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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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in your mind.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
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the truth, escapegoating, and they ain't know where we speak
the truth, so they ain't quoted because we wrote it.
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
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Speaker 1 (00:21):
It ain't no stopping and once to be drop sad
by then the system is so corrupt they threw.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
The rock out their heads and then blame it on us.
Don't get it twisted on colding. We danced to put
no butterment biscuits. It's Willy d y'all ghetto boys in
the house back with another episode of information and instructions
to help you navigate through this wild, crazy, beautiful world.
In the studio, Marcus Wiley.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
What a do aka Bishop sec he did with it?
He got killed? You killed him, Mama, we got I can't.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Kill vision secular man on the road man.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
I should have, but I really wasn't into social media
at the time because back then the radio stations wouldn't
allow their personalities to use social media because they looked
at it like they didn't want you getting.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Bigger than them, not things reversed.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
They need you to do it to promote they stuff, right,
But this when it was kind of fresh, it was
kind of new, so we would get banned and fine
for social media. So I just kind of separated myself
from social media from jump Street. And I had I
been thinking, I would have took you know, bisch of
Secular and made them something that I probably could have
did on social media.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
I think you should still just resonate Bishop Secular, just
because it's such a dope idea, it's such a great character.
Somebody's gonna do it, for sure, it may as well
be you, because I think you would be really pissed
if somebody came up with that and you put that
out there, and you because I know some other people
(02:00):
have seen your routine. Sure and they've seen that like, yeah,
that's dope, that's dope, and.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
A lot of people ask a lot of people, you know,
say the same thing you just said. But I think
my problem with it was that, you know, once upon
a time, Bishop Seculer was bigger than Marcus D. Willy,
and I would go show up and do shows as
Marcus d. Whler, as me, and people be like I was,
(02:25):
like I am, And so I was really ready to
kill him because he was kind of overshadowing me, you
know a little bit. And my bills don't come in
Bischom Seculer, they come in Marcus d Whet and so
you know that's why I cut the blues.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Well what about bringing him back in an animated form?
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Yeah, that'll be dope. Yeah, if I had the right people.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
You know, come on, man, you connected, say you be
working with five William Morris, got got a got a
deal over?
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Man, are you still with a snapchat? You still work
with this? No?
Speaker 3 (02:58):
No, all that's old.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
But but yeah, but but still, man, you move around.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
I do a little something. But you know, a lot
of that stuff is fluff. I mean, you know, you've
been in the business a long time. People associate you
with stuff, but you ain't in the way it suggests
you in if I may say it that way, you
know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Right? Yeah, so you were you wasn't in to make
the decisions. Yeah, yeah, power sign.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Yeah. You know it just looked good, but it wasn't.
It wasn't what it was.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Well, you know, man, you you still gotta use well
you still have the you still have the right to
lay claim, but association.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Sure, no doubt. I got connect.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
I'm connected a little bit and you know, yeah, yeah,
you and.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Your London y'all still connect.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
We just left lunch. Yeah, just was at lunch eating.
She told me tell you what's up too, because I
said I had to come kick it with you and
Hello London, no doubt, no doubt. Yeah, but we still
you know.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
This man, that's.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Oh yeah, she made it else, you know, on that
show now Kingdom Business and they just got picked up
for their second season and just got Green Lid for
their third season. It's a series that come on BT
Plus and then it falls on BT and so yeah,
she working on that. But you know, she got some
new music all that's coming out. So we was talking
(04:21):
about the tour and you know, all this whole different stuff.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
How long How long did did y'all do that morning show?
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Ten years? Your London's Morning Show?
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Ten years?
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Ruh, Yeah for ten years?
Speaker 2 (04:32):
What happened?
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Yr London was too big for him, bro, And at
the end of the day they said, of course they
didn't want to pay. But you know, women get a
bad rap. So your London is a boss, right.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
And can can cannot not be a boss on that level.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Right, So she a boss and the stuff that they
white may wanted her to do, and she would turn
it down. I'm not doing that, you know, if it
didn't make money. You know, it wasn't made sense to
her type of thing. She wasn't about to be using
pimp and all that type of stuff. And they didn't
like that. You know most times, you know, they want
to control it, they want to control the person and
all that, and so, uh, it just ran its course.
(05:16):
So when it got to the ten years, the contract
was up, and uh, and we kind of knew they
weren't gonna renew it, you know, because they didn't want
to kind of deal with.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
A boss.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yeah, because because that's that's that's that kind of hurts business. Yeah,
when you have one person who is a stand up person,
they stand on something, you can't push them around, you
can't just pimp them, and that ain't good for the
pimping business, you know, like, yo, man, you're gonna miss
(05:49):
around to get some of these other people. I did exactly,
So we rather just they'll they'll call it split chemically.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Yeah, yeah, you know, yeah, basically that's how I went
and so you know, ten years was up.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
It was good though.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
You know, open up a lot of doors, create a
lot of opportunities. Yeah, but you know when it runs
courses over and so we was cool with it. Yeah, yeah,
it was cool with it.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Man.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
You are the son of a pastor, grandson and great
grandson of pastors.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Wow. Yeah. Did everybody expect you to become a pastor?
Speaker 3 (06:24):
For sure?
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yeah? That was And when you told them that you
wanted to be a comedian, did you tell them you
wanted to be a comedian or that he just looked
up one day and saw you telling jokes?
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Yeah, they kind of looked up because I didn't even
know I wanted to be a comedian. But what happened was,
you know my father, you know, he passed in on
nine and you know he would have loved for me
to take over his church. It was right over there
in the Overbrook addition of south Park, across macawar railroad
tracks off Barefoot and yeah, his probably dying wish was
(06:53):
for me to take over that church, but uh, God
blocked it. That what I like to say, I just
you know, man, I ain't never really want to be
no pastor or you know, nothing like that. I didn't
want to go into quote unquote the family business. But
the jokes they started coming around the same time. I
was working at this church and doing what I was
(07:15):
a director of events. So what I would do when
the marriage ministry wanted to have an event for the marriages,
they would come to me and I would put it together.
Same for the singles, same for the revival the pastor
gonna have I put the revival. I was the first
cat with this march gladness where we had the pastor's
come in and we announced him like it's a basketball game.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
He's from Indianapolis, he preaches at such such church.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
He come down the iron and they would have on
they you know, they cities unit and you know, just
made church a little bit more fun and all that
type of stuff.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
So I was just direct, the creative director of all
that type of stuff. Whatever the church wanted to do,
they would bring it to me.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
So I was hosting an event that I put together,
a Christmas gala, and man a lady there who owned
the coffee shop, she thought I was a comedian, had
called the church and was like, yo, I want to
speak to the comedian that hosted y'all Christmas Day and
they was like, no comedian.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
She was like, you're the host. They was like, oh,
you're talking about Marcus. He ain't no comedian. She was like,
but he was funny. Can I get in touch with him?
Speaker 4 (08:19):
They gave him my number because actually I had put
in my two weeks notice at this church. I was
getting ready to leave. I was leaving and I just
stayed on to do my lastly event that I had
been working on. And so she reached out to me
and was like, yo, I got on the coffee shop
in pa Land, and I would love for you to come,
you know, do our one year anniversary. And I was like,
(08:39):
I ain't a comedian and she was like, but you
was funny. I was like, yeah, I'm funny to the
people that know me, you know at the church. And
she was like, well, I had five hundred dollars. Oh
when because at that time I was probably only making
will it twelve hundred dollars a month at the church.
Now I she's trying to give me five hundred dollars Friday,
(09:01):
I said, yeah, I ain't never been good at math,
but I've been fantastic at money. So I said, yeah,
this I here, and so that's how I started right there.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Wow, that is that is an incredible story. But what's
the time you hear about comedians they say, well, you
know I first started, man, you know, I just I
just trying to figure out what I wanted to do it.
Then you know, one day I just went up and
jumped on stage on amateur night and you know I
had five minutes and yeah, then I got booed and
(09:35):
all this kind of stuff. Yeah, man, so you were
you were kind of like, so you're in invertinly Inverton comedian.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Yeah, yeah, watched this. Never done an open mic, I've
never done that.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
I started making five hundred dollars most comings, gonna tell
you they started getting paid with drinks, weeds, having sell ticket,
sex or twenty five dollars gas money. I started my
first comedy show five hundred dollars and so and that's
good money to some comedians today. You know what I'm
saying to get five hundred dollars. So it was definitely
(10:13):
I felt God sent, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
And so what happened.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
The reason why I'm clean because the church is, I mean,
the lady who owned the coffee shop.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
She wanted no cussing, no vulgarities. So I started clean.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
That attracted the churches that was coming in buying up
all the tickets because they was using it for getaways
for they particular ministries. By me being a church boy,
growing up in it, working at the church, I know
church Now, this is my lane, you know what I'm saying.
And so once I started seeing seeing how profitable it
was and I could see I could see being successful
(10:50):
in it, I stayed in it.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Now once you had the five hundred dollars first time,
the five hundred dollars is the bar? Did you think
after that, like, Okay, I'm finna make five hundred every
single time I go out, Yes or more yes, and
then and then you have to fall back. Yes.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
So folks on a college I got two fifty two
fifty two. Yeah, oh definitely, reality chick come in now.
The ain't coming in because especially folks that's not in
my lane. So when I started, and you know, the
comics here, I leave Terry Groves, Dave Kier, all these guys,
we all kind of start around the same time. They
a little bit before me, but pretty much the same time.
(11:30):
We around the same age. So when we I would
pull them in to do shows and I would give
them money on in my lane, in my world, and
they would pull me, but they money wasn't the same
as mine. I'm pulling them in. You know, I'm going, Yo,
here is and this is back at back in that day.
Here is five hundred dollars. Here, four hundred dollars.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
They pulling me. Here's one hundred dollars. Here's I'm losing.
Coming over here with y'all. I need to you stay
over in my world.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
God, God, Man way butter y'all people tying over here,
we can tie it off right over here.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Know what's going on in y'all lane?
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Yeah, So what explain to me? What is when the
church meets the club? What's that about?
Speaker 4 (12:20):
So that was so I've done well, I've done I
think sixteen projects. I've been doing comedy twenty years. I
think I got sixteen projects that I've done in twenty years.
And when the Church went the club, I think that
was maybe my fifth project, one of my favorites at
that because I felt like it's a thin line between
(12:41):
the church and the club. So I'm a theme writer,
so everything I write about is it got a theme
to it. So it's a thin line between the church
and the club. You got people who hang out at
church like it's a club, you know, like my mom
and my grandmother and them, that State Club. Even though
it's church, it's stay club. They just everything they do
(13:02):
is at the church. So you got folk who hang
out at church like it's a club. And then you
got folk who go to the club religiously. Okay, these
people come every Friday, every Saturday.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
They in the club.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
You know, men try to holler at women in the
church and the club just the lingo was different, but
men gonna try to shoot, They shot regardless, you know.
So it's just so many similarities with them both. And
that's what that whole project was about. I was just
exposing all the similarities of the church and the club
(13:35):
in a funny way. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
So when you were doing that, were they any pastors
when you would go in certain churches that felt kind
of like funny about that, Like they look at you like, yo, ma'am,
we can't have you back, thank you?
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Yeah, I think you know, because at that time, comedy
was still a little taboo in church, you know, so
a lot of church, especially tradition churches. They really weren't
feeling it. But I think because they knew my dad
and grandfather and they trusted me. I wasn't coming in
there to piss on their congregation, you know what I mean.
(14:11):
I wasn't going in there to tear down anything that
they have built up. So I think proceed. Yeah, I
think I came in with a little trust, so they
received my jokes maybe a little better. Plus I know
the bid you know, I know I would throw all
that in my jokes, so they know, oh he no
Bible and stuff like that. And I think that that's
(14:31):
what helped me, And maybe not another comic who just
coming there with jokes but really don't have no foundation
in the church in them, you know type of thing.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Have you ever merged the church and the club and
went too far? Ah? And somebody took exception to it?
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Yeah, I mean not an offended people, you know, because
we live in that time now where.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
So the church folks are offending what I don't.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Man, I was at a church one time, will I'm
in the church, I'm in Dallas, and I was doing
this joke about being straight heterosexual, and I was talking
about how man, I just really found out how unpopular
out of style heterosexual men are. Right, I'm just going
with my little progressions with the joke, and I'm saying,
(15:23):
you know, we don't have any clothing line. You know,
because I was in H and M and Mason's they
had pride, where we don't have a mascot, you know anything.
You know, the gay community got the rainbow. We don't
have weekends and we don't have months, and you know,
(15:43):
just just I'm just saying we out of style. I'm
not talking about the gay community. I'm talking about the
heterosexual How we out of style?
Speaker 3 (15:53):
We don't have nothing.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
So any way, I'm going something that they ought to
be proud of. Come on, you know, we go around,
we're at the bottom.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Now we're at THEI So I'm doing my thing at
the church. Man, I get off that stage.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
People loving it. I mean because it's more more too
what now, But that's the basis of it. I got
off that stage. Man, this preacher coming to me, Hey man,
you need to go apologize. I said, apologize about what
you up there? Talking about gay people? I said, no, no,
they not listening. I'm talking about straight people. I'm not
talking about gay people. He said, well, I'm getting text messages.
(16:26):
You know you need to go apologize. I say, what,
big dog, I ain't gonna lie to you. I'm not
going up there and do no apologies because I ain't
did nothing wrong, you know what I'm saying, and so
you know, it is what it is. So he was like,
oh yo, cause he wasn't the past of the church,
but he was the pastor underneath you know whatever.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Church club is the same stuff.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Yeah, And so I said, yeah, I ain't going to
do no apology though, because I am you know, I
would never maliciously come in somebody church and try to
you know what I'm saying, Like I say, tag anything down.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
But it is is what it is.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
And I think he probably was was it was gay too,
though I think man way, I didn't do it. And
so you know, that was one time where you know,
they I ain't been making that church since. You know,
another joke I do about for by taking Henderson Honeybun
instead of the.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
I said a grape juice and the cracker. I upgraded
to Henderson and honey Bun. You know, I do all
this ere once your boy, they didn't not like that.
Oh they were, they were hot that I don't know.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
And that's what I'm saying. I try to What I
try to do is let you know it's regular. Real
people in the church stop without the front. That's why
folks be like our church faith. Just you could be regular.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
You know what I'm saying. It's okay if you drank,
you drank.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
I mean, you ain't going to hell because you drank
bro and all that, and so I just kind of come,
you know, from that approach. But some churches, you know,
they not ready to to receive that. You know, they
just hear the word Hennerson he talking about hens. You
know they you ain't connected the dots or nothing.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Every saint has a past and every center has a future.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Sir, Look at you?
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Are you yeah? I mean you know you're just saying, man,
I can I can put it off every now.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
I already know.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
I see you. I checked you out. That's how you
got to do your screen man, And may be scared.
They'll do anything you tell me to give her that money.
You remember that pastor used to come on late at
night from all that rolling.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
We's out.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
You had to man, I used to man, I made
the mistake of falling asleep one day and this with
the with the TV on and that food came on
and scared the hell out of me. I'm laying in
the bed all it's all peaceful in itself, and all
of a sudden, I used God, your mind was playing
(18:54):
tricks on.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
You had to get it off.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
So this dul was like, yeah, sister, what you're doing,
I'm gonna praay for you right now. Okay, I'm ia
pray for you right now. Uh what we're gonna do?
Uh God, I want I want you thirty five dollars
to get your handkerchief. Yeap, thirty five dollars to get
(19:17):
your prayer handkerchief. And what I'm doing for pray for
you right now. God help sister Williams get this house
and get a new job, and and and I also
fix a car.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
He thought that I went in't had nothing else to say.
He was getting money though, Yeah, he was getting money.
You know how I know because my grandmother. Man, listen,
you go to my grandmother house. Everything they sell on
those on those inspirational you know, things like that, my
grandmother got them ole. It's the holy water, the handkerchiefs.
(19:57):
What she got them the sand from jer It was
a lumber in a little box.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
She got them all.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
I'd be like Grandma said, she ain't missing up blessing.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
I said, granted you are.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
I'm going to if I got to go, I'm going
to heaven.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
She's going to TV Heaven. Make come on man. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
So I know he was getting it because if you
up there, you advertise it, you're getting it.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Yeah, you're getting it for sure, you getting good boys.
Reloaded podcast will be right back after squeak.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
How does one get how does one become holy? Horny? Okay?
Speaker 3 (20:44):
So how to live holy when you're hornet?
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (20:46):
So I looked up the word holy. This another project
Holy mean I mean horny. I'm sorry. Horny means expecting.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Sexual no seeking, I'm sorry, seeking sexual gratification. That's horny
seeking sexual gratification.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
So I looked at it.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
You know, play on words in church, how to live
holy though when you're haunted? So I you seeking blank gratification.
A lot of people in church, they come every Sunday,
they praying because they want stuff. They seeking stuff, whether
it's they horned for money, horning for relationship, horning for
a career, horning for whatever. And so my my thing
(21:27):
on it was when you haunt it though you don't
hear straight, you know here that you don't you know
you don't hear straight.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
You know, I've been a.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Teenage boy, college boy. I already know you know, when
I want it, I'm just trying. I just want the
green lights. And so I was just saying, so, how
do you live holy when you're horn it? Basically the
whole point was you gotta kind of got to kind
of wait, you know, don't make a bad decision. A
lot of people in life, I feel have made some
(21:58):
terrible decisions because they were horny, meaning they wanted it
right then, you know. And even when I teach in class,
that's what I try to tell my students and stuff
like that. Avoid trying to get everything right now. You'll
get it when you get it, but stop trying to
do what it take or whatever you need to do
to get it right now. I had the same opportunities
(22:21):
sell sell you know, people think because you're in church,
like you you just don't you don't know nobody, you
know what I mean. I had opportunity to sell a
little wei, you know, make a little money, all the
little scams they was doing in college. I was right there,
could have did tomorrow, but you know, I was just like, naw,
you know, I'm gonna I'm gonna wait it that because
I feel like, you know, I'm gonna get it when
(22:42):
it's my time. And so the whole point of that
through jokes was just that's how you little holy when
you're haunted by waiting on him to open the door
for you, opposing you going out there making these moves
you know that might be penitential chances.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Now, did the church receive that?
Speaker 3 (23:01):
They did. Some of them hung up. Now, don't get wrong,
they get hung up on the words horn it. Oh lord.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
I mean some people they're gonna be turned off, just off,
rip off the title, you know. But those that was
coming to these shows, they received it, got it, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
But you couldn't just have a you couldn't just jump
in with that type of analogy in the middle of service.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
No no, no, no, no, no no no. These was
comedy show Friday night, Sunday nights at the church. Though, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Do church people pay better than the secular people?
Speaker 3 (23:39):
In my lane?
Speaker 2 (23:40):
I mean.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
For my where I'm at in my geltry, yes, yeah,
but I think overall no, But for where I am
in my career, yes, you.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Know, have they ever ridden your hot check? Ah?
Speaker 4 (23:54):
In twenty years? I have had two checks? I think
that didn't in twenty years? And they fixed them. I mean,
so I ain't gonna hold them. I ain't gonna hold them.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
They made it right. But yeah, two bounced checks in
twenty years.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Yeah. How often have they tried to get you to
perform as free as a service to the church? Oh no,
that's all that's part of your time?
Speaker 3 (24:20):
No, yeah, no not at all.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
Because see sometimes people are called my office and I
might answer, you know, I answer.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
I take calls too, you know.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
No, no man know how much I needed but me
and so I answer the phone and I give them
the fee, and they be like, oh, I thought you
did this for the Lord, And I have to tell
him now, I don't do this for the Lord. He
give me the ability to do it. I do this
for mortgage. I do this for card notes.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
They care. I don't do it for the law. The
Lord give me the ability to do it, but no,
I don't do it for him.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
It's sort of like an activist, man, because activists they
have to pay their bills too. I mean they got
they worked and they serviced the people. But you know,
they got children, they got mortgages, they got card notes,
they got to eat.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
I gotta eat.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
You know, what do you expect them to do? So
some people just trip me out. They just expect that
because you're in the service industry, you're supposed to just
do whatever you do for free, for free. But the
trip part about it is that many of them are
also in the service industry and they get paid. They
ain't got no problem getting their check every week, every week,
asking for it and raising hell about it. Yeah, yeah,
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for y'all. Yeah, man, how was it growing up in
the household with your father a pastor? How was that?
And did you feel any pressure? Man?
Speaker 3 (25:42):
My dad was.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
I tipped my head out to this because you know,
I do these preacher preachers kids conferences across the country.
They had these preacher's kids covered. Not for the kids,
not for little kids, for people our age who still
messed up. They upraising the upbringing, you know, and you know,
I go there, we talk and form and they tell
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my man, my mom and dad were so strict on me.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
They never let me do nothing.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
So once I got out that house, I just went
you know where, And so we have all this and
I didn't know it was that serious until I started
doing these conferences. People still mad at they moms and
there and they farted fifty years old still And so
for my experience, answer to answer your question, man, my
dad was he was one hundred man.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
My dad told me.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
He said, man, listen, I did not want to be
no pastor. He was working for Specs Liquor, and he
said he was enjoined. Look him working for Specs and
making his money on the side, because I think he
was probably stealing some stealing. He was bootlegging some respects,
litter out of his truck when he leave work. So
he said he was living it up. But then he
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said he got the call, you know how black people
called it. Got the car kept his life kept being
you know, so boom. He joined his church and he
was associate minister at the church for a little while,
still working at Specs, and then uh he started preaching
across Houston and then one of the churches they was like, yo,
we like your style, swag, your word whatever, and we
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want you to be the pastor. And so my dad
said he had to let the specs go, and then
he became the pastor you know, of that church. But
he was like, but he never never wanted to do it,
and so he would tell me, so, look, unfortunately, you
my son, and I can't get the other what he said,
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you my son.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
So I can't get the.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
Other kids at the church to do stuff if my
son don't do it. So you got to be like
the leader. So I've been like a leader all my life.
Like he just told me, you got to lead, m
I mean, you got to be the leader.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
And so this is how we get paid. I mean,
this is the family business.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
So at church, man, I was always the you know,
when we had Sunday school and vacation Bible school and
all that type of stuff. I would always have to
be the one to get up when they say, hey,
what did y'all learn in this high school class? I
couldn't just sit there with it, like, man, what y'all learned?
I always had to be the one to get up,
hey with what we learned today about you know, to
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lead it off and then people follow suit. And so
I've always been like, you know, and like I say,
even though it was maybe not fair, he explained it
to me.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
It's so clear it was like you got to do this.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
You know.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
It wasn't done to me like that. It was explained
to me. And so I never really had a problem
with it. So you never felt pressure, never felt pressure.
I've always been a celebrity, and I mean that from
I was a celebrity in the church first, you know
what I'm saying that.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
You know what, man, I'm glad you mentioned that. Because
pastor's children, the children of the pastor US liberties, people like, oh,
that's the past.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Son, you can't do nothing.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
The reason why we the reason why they flipped. So
so like for instance, if I would come around somewhere
and boy smoking weedy, h he go, he go markus
or your daddy kill you. You know your daddy kid,
you smoke now because I was a leader and I
ain't really didn't even want it. I was like, yeah,
he probably would, but I don't want to smoke. But
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other preachers kids, they want to show them that they
are regular too. So now by passed the weed, y'all
still on we what a cocaine at because they they
want to show I'm not only am I regular, but
I'm even I'm way better or way worse than you,
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you know. And so they always go to extra mile
to try to be normal, you know. And that was
what a lot of preachers kids suffer from. Now, preacher's
daughters loved them because they always trying to get back
to their parents. Always daughter love of prison's daughters.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Ain't that amazing how that works out? Man? Like you
got a father who's in the house with you, you
got your mother in the house with you, and they're,
you know, giving you these values, and they giving you
a good home and a lifestyle and all this stuff.
And all you got to do is just basically follow
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some rules like not act sletty yes for lack of
better word, but that's a word. And you decide, you
know what I want to be study like I don't.
I don't want to do all these things. I don't.
And I think what happens a lot of times is
that these pastors they try to make their daughters perfect.
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For sure.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Oh it's a lot of pressure.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
That's and that's a lot of it's a lot of
pressure for anyone to be perfect, anybody, because none of
us are perfect. Will never be personal. But I have
seen a few pastors, including my best friend, who did
it the right way. Okay, you got to give them
a certain amount of latitude as they go along and
as they age, you know, and they got to have
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a little bit of freedom. You cannot just lock these
kids up, man and expect them to do everything right.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
If you hear them stories from them, Pridgers kids conferences,
how they can listen to secular music, couldn't go to
the movies, you know, see all this. I didn't have
no problem with these type of things.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
I couldn't even have friends.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Yeah, some of them. Your friends might come over there
all that.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
See.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
I never experienced that.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
So that's why I never felt any unwanted or on
you know, unviewed pressure on me because you know, I
still play ball at woolow Ridge, and you know, I
was still just a regular guy.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
They just told me the whole theme at my house,
if you're not the leader, you can't go naw, that's it.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
Because my mama she like, hey, if I get a
phone calling middal Lie, you at And they said, yeah,
one of your partners had something, monument and all that
type of stuff.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
I don't care nothing about your partner. I'm coming to you.
I'm coming to you, don't. That's just how I was.
So for me, everything was if you ain't the leader,
you can't go, but I could go. That's what I'm saying.
It's just that. But you be the leader when you go.
So that was the whole, my whole little thing.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
What was it like walking the house of willow Ridge
High School?
Speaker 4 (32:31):
Well, it's I'm sure you've heard Willy, it's it's it's
the first HBCU I've ever attended. Before I know anything
about historically black colleges and universities, willow Ridge was was that, man,
it was.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
It was the greatest high school. You know.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
I know they catch a lot of flack and they'
not what we used to be back then. But back
when I graduated, I came out ninety one. When I
got there, man, it was it was just a great
man class and character was what they taught to see,
all these black folk, black teachers, everybody just you know,
pulling love and support into your you know, your friends
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and then your peers was all.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
You know. Good.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Of course you had fights regular school, but but it
was a real good.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
Family environment you ever had a fight in school. I've
never had a fight in life, really never.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
My son has never had a fight. But I'm proud
of that though, because because here's here's the thing. Man.
You know, like I've had enough fights several lifetimes and
several people. Right, but I think about today like, man like, man,
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you have a fight today, you might not make it out.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
You might not make it out. Now, that's true.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
You might not make it. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Back then it was just fighting.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Yeah, it be a fighter.
Speaker 5 (33:59):
Men.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Yeah, you take take your lumps or whatever. Yeah, and
you brush it off. Yeah, you know, you're going about
your business. But you live, you walk away. You know.
Now these kids, man, they pulling out.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Guns man like it's a video game.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Yeah. It's like they don't get the concept that, man,
this is forever. Once that bullet lead that chamber, it's whatever. Yeah,
that's a permanent decisions for sure.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
Never had a fight, now, that don't mean I wasn't
supposed to. And plus I had guys who when I
would talk that talk you know, nah, then they'll come in,
Oh he don't fight.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
But but I do, right, Yeah, so you know what's up?
Speaker 2 (34:38):
And I just be like yeah right, yeah, but.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
I try not to start them either though, because I
know I'm not fighting and I don't want to put
my guys in the horns way. But you know, when
you play sports, sometimes guys you know they gonna just
you know, we're talking hooping and I could talk with
the best of them. Yeah, but now they want to fight,
and I'm well, I didn't I didn't know he was fighting.
I just thought we were just talking.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Now you know, now, were you're the guy that when
you win, you rub it in or you waited or
did they have to say something for.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
No, no, no, no, I was nice with it willly.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
So the thing about it is, I don't really talk
noise until the noise starts, until it comes. Now I'm
gonna again my mouth pieces been been on ten since
a kid. Yeah, so I'm not even so whatever you
talking about it, it's gonna be worse now. So and
you know, now I'm winning and talking and so now
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they want to get aggressive if they want to push in,
you know, try to make you want to fight, and
I'm like, man, I even I'm not fighting, like I
already know, I ain't fighting, I'm just talking, right.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
But then when they get to the point I may
pull you. Yeah, what's up, dope? Now? Well, now to
he come the boys?
Speaker 2 (35:46):
You know?
Speaker 4 (35:47):
So it's because I wouldn't even talk if the boys
wasn't not there, not the balls not there.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
I'm super silent.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
That's what John Moran needs. He needs a couple of
boys hanging around and so that he don't have to
flash guns.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
I don't even I don't even feel afraid. I don't
even understand that. I'm still trying to understand that to
this day.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
If you were a job Morant's father, I.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
Wouldn't be sitting courtside without my wife. That's what if
I was Jamrant's father. So aesthetically it don't look good,
you know, just I would man parents are still together, yes,
And so what I'm trying to say is I ain't judging.
I'm just sharing. I'm telling my partners. Esthetically it don't
look good.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
It just don't.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
I'm not gonna live. I caresusly through my son. I'm
gonna be proud of my son. I'ma sit in there,
I'm gonna be up in the stands. I'm gonna be
up in the sweet because that's really what I want
to be eating. Have mid little cocktail.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Those sweets are nice.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
When the food good. You already.
Speaker 4 (36:47):
I'm chilling, and just that I'm not gonna be courtside
acting like I know everybody kicking ahead, Kiki kning without
my wife sometimes and then and that's what I shared
with my boys.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
The Curry family was going through a divorce. We had
no clue because they were showing up to the games
together the whole time.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
You remember, you know what I'm talking about, the father,
But the father and the mama, they'd be right there
with each other. Yeah, we had no clue that they
was separating and none of this type of stuff because
it just it's just not a good look. And they,
to my knowledge, you know, they together. And so man,
you mean tell me, mama, don't want to come to
none of the big games. I want to be at
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none of them. So yeah, but if i'm his father,
not that father, but if i'm his father, yeah, I
don't think it even get that far, because I don't
think you can check your.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
Kid when you like your kid.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Explain that.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
So he's kind of aesthetically I don't know him, but
he's kind of like a homie. It looked like he's
the homie with his son. Yeah, I'm gonna remain father.
So because I'm on, I always want to be able
to jackie up and you know, and say what I
want to say and have the same respect.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
And you're gonna respect me.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
But when I've been kicking the witch and hanging out
with your parting which and all is here, I don't
think it.
Speaker 5 (38:15):
I don't think I can say nothing to you and
me and you know, parents period, we have to be
okay with that. We have to be okay with being
a parent. Just we have to be okay with being
a parent, being the role that we're good for.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
And that's it. It's like I got being a parent.
I told my son this, and I told my daughter
the same thing. I like my role. I'm your daddy.
You ain't getting another one. I brought you here. Can't
nobody compete with me? I'm in a unique position, right,
(38:55):
can't nobody touch this? Nobody? Yeah, I'm daddy, you know
what I'm saying. So so you can go get a
bunch of friends and you can go find a friend today.
You can't go find another daddy today, No, you can't.
You know you can't do that. So I'm in a
unique position, and I like being in unique positions. So
I have a very unique position and a special set
(39:18):
of skills. As the dude said, I had a special
set of skills. Baby. Yeah, So I would rather if
I got a choice to be your friend or your father,
I'd rather be your father father right now. If if
we can be friends in addition to me being your father, Hey,
I take that. That's a beautiful thing. And actually that
(39:43):
actually had that actually, you know, begin to happen later on, Yes,
the kids got a little older. But initially I was like,
I'm daddy, and this is how it's gonna go. And look,
I'm the father, you're the son. If I start acting
like the son, it ain't gonna work. It ain't gonna wait,
you start acting like the father, it ain't gonna work.
(40:06):
And so I'm clear with my position with my kid. Yeah,
first and foremost daddy, and then anything after that. That's
what he called it, line yacht. That's that's extra. Yeah,
that's cool, that's icing on the cake. Yeah, but man,
these parents got to get back to being okay with
(40:26):
being a parent first.
Speaker 4 (40:28):
Because all the great stuff I've heard about Jo's father,
how he built the stuff in the backyard to make
him the great player he has become today. Man, his
daddy is being superb, you know what I'm saying. So
this ain't no shade on his daddy. His dad has
been excellent, but now he's at a level now to
(40:48):
where he still need his daddy, but not in a
different type of way.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
You know, I know what I'm saying. He needs that
in a different type of way. And man, I mean,
I just don't know.
Speaker 4 (40:59):
I just know just for me, and again I'm able
to look at it from a distance, but I just know, Na,
I'm not going to be you know, course I with
the shades.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
This is my son.
Speaker 4 (41:12):
This is my son's world. He's making the money now.
Yes I helped them get here and all that pushed
them whatever, but this is his world. I'm finna go
up here in this suite and I'm looking because I'm
trying to say, who trying to ruin my son's world?
Speaker 2 (41:28):
Well, whatever they got going on, I hate to see it, bro,
But it's too late because he's been conditioned. He's twenty three,
twenty four years old now, and whatever their relationship has
been is what it's going to be. You think that
in terms of the respect I got. You think about like,
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think about your own family. You know, like whatever level
of respect that you had as a teenager, you probably
have the same respect right now. Yeah, if you didn't
respect them, then you probably don't respect them. Yeah, you know,
if you respected them, then you probably respect them now.
If if you had an uncle or aunt who you
know that was close to you in age, or they
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you know, behaved like you, or they went to the
same places and y'all hung out and y'all had conversations
that were on the same age group level, y'all probably
have that same exact type of chemistry today. You know,
you probably having the same kind of conversation. You probably
see look at that person the same way as you know,
(42:31):
as opposed to that aunt or that uncle that you've
always revered as your elder. Oh man, I got to
be on my best bed when I come around him,
for sure. For sure that you know that's unpicked. You
know what I'm saying, that's Uncle Bubble.
Speaker 4 (42:44):
You know that's funny you say that me and I
lay wash. We travel together from timesime, I rode with him,
do some clubs when I'm not buked. And we were
in Arlington and his aunt units came to the show.
I had heard him, but man, when she came to
this show, this is why did no cussing this show.
(43:06):
He did the whole show, no cussing.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
All this here.
Speaker 4 (43:10):
Yeah, my boy, that boy said, I said, Man, you
ain't cuse names. Man, My unis over there.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
I said, oh, you know the call now, well it's
time to put you in check. Yeah, I know the
call that's scared is on Union.
Speaker 4 (43:25):
She and she got a presence of bottle too where
she walked in like, yeah, let me see what this
foolishness is about up in there.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:33):
Yeah, So now you're right when you say that you
boys the podcasts right back after the week.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
I want to go back, man, to give you your
flywers bro about you know, for being a trendsetter in
in that space, in that gospel space.
Speaker 3 (43:56):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Do you consider yourself a gospel commit a Christian comedian? What? Neither? Neither?
Speaker 4 (44:02):
I'm just a comedian spirituals neither. I'm just a comedian.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
Neither. I'm just a comedian trying to get a title. Man,
I don't want it, That's what I'm saying, because here's
the thing, I'm a comedian that happens to be a Christian.
Speaker 4 (44:16):
Okay, I still do the clubs. I do everything, come
with a chick. Do you know I performed at the
strip clubs before. People always asking, man, I don't matter
the divorced parties?
Speaker 3 (44:27):
Did I was like parties?
Speaker 4 (44:28):
Okay, I mean all type of things, you know, because
just whatever. So I'm a comedian that happens to be
a Christian. Reason why I say that. People like to
give you a title. But it's a bunch of Christians
out here with it that don't put the title on
their occupation, like it ain't.
Speaker 3 (44:43):
No Christian control company.
Speaker 4 (44:46):
Yes, you know they might be Christian, but damn yeah,
they don't throw it on their title. And then of
course the Bible saying, you know, you'll know the tree
by the fruit. So I ain't gotta keep putting in
your face I'm Christian. I mean you'll see it in
my show or you'll hear it in my talk, and
you know whatever.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
You know.
Speaker 4 (45:05):
So I don't really like, you know the title, but
people will give it to you because sometime they need
it for them to cut that check. So some churches
might be now what what type of comedian. Is it
a Cristian comedy? And we're like yeah, okay. And if
they say okay, well yeah I'm a Christian. If you
got to cut the check, that way, go ahead. But
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I'm just a comedian.
Speaker 3 (45:27):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
But in that space, bro, you have ruled. I mean,
I don't remember a comedian in that space before you.
I just don't. And I'm sure that's probably somebody been
out there or whatever, but I just don't remember.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
Yeah, I'll give you something, miss uh you know Jonathaan Slocum,
I don't. Yeah, you do you remember Steve Harvey's shitcome?
Speaker 2 (45:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (45:53):
And he was one of his band members. His name
was Clyde. He was always like forgetful, but anyway, he
was one. Because these are the ones that I saw
before I came Slocum brodge guy named Roderick Rice. He
was really big, very talented too. And then this lady,
her name Trina Jeffries, but she go by sister Cantalog.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
She does a character on stage.
Speaker 4 (46:12):
And those were the three people that I saw in
this lane when I started, because I had to go
do a little research kind of see you know what
it is. And then when I saw them, I probably
bought their VHS's, watched them, and then I realized, oh yeah,
I can do this here, and then I put my
with my own way though.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
But and in fairness to them, you know, it ain't
like i'd be going to church like I would like
actually see them.
Speaker 3 (46:44):
But they really wasn't seen. That's another thing. That's what
I mean.
Speaker 4 (46:46):
Like the lane I mean, and maybe it's it's changing
now with the social media, but it's not a lane
of where you're gonna get a lot of flowers and
praise and at a rayation, but it is a lane
where you will live nice.
Speaker 3 (47:05):
You know se what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
Because church is always got fun.
Speaker 4 (47:07):
I always got celebrated, celebrate passing everything.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
Yeah, New Fun Day. Yeah, it's always something Wednesday, right,
Bible Study appreciation Day.
Speaker 3 (47:22):
So it's a lot of stuff. You just you just
gotta be tapped in.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
First best friend. They got it, but they got they
got it. Clebrating later day. Man, exactly what side piece day? What? Man?
What if they had that's the side piece day?
Speaker 3 (47:42):
That'll be tough. I don't want to perform at it either.
Speaker 4 (47:45):
It's gonna be it's gonna be a little it's gonna
be some violence at that particular, but yeah, I don't
want to.
Speaker 3 (47:50):
Perform at it. But yeah, man, so yeah you So
if you're looking for.
Speaker 4 (47:54):
A lot of oo's and ours and maybe being on
TV and all that, you know, highly unlikely.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
Well you get to oods and ours may not television.
Speaker 4 (48:05):
Yes, not television right right, but will you live nice
and and you know, maybe under the radar with it?
Speaker 3 (48:13):
And you know, I mean, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
did you you good?
Speaker 2 (48:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (48:17):
I mean, and I'm grown, so why at some point?
I of course, I'm like everybody else. You want the
movies and the city comes and all that. Then after
a while, you know, you just be like, man, shoot,
God been real kind to me. So I'm just gonna
enjoy and ride it out, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (48:34):
Do you still put yourself out there for the movies
and the sitcoms? Not? Really?
Speaker 3 (48:38):
I don't. I can't lie, I don't.
Speaker 2 (48:41):
I just you don't do any auditions, any.
Speaker 4 (48:44):
Auditions for the last audition I probably did was for
this HBO or the Showtime series, and I did it
on my phone. They wanted you to do the thing
on your phone. I said, I'm not into this.
Speaker 3 (49:00):
I'm not into any of the other new thing.
Speaker 4 (49:03):
No knock on it, because if had it came out
when I was in college, high school, or I be
on it. I'm just grown now. I mean I'm and
what I mean by grown, I just I'm stuck in
my ways, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (49:16):
Uh, And I know I am. So this ain't no again.
I ain't knocking a new way. I just I like
my ways.
Speaker 2 (49:24):
How many boys do you have?
Speaker 3 (49:25):
One? One boy, one girl?
Speaker 2 (49:27):
You're a boy and a girl. Now do you sometimes
have to like give your kids a second type look
or something when you're letting them know you're being serious
since dad is a comedian, Like do they ever get
do the wires ever get crossed?
Speaker 3 (49:44):
Sometimes?
Speaker 4 (49:44):
My son, my son fifteen, he about to be six, well,
he'll be sixteen in November.
Speaker 3 (49:49):
He pretty much you know, he a good little kid.
He a cool little kid.
Speaker 4 (49:56):
So I can't really say I even have really problems
with every now and then I got to put the
foot down. But he understand that his mama's probably she
worse like I'm.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
She's she's the disciplinarian.
Speaker 4 (50:10):
Yeah, like she the discipliner. Yeah, but I'm I talked
to the kids more I mean, I'm a hey man,
let me let you bro. You know that's what I'm doing.
She just if she find out he watched him pawn,
she I'm going to kill him. And I said, hey, Slo.
Speaker 3 (50:25):
Now, back in my day, we didn't have pawing her,
but we had playboy, we had penhouse, we had hustler.
Speaker 2 (50:32):
You know.
Speaker 3 (50:32):
It was VHS tapes. Somebody daddy had it.
Speaker 4 (50:36):
I said, yeah, so she'd be like, so you was
looking at this stuff. Yeah, man, I'm a boy. That's
that's what boys do. You know.
Speaker 3 (50:42):
Yeah, I said, come let me go high land him.
Speaker 4 (50:44):
And so I go up there and joke with it.
But I also bring my point home, you know, and
all that type of stuff.
Speaker 2 (50:52):
And so.
Speaker 3 (50:53):
But the little girl, she only five, but she the
you know, I ain't gonna even lie. She got me.
Speaker 2 (51:00):
I know she do yees?
Speaker 3 (51:01):
She five, She she got me. Anything they tell at
that house, she come to me, daddy, can I.
Speaker 2 (51:09):
Man go on?
Speaker 3 (51:10):
And they ain't get it. Man, I ain't tripping.
Speaker 2 (51:12):
Knowing what you know about boys, does it scare you
sometimes about raising her and what she might have to
experience with boys.
Speaker 4 (51:25):
It don't scare me. But so I always told my wife.
You know, this girl is gonna be like a project
for me. I'm gonna try to do something that I
haven't seen people do yet, that I haven't seen it.
I think people don't do it. I ain't seen it.
So when my daughter gets thirteen, I'm gonna put a
ring on her finger and put a ring on the finger.
Speaker 2 (51:46):
And what is the significance of putting a ring on
her finger?
Speaker 3 (51:49):
I'm put the ring on.
Speaker 4 (51:49):
I'm gonna say, listen, this ring and I'm putting on
your finger is me letting you know whatever you need,
whatever you won't da da da dada.
Speaker 3 (52:00):
Your daddy got it. You ain't got to seek it
from nobody else.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
I got it.
Speaker 4 (52:07):
And then when you find you a man who's gonna
do everything with your daddy, do you give me my
ring back and.
Speaker 3 (52:15):
You take his ring.
Speaker 4 (52:16):
Now, that's what I'm gonna tell her that Now other
things growing up, I ain't gonna even chest I ain't
gonna do a whole lot of chest time. So let's
say if she wears something I think is trampish, I'm
gonna go this what you wan? Yeah, Back in my day,
we run through girls like you. I'm gonna go I'm
(52:39):
just I want to try this.
Speaker 2 (52:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (52:41):
We run through, Yeah, run through.
Speaker 2 (52:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (52:44):
We look at the girl like this and be like, yeah,
I'm finna, I'm gonna get that and like that dying Yeah,
blah blah blah, I'm gonnall.
Speaker 3 (52:49):
We but come on, let's go.
Speaker 2 (52:50):
This is what you wanna, Let's go.
Speaker 3 (52:51):
You know, instead of take that off, I'm not gonna
do that.
Speaker 2 (52:55):
I'm gonna.
Speaker 4 (52:56):
I want to see, hopefully I have a relationship with
it away. You know, she'd be like, dam man, my
dad don't like what I got on. And even if
she's still wed, it's just me and my dad.
Speaker 3 (53:08):
I don't like my dad don't really like this.
Speaker 4 (53:10):
So I ain't gonna probably wed no more. I mean,
you know, this ain't gonna be my thing. But I
ain't gonna never tell her don't wed or just whatever. Again,
it's a project. We'll see we older parents. We ain't like,
I'm not twenty and thirty no more. I'm fifty. So
I ain't finna.
Speaker 3 (53:26):
I can't.
Speaker 4 (53:26):
I don't even have the energy to do what a
thirty year old parent or do to somebody young like
this hip. So now I'm gonna try my way hopefully
my wife will gonna let me do it.
Speaker 2 (53:36):
But you know what's a good strategy is the same
strategy your dad used and your mom used on you.
Speaker 3 (53:46):
Okay, leader, leader, for sure, you're a leader, really I
do to my son for sure.
Speaker 2 (53:51):
Yeah. Yeah, because that's the same strategy I use with
my kids.
Speaker 3 (53:55):
Okay, yeah, you know, leader, and you're.
Speaker 2 (53:58):
You're absolutely right about that. Now, overreacting things, yeah, because
that's what a lot of fathers end up doing. Sure,
and then the daughty ends up rebelling. They say the
wrong things. Stuff come out man, and then sometimes when
it does come out wrong, they don't they're too proud
to go and apologize, you know, ye not wrong. Yeah,
(54:21):
and yeah, that's actually a secret weapon for for for
for parents, in my opinion, the uh, the ability to
apologize to their children when they're wrong, because we don't
have all answers.
Speaker 3 (54:34):
We don't.
Speaker 2 (54:35):
Yeah, but a lot of times parents, you know, we
operate under the system of do as I say, not
as I do. I was I was under that system.
Yeah yeah, but we really do have to leave by example.
And if we want our kids to be good communicators
in the world, then we have to be a good
(54:56):
communicator for sure. Yeah, so yeah, buts key, Yeah, but
I'm yeah, I mean you're a comedian, so you know, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (55:04):
It's key, but you but you know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (55:08):
But I'm proud of you for saying that though, man,
because a lot of fathers they're just not uh they're
not like in tune like that, you know, they're not
thinking like that that foreign and thing. Do you how
would you handle your son? How are you handling your
(55:30):
son as far as like how he communicate with girls?
Speaker 4 (55:35):
Yeah, so I remember crazy my wife, you know, she
go through my son's phone. You know, she got everything
to her phone and everything.
Speaker 3 (55:44):
So my son's like, man, why should be going through
my phone?
Speaker 4 (55:46):
I was like, yeah, she gotta trust you first. Like
I've had a few had a few bottles with that too,
but I don't have that problem no more. But anyway,
but I told you, I said, I told him. I said, yeah,
I'm gonna check your phone and stuff because you young
and dumb and yeah this I talked, Yeah, you're young
(56:07):
and dumb, and so she gonna be checking it. So anyway,
she got on the phone one time, saw he cussing.
So she was like, and I used to tell here.
Speaker 3 (56:17):
You know your son cuts, I'm my son, all right, man.
Speaker 4 (56:22):
So anyway, she finally custs. So my wife was like, yeah,
I'm gonna kill him. I said, now wait till I
get home. I was out of town. Wait till I
get home.
Speaker 3 (56:30):
So we get home and with my son, he know, Willie,
if you tell me the truth, I can help you.
Speaker 4 (56:39):
But if you're lied to me, I can't do nothing
for you, mane. And I don't want to do nothing
for you, cause you don't never actually have to lie
to meat, no matter how bad it is. You never
got a lot of meat because I'm your like you
were saying, Earth, I'm your daddy.
Speaker 3 (56:51):
I'm here. I'm here to cover you, to help you.
This what I'm here par So, I don't care how
bad it is. You never got like me. So my
son he kind of got that down pretty good. So
we get on from school and that boy come in there.
What's up dad? I was out of town.
Speaker 4 (57:06):
He out heyp and me and his mama sitting there,
and then he was like, what up, mama. You know
he got he got personality too, like, what's up, mama?
Speaker 2 (57:13):
You good? All that?
Speaker 3 (57:15):
I see it up?
Speaker 4 (57:16):
Say well, let me ask you a question. He's like,
what's up, Dad? I said, do you cuss? The boy
looked at his mama. The boy looked back at me
and was like.
Speaker 2 (57:27):
Sometimes, yeah.
Speaker 3 (57:29):
Why does that boy say yeah, mom about to get him?
Speaker 4 (57:31):
I said, because you know, you never want to ask
you to me, ask your kid for the truth, and
then they give the truth. And then the first thing
you want to do is go outside their head because
now you you kind of you know, mess up them
telling the truth.
Speaker 2 (57:47):
You know, the next time they don't trust you, don't
trust you.
Speaker 3 (57:49):
Not Yeah, So I said, told the mama chillop. So
I said, bro, I said, why are you cuz?
Speaker 4 (57:55):
He said, Dad, I don't even know trying to be Oh,
I guess I don't even have to cuss the mother
dude have to.
Speaker 3 (58:02):
I ain't even gotta do it. It was a great
answer for me.
Speaker 4 (58:05):
I was like, that's a pretty good answer. But anyway,
but I said, but listen, my problem is it's not
about your cussing. It's me you shouldn't cuss. But that
ain't my problem. My problem is how you was talking
to this girl on this text message. Because he was
talking to a girl, you know, he said a few things.
(58:27):
I said, so what's up with that?
Speaker 3 (58:28):
He was like, man, Dad, this girl she'd be blah
blah blah blah. She always I said, hey, man, typically
you'll age a girl typically likes you if she's like this.
Speaker 2 (58:37):
He huh.
Speaker 4 (58:38):
I was like, yeah, girls, this bothering you and picking
on you or whatever that you're saying right now, typically
they like you at this age.
Speaker 3 (58:46):
I say, so, man, what you just need to do? Dog?
Come on, you gotta tell her, hey, hey, what's up?
Do you like me or something?
Speaker 4 (58:53):
Is that why you always don't say, don't lose your
personality that you have when it's time now talk to
this girl. Why are you letting her get you out
of you? And you're now you cussing and all this here?
Keep your saying from that. Do you see me cussing?
Speaker 3 (59:06):
Not your mama? And you know all is it? I
still use my same with joke game everything when I'm
talking to your mama. And so he was like, you know,
I get it.
Speaker 4 (59:13):
So I just try to, you know, have him, you know,
just showing him that there's other ways. You ain't got
to because you mad no girl, and just because everybody
else calling them bees and and that you ain't got
the falling suit, you know with.
Speaker 2 (59:28):
That, you know, yeah, that's good advice.
Speaker 3 (59:31):
Yea.
Speaker 2 (59:32):
The same time that the first time I witnessed my
son cussing. Yeah, I read his what do they call
that instant like one of those messages on MSN.
Speaker 3 (59:44):
Okay yeah yeah, competer, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (59:47):
That boy was cussing.
Speaker 3 (59:47):
Yes, they know cuss good.
Speaker 2 (59:50):
I had never heard him cuss before. I never known
him to cuss, never heard anything. R He's like, he's
like twelve thirty years.
Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
It is.
Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
Because well.
Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
I was like, damn, but I had to catch myself.
I said, he learned from the best man. Well he
learned from the best, and uh, I don't even think
he know that. I well, he'll know now. But but
I never even told about that. I knew, but I
(01:00:29):
think I may have. I had these inadvertent conversations with him,
you know when I know something or whatever, and just
so I probably came up to him and said, hey, uh,
you know, when you cuss, you know, I probably seen
somebody else cuss or something like that hurts. You know,
(01:00:51):
people cussed when they don't have anything, say, we don't
have any other words, you know, I probably see like that. Yeah,
so I hit him like that a lot of times.
But any man, Yeah, I want to ask you this, man,
before you get out of here. You've done a lot
of things in your career. You've had a lot of success,
(01:01:13):
You've received a lot of praise, you know, O side
of family. Is there anything else that you want out
of your career?
Speaker 3 (01:01:24):
That's a good question.
Speaker 4 (01:01:26):
And the crazy part when people ask me that question,
I don't even know, Willie. Man, all I ever wanted
to do in.
Speaker 3 (01:01:33):
Life was be successful and whatever that looked like. That
don't mean comedy. I just want to be able.
Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
Man.
Speaker 4 (01:01:42):
I wanted good credit, you know. You know, I was
very simple. I wanted good credit, you know what I'm saying.
Of course, become a family. I want to be able
to go on family vacation at least once a year,
you know, me and my boys. We can go to
catch some games, you know, stuff like that. I'm real
simple cat. And so now that I'm able to do
(01:02:02):
these things, it's almost like I got a dream again,
Like because this is this has been this has been done,
this has been sustained or you know, and now.
Speaker 3 (01:02:16):
I don't even know, man, I just I just get up.
I just go to work. You know, I want to
eat stuff.
Speaker 4 (01:02:21):
I want to eat from every lip of the menu,
you know, because I just remember when I was in college,
I take a girl like I just appetized it.
Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
I couldn't.
Speaker 4 (01:02:30):
I won't no sense even flipping the menu more. You
just flip it one time, okay, suceter, We right here.
You don't, don't, don't you down flip flip another not
a naw another page?
Speaker 3 (01:02:41):
We right here.
Speaker 4 (01:02:42):
That's wings, that's tender us. You know what I'm saying.
That's calamari.
Speaker 3 (01:02:47):
Were right here. And so I just want it. I
just wanted that.
Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
Man.
Speaker 3 (01:02:50):
I want to go out with my balls and say
I got it. Yeah, I mean, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (01:02:54):
And so I don't know, man, I'm trying to find
out you know what's next. I mean, I'm doing the
comedy and comedy going is going well still and but yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:03:08):
Man, I gotta I gotta dream again.
Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:03:11):
That's that's the only only answer I could really give
without making up something lying to you.
Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
I mean, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
Well, you got it, man, and thank god you gave
it to us.
Speaker 3 (01:03:20):
Bro appreciate it. Hold on, I want to tell you this.
Do you remember one time you called me you.
Speaker 4 (01:03:26):
Was about to do a comedy show or something. This
was this was before the pandemic. This was probably two
thousand and sixteen or something. I don't know this, this
a while ago, but watch this. At that time, I
know of you, I don't know you. And you called
just out the blue, Yeah, I'm looking for Marcus.
Speaker 3 (01:03:47):
Why. I said, yeah, it's me. You was like, yeah,
this is Willie D. And I said v Willie D.
And you was like yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:03:58):
I said I make big money. I drive big calls
with it. And you was like yeah, and so your reputation.
He was like, yeah, willing don't play you know what.
I was like, man, I thought that was funny. But
you only you want to hear.
Speaker 3 (01:04:10):
Me with Yeah. I was like, oh, well yeah this Marcus.
Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
I got on.
Speaker 3 (01:04:18):
Yeah, but you were trying to put together something.
Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
I said, oh, that was so funny to me. Yeah,
I remember that because you you you were you were
already booked for something.
Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
I was, yeah, I had something going on, right, Yeah, boy?
Speaker 4 (01:04:30):
But I said I make big money. I try big
cars with the DA you're talking about. Yeah, I said, whoa.
I thought that was gonna get a little bit more,
get more laughter than that. Well, look man, better lady
than that. I appreciating the laughter now, I appreciate it.
And when I told my wife I was coming to
your paulcast, she talking about.
Speaker 3 (01:04:50):
The clean up man.
Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
I said, yeah, yeah, Ladies.
Speaker 3 (01:04:57):
And gentlemen, appreciate you. Thanks for having man.
Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
Thank you talk.
Speaker 1 (01:05:04):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Yeah, now, deep throating.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
This is for the streets, the real the relroading, the distenfranchise,
the truth, escapegoating, and they ain't know where we speak
the truth, so they ain't quoted because we wrote it.
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Your head, Bobby.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
It ain't no stopping and once to be drop sad
by then the system is so corrupt they threw.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
The rock out their heads and then blame it on us.
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In the studio, Marcus Wiley.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
What a do aka Bishop sec he did with it?
He got killed? You killed him, Mama, we got I can't.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Kill vision secular man on the road man.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
I should have, but I really wasn't into social media
at the time because back then the radio stations wouldn't
allow their personalities to use social media because they looked
at it like they didn't want you getting.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Bigger than them, not things reversed.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
They need you to do it to promote they stuff, right,
But this when it was kind of fresh, it was
kind of new, so we would get banned and fine
for social media. So I just kind of separated myself
from social media from jump Street. And I had I
been thinking, I would have took you know, bisch of
Secular and made them something that I probably could have
did on social media.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
I think you should still just resonate Bishop Secular, just
because it's such a dope idea, it's such a great character.
Somebody's gonna do it, for sure, it may as well
be you, because I think you would be really pissed
if somebody came up with that and you put that
out there, and you because I know some other people
(02:00):
have seen your routine. Sure and they've seen that like, yeah,
that's dope, that's dope, and.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
A lot of people ask a lot of people, you know,
say the same thing you just said. But I think
my problem with it was that, you know, once upon
a time, Bishop Seculer was bigger than Marcus D. Willy,
and I would go show up and do shows as
Marcus d. Whler, as me, and people be like I was,
(02:25):
like I am, And so I was really ready to
kill him because he was kind of overshadowing me, you
know a little bit. And my bills don't come in
Bischom Seculer, they come in Marcus d Whet and so
you know that's why I cut the blues.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Well what about bringing him back in an animated form?
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Yeah, that'll be dope. Yeah, if I had the right people.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
You know, come on, man, you connected, say you be
working with five William Morris, got got a got a
deal over?
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Man, are you still with a snapchat? You still work
with this? No?
Speaker 3 (02:58):
No, all that's old.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
But but yeah, but but still, man, you move around.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
I do a little something. But you know, a lot
of that stuff is fluff. I mean, you know, you've
been in the business a long time. People associate you
with stuff, but you ain't in the way it suggests
you in if I may say it that way, you
know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Right? Yeah, so you were you wasn't in to make
the decisions. Yeah, yeah, power sign.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Yeah. You know it just looked good, but it wasn't.
It wasn't what it was.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Well, you know, man, you you still gotta use well
you still have the you still have the right to
lay claim, but association.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Sure, no doubt. I got connect.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
I'm connected a little bit and you know, yeah, yeah,
you and.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Your London y'all still connect.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
We just left lunch. Yeah, just was at lunch eating.
She told me tell you what's up too, because I
said I had to come kick it with you and
Hello London, no doubt, no doubt. Yeah, but we still
you know.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
This man, that's.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Oh yeah, she made it else, you know, on that
show now Kingdom Business and they just got picked up
for their second season and just got Green Lid for
their third season. It's a series that come on BT
Plus and then it falls on BT and so yeah,
she working on that. But you know, she got some
new music all that's coming out. So we was talking
(04:21):
about the tour and you know, all this whole different stuff.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
How long How long did did y'all do that morning show?
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Ten years? Your London's Morning Show?
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Ten years?
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Ruh, Yeah for ten years?
Speaker 2 (04:32):
What happened?
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Yr London was too big for him, bro, And at
the end of the day they said, of course they
didn't want to pay. But you know, women get a
bad rap. So your London is a boss, right.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
And can can cannot not be a boss on that level.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Right, So she a boss and the stuff that they
white may wanted her to do, and she would turn
it down. I'm not doing that, you know, if it
didn't make money. You know, it wasn't made sense to
her type of thing. She wasn't about to be using
pimp and all that type of stuff. And they didn't
like that. You know most times, you know, they want
to control it, they want to control the person and
all that, and so, uh, it just ran its course.
(05:16):
So when it got to the ten years, the contract
was up, and uh, and we kind of knew they
weren't gonna renew it, you know, because they didn't want
to kind of deal with.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
A boss.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yeah, because because that's that's that's that kind of hurts business. Yeah,
when you have one person who is a stand up person,
they stand on something, you can't push them around, you
can't just pimp them, and that ain't good for the
pimping business, you know, like, yo, man, you're gonna miss
(05:49):
around to get some of these other people. I did exactly,
So we rather just they'll they'll call it split chemically.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Yeah, yeah, you know, yeah, basically that's how I went
and so you know, ten years was up.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
It was good though.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
You know, open up a lot of doors, create a
lot of opportunities. Yeah, but you know when it runs
courses over and so we was cool with it. Yeah, yeah,
it was cool with it.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Man.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
You are the son of a pastor, grandson and great
grandson of pastors.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Wow. Yeah. Did everybody expect you to become a pastor?
Speaker 3 (06:24):
For sure?
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yeah? That was And when you told them that you
wanted to be a comedian, did you tell them you
wanted to be a comedian or that he just looked
up one day and saw you telling jokes?
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Yeah, they kind of looked up because I didn't even
know I wanted to be a comedian. But what happened was,
you know my father, you know, he passed in on
nine and you know he would have loved for me
to take over his church. It was right over there
in the Overbrook addition of south Park, across macawar railroad
tracks off Barefoot and yeah, his probably dying wish was
(06:53):
for me to take over that church, but uh, God
blocked it. That what I like to say, I just
you know, man, I ain't never really want to be
no pastor or you know, nothing like that. I didn't
want to go into quote unquote the family business. But
the jokes they started coming around the same time. I
was working at this church and doing what I was
(07:15):
a director of events. So what I would do when
the marriage ministry wanted to have an event for the marriages,
they would come to me and I would put it together.
Same for the singles, same for the revival the pastor
gonna have I put the revival. I was the first
cat with this march gladness where we had the pastor's
come in and we announced him like it's a basketball game.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
He's from Indianapolis, he preaches at such such church.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
He come down the iron and they would have on
they you know, they cities unit and you know, just
made church a little bit more fun and all that
type of stuff.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
So I was just direct, the creative director of all
that type of stuff. Whatever the church wanted to do,
they would bring it to me.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
So I was hosting an event that I put together,
a Christmas gala, and man a lady there who owned
the coffee shop, she thought I was a comedian, had
called the church and was like, yo, I want to
speak to the comedian that hosted y'all Christmas Day and
they was like, no comedian.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
She was like, you're the host. They was like, oh,
you're talking about Marcus. He ain't no comedian. She was like,
but he was funny. Can I get in touch with him?
Speaker 4 (08:19):
They gave him my number because actually I had put
in my two weeks notice at this church. I was
getting ready to leave. I was leaving and I just
stayed on to do my lastly event that I had
been working on. And so she reached out to me
and was like, yo, I got on the coffee shop
in pa Land, and I would love for you to come,
you know, do our one year anniversary. And I was like,
(08:39):
I ain't a comedian and she was like, but you
was funny. I was like, yeah, I'm funny to the
people that know me, you know at the church. And
she was like, well, I had five hundred dollars. Oh
when because at that time I was probably only making
will it twelve hundred dollars a month at the church.
Now I she's trying to give me five hundred dollars Friday,
(09:01):
I said, yeah, I ain't never been good at math,
but I've been fantastic at money. So I said, yeah,
this I here, and so that's how I started right there.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Wow, that is that is an incredible story. But what's
the time you hear about comedians they say, well, you
know I first started, man, you know, I just I
just trying to figure out what I wanted to do it.
Then you know, one day I just went up and
jumped on stage on amateur night and you know I
had five minutes and yeah, then I got booed and
(09:35):
all this kind of stuff. Yeah, man, so you were
you were kind of like, so you're in invertinly Inverton comedian.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Yeah, yeah, watched this. Never done an open mic, I've
never done that.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
I started making five hundred dollars most comings, gonna tell
you they started getting paid with drinks, weeds, having sell ticket,
sex or twenty five dollars gas money. I started my
first comedy show five hundred dollars and so and that's
good money to some comedians today. You know what I'm
saying to get five hundred dollars. So it was definitely
(10:13):
I felt God sent, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
And so what happened.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
The reason why I'm clean because the church is, I mean,
the lady who owned the coffee shop.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
She wanted no cussing, no vulgarities. So I started clean.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
That attracted the churches that was coming in buying up
all the tickets because they was using it for getaways
for they particular ministries. By me being a church boy,
growing up in it, working at the church, I know
church Now, this is my lane, you know what I'm saying.
And so once I started seeing seeing how profitable it
was and I could see I could see being successful
(10:50):
in it, I stayed in it.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Now once you had the five hundred dollars first time,
the five hundred dollars is the bar? Did you think
after that, like, Okay, I'm finna make five hundred every
single time I go out, Yes or more yes, and
then and then you have to fall back. Yes.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
So folks on a college I got two fifty two
fifty two. Yeah, oh definitely, reality chick come in now.
The ain't coming in because especially folks that's not in
my lane. So when I started, and you know, the
comics here, I leave Terry Groves, Dave Kier, all these guys,
we all kind of start around the same time. They
a little bit before me, but pretty much the same time.
(11:30):
We around the same age. So when we I would
pull them in to do shows and I would give
them money on in my lane, in my world, and
they would pull me, but they money wasn't the same
as mine. I'm pulling them in. You know, I'm going, Yo,
here is and this is back at back in that day.
Here is five hundred dollars. Here, four hundred dollars.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
They pulling me. Here's one hundred dollars. Here's I'm losing.
Coming over here with y'all. I need to you stay
over in my world.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
God, God, Man way butter y'all people tying over here,
we can tie it off right over here.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Know what's going on in y'all lane?
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Yeah, So what explain to me? What is when the
church meets the club? What's that about?
Speaker 4 (12:20):
So that was so I've done well, I've done I
think sixteen projects. I've been doing comedy twenty years. I
think I got sixteen projects that I've done in twenty years.
And when the Church went the club, I think that
was maybe my fifth project, one of my favorites at
that because I felt like it's a thin line between
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the church and the club. So I'm a theme writer,
so everything I write about is it got a theme
to it. So it's a thin line between the church
and the club. You got people who hang out at
church like it's a club, you know, like my mom
and my grandmother and them, that State Club. Even though
it's church, it's stay club. They just everything they do
(13:02):
is at the church. So you got folk who hang
out at church like it's a club. And then you
got folk who go to the club religiously. Okay, these
people come every Friday, every Saturday.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
They in the club.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
You know, men try to holler at women in the
church and the club just the lingo was different, but
men gonna try to shoot, They shot regardless, you know.
So it's just so many similarities with them both. And
that's what that whole project was about. I was just
exposing all the similarities of the church and the club
(13:35):
in a funny way. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
So when you were doing that, were they any pastors
when you would go in certain churches that felt kind
of like funny about that, Like they look at you like, yo, ma'am,
we can't have you back, thank you?
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Yeah, I think you know, because at that time, comedy
was still a little taboo in church, you know, so
a lot of church, especially tradition churches. They really weren't
feeling it. But I think because they knew my dad
and grandfather and they trusted me. I wasn't coming in
there to piss on their congregation, you know what I mean.
(14:11):
I wasn't going in there to tear down anything that
they have built up. So I think proceed. Yeah, I
think I came in with a little trust, so they
received my jokes maybe a little better. Plus I know
the bid you know, I know I would throw all
that in my jokes, so they know, oh he no
Bible and stuff like that. And I think that that's
(14:31):
what helped me, And maybe not another comic who just
coming there with jokes but really don't have no foundation
in the church in them, you know type of thing.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Have you ever merged the church and the club and
went too far? Ah? And somebody took exception to it?
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Yeah, I mean not an offended people, you know, because
we live in that time now where.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
So the church folks are offending what I don't.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Man, I was at a church one time, will I'm
in the church, I'm in Dallas, and I was doing
this joke about being straight heterosexual, and I was talking
about how man, I just really found out how unpopular
out of style heterosexual men are. Right, I'm just going
with my little progressions with the joke, and I'm saying,
(15:23):
you know, we don't have any clothing line. You know,
because I was in H and M and Mason's they
had pride, where we don't have a mascot, you know anything.
You know, the gay community got the rainbow. We don't
have weekends and we don't have months, and you know,
(15:43):
just just I'm just saying we out of style. I'm
not talking about the gay community. I'm talking about the
heterosexual How we out of style?
Speaker 3 (15:53):
We don't have nothing.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
So any way, I'm going something that they ought to
be proud of. Come on, you know, we go around,
we're at the bottom.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Now we're at THEI So I'm doing my thing at
the church. Man, I get off that stage.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
People loving it. I mean because it's more more too
what now, But that's the basis of it. I got
off that stage. Man, this preacher coming to me, Hey man,
you need to go apologize. I said, apologize about what
you up there? Talking about gay people? I said, no, no,
they not listening. I'm talking about straight people. I'm not
talking about gay people. He said, well, I'm getting text messages.
(16:26):
You know you need to go apologize. I say, what,
big dog, I ain't gonna lie to you. I'm not
going up there and do no apologies because I ain't
did nothing wrong, you know what I'm saying, and so
you know, it is what it is. So he was like,
oh yo, cause he wasn't the past of the church,
but he was the pastor underneath you know whatever.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Church club is the same stuff.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Yeah, And so I said, yeah, I ain't going to
do no apology though, because I am you know, I
would never maliciously come in somebody church and try to
you know what I'm saying, Like I say, tag anything down.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
But it is is what it is.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
And I think he probably was was it was gay too,
though I think man way, I didn't do it. And
so you know, that was one time where you know,
they I ain't been making that church since. You know,
another joke I do about for by taking Henderson Honeybun
instead of the.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
I said a grape juice and the cracker. I upgraded
to Henderson and honey Bun. You know, I do all
this ere once your boy, they didn't not like that.
Oh they were, they were hot that I don't know.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
And that's what I'm saying. I try to What I
try to do is let you know it's regular. Real
people in the church stop without the front. That's why
folks be like our church faith. Just you could be regular.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
You know what I'm saying. It's okay if you drank,
you drank.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
I mean, you ain't going to hell because you drank
bro and all that, and so I just kind of come,
you know, from that approach. But some churches, you know,
they not ready to to receive that. You know, they
just hear the word Hennerson he talking about hens. You
know they you ain't connected the dots or nothing.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Every saint has a past and every center has a future.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Sir, Look at you?
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Are you yeah? I mean you know you're just saying, man,
I can I can put it off every now.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
I already know.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
I see you. I checked you out. That's how you
got to do your screen man, And may be scared.
They'll do anything you tell me to give her that money.
You remember that pastor used to come on late at
night from all that rolling.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
We's out.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
You had to man, I used to man, I made
the mistake of falling asleep one day and this with
the with the TV on and that food came on
and scared the hell out of me. I'm laying in
the bed all it's all peaceful in itself, and all
of a sudden, I used God, your mind was playing
(18:54):
tricks on.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
You had to get it off.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
So this dul was like, yeah, sister, what you're doing,
I'm gonna praay for you right now. Okay, I'm ia
pray for you right now. Uh what we're gonna do?
Uh God, I want I want you thirty five dollars
to get your handkerchief. Yeap, thirty five dollars to get
(19:17):
your prayer handkerchief. And what I'm doing for pray for
you right now. God help sister Williams get this house
and get a new job, and and and I also
fix a car.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
He thought that I went in't had nothing else to say.
He was getting money though, Yeah, he was getting money.
You know how I know because my grandmother. Man, listen,
you go to my grandmother house. Everything they sell on
those on those inspirational you know, things like that, my
grandmother got them ole. It's the holy water, the handkerchiefs.
(19:57):
What she got them the sand from jer It was
a lumber in a little box.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
She got them all.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
I'd be like Grandma said, she ain't missing up blessing.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
I said, granted you are.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
I'm going to if I got to go, I'm going
to heaven.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
She's going to TV Heaven. Make come on man. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
So I know he was getting it because if you
up there, you advertise it, you're getting it.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Yeah, you're getting it for sure, you getting good boys.
Reloaded podcast will be right back after squeak.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
How does one get how does one become holy? Horny? Okay?
Speaker 3 (20:44):
So how to live holy when you're hornet?
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (20:46):
So I looked up the word holy. This another project
Holy mean I mean horny. I'm sorry. Horny means expecting.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Sexual no seeking, I'm sorry, seeking sexual gratification. That's horny
seeking sexual gratification.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
So I looked at it.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
You know, play on words in church, how to live
holy though when you're haunted? So I you seeking blank gratification.
A lot of people in church, they come every Sunday,
they praying because they want stuff. They seeking stuff, whether
it's they horned for money, horning for relationship, horning for
a career, horning for whatever. And so my my thing
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on it was when you haunt it though you don't
hear straight, you know here that you don't you know
you don't hear straight.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
You know, I've been a.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Teenage boy, college boy. I already know you know, when
I want it, I'm just trying. I just want the
green lights. And so I was just saying, so, how
do you live holy when you're horn it? Basically the
whole point was you gotta kind of got to kind
of wait, you know, don't make a bad decision. A
lot of people in life, I feel have made some
(21:58):
terrible decisions because they were horny, meaning they wanted it
right then, you know. And even when I teach in class,
that's what I try to tell my students and stuff
like that. Avoid trying to get everything right now. You'll
get it when you get it, but stop trying to
do what it take or whatever you need to do
to get it right now. I had the same opportunities
(22:21):
sell sell you know, people think because you're in church,
like you you just don't you don't know nobody, you
know what I mean. I had opportunity to sell a
little wei, you know, make a little money, all the
little scams they was doing in college. I was right there,
could have did tomorrow, but you know, I was just like, naw,
you know, I'm gonna I'm gonna wait it that because
I feel like, you know, I'm gonna get it when
(22:42):
it's my time. And so the whole point of that
through jokes was just that's how you little holy when
you're haunted by waiting on him to open the door
for you, opposing you going out there making these moves
you know that might be penitential chances.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Now, did the church receive that?
Speaker 3 (23:01):
They did. Some of them hung up. Now, don't get wrong,
they get hung up on the words horn it. Oh lord.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
I mean some people they're gonna be turned off, just off,
rip off the title, you know. But those that was
coming to these shows, they received it, got it, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
But you couldn't just have a you couldn't just jump
in with that type of analogy in the middle of service.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
No no, no, no, no, no no no. These was
comedy show Friday night, Sunday nights at the church. Though, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Do church people pay better than the secular people?
Speaker 3 (23:39):
In my lane?
Speaker 2 (23:40):
I mean.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
For my where I'm at in my geltry, yes, yeah,
but I think overall no, But for where I am
in my career, yes, you.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Know, have they ever ridden your hot check? Ah?
Speaker 4 (23:54):
In twenty years? I have had two checks? I think
that didn't in twenty years? And they fixed them. I mean,
so I ain't gonna hold them. I ain't gonna hold them.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
They made it right. But yeah, two bounced checks in
twenty years.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Yeah. How often have they tried to get you to
perform as free as a service to the church? Oh no,
that's all that's part of your time?
Speaker 3 (24:20):
No, yeah, no not at all.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
Because see sometimes people are called my office and I
might answer, you know, I answer.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
I take calls too, you know.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
No, no man know how much I needed but me
and so I answer the phone and I give them
the fee, and they be like, oh, I thought you
did this for the Lord, And I have to tell
him now, I don't do this for the Lord. He
give me the ability to do it. I do this
for mortgage. I do this for card notes.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
They care. I don't do it for the law. The
Lord give me the ability to do it, but no,
I don't do it for him.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
It's sort of like an activist, man, because activists they
have to pay their bills too. I mean they got
they worked and they serviced the people. But you know,
they got children, they got mortgages, they got card notes,
they got to eat.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
I gotta eat.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
You know, what do you expect them to do? So
some people just trip me out. They just expect that
because you're in the service industry, you're supposed to just
do whatever you do for free, for free. But the
trip part about it is that many of them are
also in the service industry and they get paid. They
ain't got no problem getting their check every week, every week,
asking for it and raising hell about it. Yeah, yeah,
(25:33):
for y'all. Yeah, man, how was it growing up in
the household with your father a pastor? How was that?
And did you feel any pressure? Man?
Speaker 3 (25:42):
My dad was.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
I tipped my head out to this because you know,
I do these preacher preachers kids conferences across the country.
They had these preacher's kids covered. Not for the kids,
not for little kids, for people our age who still
messed up. They upraising the upbringing, you know, and you know,
I go there, we talk and form and they tell
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my man, my mom and dad were so strict on me.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
They never let me do nothing.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
So once I got out that house, I just went
you know where, And so we have all this and
I didn't know it was that serious until I started
doing these conferences. People still mad at they moms and
there and they farted fifty years old still And so
for my experience, answer to answer your question, man, my
dad was he was one hundred man.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
My dad told me.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
He said, man, listen, I did not want to be
no pastor. He was working for Specs Liquor, and he
said he was enjoined. Look him working for Specs and
making his money on the side, because I think he
was probably stealing some stealing. He was bootlegging some respects,
litter out of his truck when he leave work. So
he said he was living it up. But then he
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said he got the call, you know how black people
called it. Got the car kept his life kept being
you know, so boom. He joined his church and he
was associate minister at the church for a little while,
still working at Specs, and then uh he started preaching
across Houston and then one of the churches they was like, yo,
we like your style, swag, your word whatever, and we
(27:15):
want you to be the pastor. And so my dad
said he had to let the specs go, and then
he became the pastor you know, of that church. But
he was like, but he never never wanted to do it,
and so he would tell me, so, look, unfortunately, you
my son, and I can't get the other what he said,
(27:38):
you my son.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
So I can't get the.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
Other kids at the church to do stuff if my
son don't do it. So you got to be like
the leader. So I've been like a leader all my life.
Like he just told me, you got to lead, m
I mean, you got to be the leader.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
And so this is how we get paid. I mean,
this is the family business.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
So at church, man, I was always the you know,
when we had Sunday school and vacation Bible school and
all that type of stuff. I would always have to
be the one to get up when they say, hey,
what did y'all learn in this high school class? I
couldn't just sit there with it, like, man, what y'all learned?
I always had to be the one to get up,
hey with what we learned today about you know, to
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lead it off and then people follow suit. And so
I've always been like, you know, and like I say,
even though it was maybe not fair, he explained it
to me.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
It's so clear it was like you got to do this.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
You know.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
It wasn't done to me like that. It was explained
to me. And so I never really had a problem
with it. So you never felt pressure, never felt pressure.
I've always been a celebrity, and I mean that from
I was a celebrity in the church first, you know
what I'm saying that.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
You know what, man, I'm glad you mentioned that. Because
pastor's children, the children of the pastor US liberties, people like, oh,
that's the past.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Son, you can't do nothing.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
The reason why we the reason why they flipped. So
so like for instance, if I would come around somewhere
and boy smoking weedy, h he go, he go markus
or your daddy kill you. You know your daddy kid,
you smoke now because I was a leader and I
ain't really didn't even want it. I was like, yeah,
he probably would, but I don't want to smoke. But
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other preachers kids, they want to show them that they
are regular too. So now by passed the weed, y'all
still on we what a cocaine at because they they
want to show I'm not only am I regular, but
I'm even I'm way better or way worse than you,
(29:47):
you know. And so they always go to extra mile
to try to be normal, you know. And that was
what a lot of preachers kids suffer from. Now, preacher's
daughters loved them because they always trying to get back
to their parents. Always daughter love of prison's daughters.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Ain't that amazing how that works out? Man? Like you
got a father who's in the house with you, you
got your mother in the house with you, and they're,
you know, giving you these values, and they giving you
a good home and a lifestyle and all this stuff.
And all you got to do is just basically follow
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some rules like not act sletty yes for lack of
better word, but that's a word. And you decide, you
know what I want to be study like I don't.
I don't want to do all these things. I don't.
And I think what happens a lot of times is
that these pastors they try to make their daughters perfect.
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For sure.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Oh it's a lot of pressure.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
That's and that's a lot of it's a lot of
pressure for anyone to be perfect, anybody, because none of
us are perfect. Will never be personal. But I have
seen a few pastors, including my best friend, who did
it the right way. Okay, you got to give them
a certain amount of latitude as they go along and
as they age, you know, and they got to have
(31:16):
a little bit of freedom. You cannot just lock these
kids up, man and expect them to do everything right.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
If you hear them stories from them, Pridgers kids conferences,
how they can listen to secular music, couldn't go to
the movies, you know, see all this. I didn't have
no problem with these type of things.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
I couldn't even have friends.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Yeah, some of them. Your friends might come over there
all that.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
See.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
I never experienced that.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
So that's why I never felt any unwanted or on
you know, unviewed pressure on me because you know, I
still play ball at woolow Ridge, and you know, I
was still just a regular guy.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
They just told me the whole theme at my house,
if you're not the leader, you can't go naw, that's it.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
Because my mama she like, hey, if I get a
phone calling middal Lie, you at And they said, yeah,
one of your partners had something, monument and all that
type of stuff.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
I don't care nothing about your partner. I'm coming to you.
I'm coming to you, don't. That's just how I was.
So for me, everything was if you ain't the leader,
you can't go, but I could go. That's what I'm saying.
It's just that. But you be the leader when you go.
So that was the whole, my whole little thing.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
What was it like walking the house of willow Ridge
High School?
Speaker 4 (32:31):
Well, it's I'm sure you've heard Willy, it's it's it's
the first HBCU I've ever attended. Before I know anything
about historically black colleges and universities, willow Ridge was was that, man,
it was.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
It was the greatest high school. You know.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
I know they catch a lot of flack and they'
not what we used to be back then. But back
when I graduated, I came out ninety one. When I
got there, man, it was it was just a great
man class and character was what they taught to see,
all these black folk, black teachers, everybody just you know,
pulling love and support into your you know, your friends
(33:16):
and then your peers was all.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
You know. Good.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Of course you had fights regular school, but but it
was a real good.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
Family environment you ever had a fight in school. I've
never had a fight in life, really never.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
My son has never had a fight. But I'm proud
of that though, because because here's here's the thing. Man.
You know, like I've had enough fights several lifetimes and
several people. Right, but I think about today like, man like, man,
(33:52):
you have a fight today, you might not make it out.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
You might not make it out. Now, that's true.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
You might not make it. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Back then it was just fighting.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Yeah, it be a fighter.
Speaker 5 (33:59):
Men.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Yeah, you take take your lumps or whatever. Yeah, and
you brush it off. Yeah, you know, you're going about
your business. But you live, you walk away. You know.
Now these kids, man, they pulling out.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Guns man like it's a video game.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Yeah. It's like they don't get the concept that, man,
this is forever. Once that bullet lead that chamber, it's whatever. Yeah,
that's a permanent decisions for sure.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
Never had a fight, now, that don't mean I wasn't
supposed to. And plus I had guys who when I
would talk that talk you know, nah, then they'll come in,
Oh he don't fight.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
But but I do, right, Yeah, so you know what's up?
Speaker 2 (34:38):
And I just be like yeah right, yeah, but.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
I try not to start them either though, because I
know I'm not fighting and I don't want to put
my guys in the horns way. But you know, when
you play sports, sometimes guys you know they gonna just
you know, we're talking hooping and I could talk with
the best of them. Yeah, but now they want to fight,
and I'm well, I didn't I didn't know he was fighting.
I just thought we were just talking.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Now you know, now, were you're the guy that when
you win, you rub it in or you waited or
did they have to say something for.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
No, no, no, no, I was nice with it willly.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
So the thing about it is, I don't really talk
noise until the noise starts, until it comes. Now I'm
gonna again my mouth pieces been been on ten since
a kid. Yeah, so I'm not even so whatever you
talking about it, it's gonna be worse now. So and
you know, now I'm winning and talking and so now
(35:31):
they want to get aggressive if they want to push in,
you know, try to make you want to fight, and
I'm like, man, I even I'm not fighting, like I
already know, I ain't fighting, I'm just talking, right.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
But then when they get to the point I may
pull you. Yeah, what's up, dope? Now? Well, now to
he come the boys?
Speaker 2 (35:46):
You know?
Speaker 4 (35:47):
So it's because I wouldn't even talk if the boys
wasn't not there, not the balls not there.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
I'm super silent.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
That's what John Moran needs. He needs a couple of
boys hanging around and so that he don't have to
flash guns.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
I don't even I don't even feel afraid. I don't
even understand that. I'm still trying to understand that to
this day.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
If you were a job Morant's father, I.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
Wouldn't be sitting courtside without my wife. That's what if
I was Jamrant's father. So aesthetically it don't look good,
you know, just I would man parents are still together, yes,
And so what I'm trying to say is I ain't judging.
I'm just sharing. I'm telling my partners. Esthetically it don't
look good.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
It just don't.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
I'm not gonna live. I caresusly through my son. I'm
gonna be proud of my son. I'ma sit in there,
I'm gonna be up in the stands. I'm gonna be
up in the sweet because that's really what I want
to be eating. Have mid little cocktail.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Those sweets are nice.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
When the food good. You already.
Speaker 4 (36:47):
I'm chilling, and just that I'm not gonna be courtside
acting like I know everybody kicking ahead, Kiki kning without
my wife sometimes and then and that's what I shared
with my boys.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
The Curry family was going through a divorce. We had
no clue because they were showing up to the games
together the whole time.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
You remember, you know what I'm talking about, the father,
But the father and the mama, they'd be right there
with each other. Yeah, we had no clue that they
was separating and none of this type of stuff because
it just it's just not a good look. And they,
to my knowledge, you know, they together. And so man,
you mean tell me, mama, don't want to come to
none of the big games. I want to be at
(37:32):
none of them. So yeah, but if i'm his father,
not that father, but if i'm his father, yeah, I
don't think it even get that far, because I don't
think you can check your.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
Kid when you like your kid.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Explain that.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
So he's kind of aesthetically I don't know him, but
he's kind of like a homie. It looked like he's
the homie with his son. Yeah, I'm gonna remain father.
So because I'm on, I always want to be able
to jackie up and you know, and say what I
want to say and have the same respect.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
And you're gonna respect me.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
But when I've been kicking the witch and hanging out
with your parting which and all is here, I don't
think it.
Speaker 5 (38:15):
I don't think I can say nothing to you and
me and you know, parents period, we have to be
okay with that. We have to be okay with being
a parent. Just we have to be okay with being
a parent, being the role that we're good for.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
And that's it. It's like I got being a parent.
I told my son this, and I told my daughter
the same thing. I like my role. I'm your daddy.
You ain't getting another one. I brought you here. Can't
nobody compete with me? I'm in a unique position, right,
(38:55):
can't nobody touch this? Nobody? Yeah, I'm daddy, you know
what I'm saying. So so you can go get a
bunch of friends and you can go find a friend today.
You can't go find another daddy today, No, you can't.
You know you can't do that. So I'm in a
unique position, and I like being in unique positions. So
I have a very unique position and a special set
(39:18):
of skills. As the dude said, I had a special
set of skills. Baby. Yeah, So I would rather if
I got a choice to be your friend or your father,
I'd rather be your father father right now. If if
we can be friends in addition to me being your father, Hey,
I take that. That's a beautiful thing. And actually that
(39:43):
actually had that actually, you know, begin to happen later on, Yes,
the kids got a little older. But initially I was like,
I'm daddy, and this is how it's gonna go. And look,
I'm the father, you're the son. If I start acting
like the son, it ain't gonna work. It ain't gonna wait,
you start acting like the father, it ain't gonna work.
(40:06):
And so I'm clear with my position with my kid. Yeah,
first and foremost daddy, and then anything after that. That's
what he called it, line yacht. That's that's extra. Yeah,
that's cool, that's icing on the cake. Yeah, but man,
these parents got to get back to being okay with
(40:26):
being a parent first.
Speaker 4 (40:28):
Because all the great stuff I've heard about Jo's father,
how he built the stuff in the backyard to make
him the great player he has become today. Man, his
daddy is being superb, you know what I'm saying. So
this ain't no shade on his daddy. His dad has
been excellent, but now he's at a level now to
(40:48):
where he still need his daddy, but not in a
different type of way.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
You know, I know what I'm saying. He needs that
in a different type of way. And man, I mean,
I just don't know.
Speaker 4 (40:59):
I just know just for me, and again I'm able
to look at it from a distance, but I just know, Na,
I'm not going to be you know, course I with
the shades.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
This is my son.
Speaker 4 (41:12):
This is my son's world. He's making the money now.
Yes I helped them get here and all that pushed
them whatever, but this is his world. I'm finna go
up here in this suite and I'm looking because I'm
trying to say, who trying to ruin my son's world?
Speaker 2 (41:28):
Well, whatever they got going on, I hate to see it, bro,
But it's too late because he's been conditioned. He's twenty three,
twenty four years old now, and whatever their relationship has
been is what it's going to be. You think that
in terms of the respect I got. You think about like,
(41:49):
think about your own family. You know, like whatever level
of respect that you had as a teenager, you probably
have the same respect right now. Yeah, if you didn't
respect them, then you probably don't respect them. Yeah, you know,
if you respected them, then you probably respect them now.
If if you had an uncle or aunt who you
know that was close to you in age, or they
(42:10):
you know, behaved like you, or they went to the
same places and y'all hung out and y'all had conversations
that were on the same age group level, y'all probably
have that same exact type of chemistry today. You know,
you probably having the same kind of conversation. You probably
see look at that person the same way as you know,
(42:31):
as opposed to that aunt or that uncle that you've
always revered as your elder. Oh man, I got to
be on my best bed when I come around him,
for sure. For sure that you know that's unpicked. You
know what I'm saying, that's Uncle Bubble.
Speaker 4 (42:44):
You know that's funny you say that me and I
lay wash. We travel together from timesime, I rode with him,
do some clubs when I'm not buked. And we were
in Arlington and his aunt units came to the show.
I had heard him, but man, when she came to
this show, this is why did no cussing this show.
(43:06):
He did the whole show, no cussing.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
All this here.
Speaker 4 (43:10):
Yeah, my boy, that boy said, I said, Man, you
ain't cuse names. Man, My unis over there.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
I said, oh, you know the call now, well it's
time to put you in check. Yeah, I know the
call that's scared is on Union.
Speaker 4 (43:25):
She and she got a presence of bottle too where
she walked in like, yeah, let me see what this
foolishness is about up in there.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:33):
Yeah, So now you're right when you say that you
boys the podcasts right back after the week.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
I want to go back, man, to give you your
flywers bro about you know, for being a trendsetter in
in that space, in that gospel space.
Speaker 3 (43:56):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Do you consider yourself a gospel commit a Christian comedian? What? Neither? Neither?
Speaker 4 (44:02):
I'm just a comedian spirituals neither. I'm just a comedian.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
Neither. I'm just a comedian trying to get a title. Man,
I don't want it, That's what I'm saying, because here's
the thing, I'm a comedian that happens to be a Christian.
Speaker 4 (44:16):
Okay, I still do the clubs. I do everything, come
with a chick. Do you know I performed at the
strip clubs before. People always asking, man, I don't matter
the divorced parties?
Speaker 3 (44:27):
Did I was like parties?
Speaker 4 (44:28):
Okay, I mean all type of things, you know, because
just whatever. So I'm a comedian that happens to be
a Christian. Reason why I say that. People like to
give you a title. But it's a bunch of Christians
out here with it that don't put the title on
their occupation, like it ain't.
Speaker 3 (44:43):
No Christian control company.
Speaker 4 (44:46):
Yes, you know they might be Christian, but damn yeah,
they don't throw it on their title. And then of
course the Bible saying, you know, you'll know the tree
by the fruit. So I ain't gotta keep putting in
your face I'm Christian. I mean you'll see it in
my show or you'll hear it in my talk, and
you know whatever.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
You know.
Speaker 4 (45:05):
So I don't really like, you know the title, but
people will give it to you because sometime they need
it for them to cut that check. So some churches
might be now what what type of comedian. Is it
a Cristian comedy? And we're like yeah, okay. And if
they say okay, well yeah I'm a Christian. If you
got to cut the check, that way, go ahead. But
(45:26):
I'm just a comedian.
Speaker 3 (45:27):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
But in that space, bro, you have ruled. I mean,
I don't remember a comedian in that space before you.
I just don't. And I'm sure that's probably somebody been
out there or whatever, but I just don't remember.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
Yeah, I'll give you something, miss uh you know Jonathaan Slocum,
I don't. Yeah, you do you remember Steve Harvey's shitcome?
Speaker 2 (45:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (45:53):
And he was one of his band members. His name
was Clyde. He was always like forgetful, but anyway, he
was one. Because these are the ones that I saw
before I came Slocum brodge guy named Roderick Rice. He
was really big, very talented too. And then this lady,
her name Trina Jeffries, but she go by sister Cantalog.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
She does a character on stage.
Speaker 4 (46:12):
And those were the three people that I saw in
this lane when I started, because I had to go
do a little research kind of see you know what
it is. And then when I saw them, I probably
bought their VHS's, watched them, and then I realized, oh yeah,
I can do this here, and then I put my
with my own way though.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
But and in fairness to them, you know, it ain't
like i'd be going to church like I would like
actually see them.
Speaker 3 (46:44):
But they really wasn't seen. That's another thing. That's what
I mean.
Speaker 4 (46:46):
Like the lane I mean, and maybe it's it's changing
now with the social media, but it's not a lane
of where you're gonna get a lot of flowers and
praise and at a rayation, but it is a lane
where you will live nice.
Speaker 3 (47:05):
You know se what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
Because church is always got fun.
Speaker 4 (47:07):
I always got celebrated, celebrate passing everything.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
Yeah, New Fun Day. Yeah, it's always something Wednesday, right,
Bible Study appreciation Day.
Speaker 3 (47:22):
So it's a lot of stuff. You just you just
gotta be tapped in.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
First best friend. They got it, but they got they
got it. Clebrating later day. Man, exactly what side piece day? What? Man?
What if they had that's the side piece day?
Speaker 3 (47:42):
That'll be tough. I don't want to perform at it either.
Speaker 4 (47:45):
It's gonna be it's gonna be a little it's gonna
be some violence at that particular, but yeah, I don't
want to.
Speaker 3 (47:50):
Perform at it. But yeah, man, so yeah you So
if you're looking for.
Speaker 4 (47:54):
A lot of oo's and ours and maybe being on
TV and all that, you know, highly unlikely.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
Well you get to oods and ours may not television.
Speaker 4 (48:05):
Yes, not television right right, but will you live nice
and and you know, maybe under the radar with it?
Speaker 3 (48:13):
And you know, I mean, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
did you you good?
Speaker 2 (48:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (48:17):
I mean, and I'm grown, so why at some point?
I of course, I'm like everybody else. You want the
movies and the city comes and all that. Then after
a while, you know, you just be like, man, shoot,
God been real kind to me. So I'm just gonna
enjoy and ride it out, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (48:34):
Do you still put yourself out there for the movies
and the sitcoms? Not? Really?
Speaker 3 (48:38):
I don't. I can't lie, I don't.
Speaker 2 (48:41):
I just you don't do any auditions, any.
Speaker 4 (48:44):
Auditions for the last audition I probably did was for
this HBO or the Showtime series, and I did it
on my phone. They wanted you to do the thing
on your phone. I said, I'm not into this.
Speaker 3 (49:00):
I'm not into any of the other new thing.
Speaker 4 (49:03):
No knock on it, because if had it came out
when I was in college, high school, or I be
on it. I'm just grown now. I mean I'm and
what I mean by grown, I just I'm stuck in
my ways, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (49:16):
Uh, And I know I am. So this ain't no again.
I ain't knocking a new way. I just I like
my ways.
Speaker 2 (49:24):
How many boys do you have?
Speaker 3 (49:25):
One? One boy, one girl?
Speaker 2 (49:27):
You're a boy and a girl. Now do you sometimes
have to like give your kids a second type look
or something when you're letting them know you're being serious
since dad is a comedian, Like do they ever get
do the wires ever get crossed?
Speaker 3 (49:44):
Sometimes?
Speaker 4 (49:44):
My son, my son fifteen, he about to be six, well,
he'll be sixteen in November.
Speaker 3 (49:49):
He pretty much you know, he a good little kid.
He a cool little kid.
Speaker 4 (49:56):
So I can't really say I even have really problems
with every now and then I got to put the
foot down. But he understand that his mama's probably she
worse like I'm.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
She's she's the disciplinarian.
Speaker 4 (50:10):
Yeah, like she the discipliner. Yeah, but I'm I talked
to the kids more I mean, I'm a hey man,
let me let you bro. You know that's what I'm doing.
She just if she find out he watched him pawn,
she I'm going to kill him. And I said, hey, Slo.
Speaker 3 (50:25):
Now, back in my day, we didn't have pawing her,
but we had playboy, we had penhouse, we had hustler.
Speaker 2 (50:32):
You know.
Speaker 3 (50:32):
It was VHS tapes. Somebody daddy had it.
Speaker 4 (50:36):
I said, yeah, so she'd be like, so you was
looking at this stuff. Yeah, man, I'm a boy. That's
that's what boys do. You know.
Speaker 3 (50:42):
Yeah, I said, come let me go high land him.
Speaker 4 (50:44):
And so I go up there and joke with it.
But I also bring my point home, you know, and
all that type of stuff.
Speaker 2 (50:52):
And so.
Speaker 3 (50:53):
But the little girl, she only five, but she the
you know, I ain't gonna even lie. She got me.
Speaker 2 (51:00):
I know she do yees?
Speaker 3 (51:01):
She five, She she got me. Anything they tell at
that house, she come to me, daddy, can I.
Speaker 2 (51:09):
Man go on?
Speaker 3 (51:10):
And they ain't get it. Man, I ain't tripping.
Speaker 2 (51:12):
Knowing what you know about boys, does it scare you
sometimes about raising her and what she might have to
experience with boys.
Speaker 4 (51:25):
It don't scare me. But so I always told my wife.
You know, this girl is gonna be like a project
for me. I'm gonna try to do something that I
haven't seen people do yet, that I haven't seen it.
I think people don't do it. I ain't seen it.
So when my daughter gets thirteen, I'm gonna put a
ring on her finger and put a ring on the finger.
Speaker 2 (51:46):
And what is the significance of putting a ring on
her finger?
Speaker 3 (51:49):
I'm put the ring on.
Speaker 4 (51:49):
I'm gonna say, listen, this ring and I'm putting on
your finger is me letting you know whatever you need,
whatever you won't da da da dada.
Speaker 3 (52:00):
Your daddy got it. You ain't got to seek it
from nobody else.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
I got it.
Speaker 4 (52:07):
And then when you find you a man who's gonna
do everything with your daddy, do you give me my
ring back and.
Speaker 3 (52:15):
You take his ring.
Speaker 4 (52:16):
Now, that's what I'm gonna tell her that Now other
things growing up, I ain't gonna even chest I ain't
gonna do a whole lot of chest time. So let's
say if she wears something I think is trampish, I'm
gonna go this what you wan? Yeah, Back in my day,
we run through girls like you. I'm gonna go I'm
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just I want to try this.
Speaker 2 (52:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (52:41):
We run through, Yeah, run through.
Speaker 2 (52:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (52:44):
We look at the girl like this and be like, yeah,
I'm finna, I'm gonna get that and like that dying Yeah,
blah blah blah, I'm gonnall.
Speaker 3 (52:49):
We but come on, let's go.
Speaker 2 (52:50):
This is what you wanna, Let's go.
Speaker 3 (52:51):
You know, instead of take that off, I'm not gonna
do that.
Speaker 2 (52:55):
I'm gonna.
Speaker 4 (52:56):
I want to see, hopefully I have a relationship with
it away. You know, she'd be like, dam man, my
dad don't like what I got on. And even if
she's still wed, it's just me and my dad.
Speaker 3 (53:08):
I don't like my dad don't really like this.
Speaker 4 (53:10):
So I ain't gonna probably wed no more. I mean,
you know, this ain't gonna be my thing. But I
ain't gonna never tell her don't wed or just whatever. Again,
it's a project. We'll see we older parents. We ain't like,
I'm not twenty and thirty no more. I'm fifty. So
I ain't finna.
Speaker 3 (53:26):
I can't.
Speaker 4 (53:26):
I don't even have the energy to do what a
thirty year old parent or do to somebody young like
this hip. So now I'm gonna try my way hopefully
my wife will gonna let me do it.
Speaker 2 (53:36):
But you know what's a good strategy is the same
strategy your dad used and your mom used on you.
Speaker 3 (53:46):
Okay, leader, leader, for sure, you're a leader, really I
do to my son for sure.
Speaker 2 (53:51):
Yeah. Yeah, because that's the same strategy I use with
my kids.
Speaker 3 (53:55):
Okay, yeah, you know, leader, and you're.
Speaker 2 (53:58):
You're absolutely right about that. Now, overreacting things, yeah, because
that's what a lot of fathers end up doing. Sure,
and then the daughty ends up rebelling. They say the
wrong things. Stuff come out man, and then sometimes when
it does come out wrong, they don't they're too proud
to go and apologize, you know, ye not wrong. Yeah,
(54:21):
and yeah, that's actually a secret weapon for for for
for parents, in my opinion, the uh, the ability to
apologize to their children when they're wrong, because we don't
have all answers.
Speaker 3 (54:34):
We don't.
Speaker 2 (54:35):
Yeah, but a lot of times parents, you know, we
operate under the system of do as I say, not
as I do. I was I was under that system.
Yeah yeah, but we really do have to leave by example.
And if we want our kids to be good communicators
in the world, then we have to be a good
(54:56):
communicator for sure. Yeah, so yeah, buts key, Yeah, but
I'm yeah, I mean you're a comedian, so you know, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (55:04):
It's key, but you but you know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (55:08):
But I'm proud of you for saying that though, man,
because a lot of fathers they're just not uh they're
not like in tune like that, you know, they're not
thinking like that that foreign and thing. Do you how
would you handle your son? How are you handling your
(55:30):
son as far as like how he communicate with girls?
Speaker 4 (55:35):
Yeah, so I remember crazy my wife, you know, she
go through my son's phone. You know, she got everything
to her phone and everything.
Speaker 3 (55:44):
So my son's like, man, why should be going through
my phone?
Speaker 4 (55:46):
I was like, yeah, she gotta trust you first. Like
I've had a few had a few bottles with that too,
but I don't have that problem no more. But anyway,
but I told you, I said, I told him. I said, yeah,
I'm gonna check your phone and stuff because you young
and dumb and yeah this I talked, Yeah, you're young
(56:07):
and dumb, and so she gonna be checking it. So anyway,
she got on the phone one time, saw he cussing.
So she was like, and I used to tell here.
Speaker 3 (56:17):
You know your son cuts, I'm my son, all right, man.
Speaker 4 (56:22):
So anyway, she finally custs. So my wife was like, yeah,
I'm gonna kill him. I said, now wait till I
get home. I was out of town. Wait till I
get home.
Speaker 3 (56:30):
So we get home and with my son, he know, Willie,
if you tell me the truth, I can help you.
Speaker 4 (56:39):
But if you're lied to me, I can't do nothing
for you, mane. And I don't want to do nothing
for you, cause you don't never actually have to lie
to meat, no matter how bad it is. You never
got a lot of meat because I'm your like you
were saying, Earth, I'm your daddy.
Speaker 3 (56:51):
I'm here. I'm here to cover you, to help you.
This what I'm here par So, I don't care how
bad it is. You never got like me. So my
son he kind of got that down pretty good. So
we get on from school and that boy come in there.
What's up dad? I was out of town.
Speaker 4 (57:06):
He out heyp and me and his mama sitting there,
and then he was like, what up, mama. You know
he got he got personality too, like, what's up, mama?
Speaker 2 (57:13):
You good? All that?
Speaker 3 (57:15):
I see it up?
Speaker 4 (57:16):
Say well, let me ask you a question. He's like,
what's up, Dad? I said, do you cuss? The boy
looked at his mama. The boy looked back at me
and was like.
Speaker 2 (57:27):
Sometimes, yeah.
Speaker 3 (57:29):
Why does that boy say yeah, mom about to get him?
Speaker 4 (57:31):
I said, because you know, you never want to ask
you to me, ask your kid for the truth, and
then they give the truth. And then the first thing
you want to do is go outside their head because
now you you kind of you know, mess up them
telling the truth.
Speaker 2 (57:47):
You know, the next time they don't trust you, don't
trust you.
Speaker 3 (57:49):
Not Yeah, So I said, told the mama chillop. So
I said, bro, I said, why are you cuz?
Speaker 4 (57:55):
He said, Dad, I don't even know trying to be Oh,
I guess I don't even have to cuss the mother
dude have to.
Speaker 3 (58:02):
I ain't even gotta do it. It was a great
answer for me.
Speaker 4 (58:05):
I was like, that's a pretty good answer. But anyway,
but I said, but listen, my problem is it's not
about your cussing. It's me you shouldn't cuss. But that
ain't my problem. My problem is how you was talking
to this girl on this text message. Because he was
talking to a girl, you know, he said a few things.
(58:27):
I said, so what's up with that?
Speaker 3 (58:28):
He was like, man, Dad, this girl she'd be blah
blah blah blah. She always I said, hey, man, typically
you'll age a girl typically likes you if she's like this.
Speaker 2 (58:37):
He huh.
Speaker 4 (58:38):
I was like, yeah, girls, this bothering you and picking
on you or whatever that you're saying right now, typically
they like you at this age.
Speaker 3 (58:46):
I say, so, man, what you just need to do? Dog?
Come on, you gotta tell her, hey, hey, what's up?
Do you like me or something?
Speaker 4 (58:53):
Is that why you always don't say, don't lose your
personality that you have when it's time now talk to
this girl. Why are you letting her get you out
of you? And you're now you cussing and all this here?
Keep your saying from that. Do you see me cussing?
Speaker 3 (59:06):
Not your mama? And you know all is it? I
still use my same with joke game everything when I'm
talking to your mama. And so he was like, you know,
I get it.
Speaker 4 (59:13):
So I just try to, you know, have him, you know,
just showing him that there's other ways. You ain't got
to because you mad no girl, and just because everybody
else calling them bees and and that you ain't got
the falling suit, you know with.
Speaker 2 (59:28):
That, you know, yeah, that's good advice.
Speaker 3 (59:31):
Yea.
Speaker 2 (59:32):
The same time that the first time I witnessed my
son cussing. Yeah, I read his what do they call
that instant like one of those messages on MSN.
Speaker 3 (59:44):
Okay yeah yeah, competer, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (59:47):
That boy was cussing.
Speaker 3 (59:47):
Yes, they know cuss good.
Speaker 2 (59:50):
I had never heard him cuss before. I never known
him to cuss, never heard anything. R He's like, he's
like twelve thirty years.
Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
It is.
Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
Because well.
Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
I was like, damn, but I had to catch myself.
I said, he learned from the best man. Well he
learned from the best, and uh, I don't even think
he know that. I well, he'll know now. But but
I never even told about that. I knew, but I
(01:00:29):
think I may have. I had these inadvertent conversations with him,
you know when I know something or whatever, and just
so I probably came up to him and said, hey, uh,
you know, when you cuss, you know, I probably seen
somebody else cuss or something like that hurts. You know,
(01:00:51):
people cussed when they don't have anything, say, we don't
have any other words, you know, I probably see like that. Yeah,
so I hit him like that a lot of times.
But any man, Yeah, I want to ask you this, man,
before you get out of here. You've done a lot
of things in your career. You've had a lot of success,
(01:01:13):
You've received a lot of praise, you know, O side
of family. Is there anything else that you want out
of your career?
Speaker 3 (01:01:24):
That's a good question.
Speaker 4 (01:01:26):
And the crazy part when people ask me that question,
I don't even know, Willie. Man, all I ever wanted
to do in.
Speaker 3 (01:01:33):
Life was be successful and whatever that looked like. That
don't mean comedy. I just want to be able.
Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
Man.
Speaker 4 (01:01:42):
I wanted good credit, you know. You know, I was
very simple. I wanted good credit, you know what I'm saying.
Of course, become a family. I want to be able
to go on family vacation at least once a year,
you know, me and my boys. We can go to
catch some games, you know, stuff like that. I'm real
simple cat. And so now that I'm able to do
(01:02:02):
these things, it's almost like I got a dream again,
Like because this is this has been this has been done,
this has been sustained or you know, and now.
Speaker 3 (01:02:16):
I don't even know, man, I just I just get up.
I just go to work. You know, I want to
eat stuff.
Speaker 4 (01:02:21):
I want to eat from every lip of the menu,
you know, because I just remember when I was in college,
I take a girl like I just appetized it.
Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
I couldn't.
Speaker 4 (01:02:30):
I won't no sense even flipping the menu more. You
just flip it one time, okay, suceter, We right here.
You don't, don't, don't you down flip flip another not
a naw another page?
Speaker 3 (01:02:41):
We right here.
Speaker 4 (01:02:42):
That's wings, that's tender us. You know what I'm saying.
That's calamari.
Speaker 3 (01:02:47):
Were right here. And so I just want it. I
just wanted that.
Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
Man.
Speaker 3 (01:02:50):
I want to go out with my balls and say
I got it. Yeah, I mean, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (01:02:54):
And so I don't know, man, I'm trying to find
out you know what's next. I mean, I'm doing the
comedy and comedy going is going well still and but yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:03:08):
Man, I gotta I gotta dream again.
Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:03:11):
That's that's the only only answer I could really give
without making up something lying to you.
Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
I mean, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
Well, you got it, man, and thank god you gave
it to us.
Speaker 3 (01:03:20):
Bro appreciate it. Hold on, I want to tell you this.
Do you remember one time you called me you.
Speaker 4 (01:03:26):
Was about to do a comedy show or something. This
was this was before the pandemic. This was probably two
thousand and sixteen or something. I don't know this, this
a while ago, but watch this. At that time, I
know of you, I don't know you. And you called
just out the blue, Yeah, I'm looking for Marcus.
Speaker 3 (01:03:47):
Why. I said, yeah, it's me. You was like, yeah,
this is Willie D. And I said v Willie D.
And you was like yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:03:58):
I said I make big money. I drive big calls
with it. And you was like yeah, and so your reputation.
He was like, yeah, willing don't play you know what.
I was like, man, I thought that was funny. But
you only you want to hear.
Speaker 3 (01:04:10):
Me with Yeah. I was like, oh, well yeah this Marcus.
Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
I got on.
Speaker 3 (01:04:18):
Yeah, but you were trying to put together something.
Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
I said, oh, that was so funny to me. Yeah,
I remember that because you you you were you were
already booked for something.
Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
I was, yeah, I had something going on, right, Yeah, boy?
Speaker 4 (01:04:30):
But I said I make big money. I try big
cars with the DA you're talking about. Yeah, I said, whoa.
I thought that was gonna get a little bit more,
get more laughter than that. Well, look man, better lady
than that. I appreciating the laughter now, I appreciate it.
And when I told my wife I was coming to
your paulcast, she talking about.
Speaker 3 (01:04:50):
The clean up man.
Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
I said, yeah, yeah, Ladies.
Speaker 3 (01:04:57):
And gentlemen, appreciate you. Thanks for having man.
Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
Thank you talk.
Speaker 1 (01:05:04):
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