August 4, 2025 • 52 mins
This week, Roz is ecstatic for the arrival of comedian, actor, writer, and ICONIC host of The Best Show, Tom Scharpling! Amongst the shadows and swaying cobwebs, the two discuss the Jersey Devil, sleep paralysis, and Tom’s spooky visit to Salem!
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
What's that at the bed. It's spooky, joky. I'm pretty
sure it's dead. It's coming this way. Wait a minute, help,
I'm ghosted. I'm nandaz Pllease hey boo, It's me Rose
(00:31):
and welcome to Ghosted by Raz Hernandez, the podcast where
I talk to people that I like about the paranormal
I have on the pod today Tom Sharpling, who has
been doing the best show for twenty five years. He's
(00:51):
like one of these people that's been podcasting before there
was even the name podcasting. He's great. I can talk
to him about anything, and such a sweet person and
so funny. Before we get to that, let me read
you a story. This one comes from Bianca. Bianca writes,
I live in Toronto, Ontario. Ah quit bragging, Bianca, but
(01:17):
I grew up in Niagara Falls, which is surprisingly rich
in paranormal activity. I have a few good encounters. But
I think you might be interested in my Hopkins Tomb story.
O good. I'm twenty nine now. But when I was
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in elementary school, my friend and I decided to do
our Historica Bristol board project on Hopkins's tomb. There are
many stories that circulated about the haunted tomb, but the
one in this page under the curse section involved a
distant family member of mine. Okay, Bianca has given me
(02:03):
a link about this place called Hopkins's Tomb. It looks
spooky oooooo. In this it talks about a distant family
member of Bianca who was cursed. He lost his leg
in a freak motorcycle accident after sticking it in the tomb.
He stuck his leg in the tomb, and then he
lost his leg in a motorcycle accident. AnyWho lots of
(02:27):
eerie deaths and lingering curses from this tomb, okay, I'll
believe you. In short, the local legend is that if
you run around the tomb three times, you'll summon the
supernatural entity. My friend and I went with her mom
to take some pictures for our project. Her mom was
in the car. The thick energy surrounding the tomb hangs
(02:50):
in the air. There's a small fence about knee height
surrounding the tomb. After taking our photos, we elected to
run around the tomb twice. After making our second lap,
we laughed breathlessly and decided to run another halfway around,
making it almost three times. Very cheeky, but just as
(03:13):
we kissed that two point five lap finish line, I
still have chills when I write this. I felt a
thick gust of wind blow the hair in front of
my face, and the loudest, deepest inhuman voice yell come
in side. It felt so low it shook the ground.
(03:38):
When her mom brought her an eye to my house,
her mom came in because she was so shaken up.
She explained to my mom that she was watching us
do it, and said that she saw the exact moment
it happened the wind on an otherwise still day, and
both of our faces went white as we heard the
exact same thing at the exact same time. We both,
(04:02):
without consulting one another, ran towards the car, hopping the
knee height fence, and nearly threw up from fear. We
naturally grew apart with age as we went through high
school and beyond, but to this day we will message
each other every now and then to reflect on this
experience we had. Yeah, it sounds pretty scary, Bianca, I'm
(04:24):
glad you didn't get cursed. Ooh, thanks for sending that.
As you're right now, I'm on tour right now, doing
comedy a gay bars in America. Rosernandez tour dot com
for all those dates. Okay, here's my conversation with Tom
Sharpling and with the show. I don't believe it. We've
(04:49):
got an icon in the world of talking on a microphone,
Tom Sharpling.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Hi, icon.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
But you're not a stand up comedian, no, which you
should be. You're one of the funniest people that ever exists.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
That's so kind of you to say. But I just
can't do that. I don't have that in me.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Are you always seated when you're on the microphone? Pretty
much of sitting and talking on a microphone? Yeah, Now
that that makes it sound like you're not doing anything
or something.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Well, I mean I'm not standing. It's not that not
that hard to stand.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Listen, Tom Sharp. Now I'm talking to the people listening. Okay,
Just I have to check in to make sure that
they're still listening anyways, because sometimes I just start talking
and then the numbers go down.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Numbers never go down. With you, Tom.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Sharpling, how are you? I'm pretty good.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
It is exciting.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
I've been wanting you on here for so long. Yeah,
we've had your double threat other half. Yes, what's her
name again? Klown Julie Kloud's name.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
You didn't forget it?
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Of course I love her. She's been on We've wanted
to have you for forever. It's hard to get you.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Well, now you got me. You tell me what to do.
Now you say jump and I'll say how high.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
We were just talking before we recorded about Liberaci. Yeah,
did you know that Debbie Gibson got haunted by Liberaci's piano? No,
these are the kind of things I know.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Yeah, I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
This is what this is what people come to me for.
So there was an episode of my favorite TV show
of all time, Celebrity Ghost Stories. Sure, have you ever
seen that?
Speaker 2 (06:41):
I think I've seen it.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
I think it's been on for like ten years.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I think, so, yeah, it's so good.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Okay, So I can't I can't necessarily remember, but I
believe she bought Liberaci's like mirrored piano, okay, and like
one time a tile fell off, she was like this, Liberaci.
I think that's how No, I think I think it
was a better story than that, but it was basically
it had something to do with stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Okay. I mean I would say, look, I'm not here
to debunk Debbie Gibson's experience. Deborah Gibson, of course, but
if you go by somebody's old piano, eventually things are
gonna start falling off of it.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
You're no fun.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
No, I am fun. I believe in things like you
wouldn't even imagine. What do you believe in?
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Ghosts?
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Sure? I believe that there's stuff going on.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
You just went to Salem. I did do you do
anything ghosty?
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Oh that's the only thing to do. There's there's literally
nothing there that's not ghosty.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
I have never been there.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
You would love it is witches.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Witches are there. The fact that I have never been
to Salem does not feel right, but it's true. And
I am doing this road trip and I'm doing Province
Sound in Boston. I don't have time, but I wanted
to try to go to Salem or you are those
back to back literally back to back.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Yeah, I don't know how you could squeeze that in
not gonna be able to Everybody has said go off season, though,
so when you go to Salem, and it's when not if.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Don't go in October, that's what they say.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Because that's like going to Times Square on New Year's
Eve where it's just nothing. Everybody's there and it's it's
like you're living in the movie You'll be Halloween.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Mm, which one was that again?
Speaker 2 (08:36):
I was the Adam Sandler movie filmed in Salem. The
movie hocus Pocus, of course filmed in Salem, and you
think it was Star Wars the way they talk about
it in Salem. They're just like, well, of course this
building you recognize from from hocus Pocus.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
You're not a hocus Pocus.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
I could be a fan of the movie hocus Pocus,
but I didn't memorize every location to where I'm gonna
faint if I see it in real life. We did
a tour, a walking tour through, so we did so
many things like that. Fine, there was a kid on
this tour, this teenager, and she was so into hocus
(09:25):
Pocus and could answer any question, and the tour guide
was starting to get a little irked that this kid
knew so much about hocus Pocus because she was she
would ask a question, she'd be like, so, does anybody
know why hocus Pocus a Halloween movie came out in
the summer and was not released in October, and this
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kid started explaining so much about hocus Pocus, and the
tour guide was getting irked and said, that's a great guess.
It was like, well, no, this is not a guess.
This kid was on guessing. This kid knows the facts
about hocus Pocus. And interestingly enough, or not interestingly enough,
the The Nightmare Before Christmas was coming out in October,
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and they were both Disney properties. So Disney didn't want
to have two Halloween movies in competition with each other,
and so they moved hocus Pocus to the summer.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
And they both are very memorable.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Yeah. And the other thing that made me a little
sad was they're like, well, then they did hocus Pocus too,
and that did not shoot in Salem. And I have
exciting news. They're making hocus Pocus three and hopefully it'll
shoot in Salem. And it's not gonna shoot scheduling.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
We're hoping.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Man Like they were just like, maybe hocus Pocus is
coming back. I just like they never go back.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Well, the best scene in hocus Pocus is Gary and
Penny Marshall. They play husband in life, which is very
little weird. Yeah, and he's dressed like the devil because
it's Halloween and then for some reason, I guess the Sanders'
sisters like worship the devil. That's like the one time
we get a glimpse of their devil worship. I guess,
(11:11):
I don't know. It's like we don't we really ever
talk about it any other time, but it's like he
has devil horns on and they're like master, it's so good.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Though, who has the guts to say, Hey, we were
thinking that you could be married to your brother in
this Like you know your brother, what if you were
married to him in this movie? Like that's the weirdest
thing to ask out loud. Yeah, that would be one.
That's like who's gonna ask exactly?
Speaker 1 (11:41):
What about ghosts?
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Though?
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Like for you, is that something like so you say
you think it's possible, have you experienced it?
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Not anything that I could really uh dig in on
and say this proves it to me. I just believe
in energy and there's things swirling around and we don't
have answers for things.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Aren't you a sleep paralysis person?
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Oh yeah, huge, huge sleep paralysis person.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Do you see things?
Speaker 2 (12:09):
I haven't had it happen in a long time, which
I think I'm just jinxing myself now now I'm going.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
To have you know, they say, if you talk about it,
it makes it happen.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Are you a sleep paralysis person?
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Ross, I've never had sleep paralysis.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Well, the night is young.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
I that is my biggest fear.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
It's horrible.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
But you've never seen like an old hag lady crawling
on top of you or like stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Not no, nothing like that. It's you know how people say, oh,
I've had it happen five times to me. I've had
it happen eight times. I've had it happen over a
hundred times to me. Wow, easily it would happen to
me all the time.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
To a point where now when it happens, you're like, Okay,
I know what this is. It is fine.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Yeah, it hasn't happened in years of whatever happened in
my life where I made changes, it it stopped, and
I just I don't want it to come back. But
it's the worst thing you take, and like you took
a like if you dozed off in the middle of
the day, then suddenly you're in your body. You know
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you're awake, but you're not awake, and you're screaming like
screaming to wake up, like I need to get myself
out of this state. And you're absolutely doing everything you can,
and then the person who just sees you in real
life just you're just going eh. But in your mind
you're screaming at the top of your lungs and shaking
(13:42):
and trying to just wake up. It's the worst.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
That's a nightmare.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
That's I mean, literally, it's the worst.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
I did some research, not about sleep paralysis at all.
I did some research about your home state of New Jersey. Yeah,
urban legends, a.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Lot of them.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
I love a good urban legends. Do any come to
mind for you of New Jersey?
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Well, I mean the big one is the Jersey Devil.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
That's right, not to be confused with Gary Marshall, who's
the Salem Devil. Yes, tell me about the Jersey Devil,
because that's not one that I did research on. But
I'm like, she's that girl.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
I believe, and I'm not as up to speed as
I probably should be on the Jersey Devil. Jersey Devil's
down in the Pine barrens, which is at the bottom
of the state, just like this giant, huge wooded area
that time. Famously, there's an episode of the Sopranos that
takes place in the pine barrens where they go to.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
It's the Jersey Devil in that.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Kill a guy. Now, the Jersey Devil's not in it,
but the pine barrens are terrifying because it's just vast woods.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
What about Jersey Mike?
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Jersey Mike is he's my Jersey devil. He's probably my
Jersey Angel actually.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
But what is it? Jersey Devil is like some kind
of it's a cryptid. What does it look like? I
need to look this up.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
I think he's like a good old fashioned.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Oh okay, so like bat wings uh huh, and like
maybe walks on two legs as well.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
I think so, yeah, okay, almost like.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
A mothman, but not quite a mothman. He's like a
Jersey version of a mothman. Well, what about the pig Lady.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
I don't know about the pig Lady. I mean I've
met a few into Jersey. I didn't know there was
just a lady.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Oh, there's the pig lady.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Well, tell me about the.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Page's earned the title of the pig Lady. Well, some
of the research I got is from a website called
farms dot com.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Okay, farms, yep, is that where we're at on the
show Ron we're hitting up farms dot com for content.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Yes, this is where we started. Okay, this is what
we do here. Okay, So it says Roycefield Road, which
is in rural New Jersey, is known to some locals
as pig Lady Road. The street's unofficial name comes from
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the belief that you can summon a woman with a
pig's head by chanting pig lady three times during the night.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
That would actually scare me.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
It's also how you can summon me on grinder. Okay.
So Weird New Jersey dot Com or Weird NJ dot
com is a great website because there is a lot
of weird stuff in New Jersey. And on their website,
I mean, it's no farm, but what is and weirdnjay
(17:05):
dot com there's like testimonials of people that have gone
to pig Lady Road.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Some of what they say here on this website is
that she was basically.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Not a looker and her great personality.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Well, I think that's the problem. She also did not
live personality, didn't have much going for her, and some
say that she had the face of a pig put
on her by her father. Here it says, have you
ever heard of the pig lady? This is all I know.
(17:44):
This is from someone named John R. A husband came
home from work and decapitated his wife. Oh my god.
When the police got there, they never found her missing head.
Now you're supposed to go down this road off of
Royce Field Road in.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Hillsboro, Hillsboro, I know Hillsboro.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
It says Doris Duke's property.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Yeah, Doris Duke was the incredibly wealthy heiress who owned
I believe it's the Duke University.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Is oh really yeah, Well, she's also owns the property
that of pig lady wrote Apparently.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
There are acres upon acres of woodland that is like
owned by the Doris Duke in New Jersey that has
been preserved.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Well, it says if you honk your horn at night,
her glowing head will appear. That's what people say. Another
person said, this one is from somebody named They're calling
themselves the Pig Hunter, they said. The story goes that
in the early nineteen hundreds, when Hillsboro was all farms
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in vast woods, there lived a lady who resembled a
pig she lived out, so they're just going with the
story that she was just born looking pig like. She
lived on a farm, secluded from civilization because as a
child she was picked on and teased constantly, so she
vowed never to have to deal with that kind of
torture ever again. One day, as she was gardening, a
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young boy came along with two of his friends and
noticed the pig lady gardening. The boys made jokes about
her hideous pig face and vowed to go back later
that night and place a slaughtered pighead on her doorstep.
They went that night and were never heard from again.
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Years later, as Hillsborough grew in population, the missing teenager's
bones were found where her garden once was. Who legend
has it that in order for her to come out,
you must annoy her by flashing your lights, screaming big lady,
and beeping the horn. Then you must leave someone from
your group on the street and drive off without looking back.
(20:00):
Absolutely not no way. I know. I would definitely be
one of the people that stayed in the car. Once
you get to the end of the road, you turn
around and go back, and you see what your friend
has witnessed the whole drive from leaving your friend and
coming back takes ten minutes. Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
So you leave your friend for ten minutes.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
And then she goes on or whoever this is, the
pig hunter goes on to say that they did this,
and they went back to get their friend and they're like, Jen,
where are you? And she was crying in a bush.
And then when they went to get her and brought
her back in the car, she was covered with scratches
on her arms, legs and face. No big hoof scratches.
(20:44):
Oh wait, no, maybe she does human hands, but just
a pig face. I love it. So next time you're
in Jersey time, Yeah, I got a place for you,
pig lady road.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Well, I'll say one thing. I'm not the one getting
out of the car.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
No, it's not happening. What's How about the Herbert Appleby House.
It's haunted by mud slide.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
And I don't know about this. I know about Appleby's
in New Jersey. I've been to those, and I think
they probably make mud slides at the bar.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
The Herbert Appleby House.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
The bar in Appleby's is its own horror. Have to
hang out there?
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Oh my God, this is one of Middlesex County's most
haunted pre Civil War homes.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
I grew up in Middlesex County.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
You know the Herbert Appleby House. Now, supposedly this is
from tap into dot Net. Supposedly, this nineteenth century residence
at one six sixty one Main Street, near Spotswood's border, Okay,
(21:56):
converted to the Alice Appleby Devo lib in nineteen forty six.
Alice Appleby was the daughter of Herbert Appleby. Independent paranormal
investigator Karen Temper from East Brunswick's New Jersey Ghost Organization.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
These towns are all way too close to where I
actually grew up. Ross. I don't like any of this.
I feel lucky I got out alive. The way you're
painting New Jerseys, I was apparently, I was living in
a Everything was haunted around me.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
This person saw a shadow figure who stood up from
the couch and walked out of the library room. Also,
a living caretaker claimed he awoke to find the apparition
of two young girls at his bedside.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
I want nothing to do with any of this.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Okay, I'll give you one more. Here's another New Jersey one,
the hooker Man.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Well I know those agn pig hunter hooker Man, I
knew about all these are like characters in Bruce Springsteen's side.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
The hooker Man. Oh my god, you ever you know
Franken Hooker, You've been in your trauma era. I feel like,
isn't it a trauma movie?
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Or I think Franken Hooker is a proper trauma.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
It's like it's like it's distributed. Well, this is hooker Man, Okay,
and hooker Man, it says. This is from Weird New
Jersey dot com. Again, it says in New Jersey. The
hooker Man legend is that a railroad worker who lost
his arm in a train mishap over a century ago.
(23:34):
Some say that he was a night watchman on the
Bartley Flanders Spur one night, while signaling the oncoming train
to stop, he fell and lost consciousness. When he awoke,
he realized the train had run him over and cut
off his arm. Other stories say that he lost his
arm when he fell off the train. Now I don't
(23:57):
understand why he's called the hooker Man. Anyway, you have
a hook, it says, now, fitting with a hook to
replace his lost hand. The hooker Man's spirit appears on
the tracks carrying a lantern looking for his lost arm.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Okay, is it a hand or is it an arm?
We got to get this hooker man thing straight.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
This is yeah, this is actually, this is This is
the conversation that needs to be had. There's a person
on where New Jersey dot Com named Paul tupac Zeuski
literally spelled like tupac Zeuski. Paul tupac Zuski says, back
in the nineteen sixties and seventies, the hooker Man's sight
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was a big teen attraction. A friend of mine would
go down to see the lights, and on hot summer
nights there would always be a crowd of fifteen to
thirty teen's. The hooker Man, he said, generally appeared right
before a train was to pass by. Usually it appeared
as a yellowish hazy ball that bobbed down the tracks.
(25:06):
One particular night, however, he became a true believer. As
a train approached at its ten mile per hour speed
on this somewhat rickety line, the hooker man light appeared
about thirty feet down the tracks from where we were standing.
As the train got closer, the light moved down the
track slowly as well. Just before the train reached the group.
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The engineer dimmed his headlight for a second and then
turned it on again at its highest brightness for about
a second. In the rays of the bright light, the
group saw a translucent figure of a railroad worker in
overalls with one arm, and that arm was waving a
lantern side to side. This man's been holding onto this
(25:52):
story for a long time. Yeah, this is why we
gotta keep baby boomers off the internet. That's pretty much
the research i'pe done on New Jersey. Can show you
a haunted eBay doll? Yeah, please, it's time for the
dolls are living Tom Yeah, I go to eBay dot com,
(26:17):
I type and haunted doll. This one kind of reminded
me of you.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Oh, I can't wait to see this. This is I'm
sure this is gonna be so flattering, domb.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
I think the world of you because this one is uh,
he's into prank phone.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Calls, okay, which I which is throughout my life up.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
And that's the only thing that reminds me of you
with this one. With this one's name is Charlie.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
He's going for twenty one dollars and fifty nine cents.
Very random number. Okay, geeha, show us Charlie, you got it,
roz boh, well, I can see the resemble.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
I can see why that would remind you of me.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Uh, I don't like this. But Charlie comes with a
tongue hanging out. Yeah. This person staged a photo of
Charlie playing in the grass with little overalls on.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Yeah, I'm not crazy about Charles. That tongue looks like
it's trying to escape.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Yeah, that hard plastic tongue just hanging out of its mouth.
And those eyebrows, the eyebrows are nobody actually has eyebrows
like that. Dolls do, Okay, So these all come with bios. Yeah, Charlie,
he was twenty two when he passed. So just so
(27:43):
you know, Tom, we're supposed to believe that a real
living human lived and died and then ended up in
this doll and now it's for sale on eBay.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Of course. He was full of life, always up to something.
A natural prank stir. He had a knack for making
everyone around him laugh, often at the most unexpected moments,
from hiding whoopee cushions in the most inconvenient places to
pulling elaborate tricks on his friends. Charlie thrived on the
(28:16):
art of the practical joke. He's one of these trickster types.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Yeah, like demons.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Oh try these uh these peanuts, these peanut.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Brittle un unscrew the capumb peanut.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Going back to my father being a clown. That's why
I have not eaten peanut brittle. I don't trust it.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Okay, because of that.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
If somebody says, would you like to try some peanut brittle,
I run because I know what that means. A snake's
gonna flash my face and I don't like that. Or
if somebody says, smell this flower, No, you don't do that.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Who are you hanging out with that? These are even
options all the time, like, hey, you want some peanut
brittle rons? And when's the last time you had peanut brittles?
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Seven years older? Every day?
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Okay, fair enough.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
People just come up to me, they say, you want
some peanut.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
But if I had a pack of gum and said here,
pull a stick out.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
I've learned my lesson on that one. No matter how stanky,
my breath is not grabing unless I have control of
the gum.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
I understand that completely.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Because if you don't know this people, and this is
a real thing. You have to be careful watch where
you're getting gum from because there there could be a
spring on it, and that.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Hurts, especially when you don't expect it. It's like a
stick in your finger in a mouse trap.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
It is like that. Yeah, Okay, So basically that's that's
who Charlie was. Charlie was that kind of person. So
it says here these are some of the things you'll
experience if you buy Charlie. Unpredictable laughter. I'm used to that.
The sound of laughter, loud, jarring, and often inappropriately timed.
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Oh that, nothing's worse than when some laughs during your punchline,
a mischievous cackle that's filled with irreverence. Okay, When Charlie
feels particularly playful, lights in the room will turn on
and off in rapid succession. Sometimes the lights will blink
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to the beat of a rhythm, almost as if Charlie
is enjoying a private joke at the expense of his surroundings.
This guy just never quits, and that's the thing. You
got to turn it off sometime.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
No, Charlie sounds like he would be like an improv
It sounds like Charlie B level three and you see me,
you see.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Oh you want to suggestion? How about you go in
a trash and Charlie, Yes, that's a suggestion from the audience. Exactly,
stay there.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
First word, last word? How about we just do last word.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Charlie, zip zap z more like help me out, Tom,
more like, uh, we're not improv I don't. This is
why why you're supposed to damn it. This is what
you're supposed to take.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Going to be doing level one classes? What would it
take for you to do improv classes with me?
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Oh my god, I'm looking right now. Hang on, you see.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
To farm dot com instead of this.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
So farm dot com is offering h improv classes. They
are offering pig improv. Tom, let's do improv class together.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Who do you have for level one? Oh? Pig, pig
lady was my teacher. Level two is going to be
hooker man. It's all the that should be your improv school.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Oh? Absolutely, okay. Improv one on one starts the twenty third.
There's openings, if you can believe it, there's opening.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
I don't want to even joke about this.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Now Wednesdays three pm to six.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
I'm so busy.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Oh you're not, No, Tom make time for this.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
No, I guess I'm doing him. I guess I'm a
level one improv student. Now.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
I took improv during the pandemic over Zoom because I
was I was like, I need to do something. I
took the Groundlings. The hardest thing I've ever done in
my life.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Really over im over zoom. It would be hard.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
It was so hard. They were constantly like doing different
kind of voice or whatever. And I was like, I'm
kind like, I like don't to that kind of stuff.
I'm not that kind of like person. I don't do
like Oh and now I am a lady that works
out of store, Like, I can't do that anyway. Charlie
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cud You also sometimes hear Train because of Charlie, because
it seems like in his final moments he was hit
by a train. The trains the Hooker Man game and
got him. You know what, I was just thinking about
how iconic of a Halloween person you are.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Yeah, that's a big thing for me and Julia is
uh my wife, is Halloween turned into our thing?
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Your Halloween party. The one time I went had literally
it was speaking of hocus Pocus. It was like you
had like a band where the people were dressed up
like the kid like spooky and they're playing spooky music.
Like do you only see that in a movie? You
don't see that in real life.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
That was literally the best compliment we ever got was
that people were like, this is like the party that
I didn't think actually happened in real life, but I
only saw in like teen comedies. Everybody's in a costume.
There was a stage in the backyard with a band
with our friend Chockey, and he had all his friends
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in their dress like Frankenstein and doing all this stuff.
And yeah, it was pretty nuts.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
You know who is there that I love? Vanessa Bayer? Yeah,
and I go where you just like, and she goes,
I'm a little lady.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
She's so funny.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
She's so funny. Can't play some ghost voices? Sure, it's
time for EVP or ev plicse EVP electronic voice phenomenon.
That's what people believe they've captured a ghost speaking. I
(34:44):
go to YouTube dot com.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Okay, are these the ones that come from the noise
on a cassette? Like that gets lost? Like sometimes people
say there's these little stretches on cassette tapes where you
can hear people trying to communicate.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Are you talking about like the subliminal messages and like
not that?
Speaker 2 (35:08):
So this is more this is like an art bell
kind of thing. Yeah, where it would be like these
would be the sounds that exist like in the frequencies that.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
I mean, I think it sometimes can be. Okay, these
are more organic, at least these two that I've chosen.
We sometimes will have ones that come from like devices
or whatever. Okay, but my favorite is like where someone
just has a camera running and then all of a
sudden you hear like like that.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
This is the stuff that spooks me out. Yeah, audio
scares me more than than seeing something. Hearing something scares
me more than seeing something.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Ah, I'm a feeling like feeling something is that I
can't deal with the thought of something like that I
can't see touching me.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Yeah. When we were in sell and we stayed in
a house that was from it was like built in
sixteen eighty one, and it was horrifying.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
That's so scary. What was the what was it?
Speaker 2 (36:11):
It was just a three story house that the group
we went with stayed at. And the other thing that
was I think part of my problem was that the
doorways are so low in houses. Like I banged my
head like hard for five times, Like I mean like
full on walking through a doorway and not realizing that
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you're clipping your forehead on the top of it to
where like oh, seeing stars five times. So I might
have just been like concussed, oh the sort. But it
is just a weird feeling. I don't know if it's
that the house is so old and it's kind of crooked,
and it's like it's not it's not a RESTful experience
being in a house.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Now, not at all, And it's just like I don't know,
like that there's no insulation or I don't know what
it is like it just I hate that I'm not
into old houses like that at all. I've really come
to the realization after staying in all of these haunted
old ass places. I love like mid century Okay, I'm
okay with that, but when we're talking eighteen hundreds or
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before then, I'm not into it.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
No, it's even if nothing's going on, they're still creepy.
They're so creepy.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Oh, they're just so creepy. When I see like a
floral bedspread and like one of these old bed and
breakfast that I'm already spooked. I'm like a ready screaming. Yeah,
I see like one of these like Tiffany lamps or whatever.
Get me out of here. Okay, So these are two EVPs,
this first one. They're both from a channel called Hybrid
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Soulless Paranormal, and they believe this is the voice of
a mature woman, which feels like a porn category. But okay,
mature woman, what is she saying, Tom sharp Lang, Okay,
wait one more? I love you play it.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
I don't know. Sounds like the NBC.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
That's not what they believe.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
I didn't think she was saying NBC.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Hybrid Solace paranormal. Did they think it was a you're
a loser, B she moved me, C he lives here?
Or D you booze too much? Okay, it's one of these.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
I would say, B she moved me.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
Yea, that is what they believe. Tom sharplying one for one.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
And now I'm terrified now I hear it.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Here's the next one. I'm not sure if it's the
same location. I don't know, but it's the same channel
posted this one. Was it saying I don't think this
is a mature woman at this time, I don't know
who this is. It might be the same lady, and
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he guesses I don't have any guess that's okay. Did
they think it was a you are so boring girl?
B Louis was born to do it? C. I could
have sworn you're dead or D the chicken is warm,
(39:44):
I swear.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
I guess I would say C.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
They believe it was B. Lewis was born to do it.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
I want to know Lewis. Well here I hear it,
so once you know, yeah, or if it's Louis c K.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
That's what I'm afraid of.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
I don't want to know what he was born to do.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
Tom One last thing. Yes, I'm just curious some of
your beliefs. UFOs were ye at with them.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
I think again, I think something's going on. I don't
know where I stand on the continuum of things, but
I would just say, yeah, I believe something's up.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
Okay. What about Ouiji boards? Yeah, one of them.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
When we went to Salem, there is a wija board
museum and it was the coolest, one of the coolest
things I've ever seen. The guy who runs it, they're
his boards he's been collecting them his whole life. And
first you're just seeing this guy, this funny kook, and
I said, in the best possible intent, and he's living
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his dream. He has a museum of wig aboards. It's
the thing he's interested in more than anything. It was amazing.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
That's great. I like seeing that.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
Mm hm. But they do they spook me out?
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Yeah, do you really think that you could like summon
a demon.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
I don't think that's the I don't think that happens
all the time. But again, but it just seemed. Look,
they stay just scare me because suddenly if you're if
the when the mood gets right on certain things. I've
never done a wig aboard thing because I just I
just it just never happened.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
But I but if a demon's feeling in the mood.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
The scary thing on them is when says goodbye, like
on the board.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Oh that sounds great.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
But just like that, which eventually a demon says, I'm
leaving like that.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
To me, this is the worst slumber party I've ever
been through.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
You kids are lame. I'm out of here. I'm going
to go hang out with the hooker man.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
But that's what I what are like, how does that
work when you're like a dead person? Because I feel
like at slumber parties a lot of times people aren't
trying to speak to specifically someone, so instead they're just
like asking questions will I go on a date with
Derek or whatever? And then it's like who's the ghost
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that's like, Okay, we're getting a call coming in from
like this these twelve year old slumber party Okay, let's
let's do some fun. Let's say like, no, he hates you. Yeah,
that's the kind of job that or the old hag
that crawls on people when they have sleeper listens, those
are the ones I'm applying for the first day I'm dead.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
I guess I would want to do some sort of
wage board thing.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
Oh my god, you would be so good at that
as a ghost.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
Just say like Derek is dead?
Speaker 1 (42:52):
What he's up here?
Speaker 2 (42:56):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Sorry, wrong, Derek?
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Oh yeah. I wonder if that's like you're low on
the ladder of spirits and you're just like you have
to do like slummer party duty.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
To work your way. Yeah, what about synchronosities or you know,
are you into that sort of a thing. Are you
someone that goes it's a sign. It means something.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
I think to a degree, I am. I. I guess
the biggest thing I would say the idea of deja
vous for me, and the idea of time I just
see as completely. It's not linear at all. And I
feel like sometimes I feel like I've done all of
this already and I remember doing it.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
Are you a past lives person?
Speaker 2 (43:44):
I do think you. I do. I believe ultimately guess
that just like in energy, and I think you can
come back and do better next time and maybe get
rewarded for being a good person that maybe you art
at a better place.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
Would you guess that you're a young one or an
old one, like you've been here a lot or new
I think this is the last one for me, maybe
one more.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
I think I've been a few rounds already, and we're
waiting for like finally it's just like, okay, fine, now
we're gonna now we're going to take care of you
because you were you did right.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
I think you were a vaudeville starr.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
So you think that's what I was the last time? Sure?
Speaker 1 (44:29):
Or like a radio guy or something like early radio voices.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
Sure, I could see that. And then now I'm back.
What did I do in that previous life that may
put me in this one? I'm getting punished a little bit.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
Na last one. Bigfoot? Who's that? What's the deal real?
Speaker 2 (44:53):
I don't know if Bigfoot's real? I do. I do
believe that there's like the idea that Australia is so
huge and we don't know what's going on in the
middle of it, that they're still they still find species
and up thing. That's the scariest thing ever when you
think of Australia so enormous, but everybody just lives on
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the coast in the middle of it is just untamed
and it's just like, that's terrifying to me.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
Oh, there's so many scary things. My biggest thing, and
I think it goes back to the peanut brittle, is snakes.
I don't like them at all.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
Yeah, that's that's one of the creepiest things about I
would love to go to Australia, but that part of
it freaks me out. Is the seat too, the wild,
the way nature just spills over, like you see a
kangaroo and you're walking down the street.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
So you believe in Bigfoot, is what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
I believe. I think there could definitely be some Bigfoot
out there.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
You know, there's one in Jersey called big red Eye.
Big red Eye, Old red Eye are so okay, I
just just so that I don't misrepresent you're your heritage.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
My heritage. Let's please show respect to my New Jersey heritage.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
Big red Eye. I took one of those to get here,
Big red Eye. According to Weird New Jersey dot com, Bigfoot,
big red Eye. So it's basically so they got a
great picture accurate. So basically this one is Bigfoot but
(46:32):
with red eyes.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
Yeah. Now I'm scared of Bigfoot. I always thought Bigfoot
you could coexist with, Like Bigfoot's not coming to kill you.
This one is left alone.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
Or Here's here's what I'm gonna do. I'm going to
pitch this as a commercial to the commercial people, and
I'm going to get ben Stein clear rise.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
Sure, that's what bring them back right right? Wheel them in.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
Clear Oh Bigfoot, your eyes? I don't remember. I'm not
good at pressions. This is the d stuff we're going
to work on at UCPUS.
Speaker 2 (47:08):
This is why say we want to get better at
character work.
Speaker 1 (47:12):
It says, over a period of two weeks, back in
nineteen seventy seven, strange moaning sounds and eerie, haunting screams
filled the night along wolf Pitt Road in Sussex County, Ring.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
About a little north of where I grew up.
Speaker 1 (47:28):
But it always started around two am and went on
until almost dawn. It sounded like some kind of huge
primeate making these noises, and it woke me out of
my sound sleep. I had the windows open so I
could hear it. Really well, I'm not going to read
all of this, but it turns out it was Big
Red Eye.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
Okay, New Jersey's a creepy place. There was a a
There was an amusement park and it had had animals
in it where you drive through and then that went
under and then they animals were just like supposedly loose
in the state.
Speaker 1 (48:03):
Oh that's nice.
Speaker 2 (48:06):
The lions.
Speaker 1 (48:08):
That's nice.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
All right.
Speaker 1 (48:10):
Well, I guess that's all I got for you.
Speaker 2 (48:13):
Well, I guess i'll see over you said Wednesdays at
three to six. We're doing well, Okay.
Speaker 1 (48:20):
I think we're going to do good together. We could
do a two person team if you want.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
Yeah, we could go in just maybe in a two
headed giant sweater. We have.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
Or a horse front back.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
We split it then fifty fifth, like we only pay
half because we say we're one horse, right, and we'll
do the improv.
Speaker 1 (48:42):
We'll be like the Sclar brothers.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
Will be just like the Sclar brothers.
Speaker 1 (48:49):
Tom Sharply And where do you want people to find
you besides at UCB every week? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (48:55):
I do the best show every Tuesday, and been doing
that for a very long time. Now it's a twenty
fifty year I've been doing it.
Speaker 1 (49:04):
Ross twenty five years.
Speaker 2 (49:06):
Unbelievable. Wow, What am I doing with my life? Wow?
And I do Double Threat every week with Julie Clowns there. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:14):
Did you ever have a psychic on or anything like that?
Speaker 2 (49:18):
Yeah, we've I've had people over the We had a
psychic on Double Threat.
Speaker 1 (49:22):
I remember that that because you did who was it
Orson Wells or somebody you did a seance?
Speaker 2 (49:29):
I think so, and I think John Daly was there
for it. And then just the psychic was saying all
these things about John's life, and then off air, John
was just like, none of that was I was just
being polite. Oh, I didn't want to like burn the
person on air, but was like they got everything wrong.
Speaker 1 (49:48):
So well, great, Yes, Double Threat, which I'm obsessed with.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
You've been on Double Threat, You've been on the best
show I have. Yes, I've been on Hosted Man. Now
you can say that the circle is complete.
Speaker 1 (50:04):
All right, Well, anyone listening look forward to our new
two person act called Hooker Man and the Pig Lady.
Speaker 2 (50:14):
Yeah it sounds like a sitcom.
Speaker 1 (50:18):
Or like a radio show.
Speaker 2 (50:20):
Yeah, it's like an old timey radio.
Speaker 1 (50:21):
Hooker Man and the Pig Lady. Thank you so much
to Tom Sharpling. What a dear. I love you all,
both living and dead. But if I didn't ask you
to haunt me, don't haunt me came back. This has
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been an exactly right production. Want to share your paranormal
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This episode was mixed and sound designed by the eerie
(51:31):
Edson Choi. My guest booker is the petrifying Patrick Kuttner.
My theme music is by the spine chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon.
Artwork by the spooky Vanessa Lilac. Photography by the terrifying
Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced by the chilling Karen Kilgaiff, the
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What's that at the bed. It's spooky, joky. I'm pretty
sure it's dead. It's coming this way. Wait a minute, help,
I'm ghosted. I'm nandaz Pllease hey boo, It's me Rose
(00:31):
and welcome to Ghosted by Raz Hernandez, the podcast where
I talk to people that I like about the paranormal
I have on the pod today Tom Sharpling, who has
been doing the best show for twenty five years. He's
(00:51):
like one of these people that's been podcasting before there
was even the name podcasting. He's great. I can talk
to him about anything, and such a sweet person and
so funny. Before we get to that, let me read
you a story. This one comes from Bianca. Bianca writes,
I live in Toronto, Ontario. Ah quit bragging, Bianca, but
(01:17):
I grew up in Niagara Falls, which is surprisingly rich
in paranormal activity. I have a few good encounters. But
I think you might be interested in my Hopkins Tomb story.
O good. I'm twenty nine now. But when I was
(01:39):
in elementary school, my friend and I decided to do
our Historica Bristol board project on Hopkins's tomb. There are
many stories that circulated about the haunted tomb, but the
one in this page under the curse section involved a
distant family member of mine. Okay, Bianca has given me
(02:03):
a link about this place called Hopkins's Tomb. It looks
spooky oooooo. In this it talks about a distant family
member of Bianca who was cursed. He lost his leg
in a freak motorcycle accident after sticking it in the tomb.
He stuck his leg in the tomb, and then he
lost his leg in a motorcycle accident. AnyWho lots of
(02:27):
eerie deaths and lingering curses from this tomb, okay, I'll
believe you. In short, the local legend is that if
you run around the tomb three times, you'll summon the
supernatural entity. My friend and I went with her mom
to take some pictures for our project. Her mom was
in the car. The thick energy surrounding the tomb hangs
(02:50):
in the air. There's a small fence about knee height
surrounding the tomb. After taking our photos, we elected to
run around the tomb twice. After making our second lap,
we laughed breathlessly and decided to run another halfway around,
making it almost three times. Very cheeky, but just as
(03:13):
we kissed that two point five lap finish line, I
still have chills when I write this. I felt a
thick gust of wind blow the hair in front of
my face, and the loudest, deepest inhuman voice yell come
in side. It felt so low it shook the ground.
(03:38):
When her mom brought her an eye to my house,
her mom came in because she was so shaken up.
She explained to my mom that she was watching us
do it, and said that she saw the exact moment
it happened the wind on an otherwise still day, and
both of our faces went white as we heard the
exact same thing at the exact same time. We both,
(04:02):
without consulting one another, ran towards the car, hopping the
knee height fence, and nearly threw up from fear. We
naturally grew apart with age as we went through high
school and beyond, but to this day we will message
each other every now and then to reflect on this
experience we had. Yeah, it sounds pretty scary, Bianca, I'm
(04:24):
glad you didn't get cursed. Ooh, thanks for sending that.
As you're right now, I'm on tour right now, doing
comedy a gay bars in America. Rosernandez tour dot com
for all those dates. Okay, here's my conversation with Tom
Sharpling and with the show. I don't believe it. We've
(04:49):
got an icon in the world of talking on a microphone,
Tom Sharpling.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Hi, icon.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
But you're not a stand up comedian, no, which you
should be. You're one of the funniest people that ever exists.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
That's so kind of you to say. But I just
can't do that. I don't have that in me.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Are you always seated when you're on the microphone? Pretty
much of sitting and talking on a microphone? Yeah, Now
that that makes it sound like you're not doing anything
or something.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Well, I mean I'm not standing. It's not that not
that hard to stand.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Listen, Tom Sharp. Now I'm talking to the people listening. Okay,
Just I have to check in to make sure that
they're still listening anyways, because sometimes I just start talking
and then the numbers go down.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Numbers never go down. With you, Tom.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Sharpling, how are you? I'm pretty good.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
It is exciting.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
I've been wanting you on here for so long. Yeah,
we've had your double threat other half. Yes, what's her
name again? Klown Julie Kloud's name.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
You didn't forget it?
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Of course I love her. She's been on We've wanted
to have you for forever. It's hard to get you.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Well, now you got me. You tell me what to do.
Now you say jump and I'll say how high.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
We were just talking before we recorded about Liberaci. Yeah,
did you know that Debbie Gibson got haunted by Liberaci's piano? No,
these are the kind of things I know.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Yeah, I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
This is what this is what people come to me for.
So there was an episode of my favorite TV show
of all time, Celebrity Ghost Stories. Sure, have you ever
seen that?
Speaker 2 (06:41):
I think I've seen it.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
I think it's been on for like ten years.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I think, so, yeah, it's so good.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Okay, So I can't I can't necessarily remember, but I
believe she bought Liberaci's like mirrored piano, okay, and like
one time a tile fell off, she was like this, Liberaci.
I think that's how No, I think I think it
was a better story than that, but it was basically
it had something to do with stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Okay. I mean I would say, look, I'm not here
to debunk Debbie Gibson's experience. Deborah Gibson, of course, but
if you go by somebody's old piano, eventually things are
gonna start falling off of it.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
You're no fun.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
No, I am fun. I believe in things like you
wouldn't even imagine. What do you believe in?
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Ghosts?
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Sure? I believe that there's stuff going on.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
You just went to Salem. I did do you do
anything ghosty?
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Oh that's the only thing to do. There's there's literally
nothing there that's not ghosty.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
I have never been there.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
You would love it is witches.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Witches are there. The fact that I have never been
to Salem does not feel right, but it's true. And
I am doing this road trip and I'm doing Province
Sound in Boston. I don't have time, but I wanted
to try to go to Salem or you are those
back to back literally back to back.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Yeah, I don't know how you could squeeze that in
not gonna be able to Everybody has said go off season, though,
so when you go to Salem, and it's when not if.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Don't go in October, that's what they say.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Because that's like going to Times Square on New Year's
Eve where it's just nothing. Everybody's there and it's it's
like you're living in the movie You'll be Halloween.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Mm, which one was that again?
Speaker 2 (08:36):
I was the Adam Sandler movie filmed in Salem. The
movie hocus Pocus, of course filmed in Salem, and you
think it was Star Wars the way they talk about
it in Salem. They're just like, well, of course this
building you recognize from from hocus Pocus.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
You're not a hocus Pocus.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
I could be a fan of the movie hocus Pocus,
but I didn't memorize every location to where I'm gonna
faint if I see it in real life. We did
a tour, a walking tour through, so we did so
many things like that. Fine, there was a kid on
this tour, this teenager, and she was so into hocus
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Pocus and could answer any question, and the tour guide
was starting to get a little irked that this kid
knew so much about hocus Pocus because she was she
would ask a question, she'd be like, so, does anybody
know why hocus Pocus a Halloween movie came out in
the summer and was not released in October, and this
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kid started explaining so much about hocus Pocus, and the
tour guide was getting irked and said, that's a great guess.
It was like, well, no, this is not a guess.
This kid was on guessing. This kid knows the facts
about hocus Pocus. And interestingly enough, or not interestingly enough,
the The Nightmare Before Christmas was coming out in October,
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and they were both Disney properties. So Disney didn't want
to have two Halloween movies in competition with each other,
and so they moved hocus Pocus to the summer.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
And they both are very memorable.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Yeah. And the other thing that made me a little
sad was they're like, well, then they did hocus Pocus too,
and that did not shoot in Salem. And I have
exciting news. They're making hocus Pocus three and hopefully it'll
shoot in Salem. And it's not gonna shoot scheduling.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
We're hoping.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Man Like they were just like, maybe hocus Pocus is
coming back. I just like they never go back.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Well, the best scene in hocus Pocus is Gary and
Penny Marshall. They play husband in life, which is very
little weird. Yeah, and he's dressed like the devil because
it's Halloween and then for some reason, I guess the Sanders'
sisters like worship the devil. That's like the one time
we get a glimpse of their devil worship. I guess,
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I don't know. It's like we don't we really ever
talk about it any other time, but it's like he
has devil horns on and they're like master, it's so good.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Though, who has the guts to say, Hey, we were
thinking that you could be married to your brother in
this Like you know your brother, what if you were
married to him in this movie? Like that's the weirdest
thing to ask out loud. Yeah, that would be one.
That's like who's gonna ask exactly?
Speaker 1 (11:41):
What about ghosts?
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Though?
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Like for you, is that something like so you say
you think it's possible, have you experienced it?
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Not anything that I could really uh dig in on
and say this proves it to me. I just believe
in energy and there's things swirling around and we don't
have answers for things.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Aren't you a sleep paralysis person?
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Oh yeah, huge, huge sleep paralysis person.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Do you see things?
Speaker 2 (12:09):
I haven't had it happen in a long time, which
I think I'm just jinxing myself now now I'm going.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
To have you know, they say, if you talk about it,
it makes it happen.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Are you a sleep paralysis person?
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Ross, I've never had sleep paralysis.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Well, the night is young.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
I that is my biggest fear.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
It's horrible.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
But you've never seen like an old hag lady crawling
on top of you or like stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Not no, nothing like that. It's you know how people say, oh,
I've had it happen five times to me. I've had
it happen eight times. I've had it happen over a
hundred times to me. Wow, easily it would happen to
me all the time.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
To a point where now when it happens, you're like, Okay,
I know what this is. It is fine.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Yeah, it hasn't happened in years of whatever happened in
my life where I made changes, it it stopped, and
I just I don't want it to come back. But
it's the worst thing you take, and like you took
a like if you dozed off in the middle of
the day, then suddenly you're in your body. You know
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you're awake, but you're not awake, and you're screaming like
screaming to wake up, like I need to get myself
out of this state. And you're absolutely doing everything you can,
and then the person who just sees you in real
life just you're just going eh. But in your mind
you're screaming at the top of your lungs and shaking
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and trying to just wake up. It's the worst.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
That's a nightmare.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
That's I mean, literally, it's the worst.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
I did some research, not about sleep paralysis at all.
I did some research about your home state of New Jersey. Yeah,
urban legends, a.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Lot of them.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
I love a good urban legends. Do any come to
mind for you of New Jersey?
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Well, I mean the big one is the Jersey Devil.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
That's right, not to be confused with Gary Marshall, who's
the Salem Devil. Yes, tell me about the Jersey Devil,
because that's not one that I did research on. But
I'm like, she's that girl.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
I believe, and I'm not as up to speed as
I probably should be on the Jersey Devil. Jersey Devil's
down in the Pine barrens, which is at the bottom
of the state, just like this giant, huge wooded area
that time. Famously, there's an episode of the Sopranos that
takes place in the pine barrens where they go to.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
It's the Jersey Devil in that.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Kill a guy. Now, the Jersey Devil's not in it,
but the pine barrens are terrifying because it's just vast woods.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
What about Jersey Mike?
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Jersey Mike is he's my Jersey devil. He's probably my
Jersey Angel actually.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
But what is it? Jersey Devil is like some kind
of it's a cryptid. What does it look like? I
need to look this up.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
I think he's like a good old fashioned.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Oh okay, so like bat wings uh huh, and like
maybe walks on two legs as well.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
I think so, yeah, okay, almost like.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
A mothman, but not quite a mothman. He's like a
Jersey version of a mothman. Well, what about the pig Lady.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
I don't know about the pig Lady. I mean I've
met a few into Jersey. I didn't know there was
just a lady.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Oh, there's the pig lady.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Well, tell me about the.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Page's earned the title of the pig Lady. Well, some
of the research I got is from a website called
farms dot com.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Okay, farms, yep, is that where we're at on the
show Ron we're hitting up farms dot com for content.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Yes, this is where we started. Okay, this is what
we do here. Okay, So it says Roycefield Road, which
is in rural New Jersey, is known to some locals
as pig Lady Road. The street's unofficial name comes from
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the belief that you can summon a woman with a
pig's head by chanting pig lady three times during the night.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
That would actually scare me.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
It's also how you can summon me on grinder. Okay.
So Weird New Jersey dot Com or Weird NJ dot
com is a great website because there is a lot
of weird stuff in New Jersey. And on their website,
I mean, it's no farm, but what is and weirdnjay
(17:05):
dot com there's like testimonials of people that have gone
to pig Lady Road.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Some of what they say here on this website is
that she was basically.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Not a looker and her great personality.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Well, I think that's the problem. She also did not
live personality, didn't have much going for her, and some
say that she had the face of a pig put
on her by her father. Here it says, have you
ever heard of the pig lady? This is all I know.
(17:44):
This is from someone named John R. A husband came
home from work and decapitated his wife. Oh my god.
When the police got there, they never found her missing head.
Now you're supposed to go down this road off of
Royce Field Road in.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Hillsboro, Hillsboro, I know Hillsboro.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
It says Doris Duke's property.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Yeah, Doris Duke was the incredibly wealthy heiress who owned
I believe it's the Duke University.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Is oh really yeah, Well, she's also owns the property
that of pig lady wrote Apparently.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
There are acres upon acres of woodland that is like
owned by the Doris Duke in New Jersey that has
been preserved.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Well, it says if you honk your horn at night,
her glowing head will appear. That's what people say. Another
person said, this one is from somebody named They're calling
themselves the Pig Hunter, they said. The story goes that
in the early nineteen hundreds, when Hillsboro was all farms
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in vast woods, there lived a lady who resembled a
pig she lived out, so they're just going with the
story that she was just born looking pig like. She
lived on a farm, secluded from civilization because as a
child she was picked on and teased constantly, so she
vowed never to have to deal with that kind of
torture ever again. One day, as she was gardening, a
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young boy came along with two of his friends and
noticed the pig lady gardening. The boys made jokes about
her hideous pig face and vowed to go back later
that night and place a slaughtered pighead on her doorstep.
They went that night and were never heard from again.
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Years later, as Hillsborough grew in population, the missing teenager's
bones were found where her garden once was. Who legend
has it that in order for her to come out,
you must annoy her by flashing your lights, screaming big lady,
and beeping the horn. Then you must leave someone from
your group on the street and drive off without looking back.
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Absolutely not no way. I know. I would definitely be
one of the people that stayed in the car. Once
you get to the end of the road, you turn
around and go back, and you see what your friend
has witnessed the whole drive from leaving your friend and
coming back takes ten minutes. Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
So you leave your friend for ten minutes.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
And then she goes on or whoever this is, the
pig hunter goes on to say that they did this,
and they went back to get their friend and they're like, Jen,
where are you? And she was crying in a bush.
And then when they went to get her and brought
her back in the car, she was covered with scratches
on her arms, legs and face. No big hoof scratches.
(20:44):
Oh wait, no, maybe she does human hands, but just
a pig face. I love it. So next time you're
in Jersey time, Yeah, I got a place for you,
pig lady road.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Well, I'll say one thing. I'm not the one getting
out of the car.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
No, it's not happening. What's How about the Herbert Appleby House.
It's haunted by mud slide.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
And I don't know about this. I know about Appleby's
in New Jersey. I've been to those, and I think
they probably make mud slides at the bar.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
The Herbert Appleby House.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
The bar in Appleby's is its own horror. Have to
hang out there?
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Oh my God, this is one of Middlesex County's most
haunted pre Civil War homes.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
I grew up in Middlesex County.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
You know the Herbert Appleby House. Now, supposedly this is
from tap into dot Net. Supposedly, this nineteenth century residence
at one six sixty one Main Street, near Spotswood's border, Okay,
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converted to the Alice Appleby Devo lib in nineteen forty six.
Alice Appleby was the daughter of Herbert Appleby. Independent paranormal
investigator Karen Temper from East Brunswick's New Jersey Ghost Organization.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
These towns are all way too close to where I
actually grew up. Ross. I don't like any of this.
I feel lucky I got out alive. The way you're
painting New Jerseys, I was apparently, I was living in
a Everything was haunted around me.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
This person saw a shadow figure who stood up from
the couch and walked out of the library room. Also,
a living caretaker claimed he awoke to find the apparition
of two young girls at his bedside.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
I want nothing to do with any of this.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Okay, I'll give you one more. Here's another New Jersey one,
the hooker Man.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Well I know those agn pig hunter hooker Man, I
knew about all these are like characters in Bruce Springsteen's side.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
The hooker Man. Oh my god, you ever you know
Franken Hooker, You've been in your trauma era. I feel like,
isn't it a trauma movie?
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Or I think Franken Hooker is a proper trauma.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
It's like it's like it's distributed. Well, this is hooker Man, Okay,
and hooker Man, it says. This is from Weird New
Jersey dot com. Again, it says in New Jersey. The
hooker Man legend is that a railroad worker who lost
his arm in a train mishap over a century ago.
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Some say that he was a night watchman on the
Bartley Flanders Spur one night, while signaling the oncoming train
to stop, he fell and lost consciousness. When he awoke,
he realized the train had run him over and cut
off his arm. Other stories say that he lost his
arm when he fell off the train. Now I don't
(23:57):
understand why he's called the hooker Man. Anyway, you have
a hook, it says, now, fitting with a hook to
replace his lost hand. The hooker Man's spirit appears on
the tracks carrying a lantern looking for his lost arm.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Okay, is it a hand or is it an arm?
We got to get this hooker man thing straight.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
This is yeah, this is actually, this is This is
the conversation that needs to be had. There's a person
on where New Jersey dot Com named Paul tupac Zeuski
literally spelled like tupac Zeuski. Paul tupac Zuski says, back
in the nineteen sixties and seventies, the hooker Man's sight
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was a big teen attraction. A friend of mine would
go down to see the lights, and on hot summer
nights there would always be a crowd of fifteen to
thirty teen's. The hooker Man, he said, generally appeared right
before a train was to pass by. Usually it appeared
as a yellowish hazy ball that bobbed down the tracks.
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One particular night, however, he became a true believer. As
a train approached at its ten mile per hour speed
on this somewhat rickety line, the hooker man light appeared
about thirty feet down the tracks from where we were standing.
As the train got closer, the light moved down the
track slowly as well. Just before the train reached the group.
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The engineer dimmed his headlight for a second and then
turned it on again at its highest brightness for about
a second. In the rays of the bright light, the
group saw a translucent figure of a railroad worker in
overalls with one arm, and that arm was waving a
lantern side to side. This man's been holding onto this
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story for a long time. Yeah, this is why we
gotta keep baby boomers off the internet. That's pretty much
the research i'pe done on New Jersey. Can show you
a haunted eBay doll? Yeah, please, it's time for the
dolls are living Tom Yeah, I go to eBay dot com,
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I type and haunted doll. This one kind of reminded
me of you.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Oh, I can't wait to see this. This is I'm
sure this is gonna be so flattering, domb.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
I think the world of you because this one is uh,
he's into prank phone.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Calls, okay, which I which is throughout my life up.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
And that's the only thing that reminds me of you
with this one. With this one's name is Charlie.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
He's going for twenty one dollars and fifty nine cents.
Very random number. Okay, geeha, show us Charlie, you got it,
roz boh, well, I can see the resemble.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
I can see why that would remind you of me.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Uh, I don't like this. But Charlie comes with a
tongue hanging out. Yeah. This person staged a photo of
Charlie playing in the grass with little overalls on.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Yeah, I'm not crazy about Charles. That tongue looks like
it's trying to escape.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Yeah, that hard plastic tongue just hanging out of its mouth.
And those eyebrows, the eyebrows are nobody actually has eyebrows
like that. Dolls do, Okay, So these all come with bios. Yeah, Charlie,
he was twenty two when he passed. So just so
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you know, Tom, we're supposed to believe that a real
living human lived and died and then ended up in
this doll and now it's for sale on eBay.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Of course. He was full of life, always up to something.
A natural prank stir. He had a knack for making
everyone around him laugh, often at the most unexpected moments,
from hiding whoopee cushions in the most inconvenient places to
pulling elaborate tricks on his friends. Charlie thrived on the
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art of the practical joke. He's one of these trickster types.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Yeah, like demons.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Oh try these uh these peanuts, these peanut.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Brittle un unscrew the capumb peanut.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Going back to my father being a clown. That's why
I have not eaten peanut brittle. I don't trust it.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Okay, because of that.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
If somebody says, would you like to try some peanut brittle,
I run because I know what that means. A snake's
gonna flash my face and I don't like that. Or
if somebody says, smell this flower, No, you don't do that.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Who are you hanging out with that? These are even
options all the time, like, hey, you want some peanut
brittle rons? And when's the last time you had peanut brittles?
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Seven years older? Every day?
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Okay, fair enough.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
People just come up to me, they say, you want
some peanut.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
But if I had a pack of gum and said here,
pull a stick out.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
I've learned my lesson on that one. No matter how stanky,
my breath is not grabing unless I have control of
the gum.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
I understand that completely.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Because if you don't know this people, and this is
a real thing. You have to be careful watch where
you're getting gum from because there there could be a
spring on it, and that.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Hurts, especially when you don't expect it. It's like a
stick in your finger in a mouse trap.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
It is like that. Yeah, Okay, So basically that's that's
who Charlie was. Charlie was that kind of person. So
it says here these are some of the things you'll
experience if you buy Charlie. Unpredictable laughter. I'm used to that.
The sound of laughter, loud, jarring, and often inappropriately timed.
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Oh that, nothing's worse than when some laughs during your punchline,
a mischievous cackle that's filled with irreverence. Okay, When Charlie
feels particularly playful, lights in the room will turn on
and off in rapid succession. Sometimes the lights will blink
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to the beat of a rhythm, almost as if Charlie
is enjoying a private joke at the expense of his surroundings.
This guy just never quits, and that's the thing. You
got to turn it off sometime.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
No, Charlie sounds like he would be like an improv
It sounds like Charlie B level three and you see me,
you see.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Oh you want to suggestion? How about you go in
a trash and Charlie, Yes, that's a suggestion from the audience. Exactly,
stay there.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
First word, last word? How about we just do last word.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Charlie, zip zap z more like help me out, Tom,
more like, uh, we're not improv I don't. This is
why why you're supposed to damn it. This is what
you're supposed to take.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Going to be doing level one classes? What would it
take for you to do improv classes with me?
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Oh my god, I'm looking right now. Hang on, you see.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
To farm dot com instead of this.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
So farm dot com is offering h improv classes. They
are offering pig improv. Tom, let's do improv class together.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Who do you have for level one? Oh? Pig, pig
lady was my teacher. Level two is going to be
hooker man. It's all the that should be your improv school.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Oh? Absolutely, okay. Improv one on one starts the twenty third.
There's openings, if you can believe it, there's opening.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
I don't want to even joke about this.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Now Wednesdays three pm to six.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
I'm so busy.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Oh you're not, No, Tom make time for this.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
No, I guess I'm doing him. I guess I'm a
level one improv student. Now.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
I took improv during the pandemic over Zoom because I
was I was like, I need to do something. I
took the Groundlings. The hardest thing I've ever done in
my life.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Really over im over zoom. It would be hard.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
It was so hard. They were constantly like doing different
kind of voice or whatever. And I was like, I'm
kind like, I like don't to that kind of stuff.
I'm not that kind of like person. I don't do
like Oh and now I am a lady that works
out of store, Like, I can't do that anyway. Charlie
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cud You also sometimes hear Train because of Charlie, because
it seems like in his final moments he was hit
by a train. The trains the Hooker Man game and
got him. You know what, I was just thinking about
how iconic of a Halloween person you are.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Yeah, that's a big thing for me and Julia is
uh my wife, is Halloween turned into our thing?
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Your Halloween party. The one time I went had literally
it was speaking of hocus Pocus. It was like you
had like a band where the people were dressed up
like the kid like spooky and they're playing spooky music.
Like do you only see that in a movie? You
don't see that in real life.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
That was literally the best compliment we ever got was
that people were like, this is like the party that
I didn't think actually happened in real life, but I
only saw in like teen comedies. Everybody's in a costume.
There was a stage in the backyard with a band
with our friend Chockey, and he had all his friends
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in their dress like Frankenstein and doing all this stuff.
And yeah, it was pretty nuts.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
You know who is there that I love? Vanessa Bayer? Yeah,
and I go where you just like, and she goes,
I'm a little lady.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
She's so funny.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
She's so funny. Can't play some ghost voices? Sure, it's
time for EVP or ev plicse EVP electronic voice phenomenon.
That's what people believe they've captured a ghost speaking. I
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go to YouTube dot com.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Okay, are these the ones that come from the noise
on a cassette? Like that gets lost? Like sometimes people
say there's these little stretches on cassette tapes where you
can hear people trying to communicate.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Are you talking about like the subliminal messages and like
not that?
Speaker 2 (35:08):
So this is more this is like an art bell
kind of thing. Yeah, where it would be like these
would be the sounds that exist like in the frequencies that.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
I mean, I think it sometimes can be. Okay, these
are more organic, at least these two that I've chosen.
We sometimes will have ones that come from like devices
or whatever. Okay, but my favorite is like where someone
just has a camera running and then all of a
sudden you hear like like that.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
This is the stuff that spooks me out. Yeah, audio
scares me more than than seeing something. Hearing something scares
me more than seeing something.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Ah, I'm a feeling like feeling something is that I
can't deal with the thought of something like that I
can't see touching me.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Yeah. When we were in sell and we stayed in
a house that was from it was like built in
sixteen eighty one, and it was horrifying.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
That's so scary. What was the what was it?
Speaker 2 (36:11):
It was just a three story house that the group
we went with stayed at. And the other thing that
was I think part of my problem was that the
doorways are so low in houses. Like I banged my
head like hard for five times, Like I mean like
full on walking through a doorway and not realizing that
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you're clipping your forehead on the top of it to
where like oh, seeing stars five times. So I might
have just been like concussed, oh the sort. But it
is just a weird feeling. I don't know if it's
that the house is so old and it's kind of crooked,
and it's like it's not it's not a RESTful experience
being in a house.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Now, not at all, And it's just like I don't know,
like that there's no insulation or I don't know what
it is like it just I hate that I'm not
into old houses like that at all. I've really come
to the realization after staying in all of these haunted
old ass places. I love like mid century Okay, I'm
okay with that, but when we're talking eighteen hundreds or
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before then, I'm not into it.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
No, it's even if nothing's going on, they're still creepy.
They're so creepy.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Oh, they're just so creepy. When I see like a
floral bedspread and like one of these old bed and
breakfast that I'm already spooked. I'm like a ready screaming. Yeah,
I see like one of these like Tiffany lamps or whatever.
Get me out of here. Okay, So these are two EVPs,
this first one. They're both from a channel called Hybrid
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Soulless Paranormal, and they believe this is the voice of
a mature woman, which feels like a porn category. But okay,
mature woman, what is she saying, Tom sharp Lang, Okay,
wait one more? I love you play it.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
I don't know. Sounds like the NBC.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
That's not what they believe.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
I didn't think she was saying NBC.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Hybrid Solace paranormal. Did they think it was a you're
a loser, B she moved me, C he lives here?
Or D you booze too much? Okay, it's one of these.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
I would say, B she moved me.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
Yea, that is what they believe. Tom sharplying one for one.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
And now I'm terrified now I hear it.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Here's the next one. I'm not sure if it's the
same location. I don't know, but it's the same channel
posted this one. Was it saying I don't think this
is a mature woman at this time, I don't know
who this is. It might be the same lady, and
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he guesses I don't have any guess that's okay. Did
they think it was a you are so boring girl?
B Louis was born to do it? C. I could
have sworn you're dead or D the chicken is warm,
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I swear.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
I guess I would say C.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
They believe it was B. Lewis was born to do it.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
I want to know Lewis. Well here I hear it,
so once you know, yeah, or if it's Louis c K.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
That's what I'm afraid of.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
I don't want to know what he was born to do.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
Tom One last thing. Yes, I'm just curious some of
your beliefs. UFOs were ye at with them.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
I think again, I think something's going on. I don't
know where I stand on the continuum of things, but
I would just say, yeah, I believe something's up.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
Okay. What about Ouiji boards? Yeah, one of them.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
When we went to Salem, there is a wija board
museum and it was the coolest, one of the coolest
things I've ever seen. The guy who runs it, they're
his boards he's been collecting them his whole life. And
first you're just seeing this guy, this funny kook, and
I said, in the best possible intent, and he's living
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his dream. He has a museum of wig aboards. It's
the thing he's interested in more than anything. It was amazing.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
That's great. I like seeing that.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
Mm hm. But they do they spook me out?
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Yeah, do you really think that you could like summon
a demon.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
I don't think that's the I don't think that happens
all the time. But again, but it just seemed. Look,
they stay just scare me because suddenly if you're if
the when the mood gets right on certain things. I've
never done a wig aboard thing because I just I
just it just never happened.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
But I but if a demon's feeling in the mood.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
The scary thing on them is when says goodbye, like
on the board.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Oh that sounds great.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
But just like that, which eventually a demon says, I'm
leaving like that.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
To me, this is the worst slumber party I've ever
been through.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
You kids are lame. I'm out of here. I'm going
to go hang out with the hooker man.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
But that's what I what are like, how does that
work when you're like a dead person? Because I feel
like at slumber parties a lot of times people aren't
trying to speak to specifically someone, so instead they're just
like asking questions will I go on a date with
Derek or whatever? And then it's like who's the ghost
(42:19):
that's like, Okay, we're getting a call coming in from
like this these twelve year old slumber party Okay, let's
let's do some fun. Let's say like, no, he hates you. Yeah,
that's the kind of job that or the old hag
that crawls on people when they have sleeper listens, those
are the ones I'm applying for the first day I'm dead.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
I guess I would want to do some sort of
wage board thing.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
Oh my god, you would be so good at that
as a ghost.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
Just say like Derek is dead?
Speaker 1 (42:52):
What he's up here?
Speaker 2 (42:56):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Sorry, wrong, Derek?
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Oh yeah. I wonder if that's like you're low on
the ladder of spirits and you're just like you have
to do like slummer party duty.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
To work your way. Yeah, what about synchronosities or you know,
are you into that sort of a thing. Are you
someone that goes it's a sign. It means something.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
I think to a degree, I am. I. I guess
the biggest thing I would say the idea of deja
vous for me, and the idea of time I just
see as completely. It's not linear at all. And I
feel like sometimes I feel like I've done all of
this already and I remember doing it.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
Are you a past lives person?
Speaker 2 (43:44):
I do think you. I do. I believe ultimately guess
that just like in energy, and I think you can
come back and do better next time and maybe get
rewarded for being a good person that maybe you art
at a better place.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
Would you guess that you're a young one or an
old one, like you've been here a lot or new
I think this is the last one for me, maybe
one more.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
I think I've been a few rounds already, and we're
waiting for like finally it's just like, okay, fine, now
we're gonna now we're going to take care of you
because you were you did right.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
I think you were a vaudeville starr.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
So you think that's what I was the last time? Sure?
Speaker 1 (44:29):
Or like a radio guy or something like early radio voices.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
Sure, I could see that. And then now I'm back.
What did I do in that previous life that may
put me in this one? I'm getting punished a little bit.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
Na last one. Bigfoot? Who's that? What's the deal real?
Speaker 2 (44:53):
I don't know if Bigfoot's real? I do. I do
believe that there's like the idea that Australia is so
huge and we don't know what's going on in the
middle of it, that they're still they still find species
and up thing. That's the scariest thing ever when you
think of Australia so enormous, but everybody just lives on
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the coast in the middle of it is just untamed
and it's just like, that's terrifying to me.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
Oh, there's so many scary things. My biggest thing, and
I think it goes back to the peanut brittle, is snakes.
I don't like them at all.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
Yeah, that's that's one of the creepiest things about I
would love to go to Australia, but that part of
it freaks me out. Is the seat too, the wild,
the way nature just spills over, like you see a
kangaroo and you're walking down the street.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
So you believe in Bigfoot, is what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
I believe. I think there could definitely be some Bigfoot
out there.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
You know, there's one in Jersey called big red Eye.
Big red Eye, Old red Eye are so okay, I
just just so that I don't misrepresent you're your heritage.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
My heritage. Let's please show respect to my New Jersey heritage.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
Big red Eye. I took one of those to get here,
Big red Eye. According to Weird New Jersey dot com, Bigfoot,
big red Eye. So it's basically so they got a
great picture accurate. So basically this one is Bigfoot but
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with red eyes.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
Yeah. Now I'm scared of Bigfoot. I always thought Bigfoot
you could coexist with, Like Bigfoot's not coming to kill you.
This one is left alone.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
Or Here's here's what I'm gonna do. I'm going to
pitch this as a commercial to the commercial people, and
I'm going to get ben Stein clear rise.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
Sure, that's what bring them back right right? Wheel them in.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
Clear Oh Bigfoot, your eyes? I don't remember. I'm not
good at pressions. This is the d stuff we're going
to work on at UCPUS.
Speaker 2 (47:08):
This is why say we want to get better at
character work.
Speaker 1 (47:12):
It says, over a period of two weeks, back in
nineteen seventy seven, strange moaning sounds and eerie, haunting screams
filled the night along wolf Pitt Road in Sussex County, Ring.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
About a little north of where I grew up.
Speaker 1 (47:28):
But it always started around two am and went on
until almost dawn. It sounded like some kind of huge
primeate making these noises, and it woke me out of
my sound sleep. I had the windows open so I
could hear it. Really well, I'm not going to read
all of this, but it turns out it was Big
Red Eye.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
Okay, New Jersey's a creepy place. There was a a
There was an amusement park and it had had animals
in it where you drive through and then that went
under and then they animals were just like supposedly loose
in the state.
Speaker 1 (48:03):
Oh that's nice.
Speaker 2 (48:06):
The lions.
Speaker 1 (48:08):
That's nice.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
All right.
Speaker 1 (48:10):
Well, I guess that's all I got for you.
Speaker 2 (48:13):
Well, I guess i'll see over you said Wednesdays at
three to six. We're doing well, Okay.
Speaker 1 (48:20):
I think we're going to do good together. We could
do a two person team if you want.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
Yeah, we could go in just maybe in a two
headed giant sweater. We have.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
Or a horse front back.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
We split it then fifty fifth, like we only pay
half because we say we're one horse, right, and we'll
do the improv.
Speaker 1 (48:42):
We'll be like the Sclar brothers.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
Will be just like the Sclar brothers.
Speaker 1 (48:49):
Tom Sharply And where do you want people to find
you besides at UCB every week? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (48:55):
I do the best show every Tuesday, and been doing
that for a very long time. Now it's a twenty
fifty year I've been doing it.
Speaker 1 (49:04):
Ross twenty five years.
Speaker 2 (49:06):
Unbelievable. Wow, What am I doing with my life? Wow?
And I do Double Threat every week with Julie Clowns there. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:14):
Did you ever have a psychic on or anything like that?
Speaker 2 (49:18):
Yeah, we've I've had people over the We had a
psychic on Double Threat.
Speaker 1 (49:22):
I remember that that because you did who was it
Orson Wells or somebody you did a seance?
Speaker 2 (49:29):
I think so, and I think John Daly was there
for it. And then just the psychic was saying all
these things about John's life, and then off air, John
was just like, none of that was I was just
being polite. Oh, I didn't want to like burn the
person on air, but was like they got everything wrong.
Speaker 1 (49:48):
So well, great, Yes, Double Threat, which I'm obsessed with.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
You've been on Double Threat, You've been on the best
show I have. Yes, I've been on Hosted Man. Now
you can say that the circle is complete.
Speaker 1 (50:04):
All right, Well, anyone listening look forward to our new
two person act called Hooker Man and the Pig Lady.
Speaker 2 (50:14):
Yeah it sounds like a sitcom.
Speaker 1 (50:18):
Or like a radio show.
Speaker 2 (50:20):
Yeah, it's like an old timey radio.
Speaker 1 (50:21):
Hooker Man and the Pig Lady. Thank you so much
to Tom Sharpling. What a dear. I love you all,
both living and dead. But if I didn't ask you
to haunt me, don't haunt me came back. This has
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been an exactly right production. Want to share your paranormal
experience on the podcast? I read stories out loud and
sometimes I'll even call you. So email me at Ghostedz
at gmail dot com. You can send a DM or
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Give us a follow while you're there, and follow me
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Twitter at It's Roz Hernandez. My senior producer is the
startling Jiha Lee Associate producer is the alarming Christina Chamberlain.
This episode was mixed and sound designed by the eerie
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Edson Choi. My guest booker is the petrifying Patrick Kuttner.
My theme music is by the spine chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon.
Artwork by the spooky Vanessa Lilac. Photography by the terrifying
Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced by the chilling Karen Kilgaiff, the
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