September 29, 2025 • 49 mins
Roz is frozen with delight when the hilarious comedian and writer Josh Gondelman arrives to get spooky AND silly! It’s tee-hee terrifying as the two discuss recent developments in Annabelle’s cursed US tour, UFOs, and the time Josh almost went to a psychic!
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
What's that at bed? It's spooky, joky. I'm pretty sure
it's dead. It's coming this way. Wait a minute, I'm
ghosted Nandas.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Please Hey boo, it's me Ross and welcome to Ghosted
by ros Hernandez.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
The podcast where I talk to people that I like
about the para normal y'all. Maybe it just seems like
it's oh, it all sounds the same or whatever. I
am now in the studio for the first time in months. Okay,
I think I made it clear that I had to
record far in advance because I just completed a forty
(01:01):
six city tour where I was doing stand up comedy,
driving myself around, and now I'm back in the studio,
so right now you are listening to me in the studio. However,
I will say today's episode I had to record in
an office, my lovely manager's office in New York City
when I was there doing a show. But this intro,
(01:25):
I am recording from the studio and they should be
more up to day. And now I'll be recording weekly
again in studio. But luckily we were able to get
you some episodes these past few months. But as I
was out there traveling, I met so many of you,
(01:46):
and I appreciate all of you, especially coming to my shows.
If you know me from this show, I mean, this
is a comedy podcast, but we talk about ghosts. I
don't really talk about ghosts when I do stand up.
Appreciate you supporting me, and it's so nice to put
a face to the people that are listening to me
(02:07):
every week. I really appreciate you. And now it's Halloween time,
so you know, this is when all those new people
come scurrying in here and they're like, oh, what's this
and we welcome them and sometimes they stick around and
they become one of us. So welcome to the new people,
(02:30):
to the old people that I've been around here. Tell
everyone you know, be like, oh, I got something for
you this Halloween time. And I'm doing a lot of
Halloween this year. Because guess what she left. She went
back out to the Haunted Hotels. I as you know
(02:50):
last year. Last fall, I released three YouTube videos of
me going ghost hunting on my YouTube channel, which is
called Hernandez the Haunted Doll. And I really enjoy doing
those and I was hoping to do more more frequently.
But the main problem is I'm just very busy, and
(03:14):
that project I do one hundred percent by myself. I
literally have no one helping me at all with any
of the editing. And if you just think about it,
I'm I'm often using like three or four different cameras
and so it's like hours and hours and hours of
footage that I have to go through and i'm I'm
looking through. Is there a ghost in there? Is that?
(03:35):
What was that a reflection off of my rhinestones or
was that a spirit? It takes hours and hours and hours,
so I haven't been able to do those. Also, I
did do an episode that scared the bejeebs out of me.
It scared me so much that it actually caused me
to really put that project on the back burner. And
(03:58):
that is the first episode that I am releasing in
this new little chunk of episodes. I am recording this
like a week or two in advance, so I'm in
the process of editing it. Hopefully, if you just follow
my socials and stuff, it'll give you the most up
to date news of what's going on. But I do
plan on releasing as much as I can get done
(04:20):
this Halloween season. So Rose Hernandez the Haunted doll on YouTube. Okay,
I also have so many emails that have covied that
I just love it and I'm getting I'm getting the
kind of audience that I've always wanted, which is just
really fun people that just love to talk about this
(04:45):
and talk about the spooky side of it, but also
you know, have a good sense of humor, and I'm
getting some that are nasty. I'm getting all kinds of
ghost stories and I love it. So as always, please
send those on in to ghosted by Roz at gmail
dot com. If you want me to read it in
an intro, just write it up nicely and I will
(05:08):
hopefully read it on the show. Here's an example. This
one came from a listener named Morgan. The subject line
says Ozempic sleep demon Morgan rights. A few weeks ago
after starting Ozempic, I began experiencing unusual sleep disturbances that
left me unsettled and confused. One night, I woke up
(05:31):
on my left side, overwhelmed by an intense urge to
roll on to my back. As I complied, my left
arm lifted above my head, almost involuntarily. Without meaning to speak,
I kept repeating, I don't feel like me. In that moment,
(05:55):
I feared something was medically wrong, perhaps with my heart,
yet I couldn't identify the physical symptoms. After a short while,
the sensation faded and I chose to go back to sleep.
The very next night, I woke suddenly with the same
powerful urge to roll over, and then I saw him,
(06:20):
a silent figure standing to the left of my bed.
He was a medium build with nondescript facial features and medium, short,
dark hair. He had jolted me awake, silently urging me
(06:41):
to roll onto my back, though he never spoke. The
word nurse comes to mind when I think of the
impression he left. I believe I was caught in a
half awake, half dreaming state, able to move, but reminded
of others descriptions of sleep paralysis. I gasped and sat
(07:06):
up in bed, only to find that he had disappeared. Uhh.
Then I was met with a disturbing realization. I had
experienced this at least three times before each episode, I
woke on my left side, felt the same irresistible urge
to roll over, and sensed the figure's presence. I would
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always vaguely recall that I had experienced this already and
then fall back asleep forgetting the incidents like fleeting dreams,
But this time I was finally able to anchor these
events in my memory, most likely because my fears around
my physical health had me take note. After sharing this
(07:48):
with my doctor, I stopped the medication. Since then, the
disturbances have ceased. I searched for similar reports involving ozembic
but found little. Was this a side effect, a message
from my subconscious, or something else entirely. Whatever it was,
it felt vivid and distinct, a moment when my body,
(08:11):
mind and something beyond were inexplicably out of sync. Ooh Morgan,
Well you hear a lot about this oz empic stuff,
and these glp ones is what they're called. That is
something I had not heard. That you're gonna wake up
(08:33):
and there's gonna be a medium build man with dark
hair next to your bed. I don't know if that
makes me want to try it or not, but thank
you for sharing your experience. Okay, I got to talk
to the comedian and writer Josh Gonzelman, and we had
(08:55):
ourselves a good time. We sort of caught up on
some recent events in paranormal related weird news. So har
Is My conversation with Josh Gondleman with the show Josh Gondleman, Hello.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Hello, Roz, thank you for having me here.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Oh my god, thanks for doing this. Are you in
New York?
Speaker 3 (09:30):
I am in New York?
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Yeah, so am I right now?
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Oh that's so funny.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
I usually did this in studio in LA but I
was just doing a show last night at Stone Wall.
Oh cool, yeah, fancy, fancy, I know, legendary, and they
were telling me the people that worked there, they were
like so many ghosts here, like I bet oh, I
can only imagine do they have good stories? You know?
That was about as much as I got out of them.
(09:57):
But yeah, now I'm sure, I'm sure. Okay. Here's something
I say all the time. It's very annoying, but I
say it because I like being annoying, because it makes
my people that listen to this like try to prove
me wrong or whatever.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
I always talk about how there's not enough good New
York City ghost stories. Do you ever hear about haunted places?
Speaker 3 (10:23):
That's such a good question, and I don't. I don't
think I have any great New York City ones. All
my personal experiences with or near. The paranormal have taken
place outside of the city.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Absolutely, I mean all the other parts of America where
you know, no one can hear you scream. That's right.
I think that's the problem.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
That's right. The ghosts are drowned out by like your
neighbor watching Modern Family reruns or whatever. It is.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Totally. Although I did go to the Chelsea Hotel the
other day and that place is super haunted.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
They say, so, you've been to two super haunted New
York places, like you've been in town, but haven't had
any firstand experiences.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Now, and let me tell you this. I went to
what do they call it, Cafe Chelsea or the restaurant there,
and they serve like French food, I think, and the
lady that worked there, I think she was French. I'm
pretty sure she was French. And I was like, hey,
they say this place is haunted. Have you ever had
any stories? And she was like no, And I was
(11:29):
like yeah, but don't you know like people say that,
like have you ever heard She's like yeah, people say, but.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
I feel like if you work at a haunted place,
it is incumbent upon you to have one good story
to share.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
You got to have one, like even if it's just
I heard this thing happen one time.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Exactly, even if you don't believe it, people want you
to relay it right. They want you to go like
I heard from this one guest at the hotel that
has happened. I can't vouch for it, but this is
what I hear.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Oh yeah, this lady didn't even want to tell me that.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
She was like, throw us a bone.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
And then she was like just kind of making fun
of me. She's like, who's this weirdo with bangs coming
in here? And when she came back at the end
of the meal, she was like, so, did you have
any experiences? And I was like, I'm a lady, knock
it off. I'm going to talk about you on my podcast.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Well you die, We will see if we were experience.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Okay, wait, so what are these stories that you have?
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Okay? So I realized I've had two paranormal adjacent experiences,
both in Pennsylvania, okay, and then one when I was
a kid in Massachusetts. So like, I'm not a super
supernatural person, Like I don't feel super tapped into that
I did with an Ax years ago, went on a
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ghost tour in Gettysburg, which is supposed to be extra
ordinarily haunted. Oh of course, yeah, because a lot of
dead people there, which I imagine ups the chance of ghosts.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Sure, it makes sense. And also a very ghostly time period.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
You know.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
It's like, you know, it's the classic, Like you don't
hear about twenty ten ghosts, but you hear a lot
about you know, eighteen hundreds ghosts. Yep, everyone that died
there's still here.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Apparently, Well, they had a lot of unfinished business because
they didn't get stuff done as fast.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Yes, that's true.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Twenty ten we had email, we had smartphones, we were
getting things done, we were finishing our business.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
That's true.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
I think that's what it is. So I went in
this ghost store with an ex who I think felt
a little more tapped into the energy of the place
than I did. But we didn't have any like specific
ghost experiences, which is kind of a bummer because I
was really trying to like, you know, I think there
are two ways to go into something like that. You
can kind of go as like, okay, we'll see it
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was really like, hey, let's open our hearts and our
minds to like the possibility of this world and beyond,
and I wish it had happened more. Also in Pennsylvania,
I stayed at a hotel in the Poconos for a
gig with a bunch of other comedians, and the hotel
one of them was very, very haunted, and one of
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the comics said that her room was so like kind
of calamitous with noise and energy that she couldn't sleep
in her own room and went to another comics room
and slept in the extra bed there.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Oh god, Yeah, that's the classic me move. I have
been in that situation where I'm like, I don't like
it in here, I'm leaving, and then I go to
a different room. Wait a second, I was just thinking
about these ghost tours, and I've been traveling right now.
I'm like, I've been going all over the country, and
every once in a while i go to a place
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that has a ghost tour and I'm like, that sounds fun.
But I've been a few and I feel like it's
kind of like when you go to a movie studio
and like you might see a star. There's a good
chance that they're going to be like I'm working, Oh god,
the tour is coming, or there's you know, there's the
few that might be like who wants a picture? But
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I don't know if I want to take that chance.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Because you think that it's like you think that then
maybe like the ghosts are like not like this.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Yeah exactly, I get that this isn't how I like
to do this. I would prefer to get you when
you're when you didn't come here for me.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
It does feel like from what you hear about the
Supernatural League, they like to dictate the terms.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Exactly. It's absolutely on their terms. And I'm sure that
there's some hams that have passed on that are like, oh,
here comes, here comes the five thirty group, all right,
everyone like I'm sure.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Doing vocal exercises, like.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Yes exactly. I was just in Savannah, which is like
such a courgeous, cool place, and I thought about taking
a ghost tour there, but I was like, are probably exhausted,
Like everyone's going on that ghost tour. I need to
go in a place where they don't do ghost tours
every day, like like Gettysburg. They're probably exhausted. They're probably
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working so much.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
I feel like you need someone who will take you
on a ghost tour of like a part of a city.
That's not usually open to that, right, use like a
lot of battlefields, a lot of like historic arts districts.
You need to go to Charlotte and go like take
me on a ghost tour of the financial district exactly.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Yeah, that's a great idea.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Gave me through Bank of America headquarters or whatever.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Oh, I'm sure, I'm sure there's there's tons of spirits
with histories that we do not want to hear, but
they are important parts of American history. That's right.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Wait, I have won more too.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Oh yeah, give it to me.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
So this one is the most direct. When I was
a little kid, we still had the chicken pox parties.
I got chicken pox like a couple of years before
the chicken pox vaccine was like really available widely. So
when you had chicken pox, they would just like have
all you and your friends like hang out so everyone
gets it. Oh okay, then you would build up like immunity.
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I guess was the idea. Don't know the science behind it,
don't know if it was effective at all, but we
did that.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
That's RFK.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Yeah, it's like it feels like a very RFK coded
idea when you bring it up.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
But it was like meet kids together, but oh, the
kids together.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
What he kind of sounds like a ghost.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
He kind of sounds like when they come through a machine,
you know, and you're like, I think I hear something,
and he's like.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Oh, it's spectral energy, and you're like, now, just to
live in Kennedy. Kennedy is like any living Kennedy is
right on the line between like ready to pierce the
veil at any moment. But so we came out of
this party. It was like my kindergarten best friend's house
or one of my close friends and his sister and
my sister. He were younger, and we came out of
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their house and I looked up in the sky and
there were like four kind of swirling, cloudy figures that
were coming together and pulling apart and kind of twisting around.
But it felt very coordinated, and it like, I don't
know what it was. It is the c Again. I
don't consider myself like a person who is super in
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touch with paranormal spiritual worlds. But I saw this and
have no explanation for it, and have thought about it
my whole life, and I think like, whenever I think
about that, I go am I trying to find a
science explaining for something that there is no science to
or was I just six years old and I didn't
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know the difference between like a ghost and like a
promo light for a movie theater that was opening three
miles away, And I think about that pretty frequently.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Interesting. I mean, so you think it's more of a
ghost thing than like a UFO or something.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Oh, that's a good question. When I was a kid,
I remember seeing it and being like, that's got to
be ghosts, like for sure in my mind, as like
a five six year old, I like pinpointed it, And
then as an adult, I was like, there's probably some
kind of explanation for that, but like I'm I'm open
to the fact that there might not be some kind
of like material explanation, but could have been a UFO too.
(19:44):
It was it was four shapes moving in concert with
one another, so it didn't feel like to my kid brain,
I was like, that's not how space ships go, you know.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
I was like, they kind of hover or they zip around,
but they don't kind of do a like synchronized swimming routine.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Some of these aliens do. I don't know which planets
because it's like you see these aliens, these UFO videos,
and they're very different. And you know, I think I
think we hear as Earthlings were like, oh yeah, they
all are come from someplace whatever, the one place that
they all come from. But like sometimes you see these
ones where it's like they got a light show. There's
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other ones where there's like multiple and they're like you know,
dancing around.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
So maybe and that is what people say about like UFOs, right,
is that they move in patterns that like own aircrafts
don't move in other than you know, maybe drones can now,
but like airplanes don't.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Yeah, no exactly, So could be.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
I want to circle back for one second, because I
feel like you really got ripped off just hearing like,
oh yeah, there's lots of ghosts here. Oh can you
tell me about one? Can't not gonna?
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Well that was at stone Wall. That's because I would
I was about to start the show and we were
and they were just kind of like got it. Well,
see you Now. I'm doing this tour right now where
I'm performing at gay bars, and so many of them
in America are haunted. And that's my new idea is
I want to do a show where I'm like ghost
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hunting with the local drag queens and people that work
at the bar at all these haunted bars, because apparently
a ghost love a gay bar, and I don't blame them.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
I had never thought of that, but I think that's
such a brilliant idea.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Yeah, it's kind of like bar rescue, but you know,
ghost hunting. Okay, so let me tell you some news. Now.
We cover only the most important news here at Ghosted,
and by that I mean it's usually from the New
York Post or various British tabloids and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Perfect.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
I do have a few today that are from like
a People magazine, you know, or an entertainment weekly type vibe.
We got to talk about Annabelle. Okay, I have been
out of the studio. This is actually the first ghost
that I've recorded since I don't even remember. It's been months. Well,
(22:22):
we banked them and we've been releasing them, so I
haven't really been up to date with with my news.
But I do need to catch up a little bit
on Annabell. Let's do it now. Have you followed what's
going on with Annabelle?
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Was this Matt Rife, the comedian bought the doll.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Yes, okay, that's that's one of the things that's been
going on with this.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Okay, that's the only that's the only Annabelle news item
that I'm up to date on personally.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Yeah. So Matt Rife has has acquired her. So apparently
Matt Rife and a YouTuber who I'm not super familiar
with named Elton Cassti. So they did not purchase Annabelle.
They are the legal guardians of annabel.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
So they adopted her.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
I don't know. I guess they're basically her two dads.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
A family can look like anything. I think that's that
we're learning. Two men and a haunted doll talk about
modern family. That's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Yeah, exactly. So he made a video where he said, quote,
we are the legal guardians and caretakers of all seven
hundred and fifty haunted artifacts of the Warren Museum. You know,
of course the people from the conjuring movies and stuff.
So he says, I need to go I must go
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on the record and say we do not legally own
these items, but we are the legal guardians and caretakers
for the next five years. I will say, I think
it's a great idea. I totally support this. I have
heard that Annabel does not like crowd work, so that
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could be a problem.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
She's like, do the material. We came to see the
written material.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
I already told you what I do for a living.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
We're not fucking I'm a doll. I'm not that kind
of doll.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
I don't know what good adult she is. That's true,
but she's been really spreading her wings because for the
longest time she was kept in a cage in these
people's house, and then lately she's been on tour very
similar to me. Honestly, she has been seeing the world,
and now she belongs to Matt Rife.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
It is too like I felt like that story. I
don't know if you felt this way when you first
heard it, but it felt like there was about to
be like, Oh, this is what they were promoting with
this kind of legal maneuvering, like that he's going to
be in the next Conjuring movie or like something, you know,
And then when that didn't come, I was just like, wait,
(25:12):
so he just he's just doing this.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
I don't know. I guess he's into this kind of stuff.
I'm not sure. So the people that the Conjuring movies
are based on notoriously, like how do we say this?
I think that they did a lot of great things
because they were early in the paranormal research world, and
(25:36):
they did a lot of great things, but for money, okay,
and so I think that they definitely were business minded,
let's say, okay, and so this still belongs to like
the whole collection is still a part of the state
or whatever of this family, as are the Conjuring movies.
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And so I think it's they're like, you know what,
and he's a hot comedian. You know, it's just like
a they're collabing basically, and you know what. Great.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
I support it the crossover event of the paranormal season.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
I hope that the two of them are doing crowd
work specials together. I hope that she becomes like his
little sidekick. Good for them.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
I would love to hear like a Haunted Dolls crowd work,
because this is my problem with CrowdWork, not to get
two inside baseball of comedy. It's so often you hear
people ask the same kind of surface level questions, right right,
how do you two know each other? How long have
you been together? Are you dating? What do you do
for work? I feel like a haunted doll doesn't make
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small talk. I feel like she's going to ask the
big questions right off the bat. Yeah, you know what
I mean. What's the layout of your bedroom? Do you
fear death?
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Like?
Speaker 3 (26:56):
This is what I want to hear in crowd work,
like cut to the chase.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Yeah, And I think like Annabel is one of these
people where I do think it's time for her to
make a move, Like I think she's had the two
or three movies about her now and like this is
the real woman. This is the inventing Anna or whoever
what was that woman's name, an Adelvi. You know, it's
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like now she needs to do dancing with the stars.
We need to see more of her. It's time for
her to establish who she is. You know, we've heard
the stories. That's right, It's time for you to get
out there and spread your wings, Annabel. So if it's comedy, listen,
There's been a lot of people that are not comedians
that have gotten into comedy and a lot of them
(27:43):
have very great careers. And I am not bitter about that.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
I think if you, if you put your head down
and do the work, who cares if you're haunted doll
nepo baby.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Like you can sell tickets, you know what good for you?
Now here's an unfortunate part of the story. Have you
heard about the paranormal investigator who was on tour with
her who recently died. No, yeah, this one. Listen, there's
definitely lots of people on the internet that the reason
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that this is news, let's be honest, is because people
want to make the connection she killed them. That's hard
to say. So they have released his cause of death,
which was cardiac related. It was ruled as a natural death.
But yeah, they were touring together. He worked for the
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paranormal investigation group that the Warren family started, which is
called New England Society for Psychic Research or nests HER.
So it's unfortunate he was fifty four years old.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Oh that's sad.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
It is sad, and you know it's it's ones where
no matter what I feel like, it's now a part
of the Annabel story, like for eternity, right, it is
so interesting when it's happening in real time because if
this if we heard this story one hundred years ago
and then the doll was with a man who dies,
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like we would just be like Doll did it case closed? Yeah, okay,
this this happened a couple of weeks ago. Okay, So
it's like it's it's weird and it's uh, I guess
it's a coincidence. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
It's tough though, because like I think, it's like it's
so interesting to make these connections with the past, right,
with something paranormal or spiritual or ghostly. But it does
feel like when a man dies relatively young fifty four,
you know, you don't expect to die of a cardiac
evento fifty four, and people are like, we got to
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get to the bottom of this doll. It's like that
is a little disrespectful.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Definitely.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
It's like, I don't know this guy probab as a
family that's like, hey, you don't have to like we
had a doctor look at him. You don't have to
like take the doll apart and see if she did it,
see if his blood is on her hands.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Right right, And and that's true for all of this
stuff and me doing comedy about haunted places and whatever.
It's it is a weird thing where like time is
a part of the step. Like so many places you
go to like Gettysburg, for example, Okay, if this was
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people that died in a war last week, it would
be way different.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
So just respectful.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Yeah, for us to be like, ooh, I got my
device and we're gonna see if we could talk to them,
Like that's it's weird.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Yeah, no, I agree. But I mean I think, like
there's that expression, right, comedy equals tragedy plus time, which
is also the recipe for ghosts.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
I mean absolutely, I.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Think that's like exactly right, you know what I mean.
It makes so much sense where especially the longer ago,
something happens as long as you're as long as people
are like understanding of the realities of it, giving it
some distance and giving it the respect. I think there's
a big difference between yeah, this person they you know,
the funeral is next week and let's go tell some jokes.
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What we read some kind of spectral readout device.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Yeah, so, I mean this man worked with them. I
think I read over a decade the thing about Ed
and Lorraine Lawren. They came at all of this as Catholics,
and they were very convinced that there's demons and devils
and that Annabelle was a demon. And so that's part
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of the story is that this man was working with
what his bosses are, I don't know the philosophy of
his company or group. They believe there was a demon
in that doll, and unfortunately also died, so rest in peace.
His name is Dan Rivera Rivera.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
That's right, that's really, you know, it's it's very sad.
As as Jews I grew up not you know, not
ascribing demonology two objects. It would just be like probably indigestion,
that's what you're feeling. That's what my family would describe
if you're around a doll and you'd be like, well,
you shouldn't you shouldn't look at that spooky doll or
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that creepy doll right after you've eaten so much dairy.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
That's the problem.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
It's the day.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
That the whole conversation is also difficult because like these
people have pushed onto the world that this doll has
a demon in that totally, if somebody dies while working
with it, that is a truth. That is that. But
how were we supposed to not be like, yeah, he
was working with a demon, like.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Totally, and that's what that's what he said. Maybe you're right,
I think there is a point to that of like
when one wants to justify actions during grief, you go, oh,
he would have wanted it that way. It's like maybe
he would have wanted them to be like, hey, check
that fucking demon doll out that have been traveling around
the country when yeah, dust for doll fingerprints.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
I don't know anyway, Okay, one more important news story. Please,
did you note that machine gun Kelly thinks he might
be part alien? I did not know that, or MGK
as he goes, oh, I didn't know that.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
He I didn't know that. He he did like KFC
or it doesn't mean Kentucky Fried Chicken anymore. MGK did
at KFC.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Yeah, he did so. Apparently one of his twelve herbs
and spices is Planet Mars. He went on Watch What
Happens Live, so he was asked about his age, and
he responded with a state of confusion. He said, it's weird, dude.
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I don't know if my age. I don't know if
it exists, he said, And then Andy Cohen said, you
have a Mariah Carey connection to your age. It's very fluid.
Is that what you mean? And he said, no, I
don't know many facts about my life. So I don't know.
I'm starting to be like, if my skin rips open,
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it heals really quickly. I'm starting to be like, who's
my dad? Andy Cohen says, do you think you could
be otherworldly? And machine Gun Kelly says, I asked my
mom if there's any period of time that went missing
or a tall, slender creature, and then she says that
tracks she told me that she was abducted at one point.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Oh my gosh. So you know, I feel like the
headline focused a lot on machine Gun. Kelly thinks he
might be part extraterrestrial, when like, the real headline is
like machine gun Kelly reveals his mom was ducked in
at one point. We gotta make sure her machine and
Kelly's mom's okay.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Yeah, and also his skin heals quickly, and I guess
that maybe that's something that aliens go through.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
I'm not sure, but Wolverine from the X Men, that's
a classic feature of his. So maybe he's an X Man.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Okay, he could be one of those things, a mutant. Yeah,
good for him, good for him. Yeah, it's a great
time for people like matt Rice and Michigan Kelly. Excuse me,
m MGK I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Imagine being like rich and famous enough that you say
that on TV and people are like, sure, we should
act like that's a normal thing to say.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
I know that is part of being a big star
that I feel like there's a lot of like Okay,
sure yeah, part extraterrestrial. Sure yeah, let's good with it. Hey, Josh,
can I play you some ghost voices?
Speaker 3 (36:01):
Yeah for sure.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Okay, it's time for EVP or ev plice. Okay. So
EVP it stands for Electronic Voice Phenomenal. Okay. So what
I do is I go to YouTube and I find
people's EVPs that they have posted, which are you know,
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anytime a ghost is speaking, sometimes it's like with someone's
video camera or they're like purposefully trying to like ghost
hunt and record whatever. You'll see what I'm talking about.
So I've got two of them for you, and I
want you to tell me what you think the ghost
is saying, and then I'm going to give you an
ABCD with one of the options being what the ghost
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hunter believes the ghost is saying.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
I'm ready, okay.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
This first one was posted by RGV Paranormal Lockdown eight
to nine, which is Rio Grande Valley paranormal Oh of course.
So this was at a place called the Mercedes fire Station.
They captured a ghost saying this, what is it saying?
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That's quick?
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Okay, I think it's a hungry ghost and it's saying, lasagnya,
it's the ghost of Garfield, Garfield's ghost. Yeah, is Garfield's
still alive? What do we know about it?
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Yeah? Where has Garfield been? Maybe he and Annabelle need
to go team up to tour together. Okay, Lasagna, Well
that is not what our GV Paranormal Lockdown eight to
nine thought. Okay, did they think it was he? Back
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at cha?
Speaker 3 (37:53):
That's a funny thing for a ghost to say. We're like, hey,
look a good ghost and the ghost is like BArch.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Do they think it was b heck? Yeah? See they're
behind you or d macchiado.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
Oh it does sound like mykeiado there. Firefighters are like, hey,
I'm going on a Starbucks run you anything. I think
it's the third one.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
They're behind you. They believe it is saying.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Yeah, the ghost is just stoked.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Now that we know that, let's hear.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
I'm not sold on heck yeat.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
I know my neither and I think it's machiado. Okay,
here's one more. This is from Rolling Hill Asylum in
East Bethany, New York, and this is in a room
there that's called the Baby Room Infirmary. What is this
ghost saying?
Speaker 3 (39:01):
I guess Okay, the last interpretation is really sitting in
my head because it does kind of sound like this
ghost is going it's awesome.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Oh my god, totally it doesn't. Well, here's some options.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
Please.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Did they think it was he they got soup? B
thank god soon see it's awesome. Or d hang on
Sue maybe someone named Sue. They were telling her hang on.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
Can you play it one more time?
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Okay, you're still going with awesome.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
It does sound like they've got soup. I'm going with
they've got soup. I'm off my original thought.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Actually, your first instinct was correct. Whoa they believe it
says it's awesome. Okay, let's listen again. Yeah, I mean
be a lot of things.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
Maybe the ghost just like watched the first season of
the Sopranos and has no one to talk to about it.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Oh yeah, I mean that's what a two thousand and
four ghost would be like. Let's be honest. Okay, So
last thing, please, I just want to hear your thoughts
on all this kind of stuff. So I'm just gonna
throw out some topics and tell me if you know,
maybe you have a thought or a story or who knows,
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what what do you think about psychics?
Speaker 3 (40:30):
My friend almost convinced me to go to one recently.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Really like like at a storefront kind of a place.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
Well, there's one in my neighborhood because my friend she's like,
you gotta go to a psychic and I was like,
all right, yeah, I'll try whatever, and then we'll really
go to a psychic instead of therapy or whatever, so
like Cheryl'll give it a shot. And she was like okay,
But the one I went to most recently was like
one hundred and twenty dollars and was bad, like said
a bunch of stuff that was like verifiably untrue about
(40:59):
my life. And then I was like, oh, there's a
psychic in my neighborhood who has like a sandwich board
sign out in front of her establishment that says like
fifteen dollars, And I was like, that's an amount I
can spend on a psychic. Oh yeah, you know, I
get fifteen dollars for cocktail I've got fifteen dollars for
a psychic. But then I remembered my neighbor was enemies
(41:19):
with her, so I had to tell my neighbor would
be like, hey, why are you enemies with this psychic?
And she was like, don't hold it against her. I
think we just got into an argument on the street
one time, so like, I've never done it, but I am.
I was having like kind of a rough week and
I was at a vulnerable point and was psychic curious.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
Yeah, I mean, but were you going for a specific reason,
like were you trying to like talk to someone that's passed,
or like what were you trying.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
To I'm I'm in a position of kind of like
professional possibility. I think it is the optimistic way to
say it. Sure, And I think even a couple of
weeks ago, I was I felt a little more unsteady
with how things were maybe unfolding, and I was like, oh,
I hope this timeline materializes just right. And then my
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friend was like, you should talk to a psychic about
this and like get some kind of clarity on the
general outlook.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
Yeah. I mean I live in LA and it's like
I've been to so many of these fifteen dollars psychics,
and they know the drill because they know everyone there's
trying to make it a show business.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
That's so funny.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
So they're like, oh, I see, you gotta do something
with writing, you gotta. They're always like, you gotta make
your own stuff. You know, it's so funny.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
They alway sound like my manager.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Exactly basically the same thing. What do you think about Bigfoot?
Speaker 3 (42:45):
I'm a little skeptical about Bigfoot as a because, Okay,
so when people say Bigfoot, they make it sound like
it's one guy, which that I don't believe in, Right,
I don't think there's there's one big hairy guy that
just like trapeses around the woods.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
Yeah. I don't either.
Speaker 3 (43:04):
I'm like more open to their being species that we
don't know things about, but I do think it would
be hard. It would be hard to for a species
of that size to continue to be undetected.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
Yeah, I mean, I guess that's one of their traits
is that they don't want people to see you.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
Totally elusive and but that's so funny to me, right,
to be like, sure, I'm open to like a ghost existing,
but like a big hairy ape creature that we've never
seen before, get out of town, like as if there
aren't like hundreds of species that are similar to that.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
Okay, all right, what about we sort of touched on UFOs.
But are you someone that believes that there are other beings?
Speaker 3 (43:59):
This one I'm the most don't. I don't know that
that they visit us in aircraft, But I definitely love
the idea of there being life far away that we
can't find with our modern science. Yeah, I'm like fully
fully open to that would not surprise me if something
my friend Jamie Green wrote a really great book about
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called The Possibility of Life, like from a science perspective,
about like what that kind of imagination says about us
as humans and like what life other places could look like,
and the way we talk about it kind of being
divorced from like the actual possibilities. And I just think
that's like really lovely. I think, like, why wouldn't you
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believe in extraterrestrials?
Speaker 1 (44:42):
You know, Yeah, it's a more fun way to live,
let's be honest, totally.
Speaker 3 (44:49):
And I'm I like tend I used to be such
a gullible kid, and so like I'm I try to
be as an adult like open because I think for
reflexively for a while, I was just like, nah, it's
like a way to be and I'm like trying to
be more like maybe why not and like extraterrestrials, like
life in space is such an easy place to be,
(45:10):
Like who knows is really far away and our telescopes
only see only make things so big.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
Yeah, absolutely, Katie Barry can only get so far. That's right.
Speaker 3 (45:20):
She and she and Gail King got out there, but
they didn't like really get a good look around.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
Yeah, they didn't go out in the sticks. You know,
they were still on the main path.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
They weren't turning over rocks. I agree.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
Wow, that pretty much does it for my silly, silly,
weirdo stuff. But I want to hear about this special
that you.
Speaker 3 (45:44):
Oh, thank you. Yeah, I have a new stand up special.
It is on YouTube now. It's called Positive Reinforcement. I
recorded at the Bellhouse here in Brooklyn, which is really Yeah,
I like love that venue and this is like this
is such a little thing, but you can see it
in the special. There's like a kind of industrial lettering
that has been bolted to the walls. This says BH
(46:05):
for the Bellhouse and that used to be in the
green room, and we moved it just so that it
would be a little more visually exciting to like just
that space on the wall, and the venue was like, oh,
we love that there, and they've kept it. So whenever
I've gone to the venue since, I like get to
look at that on the wall and go like, oh,
it's so nice that like our recording made a little
(46:25):
imprint on the like ongoing future of the venue. I
would say my stand up is like a lot like this.
It's like pretty friendly, Like I would say, it's like
it's not clean, but it is friendly. It's like good
for you know, you can watch it with your kids
if you have cool kids, or you can watch it
with your parents if you have cool parents. It's like
I'm not going to get super grimy with it.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
Yeah, now that's great. Well, congratulations, Thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (46:52):
Raz That's really kind of you to say.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
And that's on YouTube.
Speaker 3 (46:56):
On YouTube. I did it with my record label that
I've worked with for a long time, Blonde Met. So
there's also an album version wherever you listen to things
that has like a little extra bonus material that we
cut out of the video. Part. But yeah, the video
specials on YouTube. In the audio you can get band
Camp or Apple Music or wherever you stream.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
Oh great, wait, I actually I just heard a review
about it.
Speaker 3 (47:18):
Oh really yeah? Oh that must have been what that
ghost in the asylum was talking about.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
Yeah, apparently it's awesome. Well anyway, thanks for doing this.
I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
Thanks so much for having me, Roz. This is really
a pleasure. Was so nice to meet you.
Speaker 1 (47:41):
Thank you so much to Josh. Thank you for listening.
I hope you can help me to spread the word
of all things ghosted this Halloween season. And I hope
you get yourself a Pumpkus spice latte, a nice sweater
in a spooky tale. I love you all, both living
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and dead. But if I didn't ask you to haunt me,
don't haunt me came back. This has been an exactly
right production. Want to share your paranormal experience on the podcast.
I read stories out loud and sometimes I'll even call you,
(48:25):
so email me at ghosted by Roz at gmail dot com.
You can send a DM or voice message to the
show's Instagram at Ghosted by Roz. Give us a follow
while you're there and follow me Roz on Instagram at
Roz Hernandez and on TikTok and Twitter at it's raz Hernandez.
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My senior producer is the startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer
is the alarming Christina Chamberlain. This episode was mixed and
sound designed by the eerie Edson Joy. My guest booker
is the petrifying Patrick Kuttner. My theme music is by
the spine chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork by the spooky
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Vanessa Lilac. Photography by the terrifying Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced
by the chilling Karen Kilgareff, the spooky Georgia hart Stark,
and the frightening Danielle Kramer. Listen to Ghosted by Roz
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get your podcasts
What's that at bed? It's spooky, joky. I'm pretty sure
it's dead. It's coming this way. Wait a minute, I'm
ghosted Nandas.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Please Hey boo, it's me Ross and welcome to Ghosted
by ros Hernandez.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
The podcast where I talk to people that I like
about the para normal y'all. Maybe it just seems like
it's oh, it all sounds the same or whatever. I
am now in the studio for the first time in months. Okay,
I think I made it clear that I had to
record far in advance because I just completed a forty
(01:01):
six city tour where I was doing stand up comedy,
driving myself around, and now I'm back in the studio,
so right now you are listening to me in the studio. However,
I will say today's episode I had to record in
an office, my lovely manager's office in New York City
when I was there doing a show. But this intro,
(01:25):
I am recording from the studio and they should be
more up to day. And now I'll be recording weekly
again in studio. But luckily we were able to get
you some episodes these past few months. But as I
was out there traveling, I met so many of you,
(01:46):
and I appreciate all of you, especially coming to my shows.
If you know me from this show, I mean, this
is a comedy podcast, but we talk about ghosts. I
don't really talk about ghosts when I do stand up.
Appreciate you supporting me, and it's so nice to put
a face to the people that are listening to me
(02:07):
every week. I really appreciate you. And now it's Halloween time,
so you know, this is when all those new people
come scurrying in here and they're like, oh, what's this
and we welcome them and sometimes they stick around and
they become one of us. So welcome to the new people,
(02:30):
to the old people that I've been around here. Tell
everyone you know, be like, oh, I got something for
you this Halloween time. And I'm doing a lot of
Halloween this year. Because guess what she left. She went
back out to the Haunted Hotels. I as you know
(02:50):
last year. Last fall, I released three YouTube videos of
me going ghost hunting on my YouTube channel, which is
called Hernandez the Haunted Doll. And I really enjoy doing
those and I was hoping to do more more frequently.
But the main problem is I'm just very busy, and
(03:14):
that project I do one hundred percent by myself. I
literally have no one helping me at all with any
of the editing. And if you just think about it,
I'm I'm often using like three or four different cameras
and so it's like hours and hours and hours of
footage that I have to go through and i'm I'm
looking through. Is there a ghost in there? Is that?
(03:35):
What was that a reflection off of my rhinestones or
was that a spirit? It takes hours and hours and hours,
so I haven't been able to do those. Also, I
did do an episode that scared the bejeebs out of me.
It scared me so much that it actually caused me
to really put that project on the back burner. And
(03:58):
that is the first episode that I am releasing in
this new little chunk of episodes. I am recording this
like a week or two in advance, so I'm in
the process of editing it. Hopefully, if you just follow
my socials and stuff, it'll give you the most up
to date news of what's going on. But I do
plan on releasing as much as I can get done
(04:20):
this Halloween season. So Rose Hernandez the Haunted doll on YouTube. Okay,
I also have so many emails that have covied that
I just love it and I'm getting I'm getting the
kind of audience that I've always wanted, which is just
really fun people that just love to talk about this
(04:45):
and talk about the spooky side of it, but also
you know, have a good sense of humor, and I'm
getting some that are nasty. I'm getting all kinds of
ghost stories and I love it. So as always, please
send those on in to ghosted by Roz at gmail
dot com. If you want me to read it in
an intro, just write it up nicely and I will
(05:08):
hopefully read it on the show. Here's an example. This
one came from a listener named Morgan. The subject line
says Ozempic sleep demon Morgan rights. A few weeks ago
after starting Ozempic, I began experiencing unusual sleep disturbances that
left me unsettled and confused. One night, I woke up
(05:31):
on my left side, overwhelmed by an intense urge to
roll on to my back. As I complied, my left
arm lifted above my head, almost involuntarily. Without meaning to speak,
I kept repeating, I don't feel like me. In that moment,
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I feared something was medically wrong, perhaps with my heart,
yet I couldn't identify the physical symptoms. After a short while,
the sensation faded and I chose to go back to sleep.
The very next night, I woke suddenly with the same
powerful urge to roll over, and then I saw him,
(06:20):
a silent figure standing to the left of my bed.
He was a medium build with nondescript facial features and medium, short,
dark hair. He had jolted me awake, silently urging me
(06:41):
to roll onto my back, though he never spoke. The
word nurse comes to mind when I think of the
impression he left. I believe I was caught in a
half awake, half dreaming state, able to move, but reminded
of others descriptions of sleep paralysis. I gasped and sat
(07:06):
up in bed, only to find that he had disappeared. Uhh.
Then I was met with a disturbing realization. I had
experienced this at least three times before each episode, I
woke on my left side, felt the same irresistible urge
to roll over, and sensed the figure's presence. I would
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always vaguely recall that I had experienced this already and
then fall back asleep forgetting the incidents like fleeting dreams,
But this time I was finally able to anchor these
events in my memory, most likely because my fears around
my physical health had me take note. After sharing this
(07:48):
with my doctor, I stopped the medication. Since then, the
disturbances have ceased. I searched for similar reports involving ozembic
but found little. Was this a side effect, a message
from my subconscious, or something else entirely. Whatever it was,
it felt vivid and distinct, a moment when my body,
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mind and something beyond were inexplicably out of sync. Ooh Morgan,
Well you hear a lot about this oz empic stuff,
and these glp ones is what they're called. That is
something I had not heard. That you're gonna wake up
(08:33):
and there's gonna be a medium build man with dark
hair next to your bed. I don't know if that
makes me want to try it or not, but thank
you for sharing your experience. Okay, I got to talk
to the comedian and writer Josh Gonzelman, and we had
(08:55):
ourselves a good time. We sort of caught up on
some recent events in paranormal related weird news. So har
Is My conversation with Josh Gondleman with the show Josh Gondleman, Hello.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Hello, Roz, thank you for having me here.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Oh my god, thanks for doing this. Are you in
New York?
Speaker 3 (09:30):
I am in New York?
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Yeah, so am I right now?
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Oh that's so funny.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
I usually did this in studio in LA but I
was just doing a show last night at Stone Wall.
Oh cool, yeah, fancy, fancy, I know, legendary, and they
were telling me the people that worked there, they were
like so many ghosts here, like I bet oh, I
can only imagine do they have good stories? You know?
That was about as much as I got out of them.
(09:57):
But yeah, now I'm sure, I'm sure. Okay. Here's something
I say all the time. It's very annoying, but I
say it because I like being annoying, because it makes
my people that listen to this like try to prove
me wrong or whatever.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
I always talk about how there's not enough good New
York City ghost stories. Do you ever hear about haunted places?
Speaker 3 (10:23):
That's such a good question, and I don't. I don't
think I have any great New York City ones. All
my personal experiences with or near. The paranormal have taken
place outside of the city.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Absolutely, I mean all the other parts of America where
you know, no one can hear you scream. That's right.
I think that's the problem.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
That's right. The ghosts are drowned out by like your
neighbor watching Modern Family reruns or whatever. It is.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Totally. Although I did go to the Chelsea Hotel the
other day and that place is super haunted.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
They say, so, you've been to two super haunted New
York places, like you've been in town, but haven't had
any firstand experiences.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Now, and let me tell you this. I went to
what do they call it, Cafe Chelsea or the restaurant there,
and they serve like French food, I think, and the
lady that worked there, I think she was French. I'm
pretty sure she was French. And I was like, hey,
they say this place is haunted. Have you ever had
any stories? And she was like no, And I was
(11:29):
like yeah, but don't you know like people say that,
like have you ever heard She's like yeah, people say, but.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
I feel like if you work at a haunted place,
it is incumbent upon you to have one good story
to share.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
You got to have one, like even if it's just
I heard this thing happen one time.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Exactly, even if you don't believe it, people want you
to relay it right. They want you to go like
I heard from this one guest at the hotel that
has happened. I can't vouch for it, but this is
what I hear.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Oh yeah, this lady didn't even want to tell me that.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
She was like, throw us a bone.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
And then she was like just kind of making fun
of me. She's like, who's this weirdo with bangs coming
in here? And when she came back at the end
of the meal, she was like, so, did you have
any experiences? And I was like, I'm a lady, knock
it off. I'm going to talk about you on my podcast.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Well you die, We will see if we were experience.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Okay, wait, so what are these stories that you have?
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Okay? So I realized I've had two paranormal adjacent experiences,
both in Pennsylvania, okay, and then one when I was
a kid in Massachusetts. So like, I'm not a super
supernatural person, Like I don't feel super tapped into that
I did with an Ax years ago, went on a
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ghost tour in Gettysburg, which is supposed to be extra
ordinarily haunted. Oh of course, yeah, because a lot of
dead people there, which I imagine ups the chance of ghosts.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Sure, it makes sense. And also a very ghostly time period.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
You know.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
It's like, you know, it's the classic, Like you don't
hear about twenty ten ghosts, but you hear a lot
about you know, eighteen hundreds ghosts. Yep, everyone that died
there's still here.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Apparently, Well, they had a lot of unfinished business because
they didn't get stuff done as fast.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Yes, that's true.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Twenty ten we had email, we had smartphones, we were
getting things done, we were finishing our business.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
That's true.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
I think that's what it is. So I went in
this ghost store with an ex who I think felt
a little more tapped into the energy of the place
than I did. But we didn't have any like specific
ghost experiences, which is kind of a bummer because I
was really trying to like, you know, I think there
are two ways to go into something like that. You
can kind of go as like, okay, we'll see it
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was really like, hey, let's open our hearts and our
minds to like the possibility of this world and beyond,
and I wish it had happened more. Also in Pennsylvania,
I stayed at a hotel in the Poconos for a
gig with a bunch of other comedians, and the hotel
one of them was very, very haunted, and one of
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the comics said that her room was so like kind
of calamitous with noise and energy that she couldn't sleep
in her own room and went to another comics room
and slept in the extra bed there.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Oh god, Yeah, that's the classic me move. I have
been in that situation where I'm like, I don't like
it in here, I'm leaving, and then I go to
a different room. Wait a second, I was just thinking
about these ghost tours, and I've been traveling right now.
I'm like, I've been going all over the country, and
every once in a while i go to a place
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that has a ghost tour and I'm like, that sounds fun.
But I've been a few and I feel like it's
kind of like when you go to a movie studio
and like you might see a star. There's a good
chance that they're going to be like I'm working, Oh god,
the tour is coming, or there's you know, there's the
few that might be like who wants a picture? But
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I don't know if I want to take that chance.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Because you think that it's like you think that then
maybe like the ghosts are like not like this.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Yeah exactly, I get that this isn't how I like
to do this. I would prefer to get you when
you're when you didn't come here for me.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
It does feel like from what you hear about the
Supernatural League, they like to dictate the terms.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Exactly. It's absolutely on their terms. And I'm sure that
there's some hams that have passed on that are like, oh,
here comes, here comes the five thirty group, all right,
everyone like I'm sure.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Doing vocal exercises, like.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Yes exactly. I was just in Savannah, which is like
such a courgeous, cool place, and I thought about taking
a ghost tour there, but I was like, are probably exhausted,
Like everyone's going on that ghost tour. I need to
go in a place where they don't do ghost tours
every day, like like Gettysburg. They're probably exhausted. They're probably
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working so much.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
I feel like you need someone who will take you
on a ghost tour of like a part of a city.
That's not usually open to that, right, use like a
lot of battlefields, a lot of like historic arts districts.
You need to go to Charlotte and go like take
me on a ghost tour of the financial district exactly.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Yeah, that's a great idea.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Gave me through Bank of America headquarters or whatever.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Oh, I'm sure, I'm sure there's there's tons of spirits
with histories that we do not want to hear, but
they are important parts of American history. That's right.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Wait, I have won more too.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Oh yeah, give it to me.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
So this one is the most direct. When I was
a little kid, we still had the chicken pox parties.
I got chicken pox like a couple of years before
the chicken pox vaccine was like really available widely. So
when you had chicken pox, they would just like have
all you and your friends like hang out so everyone
gets it. Oh okay, then you would build up like immunity.
(17:30):
I guess was the idea. Don't know the science behind it,
don't know if it was effective at all, but we
did that.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
That's RFK.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Yeah, it's like it feels like a very RFK coded
idea when you bring it up.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
But it was like meet kids together, but oh, the
kids together.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
What he kind of sounds like a ghost.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
He kind of sounds like when they come through a machine,
you know, and you're like, I think I hear something,
and he's like.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Oh, it's spectral energy, and you're like, now, just to
live in Kennedy. Kennedy is like any living Kennedy is
right on the line between like ready to pierce the
veil at any moment. But so we came out of
this party. It was like my kindergarten best friend's house
or one of my close friends and his sister and
my sister. He were younger, and we came out of
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their house and I looked up in the sky and
there were like four kind of swirling, cloudy figures that
were coming together and pulling apart and kind of twisting around.
But it felt very coordinated, and it like, I don't
know what it was. It is the c Again. I
don't consider myself like a person who is super in
(18:44):
touch with paranormal spiritual worlds. But I saw this and
have no explanation for it, and have thought about it
my whole life, and I think like, whenever I think
about that, I go am I trying to find a
science explaining for something that there is no science to
or was I just six years old and I didn't
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know the difference between like a ghost and like a
promo light for a movie theater that was opening three
miles away, And I think about that pretty frequently.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Interesting. I mean, so you think it's more of a
ghost thing than like a UFO or something.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Oh, that's a good question. When I was a kid,
I remember seeing it and being like, that's got to
be ghosts, like for sure in my mind, as like
a five six year old, I like pinpointed it, And
then as an adult, I was like, there's probably some
kind of explanation for that, but like I'm I'm open
to the fact that there might not be some kind
of like material explanation, but could have been a UFO too.
(19:44):
It was it was four shapes moving in concert with
one another, so it didn't feel like to my kid brain,
I was like, that's not how space ships go, you know.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
I was like, they kind of hover or they zip around,
but they don't kind of do a like synchronized swimming routine.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Some of these aliens do. I don't know which planets
because it's like you see these aliens, these UFO videos,
and they're very different. And you know, I think I
think we hear as Earthlings were like, oh yeah, they
all are come from someplace whatever, the one place that
they all come from. But like sometimes you see these
ones where it's like they got a light show. There's
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other ones where there's like multiple and they're like you know,
dancing around.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
So maybe and that is what people say about like UFOs, right,
is that they move in patterns that like own aircrafts
don't move in other than you know, maybe drones can now,
but like airplanes don't.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Yeah, no exactly, So could be.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
I want to circle back for one second, because I
feel like you really got ripped off just hearing like,
oh yeah, there's lots of ghosts here. Oh can you
tell me about one? Can't not gonna?
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Well that was at stone Wall. That's because I would
I was about to start the show and we were
and they were just kind of like got it. Well,
see you Now. I'm doing this tour right now where
I'm performing at gay bars, and so many of them
in America are haunted. And that's my new idea is
I want to do a show where I'm like ghost
(21:18):
hunting with the local drag queens and people that work
at the bar at all these haunted bars, because apparently
a ghost love a gay bar, and I don't blame them.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
I had never thought of that, but I think that's
such a brilliant idea.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Yeah, it's kind of like bar rescue, but you know,
ghost hunting. Okay, so let me tell you some news. Now.
We cover only the most important news here at Ghosted,
and by that I mean it's usually from the New
York Post or various British tabloids and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Perfect.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
I do have a few today that are from like
a People magazine, you know, or an entertainment weekly type vibe.
We got to talk about Annabelle. Okay, I have been
out of the studio. This is actually the first ghost
that I've recorded since I don't even remember. It's been months. Well,
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we banked them and we've been releasing them, so I
haven't really been up to date with with my news.
But I do need to catch up a little bit
on Annabell. Let's do it now. Have you followed what's
going on with Annabelle?
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Was this Matt Rife, the comedian bought the doll.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Yes, okay, that's that's one of the things that's been
going on with this.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Okay, that's the only that's the only Annabelle news item
that I'm up to date on personally.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Yeah. So Matt Rife has has acquired her. So apparently
Matt Rife and a YouTuber who I'm not super familiar
with named Elton Cassti. So they did not purchase Annabelle.
They are the legal guardians of annabel.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
So they adopted her.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
I don't know. I guess they're basically her two dads.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
A family can look like anything. I think that's that
we're learning. Two men and a haunted doll talk about
modern family. That's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Yeah, exactly. So he made a video where he said, quote,
we are the legal guardians and caretakers of all seven
hundred and fifty haunted artifacts of the Warren Museum. You know,
of course the people from the conjuring movies and stuff.
So he says, I need to go I must go
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on the record and say we do not legally own
these items, but we are the legal guardians and caretakers
for the next five years. I will say, I think
it's a great idea. I totally support this. I have
heard that Annabel does not like crowd work, so that
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could be a problem.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
She's like, do the material. We came to see the
written material.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
I already told you what I do for a living.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
We're not fucking I'm a doll. I'm not that kind
of doll.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
I don't know what good adult she is. That's true,
but she's been really spreading her wings because for the
longest time she was kept in a cage in these
people's house, and then lately she's been on tour very
similar to me. Honestly, she has been seeing the world,
and now she belongs to Matt Rife.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
It is too like I felt like that story. I
don't know if you felt this way when you first
heard it, but it felt like there was about to
be like, Oh, this is what they were promoting with
this kind of legal maneuvering, like that he's going to
be in the next Conjuring movie or like something, you know,
And then when that didn't come, I was just like, wait,
(25:12):
so he just he's just doing this.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
I don't know. I guess he's into this kind of stuff.
I'm not sure. So the people that the Conjuring movies
are based on notoriously, like how do we say this?
I think that they did a lot of great things
because they were early in the paranormal research world, and
(25:36):
they did a lot of great things, but for money, okay,
and so I think that they definitely were business minded,
let's say, okay, and so this still belongs to like
the whole collection is still a part of the state
or whatever of this family, as are the Conjuring movies.
(25:59):
And so I think it's they're like, you know what,
and he's a hot comedian. You know, it's just like
a they're collabing basically, and you know what. Great.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
I support it the crossover event of the paranormal season.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
I hope that the two of them are doing crowd
work specials together. I hope that she becomes like his
little sidekick. Good for them.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
I would love to hear like a Haunted Dolls crowd work,
because this is my problem with CrowdWork, not to get
two inside baseball of comedy. It's so often you hear
people ask the same kind of surface level questions, right right,
how do you two know each other? How long have
you been together? Are you dating? What do you do
for work? I feel like a haunted doll doesn't make
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small talk. I feel like she's going to ask the
big questions right off the bat. Yeah, you know what
I mean. What's the layout of your bedroom? Do you
fear death?
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Like?
Speaker 3 (26:56):
This is what I want to hear in crowd work,
like cut to the chase.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Yeah, And I think like Annabel is one of these
people where I do think it's time for her to
make a move, Like I think she's had the two
or three movies about her now and like this is
the real woman. This is the inventing Anna or whoever
what was that woman's name, an Adelvi. You know, it's
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like now she needs to do dancing with the stars.
We need to see more of her. It's time for
her to establish who she is. You know, we've heard
the stories. That's right, It's time for you to get
out there and spread your wings, Annabel. So if it's comedy, listen,
There's been a lot of people that are not comedians
that have gotten into comedy and a lot of them
(27:43):
have very great careers. And I am not bitter about that.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
I think if you, if you put your head down
and do the work, who cares if you're haunted doll
nepo baby.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Like you can sell tickets, you know what good for you?
Now here's an unfortunate part of the story. Have you
heard about the paranormal investigator who was on tour with
her who recently died. No, yeah, this one. Listen, there's
definitely lots of people on the internet that the reason
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that this is news, let's be honest, is because people
want to make the connection she killed them. That's hard
to say. So they have released his cause of death,
which was cardiac related. It was ruled as a natural death.
But yeah, they were touring together. He worked for the
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paranormal investigation group that the Warren family started, which is
called New England Society for Psychic Research or nests HER.
So it's unfortunate he was fifty four years old.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Oh that's sad.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
It is sad, and you know it's it's ones where
no matter what I feel like, it's now a part
of the Annabel story, like for eternity, right, it is
so interesting when it's happening in real time because if
this if we heard this story one hundred years ago
and then the doll was with a man who dies,
(29:20):
like we would just be like Doll did it case closed? Yeah, okay,
this this happened a couple of weeks ago. Okay, So
it's like it's it's weird and it's uh, I guess
it's a coincidence. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
It's tough though, because like I think, it's like it's
so interesting to make these connections with the past, right,
with something paranormal or spiritual or ghostly. But it does
feel like when a man dies relatively young fifty four,
you know, you don't expect to die of a cardiac
evento fifty four, and people are like, we got to
(29:54):
get to the bottom of this doll. It's like that
is a little disrespectful.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Definitely.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
It's like, I don't know this guy probab as a
family that's like, hey, you don't have to like we
had a doctor look at him. You don't have to
like take the doll apart and see if she did it,
see if his blood is on her hands.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Right right, And and that's true for all of this
stuff and me doing comedy about haunted places and whatever.
It's it is a weird thing where like time is
a part of the step. Like so many places you
go to like Gettysburg, for example, Okay, if this was
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people that died in a war last week, it would
be way different.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
So just respectful.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Yeah, for us to be like, ooh, I got my
device and we're gonna see if we could talk to them,
Like that's it's weird.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Yeah, no, I agree. But I mean I think, like
there's that expression, right, comedy equals tragedy plus time, which
is also the recipe for ghosts.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
I mean absolutely, I.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Think that's like exactly right, you know what I mean.
It makes so much sense where especially the longer ago,
something happens as long as you're as long as people
are like understanding of the realities of it, giving it
some distance and giving it the respect. I think there's
a big difference between yeah, this person they you know,
the funeral is next week and let's go tell some jokes.
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What we read some kind of spectral readout device.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Yeah, so, I mean this man worked with them. I
think I read over a decade the thing about Ed
and Lorraine Lawren. They came at all of this as Catholics,
and they were very convinced that there's demons and devils
and that Annabelle was a demon. And so that's part
(31:44):
of the story is that this man was working with
what his bosses are, I don't know the philosophy of
his company or group. They believe there was a demon
in that doll, and unfortunately also died, so rest in peace.
His name is Dan Rivera Rivera.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
That's right, that's really, you know, it's it's very sad.
As as Jews I grew up not you know, not
ascribing demonology two objects. It would just be like probably indigestion,
that's what you're feeling. That's what my family would describe
if you're around a doll and you'd be like, well,
you shouldn't you shouldn't look at that spooky doll or
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that creepy doll right after you've eaten so much dairy.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
That's the problem.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
It's the day.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
That the whole conversation is also difficult because like these
people have pushed onto the world that this doll has
a demon in that totally, if somebody dies while working
with it, that is a truth. That is that. But
how were we supposed to not be like, yeah, he
was working with a demon, like.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Totally, and that's what that's what he said. Maybe you're right,
I think there is a point to that of like
when one wants to justify actions during grief, you go, oh,
he would have wanted it that way. It's like maybe
he would have wanted them to be like, hey, check
that fucking demon doll out that have been traveling around
the country when yeah, dust for doll fingerprints.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
I don't know anyway, Okay, one more important news story. Please,
did you note that machine gun Kelly thinks he might
be part alien? I did not know that, or MGK
as he goes, oh, I didn't know that.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
He I didn't know that. He he did like KFC
or it doesn't mean Kentucky Fried Chicken anymore. MGK did
at KFC.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Yeah, he did so. Apparently one of his twelve herbs
and spices is Planet Mars. He went on Watch What
Happens Live, so he was asked about his age, and
he responded with a state of confusion. He said, it's weird, dude.
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I don't know if my age. I don't know if
it exists, he said, And then Andy Cohen said, you
have a Mariah Carey connection to your age. It's very fluid.
Is that what you mean? And he said, no, I
don't know many facts about my life. So I don't know.
I'm starting to be like, if my skin rips open,
(34:23):
it heals really quickly. I'm starting to be like, who's
my dad? Andy Cohen says, do you think you could
be otherworldly? And machine Gun Kelly says, I asked my
mom if there's any period of time that went missing
or a tall, slender creature, and then she says that
tracks she told me that she was abducted at one point.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Oh my gosh. So you know, I feel like the
headline focused a lot on machine Gun. Kelly thinks he
might be part extraterrestrial, when like, the real headline is
like machine gun Kelly reveals his mom was ducked in
at one point. We gotta make sure her machine and
Kelly's mom's okay.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Yeah, and also his skin heals quickly, and I guess
that maybe that's something that aliens go through.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
I'm not sure, but Wolverine from the X Men, that's
a classic feature of his. So maybe he's an X Man.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Okay, he could be one of those things, a mutant. Yeah,
good for him, good for him. Yeah, it's a great
time for people like matt Rice and Michigan Kelly. Excuse me,
m MGK I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Imagine being like rich and famous enough that you say
that on TV and people are like, sure, we should
act like that's a normal thing to say.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
I know that is part of being a big star
that I feel like there's a lot of like Okay,
sure yeah, part extraterrestrial. Sure yeah, let's good with it. Hey, Josh,
can I play you some ghost voices?
Speaker 3 (36:01):
Yeah for sure.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Okay, it's time for EVP or ev plice. Okay. So
EVP it stands for Electronic Voice Phenomenal. Okay. So what
I do is I go to YouTube and I find
people's EVPs that they have posted, which are you know,
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anytime a ghost is speaking, sometimes it's like with someone's
video camera or they're like purposefully trying to like ghost
hunt and record whatever. You'll see what I'm talking about.
So I've got two of them for you, and I
want you to tell me what you think the ghost
is saying, and then I'm going to give you an
ABCD with one of the options being what the ghost
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hunter believes the ghost is saying.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
I'm ready, okay.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
This first one was posted by RGV Paranormal Lockdown eight
to nine, which is Rio Grande Valley paranormal Oh of course.
So this was at a place called the Mercedes fire Station.
They captured a ghost saying this, what is it saying?
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That's quick?
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Okay, I think it's a hungry ghost and it's saying, lasagnya,
it's the ghost of Garfield, Garfield's ghost. Yeah, is Garfield's
still alive? What do we know about it?
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Yeah? Where has Garfield been? Maybe he and Annabelle need
to go team up to tour together. Okay, Lasagna, Well
that is not what our GV Paranormal Lockdown eight to
nine thought. Okay, did they think it was he? Back
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at cha?
Speaker 3 (37:53):
That's a funny thing for a ghost to say. We're like, hey,
look a good ghost and the ghost is like BArch.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Do they think it was b heck? Yeah? See they're
behind you or d macchiado.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
Oh it does sound like mykeiado there. Firefighters are like, hey,
I'm going on a Starbucks run you anything. I think
it's the third one.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
They're behind you. They believe it is saying.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Yeah, the ghost is just stoked.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Now that we know that, let's hear.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
I'm not sold on heck yeat.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
I know my neither and I think it's machiado. Okay,
here's one more. This is from Rolling Hill Asylum in
East Bethany, New York, and this is in a room
there that's called the Baby Room Infirmary. What is this
ghost saying?
Speaker 3 (39:01):
I guess Okay, the last interpretation is really sitting in
my head because it does kind of sound like this
ghost is going it's awesome.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Oh my god, totally it doesn't. Well, here's some options.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
Please.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Did they think it was he they got soup? B
thank god soon see it's awesome. Or d hang on
Sue maybe someone named Sue. They were telling her hang on.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
Can you play it one more time?
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Okay, you're still going with awesome.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
It does sound like they've got soup. I'm going with
they've got soup. I'm off my original thought.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Actually, your first instinct was correct. Whoa they believe it
says it's awesome. Okay, let's listen again. Yeah, I mean
be a lot of things.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
Maybe the ghost just like watched the first season of
the Sopranos and has no one to talk to about it.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Oh yeah, I mean that's what a two thousand and
four ghost would be like. Let's be honest. Okay, So
last thing, please, I just want to hear your thoughts
on all this kind of stuff. So I'm just gonna
throw out some topics and tell me if you know,
maybe you have a thought or a story or who knows,
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what what do you think about psychics?
Speaker 3 (40:30):
My friend almost convinced me to go to one recently.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Really like like at a storefront kind of a place.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
Well, there's one in my neighborhood because my friend she's like,
you gotta go to a psychic and I was like,
all right, yeah, I'll try whatever, and then we'll really
go to a psychic instead of therapy or whatever, so
like Cheryl'll give it a shot. And she was like okay,
But the one I went to most recently was like
one hundred and twenty dollars and was bad, like said
a bunch of stuff that was like verifiably untrue about
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my life. And then I was like, oh, there's a
psychic in my neighborhood who has like a sandwich board
sign out in front of her establishment that says like
fifteen dollars, And I was like, that's an amount I
can spend on a psychic. Oh yeah, you know, I
get fifteen dollars for cocktail I've got fifteen dollars for
a psychic. But then I remembered my neighbor was enemies
(41:19):
with her, so I had to tell my neighbor would
be like, hey, why are you enemies with this psychic?
And she was like, don't hold it against her. I
think we just got into an argument on the street
one time, so like, I've never done it, but I am.
I was having like kind of a rough week and
I was at a vulnerable point and was psychic curious.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
Yeah, I mean, but were you going for a specific reason,
like were you trying to like talk to someone that's passed,
or like what were you trying.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
To I'm I'm in a position of kind of like
professional possibility. I think it is the optimistic way to
say it. Sure, And I think even a couple of
weeks ago, I was I felt a little more unsteady
with how things were maybe unfolding, and I was like, oh,
I hope this timeline materializes just right. And then my
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friend was like, you should talk to a psychic about
this and like get some kind of clarity on the
general outlook.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
Yeah. I mean I live in LA and it's like
I've been to so many of these fifteen dollars psychics,
and they know the drill because they know everyone there's
trying to make it a show business.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
That's so funny.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
So they're like, oh, I see, you gotta do something
with writing, you gotta. They're always like, you gotta make
your own stuff. You know, it's so funny.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
They alway sound like my manager.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Exactly basically the same thing. What do you think about Bigfoot?
Speaker 3 (42:45):
I'm a little skeptical about Bigfoot as a because, Okay,
so when people say Bigfoot, they make it sound like
it's one guy, which that I don't believe in, Right,
I don't think there's there's one big hairy guy that
just like trapeses around the woods.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
Yeah. I don't either.
Speaker 3 (43:04):
I'm like more open to their being species that we
don't know things about, but I do think it would
be hard. It would be hard to for a species
of that size to continue to be undetected.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
Yeah, I mean, I guess that's one of their traits
is that they don't want people to see you.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
Totally elusive and but that's so funny to me, right,
to be like, sure, I'm open to like a ghost existing,
but like a big hairy ape creature that we've never
seen before, get out of town, like as if there
aren't like hundreds of species that are similar to that.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
Okay, all right, what about we sort of touched on UFOs.
But are you someone that believes that there are other beings?
Speaker 3 (43:59):
This one I'm the most don't. I don't know that
that they visit us in aircraft, But I definitely love
the idea of there being life far away that we
can't find with our modern science. Yeah, I'm like fully
fully open to that would not surprise me if something
my friend Jamie Green wrote a really great book about
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called The Possibility of Life, like from a science perspective,
about like what that kind of imagination says about us
as humans and like what life other places could look like,
and the way we talk about it kind of being
divorced from like the actual possibilities. And I just think
that's like really lovely. I think, like, why wouldn't you
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believe in extraterrestrials?
Speaker 1 (44:42):
You know, Yeah, it's a more fun way to live,
let's be honest, totally.
Speaker 3 (44:49):
And I'm I like tend I used to be such
a gullible kid, and so like I'm I try to
be as an adult like open because I think for
reflexively for a while, I was just like, nah, it's
like a way to be and I'm like trying to
be more like maybe why not and like extraterrestrials, like
life in space is such an easy place to be,
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Like who knows is really far away and our telescopes
only see only make things so big.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
Yeah, absolutely, Katie Barry can only get so far. That's right.
Speaker 3 (45:20):
She and she and Gail King got out there, but
they didn't like really get a good look around.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
Yeah, they didn't go out in the sticks. You know,
they were still on the main path.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
They weren't turning over rocks. I agree.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
Wow, that pretty much does it for my silly, silly,
weirdo stuff. But I want to hear about this special
that you.
Speaker 3 (45:44):
Oh, thank you. Yeah, I have a new stand up special.
It is on YouTube now. It's called Positive Reinforcement. I
recorded at the Bellhouse here in Brooklyn, which is really Yeah,
I like love that venue and this is like this
is such a little thing, but you can see it
in the special. There's like a kind of industrial lettering
that has been bolted to the walls. This says BH
(46:05):
for the Bellhouse and that used to be in the
green room, and we moved it just so that it
would be a little more visually exciting to like just
that space on the wall, and the venue was like, oh,
we love that there, and they've kept it. So whenever
I've gone to the venue since, I like get to
look at that on the wall and go like, oh,
it's so nice that like our recording made a little
(46:25):
imprint on the like ongoing future of the venue. I
would say my stand up is like a lot like this.
It's like pretty friendly, Like I would say, it's like
it's not clean, but it is friendly. It's like good
for you know, you can watch it with your kids
if you have cool kids, or you can watch it
with your parents if you have cool parents. It's like
I'm not going to get super grimy with it.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
Yeah, now that's great. Well, congratulations, Thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (46:52):
Raz That's really kind of you to say.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
And that's on YouTube.
Speaker 3 (46:56):
On YouTube. I did it with my record label that
I've worked with for a long time, Blonde Met. So
there's also an album version wherever you listen to things
that has like a little extra bonus material that we
cut out of the video. Part. But yeah, the video
specials on YouTube. In the audio you can get band
Camp or Apple Music or wherever you stream.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
Oh great, wait, I actually I just heard a review
about it.
Speaker 3 (47:18):
Oh really yeah? Oh that must have been what that
ghost in the asylum was talking about.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
Yeah, apparently it's awesome. Well anyway, thanks for doing this.
I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
Thanks so much for having me, Roz. This is really
a pleasure. Was so nice to meet you.
Speaker 1 (47:41):
Thank you so much to Josh. Thank you for listening.
I hope you can help me to spread the word
of all things ghosted this Halloween season. And I hope
you get yourself a Pumpkus spice latte, a nice sweater
in a spooky tale. I love you all, both living
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and dead. But if I didn't ask you to haunt me,
don't haunt me came back. This has been an exactly
right production. Want to share your paranormal experience on the podcast.
I read stories out loud and sometimes I'll even call you,
(48:25):
so email me at ghosted by Roz at gmail dot com.
You can send a DM or voice message to the
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My senior producer is the startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer
is the alarming Christina Chamberlain. This episode was mixed and
sound designed by the eerie Edson Joy. My guest booker
is the petrifying Patrick Kuttner. My theme music is by
the spine chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork by the spooky
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Vanessa Lilac. Photography by the terrifying Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced
by the chilling Karen Kilgareff, the spooky Georgia hart Stark,
and the frightening Danielle Kramer. Listen to Ghosted by Roz
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