Ep. 89: Swine Showings, Alibis, and Texas Forever with Hudson Westbrook

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Yo, what is up?

Speaker 2 (00:06):
You are off in God's Country with your boys?

Speaker 3 (00:10):
Yes you are, Dan and Reed is well. Also known
as the Brother's Hunt. Or we take a weekly drive
to the intersection of country music in the great outdoors.
Those things go together like being twenty years old, being
young and being asked who is Simba's dad? And the
Lion King and not knowing or.

Speaker 4 (00:31):
Texas and high school football championships Move boss. Also, this
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Speaker 2 (01:00):
I can put on a my feet and wear them up.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
And her co.

Speaker 5 (01:06):
Shine up. Baby.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
Hudson Westbrook, Texan.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
State champion football State champion coming out of Texas High School,
which is pretty impressive.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Man, he's uh, the guy's young, but he's a grown man.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
But he's a grown man cutting his teeth on the
on the road, out there working hard.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Shows.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
Yeah, he's got a new record, Texas Forever coming out debut.
I think it's a debut record.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Hats were cool too. Gave us a couple of hats. Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
Yeah, man, he was cool, air stream strong. We had
a great We had a great time hanging out with him.
It's young kid with with a with a good head
on his so interesting talking to people.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
Though, even though there's like literally torn years difference between
he and I, music seems to are gigging in particular,
seems to kind of give us some things to talk
talk about.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
Foundational it is. Yeah, it's the same. It's kind of
the same for everybody. I feel like, once you, once
you do it.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
And that's that's something he talked about, is he he
put a song out on on TikTok blew Up, and
then he immediately went to road, got a band, bought
a van, bought a trailer, and started gigging off of
that one song. And yeah, once you once you step
into that van and you and you start rolling toward
that first gig, and you play that first gig, and
you meet the club owner and he tries to stiff you,

(02:39):
you know, a couple of hundred bucks, and you got
to do that ordeal and you come back off that. Yeah, man,
you've whoever has done that if you've done that in
your life. You things to talk about for sure. Yeah,
great guy, talented dude. He's got a thing the voices. Yeah,
he's killing there's there's some there's some money in there.
I agree, I agree. I just think he's gonna be

(03:00):
around for a long time. I mean, listen to it,
get to know him. Yeah, y'all are gonna love this episode.
Got thanks for hanging out, Thanks for sticking around. I
hope you're hungry, because, oh man, we got some left over.
I got, we got we got some guy.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Roast cooking in the microwave. I knew it was gonna
happen like that. I knew it was remix ray. This
is a big one.

Speaker 4 (03:24):
Kvogus five stars, five stars to spot Dan's oh pen,
I'm assuming that's going to be opinion, and I think
it's gonna be about park backing into parking spaces. I
truly love this podcast until Dan decided to be mad
about people packed backing into parking spaces. Man, I'll back
my wife's prius into a spot in order to maintain
some sense of dignity driving that thing. Speaking of which,

(03:45):
my wife just bought me a pair of COVID I
absolutely has nothing to do with your podcast, But if
you do, need to claim the shows.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
Has everything to do with the podcast.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
We'd all hate to lose our favorite part of the
show where Dan screws up to jingle trying to come
up with his verse on the fly read. There comes
a time when every younger brother has to stop carrying
his big bro on his shoulders. I think that time
is here. Hey, my God must have an older brother.
Kave oags that you're mad at In all seriousness, this
podcast is great and I look forward to it weekly.

(04:14):
Thanks for keeping it fun most family friendly. Dan Sharry
Cutt's good word when you get the chance.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
Even when my three year old tells me he doesn't
want to listen to my silly podcast, I just turn
it up louder because you guys are great.

Speaker 5 (04:24):
Three year olds don't like us.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
I don't know. Yeah, no choke. Thanks, kave oags, yep
on you something happened to us right there?

Speaker 4 (04:35):
Yeah maybe so maybe I got y'all both got three
year olds, but one of them likes me.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
Hudson Westbrook, thanks for hanging out. You'll enjoy this podcast.
We'll check you next time you exceed my speed Hudson
Speed and podcast turns means go. Action means action. That's rights.
Did that better than I did? We have a uh man,

(05:02):
might be you'll see your sheet. Might be the youngest,
might be the youngest youngest guest we've ever had.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
I was told that you graduated high school like two
years ago.

Speaker 6 (05:12):
Yeah, in twenty twenty three six, Which is it's weird
because we go out to all these venues and people
come out there.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
They'll be grandparents.

Speaker 6 (05:20):
They're like, I'm old enough to be your grandma, and
I'm in the VIP and I'm like, no, it's okay, ma'am.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
All right, we little grandma's too. Its okay, grandma's are
welcome here, ma'am. I was by tickets too.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Dude.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
We have a we have a text and a billboard.
This is a long this is a long interest. So
just no, this is this is not normal.

Speaker 6 (05:38):
All right?

Speaker 2 (05:38):
Bill boyd Rookie of the month, a former rec techer.
What does that mean?

Speaker 6 (05:44):
That means guns up Texas Tech? Yeah, but you dropped out.
You said that wrong? Wreck them tech?

Speaker 2 (05:50):
Right here we go?

Speaker 6 (05:52):
All right, that's the first one. No, you tell them,
you tell me, all right, wreck them Tech? I went
to Texa Tech University until I went for like a
year gone along because yeah, yeah, I couldn't have gone along.
So I went about twenty four for about a year
and then I was laid on the floor of the
van on a Twinkie, had like twink all over my shirt,
and I was sitting with the laptop doing my homework

(06:13):
after the show at like three am, and I was like,
you know what, I was like, I'm gonna quit this.
And I was like, and that's gonna make me write
good songs.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Yeah, So what's what's what?

Speaker 3 (06:22):
Wreckotec? That's what guns that guns up? It's pretty dope, man.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
A serious XM Highway find former f f A chapter president.
We'll get into that.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
Amassing nearly three hundred and eighty million global streams in
the first year as an artist, averaging over twenty million
streams per week, that's about.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
That's about what we do on this podcast. His debut
album dropped last Friday, and it's taking the town by storm.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
We've got Hudson wooll Westbrook out and got man yeah right,
his hats man.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
Oh you all up? Let me go.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
Then it fitted too good good to not how bad?
I need a haircut. You got some great Hey, gosh,
that's okay. I told you. I don't know that that's okay, man,
because my wife is a haircutter.

Speaker 6 (07:10):
Yeah, she's the one that keeps camming to My mom
would be saying, let me cut that. She could covered
up with some Texas Forever you should be get.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
Yeah, I'm got you.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
I mean I'm repping dude. I don't know I'm rapping now.
It's kind of a big hat. It's so hard for
me to wear hats with this hair. Bro It looks
good though, thanks to our Texas Forever.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
Yeah, Texas for tect record tet. There you go.

Speaker 4 (07:32):
I have to I have to do this every time
we have someone on from Texas. I have to just
start the podcast by saying you're welcome.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
Dope p hat. By the way, though, dope, okay, thank you, because.

Speaker 4 (07:41):
You guys wouldn't be a state if it wasn't for us.
Why because we we volunteered at the album.

Speaker 6 (07:48):
Yeah yeah, hey everyone, everyone I talk to you here
is like everyone does this, y'all. I go into writing
rooms and stuff and I hang out with people here
and they'll be like, I'll do everything way you're down
in Texas don't show And I'm like, what do you mean?
They're like not anyone references themselves as much as Texans do.
And I'm like, is that a hate or is that
like a good thing?

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Well, I mean I think it's a loyalty thing. There
are ye, there are things same. I like it, Like
I said, as long as you're not just like annoying
about it, you know, like name your album after Texas,
You're from Texas, tattoo of it.

Speaker 6 (08:28):
Yeah, my whole band got it, and after the factory
like yeah, we definitely have like a cult member thing.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
Now we can't split up. So no, uh, what is it?

Speaker 6 (08:38):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (08:39):
I don't know your band? Your band? You should just
said you should name your text your band Texas. I
know that way because y'all are forever Texas band Texas
Forever you have to I'll tag you on the door.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
Man.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
We like to start the show out with a little
segments that we call, uh, what you're mad at?

Speaker 1 (09:01):
What you're mad?

Speaker 2 (09:02):
Ehe just tell us what it is?

Speaker 5 (09:05):
What you're mad at?

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Is it you in and lost kids? Mind being your
boss man or your neighbors cat?

Speaker 5 (09:12):
Just tell sweat you mad?

Speaker 2 (09:18):
Sorry took me a second, I was, that's going on
our right, tight, tight, that's right. I'm glad this morning.
I'm actually mad, ain't glad.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
I'm mad at my truck because it's in the shop,
but I'm glad at my old truck because it got
me here. It's an it's a five Tacoma. There you go, bro,
three hundred and twenty seven thousand miles on it. Those
toyotas go far, go forever. Yeah, they go ahead, just
change the hors you gotta change, That's right.

Speaker 4 (09:48):
They do kind of go forever. Yeah, mine's got two
eighty on it. Yeah, still rolling.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Both of y'all rolling toyotas used to whoa, yeah, a
newer one now, but yeah, rolling toyota. What are your So?
Am I mad or glad?

Speaker 6 (10:02):
Can I go?

Speaker 2 (10:03):
You can go?

Speaker 3 (10:03):
You go?

Speaker 1 (10:04):
All right?

Speaker 6 (10:04):
So, I'm mad at the fact that my truck got
hell damage and I put gas in my diesel truck
last week? Oh no, dude, wait wait wait wait wait
wait wait? How so I get a phone call from
Zeb shout out Zeb, I answered the phone.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
I met the insurance didn't pay for the hell damage,
and Zeb didn't pay for the for his fault.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
Put your for you putting diesel in your gap. Guess
they should replace that.

Speaker 6 (10:30):
God Praise yesterday. Okay, one thousand dollars is all. It's
gonna cost about sixteen thousand dollars in damages.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
Are we talking about this? Okay, we're talking about truck
with hail damage. Okay, sixteen thousand dollars worth of damage.
So you're gonna put you gotta just just pay a
thousand sixteen the face. He just paid it to doubt.
But yeah, I got a phone call from him and
he's like, hey, everything da da dune. I'm talking to him.
He's catching me up and he's like, you're playing the
you got the opry on this, Hey, this for this

(11:00):
week and this for this.

Speaker 6 (11:02):
I just grabbed the gas, put it right in my truck.
I'm like, hell yeah, fill that thing bone dry, and
finished filling it up, put the nozzle up, still on
the phone, driving down the highway for about zero point
five miles, and I I just go stop the truck
right where it was, turned it off. My girlfriend's like,

(11:22):
she's like, oh, you can just drain it right here.
You can just drain it right here.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
And I'm like hell no. I was so pissed.

Speaker 6 (11:27):
I like, all of a sudden, cuss just in the
phone on ZEB and take it to the shop. I'm
in Minnesota or something, and it hails in Alito or Weatherford, Texas.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
And truck gets held on at the shop.

Speaker 6 (11:43):
Oh yeah, and the guys like, I got my own
trucks take care of I'm like, well, I'm.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
Diffused by this whole thing. So you put gas in
the diesel, they take it to the shop and he
gets held on at the shop.

Speaker 6 (11:55):
Yes, but it was ready and he called me and
I didn't come pick it up, so that's all me.
It was already righty, But I was already kind of
out of.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
Town, you know.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
Yeah, it's not really Yeah, but I literally when he
called me, I was like, this is on me or you?
And he was like, no, this is on you. Oh
of course. Yeah. So I go I go to everyone
on my is it really on me?

Speaker 6 (12:14):
And they're like, yeah, if he called you, so that
makes sense. Dang, But unfortunate turn of events.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Oh good, one thousand for sixteen thousand. It's not bad. Yeah,
I just loved Doc. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (12:25):
I didn't even know if I had insurance on it yet,
but we had an insurance for.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
Man out there making purposes to keep up with. I
told him.

Speaker 6 (12:33):
I was like, that's what I get for being twenty
one and buying a brand new truck. Can be nice
to graduate high school last year? What is it?

Speaker 2 (12:39):
What kind of truck is it? Uh?

Speaker 6 (12:41):
It is It's a twenty twenty five high Country So
it was like my first purchase. And then I drove
my fifteen hundred Ram up here to drive around because
I been buddy hiking with everyone for the past year.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
So it's hard to part big trucks around town too. Yeah,
it's not the it's not the greatest stuff. I've learned
that too. This little comb I can whip in whip out.
But my other truck's go big and it's it's tough,
it's got some things already on it.

Speaker 6 (13:06):
Because I was gonna leave that one there and then
get a bigger one for here, and I was like,
that doesn't make sense, because yeah, no, it doesn't. Comb
is probably clutch.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
We fight that battle all the time. We're like, oh man,
we should get a bill to fifty just but dude,
we're here. May would just sit at home, and I
guess now we're probably in town three days a week
and it's just like, I mean, it's kind of it's
not made for it. Yeah, it's changed what you met up.
Oh I had it and I forgot it.

Speaker 4 (13:32):
Come up with something or don't or just be lame.
I had a thing coming in here today. I was like,
I'm mad at this. It's always it always just ends
up being the heat though, you know what I mean.
It's just so hot outside. Man, Like I just don't
do well and he and heat. Okay, I got one.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
Have I told about the guy? All right?

Speaker 4 (13:54):
So me and my wife had a little let's talk
to each other for three days vacation because when you
have three kids, you don't speak, I mean speak, but
it's like not really.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
Well, let's talk to each other for three days vacation.
So uh well, actually, I guess it would just be
once you have kids, you don't speak, talk to me
while listen talking to you for three days. That's kind
of what turning in. So, uh man, I've been working
on my fitness. Dude, I'm trying to like stay alive,
you know, been working pretty hard on it. And uh
so I go to the gym there at the at

(14:26):
the place, and uh man, there's this guy in there,
and he's real excited about being in there, you know.
So he's just he's just lefting normal. But it's off sleeves.
They're like, oh yeah, oh, I'm off. Did this cut
off ripped up? It wasn't ripped up, but like you
can tell, he's like he'd been in the game.

Speaker 7 (14:47):
Manut.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
It's not a new guy, you know.

Speaker 4 (14:50):
So we're sitting there and we're in we're it's just
me and him. It's not a giant gym, you know.
We're in the Dominican and Irby Damns. Here comes in
a Latina stunner. I'll just be honest with you.

Speaker 6 (15:07):
She was.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
She was a really pretty girl and knew it and
was flaunting it.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
Right.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
Well, this guy, he got really excited, kicks.

Speaker 4 (15:16):
It into a whole new gear. I hope he didn't
listen to this podcast. He'll know exactly who he was.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
It was just me and him. It's probably remember the
cartail and probably probably not. No, he's real, white, real,
And so he gets on the he gets on the
bench and he puts his his foot like behind him
on the bench and he picks up dumbbells and he's
doing like one legged squat. Yeah, so I was kind

(15:44):
of I like to watch a lot while I'm in there,
you know. And so I see him have trouble on
the first rate. He picked too heavy of a weight.
First rep. I'm like, this guy's got he's got trouble on,
but he's not gonna quit because because everyone watching year
Sophia reguards yea Latina mommy over there. I'm in the
gym and I see someone go looking in the background.

(16:05):
You're like, for sure. I couldn't. For sure. If I
was single, I would do the same thing. I'm not,
so I don't, but I get where you're coming from.
And this guy, he.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
Didn't even bump it up to like six on the
treadmill when you walked in, like just to just to
get to your legs moving, dude moving a little bit
so tired, man like I got nothing sometimes too far
out of readion.

Speaker 4 (16:26):
Yeah, plus, man, bro forever you just don't it's over
with for you. Just don't get excited about anything, so
except you. Right, So he goes down. I see him
coming up, getting a little shaky. On rep number three,
I'm like, wow, how far is he gonna go? And
he starts going and I'm like, no way, dude, he's

(16:52):
not gonna go full. And he's still I know, you
go ten reps, right, he still got four reps. All
of a sudden, he's like and I'm like, listen again,
it's just the three of us. It's not like and
the like Dominican gym keeper whatever he is is in

(17:12):
the corner. He's just kind of like, man, this guy starts, like.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
I swear, screaming in the gym. I swear he is audibly.
I'm scared I'm going to scare people in this building.

Speaker 6 (17:25):
That makes me mad too, because when I was in
high school, you had kid, you know, a year ago
when I was in high school in the spring, two
months ago, but back when I was hanging out, you
have the dudes that the coaches will be able their
minding their own business and they're lifting like a heavyweight. Oh,
and then you're just like you're trying to get the
coaches attention right now, like the way, yes, I know

(17:46):
what you're doing here, and they're just over there screaming
their ass off, and I'm like, all right, dude.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
I just don't understand that gym guy.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
Yeah, dis yeah, like the dip bar man that's the
That's the one gym experience I think is we we
just used to just do this thing called dips till
you die. And it was like that at the end
of our workout, and I was up there and everybody like,
everybody gets around and you just see how many you
can do.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
And I was pretty good. I was pretty light. I
was small, but you know, strong, so I could I
could go up there. Yeah, no doubt. So I was
up there and had the like right technique and I
was doing that.

Speaker 5 (18:24):
You know, you can got it.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
I was like, They're like, yeah, you got this, and
I was feeling awesome. And about that time in the
last one I got out with this. I was like
and they were like go and I couldn't get on
it and I dropped in my teeth. Oh it was
the first thing to hit the dip bars like in
this and it chipped half of this tooth and I
fill on the ground and I had to go to
doctor Paris and half of this tooth is porcelain. Really yeah,

(18:48):
for from dips the toilet mouth almost almost cool. No,
I didn't bust my lip or anything. It just chipped
half of this tooth.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
I've never tipped too. It's not fun. Same. I've heard.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
It's like if you if you chip it real bad,
it gets like it's like it hurts in like a
sensitive way, like a toothache way, not like a cut way, a.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
Way like a like a throbbing numbing it's like part
of your head like it's in. It's like a bone.
Dude shipping off. Yeah, they're not fun. I hate working out.

Speaker 4 (19:16):
Speaking of working out in high school, this guy was,
let's see if this facts right? A high school football
state champ.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Dude, state in Texas, in Texas? What like, waita let's guess,
wait five A three A what was it? You know
how we do it down in Texas? Dude, it's yeah,
it's master down there forever record record, Texas record the
record again. All right, so what position? Okay, hang on,

(19:46):
what do you think?

Speaker 6 (19:47):
Well?

Speaker 2 (19:47):
I mean, what was it? You know, I don't even
know that. I don't know what division five? I thought
you said five eight. I was like you got but
probably now that is it? We played?

Speaker 6 (20:03):
Uh we played in four A D one dang, so
that's like they added a six A now so we
have one A two A three A four five A
six eight each one has D one D two D
one D two. Yeah, and we we played like like
in my high school, we had a thousand kids and
then we were playing like our guy all up in Dallas,
like was the best team we played. And they were

(20:24):
just a bunch of white boys that all went to
training all their parents were like breakers.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
Well that's the truth. I mean a bunch of white dudes.

Speaker 6 (20:33):
Yeah, there was probably a bunch of black dudes could
probably just walk out there in school.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
Those dudes were Yeah, they were insane and just big guys.

Speaker 6 (20:43):
No, they were just like their parents could throw three
hundred grand for them to go to like APEX training facility.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
So they looked everything looked like they should win, like.

Speaker 6 (20:53):
What I should have looked like if I was Yeah,
I feel that you look good. Yeah, went to stay champions.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
I'm gonna go I'm gonna go outside linebacker. Oh really,
I'm gonna go slot. Here's a slaught to shiver. I
think the guy's got hands. Yeah, outside linebacker, you got
all right? Yeah, you got it right. I was strong safety,
but yeah, same thing. Yeah, safety so much fun.

Speaker 6 (21:21):
I like that.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
I didn't like the man on man stuff, but your
your stuff off the edge right now? Do you miss it?

Speaker 6 (21:27):
No? Same before music, I was like, I want something
else to like chase towards, other than showing up to
math thirteen thirty every day.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
I was like, this is not what's math? Is that
a class? Yes? I don't know. Terry probably didn't learn
anything but math.

Speaker 4 (21:43):
Oh my gosh, I'm so bad at math. It's not
even makes six times seven thirty five.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
No, that's what I'm saying. Eight times eight sixty four. Okay,
good job, nine times seven forty nine. No, that's what
I'm saying. I told you you can think about it,
for I could think about it and get it right.
But just off the cuff, I came to months of
the year September. You can't. I'm just telling you.

Speaker 4 (22:09):
My brain doesn't math, dude, it just doesn't. I have
three hours left in my college on my college to
graduate in. It's a math class and I'm not doing it.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
Does it bother you? Not at all?

Speaker 6 (22:21):
Not?

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Because I can add check. You know what I'm saying.
When they come in, that's all I need. The bank
doesn't for me enough, give us, give us such a chine.
Oh he wouldn't. He's not ready. He's there on Instagram.
Did y'all was it like? Were y'all?

Speaker 3 (22:39):
Like when I think of texashigh school football, I just
think of like huge thing.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
I think of Friday lights, Like that's what That's what
I think of. We played, so we went the whole season.
We played in high school. Where'd you go? Where'd you
Stephenville High School? Is that where you grew up? Stephenville?
Te Yeah? So girl, I grew up in Stephenville.

Speaker 6 (22:55):
And the coach there, like the big reason why we're
like knowing is because Art Briles and in Texas and
he coached at Baylor and won the national championship at
Baylor or something and or something.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
But a great, big success. Yes, but football.

Speaker 6 (23:10):
Yeah, just known for football, and so you know, they
had me brainwashed that it was like football, football football,
And we played. Then in the playoffs, we played like
the fristc Go Star like where the Cowboys practice. Cool
we played, and then Dallas Cowboys Stadium for the state
championsh I've been there. It was insane, Like we would
just walk out there. It's like a wall of sound

(23:31):
and those big stadiums.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
You know, we're supposed to win or we're supposed to
get beat we're supposed to get be dude.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
We we played LBJ Austin and they had I want
you to walk me through because I want to kind
of feel this game. Walk me through the game.

Speaker 6 (23:47):
Yeah, so you show up first time you're ever getting
We're fifteen and oh, and everyone's just treating it like
it's a super Bowl, you know, championship, Like we got it.
We got like six locker rooms, we got we got
we walk in parked the buses under the stadium.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
I never seen anything like that. Now you're walking me
into it, and then you walk through.

Speaker 6 (24:12):
You go into the locker room, they have like all
the players' names up, like you're in the Cowboys locker room. Yeah,
you had like Dak, you had Zeke, you had Tony Pollard,
you had everyone's like like locker and so you get
set up.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
You walk out there.

Speaker 6 (24:27):
Basically the coaches just let you walk the field for
like an hour and they're like, just get it out
of your system because it's just another football game. And
the other team are like over there making tiktoks and stuff,
and and we're we just walked field, walk off and
then dude, all I remember from that game is I
walked out of the tunnel and like looked around and

(24:48):
I walked back in like everything else.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
I was blacked out during. It was so weird. Really yeah,
the game I remember getting truck. Were focused in the game,
like it's like yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 (24:59):
But then they have that big jumbo tron up top.
So we're running this play. I'm looking over on the right.
I don't know what I was looking at, and my
coach is calling something and I get set up on
the outside and we had like the best linebacker and
four A. I mean he went and played at ACU,
Aveling Christian University, but now he's doing like marine stuff

(25:20):
and doing CrossFit. Crazy dude like hurts his knuckles on
purpose and like goes and yeah, slams his head into walls.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
But sick. My job was to turn everything in my hand.
So terrible. Yeah, he's a guy needs to chill out. Yeah,
he needs a chill something. It's not that deep. I'll
hook you up.

Speaker 7 (25:37):
But he is.

Speaker 6 (25:40):
He's standing there and he misses the tackle and I'm like, dude,
I'm talking like this little kid. This dude was on
like Friday Night tikes. He was one of those running
backs like from back in the day that You're like, oh,
kid's not seven years old. And he's running through the
hole and I like get down to tackle him. And
he's just like grunting, running like two hundred and forty

(26:01):
pounds of ball of muscles.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
Just help me.

Speaker 6 (26:07):
And I'm like, oh, yeah, here we go. Yeah, he
comes and smokes my ass. I get laid out. They
had the huge you know, jumbo trump.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
Are you looking up? So I'm like, all right, I
hop up real quick. I'm like that didn't hurt.

Speaker 6 (26:19):
And my head's buzzing and I get ready for the
next play and I hear the whole crowd go oh,
and I'm like looking Around'm like what's going on. They
replayed it like six times. Dude on the jump just
trucking me over and over like all my buddies, all
my any girl I ever had a chance with any.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
And he thought about it out the windows for the
rest of your life.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
I was like, this isn't for me. I got to
learn quick. Yeah, that's the only thing i'mna be good at.
I do remember the hit that I was like, I
think I'm done with this. I remember seeing stars.

Speaker 4 (26:55):
I started having concussions in my junior and senior year
pretty fairly regularly.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
You could probably tell just from talking to him, you know. Yeah,
let's see what happened. Yeah, that's what I happened seeing
stars bro Yes, constantly, constantly, but seven that maybe we're
my thirty five seven times seven is forty nine. There
you go, There you go. You said thirty five. I'm

(27:27):
just glad he didn't ask me that we're good.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
Happened.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
I got some more questions for you.

Speaker 4 (27:33):
And it's kind of like an old truck that you
hadn't started in a while, and you go in there
and you you turn it, it's like round, you.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
Know, chantastic, this starts running. That's your brain. Yeah, that's
right now.

Speaker 4 (27:48):
Well that's my math brain. Okay, the other part of
my brain. I mean there's a big chunk of it
that stays pretty fired up all the time.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
Yeah, math brain. Those I made no bones about that.
You're cting out right now. You're in the middle of
a story.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
I just remember when I was like done with it,
and I haven't really I don't really miss it, honestly. Yeah, like,
and I loved it.

Speaker 4 (28:06):
I mean it was all I did like high schools,
and I played baseball too, but I find myself missing baseball.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
I don't miss football. You want you're gonna push bone
into playing football.

Speaker 6 (28:16):
I don't miss the I miss like hanging out with
your buddies, But I don't miss my shoulder feeling like
it's about to fall off my lower back.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (28:26):
Yeah, I tore my rotator cuff my labor and then
a rotator cuff here, and I never got it fixed.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
And my thing now is like a forty one year
old man, like, does that is it really worth it?
I mean, I don't know, because I do feel like
I always wonder that, Like from your perspective, now, it
teaches you a whole lot.

Speaker 7 (28:43):
Man.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
It's your first any any team sport, especially like in
the locker room and stuff. It it's your first go
at a little bit of independence where your parents aren't
over your shoulder washed. Your school is period, but sports
like school doesn't really you don't really you're not passionate
about that, like getting in the locker room with your boys,
or like like freaking winning a state championship game by three. Yeah,

(29:05):
that's probably pretty much. That's something that you'll remember and
be grateful for. Yeah, now is it worth it? Thirty
years past that's what I'm Is it worth Okay, like
your shoulders shack?

Speaker 2 (29:14):
Did it? Don't you have some shoulders? Yeah? Yeah, my
right one from what basketball? Okay?

Speaker 4 (29:18):
So do you feel like now you would would you
swap your basketball memories to have your shoulder back?

Speaker 1 (29:26):
No?

Speaker 3 (29:26):
Okay, I mean because I mean it doesn't really hurt
that bad anymore. But but no, man, I mean twenty
years sure. Basketball is a huge part of my you know, childhood,
and I got to do some awesome things and travel
all over the country playing it, and.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
At the moment like god, oh we got practice here, Oh,
no doubt, no doubt. And it's not football, right, it's not.
It's it's not. It's not banging your head up against
something somebody else for or basketball guys getting ct or No, no,
it's pretty nice.

Speaker 6 (29:55):
A lot of football dudes aren't. Now now they got
like Vice's helmets they have, Yeah, they're there's. We didn't
have right el speed flexes. Yeah, and it felt like
I had a pillow on my head. And now it's
like back then, my grandpa had missing teeth and his
high school picture because he didn't have face mask. I'm
like tough moving my granddad's eighty five. Okay, yeah, he's

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getting up there now.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
Granddads are awesome. I know he has no idea what's
going on? Really? Yeah? I feel bad. He's like, what
are you doing?

Speaker 6 (30:25):
I'm like, I got a meeting with Spotify and Apple
And he's like, hell yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
Maybe maybe yeah, maybe yeah, maybe might have it right.
Maybe it just doesn't give it.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
Being from Texas, did you uh, we've hunted Texas a
few times, we've down there. Yeah, I don't think we
don't need your house down there.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
Fished a little bit. Did you grow up doing any
of that? Yeah? I grew up.

Speaker 6 (30:51):
I showed pigs and then work cutting horses for a
little bit. Showed pigs. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
You show uh this swine yeah sick.

Speaker 6 (31:00):
So you raise, you raise your pig usually okay, so
it's very much like a human like they give you
a pig, yes, who does well? No, will you go
and buy the pig, a piglet a pig lit? Yes,
you buy a swine. And when you buy the swine
you usually pay. I mean people pay two hundred and
fifty grand for these pigs, three.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
Hundred grand, four hundred grand. You go up to Iowa
and they got pigs herself for like four hundred grand?
Own business?

Speaker 6 (31:25):
Dude?

Speaker 2 (31:25):
Four where's your ro oi? And that well, that's like
the simone biles of pigs, you know, like that's.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
The Are you gonna go make four hundred grand showing
this pig around the country.

Speaker 6 (31:35):
That's like the one that does twenty flips and the
one that like freaking runs a four four forty? You know.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
But where do you judge a pig? Get?

Speaker 5 (31:44):
What does he do?

Speaker 6 (31:45):
Though?

Speaker 3 (31:49):
That sausage of that pig will be though you really
like mud? I mean, do you if you are making this?

Speaker 2 (31:54):
One's the one I'm just saying, how do you judge
a pig for being a pig?

Speaker 6 (31:59):
So? Oh, think about like a bodybuilder, the one with
the biggest ass and the most you know, chiseled upper level.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
You go ass first, How you explained, dude?

Speaker 6 (32:13):
You gotta go where you look first, and then we're
talking about the pigs chiseled ass or the.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
Body we're making a comparison.

Speaker 6 (32:21):
So when there, for you're just the most lean, strong,
filled out full pig strides with every walk.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
It doesn't walk like this, it walks like this. Oh yeah, yeah,
it's blowing pig. Yeah, and then you get its head
up and it's walking like that. It's just like doing
the thing on the thing. That's a good that's a
good pig.

Speaker 4 (32:45):
How to keep your show pig from running? So you
don't want them to run. Although this one right here,
that's a good looking pig. Let me see it looks
like the one on the right with the pinky looking pig.

Speaker 6 (32:55):
Yeah, you see how it's like toe is like that
and yeah, looks like about to pick up like the
way it's toe bins. So it's big on the foot genetics.
So if their toes are pointed out, then that just
throws off all their squareness.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
You remember that girl used today with pointed out toes.
God very well. Yeah, she could throw a baseball with
her foot those.

Speaker 6 (33:18):
Curve I know exactly what you're talking about, walking down
the hallway just toes in.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
So you raise pigs, Yeah, we did that. You said
one pig pig from where's your best pigs name? Bacon?
I named one bacon named one ham name on port Oh.
He's kind of like a little joke.

Speaker 6 (33:39):
But my dad owned a barbecue place way back in
the day and interesting, so we always just named our
pigs after what he cooked.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
Did you ever cook your pigs? Showy time? Really you
just feel like thanks for the ribbon, No, no you
So you get forced. So that's like another thing.

Speaker 6 (33:59):
A lot of people will be like, you show pigs
like you're hurting pigs, you're killing pigs, you're amanizing pigs,
but you're you're basically they get treated like a human.
They get treated better than they ever would have got
treated in the first place.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
But you know, you're feeding them.

Speaker 6 (34:13):
And then you go to the first county show and
someone sponsors your pig, and then you go to a
major which is like San Antonio, Austin.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
Wow, and they.

Speaker 6 (34:22):
Actually buy your pig World series. Yeah, so you can
the pig World the showcase. There's a Kirkshill showcase where
all the guilts together and this is crazy.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
Crazy in Texas.

Speaker 4 (34:36):
So you got all these pigs and then when they
when they're done, you just like thanks for the work.
You're you're breaking yeah wow yeah.

Speaker 6 (34:47):
But usually they like take them, fatten them up for
a year and then they'll be like, hey, do you
want your pig? Do you want to buy it back
or do you want it to go to market? And
on the shelves.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (34:57):
So honestly, if we didn't have of all the showing
and stuff, I don't know if there's like a lot
of bacon.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
You know.

Speaker 6 (35:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
So did you grow up on a ranch? Did you
keep did you keep it? Pig?

Speaker 6 (35:07):
So I did grow up on a ranch, and then
when my parents got divorced, we moved to I moved
to the golf course and my dad moved to Abilene,
and so I would go up there.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
The country club member then know what to do when
they saw a pig when you're O, no, no, I
mean it's.

Speaker 6 (35:25):
Not a country club though. We're talking to Stephenville, Texas.
We're talking you hit a ball on it rolls for
like one hundred miles track cup.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 (35:33):
And so we moved there and then we had a
piece of land. So I shot I think like five
bucks six bucks during high school and then shot a
few dough out there, went to South Texas to shoot.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
That's like where you want to go, like Tula area
down there, and.

Speaker 6 (35:49):
Went down there, shot like one hundred and fifty it
square one hundred and fifty that buck and that was
a really nice buck. That's when I've gotten yeah, and uh,
and then we went I mean, dove hunting is my
favorite thing to do, though, and quail hunting. Went down
to Mexico, went hunted for blue quail.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
So tell me about that. I don't know what that is.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
So we get down to Mexico. Part of Mexico. I
don't know.

Speaker 6 (36:13):
It's like a Haidalgo area, like Buffalo Gap part of Texas.
It's called Buffalo Gap Land Reservation.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
See a little bit.

Speaker 6 (36:21):
Yeah, brown burlap sacks. You had a bunch of like
over your head. We get in there, Spanish clothing, dude. Yeah, yeah,
and you know that's literally the wall is right there
and they're coming through and so you're camping out there
and you're camping. Yeah, so we went like no service,
no shoes, no problems, no problem.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
Yeah. That's a new song. Actually it is a huge song.
You just graduated just war and I'm still learning. I'm
still learning only old albies. We'll get into that later.

Speaker 7 (37:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (37:05):
We we go down here though, and we go Hunty's
blue quail. So we're walking these fields. I got my
bird dog running and then my boss has his ten
bird dogs running, so they're all there. We're really running
like three at one time because we don't want to
run ten no sense, Yeah, and so we run three
spread them out were unsps or yeah, so he runs dkays,

(37:27):
which is my dog's like a Dutch cuts aar.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
So then that's like a whole nother world of like.

Speaker 6 (37:34):
Basically Americans took gsps and let Joe, you know, mate
with Mary's dogs, and then Joe and Mary have up
twelve gsps that are genetically just crazy not there, you know,
like chocolate labs and stuff. Yeah, yeah, easy, yeah, Yeah,
they got lost, dude. How when's the last time you
saw a skinny chocolate labounds?

Speaker 2 (37:55):
Very fair enough enough? Well, you probably take care of
your dog. He's wild man. Yeah yeah.

Speaker 6 (37:59):
But so we're running all our dogs on the quail.
And the funny thing about blue quail is that they
don't fly. They run when they see you. And in
Mexico there's not a lot of grass. So we just
chased birds, dude, the whole weekend, Like we down this field.
They'd just be running righting right in front of us,
and then we chase them down here, and then we

(38:19):
chase them.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
Over here, and then dogs not getting them up.

Speaker 6 (38:22):
Well, no, because they run, blue quail are known for running,
and so my boss he did not research the place before,
and we spend about a week out there, and I
just remember like walking up and like from this to
this light pole, they just be running, just be running
ground blast them or no, because my dog would be riding,

(38:44):
sprinting off into the hills.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
And do they ever fly up?

Speaker 6 (38:48):
No?

Speaker 2 (38:49):
I mean they did, but they if they didn't spook,
it'd be way out there. And then you're did you shoot?
Did you shoot them?

Speaker 1 (38:55):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (38:56):
We shot no.

Speaker 6 (38:58):
You see, we were there for five days, man, and
it was like my first big ever like big bird hunt.
And uh now he's texting me like four times to
go to eye one chicken hunt and I'm like, no,
I'm good dude.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
You you broke it with me. Oh I feel that.
So you trained? Did you train your own dog? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (39:18):
I trained my dog, and uh I trained like a
few other people's dogs. And then I saw that dog
sitting there. His name's Kronos, which means god of time.
Real deep there, A.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
Little deep for a dog's man.

Speaker 6 (39:30):
Real seriously for a twenty year old. Yeah, it's just
like a songwriter coming out. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
Well they were best friends just watching that. But I
don't know where we're going, so you train.

Speaker 6 (39:53):
Yeah, And I trained him and because he his last
owner betrayed him, and so I was like, hey, what
about this dog, Like why him, like left him? He
lived in South Dakota before he came to Texas, and
he left him out in this cage in the winter
for like two weeks and someone came. He was an
alcoholic came or alcoholic something was going on, and they

(40:18):
went and picked up the dog, took him down to
Texas and I took him started training them. And the
most annoying thing about training dogs is someone will bring
you a shit sue and.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
Say that it's a duck dog.

Speaker 6 (40:31):
He'll be like, I want this thing to retrieve ducks
and you're like, a shit sue was not made for
that man, Like this is not gonna work out.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
But anyways, to take the dog home.

Speaker 6 (40:40):
And now we've been together for like four four years
whatever five years.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
He's dope. He's the coolest dog ever.

Speaker 6 (40:49):
And he has a biting problem though, so I think
he's bitten two people and if he bites one more person,
he gets put down. So yeah, can't leave any door opens,
can't let him go anywhere alone. He gets all weird
when other guys go up to him, and like, if
I brought him in here, I'd be like nervous if
y'all put y'all's hand out.

Speaker 3 (41:07):
Because yeah, he'll just like a bad bite or like
like a yeah, dude, like what got you into it?
What what made you want to start training birds?

Speaker 6 (41:16):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (41:17):
Dogs? Yeah? Bird dogs? But we uh, I don't know.

Speaker 6 (41:20):
He my buddy had a actually where I kept my
pig is the best friend of that guy, and he
was like, hey, do you need a job?

Speaker 2 (41:28):
Yeah? Full circle and everything. Everything's a soga. Nothing's just
like it's a pig that I bought. It's like, no,
this pig was raised in Australia and over on some
boat and got beat up and buy any nice pigs.

Speaker 6 (41:42):
Though.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
My dad was like two grand taking or leave it?
And uh He's like, yeah, my dog's owner betrayed him.
There's gotta be something special about it. Though, you know
you're true. You gotta well kudos on you for sticking
with the bider. You know what I mean. Some people
just want to well, he probably had a bad life
before you.

Speaker 6 (42:02):
Man, That's what I try to think. And I'm like,
if I'm not around, don't take them on a walk.
Don't because that's both the times that it's happens when
I'm not around, all my buddies are walking them. And
then I get a phone call and I'm out wherever
and they're like, hey, your dog has bit someone. And
I'm like, yeah, good, send the police report to me
and police reports and I'll pay for that and I'll

(42:25):
provide his ravy shots. And then this person has to
go get tested for rabies and then you gotta pay
for their rabies bill.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
And yeah, it's a whole thing like saga. Yeah, it's
a saga. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (42:35):
So how did you decide, all right, I'm not going
to be a pig farmer, I mean a pig shower.
I'm gonna pursue music. How did that even get in
your brain?

Speaker 6 (42:43):
Yeah? So then covid started, and I feel like covid
changed obviously the whole world world. Yeah, but now you're
seeing like a weird thing with all these artists that
are on TikTok and they're on Instagram, you know, and
they learned how to play guitar over.

Speaker 3 (42:59):
Covid and watched, you know, made a couple of videos.
One went viral yeah, here they are. And I'm not
like a super big hater on on Zack Bryan, but
let's go viral say something. Yeah, I mean, but I
learned how to play plays Zach Bryan songs. But now
that's the last thing I want to do is play
Zach Brian songs, you know. So I learned how to

(43:21):
play because I was watching his whole blow up thing,
like back in like the Headed South days, like back
when everyone was just quiet and making music, you know,
but whenever he was like putting out Head and South
and Revival and like all his first albums and uh.
And then I was listening to on SoundCloud and I
was like, I want to be able to do that.
And all my buddies were playing Fortnite and I was like, mom,

(43:42):
well you buy me a guitar. And I started learning
from Jason Edie and he does country music too, and
and then Courtney Patten and like my hometown, and I
just learned how to play guitar. I didn't think much
of it and just kind of played it during high
school and like it's one of those things that you're
an athlete, so you don't want to be like.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
Oh, trust me, I play guitar, you know, because all
your buddies are like, oh yeah, and the choice words
for that, yeah yeah, Like you don't want to be
that guy that's with you.

Speaker 4 (44:11):
Well, it's too it's too it's too far, you know
for me each other. You can't play football and be
like the sweet little guitar exactly.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
Yeah, I feel you. I know exactly what you're talking.

Speaker 6 (44:21):
And like, I really think I would have chased music
sooner if it wasn't for just like everyone's thoughts in
your hometown.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
You know, like that masculinity.

Speaker 6 (44:31):
Yeah, Like I played a gig and everyone be like, ooh,
you're playing a gig, bro, And I'd be like, all right,
well not that deep, like I'm just playing. It's fun, yes,
And and so then I learned how to play more
and more. And then I got to like my freshman
year at college, and I was still just covering stuff,
Like I'd written three songs. First song I ever wrote, Terrible,

(44:51):
went and got it produced in Fort Worth for four
hundred bucks. I played acoustic on it. I'm I don't
need to play acoustic on my tracks. And then I'll
cut another song, cut another song, and and went to
college and like once you go to college, You're like,
I don't care what these people think, like they don't,
I'm gonna do whatever I want. A bit yeah, yeah,
and you realize that the world's not your hometown. You know,
it's a lot bigger than that, and that does still

(45:13):
mean something to me, but sure you. I wrote a
song at work I was I had no guitar, I
had a melody in my head, and I was just like, well, darling,
you confused, wrote that like verse that song.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
I don't know what it means.

Speaker 6 (45:28):
Melody's great, but wrote it. And when the next day
I was like, Okay, this is a good song. I
was like, I think it's really catchy.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
I have no idea.

Speaker 6 (45:37):
I've never posted anything. DM all my band on Instagram.
Hit all them up. Everyone goes to tech or goes
to school a Lubbock and I still got the same
dudes with me now, but they're doing online school and everything.
But DM Dmal we got in the studio together. I
cut my first song for four hundred bucks, posted it
on TikTok. That day, my fiddle player was videoing me.

(46:00):
I was like, why the hell are you videoing me?

Speaker 2 (46:02):
Dude? That's that's weird. And I posted it and it
blew up.

Speaker 6 (46:07):
So then I was like, I'm not just going to
be another Like I can't just be another TikTok blow up,
fall off, be done. So bought a trailer, bought a van,
popped on support dates with Josh Abbott, just started going,
started rolling two fifty a show. I'm living off distro kid.
I'm like telling the band, I'm like, yeah, we can
get pizza, we can get this, And I'm like checking
my bank account in the corner. I'm like, I don't

(46:29):
know been there, but yeah we and then it all
just started from there. Like the one thing I'm thankful
for is though that I did is like get on
the road, be real life as as soon as possible.
Learn out there trying to do it, you know, like
post that video and then back it up like instantly.
You got to get in front of people's faces or

(46:49):
they're gonna forget. You know, who's some of your Who's
someone like your inspirations? Like who who inspires you? Who
do you look up to?

Speaker 2 (46:56):
Like Texas Country or like Nationhville Country, some of your dudes?

Speaker 6 (47:02):
I think someone like my favorite if I had to
name like four favorite artists from any space. It'd be
like I love the way ed Shearon rides, love the
way I mean like as much as like everything's changed
with the whole justin thing. I think he wrote some
really great songs justin Bieber, I think he did. I

(47:24):
think he did great stuff like first dude to like
play a victim in all his songs and yeah, new
records pretty good, it's pretty good.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
I think it's I didn't love that super different. I
didn't love dais I liked you don't like me up
in my head? Is that that song you and ma
that Michael Jackson Sounder song whatever is. Yeah, that's pretty good.
I don't I don't know where the daisy's came in

(47:53):
on that song though, But I'm more of a mm
hmmmmmmmm Yeah, I'm more of the Yeah. Yeah, it's weird, man.

Speaker 4 (48:03):
I kind of have like my categories, like if I
want to go like sugar pop and I go listen
to some Beaver stuff like yeah, stay over there.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
Yeah, I don't try to be in this guy. Yeah,
yeah exactly.

Speaker 3 (48:13):
It's cool to me though, that that you like, you know,
we listen to the record, it's awesome and and like
you would think that your inspiration would be those guys
Josh Abbatt and those cats, and they probably are I'm
sure that.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
I'm sure you've got a great appreciation one of that.

Speaker 3 (48:26):
But like I'm the same way, man, Like I love
going out and listen to different melodies, different pop melodies
and rock melodies and R and B melodies and rap stuff,
you know, and see how they're they throw words and
the cadences that they use and the rhymes they use
and and kind of like all that.

Speaker 6 (48:40):
It's kind of like, where can you like, Okay, you
see this pop song has like if you I don't
really care about numbers when I'm in a writing room,
you know, but like you got two billion streams on
this pop song, but one of the biggest country songs
has a million, you know, at the same caliber of
success basically in each industry. And so I'm like, if

(49:01):
you heard what I'm writing for the next record, it's like, okay,
now you really hear Like I'm trying, I'm finding you,
you know, your own little lane of what you like
to do. And and so I love listening to like
even like the Love Yourself. Yeah, and and Ed wrote
that actually really yeah, it's you wrote that song.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
That's crazy.

Speaker 6 (49:21):
But I think if you can mix something like that
with something traditional Texas, it's just going to be, you know,
something different. But I grew up listening to like Turnpike,
Yeah justin you know ed and then you got I
love Benson Boone stuff. A lot of people hate him
right now.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
I don't know. He's just why do people hate him?
I don't know. Do is that to flip off the
stage guy? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, people do hate him. You
had a moment.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
Yeah, have you if you're listening to those water Blue guys. Yes,
we open up for Middland and is it Jesse the Oh.
I don't know any of them. There's a lead singer.

Speaker 6 (49:59):
He already has like five albums out, the best dude
I've ever met, songs or bangers.

Speaker 4 (50:04):
Man, But they do something like you were talking about,
where you kind of mixing them. Like there's one tune
I remember called Feeling the Miles that was like a
it's kind of like a Fleetwood thing, but it's with
the Texas sound and it's a it's a different it's
in its own lane.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
Man.

Speaker 3 (50:20):
But yeah, I really I dig I dig that stuff too, man.
I know exactly what isn't it? I think water Blue
like I think they were like they were like all
in their own group. They were like all super and
then they got that they had families like all stars
and then they yeah, they all got back together and
like wanted to do it. They killing you know who
a Texas go don't know if you know him, but
Stony LaRue. Yeah, I'll pick feed down to all right,

(50:49):
can you do it?

Speaker 7 (50:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (50:51):
I have to look at the lyrics, bro.

Speaker 5 (50:53):
I remember when you just.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
Small jump just me, I was ringing for the boulevard. Yeah,
and I saw you.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
I feel so hard.

Speaker 7 (51:20):
And everever guy only moon lie, let I feel the
first sorry, see the night.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
I never feel so far.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
I'm trying to mirrory it you bye my side.

Speaker 1 (51:42):
I can see with that the city li.

Speaker 7 (51:46):
A fast whildly around to my fee down.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
Such a ground.

Speaker 6 (51:55):
As Yeah, man, Stoney, I want to cover a Bart
Crow or like a Stony song on an album just
yeah they deserve it.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
Bart's great.

Speaker 6 (52:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:06):
I opened up for Bart actually an exit in in
town and he really he was awesome man, Yeah, yeah
he was awesome.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
He was awesome. I love this.

Speaker 6 (52:14):
Yeah, those like them c CR Rustinading Ragleed Turnpike. It
feels to me though, like you say that about Casey Donahue. Yeah,
this guy's great.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
Man.

Speaker 3 (52:25):
You say that about like you're writing for your next
record and you're kind of getting there with the melodies
and and kind of changing.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (52:31):
Dressed Down was one on your record that kind of
felt that way to me, kind of felt like viby
and and and like and it had a different thing
than sort of the rest of the record, and it
felt more more not poppy, but it felt out of
the acoustic band land.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
It feels like it's in it's its own thing, you
know what I mean. Kind of it's like.

Speaker 6 (52:53):
We wrote last night and like wrote something very similar
to it, you know, and like I'm loving that that
anything pop could eat like a don't and you can fall.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
Into that pocket and really grow with it.

Speaker 6 (53:04):
Like that's my favorite type of type of songs and
I can I love also like you know, a train
beat of nine or whatever.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
But yeah, that just down vibe that would be really
cool to That's cool, man, kind of what I'm going for.
I remember. Uh, the one I liked was Hill All Downs.
That was I like that too. You have some good
stuff on there. Man.

Speaker 6 (53:24):
I hope people realize that it's like a you're dying
on two hills, believe there's a god in the sky.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
You know, I'll make you one out and I'll die
on that songwriter. But I got it, you got it?
What does that mean? I'm like, but I don't get math,
so surely somebody else there. You know, it's good. You
got to be good and bad at something.

Speaker 6 (53:43):
You got to give and take.

Speaker 3 (53:45):
What's the uh, what's the the the blow up been
like for you? Being so young and being you know,
kind of like you threw a one video up. You
get you grab a butt or a by trailer and
go do the thing. And now you're in Nashville Gap Management,
You're you're opening, You're having Miranda Lambert work with you
and opening for all these people.

Speaker 6 (54:06):
Like, what's it been like at such a young age. Yeah,
I think I think it's super It's been super cool.
It's been fun, it's been you know, interesting, but it's
been like it was, honestly off the bat, I would.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
Say, now it's fun.

Speaker 6 (54:22):
If you went back like a year, I was a mess, dude,
Like I was like overwhelmed, Yes, just overwhelmed. You know,
like I put out a video, I had to buy
a vand I could barely buy a pair of shoes.
At that point, I was like mom put down, Like
my mom was giving me. Like I'm not I wasn't
treated any worse, Like I wasn't struggling. But I mean

(54:43):
I was a college kid, you know, I was just
trying to make beer money at the feed store and
hanging out. And I put a song out and it
just blows up, you know, and like a lot of
people now are like, well, thank God for TikTok. Then
kids are so lucky, you know, like they did whatever.
But like my first show was in front of eighteen
hundred people and I was like shaking.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
Out the legs.

Speaker 6 (55:02):
I mean, show up and we're covering. I mean, we
don't have a bass player. We got this two playing
power chords as the bass player with like his low
end turned up. Yeah, we got the right guy. I'm
all right, which is the same band I still have,
and we've gotten a lot better from where we used
to be. But good but Reckam Texas Forever record. But

(55:29):
I mean it's just we played that eighteen hundred cap
and then we're just traveling all of a sudden and
it's like, Okay, a year ago today, I was literally
sitting in a dorm room with all my buddies going
to the tailgates, and now I'm in Minnesota on a Saturday.
You know, I'm playing to a bunch of people I
don't know, and for a lot of people, it's like
everything they've been waiting for, you know, and for you,

(55:50):
you're like, this is everything that like I wanted, but
I never knew it would happen this fast, you know,
Like it's almost like it's almost like ever since I
think I dropped sober two months ago, and I was like,
after that song it went super viral, did great, and

(56:12):
I was like.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
I don't want to worry about that for a little bit, you.

Speaker 6 (56:15):
Know, like I need time to catch up in my
mind and like make this real in my mind, because
this seems so unrealistic to me right now standing in
front of y'all, Like I would be at the concert
and I'd be like, thank y'all so much, like thank
y'all for showing up.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
This doesn't even make sense to me.

Speaker 6 (56:29):
But like I don't want to be like that anymore,
you know, I want to be like this does make
sense to me, you know, like I belong to be here,
Like I worked my tail off, you know, like you
gotta give yourself credit. And for a long time, I
was just like I just got lucky. I just and
like kind of an imposter syndrome thing. You know. You're like, bro,
like you have two co writers that I write with,
Reed Auten that I'm like me and him. Right, He's

(56:52):
one of the best songwriters I know. And he's like,
he puts out some great songs and he's like, well,
your songs just seem to do better than mine, And
I'm like, yeah, you deserve it, though, dude, you've been
working at it for six years. You know, such a
weird thing. I totally understand. But you did it right, man,
I mean you you recognized early. And I think it's

(57:12):
it's it speaks to your intelligence to go, all right,
I got to start gigging immediately, right, and you started
cutting your teeth in there on on small shows and
playing your way up, you know, and and and man,
I mean, look, it's it has it has to be overwhelming,
especially to just to pop on social media, and there's
been a lot of really really.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
Great It's also easier.

Speaker 6 (57:34):
At the same time, you know, it did help out
a ton, Like we just went to Minnesota and we've
never been there, and there's a ton of people there.

Speaker 4 (57:40):
But you know what, there's always that thing. I mean
for back in the day, there was frigging MySpace, and
there was all these other things there, and there were
way Yeah, vin is a great example, and there were
ways to get your music out there. And I don't
think you need to discredit yourself that, yeah, that you're
using what's available to you, exactly. That's all every anybody
ever did, Yeah, whether it was gigs or or at
one point it was it was being an opening act,

(58:02):
you know, and then all of a sudden, it if
you're on a TV show, well now your music gets heard.
Well now man, you guys are using social media and
and honestly, you're right, there's a lot of hate that
goes on with it, but it also has brought some
really great music around and some artists that never would
have got their their their start, yeah, or respect or
every ever even gotten listened to if it wasn't for

(58:25):
it's it's a part of the business now. I think
at this point it's been accepted and I think you've
done a great job of going, hey, man, I'm putting
this song out and it's working, and now I'm playing
shows and and and and and and in the long run,
I think you're gonna be way better off for building
a solid foundation on live music and also supplementing that

(58:45):
with some social media stuff.

Speaker 2 (58:46):
I think you're doing great, man. Don't sell yourself short.
How how how tough is it to be.

Speaker 3 (58:51):
A twenty year old and move away from home and
just go just couldn't just go buy a van and
throw a band together and and be like, hey, let's
go gig. So I mean, like that's another the credit
to you, man, for it's it's easy to be comfortable, bro.
It's it's it's easy to sit at home and and yeah,
you put a song up and that maybe did a
little bit. Well let's try another one, and I'm not
so sure. Let's let's let's do some more and maybe
get to a point where we can go play.

Speaker 2 (59:12):
But there's no hearing too that they're all going to.

Speaker 3 (59:13):
But it's it's really hard to chase your dreams, bro.
It is really hard, and it's even way harder to
catch them. And and so like you're on that path
now of it's attainable. You can see it, you can
smell it, and and and and yeah, man, I mean
it feels like to me that you're doing everything you
can and the opportunities that God's given you to to
go grab those stuff.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
Yeah, don't don't.

Speaker 6 (59:32):
That's the number one thing. I'm like, there's no way
on accident that I d M four dudes. They all said, yes,
we went and toward not sordain, bro. Like my whole
band is from the church, Like I'm from Stephenville, you know,
like raised right, you know, to raise with a lot,

(59:53):
raise a lot better than a lot of people have.

Speaker 2 (59:55):
Had the opportunity to be raised. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (59:56):
Sure, And and it's like none of that was on accident,
you know. I think it's all just going the way
that you know, God has it in his mind, because
I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
We could have never done that.

Speaker 6 (01:00:08):
No one, no one in the music industry that you know,
could have done it without you know, he's playing.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
But our dreams work.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:00:15):
I think you you think of this, you have this thought, Man,
wouldn't this be amazing? Wouldn't this be incredible?

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
How do I get to that?

Speaker 6 (01:00:21):
Well?

Speaker 4 (01:00:22):
Maybe it's a social media post and then all of
a sudden, you're moving towards it right and you're trying
to You're trying to navigate this ship and also be
good to people in the process, you know, and it's
a hard thing to do, man, But uh, I think
you're being real smart about it. You've got some great leadership,
you know people around you, and I think that has
a lot to do with it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
Just keep trusting zeb. You know, he knows everything right
zeb sometimes he's getting toller too. Keep growing. He knows
what I gotta be up and when I got to
go to bed, and what I don't want to do,
and what I do want to do.

Speaker 3 (01:00:54):
At this point, it's all you gotta worry about. At
this point, it's all you gotta worry about.

Speaker 6 (01:00:58):
It.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
Good for you, man. We're proud know you, and proud
you're making music and appreciate it and can't wait to
hear more.

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
Out of me, y'all.

Speaker 6 (01:01:05):
I've been seeing y'all talking all the time. I'm like,
shut up and let me just meet y'all. Bro, Stop
popping up on my freaking feet.

Speaker 3 (01:01:13):
That's all hard, But yeah, man, congrats on everything, dude. Yeah,
the pump for you and thanks for coming and hanging
out with us.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
That's awesome. I can't believe I got one question? Who
is Simba's dad in the Lion King? I don't know.
He's too young, bro, I'm not what else? Okay, all right,
that has nothing to do with it all all right?
Who did Michael Jordan's play college ball with? Too young?

Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
You would have known I am too young for that
was it was with Michael Jordan a professional baseball player
or basketball player?

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
Okay, basketball, he was both. He was both. Got too young?
Are you for real? Guys? You know it's not really that.
It doesn't really point to the fact that you're young.
It just points to the fact that we're old.

Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
So, hey, man, can you anything about Texas? I can answer?
Can you can you give us? Uh?

Speaker 3 (01:02:12):
Can you give us one off the record? And then
we'll go into our favorite section. If you want to,
just do like a verse in chorus of It's half step.

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
But yeah, we'll do something to have step. Yeah, one
of your favorite ones off the record. You need to
pick alright, not lose it. You gave me one. End
this thing a little bit good? Hey, sandbags coming and
clutch h Yeah, this next one this one, but uh yeah,

(01:02:42):
this one. I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:02:43):
I've always thought about the word full and been like
the word full, like saying I'm a full free is
really cool. So I wrote a song called full, Yeah
you did, and uh go something like this.

Speaker 7 (01:02:54):
It works like a charm every time you come me
up at night wandering in my trucks and drive home
and sweety.

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
What can't I say? Don't say much from my heart
to forget how goodbye was?

Speaker 7 (01:03:14):
Don't make sense, but sure ends up to noth and
live to lose. I'm fool for.

Speaker 6 (01:03:25):
You.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
I'm trying to keep.

Speaker 5 (01:03:28):
My cool, little Phoebe. There ain't no use.

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
And you can fool me once. Maybe that's all right
as long as your promise to fool me twice. I'm
fool fool for you. That's just what I do.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
Come on, man, some show like that Great Man. I
had that melody s talking my head. Joel was like, yeah,
it's great man, But did you right that way? Ie?

Speaker 6 (01:04:01):
That one with Dan Ali House again with him best dude,
one of the best dudes I ever met.

Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
Killer singer to kill, I mean kills. He's one of
them triple threat guys. He can ye great, Yeah, and
just good, dude, we got some cut we gotta cut together.
Really Yeah, that Landy Wilson thing. Oh not back in
the day when we do uh.

Speaker 6 (01:04:22):
What's it called? When we like when we do voice
mean most for everything. I like, you sing one and
I'm gonna sing one. Yeah, you're gonna do something cool that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
Yeah, and then you can follow his melodies. That's nice, yes,
but yeah him, Ryan Beaber, Neil so four, but Ryan Beaver,
he is that's all Texas boy. Yeah, he's like the
most odd but genius dude. Yeah, I love Ryan, but yeah,
Ryan's great, Neil's great. All the guys are great now
they're they're all really good dudes. But yeah, that was awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:04:50):
Dude.

Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
Your voice is killer.

Speaker 3 (01:04:52):
Yeah, it's a cool like it's like a Texas thing,
like a red dirt.

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
You can you can tell.

Speaker 3 (01:04:57):
But but it's cool hearing you do melodies like that,
you know, yeah, like you know, it'd easy just to
sing one flat melody, but but to hear a read
dirt Texas guy do that kind of thing is pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
It also kind of sets you apart, I think from that.
I agree with that thing.

Speaker 3 (01:05:12):
Yeah, yeah, you're more than just that not that no offense.
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. We talked about this earlier. But
one thing we do is favorite songs. Git greatest slash
favorite and uh yeah you brought up alibis.

Speaker 6 (01:05:24):
Well sing it you big you big t Lawrence, Guy,
I love Tracy. Another one of my favorite songs. Sticks
and songs.

Speaker 2 (01:05:31):
Ye that a lot of people don't know that. Come on, yeah,
I don't know. Made sure oh any of that little wow,

(01:05:57):
they'll sing some alibis. You ready to sing it?

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
All right?

Speaker 6 (01:06:01):
Let me let me go to the corporates.

Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
Which part are you saying?

Speaker 7 (01:06:05):
I got every bar, she know' hose, every move hose
I had.

Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
A man can make.

Speaker 7 (01:06:12):
You can hear some telling that she knows every train
and can the bum, She knows how to gain, she
knows how to take, and so many time she's being
taken and food by those out of bies and lion

(01:06:36):
nyes and all the best sizes. Or no, she's hurting all.
She's being cheated on and pushed around and left alone.
Lord knows what I put her through her.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
And boy, you can beth ifrom can man knows how man,
thanks for coming and hanging man, Yeah, dude, thank you,
real deal man good for you.

Speaker 3 (01:07:17):
Debut album, Texas Forever. That's what it's called, right, Yeah,
I didn't screw that up? Uh rap record tecker, do
you do?

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
Both of them are just one? Just one, just one? Yeah.
Yeah that's pretty. That's dope. It's like guns up. Yeah.
I can't do it my pink though, But I like Texas.
In some state I got guns up y'all in they're like,
get out of the way. Yeah, like what what does
that mean?

Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
Dude?

Speaker 3 (01:07:44):
Turn of sideways though? Guns up y'all girts sideways. Uh hey, bro,
I'm a fan. Yeah, I like your stuff. Man, thanks
for coming on, Thanks for forgetting him in here and
setting it up.

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
Yeah, thanks for coming on. This to COVID sponsored show.
Oh man, I forgot bro. Get your little present, get
your little something something, oh well pared of COVID, dude,
just for you don't know. There you go there my size,
let's see open them up? What you wear like a
ten or something? Yes, I don't know. He's still growing.
He's still growings like I knew. I just graduated. He's
only fourteen.

Speaker 6 (01:08:19):
Make him move up.

Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
You gotta get so tired of that. I bet people
talk about your age all the time. You can tell
when I asked him, knowing when like moms coming, They're like, no,
I'm too old for you. I'm like, no, you're not.

Speaker 6 (01:08:29):
He no like that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:35):
Like that hang out, yo, ham Cot Bro. The move
Fosso question got him. It triggered him for a little
bit for a second. It didn't make me mad because
y'all are like, you're too young.

Speaker 1 (01:08:46):
No know that you have seen that movie.

Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
You still didn't know it though I didn't. Who did Jordan?
Who did Michael Jordan play college ball for?

Speaker 6 (01:08:53):
Hey?

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
Those are clean? Oh Noam pointed toes. Is that good
or bad? I know?

Speaker 6 (01:09:02):
I actually do need these because I played Rock the
Country and my boots got demolished.

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
Bro, there you go ten d on it. I appreciate
it to COVID, absolutely appreciate it all. Yeah, man, yeah,
no worries toes. You don't need pointy toes. You do
you do? Okay? Yeah? These are beat to something. And
then I think the camera saw my gum the whole
time right there. Oh nice? Oh sick dude. They probably

(01:09:27):
cheer that up.

Speaker 3 (01:09:28):
Yeah it tastes, Broaki come back, come back,

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.css-14f5ked{margin:0;word-break:break-word;display:-webkit-box;-webkit-box-orient:vertical;box-orient:vertical;-webkit-line-clamp:2;overflow:hidden;}Ep. 89: Swine Showings, Alibis, and Texas Forever with Hudson Westbrook