July 7, 2025 • 47 mins
In her 100th episode on Exactly Right, Roz beams her flashlight through the darkening woods with comedian, actor, writer and star of The Blackening—Dewayne Perkins! Clinging to each other and a prayer, the two discuss spooky legends and cryptids of Illinois: the White Lady of Bachelor’s Grove Cemetery, the Cohomo monster, AND The Tuttle Bottoms Monster!
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
What's that at the bed? It's spooky and JOOKI, I'm
pretty sure it's dead. It's coming this way. Wait a minute,
I nandas Pase. Hey boo, it's me Roz and welcome
(00:31):
to Ghosted by Roz Hernandez, the podcast where I talk
to people that I like about the paranormal. We've got
Dwayne Perkins on the show, who is a brilliant writer, actor, comedian.
We used to do stand up together. I just I
(00:54):
just love them and I love our conversation today. I
think you're gonna enjoy it. I've been having so much
fun with like urban legends, and I think it's also
because I'm traveling so much and every time I go
places like that's it's part of the fabric of every
area of the world. Every place has their their lore,
(01:18):
their stories, and I just I want to hear about
all of them, especially if they have a funny name.
So as always, you know, if you got something good,
send it to me. Oh, here's a story that I
got from Sean. Sean says, when I was in high school,
I worked at a one hour photo lab, remember those,
(01:41):
in a local mall. One evening, a woman came in
with negatives to make some reprints. She was clearly shaken.
I took the negative and made the prince. When she
retrieved them and looked at them, she was even more distraught.
I didn't notice anything unusual at first. It just looked
(02:04):
like a family standing for a photo in front of
a fireplace. She explained that when the photo was first
printed and they were looking at them, the young boy
and the photo immediately started crying and said it's her.
She told me that the night the photo had been taken,
his mother had been killed in a car crash and decapitated. Okay,
(02:28):
In the photo you could see what looked like a
blonde female head on the mantle of the fireplace, along
with other things like a clock, vases, etc. It was
really unsettling. Yeah, I would think so, Sean. Spooky. Well,
(02:48):
thank you so much for sending that, Sean. Okay, screw
your head on tight. It's time for me and Dwayne
Perkins with the show. Oh my god, I don't believe
that I'm joined Bay Duane Perkins, Hi.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Hello, thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Oh my god, so happy to see you. Likewise, I
often fly American airlines and I've seen the blackening twice
on it. Wow, I watched it, I think two times full.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
I just think it's very cool when people watch it
on planes, specifically, Oh my.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
God, I love I love watching movies on planes, but
particularly that one. I loved it.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
I bet you. You were asked this a lot when
you were promoting it. But like horror and comedy, Yeah,
what's the connection? You know?
Speaker 2 (03:52):
The connection is emotion. I think they both elicit an
emotion that is outline out. Whether that's a scream or
a laugh, your body is still releasing an expression of emotion.
And I think horror and comedy the only difference is
on the spectrum of where that expression is coming from.
(04:15):
And I think there's a very thin line between a
laugh and a scream. Sometimes a laugh is a scream.
A scream can turn into a laugh. So I feel
like they're like fraternal twins in a sense.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Oh fascinating. They're definitely close relatives. Yes, yeah, because that's
the thing. If I'm like super scared, I laugh instantly after.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Same, And when I'm scared, my first instinct is to
crack a joke to make the less And then sometimes
when somebody is trying to think you're a joke that
you got to instill fear in them to get them
to shape up.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
I just love horror comedy. Same, that's I mean, that's
sort of the world we're in over here on this pod. Yes,
lauch and we get a little spooks.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yeah, it's it's the up down the roller coaster. I
like that.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
I like to know what's not coming next surprise me.
I might think a life is coming, but maybe you're
gonna scare me. I might be like, oh, cover my eyes,
Oh wait, there's a he he ha hah.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
That time.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
I love the little trickery. It's mischievous.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Oh I love a little miss chef. Have you ever
seen a ghost?
Speaker 2 (05:32):
I don't think I've like seen one, but I've definitely
felt some where in La I was staying at a
hotel what is it called, things called like the Hollywood Hotel,
Hollywood Roosevelts. No, it's not, it's like on what is
that street? It is on Wilton and I believe Moros
(05:56):
Santa Monica. I'm gonna look it up. But I was
staying there and I felt like a presence, like the
whole vibe of the hotel was kind of off and weird.
It was very old. And then I was walking to
the elevator and I like pressed a button and nothing happened,
and then I felt someone behind me and I turned
(06:19):
around and no one was there. And then then life
liquered and I was like, this is crazy. Then I
looked it up and it was allegedly like a very
haunted hotel house that I should have looked up before
I stayed there, and uh, yeah, it was one of
the most haunted places in LA. And I didn't know
until after I felt something and then I looked it
up and said this, yeah, this makes sense.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Yeah, it was strange, and I just like felt like
such a large urge to run, so I did.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
I think every hotel was haunted. That's my belief, especially
old ones. It's like people are gonna die, they just
do that.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Yeah. I also went on a like a haunted tour
of LA with some friends because they came in and
I was like, well, we need something to do, and
we were just walking around Hollywood and it was just
this man be like, so this person died here, Why
chandelier fell on this person in this who? Like it
was true.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
I did that one time. Was it like literally Hollywood
Boulevard area.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Yes, yeah, And they were kind of like talked about
like Griffith and like the old Los Angeles how it
was like why it was called the wild Wide West
and being like, yeah, it was just full of death,
people just dying totally, and I didn't know that. And
then now me and my friends, I think LA is
just haunting and florid dead people.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
I mean it kind of is. There's people just people
die a lot, yeah, period, like they just die.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
I would say LA feels of all the places I've
been or lived. LA has like a particularly spookier vibe
for me.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
LA is the city of like unfinished business.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
That's kind of like.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Possibly I'm not going to make a general but they're
there is a lot of bitterness, a lot of like
I came out here to do this thing and that
it didn't happen, and I died before it did, and
now I'm just like out here looking to achieve that
whatever the goal was.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
That's what it really feels like. And I saw this
psychic once who made me believe in psychics, showed me
I was a little psychic, and I immediately internalized and said, yeah,
I've always thought that, but like a.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Little psychic I do in what way.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I think that I have instincts that feel a little
bit supernatural at times. I have a really good memory,
and so I think there are moments where I've like
dreamed of the future, and then in real time i'd recognize, Oh,
I remember the exact day that I had that dream,
and people would be like, no, that's just TV, and
I'm like, no, it's not. It's an actual image in
my brain that I can recall from another time. And
(08:51):
then when it happens in real life, I'm like, yes,
this is the moment I had a dream about. It
had no contacts or significance until this moment, but there's
a clear amb.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
So you're like spoiler alert, Like I already know what's
gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Yeah, But it's crazy because I never like remember it
until after it happened, and like in real time I'm like, oh, yeah,
I couldn't tell you like something's about to happen, but
when it happens, I'm like, oh, I've seen this before.
And then I have like really strong instincts. And this
is why the psychic told me that I was psychic.
Specifically because around the time I had like got a
(09:28):
bunch of drugs from this woman in a captain in
a treehouse and where else. It was a good time.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
She had a treehouse in silver Lake.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Yeah, she had like a house and then like there
was a tree just like in the middle of the house,
like within the house. It was crazy perfect, and me
and my arty friends were like, oh, we're gonna have
like these sleepovers and just like try them and like
draw pictures and do art. We were just very nerdy
because we have never done any drug harder than weed.
It was like what was it was? It was like shrooms, acid,
(09:58):
d MT. She's to give us like a bunch of
and we literally went there because I just was trying
to try rooms. And then she said here's these other
drugs and we said okay, thank you, ma'am. And I
was being who we are. We're just like nerds. And
so I went to the psychic in Montreal and she
was like, you've been doing a lot of drugs and
I was like ooh, and then she was like no, no,
(10:19):
but you have like a really good grip, like you're
like doing something that feels so healthy. And I was
like thank you, because I think so as well. And
then she literally said, but if you ever try coke,
it will ruin your life. And I said, I literally
have always felt that. And the first time I was
ever offered cocaine, I screamed like I was in a
horror movie. And I was like, I don't know why
my reaction is that strong, and she was like, yes,
(10:41):
you have a psychic level ability of intuition. And I said,
I've always felt the two girls. So all I needed
was one person to just tell me that what I've
already felt was right. And I said, okay, that's truth
for me.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Yeah, I don't see a cocaine. I don't think that
would be good for you.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
I won't.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
You're from Illinois, right, yes, Oh, thank god, I got
it right. I just some research about some like kind
of like spooky things, urban legends and like, do you know,
do you any come to mind about Illinois?
Speaker 2 (11:17):
I mean when I was younger, it was like Candy Man,
but that.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Was because of the movie, That's right, that is.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
And my cousins lived in Kabrinan Green, so I would
like be there and I could not disconnect the two.
And then also that was based off real crimes that
happened in a building where a person snuck into somebody's
house through their mirror because they they cheaped out on
(11:46):
the construction of the building, so inside the mirrors they
connected houses. There was no back, so if you took
out your mirror and they knocked out the other mirror,
you were in somebody else's apartment. So a group of
guys used to to get into a person's house and
they killed them. So it was like the whole thing
where there was like a conflation of like the real
crimes and then Candyman and my young child brain was like, oh,
(12:07):
this is all real.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Yeah. I can't imagine growing up when that movie came
out and being over there.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
I loved the remake though. Yeah, that's a good one.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
There's like stories about like the Chicago fire and kind
of all of those people that died there.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
It's not like a cow kicked over something.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Yeah, missus o'larry's cow kicked it over and then the
city went up in flames.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Damn.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
I don't know any others. Like there's like there's a
hunted house I think in southern like a cornfield. There's
like an urban legend around that that it was like
an old prison and people died.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Also in Chicago, there's a lot of like al Capone
lived here.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Yes, all the mafia stuff.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Al Capone's one of these ghosts that is booked and blessed.
He's everywhere you go to lots of I guess they're
like al Capone hangs out in this building you go
to Chicago, like he's just getting those frequent flyer miles.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
In christ In every picture I see of him, it
just looks like, go mass from the Adam's family.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Oh my god, got a milla. Okay, so this isn't
really an urban legend. It's just something that I feel
the need to talk about. In Franklin County, Illinois, there's
a real place called the Boner Cemetery.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
And what is the Boner a category of.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
It's just a cemetery. It's called the Cemetery.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
I was like, is that a special group of protected people?
Speaker 1 (13:37):
No? No, there's just there's a sign I found online
that just says Boner Cemetery. I just wanted you to.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Know, thank you. I'm gonna tell people.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Have you ever heard of the co Homo Monster?
Speaker 2 (13:52):
The co Homo monster?
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Yeah, the co Homo Monster. No, this was posted by
Q ninety eight point five's website says legends say that
the East Peoria Police Department received over two hundred calls
on July twenty fifth, nineteen seventy two, from people claiming
that they had seen a very smelly, very large creature
(14:16):
similar to Bigfoot roaming throughout Tazewell County. Search crews never
located the creature. Why did two hundred people say that?
Do you think it was a person in a costume?
It seems like that was like the one night that
everyone's like the cohomo monsters running around? What was the
date again, July twenty fifth, nineteen seventy two.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Oh, and it was hot, So I'm just like, who's
his fang walking around this costume?
Speaker 1 (14:44):
That's why there was smelly?
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Maybe maybe it maybe it was a creature. I'm very
open to the possibility.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Are you a bigfoot person? Do you think that that's
the thing?
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Yeah, I mean, I don't know why it wouldn't be.
I think I'm just like the other day, me and
my friend was walking and she like told me to
like look at a thing, and I was like, what
are you talking? And I didn't see anything, And I
thought that she was like talking about like a ghost
or something, and I was so ready to be like, Okay,
what does it look like? Tell me? She was like no,
the sign stupid and I was like, oh, I'm I'm
(15:16):
like too ready for something to like shatter the reality.
I'm just like, please tell me that things are real,
because yeah, I'm just like interesting. I feel like there
has to be a more interesting like dimension or like
layer to like what we're doing, because I'm like, what
is this? Like what is reality? There has to be
like something that we don't know, Like, there has to
(15:37):
be something, but.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
This is it?
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Right?
Speaker 1 (15:41):
It can't. I'm like, come on, have you ever heard
of that Whole House? Devil Baby says Illinois's Whole House
has a handful of spooky stories attached to it, but
the spookiest one involves a woman giving birth to a
devil baby just that.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
U I see, No, this isn't Chicago, yeah, at the
University of Chicago the Whole House like that, because I
do feel like I've heard of this before, but please
tell me more.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
So, she gives birth to a devil baby that she
brought to a Whole House to be raised by a
woman named Jane Adams. Legend says Jane Adams forced the
child to live in the attic until he died, and
his devil face can be seen through the walls of
Whole House.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
I feel like I have heard of this.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
I've heard this story before too, It's a popular one.
The Devil Baby.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yeah, I feel like I heard of this because Whole
House was in the same area that the University of
Chicago is in right now. I feel like I've heard
of it, like on a tour of that school.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
And no, you're right, you'll see the Devil Baby.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
It was like, Oh, he's like an urban legend for
like this bluilding.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
What about the White Lady of Bachelor's Grove Cemetery.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
I mean that sounds like every white lady.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
There's one thing white ladies love, is bad, the bachelor.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
I'm just like, is this just a whit lady who
was having a day?
Speaker 1 (17:03):
According to Ghost citytours dot Com, they call her the
Madonna of Bachelor's Grove, Oh, also known as the Woman
in White or the White Lady. She first appeared in
a photograph taken by a group of paranormal investigators exploring
the cemetery in nineteen seventy nine, she was described as
wearing a hooded robe and carrying a baby in her arms,
(17:25):
not the devil baby, it says in later sightings she
wore only a white dress. She got rid of that baby.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
And in the hooded robe. Thank god, that braining is terrible,
So all white hooded robe, ma'am read the room.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Right, and later citing she wore a white dress and
often wandered the graveyard without the baby. Legend says she's
looking for someone or something, though it's never specified who
or what. Her most famous appearance was in nineteen ninety one,
when an infrared photograph showed her sitting on a headstone
(18:04):
at the north side of the cemetery, gazing out at
the fence and trees beyond. It was taken by the
Oaklawn Ghost Research Society and became quite popular at the time. Gee,
how can you show us that picture? Please?
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Ros Okay, we're gonna take a look at this. This
is allegedly the White Lady. I don't believe that that's
a real photo. It's I mean, it's an infrared photo.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
I don't know how infrared works, but why wouldn't that
just be like a regular lady just sitting.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
I feel like they just saw some white lady sitting
on a bench and they were like, come on, take
a pic. We'll say that that's her.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Yeah. It feels like Christopher Columbus just being.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Like right there, this is what Christopher Columbus would have said.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
He literally just went to new places and was like, oh,
these are brand new things. Yeah, no, those are just
regular people. And I feel like this is the same
instance where they were just like, you know what, we
want to find a ghost. So in their hey, they
were like that white lady over there, it's a little patial.
That's a dead lady.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
She did There's no way this is a ghost. In
my opinion, it's too much like a lady. She's definitely
like slumped over.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
I'm like it has the posture of just a tired lady.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
I feel she is sighing. She's also would be like.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
More corpor like. It feels like it would have like
not just like real life people burdens.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Yes, this ghost is tired from hiking through the cemetery.
She's she's very much giving, like I need to like
take a load off.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
It's just like a deep breath.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
I need a Snickers.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Then you can see kind of like the quoffs in
the hair.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Yeah, that's not a ghost.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
That's not a ghost.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
And if you're wondering what we're talking about, just google.
That's just just google. Uh, I don't know, White Lady
of Bachelor's Grove cemetery photo and you'll see what we're
talking about.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
It also kind looks like you know what it reminds
me of. It is like that Sunday in the Park
painting Chicago. M hm, you know, it's like at the
Art Institute that big it's like very like pointilessm dots.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Yes, my grandmother had a copy of that in her bedroom.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
It reminds me of that. It's just like a lady
sitting outside.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Yeah, don't because for some reason it gave me the
vibe of Susan Boyle, the lady that was singing that boil. Also,
it doesn't really give cemetery. It's like she's sitting on
a basket.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Now, I will say, it kind of looks like her
face didn't come all the way through. You know. I
feel like sometimes a ghost they don't give you the
full body. It's like some of it just didn't process
into our reality.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Yeah, she's missing face and like a calf, because that
blends out as well. Uh, you know, it could just
be like a special like if she turned and she
didn't have a face, I wouldn't then be like, all right,
that's a ghost.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
It says. Some say that the uncanny clarity and quality
of the photo indicate that it was a hoax, but
it was far from the last captured sighting of the Madonna.
So I don't know, you said this was ninety one
ninety one, Okay, I don't know. Maybe why not. Let's
just for fun, let's say, sure, sure, why not?
Speaker 2 (21:27):
I'm the Madonna of Bachelor's Grove.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
There's also some great creatures, like cryptid monsters in Illinois.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Oh I think so. To this day, me and my sister,
no one would. They said that we were crazy. We
saw like a flying creature.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Tell me.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
We were standing on our front porch and there was
like this big shadow that came over and we looked
up and we were like what the hell And we
ran into the house and it and the way we
were like, hey, there's a there was a big creature outside.
My family was like what are you talking about? And
we were like it seemed like a really big bat,
but like a bat, like the size of like a
(22:09):
chart actor.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Like it was just this huge thing that was the
moth Man.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
And we were like and they were still like, no,
y'all are y'all are making stuff up? And to this
day we're both like, you you remember that big, bad creature, right,
And she was like, yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Was the moth Man. You know, the moth Man who
is like famous for West Virginia. It's sort of like
where the moth Man got his break. But as time
has gone on, more and more reports have come out
of Chicago of the moth Man.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
I would believe it because it was crazy somebody I've
never seen.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Do you know what the moth Man looks like?
Speaker 2 (22:48):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Okay, I'm gonna pull up a picture of the moth
Man and tell me if this is who was flying
over you that day. Well, there is a famous statue
of him in West virgin Yeah, and he's got hakes moment.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Is like the sex s that is a thick creature.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Okay, Like this is the moth Man. Oh, it's just
a statue. We're looking at the famous statue and apps too.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
They made the statue very sexy.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
That statue is hot. I mean he's got a bug
heead but.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
But like the body.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Do you know what superhero, if you got a body
like the you can have a bug face.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Yeah. It was something that looked like that. It didn't
look humanoid though, it just looked like bad dinosaur.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Okay. Yeah, Well there's a classification of these creatures that
are they're not flying creatures. They're more they're more bigfoot
esque animally types. It's my favorite classification of and I've
talked about them. I talked about these years ago with Laganza.
(24:03):
Stranjia is called the Abominable swamp slobs, also known abbreviated
as the ass monster, Abominable swamp Slobs swap slobs. So
there's a couple of different kinds. So for example, there's
the Murphy's Burrow mud.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Monster, murphy Burrow's mud Monster, Okay.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Murphy's Burrow mud Monster, also known as the big Muddy Monster.
Back to Q ninety eight point five so website, they
wrote back in June of nineteen seventy three, people from
all over Illinois were reporting sightings of a tall, white
haired creature caked in mud, running towards people. Police also
(24:52):
reported smelling a monster, which K ninees tracked to an
Illinois barn, but they refused to in. That's the Murphy's
Burrow mud monster. Just a big, hairy, white monster covered
in mud. There's also the tuttle Bottoms Monster.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
I'm so stuck on these cops being like, we're gonna
have these stocks searched in the dogs bag. We're scared
in the cops agreeing.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Yeah, They're just like, okay, that's that.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
I have a good one. Okay, So what was the
next one?
Speaker 1 (25:28):
The Tuttle's Bottom Monster. Wait, tuttle Bottoms Monster.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Totle Bottoms Monster. Okay, in total bottoms is a place?
It is? Is it in Bikini Bottom? That sounds not real?
Speaker 1 (25:43):
The tuttle Bottoms Monster. This one has an entire Let's
just go to its Wikipedia because you know what, it
has a Wikipedia. I know it says. The tuttle Bottoms
monster legend is familiar to generations of Saline County residents.
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Former Harrisburg Police Chief Gary Crabtree told the Harrisburg Daily
Register that his department received approximately fifty reports over twenty
eight years of an unidentified beast in the area. Northwest
of Harrisburg, some reporting the creature with two legs and
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some with four. He described it as having a long,
almost ant eater like snout ow. In nineteen sixty three,
the Harrisburg Daily Register reported what seemed to be the
first report of the creature, and they basically wrote that
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at about eleven PM, a young man was armed with
a rifle and told Sheriff James Thompson that there was
a monster loose in the bottom. Knock it off. He
said it was eight feet long, four feet high, and
I had a nose like an ant eater. The young
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man put his rifle in his car and left anyway,
it seems like they didn't find the bottom monster. He's
also been described as a hairy primate not scared of humans,
walks right up to them.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
See these these It's not consistent because the ant eater
and a primate are not the same. They're not similar.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
But it's like ant eater face primate body, I think.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
But it could be on someone have all four someone
all two's. But it's eight feet long, four feet high,
so it's horizontally longer than it is taller.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Wow, you really you really took note of that? I'm
just sitting here. I'm still hung up on the monster
was loose in the bottom.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Ah, lose bottoms never a good situation.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
It was rumored that some murders took place in the
bottoms at that time.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Like murders by people or murders by the monster. They
don't know.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
It's also like a local makeout place. Oh so people
are like over there making See this is what it
always is. I'm telling you. It's always somebody doing something shady,
like okay for an example, like in this case, it's
like teenagers like getting a little bit a little bit
freaky dieky, like second base whatever, and then they're like
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out too late, and then their parents are like, where
have you been? And why is their mud all over
the back of your dress, Diane? And then she's like,
there was a muddy monster that attacked me. And then
before you know it, we're still talking about this and
it's got its own Wikipedia.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Everyone's like, oh, I told my mom about the money Monster.
You have to see it too. We can start this
rumor exactly. It was a movie that came out like
that on Amazon. I think it was called Ricky Staniky
because I auditioned for it. And they said no. But
it was about these three friends that like made up
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this person because they actually like burned a house when
they were younger, and they were like Ricky Sanicky did it.
And then they made up this guy, and then a
real guy, John Cena, came to like pretend to be
him later and then he was crazy, so they had
to deal with that. That was like the premise of
the movie. But I feel like you're onto something. I
think people lie and then have to justify the lie
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so they create new realities.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Yes, absolutely, we just covered this one where this house
was like haunted and they would always like hear noises
or whatever. And then the wife got busted having an
affair and it was like revealed, like no, that was
her like getting banged.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Out just in the house with well everyone's there.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Yes and people. Everyone was like, oh my god. I
just like she was like getting crazy with it.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
I wonder if there is a connection to like kissing
horny stuff with like the supernatural, because there's always like
somebody making out, somebody getting railed. I'm like, huh, why
is it so always to be like to justify this,
there's a monster, there's a ghost. Imagine having sex in
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a house with a person and the excuse you're saying
is must be haunted. Like that's so far fetched, and
yet people were like, yeah, that's the only explanation.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Well, especially like that story was I don't even remember when,
at least one hundred years ago or something, and it's
like back then that just anything was like like someone
would have an orgasm. But they're like I got possessed,
like they like jump to all of that.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
It's true they didn't have enough information. So like, yeah,
I guess if you don't really have like science, it's
like super accessible, you just kind of have to go.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Yeah, but nowadays we have it and people are still like.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Yeah, this are just like vibes. What I feel is
what it is.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Can I show you a haunted doll?
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Yes? Please?
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Okay, it's time for the dolls are living. So I
go to eBay and I type in haunted doll and
there's hundreds, maybe thousands.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Wow. I never would have thought, oh, maybe I've spent
time looking at these haunted dolls.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
They all come with little biographies that the person's selling
it will write And I got one for you today
named Christopher, and he's going for twenty four dollars. Geeha,
show us Christopher, please you got a ros Okay.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Okay, come on, dreamgirl wig.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Oh my god. Yes, that is definitely a hair dow.
That's not that's not a haircut.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
No, that was done. That is an dude that was
done in a salon and then hailed that way and
they said spray it down. Actually, to be honest, this
is kind. To be honest, this whole look, this outfit,
the hair, I love it. I'm like, wow, give us everything.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Yeah, this doll is very feminine looking, goes by Christopher
just looking at it. The hair is very All you
got to do is dream baby, We'll be there.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Turns around exactly with a very wide leged pant, you know,
sort of flares out, gives you a little hip action
and a plaid vast.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Okay, here's the bio, it says on Ouiji board contact.
This spirit identifies as Christopher, a gay man who died
in the nineteen twenties. He was in his early middle age.
My free writing session. I think they were just kind
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of like doing a thing where they're just like writing psychically,
you know. It's like a thing people do. It's like
Tyler Henry kind of does the Hollywood medium. My free
writing session revealed that he chose this doll due to
the fact that the doll is such a healthy appearing young.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Man man it kind of looks like Liza Manette as
Christopher had been very sick.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
He was raised by an overbearing mother. He has a
huge amount of anger bottled up because of his mother.
He never got to live the life he wanted to live.
Oh this is according to the website. It says he
was never able to have a romantic or physical relationship
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with anyone. He secretly recognized that if he had been
able to have a relationship, he would have chosen someone
like a young, well mannered priest at his parish who
had healthy, good looks and quick wit. What the hell
is this the secret attraction that he had died with?
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Christopher, I was gonna make a terrible joke. I was
like a priest. That's why he put the doll. As
a little boy. Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
He seeks only existence without pain and understanding of who
he is and his need for love. He comes with
a hat that reminds him of childhood and he hates it.
Oh this was on the ground he implied that his
energy is negative and changes if he is forced to
wear it. Do not make him wear the hat.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
They do not cover my blunt bang. Don't do it.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
He said, I had rollers on my head all night
last night. You're not gonna put that hat over this dew.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
He couldn't live in real life, so he's gonna let
the doll he couldn't, which is out in free.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Absolutely, this is a very prideful queer doll. Okay, Well
that was that. Can I plave some ghost voices? It's
time for EVP or ev please okay EVP Electronic Voice Phenomenal. Yes,
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this is like when ghost hunters capture a ghost speaking.
It's exactly that you already know. So I go to
YouTube and I find people's EVPs that they have posted
they believe they've captured a ghost saying something. I got
two of them for you today. They are from Space
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Coast Paranormal Society. I don't know where these were taken,
But what is this ghost saying? And he guesses.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Sounds like I'm saying, cheers to Brittany.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
That was Christopher the gay doll, cheers to Brittany. Well
that's not what they think. I'm going to give you
an abc D. It's one of these. Did they think
it was a year two thirsty B? Yes, I'm nervous.
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C I have to hurt you? Or D Yes to
her queen like the ghost centers are coming through, yes
to her these other ones. Now, I'm gonna go with
A you're too thirsty.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Wait, wait, play a warmer time.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Well, I'll tell you. Yeah, you're not gonna win anything.
They believe it C have to hurt you.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
I think I could have hurt hurt, but it sounded
like more like, please don't hurt me.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Okay, wait, let's listen again. I could totally hear please
don't hurt me. Yeah, but they think it's I have
to hurt you.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
I got another one for you. This one is also
from the same place. What is this one saying? Okay, wait,
it's like a whisper.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Any guesses I heard too late for me and you?
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Okay, these are good guesses. It's too late for me
and you.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
You had your chance, and now she's gonna do a
murder suicide.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Do you think it was a Can I eat your food? B?
Can I join you? C? Can I clean your room?
Or D? Can I lick you. Okay, they think it's
one of those.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Oh can I join you?
Speaker 1 (38:37):
It's totally can I join you? Now that I know that,
but it did sound like whatever you said, yeah, I
hear it now, all right. Last thing, I just want
to know some of your thoughts on things. Yes, what
do you think about aliens? Are they real?
Speaker 2 (38:59):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Do you think they live on another planet?
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Yes? But I also think they live here as well.
Where I think in the ocean, the valley very convinced. Yeah,
on Hollywood Boulevard. I think that the fact that there's
so much undiscovered water makes me think that there are
things there even they're like similar to space. There are
parts of space so like humans can't go because it's
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not made for us. Parts of the ocean that humans
have not been able to go to. I'm assuming whatever's
down there is alien to us.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
Oh my god, I was just watching this video that
was like they were talking about how like I think
it was Daytona Beach, Florida, And they're like, we keep
hearing that there's like these orb like things floating around
the mother shep. I'm like, what is so the aliens
are in Daytona Beach, Florida.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
I mean, I guess they want to see some formula one.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
Yeah, they want to do spring bread like a wet
t shirt contest or something orbs. I don't know the
mother shit.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
I'm like, why would they be on This.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
Is just some TikTok I saw. I don't know that
it's rue. There was no video evidence. It was just
somebody in Daytona Beach being like, they're coming, They're in
the ocean.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
I mean, I feel like there was those government hearings
where those men were like, yes, there are UFOs, there
are aliens.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
Next question, and everybody.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
Was pretty much like, okay, but can I afford food?
So I really just got swept under the road, right,
So we don't there's more people? Okay?
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Great?
Speaker 2 (40:42):
Truly? So yeah, I think that there's been enough information.
There's not a lot of specifics, but I don't think
there's a question of whether aliens exist or not. It's
just like, what are they doing? How does it pertain
to us?
Speaker 1 (40:56):
And are they hot?
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Can they make me come?
Speaker 1 (41:05):
What about? Do you believe in past lives?
Speaker 2 (41:11):
I do? I just feel like I've had this dream
ones where this young man was talking to me who
was like, hey, I was you before, and I was like,
what is this? Yeah, I think that there's like energies
that are like left over. I don't know if it's
like an exact like rebirth, but I feel like there
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are energies that have existed pre myself.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
But did the guy have anything else to say? Uh?
Speaker 2 (41:43):
He was just kind of like telling me like about
his life and kind of how that allowed me to
kind of like skip steps. It'd be like, oh, we
if we've already experienced this, so that's why you're like
naturally better at that, and then these areas like, uh,
he died very young, so he was like, you're going
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to be a very smart, like young person because you
have like multiple lives that have experienced that as an adult.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
So he's like that's me. Yeah, I'm the reason you're smart.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
And then he was like, but as an adult, like
you kind of like on your own. I was like what.
So that was kind of the conversation interesting. He was
given like Tom Swayer vibes. Okay, and maybe I just
watched Tom and Huck and my dreams manifested that, but
he was very much giving kind of that vibe.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
Hey, Dathan Taylor Thomas, Oh my god, okay, last one,
what do you think of hmm, my favorite one. Are
you the type of person that believes in like, well
you already kind of said de ja vou, but like
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synchronous cities or like do you go, oh, this was
meant to be it was a sign. Do you read
into things like that or you just go, oh, coincidence.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
I do read into things, but not in like a wait,
maybe that's just me like how I justify existence. But
I feel like the things that are supposed to happen
are what's happening. That's why they're happening, And so I
think that helps me not just be like, oh, it's
like a sign. I'm like, I don't know if there's signs,
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but there's like certain things where like you wanted to
go certain way but it goes that way, and me
thinking like huh, why did it go that way, and
then trying to and then finding within kind of the
universe of being like later on being like, oh, I
see if that would have happened, this thing never would
have happened, or if this thing happened, then that like
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connecting the dots in that way. I feel like everything
happens for a reason, but not in like any real
time to where I'm like, oh, this is going to happen,
or like that's a I'm like, oh, I don't think
I'm that aware. I don't think the universe is telling
me anything about the future in that way. It's been
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like I'm giving you a sign so you can see.
I'm like, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
That's what I always think about deja vu. It's like
when you feel like you've already been there or whatever.
It's confirming this is where you're supposed to be, Like
you already got like a glimpse and now you're living
it out because this is where you're supposed to go.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
Yes, like this is the aftermath of the foreshadow, like
you're in the foreshadow.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
Yeah, it's foreshadowing.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
Well guess what that's it?
Speaker 2 (44:42):
Oh? Wow, this was lovely, isn't it fun?
Speaker 1 (44:45):
We just talk about weird and.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
I don't get to talk to a lot of people
about this stuff. I don't think people would think I
am as weird as I am.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
Yeah, you're weird.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
Yeah, I really like all this stuff.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
I'm obsessed. Where do people find you? What's going on?
You're in a movie right now?
Speaker 2 (45:00):
TV show, yes, I'm in a TV show, and by
the time this comes out, I believe the finale would
have happened. So I hope you guys watched the studio
on Apple and hope you had a good time.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
Oh my god, I need to watch it. I haven't
seen it yet.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
Wait, who else is in a it's Seth Rogan's show.
So Seth Rogen, Mike Baron Holtz, Katherine Han, Catherine O'Hara.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
Oh my god. Those are two very good Catherines, m H.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
And they're very lovely. I like Catherine Han.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
What else were you doing with Kicky Palmer.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
One of them days. It's a movie that came out
earlier this year and it's on Netflix right now, So
go watch that.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
I loveer same big fan.
Speaker 3 (45:46):
Ah.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
Well, thanks for being here.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
Thanks for having me, and look out.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
For those tuttle bottoms monsters.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
Yeah they're on the loose.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
Thank you so much to Dwayne Perkins. What a fun time.
Oh I love you all, both living and dead. But
if I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't haunt
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What's that at the bed? It's spooky and JOOKI, I'm
pretty sure it's dead. It's coming this way. Wait a minute,
I nandas Pase. Hey boo, it's me Roz and welcome
(00:31):
to Ghosted by Roz Hernandez, the podcast where I talk
to people that I like about the paranormal. We've got
Dwayne Perkins on the show, who is a brilliant writer, actor, comedian.
We used to do stand up together. I just I
(00:54):
just love them and I love our conversation today. I
think you're gonna enjoy it. I've been having so much
fun with like urban legends, and I think it's also
because I'm traveling so much and every time I go
places like that's it's part of the fabric of every
area of the world. Every place has their their lore,
(01:18):
their stories, and I just I want to hear about
all of them, especially if they have a funny name.
So as always, you know, if you got something good,
send it to me. Oh, here's a story that I
got from Sean. Sean says, when I was in high school,
I worked at a one hour photo lab, remember those,
(01:41):
in a local mall. One evening, a woman came in
with negatives to make some reprints. She was clearly shaken.
I took the negative and made the prince. When she
retrieved them and looked at them, she was even more distraught.
I didn't notice anything unusual at first. It just looked
(02:04):
like a family standing for a photo in front of
a fireplace. She explained that when the photo was first
printed and they were looking at them, the young boy
and the photo immediately started crying and said it's her.
She told me that the night the photo had been taken,
his mother had been killed in a car crash and decapitated. Okay,
(02:28):
In the photo you could see what looked like a
blonde female head on the mantle of the fireplace, along
with other things like a clock, vases, etc. It was
really unsettling. Yeah, I would think so, Sean. Spooky. Well,
(02:48):
thank you so much for sending that, Sean. Okay, screw
your head on tight. It's time for me and Dwayne
Perkins with the show. Oh my god, I don't believe
that I'm joined Bay Duane Perkins, Hi.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Hello, thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Oh my god, so happy to see you. Likewise, I
often fly American airlines and I've seen the blackening twice
on it. Wow, I watched it, I think two times full.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
I just think it's very cool when people watch it
on planes, specifically, Oh my.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
God, I love I love watching movies on planes, but
particularly that one. I loved it.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
I bet you. You were asked this a lot when
you were promoting it. But like horror and comedy, Yeah,
what's the connection? You know?
Speaker 2 (03:52):
The connection is emotion. I think they both elicit an
emotion that is outline out. Whether that's a scream or
a laugh, your body is still releasing an expression of emotion.
And I think horror and comedy the only difference is
on the spectrum of where that expression is coming from.
(04:15):
And I think there's a very thin line between a
laugh and a scream. Sometimes a laugh is a scream.
A scream can turn into a laugh. So I feel
like they're like fraternal twins in a sense.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Oh fascinating. They're definitely close relatives. Yes, yeah, because that's
the thing. If I'm like super scared, I laugh instantly after.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Same, And when I'm scared, my first instinct is to
crack a joke to make the less And then sometimes
when somebody is trying to think you're a joke that
you got to instill fear in them to get them
to shape up.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
I just love horror comedy. Same, that's I mean, that's
sort of the world we're in over here on this pod. Yes,
lauch and we get a little spooks.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yeah, it's it's the up down the roller coaster. I
like that.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
I like to know what's not coming next surprise me.
I might think a life is coming, but maybe you're
gonna scare me. I might be like, oh, cover my eyes,
Oh wait, there's a he he ha hah.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
That time.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
I love the little trickery. It's mischievous.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Oh I love a little miss chef. Have you ever
seen a ghost?
Speaker 2 (05:32):
I don't think I've like seen one, but I've definitely
felt some where in La I was staying at a
hotel what is it called, things called like the Hollywood Hotel,
Hollywood Roosevelts. No, it's not, it's like on what is
that street? It is on Wilton and I believe Moros
(05:56):
Santa Monica. I'm gonna look it up. But I was
staying there and I felt like a presence, like the
whole vibe of the hotel was kind of off and weird.
It was very old. And then I was walking to
the elevator and I like pressed a button and nothing happened,
and then I felt someone behind me and I turned
(06:19):
around and no one was there. And then then life
liquered and I was like, this is crazy. Then I
looked it up and it was allegedly like a very
haunted hotel house that I should have looked up before
I stayed there, and uh, yeah, it was one of
the most haunted places in LA. And I didn't know
until after I felt something and then I looked it
up and said this, yeah, this makes sense.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Yeah, it was strange, and I just like felt like
such a large urge to run, so I did.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
I think every hotel was haunted. That's my belief, especially
old ones. It's like people are gonna die, they just
do that.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Yeah. I also went on a like a haunted tour
of LA with some friends because they came in and
I was like, well, we need something to do, and
we were just walking around Hollywood and it was just
this man be like, so this person died here, Why
chandelier fell on this person in this who? Like it
was true.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
I did that one time. Was it like literally Hollywood
Boulevard area.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Yes, yeah, And they were kind of like talked about
like Griffith and like the old Los Angeles how it
was like why it was called the wild Wide West
and being like, yeah, it was just full of death,
people just dying totally, and I didn't know that. And
then now me and my friends, I think LA is
just haunting and florid dead people.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
I mean it kind of is. There's people just people
die a lot, yeah, period, like they just die.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
I would say LA feels of all the places I've
been or lived. LA has like a particularly spookier vibe
for me.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
LA is the city of like unfinished business.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
That's kind of like.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Possibly I'm not going to make a general but they're
there is a lot of bitterness, a lot of like
I came out here to do this thing and that
it didn't happen, and I died before it did, and
now I'm just like out here looking to achieve that
whatever the goal was.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
That's what it really feels like. And I saw this
psychic once who made me believe in psychics, showed me
I was a little psychic, and I immediately internalized and said, yeah,
I've always thought that, but like a.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Little psychic I do in what way.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I think that I have instincts that feel a little
bit supernatural at times. I have a really good memory,
and so I think there are moments where I've like
dreamed of the future, and then in real time i'd recognize, Oh,
I remember the exact day that I had that dream,
and people would be like, no, that's just TV, and
I'm like, no, it's not. It's an actual image in
my brain that I can recall from another time. And
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then when it happens in real life, I'm like, yes,
this is the moment I had a dream about. It
had no contacts or significance until this moment, but there's
a clear amb.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
So you're like spoiler alert, Like I already know what's
gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Yeah, But it's crazy because I never like remember it
until after it happened, and like in real time I'm like, oh, yeah,
I couldn't tell you like something's about to happen, but
when it happens, I'm like, oh, I've seen this before.
And then I have like really strong instincts. And this
is why the psychic told me that I was psychic.
Specifically because around the time I had like got a
(09:28):
bunch of drugs from this woman in a captain in
a treehouse and where else. It was a good time.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
She had a treehouse in silver Lake.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Yeah, she had like a house and then like there
was a tree just like in the middle of the house,
like within the house. It was crazy perfect, and me
and my arty friends were like, oh, we're gonna have
like these sleepovers and just like try them and like
draw pictures and do art. We were just very nerdy
because we have never done any drug harder than weed.
It was like what was it was? It was like shrooms, acid,
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d MT. She's to give us like a bunch of
and we literally went there because I just was trying
to try rooms. And then she said here's these other
drugs and we said okay, thank you, ma'am. And I
was being who we are. We're just like nerds. And
so I went to the psychic in Montreal and she
was like, you've been doing a lot of drugs and
I was like ooh, and then she was like no, no,
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but you have like a really good grip, like you're
like doing something that feels so healthy. And I was
like thank you, because I think so as well. And
then she literally said, but if you ever try coke,
it will ruin your life. And I said, I literally
have always felt that. And the first time I was
ever offered cocaine, I screamed like I was in a
horror movie. And I was like, I don't know why
my reaction is that strong, and she was like, yes,
(10:41):
you have a psychic level ability of intuition. And I said,
I've always felt the two girls. So all I needed
was one person to just tell me that what I've
already felt was right. And I said, okay, that's truth
for me.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Yeah, I don't see a cocaine. I don't think that
would be good for you.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
I won't.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
You're from Illinois, right, yes, Oh, thank god, I got
it right. I just some research about some like kind
of like spooky things, urban legends and like, do you know,
do you any come to mind about Illinois?
Speaker 2 (11:17):
I mean when I was younger, it was like Candy Man,
but that.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Was because of the movie, That's right, that is.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
And my cousins lived in Kabrinan Green, so I would
like be there and I could not disconnect the two.
And then also that was based off real crimes that
happened in a building where a person snuck into somebody's
house through their mirror because they they cheaped out on
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the construction of the building, so inside the mirrors they
connected houses. There was no back, so if you took
out your mirror and they knocked out the other mirror,
you were in somebody else's apartment. So a group of
guys used to to get into a person's house and
they killed them. So it was like the whole thing
where there was like a conflation of like the real
crimes and then Candyman and my young child brain was like, oh,
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this is all real.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Yeah. I can't imagine growing up when that movie came
out and being over there.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
I loved the remake though. Yeah, that's a good one.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
There's like stories about like the Chicago fire and kind
of all of those people that died there.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
It's not like a cow kicked over something.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Yeah, missus o'larry's cow kicked it over and then the
city went up in flames.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Damn.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
I don't know any others. Like there's like there's a
hunted house I think in southern like a cornfield. There's
like an urban legend around that that it was like
an old prison and people died.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Also in Chicago, there's a lot of like al Capone
lived here.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Yes, all the mafia stuff.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Al Capone's one of these ghosts that is booked and blessed.
He's everywhere you go to lots of I guess they're
like al Capone hangs out in this building you go
to Chicago, like he's just getting those frequent flyer miles.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
In christ In every picture I see of him, it
just looks like, go mass from the Adam's family.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Oh my god, got a milla. Okay, so this isn't
really an urban legend. It's just something that I feel
the need to talk about. In Franklin County, Illinois, there's
a real place called the Boner Cemetery.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
And what is the Boner a category of.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
It's just a cemetery. It's called the Cemetery.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
I was like, is that a special group of protected people?
Speaker 1 (13:37):
No? No, there's just there's a sign I found online
that just says Boner Cemetery. I just wanted you to.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Know, thank you. I'm gonna tell people.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Have you ever heard of the co Homo Monster?
Speaker 2 (13:52):
The co Homo monster?
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Yeah, the co Homo Monster. No, this was posted by
Q ninety eight point five's website says legends say that
the East Peoria Police Department received over two hundred calls
on July twenty fifth, nineteen seventy two, from people claiming
that they had seen a very smelly, very large creature
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similar to Bigfoot roaming throughout Tazewell County. Search crews never
located the creature. Why did two hundred people say that?
Do you think it was a person in a costume?
It seems like that was like the one night that
everyone's like the cohomo monsters running around? What was the
date again, July twenty fifth, nineteen seventy two.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Oh, and it was hot, So I'm just like, who's
his fang walking around this costume?
Speaker 1 (14:44):
That's why there was smelly?
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Maybe maybe it maybe it was a creature. I'm very
open to the possibility.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Are you a bigfoot person? Do you think that that's
the thing?
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Yeah, I mean, I don't know why it wouldn't be.
I think I'm just like the other day, me and
my friend was walking and she like told me to
like look at a thing, and I was like, what
are you talking? And I didn't see anything, And I
thought that she was like talking about like a ghost
or something, and I was so ready to be like, Okay,
what does it look like? Tell me? She was like no,
the sign stupid and I was like, oh, I'm I'm
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like too ready for something to like shatter the reality.
I'm just like, please tell me that things are real,
because yeah, I'm just like interesting. I feel like there
has to be a more interesting like dimension or like
layer to like what we're doing, because I'm like, what
is this? Like what is reality? There has to be
like something that we don't know, Like, there has to
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be something, but.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
This is it?
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Right?
Speaker 1 (15:41):
It can't. I'm like, come on, have you ever heard
of that Whole House? Devil Baby says Illinois's Whole House
has a handful of spooky stories attached to it, but
the spookiest one involves a woman giving birth to a
devil baby just that.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
U I see, No, this isn't Chicago, yeah, at the
University of Chicago the Whole House like that, because I
do feel like I've heard of this before, but please
tell me more.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
So, she gives birth to a devil baby that she
brought to a Whole House to be raised by a
woman named Jane Adams. Legend says Jane Adams forced the
child to live in the attic until he died, and
his devil face can be seen through the walls of
Whole House.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
I feel like I have heard of this.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
I've heard this story before too, It's a popular one.
The Devil Baby.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yeah, I feel like I heard of this because Whole
House was in the same area that the University of
Chicago is in right now. I feel like I've heard
of it, like on a tour of that school.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
And no, you're right, you'll see the Devil Baby.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
It was like, Oh, he's like an urban legend for
like this bluilding.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
What about the White Lady of Bachelor's Grove Cemetery.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
I mean that sounds like every white lady.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
There's one thing white ladies love, is bad, the bachelor.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
I'm just like, is this just a whit lady who
was having a day?
Speaker 1 (17:03):
According to Ghost citytours dot Com, they call her the
Madonna of Bachelor's Grove, Oh, also known as the Woman
in White or the White Lady. She first appeared in
a photograph taken by a group of paranormal investigators exploring
the cemetery in nineteen seventy nine, she was described as
wearing a hooded robe and carrying a baby in her arms,
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not the devil baby, it says in later sightings she
wore only a white dress. She got rid of that baby.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
And in the hooded robe. Thank god, that braining is terrible,
So all white hooded robe, ma'am read the room.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Right, and later citing she wore a white dress and
often wandered the graveyard without the baby. Legend says she's
looking for someone or something, though it's never specified who
or what. Her most famous appearance was in nineteen ninety one,
when an infrared photograph showed her sitting on a headstone
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at the north side of the cemetery, gazing out at
the fence and trees beyond. It was taken by the
Oaklawn Ghost Research Society and became quite popular at the time. Gee,
how can you show us that picture? Please?
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Ros Okay, we're gonna take a look at this. This
is allegedly the White Lady. I don't believe that that's
a real photo. It's I mean, it's an infrared photo.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
I don't know how infrared works, but why wouldn't that
just be like a regular lady just sitting.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
I feel like they just saw some white lady sitting
on a bench and they were like, come on, take
a pic. We'll say that that's her.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Yeah. It feels like Christopher Columbus just being.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Like right there, this is what Christopher Columbus would have said.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
He literally just went to new places and was like, oh,
these are brand new things. Yeah, no, those are just
regular people. And I feel like this is the same
instance where they were just like, you know what, we
want to find a ghost. So in their hey, they
were like that white lady over there, it's a little patial.
That's a dead lady.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
She did There's no way this is a ghost. In
my opinion, it's too much like a lady. She's definitely
like slumped over.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
I'm like it has the posture of just a tired lady.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
I feel she is sighing. She's also would be like.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
More corpor like. It feels like it would have like
not just like real life people burdens.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Yes, this ghost is tired from hiking through the cemetery.
She's she's very much giving, like I need to like
take a load off.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
It's just like a deep breath.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
I need a Snickers.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Then you can see kind of like the quoffs in
the hair.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Yeah, that's not a ghost.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
That's not a ghost.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
And if you're wondering what we're talking about, just google.
That's just just google. Uh, I don't know, White Lady
of Bachelor's Grove cemetery photo and you'll see what we're
talking about.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
It also kind looks like you know what it reminds
me of. It is like that Sunday in the Park
painting Chicago. M hm, you know, it's like at the
Art Institute that big it's like very like pointilessm dots.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Yes, my grandmother had a copy of that in her bedroom.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
It reminds me of that. It's just like a lady
sitting outside.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Yeah, don't because for some reason it gave me the
vibe of Susan Boyle, the lady that was singing that boil. Also,
it doesn't really give cemetery. It's like she's sitting on
a basket.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Now, I will say, it kind of looks like her
face didn't come all the way through. You know. I
feel like sometimes a ghost they don't give you the
full body. It's like some of it just didn't process
into our reality.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Yeah, she's missing face and like a calf, because that
blends out as well. Uh, you know, it could just
be like a special like if she turned and she
didn't have a face, I wouldn't then be like, all right,
that's a ghost.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
It says. Some say that the uncanny clarity and quality
of the photo indicate that it was a hoax, but
it was far from the last captured sighting of the Madonna.
So I don't know, you said this was ninety one
ninety one, Okay, I don't know. Maybe why not. Let's
just for fun, let's say, sure, sure, why not?
Speaker 2 (21:27):
I'm the Madonna of Bachelor's Grove.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
There's also some great creatures, like cryptid monsters in Illinois.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Oh I think so. To this day, me and my sister,
no one would. They said that we were crazy. We
saw like a flying creature.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Tell me.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
We were standing on our front porch and there was
like this big shadow that came over and we looked
up and we were like what the hell And we
ran into the house and it and the way we
were like, hey, there's a there was a big creature outside.
My family was like what are you talking about? And
we were like it seemed like a really big bat,
but like a bat, like the size of like a
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chart actor.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Like it was just this huge thing that was the
moth Man.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
And we were like and they were still like, no,
y'all are y'all are making stuff up? And to this
day we're both like, you you remember that big, bad creature, right,
And she was like, yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Was the moth Man. You know, the moth Man who
is like famous for West Virginia. It's sort of like
where the moth Man got his break. But as time
has gone on, more and more reports have come out
of Chicago of the moth Man.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
I would believe it because it was crazy somebody I've
never seen.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Do you know what the moth Man looks like?
Speaker 2 (22:48):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Okay, I'm gonna pull up a picture of the moth
Man and tell me if this is who was flying
over you that day. Well, there is a famous statue
of him in West virgin Yeah, and he's got hakes moment.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Is like the sex s that is a thick creature.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Okay, Like this is the moth Man. Oh, it's just
a statue. We're looking at the famous statue and apps too.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
They made the statue very sexy.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
That statue is hot. I mean he's got a bug
heead but.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
But like the body.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Do you know what superhero, if you got a body
like the you can have a bug face.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Yeah. It was something that looked like that. It didn't
look humanoid though, it just looked like bad dinosaur.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Okay. Yeah, Well there's a classification of these creatures that
are they're not flying creatures. They're more they're more bigfoot
esque animally types. It's my favorite classification of and I've
talked about them. I talked about these years ago with Laganza.
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Stranjia is called the Abominable swamp slobs, also known abbreviated
as the ass monster, Abominable swamp Slobs swap slobs. So
there's a couple of different kinds. So for example, there's
the Murphy's Burrow mud.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Monster, murphy Burrow's mud Monster, Okay.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Murphy's Burrow mud Monster, also known as the big Muddy Monster.
Back to Q ninety eight point five so website, they
wrote back in June of nineteen seventy three, people from
all over Illinois were reporting sightings of a tall, white
haired creature caked in mud, running towards people. Police also
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reported smelling a monster, which K ninees tracked to an
Illinois barn, but they refused to in. That's the Murphy's
Burrow mud monster. Just a big, hairy, white monster covered
in mud. There's also the tuttle Bottoms Monster.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
I'm so stuck on these cops being like, we're gonna
have these stocks searched in the dogs bag. We're scared
in the cops agreeing.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Yeah, They're just like, okay, that's that.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
I have a good one. Okay, So what was the
next one?
Speaker 1 (25:28):
The Tuttle's Bottom Monster. Wait, tuttle Bottoms Monster.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Totle Bottoms Monster. Okay, in total bottoms is a place?
It is? Is it in Bikini Bottom? That sounds not real?
Speaker 1 (25:43):
The tuttle Bottoms Monster. This one has an entire Let's
just go to its Wikipedia because you know what, it
has a Wikipedia. I know it says. The tuttle Bottoms
monster legend is familiar to generations of Saline County residents.
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Former Harrisburg Police Chief Gary Crabtree told the Harrisburg Daily
Register that his department received approximately fifty reports over twenty
eight years of an unidentified beast in the area. Northwest
of Harrisburg, some reporting the creature with two legs and
(26:27):
some with four. He described it as having a long,
almost ant eater like snout ow. In nineteen sixty three,
the Harrisburg Daily Register reported what seemed to be the
first report of the creature, and they basically wrote that
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at about eleven PM, a young man was armed with
a rifle and told Sheriff James Thompson that there was
a monster loose in the bottom. Knock it off. He
said it was eight feet long, four feet high, and
I had a nose like an ant eater. The young
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man put his rifle in his car and left anyway,
it seems like they didn't find the bottom monster. He's
also been described as a hairy primate not scared of humans,
walks right up to them.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
See these these It's not consistent because the ant eater
and a primate are not the same. They're not similar.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
But it's like ant eater face primate body, I think.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
But it could be on someone have all four someone
all two's. But it's eight feet long, four feet high,
so it's horizontally longer than it is taller.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Wow, you really you really took note of that? I'm
just sitting here. I'm still hung up on the monster
was loose in the bottom.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Ah, lose bottoms never a good situation.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
It was rumored that some murders took place in the
bottoms at that time.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Like murders by people or murders by the monster. They
don't know.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
It's also like a local makeout place. Oh so people
are like over there making See this is what it
always is. I'm telling you. It's always somebody doing something shady,
like okay for an example, like in this case, it's
like teenagers like getting a little bit a little bit
freaky dieky, like second base whatever, and then they're like
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out too late, and then their parents are like, where
have you been? And why is their mud all over
the back of your dress, Diane? And then she's like,
there was a muddy monster that attacked me. And then
before you know it, we're still talking about this and
it's got its own Wikipedia.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Everyone's like, oh, I told my mom about the money Monster.
You have to see it too. We can start this
rumor exactly. It was a movie that came out like
that on Amazon. I think it was called Ricky Staniky
because I auditioned for it. And they said no. But
it was about these three friends that like made up
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this person because they actually like burned a house when
they were younger, and they were like Ricky Sanicky did it.
And then they made up this guy, and then a
real guy, John Cena, came to like pretend to be
him later and then he was crazy, so they had
to deal with that. That was like the premise of
the movie. But I feel like you're onto something. I
think people lie and then have to justify the lie
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so they create new realities.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Yes, absolutely, we just covered this one where this house
was like haunted and they would always like hear noises
or whatever. And then the wife got busted having an
affair and it was like revealed, like no, that was
her like getting banged.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Out just in the house with well everyone's there.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Yes and people. Everyone was like, oh my god. I
just like she was like getting crazy with it.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
I wonder if there is a connection to like kissing
horny stuff with like the supernatural, because there's always like
somebody making out, somebody getting railed. I'm like, huh, why
is it so always to be like to justify this,
there's a monster, there's a ghost. Imagine having sex in
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a house with a person and the excuse you're saying
is must be haunted. Like that's so far fetched, and
yet people were like, yeah, that's the only explanation.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Well, especially like that story was I don't even remember when,
at least one hundred years ago or something, and it's
like back then that just anything was like like someone
would have an orgasm. But they're like I got possessed,
like they like jump to all of that.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
It's true they didn't have enough information. So like, yeah,
I guess if you don't really have like science, it's
like super accessible, you just kind of have to go.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Yeah, but nowadays we have it and people are still like.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Yeah, this are just like vibes. What I feel is
what it is.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Can I show you a haunted doll?
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Yes? Please?
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Okay, it's time for the dolls are living. So I
go to eBay and I type in haunted doll and
there's hundreds, maybe thousands.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Wow. I never would have thought, oh, maybe I've spent
time looking at these haunted dolls.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
They all come with little biographies that the person's selling
it will write And I got one for you today
named Christopher, and he's going for twenty four dollars. Geeha,
show us Christopher, please you got a ros Okay.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Okay, come on, dreamgirl wig.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Oh my god. Yes, that is definitely a hair dow.
That's not that's not a haircut.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
No, that was done. That is an dude that was
done in a salon and then hailed that way and
they said spray it down. Actually, to be honest, this
is kind. To be honest, this whole look, this outfit,
the hair, I love it. I'm like, wow, give us everything.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Yeah, this doll is very feminine looking, goes by Christopher
just looking at it. The hair is very All you
got to do is dream baby, We'll be there.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Turns around exactly with a very wide leged pant, you know,
sort of flares out, gives you a little hip action
and a plaid vast.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Okay, here's the bio, it says on Ouiji board contact.
This spirit identifies as Christopher, a gay man who died
in the nineteen twenties. He was in his early middle age.
My free writing session. I think they were just kind
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of like doing a thing where they're just like writing psychically,
you know. It's like a thing people do. It's like
Tyler Henry kind of does the Hollywood medium. My free
writing session revealed that he chose this doll due to
the fact that the doll is such a healthy appearing young.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Man man it kind of looks like Liza Manette as
Christopher had been very sick.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
He was raised by an overbearing mother. He has a
huge amount of anger bottled up because of his mother.
He never got to live the life he wanted to live.
Oh this is according to the website. It says he
was never able to have a romantic or physical relationship
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with anyone. He secretly recognized that if he had been
able to have a relationship, he would have chosen someone
like a young, well mannered priest at his parish who
had healthy, good looks and quick wit. What the hell
is this the secret attraction that he had died with?
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Christopher, I was gonna make a terrible joke. I was
like a priest. That's why he put the doll. As
a little boy. Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
He seeks only existence without pain and understanding of who
he is and his need for love. He comes with
a hat that reminds him of childhood and he hates it.
Oh this was on the ground he implied that his
energy is negative and changes if he is forced to
wear it. Do not make him wear the hat.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
They do not cover my blunt bang. Don't do it.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
He said, I had rollers on my head all night
last night. You're not gonna put that hat over this dew.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
He couldn't live in real life, so he's gonna let
the doll he couldn't, which is out in free.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Absolutely, this is a very prideful queer doll. Okay, Well
that was that. Can I plave some ghost voices? It's
time for EVP or ev please okay EVP Electronic Voice Phenomenal. Yes,
(35:44):
this is like when ghost hunters capture a ghost speaking.
It's exactly that you already know. So I go to
YouTube and I find people's EVPs that they have posted
they believe they've captured a ghost saying something. I got
two of them for you today. They are from Space
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Coast Paranormal Society. I don't know where these were taken,
But what is this ghost saying? And he guesses.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Sounds like I'm saying, cheers to Brittany.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
That was Christopher the gay doll, cheers to Brittany. Well
that's not what they think. I'm going to give you
an abc D. It's one of these. Did they think
it was a year two thirsty B? Yes, I'm nervous.
(36:46):
C I have to hurt you? Or D Yes to
her queen like the ghost centers are coming through, yes
to her these other ones. Now, I'm gonna go with
A you're too thirsty.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Wait, wait, play a warmer time.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Well, I'll tell you. Yeah, you're not gonna win anything.
They believe it C have to hurt you.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
I think I could have hurt hurt, but it sounded
like more like, please don't hurt me.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Okay, wait, let's listen again. I could totally hear please
don't hurt me. Yeah, but they think it's I have
to hurt you.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
I got another one for you. This one is also
from the same place. What is this one saying? Okay, wait,
it's like a whisper.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Any guesses I heard too late for me and you?
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Okay, these are good guesses. It's too late for me
and you.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
You had your chance, and now she's gonna do a
murder suicide.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Do you think it was a Can I eat your food? B?
Can I join you? C? Can I clean your room?
Or D? Can I lick you. Okay, they think it's
one of those.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Oh can I join you?
Speaker 1 (38:37):
It's totally can I join you? Now that I know that,
but it did sound like whatever you said, yeah, I
hear it now, all right. Last thing, I just want
to know some of your thoughts on things. Yes, what
do you think about aliens? Are they real?
Speaker 2 (38:59):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Do you think they live on another planet?
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Yes? But I also think they live here as well.
Where I think in the ocean, the valley very convinced. Yeah,
on Hollywood Boulevard. I think that the fact that there's
so much undiscovered water makes me think that there are
things there even they're like similar to space. There are
parts of space so like humans can't go because it's
(39:25):
not made for us. Parts of the ocean that humans
have not been able to go to. I'm assuming whatever's
down there is alien to us.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
Oh my god, I was just watching this video that
was like they were talking about how like I think
it was Daytona Beach, Florida, And they're like, we keep
hearing that there's like these orb like things floating around
the mother shep. I'm like, what is so the aliens
are in Daytona Beach, Florida.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
I mean, I guess they want to see some formula one.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
Yeah, they want to do spring bread like a wet
t shirt contest or something orbs. I don't know the
mother shit.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
I'm like, why would they be on This.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
Is just some TikTok I saw. I don't know that
it's rue. There was no video evidence. It was just
somebody in Daytona Beach being like, they're coming, They're in
the ocean.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
I mean, I feel like there was those government hearings
where those men were like, yes, there are UFOs, there
are aliens.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
Next question, and everybody.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
Was pretty much like, okay, but can I afford food?
So I really just got swept under the road, right,
So we don't there's more people? Okay?
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Great?
Speaker 2 (40:42):
Truly? So yeah, I think that there's been enough information.
There's not a lot of specifics, but I don't think
there's a question of whether aliens exist or not. It's
just like, what are they doing? How does it pertain
to us?
Speaker 1 (40:56):
And are they hot?
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Can they make me come?
Speaker 1 (41:05):
What about? Do you believe in past lives?
Speaker 2 (41:11):
I do? I just feel like I've had this dream
ones where this young man was talking to me who
was like, hey, I was you before, and I was like,
what is this? Yeah, I think that there's like energies
that are like left over. I don't know if it's
like an exact like rebirth, but I feel like there
(41:36):
are energies that have existed pre myself.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
But did the guy have anything else to say? Uh?
Speaker 2 (41:43):
He was just kind of like telling me like about
his life and kind of how that allowed me to
kind of like skip steps. It'd be like, oh, we
if we've already experienced this, so that's why you're like
naturally better at that, and then these areas like, uh,
he died very young, so he was like, you're going
(42:05):
to be a very smart, like young person because you
have like multiple lives that have experienced that as an adult.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
So he's like that's me. Yeah, I'm the reason you're smart.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
And then he was like, but as an adult, like
you kind of like on your own. I was like what.
So that was kind of the conversation interesting. He was
given like Tom Swayer vibes. Okay, and maybe I just
watched Tom and Huck and my dreams manifested that, but
he was very much giving kind of that vibe.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
Hey, Dathan Taylor Thomas, Oh my god, okay, last one,
what do you think of hmm, my favorite one. Are
you the type of person that believes in like, well
you already kind of said de ja vou, but like
(42:58):
synchronous cities or like do you go, oh, this was
meant to be it was a sign. Do you read
into things like that or you just go, oh, coincidence.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
I do read into things, but not in like a wait,
maybe that's just me like how I justify existence. But
I feel like the things that are supposed to happen
are what's happening. That's why they're happening, And so I
think that helps me not just be like, oh, it's
like a sign. I'm like, I don't know if there's signs,
(43:27):
but there's like certain things where like you wanted to
go certain way but it goes that way, and me
thinking like huh, why did it go that way, and
then trying to and then finding within kind of the
universe of being like later on being like, oh, I
see if that would have happened, this thing never would
have happened, or if this thing happened, then that like
(43:47):
connecting the dots in that way. I feel like everything
happens for a reason, but not in like any real
time to where I'm like, oh, this is going to happen,
or like that's a I'm like, oh, I don't think
I'm that aware. I don't think the universe is telling
me anything about the future in that way. It's been
(44:11):
like I'm giving you a sign so you can see.
I'm like, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
That's what I always think about deja vu. It's like
when you feel like you've already been there or whatever.
It's confirming this is where you're supposed to be, Like
you already got like a glimpse and now you're living
it out because this is where you're supposed to go.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
Yes, like this is the aftermath of the foreshadow, like
you're in the foreshadow.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
Yeah, it's foreshadowing.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
Well guess what that's it?
Speaker 2 (44:42):
Oh? Wow, this was lovely, isn't it fun?
Speaker 1 (44:45):
We just talk about weird and.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
I don't get to talk to a lot of people
about this stuff. I don't think people would think I
am as weird as I am.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
Yeah, you're weird.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
Yeah, I really like all this stuff.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
I'm obsessed. Where do people find you? What's going on?
You're in a movie right now?
Speaker 2 (45:00):
TV show, yes, I'm in a TV show, and by
the time this comes out, I believe the finale would
have happened. So I hope you guys watched the studio
on Apple and hope you had a good time.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
Oh my god, I need to watch it. I haven't
seen it yet.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
Wait, who else is in a it's Seth Rogan's show.
So Seth Rogen, Mike Baron Holtz, Katherine Han, Catherine O'Hara.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
Oh my god. Those are two very good Catherines, m H.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
And they're very lovely. I like Catherine Han.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
What else were you doing with Kicky Palmer.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
One of them days. It's a movie that came out
earlier this year and it's on Netflix right now, So
go watch that.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
I loveer same big fan.
Speaker 3 (45:46):
Ah.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
Well, thanks for being here.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
Thanks for having me, and look out.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
For those tuttle bottoms monsters.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
Yeah they're on the loose.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
Thank you so much to Dwayne Perkins. What a fun time.
Oh I love you all, both living and dead. But
if I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't haunt
me came by. This has been an exactly right production.
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My senior producer is the startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer
is the alarming CHRISA. Chamberlain. This episode was mixed and
sound designed by the eerie Edson Choi. My guest booker
(47:08):
is the petrifying Patrick Kuttner. My theme music is by
the spine chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork by the Spooky
Vanessa Lilac, Photography by the terrifying Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced
by the chilling Karen Kilgareff, the spooky Georgia hart Stark,
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