Paul Walter Hauser is in studio! The outstanding actor, wrestler, and star of The Luckiest Man in America is with us to relive a classic ladder match: The 2014 Intercontinental Championship between Luke Harper and Dolph Ziggler. Paul joins us on the couch (02:35). We head back to December of 2014 (40:22). We profile each wrestler (53:08). We dive into the match (01:05:32). We score it (01:22:41). We hit The Chill Zone presented by Coors Light.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You started wrestling recently, I think in the last couple
of years. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I have my first match in November twenty twenty three.
It was for a charity event. I thought I was
just going to sign autographs and like take selfies with
kids and stuff. I was just trying to help out,
and then dude just asked me do you want to
be in a match? And I'm like, wow, Sammy Callahan,
a wrestler I admire, is giving me an opportunity to
have a match on a show that has Rond De
Rousi and Jacob Fatu and John Moxley. Like this is
(00:25):
kind of special. I'm gonna say yes. So I took
some classes and got in the ring, and you know,
a lot of people can say what they want, but
I showed that match to Hall of famers and they're
all saying the same thing. They're like, that's your first match.
I was like yeah. They're like, if you got in
shape and wanted to do this, and we already know
you can act and talk on a microphone, They're like,
you could do this thing if you want to. And
(00:47):
I'm like, well, you shouldn't have said that.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Welcome to Games with Names. I'm Julian Edelman. They're Jack
and Kyler, and we are on a mission to find
the greatest game of all time. And on today's episode,
we are covering the twenty fourteen Intercontinental Championship match with
Emmy and Golden Globe Award winner, the Star and main
(01:11):
lead of the Luckiest Man in America and pro wrestler
Paul Walter Hauser. And we get into talking bonding with
John hamm over macho Man, Randy Savage memes.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
John Ham will randomly text me at like midnight and
it'll be a Randy Savac promoe.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
A big life moment with Walton Goggins.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Just kind of gave me like an emotional pep talk
that he didn't owe me at all. Yeah, and it
was the sweetest thing in it met the world to meet.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Speaking of crime when he didn't think you were gonna cry.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Jeez, the four to one one on his jump into
professional wrestling.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Straight jacket style flatliner known as the House Russ.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
You made your own move. That's sick. And at the end,
Jack cooked up a very special chill zone presented by Cores.
You gotta stick around to the end. Let's go, Let's
go Games with names of production of iHeartRadio, December fourteenth,
twenty fourteen, Quicken Loans Arena, Cleveland, Ohio.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Tables and ladders and chairs. O, my, this is the
boots and ladders match.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Welcome to Games with Names. Today we are gonna be
talking and looking at a very special match between Dolf
Ziggler and Luke Harper in the twenty fourteen Intercontinental Title
Match TLC with legendary actor Paul Walter Houser here in
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the Nut Studio, I have the first question of the day.
In one sentence, Why did you pick this match?
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (03:02):
I'm not good with one sentence, but I will try
my darnedest. I chose this match because it is exemplary
of the things I most admire about wrestling and entertainment
at large.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Yeah, maybe our best one sentence and best one sentence
in the history of the show.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
And I barely graduated.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
It took me nineteen years to get my degree.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
A lot of people go to college for seven years. Yeah,
they're called doctors. Yeah I heard that all the time quote,
but it wasn't the case. Is this the greatest match
of all time? I won't say that. No, No, I
think the greatest match of all time from my limited
viewpoint would be.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Ricky Steamboat versus.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Randy Savage, also an American all title match, I believe
from WrestleMania three fuck Yes Overdome.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Oh yeah, and that I correct me if I'm wrong, Paul,
But that guy one of the best promo cuts ever.
Cut coffee in the big time, come the big coffee
in the big time.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Here the cream Savage also uh to sport athlete. Let's
him dude, legitimately play baseball.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Like was a beast he they called. That's where he
got his nickname macho man because they put that sign
over there, right, and he said he'd always hit two
hundred feet over the sign. That's how strong you.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Oh you are talking our language, man. He is a
big part of our pantheon of heroes here.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Well, the more I find out about him, the more
I love the guy. And as I can relate to
his flaws more like hul cog and I can't really
relate to his flaws, but I can relate to Savage
as flaws of Like he got a bit jealous, he
was a bit territorial, he had a temper. I'm like, yeah,
I've done all.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Those yeah, no, I we talk about all the time.
I get in a hoole on social media, depending on
which one I am of, at least thirty five minutes
a week of macho man Randy Savage content.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
John Ham will randomly text me at like midnight, and
I know he's just like enjoying a drink, sitting in
better or something, and it'll be a Randy Savage promo
and it's like, there's something about dudes watching like Savage promos.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
It's in the promos.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
I love watching him when he's in the Swiss help
skiing in a fucking it is goddamn underwear. I like
watching him when he's in Afghanistan visiting the troops, like
he is macho man everywhere in the goddamn world. He
makes me so happy, and people look at him when
he's in a different country like these dumb ass American.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
And I fucking I'm like, oh my god, I love it. Little.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
They know that was like the height of Americans looking cool.
Now we look like fucking more sing our best guy.
We used to look dope, man. We were very confident
about our nineteen eighties wrestlers.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Not anymore, but uh, wrestling sports fan where did this
sports fandom come what? And do you are you a
fan of other sports or you just straight wrestle? Yes.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
So growing up, my dad it was a die hard
MLB fan. He you know, worked a county stadium in
Milwaukee and he you know, die hard Brewers. But he
was born in Elgin, Illinois, who was also like closet
and Cubs fan Ernie Banks was like his guy. So
growing up we played Strato Maatic, that baseball board game. Uh,
(06:31):
and that was like a big deal for us. But baseball,
when you're a kid, it takes a special kind of
kid to really appreciate baseball because it is this one
of the slower sports, just the pacing. Now that I'm
an adult, I freaking love watching baseball. I'll give me
a five hour game in the afternoon on WGN, you know, awesome.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Only two and a half now with the pitch count.
But oh yeah, that's the thing, you know what, And
that hurt me the most for exactly what you said,
Because when you were a young kid and you got
to go to a game maybe on a Tuesday night, yeah,
and if it went into extra innings, you got home
at like eleven o'clock maybe your mom said you didn't
have to go to school because she was tired from
yeah driving, that's so yeah. Yeah to the baseball that
(07:12):
I love, so relatable.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Yeah, your dad's going through the McDonald's drive throughout eleven fifteen. Yeah,
I'm like, who am I? Yeah, this is my hangover.
So I was a baseball fan in general, root for
the Tigers. Cecil Fielder was my guy. And then we
got really deep into the Green Bay Packers in like
ninety four ninety five because we had a family friend
(07:34):
who just kind of indoctrinated us. It was kind of
like one of those scientologists who's like, let's have a conversation,
Like we we had like that conversation with a Packer fan,
and we we would go to his house for all
the games, and he was a good host, you know,
putting out his the chip dip and the barbecue and that.
Like it was such a vibe. You know, this guy
had like his man cave to watch Packer games. Shout
(07:58):
out to Dave Bergan who's probably in heaven and doesn't
give a shit about the Packers anymore.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Watching win Super Bowl the time right now in heaven.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Bart Starman is Bartstar dead. I just assumed, yes, he
was quite old.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
He's pretty old from everything you just said right there,
My mind instantly went to you being an actor and
the scientology question. Has someone asked you to be part
of scientology yet?
Speaker 2 (08:20):
No?
Speaker 1 (08:20):
No.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
When when I've walked by the centers and they've tried
to give me stuff or talk to me, I just
I just said no, thanks, man, I'm a Jesus guy.
And then they're like, well, that's okay, some of us
are Jesus kind. I'm like, nah, because because my whole
thing is and God bless him, dude, but it's not
like my religion is super normal. I believe a guy
rose from the dead. Like I can't make fun of
them that much. But but it is funny how like
(08:44):
some people are like being vegans easy now It's like, nah,
you're just like, this is part of your sales pitch, homie.
You got you've been You've been reading up a PDF
privately in your bathroom on your phone that tells you
what to say like that. It's not the same thing.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
I disagree, not a pdf. There's scrolling TikTok, and that's
what they're learning TikTok.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yeah, Well there you go, yeah, no, but I very
much Baseball Packers. Uh, Michael Jordan was you know, it
went Jesus then Michael Jordan. So like Bulls fan, I
didn't come into my own identity of choosing my own
sports teams until like after high school. It was like, Okay,
I'm moving to LA to become an actor. I'm going
(09:28):
to become a Dodger fan. I like committed to Dodgers. Also,
I got to see Kershaw playing the minor leagues because
like he was part of the Great Lakes Loons, which
was like in Midland, Michigan. So like I grew up
going to minor league games, and then those guys would
get sent by Tommy Lasorda to the Dodgers and you
were like, oh man, like it.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Felt you had more of a connection, more of a.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Connection, you know. And uh and then I still root
for the Packers, but it just got messy, like Farv
kind of God bless him. He just kind of x
amount of things where end of his career, post career,
it's like a stealing from people isn't the most mad
chill thing to do? Uh and and then uh and
(10:11):
then Rogers. He's just been on such a public journey.
I feel like I feel like Roger if Rogers wasn't
a nineties quarterback, he would have had a much easier
better time. But being in the age of like information spotlight,
Yeah that I feel like that really dicked him over.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
I just happen to play with the psychopath at quarterback, Yeah,
who all he cared about was fucking winning football games
and when when he's.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
The Michael Jordan effect though Brady is like Jordan. I
love FARVN Rogers gameplay, but they're not. They're not. They
don't have the Jordan mindset.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
I know, But I just I get so mad because
he is that. He is that talented with the arm.
His arm is spectacular and he can still throw. It's
just the stupid antics like some of that stuff like
and I don't even think he means to do it.
I think he's just one of those guys that is
just like.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
He became evolved emotionally midway through his career, which by
the way, is a wonderful thing, but it does affect
the career if you let it. And for him, it
was like I do feel an outside of perspective, I
don't know the guy. I don't mean I met him once.
We did an SP's sketch and I had a blast.
He was super nice to me. But having said that,
(11:25):
I think like you can let your emotional journey get
in the way of whatever the journey is on the field,
and if you're more concerned about self care than the
care of your team, that's going to be an issue.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Well yeah, I mean at that position, specific position, specifically specifically.
That's the I've heard you talk about the pressures of
a lead, a starring role to a different role.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Tanya, completely different from Luckiest Man in America or Blackbird or.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Whatever, because when you're the star every day everyone's looking
at you right or when you're starting you know what
I mean said that, I remember you saying the pressures
of feeling like you had to be on it all.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Let's let's really put it in perspective with the Rogers
thing of like emotionality and your duty at work. You know,
Jim Carrey famously did that Andy Kaufman movie Man, but
a lot of people say alienated them, made him feel uncomfortable,
was over the top, was unreliable, and it's like I'm
attached to play Chris Farley in a bio movie. There's
(12:28):
no way in hell I am walking onto that set
and letting my process dictate the emotional environment for everyone else.
That's I think preposterous. You have to be a good
enough actor to be able to show up and be
like I can still do my process while being a
mensch and making people feel seen and being a leader.
(12:50):
To me that those are not Yeah, I just don't
think it's that hard. And that doesn't mean I'm better
than anyone. It just means I have a little bit
of cognizance and awareness of the people around me.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
I think, yeah, you got it.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
You got to. When you're in a leadership role.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
I think yeah, And that's how I feel, you know so.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
But but you know, the Michael Jordan thing is interesting too,
where it's like he cared so much about the team,
he gave so much to that team and the organization
of the players, But at the same time, it was
the Hymn show, it was the Jordan show. And it's like,
is that by proxy of his greatness or by proxy
of his attitudinal stance and his emotionality. I wonder about
(13:31):
that because different players will say different things. The legal parts,
you know, they'll say Josean on a Sunday and critsify
him on a Friday.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Certain players will say certain things, but not one player
will say he didn't give his everything. And if you're
a if you're a competition guy, which if you're in
this form of business, that's what you are, you compete
for a living, then you'll never have anything wrong with that.
He can be an asshole, he can be whatever is
(14:00):
because he's given his absolute everything that he feels is
his possible mindset to make this team better.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
I'm more like Rodman, where it's like I'm gonna go
wrestle a wrestling match and get hit with a chair
and I'm still gonna show up on set and be fine. Yeah,
I'm obsessed with Dennis Robin. That's like my favorite player
of all time.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
Everyone exciting for that movie coming out.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
It was supposed to happen with my buddies Chris Miller
and Phil Lord. They were gonna make the Rodman movie.
It was like forty eight hours in Vegas and they
attached Jonathan Majors to play him. I hope that still
happens somehow. That would be a great movie. That'd be fun,
it'd be sick that'd be fun sports movie meets like
a rack as comedy like that's.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
It reminds me of Get Him to the Greek very much,
Dennis Robin, Get.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Him to the Greek meets yeah, fill in the blank
basketball movie.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Yeah no, Chris Farley, Wait when you said with with
with Jim Carrey and alienating people, now, isn't didn't he
go full method for that whole thing?
Speaker 2 (15:00):
That was my understanding from watching the Netflix documentary about
on the topic.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Did the guy that he played what's his name, Andy Koff?
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Andy Koff?
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Did he was he alienating with.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
His everybody that was whole?
Speaker 1 (15:13):
That's probably That's that's how crazy genius I think, fucking
because some guys are like that. I think that's what
I've heard. I don't know were their methods so much
like Dan Like we were talking about Daniel Lewis. Yeah,
how he's crazy method? You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (15:26):
I have the funniest story about Daniel day Lewis secondhand
because I've never worked with him and met him, But
I worked with David Stretharron on this movie Luckiest Man
in America.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
He plays Bill Carruthers, like the guy who's the head
of the.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Show, and Stratharn was in Lincoln, and you know, Lincoln
had a sprawling ensemble of all these dope actors who
you know, they have twelve lines, but they're like Spielberg
and Daniel day Lewis like I would serve sandwiches here
and uh and Sterra Darren is doing this big table
scene where I think it's where Lincoln is like when
(15:58):
he's end slavery now now or whatever that thing is,
And well, I just made it sound very stupid. It's
a powerful moment. I'm an idiot. Stratzeran says. Hal Halbrook,
classic actor is no longer with us. The brilliant Hell
Halbrook is coming to set, and everyone's excited too because
(16:18):
they're like, man, Hel Halbrook, classic actor. It's like you know,
Jack Lemon status or whatever. And Halbrook shows up and
as he sits down, Daniel day Lewis, who's so in
character but wants to pay respects to Hell, is saying
to him as if he's talking to the politician or dignitary,
like I've admired your work from Afar for a very
(16:41):
long time. Like I'm talking to you about your acting career,
but I'm pretending it's we're talking about our positions in
the way and gives like a really thoughtful compliment to him,
and everybody is watching it like whoa. Even Daniel day
Lewis has given this guy's props and is going out
of his way but doing it in the covert character
of sense. And then when he done with his little
mini speech, Hal Hallbrook goes, oh, well, I just love
(17:04):
doing the fucking wheelchair movie talking about his Oscar winning
performance at my Left Foot and went told me the story. Dude,
I lost my mind laughing. I thought it was so funny,
Like he didn't pick up on it or even care.
He was just like, oh, I'm going to say something
back to you.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Has there ever been a set that you walked on
like we're you were intimidated by an actor?
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Oh? God, yeah every time.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
But who is like the biggest actor that you were in?
Because I remember the first day for me, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
I want to hear this. I'm curious.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
So live my rookie year in our first like mini camp.
We're calling plays and the team's coming together rookies and veterans.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Yeah, I roll.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Up in there and they put in a personnel group
four wide, so it's me, Wes Welker, Randy Moss, Joey Galloway,
Tom Brady at quarterback. I'm twenty two years old going
in there like, oh my god, I'm gonna shit my
fucking pants. I hope I don't fuck up my play.
I hope I get to my right depth. I hope
I get I hope I see the side of just whatever.
(18:16):
Like I was intimidating because I didn't want to fuck
up their funk because I watched them before me and
it looked like a fucking just It just looked like
the professionals way to look. It looked like pro a one.
These guys were hitting balls. It just everything was a methodical,
like a machine. And I went in there. I was
like so nervous to now, I didn't want to fuck
(18:36):
up the machine. Who is that actor for a scene
or a movie that you rolled into that was like,
I don't want to fuck up this role or this scene.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
It's hard to choose one because they come in different ways.
Like my first film was called Virginia. It had all
these brilliant people on it, and one of them was
Ed Harris and Ed Harris, it was tough to I
acted with him and Jennifer Connolly in a couple of scenes,
and it was tough to work with them, not because
they were difficult, but because I've spent my whole life
watching them. So it's like I have to take myself
(19:07):
out of being the viewer and say, you're you are
now being viewed, and like you have to get over
that in your head a little bit, because you know,
I almost forgot my dialogue because I was just thinking, like,
I'm watching their performance because they're so they're so good,
They're so effortlessly good that you're kind of like getting
drawn in. You're like, I'm not a video village. This
(19:28):
is not my job. I have to jump in in
a second.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Broken the rental spot for the people that don't.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Know, No, it's it's when you're watching like the.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Oh there was a there was a movie rental spot
at my in my hometown called video Village. I didn't
know if it was a change that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
No, that's awesome, Yeah I know. I I shout out
to video Village. I wish you were still there. VV.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Our video village is right here.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
No, video village being like the place where they're watching
it all go down. But I did Troopers too. I
had a small part, but you have to understand, Supertroopers
is one of my ten favorite comedies of the entire
lineage of comedy. It's one of my favorites of all times.
And I mean literally. I used to work at Missus
Fields in the mall. I skipped school to see Supertroopers
(20:16):
during the day with my brother Matt, And within weeks
when I'm working at Missus Fields, I'm doing the meow
game that they do to Jim Gaffigan. I'm like, Okay,
you wanna have done of cookies? Meow? Which one did
you want me? And I'm just like doing it, like
seeing how many I can fit in. Like so the
day I go in to shoot super Troopers, I am
in my bed and I have a panic attack and
(20:38):
I'm crying and I'm literally like reading the Bible and praying,
trying to get in a good headspace because I'm like,
the first movie's perfect, I'm gonna be one of the
people that have set up, you know, yeah, And I
was like so scared and then I got there and
it went fine. But like there is emotional pressure based
on how big of a as they say in the
(20:59):
resting industry, how big of a mark you are for
the person. Now, I've gotten better over the years, now
like now, And once again this has to do with
the match that I chose. You know, Dolph Ziggler and
Luke Harper are not the two biggest wrestlers of all time.
Most people are like the match I'm choosing is Andre
and Hogan are Rick Flair and Steamboat. But for me,
(21:21):
like I am very much attracted to and magnetized to
the lesser known people that do an incredible job. And
and I was always that way, like Peter Sarsguard, Michael Shannon,
Sam Rockwell. I'm fascinated by those guys and I'm more
intimidated by them than a Brad Pitt Denzel Washington, just
(21:42):
because I think it's harder to be that guy. And
maybe they would Denzel and Brad would disagree with me, probably,
but you know that's how I view it.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
I can see that too in our field of a
guy that has a reputation of being like a professional
first one in comes in, does his rehab, does his prehab,
gets his film, and goes to meetings.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Does this that.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Instead of the guy who's like the superstar, like that
like everyone is just famous, but like I'd be more
with my peers nervous around the professional guy than the
superstar guy, because you know what he's about.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
You know.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Where did this fandom of wrestling come from? Now you wrestle.
You started wrestling recently, I think in the last couple
of years. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
I had my first match November twenty twenty three. It
was for a charity event. I thought I was just
going to sign autographs and like take selfies with kids
and stuff. I was just trying to help out and
then dude just asked me, do you want to be
in a match? And I'm like, wow, Sammy Callahan, a
wrestler I admire, is giving me an opportunity to have
a match on a show that has Rond de Rousi
(22:51):
and Jacob Fatu and John Moxley. Like, this is kind
of special. I'm gonna I'm gonna say yes. So I
took some classes and got in the ring, and you know,
a lot of people can say what they want, but
I showed that match to Hall of famers and they're
all saying the same thing. They're like, that's your first match.
I was like yeah, They're like, if you got in
shape and wanted to do this, and we already know
you can act and talk in a microphone. They're like, you,
(23:13):
you could do this thing if you want to, And
I'm like, well, you shouldn't have said that, you know,
And I can't use the excuse on my wife anymore,
like not everything's gonna be a charity event, you know.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
So I got into it and just ingratiated myself and
took took bookings, and you can make a little bit
of money, you have a ton of fun, and it's
a calculated risk. I've always done my own stunts in
my movies. Ninety percent of them. I always do, unless
they literally have someone pull me aside and say, hey,
we talked to the insurance company.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
We're not gonna put you on the firework dead bro right.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
But I uh, but I I dude, I dreamt of
this stuff.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Yeah. I dreamt of getting to do a scene in
a Spike Lee film where I have to dive over
a rock because there's gunfire. Like that wasn't even in
the movie. I said a Spike I it was my
character do and he goes, I don't know, it's not
the script. I'm like, can I can I do something
like can I dive over that rock? And he was like,
can you clear it? And I was like yeah, So
(24:09):
they put some mats down and covered it with brush love.
I did like five in a row and you know,
hit it every time, and you know they the crew
clapped and Spike gave me a hug after it, and
it was like, you know, you you dream of those moments,
so wrestling all the more. The first time I saw
I was like four years old, hanging out with my
uncle watching a free pay per view called Clash of
(24:31):
the Champions. And you know, the first match I ever
saw was arn Anderson and Barry Wyndham versus Flying Brian
Pillman and l Gigante. And now I'm like wrestling brock Anderson,
arn Anderson's son in this company MLW, and it's like,
m dude, Like it's so full circle and so insane that.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
You know, it's like the perfect storm.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Though for you, I think in acting clearly a push acting.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Yeah, well, the better you do on the screen everything,
it's like anything you're that's your number one, that's your
main thing. Keep the main thing, the main thing, and
everything else would come. But like perfect Storm by the
whole wrestling situation. You were a kid, you loved wrestling.
You're clearly a performer. I mean I've watched in Blackbird,
(25:23):
like you know how to you know how to act.
Then you're a fucking actor, bro, Like you're a real actor,
so you know how to act. You love wrestling? Did
you play sport? I played sports.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
I just wasn't like I said, you jumped over rocks.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
So you're showing athleticism.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Right, I I was. I was like Farley where I
was like nimble. Yes I could. I could. I could
tear up a dance floor and kick over my head
and uh take bumps.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Viability, as Tom Brady would say, So you're ap pliable.
You put all those together. I mean, why aren't you wrestling?
You should be wrestling.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Yeah. It's also just you know Eric Bischoff of w
CW fame, he always talked about the buffet of wrestling. Yeah,
He's like, you know, you go to a buffet, you're
not eating every damn thing on the line. You're grabbing
the stuff you like. And it's like same with Saturday
Night Live. You can watch ninety minutes SNL and you
only like two sketches. But now you're quoting that sketch
with your friend. It's part of the fabric of pop culture.
(26:17):
So it's like wrestling is no different. I'm part of
the buffet. There are dudes who look at me and
they're like, I'm not eating that shit. But it's like, Okay,
that's fine, dude, But just know that there's a little
kid who loves Cruella the Disney movie I did, who
shows up and they've never had a celebrity of any
kind in their hometown because it's a small town and
they're getting a kick out of seeing me do a souplex.
(26:39):
They love it. So it's like it's okay, I don't
need to be liked by everybody, but I do have
to have a certain acumen. So I take those classes
with wrestlers and I brush up and I watch a
lot of tape.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Yeah you gotta watch tape.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
I also like, I lost thirty pounds in the last
two months. I got on Mateiro, which is like ozembic.
I like got on that, and I've been working out
and stuff, and like, I feel x.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
People are getting for bettering yourself.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Yeah no, that's the kind of hater ade. You just
can't believe it's even on the shelf. You don't even
look at it. I can't even look at it. As
G two, G two. We're healthy, now are you? It
says asked par tame and a couple of words I
can't pronounce.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
You can't either. I can't read.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
I can't read.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
It's loosely, loosely, loosely true. Take us through your development
of your persona wrestling well.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
I mean I really play myself right now. I'm literally
going as Paul Walter Hauser. And and you know, I
got a couple couple gimmicks of like, you know, merchant
stuff that I have. I have a headband because you know,
everybody loves Cobra kai and they look at me like
I'm sting ray. So I have a karate headband that
says wrestling is not fake. You're fake. I sell those
(27:50):
and stuff. But like, but I'm playing myself.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
That's a little mankind to you. It's still real to me,
damn it, little mankind.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
That's like, yeah, well, I I also do some stuff
he did, like I do I do a summersault sent
on off the apron, which I you know, I saw
mc foley do in late nineteen ninety two uh fighting sting.
He had this innovative reckless offense. So I pepper in
some of my favorite stuff from other wrestlers.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
How sure are you after a fucking match?
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Depends on the match. Yeah, I've I had a match
in Seattle for a company called DeFi and they've been
around for a while, very celebrated, like classy wrestling outfit
in Seattle. But I wrestled Joey Janella, who's like one
of the most dangerous dudes in the game. I mean
he made his reputation off these hardcore matches where he
like severed just and lost part of his finger and
(28:40):
stuff like crazy stuff.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Runny lot he's a running a lot of wrestling, running
a lot mer. He cut off his pinky what San
Francisco forty nine or safety legendary Hall of Fame safety
broke his finger in the middle of a regular season
game and said, cut it off. I'm still playing.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
He makes Lyle Alzado look like Mark we were talking
about the other week. I want to drop those names.
I just want to say Mark Tchimura and Lyles Lyles
Otto off off off the field. Also was in Ernest
Goes to Camp.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
He played the heavy I loved my favorite Ernest. I
saw you have a tattooed. My favorite Ernest was Ernest
Scared straight.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Scared stupid, Stupid Scared Straight would have been another president.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
He already did goes to jail. That one was always
like super creepy to me. I loved watching that one.
It was legitimately scary. The trolls.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
You were like, they're not fun, and the trolls kind
of had a snotty aesthetic to their skin and their face.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Now does John Cena kind of look like Ernest very much?
Speaker 2 (29:43):
So him and Simon Rex would definitely be in the
running to play Jim Varney, maybe any Andy Sandberg maybe.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Now, what's your finishing move in wrestling?
Speaker 2 (29:54):
I call it the house arrest and h h a
U s arrest, which Wahlberg made fun of me for
months over that name. I'd be like, ha us house
arrest and for Houser and he'd be like, wow, that
is so brilliant. Wow, just like he'd be like h
a U s right, and I'd be like, I hate
(30:15):
you God, I haven't got made fun of for that.
But it's a flat liner where you throw a guy
on their face and I Honestly, I play with like
these action figures and try moves out all the time,
and I kind of created this version of the move,
and I didn't realize it until I was hanging out
with Seth Rollins and Becky Lynch from w W. They
(30:37):
were just they were so, yeah, she's super cool. But
she I showed her the move and she goes, you, reckon,
anyone's done that? And I was like, I don't know
if anyone's done I do it, and she's like, you
might have made up a move, man, And I was
like thinking about it, and I'm like, it's like a
straight jacket style flat liner where you put their arms
(30:59):
behind their back can hit it. I don't know that
I have seen that. So it was cool that, like
this move, whether you want to make fun of it
or not.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Mark call Mark, come all, I'm never eating a Wallburgers
again unless I get a discount from knowing you.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
I had a moment where I was like, dude, that's
really tight that no matter what anybody thinks of the move,
it's like I kind of created it, and that's like
the coolest for me as a kid growing up. It's like,
that's so cool that maybe someday someone else will use
it who's way more athletic than me and looks awesome
doing it. But but yeah, to have your own move
is pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
One. It's so hard to come home with your own move.
I used to get so mad when Diamond Dallas Page
would do the the diamond Cutter and I look at Austin,
Steve Austin, I was like, that's the same fucking thing,
isn't it. It's the same move almost.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Yeah, you're falling instead of sitting on the stone. But
then it Randy Yorton did the RKO which is the
diamond similarities. And by and by the way, uh freaking
DDP learned the diamond cutter from what's the guy's name?
I think his name's A Steele, was it. There's some
guy named like a. It might have been Johnny Ace,
Johnny laureniis uh. He ended up being part of like
(32:14):
the Top Brass and w W and was one of
the Yeah no, but related to that guy, they're brothers,
that's which is yeah, so this would have been his uncle.
His uncle is who DDP got the diamond cutter from.
I think you used to do it in Japan and
it looked really lame, where like instead of like grabbing
(32:34):
the head and slamming down, it was like he grabbed
the head like lightly at waste level and just like
take three steps and fall with him. So like each
guy made it look cooler DDP and then Randy Orton
with the r KO geez.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
But you made your own move.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
That's fucking sick, really cool straight jacket style flatliner known
as the house arrest, which I'm eventually I'm gonna I
do want to reinvent myself and be more of a
character or I don't want to just be me the actor.
So whenever that happens, yeah, maybe there'll be a new
name for that.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
They'll probably if you go to a different league or something.
That's usually what it happens when you go to like
or or do what Sting did.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Sting stayed in WCW did and he just became like
the crows Sting and it was so over. But it
was over because and I talked to Court Bauer, the
MLW founder. We talk all the time about purpose. It's
like the best wrestling is when the storyline the wrestler
is wrestling for a reason, there is a purpose and
you're fighting against not just a group of guys, but uh,
(33:34):
their ideals and they're their their purpose. It's like if
you can lock into that, that's when people are like
drawn in line the nWo Like these things work because
there's a real story.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Yeah, that's that's in anything I feel. Yeah, what other
actors do you think they could jump into the wrestling ring?
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Us A few men?
Speaker 1 (33:57):
I bet you. I mean that's people don't realize that
wrestlers are like really that they're performing like that. I know.
It's athletically crazy and it is very dangerous because even
if it's choreographed, no, like the movement is still like.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
The riddlest thing could off him.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Like it's so impressive to watch a lot of these
wrestlers go and like be able to entertain thirty five
thousand people or the whole stadium big deal in their
perform and like you're like they didn't even fuck up
their own line and they're coming all off the dome
and the you know what I mean, Like yeah, and
some of them have to be word perfect.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
If if one of the top brass says you got
to hit these words or hit this line, it's like, Okay,
don't screw that up. You got one take. Take what
actors in there? Ethan, super Lee, Ethan, super buddy, Ethan.
He could do it for sure. He's the guy who
lost all that weight. Now it's like jacked. Yeah, I
think there are there are guys like there are guys
(34:58):
like you know, Kevin James wrestl in the high school.
He wrestled with Mick Foley. Kevin James decided to drop
twenty thirty pounds. He could come in and tear it up. Yeah,
I don't, I don't know who do you see?
Speaker 5 (35:11):
Who?
Speaker 3 (35:11):
Do I see?
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Chris Hemsworth almost played whole Cogan. I mean he was
really good.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Yeah, well you can have You could have Wohlburg out
there like as Degeneration X in there fucking giving a
bunch of suckets and shit.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
John Barenthal would be great.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
John Burnenthal would be John bere a very good wrestler,
but he'd be legit. He'd be like a Dean Malenko
Chris benwa style, where you like believe this dude is
just tearing people in him. You know who would be
really good as my buddy Kevin Durant. He's uh, he's
probably predominantly a character actor. I just worked with him
(35:48):
on Naked Gun. But this dude is massive. Oh yeah, yeah,
he looks a great shape. That one of him shirtless,
Click on that that dude. That dude could go tear
it up tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
He could be a good heel.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
And he's a good actor too, Like he's a believable actor.
How about my man from Reaching Bro Alan h.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Guys, and he's a former football player Alan Richson beast yea,
he knows them.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Dude's a killer.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
You're fucking cool' you're good, You're good. Hangs.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
So Jules is starting to do a little bit acting.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Oh you know.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
What's funny is the moment I walked in. Within three
or four minutes. In my head, I'm like this too
good act because no, no, no, no, like legitimately you
know quickly, if you know, you know, And it's it's
somewhat about the look. It's very much about the presence
and the vibe. And then it's also about like, Okay,
well do they want to do it? Because you have
(36:46):
to want to do it too. Some people will be like, yeah,
I got pulled into this thing. I didn't really care,
and I'm like, yeah, I could tell you didn't care. No,
it's it's nice when someone does care and they try
and it's and it works.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
I'm really interested in it, genuinely, I have been. I
mean I used to do a bunch of I always do,
like the the plays in school and like junior high,
I always had an infatuation. I like performing, Like when
we started doing our little spoof videos. I always got
comfortable in front of a camera, and I like making
people laugh with certain things. But it also I'm interested
(37:21):
because it'd be stepping into something I'd be so uncomfortable
kind of really doing that. It's intrigued me.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Now what is uncomfortable The actual act of doing it
or the environment of being like environment I don't belong here.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
No, it's the environment, and it's also the pressure of
being Like in the huddle with Tom Brady, I don't
want to fuck up my job for people that are
taking it like I'm gonna get a I'll get an
opportunity because of my football career.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
But because they're an athlete, they'll have more grace for
you and they'll be more comfortable.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
I know, but like this is their thing. I don't
want to cut you know, Like that's the only that's
the only thing that gets I remember in my life,
all right, remember my life?
Speaker 4 (38:00):
Reading your lines, it's hard to read.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
I can teach you my method for line memorization, which
I stand by.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
It is very much. You only learn one page at
a time, so you'll always kind of know the beginning
better than any part. But it'll make sense to you
because you know each each piece of the puzzle to
where you're not gonna forget the end because you've felt
the the journey of the actual words. You know they
make sense to you because you know why they're there
(38:29):
and knowing why it is part of intellectualizing how to
memorize the lines, rather than just being like and then
you say that, so I say this, it's like, yeah,
cave man, do that.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
Do that. It's very similar to learning an offense. Okay,
you probably when you learn the there's concepts, so you
have a three man concept. One one word can tell
three guys what to do. Now you can learn what
on just what you do in that thing. But if
you learn conceptually, like you say, if you're learning everything,
(38:59):
then it'll come naturally in your subconscious better.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
I feel, yes, yeah, that's exactly what I was talking about.
And it's repetition too.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
Man.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
Perhaps the more I wrestle, you know, I tell everybody
I go to be honest, like maybe I started wrestling
at like a forty five out of one hundred, yeah,
or a thirty five out of one hundred.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
As long as you're getting up.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
But if I get one percent better every match, yeah,
twenty matches, that you're gonna be able to tell the difference.
And I think people who watch my first match in
my fifteenth match state, it's very obvious that you're getting better,
even if it's one percent.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
That's what I said.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
With Tom Brady and his announcing career, I said he
ain't gonna be Everyone asked me preseason, how how do
you think Tom Brady's gonna do? And I was like,
I don't really know yet. I think he's gonna be great,
but I'll tell you one thing. I can guarantee he'll
be different from week one than week seventeen because he's
going to continue to try to improve, and you'll see
(39:56):
his improvement.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
I love that quality and which is the desire to
be better and also being able to recognize like this
is step one, and like I don't have to feel
insecure about Step one because it by nature is step one.
It's not because I'm a Step one guy. It's because
this is step one.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Okay, we'll be right back after this quick break. Let's
let's jump into a segment. We go back in a
time where the game took place, or the match.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
Took this it's so funny.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
I love this. We go over pop culture. This match
took place December fourteenth, twenty fourteen. Number one movie Exodus.
I loved this movie. Christian Bale was fucking stud Oh.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
I hated that movie.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
You liked that.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
I liked that movie. Okay, why did you not like it?
I just thought it was weak sauce. I didn't.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
I didn't buy I just like the story by the
historic of Exodus Stope as shit, and I like Christian Bale.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
Dude, Christian Bale can do no wrong. In my eyes.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
What is bad is my movie? Did that? Just get
mind fucked?
Speaker 2 (41:01):
I don't think no, no, no, does.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
That mean my movie? Bro?
Speaker 2 (41:05):
No, no, Ridley Scott, the Bible, Christian Bale, it is
oh more than okay to like. Okay, I just wasn't
my vibe?
Speaker 3 (41:11):
All right?
Speaker 1 (41:11):
Well, both our vibe we can agree on this number
one song, Blank Space by Taylor Swift. Girl Dad, You're
gonna you're You're, You're gonna be a girl dad here soon.
I've taken my daughter to this concert coupled or we
went to the concert Taylor Swift.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
Is yo amazing.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
How dope was it when Taylor re recorded all her
music so that she had the uh, the owner. But
it's basically her saying fuck you to these people that
she felt were doing her dirty, and so she just
re recorded everything so she can own her own music.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
I thought that was sick. That's sick, But I don't
understand the legal on that. Is it the same exact
song but she knows it's the same song.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
But it's the idea of like, I am recording this
differently so that this is its own thing, and you
can't say that it's identical to the original recordings. It's
essentially me making a pizza at your pizzeria and you're like, well,
now I own your pizza recipe, and I'm like, listen, bitch,
I'm gonna go open up my own pizzeria and serve
(42:15):
the exact same thing. And because I'm using a different
ingredient in the pizza crust. You can't say it's your pizza.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
But I just want to know what the different ingredient is. Oh,
that's what you want to that's the literal nature of it.
I want to know the literal different ingredient of the
song in your Face Scooter Braun. Sony cancels its release
of the interview following cyber attacks. I went to the
premiere of that movie in downtown LA and the vibe
was awkward. It was like it was like it was
(42:45):
like a red carpet, a step in repeat.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
And then a bomb squad. It was weird. That was
a weird premiere to go to. I'll never forget that
North Koreas the thing I remember. I ran into Rogan
in I Love the Hallway of the after party, and
this was I'm sober now, but this is back when
I was like, I was going hard and I was
like drunk walking up to Bill Mark going I love
(43:07):
your show Real Talk, and he's like real Time and
I'm like yeah, And I ran into Rogan. He's got
a he's got a joint in his hand, and I'm
all excited to meet him and he looks depressed, not
because I'm there, but he's like in a mood and
and some like pr person's like, Seth, we got to
pull you away, we gotta hea you talk to so
(43:29):
and so. And he was like, clearly he doesn't want
to talk. And he's hitting a joint and he stares
at me and he goes super slow, like passing the
joint really slow, as if like passing a chalice off
from a king to a pauper. And I take the
joint and I say to Seth. I grab his arm
(43:51):
as he's walking away. I go, hey, man, you made
another really good movie, like as if to say like
I know what this feels like right now to some degree.
And he went, thanks man, and like walked away, Thanks man.
Speaker 4 (44:04):
The studio is great.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
And I hit the joint. It was like I passed
it to my buddy Julian. We're both just like in awe.
We're like, WHOA, Seth Rogan passed us a joint?
Speaker 3 (44:12):
You know?
Speaker 4 (44:13):
His new TV show is awesome in the studio the studio, Yes.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
It looks like the most Paul Hauser show ever. It's
like we're gonna talk about Hollywood and do a bunch
of cool cameos and all the greatest funny people in
the world are in this show.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
Yeah, easy acting. So what was life for you like
in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
I was watching all a dope ass TV Fargoing, True Detective.
Hell yeah, man, hell yeah. Super Bowl Champs, Patriots, Way
to go? That was That was my first Woodhead.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
You wood fan.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
I always liked him. I always thought like a lot
of guys got more credit, but I thought he was
so consistent.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
Man, He's a fucking and he's a great teammate. Worked hard.
Speaker 3 (44:52):
You could tell he was.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
He was a fun guy to be around.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
MVP Aaron Rodgers ayron NCAAF champion for Ohio State. I'm
from Michigan.
Speaker 3 (45:01):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
Hey, shout out Matt Patricia though, Maddy pp Heisman, Marcus Mariota, Mariotta.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
Mariota went to Oregon. He was very good. Marriotta by Bond, boy, he.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
Just signed with someone. Wait what I made a very
dumb hotel. That was a very good Johnvoy Marriotta by Bond.
But that is show by the way. December fourteen, twenty
twenty fourteen. You know what was also going on? What
Jared Fogel. We didn't know he was a pedophile yet.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
Wow, he was still eating something a little we knew.
Think about that. If we didn't know Jared from Subway
was a was a gross little freak, then what don't
we know now?
Speaker 2 (45:39):
Who else is a gross little freak? Who's gonna get
brought out?
Speaker 3 (45:42):
Wow, you're right, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (45:43):
Isn't that a mind blow? That is a random person?
Pick a dumb nerd and glasses who's like I lost
Wade eating sandwiches? Like, who is that now too? They'll
come out to no way, there's always one name was
the deal? That guy intimidates me because he's just got
a better heart than me, intimate. I almost don't want
(46:05):
to meet him just because I'm like, you're a better
person than me. I can't do it.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
He's intimidating because he's given like fifteen hundred circumsessions, circumsessionsmising, circumcision, circumcisions.
Speaker 4 (46:17):
Circumsision, circumcission.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
Circumcision, a brisk He's literally circumcised thousands of kids in Philippines.
Probably gonna get sued for that time.
Speaker 4 (46:32):
That's a little bit for the record.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
It sounds like there was likely a purpose and that
he wasn't just going down there.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. In general,
sounds more more pleasant business. It's actually a very great thing.
He was doing a great thing. But that's intimidating that
he's got surgical hands. It's intimidated to be around steady hand,
steady hand.
Speaker 3 (46:54):
This every show can exist in in like a These
are pretty standalone episodes, but a constant through line is
Tim Tebow circumclasis. Yeah, it comes up to me, comes
up quite a bit.
Speaker 4 (47:05):
You're kind of hitting the greatest hits. Danny wood had
comes up every show.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
Does anyone else feel like their thighs are gonna Dandy
Woodhead would come up to you and he would he'd
have like the funniest, most wholesome way of complaining. We'd
be in there after like seven double days and he'd
sit in his locker and he go chools, do your
hamstrings feel like they're in the back of a Chinese
(47:30):
restaurant getting chopped up by a butcher?
Speaker 5 (47:35):
Time?
Speaker 2 (47:36):
Like, what.
Speaker 1 (47:38):
My hamstrings are tired? He would always come.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
With something wonderful, analogy.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
Wonderful, like, hey, you do your quadriceps feel like they
just got sunken in the I started doing that as
a result of a joke and Anchorman because they keep
walking by smelling Paul Rudd's perfume.
Speaker 2 (47:58):
It probably just like appatite is like he does a
cameo and he goes, smells like the inside of an
artificial leg, bigfoot stick poop with burnt hair on it, Like,
so I do that all the time. I'm just like,
I'll taste. They'll be like, try this sauce, and I'll
put it on my food and I'll taste and I'll
go no, They're like, what do you mean now? And
(48:19):
I'll be like, it literally tastes like a demon saliva.
I'm not eating it, or a good version where it's like,
how how is that water?
Speaker 1 (48:28):
Well? How was the water.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
Tasted like an angel gleaked in my mouth? That's what?
Speaker 1 (48:34):
What about the opening of super Bad when they're sitting
there talking about their mom and learning her that you
had to get a certain porn site so she wouldn't
understand it perfect yeah, and he goes, what did you
talk about? It was like the first time I saw
I was listening to the beetles. Her eyes are like
the first time I listened to the beetles.
Speaker 2 (48:52):
It's hysterical.
Speaker 3 (48:53):
I love the bowling website.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
Super Bad is undefeated. Man, I was dope that because
I in.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
How old are you?
Speaker 2 (49:01):
I was born in eighty six.
Speaker 1 (49:03):
I'm an eighty six kid too, So like that was
right when we were going perfect time, you know what
I mean, in high school, going to college, and it
was like that was our life.
Speaker 3 (49:12):
It was what was super bad?
Speaker 2 (49:13):
Oh seven or six? Can you look at seven in
the words that Joe Rogan, Well, Jamie Queen link to
seven seven, Jamiequeen, link to the Yeah, we'll put we'll
pull link to it. I'm gonna say something outrageous and
then and then not explain it. Well, link to it, Jamie. Sorry,
(49:35):
that's what we're making.
Speaker 3 (49:38):
August seventeenth, two thousand and seven.
Speaker 2 (49:40):
August seventeen, two thousand Okay, But there was a time where, like, oh,
seven to eight, the comedies that came out were ludicrous.
It was it was literally like super Bad, hot Rod,
Tropic Thunder, Step Brothers, and Pineapple Express within a year
and a half.
Speaker 3 (50:00):
It was psychotic.
Speaker 1 (50:02):
I watched Trumping thunder like a month ago. It was
like they couldn't make this movie.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
Now.
Speaker 3 (50:05):
Knocked Up was seven? Yeah, I mean it was knocked
out was good?
Speaker 4 (50:08):
All the time, Dodgeball was four, Wedding Crash five, I mean, speaking.
Speaker 3 (50:12):
Of what I now pronounce each other?
Speaker 4 (50:15):
Yeah, yeah, man, step Brother was.
Speaker 3 (50:20):
Five, Take Me.
Speaker 4 (50:24):
Six, Hangover nine?
Speaker 1 (50:26):
Why did we?
Speaker 2 (50:27):
We had just a streak of undeniably brilliant comedies and
nowadays it's like impossible to find one.
Speaker 1 (50:34):
We're also getting older, and our our our comic, our
comedy is different than the younger comedy.
Speaker 6 (50:39):
That's every general buying DVDs and DVDs was running the
whole comedy market.
Speaker 1 (50:45):
It's probably different in movie industry more, but like in
the locker room, it's the same thing. Every Like the
older guys are always making fun of the younger guys
for being softer. And I looked back when I was
a rookie compared to the guys were playing sure ten
years in the league that I was like, they have
we are soft compared to that, just like or whatever.
Speaker 2 (51:06):
You know, it's just like time. I don't know, Yeah, no,
that I like that. You're coming from a place of logic.
Speaker 5 (51:12):
Too.
Speaker 2 (51:12):
Many people come from a place of emotionality and then
they're unaware that they sound stupid.
Speaker 1 (51:16):
Yeah I sound I come from that place a lot too, though.
Speaker 2 (51:21):
Wow, that's human, but some people overdo it where you're
like you might need you might need to be in
social time out.
Speaker 1 (51:27):
Have you been as off a one exactly? Just jump
into the match.
Speaker 2 (51:35):
Jack Blue Carper aka John Huber was thirty years old
when he did this match. That is for wrestling, thirty
is kind of your prime because you've had enough years
in your twenties to learn the craft in the business,
but you're not old enough to where you're limited in
your move set.
Speaker 1 (51:51):
Thirty is great, I would say in football similar I
would say my primus of the prime years for me
was like twenty eight eight to thirty. It's because you're
you're athletical pinnacle is is still not tapering. You're still
on kind of the up. Yeah, you're at that top,
(52:13):
but your mind reaches, like you're saying, because of the
years of experience, yep, you gain your your mind goes
and now after that year, your mind will continue to raise,
but that's when your athleticism will taper, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 2 (52:27):
Yeah, very similar to the rest the court. That's such
a quarterback thing too, where they hang on and you
want them to hang on till they're forty four to
forty five. But it's like there's only one thirty eight,
thirty nine. It's just very obvious something's changed.
Speaker 1 (52:39):
It's yeah, but it's changing also, and that that that
example is changing just because of the rule changes.
Speaker 2 (52:48):
No offense jewels, But I think I know more about
football news.
Speaker 1 (52:56):
Preposterous.
Speaker 3 (52:57):
It was good.
Speaker 1 (52:59):
I believed it's.
Speaker 2 (53:00):
Very Galfanakus thing to say, you know no offense Julian,
But I think I know more about wearing black clothing
than you do.
Speaker 3 (53:05):
I mean, I'm wearing gray sauce, I'm wearing white.
Speaker 1 (53:10):
Oh, Ziggler, What a stud dude. He's Nicknammoth.
Speaker 2 (53:13):
Hell yeah, shout out to Bay, a real wrestler turned
TV wrestler who also now does stand up comedy.
Speaker 3 (53:21):
Absolute like we alluded to this earlier public absolute workhorse.
Wouldn't you say?
Speaker 2 (53:25):
He's undeniably a future WW Hall of Famer, future TNA
Hall of Famer, the guy put in work like nobody's business,
and one of my favorites for sure. I don't think
he breaks the top ten for me, but he might
be a top twenty for me, for sure.
Speaker 1 (53:40):
Who's top ten?
Speaker 2 (53:42):
My top ten sometimes will change right now, it's for sure, Sting,
Brett Hart, Rick Flair, Chris Jericho, Arn Anderson, Kurt Angle,
Randy Orton, Mick Foley, Dustin Rhodes, and that tenth is
what changes sometimes. But today I'll say, I'll say Raymisterio today,
(54:06):
hell yeah, or Kenny Omega. Either one could be there.
Zigler's top twenty though.
Speaker 3 (54:12):
And we're all about celebrating Kent State Golden flashes in
the nuthouse as Nicknamus graduated Kent State as a career
career leaders in victories one hundred and twenty one, four
time NCAA qualifier.
Speaker 1 (54:25):
What a beast, Dud's a beast Kent State go flashes.
Speaker 2 (54:28):
His brother Ryan is one of the first people to
train me in the ring. No way, I'm forever grateful
for that.
Speaker 3 (54:35):
Hell yeah.
Speaker 1 (54:36):
What's Dove's special factor in wrestling?
Speaker 2 (54:38):
Well, for one, he sells the hell out of the moves,
so he's always making guys look crazy, powerful and good,
almost almost to your own career detriment. I would say,
like a borders on that, uh, But his deal is
that he can He's like the perfect middleweight where he
can do some high flying stuff, but he can also wrestle.
(55:01):
Wressell and do like the suplexes and the body slams. Like,
to me, that was always attractive if you had the
duality of that, and and he had that duality and
could could have as good of a match with Raymisterio
as the undertaker. You know, Sean Michaels had that. Yeah,
you know Sean Sean was like that.
Speaker 3 (55:17):
He draws the Sean Michaels comparisons.
Speaker 2 (55:19):
Concert, Billy Gunn and Sean are very much obvious influences
for him.
Speaker 1 (55:26):
Whose influences on you?
Speaker 2 (55:28):
My influences are undeniably Arn Anderson, Bam Bam Bigelow and
Mick Foley. Those are my three. And I mean I
do the I literally have a move called Brett Bigelow
where I do Brett Hart's side Russian leg sweep. I
immediately stand up hit the ropes into a falling head
butt like bam Man.
Speaker 4 (55:44):
What about for acting.
Speaker 2 (55:46):
Acting, Oh, Philipson, Were Hoffman, Michael Shannon, Sam Rockwell, Peter Sarsguard,
Paul Giamatti, John Goodman.
Speaker 3 (55:55):
For sure, we just got to give Sam some flowers
for his White Lotus performance. Oh my gosh, oh yeah, man.
He might have Marieoi with a nomination over that.
Speaker 2 (56:04):
So good. I have mixed feelings about Why Lotus. I like,
I think it's a little too anti climactic. They kind
of just are like, watch these people on vacation. But
but having having said that, having said that that show,
I've discovered so many great actors just from watching that show.
Like I'm I I love Parker Posi. She's like a
(56:27):
top one or two favorite actor of all time for me,
her and Catherine O'Hara. I treat Kate Blanchette, Catherine O'Hara,
and Parker Posey. Those three women are like Brando to me.
I like them more than Marlon Brando, and I'm a
male actor, Like, I think they're brilliant. But I also like,
they got Steve's on and they got my boy, Walt Goggins,
(56:49):
And I'm like, I can't not watch it even if
I don't love the season or the episode. It's like
they have too many good people that I don't want
to be I don't want to miss the buzz, the
public converse sation over it.
Speaker 3 (57:00):
Yeah, I couldn't agree more.
Speaker 1 (57:02):
I feel like, I'm.
Speaker 2 (57:06):
I gotta know your top three shows of all time scripted?
What are your what are your shows.
Speaker 1 (57:10):
Top three Escape from Dana Mora, Oh, I loved that show.
And they have my jersey and goes dirty.
Speaker 5 (57:23):
No.
Speaker 1 (57:23):
But actually I love prison. I love prison. The p
system is fast, yeah, and I love the escaping prison
and it's a true story. I thought that was a
great the moment.
Speaker 3 (57:31):
Where he says the Patricia Arcady goes oh or whatever,
it's like, whoa bro, I want a choice, man.
Speaker 1 (57:39):
I would put a choice blackbird in there. Oh sick
because maybe Top five no well scripted, And this is
what like. I I just started getting into the deep
deep scripted. And then I also love like the old
I used to love Nip Tuck when I was a kid.
Speaker 2 (57:55):
Nip Tuck was great.
Speaker 1 (57:56):
Remember that move That show was on a heater.
Speaker 3 (57:58):
Then I'm more of.
Speaker 1 (58:00):
A movie person.
Speaker 3 (58:01):
I'm more of a move person too.
Speaker 1 (58:02):
It's so hard because I don't have the time or
the attention span always to go watch eight movies. That's
what these shows are. They're eight movies. Now it's a lot,
you know what I mean. And I'm like kind of dumb.
So I have to like when I'm watching a show,
I gotta like take notes and ship like because I
want to. I want to be able to like remember that,
not take notes, but like I gotta like really may attention.
(58:25):
For me, I gotta go the wire on HBO Wires Insane,
the Wires Sopranos, Man, we're going there. Uh For me,
it's the wire breaking bad because it's just I cried.
I mean there were episodes where I cried. Yeah, television
can make you do that. It's impressive to me.
Speaker 2 (58:43):
And then I love the first like four seasons of The.
Speaker 3 (58:46):
West Wing that showing.
Speaker 2 (58:48):
I watched that show when they lost sort and they
lost the plot. No one gave a shot after that,
But I.
Speaker 1 (58:53):
Didn't watch what that's a little West Wing? That's a
little before How old are we?
Speaker 2 (58:57):
No, I watched it after the fact.
Speaker 5 (58:59):
I was.
Speaker 1 (59:00):
I wasn't like thirteen years old. Yeah, I love to
say yeah Bartlett for President?
Speaker 3 (59:04):
I was, oh, man, I was.
Speaker 4 (59:06):
I watched it after Josh Lyman, let's go, Paul.
Speaker 3 (59:08):
I love you as an actor, man, you're up there
for me. But Walton Goggins, I'm like, I'm a full
fanboy a Goggins Glazer Man, what was it like to
to get to work with the legend.
Speaker 2 (59:18):
It's really none of your business.
Speaker 3 (59:20):
I'm I'll have to wait till I meet the man.
Speaker 2 (59:24):
I know Goggins was listen. I'm a big Goggins guy.
Oh man, I love him unjustified. I love him in
freaking the Tarantino movies.
Speaker 1 (59:35):
Like.
Speaker 2 (59:35):
I think he's awesome. What I didn't know is how
like he he takes acting so seriously, so like devout
and earnest in his approach and talking about it. He's
very giving. He's like a general and emotionally generous guy.
And I had a moment where I like I on
the Luckiest Man America, which we just we shot together,
(59:58):
you know, twenty twenty twenty three. I just had a
very vulnerable moment. You ever cry when you don't plan
to cry? It just kind of comes up out of
nowhere when you're telling a story.
Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
Anytime I watch My Ducks, I was.
Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
Anytime they put that poop in the purse and the
guy grabs it and chases them in fast motion.
Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
I cry over the stupidest shit with like kids movies. No,
I can do that too, so like because it brings
me to my like place with of where you were
with your parents or and that's you know what I mean,
like or like anytime winning happens in a sport movie,
like when the when the team finally comes together. Yeah,
like remember the Titans, Dude, I started crying.
Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
Dude, I'm not like crying at sandlots so much, but
I cry my eyes out. I remember the Titans. He's
like when when he's like when bird Tier played by
the wonderful Ryan Hurst, Yes, when bird Tier starts accepting
wood Harris and starts getting in on his own teammates.
Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
Like, come on, boy, that's right. I like that night
and then we was like you're my brother, Jules. I'm
just like that Stephen's song playing and that is peace Train.
Oh god.
Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
But yes, the random crying anyway, I had a moment
on set where I was telling a difficult story about
how I lost favor with some of my family members
or friends because I chose my wife and I knew
to choose my wife over them. When I got sober
and went to therapy and marrow counseling and took Zoloft
and was like, Wow, all these cobwebs just got cleared
(01:01:29):
in my head, in my heart, and I when I
felt I made the right decision, but it was still hard,
really difficult, and I start. You know, we're like sharing cigarette.
I'm a cigar guy, so like I handed him a
cigaretto or he had a cigarette and we're smoking talking
between scenes and I just start crying and I was like, oh,
trying to pull it back, and Walt immediately Goggins immediately
(01:01:52):
stands up and walks to me and grabs both my
shoulders and my arms and he goes. He goes, you
got your own family, Like you made the right decision,
Like you can stand by that. You can like just
kind of gave me like an emotional pep talk that
he didn't owe me at all, And it was the
sweetest thing in a mental world to me. And uh,
and that's what I mean too by being emotionally available
(01:02:13):
to a cast and crew. If you are so into
your own thing, I understand it. You want to be great,
but I do think there's a way to be able
to make people feel seen even while you're doing your thing.
That's exactly Yeah, Goggins is that guy. Man, He's the man.
Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
That's what the great great ones do.
Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
I think, speaking of crime, when he didn't think you
were gonna cry, geez, you sharing that ball.
Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
It hit me.
Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
Man, Peter Fairley did the same thing to me on
the side of the Wahlberg movie we did, where he
just he was always emotionally available and it meant a
lot to me, and sometimes I get pissed to him.
He'd be like, read the line this way. I'm like,
why am I getting a line? Read like I'm I'm
a very competent actor, but that's my ego. When I
when I step back and I look at it from
(01:02:56):
a different perspective, or I watched the footage, which I did,
Pete was fairly was right nine out of ten times.
Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
Yeah, there's a.
Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
Reason he's Pete Fairley. And you gotta you gotta trust
your coach.
Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
You gotta trust the coach.
Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
Dude, we're a little we're a little tangential, but I
like that we're talking about stuff we all actually care about.
Speaker 3 (01:03:12):
That for sure.
Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
Man, So the nut house brings us. Dude, hear hearing
about two of my guys chopping it up and sharing
that moment that got me.
Speaker 3 (01:03:19):
Man, that was awesome.
Speaker 4 (01:03:20):
Thanks Paul.
Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
Yeah, Man, there's just an onion and a knife in
front of him. I'm like, I'm like, bro, that is
really manipulative. Are you trying to go viral.
Speaker 7 (01:03:29):
Bro show business tricks over here in the Nutthouse. He's like,
oh god, it's been so wow, the game, the lead up,
let's go, my gosh, last night I was last night.
I went down this just again, totally way off the rails.
I went down a long rabbit hole on Nikki with
the Spirit Squad.
Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
Oh I love dude, Spirits Squad is great.
Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
Love that, Oh my gosh. But to get us back
on track a little bit here this was the Intercontinental
title is on the line here.
Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
Which to me is more than the world I see
is like the workhorse belt.
Speaker 3 (01:04:03):
Can you break that down for us between like the
distinction between the.
Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
Two title The gentlemen who have had the ICY title
have to have a certain usually a certain competency in
the ring physically and technically, whereas the world title, you
could just be a big beast of a guy like
Under the Giant, be really big like Mark Henry and
have a smaller mooset and you could still carry that title.
(01:04:27):
So like, the Icy title for me is just like
it's almost like the Sag Award, the oscars dope, but
the Oscar is the world heavyweight title. The IC title
is like the sag Awards where your peers other actors said,
you're the guy. Hell yeah, yeah, yep, Now tell me
the distinction because I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
All Pros voted by players and coaches, Yeah, Pro Bowls
by fans. Yeah, and it's kind of you know, like, yep,
it's it's Internet vote vote. I knew that.
Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
I just want to make sure you knew I know
more about football.
Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
Yeah, of course.
Speaker 3 (01:05:03):
And speaking of the icy title belt, it was changing
hands a little bit around this time, the Miss had it,
then Dolph Ziggler took it from him by.
Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
Miss as underrated. The guy can work in the ring,
he's incredible on the mic. He has been selfless in
his endeavors, and he has made a lot of people
look good. Shout out to the Miss, Shout out the Miss.
Future All Famer.
Speaker 3 (01:05:24):
Hell yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:05:25):
And he's also golfs a lot that I've seen golf
in a bunch of team player. That guy, he thought
a lot for the w W. He's a real world
gay win. He then thank you, and he and Dolf
had a little back and forth there. Dolph took it
from him late summer, held it till November. Then Louke Harper,
(01:05:45):
who's coming out of his his uh, I guess you'd
call it his his time with the Wyatt family with
the dissolution of that, and now he's kind of into
a more of the singles role. Takes it in November,
holds it till our match today where that is on
the line. They had their feud going a little bit
back and forth, some title defenses. You had the whole
team sena versus the authority with the Survivor series going
(01:06:07):
on around this time as well. And this was the
first match of the night at the the TLC event.
Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
By the way, that's also a big deal. First match
of the night is always like decided upon, like how
do we get the audience, the fans in a good
place got it.
Speaker 3 (01:06:21):
It's like you gotta you gotta burn it down. You
gotta grab two ballers.
Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
You know.
Speaker 1 (01:06:25):
It's kind of like when I go to the casino,
the first thing I do is I put five thousand
dollars on black and if it hits, it's gonna be
a great night. If it doesn't, fucked.
Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
Did you learn that from Entourage? No, I guarantee you learned.
Speaker 3 (01:06:39):
That from Ntourage.
Speaker 1 (01:06:39):
No. I learned it from a guy in college that
probably learned it from Entourage.
Speaker 3 (01:06:43):
Okay, bro, those poker.
Speaker 4 (01:06:47):
Games back at Kent State Religion, Yeah, mean you weren't
putting five thousand down in college Kent State.
Speaker 1 (01:06:51):
He walked in, He walked into Quickens Loan Arena with
the Kent State hoodies.
Speaker 3 (01:06:55):
Amen. No better way to start a match like than
the hometown kid coming back wearing the Kent State gear.
The pop was insane.
Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
Yeah, he was so over at this point over in wrestling,
you know, like like with the fans, like you are popular.
He was so over at this point, and he had
that that freaking music he came out too was so
then take it off Noon Noon Noon Dune do Like
it's weird how important the entrance music every and.
Speaker 3 (01:07:24):
All man like when you hear that glass shatters, I'm
looking at cultures.
Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
That gets me every time. No, not nothing, nothing touches that.
Speaker 1 (01:07:32):
Nothing.
Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
It's like that.
Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
I remember his kid getting so goddamn excited when I
heard that glass shatter. Stealing at my boy's house, who
had an illegal box so we could watch the fucking
the pay per view match. He had one friend that
had the illegal box where it was on chan.
Speaker 2 (01:07:49):
I wasn't allowed to hang out with that kid. I
just had to listen to it on the scrambled TV
like it was fully clothed pornography.
Speaker 3 (01:07:56):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
Well, there there was multiple WrestleMania's only went to that
guy's house warm.
Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
Yeah, hey, why don't you come hang out?
Speaker 1 (01:08:05):
More?
Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
Wrestling is not on? Sorry, bro, Jeff, your dad creeps
everybody out. The fact that your dad and your stepdad
are cool with each other weirds us all out. We're
not coming over unless you got Summer Slam. Now the
cabinet has shit snacks select WrestleMania. You can't buy Dorito's.
Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
Your little Debies were a hostess family.
Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
By Nacho Triangles. Sorry.
Speaker 3 (01:08:32):
What makes the.
Speaker 1 (01:08:33):
Ladder such a perfect wrestling prop?
Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
You know, ladders are unpredictable, some of them have you know,
broken mid climb, so like there is an element of
extra sort of danger and uncertainty, which is always fun
for the audience, probably not for the performers. And then
and then also like the idea of like the literal climb,
(01:08:58):
like so much what these guys got I was doing
the story lines is like I'm climbing the mountain. I'm climbing.
It's a literal climb to win and so like I
think both visually and in the circumstantial, and that you
can use that as a weapon.
Speaker 3 (01:09:09):
It's just a visual feast.
Speaker 1 (01:09:11):
Is there any time in your life that you've gone
onto a ladder and not thought about wrestling? Because I do.
I go to I go on my roof at least
once a month, and every time I go on my ladder,
I think about doing a fucking something.
Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
Man'd be really cool to do a moon salt, right.
It's just what hurt quite a bit.
Speaker 3 (01:09:30):
This is just an ocean of violation waiting to happen. Baby.
Speaker 1 (01:09:33):
What's the mount rushmore of wrestling props?
Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
Oh wow, that's a for As much as wrestling fans
talk about wrestling, I've never heard that question. That's brilliant.
I gotta go with some obvious ones, which is chairs, tables,
and ladders.
Speaker 3 (01:09:50):
But if there's a fourth, I don't know what. What
do you think?
Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
Does anything come to mind? I mean I always like
the like tax stuff. I was like, attack, man, I
love the tax I've been on some Yeah, I've been
through those tax Before.
Speaker 1 (01:10:07):
You saw blood, I was like, man, this ship's get real.
I was, I was, I love tax i. I love
the belt. I like the dude, take the fucking belt.
Take someone on that.
Speaker 2 (01:10:18):
That's dirty.
Speaker 3 (01:10:19):
Barbed wire, barb wire, barbar bat stairs, don't sleep on stairs.
Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
Stairs, don't sleep on stairs, and stairs hurt. They make
the greatest noise and and.
Speaker 1 (01:10:31):
It got the league got so smart when they put
the microphone right next to it, so they had mics
everywhere there so you hear them. Mm hmm. Brilliant. I mean,
that's that's the little NFL stole. The NFL stole a
lot from wrestle uh, the w w F when they
took over and they bought the x f L. We
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we we used a lot of their things, like the steady.
There's a couple other things that we took from RUSS
because there's such great performers. I'm bringing the fan inside
the huddle.
Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
The Falcons recruited he hate.
Speaker 1 (01:11:06):
Me as a joke.
Speaker 4 (01:11:11):
Rod Smart played for the Panthers.
Speaker 2 (01:11:12):
Panthers Goldberg was Falcons shout out to North Carolina's Kevin
Green for wrestling w CW in the midnight.
Speaker 3 (01:11:19):
Not about that. What a beast? Are you right? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
That guy could have wrestled forever.
Speaker 4 (01:11:25):
I got a bit of a new question with regarding
like props and wrestling, so they always pull out ladders
and chairs from underneath the ring. Is that supposed to
be like the ladder was there because they set up
this ring, or is it like that's a prop that
the wrestler, like wrestling, says, Hey there's ladders under there,
and that's a part of the show. Here's your props.
Speaker 2 (01:11:43):
It's subjective, but but to me it's always the second one,
Like the fans aren't dumb enough to be like they
needed those, they needed a barbed wire back, put the
ropes something.
Speaker 1 (01:11:53):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
To me, it's just understood that, like the plunder is
under the ring, the blunder is under Get Wanda down
on the can. I follow up with another new bish question.
Speaker 3 (01:12:05):
This might be better for the fine folks at the
Warner Corporation, but Warner makes a special ladder for the
n CUAA tournament when they cut the nets down. It's
got a bigger platform up top, it's got handles on
the side, nice and safe for all the players and coaches.
What about wrestling?
Speaker 1 (01:12:20):
Are these just straight up ladder?
Speaker 5 (01:12:21):
Like?
Speaker 3 (01:12:22):
Is there any any funny.
Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
Business going on with the I don't as ingratiated as
I am and immersed in this world.
Speaker 3 (01:12:27):
I actually don't know they look like regularly. I don't
think Warner is doing anything this.
Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
I see guys take ladder shots where I've seen guys
power bomb on them and stuff. There are still skid
marks and blood all over their backs, So I imagine
it's a real ladder. There's no real way to like
bump safely on the ladder. You just gotta hope to
God the guy doesn't.
Speaker 1 (01:12:50):
Chang half the wwither c G I dude, you guys
check your eyes for the wold.
Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
This and when when people say wrestling's fake, you have
no idea.
Speaker 1 (01:13:05):
You have no idea.
Speaker 3 (01:13:08):
But in speaking of ladders, this is just an awesome
ladder match. We got climbs, pool downs, weaponizing.
Speaker 1 (01:13:14):
Ladders, great pacing, great pace.
Speaker 3 (01:13:16):
It was just amazing.
Speaker 2 (01:13:17):
But by the way they sold for each other where
there were a couple double downs. Yes, now you're double down,
meaning you know a guy does a sup plex off
the top rope, they're both laid out. You know that's
a double down. So what they did here is they
did not try to satisfy the impatient fan. They were saying,
when we both fall from the ladder, it hurts both
of us. Doesn't matter, and like I appreciate that. That's
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kind of the MLB thing of like go ahead and
have the lung baseball game. Like I will watch all
of it because I know that this is what it takes.
So I love those moments, and I love how the
whole match really does feel like Jack and the bean sock.
It's like Golf is the little kid, the obvious babyface,
and then the heel is this guy who looks like
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he's gonna, you know, chase up the beanstalk and kill you.
Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
That's scary. I went down. I went to James and
the Giant Peach when you were talking about the beanstalk.
I don't know why. I went to the movie James
and the Giant Peach. And then I had to like
cross over my head while you were talking about the
bean stocks. Well, and then I thought about Mario because
the little beanstock that always went up, but I always
thought that was the bean stock. Yeah, that's what I
(01:14:25):
literally just thought.
Speaker 4 (01:14:26):
Are you just explaining your ADHD to us? That's that
I saw a squirrel out the window on a.
Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
Very special episode of the Games, We will go inside
the mind.
Speaker 1 (01:14:36):
Oh, Julie what was the what was your favorite moment
of this match?
Speaker 2 (01:14:41):
There was a couple, I think, and this is very
nice that you have the match up opening, uh, middle closing.
I think my favorite parts of the match are, for sure,
when Harper stretches that ladder out onto the announced table,
You're just like, oh, we're not paying this off yet,
but we know it's going to pay off at some point.
I love that tease harper suicide dive. Anytime a big
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guy does a big dive and you know the way
he landed. If you watch that suicide dive that Luke
Harper did, he lands right on his arm. This is
a three hundred pound man falling on his arm onto
a ladder, a real ladder from essentially if you look
at that photo, how high is that It's about seven
feet So you look at his arm and it's like
(01:15:27):
immediately cut and bruised and bleeding. No, yeah, I love
the reality of that. But best moment is for sure
Ziggler getting that freaking a superkick and knocking him. Wait, no,
is it the superkick what hits him onto the ladder?
Because Harper falls back first onto the ladder, That's like
(01:15:48):
my favorite moment.
Speaker 1 (01:15:50):
Geez, you'd love this match.
Speaker 2 (01:15:53):
It's a solid match. Sometimes I love a movie and
it's like people are like, really that movie. It's not
that they don't think it's good, it's that it's not
as sexy as the more famous ones. And like I
just I'm more into something that I just think is
super solid. Like I always ask my friends the question,
what's your death rowmeal? What's your death rowmeal?
Speaker 3 (01:16:12):
What do you choose?
Speaker 2 (01:16:13):
You can choose anything to eat before you die easy,
And sometimes people are like salmon asparagus, and I'm like, bitch, what,
I'm like salmon and asparagus, and like they're like, so
it's good meal. Sorry it's not sexy enough, but that's
my death romeal.
Speaker 4 (01:16:27):
I love that Jules has devil eggs on it.
Speaker 1 (01:16:29):
I love devil eggs as an appetizer.
Speaker 2 (01:16:32):
You know, I didn't have a devil degg. I never
ate a devil dog until I was at Sun Dance
at the High West Whiskey Restaurant my friend Abby, and
it was the first time I had a devil egg
and I put it off for years. I'm like, it
looks weird. Everybody's mom's making them. I don't know what's
in there? And then I had it, and I was like,
this is the greatest thing in the world.
Speaker 1 (01:16:52):
Now was it a sweet relish devil egg or was
it a spicier double Oh?
Speaker 3 (01:16:56):
This thing had like a sliver of a jalapeno. You
got some sauce and some bacon, and I like that.
Speaker 1 (01:17:03):
Yeah, my mom used to make him with I liked
the little sweeter of it.
Speaker 2 (01:17:07):
My double legg experience was a big deal for me.
I don't know how to Maybe I'm not. It was
like losing your virginity to to like a Dallas Cowboy
cheerleader something.
Speaker 1 (01:17:19):
I understand. Doubl day. I mean, i'd tell my death throat.
Speaker 2 (01:17:22):
Sorry, a New England Patriots cheerleader or something. No Dallas
wat Oh dude, I didn't even know some of this.
But to wrap this up one of them, I mean,
so cool that you guys have the aftermath. I didn't
know half of this. The ending of this match was awesome.
Of course, the hometown kid takes it.
Speaker 3 (01:17:43):
Uses a ladder as a bridge to the ladder that
is still standing, gets up there. Then Luke Carper comes around,
sets up another ladder, so it's a parallel climb. Zigla
hits him with a bow, super kick gets him off,
and he captures that belt words.
Speaker 1 (01:17:58):
He falls off.
Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
Luke Carper received thirteen stitches in his head after the match.
Speaker 3 (01:18:04):
Did not know that brutal ladder, real ladder.
Speaker 2 (01:18:07):
This gave Ziggler's fourth Icy title sixth total. I did
know that Ziggler finally defeated Seth Rollins on SmackDown soon
after that. I guess later that's a big moment too,
because Rollins was becoming a made man around them Big Time.
Rolling Stone named Ziggler twenty fourteen Wrestle of the Year.
Did not know that. I'm sure that match had something
(01:18:29):
to do with it. Ziggler held the belt for twenty
two days. Oh what a trash rain. That is bad news.
Speaker 1 (01:18:38):
Bear it.
Speaker 2 (01:18:39):
I'm sure Vince McMahon made that decision.
Speaker 3 (01:18:41):
It seems like a Vince decision.
Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
Dude, he's the dumble. If everyone's like, you can't take
away everything Vince did, though, I'm like, yes, I can
beat shit. Ziggler remained perfect in ladder matches. Love that's
you know, that's cool. That's like when a team is
like undefeated in a city, it's like we've never lost
in Detroit.
Speaker 1 (01:19:02):
Yeah, Luke Harper passed.
Speaker 2 (01:19:03):
Oh that sucks. I'm buddies with. His wife is the
widow Amanda Hoober. I see her at a w all
the time, and she is the sweetest, coolest. Her kids
are awesome. She still loves wrestling and and and you
know she she burns a bright light for him.
Speaker 4 (01:19:21):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:19:21):
And when I can't imagine how hard that is, man,
she she burns a bright light that.
Speaker 3 (01:19:26):
Lady shout out to her. That's that's tough.
Speaker 2 (01:19:29):
Luke Harper for being one of the greats.
Speaker 1 (01:19:31):
Manu r I p for real, that's awesome. You picked
this match. What's the legacy of this match? For me?
Speaker 2 (01:19:40):
It's just a great match to go back to for
entertainment value.
Speaker 1 (01:19:44):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:19:44):
For honoring the guys who weren't at the top top
most of the time, and and also just teaching the
young guys how to do it and say, like, look
at the pacing and look at why the moments matter.
They're not doing nine million flips and nine million chairs
like they do today. Why do you think that is?
It's so that you appreciate it when it does happen. Yeah,
(01:20:06):
So this is just a style that is almost going away.
With the current trends and and you know Huber and Ziggler.
It's also I think they had good chemistry. I don't
know that they knew they would have that chemistry, but
they did. They had great chemistry. And that's you know,
when we talk about Breton Sean, the chemistry there, when
we talk about you know, Rock Austin, whoever this is,
(01:20:30):
this is one that I always go back to. I'm like,
those guys are good chemistry. I like that. I like
and actors too. You know, it's fun to watch a
movie and go the movie was good. It didn't win
like a bunch of Oscars, but like, man, I got
to see, like the movie The Judge. You're watching Robert
Downey Junior and Robert Duvall. Yeah, I know it's not
everyone's favorite movie, but it's still.
Speaker 3 (01:20:51):
Duvault great.
Speaker 1 (01:20:53):
Chemistry.
Speaker 2 (01:20:54):
Jeremie Strong Vicentinafrio.
Speaker 1 (01:20:56):
Would you trade your Emmy for a wrestling belt Championshi
Intercontinental Belt?
Speaker 2 (01:21:01):
Damn, that's like a hard question to answer on camera.
I Well, people don't really vote on belts either. You know,
that's like an executive decision to have people vote, and you.
Speaker 1 (01:21:14):
Never have even that, you would never give your Emmy
for a belt. But like, hypothetically, would you.
Speaker 2 (01:21:20):
If somebody said to me, if somebody did a pre
mortem and they were like, you know, yo, you can
either be an Icy title holder or win an emmy,
I would want the Icy title for sure.
Speaker 1 (01:21:33):
That's what I thought, just from getting to know you
a little bit on the couch. Right now, you definitely
take the title. We'll be right back after this quick break. Now,
let's name this game and score the game. Is this
the greatest game of all time? Let's score it. These
are some names that we came up with. If you
have a name that you have in your head that
(01:21:55):
you want to use, we can use that. But here
are some things that we came up with. Shows dealer,
disrespect my authority told you can't read tables, ladders and chairs.
Oh my Cleveland, this is for you. I'm getting my
belt back cut, and ladders, shooting ladders, shoot latterers. Play
(01:22:17):
like that one check Checkov's ladder, Checkoff's ladder, checkofs ladder.
Speaker 3 (01:22:23):
Alluding to that ladder that it was precariously plays from
the ring to the announcer's table. That that's too smart
for me.
Speaker 1 (01:22:30):
We see exactly. I'm right there with you, Bubbs, I
can't even read it. Or do you have something else?
Speaker 3 (01:22:37):
I think I like boots and ladders, ladders, Luke carp
with that.
Speaker 1 (01:22:42):
Boot, boots and ladders. Score the game? Is this the
greatest game of all time? Let's score for the game.
The steaks of the game, zero to ten decimals. Okay,
you got to score the stakes of the game.
Speaker 2 (01:22:55):
I'm just I'm gonna say, uh, like a seven.
Speaker 1 (01:22:59):
Seven, it's integrity type score. I'm going with seven as well. Intercontinental,
It's not not I know, it's I know, we went
down the differences. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:23:09):
Yeah, it's still not the big dog though, And it's
not Russell Mainner or Summer.
Speaker 3 (01:23:12):
It's like, it's yeah, I'm on the seven nine. I'm
in there. Continental man, oh straight three.
Speaker 4 (01:23:18):
Just it's it's entertainment product versus like super Bowls and stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:23:21):
What about the star.
Speaker 2 (01:23:23):
Power of this at that time? Being realistic, that's probably
a five point fives.
Speaker 1 (01:23:32):
Being honest in integrity, Yeah, you got to be honest man,
five point five as well.
Speaker 2 (01:23:37):
I can't worry about Nick Namath watching this mule. What
do you mean it was a five point It's like, bro,
I'm not your favorite movie actors. I'm not your number one. Like,
it's okay, we can say what it is.
Speaker 1 (01:23:48):
I'm went with the six to four.
Speaker 4 (01:23:49):
I had a five point one.
Speaker 3 (01:23:50):
We're on the same ballpark here.
Speaker 1 (01:23:52):
Game play or the match play, oh man, to me,
it's like a like a nine. It was a great match.
Like you said, everything was methodically thought out. It wasn't
just oh, let's throw a chair here on the show,
let's build ship up.
Speaker 2 (01:24:09):
Yet it's also the two men they don't nowadays they
always have people running and like, oh, the guys who
are friends with the wrestler are now helping. It's like
there were no run ins. We didn't need a bunch
of cameos.
Speaker 3 (01:24:21):
It was just two dudes. Imano, mino, mano.
Speaker 4 (01:24:24):
I'm gonna go with eight eight six at eight point one.
Speaker 3 (01:24:28):
Anytime a six foot seven guys doing a dang suicide
dive out of the room gets me going.
Speaker 1 (01:24:34):
Now we score the name of the game, the name
of the match, cultural impact of the cultural impact, boots
and ladders, zero ten decimals.
Speaker 2 (01:24:44):
Okay, oh, cultural impact, it wasn't really there unfortunately. Yeah, no,
I would say like a.
Speaker 4 (01:24:50):
Four, four, four point five, I go five to had
a old seven to three at a one point two,
I was high.
Speaker 3 (01:24:57):
I was going high.
Speaker 1 (01:24:58):
Where does his score on all on all the games
that we've done and matches we've done, it's a.
Speaker 4 (01:25:02):
Six point two that puts us right at eighty one,
ahead of the fake Spike game twenty thirteen, Week eight
Lines versus Cowboys, and just behind the Gilbert Arena sixty
point game two thousand and six or two thousand and
six game twenty three Wizards versus Lakers?
Speaker 3 (01:25:20):
Very solid?
Speaker 2 (01:25:22):
Where is that list online? Can I read that whole
list somewhere?
Speaker 4 (01:25:25):
I should publish this.
Speaker 3 (01:25:26):
We can send if you guys go on post that.
Speaker 2 (01:25:28):
That'd be so fun for people to then like search
those out.
Speaker 4 (01:25:30):
Here's the top gay Man. The I Quit match is
thirty three here?
Speaker 3 (01:25:34):
Oh wow?
Speaker 2 (01:25:37):
Any other wrestling match?
Speaker 4 (01:25:38):
Yeah, the Becky two belts when she won when Stee
headlined WrestleMania thirty five two belts, Yeah, that's twenty first.
And then where's the Sean Michael, the Iron.
Speaker 1 (01:25:46):
Man that Austen fought Kevin Owens, the Iron Man match
from WrestleMania twelve, Michaels and Brett Hart, where's them? Thirty six?
Speaker 4 (01:25:57):
Thirty six right here.
Speaker 3 (01:25:58):
Yeah, we had sewn michaels On for well, at.
Speaker 1 (01:26:00):
Least you guys actually have like good matches. Yeah, like legit,
like I know what all those are.
Speaker 3 (01:26:06):
Yeah, as a head, Paul, do you have any that
we should seek out to do?
Speaker 1 (01:26:11):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (01:26:11):
Yeah, absolutely, and I could. I could put you in
touch with some dope wrestlers and I love that. Uh,
you definitely got to interview Wahlberg because you're a patskuy.
Speaker 1 (01:26:24):
Me and Mark we're pretty friendly. He's cool dude. When
you brought that in, I didn't want to say, like,
I'm I'm boys with Mark too, But Mark's actually been
a He's when I was a young football player. He
actually was a really cool dude. Like he was he's
mister Boston and so like if you get the call
from fucking Mark Wahlberg to come to do his house
and hang out, yeah, like that was like, you're you're
(01:26:47):
getting welcome to the city.
Speaker 2 (01:26:49):
You gotta have Wahlberg on. You gotta have my boy.
Diamond Dallas Page on DDP has got a couple of
classic matches for sure, but one of them is, oh
my god, him and him and Macho Man Randy Savage.
Savage made his career. Yeah, there was a moment backstage
where arn Anderson was like the agent producer of the match.
(01:27:10):
It might have been Spring Stampede or Great American Bash
ninety seven. Macho He's like, what do you want to do?
What do you want to do? And it's Randy is
the one in charge. Randy can say what they're gonna do.
And Randy goes, I think, don't want to take the
Diamond cutter tonight. And Dallas is like cool, yeah, and
he's and arn Anderson is surprised and he goes, yeah,
(01:27:34):
I'm not kicking out, you know, basically saying like I'm
not only letting you win, but I'm taking your finish.
I'm gonna and like that match was kind of what
made DDP. Yeah, so you gotta have him on. And
then that guy's got to watch one of his matches
with Savage because they're you want to talk chemistry, those
two were Peanuburg.
Speaker 1 (01:27:53):
Jelly, Oh, we're definitely wait heck yeah, I got the
chill in the back of the neck for that. You
do a good macho man, like, like you're setting of
how you do it, because I would do macho man Savage.
Speaker 3 (01:28:10):
Yeah, like.
Speaker 1 (01:28:13):
You're an actor, you can know how to do that.
Speaker 2 (01:28:14):
Austin man. I was doing Austin in Austin impression last night.
I got invited to a Laker game, which I felt
like a little kid, you know, I get to go
to the Laker game, there's free food. Well, who I'm
you know. I still feel that way all the time.
But I was talking with wrestling fans and and just
kind of holding court and we were talking about how
Austin three sixteen came to be. It was like Austin saying,
(01:28:38):
you talk about your Bible, you talk about your John
three sixteen.
Speaker 1 (01:28:43):
Ohuston three sixteen, he says, not just whipped your rith
And it's like.
Speaker 2 (01:28:48):
It's crazy that he just like improvised that line of
of promo and it became the best selling T shirt
for twenty years or whatever still for the company.
Speaker 3 (01:28:56):
Brilliant, Oh brilliant.
Speaker 1 (01:28:58):
Paul Sure Jesus is so out you know him Jewish right?
You are?
Speaker 5 (01:29:06):
You are?
Speaker 2 (01:29:07):
I wouldn't have even done.
Speaker 4 (01:29:08):
That makes the circumcision makes more getting.
Speaker 2 (01:29:13):
Just kidding, Uh, that's hilarious, awesome, one of the greatest
to ever do it. He's on everybody's rushmore for a reason.
Mine is a little more skewed. But like, if I'm
doing a definitive amount rushmore and I'm like, you can't
pick your favorites, tell me, like, just pick the best
to do it, Hogan, rock Flair, Austin, Right, what are
(01:29:42):
we doing over here? That happens on movie sets sometimes
what happens. You'll be in the middle of a really
serious scene.
Speaker 1 (01:29:48):
And now give me a director that will fucking motherfuck
someone and give me a director is like, oh, it's
all right, guys.
Speaker 2 (01:29:54):
I think most of them are are pretty chill about it.
It's more of the actors because like we're trying to
do our best work. And then like some random dude
on the crew is just like watching MLB Network on
his phone and he forgot to turn and he didn't
know that it got unplugged from his headphones for a second.
Like suddenly we're like, is that bob Yucker? I'm trying
to talk about it being molested as a child in.
Speaker 3 (01:30:15):
A monologue just a bit outside.
Speaker 2 (01:30:19):
Well, shout out to Bob Ucker, all right, legend, legend,
shout out to Peter Gammons, and shout.
Speaker 1 (01:30:27):
Out shout out to you for coming into the nuthouse
and letting us get to know you.
Speaker 2 (01:30:33):
This is so fun. I wish I could have done
three four hours.
Speaker 1 (01:30:36):
This is this is awesome. Everyone go out and check
him out in the Luckiest Man America in Theater out today, Yes,
out today, April fourth, starring Paul Walter Houser and Walter
Walton Goggins. Paul, thank you so much. Check him out.
Speaker 2 (01:30:55):
Uh oh this yeah, I mean you'll by the time
this drops you have missed it. But we are in
Long Beach April fifth. We are having an event. It's
called Battle Riot's a big deal looking up on YouTube.
You can watch it for free. And then, of course,
yeah we got we got our next pay per view
type event May tenth in Chicago.
Speaker 3 (01:31:13):
Yeah, it's gonna be.
Speaker 2 (01:31:14):
A barn burner. And we've been putting all of our
pay per views up on YouTube for free live to
night they air, so like we're showing a lot of love.
Show us back, click that like and subscribe and see
what Major League Wrestling is up to.
Speaker 1 (01:31:27):
Man, it's been so awesome and it's been a pleasure
to get to talk to you about your acting career
and your interest and your love for wrestling. Thank you
so much, and anytime you need us for anything from
the nuthouse, come hit us up.
Speaker 2 (01:31:41):
Bro A beautiful jew and a beautiful gentile sitting here
in harmony. A brilliant athlete who people are just gonna
find out that he can also act, a brilliant actor
who people are just gonna find out can get physical.
Speaker 3 (01:32:00):
And that's how we ended.
Speaker 1 (01:32:01):
What a fucking job, good ship man man. How cool
is Paul Paul Walter Houser. He's like, he's got such
a cool vibe because you have this this thought process
of what he is because of the roles he's playing, yeah,
freak free. Yeah, and and he's like such, he's a
(01:32:24):
really smart dude and he's very eq awesome, so cool,
Like you could tell you could put him in a
room of anyone and he can get along with people.
Speaker 3 (01:32:35):
He's our kind of guy.
Speaker 4 (01:32:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:32:36):
Any I love learning that he started from comedy.
Speaker 3 (01:32:40):
Yeah makes sense.
Speaker 4 (01:32:41):
The whole we all did a really good job that
whole episode of not stealing any of his lines. Jamie Taco,
Yeah shut up, we weren't Jamie Taco. So we good
job in that house for you know, letting him say
his own lines and get him out on his own time.
Speaker 1 (01:32:55):
Did you see a clip of him yeah, uh jumping
off the ladder ladder Yeah, unreal, dude. It was in
Long Beach, Yeah, it was.
Speaker 4 (01:33:02):
I think the day after we recorded.
Speaker 1 (01:33:04):
He had ladders on the brain. After that that ladder
match recovered. I wonder if he may have thought of
us at the top of I mean, he had to
have this one's for jewels. I don't think like that,
but I mean we did talk about it for we
did two hours. Let's kill Paul. Look at Paul.
Speaker 3 (01:33:23):
Oh, that's gotta hurt. That's a man that does his
own stunts people.
Speaker 1 (01:33:31):
He said ninety perspectable. He said, if the liability person
comes out and says you're not allowed to do that,
I wonder what Tom Cruise says to those people.
Speaker 3 (01:33:40):
He probably says, get lost, I'm jumping out of this.
Speaker 4 (01:33:43):
He probably puts in his contract and it's like I'm
doing I'm freaking contracts.
Speaker 1 (01:33:50):
He owns the movies.
Speaker 4 (01:33:51):
He's no, he doesn't.
Speaker 1 (01:33:53):
We even talked a little that scientology with Paul.
Speaker 4 (01:33:56):
One time. I thought I was so cool. I was
like kind of like a snarky edge lord whatever. Walking
down Hollywood Boulevard by the scientology place and they're all
doing their bullshit, and like one time I was like,
can you help me with my career? And they like
grabbed onto that. Oh no, and they were like they
wouldn't leave me alone. It was like freeding a pigeon
in the park the street, like that will help you,
will help you. Have you heard of Paul Haggis.
Speaker 3 (01:34:16):
We can introduce you to Elizabeth Moss.
Speaker 4 (01:34:21):
Obviously I didn't take him up on the offer.
Speaker 1 (01:34:24):
Bro, I just got to say.
Speaker 3 (01:34:25):
The one thing that's it's sticking in my mind is
Paul came in here and dropped Danny woodhead references, Jim
Varney references. Shout out Ernest.
Speaker 1 (01:34:35):
Bro like drop he got them tattooed on him.
Speaker 3 (01:34:37):
Awesome references, Dude, it's so cool.
Speaker 1 (01:34:40):
I love his What was his? And he he had
a list for everything, Leo Lyle.
Speaker 3 (01:34:48):
You give someone a top five list, like, ah, he's
got he had a top fifteen prepared, he got ten and.
Speaker 4 (01:34:54):
He had like different like, well, that's the list of
all time greats, but this is my personal list.
Speaker 1 (01:34:59):
He said, very well thought out.
Speaker 3 (01:35:01):
Man.
Speaker 4 (01:35:01):
I can't wait. We only talk about too much. But
he's gonna play Chris Farley in a new biopic coming out.
I can't wait for that.
Speaker 1 (01:35:09):
I can't wait to see his new movie. We're gonna
I'm gonna watch it tonight.
Speaker 3 (01:35:11):
Look his man in America?
Speaker 1 (01:35:13):
Is it? Wait? Is it in theater or is it
I'm gonna go Maybe I go to the theaters tomorrow night.
Speaker 3 (01:35:20):
Take me with you.
Speaker 1 (01:35:22):
I'd be so down, brother. It looks like it's just
out in theaters at the moment. Let's fucking go, we
get I'm looking to take a hand in America. Dude
cracks the hack. Honestly, it's basically a biopic of Ernie
Adams in the stock market. Yes, beating the system, beating
(01:35:42):
the system from what I've heard. Yes, he's never told me,
but I guarantee Ernie, like warm Buffett took all his
fucking money out this two weeks ago and he's just
like this. I wonder how the tomatoes are gonna be.
Speaker 3 (01:35:57):
Ernie, you got any tips? Well, if you wouldn't buy
the whole company, would you buy one single share? That's
your answer.
Speaker 1 (01:36:03):
I was like, all right, invest in things, you know.
Speaker 4 (01:36:07):
Should we get Ernie back on we go back to
Boston in football?
Speaker 3 (01:36:10):
Yeah, give me give me something that will get me
insider trading. LYE like, I want to be right on
the edge. Give me something that's not insider trader, but
it'll give me a tip right up to the Martha
Stewart line. Come on, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:36:22):
I wonder how you could like buy stocks on a team,
like not actually the team, but like the team coming Well.
Speaker 1 (01:36:27):
They tried to do that years ago. I remember Drawed
Mayo where you could invest into the player's contract, but
they'd have to pay out dividends or something. I remember
Mao talking about this when we were playing. I know,
I think he may have done it or something, or
there was guys that were doing it where you could
sell out your your career earnings. It was like a
(01:36:48):
thing where I don't know, I.
Speaker 4 (01:36:50):
Guess it's kind of getting a future like Vegas.
Speaker 1 (01:36:53):
I think I found yeah vestible, I think, oh man,
no free plugs here though. Imagine if you didn't like
like JaMarcus Russellers something, what what happened?
Speaker 3 (01:37:08):
Short?
Speaker 4 (01:37:10):
I want a short why short attitude?
Speaker 1 (01:37:16):
Honestlyback the Shadoor Sanders thing. I've been thinking about this
because I love Dion I really I really love Deon Sanders.
Ever since the time he bought my dinner at the
Super Bowl when I barely knew him, but he it
was the coolest thing ever.
Speaker 3 (01:37:32):
I loved.
Speaker 1 (01:37:32):
Where was that?
Speaker 3 (01:37:33):
What restaurant?
Speaker 1 (01:37:33):
Where we at? Red Bull or something nice? Minnesota?
Speaker 3 (01:37:37):
Tight?
Speaker 1 (01:37:39):
Maybe they're doing this so that he does slide, because
the more you slide, the better team you go to,
the better situation you go to. Who the fuck wants
to go to New York with these guys? I love
day Ball. I think he's a spectacular coach, but that
that operation right now, like you know, the pressure that's
(01:38:01):
gonna be there, that coaching stat like you know what
I mean?
Speaker 3 (01:38:03):
Who wants to go to New York?
Speaker 4 (01:38:05):
The only upside is neighbors got.
Speaker 1 (01:38:08):
Some good ship and Dabell Dabell is the only upside.
But like I don't I think they may have They
may have cashed too much of that that what is
it called the equity of being a coach for the
next year.
Speaker 4 (01:38:21):
But Patriots, we should be hyping him up. Yeah, him
and the Giants would be a great fit.
Speaker 1 (01:38:27):
Now, I think you do is going to be better
than what people think. Maybe because every putting this high
standard on him. If he goes to a place and
he gets to learn under another quarterback. I think he's
gonna be I think he would be pretty good Giants
under who Russell Wilson and Jamis Winston. Maybe I just
(01:38:48):
talked myself into the Jackets gone to the neighbors.
Speaker 3 (01:38:56):
It is New York.
Speaker 4 (01:38:59):
They are you making any They stuck out with.
Speaker 1 (01:39:05):
Sanders went to New York. They want to he wanted.
Dion would look like a fucking He would look like
a he was. He would look like the Wizard of Oz.
Here's why, Giants, he would look like the Wizard of Oz.
You gotta win win scenario with the Giants for Sanders.
If he goes there and it's not a good year day,
both probably done. Maybe Dion has a great another great
(01:39:29):
season and he's open for a head coaching position. Yeah,
but you I want I think if he goes and
does well, he does well and everyone's happy New York,
New York A. I don't think Dion wants to go
I don't know. I have no clue, but I don't
think Dion wants to go to pros.
Speaker 4 (01:39:46):
No.
Speaker 1 (01:39:48):
He he reup making an impact on young people's life.
Speaker 4 (01:39:52):
His impact in college football is like going into the
living room and saying, I'm fucking Dion Sanders come to
my school. Here's some money that's like his like, because
he's not like an x's and o's guy as like
as much as the other people. So he's like a
fucking recruiter type.
Speaker 3 (01:40:07):
Yeah, he's extended through twenty twenty nine football, you don't.
Speaker 6 (01:40:09):
I mean, obviously he's been on some Super Bowls now obviously,
but you go into a two different organizations. You're Francisco
forty nine ers and the Dallas Cowboys played the late
Baltimore Ravens, which was a championship foundation.
Speaker 1 (01:40:21):
He knows winning football. I don't know. We'll see. Well,
that was a great interview with pauls Houser. That's a
guy I'd love to have back in the nuthouse. Gonna
have him back in that house. Also might run lines
with him in the near future.
Speaker 3 (01:40:35):
That was awesome.
Speaker 1 (01:40:36):
It's time for the Chill Zone, brought to you by Coors.
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Speaker 3 (01:40:52):
Yeah, join your brother boom sound. It's five o'clock somewhere right.
Speaker 4 (01:41:03):
Facts all right, Jack, take this away?
Speaker 1 (01:41:07):
What are we doing right now here?
Speaker 3 (01:41:08):
Since this is a wrestling episode and we talked Macho Man,
any chance we get to talk Macho Man?
Speaker 1 (01:41:14):
We're talking him, talked to him with Paul. Don't even
know him that well, just love watching it, write Tam.
Don't even know the story, what he's about. I just
am so entertained by him.
Speaker 4 (01:41:24):
Is it possible to even know Macho Man? Randy Savage?
Speaker 3 (01:41:27):
I think we're all Macho Man in our own ways.
Who it's always how is macho man? Not? Who is
Macho Man? Anyways? We mentioned this in the episode. As
we have been a part for a little bit of time,
Jules Kyler and I, we stayed in touch, not by text,
not by phone calls, but by Macho Man memes. Distance
(01:41:50):
makes the heart grow fond or all that stuff. All this, Oh,
I can't do the long distance thing. All you relationship
therapists out there, prescribe some Macho Man memes and I'll
get You're right. So in honor of that, we're gonna
go down memory lane, so to speak of some of
our favorite Macho Man moments and react. How do we
(01:42:10):
sound about that?
Speaker 4 (01:42:11):
Guys?
Speaker 3 (01:42:11):
Because a feel about that. Sorry, ready, the.
Speaker 5 (01:42:16):
Pukester's helping me to the left, and no, Pukester's helping
me to the right.
Speaker 3 (01:42:22):
Didn't need him then, don't need Now.
Speaker 1 (01:42:27):
We gotta start using Pukester more. I think, I mean
you gotta use pukester be the amount of what is
in his system for him sweating perfusely. His eyes look
like like that is that's you know, if you want
to capture intensity, that's captured intensity.
Speaker 3 (01:42:48):
Yes, right there, macho man, Puster.
Speaker 1 (01:42:51):
You didn't need him, then, don't need him now, Fuster,
don't need him, No, you don't.
Speaker 3 (01:43:00):
Here's a fan favorite, fan favorite. I'm talking about all
the weight to the top year.
Speaker 5 (01:43:06):
Justifire way in a position that I'd rather not be in.
Speaker 2 (01:43:10):
But the cream rise to the top.
Speaker 3 (01:43:13):
Oh yeah, my true madness Year has got more creams always,
right always.
Speaker 1 (01:43:20):
I wanted to just keep on going in. I could
have watched that for another ten minutes. There is I
kept it close for it. Yeah, it's it's good, the
abridged version.
Speaker 4 (01:43:29):
You should just start like committing to the bit and
just start having creamers in your pockets at all times.
Speaker 1 (01:43:33):
I do it on Fox.
Speaker 3 (01:43:35):
Every time.
Speaker 4 (01:43:36):
Everything's about that season, like thinking about the origin of that,
like was he just like waiting to go shait?
Speaker 1 (01:43:42):
They talked about it. He literally said he he came
up with it in like two seconds, right before they
were about to do he had nothing. He's like, watch this.
He pulled out some creamers and now I look at it.
Wrestling history bro pro pros.
Speaker 5 (01:43:58):
A woman's psychiatry and she said it was o CD.
Speaker 1 (01:44:02):
One cool dude, CD. You're so o CD dude, one
cool dude. Yo, we got pukester. We're gonna start using
o CD. Who's the pukesture of the team. That's what
we should started asking the next, the next who's the
O C D of the team? The one.
Speaker 3 (01:44:24):
It'll be a litanus test to know if you're cool
or not. Like if we say puketure, you'd be like, oh,
I know what is a pukester?
Speaker 1 (01:44:29):
Though? This Is it just someone who's puking, like vomiting everywhere?
Speaker 3 (01:44:34):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (01:44:34):
Is it the punky that got too hammered at the party?
That's it's got to be in the slappy world, like
he's in that family. I feel like just a little weasel,
like let us know, we know, let's get some justification
of what we think Puchsture is and how we're gonna
use it, because we're gonna start using that and OCD Yes,
they will both be part of the regular lexicon. Next one, Oh,
(01:44:55):
another classic.
Speaker 4 (01:44:56):
If you're a personal friend of Rod Stewart, as I understand.
Speaker 5 (01:45:00):
He did Tonight's The Night Man, he called me on
the phone right before it was released and he says,
macho madness. Yeah, he calls me madness. He calls me madness. Yeah.
And a lot of people out there, you know, they're
getting in the macho madness. Really super strong in macho madness.
Speaker 3 (01:45:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:45:17):
Grown, grown, grown, and more seductive than sex.
Speaker 4 (01:45:22):
You can't say that. I can say that.
Speaker 2 (01:45:26):
I can see that the heavyweight champion of the world,
Elizabeth looking through the video.
Speaker 3 (01:45:32):
You can't say that. You can't say that. I just
said it.
Speaker 1 (01:45:37):
Elizabeth was a baby.
Speaker 3 (01:45:38):
He was man. I love miss Elizabeth.
Speaker 1 (01:45:39):
I love he was a rider. Die Macho Matt. He
didn't finish the story with Rod Stewart.
Speaker 3 (01:45:45):
I know he just that was the that hooked me,
hearing Macho Man and Rod being on the phone like
maybe he did, but he didn't finish it, so I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:45:53):
He gotta get back to. I'm starting to if anyone.
Speaker 4 (01:45:56):
Has any details about Nacho Man Rod Stewart friendship, please madness,
hit up the hot line.
Speaker 1 (01:46:01):
He calls a madness. Maybe we should have Roger Stewart
all to talk about.
Speaker 3 (01:46:08):
Two Nights the Night. Oh you think sexy?
Speaker 1 (01:46:12):
Yeah, yeah, my mom loves rog studish Jesus Christ. Maggie,
I got something say you.
Speaker 3 (01:46:24):
It's late September. Yep, Maggie may a classic.
Speaker 1 (01:46:28):
All right, let's let's what we got.
Speaker 4 (01:46:30):
And this is Ricky the Dragon Steamboats.
Speaker 2 (01:46:32):
Cup of Coffee in the Big Time.
Speaker 3 (01:46:34):
Yeah, cup of coffee in the Big Time. I would
Paul reference that match in our episode cup of Coffee
in the Big Time, of coffee in the big Time,
the big the big Time.
Speaker 2 (01:46:46):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (01:46:47):
Where's the big time? Just like the big like the
big leagues. I wonder if that meant a city.
Speaker 3 (01:46:51):
I don't know. I would just thought it meant like
all Ricky this team, but just got all he had
was a little cup of coffee. Ricky the Steamboat, Yeah,
Ricky the Steamboat, remember him, Ricky the Dragon Steamboat. Sorry,
Ricky the Dragon steam See what's interesting about him is
his real name. It's one of these weird instances where
his actual given name is cooler than his wrestling name.
His real name is Ricky Blood. That's way cooler and steamboat.
(01:47:13):
Let's go with your real name.
Speaker 1 (01:47:14):
It's Macho Man's real name.
Speaker 3 (01:47:15):
I think it's Randy Poffo. I believe we're.
Speaker 1 (01:47:18):
Gonna do a book report on him, maybe start seeing
who we really are watching. Yeah, Randy Mario Pofo Mario
aka Macho Man. He's Italian. He's gotta be Italian. I
guess so I didn't Macho Man was Italian.
Speaker 3 (01:47:36):
I didn't either. Southern the Pride of Southern Illinois University. Also, Oh, Carbondale, Sorry,
that's the real that's the name in Southern Illinois. Yeah. Sorry, Hey,
don't forget about that Edwards Villa in there, s I UI,
it's more of a branch campus. Branch campus. Oh, Jackie,
get shout out, Macho Man.
Speaker 1 (01:47:56):
Oh that was so fun, Oh man, Macho I could
watch those all day, all day. That's that was a
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(01:48:19):
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You started wrestling recently, I think in the last couple
of years. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I have my first match in November twenty twenty three.
It was for a charity event. I thought I was
just going to sign autographs and like take selfies with
kids and stuff. I was just trying to help out,
and then dude just asked me do you want to
be in a match? And I'm like, wow, Sammy Callahan,
a wrestler I admire, is giving me an opportunity to
have a match on a show that has Rond De
Rousi and Jacob Fatu and John Moxley. Like this is
(00:25):
kind of special. I'm gonna say yes. So I took
some classes and got in the ring, and you know,
a lot of people can say what they want, but
I showed that match to Hall of famers and they're
all saying the same thing. They're like, that's your first match.
I was like yeah. They're like, if you got in
shape and wanted to do this, and we already know
you can act and talk on a microphone, They're like,
you could do this thing if you want to. And
(00:47):
I'm like, well, you shouldn't have said that.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Welcome to Games with Names. I'm Julian Edelman. They're Jack
and Kyler, and we are on a mission to find
the greatest game of all time. And on today's episode,
we are covering the twenty fourteen Intercontinental Championship match with
Emmy and Golden Globe Award winner, the Star and main
(01:11):
lead of the Luckiest Man in America and pro wrestler
Paul Walter Hauser. And we get into talking bonding with
John hamm over macho Man, Randy Savage memes.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
John Ham will randomly text me at like midnight and
it'll be a Randy Savac promoe.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
A big life moment with Walton Goggins.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Just kind of gave me like an emotional pep talk
that he didn't owe me at all. Yeah, and it
was the sweetest thing in it met the world to meet.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Speaking of crime when he didn't think you were gonna cry.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Jeez, the four to one one on his jump into
professional wrestling.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Straight jacket style flatliner known as the House Russ.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
You made your own move. That's sick. And at the end,
Jack cooked up a very special chill zone presented by Cores.
You gotta stick around to the end. Let's go, Let's
go Games with names of production of iHeartRadio, December fourteenth,
twenty fourteen, Quicken Loans Arena, Cleveland, Ohio.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Tables and ladders and chairs. O, my, this is the
boots and ladders match.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Welcome to Games with Names. Today we are gonna be
talking and looking at a very special match between Dolf
Ziggler and Luke Harper in the twenty fourteen Intercontinental Title
Match TLC with legendary actor Paul Walter Houser here in
(02:55):
the Nut Studio, I have the first question of the day.
In one sentence, Why did you pick this match?
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (03:02):
I'm not good with one sentence, but I will try
my darnedest. I chose this match because it is exemplary
of the things I most admire about wrestling and entertainment
at large.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Yeah, maybe our best one sentence and best one sentence
in the history of the show.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
And I barely graduated.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
It took me nineteen years to get my degree.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
A lot of people go to college for seven years. Yeah,
they're called doctors. Yeah I heard that all the time quote,
but it wasn't the case. Is this the greatest match
of all time? I won't say that. No, No, I
think the greatest match of all time from my limited
viewpoint would be.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Ricky Steamboat versus.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Randy Savage, also an American all title match, I believe
from WrestleMania three fuck Yes Overdome.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Oh yeah, and that I correct me if I'm wrong, Paul,
But that guy one of the best promo cuts ever.
Cut coffee in the big time, come the big coffee
in the big time.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Here the cream Savage also uh to sport athlete. Let's
him dude, legitimately play baseball.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Like was a beast he they called. That's where he
got his nickname macho man because they put that sign
over there, right, and he said he'd always hit two
hundred feet over the sign. That's how strong you.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Oh you are talking our language, man. He is a
big part of our pantheon of heroes here.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Well, the more I find out about him, the more
I love the guy. And as I can relate to
his flaws more like hul cog and I can't really
relate to his flaws, but I can relate to Savage
as flaws of Like he got a bit jealous, he
was a bit territorial, he had a temper. I'm like, yeah,
I've done all.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Those yeah, no, I we talk about all the time.
I get in a hoole on social media, depending on
which one I am of, at least thirty five minutes
a week of macho man Randy Savage content.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
John Ham will randomly text me at like midnight, and
I know he's just like enjoying a drink, sitting in
better or something, and it'll be a Randy Savage promo
and it's like, there's something about dudes watching like Savage promos.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
It's in the promos.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
I love watching him when he's in the Swiss help
skiing in a fucking it is goddamn underwear. I like
watching him when he's in Afghanistan visiting the troops, like
he is macho man everywhere in the goddamn world. He
makes me so happy, and people look at him when
he's in a different country like these dumb ass American.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
And I fucking I'm like, oh my god, I love it. Little.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
They know that was like the height of Americans looking cool.
Now we look like fucking more sing our best guy.
We used to look dope, man. We were very confident
about our nineteen eighties wrestlers.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Not anymore, but uh, wrestling sports fan where did this
sports fandom come what? And do you are you a
fan of other sports or you just straight wrestle? Yes.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
So growing up, my dad it was a die hard
MLB fan. He you know, worked a county stadium in
Milwaukee and he you know, die hard Brewers. But he
was born in Elgin, Illinois, who was also like closet
and Cubs fan Ernie Banks was like his guy. So
growing up we played Strato Maatic, that baseball board game. Uh,
(06:31):
and that was like a big deal for us. But baseball,
when you're a kid, it takes a special kind of
kid to really appreciate baseball because it is this one
of the slower sports, just the pacing. Now that I'm
an adult, I freaking love watching baseball. I'll give me
a five hour game in the afternoon on WGN, you know, awesome.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Only two and a half now with the pitch count.
But oh yeah, that's the thing, you know what, And
that hurt me the most for exactly what you said,
Because when you were a young kid and you got
to go to a game maybe on a Tuesday night, yeah,
and if it went into extra innings, you got home
at like eleven o'clock maybe your mom said you didn't
have to go to school because she was tired from
yeah driving, that's so yeah. Yeah to the baseball that
(07:12):
I love, so relatable.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Yeah, your dad's going through the McDonald's drive throughout eleven fifteen. Yeah,
I'm like, who am I? Yeah, this is my hangover.
So I was a baseball fan in general, root for
the Tigers. Cecil Fielder was my guy. And then we
got really deep into the Green Bay Packers in like
ninety four ninety five because we had a family friend
(07:34):
who just kind of indoctrinated us. It was kind of
like one of those scientologists who's like, let's have a conversation,
Like we we had like that conversation with a Packer fan,
and we we would go to his house for all
the games, and he was a good host, you know,
putting out his the chip dip and the barbecue and that.
Like it was such a vibe. You know, this guy
had like his man cave to watch Packer games. Shout
(07:58):
out to Dave Bergan who's probably in heaven and doesn't
give a shit about the Packers anymore.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Watching win Super Bowl the time right now in heaven.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Bart Starman is Bartstar dead. I just assumed, yes, he
was quite old.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
He's pretty old from everything you just said right there,
My mind instantly went to you being an actor and
the scientology question. Has someone asked you to be part
of scientology yet?
Speaker 2 (08:20):
No?
Speaker 1 (08:20):
No.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
When when I've walked by the centers and they've tried
to give me stuff or talk to me, I just
I just said no, thanks, man, I'm a Jesus guy.
And then they're like, well, that's okay, some of us
are Jesus kind. I'm like, nah, because because my whole
thing is and God bless him, dude, but it's not
like my religion is super normal. I believe a guy
rose from the dead. Like I can't make fun of
them that much. But but it is funny how like
(08:44):
some people are like being vegans easy now It's like, nah,
you're just like, this is part of your sales pitch, homie.
You got you've been You've been reading up a PDF
privately in your bathroom on your phone that tells you
what to say like that. It's not the same thing.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
I disagree, not a pdf. There's scrolling TikTok, and that's
what they're learning TikTok.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yeah, Well there you go, yeah, no, but I very
much Baseball Packers. Uh, Michael Jordan was you know, it
went Jesus then Michael Jordan. So like Bulls fan, I
didn't come into my own identity of choosing my own
sports teams until like after high school. It was like, Okay,
I'm moving to LA to become an actor. I'm going
(09:28):
to become a Dodger fan. I like committed to Dodgers. Also,
I got to see Kershaw playing the minor leagues because
like he was part of the Great Lakes Loons, which
was like in Midland, Michigan. So like I grew up
going to minor league games, and then those guys would
get sent by Tommy Lasorda to the Dodgers and you
were like, oh man, like it.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Felt you had more of a connection, more of a.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Connection, you know. And uh and then I still root
for the Packers, but it just got messy, like Farv
kind of God bless him. He just kind of x
amount of things where end of his career, post career,
it's like a stealing from people isn't the most mad
chill thing to do? Uh and and then uh and
(10:11):
then Rogers. He's just been on such a public journey.
I feel like I feel like Roger if Rogers wasn't
a nineties quarterback, he would have had a much easier
better time. But being in the age of like information spotlight,
Yeah that I feel like that really dicked him over.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
I just happen to play with the psychopath at quarterback, Yeah,
who all he cared about was fucking winning football games
and when when he's.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
The Michael Jordan effect though Brady is like Jordan. I
love FARVN Rogers gameplay, but they're not. They're not. They
don't have the Jordan mindset.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
I know, But I just I get so mad because
he is that. He is that talented with the arm.
His arm is spectacular and he can still throw. It's
just the stupid antics like some of that stuff like
and I don't even think he means to do it.
I think he's just one of those guys that is
just like.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
He became evolved emotionally midway through his career, which by
the way, is a wonderful thing, but it does affect
the career if you let it. And for him, it
was like I do feel an outside of perspective, I
don't know the guy. I don't mean I met him once.
We did an SP's sketch and I had a blast.
He was super nice to me. But having said that,
(11:25):
I think like you can let your emotional journey get
in the way of whatever the journey is on the field,
and if you're more concerned about self care than the
care of your team, that's going to be an issue.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Well yeah, I mean at that position, specific position, specifically specifically.
That's the I've heard you talk about the pressures of
a lead, a starring role to a different role.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Tanya, completely different from Luckiest Man in America or Blackbird or.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Whatever, because when you're the star every day everyone's looking
at you right or when you're starting you know what
I mean said that, I remember you saying the pressures
of feeling like you had to be on it all.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Let's let's really put it in perspective with the Rogers
thing of like emotionality and your duty at work. You know,
Jim Carrey famously did that Andy Kaufman movie Man, but
a lot of people say alienated them, made him feel uncomfortable,
was over the top, was unreliable, and it's like I'm
attached to play Chris Farley in a bio movie. There's
(12:28):
no way in hell I am walking onto that set
and letting my process dictate the emotional environment for everyone else.
That's I think preposterous. You have to be a good
enough actor to be able to show up and be
like I can still do my process while being a
mensch and making people feel seen and being a leader.
(12:50):
To me that those are not Yeah, I just don't
think it's that hard. And that doesn't mean I'm better
than anyone. It just means I have a little bit
of cognizance and awareness of the people around me.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
I think, yeah, you got it.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
You got to. When you're in a leadership role.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
I think yeah, And that's how I feel, you know so.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
But but you know, the Michael Jordan thing is interesting too,
where it's like he cared so much about the team,
he gave so much to that team and the organization
of the players, But at the same time, it was
the Hymn show, it was the Jordan show. And it's like,
is that by proxy of his greatness or by proxy
of his attitudinal stance and his emotionality. I wonder about
(13:31):
that because different players will say different things. The legal parts,
you know, they'll say Josean on a Sunday and critsify
him on a Friday.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Certain players will say certain things, but not one player
will say he didn't give his everything. And if you're
a if you're a competition guy, which if you're in
this form of business, that's what you are, you compete
for a living, then you'll never have anything wrong with that.
He can be an asshole, he can be whatever is
(14:00):
because he's given his absolute everything that he feels is
his possible mindset to make this team better.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
I'm more like Rodman, where it's like I'm gonna go
wrestle a wrestling match and get hit with a chair
and I'm still gonna show up on set and be fine. Yeah,
I'm obsessed with Dennis Robin. That's like my favorite player
of all time.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
Everyone exciting for that movie coming out.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
It was supposed to happen with my buddies Chris Miller
and Phil Lord. They were gonna make the Rodman movie.
It was like forty eight hours in Vegas and they
attached Jonathan Majors to play him. I hope that still
happens somehow. That would be a great movie. That'd be fun,
it'd be sick that'd be fun sports movie meets like
a rack as comedy like that's.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
It reminds me of Get Him to the Greek very much,
Dennis Robin, Get.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Him to the Greek meets yeah, fill in the blank
basketball movie.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Yeah no, Chris Farley, Wait when you said with with
with Jim Carrey and alienating people, now, isn't didn't he
go full method for that whole thing?
Speaker 2 (15:00):
That was my understanding from watching the Netflix documentary about
on the topic.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Did the guy that he played what's his name, Andy Koff?
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Andy Koff?
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Did he was he alienating with.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
His everybody that was whole?
Speaker 1 (15:13):
That's probably That's that's how crazy genius I think, fucking
because some guys are like that. I think that's what
I've heard. I don't know were their methods so much
like Dan Like we were talking about Daniel Lewis. Yeah,
how he's crazy method? You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (15:26):
I have the funniest story about Daniel day Lewis secondhand
because I've never worked with him and met him, But
I worked with David Stretharron on this movie Luckiest Man
in America.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
He plays Bill Carruthers, like the guy who's the head
of the.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Show, and Stratharn was in Lincoln, and you know, Lincoln
had a sprawling ensemble of all these dope actors who
you know, they have twelve lines, but they're like Spielberg
and Daniel day Lewis like I would serve sandwiches here
and uh and Sterra Darren is doing this big table
scene where I think it's where Lincoln is like when
(15:58):
he's end slavery now now or whatever that thing is,
And well, I just made it sound very stupid. It's
a powerful moment. I'm an idiot. Stratzeran says. Hal Halbrook,
classic actor is no longer with us. The brilliant Hell
Halbrook is coming to set, and everyone's excited too because
(16:18):
they're like, man, Hel Halbrook, classic actor. It's like you know,
Jack Lemon status or whatever. And Halbrook shows up and
as he sits down, Daniel day Lewis, who's so in
character but wants to pay respects to Hell, is saying
to him as if he's talking to the politician or dignitary,
like I've admired your work from Afar for a very
(16:41):
long time. Like I'm talking to you about your acting career,
but I'm pretending it's we're talking about our positions in
the way and gives like a really thoughtful compliment to him,
and everybody is watching it like whoa. Even Daniel day
Lewis has given this guy's props and is going out
of his way but doing it in the covert character
of sense. And then when he done with his little
mini speech, Hal Hallbrook goes, oh, well, I just love
(17:04):
doing the fucking wheelchair movie talking about his Oscar winning
performance at my Left Foot and went told me the story. Dude,
I lost my mind laughing. I thought it was so funny,
Like he didn't pick up on it or even care.
He was just like, oh, I'm going to say something
back to you.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Has there ever been a set that you walked on
like we're you were intimidated by an actor?
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Oh? God, yeah every time.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
But who is like the biggest actor that you were in?
Because I remember the first day for me, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
I want to hear this. I'm curious.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
So live my rookie year in our first like mini camp.
We're calling plays and the team's coming together rookies and veterans.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Yeah, I roll.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Up in there and they put in a personnel group
four wide, so it's me, Wes Welker, Randy Moss, Joey Galloway,
Tom Brady at quarterback. I'm twenty two years old going
in there like, oh my god, I'm gonna shit my
fucking pants. I hope I don't fuck up my play.
I hope I get to my right depth. I hope
I get I hope I see the side of just whatever.
(18:16):
Like I was intimidating because I didn't want to fuck
up their funk because I watched them before me and
it looked like a fucking just It just looked like
the professionals way to look. It looked like pro a one.
These guys were hitting balls. It just everything was a methodical,
like a machine. And I went in there. I was
like so nervous to now, I didn't want to fuck
(18:36):
up the machine. Who is that actor for a scene
or a movie that you rolled into that was like,
I don't want to fuck up this role or this scene.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
It's hard to choose one because they come in different ways.
Like my first film was called Virginia. It had all
these brilliant people on it, and one of them was
Ed Harris and Ed Harris, it was tough to I
acted with him and Jennifer Connolly in a couple of scenes,
and it was tough to work with them, not because
they were difficult, but because I've spent my whole life
watching them. So it's like I have to take myself
(19:07):
out of being the viewer and say, you're you are
now being viewed, and like you have to get over
that in your head a little bit, because you know,
I almost forgot my dialogue because I was just thinking, like,
I'm watching their performance because they're so they're so good,
They're so effortlessly good that you're kind of like getting
drawn in. You're like, I'm not a video village. This
(19:28):
is not my job. I have to jump in in
a second.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Broken the rental spot for the people that don't.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Know, No, it's it's when you're watching like the.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Oh there was a there was a movie rental spot
at my in my hometown called video Village. I didn't
know if it was a change that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
No, that's awesome, Yeah I know. I I shout out
to video Village. I wish you were still there. VV.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Our video village is right here.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
No, video village being like the place where they're watching
it all go down. But I did Troopers too. I
had a small part, but you have to understand, Supertroopers
is one of my ten favorite comedies of the entire
lineage of comedy. It's one of my favorites of all times.
And I mean literally. I used to work at Missus
Fields in the mall. I skipped school to see Supertroopers
(20:16):
during the day with my brother Matt, And within weeks
when I'm working at Missus Fields, I'm doing the meow
game that they do to Jim Gaffigan. I'm like, Okay,
you wanna have done of cookies? Meow? Which one did
you want me? And I'm just like doing it, like
seeing how many I can fit in. Like so the
day I go in to shoot super Troopers, I am
in my bed and I have a panic attack and
(20:38):
I'm crying and I'm literally like reading the Bible and praying,
trying to get in a good headspace because I'm like,
the first movie's perfect, I'm gonna be one of the
people that have set up, you know, yeah, And I
was like so scared and then I got there and
it went fine. But like there is emotional pressure based
on how big of a as they say in the
(20:59):
resting industry, how big of a mark you are for
the person. Now, I've gotten better over the years, now
like now, And once again this has to do with
the match that I chose. You know, Dolph Ziggler and
Luke Harper are not the two biggest wrestlers of all time.
Most people are like the match I'm choosing is Andre
and Hogan are Rick Flair and Steamboat. But for me,
(21:21):
like I am very much attracted to and magnetized to
the lesser known people that do an incredible job. And
and I was always that way, like Peter Sarsguard, Michael Shannon,
Sam Rockwell. I'm fascinated by those guys and I'm more
intimidated by them than a Brad Pitt Denzel Washington, just
(21:42):
because I think it's harder to be that guy. And
maybe they would Denzel and Brad would disagree with me, probably,
but you know that's how I view it.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
I can see that too in our field of a
guy that has a reputation of being like a professional
first one in comes in, does his rehab, does his prehab,
gets his film, and goes to meetings.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Does this that.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Instead of the guy who's like the superstar, like that
like everyone is just famous, but like I'd be more
with my peers nervous around the professional guy than the
superstar guy, because you know what he's about.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
You know.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Where did this fandom of wrestling come from? Now you wrestle.
You started wrestling recently, I think in the last couple
of years. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
I had my first match November twenty twenty three. It
was for a charity event. I thought I was just
going to sign autographs and like take selfies with kids
and stuff. I was just trying to help out and
then dude just asked me, do you want to be
in a match? And I'm like, wow, Sammy Callahan, a
wrestler I admire, is giving me an opportunity to have
a match on a show that has Rond de Rousi
(22:51):
and Jacob Fatu and John Moxley. Like, this is kind
of special. I'm gonna I'm gonna say yes. So I
took some classes and got in the ring, and you know,
a lot of people can say what they want, but
I showed that match to Hall of famers and they're
all saying the same thing. They're like, that's your first match.
I was like yeah, They're like, if you got in
shape and wanted to do this, and we already know
you can act and talk in a microphone. They're like, you,
(23:13):
you could do this thing if you want to, And
I'm like, well, you shouldn't have said that, you know,
And I can't use the excuse on my wife anymore,
like not everything's gonna be a charity event, you know.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
So I got into it and just ingratiated myself and
took took bookings, and you can make a little bit
of money, you have a ton of fun, and it's
a calculated risk. I've always done my own stunts in
my movies. Ninety percent of them. I always do, unless
they literally have someone pull me aside and say, hey,
we talked to the insurance company.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
We're not gonna put you on the firework dead bro right.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
But I uh, but I I dude, I dreamt of
this stuff.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Yeah. I dreamt of getting to do a scene in
a Spike Lee film where I have to dive over
a rock because there's gunfire. Like that wasn't even in
the movie. I said a Spike I it was my
character do and he goes, I don't know, it's not
the script. I'm like, can I can I do something
like can I dive over that rock? And he was like,
can you clear it? And I was like yeah, So
(24:09):
they put some mats down and covered it with brush love.
I did like five in a row and you know,
hit it every time, and you know they the crew
clapped and Spike gave me a hug after it, and
it was like, you know, you you dream of those moments,
so wrestling all the more. The first time I saw
I was like four years old, hanging out with my
uncle watching a free pay per view called Clash of
(24:31):
the Champions. And you know, the first match I ever
saw was arn Anderson and Barry Wyndham versus Flying Brian
Pillman and l Gigante. And now I'm like wrestling brock Anderson,
arn Anderson's son in this company MLW, and it's like,
m dude, Like it's so full circle and so insane that.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
You know, it's like the perfect storm.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Though for you, I think in acting clearly a push acting.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Yeah, well, the better you do on the screen everything,
it's like anything you're that's your number one, that's your
main thing. Keep the main thing, the main thing, and
everything else would come. But like perfect Storm by the
whole wrestling situation. You were a kid, you loved wrestling.
You're clearly a performer. I mean I've watched in Blackbird,
(25:23):
like you know how to you know how to act.
Then you're a fucking actor, bro, Like you're a real actor,
so you know how to act. You love wrestling? Did
you play sport? I played sports.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
I just wasn't like I said, you jumped over rocks.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
So you're showing athleticism.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Right, I I was. I was like Farley where I
was like nimble. Yes I could. I could. I could
tear up a dance floor and kick over my head
and uh take bumps.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Viability, as Tom Brady would say, So you're ap pliable.
You put all those together. I mean, why aren't you wrestling?
You should be wrestling.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Yeah. It's also just you know Eric Bischoff of w
CW fame, he always talked about the buffet of wrestling. Yeah,
He's like, you know, you go to a buffet, you're
not eating every damn thing on the line. You're grabbing
the stuff you like. And it's like same with Saturday
Night Live. You can watch ninety minutes SNL and you
only like two sketches. But now you're quoting that sketch
with your friend. It's part of the fabric of pop culture.
(26:17):
So it's like wrestling is no different. I'm part of
the buffet. There are dudes who look at me and
they're like, I'm not eating that shit. But it's like, Okay,
that's fine, dude, But just know that there's a little
kid who loves Cruella the Disney movie I did, who
shows up and they've never had a celebrity of any
kind in their hometown because it's a small town and
they're getting a kick out of seeing me do a souplex.
(26:39):
They love it. So it's like it's okay, I don't
need to be liked by everybody, but I do have
to have a certain acumen. So I take those classes
with wrestlers and I brush up and I watch a
lot of tape.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Yeah you gotta watch tape.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
I also like, I lost thirty pounds in the last
two months. I got on Mateiro, which is like ozembic.
I like got on that, and I've been working out
and stuff, and like, I feel x.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
People are getting for bettering yourself.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Yeah no, that's the kind of hater ade. You just
can't believe it's even on the shelf. You don't even
look at it. I can't even look at it. As
G two, G two. We're healthy, now are you? It
says asked par tame and a couple of words I
can't pronounce.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
You can't either. I can't read.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
I can't read.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
It's loosely, loosely, loosely true. Take us through your development
of your persona wrestling well.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
I mean I really play myself right now. I'm literally
going as Paul Walter Hauser. And and you know, I
got a couple couple gimmicks of like, you know, merchant
stuff that I have. I have a headband because you know,
everybody loves Cobra kai and they look at me like
I'm sting ray. So I have a karate headband that
says wrestling is not fake. You're fake. I sell those
(27:50):
and stuff. But like, but I'm playing myself.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
That's a little mankind to you. It's still real to me,
damn it, little mankind.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
That's like, yeah, well, I I also do some stuff
he did, like I do I do a summersault sent
on off the apron, which I you know, I saw
mc foley do in late nineteen ninety two uh fighting sting.
He had this innovative reckless offense. So I pepper in
some of my favorite stuff from other wrestlers.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
How sure are you after a fucking match?
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Depends on the match. Yeah, I've I had a match
in Seattle for a company called DeFi and they've been
around for a while, very celebrated, like classy wrestling outfit
in Seattle. But I wrestled Joey Janella, who's like one
of the most dangerous dudes in the game. I mean
he made his reputation off these hardcore matches where he
like severed just and lost part of his finger and
(28:40):
stuff like crazy stuff.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Runny lot he's a running a lot of wrestling, running
a lot mer. He cut off his pinky what San
Francisco forty nine or safety legendary Hall of Fame safety
broke his finger in the middle of a regular season
game and said, cut it off. I'm still playing.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
He makes Lyle Alzado look like Mark we were talking
about the other week. I want to drop those names.
I just want to say Mark Tchimura and Lyles Lyles
Otto off off off the field. Also was in Ernest
Goes to Camp.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
He played the heavy I loved my favorite Ernest. I
saw you have a tattooed. My favorite Ernest was Ernest
Scared straight.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Scared stupid, Stupid Scared Straight would have been another president.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
He already did goes to jail. That one was always
like super creepy to me. I loved watching that one.
It was legitimately scary. The trolls.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
You were like, they're not fun, and the trolls kind
of had a snotty aesthetic to their skin and their face.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Now does John Cena kind of look like Ernest very much?
Speaker 2 (29:43):
So him and Simon Rex would definitely be in the
running to play Jim Varney, maybe any Andy Sandberg maybe.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Now, what's your finishing move in wrestling?
Speaker 2 (29:54):
I call it the house arrest and h h a
U s arrest, which Wahlberg made fun of me for
months over that name. I'd be like, ha us house
arrest and for Houser and he'd be like, wow, that
is so brilliant. Wow, just like he'd be like h
a U s right, and I'd be like, I hate
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you God, I haven't got made fun of for that.
But it's a flat liner where you throw a guy
on their face and I Honestly, I play with like
these action figures and try moves out all the time,
and I kind of created this version of the move,
and I didn't realize it until I was hanging out
with Seth Rollins and Becky Lynch from w W. They
(30:37):
were just they were so, yeah, she's super cool. But
she I showed her the move and she goes, you, reckon,
anyone's done that? And I was like, I don't know
if anyone's done I do it, and she's like, you
might have made up a move, man, And I was
like thinking about it, and I'm like, it's like a
straight jacket style flat liner where you put their arms
(30:59):
behind their back can hit it. I don't know that
I have seen that. So it was cool that, like
this move, whether you want to make fun of it
or not.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Mark call Mark, come all, I'm never eating a Wallburgers
again unless I get a discount from knowing you.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
I had a moment where I was like, dude, that's
really tight that no matter what anybody thinks of the move,
it's like I kind of created it, and that's like
the coolest for me as a kid growing up. It's like,
that's so cool that maybe someday someone else will use
it who's way more athletic than me and looks awesome
doing it. But but yeah, to have your own move
is pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
One. It's so hard to come home with your own move.
I used to get so mad when Diamond Dallas Page
would do the the diamond Cutter and I look at Austin,
Steve Austin, I was like, that's the same fucking thing,
isn't it. It's the same move almost.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Yeah, you're falling instead of sitting on the stone. But
then it Randy Yorton did the RKO which is the
diamond similarities. And by and by the way, uh freaking
DDP learned the diamond cutter from what's the guy's name?
I think his name's A Steele, was it. There's some
guy named like a. It might have been Johnny Ace,
Johnny laureniis uh. He ended up being part of like
(32:14):
the Top Brass and w W and was one of
the Yeah no, but related to that guy, they're brothers,
that's which is yeah, so this would have been his uncle.
His uncle is who DDP got the diamond cutter from.
I think you used to do it in Japan and
it looked really lame, where like instead of like grabbing
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the head and slamming down, it was like he grabbed
the head like lightly at waste level and just like
take three steps and fall with him. So like each
guy made it look cooler DDP and then Randy Orton
with the r KO geez.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
But you made your own move.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
That's fucking sick, really cool straight jacket style flatliner known
as the house arrest, which I'm eventually I'm gonna I
do want to reinvent myself and be more of a
character or I don't want to just be me the actor.
So whenever that happens, yeah, maybe there'll be a new
name for that.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
They'll probably if you go to a different league or something.
That's usually what it happens when you go to like
or or do what Sting did.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Sting stayed in WCW did and he just became like
the crows Sting and it was so over. But it
was over because and I talked to Court Bauer, the
MLW founder. We talk all the time about purpose. It's
like the best wrestling is when the storyline the wrestler
is wrestling for a reason, there is a purpose and
you're fighting against not just a group of guys, but uh,
(33:34):
their ideals and they're their their purpose. It's like if
you can lock into that, that's when people are like
drawn in line the nWo Like these things work because
there's a real story.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Yeah, that's that's in anything I feel. Yeah, what other
actors do you think they could jump into the wrestling ring?
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Us A few men?
Speaker 1 (33:57):
I bet you. I mean that's people don't realize that
wrestlers are like really that they're performing like that. I know.
It's athletically crazy and it is very dangerous because even
if it's choreographed, no, like the movement is still like.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
The riddlest thing could off him.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Like it's so impressive to watch a lot of these
wrestlers go and like be able to entertain thirty five
thousand people or the whole stadium big deal in their
perform and like you're like they didn't even fuck up
their own line and they're coming all off the dome
and the you know what I mean, Like yeah, and
some of them have to be word perfect.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
If if one of the top brass says you got
to hit these words or hit this line, it's like, Okay,
don't screw that up. You got one take. Take what
actors in there? Ethan, super Lee, Ethan, super buddy, Ethan.
He could do it for sure. He's the guy who
lost all that weight. Now it's like jacked. Yeah, I
think there are there are guys like there are guys
(34:58):
like you know, Kevin James wrestl in the high school.
He wrestled with Mick Foley. Kevin James decided to drop
twenty thirty pounds. He could come in and tear it up. Yeah,
I don't, I don't know who do you see?
Speaker 5 (35:11):
Who?
Speaker 3 (35:11):
Do I see?
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Chris Hemsworth almost played whole Cogan. I mean he was
really good.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Yeah, well you can have You could have Wohlburg out
there like as Degeneration X in there fucking giving a
bunch of suckets and shit.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
John Barenthal would be great.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
John Burnenthal would be John bere a very good wrestler,
but he'd be legit. He'd be like a Dean Malenko
Chris benwa style, where you like believe this dude is
just tearing people in him. You know who would be
really good as my buddy Kevin Durant. He's uh, he's
probably predominantly a character actor. I just worked with him
(35:48):
on Naked Gun. But this dude is massive. Oh yeah, yeah,
he looks a great shape. That one of him shirtless,
Click on that that dude. That dude could go tear
it up tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
He could be a good heel.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
And he's a good actor too, Like he's a believable actor.
How about my man from Reaching Bro Alan h.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Guys, and he's a former football player Alan Richson beast yea,
he knows them.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Dude's a killer.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
You're fucking cool' you're good, You're good. Hangs.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
So Jules is starting to do a little bit acting.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Oh you know.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
What's funny is the moment I walked in. Within three
or four minutes. In my head, I'm like this too
good act because no, no, no, no, like legitimately you
know quickly, if you know, you know, And it's it's
somewhat about the look. It's very much about the presence
and the vibe. And then it's also about like, Okay,
well do they want to do it? Because you have
(36:46):
to want to do it too. Some people will be like, yeah,
I got pulled into this thing. I didn't really care,
and I'm like, yeah, I could tell you didn't care. No,
it's it's nice when someone does care and they try
and it's and it works.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
I'm really interested in it, genuinely, I have been. I
mean I used to do a bunch of I always do,
like the the plays in school and like junior high,
I always had an infatuation. I like performing, Like when
we started doing our little spoof videos. I always got
comfortable in front of a camera, and I like making
people laugh with certain things. But it also I'm interested
(37:21):
because it'd be stepping into something I'd be so uncomfortable
kind of really doing that. It's intrigued me.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Now what is uncomfortable The actual act of doing it
or the environment of being like environment I don't belong here.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
No, it's the environment, and it's also the pressure of
being Like in the huddle with Tom Brady, I don't
want to fuck up my job for people that are
taking it like I'm gonna get a I'll get an
opportunity because of my football career.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
But because they're an athlete, they'll have more grace for
you and they'll be more comfortable.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
I know, but like this is their thing. I don't
want to cut you know, Like that's the only that's
the only thing that gets I remember in my life,
all right, remember my life?
Speaker 4 (38:00):
Reading your lines, it's hard to read.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
I can teach you my method for line memorization, which
I stand by.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
It is very much. You only learn one page at
a time, so you'll always kind of know the beginning
better than any part. But it'll make sense to you
because you know each each piece of the puzzle to
where you're not gonna forget the end because you've felt
the the journey of the actual words. You know they
make sense to you because you know why they're there
(38:29):
and knowing why it is part of intellectualizing how to
memorize the lines, rather than just being like and then
you say that, so I say this, it's like, yeah,
cave man, do that.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
Do that. It's very similar to learning an offense. Okay,
you probably when you learn the there's concepts, so you
have a three man concept. One one word can tell
three guys what to do. Now you can learn what
on just what you do in that thing. But if
you learn conceptually, like you say, if you're learning everything,
(38:59):
then it'll come naturally in your subconscious better.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
I feel, yes, yeah, that's exactly what I was talking about.
And it's repetition too.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
Man.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
Perhaps the more I wrestle, you know, I tell everybody
I go to be honest, like maybe I started wrestling
at like a forty five out of one hundred, yeah,
or a thirty five out of one hundred.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
As long as you're getting up.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
But if I get one percent better every match, yeah,
twenty matches, that you're gonna be able to tell the difference.
And I think people who watch my first match in
my fifteenth match state, it's very obvious that you're getting better,
even if it's one percent.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
That's what I said.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
With Tom Brady and his announcing career, I said he
ain't gonna be Everyone asked me preseason, how how do
you think Tom Brady's gonna do? And I was like,
I don't really know yet. I think he's gonna be great,
but I'll tell you one thing. I can guarantee he'll
be different from week one than week seventeen because he's
going to continue to try to improve, and you'll see
(39:56):
his improvement.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
I love that quality and which is the desire to
be better and also being able to recognize like this
is step one, and like I don't have to feel
insecure about Step one because it by nature is step one.
It's not because I'm a Step one guy. It's because
this is step one.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Okay, we'll be right back after this quick break. Let's
let's jump into a segment. We go back in a
time where the game took place, or the match.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
Took this it's so funny.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
I love this. We go over pop culture. This match
took place December fourteenth, twenty fourteen. Number one movie Exodus.
I loved this movie. Christian Bale was fucking stud Oh.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
I hated that movie.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
You liked that.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
I liked that movie. Okay, why did you not like it?
I just thought it was weak sauce. I didn't.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
I didn't buy I just like the story by the
historic of Exodus Stope as shit, and I like Christian Bale.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
Dude, Christian Bale can do no wrong. In my eyes.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
What is bad is my movie? Did that? Just get
mind fucked?
Speaker 2 (41:01):
I don't think no, no, no, does.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
That mean my movie? Bro?
Speaker 2 (41:05):
No, no, Ridley Scott, the Bible, Christian Bale, it is
oh more than okay to like. Okay, I just wasn't
my vibe?
Speaker 3 (41:11):
All right?
Speaker 1 (41:11):
Well, both our vibe we can agree on this number
one song, Blank Space by Taylor Swift. Girl Dad, You're
gonna you're You're, You're gonna be a girl dad here soon.
I've taken my daughter to this concert coupled or we
went to the concert Taylor Swift.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
Is yo amazing.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
How dope was it when Taylor re recorded all her
music so that she had the uh, the owner. But
it's basically her saying fuck you to these people that
she felt were doing her dirty, and so she just
re recorded everything so she can own her own music.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
I thought that was sick. That's sick, But I don't
understand the legal on that. Is it the same exact
song but she knows it's the same song.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
But it's the idea of like, I am recording this
differently so that this is its own thing, and you
can't say that it's identical to the original recordings. It's
essentially me making a pizza at your pizzeria and you're like, well,
now I own your pizza recipe, and I'm like, listen, bitch,
I'm gonna go open up my own pizzeria and serve
(42:15):
the exact same thing. And because I'm using a different
ingredient in the pizza crust. You can't say it's your pizza.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
But I just want to know what the different ingredient is. Oh,
that's what you want to that's the literal nature of it.
I want to know the literal different ingredient of the
song in your Face Scooter Braun. Sony cancels its release
of the interview following cyber attacks. I went to the
premiere of that movie in downtown LA and the vibe
was awkward. It was like it was like it was
(42:45):
like a red carpet, a step in repeat.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
And then a bomb squad. It was weird. That was
a weird premiere to go to. I'll never forget that
North Koreas the thing I remember. I ran into Rogan
in I Love the Hallway of the after party, and
this was I'm sober now, but this is back when
I was like, I was going hard and I was
like drunk walking up to Bill Mark going I love
(43:07):
your show Real Talk, and he's like real Time and
I'm like yeah, And I ran into Rogan. He's got
a he's got a joint in his hand, and I'm
all excited to meet him and he looks depressed, not
because I'm there, but he's like in a mood and
and some like pr person's like, Seth, we got to
pull you away, we gotta hea you talk to so
(43:29):
and so. And he was like, clearly he doesn't want
to talk. And he's hitting a joint and he stares
at me and he goes super slow, like passing the
joint really slow, as if like passing a chalice off
from a king to a pauper. And I take the
joint and I say to Seth. I grab his arm
(43:51):
as he's walking away. I go, hey, man, you made
another really good movie, like as if to say like
I know what this feels like right now to some degree.
And he went, thanks man, and like walked away, Thanks man.
Speaker 4 (44:04):
The studio is great.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
And I hit the joint. It was like I passed
it to my buddy Julian. We're both just like in awe.
We're like, WHOA, Seth Rogan passed us a joint?
Speaker 3 (44:12):
You know?
Speaker 4 (44:13):
His new TV show is awesome in the studio the studio, Yes.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
It looks like the most Paul Hauser show ever. It's
like we're gonna talk about Hollywood and do a bunch
of cool cameos and all the greatest funny people in
the world are in this show.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
Yeah, easy acting. So what was life for you like
in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
I was watching all a dope ass TV Fargoing, True Detective.
Hell yeah, man, hell yeah. Super Bowl Champs, Patriots, Way
to go? That was That was my first Woodhead.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
You wood fan.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
I always liked him. I always thought like a lot
of guys got more credit, but I thought he was
so consistent.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
Man, He's a fucking and he's a great teammate. Worked hard.
Speaker 3 (44:52):
You could tell he was.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
He was a fun guy to be around.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
MVP Aaron Rodgers ayron NCAAF champion for Ohio State. I'm
from Michigan.
Speaker 3 (45:01):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
Hey, shout out Matt Patricia though, Maddy pp Heisman, Marcus Mariota, Mariotta.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
Mariota went to Oregon. He was very good. Marriotta by Bond, boy, he.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
Just signed with someone. Wait what I made a very
dumb hotel. That was a very good Johnvoy Marriotta by Bond.
But that is show by the way. December fourteen, twenty
twenty fourteen. You know what was also going on? What
Jared Fogel. We didn't know he was a pedophile yet.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
Wow, he was still eating something a little we knew.
Think about that. If we didn't know Jared from Subway
was a was a gross little freak, then what don't
we know now?
Speaker 2 (45:39):
Who else is a gross little freak? Who's gonna get
brought out?
Speaker 3 (45:42):
Wow, you're right, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (45:43):
Isn't that a mind blow? That is a random person?
Pick a dumb nerd and glasses who's like I lost
Wade eating sandwiches? Like, who is that now too? They'll
come out to no way, there's always one name was
the deal? That guy intimidates me because he's just got
a better heart than me, intimate. I almost don't want
(46:05):
to meet him just because I'm like, you're a better
person than me. I can't do it.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
He's intimidating because he's given like fifteen hundred circumsessions, circumsessionsmising, circumcision, circumcisions.
Speaker 4 (46:17):
Circumsision, circumcission.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
Circumcision, a brisk He's literally circumcised thousands of kids in Philippines.
Probably gonna get sued for that time.
Speaker 4 (46:32):
That's a little bit for the record.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
It sounds like there was likely a purpose and that
he wasn't just going down there.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. In general,
sounds more more pleasant business. It's actually a very great thing.
He was doing a great thing. But that's intimidating that
he's got surgical hands. It's intimidated to be around steady hand,
steady hand.
Speaker 3 (46:54):
This every show can exist in in like a These
are pretty standalone episodes, but a constant through line is
Tim Tebow circumclasis. Yeah, it comes up to me, comes
up quite a bit.
Speaker 4 (47:05):
You're kind of hitting the greatest hits. Danny wood had
comes up every show.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
Does anyone else feel like their thighs are gonna Dandy
Woodhead would come up to you and he would he'd
have like the funniest, most wholesome way of complaining. We'd
be in there after like seven double days and he'd
sit in his locker and he go chools, do your
hamstrings feel like they're in the back of a Chinese
(47:30):
restaurant getting chopped up by a butcher?
Speaker 5 (47:35):
Time?
Speaker 2 (47:36):
Like, what.
Speaker 1 (47:38):
My hamstrings are tired? He would always come.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
With something wonderful, analogy.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
Wonderful, like, hey, you do your quadriceps feel like they
just got sunken in the I started doing that as
a result of a joke and Anchorman because they keep
walking by smelling Paul Rudd's perfume.
Speaker 2 (47:58):
It probably just like appatite is like he does a
cameo and he goes, smells like the inside of an
artificial leg, bigfoot stick poop with burnt hair on it, Like,
so I do that all the time. I'm just like,
I'll taste. They'll be like, try this sauce, and I'll
put it on my food and I'll taste and I'll
go no, They're like, what do you mean now? And
(48:19):
I'll be like, it literally tastes like a demon saliva.
I'm not eating it, or a good version where it's like,
how how is that water?
Speaker 1 (48:28):
Well? How was the water.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
Tasted like an angel gleaked in my mouth? That's what?
Speaker 1 (48:34):
What about the opening of super Bad when they're sitting
there talking about their mom and learning her that you
had to get a certain porn site so she wouldn't
understand it perfect yeah, and he goes, what did you
talk about? It was like the first time I saw
I was listening to the beetles. Her eyes are like
the first time I listened to the beetles.
Speaker 2 (48:52):
It's hysterical.
Speaker 3 (48:53):
I love the bowling website.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
Super Bad is undefeated. Man, I was dope that because
I in.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
How old are you?
Speaker 2 (49:01):
I was born in eighty six.
Speaker 1 (49:03):
I'm an eighty six kid too, So like that was
right when we were going perfect time, you know what
I mean, in high school, going to college, and it
was like that was our life.
Speaker 3 (49:12):
It was what was super bad?
Speaker 2 (49:13):
Oh seven or six? Can you look at seven in
the words that Joe Rogan, Well, Jamie Queen link to
seven seven, Jamiequeen, link to the Yeah, we'll put we'll
pull link to it. I'm gonna say something outrageous and
then and then not explain it. Well, link to it, Jamie. Sorry,
(49:35):
that's what we're making.
Speaker 3 (49:38):
August seventeenth, two thousand and seven.
Speaker 2 (49:40):
August seventeen, two thousand Okay, But there was a time where, like, oh,
seven to eight, the comedies that came out were ludicrous.
It was it was literally like super Bad, hot Rod,
Tropic Thunder, Step Brothers, and Pineapple Express within a year
and a half.
Speaker 3 (50:00):
It was psychotic.
Speaker 1 (50:02):
I watched Trumping thunder like a month ago. It was
like they couldn't make this movie.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
Now.
Speaker 3 (50:05):
Knocked Up was seven? Yeah, I mean it was knocked
out was good?
Speaker 4 (50:08):
All the time, Dodgeball was four, Wedding Crash five, I mean, speaking.
Speaker 3 (50:12):
Of what I now pronounce each other?
Speaker 4 (50:15):
Yeah, yeah, man, step Brother was.
Speaker 3 (50:20):
Five, Take Me.
Speaker 4 (50:24):
Six, Hangover nine?
Speaker 1 (50:26):
Why did we?
Speaker 2 (50:27):
We had just a streak of undeniably brilliant comedies and
nowadays it's like impossible to find one.
Speaker 1 (50:34):
We're also getting older, and our our our comic, our
comedy is different than the younger comedy.
Speaker 6 (50:39):
That's every general buying DVDs and DVDs was running the
whole comedy market.
Speaker 1 (50:45):
It's probably different in movie industry more, but like in
the locker room, it's the same thing. Every Like the
older guys are always making fun of the younger guys
for being softer. And I looked back when I was
a rookie compared to the guys were playing sure ten
years in the league that I was like, they have
we are soft compared to that, just like or whatever.
Speaker 2 (51:06):
You know, it's just like time. I don't know, Yeah, no,
that I like that. You're coming from a place of logic.
Speaker 5 (51:12):
Too.
Speaker 2 (51:12):
Many people come from a place of emotionality and then
they're unaware that they sound stupid.
Speaker 1 (51:16):
Yeah I sound I come from that place a lot too, though.
Speaker 2 (51:21):
Wow, that's human, but some people overdo it where you're
like you might need you might need to be in
social time out.
Speaker 1 (51:27):
Have you been as off a one exactly? Just jump
into the match.
Speaker 2 (51:35):
Jack Blue Carper aka John Huber was thirty years old
when he did this match. That is for wrestling, thirty
is kind of your prime because you've had enough years
in your twenties to learn the craft in the business,
but you're not old enough to where you're limited in
your move set.
Speaker 1 (51:51):
Thirty is great, I would say in football similar I
would say my primus of the prime years for me
was like twenty eight eight to thirty. It's because you're
you're athletical pinnacle is is still not tapering. You're still
on kind of the up. Yeah, you're at that top,
(52:13):
but your mind reaches, like you're saying, because of the
years of experience, yep, you gain your your mind goes
and now after that year, your mind will continue to raise,
but that's when your athleticism will taper, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 2 (52:27):
Yeah, very similar to the rest the court. That's such
a quarterback thing too, where they hang on and you
want them to hang on till they're forty four to
forty five. But it's like there's only one thirty eight,
thirty nine. It's just very obvious something's changed.
Speaker 1 (52:39):
It's yeah, but it's changing also, and that that that
example is changing just because of the rule changes.
Speaker 2 (52:48):
No offense jewels, But I think I know more about
football news.
Speaker 1 (52:56):
Preposterous.
Speaker 3 (52:57):
It was good.
Speaker 1 (52:59):
I believed it's.
Speaker 2 (53:00):
Very Galfanakus thing to say, you know no offense Julian,
But I think I know more about wearing black clothing
than you do.
Speaker 3 (53:05):
I mean, I'm wearing gray sauce, I'm wearing white.
Speaker 1 (53:10):
Oh, Ziggler, What a stud dude. He's Nicknammoth.
Speaker 2 (53:13):
Hell yeah, shout out to Bay, a real wrestler turned
TV wrestler who also now does stand up comedy.
Speaker 3 (53:21):
Absolute like we alluded to this earlier public absolute workhorse.
Wouldn't you say?
Speaker 2 (53:25):
He's undeniably a future WW Hall of Famer, future TNA
Hall of Famer, the guy put in work like nobody's business,
and one of my favorites for sure. I don't think
he breaks the top ten for me, but he might
be a top twenty for me, for sure.
Speaker 1 (53:40):
Who's top ten?
Speaker 2 (53:42):
My top ten sometimes will change right now, it's for sure, Sting,
Brett Hart, Rick Flair, Chris Jericho, Arn Anderson, Kurt Angle,
Randy Orton, Mick Foley, Dustin Rhodes, and that tenth is
what changes sometimes. But today I'll say, I'll say Raymisterio today,
(54:06):
hell yeah, or Kenny Omega. Either one could be there.
Zigler's top twenty though.
Speaker 3 (54:12):
And we're all about celebrating Kent State Golden flashes in
the nuthouse as Nicknamus graduated Kent State as a career
career leaders in victories one hundred and twenty one, four
time NCAA qualifier.
Speaker 1 (54:25):
What a beast, Dud's a beast Kent State go flashes.
Speaker 2 (54:28):
His brother Ryan is one of the first people to
train me in the ring. No way, I'm forever grateful
for that.
Speaker 3 (54:35):
Hell yeah.
Speaker 1 (54:36):
What's Dove's special factor in wrestling?
Speaker 2 (54:38):
Well, for one, he sells the hell out of the moves,
so he's always making guys look crazy, powerful and good,
almost almost to your own career detriment. I would say,
like a borders on that, uh, But his deal is
that he can He's like the perfect middleweight where he
can do some high flying stuff, but he can also wrestle.
(55:01):
Wressell and do like the suplexes and the body slams. Like,
to me, that was always attractive if you had the
duality of that, and and he had that duality and
could could have as good of a match with Raymisterio
as the undertaker. You know, Sean Michaels had that. Yeah,
you know Sean Sean was like that.
Speaker 3 (55:17):
He draws the Sean Michaels comparisons.
Speaker 2 (55:19):
Concert, Billy Gunn and Sean are very much obvious influences
for him.
Speaker 1 (55:26):
Whose influences on you?
Speaker 2 (55:28):
My influences are undeniably Arn Anderson, Bam Bam Bigelow and
Mick Foley. Those are my three. And I mean I
do the I literally have a move called Brett Bigelow
where I do Brett Hart's side Russian leg sweep. I
immediately stand up hit the ropes into a falling head
butt like bam Man.
Speaker 4 (55:44):
What about for acting.
Speaker 2 (55:46):
Acting, Oh, Philipson, Were Hoffman, Michael Shannon, Sam Rockwell, Peter Sarsguard,
Paul Giamatti, John Goodman.
Speaker 3 (55:55):
For sure, we just got to give Sam some flowers
for his White Lotus performance. Oh my gosh, oh yeah, man.
He might have Marieoi with a nomination over that.
Speaker 2 (56:04):
So good. I have mixed feelings about Why Lotus. I like,
I think it's a little too anti climactic. They kind
of just are like, watch these people on vacation. But
but having having said that, having said that that show,
I've discovered so many great actors just from watching that show.
Like I'm I I love Parker Posi. She's like a
(56:27):
top one or two favorite actor of all time for me,
her and Catherine O'Hara. I treat Kate Blanchette, Catherine O'Hara,
and Parker Posey. Those three women are like Brando to me.
I like them more than Marlon Brando, and I'm a
male actor, Like, I think they're brilliant. But I also like,
they got Steve's on and they got my boy, Walt Goggins,
(56:49):
And I'm like, I can't not watch it even if
I don't love the season or the episode. It's like
they have too many good people that I don't want
to be I don't want to miss the buzz, the
public converse sation over it.
Speaker 3 (57:00):
Yeah, I couldn't agree more.
Speaker 1 (57:02):
I feel like, I'm.
Speaker 2 (57:06):
I gotta know your top three shows of all time scripted?
What are your what are your shows.
Speaker 1 (57:10):
Top three Escape from Dana Mora, Oh, I loved that show.
And they have my jersey and goes dirty.
Speaker 5 (57:23):
No.
Speaker 1 (57:23):
But actually I love prison. I love prison. The p
system is fast, yeah, and I love the escaping prison
and it's a true story. I thought that was a
great the moment.
Speaker 3 (57:31):
Where he says the Patricia Arcady goes oh or whatever,
it's like, whoa bro, I want a choice, man.
Speaker 1 (57:39):
I would put a choice blackbird in there. Oh sick
because maybe Top five no well scripted, And this is
what like. I I just started getting into the deep
deep scripted. And then I also love like the old
I used to love Nip Tuck when I was a kid.
Speaker 2 (57:55):
Nip Tuck was great.
Speaker 1 (57:56):
Remember that move That show was on a heater.
Speaker 3 (57:58):
Then I'm more of.
Speaker 1 (58:00):
A movie person.
Speaker 3 (58:01):
I'm more of a move person too.
Speaker 1 (58:02):
It's so hard because I don't have the time or
the attention span always to go watch eight movies. That's
what these shows are. They're eight movies. Now it's a lot,
you know what I mean. And I'm like kind of dumb.
So I have to like when I'm watching a show,
I gotta like take notes and ship like because I
want to. I want to be able to like remember that,
not take notes, but like I gotta like really may attention.
(58:25):
For me, I gotta go the wire on HBO Wires Insane,
the Wires Sopranos, Man, we're going there. Uh For me,
it's the wire breaking bad because it's just I cried.
I mean there were episodes where I cried. Yeah, television
can make you do that. It's impressive to me.
Speaker 2 (58:43):
And then I love the first like four seasons of The.
Speaker 3 (58:46):
West Wing that showing.
Speaker 2 (58:48):
I watched that show when they lost sort and they
lost the plot. No one gave a shot after that,
But I.
Speaker 1 (58:53):
Didn't watch what that's a little West Wing? That's a
little before How old are we?
Speaker 2 (58:57):
No, I watched it after the fact.
Speaker 5 (58:59):
I was.
Speaker 1 (59:00):
I wasn't like thirteen years old. Yeah, I love to
say yeah Bartlett for President?
Speaker 3 (59:04):
I was, oh, man, I was.
Speaker 4 (59:06):
I watched it after Josh Lyman, let's go, Paul.
Speaker 3 (59:08):
I love you as an actor, man, you're up there
for me. But Walton Goggins, I'm like, I'm a full
fanboy a Goggins Glazer Man, what was it like to
to get to work with the legend.
Speaker 2 (59:18):
It's really none of your business.
Speaker 3 (59:20):
I'm I'll have to wait till I meet the man.
Speaker 2 (59:24):
I know Goggins was listen. I'm a big Goggins guy.
Oh man, I love him unjustified. I love him in
freaking the Tarantino movies.
Speaker 1 (59:35):
Like.
Speaker 2 (59:35):
I think he's awesome. What I didn't know is how
like he he takes acting so seriously, so like devout
and earnest in his approach and talking about it. He's
very giving. He's like a general and emotionally generous guy.
And I had a moment where I like I on
the Luckiest Man America, which we just we shot together,
(59:58):
you know, twenty twenty twenty three. I just had a
very vulnerable moment. You ever cry when you don't plan
to cry? It just kind of comes up out of
nowhere when you're telling a story.
Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
Anytime I watch My Ducks, I was.
Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
Anytime they put that poop in the purse and the
guy grabs it and chases them in fast motion.
Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
I cry over the stupidest shit with like kids movies. No,
I can do that too, so like because it brings
me to my like place with of where you were
with your parents or and that's you know what I mean,
like or like anytime winning happens in a sport movie,
like when the when the team finally comes together. Yeah,
like remember the Titans, Dude, I started crying.
Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
Dude, I'm not like crying at sandlots so much, but
I cry my eyes out. I remember the Titans. He's
like when when he's like when bird Tier played by
the wonderful Ryan Hurst, Yes, when bird Tier starts accepting
wood Harris and starts getting in on his own teammates.
Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
Like, come on, boy, that's right. I like that night
and then we was like you're my brother, Jules. I'm
just like that Stephen's song playing and that is peace Train.
Oh god.
Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
But yes, the random crying anyway, I had a moment
on set where I was telling a difficult story about
how I lost favor with some of my family members
or friends because I chose my wife and I knew
to choose my wife over them. When I got sober
and went to therapy and marrow counseling and took Zoloft
and was like, Wow, all these cobwebs just got cleared
(01:01:29):
in my head, in my heart, and I when I
felt I made the right decision, but it was still hard,
really difficult, and I start. You know, we're like sharing cigarette.
I'm a cigar guy, so like I handed him a
cigaretto or he had a cigarette and we're smoking talking
between scenes and I just start crying and I was like, oh,
trying to pull it back, and Walt immediately Goggins immediately
(01:01:52):
stands up and walks to me and grabs both my
shoulders and my arms and he goes. He goes, you
got your own family, Like you made the right decision,
Like you can stand by that. You can like just
kind of gave me like an emotional pep talk that
he didn't owe me at all, And it was the
sweetest thing in a mental world to me. And uh,
and that's what I mean too by being emotionally available
(01:02:13):
to a cast and crew. If you are so into
your own thing, I understand it. You want to be great,
but I do think there's a way to be able
to make people feel seen even while you're doing your thing.
That's exactly Yeah, Goggins is that guy. Man, He's the man.
Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
That's what the great great ones do.
Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
I think, speaking of crime, when he didn't think you
were gonna cry, geez, you sharing that ball.
Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
It hit me.
Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
Man, Peter Fairley did the same thing to me on
the side of the Wahlberg movie we did, where he
just he was always emotionally available and it meant a
lot to me, and sometimes I get pissed to him.
He'd be like, read the line this way. I'm like,
why am I getting a line? Read like I'm I'm
a very competent actor, but that's my ego. When I
when I step back and I look at it from
(01:02:56):
a different perspective, or I watched the footage, which I did,
Pete was fairly was right nine out of ten times.
Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
Yeah, there's a.
Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
Reason he's Pete Fairley. And you gotta you gotta trust
your coach.
Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
You gotta trust the coach.
Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
Dude, we're a little we're a little tangential, but I
like that we're talking about stuff we all actually care about.
Speaker 3 (01:03:12):
That for sure.
Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
Man, So the nut house brings us. Dude, hear hearing
about two of my guys chopping it up and sharing
that moment that got me.
Speaker 3 (01:03:19):
Man, that was awesome.
Speaker 4 (01:03:20):
Thanks Paul.
Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
Yeah, Man, there's just an onion and a knife in
front of him. I'm like, I'm like, bro, that is
really manipulative. Are you trying to go viral.
Speaker 7 (01:03:29):
Bro show business tricks over here in the Nutthouse. He's like,
oh god, it's been so wow, the game, the lead up,
let's go, my gosh, last night I was last night.
I went down this just again, totally way off the rails.
I went down a long rabbit hole on Nikki with
the Spirit Squad.
Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
Oh I love dude, Spirits Squad is great.
Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
Love that, Oh my gosh. But to get us back
on track a little bit here this was the Intercontinental
title is on the line here.
Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
Which to me is more than the world I see
is like the workhorse belt.
Speaker 3 (01:04:03):
Can you break that down for us between like the
distinction between the.
Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
Two title The gentlemen who have had the ICY title
have to have a certain usually a certain competency in
the ring physically and technically, whereas the world title, you
could just be a big beast of a guy like
Under the Giant, be really big like Mark Henry and
have a smaller mooset and you could still carry that title.
(01:04:27):
So like, the Icy title for me is just like
it's almost like the Sag Award, the oscars dope, but
the Oscar is the world heavyweight title. The IC title
is like the sag Awards where your peers other actors said,
you're the guy. Hell yeah, yeah, yep, Now tell me
the distinction because I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
All Pros voted by players and coaches, Yeah, Pro Bowls
by fans. Yeah, and it's kind of you know, like, yep,
it's it's Internet vote vote. I knew that.
Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
I just want to make sure you knew I know
more about football.
Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
Yeah, of course.
Speaker 3 (01:05:03):
And speaking of the icy title belt, it was changing
hands a little bit around this time, the Miss had it,
then Dolph Ziggler took it from him by.
Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
Miss as underrated. The guy can work in the ring,
he's incredible on the mic. He has been selfless in
his endeavors, and he has made a lot of people
look good. Shout out to the Miss, Shout out the Miss.
Future All Famer.
Speaker 3 (01:05:24):
Hell yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:05:25):
And he's also golfs a lot that I've seen golf
in a bunch of team player. That guy, he thought
a lot for the w W. He's a real world
gay win. He then thank you, and he and Dolf
had a little back and forth there. Dolph took it
from him late summer, held it till November. Then Louke Harper,
(01:05:45):
who's coming out of his his uh, I guess you'd
call it his his time with the Wyatt family with
the dissolution of that, and now he's kind of into
a more of the singles role. Takes it in November,
holds it till our match today where that is on
the line. They had their feud going a little bit
back and forth, some title defenses. You had the whole
team sena versus the authority with the Survivor series going
(01:06:07):
on around this time as well. And this was the
first match of the night at the the TLC event.
Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
By the way, that's also a big deal. First match
of the night is always like decided upon, like how
do we get the audience, the fans in a good
place got it.
Speaker 3 (01:06:21):
It's like you gotta you gotta burn it down. You
gotta grab two ballers.
Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
You know.
Speaker 1 (01:06:25):
It's kind of like when I go to the casino,
the first thing I do is I put five thousand
dollars on black and if it hits, it's gonna be
a great night. If it doesn't, fucked.
Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
Did you learn that from Entourage? No, I guarantee you learned.
Speaker 3 (01:06:39):
That from Ntourage.
Speaker 1 (01:06:39):
No. I learned it from a guy in college that
probably learned it from Entourage.
Speaker 3 (01:06:43):
Okay, bro, those poker.
Speaker 4 (01:06:47):
Games back at Kent State Religion, Yeah, mean you weren't
putting five thousand down in college Kent State.
Speaker 1 (01:06:51):
He walked in, He walked into Quickens Loan Arena with
the Kent State hoodies.
Speaker 3 (01:06:55):
Amen. No better way to start a match like than
the hometown kid coming back wearing the Kent State gear.
The pop was insane.
Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
Yeah, he was so over at this point over in wrestling,
you know, like like with the fans, like you are popular.
He was so over at this point, and he had
that that freaking music he came out too was so
then take it off Noon Noon Noon Dune do Like
it's weird how important the entrance music every and.
Speaker 3 (01:07:24):
All man like when you hear that glass shatters, I'm
looking at cultures.
Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
That gets me every time. No, not nothing, nothing touches that.
Speaker 1 (01:07:32):
Nothing.
Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
It's like that.
Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
I remember his kid getting so goddamn excited when I
heard that glass shatter. Stealing at my boy's house, who
had an illegal box so we could watch the fucking
the pay per view match. He had one friend that
had the illegal box where it was on chan.
Speaker 2 (01:07:49):
I wasn't allowed to hang out with that kid. I
just had to listen to it on the scrambled TV
like it was fully clothed pornography.
Speaker 3 (01:07:56):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
Well, there there was multiple WrestleMania's only went to that
guy's house warm.
Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
Yeah, hey, why don't you come hang out?
Speaker 1 (01:08:05):
More?
Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
Wrestling is not on? Sorry, bro, Jeff, your dad creeps
everybody out. The fact that your dad and your stepdad
are cool with each other weirds us all out. We're
not coming over unless you got Summer Slam. Now the
cabinet has shit snacks select WrestleMania. You can't buy Dorito's.
Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
Your little Debies were a hostess family.
Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
By Nacho Triangles. Sorry.
Speaker 3 (01:08:32):
What makes the.
Speaker 1 (01:08:33):
Ladder such a perfect wrestling prop?
Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
You know, ladders are unpredictable, some of them have you know,
broken mid climb, so like there is an element of
extra sort of danger and uncertainty, which is always fun
for the audience, probably not for the performers. And then
and then also like the idea of like the literal climb,
(01:08:58):
like so much what these guys got I was doing
the story lines is like I'm climbing the mountain. I'm climbing.
It's a literal climb to win and so like I
think both visually and in the circumstantial, and that you
can use that as a weapon.
Speaker 3 (01:09:09):
It's just a visual feast.
Speaker 1 (01:09:11):
Is there any time in your life that you've gone
onto a ladder and not thought about wrestling? Because I do.
I go to I go on my roof at least
once a month, and every time I go on my ladder,
I think about doing a fucking something.
Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
Man'd be really cool to do a moon salt, right.
It's just what hurt quite a bit.
Speaker 3 (01:09:30):
This is just an ocean of violation waiting to happen. Baby.
Speaker 1 (01:09:33):
What's the mount rushmore of wrestling props?
Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
Oh wow, that's a for As much as wrestling fans
talk about wrestling, I've never heard that question. That's brilliant.
I gotta go with some obvious ones, which is chairs, tables,
and ladders.
Speaker 3 (01:09:50):
But if there's a fourth, I don't know what. What
do you think?
Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
Does anything come to mind? I mean I always like
the like tax stuff. I was like, attack, man, I
love the tax I've been on some Yeah, I've been
through those tax Before.
Speaker 1 (01:10:07):
You saw blood, I was like, man, this ship's get real.
I was, I was, I love tax i. I love
the belt. I like the dude, take the fucking belt.
Take someone on that.
Speaker 2 (01:10:18):
That's dirty.
Speaker 3 (01:10:19):
Barbed wire, barb wire, barbar bat stairs, don't sleep on stairs.
Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
Stairs, don't sleep on stairs, and stairs hurt. They make
the greatest noise and and.
Speaker 1 (01:10:31):
It got the league got so smart when they put
the microphone right next to it, so they had mics
everywhere there so you hear them. Mm hmm. Brilliant. I mean,
that's that's the little NFL stole. The NFL stole a
lot from wrestle uh, the w w F when they
took over and they bought the x f L. We
(01:10:52):
we we used a lot of their things, like the steady.
There's a couple other things that we took from RUSS
because there's such great performers. I'm bringing the fan inside
the huddle.
Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
The Falcons recruited he hate.
Speaker 1 (01:11:06):
Me as a joke.
Speaker 4 (01:11:11):
Rod Smart played for the Panthers.
Speaker 2 (01:11:12):
Panthers Goldberg was Falcons shout out to North Carolina's Kevin
Green for wrestling w CW in the midnight.
Speaker 3 (01:11:19):
Not about that. What a beast? Are you right? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
That guy could have wrestled forever.
Speaker 4 (01:11:25):
I got a bit of a new question with regarding
like props and wrestling, so they always pull out ladders
and chairs from underneath the ring. Is that supposed to
be like the ladder was there because they set up
this ring, or is it like that's a prop that
the wrestler, like wrestling, says, Hey there's ladders under there,
and that's a part of the show. Here's your props.
Speaker 2 (01:11:43):
It's subjective, but but to me it's always the second one,
Like the fans aren't dumb enough to be like they
needed those, they needed a barbed wire back, put the
ropes something.
Speaker 1 (01:11:53):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
To me, it's just understood that, like the plunder is
under the ring, the blunder is under Get Wanda down
on the can. I follow up with another new bish question.
Speaker 3 (01:12:05):
This might be better for the fine folks at the
Warner Corporation, but Warner makes a special ladder for the
n CUAA tournament when they cut the nets down. It's
got a bigger platform up top, it's got handles on
the side, nice and safe for all the players and coaches.
What about wrestling?
Speaker 1 (01:12:20):
Are these just straight up ladder?
Speaker 5 (01:12:21):
Like?
Speaker 3 (01:12:22):
Is there any any funny.
Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
Business going on with the I don't as ingratiated as
I am and immersed in this world.
Speaker 3 (01:12:27):
I actually don't know they look like regularly. I don't
think Warner is doing anything this.
Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
I see guys take ladder shots where I've seen guys
power bomb on them and stuff. There are still skid
marks and blood all over their backs, So I imagine
it's a real ladder. There's no real way to like
bump safely on the ladder. You just gotta hope to
God the guy doesn't.
Speaker 1 (01:12:50):
Chang half the wwither c G I dude, you guys
check your eyes for the wold.
Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
This and when when people say wrestling's fake, you have
no idea.
Speaker 1 (01:13:05):
You have no idea.
Speaker 3 (01:13:08):
But in speaking of ladders, this is just an awesome
ladder match. We got climbs, pool downs, weaponizing.
Speaker 1 (01:13:14):
Ladders, great pacing, great pace.
Speaker 3 (01:13:16):
It was just amazing.
Speaker 2 (01:13:17):
But by the way they sold for each other where
there were a couple double downs. Yes, now you're double down,
meaning you know a guy does a sup plex off
the top rope, they're both laid out. You know that's
a double down. So what they did here is they
did not try to satisfy the impatient fan. They were saying,
when we both fall from the ladder, it hurts both
of us. Doesn't matter, and like I appreciate that. That's
(01:13:40):
kind of the MLB thing of like go ahead and
have the lung baseball game. Like I will watch all
of it because I know that this is what it takes.
So I love those moments, and I love how the
whole match really does feel like Jack and the bean sock.
It's like Golf is the little kid, the obvious babyface,
and then the heel is this guy who looks like
(01:14:01):
he's gonna, you know, chase up the beanstalk and kill you.
Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
That's scary. I went down. I went to James and
the Giant Peach when you were talking about the beanstalk.
I don't know why. I went to the movie James
and the Giant Peach. And then I had to like
cross over my head while you were talking about the
bean stocks. Well, and then I thought about Mario because
the little beanstock that always went up, but I always
thought that was the bean stock. Yeah, that's what I
(01:14:25):
literally just thought.
Speaker 4 (01:14:26):
Are you just explaining your ADHD to us? That's that
I saw a squirrel out the window on a.
Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
Very special episode of the Games, We will go inside
the mind.
Speaker 1 (01:14:36):
Oh, Julie what was the what was your favorite moment
of this match?
Speaker 2 (01:14:41):
There was a couple, I think, and this is very
nice that you have the match up opening, uh, middle closing.
I think my favorite parts of the match are, for sure,
when Harper stretches that ladder out onto the announced table,
You're just like, oh, we're not paying this off yet,
but we know it's going to pay off at some point.
I love that tease harper suicide dive. Anytime a big
(01:15:05):
guy does a big dive and you know the way
he landed. If you watch that suicide dive that Luke
Harper did, he lands right on his arm. This is
a three hundred pound man falling on his arm onto
a ladder, a real ladder from essentially if you look
at that photo, how high is that It's about seven
feet So you look at his arm and it's like
(01:15:27):
immediately cut and bruised and bleeding. No, yeah, I love
the reality of that. But best moment is for sure
Ziggler getting that freaking a superkick and knocking him. Wait, no,
is it the superkick what hits him onto the ladder?
Because Harper falls back first onto the ladder, That's like
(01:15:48):
my favorite moment.
Speaker 1 (01:15:50):
Geez, you'd love this match.
Speaker 2 (01:15:53):
It's a solid match. Sometimes I love a movie and
it's like people are like, really that movie. It's not
that they don't think it's good, it's that it's not
as sexy as the more famous ones. And like I
just I'm more into something that I just think is
super solid. Like I always ask my friends the question,
what's your death rowmeal? What's your death rowmeal?
Speaker 3 (01:16:12):
What do you choose?
Speaker 2 (01:16:13):
You can choose anything to eat before you die easy,
And sometimes people are like salmon asparagus, and I'm like, bitch, what,
I'm like salmon and asparagus, and like they're like, so
it's good meal. Sorry it's not sexy enough, but that's
my death romeal.
Speaker 4 (01:16:27):
I love that Jules has devil eggs on it.
Speaker 1 (01:16:29):
I love devil eggs as an appetizer.
Speaker 2 (01:16:32):
You know, I didn't have a devil degg. I never
ate a devil dog until I was at Sun Dance
at the High West Whiskey Restaurant my friend Abby, and
it was the first time I had a devil egg
and I put it off for years. I'm like, it
looks weird. Everybody's mom's making them. I don't know what's
in there? And then I had it, and I was like,
this is the greatest thing in the world.
Speaker 1 (01:16:52):
Now was it a sweet relish devil egg or was
it a spicier double Oh?
Speaker 3 (01:16:56):
This thing had like a sliver of a jalapeno. You
got some sauce and some bacon, and I like that.
Speaker 1 (01:17:03):
Yeah, my mom used to make him with I liked
the little sweeter of it.
Speaker 2 (01:17:07):
My double legg experience was a big deal for me.
I don't know how to Maybe I'm not. It was
like losing your virginity to to like a Dallas Cowboy
cheerleader something.
Speaker 1 (01:17:19):
I understand. Doubl day. I mean, i'd tell my death throat.
Speaker 2 (01:17:22):
Sorry, a New England Patriots cheerleader or something. No Dallas
wat Oh dude, I didn't even know some of this.
But to wrap this up one of them, I mean,
so cool that you guys have the aftermath. I didn't
know half of this. The ending of this match was awesome.
Of course, the hometown kid takes it.
Speaker 3 (01:17:43):
Uses a ladder as a bridge to the ladder that
is still standing, gets up there. Then Luke Carper comes around,
sets up another ladder, so it's a parallel climb. Zigla
hits him with a bow, super kick gets him off,
and he captures that belt words.
Speaker 1 (01:17:58):
He falls off.
Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
Luke Carper received thirteen stitches in his head after the match.
Speaker 3 (01:18:04):
Did not know that brutal ladder, real ladder.
Speaker 2 (01:18:07):
This gave Ziggler's fourth Icy title sixth total. I did
know that Ziggler finally defeated Seth Rollins on SmackDown soon
after that. I guess later that's a big moment too,
because Rollins was becoming a made man around them Big Time.
Rolling Stone named Ziggler twenty fourteen Wrestle of the Year.
Did not know that. I'm sure that match had something
(01:18:29):
to do with it. Ziggler held the belt for twenty
two days. Oh what a trash rain. That is bad news.
Speaker 1 (01:18:38):
Bear it.
Speaker 2 (01:18:39):
I'm sure Vince McMahon made that decision.
Speaker 3 (01:18:41):
It seems like a Vince decision.
Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
Dude, he's the dumble. If everyone's like, you can't take
away everything Vince did, though, I'm like, yes, I can
beat shit. Ziggler remained perfect in ladder matches. Love that's
you know, that's cool. That's like when a team is
like undefeated in a city, it's like we've never lost
in Detroit.
Speaker 1 (01:19:02):
Yeah, Luke Harper passed.
Speaker 2 (01:19:03):
Oh that sucks. I'm buddies with. His wife is the
widow Amanda Hoober. I see her at a w all
the time, and she is the sweetest, coolest. Her kids
are awesome. She still loves wrestling and and and you
know she she burns a bright light for him.
Speaker 4 (01:19:21):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:19:21):
And when I can't imagine how hard that is, man,
she she burns a bright light that.
Speaker 3 (01:19:26):
Lady shout out to her. That's that's tough.
Speaker 2 (01:19:29):
Luke Harper for being one of the greats.
Speaker 1 (01:19:31):
Manu r I p for real, that's awesome. You picked
this match. What's the legacy of this match? For me?
Speaker 2 (01:19:40):
It's just a great match to go back to for
entertainment value.
Speaker 1 (01:19:44):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:19:44):
For honoring the guys who weren't at the top top
most of the time, and and also just teaching the
young guys how to do it and say, like, look
at the pacing and look at why the moments matter.
They're not doing nine million flips and nine million chairs
like they do today. Why do you think that is?
It's so that you appreciate it when it does happen. Yeah,
(01:20:06):
So this is just a style that is almost going away.
With the current trends and and you know Huber and Ziggler.
It's also I think they had good chemistry. I don't
know that they knew they would have that chemistry, but
they did. They had great chemistry. And that's you know,
when we talk about Breton Sean, the chemistry there, when
we talk about you know, Rock Austin, whoever this is,
(01:20:30):
this is one that I always go back to. I'm like,
those guys are good chemistry. I like that. I like
and actors too. You know, it's fun to watch a
movie and go the movie was good. It didn't win
like a bunch of Oscars, but like, man, I got
to see, like the movie The Judge. You're watching Robert
Downey Junior and Robert Duvall. Yeah, I know it's not
everyone's favorite movie, but it's still.
Speaker 3 (01:20:51):
Duvault great.
Speaker 1 (01:20:53):
Chemistry.
Speaker 2 (01:20:54):
Jeremie Strong Vicentinafrio.
Speaker 1 (01:20:56):
Would you trade your Emmy for a wrestling belt Championshi
Intercontinental Belt?
Speaker 2 (01:21:01):
Damn, that's like a hard question to answer on camera.
I Well, people don't really vote on belts either. You know,
that's like an executive decision to have people vote, and you.
Speaker 1 (01:21:14):
Never have even that, you would never give your Emmy
for a belt. But like, hypothetically, would you.
Speaker 2 (01:21:20):
If somebody said to me, if somebody did a pre
mortem and they were like, you know, yo, you can
either be an Icy title holder or win an emmy,
I would want the Icy title for sure.
Speaker 1 (01:21:33):
That's what I thought, just from getting to know you
a little bit on the couch. Right now, you definitely
take the title. We'll be right back after this quick break. Now,
let's name this game and score the game. Is this
the greatest game of all time? Let's score it. These
are some names that we came up with. If you
have a name that you have in your head that
(01:21:55):
you want to use, we can use that. But here
are some things that we came up with. Shows dealer,
disrespect my authority told you can't read tables, ladders and chairs.
Oh my Cleveland, this is for you. I'm getting my
belt back cut, and ladders, shooting ladders, shoot latterers. Play
(01:22:17):
like that one check Checkov's ladder, Checkoff's ladder, checkofs ladder.
Speaker 3 (01:22:23):
Alluding to that ladder that it was precariously plays from
the ring to the announcer's table. That that's too smart
for me.
Speaker 1 (01:22:30):
We see exactly. I'm right there with you, Bubbs, I
can't even read it. Or do you have something else?
Speaker 3 (01:22:37):
I think I like boots and ladders, ladders, Luke carp
with that.
Speaker 1 (01:22:42):
Boot, boots and ladders. Score the game? Is this the
greatest game of all time? Let's score for the game.
The steaks of the game, zero to ten decimals. Okay,
you got to score the stakes of the game.
Speaker 2 (01:22:55):
I'm just I'm gonna say, uh, like a seven.
Speaker 1 (01:22:59):
Seven, it's integrity type score. I'm going with seven as well. Intercontinental,
It's not not I know, it's I know, we went
down the differences. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:23:09):
Yeah, it's still not the big dog though, And it's
not Russell Mainner or Summer.
Speaker 3 (01:23:12):
It's like, it's yeah, I'm on the seven nine. I'm
in there. Continental man, oh straight three.
Speaker 4 (01:23:18):
Just it's it's entertainment product versus like super Bowls and stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:23:21):
What about the star.
Speaker 2 (01:23:23):
Power of this at that time? Being realistic, that's probably
a five point fives.
Speaker 1 (01:23:32):
Being honest in integrity, Yeah, you got to be honest man,
five point five as well.
Speaker 2 (01:23:37):
I can't worry about Nick Namath watching this mule. What
do you mean it was a five point It's like, bro,
I'm not your favorite movie actors. I'm not your number one. Like,
it's okay, we can say what it is.
Speaker 1 (01:23:48):
I'm went with the six to four.
Speaker 4 (01:23:49):
I had a five point one.
Speaker 3 (01:23:50):
We're on the same ballpark here.
Speaker 1 (01:23:52):
Game play or the match play, oh man, to me,
it's like a like a nine. It was a great match.
Like you said, everything was methodically thought out. It wasn't
just oh, let's throw a chair here on the show,
let's build ship up.
Speaker 2 (01:24:09):
Yet it's also the two men they don't nowadays they
always have people running and like, oh, the guys who
are friends with the wrestler are now helping. It's like
there were no run ins. We didn't need a bunch
of cameos.
Speaker 3 (01:24:21):
It was just two dudes. Imano, mino, mano.
Speaker 4 (01:24:24):
I'm gonna go with eight eight six at eight point one.
Speaker 3 (01:24:28):
Anytime a six foot seven guys doing a dang suicide
dive out of the room gets me going.
Speaker 1 (01:24:34):
Now we score the name of the game, the name
of the match, cultural impact of the cultural impact, boots
and ladders, zero ten decimals.
Speaker 2 (01:24:44):
Okay, oh, cultural impact, it wasn't really there unfortunately. Yeah, no,
I would say like a.
Speaker 4 (01:24:50):
Four, four, four point five, I go five to had
a old seven to three at a one point two,
I was high.
Speaker 3 (01:24:57):
I was going high.
Speaker 1 (01:24:58):
Where does his score on all on all the games
that we've done and matches we've done, it's a.
Speaker 4 (01:25:02):
Six point two that puts us right at eighty one,
ahead of the fake Spike game twenty thirteen, Week eight
Lines versus Cowboys, and just behind the Gilbert Arena sixty
point game two thousand and six or two thousand and
six game twenty three Wizards versus Lakers?
Speaker 3 (01:25:20):
Very solid?
Speaker 2 (01:25:22):
Where is that list online? Can I read that whole
list somewhere?
Speaker 4 (01:25:25):
I should publish this.
Speaker 3 (01:25:26):
We can send if you guys go on post that.
Speaker 2 (01:25:28):
That'd be so fun for people to then like search
those out.
Speaker 4 (01:25:30):
Here's the top gay Man. The I Quit match is
thirty three here?
Speaker 3 (01:25:34):
Oh wow?
Speaker 2 (01:25:37):
Any other wrestling match?
Speaker 4 (01:25:38):
Yeah, the Becky two belts when she won when Stee
headlined WrestleMania thirty five two belts, Yeah, that's twenty first.
And then where's the Sean Michael, the Iron.
Speaker 1 (01:25:46):
Man that Austen fought Kevin Owens, the Iron Man match
from WrestleMania twelve, Michaels and Brett Hart, where's them? Thirty six?
Speaker 4 (01:25:57):
Thirty six right here.
Speaker 3 (01:25:58):
Yeah, we had sewn michaels On for well, at.
Speaker 1 (01:26:00):
Least you guys actually have like good matches. Yeah, like legit,
like I know what all those are.
Speaker 3 (01:26:06):
Yeah, as a head, Paul, do you have any that
we should seek out to do?
Speaker 1 (01:26:11):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (01:26:11):
Yeah, absolutely, and I could. I could put you in
touch with some dope wrestlers and I love that. Uh,
you definitely got to interview Wahlberg because you're a patskuy.
Speaker 1 (01:26:24):
Me and Mark we're pretty friendly. He's cool dude. When
you brought that in, I didn't want to say, like,
I'm I'm boys with Mark too, But Mark's actually been
a He's when I was a young football player. He
actually was a really cool dude. Like he was he's
mister Boston and so like if you get the call
from fucking Mark Wahlberg to come to do his house
and hang out, yeah, like that was like, you're you're
(01:26:47):
getting welcome to the city.
Speaker 2 (01:26:49):
You gotta have Wahlberg on. You gotta have my boy.
Diamond Dallas Page on DDP has got a couple of
classic matches for sure, but one of them is, oh
my god, him and him and Macho Man Randy Savage.
Savage made his career. Yeah, there was a moment backstage
where arn Anderson was like the agent producer of the match.
(01:27:10):
It might have been Spring Stampede or Great American Bash
ninety seven. Macho He's like, what do you want to do?
What do you want to do? And it's Randy is
the one in charge. Randy can say what they're gonna do.
And Randy goes, I think, don't want to take the
Diamond cutter tonight. And Dallas is like cool, yeah, and
he's and arn Anderson is surprised and he goes, yeah,
(01:27:34):
I'm not kicking out, you know, basically saying like I'm
not only letting you win, but I'm taking your finish.
I'm gonna and like that match was kind of what
made DDP. Yeah, so you gotta have him on. And
then that guy's got to watch one of his matches
with Savage because they're you want to talk chemistry, those
two were Peanuburg.
Speaker 1 (01:27:53):
Jelly, Oh, we're definitely wait heck yeah, I got the
chill in the back of the neck for that. You
do a good macho man, like, like you're setting of
how you do it, because I would do macho man Savage.
Speaker 3 (01:28:10):
Yeah, like.
Speaker 1 (01:28:13):
You're an actor, you can know how to do that.
Speaker 2 (01:28:14):
Austin man. I was doing Austin in Austin impression last night.
I got invited to a Laker game, which I felt
like a little kid, you know, I get to go
to the Laker game, there's free food. Well, who I'm
you know. I still feel that way all the time.
But I was talking with wrestling fans and and just
kind of holding court and we were talking about how
Austin three sixteen came to be. It was like Austin saying,
(01:28:38):
you talk about your Bible, you talk about your John
three sixteen.
Speaker 1 (01:28:43):
Ohuston three sixteen, he says, not just whipped your rith
And it's like.
Speaker 2 (01:28:48):
It's crazy that he just like improvised that line of
of promo and it became the best selling T shirt
for twenty years or whatever still for the company.
Speaker 3 (01:28:56):
Brilliant, Oh brilliant.
Speaker 1 (01:28:58):
Paul Sure Jesus is so out you know him Jewish right?
You are?
Speaker 5 (01:29:06):
You are?
Speaker 2 (01:29:07):
I wouldn't have even done.
Speaker 4 (01:29:08):
That makes the circumcision makes more getting.
Speaker 2 (01:29:13):
Just kidding, Uh, that's hilarious, awesome, one of the greatest
to ever do it. He's on everybody's rushmore for a reason.
Mine is a little more skewed. But like, if I'm
doing a definitive amount rushmore and I'm like, you can't
pick your favorites, tell me, like, just pick the best
to do it, Hogan, rock Flair, Austin, Right, what are
(01:29:42):
we doing over here? That happens on movie sets sometimes
what happens. You'll be in the middle of a really
serious scene.
Speaker 1 (01:29:48):
And now give me a director that will fucking motherfuck
someone and give me a director is like, oh, it's
all right, guys.
Speaker 2 (01:29:54):
I think most of them are are pretty chill about it.
It's more of the actors because like we're trying to
do our best work. And then like some random dude
on the crew is just like watching MLB Network on
his phone and he forgot to turn and he didn't
know that it got unplugged from his headphones for a second.
Like suddenly we're like, is that bob Yucker? I'm trying
to talk about it being molested as a child in.
Speaker 3 (01:30:15):
A monologue just a bit outside.
Speaker 2 (01:30:19):
Well, shout out to Bob Ucker, all right, legend, legend,
shout out to Peter Gammons, and shout.
Speaker 1 (01:30:27):
Out shout out to you for coming into the nuthouse
and letting us get to know you.
Speaker 2 (01:30:33):
This is so fun. I wish I could have done
three four hours.
Speaker 1 (01:30:36):
This is this is awesome. Everyone go out and check
him out in the Luckiest Man America in Theater out today, Yes,
out today, April fourth, starring Paul Walter Houser and Walter
Walton Goggins. Paul, thank you so much. Check him out.
Speaker 2 (01:30:55):
Uh oh this yeah, I mean you'll by the time
this drops you have missed it. But we are in
Long Beach April fifth. We are having an event. It's
called Battle Riot's a big deal looking up on YouTube.
You can watch it for free. And then, of course,
yeah we got we got our next pay per view
type event May tenth in Chicago.
Speaker 3 (01:31:13):
Yeah, it's gonna be.
Speaker 2 (01:31:14):
A barn burner. And we've been putting all of our
pay per views up on YouTube for free live to
night they air, so like we're showing a lot of love.
Show us back, click that like and subscribe and see
what Major League Wrestling is up to.
Speaker 1 (01:31:27):
Man, it's been so awesome and it's been a pleasure
to get to talk to you about your acting career
and your interest and your love for wrestling. Thank you
so much, and anytime you need us for anything from
the nuthouse, come hit us up.
Speaker 2 (01:31:41):
Bro A beautiful jew and a beautiful gentile sitting here
in harmony. A brilliant athlete who people are just gonna
find out that he can also act, a brilliant actor
who people are just gonna find out can get physical.
Speaker 3 (01:32:00):
And that's how we ended.
Speaker 1 (01:32:01):
What a fucking job, good ship man man. How cool
is Paul Paul Walter Houser. He's like, he's got such
a cool vibe because you have this this thought process
of what he is because of the roles he's playing, yeah,
freak free. Yeah, and and he's like such, he's a
(01:32:24):
really smart dude and he's very eq awesome, so cool,
Like you could tell you could put him in a
room of anyone and he can get along with people.
Speaker 3 (01:32:35):
He's our kind of guy.
Speaker 4 (01:32:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:32:36):
Any I love learning that he started from comedy.
Speaker 3 (01:32:40):
Yeah makes sense.
Speaker 4 (01:32:41):
The whole we all did a really good job that
whole episode of not stealing any of his lines. Jamie Taco,
Yeah shut up, we weren't Jamie Taco. So we good
job in that house for you know, letting him say
his own lines and get him out on his own time.
Speaker 1 (01:32:55):
Did you see a clip of him yeah, uh jumping
off the ladder ladder Yeah, unreal, dude. It was in
Long Beach, Yeah, it was.
Speaker 4 (01:33:02):
I think the day after we recorded.
Speaker 1 (01:33:04):
He had ladders on the brain. After that that ladder
match recovered. I wonder if he may have thought of
us at the top of I mean, he had to
have this one's for jewels. I don't think like that,
but I mean we did talk about it for we
did two hours. Let's kill Paul. Look at Paul.
Speaker 3 (01:33:23):
Oh, that's gotta hurt. That's a man that does his
own stunts people.
Speaker 1 (01:33:31):
He said ninety perspectable. He said, if the liability person
comes out and says you're not allowed to do that,
I wonder what Tom Cruise says to those people.
Speaker 3 (01:33:40):
He probably says, get lost, I'm jumping out of this.
Speaker 4 (01:33:43):
He probably puts in his contract and it's like I'm
doing I'm freaking contracts.
Speaker 1 (01:33:50):
He owns the movies.
Speaker 4 (01:33:51):
He's no, he doesn't.
Speaker 1 (01:33:53):
We even talked a little that scientology with Paul.
Speaker 4 (01:33:56):
One time. I thought I was so cool. I was
like kind of like a snarky edge lord whatever. Walking
down Hollywood Boulevard by the scientology place and they're all
doing their bullshit, and like one time I was like,
can you help me with my career? And they like
grabbed onto that. Oh no, and they were like they
wouldn't leave me alone. It was like freeding a pigeon
in the park the street, like that will help you,
will help you. Have you heard of Paul Haggis.
Speaker 3 (01:34:16):
We can introduce you to Elizabeth Moss.
Speaker 4 (01:34:21):
Obviously I didn't take him up on the offer.
Speaker 1 (01:34:24):
Bro, I just got to say.
Speaker 3 (01:34:25):
The one thing that's it's sticking in my mind is
Paul came in here and dropped Danny woodhead references, Jim
Varney references. Shout out Ernest.
Speaker 1 (01:34:35):
Bro like drop he got them tattooed on him.
Speaker 3 (01:34:37):
Awesome references, Dude, it's so cool.
Speaker 1 (01:34:40):
I love his What was his? And he he had
a list for everything, Leo Lyle.
Speaker 3 (01:34:48):
You give someone a top five list, like, ah, he's
got he had a top fifteen prepared, he got ten and.
Speaker 4 (01:34:54):
He had like different like, well, that's the list of
all time greats, but this is my personal list.
Speaker 1 (01:34:59):
He said, very well thought out.
Speaker 3 (01:35:01):
Man.
Speaker 4 (01:35:01):
I can't wait. We only talk about too much. But
he's gonna play Chris Farley in a new biopic coming out.
I can't wait for that.
Speaker 1 (01:35:09):
I can't wait to see his new movie. We're gonna
I'm gonna watch it tonight.
Speaker 3 (01:35:11):
Look his man in America?
Speaker 1 (01:35:13):
Is it? Wait? Is it in theater or is it
I'm gonna go Maybe I go to the theaters tomorrow night.
Speaker 3 (01:35:20):
Take me with you.
Speaker 1 (01:35:22):
I'd be so down, brother. It looks like it's just
out in theaters at the moment. Let's fucking go, we
get I'm looking to take a hand in America. Dude
cracks the hack. Honestly, it's basically a biopic of Ernie
Adams in the stock market. Yes, beating the system, beating
(01:35:42):
the system from what I've heard. Yes, he's never told me,
but I guarantee Ernie, like warm Buffett took all his
fucking money out this two weeks ago and he's just
like this. I wonder how the tomatoes are gonna be.
Speaker 3 (01:35:57):
Ernie, you got any tips? Well, if you wouldn't buy
the whole company, would you buy one single share? That's
your answer.
Speaker 1 (01:36:03):
I was like, all right, invest in things, you know.
Speaker 4 (01:36:07):
Should we get Ernie back on we go back to
Boston in football?
Speaker 3 (01:36:10):
Yeah, give me give me something that will get me
insider trading. LYE like, I want to be right on
the edge. Give me something that's not insider trader, but
it'll give me a tip right up to the Martha
Stewart line. Come on, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:36:22):
I wonder how you could like buy stocks on a team,
like not actually the team, but like the team coming Well.
Speaker 1 (01:36:27):
They tried to do that years ago. I remember Drawed
Mayo where you could invest into the player's contract, but
they'd have to pay out dividends or something. I remember
Mao talking about this when we were playing. I know,
I think he may have done it or something, or
there was guys that were doing it where you could
sell out your your career earnings. It was like a
(01:36:48):
thing where I don't know, I.
Speaker 4 (01:36:50):
Guess it's kind of getting a future like Vegas.
Speaker 1 (01:36:53):
I think I found yeah vestible, I think, oh man,
no free plugs here though. Imagine if you didn't like
like JaMarcus Russellers something, what what happened?
Speaker 3 (01:37:08):
Short?
Speaker 4 (01:37:10):
I want a short why short attitude?
Speaker 1 (01:37:16):
Honestlyback the Shadoor Sanders thing. I've been thinking about this
because I love Dion I really I really love Deon Sanders.
Ever since the time he bought my dinner at the
Super Bowl when I barely knew him, but he it
was the coolest thing ever.
Speaker 3 (01:37:32):
I loved.
Speaker 1 (01:37:32):
Where was that?
Speaker 3 (01:37:33):
What restaurant?
Speaker 1 (01:37:33):
Where we at? Red Bull or something nice? Minnesota?
Speaker 3 (01:37:37):
Tight?
Speaker 1 (01:37:39):
Maybe they're doing this so that he does slide, because
the more you slide, the better team you go to,
the better situation you go to. Who the fuck wants
to go to New York with these guys? I love
day Ball. I think he's a spectacular coach, but that
that operation right now, like you know, the pressure that's
(01:38:01):
gonna be there, that coaching stat like you know what
I mean?
Speaker 3 (01:38:03):
Who wants to go to New York?
Speaker 4 (01:38:05):
The only upside is neighbors got.
Speaker 1 (01:38:08):
Some good ship and Dabell Dabell is the only upside.
But like I don't I think they may have They
may have cashed too much of that that what is
it called the equity of being a coach for the
next year.
Speaker 4 (01:38:21):
But Patriots, we should be hyping him up. Yeah, him
and the Giants would be a great fit.
Speaker 1 (01:38:27):
Now, I think you do is going to be better
than what people think. Maybe because every putting this high
standard on him. If he goes to a place and
he gets to learn under another quarterback. I think he's
gonna be I think he would be pretty good Giants
under who Russell Wilson and Jamis Winston. Maybe I just
(01:38:48):
talked myself into the Jackets gone to the neighbors.
Speaker 3 (01:38:56):
It is New York.
Speaker 4 (01:38:59):
They are you making any They stuck out with.
Speaker 1 (01:39:05):
Sanders went to New York. They want to he wanted.
Dion would look like a fucking He would look like
a he was. He would look like the Wizard of Oz.
Here's why, Giants, he would look like the Wizard of Oz.
You gotta win win scenario with the Giants for Sanders.
If he goes there and it's not a good year day,
both probably done. Maybe Dion has a great another great
(01:39:29):
season and he's open for a head coaching position. Yeah,
but you I want I think if he goes and
does well, he does well and everyone's happy New York,
New York A. I don't think Dion wants to go
I don't know. I have no clue, but I don't
think Dion wants to go to pros.
Speaker 4 (01:39:46):
No.
Speaker 1 (01:39:48):
He he reup making an impact on young people's life.
Speaker 4 (01:39:52):
His impact in college football is like going into the
living room and saying, I'm fucking Dion Sanders come to
my school. Here's some money that's like his like, because
he's not like an x's and o's guy as like
as much as the other people. So he's like a
fucking recruiter type.
Speaker 3 (01:40:07):
Yeah, he's extended through twenty twenty nine football, you don't.
Speaker 6 (01:40:09):
I mean, obviously he's been on some Super Bowls now obviously,
but you go into a two different organizations. You're Francisco
forty nine ers and the Dallas Cowboys played the late
Baltimore Ravens, which was a championship foundation.
Speaker 1 (01:40:21):
He knows winning football. I don't know. We'll see. Well,
that was a great interview with pauls Houser. That's a
guy I'd love to have back in the nuthouse. Gonna
have him back in that house. Also might run lines
with him in the near future.
Speaker 3 (01:40:35):
That was awesome.
Speaker 1 (01:40:36):
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Speaker 3 (01:40:52):
Yeah, join your brother boom sound. It's five o'clock somewhere right.
Speaker 4 (01:41:03):
Facts all right, Jack, take this away?
Speaker 1 (01:41:07):
What are we doing right now here?
Speaker 3 (01:41:08):
Since this is a wrestling episode and we talked Macho Man,
any chance we get to talk Macho Man?
Speaker 1 (01:41:14):
We're talking him, talked to him with Paul. Don't even
know him that well, just love watching it, write Tam.
Don't even know the story, what he's about. I just
am so entertained by him.
Speaker 4 (01:41:24):
Is it possible to even know Macho Man? Randy Savage?
Speaker 3 (01:41:27):
I think we're all Macho Man in our own ways.
Who it's always how is macho man? Not? Who is
Macho Man? Anyways? We mentioned this in the episode. As
we have been a part for a little bit of time,
Jules Kyler and I, we stayed in touch, not by text,
not by phone calls, but by Macho Man memes. Distance
(01:41:50):
makes the heart grow fond or all that stuff. All this, Oh,
I can't do the long distance thing. All you relationship
therapists out there, prescribe some Macho Man memes and I'll
get You're right. So in honor of that, we're gonna
go down memory lane, so to speak of some of
our favorite Macho Man moments and react. How do we
(01:42:10):
sound about that?
Speaker 4 (01:42:11):
Guys?
Speaker 3 (01:42:11):
Because a feel about that. Sorry, ready, the.
Speaker 5 (01:42:16):
Pukester's helping me to the left, and no, Pukester's helping
me to the right.
Speaker 3 (01:42:22):
Didn't need him then, don't need Now.
Speaker 1 (01:42:27):
We gotta start using Pukester more. I think, I mean
you gotta use pukester be the amount of what is
in his system for him sweating perfusely. His eyes look
like like that is that's you know, if you want
to capture intensity, that's captured intensity.
Speaker 3 (01:42:48):
Yes, right there, macho man, Puster.
Speaker 1 (01:42:51):
You didn't need him, then, don't need him now, Fuster,
don't need him, No, you don't.
Speaker 3 (01:43:00):
Here's a fan favorite, fan favorite. I'm talking about all
the weight to the top year.
Speaker 5 (01:43:06):
Justifire way in a position that I'd rather not be in.
Speaker 2 (01:43:10):
But the cream rise to the top.
Speaker 3 (01:43:13):
Oh yeah, my true madness Year has got more creams always,
right always.
Speaker 1 (01:43:20):
I wanted to just keep on going in. I could
have watched that for another ten minutes. There is I
kept it close for it. Yeah, it's it's good, the
abridged version.
Speaker 4 (01:43:29):
You should just start like committing to the bit and
just start having creamers in your pockets at all times.
Speaker 1 (01:43:33):
I do it on Fox.
Speaker 3 (01:43:35):
Every time.
Speaker 4 (01:43:36):
Everything's about that season, like thinking about the origin of that,
like was he just like waiting to go shait?
Speaker 1 (01:43:42):
They talked about it. He literally said he he came
up with it in like two seconds, right before they
were about to do he had nothing. He's like, watch this.
He pulled out some creamers and now I look at it.
Wrestling history bro pro pros.
Speaker 5 (01:43:58):
A woman's psychiatry and she said it was o CD.
Speaker 1 (01:44:02):
One cool dude, CD. You're so o CD dude, one
cool dude. Yo, we got pukester. We're gonna start using
o CD. Who's the pukesture of the team. That's what
we should started asking the next, the next who's the
O C D of the team? The one.
Speaker 3 (01:44:24):
It'll be a litanus test to know if you're cool
or not. Like if we say puketure, you'd be like, oh,
I know what is a pukester?
Speaker 1 (01:44:29):
Though? This Is it just someone who's puking, like vomiting everywhere?
Speaker 3 (01:44:34):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (01:44:34):
Is it the punky that got too hammered at the party?
That's it's got to be in the slappy world, like
he's in that family. I feel like just a little weasel,
like let us know, we know, let's get some justification
of what we think Puchsture is and how we're gonna
use it, because we're gonna start using that and OCD Yes,
they will both be part of the regular lexicon. Next one, Oh,
(01:44:55):
another classic.
Speaker 4 (01:44:56):
If you're a personal friend of Rod Stewart, as I understand.
Speaker 5 (01:45:00):
He did Tonight's The Night Man, he called me on
the phone right before it was released and he says,
macho madness. Yeah, he calls me madness. He calls me madness. Yeah.
And a lot of people out there, you know, they're
getting in the macho madness. Really super strong in macho madness.
Speaker 3 (01:45:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:45:17):
Grown, grown, grown, and more seductive than sex.
Speaker 4 (01:45:22):
You can't say that. I can say that.
Speaker 2 (01:45:26):
I can see that the heavyweight champion of the world,
Elizabeth looking through the video.
Speaker 3 (01:45:32):
You can't say that. You can't say that. I just
said it.
Speaker 1 (01:45:37):
Elizabeth was a baby.
Speaker 3 (01:45:38):
He was man. I love miss Elizabeth.
Speaker 1 (01:45:39):
I love he was a rider. Die Macho Matt. He
didn't finish the story with Rod Stewart.
Speaker 3 (01:45:45):
I know he just that was the that hooked me,
hearing Macho Man and Rod being on the phone like
maybe he did, but he didn't finish it, so I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:45:53):
He gotta get back to. I'm starting to if anyone.
Speaker 4 (01:45:56):
Has any details about Nacho Man Rod Stewart friendship, please madness,
hit up the hot line.
Speaker 1 (01:46:01):
He calls a madness. Maybe we should have Roger Stewart
all to talk about.
Speaker 3 (01:46:08):
Two Nights the Night. Oh you think sexy?
Speaker 1 (01:46:12):
Yeah, yeah, my mom loves rog studish Jesus Christ. Maggie,
I got something say you.
Speaker 3 (01:46:24):
It's late September. Yep, Maggie may a classic.
Speaker 1 (01:46:28):
All right, let's let's what we got.
Speaker 4 (01:46:30):
And this is Ricky the Dragon Steamboats.
Speaker 2 (01:46:32):
Cup of Coffee in the Big Time.
Speaker 3 (01:46:34):
Yeah, cup of coffee in the Big Time. I would
Paul reference that match in our episode cup of Coffee
in the Big Time, of coffee in the big Time,
the big the big Time.
Speaker 2 (01:46:46):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (01:46:47):
Where's the big time? Just like the big like the
big leagues. I wonder if that meant a city.
Speaker 3 (01:46:51):
I don't know. I would just thought it meant like
all Ricky this team, but just got all he had
was a little cup of coffee. Ricky the Steamboat, Yeah,
Ricky the Steamboat, remember him, Ricky the Dragon Steamboat. Sorry,
Ricky the Dragon steam See what's interesting about him is
his real name. It's one of these weird instances where
his actual given name is cooler than his wrestling name.
His real name is Ricky Blood. That's way cooler and steamboat.
(01:47:13):
Let's go with your real name.
Speaker 1 (01:47:14):
It's Macho Man's real name.
Speaker 3 (01:47:15):
I think it's Randy Poffo. I believe we're.
Speaker 1 (01:47:18):
Gonna do a book report on him, maybe start seeing
who we really are watching. Yeah, Randy Mario Pofo Mario
aka Macho Man. He's Italian. He's gotta be Italian. I
guess so I didn't Macho Man was Italian.
Speaker 3 (01:47:36):
I didn't either. Southern the Pride of Southern Illinois University. Also, Oh, Carbondale, Sorry,
that's the real that's the name in Southern Illinois. Yeah. Sorry, Hey,
don't forget about that Edwards Villa in there, s I UI,
it's more of a branch campus. Branch campus. Oh, Jackie,
get shout out, Macho Man.
Speaker 1 (01:47:56):
Oh that was so fun, Oh man, Macho I could
watch those all day, all day. That's that was a
fun show zone, so very fun show zone was And
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gwn and remember celebrate responsibly in those Mountain Blue Cold
(01:48:19):
Colorado Rockies. Yeah, well, what a match, What a wrestling match.
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