Super Bowl XX with Sebastian Maniscalco | Patriots vs. Bears

Sebastian Maniscalco is in studio! The actor and comedian is with us to relive an all time Chicago Bears win: Super Bowl XX. 

(00:00:00) We kick things off. (02:08.59) Sebastian joins us on the couch. (12:00.72) We go back to January 1986. (22:12.28) We get into the teams. (30:55.40) We dive into the game. (45:11.60) We score the game. (56:12.00) We hit The Chill Zone presented by Coors Light. 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now has there ever been anything close to the Super
Bowl Shuffle since?

Speaker 2 (00:05):
This is what forty years ago?

Speaker 3 (00:10):
So it was released on week thirteen of the NFL season,
so it was wasn't like they weren't the super Bowl
at that point, and it peaked at forty one on
the Billboard Top one hundred.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Yeah, no, there hasn't the Super Bowl. Welcome to Games
with Names. I'm Julian Edelman, They're Jack and Kyler, and
we are on the search to find the greatest game
of all time. And on today's episode, we are covering

(00:42):
super Bowl twenty with record breaking comedian, actor and podcast
host Sebastian Manascalfco. And we're talking barefoot kickers. That was
never brought up, like in the locker room? What happened
to the barefoot kicker? If I saw that, I would
make fun of the guy Refrigerator Perry.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
If you have a player like sweetness, do we give
him a touchdown.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
The greatest defense of all time?

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Every one of these names to me are like Hall
of Fame guys.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
And we hit the discord in the chill Zone presented
by COR's Life. You gotta stick around to the very end.
Games Name is a production of iHeartRadio. January twenty six,
nineteen eighty six, Louisiana, Supernome, New Orleans, Louisiana.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
The Monsters of the Midway shuffle into a matchup against
the road Warrior Patriots.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
But it was all Bears in the big easy.

Speaker 4 (01:47):
This is Super Bowl twenty.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Welcome to games with names. Today we are talking Super
Bowl twenty Patriots versus Bears with comedian Sebastian Manescalco. You
got it? Did get Yeah? I'm Scalco. Yeah. I went
to the Italian riviera this last summer. It was spectacular. Yeah.
I went to the Pesto Portofino area. Then we went

(02:25):
to where I going. We went to Rome for a
few days. I've been to Rome a few times now though.
And then we went to uh Florence. That was spectacular,
had really good sandwiches.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
So, when you're on vacation in Italy, are you wearing
like flip flops?

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Are you? No? No, I don't wear any flip flops
because I have terrible feet. I'm very self conscious. The
only time I wear a flip flop is in a
shower with other men. Okay, all right, if you know.
But in one sentence, why did you pick this game.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
So this brings me back to childhood. I was twelve
when this happened. This is before your time. What are
you thirty nine?

Speaker 2 (03:04):
I was born the next year. Okay, so yeah, this
is next year. You didn't live this.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
This was this was a lot was going on with
the eighty five Bears. We had the Super Bowl Shuffle.
You had McMahon with the headband. You had snowing. I
believe that Soldier field when Wilber Marshall picked up the
fumble to take it back.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
What else did you have? You had Ditka.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
And Buddy Ryan feuding, so many person had Refrigerator Perry running,
you know, playing running back. So Sweetness, Sweetness did score
in the Super Bowl. To this day, I want to
ask you about that. If that's something that that if
if you have a player like Sweetness, do we give

(03:49):
him a touchdown just for touchdown sake?

Speaker 2 (03:53):
That? What's what's the take.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
Professional football and getting a guy his due?

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Well, I know Dicka has publicly said he feels terrible
for it, and he got caught up in the moment
and didn't even realize he didn't get a touchdown. But
if you're going to ride a bell cow all year
long as they did with Walter Peyton as a player
on the team and he was our guy, I would
want to see him get a touchdown. If I was
on that team and I was a receiver and Sweetness

(04:26):
didn't get a touchdown, I would have felt sick.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
Okay, let me, let me, let me throw this one
at you. Plays designed for you in the Super Bowl?
You okay with giving it to Sweetness?

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yeah? If he's the reason we got there, got you.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
Just always want to know what the professional take is
on getting a guy like Peyton a touchdown in the
Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
But that was a big controversy.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Yeah, so I I this is a game that I
like to relive one.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
That's the heat. You're twelve years old. Is this the
greatest game of all time? Greatest game of all time?
I don't know about the greatest game. I think it's
the biggest game in Chicago history. I would say forty
I think believe it's forty six. Then blowout caps off

(05:21):
a season with the one loss in Miami, which you know,
being a Bears fan, when that happened, the whole town
was like, this is it. We're dying.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
It's over. So being a Bears fan. It's been very
difficult since this game. Yeah, Now, what's your sports fandom
in Chicago? Like, what's your hierarchy? Is it Bears, Bulls, Cubs?
So yeah, I think the Bears has always been a
constant in my life.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
So Football's one.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
Football's won, it was superseded by the nineties Bulls, and
then it's hockey, and then it's baseball. I'm not a
huge baseball guy. Blackhawks. You ever meet Cellos Chris Shellios?
I have met, Yes, he was at this show at

(06:10):
the United Center. Actually not too long ago. Hell yeah,
good dude, Now are you on?

Speaker 2 (06:15):
Like, sorry, is this available here? I'm here? This is available? Yeah,
this is usually Jules. Is that if you haven't even
forgot stat questions? I'm tapped into the listening. I have
to say something.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
I clocked this as soon as I walked in the home,
and I've done I've done a good share of podcast.
I have never seen this amount of.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
Laptops on a podaca. I mean, like, what, one's just
not going to do it? So I'll explain it to you.
So this laptop is here. If we have the whole
show stats and whatnot, this laptop is Jules doesn't know
how to ask questions on his own. So it's this
TV here that I'm question one, what are you talking about?

(06:59):
What are you talking about? Just sweeping out of the door.
I'm doing of your things, sweeping out the door. I
seen your stand up for the viewers. I don't even
know if you guys know this.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
There's a screen over it and they're basically feeding him
the dialogue.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
All right, if this, if this thing goes off, the
interviews on laptop three four? What's laptop three four? I
want to have access to the internet in case you
ask a question, I can go there other way because
these ones are the monitors, all right? And then what
are you doing? So we got a lot of laptops here,

(07:36):
We got a lot of laptops. That one's the whole show.
That one's like computer camera. Okay, Michael, Wow, this is
a whole deal. Yeah, Okay.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Now that we got that situated, I feel like I'm
a little bit more comfortable knowing what's going on over here.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
So did you grow up and did you have brothers
and sisters growing up? Solo? No, that's not I'm there.
He's feeling self conscious.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
I have I have a sister who's five years younger
than me, who actually lives out here in Los Angeles
and works for me. She's an editor. She edits movie trailers,
but she does all my editing.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
So where did sports fandom come? And it come from Pops,
my father.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
I played soccer growing up and my father is a
huge Bears fan.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
So was my grandfather.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
And to this day, last night we watched the game
and I'm facetiming every commercial, going, what do you think?

Speaker 2 (08:30):
What's going on? So I get this sells it look good?

Speaker 4 (08:34):
You know?

Speaker 1 (08:34):
So we have It's a bond that's made my relationship
with my father extremely important. We share well. It's funny.
He used to come to my soccer games and live
through me. Like you were saying, you're living through your daughter,
I'm living through my son. And once soccer was over,

(08:56):
he is now living through my stand up. So he
critiques my stand up as he was critiquing my soccer.
And I don't know if you've had this in your family.
Does your family when you were playing football and now
you're doing this, do they watch the show?

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Do they call you and go what are you doing?
Is there all the time? I have the same similar
father relationship and does that bother you makes me so mad.
I'm like, Dad, you have no clue about this anything.
But then I think about it and it makes me
think he thought, yeah, it actually is a.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
It adds value, but you might not think it does
because probably from what I'm guessing, I don't know your father,
the message is probably aggressive and it doesn't really wrap
the gift like you would probably.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Want it rap to you. But it's always in the
back of your head. It's pure honesty. But there's a
lot of bias too, so sometimes I think I can
read the bullshit out of it. Sometimes, like my mom
will say that was the best episode ever. It's like, Mommy,
it was only because it was like Nicki Glazer and
you understood half the things about Taylor Swift really like

(10:15):
numbers wise, this had nothing this. You know, I don't know.
I can't say if it was the greatest ever, you know,
but I think it's the greatest, like you know, like that,
or Dad, you know, why didn't you ask Jerry on this?
You know, like, well, you know, I didn't know the
flow of the conversation. There's sometimes they just it's like
your parents though.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
Yeah, no, it's I have a feeling of Dad's gonna
watch this and go, what's what the sheep.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Fur on his jacket?

Speaker 3 (10:40):
He's actually here, He's in the back.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
Is he on a laptop? He is? So do you
have this?

Speaker 1 (10:58):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (10:59):
Are you pretty hop up with You're current with the
Chicago Bears.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
Now I'm not. See it's funny. I remember every starter
on this team, and last time I'm watching the game
and I didn't really know a lot of guys other
than the quarterback whose name is escaping me right now. Yeah,
So yeah, it's funny. I was so baked into this
team where I knew everybody on it, and now I'm

(11:27):
watching the game and I'm not so privy to the players.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
But are you known as like a Chicago guy in
your industry? Yes, I'm talking about sport fan. Everyone knows
that you're from Chicago.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
I mean, not so much sports, because I've been dormant
with sports, just watching from Afar Bears when Nae lost yesterday.
Now I got my kid who's six, who is into sports.
He's playing soccer, he's playing t ball. We throw the football.
He's learning the rules. So now I'm getting more into

(11:58):
it because he's into it.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Yeah. Yeah, Well, let's go back into a segment around
where this game took place January twenty sixth, nineteen eighty six.
I was actually born the year of this game, you
said before, and go over pop culture. Number one movie
was the color Purple. I never saw I've seen some
of that that cuts up. That's the Oprah Winfree one, right,

(12:20):
never saw it. You never saw it. No song that.
That's what friends are for. That's what friends are Keep smiling, Yeah,
you see that one. What was what was the eighties
like for you?

Speaker 5 (12:35):
Like?

Speaker 2 (12:35):
What were you like in eighty six? You're twelve years old?

Speaker 1 (12:38):
Twelve years old, I was dancing in front of a
mirror constantly.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
I was just breaking into cologne at this age.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
You got a good one on This is unfortunate and
this is Polo. Actually, Polo give it to me as
a gift from a fan. Actually gave me this. By
the way, I don't know if you even clones. Yeah,
we're Yeah, I'm doing something a little different with my
cologne that I just like to share with the group.
I'm doing two different colognes at once, always a blend

(13:15):
not well once here and one's on the back of
the neck. So you get one cent coming and another
cent going, and it really really throws people for a
loop because as I leave here tonight, here today, you're
gonna go dee?

Speaker 2 (13:35):
Was that another cent? I just saw I'm gonna so.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
Yeah, I'm getting into the cologne. In nineteen eighty six,
I want to say, was jupe joop hint the cinnamon
and was really really instrumental in picking up my first
girlfriend twelve years old? Yeah, it was stating a girl

(14:02):
in the neighborhood by the name of Kathy.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
That's it. Jew all right explained.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
There's not too many explanation points on cologne, but jupad one,
Where did you.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
Get this as a twelve year old? Did you save up? Like?

Speaker 1 (14:16):
My father was heavily into colomb My father is in
the hair business. He's a hairstylist, so I grew up
with a lot of product around the house. That's why, Well,
I'm trying to save my hair. I think I need
another I mean it's a transplant. I had a transplant
by eight years ago, not shy about it at all
at all, but need another one. Hair's when I got

(14:37):
two kids, hair is falling out constantly.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
Yeah, kids will do that. I've gone completely gray. No,
he's got a nice out of hair man. Completely gray.
When you know you coach by Belichick for twelve years
then go into parenting right after.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
It's it's a long it's a long it's a long,
long road either way. I see, and I don't want
to jump ahead here, but I'm looking at the the
Rocky four that was, That's where I was, what I was,
That's when I started working out. When I saw Rocky
and that body, I'm like, that's what I need to get.

(15:18):
And uh, that was highly motivational Rocky fours.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
I got an unpopular take. I love Rocky four all
the like, real like cinematic. People like Rocky four is
the worst. I'm like, yeah right, Rocky four was like
my favorite. This is the train montage, the rushing montage
before games? Didn't you do that? Yeah? I used to
love that ship. You used to used to put that
on before you went out on.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
The field, young young kid, like college, was there anything
on the twenty five.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
Maybe a couple of years going into my rookie year, Yeah,
maybe so.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
So in the locker room, people get ready for a
game in different ways. Is it okay to make fun
of a guy's prep for a game, like his pregame
ritual do you ever tap each other?

Speaker 2 (16:10):
And what the fuck is this guy doing? Nah, it's
It wasn't as crazy as it probably was in the
earlier years. By the time it got to me, everyone
had headphones on. We had a rule where, you know,
no loud music because everyone prepares differently, So if you
want music, put it in your ear no headphones prior

(16:32):
to our last checkout time, so like once the game
starts were out of headphones. But I used to like
like the montage music from like the Rocky movies, and
I would listen to that so I could visualize. I
didn't like lyrics in my in my music before the game,
and I didn't like music that got too high like

(16:52):
I did when I was young. By the time I
got older, it was more of like a focus factor
on what made me prepare most. Didn't want to get
my heart rate up, wanted to visualize my game plan,
all that kind of stuff. And sometimes I would use
the soundtrack of Rocky four. All right, I loved Rocky four.
Rocky four is a good one. What's the eighty movies
were like my favorite because I grew up with an

(17:12):
older brother who was seven years older than me, and
so I watched all the old eighty movies, the action movies,
the sports movies when I was younger. There's its just
like the movie scenes. Not like that anymore. No, the
one liners like if you could remake an eighties movie?
What eighties movie? Would you remake? Eighties? What was going on?

Speaker 1 (17:32):
I like Breakfast Club, that whole like John Hughes erase
all those movies I really enjoyed from Ferris Bueller's Day Off.
I don't know if that's a huge movie, but this
is in that kind of realm planes, trains, and onobio,
Candy and Candy, which I just started ago. Guys, right,

(17:57):
candy is Canadian, Canadian, Canadian right outside to Rono.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Check that out here. It's good in fact check that.
Please check it up. What else?

Speaker 1 (18:09):
A lot of comedies in the eighties, movie wise, well
the best, not really seeing that in this day and age.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
How about Bo Jackson? He was that was he took
He took the the culture over for like two five years. Yeah,
everything was Bo Jackson, all the Nike stuff. Is there
any did you like sports movies growing up?

Speaker 1 (18:31):
You know, my favorite sports movie growing up. Was Brian's
song Great Gail Siris, Gail Stairs. That's right, that's that's
every time. Oh God, who else was in that? Who's
who was the other guy?

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Was it James James conn?

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Yeah, so that was one of my favorites growing up.
Other than that, I don't really remember Williams and Billy
D Williams he played gl What else was there in
the eighties that was a rooty? Was that nineties?

Speaker 2 (19:04):
Thatst nineties but took place in the seventies.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
Yeah, I'll just just giving an average. Yeah, Bo Jackson,
it's unfortunately got hurt because I think we would have
saw a lot more out of him. And Marcus Allen
MVP of the league. Yeah, I don't know. I just
I never really it wasn't really a Marcus Allen fan.

(19:30):
Just the Bears, Guy Bears, Guy Bears. I thought it
was like almost like you couldn't root for. Actually I
did like the San Francisco forty nine ers. That was
my second favorite team growing up.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
That's gotta be hard, is it whooping on you guys
all the time? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (19:45):
Yeah, But I just I like, uh, for whatever the reason,
George Seaffert anytime they went to him on the he
just looked like he knew what he was doing. With
the white hair and the glasses. He just looked like
he no one motion. Similar to Belichick in the sense
where you know Belichick you could look at his face

(20:06):
and you could be up thirty and you wouldn't know
just by looking at him.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
No, there's a funny meme going around that my boy
just sent me. It's where this kid look at this
kid scores a touchdown on the special teams and hands
it to coach like after the after and he just
goes get it out of my face. Was it Brandon School?
It's cool? Yeah? Yeah, he he was in the zone,
that's for sure.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
So to wrap up this year, this is an interesting
time for Boston sports with a lot of Boston fans
because the year prior or eighty five, the same season
the Celtics lost to the Lakers, they ended up winning
in eighty six against the Houston Rockets, and then also
eighty six was the famous Bill Buckner losing to the Mets.
Red Sox losing to the Mets.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
Wow, would you ever want to do a sports movie
like acting one? Did you kind of do that?

Speaker 1 (20:53):
The betting was with a yeah, yeah, yeah, you know,
I don't know who. What what good Italian sports figure?
You think I could muscle out? You could be like
a racer Drecon. What is that the mark Mario.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
Vince?

Speaker 1 (21:12):
Oh yeah, he's already been done. Remember you know who
that is? Oh yeah, yeah, No, I'm like talking like.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
The Italians.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
I feel like don't really excel in athletics. Yeah, that
could be a good show. Adam Vinitari, great kicker. I
guess there's some Italians out there that are Mario Andretti.
Why do you say it that way though, Well, because.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
I've learned if there's because if I learned, if there's
two I was in Italy and they say, if there's
two letters that are close to you get together. If
it's two ours, then you're supposed to roll it.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
Oh oh I'm Italian, I say, Andretti, you know you're
American Italian? Though maybe I I know the Italian pure
Italian puire. We'll be right back after this quick break.
Let's jump into this game.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
But nineteen then Patriots won eleven and five. They were
led by Raymond Berry in his second season as head coach.
They got a mid season Joel when Tony Easton got
benched in week six after got a two and three start.
Then Steve Grogan came in and gave this team a
little bit of a spark. They went six and oh
in that time, but then broke. Grogan broke his leg
in week twelve, so Easton took over. They were also
finished third in the AFC West Gott in the wild card,

(22:34):
went a little hot all the way to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
Andre Tippitt, John Hannah, Hall of Famers. Yeah, Dante Carnecia
was on the stat coach, car who's my offensive line coach?
That's how long he was there? Wow? Yeah? What did
you remember of this new England Patriots team?

Speaker 4 (22:48):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (22:49):
Did?

Speaker 1 (22:50):
Their running back was? He named James? Was Creig James,
Craig James. That's who I remember, And that guy Tippet
I remember. Other than that, I don't remember a lot
of about England.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
I don't remember tracking them on the other in the AFC.
I just was focused on what the Bears were doing.
So when they came to the Super Bowl, I think
I got introduced to them more than I did throughout
the season.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
It's probably different back then too, because you only saw
a certain amount of games on your local TV and
it was usually your team. Yeah. So, like I remember,
even as a kid, I didn't even see Patriots games
because I was a West Coast kid group in the
Bay Area. I didn't even see the fucking Patriots play. Also,
the Dolphins was really the team for the Dolphins? Yeah, yeah,
you're right.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
Well, one fun fact about this team, Tony Franklin, the
place kicker was a barefoot kicker.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
Okay, can we talk about the barefoot kicker and where
did they go? What happened to the barefoot kicker and punter?
I think there was a punter in the eighties. I
always say his name was Landetta, but I don't think
it was Landetta.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
There was a barefoot Is this I remember the barefoot
I mean there was a Disney movie that I used
to love where the dad was a barefoot professional kicker.
It's like one of those Disney originals. I forgot the name,
but yeah, there was a barefoot bad But do you
as football players.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
If I saw that, I would make fun of the guy. Yeah,
that was never brought up. Like in the locker room,
what happened to the barefoot kicker? No one ever talks
about that.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
No one. You know what, we had a really cool
kicker with Steve Goskowski. But the kicker is kind of
in his own world.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
Like did you see the game last night? That the
Bears game at all? Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
The kicker is brand New Moody from San Francisco. Yeah,
so his third round draft pick. Yeah, and this is
like his first game and he kicked four field goals. Yeah,
it got one block where it was a little low,
but that was still a big I mean he made
some big kicks. Oh yeah, No, definitely.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
He did the interview at the end of the game,
which I've never seen with the helmet on. I've never
seen that before.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
I would, I would take it off to get the
face out. He's a team player. It's about the team,
is it. That was unheard of, But it was also
kind of smart in Chicago because he doesn't want people
knowing his face too well if he does miss one
in the future, because those people are ruthless out there. Yeah.
I agree. What's a better town to do comedy in
Chicago or Boston.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
That's a tough one. Boston's really great comedy town. I
really like Boston. It's it's it's I I would say
they're equal but different.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
Different.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
The Chicago crowds are great, but a little bit more
polite in their laughter. Boston is a little bit more outgoing,
very kind of boisterous in how they enjoy comedy and
they get it.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
So I love Boston. It's a great city. That's kind
of the difference between East Coast people and Midwest people.
I went to school in Midwest and all like my call.
I went to Kent State and Ohio, and Midwest people
are just really polite and somewhat nicer. Yeah, than when
you go back east to Boston, are there Do you

(26:09):
ever go to Strega and oh yeah, Straga North End?
Nick Nick Oh, Nicky nick Nick's our god. Yeah, look
shout out. They only have one Stragan now though they
shut one down. He had stripped by Strega. He sold out.
I think he sold too. He made Nicki Nicki was
in that movie, you know, Molly's Game. Yeah, he told

(26:30):
me that he got a part in a movie that
they just they threw him in. They threw him in
that because he was in the actual games that that
girl was throwing those poker He loves the gamble. Oh okay,
so he always makes sense, you know, all right, Let's
go to the Chicago Bears.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
The nineteen eighty five Bears were led by Mike Dika.
They went fifteen and one. They were jugging out from
start to finish, starting the year twelve and oh. Their
only lost came in an epic Monday night game against
Miami and.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
Dan Marino, which we covered with Bill Burr. We did.
That was a game he picked.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
Behind the vaunted forty six Bear defense, they were one
of the best defense of all time, allowing just twelve
point nine points per game. Hall of famers on this
roster Walter Payton, Mike Secretary, Mike Dicka, Dan Hampton, Jim Kovert,
and Steve McMichael.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
Jim McMahon quarterback. Refrigerated Perry was a rookie. What do
you remember these Bears?

Speaker 1 (27:16):
Well, I remember big Dan Hampton, fan, loved Dan uh
loved Gary Fencik, who was the safety.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
And then.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
Who else did I like? Because Willie Gold Yeah, Willie
Golds on this team. Yeah, I mean, like, I mean,
and I'm just looking at this thing and it's just
stacked with talent and maybe because I was a Chicago
Bears fan and every one of these names to me
are like Hall of Fame guys, just because I just

(27:51):
I just thought from soup to nuts, they were they
were the best dare I say best team ever in
the in the l.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
I mean there's arguments people do argue the eighty five
Bears to being one of the best teams of.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
All time, Monsters of the Midway, and a shock that
they didn't win subsequent Super Bowls.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
I mean, that's that's the tough part of it. Buddy
Ryan defensive coordinator left went to the Eagles. Yeah, yeah,
before this game too. They announced it to the team
that he was going to the Eagles. I think the
night or two before this game. I think I remember that. Now,
what was the how did you watch games this generation
of you when you were a kid, Like did you

(28:33):
have family over? Was there like a potluck? Or was
it just you and dad at the tv? How would
you eat? Like? How were your suit your your NFL Sundays?

Speaker 1 (28:41):
NFL Sundays, generally speaking, the games were at noon. I
remember Sundays. I had to do yard work, so I
would be cutting the grass around ten o'clock and my
dad would be out there doing yard work too. My
dad used to do yard work with no shirt on

(29:02):
and then come in sweating with like hair clippings in
his chest hair.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
It was just dirt. It was a lot.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
And then he used to eat with no shirt on.
So and I don't know how common this is nowadays.
Have you ever sat down at the dinner table with
your family shirtless after cutting the lawn to eat a
bowl of pasta?

Speaker 2 (29:25):
I don't think this is even happening now. It's no,
maybe some Hamburger helper. But the thing is my dad.
There has been times where my dad has come in
with like, I think that's an old timer thing, come
in with the shirt off, because we used to do

(29:45):
the same thing. Saturdays was landscape day. Yeah, but it'd
be like a chicken salad sandwich, not pasta. Yeah, well real,
that's an Italian thing. Yeah, Saturdays was was car washing day.
I remember Weekends was just chores. Yeah, it was a
lot of work.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
And that was My mother had a nineteen eighty two
Seville with white wall wheels that I would wash shirtless.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
Because I remember the girl.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
Two streets down every Saturday morning used to drive by
with her bicycle and I used to take the shammy
and wring out the shammy as she passed so she
could get a look at the track that the triceps.
So yeah, god at work. Never nothing I ever did worked,

(30:47):
Just not that guy anyway.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
So little Chelsea drives by your shammy and your your
your rag or whatever. It's eleven thirty. How do you would?
Then we go into the house and Pops is eating
pasta with no shirt on, watching the Yeah, so there's
no shirt on.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
And then we transferred over to the living room, I think,
still shirtless, and we watched the Bears game. And uh,
I remember him having socks. Did he have socks?

Speaker 2 (31:13):
Then?

Speaker 1 (31:13):
My grandfather had socks. It socks, like a socks rolled
up into a ball. So you take the socks, you
know how you put the socks away in the drawer.
And he would throw the socks at the TV when
he got angry, so you know, so he would just
have like socks that he would throw at the TV.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
Yeah, it's just Chicago sports.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
I mean you must laugh at fans, right, I mean,
like what they do, and like when you look up
into the stands and you see like some of these
like over zealous fans like cheering, you got to look
up there and go, what the hell's going on?

Speaker 2 (31:46):
No not, I mean sometimes yeah, but I mean I
remember being a kid being a fan. I remember being
at Candlestick watching the San Francisco forty nine ers in
seats you couldn't even watch the game doing stupid shit. Yeah,
you know what I mean. I was one of those people.
I wasn't like an extreme fan because I was always

(32:07):
But you know, I've seen some You go to Buffalo
once a year and you see what those people do, Well,
you've seen some stuff. Yeah, that's that's a whole level
of thing. I never really tilly, they're crazy. This guy
made fun of my haircut for like four straight quarters.
I had these two parts in the back of my

(32:27):
neck because I was doing Yeah of those young This
guy made fun of my haircut for fucking three straight hours.
So you hear that. I heard. Well, he was in
the first row right behind our bench. I was like,
this fucking guy's he gonna shut up? Like the whole
time didn't stop. Finally we won. I looked at him
and said, you like, there, but it's fun, it's part

(32:49):
of it. Let's get into this game.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
So the Patriots became just the third wildcard team to
make a Super Bowl at this time, winning all three
playoff games on the road, most notably beating Dimmer and
the Dolphins the championship game, the Switch the Fish game
we did with Gary Gellman. The Bears just strolled into
the Super Bowl, didn't allow a single point on their way,
winning both games by twenty plus points leading into the
Super Bowl that took place in New Orleans. Also, we

(33:14):
have to mention the super Bowl Shuffle, the super Bowl Shuffle.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
Now, has there ever been anything close to the Super
Bowl Shuffle since this is what.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
Forty years ago? I think at this time, every Super
Bowl team did something like that. After the Bears did
the super Bowl Shuffle, because I remember it wasn't there
a couple of them like the Rams did it. I
remember seeing they were never the super Bowl Shuffle.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
So it was released on week thirteen of the NFL season,
so it wasn't like they weren't the super Bowl at
that point, and it peaked at forty one on the
billboard top one hundred.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
No, there hasn't.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
I mean, they're doing the super Bowl Shuffle through what
five six weeks before the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
I mean that's on her confidence, that's confident. Did you
what was the halftime show? Here Up with People the nonprofit,
so it's Up with People presents Beat of the Future. Wow,
this is before they did real half time shows, no
halftime show up with People. Do you hear the halftime

(34:19):
show in the locker room? Now? I mean you could
hear like the bay you know what I mean? But
it's no, you're in the zone. How many super Bowls
did you go to? I went to five? We won
three super Bowls? Wow? Well I played in four though
I tore my a c O and one of them
or in this season, but our team went yea.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
So well, you go to five super Bowls? Is it
just like that by the fifth one?

Speaker 2 (34:44):
Is this? Do you feel like? Is there that energy?

Speaker 4 (34:48):
There?

Speaker 2 (34:48):
There is, because every time you win a super Bowl
your life changes in a whole other fashion. We'll give
every club you get in it's a different club. If
you have one super Bowl, that's a club. It changes,
and you get the two, there's crazy doors that open
for that. If you get to that third one, you
know it is there. It's like children. The first time

(35:10):
is always like what the what the fuck? Experience with
the first one, But after that you know how hard
it is to get back there, because after you win one,
it's so much harder to get to another one because
your America's most wanted.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
So could you give me an example of the difference
between Super Bowl two and three and what door is
open at the at the third super Bowl that might
have not been there at the second super Bowl? Or
are you saying that, yeah, we did.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
I mean I pretty much was getting like revenue sharing
plans with with freaking clothing companies and designing my own
clothes after the third one. The first one you're like
going to the Grammys, the third, second one, you're going
to the met Gala, you know, like other stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
Other opportunities do speaking opportunities open up with corporations one
after Super Bowl one?

Speaker 2 (36:09):
Two? I would say after one, you're getting speaking opportunities.
After two and three you're getting more zeros, gotcha?

Speaker 1 (36:21):
And then what at at six and seven, when you
get to Brady's level, you just get flag football offers.
In Saudi Arabia, just get blank checks.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
I think there's just a yeah, there's blank checks with
Arabic on it. There's just like a lot of doors,
a lot of doors that are being opened. So this
was a good old fashioned beat down. This was yeah,
but did lead three to zero at one point, though,
Walter Payton fumbled and the Patriots recovered and kicked the field.
Go on. That's right, that's right. That's where I thought
we were in trouble. That's the first drive. Yeah, and

(36:59):
then the rest of the game just went exactly how
people anticipated, just an absolute beat down. Things to remember
from this is the refrigerator Perry touchdown, a sweet lack
of touchdown for sweetness. Yeah you too. So you said
you thought you guys were going out of it after
the first drive. Is that just the natural.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
That's a natural way a Chicago Bears fan thinks sky's falling,
Sky's falling, it's over, We're done.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
There's been so many times in a Bears game where
you go, that's just Bears football, you know. I was
watching it last night just telling my father, I go,
they get penalty, you know, bring back the touchdown, bring
it back.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
That's that's Chicago Bears football. Commanders though out Bears, do
you guys they had a couple fumbles? They did, they did,
and you guys looked like a competent team, which Rin Johnson,
Caleb Williams maybe they're getting a little chemistry.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
Yeah, maybe maybe did you just go into a Chicago
act so.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
Moles and Bears. He's versatile.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
He goes from rolling the end of at the and
then right into Northwest suburbs of Sugar.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
Bro Something from this game too that kind of gets
lost in the history is that there was a play
where Refrigerated Perry was supposed to throw it. I saw
that there was a trick player he was going to
that didn't end up doing it, but they gave.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
It to him on a sweep and he was looking
to throw and then he just put it down. I don't.
I don't. If he would have threw for a touchdown
and got a touchdown and no touchdown for Walter, that
would have that would have been bad. It would have
been bad.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
Well, diving into this game, we found out that the
origin of Refrigerator Perry getting the ball was very much
a Mike dick despite against Bill Walsh the year prior
in the NFC Championship game where they ran an a
lineman like had a pass play or something and Dicka
took that personally. So then when they played the Foreignitans
played the Bears earlier this year, the Bears kicked the
shout of the foreig nine ers. They gave it to

(38:57):
Refrigerated Perry and he kind of liked it, and then
they just kept using him and then it shows up
here the touchdown.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
Now, when did you know this game was over?

Speaker 1 (39:08):
I think when it was, you know, halftime twenty three three,
we looked like we kind of had it wrapped up.
Although again, as a Bears fan, nothing has ever wrapped up.
But I think after the third quarter we solidified the game,
and that's where I think we started celebrating. I think
my dad put his shirt back on and we we

(39:29):
had a canoli and yeah, but I don't know. I
think this team, we were very confident in that they
were going to meet their destiny and then win the
Super Bowl. I just think the whole town there was
an energy in the town that hasn't we haven't seen
since that this this is one of the best teams ever.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
Now, like going to school and like, was it just
like pandemonium in Chicago? Like we're how are the street?
I mean I can only imagine, Well, we didn't do
we weren't. We're not a parade family. We didn't do
uh no parade? Yeah, let's go down then hang out
with a million people. That's not really our our vibe.

(40:12):
But yeah, we were all talking about it at school.
Of course, as a kid when you're twelve years old,
I never played organized football, but we played football in
the neighborhood tackle right across the street from our house.
It was like an open field.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
So of course when you see a game like that
the next day, you want to like reincarnate.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
You know, I used to do commentary when I used
to play football too. I used to play football alone,
just throwing the you know, like did a whole thing
down down the field and I'm like, god, yeah, Richard
Dent or whatever with the tackle as always, just like
playing the crowd too, you know, I don't know. Back then,
it was very special for the guys in the in

(40:51):
the neighborhood to have a Super Bowl champion team.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
Yeah. Now, what's the aftermath of this? So final score
forty six to ten.

Speaker 3 (41:00):
The Bears would win their first and only Super Bowl,
and defensive end Richard Dent was named MVP.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
With the one and a half sacks, Richard Dent put
a den in history. Oh yeah, man, and.

Speaker 3 (41:11):
This bear eighty five Bears defense is widely regarded as
one of the greatest of all time. Bears deed led
the league in points allowed with one hundred ninety eight,
yards allowed with four one hundred and thirty five, and
takeaways with fifty four. The forty six also led the
league interceptions thirty four and ranked third, and sacks sixty four.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
What the forty six goes that not a defense played
anymore in number.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
It is just now the game has changed because there's
more speed on the field and teams spread out the
forty six. So once you spread out the forty six
with the forty six is there's a lot of guys
in the box and a lot of big guys in
the bucks. So what teams did to combat it was
they got smaller guys on the perimeter, and so they'd
spread those guys out and they'd have to try to

(41:52):
cover a smaller guy. The game just changed. So is
there a there's still a Bear defense, but that's usually
on goal line. So you'll see the forty six come
up on the goal line, or you'll see it in
like a blitch situation. A lot of times teams will
jump into the old Bear. But it's pretty noticeable and guy,
you can expose it just because the game has changed,

(42:15):
just kind of like in basketball. You know, you can't
go on the paint anymore. Back then you could go
in the paint and there was a lot more hitting.
The game is spread out now where everyone's hitting three,
So it changes the style of guy you bring in.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
So is there a defense in the NFL that combats
this like stretched out? Like has anybody figured on thousand?

Speaker 2 (42:38):
They say the two thousand Ravean the Ravens with Ray
Lewis was a generational defense. They talk about the Legion
of Boom. The twenty fourteen twenty thirteen Seattle Seahawks had
a special secondary and a really good defensive, insane defensive
line mid set records. There's been like three or four

(42:58):
defenses that bat the dominance, but nothing quite to what
they did. It was like ahead of the time, you
know what I mean when they did this, And then
the Niners started using all you know, throwing to the
running back, throwing to the other guys, which changed how
people played that defense.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
So I remember, in this game there's a fullback by
the name of Matt Suey right now, and I often
wonder what the hell happened to the full back? Does
he get to run anymore? In today's game? Normally it
was a full back right up the middle, some stocky guy.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
Yeah, there's only probably i would say thirty percent of
the team's use a fullback. Oh is that it? Yeah?
And it's because of that. But football is a very
pendulum sport. So because everyone's spreading guys out and there's smaller,
faster guys on the field. You'll see the teams that
won the Super Bowl that do very well last few years,

(44:04):
they've had a fullback because they combat it by getting big.
So they'll get a bigger guy on the field, bigger
guys on the field, and they'll run after those smaller guys,
and the fullback is in a lot of those systems
because they're playing the numbers games. It's the most like
it's a real strategic game. It's like really chess, it's
a big chess match. The whole time, it didn't seem like,

(44:27):
I don't know, it just seemed like this was a
pure dominance. Yeah, they don't see this now.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
All the games are twenty five, twenty four, you know,
there's no blowouts, Like we're like this.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
Oh well, a lot of times because of back in
these days in the eighties, they didn't have salary cap
or free agency was pretty new, I think I don't know.
I think it was early nineties early nineties yet, so
you couldn't even be a free agent. So the teams
could buy their teams and always pay their guy or
and didn't have a limit on how much they could spend.

(45:00):
So you saw a lot of these great historic teams
of the Niners and the Cowboys. The salary cop wasn't
put in until like the late nineties, which creates a
lot more parody for the game. Gotcha, let's name the
game and score the game. Is this the greatest game
of all time? Let's score it. Decimals are always encouraged.
We have a group of names that we came up with.

(45:22):
If you have a name that you call it, we
could do that. We have shuffling to the super Bowl,
the Fridge Game, beat down in the Big Easy, the
Bourbon Street blowout, or some what do you got it
as anything else? Or do you like one of those?
You know, I like shuffling to the super Bowl, shuffling
into the super Bowl. You can't forget the super Bowl.

(45:43):
Shuffled by the eighty five Bears. Let's score this game
stakes zero to ten decimals. Encourage. What are the stakes
of this Super Bowl twenty matchup? Oh? This is ten?
This is ten. This is ten because for him being
a Chicago sports fan, they hadn't sniffed the Super Bowl
since the Super Bowl era. I mean, they had a

(46:03):
bunch of championships in the forties, but it was the
last championship. Yeah. For me, I would say a nine.
You gotta, you gotta you know, understand, we've done super
Bowls where teams are going on there back to back
super Bowl you know the grading scheme. For me, this
is a nine series game seven world, you know this

(46:25):
this is nine is high jack out of nine point
one at nine point two. I feel like I went
too high on this. You did know, Yeah, no, you did. No,
that's okay.

Speaker 3 (46:35):
Most I would say ninety people put a ten on
stakes guests.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
Yeah, okay, So star power of this game? Who was
on the sideline, who were on the team's coaches, players?
The star power zero being like not no one that
you know, ten being Brady Manning. Brady Manning.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
Okay, if we were just going with the bears start everyone,
I would have to say, but since the New England's involved,
we got to bring it down to a seven point five.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
Couldn't agree more. There's a there's really start. Yeah, it's
not a lot of I mean, that's a very integrity
type score from a guest. For me, I'll go seven
point six. Okay, because uh Jack got a seven, nine
out of seven. Five are on the same page, all right.
The gameplay of the game. The gameplay is like how

(47:28):
the viewer thought of the game? Was it back and forth?
Was there interceptions? This like the gameplay this was a blowout,
but the gameplay zer to ten ten being unbelievably to watch.

Speaker 1 (47:41):
Yeah, I mean, I don't think this was a nail
bier by any means. So I'm gonna go gameplay five
point four, five to four, I'm gonna go blowout. It's
still it's still a seven. It's still a seven.

Speaker 3 (47:57):
Jack got a two point zero out of five point
zero because the has had a great game, so half
of them was really good.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
All right, let's great, And now we do the name
of the game. We grade the name of the game.
This is shuffling into the Super Bowl. Zero to ten,
ten being cultural impact. I mean, we all we're talking
about this game forty years down the road, eighty five
Bears eighty five Bears.

Speaker 1 (48:20):
I feel like you are influencing my vote.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
Good. That's how I try to I do that.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
And since you did that, I'm going to change my
score to a eight point five.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
I like that. I like that for the eighty five
Bears eighty five I'm gonna go with an eight point
six because I was born in nineteen eighty six.

Speaker 3 (48:45):
Jack out of six point one, I had a seven
point one. That puts us at.

Speaker 2 (48:51):
Seven three five. Where is that in the games five
of all time? Here? That puts us our new, our
new seventy fifth. Uh, it's just behind the twenty fourteen
VCS National Championship Aubert versus FSU we did with Burt Kreischer,
and just ahead of Week seven twenty twenty NFL season,
it was the whole week we did with Scott Hansen

(49:13):
in the red zone. Can I see the number one? Absolutely?
Oh yeah, you're gonna You're gonna catch them. You're gonna
love this.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
Falcons and Patriots wow evermore? Yeah, a lot of Patriots on.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
We talk about played a lot of league games. I
actually give the worst scores on those. Yeah, that's the guest.
Jack the producer really pumps the tires on Patriots games.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
Okay, yeah, no, I've said, yeah, they're they're Patriots. That's
three out of twenty five, no, four, four out of
twenty five. Yeah, well you know, I don't. It's fine, listen,
that's fine. You know, it's you gotta go people what
they shot. It's your show, the people what they want. Idiot,
we miss anything on this, Sebastian, I don't think we

(50:01):
I think we covered it all. I think yeah, I
think we got it all.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
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got it, you got it Sebastian Manescalco It Ain't Right.
Tickets are available go to sebastianlive dot com. He also
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Sebastian Show, new episodes every Tuesday. Where do we find that?

Speaker 1 (50:30):
That is on Apple, Spotify, wherever you find your podcast,
which I still don't know how this works, like, where
do we find that?

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Like you can find this? Is it exclusive to one platform?
Your show. No, you can find on everything. Okay, so every.

Speaker 3 (50:47):
Format everywhere anywhere, YouTube.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
Instagram, Snapchat. We're on Discord now too, Discord. Is that
a new one. It's a messaging system though I wasn't
aware of that. Write that down, Discord. Thank you so
much for coming on, bro, thanks for having me.

Speaker 3 (51:05):
So as we know, audience, we like to put cool
stuff on our wall back there and we say, oh,
it's really Julian's wall.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
So I mean we me and Jack kind of put
our heads together, but we need something new. We gotta
refresh it up. Got a new a new thing for
that time. So would you guys we went to together?
Yeah with the story. Yeah, they all have stories, millions
of things with stories. So that's right there for you.
Oh yeah, special delivery. Let's see what we got. Oh

(51:42):
and this isn't the Russian. Oh it's accurately. It's signed
by Drago.

Speaker 4 (51:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
Wow, he's a big guy, big boy. These are insane.
Look that we got you the if he dies, he dies,
If if he dies he dies, signed by Dolph. That's legendary.

Speaker 4 (52:01):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
Wow, he look so good in person. We need a
sly one now, we do. I don't know if that
one would have fit in our budget. Yeah, these are sick.
These are the real deal. Huh that's right. Wow, I
feel like a proud dad on Christmas morning with Tyler
here looking at our eBay real they really do have
it all. Oh that's so cool. They doesn't miss that.

(52:29):
Let's get on the show. He toss Rocky for him
in Sly the Expendables. What's your take on Russia? Now? Man?
That was awesome. Wish we wish we put it. I
don't know. We gotta we gotta figure like a way
to like do you frame it? Mop it? M Yeah.

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(53:20):
quick break. Well that was fun, dude, that's cool. A
lot of laptops, hey man, A lot of work over here,
A lot of works happened. He's funny to me.

Speaker 3 (53:32):
And we've been circling this game for a while. That's
nice to finally do it.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
How do you think he thought we were because this
is probably like his fourth promotion of the day. He's
like running around. That's why it was such a tight interview. Yeah,
I don't know. I think you appreciate you got him
and got him out. You did a great job with timing.
We got everything we needed to hit. That was good.
Although there's one thing. There's two things. We don't get
him out rushmore. But I didn't know if he Yeah,

(53:57):
he seemed like he only knew football really and he
he would have thrown a couple of Blackhawks. Actually, I
bet I wanted to get into like he didn't have
time for it. He didn't have time. And I think
there's two things I want to mention. He's a funny
motherfucker though, like his his type of he's so funny,
like his story. That's why I've always liked him because
a lot of his thinking, like his ship. I think

(54:19):
like that, like when he always always fucking old bro
or like the dad stuff. He always has good stories
about his family and like little things of isms of
the family. And he uses his hands. You see him
start using the hand. Yeah, did I go to Italian
on him?

Speaker 4 (54:35):
No?

Speaker 2 (54:35):
I think it's okay, you can do. I thought the
Mario Andretti. Who does he say, Mario Andretti? Uh, two
things about this in a race car with Sir Mario Andretti,
isn't Is that what that one is? I've been in
a rape me and me and me and Andretti. He's
a fucking cool dude, man, Mario, dude, he was so cool.

(54:58):
We went in the Indy car together, the two man
car and Long Beach that's the and we were driving.
He was hitting them turns like, yeah, Buddy, he's and
he's just a Italians are smooth. He's funny. They're smooth.

Speaker 3 (55:10):
Two things from their chill and wanted to bring up that.
I don't think I mentioned. Both Buddy Ryan and Mike
Dicka got carried off the field.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
I know I remember that. Yeah. And then So this
game was huge in the proliferation of the prop bet
prop bet because Refrigerator Perry had scored two touchdowns this season.
Now where you getting the prop bet back in nineteen
eighty five. You're not going to make fuel dot Com
in the draft Kings in Vegas.

Speaker 3 (55:36):
So they had it in Vegas so you could bet
on if he would score touchdown or not.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
Had pretty crazy all the bookies illegally were taking this
prop too. Probably no, I mean they got out for
me to say guy in Chicago, guy in the Manhattan.

Speaker 3 (55:50):
So the touchdown for refrigerator Perry caused Vegas hundreds of
thousands of dollars cost them because no one believe they
would actually run that play in the super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
So it's kind of like the Born of the Star,
just like millions of bucks. Now, yeah, yeah, should we? Uh?
May you get into this chill zone. Let's get into
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Speaker 3 (56:21):
Oh so it's been a minute, so we're gonna hit
the uh, the chills, the chill zone, the chill line
for number.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
Four four zero. We also pulled some questions from discord too,
so you want to get into it, let's get into it.
Let's take some questions. Baby.

Speaker 5 (56:39):
Hello. Okay, so obviously we all know that you went
to college in Kent, Ohio. So I want to know
what is your favorite thing about the Midwest or do
you have a list of your top five favorite Midwestern things.
You know what, just do a Mount Rushmore because y'all
do that all the time. So what's your Mount Rushmore

(57:01):
of Midwestern things that you really really like? I mean,
if you have something, you probably do. I mean I
would hope you do.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
And that's all.

Speaker 5 (57:10):
Okay, bye.

Speaker 2 (57:13):
This is clearly from the Midwest. I guess Mount Rushmore
of Midwestern things. Mount Rushmore, this niceness count. People are
on it. People are people you just you're gonna have to.
People are Mount Rushmore of Ohio because people of Ohio
are really like genuinely cool people, like nice people. You know,

(57:37):
they're they're sweet people. I've met so many unbelievable people
in that region that don't want to you know, like
they're just kind, genuine so people. I would put, uh,
Swinson Burger Alleyboy Burger up there. Uh So we got

(57:58):
people Swinson Berger, and you got football, football, football, Dick Stadium.
Football Dick Stadium was our our name, d I X DIX.
I'm sure no one never made any jokes about that,
oh my god. Yeah. And then also like the weather

(58:22):
was crazy, but it's like the part of it the
weather seasons. When it's good, it's good when it's bad,
it's bad.

Speaker 4 (58:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
It was always like when there were sunny days like
in the human like. It just was my first time
being in humidity. It's my first time. It's like seeing
snow and living in snow and like a lot of snow.
We had a huge we had a like a three
foot day once they canceled all classes and stuff like

(58:52):
the cold. You could I mean you could say Great Lakes,
the Great Lakes, well we get the lake effects snow
we were. We were near Lake Urie, Cedar Point, Cedar
points up there, Cedar points up there. We hit used
to go that in the uh the summer, and it's
blistering hot hot up there. It gets hot. It ain't

(59:12):
South Teas because we went and played Louisiana Lafayette one
year and it was fucking raging hot down there. They
were the raging king Jins. But that was But I
would say the Peopleson's, Sweenson's football, football and weather and
weather all hell, yeah, that's a hell of a list.
Rockney's it's like their chain out there. We used to

(59:33):
go Rockneys and they put it was the first time
I was ever exposed to people putting vinegar on there.
On their the red vinegar on their fries. Sometimes I
like malt vinegar. That's what I'm wondering. What your favorite
team was to play? My favorite team to play? I
think it changed periodically for a while. You loved playing

(59:55):
the Ravens because it was like they were they meant
there was there was meaning behind in those games, either
if it was regular season or if it was postseason,
you know what I mean. It always had some kind
of yeah, you're playing for something something. I always loved
playing Indie Indy, Yeah, yeah, just because just like them. Yeah,

(01:00:16):
I remember losing to them in that nine and when
it was Peyton versus Brady, and there was like a
huge rivalry between Indie Pats. Before I got there, they
used to be in the same division and in the
same division, and so then you know, once Peyton left,
we still you know, there was still something there. Andrew Luck,

(01:00:37):
he was He's always good. I loved playing Uh. I
loved playing the Jets just because there was anytime Boston,
New York there's heat, you know what I mean, people
people around town are buzzing more because it's you know
what I mean, the rivalry, it's just and and and
we had so much. Whatever we had with you know,

(01:01:01):
the Belichick stuff, it was always clear that he never
liked playing them. He never liked So you feed off
of that, You feed off of that. And then what
I thought this question was is, so let's just answer
because it's a good one. Who's your favorite team to
watch right now? That's not the Patriots, that's not the Patriots?
And why is it the Chargers? I like watching the

(01:01:23):
Chiefs man. Yeah, they just do it right. I like
what I just their defense is tight, they play solid defense.
I love how Spags calls defense and there's just you know,
I'm just always intrigued to see how they're trying to
win the game that game, well you know what I mean,
how they're adapting. What are they what do they see

(01:01:44):
defense or the offense that makes them play differently, Like
how is Patrick what's he gonna do to win the game?
As far are they going to run it? Like this
last week whenever you know, it was the Monday night
who or who they? Or this game against the Lions?

(01:02:04):
The Lions, Yeah, you know, like they they ran they
were starting. You started to see Pachaco run the gate
the ball the way he used to, and there and
there was a there was like a running play where
Hunt lit up one of their safeties and they were
getting good run game. It wasn't like they blew up
the box score with the run game, but they were
starting it. And then you know Patrick, and there was

(01:02:26):
a couple of plays that he made that were awesome
and I just love watching him play. So you're not tired.
I like Chiefs. You know, you're not tired of the Chiefs.
You just like to see how they're died. I like
watching I like watching good football teams, like I tried,
like when you said the Chargers, I try to like
to watch them, but they're so banged up. It makes
me with their line, yeah, it makes me mad that

(01:02:48):
why are they hurt? The Chargers. I love watching Justin
Herbert that he had probably the top two throw him
and Mahomes on the one where the guy swinging around
him and he found McConkie and then they got you know,
they got the twenty three yards and they kick the
field goal. Like I just every time, I'm always intrigued
to see if they're getting the pieces around Justin Herbert,
which they don't have right now. On the offensive line.

(01:03:11):
They got you know, but they're battling. They're four and two,
so I like watching them too. I like watching the
Bills too though, drop you know, yeah, but I get
I get really mad watch It's just their defense is
a little light. I've been saying it. Yeah, I've been
saying it. Defense is light. That's gonna that's problems, Like,

(01:03:34):
I don't know, I'll get into it. Hey, So I've
got a question.

Speaker 5 (01:03:38):
When Matt White was at the Duncan house, did you
guys figure out what he took when you left?

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
Thanks five, Not yet, but the owners will give us
a payroll to duck from the uh down payment or
whatever we had to do the I think you just
took a bunch of dunks. But that's okay. We had plenty. No,
but there's something. We'll figure it out. I'm just happy

(01:04:06):
he didn't take the wheel. My TV was malfunctioning like
a week after after from malware. After he came to
the house, and I had my tech people like look
at like all the USB's and like, yo, check out everything.
I know Matt like may have fucked something up. My
shit was turning on randomly and stuff. Huh. All right,

(01:04:29):
here's a discord question. From Gim Cognito. Kim Cognito, it's
been years since your Kent State days, returning to the
school after a few or a few years ago to
graduate with your bachelors. What is your relationship with the
school like now and do you ever see yourself returning
there for vents or talks or anything in the future.
I think my relationship is great with Kent. They're struggling

(01:04:52):
right now in football and right now with like the
NIL it's hard for you know, mid majors, gouls, mid
major d ones to compete and so like it's almost
like what do you know? But I I I would
love to go and do some talks out there or
do something for Ken if you just sell it out.

(01:05:14):
We should do some shows there. We should. Yeah, we
should bring a game's names to Ohio. The Max Center.
The Max centers there, not Dick's Dix Arena. No Max
Center is the basketball gym. Okay, all right, I mean
can't say did just I saw I saw Oar there

(01:05:36):
at the Max Center when I was in college. I
saw them at the Spac Sarahtoga performing the Arts Center.
I forgot their songs, but people know how I loved them. Yeah.
A couple more here.

Speaker 3 (01:05:50):
This one is from Ryleu two one one, another one
from Discord. What's a game from any sport or era
that you just randomly think about a lot? I guess
you could call it your Roman Empire game. I don't
know why I think about this game from Pop Worner.
It was like when I was on junior midgets or something,

(01:06:13):
which was like thirteen or no, was it it was
nineteen ninety seven maybe.

Speaker 2 (01:06:23):
It was. There's like a ring around the field for
the track. It was cement ring and I hit my
forearm on it and I burnt. I got an infection
and blew up my burst as sack. When I was
like thirteen or eleven. I always think about that. It
was in Santa Clara. I don't know why. I like that.

(01:06:44):
We should start asking people this, like what's their Roman
Empire game? But I think about the Roman Empire a lot.
Cool you were just at Rome. I was just in Rome.
And Okay, another one. I think this has been covered before,
but mind's the Boise State Oklahoma game for yes, the
ball I think.

Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
Five or seven ft seven current athlete. This is from
Sweet t O three current athlete. You would like to
share a cold Cores.

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
Light with Jackson Smith and Jigba. Okay, I want to
see what he's about. Okay, I love his game. He
just balled out. I've been seeing it from day one. Yeah,
he leads the league in receiving ards right now, I
just see smooth. He went to se right or Ohio
State State. Yeah, I went to Ohio State, that Seahawks team.
And he's got like I heard, there's some there's some

(01:07:34):
something about his name. I just heard I will. I'd
like to see what he was about. Okay, I like that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:42):
Uh, and you know, let's do one more. I'm from
rachel c. I know you love plants. So what are
your favorite plants and or flowers? Oh, plants, I loved.
I love Japanese maples, you got. I have a couple.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
I have a dwarfed umbrella Japanese maple. When they have
a traditional Japanese maple, it's little tree. Please, huh, it's
little tree. They're called little trees. Oh, I love I
love my what are they my star jasmines? I love
those for like two weeks jasmine ruin, but they die

(01:08:24):
after two weeks and then they're not But they have
great smell for like spring, I like, uh, I love
redwood trees. It's because it's just it's it's do you
like the coastal redwood or the sequoia. I like the sequoia,
the big ones, the fat, the volumeless ones. Not that
I like all of them really, but but it's more
of like symbol symbolism for me. You know, I'm from there.

(01:08:48):
I grew up being around them, and I always appreciated
them when I was a kid, Like I was always
fascinated with the bark how yeah, yeah, you know, and
I always remember we always had like the outdoor heads
and ship where you go for a week, and like
we had a couple. Like there's rubbed trees everywhere where
I grew up, not like the big, big ones, but yeah,
you know, I grew up in Rowood City, So those

(01:09:09):
are the taller ones. They're the taller ones. Yeah, CLEAs
are the big big one. They're the they're the biggest
trees on earth by volume. You see that one on
the tallest Yeah, when they keep it secret. Huh, there's
one that they keep secret. It's the tallest tree on Earth.

Speaker 3 (01:09:24):
Yeah, and where it is people know where it is,
but they won't tell the rest of the world.

Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
There's like somewhere in the area. It's north.

Speaker 3 (01:09:31):
I think it's around like Redwood National Park, north of
the Bay.

Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
It's called something that starts in like central California. Tallest
tree on Earth. I like that ship. It's got a name. Oh,
it's called Hyperion. Uh. It's in the coast.

Speaker 3 (01:09:48):
It's coastal Redwood in California, which is the world's tallest
known tree, measured at three hundred and eighty feet uh
in twenty nineteen.

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
Location undisclosed. I don't want people going to it. They
don't want people going to it. But it's in the
Redword National You can just go on like Google Maps
and probably find it, or just like get like a helicopter.
You can literally go on like it's the one way
you can go look at you can go look at
our like on Google's map. You could see like our
air defense systems in like area fifty four, Area fifty four.

(01:10:20):
Is that the fifty one or whatever? That's the even
more secret one. But we can't find this damn tree. Yeah, here,
I'll find this tree two seconds two seconds, chat GBT,
what a tree? Where's that tall fucking tree? Or that
tall tree. Uh cool, there you go. Well that was

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You know you're cool. This is the real quick just
that's the picture of it. Yeah, there it is. That's sick.
You can't find that, dude. You see it from my parents' house.

(01:11:03):
You can see from your parents falcony. God, what a game.
Thanks again to Sebastian Escalco. Nailed it. I know, but
I said it. I felt like you just need a confidence.
You had it right, but you'd like ebb Manescalco all
r right this up. I got a call two minutes.
Thanks again to Sebastian man Escalco. That's been another episode

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