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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Ye get you know, boys, it's back and reot it
all in your mind. Yeah, not deep throating. This is
for the streets, the reel, the railroading, the distant franchise,
the truth escape building. And they ain't knowing we speak
the truth, so they ain't quoted because we wrote it.
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keeping your head bobbing, it ain't no stopping and wants
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to be drops head by. And then the system is
so corrupt they throw the rock out of their hands
and then blame it on us. Don't get it twisted
on code and me and dancing for no buttament biscuits.
It's Willie d y'all scar faces in the building. Collectively
we are the ghetto Boys, reloaded with another episode of
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information and instructions to help you navigate through this wild, crazy,
beautiful world in the studio Ghetto ghet On ghet old boy,
what's up? Kay? Now? Why you are you taking ships
so personal? Man? I can't, I can't, I can't. I
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like like you were talking about how you want to
you you're talking about how you wanted to be shot
from the chest up here. You know how you don't
want me eating a sunflower season. Um. Well, you know,
people people pay for to watch us with their time,
and you know they have a lot of sunflower seeds
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where they have a lot of options. You know, they
have a lot of options some flower seeds, really And
when people listening to our podcast, you know, they want
to hear clarity. Man. They don't want to be distracted
by somebody chewing ice and it and and busting up
sunflower seeds in their mouth and all that kind of sky.
You know, we have an obligation to the people. Okay, well,
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thanks for clarifying that ship absolutely absolutely well, happy happy
um happy Monday, Happy happy, happy Monday man. And uh
you know, you know what kind of bitter sweet because
on one hand, you know, I think the biggest thing
out happening right now is the mare Hamlet's situation. Man
that was cold blooded by man. That was bad. But
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the beautiful thing is that he's still with with us.
Condition Yeah, but he's still with us, Willie. So you know,
I've been coaching football for a long as soon and
I cannot imagine um, a little kid getting hit standing
up and then dying and being resuscitated and then dying
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again to be resuscitated again. I mean they pull, they
pull the things out. Brother, that is fucking devastating, Willie.
Have you ever seen something like that before somebody make
a hit? Never? And then no, no, I have never
seen that. Well I've seen some good Um, I've seen
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some good stuff on football fields, you know, some good hits.
But I have never seen nobody, you know, um injured
to that capacity and that that that man, that's actually
actually that's scary. Man. It's making me rethink my career
in football coaching. I read do some ship that's non
contact now, like baseball or basketball or something. Man, that's scary, Willie.
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You know, but you know, and I gave that a
lot of thought because you know, growing up I played football,
I boxed to very dangerous sports. But nobody I can't
understand what you're saying that some people have boxing, but
nobody could tell me different when I got out earlier enough, man,
because I knew that that would be imminent, I had
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no clue. But but man, um, I'm thinking, you know,
this kid, these kids are on the football field, and
something as devastating as a kid having to be resuscitated, yeah,
right in front of their eyes, right there. Live and
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somebody says and not in these words, but the show
mus go on. Yeah, I mean, do you think that
was taking out of context at all? You thought he
said what he meant? He said what people people interpreted?
How the fucking you? How you saying? How can you
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mean anybody else? Let's find exact words. I know the
exact words. That's not what he said, That's not what
he said verbatim, But that's what the funk he meant, Willie,
and I guarantee you we'll go ahead and read it, man,
because I don't want to jump togun, but I know what,
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I know what he meant. Okay, here's here's the tweet
as the tweet he said in that particular tweet. Um,
no doubt the NFL is considering postponing the rest of
this game. But how this late in the season, a
game of this magnitude is crucial to the regular season
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outcome to the crucial to the regular season I come,
which suddenly seems so irrelevant. So it seems like to me,
not don't hear me out? You know, I'm hear me.
I'm absolutely no fan of Skipped Bailey's I don't like
the dude. I don't believe he likes us. Okay, so,
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but but I'm not a fan of him. Right. But
when I read this tweet, uh, I'm reading this tweet
like people are hearing what they want to hear. Because
of the messenger. We know he has a history of
saying things that are out of pocket. He has a
history of getting out of pocket. But if that was
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any doubt what he meant. At the very end, he said,
which sudden least seems so irrelevant. It seems out come
of the football season. He said, it seems irrelevant. He said,
suddenly seems irrelevant. And to me, it just died on
the football bail. But then, but then also you look
at the tweet, this tweet before that, and he said,
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nothing is more important. Let me see, um, let me
get this out of here. And it's weird trying to
look at this thing. Okay, he said, damn, can you
pull this thing up? Just down? Phone tripping, man. I
don't think it's the phone. I think it's the phone.
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You would think that, why you know why you would
think that because you are the barrier of doom. I'm
the barrier of doom. Uh hey, okay, he said, nothing
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the problem is they've got something something that's on top
of it's like you know how they put that film
on top of these these uh damn I understand. But nonetheless, Willie,
nonetheless he's um, he's he's he's always had a um
a disdain when it came to um the black athlete
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bro in my opinion, all right, because like I was
saying earlier, if it hadn't been Baker Mayfield or uh
Tom Brady or you know, he would have wanted he
would have wanted the whole season stopped. Oh if it
had been Tom Brady. Yeah, these guys should have stopped
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playing football. They should have all got in their car
and went home. Exactly. Yeah. No, man, we're not buying
that ship from you skip and and and and and
you know, going back to all of that ship that
that that you say, and and and and those um
uh fews that you have with um the big homie Shannon,
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I just think you're a piece of ship, bro, And
I think that that needs to be addressed. Shannon, Ain't
your big homie? You older than Shannon? That motherfucker bigger
than me, big, big, big, bigger than you. Size has
nothing to do with stature. You know you that you
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got those stripes. It does it? So you mean to
tell me that, Well, I can't give him a pass, bro,
I cannot give Skip a pass for that. No, I'm
I'm not trying to give him nothing, you know, I'm
just saying what it is. He's just always saying some
fun up ship. He told Shannon Sharp that he's not
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that good. Mother you ain't playing? Has Skip ever playing
it down the football? Where as he ever played down?
But has he ever played? And then you're talking about
you're not as good as him? He's great, right? Fuck you, Skip?
Fuck you and Shannon can't say that, But I came
in fuck you and every man that defends you. Fuck
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you're talking about he's a better football player. He ain't
took no motherfucking hits. He he ain't had to. He
ain't had that boy stop that ship skill. He might
have been a sacked a few hundred times. But we're
talking about taking some fucking hits. M hmmm. We're talked
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about coming across that middle. And but at the end,
what he said prior to that tweet that everybody is
dragging and for he actually said that I'm praying for
the young man and in his family. That's what he said.
That's what he said prior to and he followed up
with the other tweet, not this is what I think happened.
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Let me let me champ share my theory. This is
what I think happened. I think in an effort as
him him being a journalist and an effort to be
the first one to to say something that you know,
could get a bunch of likes or whatever. He he
didn't pay attention to. He didn't read the room. He
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didn't read the room. And then and and that's the
thing about text messages, electronic communications. They don't have personality.
So you got you can't You don't have the benefit
of watching somebody, listening to somebody's tone, watching their facial expressions,
that their their disposition. It's just the words. And so
a lot of times words get taken out of context.
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That Willie, what did I say? I heard you, But
listen to what I'm saying to you. Though. The man
was um in another heated discussion with with with with
sharp and he said he's not gonna take you down.
What what what he did you talk about recently? Right? Yeah,
just saying it on TV, right, now he's not gonna
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take what down. You're not gonna take that tweet down.
I was looking at something on on my phone and
Shannon Sharp was was was talking about the incident and
he said, and uh, Skip made a tweet that I
hope he's gonna take down, and he jumped in pop
on the mother nine, I'm not gonna take it down.
Let me ask you this, if you tweeted out something
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that was insensitive, hold on, go ahead. If you tweeted
out something that you thought was not insensitive, if you
thought it was not insensitive, if you thought you were
right and everybody else thought you were wrong, would you
stand on it? It depends. It depends on what's involved.
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If I called um, if I if I called um
Skip Bayless a fucking noodle, well I take that down.
If everybody said that that was sucked up an insensitive No.
But if I call Skip Bayless a noodle and he
and he fucking he lost one of his kids or
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some ship, and I was, you know, just being real hard,
I pull that down because that's that would be extremely
insensitive on my part. So it's intention that's intentional militian being,
that's intentionally being malicious if I take it down. No,
I'm saying if you was to say something like that
knowing that his kid had died, that's different. It's totally different,
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you know, I think, I think intent it's everything. And
like I like I said, you know, I went in
on him when he when he you know, said he
said about and before that. I don't like Skip Bayless
at all. But I'm gonna call a striker striking and
ball the ball man, and I just don't believe that.
I do believe that people took what he said out
of context. What I like to see, uh, what I
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like to see him canceled. Absolutely. I don't like him.
He's not he's saying something about some black I don't
think they're going to cancel him. I mean, I mean,
he's down for you know, he's a company man. You know,
they hired him to do what he do. He's doing
exactly what they want him to do. You know, even
with creating the controversy, you know, that's part of that,
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that's part of the whole narrative. I'm not a fan
of Skip Bayliss, but I don't believe that he made
that tweak with ill intent. That's what I'm saying, and
I do believe. Now, now here's the thing, my side
of answering that same question that I opposed to you.
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You know, if I felt like what I said, what's
the right thing, and if everybody was against me, would
I leave it up? Well, here's the thing. Okay, I'm
gonna I'm gonna go right back with you. But what
you said, it depends, It depends, It depends. Its absolutely,
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it absolutely would depend um and and and I don't
I don't know what's in dues heart. I don't know
what in regards to that particular incident. But I can
tell you this, if in that situation, that exact situation,
had I made that comment and people felt something that
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type of way that they feel about it, I would
have taken that particular tweet down. Okay, I would have
took it down to especially like, well, I'm just a
different breed. But that was very very in my opinion, really,
that was very insensitive. Man. That man took a hit
that through his heart be off to the point where
he fucking died. H But you have to understand a
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lot of these people that work in journalism, that work
in the media, man, they don't have the heartless. If
they don't, they don't have a heart. A lot of
people that work in they don't have heart, and they
pretty much don't the heart ain't really required to do
what they do. If they had a heart, they wouldn't
cover they wouldn't say half the things that they say.
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You know, Now, obviously there's always an exception to the rule.
That's always some good people out there that are in journalism.
That's some good people that are fighting the good fight
every single day, and I applaud them. But you know,
for the most part, man, if you want to advance
in media, I mean, you're gonna have to be a
company man or a company woman. You're gonna have to
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take your watching artists and you know, shut up and
and dribble. Ain't Willie. I don't know, bro, I can't
just shut him and dribble dribble. I know I'm gonna
talk some ship. I'm gonna talk to that man. Yeah
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voice Relogi podcast when she right back after the poet,
but to to talking about some some uh some malicious
and and uh ill shit, what's up with your boy
man with the chicken on the ground and serving the
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in wait hold up time out what the fucking mouse
running around the house. Hey man. They were saying something
about that restaurant being associated with you, Jordan's Fish and Chicken,
Jon's Fish and Chicken and Indianapolis, Indiana. Y'all need eat
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y'all asses, I mean every single employee owner, y'all need
y'all asses. Whooped. I mean to the white meat fam
they serving people food off the ground. Well I don't,
I don't. I don't like off the floor. They's they got,
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the food is in past. They got the food in past,
and it's on the floor. Why is it on the floor.
Because they're uncivilized. That's why it's on the floor. They're uncivilized,
and they don't care anything about the people that they
served that's in that community. So that's why they need
to get the funk out. Absolutely So listen, uh, ladies
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and gentlemen, do not um patronize these um restaurants in
your neighborhoods that don't have your best interests and your
health at at. Let's let's make sure that we specify
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this particular restaurant because from what I understand, this restaurant
actually jacked the name of another restaurant. Actual franchise. They
jacked the name. It's the nationality and the people that
were in this restaurant. And you don't, mommy, ask their foreigners.
I don't know what the nationality is, but don't go
and do that. One guys that place, but there are foreigners.
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And the address is seventy North Post Road in a
nap town, Jordan's Fish and Chicken. It's shut down for
the time being. It should have to pass an inspection.
But I'm like, my, why why do they have to
pass shut down at and? And they should go to
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jail man. The owners need to be executed. The people
who even worked at they have some culpability in this also.
They shouldn't just get a path has to say you know, hey,
I'm just following the instructions, you know, kind of like
you know what what the Nazis did, right, Like, oh,
I'm just following instruction. I'm putting people in this oven
because they told me to. Now you have some culpability
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that you have to have some humanity, You have to
have some sense of civility and responsibility for your actions.
The people who work there should also be held accountable.
But you know what they all that all might be
one family. Will you imagine how many people got sick
over the years going to that place and probably didn't
really realize that it was because they went that to
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eat food parson and food parsoning kills more people than anything.
Food the stuff that you put in your body. And
if that stuff is not right, yeah, you know it's there.
It's already genetically altered. That's a problem already. But then
genetically altered, well, they putting chemicals and stuff food. Yeah,
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and so so besides that, you have people who are
serving your food off the floor on a inside of
a rat infested building, and they're stepping over the food
as they're serving you and taking orders. They're actually stepping
over the food. Bro stepping over the food serving people
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was the food was the food covering up with the
food wasn't covered. It was just down. It was just
on the floor, on the floor. It was on the floor.
Because they are uncivilized people. People will no, Willie, you
have to be on slas to do something. Really, Listen, man,
did they not have tables in this place? I didn't
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see anything, So it's just they they had nothing to
put it on, so just put it on the floor
where they you know, they got a restaurant, they got
a popping restaurant, and they're making money. I think they
can afford they can afford a cash register, They can
afford the table. You know, if they can afford a
whole pan full of chicken, they can afford the table.
I think that those people men who run those restaurants
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in our neighborhood shouldn't be there in the first place,
because they have no they have no respect, passion, respect
for nothing for us, you know. So I I vote
that that that that everybody stopped going to that place.
Stop going to those places where people don't respect your dollar,
or they follow you around the fucking stoy, go somewhere else. Bro.
The sad part is, BRO, is that we cannot convince
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the people who still attend these places, who still patronize
these places, any different. Man. I know something so something
so he cool. We can't we can't get someone so
ain't cool. So and so so and so got you
eating off the fucking floor. You know, they're not nice people.
And I want everybody to to to to listen and
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hear me when I say this, man, They're not looking
out for you. They just want your dollar. They don't
give a funk about your health, because when you die
from heart disease or diabetes or kidney failure, whatever the
funking is, the person that comes behind you was gonna
be their new customer, and you just you just a number,
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like please, y'all, please patch up. Let's patch up and
start putting some businesses in our neighborhoods that um that
reflects us. If the people look really, if the people
that are in those stores don't look like you, then
you shouldn't spend your money there. Well said, I ain't
got no problem with that, and shouts out to the
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brother who filmed it. She was talking side to you, brother,
shot side to you, man, you're doing God's work, and
shot side to the sister who pointed the damn rat
out like he's like, yeah, you see nothing. Yeah, yeah.
He wasn't even bother that. The rat was not bothered
that they were in his presence. He's like, what y'all
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doing here? Like y'all, I don't I'm gonna was coming
over here at least pass and they and these uh
trains on the floor and get my mother fucking lunch
and y'alling trimping. They was selling chicken and red soup.
I have I have a friend that makes gumbo. Right, wow,
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I have a friend that makes gumbo. Well, I'm not
gonna say that makes gumbo. We're kind of gumbo flying
gumbo with flying shrimp, flying shrimp. Huh. I believe that
way it said. But yeah, anyway, that was fucked up.
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But I was looking at um at the news this
morning and early and we still have not well, they
still have not chosen or speaker for the House with it.
After three or four cycles of votes they haven't chosen.
So what do you think it's gonna happen? I honestly
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believe that they're gonna sit there and mother Fun's just
gonna just get tired and just go ahead and put
um McCarthy. Yeah they're not they're not. Uh, Jeffries, he
has no chance. And they just brought another guy. His
name is Um Byron Byron, Oh shit Byron something to
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Donald Byron, Donald black Republican. He's not gonna make it.
So they're just gonna keep going to the vote and
then people are gonna get tired and they're gonna choose McCarthy.
How good of a job do you think, Nascy Pelosi
did I did. She not doing a good job at all?
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Motherfuck a lock? He got tired of say many so
Nancy Pelosi, Um, you know what I text? Whennot I
didn't text. I posted on Instagram when they talked about
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her hitting the gable for the first for the last time,
for the final time, I said, job not well done. Yeah,
you can't win, Williams. We can't win, bro. You know, um,
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regardless of who's the Speaker of the House, Willie, we're
still gonna be faced with the same ship exactly. Okay. Uh,
the Republicans is gonna want you to keep your money
and the Democrats are gonna want to take away your money.
So if you got some money or you don't have
any money, it doesn't matter. You know, she's not gonna
it's not gonna work out well for for this group
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of people, or it's not gonna work cout well for
that group of people. But somebody's gonna get fucked every time.
So no matter what, at at the minimum half of America,
it's going to taking all pretty much, and and and
and you know what, the black people in America is
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gonna keep an l I hear a lot of people
talk about we need to get our own political party.
Black people need to have their own But what does
that mean is that it's a political party that is
headed by black people, made for black people, for black people.
So is that gonna is that the candidate are we
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just gonna hold our vote and and and they're gonna
to come see us? You know what? But I think
that's the way, bro, to hold our vote, to hold
block those votes. Do a block vote, Like, listen, this
is what this is what will happen if you really
think by they just got a block vote. But I
don't even think they got a block. They vote, they vote,
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they vote, they vote in block blocks. Do you see
how they're coming in and they're getting in these political
seats now they're starting to their infiltrating. Brother, they're getting
in and they are blocking their votes. They're holding a
whole block. And so if we imagine that we had
you know, I don't know, eight million votes, Let's say
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we just had eight million, ten million votes, and we
just held on those ten million votes, we're still you're screwed.
Let's say we had ten million votes, a block of
ten million votes, that's our bargain and chilled and we say, yo,
if you won't these ten million votes, we'll give them
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to you. But you're gonna have to do this, this this.
At the end of the day, all of these seats
will the same amount of power, no matter if a
Republican sits in that seat or a Democrat sits in
that seat. It wiels the same amount of power and
influence and the same and it's got the same paycheck
attached to it. And I mean, you know, it ain't
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about the paycheck. It's about paycheck. It's about the money
and the power and the influence that comes with that check,
that comes with that chair. So this is what they're
fighting over. They're not fighting over humanity or the good
of humanity or for the good of humanity. They're fighting
for money and power. And that's why we still continue
to have to deal with the things that we deal
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with because many of us really just don't really understand
that that's really what it's about. It ain't about you're
trying to do the good do a person trying to
do the right thing. They're gonna do what's right by
you based on what you give them. It's a it's
an exchange of goods and services. Yeah. But when they
when you get them in there, man, they don't know you. Yeah.
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But what I'm saying is, but what I'm saying is
that when you get them in there and you're backing
it up with that block and you and you also
backing it up with money, they know the hell out
of you. They know you very well. We're not gonna
get that. You're not gonna get that without playing the
money game. You're not gonna get that without blocking those votes.
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Because we got too many people that's willing to go solo.
There's too many people that can be bought out, you know.
So it's got to be a code. It's gotta be
it's gotta be a code established. And you've got too
many people that's off code, that like being off code
because you know, they actually liked the idea of the division.
You know, you got the self loading folks out there.
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You know the coconuts. You know, the coconuts are dangerous.
The coconuts are very dangerous. Man. I wish it was
a way, Excuse me, I wish it was a way
that we could vote on. We didn't need a House
or a Senate to vote for us. We voted for ourselves.
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So when ship came up, we voted on it ourselves.
You know what I mean? Like that that that reparation
Bill Man, that ship shouldn't have to go to the House.
I'll go to the Senate. That ship should go to
the people, like right now, you know what I mean?
And and and and the the Supreme Court has so
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much power in this country until you know, they can
sign a signature and and we're back in slavery really,
And that's what we're not taking in consideration. Since everything
that we have granted to us by this UH country
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was issued by and agreed to by a judge for
us to have it. So if they can overturn ship,
they can overturn us being free. You see what I'm saying.
That's that's that's that's the reality of it, and we're
not looking at it that way. They can. They have
that kind of power. And until we can uh ta
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control of our own destiny and put our put the
right people, our uh elected officials in that that have
our best interests at hard, we're gonna always be subjected
to that type of ship happening. You know, if they
can stop, if they can overturn a Roe V. Wade
or overturn affirmative action, or just imagine what they could
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do to slavery, I mean, uh, to black people when
it came to putting them back in captivity. Mario cut
the agoniztion off. Just imagine what they could do when when? When? When? When?
Without freedom? Bro? So let's just say it went down.
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Let's see the wheels fell off and it went down,
and they say, okay, it's the return to slavery. Come on, Brad,
let's go. You're going Are you what you gonna do?
I'm gonna die? Why are you gonna die? You're gonna
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kill I mean, I'm just saying they're gonna they're gonna
kill me. I'm gonna kill first. Oh yeah, I'm gonna
get on the man. I might die, but I'm gonna
killing mocking asks like you know, like you wouldn't believe.
But I already know what they do to runaway slaves.
And then they'll probably hang me out down there city
Hall where every motherfucking body can see me, so they
won't get no bright ideas. What do you think it's
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worse like being a runaway slave risking getting caught and
then and lynched. Are just Okay, who is that? Who?
What's what's that show? Is that good ass? A good
asser family? Few good as it's cold bloody Willie were.
We've been granted all of our rights by Judge bro By.
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Judge A judge said it was cool for us to
be able to sit here together today and do this
podcast and and and the and these people listen to us,
because at the stroke of opinion, all this ship could
be overturned, and and the pole he could come to
a slave patrol to come and lock our ads back up,
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and and um lock our adds back up and sell
us off to the people that want to buy us.
I want to kill us, you know, I want us
to work their ship for free. And like I say,
until we get the economics, the money and put people
in place that can stop this ship from happening. And
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I ain't talking about this is gonna be real funed
up for me to say this, but I can't. I
can't hold that back with it. And we're gonna get canceled. Man,
when you stop saying that, she ain't gonna be no canceling. Okay,
So then this is so bad? Why does I think
that the people that are in control that make the
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decisions don't have our interest at heart. You know what
I'm saying that's supposed to being man she black, oh
man he black, you know, but they're so disconnected from
our community because of where where they've been laying voice
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reloaded podcasts will be right back after the point where
do you think it's worst systemic racism or individual racism? Systemic? Absolutely? Yeah.
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Racism is everything you do, is everything that you try
to do, you have something guarding you, guarding you and
and and holding you back from getting that done because
of the color of your skin. Period. Yeah, it's structural.
It's people. It's individuals who wake up every day trying
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to figure out how they can move that goal post
more to hold us back, to stop us from scoring.
And and what I what I cannot understand for the
life of me, is that how someone don't understand that
if if black people are winning, America is winning, Like
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we make up a large percentage of America, not third,
not percent, We're probably somewhere closer to thirty percent. We've
been stuck on. I ain't never seen nothing stuck on
thirteen or any kind of percentage for an entire three
or four decades. We've for about three or four decades.
But anyway, I think our numbers, I think our numbers
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are closer to around. And that's why they that's why
they mean ho these census um since its every few
years to see who's all here. Yeah, you know, maybe
they lying with as making up stuff. Man, you can't
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you can never believe their numbers. You know what I'm saying.
If somebody won't treat you right, they won't teach you right. Boy,
boy boy, that's heaven. So you can't believe. That's why
when we see all these statistics populate, well in this category,
black's rated. This man who is keeping up with all
of this? Who who who's doing these surveys? It ain't us?
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And and and if it is the same people who
are part of the systemic or the structural racism, why
would we believe them? I would? So when okay, well
you you you you Willie d right, and you marry
a white woman and she's racist, where we all know
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that ain't gonna happen, But go ahead, I'm just saying,
go ahead for the sake of but she's racist. But
she's racist, and and and and you know it that
it is she's a racist. You know, ah, that's not
police brtality. Those guys were resisting arrest. Yeah, you know, like,
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how how does that make a man feel or how
does that make a woman feel or think? You know,
if they keep hearing this ship every time, you know,
something go on in our community, how does that make
the individuals start thinking? Now, you know what my husband
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says that, uh, that's not that's that's not racist, that's
you know, he deserved that. Or my wife says that
that's not um discrimination, that's uh, that's what she deserved.
I think what they deserved. They are animals. They got
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your spouse has you thinking that your people are animals?
And now I've rescued you and you're here with me. Now,
I think, no matter how much you are in love,
I'm gonna give you the benefit of daughter. No matter
how much you are in love, how great your intentions are.
If you're in an interracial relationship, you're compromised because if
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you see something happening on the other side that's a
violation to your side. You may give it a pass
because you need peace in your house. You know, you
want peace. If you want to start an argument, start
talking about racism. Start and start talking about race, talk
about religion, you know, speak along those lines and politics
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and you gotta fight. So I think in an effort
to keep the peace, people will oftentimes not speak the
truth to power when it comes to situations like racism.
And so I think, no matter you know what your
race is, if if you're if you're in a relationship interracial,
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interracial relationship, you're gonna be compromised. Even if it's an
Asian person and relationship with a white person, I think
they're both of them going to be compromised because then
if you if you see, if one sees a violation
from their side, on the other side, it's like, oh,
you know, like you try to act like maybe it's
a big deal, but you know it ain't. You're not
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gonna have I don't think you would have the same
reaction that you would have if you were in the
same race relationship. I don't think that could be wrong,
but I just don't think I think that true if
we don't. If we don't, and I'm not saying speak
the same language, like like um, you know, English and
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Spanish or Spanish and uh Portugal or whatever, like if
we don't speak the same language, like we we don't
we're not on the same page. Like if you don't
have compassion for my community and I don't have compassion
for yours, then we're gonna always uh conflict when it
comes time to talk about these or or be a
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part of these different issues that take place in our community,
whether it be his or hers, or hers or his, like,
it's gonna always be a conflict. You know, if you
really want to know the truth about it, if you
take every single let's look at black and white, if
you take every single this is not if you take
every single black person, that's every single interracial couple, that's
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every single interracial black white couple, and you had every
single white person that was in those interracial couples to
go out and say, I'm a wharf of this ship.
I'm gonna I'm gonna ride against this racist ship just
like I would if like a black person would, like
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a black spouse would, they could effectively stop that ship
like overnight, because it's a lot of them, it's a
lot of inter racial couples. I'm talking about millions in
this country, you know, like at the minimum, a few
hundred thousands they could really just single handedly because white
people have more power to to to put a den
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in racism than black people do because because they they
are the primary uh people that that that that exercise
it practices of racism. They are interesting. But but if
but but but imagine if all white people that was
in in interracial relationships with black people would would have
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that same energy that black people have when something bad
happens to black people. Imagine if they had that same energy,
not not the ones that do, all of them, because
it's something, it's something that like a mother, I said,
all of them, not imagine all of them. Imagine if
all of them had it had that same energy, that ship,
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that ship would be like that, it would be I'm
not saying it would be gone, but they put a
major dent into it. But they're not doing anything. And
to me, I feel like I feel like when you
when you when you get into a relationship with a person,
that person should whatever attributes that that person should have
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have in a relationship, you should have access to those attributes.
For example, people have people get into relationships and based
on uh, this person has access to cars, he owns
a dealership. It wouldn't make a lot of sense for
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a woman to be married to a guy who owns
a car dealership and she's riding the bus. You see so,
And in my opinion, it wouldn't make a lot of
sense for a black person to be in a relationship
with a white person if they're not actively out there
fighting to destroy racism. You see what I'm saying. If
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they're not actively just not being racist, it's not enough.
Just minding your own business, and not just minding your
own business, and not not uh participating uh in practicing
the word the N word, and and and doing and
doing and doing things too to interfere with black progress.
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That's not enough. You have to we got to have
all hands on deck. And if you truly are with us,
you should be as passionate about destroying this ship as
we are. Hm, you should be is passionate about dismantling
this ship as we are. So to me, that's like
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if I had a if I had a white woman
as a spouse, you better believe should be on the
front line. You better believe if she works, if she
has a job in corporate America, she being that making
sure that she squish as long as she qualified, can
get in and not be denied because of her name?
Do you think that our U and the racial um
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couples in power carry that same energy? Does Clarence Thomas
carry that same energy? What? Same energy? The same energy?
Like he does? Does he want? Is he expecting his
spouse to come out on the front line? Hell? Now?
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What about Vice president? Hell? Hell now? What if I
say about the Um the Supreme Court justice and her husband.
Let me put it like this, what have you seen them? Do?
Have you heard about them? Like like leading, you're just
saying what? Those are people in position? Really, those are
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people in position that can change a whole lot of
ship if they just said something. So do you get
empower and shut the up? Or do you get empower
and make some fucking noise? That's the question. I think.
You get in power and do what you've always done,
whatever you've always done, that's what you do when you
get in power. You ain't never done ship, then you
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ain't ship. You know, if you've if you've been part
of the go along, get along, When you just get
enough for you and like make sure you and you're straight,
then that's what you're gonna do when you get power.
If you're a giver. If you're a generous person when
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you don't have power, you're gonna be a more generous
person when you have power. That power is just going
to magnify who you are. M hmm, that's hiven it is. Um.
I want to say rest in peace to gangster. But
you know we lost gangs, oh man, man sweet, such
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a very good soul, very good soul. Man. We are
losing a lot of our um heroes, willie a lot
of our well our appears for us, but losing a
lot of heroes too. Man. I was sitting back and
I was listening to I was listening to music. I
was listening to UM, you know, Bob Marley. I was
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listening to Earth When and Fire. I was listening to
UM Marvin Gaye, and I was like, damn, what the
fun happened to our music? Man? Like what happened to
our music? Um? And then I was listening to you know,
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some some um, some alternative and rock and roll ship
that's coming out, and I'm like, man, that even more
so lets me know that that conspiracy to destroy black
music is real. The cousin bro. I remember growing up,
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everybody played instruments and you know, funked around and was brilliant.
And did you know we we we we were different, man.
You knew the difference between me and you when we wrapped.
We knew the distance, the difference between cube and l
L when they rapped. But now the ship just sounds
like one long ass song, right, and every uh not
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every but some of those R and B songs, you know,
they not. It's not like it was Willie. It's a
um it's a kid man um that I was listening
to the other day and he had a fucking song
that was absolutely amazing. Um, trying to think in the
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name of it, give me a second. It's called um
rain uh oh God Rain Harvest in Lake the name
of the song, right, And I was listening to that ship,
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and I thought that that was brilliant, man. And then
you turn around and listen to some ship that don't
make no fucking sense, and like, how does this ship
getting so much exposure and this ship is not how
much blame does the fan get though? Yeah, I think
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that in order for you to have a whack back,
but you got to have a whack fan. That's not true, Like, well, Kate,
prove it proven prove you wrong, because it's like, as
long as you got junk food out there for motherfucker
to eat, then they're gonna always eat junk food. And
whose fat is that? The person that's supplying the junk food.
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So so the person that eats the junk food has it?
What else you gonna eat? If I always out there
is junk food, what else you gonna eat? Stop? You
know what? You know what? You're right, But goddamn you
caught mouth guard with that one. That was a good one,
that was a good one. You couldn't You didn't leave
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it open. And for me, man, you don't know. That's
all that's I didn't even open. That's all. It's good, bro,
that's all that's out there, you know. And I remember,
I remember that. I remember, hold on, Willie. I remember
when it was all dope ship and you had one
and two or three kid flashes, you know, Nash all
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kid flashes and and and noting and and and you
know one of two dope ship's coming out here and there.
You know it flipped bad though, But I know it's
I know it's not by accident. That's it is by design, bro,
ship is by designed, Willie it's by design, because I
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think the more that you suck their heads up and
get them and get them off, they square with what
they know how to do. You know. It brought me
to this too. I was listening to a kid and
I don't know where he was, where he was from,
but he was talking about it's a talking about, oh man,
something to the thing where he don't want to behind
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mighty and fall down on his face. Uh he thank
God for the he thank you for for the sunshine,
thank you for rain, thank you for joy, thank you
for pain. It's a beautiful day. And I thought about it.
I'm like, man, these kids ain't got shipped out their way,
are you know? They're struggling out here where whatever country
they were in, man, whatever country, whatever school they were in,
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you just heard it. And you heard talent. You heard
raw talent, Willie, you heard talent. No no studio, no
auto pitch, no none of that ship. Just a beautiful
voice that came from one of these countries, and a
beautiful voice that came from one of these countries. And
you don't get to hear it besides on the internet.
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You know, they're not making albums with with with with
these Uh, kids with these beautiful voices no more. They
rather have a motherfucker that don't speak correct grammar and
and and sing about stupid ship, a rap about stupid ship,
rather than than showcasing our God given talents. Man, So
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are you saying that ACoM was right in saying that
African artists are better than us black artist? I'm gonna
say that African artists are getting there there, getting their
artistry out there. I can't say that. Well, he said
that there were better performance. Do you think that better performance?
I mean, I have not seen them, but I know
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that if we tapped back into our African heritage and
and and we'll get some more African American people running
these putting putting these records out instead of running behind whatever. Uh.
That guy says, like, how the funk do You ain't
even never been to my motherfucking neighborhood. You don't even
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know where the funk I'm from, But you're gonna dictate
what's hot here? How how are you gonna dictate what's
hot here? Motherfucker? And you ain't never even drove through here.
You're sitting up on the sixty second floor looking at it.
But you ain't never been there, but this is what
you want us to listen to. So how do you
get rid of that guy? How do you get rid
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of it? Start your own ship, Start your own ship,
go bet go man, Like it's just so fucked up,
and we constantly feed the wolf. We're constantly feeding that
machine and they're constantly accept bro. I told you about
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the song that I posted right uh then turning up
for a long time, all right, and uh God called
me like I ain't talked to him at least three
for five months. Man, who is that guy? You should
sign it? What the fuck? Just just there, just there?
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You see you see a black kid, you know, making
a joke, singing this hard out gold teeth uh shirt off,
you know, fitting the description of what you think, what
you think that we should look like to everybody else,
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you know, and you want that's what you want when
you get when you get a kid like uh uh
uh Simba Marcus Clay, you know, our fucking uh fresh dope.
Like somebody's really talking some ship. You know we can't
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hear from them, but you want me to see. You
want us to see, You want us to see the
dumb ship. You know you want to you want. You
want the entertainment for us to be on some other ship,
but the entertainment for you is is um spectacular. M h.
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I was listening excuse me, I was listening to some
country music because I love music, you know, I'm music
musics first soun Okay, so I love it. I listened
to it all the time, and I picture from it.
And you can just compare the music to yesterday to
the music today, you know, and you'll be like, wow,
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we'll never have another R. Kelly again. When when where
do you think the switch started or when do you
think the switch started? I think the switch started when
we started mass producing rap music. I think the switch
started when music was being mass produced and and and
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you know, um, the more the more mass the more
of a mass production that came out on this music.
That the more money and made well and true enough,
but the quality of it went down. You know, I
could buy an Ice Cube album tomorrow and I hear
from Ice Cub for the next two years, you know,
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because I know he's making some ship that that that's
gonna that's gonna dictate you know where hip hop is going.
Dre same thing. I know it's gonna take some years
for Trey to come out, but I know when I
hear it, it's gonna be looking amazing, you know, jay
z Nas, you know it's gonna be for Wow. Like
I want to hear Wow. I don't want to hear
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no ship that you keep coming and keep dropping ship
for motherfucker's to buy and you water down the product. Man.
I remember we used to buy records. We used to
buy records by the label. It went wrong. Do you
remember that? You know, if we've seen we used to
but we used to buy a records judgment judging by
the album cover, what was the album cover of the album?
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I mean, that's a cold as album cover right there, Man,
I know that ship Jamen. Now it's just a picture
of the motherfucker like it. Ain't even know album covers
no more. There's no creativity and there no thought behind it.
You just make an album and you put it up
on a on a streaming platform and hope that somebody
listened to it. You know, like artists should pull their
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shipped down. They should pull all of their music down
from this ship and collapse them like they collapse the
mom and pop store. Did you pull your music down.
I want to pull it down where you gotta start
it started off. You got enough pull my ship down,
take all my ship off, because if you can listen
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to my ship for under a penny, why would I
even want to make music? Bro? And I did million
them the fifty million streams this year. I did them
the fifty million streams this year. But imagine if if
you heard my song that many fucking times and you
had to pay me your dollar every time you heard it,
you fucking me man all the money anyway. And then
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I still see some fucking sixty year old dudes trying
to wrap the funk out of here. Bro, Well, I
don't think it's nothing wrong with a sixty year old
dude rapping, but not starting rapping, starting to wrap. I'm saying,
got a name yet? You know you don't have No,
you don't have a name. You just hey man, I'm
going to studio, still at it. But how do you
take his dream away? Though, if that's what he want
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to do, because they have to be I have to
be authentic with everybody I come in contact with or
I'd be failing my community. Bro, your ship not jamming,
and you can't wrap. And you should have did that
ship when we started way back in the eighties. Man,
I heard a dude on the internet yesterday. He had
I think they said he was sixty five. Since he's
six and dog, how can you tell him not to
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rap when he jamming? I'm sure jamming. He was jamming. Bro.
My question to you is, how are we gonna sell it?
Can't You're just doing it for a hobby. You know
you're doing this ship for a hobby. Yeah, I did
this ship for business, Willie. And when the ship turned in?
When when the ship turned from fund to a business
and now it's turning back into not getting nothing there
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not have no fund, no business fun this ship, man,
And ain't no money in it. It's no money in it, Willie.
There's no money, So why do it? You know we
spent we spent a lot of money to make an
album and then of money for you know, the majors
did a major disservice to the people when they started
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promoting one record, Like they started looking for one record
and trying to pay off the artists two get that
one record. They wouldn't even they wasn't even signing deals
with artists anymore. They just started just pat buying that
one record. You're doing a single deal, giving you a
single deal, dude. That that I do believe that. It
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was a number of things though. You had that. You
had that. You have, you have the labels making single deals.
You had the advent of the internet, and you had bootlegging.
You had, I mean, you had you had mix tapes.
There's always been blog but I'm talking about mix tapes.
You have the mix tapes were people were giving that
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stuff away for free, giving up the whole albums, going
to studio making whole albums and giving them away for free.
People started doing that, bro. It was so it was
so it was It was not just one thing. It
was a series of events. There was a series of events.
But that was the most notable and noticeable to me.
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When the ship when you when you when you had
a album coming out every four days, you know somebody
you know, uh, one label would have an album coming
out every four days, and then another label would start
copying that, and then another label will start copying that,
and then the ship just went. It just went bananas
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haywired from there, like you just there was just so
much ship to buy, you know, until you didn't know
what to buy, so you you bought it all, made
a ship ton of money with it. But it turned
our It turned our craft into a joke. You know,
something that we held so dearly to our hearts and
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to our um ability to create man, and it's just
fucking trash now, man, it's fucking trash man. This episode
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