August 25, 2025 • 43 mins
Roz is gaga for the return of comedian, actor, and writer, Debra DiGiovanni! Shutters slap shut and candles flicker as the two discuss the reincarnation of the Pollock sisters, mysterious Cold War carnage at Dyatlov Pass, and The Mary Celeste—a real life ghost ship!!
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
What's that at the bed. It's spooky, he juky. I'm
really sure it's dead. It's coming this way. Wait a minute, help,
I'm ghosted as Nandas.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Please Hey boo, it's me Roz and welcome to Ghosted
by Roz Hernandez.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
The podcast where I talk to people that I like
about the paranormal. Debrah Digovanni is on this week. She's back.
I'm obsessed. She's so funny. If you ever have the
chance to see her do stand up, you must go
back listen to the last time she was on too.
(00:59):
We talk about mysteries unsolved mysteries today on the pod,
and I just love it. It's so fun Hey, let
me read you a story. This is from one of
you people, a listener story that was sent to my email.
This one comes from Angelina, who writes, I was like
(01:21):
thirteen years old living in East Los Angeles in a
one bedroom apartment with my mom and at the time
three younger siblings. The apartment was built in the nineteen twenties.
We lived upstairs and the stairs were right next to
our door, followed by a long, squeaky hallway. I was
(01:42):
home with my siblings when someone started knocking on the door,
so I go to answer it and no one's there.
I close the door and go back to what I
was doing. Fifteen minutes later, someone starts knocking again, so
I go to answer it. No one is there once again,
and I go back to what I was doing. About
(02:04):
five minutes pass and then there is a loud banging
on the door. I run to the door and no
one is there. Now I'm mad, so I stand there
next to the door, thinking that it's one of the
neighborhood kids messing with me, so I'm going to catch
them right away. The banging starts. I quickly swing the
(02:27):
door open, step out, look down the stairs and hallway
and realize if someone was going to run down the
stairs or hallway, I would have heard them. So I
closed the door and started ignoring the knocks because I
knew it was no one or nothing I wanted to
mess with. Yeah, that's scary, Angelina, And that was a ghost.
(02:49):
I'm gonna call it. That's me with my gavel. That's
a ghost. Thanks for sending that. Hey, people, send me
your ghost story. You know, I love it. You know,
like this nice, nice and written out, not too long,
not too short, beginning, middle end. Send it to ghosted
(03:09):
by Roz at gmail dot com. Go see me live,
Roz Fernandez tour dot com is where you can find
any of those dates coming up. And uh, let's go.
Let's go. Listen to me talking to Deborah. Here's my
conversation once again with Deborah d Giovanni and with the
(03:33):
show Wow, what do you know? I am joined once
again by the funniest human being in the world, Deborah
d Giovanni.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Hello, my second appearance.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Welcome back.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
I mean, yes, I love it so good to be
Are you sed to?
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Are you a Canadian resident? And can you marry me? I?
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Yes, all the things.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
I'm a Canadian, still a Canadian citizen, but we would
have to go like, I can't be a resident there
until I live there for three months. Again, let's go,
let's do it. I don't know whine here. Honestly, every
day I'm like Vancouver. Why British Columbia.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Let's just go seriously, Vans.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
It's like California except rainier. That's all.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
I want to go to Toronto, but I don't want to
deal with the cold.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Listen, this is the way from where you grow up.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Actually not far from Toronto in Michigan.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
See this is once you leave snow. I'm not sure
I can go back. I mean, this is I know
it's all calmed down. I'm not I don't think as
a human being, I could live through another winter of snow.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
I just do it, and I can't do It's unnecessary too,
that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Yeah, it's like, what's your deal?
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Yes, why are you staying there?
Speaker 1 (04:59):
What's your deal?
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Mother and nature?
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Get over yourself?
Speaker 3 (05:03):
By coastal listen.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
The best people are bisexual people, and the best people
are by postal people.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Listen.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
It's just by wins all the way, bipartisan. I don't
know what that means.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
I've met hot bisexual men in Vancouver.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
It is teeming with bisexual men.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Vancouver and Seattle. There's something going on over there there.
Get hot men with open minds and open hearts.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Absolutely and open to sandals.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
But we'll move on from there, Okay. I was trying
to think of what kind of episode this could be today,
and then I was like, you know, what I really
want to do is like unsolved mysteries. Let's just like
talk about unsolved mysteries. Yes, please, love, because I love
(05:58):
watching you I love the way you analyze the world,
and I love I don't know, I just want to
see you perturbed.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Well, i'm gonna I'm gonna tell you this, but this
is something. I'm telling this to you right now. It's
a bold statement, but I stand behind it. I am
one of those people that when we're watching a series
and we're watching a movie, I find the killer almost immediately.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Oh this is good.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
And I might waffle a bit during the season, okay,
but it's.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Always like I've naunted I almost I'm would say, I'm
like like like a high eighties percentage of successful murder captures.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Oh that's not bad. Well, let's see how you do
with this, all right, this one, I've got a couple
of them for you. This one's not this was not
super like a whole lot to solve here, but it's
just interesting. Okay. So this first one is like a reincarnation.
Are you into that?
Speaker 3 (07:01):
I hope for it. I really do. I'm not kidding.
Give me another chance.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Who do you think you were? Do you? Do you
ever think I feel like.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
I might be new, But I'm hoping that I have
a chance to do it again. Oh okay, I'm not
worried about what I was in the past. I would
like to worry about what I'm going to be in
the future. That's what I want.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Here's the thing. I don't want to come back if
the world is like on fire, like I think I'm good.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
No, no, you're right. I was.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
My brain thought I could go to any dimension. I'm
making it my own rules here.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Maybe I'm just.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Like well shore, I mean, who knows. That's the thing.
None of us know exactly it give me whatever. So
I found this twenty twenty four Reader's Digest article just
talking about different mysteries that have been reported over the years.
I was written by Lauren Kahn, and uh, okay, here's
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one about the Pollock sisters. It says, well, first, well,
twenty four percent of Americans believe in reincarnation. That's it.
Twenty four Okay. It says in nineteen fifty seven, two
little English sisters, Joanna Pollock, who was eleven and Jacqueline Pollock,
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who was six. Okay, it's going to get trigger warning,
they died, okay. Okay, so spoiler spoiler they died in
a car accident. Okay, So one year later their mother
gave birth to twins, Jillian and Jennifer. When the twins
were old enough to talk, they began identifying and requesting
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toys that belonged to their dead sisters, pointing out landmarks
only their dead sisters would have known, such as the
school they attended, and sometimes panicking when they would see
cars idling. They would say things like that car is
coming to get us. So apparently these old girls knew nothing,
(09:02):
Like they didn't know this stuff about their older sisters,
and they were like, where's our toys? Oh okay. So anyway,
after the twins turn five, then it kind of stopped. Oh,
the girls went on to lead normal lives.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
I have to say, I believe this and I like it,
Like I see this. This doesn't like that's honestly, that
doesn't seem too far fetched to me. It really doesn't.
Because we know scientifically that energy cannot be created nor destroyed,
so it's got to go somewhere. So if it was
like a you know, a tragic death, that would maybe
say that, like you know, it would tell us and
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all of our research of watching TV and movies, it
would tell us that the energy jumped into you know,
unfinished business.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Kind of vibes you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Right, that makes sense stick around and the j names
that can't help, Jeremy, that can't help.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
That adds to the conjuring, you.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Know what I mean. That pushes it a little bit.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
You're just asking for it.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
But I see that doesn't feel park bench to me.
I see that. I go, yeah, okay.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
And then maybe at private stops, because that's when that's
when we close off as humans, maybe.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
You know, yeah, But it's like the little girls die,
and then their spirits are just kind of like what
do we do? They're just like and then like the
mom gets pregnant, and then.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
They're like, now's our chance, this is it.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
All right, let's let's go back in there.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Let's go for it. Let's give it another shot.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Pop back in the oven.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
I want to know how the two said the two
sisters did though, Like did they live long lines?
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Yeah? Apparently they live normal lives. And there was a
man named doctor Ian Stevenson who was a psychologist who
studied reincarnation, and he did study the Pollock sisters, Oh love,
he did. He studied thousands of supposed cases, okay, and
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he wrote a book telling a fourteen of these cases
that he believed to be real, and one of them
was the Pollock sisters.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Oh my gosh, so Jennifer Pollack, who, by the way,
is known today as Jennifer Lopez.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Everybody can that's not true. That is an untrue fact.
Everyone do not see us.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Jenny found the Black Okay, No, here's one. This is
completely different one. Now, this one I've heard about for
years and it has always kind of creeped me out.
It's a ship called the Mary Celeste. Okay, so this
is back eighteen seventy two, December fourth, Another British thing.
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It's a British ship. It was called the Mary Celeste.
They find this thing empty and just floating around the Atlantic.
It was found to be seaworthy and with its cargo
fully intact, except for a lifeboat, which it appeared had
been boarded in an orderly fashion. But why we may
(12:10):
never know, because no one on board was ever heard
from again.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
So no, so like there was no damage to the craft.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
It was like they didn't have to like they didn't
have to abandon shit because the boat was going down
or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Wow, this is the mystery.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
So it was supposed to set sail from New York
to Genoa, Italy. Captain Benjamin Briggs was the captain. He
had seven crew members, including his wife and his two
year old daughter. Okay, I don't think they were part
of the crew, but they were also there.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Okay. Can we admit that boat is the spookiest form
of travel?
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Mmm?
Speaker 1 (12:54):
I mean seriously, I mean flying is terrified.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Flying, flying as terrific, But there's something about like, I
guess the sky is the same, but there's I guess
I have a little bit of that fear of just
like open.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Water, it's always terrifying.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
It's it's terrifying.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
There's something I mean, although, let's be on the sky
is no better because my brain is like, can imagine
falling out of a plane wouldn't be great either, But
I mean.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Get to the ocean, you know. Yeah, there's a lot
that's waiting to get you.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Here's the thing. I always feel like, if I fell
off a cruise ship, I believe that a dolphin would
would would save you.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Yeah, I believe it too.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
I just yeah, I feel really confident about my relationship
with with the water because I don't eat I don't
eat fish, and oh this is it.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Okay, So they're gonnad. Yes, they will protect you.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
I think everyone will will come out and help me.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Listen to me, and I gotta tell you, don't even
get me started. I'm gonna cram shrimp in. They're not
gonna help me. You should see me. All you can
eat with shrimp there. They're they're they're coming to get me.
They're waiting for me to be honest.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Oh no, you fall in and you just like have
a little thing of cocktail sauce. So you're just going down.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
A horse radish on me at all times. All right, Okay,
spooky those spooky.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Okay, So here's here's some of the details about why
this is. It gets spookier. So they had enough supplies
on the ship for six months. They had all kinds
of shit on there, including a sewing machine and an
upright piano. Commenters generally agree that to precipitate the abandonment
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of a seaworthy ship, some extraordinary and alarming circumstances must
have arisen. However, the last entry on the ship's daily
log reveals nothing unusual, and inside the ship everything appeared
to be an order. Theories over the years have included mutiny,
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pirate attack, and an assault by a giant octopus or
sea monster. In recent years, scientists have posed the theory
that fumes from alcohol that they were carrying may have
caused an explosion. Oh and as a result of a
scientific anomaly, it didn't leave behind any signs of burning. Okay,
(15:24):
I don't know about that.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
You know, mutiny seems like something that could mutine or
pirates could happen too, because that could all happen, especially
if there was a lifeboat engaged.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Right, But they never found the people ever, they.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Never found the people. Well, and that's going to be
pirates then for sure.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
It seems like they didn't steal a bunch of shit.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
So it's like they just wanted to kill these people.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
It's just ghosts.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
It's just ghosts that a giant sea monster or a
giant sea monster.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Are you visualizing it? The big octopus just taking around
of course?
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Why that?
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Or aliens or aliens, Yes.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
I feel like it's either.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Yeah, aliens could be because that would just be quick
efficient and you know what I mean, it happened in
a second.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Even know what's happened. That's just wiping everybody out.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
People love to say that there's aliens in the ocean.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
In the ocean, Yeah, dude, I don't need that information.
I just don't. I believe it.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
I believe it too, because let's what do they say.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Isn't it like there's a percentage of the ocean that
will just never ever see or know.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
We have no clue what's going on out there. Okay,
here's let me tell Let me tell you a few
things about that. One, people will take videos and post
and whatever of like lights underneath the water that they
see moving around. They don't know what the hell that is. Yeah,
very scary, that's one thing.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Yeah, yeah, and all the creatures down there, let's be honest.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
They say that octopuses are the closest to like alien
life form that we have because they age colors, they
remember everything, they can fit into like a keyhole.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Yes, I was going to say, what is that called?
When they can do that? That's like they have you know,
the vertebrates like absolutely just you know, so malleable.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
But also to they can like if I'm not mistaken,
when they when they panic, not panic like a form
of a protection is they can drop a leg, like
they can release a limb one of their legs and
it doesn't grow back. Yes, apparently, like as when prey
comes by to freak the prey out, they'll just drop
one of their legs, like one of their legs, boom,
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what the fuck?
Speaker 1 (17:37):
And then they're out of there.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
And that's the thing with antopus too, because they're very
apparently very smart, might be one of the smartest creatures
on the planet.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
They're aliens. Yeah, and they don't have they don't have bones, Like,
oh god, I'm creeped out.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
You know.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
One time, one time I hooks up with a contortionist
and I feel like that was the closest and.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
That's the closest you should get, to be honest, Can
we be honest? That's all that's You don't need more
than four limbs around you.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
That person, that person that was like sleeping with the octopus.
I'm telling you right now, like there were limbs in
every direction. It was wild.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Okay, anyway, next one, this is called the incident at
Diet Love path. Okay, is how you say d yat
l O V diet love?
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Is it British? Everything spooky happens in the UK. No.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
This one is in the area that is now Russia. Okay,
and this one similarly is it's kind of like the
Mary Celeste, but in the snow. So February nineteen fifty nine,
nine ski hikers mysteriously in the mountains of what is
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now Russia. The night of the incident, the group had
set up camp on a slope. They were enjoying dinner,
and they prepared for sleep, but something went catastrophically wrong,
because the group never returned. On February twenty six, searchers
found the hiker's abandoned tent, which had been ripped open
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from the inside, surrounding the area where footprints left by
the group. Some of them were wearing socks, some wearing
a single shoe, some barefoot, all of which continued to
the edge of a nearby wood. That's where the first
two bodies were found, shoeless and only wearing underwear. The
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scene bore marks of death by hypothermia, but as medical
examiners inventoried their bodies, as well as the the other
seven that were discovered over the months that followed, hypothermia
no longer made sense. In fact, the evidence made no
sense at all. One body had evidence of blunt force
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trauma consistent with a brutal assault, another had third degree burns,
one had been vomiting blood. One this is the scariest one.
One was missing a tongue, and some of their clothing
was found to be radio active.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Theories floated around, including KGB interference, drug overdose, UFO, gravity anomalies,
and the Russian version of the yetti. Recently, a documentary
filmmaker presented a theory involving a terrifying but real phenomenon
called infrasound, in which the wind interacts with the topography
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to created a barely audible hum that can nevertheless induce
powerful feelings of nausea, panic, dread, chills, nervousness, race, heartbeat,
and difficulty breathing.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
I don't know this one. I mean, why was everything radioactive?
I could see they did some crazy shrooms or something
they did they tried drugs for the first time and
they got crazy, But I wouldn't explain the radioactive. I
don't know what. Do you think you're the solver, you're
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the detective.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
Seems to me like I've already seen a movie about
it or a documentary about it.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
But I feel like the minute he said about the
high pitched noise or the hum.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
That's where my brain went that there was something that
drove them to mania and then they turned on each
other like that, Sir, cap'n fever kind of vibes interesting
because all the different ways of them dying someone's I mean, well.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
And I'm trying to get out from the inside or
whatever of the tent.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
That's what it feels like to me, or again, aliens
or something again because it just and also too, because
this is the thing that I really remember about this
is the This was in Russia, right like in yeah,
in that area in February. Think of the thing that
would have made them run barefoot naked. Do you mean
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it must have been pretty scary. It was a yady
I mean, yikes, not starting to put your boot on,
you're it's yeah, it's terrifying.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Oh my god. I remember going in like hot tubs
in the snow and like having to run from the
hot tub to the inside. That's the scary, the worst listen.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
I mean, it's not murdered by a creature, but it's
also terrified.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
I would say it's just as bad as having your
tongue ripped out in the middle of nowhere we understand
is what we're saying. I have one other one. This
isn't really a mystery, but I just feel like we
needed to talk about this one because it just, you know,
things come across my desk and I'm like, let's just
let's see what this one's all about. Okay, okay. So
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this is a demonic possession or some type of spirit possession,
the possession of Antoine Gay. To your face already, I
love to gasp, oh nix Antoine Gay. So this was
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posted by a website called Nightwalks dot co dot uk.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Love it.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Antoine Gay was born May thirty first, seventeen ninety. He
was a Frenchman who many people have believed was possessed
by a demon named Issacharin.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Okay, sounds like a sugar substitute.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
As I was born in Lantenay and he was the
child of a public notary. He served in the First
Empire's military and settled in Lion, working as a carpenter.
Like Jesus what, Antoine yearned to be a monk even
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in his young days, and at age forty six, he
applied to enter the abbey. Oh now this ain't the
first time I heard of a going to an Arab
to the abbey, the abbey of Latra. So I apologize
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to the French people. I can't I cannot say this
with my mouth. But they did accept him as a
lay brother. But then he left the monastery due to
a nervous illness, which many people say was demonic possession.
According to a letter that Friar Burnod sent to the
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Bishop of Grennable, these words are hard for me. I
can't read good. This is what the Friar said. We
have examined Master Gay of Lions three times, each session
lasting from one to two hours. We consider it probable
that this man is possessed by the devil. He talked
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about various bits of evidence, including Gay revealing several secret
things which he had no means of knowing, and a
sudden ability to understand Latin though he'd never studied the language.
Doctor Pictet, a physician, said that Antoine had perfect health
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of body mind, but was under the influence of some
occult power which we are naturally unable to detect by
medical means, and we remain convinced that his extraordinary state
can only be attributed to possession. A doctor is not
supposed to say that. As evidence of this, he said,
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there was quote the fact that during our first interview
with Master Gay, that extraordinary thing which speaks through his
mouth revealed the inmost secrets of our heart. It told
us the story of our life from the age of
twelve onwards, giving details that are known only to God,
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our Confessor, and ourselves. But I guess they never did
an exorcism. He was readmitted to the abbey. They let
him back in.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
It just connected why the gay club in la is
called the abbey.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Now I get it, Now, you get it.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Religious thing?
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Oh, I get it, now I know that. But yeah,
I know I realized that at one point too.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Well.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Then the place next to is called the chapel. I see,
get the archestracture, architecture is very Master Gay.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
This one reeks of like sort of a witch hunt vibe,
a gentleman like the demon possession.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
I feel like it.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
It's a tendency to be like either you know that's
how they like trade the gay away, or.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
You know, like even women. Of course, this wasn't even
like that was what the seventeen hundreds.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
This is like the nineteen hundreds they used to call
women hysterical, right, and all they needed to do was masturbate.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
So this dude wants to be a monk. Maybe he
just needed to rubb one out. And I'm talking about
that's how you get the demons out. Get the demons,
that's how you do it.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
That's an interesting thought, like maybe he just had the
the queer skill of reading people.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
And then guy, he's a demon.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Well, they're like, how did he know these things about
He's probably like, look at.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
You, queen.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
I bet when you were twelve years old, nobody wanted
to play with you on the playground, bitch. And then
it's right, and he's and they're like, how did he
know that? That's exactly exactly because reading is fundamental, exactly exact.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
I'm sorry that was That was a gay witch hunt,
is what that was. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
It says that he returned and they tried to get
him readmitted to the abbey. Okay, Yeah, they asked the
abbot to carry out an exorcism. The abbot refused because
he was in the diocese of Vilence. Yeah, and Antoine
was in a different diocese. So it was like, sorry,
(28:45):
you're not in my in my very jets and yeah,
shot jet jet, but he stayed in Lions for a
few more years, where at one point he was arrested
as a lunatic and in prison for three months. But
a friar who started a community that cared for those
of unsound mine named Marie Joseph Chiron, she took Antoine
(29:13):
Gay under his wing. So Marie Joseph is a man,
and Jake.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Oh, bless the house of Marie Joseph. Do you see
what I mean?
Speaker 4 (29:23):
This is.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
I know something sickening. My grandpa's middle name was Maria,
my Mexican grandpa. Isn't that interest I know? So she
he Marie Joseph believed that this was a possessed man.
It says one day the friar brought Antoine to the
home of a woman nicknamed Chiquette. She was possessed by
(29:48):
a demon as well, but a different one, and when
they met, the two demons start fighting each other. Now,
first of all, here's my thing. I'm not gonna I
can't believe that there's two people possessed by demons at
the same.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Time and in the same room. Come on, what are
the chances?
Speaker 1 (30:04):
So apparently they bring them together and the two are
just start fighting with each other.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Is this a rom com? Now? What's going on?
Speaker 1 (30:14):
This is the met This is the two demons reading
each other. I guess I.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Feel like a lot of like demon stuff in the
olden days.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Oh, it was not demons.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
He used to blame a lot on demons, A lot
was on de.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Everything was everything fun was a demon back in the day.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Yes, if you had red hair, you were a demon.
You know what I mean, Like, that's just what it was.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Yes, exactly, gay people, anybody that had ideas that were.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
I mean, anyone that has a nice time, that has
a good time, likes a glass of wine and Friday.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Night demon demon. So anyway, that's the possession of Master Gay.
He was never he was never exercised.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Okay, So anyway, can I show you a haunted eBay doll? Yes, okay,
it's time for the dolls are living? Okay. So I
like to go to eBay and look up haunted dolls,
and every week we feature a different haunted doll.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
There's so many, but there's so.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Many, and they come with, you know, all kinds of backstories.
This one here is Savannah and she's going for eighty
nine to ninety nine.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Oh, God, she's kind of.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
She's creepy because she's a doll, but she's also glamorous.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Someone made that dress like that's you know, that's not
like a little that dress of time.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
The dress is not fitted perfectly, I don't think in
the shoulders.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Yeah, yeah, we could use some tailoring in the upper body,
but we'll move on.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, she's kind of Julia Fox little bit.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
So here's the thing about her. She was a porn
star in the seventies.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Fabulous.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Now, this is the you know, the spirit that is
inside of this doll. Okay. So apparently a porn star
from the seventies died and found this doll somewhere and
hopped in there.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
It says this doll was acquired at a thrift store.
It was donated by a gentleman whose wife was a
medium and she was an avid doll collector and she
recently passed away and the dolls were a painful reminder
of the woman. So this man he donated them all
to a thrift store, with the porn star doll ghost
(32:45):
being inside of this. The person that is selling this
on ebays says that they used a Ouiji board and
identified this doll as being Savannah is her name, okay,
she spelled the word porno and love. They did an
(33:05):
intuitive free writing session, so they sort of just, I
don't know, start scribbling and then they get words as
they're channeling the spirit. And it tells the story of
a twenty year old runaway from southern Georgia. Hitchhiked her
way across the US, and she made her way to
(33:26):
San Francisco. In the spring of nineteen seventy three, she
met a film producer who took her in quickly. He
convinced her that she should be in his adult film
because she had the oldest time girl next door look
and that he would take her to the top of stardom.
She was tall and slender with long dark hair. She
(33:48):
had round, firm, sea cup breasts with slightly pointy, peachy
pink areolas. Why is this in here?
Speaker 3 (33:57):
I don't it's a man wrote it. A straight man
wrote this.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Also, you needed to tell me you're doing a ouiji
board and it's like p I and okay a R.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
I don't even spell areo as nobody knows exactly.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
The producer gave her the stage name Peaches due to
her sweet Georgia accents, oh, and her other unique assets.
He told her that men would love her. She began filming.
She had never been to perude. She had never realized
(34:36):
how much she loved it. I guess she was great
at it. She died in natural causes. Now she's in
this doll. Oh, and here's some of the things that
she will do. The dollar the woman, well, I think
the spirit that comes with the doll. This is what
you're going to experience if you buy her for eighty
nine ninety nine. She's looking for someone that's going to
(34:57):
help her explore her sexual side. She has the power
to enter your dreams. She enjoys adult, private conversation as
well as petting and kisses. She wants you to know
that she can feel your touch and she yearns for it.
She likes watching you pleasure yourself and often heightens your experiences.
(35:22):
She appears in vivid dreams, sometimes in short scenes, and
she's only for people over eighteen. Okay, well, well there
she is, her peachy pink areola.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
I can't believe she's still on the market, to be honest,
eighty nine ninety nine. That's a steal.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Yeah, you're telling me like, come on right, yeah, there
she is. She isn't like her hunting doesn't sound that
scary to me, Like that's oh no, some of them
are fun.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
She sounds kind of nice. She really it sounds well.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
I just want her to tell me stories about being
a horn star and like the eighties and stuff like
that sounds so fun.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Oh my god, I can't even I just.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Don't want to have to do the Ouiji boy like
I wish there was don't make me spell it out
or yeah, the free writing or whatever?
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Is the audio?
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (36:15):
Is there an audio version of this?
Speaker 1 (36:17):
They're a way that we could just sit and chat
without me having to spell every word. Well, maybe she
can do she can use her voice. Like our next segment,
can I play you some EVP some ghost voices?
Speaker 3 (36:32):
Oh no, here we go, okay, ye give me it's time.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
For EVP or ev pase okay. So these are electronic
voice phenomena. These are people, you know, they record a
ghost speaking, They PLoP it up on YouTube. I snatch
it down, and then we try to guess what the
(36:57):
ghost is saying.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
Scar.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
I got two of them for you. This first one
is from Ashley Smith from the Jackson County, Georgia Paranormal
Investigation Team. What is this ghost saying.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
Over time? Your high smoker? Is that something?
Speaker 1 (37:28):
High smoker?
Speaker 3 (37:30):
High smoker?
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Oh, high smoker, hi smoker. Well that is not what
Ashley Smith from the Jackson County, Georgia Paranormal Investigation Team thought.
Did she think it was a I hope your ass
will move? B Oh, my eyes are sore. See I
(37:57):
won't be nice little girl. Or d I'm home and
I'm nasty too. Okay, it was one of those let
me play it again.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
Oh whatever said that little girl? Yes, yeah, she.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Believes it is I won't be nice, little girl.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
Okay, now that we know that, that's yeah, I hear
the little girl.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
I gotta hear it.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Yeah. So I now that you put that in me,
that that implant that word, and I hear that little girl. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Oh no, okay, here's one more. This is from a
YouTube channel called EVP Class ABC, and this person wrote
in the description, so when I started this session, I
had just taken a bath and I was doing a
few post bath things. I'm a chronic multitasker. In particular,
(39:00):
I used a bath and body words, body splash and
the batteries died on the recorder. When I listened to
what little recording had been done before the battery died,
this is what I heard. Okay, what is this voice saying?
Speaker 3 (39:23):
I hear morning, I'll get you in the morning.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
That's sam what they believe? Do they think it was
a Oh that is my favorite spray? B that bath
is a little gay. C that smells great? Or d
you took a bath but you still stank?
Speaker 3 (39:49):
Good? Play again. I'm gonna say the first one was
the first one.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Oh that is my favorite spray. Yeah, yeah, they think
it is See that smells great. Okay, wait I kind
of hear it, but so they're they're close. That smells
great because she put that bath and bodyworks body spread
(40:23):
Oh classic.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
You're not sponsored by body Words?
Speaker 1 (40:28):
Yeah, I am not. Demans love it, Hey, Deborah, that
was another episode.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
Yeah of spooky stuff.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
You did it?
Speaker 3 (40:38):
I love it? Do this always always. I love to
come on here, have a little hello and get scared.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
It's if every way to find you.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
People can find me on Instagram at Deputy G. I
am touring Canada during this summer.
Speaker 4 (40:53):
I think when this airs I will be in I've
bought some Colorado dates and then I'm gonna be heading
to Toronto, Winnipeg, Edmonton.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
So I'm heading to Canada in the fall. So come
to Canada or it's your Canadian come see me there.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Amazing, Well, thanks so much for doing this.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
Nothing, I'll see you soon.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Oh my gosh, that's mouth's great. Thank you so much
to Deborah di geobody. She kills me. I'm still thinking
about these mysteries. I don't know. Even if it was
something like ooh, some hum thing happened and then people
(41:37):
went crazy, that's scary, Okay, reminds me of what's that movie?
It's like that French movie from a couple of years
back where like all the people I think they did
like acid or something, they all went crazy whatever. But
either way, it's like a terrifying just everyone going insane.
I can't anyway. Thanks Deborah, and thank you for listen.
(42:00):
I love you all, both living and dud. But if
I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me
came back. This has been an exactly right production. Want
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(42:21):
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is the alarming Christina Chamberlain. This episode was mixed and
sound designed by the eerie Edson Joy. My guest booker
is the petrifying Patrick Kuttner. My theme music is by
the spine chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork by the spooky
(43:11):
Vanessa Lilac, Photography by the terrifying Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced
by the chilling Karen Kilgareff, the spooky Georgia hart Stark,
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get your podcasts.
What's that at the bed. It's spooky, he juky. I'm
really sure it's dead. It's coming this way. Wait a minute, help,
I'm ghosted as Nandas.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Please Hey boo, it's me Roz and welcome to Ghosted
by Roz Hernandez.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
The podcast where I talk to people that I like
about the paranormal. Debrah Digovanni is on this week. She's back.
I'm obsessed. She's so funny. If you ever have the
chance to see her do stand up, you must go
back listen to the last time she was on too.
(00:59):
We talk about mysteries unsolved mysteries today on the pod,
and I just love it. It's so fun Hey, let
me read you a story. This is from one of
you people, a listener story that was sent to my email.
This one comes from Angelina, who writes, I was like
(01:21):
thirteen years old living in East Los Angeles in a
one bedroom apartment with my mom and at the time
three younger siblings. The apartment was built in the nineteen twenties.
We lived upstairs and the stairs were right next to
our door, followed by a long, squeaky hallway. I was
(01:42):
home with my siblings when someone started knocking on the door,
so I go to answer it and no one's there.
I close the door and go back to what I
was doing. Fifteen minutes later, someone starts knocking again, so
I go to answer it. No one is there once again,
and I go back to what I was doing. About
(02:04):
five minutes pass and then there is a loud banging
on the door. I run to the door and no
one is there. Now I'm mad, so I stand there
next to the door, thinking that it's one of the
neighborhood kids messing with me, so I'm going to catch
them right away. The banging starts. I quickly swing the
(02:27):
door open, step out, look down the stairs and hallway
and realize if someone was going to run down the
stairs or hallway, I would have heard them. So I
closed the door and started ignoring the knocks because I
knew it was no one or nothing I wanted to
mess with. Yeah, that's scary, Angelina, And that was a ghost.
(02:49):
I'm gonna call it. That's me with my gavel. That's
a ghost. Thanks for sending that. Hey, people, send me
your ghost story. You know, I love it. You know,
like this nice, nice and written out, not too long,
not too short, beginning, middle end. Send it to ghosted
(03:09):
by Roz at gmail dot com. Go see me live,
Roz Fernandez tour dot com is where you can find
any of those dates coming up. And uh, let's go.
Let's go. Listen to me talking to Deborah. Here's my
conversation once again with Deborah d Giovanni and with the
(03:33):
show Wow, what do you know? I am joined once
again by the funniest human being in the world, Deborah
d Giovanni.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Hello, my second appearance.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Welcome back.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
I mean, yes, I love it so good to be
Are you sed to?
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Are you a Canadian resident? And can you marry me? I?
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Yes, all the things.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
I'm a Canadian, still a Canadian citizen, but we would
have to go like, I can't be a resident there
until I live there for three months. Again, let's go,
let's do it. I don't know whine here. Honestly, every
day I'm like Vancouver. Why British Columbia.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Let's just go seriously, Vans.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
It's like California except rainier. That's all.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
I want to go to Toronto, but I don't want to
deal with the cold.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Listen, this is the way from where you grow up.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Actually not far from Toronto in Michigan.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
See this is once you leave snow. I'm not sure
I can go back. I mean, this is I know
it's all calmed down. I'm not I don't think as
a human being, I could live through another winter of snow.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
I just do it, and I can't do It's unnecessary too,
that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Yeah, it's like, what's your deal?
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Yes, why are you staying there?
Speaker 1 (04:59):
What's your deal?
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Mother and nature?
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Get over yourself?
Speaker 3 (05:03):
By coastal listen.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
The best people are bisexual people, and the best people
are by postal people.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Listen.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
It's just by wins all the way, bipartisan. I don't
know what that means.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
I've met hot bisexual men in Vancouver.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
It is teeming with bisexual men.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Vancouver and Seattle. There's something going on over there there.
Get hot men with open minds and open hearts.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Absolutely and open to sandals.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
But we'll move on from there, Okay. I was trying
to think of what kind of episode this could be today,
and then I was like, you know, what I really
want to do is like unsolved mysteries. Let's just like
talk about unsolved mysteries. Yes, please, love, because I love
(05:58):
watching you I love the way you analyze the world,
and I love I don't know, I just want to
see you perturbed.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Well, i'm gonna I'm gonna tell you this, but this
is something. I'm telling this to you right now. It's
a bold statement, but I stand behind it. I am
one of those people that when we're watching a series
and we're watching a movie, I find the killer almost immediately.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Oh this is good.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
And I might waffle a bit during the season, okay,
but it's.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Always like I've naunted I almost I'm would say, I'm
like like like a high eighties percentage of successful murder captures.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Oh that's not bad. Well, let's see how you do
with this, all right, this one, I've got a couple
of them for you. This one's not this was not
super like a whole lot to solve here, but it's
just interesting. Okay. So this first one is like a reincarnation.
Are you into that?
Speaker 3 (07:01):
I hope for it. I really do. I'm not kidding.
Give me another chance.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Who do you think you were? Do you? Do you
ever think I feel like.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
I might be new, But I'm hoping that I have
a chance to do it again. Oh okay, I'm not
worried about what I was in the past. I would
like to worry about what I'm going to be in
the future. That's what I want.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Here's the thing. I don't want to come back if
the world is like on fire, like I think I'm good.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
No, no, you're right. I was.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
My brain thought I could go to any dimension. I'm
making it my own rules here.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Maybe I'm just.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Like well shore, I mean, who knows. That's the thing.
None of us know exactly it give me whatever. So
I found this twenty twenty four Reader's Digest article just
talking about different mysteries that have been reported over the years.
I was written by Lauren Kahn, and uh, okay, here's
(07:55):
one about the Pollock sisters. It says, well, first, well,
twenty four percent of Americans believe in reincarnation. That's it.
Twenty four Okay. It says in nineteen fifty seven, two
little English sisters, Joanna Pollock, who was eleven and Jacqueline Pollock,
(08:18):
who was six. Okay, it's going to get trigger warning,
they died, okay. Okay, so spoiler spoiler they died in
a car accident. Okay, So one year later their mother
gave birth to twins, Jillian and Jennifer. When the twins
were old enough to talk, they began identifying and requesting
(08:41):
toys that belonged to their dead sisters, pointing out landmarks
only their dead sisters would have known, such as the
school they attended, and sometimes panicking when they would see
cars idling. They would say things like that car is
coming to get us. So apparently these old girls knew nothing,
(09:02):
Like they didn't know this stuff about their older sisters,
and they were like, where's our toys? Oh okay. So anyway,
after the twins turn five, then it kind of stopped. Oh,
the girls went on to lead normal lives.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
I have to say, I believe this and I like it,
Like I see this. This doesn't like that's honestly, that
doesn't seem too far fetched to me. It really doesn't.
Because we know scientifically that energy cannot be created nor destroyed,
so it's got to go somewhere. So if it was
like a you know, a tragic death, that would maybe
say that, like you know, it would tell us and
(09:38):
all of our research of watching TV and movies, it
would tell us that the energy jumped into you know,
unfinished business.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Kind of vibes you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Right, that makes sense stick around and the j names
that can't help, Jeremy, that can't help.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
That adds to the conjuring, you.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Know what I mean. That pushes it a little bit.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
You're just asking for it.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
But I see that doesn't feel park bench to me.
I see that. I go, yeah, okay.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
And then maybe at private stops, because that's when that's
when we close off as humans, maybe.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
You know, yeah, But it's like the little girls die,
and then their spirits are just kind of like what
do we do? They're just like and then like the
mom gets pregnant, and then.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
They're like, now's our chance, this is it.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
All right, let's let's go back in there.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Let's go for it. Let's give it another shot.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Pop back in the oven.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
I want to know how the two said the two
sisters did though, Like did they live long lines?
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Yeah? Apparently they live normal lives. And there was a
man named doctor Ian Stevenson who was a psychologist who
studied reincarnation, and he did study the Pollock sisters, Oh love,
he did. He studied thousands of supposed cases, okay, and
(10:57):
he wrote a book telling a fourteen of these cases
that he believed to be real, and one of them
was the Pollock sisters.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Oh my gosh, so Jennifer Pollack, who, by the way,
is known today as Jennifer Lopez.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Everybody can that's not true. That is an untrue fact.
Everyone do not see us.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Jenny found the Black Okay, No, here's one. This is
completely different one. Now, this one I've heard about for
years and it has always kind of creeped me out.
It's a ship called the Mary Celeste. Okay, so this
is back eighteen seventy two, December fourth, Another British thing.
(11:45):
It's a British ship. It was called the Mary Celeste.
They find this thing empty and just floating around the Atlantic.
It was found to be seaworthy and with its cargo
fully intact, except for a lifeboat, which it appeared had
been boarded in an orderly fashion. But why we may
(12:10):
never know, because no one on board was ever heard
from again.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
So no, so like there was no damage to the craft.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
It was like they didn't have to like they didn't
have to abandon shit because the boat was going down
or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Wow, this is the mystery.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
So it was supposed to set sail from New York
to Genoa, Italy. Captain Benjamin Briggs was the captain. He
had seven crew members, including his wife and his two
year old daughter. Okay, I don't think they were part
of the crew, but they were also there.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Okay. Can we admit that boat is the spookiest form
of travel?
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Mmm?
Speaker 1 (12:54):
I mean seriously, I mean flying is terrified.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Flying, flying as terrific, But there's something about like, I
guess the sky is the same, but there's I guess
I have a little bit of that fear of just
like open.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Water, it's always terrifying.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
It's it's terrifying.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
There's something I mean, although, let's be on the sky
is no better because my brain is like, can imagine
falling out of a plane wouldn't be great either, But
I mean.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Get to the ocean, you know. Yeah, there's a lot
that's waiting to get you.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Here's the thing. I always feel like, if I fell
off a cruise ship, I believe that a dolphin would
would would save you.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Yeah, I believe it too.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
I just yeah, I feel really confident about my relationship
with with the water because I don't eat I don't
eat fish, and oh this is it.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Okay, So they're gonnad. Yes, they will protect you.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
I think everyone will will come out and help me.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Listen to me, and I gotta tell you, don't even
get me started. I'm gonna cram shrimp in. They're not
gonna help me. You should see me. All you can
eat with shrimp there. They're they're they're coming to get me.
They're waiting for me to be honest.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Oh no, you fall in and you just like have
a little thing of cocktail sauce. So you're just going down.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
A horse radish on me at all times. All right, Okay,
spooky those spooky.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Okay, So here's here's some of the details about why
this is. It gets spookier. So they had enough supplies
on the ship for six months. They had all kinds
of shit on there, including a sewing machine and an
upright piano. Commenters generally agree that to precipitate the abandonment
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of a seaworthy ship, some extraordinary and alarming circumstances must
have arisen. However, the last entry on the ship's daily
log reveals nothing unusual, and inside the ship everything appeared
to be an order. Theories over the years have included mutiny,
(15:00):
pirate attack, and an assault by a giant octopus or
sea monster. In recent years, scientists have posed the theory
that fumes from alcohol that they were carrying may have
caused an explosion. Oh and as a result of a
scientific anomaly, it didn't leave behind any signs of burning. Okay,
(15:24):
I don't know about that.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
You know, mutiny seems like something that could mutine or
pirates could happen too, because that could all happen, especially
if there was a lifeboat engaged.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Right, But they never found the people ever, they.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Never found the people. Well, and that's going to be
pirates then for sure.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
It seems like they didn't steal a bunch of shit.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
So it's like they just wanted to kill these people.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
It's just ghosts.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
It's just ghosts that a giant sea monster or a
giant sea monster.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Are you visualizing it? The big octopus just taking around
of course?
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Why that?
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Or aliens or aliens, Yes.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
I feel like it's either.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Yeah, aliens could be because that would just be quick
efficient and you know what I mean, it happened in
a second.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Even know what's happened. That's just wiping everybody out.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
People love to say that there's aliens in the ocean.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
In the ocean, Yeah, dude, I don't need that information.
I just don't. I believe it.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
I believe it too, because let's what do they say.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Isn't it like there's a percentage of the ocean that
will just never ever see or know.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
We have no clue what's going on out there. Okay,
here's let me tell Let me tell you a few
things about that. One, people will take videos and post
and whatever of like lights underneath the water that they
see moving around. They don't know what the hell that is. Yeah,
very scary, that's one thing.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Yeah, yeah, and all the creatures down there, let's be honest.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
They say that octopuses are the closest to like alien
life form that we have because they age colors, they
remember everything, they can fit into like a keyhole.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Yes, I was going to say, what is that called?
When they can do that? That's like they have you know,
the vertebrates like absolutely just you know, so malleable.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
But also to they can like if I'm not mistaken,
when they when they panic, not panic like a form
of a protection is they can drop a leg, like
they can release a limb one of their legs and
it doesn't grow back. Yes, apparently, like as when prey
comes by to freak the prey out, they'll just drop
one of their legs, like one of their legs, boom,
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what the fuck?
Speaker 1 (17:37):
And then they're out of there.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
And that's the thing with antopus too, because they're very
apparently very smart, might be one of the smartest creatures
on the planet.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
They're aliens. Yeah, and they don't have they don't have bones, Like,
oh god, I'm creeped out.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
You know.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
One time, one time I hooks up with a contortionist
and I feel like that was the closest and.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
That's the closest you should get, to be honest, Can
we be honest? That's all that's You don't need more
than four limbs around you.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
That person, that person that was like sleeping with the octopus.
I'm telling you right now, like there were limbs in
every direction. It was wild.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Okay, anyway, next one, this is called the incident at
Diet Love path. Okay, is how you say d yat
l O V diet love?
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Is it British? Everything spooky happens in the UK. No.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
This one is in the area that is now Russia. Okay,
and this one similarly is it's kind of like the
Mary Celeste, but in the snow. So February nineteen fifty nine,
nine ski hikers mysteriously in the mountains of what is
(19:01):
now Russia. The night of the incident, the group had
set up camp on a slope. They were enjoying dinner,
and they prepared for sleep, but something went catastrophically wrong,
because the group never returned. On February twenty six, searchers
found the hiker's abandoned tent, which had been ripped open
(19:25):
from the inside, surrounding the area where footprints left by
the group. Some of them were wearing socks, some wearing
a single shoe, some barefoot, all of which continued to
the edge of a nearby wood. That's where the first
two bodies were found, shoeless and only wearing underwear. The
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scene bore marks of death by hypothermia, but as medical
examiners inventoried their bodies, as well as the the other
seven that were discovered over the months that followed, hypothermia
no longer made sense. In fact, the evidence made no
sense at all. One body had evidence of blunt force
(20:12):
trauma consistent with a brutal assault, another had third degree burns,
one had been vomiting blood. One this is the scariest one.
One was missing a tongue, and some of their clothing
was found to be radio active.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Theories floated around, including KGB interference, drug overdose, UFO, gravity anomalies,
and the Russian version of the yetti. Recently, a documentary
filmmaker presented a theory involving a terrifying but real phenomenon
called infrasound, in which the wind interacts with the topography
(20:59):
to created a barely audible hum that can nevertheless induce
powerful feelings of nausea, panic, dread, chills, nervousness, race, heartbeat,
and difficulty breathing.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
I don't know this one. I mean, why was everything radioactive?
I could see they did some crazy shrooms or something
they did they tried drugs for the first time and
they got crazy, But I wouldn't explain the radioactive. I
don't know what. Do you think you're the solver, you're
(21:33):
the detective.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
Seems to me like I've already seen a movie about
it or a documentary about it.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
But I feel like the minute he said about the
high pitched noise or the hum.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
That's where my brain went that there was something that
drove them to mania and then they turned on each
other like that, Sir, cap'n fever kind of vibes interesting
because all the different ways of them dying someone's I mean, well.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
And I'm trying to get out from the inside or
whatever of the tent.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
That's what it feels like to me, or again, aliens
or something again because it just and also too, because
this is the thing that I really remember about this
is the This was in Russia, right like in yeah,
in that area in February. Think of the thing that
would have made them run barefoot naked. Do you mean
(22:28):
it must have been pretty scary. It was a yady
I mean, yikes, not starting to put your boot on,
you're it's yeah, it's terrifying.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Oh my god. I remember going in like hot tubs
in the snow and like having to run from the
hot tub to the inside. That's the scary, the worst listen.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
I mean, it's not murdered by a creature, but it's
also terrified.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
I would say it's just as bad as having your
tongue ripped out in the middle of nowhere we understand
is what we're saying. I have one other one. This
isn't really a mystery, but I just feel like we
needed to talk about this one because it just, you know,
things come across my desk and I'm like, let's just
let's see what this one's all about. Okay, okay. So
(23:16):
this is a demonic possession or some type of spirit possession,
the possession of Antoine Gay. To your face already, I
love to gasp, oh nix Antoine Gay. So this was
(23:36):
posted by a website called Nightwalks dot co dot uk.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Love it.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Antoine Gay was born May thirty first, seventeen ninety. He
was a Frenchman who many people have believed was possessed
by a demon named Issacharin.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Okay, sounds like a sugar substitute.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
As I was born in Lantenay and he was the
child of a public notary. He served in the First
Empire's military and settled in Lion, working as a carpenter.
Like Jesus what, Antoine yearned to be a monk even
(24:28):
in his young days, and at age forty six, he
applied to enter the abbey. Oh now this ain't the
first time I heard of a going to an Arab
to the abbey, the abbey of Latra. So I apologize
(24:49):
to the French people. I can't I cannot say this
with my mouth. But they did accept him as a
lay brother. But then he left the monastery due to
a nervous illness, which many people say was demonic possession.
According to a letter that Friar Burnod sent to the
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Bishop of Grennable, these words are hard for me. I
can't read good. This is what the Friar said. We
have examined Master Gay of Lions three times, each session
lasting from one to two hours. We consider it probable
that this man is possessed by the devil. He talked
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about various bits of evidence, including Gay revealing several secret
things which he had no means of knowing, and a
sudden ability to understand Latin though he'd never studied the language.
Doctor Pictet, a physician, said that Antoine had perfect health
(25:59):
of body mind, but was under the influence of some
occult power which we are naturally unable to detect by
medical means, and we remain convinced that his extraordinary state
can only be attributed to possession. A doctor is not
supposed to say that. As evidence of this, he said,
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there was quote the fact that during our first interview
with Master Gay, that extraordinary thing which speaks through his
mouth revealed the inmost secrets of our heart. It told
us the story of our life from the age of
twelve onwards, giving details that are known only to God,
(26:41):
our Confessor, and ourselves. But I guess they never did
an exorcism. He was readmitted to the abbey. They let
him back in.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
It just connected why the gay club in la is
called the abbey.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Now I get it, Now, you get it.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Religious thing?
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Oh, I get it, now I know that. But yeah,
I know I realized that at one point too.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Well.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Then the place next to is called the chapel. I see,
get the archestracture, architecture is very Master Gay.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
This one reeks of like sort of a witch hunt vibe,
a gentleman like the demon possession.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
I feel like it.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
It's a tendency to be like either you know that's
how they like trade the gay away, or.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
You know, like even women. Of course, this wasn't even
like that was what the seventeen hundreds.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
This is like the nineteen hundreds they used to call
women hysterical, right, and all they needed to do was masturbate.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
So this dude wants to be a monk. Maybe he
just needed to rubb one out. And I'm talking about
that's how you get the demons out. Get the demons,
that's how you do it.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
That's an interesting thought, like maybe he just had the
the queer skill of reading people.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
And then guy, he's a demon.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Well, they're like, how did he know these things about
He's probably like, look at.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
You, queen.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
I bet when you were twelve years old, nobody wanted
to play with you on the playground, bitch. And then
it's right, and he's and they're like, how did he
know that? That's exactly exactly because reading is fundamental, exactly exact.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
I'm sorry that was That was a gay witch hunt,
is what that was. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
It says that he returned and they tried to get
him readmitted to the abbey. Okay, Yeah, they asked the
abbot to carry out an exorcism. The abbot refused because
he was in the diocese of Vilence. Yeah, and Antoine
was in a different diocese. So it was like, sorry,
(28:45):
you're not in my in my very jets and yeah,
shot jet jet, but he stayed in Lions for a
few more years, where at one point he was arrested
as a lunatic and in prison for three months. But
a friar who started a community that cared for those
of unsound mine named Marie Joseph Chiron, she took Antoine
(29:13):
Gay under his wing. So Marie Joseph is a man,
and Jake.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Oh, bless the house of Marie Joseph. Do you see
what I mean?
Speaker 4 (29:23):
This is.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
I know something sickening. My grandpa's middle name was Maria,
my Mexican grandpa. Isn't that interest I know? So she
he Marie Joseph believed that this was a possessed man.
It says one day the friar brought Antoine to the
home of a woman nicknamed Chiquette. She was possessed by
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a demon as well, but a different one, and when
they met, the two demons start fighting each other. Now,
first of all, here's my thing. I'm not gonna I
can't believe that there's two people possessed by demons at
the same.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Time and in the same room. Come on, what are
the chances?
Speaker 1 (30:04):
So apparently they bring them together and the two are
just start fighting with each other.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Is this a rom com? Now? What's going on?
Speaker 1 (30:14):
This is the met This is the two demons reading
each other. I guess I.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Feel like a lot of like demon stuff in the
olden days.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Oh, it was not demons.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
He used to blame a lot on demons, A lot
was on de.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Everything was everything fun was a demon back in the day.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Yes, if you had red hair, you were a demon.
You know what I mean, Like, that's just what it was.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Yes, exactly, gay people, anybody that had ideas that were.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
I mean, anyone that has a nice time, that has
a good time, likes a glass of wine and Friday.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Night demon demon. So anyway, that's the possession of Master Gay.
He was never he was never exercised.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Okay, So anyway, can I show you a haunted eBay doll? Yes, okay,
it's time for the dolls are living? Okay. So I
like to go to eBay and look up haunted dolls,
and every week we feature a different haunted doll.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
There's so many, but there's so.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Many, and they come with, you know, all kinds of backstories.
This one here is Savannah and she's going for eighty
nine to ninety nine.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Oh, God, she's kind of.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
She's creepy because she's a doll, but she's also glamorous.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Someone made that dress like that's you know, that's not
like a little that dress of time.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
The dress is not fitted perfectly, I don't think in
the shoulders.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Yeah, yeah, we could use some tailoring in the upper body,
but we'll move on.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, she's kind of Julia Fox little bit.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
So here's the thing about her. She was a porn
star in the seventies.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Fabulous.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Now, this is the you know, the spirit that is
inside of this doll. Okay. So apparently a porn star
from the seventies died and found this doll somewhere and
hopped in there.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
It says this doll was acquired at a thrift store.
It was donated by a gentleman whose wife was a
medium and she was an avid doll collector and she
recently passed away and the dolls were a painful reminder
of the woman. So this man he donated them all
to a thrift store, with the porn star doll ghost
(32:45):
being inside of this. The person that is selling this
on ebays says that they used a Ouiji board and
identified this doll as being Savannah is her name, okay,
she spelled the word porno and love. They did an
(33:05):
intuitive free writing session, so they sort of just, I
don't know, start scribbling and then they get words as
they're channeling the spirit. And it tells the story of
a twenty year old runaway from southern Georgia. Hitchhiked her
way across the US, and she made her way to
(33:26):
San Francisco. In the spring of nineteen seventy three, she
met a film producer who took her in quickly. He
convinced her that she should be in his adult film
because she had the oldest time girl next door look
and that he would take her to the top of stardom.
She was tall and slender with long dark hair. She
(33:48):
had round, firm, sea cup breasts with slightly pointy, peachy
pink areolas. Why is this in here?
Speaker 3 (33:57):
I don't it's a man wrote it. A straight man
wrote this.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Also, you needed to tell me you're doing a ouiji
board and it's like p I and okay a R.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
I don't even spell areo as nobody knows exactly.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
The producer gave her the stage name Peaches due to
her sweet Georgia accents, oh, and her other unique assets.
He told her that men would love her. She began filming.
She had never been to perude. She had never realized
(34:36):
how much she loved it. I guess she was great
at it. She died in natural causes. Now she's in
this doll. Oh, and here's some of the things that
she will do. The dollar the woman, well, I think
the spirit that comes with the doll. This is what
you're going to experience if you buy her for eighty
nine ninety nine. She's looking for someone that's going to
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help her explore her sexual side. She has the power
to enter your dreams. She enjoys adult, private conversation as
well as petting and kisses. She wants you to know
that she can feel your touch and she yearns for it.
She likes watching you pleasure yourself and often heightens your experiences.
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She appears in vivid dreams, sometimes in short scenes, and
she's only for people over eighteen. Okay, well, well there
she is, her peachy pink areola.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
I can't believe she's still on the market, to be honest,
eighty nine ninety nine. That's a steal.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Yeah, you're telling me like, come on right, yeah, there
she is. She isn't like her hunting doesn't sound that
scary to me, Like that's oh no, some of them
are fun.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
She sounds kind of nice. She really it sounds well.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
I just want her to tell me stories about being
a horn star and like the eighties and stuff like
that sounds so fun.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Oh my god, I can't even I just.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Don't want to have to do the Ouiji boy like
I wish there was don't make me spell it out
or yeah, the free writing or whatever?
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Is the audio?
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (36:15):
Is there an audio version of this?
Speaker 1 (36:17):
They're a way that we could just sit and chat
without me having to spell every word. Well, maybe she
can do she can use her voice. Like our next segment,
can I play you some EVP some ghost voices?
Speaker 3 (36:32):
Oh no, here we go, okay, ye give me it's time.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
For EVP or ev pase okay. So these are electronic
voice phenomena. These are people, you know, they record a
ghost speaking, They PLoP it up on YouTube. I snatch
it down, and then we try to guess what the
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ghost is saying.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
Scar.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
I got two of them for you. This first one
is from Ashley Smith from the Jackson County, Georgia Paranormal
Investigation Team. What is this ghost saying.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
Over time? Your high smoker? Is that something?
Speaker 1 (37:28):
High smoker?
Speaker 3 (37:30):
High smoker?
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Oh, high smoker, hi smoker. Well that is not what
Ashley Smith from the Jackson County, Georgia Paranormal Investigation Team thought.
Did she think it was a I hope your ass
will move? B Oh, my eyes are sore. See I
(37:57):
won't be nice little girl. Or d I'm home and
I'm nasty too. Okay, it was one of those let
me play it again.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
Oh whatever said that little girl? Yes, yeah, she.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Believes it is I won't be nice, little girl.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
Okay, now that we know that, that's yeah, I hear
the little girl.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
I gotta hear it.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Yeah. So I now that you put that in me,
that that implant that word, and I hear that little girl. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Oh no, okay, here's one more. This is from a
YouTube channel called EVP Class ABC, and this person wrote
in the description, so when I started this session, I
had just taken a bath and I was doing a
few post bath things. I'm a chronic multitasker. In particular,
(39:00):
I used a bath and body words, body splash and
the batteries died on the recorder. When I listened to
what little recording had been done before the battery died,
this is what I heard. Okay, what is this voice saying?
Speaker 3 (39:23):
I hear morning, I'll get you in the morning.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
That's sam what they believe? Do they think it was
a Oh that is my favorite spray? B that bath
is a little gay. C that smells great? Or d
you took a bath but you still stank?
Speaker 3 (39:49):
Good? Play again. I'm gonna say the first one was
the first one.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Oh that is my favorite spray. Yeah, yeah, they think
it is See that smells great. Okay, wait I kind
of hear it, but so they're they're close. That smells
great because she put that bath and bodyworks body spread
(40:23):
Oh classic.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
You're not sponsored by body Words?
Speaker 1 (40:28):
Yeah, I am not. Demans love it, Hey, Deborah, that
was another episode.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
Yeah of spooky stuff.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
You did it?
Speaker 3 (40:38):
I love it? Do this always always. I love to
come on here, have a little hello and get scared.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
It's if every way to find you.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
People can find me on Instagram at Deputy G. I
am touring Canada during this summer.
Speaker 4 (40:53):
I think when this airs I will be in I've
bought some Colorado dates and then I'm gonna be heading
to Toronto, Winnipeg, Edmonton.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
So I'm heading to Canada in the fall. So come
to Canada or it's your Canadian come see me there.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Amazing, Well, thanks so much for doing this.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
Nothing, I'll see you soon.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Oh my gosh, that's mouth's great. Thank you so much
to Deborah di geobody. She kills me. I'm still thinking
about these mysteries. I don't know. Even if it was
something like ooh, some hum thing happened and then people
(41:37):
went crazy, that's scary, Okay, reminds me of what's that movie?
It's like that French movie from a couple of years
back where like all the people I think they did
like acid or something, they all went crazy whatever. But
either way, it's like a terrifying just everyone going insane.
I can't anyway. Thanks Deborah, and thank you for listen.
(42:00):
I love you all, both living and dud. But if
I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me
came back. This has been an exactly right production. Want
to share your paranormal experience on the podcast. I read
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My senior producer is the startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer
is the alarming Christina Chamberlain. This episode was mixed and
sound designed by the eerie Edson Joy. My guest booker
is the petrifying Patrick Kuttner. My theme music is by
the spine chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork by the spooky
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Vanessa Lilac, Photography by the terrifying Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced
by the chilling Karen Kilgareff, the spooky Georgia hart Stark,
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