't know when, what year exactly. We signed some
guy in the practice squad mid season alignment. He comes
up to me. He's like, yo, grac remember me, and like,
you know back of my mind, I'm like, I do,
but I don't because I'd never seen him again. He
left after that night. He was gone and chose Arizona State,

(01:15:25):
big time crew. He's like, yeah, you hosted me at
the University of Arizona. And then everything just started clicking
and I was like, oh my gosh. I was like,
how you doing? How you doing? He's like I will
remember that night for the rest of my life. But
I can't believe you went to go be a devil.

Speaker 1 (01:15:41):
Yeah, I mean he can't be.

Speaker 3 (01:15:43):
He can't sit footing Tucson anymore because we didn helicopterial
chase me anyway, Arizona State.

Speaker 2 (01:15:49):
The you know, message of the story of Hangover, it
was basically, we were at a party and got broken up,
and there was always a helicopter that broke it up,
and everyone started running, and just the priminent premises of
the of the stories, the helicopter followed us. So then
that was like the.

Speaker 1 (01:16:06):
Two biggest guys. This guy's a.

Speaker 2 (01:16:09):
We got away. We got away Scott Free to help
my skills, help my football skills on the field. If
you can get away from a helicopter, you can get
away from a defender. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:16:21):
Well that's been another episode of Dudes on Dudes. What
could we do better? Next episode? Let us know, guys,
we want we want to hear from you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:16:31):
We do what can we do better?

Speaker 1 (01:16:32):
What do you think we want to know?

Speaker 2 (01:16:33):
I've been trying to, you know, scroll through the comments
of what we could do better, and just everyone keeps
saying how good we are, so I'm like, I don't
know if we can do anything better.

Speaker 1 (01:16:43):
What do you think?

Speaker 2 (01:16:43):
Oh no, no, there is one guy out there that
thinks we can do things better. Just always crapping on us,
always crapping.

Speaker 1 (01:16:53):
Always, he always he gives us a little shameful hate.

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
DMS, Yeah he does well. DMS don't even makes sense.
I'm like, you know, Ninko, like you're trying to make
fun of us because we're not, you know, technically super
smart like you, and your whole paragraph you send to
us makes no sense, no periods, no commas, nothing, I.

Speaker 3 (01:17:14):
Mean, where does he when does he have time to write?
You have three kids?

Speaker 2 (01:17:18):
Lee?

Speaker 3 (01:17:18):
You on Instagram all day. I hit my box and
all of a sudden, I see Nikovic in my goddamn inbox.
I'm like, what the fuck?

Speaker 2 (01:17:25):
I thought he was a family man.

Speaker 1 (01:17:26):
It's eleven thirty at night. Don't you have three kids?

Speaker 3 (01:17:29):
This guy's at a freaking is he walking the dog
at a charity night? Yeah, he's walking the dog just
to tweet at us.

Speaker 2 (01:17:36):
Well, actually, no, I know what it is, Page is
walking him. Yeah, so then he has time because he's
a dog. The owner's not really paying attention to you
when you're on a leash because you know you're you're
on the leash. You're good now.

Speaker 1 (01:17:51):
Instead of giving an o bone, and she gives him
his Twitter.

Speaker 3 (01:17:53):
App Yeah or his Instagram app Here, he could go
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