Dudes on Ray Lewis, Jack Lambert, and James Harrison | Scariest Dudes

In honor of Halloween, this week, Gronk & Jules are getting on some of the NFL's scariest dudes of all time: Ray Lewis, Jack Lambert, and James Harrison. We’re talking what it’s like to get knocked out by Ray Lewis and his love for all things Gladiator. We decide if Jack Lambert is indeed the scariest looking NFL player of all time. We talk about what it’s like to witness James Harrison in the weight room. We wrap up the show by comparing NFL stars to classic horror movie villains.

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Energy, energy, happy be Halloween ladies and gentlemen. Jules, I
don't think that that's scary. So we're really we're really
dumb and dumber.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Oh good thing. It's just like, well, welcome to Dudes
On Dudes. I'm Julian Edelman and I'm rapped Aroundkowski.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Okay, Harry, Harry, qush your name again?

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Lloyd Orr Hi right not Halloween. Listen Dudes on Durds,
the show where your favorite dudes talk about their favorite dudes.
On today's special Halloween episode, we are talking some of
the scariest dudes of all time.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
These guys are intimidating.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
We're talking Ray Lewis. He set the stage for what
Baltimore has come.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Who else are we talking?

Speaker 2 (01:01):
Ken State, Golden Flash, Jack Lambert. What if you were
lined up and he looked at you with his no teeth.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
I'd probably be wide open because I'm gonna run full
freaking speed away from him.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
And fucking James Harrison, who flashes.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
You know, if I hit him hard man, I'm gonna
tell you he's gonna pick me up and throw me
in the next place. So I never wanted the trigger him.
I always just try to get in his way.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
We'll break down their games, we'll share some insider stories
and determine what kind of dude each of these dudes are.
And then we wrap it up by comparing some of
your NFL favorites two iconic horror villains or movie villains.
We're not We're guys. Were dumb and dumber. Why Harry

(01:41):
Harry balls? Let's go.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
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Speaker 2 (02:36):
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Speaker 1 (02:51):
All right, back to the episode A Pizza Julian. Who's
our first scariest dude of all scariest dudes.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
Our first guests that we'll be talking about on the
Halloween edition of Dudes on Dude Scary motherfuckers, I mean
scary guys. We'll start with former teammate of mind on
Inside the NFL Ray Lewis scary soob let's see what
AI has to say about him.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
All Right, we got some dude synopsis here. Scariest Dude
Number one is ray Lewis. Let's see what AI has
to say.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
It's a I gotta say.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Ray Lewis is widely regarded. Ray Lewis is widely regarded
as one of the greatest middle linebackers in NFL history,
known for his intense playing style and leadership on the
field and off the field. He overcame personal challenges and
became a motivational figure, often speaking about discipline and perseverance.

(03:44):
Lewis had significant impact on the Baltimore Ravens, leading them
to two Super Bowl victories and earning the Super Bowl
MVP in two thousand and one.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
Wow Wow, I was twelve.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
Years old in two thousand and one, Jules, how old
were you about?

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Fourteen? Fourteen fifteen.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
Notably, he is the only player in NFL history with
over forty career sacks and thirty interceptions instinct. Additionally, he
was a twelve time Pro bowler and a two time
NFL Defensive Player of the Year. Ray Lewis for you,
ladies and gentlemen, brought to you by AI.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
I think the AI is pretty right. I worked with
Ray as soon as I retired on inside the NFL,
and in those pre production meetings he would speak and
I felt like I wanted to run through a goddamn
brick wall. Every time he would speak. He sounded like
a pastor with the mix of craziness and a mix

(04:44):
of a gladiator quote. Don't Ray, don't think I don't
know where your quotes come from. We went to Rome
together and I figured out that all of Ray's motivational
quotes come from the movie The Gladiator. It was crazy,
He's I remember, ain't him? He knocked me out of game?
First off?

Speaker 1 (05:02):
What game was that? And what year was that he
knocked you out of the game?

Speaker 2 (05:05):
It was Remember when Dion Branch came back for the
first game back?

Speaker 1 (05:09):
So about was it twenty thirteen, your fourth year?

Speaker 2 (05:12):
This year? This was like two thousand and twelve, eleven
or twelve.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
Yeah, it was two. Branch came back on the left
on the team eleven. Yes, yes, two thousand times.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
My rookie year.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
Randy Moss was traded after the fourth game of the season,
and then then we traded for We traded back for
Dian Branch right that year, So it was my rookie year.
It was your rookie year, Yes, twenty ten, the same
season that Randy Moss got traded.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
Yeah, and he hit me on under in the red area,
and I remember hello, Di Nada like picking me up
and saying, hey, buddy, your your your sidelines that way.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
That was that was Atchillette Stadium, Agelette, Yes, and it
was twenty and ten.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
Ten it was he lit me up. And then the
year before, this is my second year in the league.
Year before, in the playoffs, he scored and I on
a scramble in the red area, Tom darted it to me.
I caught it and I got a touchdown, and Ray
was right behind me, and he needed me so hard
in my left butt cheek that like I got a

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crazy hematoma and I looked like I had j low
booty one, like my butt was just I had one
big butt. It was so fucking crazy. If we would
have we got smoked that game, but I wouldn't have
been able to play the next week because I had
like internal bleeding. It was fucking nuts. So that dude
has scared the shit out of me. What do you
think about? First off, A, I h hit it on point.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
But they didn't, you know, talk about all his characteristics
that he brings to the table as well. Yes, a
great motivational speaker, great player, you know, all the accolades,
two time Super Bowl champion, whatever, twelve time pro bowler,
But they didn't talk about the characteristics that makes him
himself vicious out in the field, vicious, absolutely vicious. Intimidating

(07:00):
one hundred percent. I would put my hand down and
I was already scared of Ray Lewis when he was
lined up in front of me. I was when when
you're scared of a player, you're kind of already beat
as well. Just that's how intimidating he was. Just a
nature of just the way he carried himself and energy
that he brought to the table. You did not want
to mess with Ray Lewis, no doubt, no ants, ifs

(07:24):
or butts about that.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
Now.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
He was not just scary, but he was also like
one of the smartest football players. You fucking played very
intellectual it like we I remember we'd be in a
three by one, like a Trip's formation, and he'd be
sitting there calling out like I watched his hook, watch
his hook like, he'd be calling our plays and he
would I remember talking to him when we worked together,

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and he would study all of our our TV copies
so he could hear Tom's signals, he could hear all
the line front signals. So anytime we would play the
Ravens with Ray, we kind of knew that he knew everything.
We had change everything because he was such a smart,
hard working guy that did anything it took to fucking
go out and win a game. If that meant sitting
watching five hours of all the TV copies to just

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to get one little signal from something, That's what ray
Lewis was doing. And he was just he was fucking
Like we look at middle linebackers now, middle linebackers are
two hundred and twenty five, two hundred and thirty pounds.
Ray Lewis was sidelined the sideline two fifty two fifty
doing war dances before the game, getting the whole city

(08:31):
of Baltimore some light. I mean, he was their first
first pick of that franchise. Like he set the stage
for what Baltimore has become, you know, Like what he
said in his things known for defense, tough team. You
know it's carried out throughout. You know, Harball Harbor inherited him,

(08:51):
rose it to what it is now. But there are
tough fucking team. And ray Lewis was like the wardaddy
of the war daddies.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
And he was the definition of a linebacker in the
NFL in the decade of the two thousand era, No
doubt about that. Big, strong, intimidating, fast, took no shit
at all.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
He was the defensive captain.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
He was the guy in the huddle that got everyone,
you know, in the right spots where they needed to be.
He was the one that was calling every single defensive player.
He was the absolute definition of a Mike linebacker, of
a middle linebacker. Mike linebacker is just a name for
the middle linebacker for all you people out there, So
Mike linebacker, middle linebacker, same exact thing, MLB. But he

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was the definition. He was the standard of strength, of speed,
of agility of a middle linebacker. And how giveness and
how instinctiveness intellectual, just how smart he was the ability
to know what plays were being called and how to
fill a gap as well.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
That I'm mother effort.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
That mother effort knew how to fill a gap and
blow a gap up better than any linebacker in the
history of the game. And he set the example to
all young guys, all players, all defensive players in high
scoring college on how to play the linebacker position in
the game of football. There's no doubt about that. And
that was mean aggressive.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
What else is there? Julian fucking instinctive? Yes, just just
all of it. And once again I got to experience
and I got to be on a team, you know,
with Ray and the way he motivated guys, like his
stories and like how he would you have to Like
he told me once we're doing inside the NFL, he goes,
you got to win the crowd to win your freedom.

(10:38):
I'm like, Ray, we're talking about football. We're not in
a goddamn We're not at the Colisseum right now, Okay, Like.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
I want to run through the wall, but we're not
hitting nobody.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Yes, he would. He would say something and I couldn't
understand anything, but I got the point. Like he would
say something, I'm.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
Like, fuck, yeah, I don't.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Let's let's have the best fucking show. Let's have a show, right,
Like That's how Ray was, you know. And we we
uh we went and did this convention over in Croatia together,
and so I was like, great, let's you want to
go to Rome after with me? And so me and
Ray went to Rome and to watch him go. We

(11:23):
went to the coliseum for a day and it was
like watching a kid walk into a candy shop. When
he saw that Colisseum, like you could tell that it
was like ingrained in them. He was like, this is
where the men that I am used to perform in
the day of age of them. He said something like

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that to me.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
I'm like race in one of his past lives. I
bet you he wasn't glad the coliseum.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Percent he I saw he he literally had a single
tear when he walked and he saw just how grand
and old and how he was. You could see him
using his imagination for all the freaking fans and stuff
and guys ripping each other's goddamn heads off, and it
like he loved it.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
Wait a second, do you think he was one of
the gladiators back in the day or was he one
of those lions?

Speaker 2 (12:22):
No, he was, he was, he was he both.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
He he was lying heart, lying heart, but a gladiator.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
Yeah, Lionhart, lionheart like band damn. Can't disagree with that.
Have you ever been covered by him? I've been covered
by him a few times.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
I mean, obviously his game was stopping the run, but
he was very smart in the zone coverage as well.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
Hell of picks, Yes, a lot of picks.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
I mean what he has? What thirty interceptions and over
fifty sacks? What was that?

Speaker 2 (12:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (12:51):
The only person ever do it, the only one to
ever do it. And uh, you know He's just very
athletic for his size too. Man, his arms are just massive.
It just looks like a guy out of like a
magazine cover, you know, just straight off a magazine, from
front page cover, right off the stands, and just put
on the football field.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
Gladiator.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
He was a definition of what a guy and Madden
looks like. You know, when you're playing the game, Matten,
you know you just got taken right out of the
video game and put right on the field.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
But I got to clear up a little bit with
ray Lewis.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
I mean the guy, you know, back end of his
career when we were facing him, So we didn't really
get the true ray Lewis, just like all of us
in the NFL. Yeah, he definitely let you up still,
but when you're in your prime prime, you're moving people,
no matter what the situation is, you're moving people. You're
blowing up the holes all that.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
So we didn't. We didn't.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
I never got like leveled by ray Lewis. I definitely
felt his power. But here's a situation. I was running.
This thing goes viral all over Instagram all the time
where it's a clip of me running over ray Lewis.
But let me get this clear out there. I didn't
really like technically run over ray Lewis. I mean I
did the clip, and people just take it out of

(14:02):
context because you know, on the film directly like with
you know, you just take that three seconds of a
clip and I am running over ray Lewis. But here's
the deal. Here's the situation. It was a passing play
and I was on a route. He was dropping back
in the coverage, and I was debating. I had an

(14:23):
incut twelve yard incut, and I was debating because he
was dropping back, you know, doing his thing, trying to
making it hard on myself because you know, you know,
he's very smart of a player, knows how to drop
back and get you confused of where he's going, so
then it kind of throws you off your route. So
I'm like, do I go outside of him because he's
dropping out of my out of my zone, out out
of the area where I got to run the twelve

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yard incut? Or is he going inside and I should
go inside? Or should I go outside of him? You know,
I'm trying to say to it. So I'm debating, and
I'm kind of stiff this game. You know, I'm just
running straight, and I'm debating sh ILL go out, should
go in?

Speaker 2 (14:57):
Sh I go out? Should I go in?

Speaker 1 (14:58):
And I'm running full speed at him baby, and then boom,
I just clashed right into him. So he wasn't really
paying attention to me, and he was looking back at
the quarterback. But when I clashed right into him on
the passing route, he went flying backwards and I ran
him over. And then I like jumped up real quick
and acted like I was wide open, so like I
didn't really run him over. No, I didn't get a

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catch either, So it was great coverage by him, actually, like.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
To the t if you ask me.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
But it's a clip where I'm like, no, it's like
just taking off context. I will tell you when I.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
Ran that sounds scary of a guy. He is is
where Rob over here ran his ass over. Okay, I
don't want to hear it right he got ran over.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
No, I didn't run him in coverage, and I just
ran my route through him.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
He's trying to justify running him over. And he did
not make Ray mad at him.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
I don't want Ray mad at me. I can tell
you that right now. But I was just running my
route and it went through him, and he was you know,
he was on his on his heels, backing up, back
pedaling and using his big go fly. Yeah, he did
go flying, but it was not like a run play
or anything. If that was run playing, I blocked him
like that, Well, then that's off to me. I would
still go running. I would still run to the other

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sideline because I'd still be scared of ray Lewis. But
I didn't technically run them over.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
It was just a little mishap.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
And Jules I got a question when he did that,
you know, the war dance running out of the tunnel,
the Baltimore fans going crazy. Did you ever watch one
of those war dances every time? Were you like looking
the other way, like coach no, no, Belichick, I'm not
I'm not watching it.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Why are you saying that, because that's what Bill used
to saying.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
Yeah, don't be paying attention to what they're doing. Just
worry about what you're doing. But ray Lewis is war dance.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
You had a peep, dude, that's that's a peak dude.
You had to coach Belichick, who had the Ravens weekend,
even though he's be like, look, we're gonna be going
to Baltimore. You're gonna have Ray doing his goddamn fucking
war dance. Like, just get your heads right, get your
heads right for the game. We're all. You know, he's

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gonna be doing that war dance. You know he's referenced
the war dance. Wait, his war dance is called the
squirrel dance. Ain't no squirrel doing that?

Speaker 1 (17:04):
Yeah, because Jewels, you're a squirrel, You ain't doing those
type of dances. I never heard anyone even call.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
It nice war dance dance. It was started by his
friends in his hometown. They named it the squirrel Dance
because it had the whole town jumping. I get it now,
I know. But the squirrel dance, you're the squirrel. Yeah,
And I don't see a squirrel looking that scary.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
Oh, squirrels are furry and cute, kin's and ugly.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
No, Ray looks like he wants to bite your face
off and do a war dance on your face after
it's been bit off.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
What about his visor?

Speaker 2 (17:40):
Overall?

Speaker 1 (17:41):
Ray Lewis is or I mean the visor, what the
you know, the little bands on his arms, all that.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Just a scary player overall, scary in that purple and
black that's just a mean looking team. It is all right,
all right, time, let's determine what kind of duty is.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
All right ray Lewis? What kind of dude is ray Lewis?
Is he a freak? Of course, he's a freak. I
mean he definitely has freak of nature in him. I
mean he's gigantic. He's a definitions I mean of a
middle linebacker.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
He's a whizz as well. He was so innovative for
the sideline the sideline quarterback of the defense type linebacker.
I don't you know, I could be recency biased, but
this is what we grew up on. He's a dude's
dude as well.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
I mean, positive attitude, the motivational speaking, getting everyone going,
bringing everyone together. I mean he's special, man. That's special.
Just to have that, you know, in life, is to
just be able to motivate people and bring people together.
And on top of it, just being that phenomenal of
a football player. Man, that's what really made him special.
He had so many great characteristics that he brought to

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a team, not just being a good player.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
I think he's a dog. He's relentless, he's motivated, he's
physically and mentally tough dude tourist Tricep came back in
a fucking like four weeks for the game, Like he
doesn't care if he has something hanging on by a thread,
if it's a playoff game, or if it's an AFC
North Divisional game, or if it's a game against US.

(19:08):
You knew Ray Lewis was gonna be out there doing
his goddamn war dance before the game, getting the whole
fucking crowd going crazy. You know that's gonna be what
Ray does. And he's a fucking dog. He's a dog.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
He is a dog. At anytime you're a dog, you
get the job done. And he got the job done
every single time he hit the field.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
Let's go to our next game.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
I'm never messing with Ray.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
Hell no, I'm gonna be best friends with him, and
he would love the shit out of you, raising the
best teammate ever. We'll be right back after this quick break.
Who's our next Roberto? Our next?

Speaker 1 (19:48):
Scary is from one of the scariest eras of football,
where they didn't care if they were injured. No, they
didn't have doctors to treat their broken ankles, zero broken legs.
They just threw him back out there. This was the
scariest times in the NFL. Concussions didn't matter. That means
if you had stars, it meant that you were extra tough.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
And this guy is.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
In that era and he was one of the scariest
ones in that scary and I'm getting scared, dude, look
scary scary? Who got he looks like Halloween? We got
Jack Lambert Ladies O MG played for the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
Jack Harold Lambert, Jack Lambert, Golden Flash. What's a I
gotta say about Old Jack?

Speaker 1 (20:39):
Start the clock now right, hit that clock, Jack Lambert.
Jack Lambert was an intimidating and fierce linebacker, known for
his aggressive playing style and toothless snarl.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
No teeth.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
Off the field, he was a private person who preferred
a quiet life, often retreating to his farm. Lambert had
a profound impact on the Pittsburgh Steelers, leading them to
four Super Bowl victories in.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
The nineteen seventies.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
With our guy. Terry Bradshaw the original TB twelve Terry,
Oh good Old Terry Bradshaw, Uncle Terry. He was a
nine time Pro bowler and an eight time All Pro,
earning the NFL Defensive Player of the Year award in
nineteen seventy six. Notably, he recorded twenty eight career interceptions

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and was a key figure in the Steelers dominant defense.
You want to know what I loved about Jack Lambert,
it was he wasn't the traditional size of a linebacker,
especially back in the heyday. He was, once again a
guy from Kent State University. Was he drafted into the NFL.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
Yeah, he was drafted fourth rounder.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
I know that he had, you know, ninety ideals. He
didn't have the ideal side going into the NFL as well.
I think he was six y four, about two hundred
and two hundred and ten pounds coming out of Kent State,
and they wanted to put some back on him, so
he didn't really play, you know, at the size of
all these other linebackers and in the NFL at the time,

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I think he played about at like what two.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
Twenty two thirty, so six ' four.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
A linebacker at six ' four, that's kind of unheard of.
Usually they're shorter, more stocker. It can fill the hole,
can take on a lineman, can take on a full back,
can go side to side with the agilities. But this guy,
now he was different, but you know, that kind of
was an advantage for him. You know, watching tape on him,
I feel like he could see over the lineman because
he was six 'y four, he could see what was

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developing in the backfield. And when you can have that
type of advantage and you can see what's going on
in the backfield, you can see that short running back,
where he's going, where he's angling. That's an advantage in
jack Lambert use that on the defensive side of the ball,
making tackles. It was just ridiculous watching him play.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
What if you were lined up tight end in Jackson,
middle linebacker right here, and he looked at you and
with his no teeth he said, hey, gronk, I'm gonna
eat your lunch. What would you do.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
I'd probably be wide open because I'm gonna run full
freaking speed away from him.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
I'm running full speed.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
But at the same time, those are the guys that
are hired to get open verse because I'm six six.
That's my advantage is my height, Yeah, and my size,
but when you're six four and yeah, he was smaller
than everyone.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
But dude, long and lanky, yeah, long and lanky.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
But he hadn't like hit stick like it's kind of
like like a type of strength that is kind of
not taught. That like some some type of strength where
you don't go in the weight room to get that
leverage strength. Yes, he's sixty strength, just you know, skinnier,
more athletic than these other linebackers and other players in
the NFL. But he had that you know, that pop.

(23:51):
He had a pop in him. When you have that
pop in that toughness, I mean, it doesn't matter what
size you are. You can knock down anyone, even if
they're fifty pounds bigger than you.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
He's also like an intimidation factor. You've seen in the
Super Bowl against the Cowboys where the guy the kicker
missed the fucking kick on the Steelers and and the
cowboy guy was heckling him and fucking Jack Lambert grabbed
him by the back of his thing and threw his
ash down. Say boy, shut the fuck up like that,
he's crazy. I think the ref was right there was

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too scared to throw dan penalty. Like that's how scary
of a guy he was. I mean, it's he's just
he's not like a big guy.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
He had a wide receiver belt, he had long you
know skinny legs, like.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
Distinct fuck yes, he I mean you throw on his highlights. Yeah,
he would blow up the the one yard or he'd
blow up the goal line player the short yardage play.
But you saw him drop and he would always make
these crazy. He had a lot of interceptions too. I
think like he had a bunch. Grew up a Browns fan,

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played for the Steelers.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
Big hitter, he was the rash talker that backed it up.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
Probably one of the toughest guys on one of the
toughest so called defenses of all time, that Steel Curtain.
You had me and Joe Green, you had all these
jack ham and then you have fucking Lambert over there
who and this time these guys are scared of him.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
This guy had no front teeth, no front hockey. He
was labeled as the scariest looking player in the NFL.
On top of being that scary on the field, he's
also double double whammy.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
What about his nicknames now, Jack Jack Splatt, Captain Jack,
Dracula cleats that's actually the teeth. He kind of looks
like a jack o lantern. He kind of looks like
an ejaculator.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
He does, you know in some pictures, some way, and
then that look at the helmet that he's wearing, the mask,
he with the bar, he.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
Had the bar right the neck roll he always you
saw him with the pat in nineteen seventies, freaking uh
hand and arm pads. You just see a guy like
him giving a freaking clothesline to a quarterback and like
spitting on him afterwards. Like that's the kind of guy
Jack Lambert was. He he's what did he say? JT. Thomas?

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Yet he's so mean, he hates himself. You gotta play
like that.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
What I love about Jack Lambert too is that he
never he had a quote before it was something along
the line of that. He just never used football as
a popularity contest. You know, he looked at it as
it was his job fucking And you gotta appreciate those guys.
You love those guys in the locker room because they
were all business and Jack was business at all times,
and he didn't care about you know who was watching,

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you know how popular he was. He cared about getting
the job fucking done, and that's what he did.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
Who's the modern day Jack Lambert?

Speaker 1 (26:43):
And that's a tough question because there's really no linebackers
that are six ' four in the NFL middles Oh no, especially.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
It was probably would have been side linebackers. It would
have been like Erlacker back in the day. Oh yeah,
Lacker was like a safety, yes, yeah, turned into.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
A safe, a good lamback right there. Currently, I'm not
really sure if anyone really compares to Jack Lamb different game.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
He also, like I went to Kent and I didn't
even hear any heat stories about him. Really like he was.
He's kind of like an off the radar type guy
I heard. I heard he's like in some country town,
probably in Ohio, on his farm. I think he's got
bomb shelters or anything. If anyone in the Jack Lambert
camp here's this, can we get an update on him.

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We would love to. As a former Flash and a
guy that went to the same university as him, that
likes him, we want to know if he's okay.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
I think he is okay. Like I said, like he
just cared about doing his job. He didn't care about
the popularity, and he's kind of like that. When was
the last time he was seeing in the football world.
I think it was when the original Steelers stadium closed
down before they were going to build their the new
one three or earlier one? Yeah, what was the three

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River stadium? Right then he go to that last game
or something? Did he was that the last time he
was seeing Yeah, that was two thousand, was the last
time he was seen.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Twenty four years ago. I wonder what he thinks about
all this technology. He looks like a guy for fact,
that will fucking if you're on his phone. If you're
on a phone around him, I think he might shoot
the phone. Yeah, he's still using a pager. No, I
don't even think he has a pager. I think he's
got landline. Just a pager. He's got landline, bro. He's

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got cord still that with like a thirty foot cord.
So he could take a goddamn call away from his
wife like two rooms down and ask to shut the
door and use it and put the chord under the
door gap so he could have some some privacy. That's
the kind of guy.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
He's a scary as the kind of guy he is. Like,
I got I got a question, Would you ever go
off the grid? Would I ever go off the grid?
Jack Lambert hasn't been seen for twenty four years?

Speaker 2 (28:59):
Actually I would if I had enough means to go
off the grid. I would love to go off the grid.
You got plenty of means, Nah, I got kid. You can't, Like,
you can't go off grid if you have a kid.
Like if it was just me and Rock, I go
off of the dusty trail.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
But I can't just a deserted island. I don't know
if any amounts of food and water.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
Some little town in Mexico, would you do it?

Speaker 1 (29:21):
Would you go off the grid?

Speaker 2 (29:23):
Can you see yourself going off the grid? I would
love to go if like I said, like that, huh, we.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
Got dudes on dudes?

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (29:30):
Why would you go off the grid on me?

Speaker 2 (29:34):
Wouldn't it be cool to have my tie in like
a little umbrella?

Speaker 1 (29:37):
Can we just do dudes on dudes off the grid?

Speaker 2 (29:39):
Well, we wouldn't be off.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
The grid then, would be real dudes on dudes? How
just you and I desert dude?

Speaker 2 (29:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (29:51):
No.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
How do you think he playing today's football? I think
he'd pretty good.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
Yeah, he'd be really good, especially you know, because it
seemed like he was very up as well. Cover Yeah,
cover pretty well. So the way that you know we're
throwing the football now in this era, I feel like
he's a guy that can drop back and middle of
the field, and especially in zone coverages. I think he
would have a couple of interceptions a year, no doubt
about that. And uh, just his mentality that he brings
in the run game. I feel like some defenses are

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missing that type of mentality too, like those guys that
play will, yeah, the willing to go in and just
take a full back, you know, playing all on one,
heads up, all downs, you know, and just being able
to just you know, give up your body, sacrifice yourself.
So those players, Ray Lewis obviously, Jack Lambert another one

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of those. So what about John Elway? Remember when John
Elway faced Jack Lambert. Yeah, didn't even what happened.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
He said, just let me out of here. I'll be
an accountant.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
Yeah, you want to know why. You want to know
what else happened? He did say that after the game,
But you want to know what else happened?

Speaker 2 (30:51):
What happened?

Speaker 1 (30:52):
He lined up under the right guard. That's how scared
he was.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
He was that scared and nervous.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
I mean, that was a fricking one on the right guard.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
What year was that? Imagine that eighty three? So Lambert
was still there. Lambert played what twelve years. This was
a young John Elway probably young got.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
A stand for eight fourteen yards that game one free
We're talking to John Alway one for eight fourteen yards
when he says the scariest defender.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
The steel curtain. It wasn't just hear him. He had
to steal Dean, Joe green Ham, ELC. Greenwood, all those boys,
I mean, and he was the fucking flag carrier for
that scary ass defense time. What kind of dude is
Jack Lambert?

Speaker 1 (31:41):
Jack Lambert a stud? He was a stud, but not
Kent State, not Ken.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Not when you're that game starts out of Kent stand when.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
You're that scary, you're technically not a stud.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
He's got he's got that athleticism, he's got the football IQ.
But he he he always had the is he too
in his category? So that takes him out of the
stud and.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
Then that takes him out of out of the freak
category as well.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
Yeah, but he could be a freak because he's like
a regular lanky dude that played like he was two
eighty and he had a hit stick. He had a
hit stick and he had no teeth. They had no teeth.
He could be a whiz because he was so fucking intelligent.
You know, he he was calling out plays and that
was I was watching all his you could tell he

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knew the game better than a lot of the other
guys he was playing against was knowing. Was he a
dude's dude? I probably don't know. I heard a snake
story where he almost killed a guy from putting a
fake snake in his room. Like, I don't think he's
a dude's dude. He's not a guy that you want
to fuck with or pull a prank on. He might

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and kill you.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
He looks like he writes manifestos.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
Yes, he's got a list. Yeah, he's got a list.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
Yeah, So no, don't don't pull pranks on him.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
You know what, I think he's a dog. He's just
a dog. He has a dog. You know, he's he's relentless,
he's motivated, he's physically and mentally tough. Has exceeded everything
that everyone thought he couldn't do at the highest level.
Jack Lambert is a dude of a dog.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
And dogs a dude don't care about getting the credit. No,
they just want to feel the love, and they just
want to do their job. And when they do their job,
they feel the love.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
That's it. That's that was poetic. That was fucking poetic.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
Rob. That's why I have a dog.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
You have a dog.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
Do not care about his popularity. He just cares about
doing what he needs to do to protect myself, protect Camille,
and protect the house. And then he feels like he's
accomplished and then he snuggles into me and we share love.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
That's just dogs loving dogs. He's a dog. Stamp it dog.
All right, let's get into our our last Halloween edition
of New Tonguans guy that we are going to talk about.

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You know what. I'm looking at this and it's pretty
gnarly that every one of the scariest guys that we're
going over is from the AFC. Fucking North. Another Kent
State golden Flash. Another man that scares the living ship

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out of you. He sure does. His name is Debo,
but his birth name is James Harrison.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
James Henry Harrison Jr.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
Hank. I will not call him that to his face.
He'll probably beat my face. I've seen him doing that
volleyball ship. What is up? What's you?

Speaker 1 (34:55):
And A?

Speaker 2 (34:55):
I asked to say, alright, AI for James Hank, I
was probably too scared anything. Second, Holy smokes.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
Oh that's blank. AI was scared.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
AI is fucking scared. I'm scared.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
Did not want to get it wrong.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
Start the clock now now.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
James Harrison. James Harrison was a tenitious and a hard
hitting linebacker. Tenacious, thank you, Jues, got you. I'm Harry.
You know I didn't read any books growing up. Okay,
you know? And a hard hitting linebacker now for his
relentless work ethic and physical style of play off the field,
he was dedicated and resilient, overcoming numerous setbacks to achieve success.

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Harrison had a significant impact on the Pittsburgh Steeers on
the Pittsburgh Steelers, helping them win two Super Bowls and
earning the NFL Defensive Player of the Year award in
two thousand and eight.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
Jesus.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
Notably, He's set a then Steelers single season record with
sixteen sacks in two thousand and eight and is the
only undrafted player to win Defensive Player of the Year award.
He was also a five time Pro Bowler and twice
named the Steelers MVP.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
He should have been a Super Bowl MVP.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
Yeah, but Santonio Holmes tapping catch and the game. They
should give out like two MVP's award, a defensive MVP
if deserved, and then an MVP.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
Award as well, or an MVP award.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
And if it was a defensive guy, then if someone
played on the offensive side, you know, on the offense
side of the ball, very well, they should also have
the offensive MVP. You know what I mean, You know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
Yeah, they can get they can get a better sponsorship
group out of the NFL too. If they did that,
you could have you know, Chevy for you know, the
offense and forward for the defense. We're not business guys, debo.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
Hey Lloyd, you're smarter than I thought.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
Harry, your hands are freezing. James Harrison absolute ski motherfucker.
Like he's look at him. You look at his pictures,
it's like one degree outside. He's got his shirt off
and his baggy ass sweats doing a pregame warm up,
looking like he wants to just I fucking kill every

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single person on the other side of the team. Like
we played against him, and he's got a notion and
it's so fucking crazy that he didn't get drafted because
he's about six feet tall, but he's also six feet wide.
This guy is a fucking fridge his I've never his

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arms are literally like thirty inches big. I remember he
came and played with us in seventeen. It literally when
he would walk in the locker room, it felt like
the scene in Friday when Debo would roll. Everyone will
put their chains away, and he was like a nice guy,
but he just had that scary great guy scary are

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about him. We're like, no, hey, oh shit, what's up.
No one wanted to joke with him because he didn't
know if he was going to take it or if
he could be joked with. But he was honestly a
great teammate for that one year, and he's made so
many incredible fucking plays in his career, Like it's insane.
Have you seen him do the shot put Nah, I've
never seen him. I guess he's a huge fucking shotputter,

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Like he's a fuck. I love him. I absolutely loved him.
I remember when he played that game in two thousand
and eight. I was at Kent State the super Bowl
where he had that big hundred yard run in the
Super Bowl. I was just so excited to see a
guy like him, you know, dominating the NFL from where
I came from. I mean it was It's crazy. Was

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Prime's James Harrison faster than you? Yes? Was he? Yes?
I'm not going to say he wasn't.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
I had to think about that and I was like, wait,
if I am faster than him, I should not say
I was faster. That's like me saying I'm stronger than
him as well, which obviously I am not stronger than
James Harrison. I don't think anyone is. But I'm going
to talk a little football, you know, a little technician
on the football field here. I mean in the blocking
aspect of the game and who you're going versus, what

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type of guy you're going verse, what type of player
you're going verse? Who you're going verse, because in the NFL,
you scout the player you're going verse, You scot him,
You see what type of player they are, You see
how they react to you know, the type of blocks
that they're receiving and all that good stuff. And what
size he is, what height the defender is that you're
going verse, You get in his chest, you throw your shoulder.

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There's so many different techniques depending on who you're going verse.
And I love blocking a guy that's like six '
five my height, who stands up, because then I can
get in his chest driving backwards, and a guy that
doesn't have that mean look, that mean attitude, and a
guy that's not going to get pissed off because I
came flying off the ball and absolutely drilled him and

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drove him back five yards and embarrass him. That was
the last thing I was trying to do with James Harrison.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
What were you trying to do with James?

Speaker 1 (40:05):
First off, with James, I knew I couldn't get into
his chest. The guy is like a bowling ball, like
you know, that twenty eight pound bowling ball that everyone
wants to throw down the freaking lane and just trying
to knock down all the pins and like you kind
of like do a granny style and so heavy you
blow out your back. Well, those are the hardest guys
to block in the NFL, especially at my size six

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foot six. You know, it's hard for me to get low.
It's hard for me to move that type of guy
because they have so much leverage built in paid level.
Yes exactly, that's what he has. And with a guy
like that and how scary and intimidating he was, and
I seen it on film. You do not want to
piss James Harrison on.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
Why what did you see on fil? Yes?

Speaker 1 (40:44):
What do you see on film? What do you mean?
What do you see on film? I seen him take defenders,
offensive linemen, toss him. I seen him absolutely level defenders
and put him out of the game with a concussion.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
Dude, he knocked out Josh Crabs, one of his teammates
from college.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
Literally, So therefore, when I'm blocking him, it's a guy
that you just kind of want to get in his way.
I'm not going to come off the ball and crush
his skull. I'm not trying to do that because if
I piss him off, you know, if I hit him
hard and I trigger him, man, I'm gonna tell you
he's gonna pick me up and throw me the next place.
So I never wanted to trigger him. I always just
try to get in his way, you know, with my shoulder,
with my hands. So then when the running back came

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around and you try to make a play, you know,
just get in his way again, you know, so.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
He can't feel his strength.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
I could feel his strength because then if I started
going strength for strength, that's when I lose, no doubt,
about it. That's when I lose the block versus a
guy like that and leverage. So every time I just
tried to just kind of play paddy kick, you know,
try to let him absorb me. So if I did
fly off the ball, he would fly off the ball too.
Then I would go backwards and he would have that
separation pass. So I just try to stick on him

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like a like a sponge, you know, and just always
didn't let him out of my rear view mirror, just
always staying in front of him, never trying to piss
him off, never trying to give him a cheap shot.
That was the way I blocked James Harrison, and it
was a whole different style when you go versus a
player like him.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
That's crazy. See we're here talking about like Rob's Rob
used to block the biggest battest to on the defensive line.
That's fucking nuts, you know. See it's rarely seen, you know,
a matchup with the tight end and the nine technique
fucking d end or what you know, the outside linebacker
that's playing down like that doesn't that's usually at the

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point of attack a lot of times, is it. You
watch that film?

Speaker 1 (42:28):
Yeah, you always want to get the tackle on those guys.
But when you have a tight end in that situation
that's willing to do it, willing to get there, that's
what expands your offense. That's what expands the run game.
That's what expands the play action game as well. And
I kind of use that to my advantage, and that's
actually what helped me get open plenty of time on
the play actions when the linebackers step up because they thought,
you know, I'm coming out the black. But James Harrison

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was a terrifying pocket pressure player. He got his shoulder like, yeah,
he would have that shoulder dip and he would just
get right by to off of the tackle, even though
the offensive tackles twice his size, kind of like it
looks like twice his hype, but he would get right
underneath him, and he was so strong. He would just
rip through right through his arm and then get to
the quarterback. And he was quick enough to take kind

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of an outside angle. Run the hump, yeah, run the hump,
and then bolt right to the court.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
Also would have a great change up where he would
just use his strength. He get right up in that
chest of that guy who's about eight inches taller than
him and push his ass right back into the pocket
and blow up the quarterback.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
And that's the exact leverage I was talking about. And
that's why then go toe to toe and I'm right
off the line because he would get that leverage and
he push me back. So I would just try to
stay on him and not let him get that force
to you know, to be able to push me back.
So just being a smart player.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
Have you seen his workout videos.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
His workout videos are freaking ridiculous. He has like eight
forty fives on each side when he's freaking benching like
five hundred, like fifty five pounds.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
You see it does it's just ridiculous. His conditioning, he
gets like a thirty pound or a forty pound medicine
ball and he plays volleyball with it where you have
to catch it in the house, saying that that that's hard.
People don't realize that's hard. That's heavyweight. And he does
it for a long round. Like it's so fun to
watch his workouts because he does like some world's strongest

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man shit all the time, or like you have like
a boulder he's pushing or he's fucking pulling a goddamn
car or throwing fucking rocks that are like nine hundred pounds.
Like he's just a he's a cool dude man. And
the one thing about it, the one thing would you agree,
does his voice not match his body?

Speaker 1 (44:36):
I think it does match it.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
It does because I don't think it's like a low
scary voice.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
It's not as low as you expect.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
Yeah, so I don't think it like you would think
with that guy. He's like, are you doing you?

Speaker 1 (44:46):
Yeah, you're expecting that low. Now it's kind of it's
not high though.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
No, it's not high. It's kind of a James. I'm
not saying you have a high, but which is kind of.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
Good because imagine if it was that low, it would
be like even scarier.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
Ye yeah, Like I remember, remember he remember he gave it.
I got one of his shirts. Remember he had the
Deebo shirt in the locker room. I still have the
Debo's shirt somewhere here.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
He's he's like he can lift like whatever, six hundred pounds.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
Ben squat that lift.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
But what I love about him is that he always
posts his regime of you know, recovering, of how he
recovers off of those lists, how he was recovering in
the NFL, and he would put like three hundred and
fifty acupuncture needles and every day, like every other day,
and he posts about it like you gotta be a freak,

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You gotta be intense in order to get three hundred
and fifty needles hoped inside of your muscle tissue and
just take it like an absolute champ. Like that just
shows he That just shows like he's dedicated, like he's
doing whatever it takes to be at that level that
he needs to be at.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
Who is the mount Rushmore of the strongest guys we
played with, you think.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
I would say Sebastian Volmer left tackle was Vince will Fork.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
He was super strong, strong.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
He didn't really have to even like work out that much.
He would just walk in the weight room and toss
up like five hundred pounds in the bench.

Speaker 2 (46:12):
Yeah, Marcus Cannon was a strong guy.

Speaker 1 (46:15):
I saw the squatting world.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
I never I remember. Canon would be squatting and there'd
be fifteen fucking forty five and the thing would be bouncing.
I swear I think he had like twelve forty five's
on each side, remember that, and the bar would be
it'd be bouncing like it was a fucking cute tip
with fucking rocks on it, and she's like.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
It was really that was good inmitation right there.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
And then Brandon Bolden for pound for pound. Bolden didn't
even work out. He was like, but he pound for
pound when we do all those.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
Like gosh, I wasn't saying like that was a bad thing,
that work out. He didn't need to work out. And
I'm like, dude, how are you so strong and ripped?
He's like, yo, I carry my kids around and I'm like,
I'm like, I gotta start having kids. I gotta start
having kids. And I still haven't started. And this is
eight years later. What I would still be playing if
I had tend kids.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
He would always do those Remember we'd always have to
do those explosion recordings for some certain things like the
Kaiser's and he would always be the absolute He blow
people out by a thousand points because he was just
so explosive strong. I'd say that's probably our Mount Rushmore. Yes,
his last Kent State game, you know, he sacked five

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times Miami of Ohio. Oh, big Ben, his fucking teammate.
No one's off limits, no one is off limits. We
saw what he did to Josh Cribs when he was
in a Browns uniform. We saw what he did to
Ben Roethlisberger when he was in a Miami with Ohio uniform.
Like he is fucking Freddy Krueger. Bro This is how

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I mean, this is the perfect guy to have on
the goddamn Halloween episode.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
You know, yeah, we're talking about his you know, defensive
skill set and all that, but what about every time
he had an interception he always almost like brought that
ball back to the house. Obviously with one of the
biggest Super Bowl plays in history of the one hundred
yard return versus Arizona Cardinos.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
And if they scored right on that drive, they.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
Were saying the game was gonna be over going into
half because the Cardinos had that big of a manager
and that much momentum going in. But he saved the
Steelers that game with that interception to the house. It
looked like he was about to be tackled eight different times,
and he just kept going and kept going and kept going.
He's kind of like a full back mixed with a

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running back when he's running the ball. Yes, exactly like him.
He's Mike alstart of the defensive side of the ball.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
Did he hear that he's he's going to be fighting
o Jo Cinko?

Speaker 1 (48:44):
Yeah, o Jo Cinko. First, James Harrison, what are you thinking?

Speaker 2 (48:50):
O Jo Sinko? What the Ojo Bodge are you thinking?
I'll tell you right now. O Jo Cinko's got some ball.
He does have some ball. He raced a horse. He's
fought a couple of times.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
Yeah, I mean he's lost all the fights, so has he? Yeah,
he lost the fight he.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
Bought one time. To be said about a man that
loses a fight and keeps coming back, keeps coming back.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
Oh, Joe Senko, don't back down.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
He does it now?

Speaker 1 (49:15):
He doesn't both what he thinking? What is he thinking?

Speaker 2 (49:18):
I don't know. Is it it's UFC right, it's I'm
in May style? Yeah, I mean the only way you'd
have to fight James Harrison is if you go box him.
If he couldn't bring you down.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
Oh, Joe Sinko is six to one, one hundred and
ninety pounds about I would say.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
He's got it. He's probably like, yeah, he lost.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
A Brian Maxwell in a boxing match. Yeah, it wasn't.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
I'm not saying he probably beat the ship out of me.
But I'm not fucking James Harrison. James Harrison is a
scary man. Should we go? We should go?

Speaker 1 (49:48):
I gotta I got a what if scenario? Do you
think we can beat James Harrison if we tag team.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
Versus you mean, if we tag team James Harrison? No, No,
like you and I versus James Harrison. Uh, I don't. Honestly,
I really don't know. And I can consider myself a
tough guy, but and I consider you a large tough
human as well.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
We would have to game plan.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
We'd have to. You have to game plan because you know,
the Steelers do what they do.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
They do do what they do.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
They do what they do.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
They they do what they do.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
They do it very well. But they do what.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
They do what they do, and they don't adjust. They
don't adjust you what they do and they do. We'd
have to play James Harrison for that fight time? All right?

Speaker 2 (50:33):
But what kind of dude is James Harrison? Okay? I
have I have two that I think he is. You know,
I don't think he's a dude's dude, No one's. I
played with him and he was kind of a dudes
dude but I was too scared of him the whole
time for him to me think that he was a
dude's dude, the freak he's I mean, he's either a
freak or dog to me, you know it. And I

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think it's a crazy thing that if he's a freak,
that he was an undrafted freak. That's probably a stat
that will never say again. And that's freaky.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
I mean, he is a freak for sure. I would
not disagree with a freaking.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
He has dog in him.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
There's no doubt. He's a relentless dog. He's a dog
that he's a pit bull. He's just never gonna stop.
It's the pitbull that's trained, Yeah, that has the lockeddaw
and just never letting go until that y'all finally gets
tired after like, yeah, put him down. I think you
gotta put him down. Basically, you got to kill him.
Let But he's also freak with that interception and the stride.
His stride when he's running, yeah, is ridiculous. I mean

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it's freaky to have a stride like that at that size,
with that much mass and to be able to run
like that, that's freaky. That's freaky.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
Tangibles dude, no one. They say he's six ft five
to eleven, He maybe five to ten. He about my height,
and he's two sixty and he runs just as fast
as me. Okay, if you want to call that not
a freak, you're fucking crazy. Yeah, you are crazy. Then
he a freak freak.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
He's a freak. James Harrison freak.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
Stamp it. We'll be right back after this quick break.
All right, let's do this our post show segment in
honor of Halloween. Let's do some horror villain comparisons to
guys that played or or play in the National Football League.

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We kind of did this with Transformers and on games
with names where we compared Transformers to guys. Now, let's
do some horror villain comparisons to NFL guys. Jigsaw, the
guy from Saw. That's terrifying. He's pulling strings behind him.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
It's a mastermind, mastermind.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
So that's kind of It's but they're not.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
As we're talking like the intangibles of how they can
you know, display what's going on, not their characteristics, like
Jigsaw was a killer, Like we're not talking about him
being an actual killer. We're talking about how they can,
you know, set the whole scenario up.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
Yeah, like the whole game plan.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
Yeah, so he Saw, So basically he's the guy behind Saw.
All right, so the whole what what am I looking for?

Speaker 2 (53:01):
You're looking for a what's so mastermind manipulator?

Speaker 1 (53:05):
Yes, uh, someone who he's believing, he like Saw, is
getting yourself to believe that if you rip your eye off,
you rip your eye, you're gonna live.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
Belichick, Yes, Belichick, that doubt about that was gonna there's
other names that's that's Bill and you're gonna die if
you don't do that.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
Yeah. It's like I would say, maybe like college coach,
uh Nick Saban, one of those guys Saban, Andy Reid
right now, current coach Andy Reid. He's a mastermind.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
Yeah, but I don't I don't see him making you
go for your life. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
I feel like I feel like he gives he gives
you an option.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
After a while in the room where you had to
like cut your arm off and he would jump out
and say, here's a cheeseburger. Yeah, you know, like he's
like a nice guy. Yes, yes, but he'll rip your
face off. I've heard that. And he practices hard and
he's tough with his guys. But Bill Belichick and Nick Saban,
I think Jigsaw, those two master minds. Frankenstein a monster

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in size and ability, without a doubt. You got to
be in this category. Jewels.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
I was gonna just say my name the bat. I
am definitely Robbie Frankenstein.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
Robbie Munster. That's easy. You can go who else? Trent Brown,
Trent Brown, definitely, Trent Williams. He's from the Niners.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
Trent Williams, the offensive tackle. Yeah, he's huge, he's Frankenstein.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
He's huge.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
Yeah, but he moves too good. He moves too good.
He doesn't move like Frankenstein.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
He's huge. But did you did you do a Frankenstein
celebration one?

Speaker 1 (54:39):
So the one in London actually was not a Frankenstein celebration.
A lot of people thought it was that one that
was changing of the guards the Buckingham Palace. I was
protecting it as one of the one of the guards,
and that's what they do when they walk back and forth.
So I did that to you know, give credit to
to London all my all, my fans, good good game,

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make good touchdowns, make Gron Gron good game, good touchdowns.
All right, I don't have a London accident.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
It's a it's a bloody chav.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
The time I did do the Frankenstein was actually when
I was in Tampa, when you didn't want to come
down with a jool. I'm always going to remind you
of that. Okay, you know, you know I.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
Wanted you there. Humidity makes my skin break, it does, it.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
Does, Humidity does. I remember that one practice in Tampa
one year when we were in the Patriots. It was
a nine am practice and dude, I was tapping. I
wanted to cry. I was twenty to cry. It was
twenty twelve. I was only like weird young bucks too.
I wanted to cry.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
It it was hot.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
It was the worst practice of my life. Oh, worst
situation every we got off the plane that night before.
It was the hardest practice too, being in that.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
The worst is when you're running in your your feet
are so soaking sloppy way you could just feel the
It's like then you go and you slide and you
get a blister because your toes in your sock.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
It's like you're jumping and then you out to practice.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
Literally all right, So Frankenstein Tampa Bay.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
All right, it's all it was weird destroying the Lions,
and I scored another touchdown from Blaine Gabbert, the first
player of the second half, and I did the Frankenstein.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
Was it on Halloween?

Speaker 1 (56:13):
Yes, No, it wasn't. It was in December, but I
just did the Frankenstein just to do the Frankenstein.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
Yeah it was. It was.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
It was a problem moment because that was my only Frankenstein.
I always wanted to do Frankenstein, and that was the
first time I did Frankenstein.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
It was the only time I did Frankenstein.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
So I'm just glad I got to do frank I mean, yeah,
Robbie Frankenstein.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
You should definitely always do Frankenstein.

Speaker 1 (56:33):
I mean I basically am Frankenstein, so I kind of
am always.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
Doing what do you big Daddy Frankenstein.

Speaker 1 (56:42):
That even kid, Oh wait, there's Frankenstein, Robert. I also
dressed up as Frankenstein at a Halloween party for the
New England Patriots for the kids. Of course, you know,
it was a Halloween party for the kids that came
to Jillette Stadium. Man, I was Frankenstein.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
I'm too short to be a Frankenstein. I'd be like
Eddie Munster did the face paint.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
I put the gloves on, and.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
So we should do. You should Frankenstein, and I'll do.
Little Eddie Munster in my little widow's peak, little vampire
like little kid. Mike Myers, who will not die, invincible brute,
got a knife in his hand. Jack Lambert, Jack Lambert
looks like he's Mike Myers. I would go and uh
always comes back? Is that Myers? Mike Myers? Right, he's

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always never dead, but.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
Always still going, still has movies.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
His comebacks are still going. Tom Brady, Tom Brady, is
he coming back?

Speaker 1 (57:37):
Is he the Michael Myers of Halloween?

Speaker 2 (57:39):
I'll tell you one, Mike that way might want him.
Mike McDaniel's down in Miami, Mike McDaniels in Miami. He
might might, won't Mike Myers, Tom Brady? All right, Freddy.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
Match, that's a match, but maybe not a match made
in heaven. But it's a match.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
What about Freddy Krueger. He's scared so haunting your dreams
slash nightmares. He haunts you.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
Yeah, he's not like he's not like a killer. It's
kind of nice, a little bit in his place. Yeah,
but he just haunts you. It's not like he's killing you, right.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
I don't remember those movies. I honestly, I was.

Speaker 1 (58:14):
A Halloween movies guy with Michael Meyers. I got terrified
and they're still going. I actually was watching the last
Michael Myers movie on a plane, like a year and
a half ago. Is the late latest Halloween that came out.
And I swear to you, I was on a plane
and I was scared shitless and I turned it off
after the first thirty minutes. And I never ever done
that with any movie in my life. I was that

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scared dude, I swear to you, I fucking that scared tendency.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
Can I have a warm glass of milk? Please?

Speaker 1 (58:44):
I just turned it off and just put on like
a comedy to just try to get out of my mind.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
It was scary. So who's Freddy Krueger? Oh?

Speaker 1 (58:53):
Oh? If we're talking on the defensive side of the
all current players like Max Crosby, Crosby Crosby.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
Crosby could be I think Lamar would haunt my dreams
if I was a defensive coordinator Lamar Jackson. I mean,
Jesus fucking Christ, is he gonna run? Is he not
gonna run? What if he feels like he doesn't want
to run today and all the weapons everywhere, Like he's
a he's a nightmare, paying Manny pet he haunt the
defensive coordinators forever, Tom he could be put in there.

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But he's also Mike Myers.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
Yes, he's just Mike.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
He just won't die. Yeah, just keeps going, Mahomes. I mean,
he's fucking terrifying to dream about if you're another team.
And like he's playing his worst football ever and he
still wins.

Speaker 1 (59:35):
VIC back in the day being the first running quarterback
to that ability. I mean, no one knew how to
stop that.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
Freddy Coueger can go anywhere. What about penny Wise? Which
one's penny Wise? The Wise?

Speaker 1 (59:45):
I never even seen penny Wise in my life hit then,
never seen it in my life, never heard of the
name penny Wise before. But I've seen that clown phase before.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
He snumbers for decades before reawakening to renew his own terror,
a book ended super Bowl career of sorts, back from
the dead, back from retirement.

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
Because clown, it'd be like you or I, yeah, yeah,
but we're not clowns. Maybe like once.

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
Ever slumbers for decades but comes back for reawakening.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
Oh, I mean, if we're talking like, is JJ walking
to come back and play in the Texas? He's need
coming back?

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
How many he's out coming? His first year out right?

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
Second year? Second year? Yes, he still looks good. He
does look good.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
He looks great. Actually he looks he looks mammoth.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
Who's coming? What about Kurt Warner? Kurt Warner?

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
Wasn't he in the NFL? And then he went and
played arena football? And then he came back to the
NFL and grocery and dreams for Grocery came back there.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
Did he win a Super Bowl?

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
Yeah? Yeah, he won to show on turf, Yeah, with
the with the Saint Louis Rams St Louis. Yeah, so
you know Kurt, Yeah, almost did. But guys who beat
him hatreds that Patriots, Bill Belchuk.

Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
Yeah, so that's a good category. In our last category,
one that got me as a child, I was terrified
of this chucky child's play. I used to I was
like eight years old. My brother scared me so bad
once when I was a kid, with the doll that
he ordered that I was too scared to shower. But

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with the I was too scared to shower. So my
mom because my brother terrified me with this when I
was like seven or six, could have been twelve. Made
my brother sit in the bathroom while I showered because
I thought something was gonna come get me in the shower,
so he had to sit on the toilet. My mom
was sitting there. So you have to do this. This

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is what you did your little brother. I can't do
I can't do it. He's gonna give me Chucky. So
who's a Chucky? I can't relate to thattals.

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
I was never a doll guy either.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
I don't know. You have a sister, so you probably
know a lot about that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
Dude. That's not terrifying.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
I never really watched Child Player, never really watched any
movie Chuck. I've probably seen ten minutes worth, and like.

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
Watch the original Style. Wasn't really watched the original Chucky.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
I've seen you know clip.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
It's I'm still rig style. Yeah, it's fucking terristyle, it is.
It's terrifying. I mean John Gruden looks like Chucky.

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
Yeah he does.

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
John Gruden is definitely a Chucky. He looks like him.
He does that Chucky face. Have you seen him on it?
Have you seen him on Instagram lately.

Speaker 1 (01:02:30):
No, I haven't, don't. I don't follow John Gruden. Yeah,
this didn't even though he was on Instagram.

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
Dude, it's so good. He has this one where he's
sitting there and he's like got a coach's sweat from
being on like a treadmill for like ten minutes. You know,
coaches get all sweaty and and he's like, yeah, I'm
sweating right now. I just got done watching Jayden Daniels film.
Like he I love man. Gruden loves football, he loves

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It'll be interesting to see if he can give back
in Woodhead.

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
It looks like Woodhead. Yeah, a little doll out there, yes,
Woodhead all for real? I hear he's Danny Woodhead. Oh man.
He he was like chucky though he was tricky. You
really want to practice today like he was. He was
the most negative positive guy of all times. Like yo,
like like you really want to practice? Why are we
playing football? Like when's the bye week? When is the

(01:03:24):
bye week? We need to get on a vacation. I'm like, yo,
it's the second week in training camp. Danny would get
away from me. I'm trying to enjoy lunch and get
ready for practice. And you're trying to freaking convince me
that I should not go out there. And then he
goes out there, the most positive guy. Let's go, guys,
let's go. And he's running full speed every every play.
I'm like the few just saying you want to practice.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
This is what he would do. He would come in,
he guys, he come in, he guys, is anyone else's
hamstrings feel like they're about to blow up? Like that's
that's what he would say, even you, Does anyone else
think that their calf buscles about to fall off? And yeah,
and we gotta go do a double date right now.
Like That's how he would do it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
And I'd be like and I'd be like no, and
he'd be like, yeah, but just think about it. Just
think about your hamstring there, like it's blowing up.

Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
And then he would head at practice. He'd be lighting
it up. He'd be fine, fool speak, come on, he
was great, good, look he's actually he's qualifying. He's trying
to qualify for golf again. I mean he's he's a
fucking stud golfer. I hope he gets it this year.

Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
Yo. If he took that technique that he you know
that he was doing with us in the facility, like, oh,
is your hamstring about the blow? If he goes up
to a golfer, like, hey, are you feeling it today? Man,
I'm not really feeling he can because golfing is all
about minds. It's about mental You gotta get up in
the head so he can get in the golfer's heads
and he can just win just doing that technique.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
Right, let's coach that, get in this golf Let's go Woodie,
let's go.

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
That was fun Halloween edition of Dudes on Dude. That's
been another episode of Dudes on Dudes. What could we
do better next episode?

Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
What could we do about our next second? What could
we do about our next episode? Jules, I'm not sure,
so comment. Let us know, let us know, let us know, please,
we want.

Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
To get about it. We're coachable, Yes, we are coachable. Hey,
one thing about us, we were very coachable. That's you
told Rob Grenkowski won thing once. It never happened again.
It was a little different with me. I had it's
a little defiant, but with Rob very coachable. I'm very
coachable as well. Yeah, but you stay coachable because of that. Yeah,

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you stay coachable because you have to.

Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
If you don't listen the first time, they still have
something to coach.

Speaker 3 (01:05:37):
That's what you were doing. You were staying coachable. I
wanted I wanted them to coach me. Yeah, so you
just did it wrong on purpose so they could coach you.
But even though you knew what to do, but you
wanted to get really coached so that if there was
another scenario, another situation of you know of the type
of route that you're running in, where the guy is located.
You knew what to do on every scenario. That's how cool,

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