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September 9, 2025 79 mins

This week Reid and Dan host a set of brothers for another BROPOD. They are hosting Scott and Matt of the #1 country band, Parmalee. They immediately dive in on brother wars, taking punches to the face, and what growing up as Irish Twins looked like. Matt and Scott share how they passed time during quarantine by fishing in Alaska and why they believe salt water fish is superior to fresh water. They share their journey as a band and in a vulnerable moment Reid shares what it is like sharing all of this with his brother. The episode ends with a classic Travis Tritt Gravorite!

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Yo, what's up? You're off in God's Country with you boys.
As always Read and Dan isbel known as the Brothers Hunt,
where we take a weekly drive to the intersection of
country music and the great outdoors. Two things go together
like a CJ seven on a Sunday afternoon.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Or a burn barrel and a band packed brought to
you by meat Eater And.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
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Speaker 2 (00:48):
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Speaker 1 (00:54):
Shwe I bade.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Oh all right, I thought you got us pretty second
sometimes man, he got booed, you.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Should go second. So what I'm coming off the dome too.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
Yeah, but you have to rhyme with anything when you
say the first one true, he booed you.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
Yeah, ray man, you're fired right. Hey, uh we had
a bro pod today, another bro pod Scott and Matt
Thomas of Parmally who like car If you didn't go ahead, yeah,
you didn't know it. Their cousin is the bass player.

(01:35):
And then uh, they picked this guy up that played
at the same bar with him back in Carolinas.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
Another one of this family too. There's four of them
that are family ish. And then they picked another.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
Guy that's cool man, that's cool, cool assum do it together.
They're great dudes, great stories. Yeah. Man, just been a
staple in in country music and in Nashville for a
long time now, just continually putting out songs that the
people love and and going getting to the mountaintop over and.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Over and sound.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
They talk so cool too. I know, it's like a.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Carolina Their eyes are exactly the same. And thenst Crystal
bluestylu Cristi Blue. Yeah, I got a Crystie Blue.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
I think that's a girl I went to a high
school with what was the last name, Cristy Blue Blue.
No way, No, I'm just I mean, I.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
Did hear about a girl that the window high Schoolmam,
Crystal chandelier.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
That's such a lie, is it. Yes, you were the
one that told me that Crystal Chance chandelier. It was
chan I think that's like it was just Chandler. Was
Aunt Caro somebody Aunt Carrol knew it was like a
crystal chandelier.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
These guys are awesome. Yeah, they're a lot of fun
to listen to. You'll enjoy it. H something's cooking, know something?
Make it quick? Thanks, get code right, some make We're
already late. I can't believe I listened to two numbskulls
that don't know the word punctuation.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
Here we go again.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
You put up fellas loving it color foul five stars?

Speaker 1 (03:02):
Oh was that it great? Got the approval?

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Yeah, I'm with them. I didn't get their approval. I know,
I'll give you the approval. I'm I'm thankful for short ones. Hey,
we love y'all. We're relate to the our code rights.
You're gonna love these guys. Parmly they're awesome probably probably
probably properly properly probably parmally speed speed Speed speed Man.

(03:35):
We got a couple of brothers from another mother another
g C P bropod. This band has five total No.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
One singles and more than one point six b B
B billion streams. Toured with Train Kane Brown, Jake Going,
Brad Paisley, Walker Hayes, some North Carolina boys going and
raise Up. We got Scott and Matt Parmally Boys Boys
coming in with the cameo pants looking good.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
Time of the year where Carolina, Uh, Eastern Carolina, near Greenville.
Our little town is called Robertsonville, North Carolina.

Speaker 4 (04:14):
Three miles from parmer Lee, North Carolina. The town that
we named the band.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
After are y'all. Are y'all Tar Hills fans. We're pirates man.
We went to East Carolina. I know it's not the
same thing, and it's cool. Everybody, you know, half.

Speaker 4 (04:29):
The families, uh tar Hills have families like Duke. And
then we kind of grew up in Sea State actually
uh yeah, and our household was was State fans. So
we were just raised to pull against Carolina. I love
where that came from.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
I kind of I kind of like like meeting folks that, like,
especially from Tennessee and stuff like that. They're like everybody's
Tennessee fan. Everybody Tennessee.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
But like when somebody's like I'm a Vandy fan or
like I'm a Memphis fan, I'm like, okay, get with that.
I'm an Austin p fan. Okay, get with it. Keep dreaming.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Maybe one day, uh the church Clish school. Let's go pee,
I don't know that was freed hardman. You're right. I'm
just trying to think about small schools in Weston, see
that I remember. I don't know any Austin p fans. Yeah,
let's go.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
Thanks for hanging out man here. Yeah, having y'all. Uh
you said you're thirteen months apart.

Speaker 4 (05:21):
Yeah, yeah, Irish twins, I guess got the Yes, got's
the older brother.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
Older and wiser.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
Yeah, yeah, I could tell you ever. Have you ever
punched each other in the face. I don't think had
I punched down on the face. I heard twice actually
said you don't want to do it, dad, damn. The
only one I told him before he punched me. I said,
you realize I could kill you one punch and he said, yes, man,
I do. He's like, please, don't punch me in the face.

(05:46):
I mean this was like this is after the first
time I punched him, after he punched me one time
I grabbed him, held him down. It was like my
fists as big as your head. I was like please
and saw okay, man, I'll let him up. And I said,
you can't believe he pushed me. And about that time
and I saw black on the second into it yeah,

(06:09):
and then by the time it was like a flash
of black and I turned around and I was gonna
kill him, and I heard him down the state.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
There's just yeah, he told on mom. One got in trouble.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
I had a little other little brother. I forgot what
they're doing. They were being aggravating, so I thought you
were say I forgot his name.

Speaker 5 (06:25):
I forgot.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
They were just being aggravating.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
So I threw him in the closet real quick, shut
the door. And I'm like, I'm like twelve years older
than him, So I say, a little bro dang yeah,
and then you know he's yelling and screaming, so I
let him out. Well, I just sat on the couch
and didn't even think anything of it.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Well, all of a sudden he took a little stool
and just ran towards me, and.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
He just caught me just right up the chair.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
It was like I had to get his did little
one of two stitches and stuff.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
He was upset.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
After that. I was like, you got me. It was okay, yeah, yeah,
that's all right.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
I remember one time we were we were playing. I
was playing on the trampoline with a buddy of mine
and uh, we were just kind of pushing each other.
And I was probably what eight ten, maybe a little
bit older, twelve something like that. I can't remember. And
uh Dan was always white. He was lurking somewhere, you know,
he's always making sit and we were playing. It got
a little rough, and this dude was a couple of
years older than me. And I don't know if he

(07:29):
punched me or kicked me.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
Let me just pass the story to me. I was
in the kitchen eating a banana. I don't know why
I remember this. I was eating a banana and I
was looking out the window at them jumping, and like
they were just jumping like this, and all of a sudden, bro,
I was.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
I didn't grow till junior n he was time I was.
I was like four to seven as a freshman, I was.
I was always small, like little reed and IW this.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
Older neighbor jump and just kick him straight in the
name ignores me, I mean, like in the.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
Jean down, like knockout kidding. And I don't remember.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
I seriously don't remember getting from the banana to the trampoline.
All I know is I was eating that banana and
the next thing I knew I was I was on
him with my arm back, and I was like this
right here, and I had him down and I was
just about to let it go, and reizel Heim went, no,

(08:31):
that's good about scared? Yeah, Rick, sample you got so
many stories. I'm sure y'all did too. Yeahs sit here
all day?

Speaker 1 (08:47):
Yeah for sure.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
All right, let's do this here, I'll get it going.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
Sorry, we do a little thing, Scott Man, we do
a little thing. Hey, ray, can I get some more
in my head than my phonies? So argument sir.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
Knocked out already in her die, I'm gonna use that
he w w side of the head man, I'm gonna
say he's dropped the chair.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Sorry, I even't got to get a part of it.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
That's still off. What you're mad? Just tell us what
it is? What you're mad at? Is it your in
lost kids, my big boss man with your neighbors cat.
Just tell us what you mad.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
You're taking a little liberty on those runs, and you're
just trying to spice it up a little.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
Definitely been hamboning. I think he's getting bored with the
regular melody. You gotta do the you got the stink face,
Chris Brown, What you're mad?

Speaker 2 (09:58):
I'm like.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Trying to follow it around. Oh man, we do think
called what you mad at? Where you go?

Speaker 2 (10:05):
First? He already knows subtitles? Why does why?

Speaker 1 (10:09):
Why do women need subtitles every time you watch a show? Dude?

Speaker 2 (10:12):
My wife loves the subtitles on and if the subtitles
are on saying women.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Yeah, I thought it was. I didn't watch subtitles until
I got married. Me neither.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
And now if the subtitles are wrong, all I do
is read the dang titles and I ain't watching nothing.
I was like, we gotta cut them off. Last night,
Shine was.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Like, can you still hear good enough to not have subtitles? What?

Speaker 2 (10:37):
It depends? Honestly, if the kids are in bed, obviously
it makes a little more sense. But I have quote
unquote watched entire shows with my wife. But all I
do is just read the subtitles and I don't watch nothing. Yep,
that made me mad. That's not most times they get
the subtitles wrong. Sometimes they get this. They be getting
the subtitles wrong. Sure, So last night I was like, hey, bake,

(11:00):
we Killy's subtitles. She's like, you know, I need them?
And I was like, why My ears are worse than yours.
And she's like, I can't understand why they're saying. And
then I ask you and you're like, huh, because you
can't hear me. I was like, well, we're cutting him
off for a minute, and we cut him. I think
if you just cut him off and just try it,

(11:21):
you can.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
You can listen if you want to.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
Well you can't do is listen and watch some stuff
on your phone. That's where she gets in the trouble.
Oh yeah, because she likes to you know, Facebook, in
the middle of the show.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
That's when you gotta do the the old uh, the
old previous episode rundown, Like me and Jordan do I
just go through? She's like, I don't remember what happened
last episode. So I go to the last episode and
I just fast fast forward through it and then I
narrate the whole thing. I'm like, so this guy got
mad at him because he stole the thing off the truck.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
And found the body in the water. He cried about it. Yes,
something Now, So why is it when your wife will,
your significant other is done with her phone, you have
to be done with yours, and it's time to go preach,
preach you can't watching the show.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
We're not watching TV anymore.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
It's it it's light soft light cell phones off.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
Wait wait, wait wait, I wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
Yeah, and she could be on her phone for two
hours and then and then you two.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
And she puts it down. She look, oh, you do
tangent now. But that's what I'm not talking about. By
the way, I don't know if that's my only tangent.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
Oh are you mad anything?

Speaker 1 (12:31):
I'm not really mad, but I just every time I
go to the A T and T store, I know
it's never gonna work out, and I'm always I'm never like,
your phone is a piece of trash, though, dude, and
I went to get one yesterday and it's I've never
walked into an AT and T store and then the
same visit walked out with a new phone. It's always like,
oh it's out, well, yeah I got to order it,

(12:53):
or or we don't have yeah it's or it's like
you're not an authorized member of the on the phone thing,
so we have to have your wife's driver's license. I
was like, oh, well, can she send a picture? And
they're like, no, we have to have the physical license.
And I pulled I did the same thing yesterday. I
pulled in. I'll tell this. I pulled in and yeah,
she was like, we need your You're not authorized to

(13:15):
make changes to the account, so we need your Nancy's license.
I was like, can I know I need a physically address.
I was okay, and then it was like, can we
call her? And she's like, yeah, we called her. She
was like, do you see a permission? She walked through it,
she couldn't find it. And after like thirty minutes, I
was like, I'm out. I'm out. I can't. I can't
sit here any longer. But a cool thing did happen. Well.

(13:35):
I was as I was going to the AT and
T store in spring Hill. We're sitting in traffic. It's
like four o'clock and uh. And I'm sitting there and
I'm just like looking at this truck in front of me,
just kind of driving nonchalantly, not thinking about anything. And
I see this dude's back window go and it rolls
down and I'm looking at him, and about that time,
I see him raise his phone up like this in

(13:56):
the back window and it's the God's Country logo really
on the phone, and I was I was like, huh,
and he was literally listening to the podcast from yesterday
and he was giving me. I was like, damn, man,
that's kind of famous for a second spring Hill famous little.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
That's it. He ended up.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
His name is Josh McClinton. He's a he's actually a musician,
and he was listening to us shout out, thanks for
listening and thanks for recognizing me in my truck, which
is yeah, that's a little weird. Uh So, yeah, that's
I'm not really mad. You mad anything, you glad at anything.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
I wouldn't say I'm so mad at anything this morning.
I was actually even coming here looking at all the
big bucks. I'm so happy that the fall is here
and that rifles season or hunting season, dear seasons around
the course.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
I'm just like, it's the fault.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
I can't be mad at anything I feel.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
I don't know what that is when I'm just so happy.
So summer the worst, some of the heats the worst
it is. I just it's okay, you know, yeah, but
this this is just good. So I feel that.

Speaker 4 (15:09):
Man. I mean, I tryed to get mad at don't
sweat the small stuff, and I can't lie this morning.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
No, this is you're supposed to sweat.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
I get it in five minute time this morning.

Speaker 4 (15:21):
So you know, we have crazy alarms because we're on
the road all the time. And you know, this morning,
I got up earlier than I usually do, so I
step my alarm for like six you.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
Had to get ready for the podcast.

Speaker 4 (15:32):
Yeah, and along when I was six, and I was like,
I'm gonna snooze because I know I have at least
ten to fifteen minutes. But the alarm sounds on the snooze.
If you don't go in and dictate which alarm sound
is going to be on the alarm for the time,
you might get the fire truck crazy. Really, you know,
the worst sounding alarms. And I got mindset. We're like

(15:54):
easy going.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
It's like, gently wake up, go on stuff in this
thing this morning? Just now. Yeah, why does that matter?
It definitely does matter.

Speaker 4 (16:07):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
If you got that alarm, If you're waking up to
that alarm every morning, you are psychopath.

Speaker 4 (16:12):
It's bus I don't know who it was on our
tour bus the other morning it went off twice.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
It's got to start bad. I agree, agree, it's got
to piss you off immediately.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
So we used to be laggers, and it seems like,
I worked with a dad in morning farm and logging,
so we always had the six o'clock wake up, but
everything had that annoying sound. Then we got it through
the phone stuff, and then you got to change. I've
never been back to that annoying sounds ever.

Speaker 4 (16:39):
I'm not going back read uh yeah, the big red numbers.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
Yeah. Yeah, you've been out till three in the morning. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
Six.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
So you grew up and green what was your what's
your daddy do uh? Logging? Logging? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (17:02):
Three generations, So my granddad started, then my dad did it,
and then I went to community college for about a
year and then I said I'm gonna go work with
my dad and granddad and.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
Did did y'all own a meal? Did you? Did you know?
Actual loggers? We had?

Speaker 4 (17:15):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (17:16):
So you'all are out yaw skidders, log trucks the whole.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yeah, and this seems pretty dangerous, man, they do it.
We got some ground that they've been logging the last
six years and we're watching them do it.

Speaker 4 (17:29):
Cut eight hundred acres of timber off. Well, we're we're
eastern North Carolina. We're in the you know, dismal swamp,
so it's all flat land.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
Now up here where the hills.

Speaker 4 (17:41):
Are, yes, a little bit, there's a whole lot more
danger to you're dealing with cables and rudh size and
things like that.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
What was the at what age did you cut your
first tree down? How old were you? I would say,
riding uh.

Speaker 4 (17:56):
In the sheer with daddy back in the day probably
tell us what that is.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
She's a cut Before they had the cut machine, that
was one that was kind of like it's the scissors.
It actually cut the tree like a big pair of scissors,
a sheercutter. It was chainsaws first, and then they had
the sheer color. Then they had the rotating head. When
you seen the circular head.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
That grabs it, so the sheer.

Speaker 3 (18:21):
Yeah, our dad, I remember, you're right. I went to
the job, drove us around and he hit it. He
said hit this button and hit that button, and that
was pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
So it literally just scissors the tree. It was a massive.
When I say, yeah, how big could the tree? I
mean I think anything.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
Maybe twenty four would be the biggest. Probably anything after
that you cut with the soft big.

Speaker 4 (18:44):
But what happened was I think they what you'd have
to do is it would compress the butter the wood
so much that they would have to solve you always.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
Cut you a wasting you know, was compressed.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
They would push it in then they it was a
modern Then it went away like that saw head.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
It was the real deal. When the Feller Buncher came in,
that was a whole how much is one of the machines?
How much is one of the things that like because
everybody's seen the video that thing linging around order and
yeah there four three hundred range it got to be
half of me.

Speaker 5 (19:17):
I know.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
It was a big deal to my grand dad.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
He had to get you know, they made him go
to the rotator that made him basically because you couldn't
share anymore, you know, they didn't want the tree shared.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
But he had to borrow.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
I don't know how much you put down, but he
had to borrow one hundred thousand and like, you know,
early nineties, which was a lot of something some money
to get that new cutting machine.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
Wow. Yeah, and it's the one that does the thing
and cuts and then it strips it down.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
There half of me and tracks and some of them
are you know, we never had one of those.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
We just had the uh Feller Buncher on the TI.

Speaker 4 (20:00):
It's a big fat tires with the one head that
would go and you cut a tree and grab it
and pick up.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
And take the tree up. It's getting a sketchy Ever
had a sketchy situation?

Speaker 4 (20:10):
Yeah, yeah, I dropped a massive oak tree on top
of that thing. I was just learning how to use
a cut machine and we were doing and I saw
it's like this. There was one log on it, but
it had a big canopy and and I got behind
it and it made one cut.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
And you just got to know what you're doing. And
I wanted to even in the machine. Yeah, because if you.

Speaker 4 (20:28):
Don't cut it all the way through that things it's strong,
but it's only so strong.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
And yeah, it went. I cut it and I and I.

Speaker 4 (20:34):
Was tilting it so it would shoot it forward, you know,
just throwing back that way.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
And I looked at it and coming back and then.

Speaker 4 (20:42):
It smashed a cab and or you know, it could
have easily trapped me inside the machine where I couldn't
get out because of the bushes, and something could have
caught a fire. You know, that's the danger. Like that
should have would have cut a kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
Is is.

Speaker 4 (20:57):
You know one time we it's dangerous, now keep going.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
One time went I mean, one time we had a.

Speaker 4 (21:06):
Truck that was a law driver that was having some
problems with his brakes locking up on his truck, and
we had a load and we were trying to just
get him down the roads. We could park over in
this other parking lot so he could get the people
to come work on it. And uh, we kind of
got him going, and what was happening was a battery
was dying.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
The air was running out of the breaks, and it.

Speaker 4 (21:22):
Was all you know, and he's got a full load
of logs and right when he goes over the railroad.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
Truck pulling him, we had a track to pull on
him and it just does.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
Brakes locked up, I mean, and then the battery.

Speaker 4 (21:37):
Yeah, they were starting to It was just everything that
could go wrong with when we say.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
We stopped on the railroad, it couldn't have stopped any worse.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
I mean, we covered the whole railroad with an eighteen.

Speaker 4 (21:47):
We had to.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
We were freaking out.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
I was like, we don't need caicket. I was like,
the hell with the ticket car we call and everybody
have to stop the train.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
So we had trying to train.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
Police down there Luckily we didn't get a ticket, but
he we knew the guy, the police officer.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
He was like, and just move the truck.

Speaker 4 (22:11):
Yeah, And it all goes back to one of my
favorite sayings I've ever had, my dad saying, especially like
a long one.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
It just just goes throughout life. No move is better
than a bad move. It would have been better off
to let it sit there.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
Try to figure out absolutely correct, it is right, absolutely correct.
I always remember that no move is better than a
bad movie.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
Ye, to just wait before you make a move.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
You're always in the panic, you always and then we're.

Speaker 4 (22:38):
Broke, you know, and everything's about you know, if you
you got a ticket, that was that was going to
put you you know, your credit cards got verse once
you do it, afford to fix the truck was already
broke down, afford a ticket on top of the truck.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
So it was just but that goes to show you
all that could have cost way more if a train
would have hit it. Yeah, millions of dollars over over
a couple hundred five hundreds.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
So that's what you got to think about it.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
You need you need to tattoo that on the inside
of your well.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
It kind of it kind of.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
Goes into this story I'm about to tell he gets
wild if it's panicky fast time there.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
Yeah, well we do too, but we've learned through all
these situations.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
Same.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
Yeah, I love I love running a chainsaw. Love he
always no doubt. I cannot believe I ain't cut something
off seriously, Like but uh, there was one time, man,
we the church I was going to when all this
tornadoes hit more, Oklahoma and that kind of that kind
of area. It was back in like I think like

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twenty twelve, twenty thirteen, my church sent a team up there,
and uh, we went up and and we're kind of
cleaning up and doing some stuff. And and when we
got there, they were like, who knows how to run
a chainsaw? So I was the only one. I was
proud of it too, Yeah, and I was there's a
bunch of men there, but I was like I got this,
and they were like, all you're the chainsaw guy. And
so there all these mangled trees and all the property.

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So I spent I spent three or four days chainsawn
trees and like I mean like cutting, you know, cutting
the slanting them over and letting them fall in the
right spot. So they kind of just let me go.
We got to this one property and they were like,
they were like, cut the trees, and I was like
all right. So then they kind of like pointed in
this one area. So I was cutting on my cut
all the trees, and there was this huge, beautiful oak

(24:25):
tree in the front of the yard. Nothing.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
It wasn't messed up for nothing. And I was like,
you said, cut the trees, right, and he was like, yep,
cut the trees.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
And I was like, all right, it's a son. I
start going off on this thing. And I'm the guy,
the guy that's kind of like managing the whole thing.
He's he's off doing something and son, I'm sawing this.
I'm getting, you know, cutting the slants and moving around,
and about that time, it starts tilting and I'm like hey, hey, hey.
I was like, I need some help.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
So we throw a rope around it and they get
some guys start to pulling it on this side, and
I'm cutting into it, and I mean as soon as
that thing starts to tip, this guy comes around and goes,
what are you doing?

Speaker 1 (25:00):
And this thing was and hits the ground and I
was like what He was like, that's the one thing
that didn't get messed up on their whole property that
they wanted to keep was.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
The one hundred year old old dream in the front yards.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
Dude, I didn't know. I've never heard this, and I
was like, I was still like, ye, this old dream. Yeah.
He was like, this is the one drill this whole
property you're not supposed to cut. So I cut down
the one thing that didn't get hit by the tornado
on the So I should have asked, that's the dangerous word.

Speaker 3 (25:32):
Any hurricane tied up trees, that's where yeah, spring lead.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
Yeah, that's that's hard.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
I'll never forget. And this is why this goes back
to your daddy saying why you need to do it.
One time, we were building a box line down in
the in the bottom we were running out of and
I got the scar to show this.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
We took a.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
Generator and we're and a bunch of two of fours
and of skill saw. We're down there running it and
Read is insanely good at stuff, freaky auty about like bees.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
Man.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
He can't like you chilled out now or something.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
I don't care. So he got kids. Man. Man, We're
sitting there and.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
I think there was like a ladybug on the thing
he was cutting.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
Lady but it was a hornet.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
I thought you, I thought you freaked out over a
lady book first, Now as a hornet.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
So I see, I'm on the platform, he's cutting boards.
I'm telling him what like fourteen inches. He'll cut it
two by four fifteen inches and hand.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
It to me.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
And then I nailed it. We're building this thing, right,
And I look down and see a wasp or a
hornet or something on the end of the plywood that
he's cutting at. He's going to it, and I was like,
this ain't gonna be good. He gets just about to it,
it flies that he sees. He didn't see it until
it flew up, and when he did, he goes with

(26:57):
the skill saw swings it's the hornet, blows it into
a million pieces and goes down and it just catches
in his jeans like and I was like, well, we're
three miles down the middle of nowhere. I don't know
how we're gonna get He just cut his I mean
I saw blood immediate, but luckily he had those holy

(27:19):
artist jeans on, you know, and then.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
You know, you know, definitely.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
Air Apostle American caught the threads enough to slow it down.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
Lock the bloody eat his knee. I did, I have
a have about an inch and a half scar right there,
and I did.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
I went, I went wow. That's part of it was
pretty impressive because the be was like, you know, my
knee was almost like that it is. It was okay,
it's just right with it.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
Okay. Yeah. We FaceTime my brother in law who's an
okay doctor. He's not really that great, the worst doctor.
He's a great, great brother. He's the best brother in law.
Terrible doctor, terrible mom. But he said it was cool, Jason,
we love we love you, Jason. Everything's cool. We're like, well, oh,
like I broke this finger, see how it is. So
the day I did that, I got facetimed and he

(28:12):
was like, oh, yeah, it's not supposed to look like that.
I was like, you know, dude, I know it's supposed
to I'm not asking what it's supposed to look like.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
What am I supposed to do?

Speaker 4 (28:20):
Now?

Speaker 2 (28:21):
He's like, I go seeing Ortho. It'll be fine. It's
always like take a couple of advil. It's never it's
like god, hele it.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
In time anyway. Yeah, so y'all kind of been y'all
kind of been outside. Y'all were outside your whole childhood lot. Yeah, Yeah,
we worked.

Speaker 4 (28:39):
And uh well, my mom remarried when we were young,
and my stepdad's family of farmers, So when we were
cattle or crop tobacco, cotten peanuts. So when we were
you know, twelve thirteen, that was our first job working
in tobacco, uh, cucumbers or whatever. We always so we

(29:00):
had the log inside of the family and then we
had the farmer size and we grew up.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
Inside.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
Because you could you break tobacco. I don't know if
you know what that is. That's the leaves off the tobacco. Yeah,
harvesting and tobacco. Yeah, terrible job hanging it up in
the barn.

Speaker 4 (29:16):
Yeah. Breaking it was so bad because it's it's the
middle of the summer. You're out there and the bottom
legs are in the sand, and when you're breaking those
you got to put them up this conveyor and the
sand and the water bring me just the worst gum
all over you.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
You know, are you talking about tobacco? Did you ever
get like that sickness that you Oh? I did.

Speaker 4 (29:42):
I used to get tobacco poison, which is like poison ivy.
So you just be wrapped up and basically poison.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
Yeah, it sounds awful. Yeah, it was bad. It's just
like poison ivy, just like poss basically poison ivy. Is
it from the toxins in the in the tobacco. It's
like the gum.

Speaker 4 (29:58):
Okay, I guess, I mean because that stuff is real,
like gummy, I her to mess you up. Yeah, but nothing,
I'll be honest with you. There's nothing that smells better
than a fully cured tobacco barn when it's.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
This time of year.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
Yeah, oh my god, the peanuts and tobacco kind of
yet the same time.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
That's always like that's always like a start of hunting
season two.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
Like you know, those born, those born just go in
that this smelled. That's it. We just I mean you
drive by and you just see that smoke coming at
the top of them. You know, it's you know, what's
going on around there. So did y'all did y'all grow
up hunting? Did you grow up fishing? Yep? Did you? Yeah?
A lot?

Speaker 4 (30:34):
Like well, like again, my grandmother on my dad's side,
she loved to fish, so we go surf fishing with
her down at the coast, come on and then outer
bas is humble. Yeah, so we go down to the beach,
drive the old f one fifty down there and get
right on the sand and she stay out all day long?

Speaker 2 (30:52):
Is that like, did y'all were y'all south of like
Hatteras and all and all that.

Speaker 4 (30:56):
Yeah, like that in those areas down and those those
where you could actually drive on the beach, you know,
just miles and miles of ocean.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
So you just drive out on the beach and fish
off of some fish. Yeah, what would you catch?

Speaker 4 (31:08):
Uh, you know, croakers, blue fish, to catch, blue flounder,
I mean whatever was biting out there. Usually did she
like to eat it or she just like she frightens
and fish now, So she kind of got I got
the fishing boat from her. But then our stepdad his
family were hunters, so.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
Yes, I kind of got the deer hunting, and you know,
we got as much turkey hunting toil later, but deer
hunting from that side of the family. And they had
land to hunt also, you know how it is when
you with your kid you have you know, yeah, private
land to hunt.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
You don't know, how good you got to And I
didn't realize that.

Speaker 3 (31:43):
And then the same thing meeting some of our high
school buddies later that they on land their parents on
you know, on farms, and you got to hunt, and
you're like, we got it, made.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
No doubt all I say, all our fish eaters. So
I love this debate for shwater fish or saltwater fish.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
M hmm, I mean, just eat it. Just eat salt water.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
Probably because I'm team saltwater salt water.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
I mean that, don't get me wrong. I love catfish.
I'll eat brim, I'll eat you know, that's a big
plate of fring.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
Maybe I'm not maybe I'm not salt so whatever.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
You're like, oh, this is great.

Speaker 4 (32:32):
We have the river where we where we are from
the Runok River. It's one of the only spots that
the striped bass we call them rock come from the
bay and they go spawn at this particular river every year.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
So I mean that's something that's that's big white fish.

Speaker 5 (32:47):
Man.

Speaker 4 (32:47):
I like those fish that's half and half you know,
come from it's one of little brackish.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
We used to catch sauger out of the super cold water,
which is basically just like a small our wallet.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
Yea cousin of the Walleye're tough to beat.

Speaker 4 (33:03):
Man.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
We got cold water fishing.

Speaker 4 (33:05):
But I got two bags of walleye my freezer right
now that that we we charted this. We were in
Cleveland all the day off and I was like, I
want to go fishing. I wonder if I could find
somebody to take us out.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
Yeah, found really limited, and uh.

Speaker 4 (33:18):
So I've got I got about two bags of while
I worked about eight hundred dollars.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
You get this piece, you get this, you get you.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
Because it was three of us and then you know,
three guys and then.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
Dollars.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
It's better to come out with some fish because you're
still paying eight hundred dollars either way. Yeah, you can
catch them where you don't. I'm excited that we're gonna.
We're gonna.

Speaker 4 (33:58):
We've we've had it one time and then you know,
obviously when we're up in that area and in the
Great Lakes area, well, if they're in the restaurant, we'll
try it.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
Oh yeah, I'm anxious to get home and try it out. Man.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
Man, we've done some when they when they beer batter those,
that's that's that's what all Then the walle eyes the
beer batter.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
It is right. I'll call you when we cook. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
Oh I don't know how to do it.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
I know how to eat it. Yeah, please call me.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
He'll call me like, hey man, you and your brother
come twelve dollars plays a charge.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
You got to pay ten dollars to get in, then twenty.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
For the plate.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
Twelve hour plate, two hours and it's by O HP.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
Man, bring your on, hush puppies.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
Fish tell us, uh, tell us about your Alaskan experience,
catches Salmon. Oh yeah, have we been twice? Yeah, yeah,
we went. I want to go so much. Only place
man at this time of year.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
Uh just charter boat again, just a small boat and
you're just it's a little nothing to it.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
Yeah, it's awesome. I mean.

Speaker 4 (35:15):
And we went because we were doing the show out there. Hell,
they were having concerts during COVID, so we were like.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
Yeah, let's coat Alaskan for surely we did. And we
went out and one.

Speaker 4 (35:23):
Of the guys that was had us out there promoters,
he was like, you know, you guys should take this
charter out the King Salmon's in and Silvertown. We're like okay,
and you get like three apiece and it was just awesome.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
I mean, you know, pretty nice size ones. What tackle,
what do you throw? Like just like a rooster, big
rooster tail.

Speaker 4 (35:46):
Yeah, just you know, just cast it out and he
puts you kind of put you on them, and it's
pretty pretty basic.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
You know, you're gonna get your limit. But but the
cool thing was just how beautiful it is out there.
Start off with you know, you're.

Speaker 4 (35:58):
Flying the anchorage and you take it to a three
hour drive.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
That's what we recommend wheel drive to. Three hours.

Speaker 4 (36:06):
Yeah, ahead for sure, but but the Keen Eye Peninsula,
Kenye rivers where it's at.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
And uh, I recommend anybody to do it. And we
went back, actually went back the next.

Speaker 4 (36:14):
Year on our own and took my brother, my little
brother and my uncle and we all went and it
was amazing. And see the same time, I always was
under the assumption that you were eating those pink salmon,
you know, but they're the ones that got the humps
in their backs that they're stressed out. We call that
party fish. And that's why you said we're gonna party.
Once you get your limit, we'll go party fish. Things

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to come up in thousands, and you just cast the
line out and you catch them. You can see them. Man,
it's crazy.

Speaker 3 (36:42):
It's yeah, it's unreal. We got to do that. And
then we charted another boat. Oh yeah, we went out.
We were in lastchool. We went out on the bay
to go king salmon fishing. But then you know, obviously
don't want to put you on.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
So we went and caught uh like they got rock
bass or like the black.

Speaker 4 (36:57):
Bass, which are prot some of the best fish I've
ever eaten. We came back with a bag of those
and got them fil A's and shipped back home. I
mean they are not even the boat cap And I said,
what's your favorite? He's like these black bass, he's rock bass.

Speaker 3 (37:13):
And what you see is like, yeah, what you're thinking,
you're going to say it is that was a that
was a big boat. And we went out, you know,
not a deep sea, but pretty far out. I'm out
on deep set.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
You have mountains around you, just far enough. Yeah, you
just see you on.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
Both sides of the cliffs, just like this is.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
Those rides worth. You know, everybody's been to Alaska. They're like,
if you love Montana, if Montana and which is Montana
is my favorite place I've been? You know, in the
contigual United States whatever. But like they're like, if you
love Alaska, I mean Montana, Alaska is the big brother
to Montana.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
It's just it's it's that except wilder yea, and I
want yeah, man, it's it's a bucket list. It's bucket list.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
That's the way to do it.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
To get hit anchor rent your car, and then you
go wherever you want to go, you know, keep dying
or whereever you're little.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
We did a we went to like three different little
towns night.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
We played oh yeah, when.

Speaker 4 (38:11):
We went out there at that at that time, I
can't as hard to remember now. I just remember we
were on this We were staying in this little like
tiny houses on this guy's property. Had us a nice
property at a helicopter pad. We had these docks, these
docks out by.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
The river on the river, you know.

Speaker 4 (38:25):
And and so my brother and I were walking out
there and you could just see the fish coming just
coming coming up, you know, every once and while you
see a school of them, and and and the ones
the keepers, you know, the silver salmon, and and and.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
We have these fly rods over there, and I've got all.

Speaker 4 (38:41):
These baits that I got and I'm like, oh man,
I'm casting, couldn't catch anything. And these women come and
they're like, you know, probably fifty feet over another dock
and they're out there, you know, just giggling casting, they
saying they're hooking, and me and my brother just like
what's going on, Like we can't look at frustrated, like

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he can't catch anything.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
They're they're loading up, you know.

Speaker 4 (39:05):
And finally the dude that owns the place, he came back.
He's like, it's like they're not gonna they don't bite that.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
They're not hungry, they're not coming back to feed. Yeah,
he said, they don't bite that. He said.

Speaker 4 (39:15):
What they're doing is they're like they're like sewing the
hook through their lip when they come flowing through.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
So so many of them, you're just literally just to
fly them.

Speaker 4 (39:23):
Well, you run the fly out and then when they
come through you you pull it and it just and
it gets them and it's legal, and wow, you know,
we're cooking salmon right on the doc fresh out of
the keen eye.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
Man, amazing.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
If somebody came in right now said hey we can
go do that right now, I'll be gone.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
Yeah, wife, kid, I'm going out. Yeah, I figured it out. Yeah,
for sure, you gotta do it as well. Yeah, that's
all that we need to go back. It's been a
couple of years, it's been a few.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
I'd love to take my dad to do that.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
Man. I don't know if we get him on the plane.
I find out from his wife actually hooked it up.
So I figured out all the information and and all
the yeah, you know, you know, because it's like a
one two three things, stay here, stay here, little book
we made so this bo right here. Yeah like that.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
Yeah, we got all our all our stuff in there.
I'm going to open a random page is probably gonna
be me with something that's a big yeah, big old cat.

Speaker 4 (40:21):
That was.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
That was some jugging down there. But those pictures are
cool of my my dad.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
Nice thanks man.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
That's Tennessee dere But like that my dad back in
the day, Sparkle.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
Jackson looking at the renegame. Look at JEP.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
He's a JEP.

Speaker 4 (40:38):
Guys, that's a nineteen o eight or seven really seventy
seven or seventy eight?

Speaker 1 (40:43):
Yeah, was that c J.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
Seven seven or five seven longer? Yeah, it's got the
U shaped dwarf.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
Yeah, that's my thing, man, what's the one? What's the
one jeep? If you could buy any jeep in the world,
what would it be, I could buy any jeep in
the world. Yeah, I got four of them, so I got.

Speaker 4 (41:07):
You know, I mean, I don't know, man, jeep open
the door, got a bunch of.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
I'm not a duck.

Speaker 4 (41:17):
Well, I think it started out as like a benefit
to raise for a kid that had cancer.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
Just what it started, Okay, I'm for and then sorry.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
I didn't understand it.

Speaker 4 (41:28):
And now it's like, I think it's just a little obnoxious. Man,
come on, like, yeah, just not wonder guys. The jeep wave, Yeah,
you know, what's the jew jeep? Well, supposed to be
the victory because back in the World War Two when
they won, all the soldiers will come home and really
they had the old school you know, Whillies and the victory.

(41:50):
And now the thing is, you know, the older jeep
waves last. So you know, I've got.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
You passed.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
It's kind of like, so you opened it.

Speaker 4 (42:02):
It's rare that I waved anybody, because my jeeps are
always old, you know like that. But but yeah, so
if it's old, you know, forties, fifties, wheelies, you gotta
wait to them first, or yeah, the oldest seat waves last.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
That's cool.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
Respect Yeah, it's immediately cooler in my head.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
Yeah, that's cool.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
It's immediately. I mean, I've always had a dream of
rolling around on my farm with the c.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
J five just top off, not he can find you
whatever you want. Pretty it's probably pretty fun.

Speaker 4 (42:30):
It's the most amazing thing when you pull that top off,
especially during the springtime when it comes off and you
get the cruise and it's just it's like riding a motorcycle,
and it's a kind of cultural thing.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
It's nothing like it, man, talking about like free in
your mind.

Speaker 4 (42:42):
If you could just take a ride out to the
country and then just find you places.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
There's new traffic and you just cruise. Man, it's not
just trace or something. Yes, that's gonna say right next
to it.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
And I had a motorcycle, but my wife is like,
kids got to go the way to.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
Roll because you're just cruising.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
You're not money fast. We did it during the pandemic
and it was like a life saver. It's like we'd say,
what do we call it.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
We're gonna ride around a circle? I don't know.

Speaker 3 (43:07):
We just do it like once a day just to
get out. Yeah, drive around the Nacha's come around. It's
just come back like, oh this is great.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
Yeah, it's weird.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
There's some therapeutic stuff going on there.

Speaker 4 (43:17):
Man.

Speaker 1 (43:18):
When when I met when I met Jordan, she was
she was She had a two door Wrangler and we
do the same thing. I had a little, you know,
little parking shed that I parked my stuff under and
we installed a winch up there, so she drive on her.
We hook the top up and hold it up. We
pulled the doors off and go ride on Sundays and man,
just turn some music up and some Ali Jackson and roll,

(43:40):
you know.

Speaker 4 (43:40):
And that was my first car, was eighty six C
J Loreto. I've had I've had them pretty much ever since.
So even when I was a kid, you know, like
that experience is taking the top off for the summer,
and that was just a thing and it's always been
a thing every year.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
Interesting that makes me want to buy one real bad.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
One. What's the I mean? I mean, obviously the I
want something I can work on though the new stuff.

Speaker 4 (44:05):
If you can work on it, then you're ahead of
the game if you can do it, because finding somebody
to work on something old is damn near impossible, and
nobody wants to do it. And if you find you
might find an old head that that all they want
to do is work on old stuff. They don't want
to do something with computers. Yeah, and you know around
here it's hard. I ain't gonna lie. I got someboddies

(44:26):
that work on stuff, but they're they're on big shops
and it's hard for them to focus on, you know,
specifically the old stuff because it does take time and
it's a little different.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
Didn't your dad have one Jordan, that blue one or something?

Speaker 2 (44:38):
Yeah, he has the orange one in the black beautiful
and I mean, like what part of towns? Then? I
he's in Kentucky really, but he's like this c J seven,
this orange one man speaking span.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
He's put a bunch of time into It's beautiful on
the inside, everything's refurbished and all that. But he's out
there bailling hay with it. He's he's like rolling the
little thing that the haybells and yeah he uh oh yeah.
If you ever, if you want to get one, hit
me up. I can. I can help you guide you
along the right path.

Speaker 4 (45:10):
I mean not to say that I haven't spent too
much money on the past too.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
I've got, yeah, I've got you know, I knew quite
a bit about him. The trouble it was a good
buy or not.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
The trouble is, I got like fifty kids, and I
don't know how you pack them in, and to be.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
Honest with you throw them in the back seat.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
I guess that's probably what y'all did when y'all were riding. Now, yeah, man,
one those sea belts. Man.

Speaker 4 (45:31):
We actually one jeep that I have when we first
started this band. It was right when we started the band, which.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
We should probably talk about the band.

Speaker 4 (45:44):
It was funny because I just got this jeep and
I was excited and we didn't have We had used berries,
like exper what was it explored at the old school
Ford Explorer old O one and he was getting something
fixed and I was like, I just got my jeep.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
I'll drive to the gig.

Speaker 4 (45:58):
I pulled a U how so it was that's four
and in the U haul and that was pretty tough.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
That was a bad ride.

Speaker 4 (46:07):
Man.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
Where'd you'll go to?

Speaker 4 (46:09):
Do?

Speaker 2 (46:09):
You may to Raleigh?

Speaker 4 (46:10):
Play some fraternity in Raleigh for Green which the hour
and a half away, you know, and I'll.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
Never get pulling up.

Speaker 4 (46:14):
I have a jeep just us four pulling you haul
and was sitting back.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
I'm just wanting to prove that I could do it.

Speaker 4 (46:21):
You know, I just loved it so much. I just
wanted to drive it to the gig and uh, never
did that again. But I still have that jeep, still
had I have it. Yeah, it's really cool. That's awesome.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
Yeah, so who, uh, who give us give us a
little rundown, a little you know, a little rundown of
of the journey to Nashville.

Speaker 4 (46:43):
That's a long rundown. You know, we didn't we didn't
do the Nashville thing. We didn't do the Broadway thing.
We were we didn't know. Yeah, we didn't know anything.
We didn't know told us that you could come to
Nashville to go to Belmont. Nobody told us you could
write songs for a living, or there was people that
can help you or teach you do anything.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
We were just didn't know what a publishing deal was.
We didn't know there was actual song right. We thought
that you just got in the barn and parmally and
stuff would just come to you. Yeah, which was because
you didn't have any structure other than you know, playing
a cover song for sure.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
Anyway.

Speaker 4 (47:19):
Yeah, so we you know, we started playing with my
dad when we were you know, young teenagers. He taught
us and then we started playing in his band with him,
and and so he was banning it. He wasn't just
a hobby he was with they playing pay gigs. He
just playing covered stuffs on the weekend, but he was
logging during the week and then he had the band.
And he had always been the kind of the guy

(47:39):
in the they in the in the area there and
always had a band and he was good. He was like, uh,
Greg Almond meets Bob Seeger and meets Dope.

Speaker 1 (47:49):
So that was the three that was our three stables.

Speaker 4 (47:51):
It was for us, it was Almen Brothers, Devil McClinton,
uh Skinner, and then a lot of like R and
B and soul Johnny Taylor, uh, you know, Marvin Gaye.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
That kind of stuff was it's, you know, Southern soul music.

Speaker 4 (48:04):
So we grew up in that we're playing in his
band with him, kind of took that into.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
We just were like kind of get a little bit older,
a little bit older years.

Speaker 3 (48:14):
Yeah, we were like, we need to play something those
are strong roots.

Speaker 1 (48:17):
Thought is untouchable. He is up there.

Speaker 4 (48:25):
We used to play probably ten of his songs when
we played with my dad.

Speaker 3 (48:28):
And our friends thought that was my dad's music really
because we played so much devilm Clinton.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
His originals. But it wasn't.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
I did want of your wedding.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
I did uh pick it up, dude, every time I
rolled down.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
We did that at jam Jam and that guy jams.

Speaker 4 (48:51):
So we learned melody's and stuff from those guys, and
harmony and you know, how to play a lot of
guitar and stuff.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
But but we were we decided we're.

Speaker 4 (49:00):
Like, man, we gotta we got to do our own thing, and.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
So we started, uh we Barry is our cousin. He was.
He was a drummer.

Speaker 3 (49:09):
We needed a bass player short and short. He was
a drummer, so that now we do. We auditioned one
bass player in the town of Greenville something bass players
and then we were like, Barry, you need to play bass.
He was like all right, and really and then we
want and then we had to go find uh we

(49:30):
wanted to We wanted a keyboard and guitar player if
anybody could do both, sure, and we found Josh uh.
He played at the same bar that we did. Yeah,
so local boar, you know, the hometown, the college bar.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
So if we can get this guy and he can
sing and he can play guitar, threat, Yeah we got
it all.

Speaker 4 (49:50):
And uh so we started and we went out to
Parma Lee and we had this barn about half the
size of this room that we rented for fifty bucks
a month and we rehearsed out there as much as possible,
fifty bucks a month, two.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
Times a week.

Speaker 3 (50:01):
I get off work at six o'clock. We'd meet there
around seven and go from seven to eleven. That was
late enough because we were making so much noise. I'm
talking about full stacks, double stack amps.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
Being here. What was running was a Marshall store.

Speaker 4 (50:24):
Yeah, J had j CM actually had a j C
nine hundred through four to twelve, and then I went
on and ended up having.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
A sal Donald hot rod. It was acoustic cabinet. Yeah.
It was awesome.

Speaker 4 (50:35):
Man.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
It was loud and my ears ring this day.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
At the time though, you think that's what you need.
And then you get into the gig and you see
these guys playing little brown outs five five what brown
outs running to a mic and then they've got the
stacks up there for show.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
It's the craziest thing.

Speaker 3 (50:52):
We did what we called the Menu venues and you know,
the wild Wings and what would be the ten roofs
you know, oh yeah, and.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
We brought everything, you.

Speaker 4 (51:01):
Know.

Speaker 1 (51:01):
That was our whole Oh yeah, yeah, we.

Speaker 4 (51:05):
Did all that and then you know, played around and
I just got tired of drunk people asking me to
play Brown Eye Girl.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (51:14):
I was like, that ain't the band we are. And
I was like, I told you guys, like.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
What are we doing?

Speaker 4 (51:18):
Are we gonna we're gonna keep playing everybody else's music?
Are We're going to start doing our own thing and
focusing on our own thing that is?

Speaker 1 (51:26):
And so we do, and we made.

Speaker 4 (51:28):
A pact over this fire barrel out in front of
the barn, and Parma League were like, all right.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
That was I think. We started writing.

Speaker 4 (51:35):
We had we had a couple of songs that we
that we had written that that kind of got us,
you know, got us a little tension that people can
tell like that. And then we found this manager out
in Raleigh. He kind of like he said, you guys
need to be writing like this, doing this anyway, It
was the whole.

Speaker 3 (51:49):
Point of the kind of said you should go here
to write, you should write in Nashville, and we're like, really,
they're like, you should go here write with other people.
And we were like, oh, okay, that's the thing.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
Really didn't know.

Speaker 4 (52:01):
We were just in a This was like two thousand
and one, two thousand and two, and we said, all right,
we're gonna call the band Parma Lee, and we're gonna
we're gonna do our own thing and go from making
six hundred dollars a gig when you bring your pa
and you play for three or four.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
Hours and they go to making one hundred or zero whatever.

Speaker 4 (52:16):
You didn't and got credit cards lined up, went to
work and just worked all week and working in logging woods.
Barry was doing furniture repo with his dad's business. Josh
was doing the constructions, and I was still logging. We
were logging, you know, and it was like, uh so
we were just trying to get a record deal, and

(52:37):
you know, things would happen, and we got this attention
of this one producer and we went to New York
and he was excited and and we did an album
up there.

Speaker 3 (52:46):
And we paid for the album, so we didn't have record.
You know, we didn't have anybody. We cars buddy, my
buddy Barro borrowed some money from my buddy and stuff
like that, so that was great.

Speaker 1 (52:57):
We did all our albums that way.

Speaker 4 (52:59):
Yeah, we had one three oh yeah to help us out,
and you know, it was but it was it was
always looking for trying to figure out how to make
that next move and.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
That my step. It's hard when you don't know what
that step is. You know, you're just playing music, you're
writing music. And then even the switch from like you're
not a cover band anymore is a tough switch. That's
the biggest in a local mar market for sure, because
they know you kill Space Cowboy. You know, they're like,

(53:29):
what is this stuff we've never heard of? Give us
Space Cowboy and you're like, well.

Speaker 1 (53:34):
We're trying to make the switch. You have to do
half and half. That's what we started doing this we did.

Speaker 4 (53:39):
You know, we get a little ep out and then
we start opening up for the national bands that would
come through, so you wouldn't have to do a ninety
minute sit.

Speaker 1 (53:46):
You did a you know, thirty minute set whatever. But
it also kind of like not knowing the next step
and not knowing what to do and having somebody sitting
there holding your hand telling you what to do also
leads to some uniqueness in what you do too, right,
And yeah, I'd say that what is it? Just not
knowing helped because I'm sitting here now.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
We wouldn't let somebody do what we did. I'm like, oh, no,
that's not how you do it.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
Sure we did, Yeah, yeah, I got you. You're gonna
get right in here and write some songs of these.

Speaker 3 (54:15):
But you're right that not knowing was the crazy part
or the magical thing.

Speaker 1 (54:22):
We really didn't know. I just did it.

Speaker 4 (54:24):
If somebody had a suggestion, we would follow that. Like
if somebody thought somebody said, you guys should work with
this producer, we would figure out how to go work
with them, whether it's put it on credit cards, and ultimately,
if that didn't lead to something down the road, it
kind of did lead to every little thing we did.
By following that positivity, not the negativity. We would just

(54:45):
take criticism constructively and listen to a couple of people
and they were supply and it was baby steps. But
the thing was we showed up and we kept working
just folded.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
We were just we would just.

Speaker 4 (54:58):
Keep trying and then you two steps forward and then this.
It was just like this, this, this and this. But
eventually I tell the story every night at the show.
But like we were doing this was like two thousand
and six, we've been you know, so we've been five
years like really doing the Parmerly thing. We had this
album out and kind of guys telling us we need
to be in this rock direction, this active rock direction,

(55:22):
and nobody would silence because it wasn't We couldn't fit
that bill. We couldn't do what those bands were doing
in the early two thousands. We just had our own thing.
We were still searching and we had all kinds of
songs before that, just random just trying to find it,
you know. Yeah, But we played the showcase or the
show in Charlotte and this A and R guy from
Atlantic by name Kim Stevens was coming to the show.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
We heard and that was it.

Speaker 4 (55:47):
We were like, record god, that was the biggest deal
on earth. Because like I always said, if we ever
heard that and in turns that worked that Sony's cousin
was gonna come through the show, we'd flown them out
on credit.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
Yeah music, Well, I know my cousin is.

Speaker 4 (56:08):
Cousin like any That's how far out we were far
out of reached with everything.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
But anyway, he came to the show.

Speaker 4 (56:16):
We had him at you know, dinner before the show,
talked to him and you know, did everything we could,
had girls around play, you know, did a great job
with our best songs, and I, you know it, went
up to him at the end of the night and
I know, you know, we weren't going to sign us.

Speaker 1 (56:31):
That was kind of like I figured that out. Time
to show started and we didn't have the songs either.
We did, we didn't, And I went up to him.

Speaker 4 (56:40):
I said, hey, Kim, if you sign us tomorrow, what's
the first thing you'd have is to He said, that's easy.
I'd have you guys go down Atlanta to work with
this guy named Rick Rick Byatto and I said, cool man,
thank you for coming, appreciate you being here. And never
saw him again. I've talked to him about he passed
this year. It was the soul but uh, you better
believe I was looking at Rick the next day.

Speaker 1 (57:01):
I don't know who he was. We got in touch
with him.

Speaker 3 (57:03):
So Barry the Bass with Barry based cousin and bass
players just call said, we're going to Atlanta. We're gonna
just meet this guy. And see that's what we did.
We're gonna rent a car and we're gonna go. We're
gonna go meet this guy and record two or three songs.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
Again, how are we gonna pay for it? I don't know.

Speaker 3 (57:21):
We'll figure it out. And we don't even know what
demos costs. We don't know anything. We just know we're going.

Speaker 4 (57:25):
So he so call him up and we had we
had like four songs we wanted to record one t
we hadn't finished. And we took him in the studio
play what we had. We didn't know anything about Rick.
This was two thousand and six or whatever. Yeah, and
and and so he's like, cool, come on back eleven
grand will come record, cut all these songs.

Speaker 1 (57:44):
And we'll finish this next one the studio. So we did.

Speaker 4 (57:47):
We went back, cut it, cut them, finished that one song.
You wrote him a check that we had barred from
a buddy of IRUs that was kind of on, you know,
working with us, kind of you know it won't happen,
but this was like the last straw.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
And it would have been for you know, the deal.
And so we wrote him a check for eleven grand.
You got home, man.

Speaker 4 (58:08):
We're excited about About three days later, get a call
from Rick.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
He's like, yeah, give me eleven thousand dollars that check back.

Speaker 4 (58:25):
Here's the thing. One of those songs was Carolina. We
wrote Carolina with him and finished it in that studio.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
It is Carolina. So I knew like we had something.

Speaker 4 (58:34):
Song was That was the first time I'd ever heard
that sound that we have been looking for for you know,
five six years prime. We had the song, we had
the sound, we had what we had us.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
Yeah, so you have to come up with that eleven grand. Yeah,
and guess where I got it from?

Speaker 1 (58:50):
Logging? No, my mama really she she loan was eleven
thousand dollars second more against her house second morning, whatever
the line of credit. The second morning, she said, I'll
get it out.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
I believe that.

Speaker 1 (59:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
Yeah, well she.

Speaker 4 (59:10):
Never but she never heard the songs before that. She
never asked to hear. She just didn't have to believed. Yeah. Yeah,
And I was like, and I tell the story every
time now. So, so mama got a new car, she
got a house paid off, she's retired now.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
She didn't hesitate. That's all she owned. Her whole life
is that little house and she she.

Speaker 3 (59:32):
And and for all the songwriters or you know, you
got old songs and new songs, you always want what's new.
That was in two thousand and seven. Carolina didn't come
out till twenty twelve, and it went number one in
twenty thirteen.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
So that song was that old.

Speaker 2 (59:50):
That song was on.

Speaker 4 (59:51):
US twenty fourteen is when it. It went number one
in December twenty thirteen. So honestly, you wrote it in
two thousand and seven, seven years oh, after.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
Grinding and then you know, before he got shot.

Speaker 3 (01:00:10):
You know, so we were here doing the Carolina thing
and yeah, and then I got hurt.

Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
So it's like the end of the world. Yeah, it's
all over now. But we had those songs.

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
I'm telling me, I said all the time. But it's
like once it's a few good old boys have an idea,
regardless of how long it takes. And it gets that
I did, gets to the point to where you're putting
socks and shoes on your own feet. Oh yeah, you
can't tell that somebody.

Speaker 4 (01:00:38):
And it's probably shot us in the ass a few times,
yeah for sure. And you know that just comes with
age and being here and like understanding like okay, yeah,
want nobody gonna tell us nothing, especially after going through
all that and.

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
Finally that song going number one? What happened?

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
What happened that night? The song goes number one? What
do y'all do?

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:01:02):
Man?

Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
That this was coming up the Christmas? So you're talking
about the best Christmas ever? Yeah, I mean like it
was that time year.

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
So it was charting and you know around it's a
two neat.

Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
Two week number one during the break a break and
we're on now like here's our shot.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
We're getting. Everybody's getting President.

Speaker 4 (01:01:32):
Years of two years about we would like shuffle gifts around.
We know our uncle was gonna give us a hundie,
so we would like we would we would div that
out and get grandmama. President twenty would give credit card
like for years it was. It was it was like
a you know, bad just just a raffle on you
to take Robin, Peter to pay Paul.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
Get over here, and you pass it around.

Speaker 4 (01:01:55):
So we're so thankful, man, I can't explain how how
much you know?

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
And and and then they just kept coming.

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
They keep coming, they're still coming.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
They still haven't had how long I'll been at this.

Speaker 4 (01:02:08):
I mean that was since we got signed in twenty
eleven in Nashville, when I started a band in two
thousand and one, so we were ten years before we
got Oh my gosh, was there ever like a like
a like a pack between you two.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
It's like, hey man, we're in this together. Whatever whatever
comes is gonna come, but we're gonna do it. We're
gonna face the giants to get.

Speaker 3 (01:02:25):
When he said, back when we were in parmally around it,
we had a want a fire pit was actual fire.

Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
We got one of deer camp Man. They do the
same things. That's homeless stuff, right.

Speaker 3 (01:02:37):
A couple of incidents and life friends pass away and
just things happened that we when we made that pack,
we're like, we're gonna we're gonna play music for a living. Yeah,
but it didn't matter, you know. It was just a
big try to play it for a living. That was
what the goal was.

Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
What was still goal is making music for living. So
that was the pack that probably it's it's also a
feeling too like and we kind of feel this way
like I don't and I've told Dan this, I don't
think there ain't nothing that we can't do together, you
know what I'm saying, Like I got supreme confidence in
him to go do his thing by himself and the

(01:03:14):
same for me. But like when when when we get together,
I just I just feel like we we I mean
we we've been a team our whole life, bro, And
there ain't there ain't a problem that can't be solved.
They're in a situation we can't get get out of.
There ain't there ain't nothing you can throw at us
that we can't get through. And that's just the power
of brotherhood, that the blood.

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
You know what I'm saying. It's pretty sick doing with
your brother too, Like just just seeing each other catch
those dreams man, that y'all dreamed up. I mean for us,
it was like on the front porch of our deer
camp one day, we were like, maybe we should do this,
you know, and now we're supporting our families with it.
And that's that's crazy, man, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
Do it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
Like you said, you've been together and we've been through
everything together. So it wasn't like he was going this
way and I was going. It was always that where
we're headed.

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
Yeah, and the other guys too, Josh and Barry. Absolutely.

Speaker 4 (01:04:06):
How great is that I started it the same. I
feel like we all had the same playing level. Nobody
had money, nobody had back up playing, nobody had an
uncle that knew anything more than the other ones.

Speaker 1 (01:04:15):
Did you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (01:04:16):
It was like we all worked the same job from
the same financial background. You know, you didn't have somebody
that could just say, well, I'm I'm gonna do something.
Parents have money, I'm just gonna do something different. We
were all easily gonna do this together. And you know,
we all trusted each other to do their parts in
the band to kind of you know, do that. You
show up here and you do this. You put these

(01:04:36):
flowers out, I'll make them. I'll be booked the shows,
I'll deal.

Speaker 1 (01:04:39):
With the you know, making radio. And everybody has that
little part.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
Yeah, yeah, you'll get tired of each other now that
you've been against.

Speaker 3 (01:04:46):
The tail on the road. But everybody spreads out when
we get home. It's gotten a lot of other guys
in North Carolina now, so they really they really spread
taking yeah and the kid and you know what I mean, Yeah, yeah,
everybody's got their own a little thing that they get away.

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
But when we get back together.

Speaker 3 (01:05:02):
We're still the same kids on the bus, just like
if y'all got up there with it is.

Speaker 4 (01:05:06):
And we hang out too, Like I mean, when when
those guys come town, they still at my house being
the pool, drinking.

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
Beer, hanging out talking trash. Yeah, it's fun. Me and
me and Josh in the pool last time.

Speaker 4 (01:05:18):
And I just got working out in the yard doing building, building,
still working, and you know, I'm being me and Josh.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
We work construction jobs together.

Speaker 4 (01:05:28):
We were, you know, the worst of the worst jobs
you ever want to do for ten dollars an hour.
And I still felt a little guilty sitting in the
pool drinking the beer. And I was like, yeah, let
him do it. We put I've done that enough enough.
I shouldn't feel bad about us enjoying my beer.

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
It's in my mind to helping people.

Speaker 3 (01:05:52):
Yeah at whatever that is. Yeah, a little guilty about
for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
What's next for y'all? Man, what's y'all? What's what's the
rest of twenty five look like? What's twenty twenty six
look like? What y'all shows? Music?

Speaker 4 (01:06:03):
Yeah, we're starting this uh we're doing the uh uh
feels like Home tour for the last leg of this year,
which is just more dates, headline of shows and in
the studio right now working on new stuff. Got a
bunch of new songs. We're working on it where you know,
you know that goes here, it's always go on, but
you're always trying to find that song that hits that

(01:06:25):
right nerve at the right time. Sure that always that
ball always moves to you know. But but it's been great.
We've been on tour hard this year. We've been doing
like four.

Speaker 1 (01:06:34):
Shows a week for the past couple of months.

Speaker 4 (01:06:36):
Yeah, I don't want to show it is and and
you know, you were talking about what you're mad at,
what you're glad at.

Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
I was telling him earlier.

Speaker 4 (01:06:42):
I was like, Man, I'm glad that these people are
coming out to see us because expensive now and there's
so much going on. There's so many things people can do.
And when they come, they come see you at a show,
it's it's amazing to think they took their time, go
take find a babysitter, Ordy brought the kids on whatever
park and you know, hotels driving. I'm telling you, man,

(01:07:04):
it's it's amazing that everybody comes out and but.

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
You're work like like that experience for them is worth
it for like that that's their therapy, you know, that's
that's their release. I know you're on stage working, but
but they're in the crowd drinking beer and having a
good time and forgetting life everything else man, and so
it's that is special.

Speaker 1 (01:07:23):
We always talk about.

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
Uh it seems like fans think people think that you
can't see them from the stage, when in reality you can.
When I can see everything, you know, what's the Like,
the craziest thing I ever saw was I saw a
guy with this girl. He left to go to the
bathroom and we did. Another dude came over from the bar.

(01:07:46):
They made out, He went back, and then that guy
came back from the bathroom and Jackson to the sneak.

Speaker 1 (01:07:52):
I saw that. Wow, you paying attention.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
I mean, you don't ask her on the straight. You
see this. We watched the whole thing go down. It's beautiful.
Have you ever been on stage and seeing anything crazy
happening out in the in the CD?

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
That was just the other day.

Speaker 4 (01:08:14):
I don't know what was going on. He has a
final Yeah, I mean we were in Canada. Dude had
a walker.

Speaker 3 (01:08:21):
No way, No, I don't think it was a happened man,
these guys were front row and they've been there all
day so this and it was the older guys too.
They told me the guy was smoking it. This is
in Canada smoking a joint and he just blew it
right into the police in the police you know, it's

(01:08:41):
it's it's legal there, so probably not the out in
front of something happened.

Speaker 1 (01:08:48):
We just see crack.

Speaker 3 (01:08:53):
And then had then I had to wheel him out,
I think.

Speaker 1 (01:08:57):
And just like that the couple that was behind him
chair lost my game. It went quick, just like that.

Speaker 3 (01:09:06):
It just seems like somebody that was sitting in the
front road and wait all day wouldn't really cause trouble,
you know, because he's been there all.

Speaker 1 (01:09:15):
Had a ponytail, you know, white gray ponytail. Is the
is the magic still there for you?

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
On stage?

Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
Like is the is the is the shine still on it?

Speaker 4 (01:09:29):
It's been more fun over the past couple of years,
and it has been in a long long time, I
really say that, and I will a lot of has
do having more hits and yeah, you know, tru fans
like just wouldn't.

Speaker 3 (01:09:44):
Connection whatever it is. And that's just realizing, you know,
enjoy what's happening and you know you're always worried about
what's the next, what's next? You gotta stop enjoy, enjoy
one show at a time.

Speaker 4 (01:09:57):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:09:58):
Good for you man, Even y'all coming here, I'm like,
oh and what am I going to getting into? Great?

Speaker 3 (01:10:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
I was happy to come up here.

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
About you know what I mean, Take just a few
minutes before we get out, Take just a few minutes.
If there's somebody right now listening to this and they've
got a little baby band man, and they're trying to
make moves and they're just getting their teeth kicked in
like we all did for years and years and years,
what's the advice you would give them besides keep doing
what you're doing, because they know that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
Anybody said that was the biggest thing we heard.

Speaker 4 (01:10:31):
I mean, make sure you got the people around you
that are as excited as you are, and that's going
to work as hard as you are, whether that's your
bandmates or your your buddy who's helping manage or whoever.

Speaker 3 (01:10:43):
I mean, they're surrounding yourself around the positive people that
want to help you move forward, you know, and you know,
you know what I mean. What y'all did get away
from the negative stuff and somebody, what are you doing?
You just around yourself, around us like minded people.

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
Is that what it is?

Speaker 4 (01:11:01):
Get rid of the negative people that always got something
negative to say or complaining about stuff all the time.
But it's hard enough. Yeah, Like I said before, our
thing was we always found one ray of positivity. Even
in the worst of the worst scenario, if there was
one thing positive to come out of it, we would
try to chase that instead of focusing on the on.

Speaker 1 (01:11:23):
The yeah and work.

Speaker 3 (01:11:26):
And we took criticism which it hurts your feelings or
you don't like, and we would change it or work
around it or try to do better, apply it, construct.

Speaker 4 (01:11:37):
The criticism, and show up. I mean, you know the
whole show up. Man, got to show up that. I
think that's even when you're.

Speaker 1 (01:11:45):
Tired, even when you don't and you don't want to
do it, man, some of the some of the best
stuff gets created on those days. And then it's the
same as.

Speaker 4 (01:11:51):
Song right now, say right how many times I'm like man,
and then you go and you're like I needed to go.

Speaker 1 (01:11:56):
You got to try to work it out and you
got to get through it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:59):
That's tell myself and that in the gym parking lot.
Every day, I'll be sitting there just.

Speaker 1 (01:12:03):
Like, don't you feel better when you get out there?

Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
I do now, I can honestly say that, but I'll
cut my truck off sometimes it's it's like, what makes
me get out and go to the gym when it's hot,
is I cut immediate When I pull in, I cut
the truck off, and I'm like to sit in there
and are going to get get to work. And there
are times I'm in there and that's beating and I'm like,
all right, that's.

Speaker 6 (01:12:24):
You can just turn the truck back and drive off.
I sitting there and that's my office for like thirty
minutes conditioning. Oh yeah, let me get my stuff right now, man.

Speaker 4 (01:12:37):
Text And the remedy to that is find you somewhere
close that you can go, whether it's a trail or anything.
And don't even skip that whole thing about driving to
somewhere and sitting in there and thinking.

Speaker 1 (01:12:50):
About my thing.

Speaker 4 (01:12:52):
Even if I'm on the bus, I'm like, give me
off this bus. I'm gonna go right now, because if
I don't go, I'm in and I got a part
like five minutes from my house.

Speaker 1 (01:13:00):
I'm gonna use to cut off the truck work.

Speaker 3 (01:13:02):
You're either gonna get cold or you're gonna get hot.

Speaker 2 (01:13:06):
One way or another.

Speaker 1 (01:13:07):
You get out of the truck.

Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
Yeah, cut it as soon as I pull up on
much because if I don't, I'll sit.

Speaker 1 (01:13:11):
There A great idea.

Speaker 2 (01:13:12):
Man, I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:13:15):
I'm always in that.

Speaker 3 (01:13:17):
It's my piece for time. It's like a thirty minute
it's my piece for Tony.

Speaker 2 (01:13:20):
Does I mean if you pull up in the world,
you look over, there's eight someone they're doing I'm saying,
they're like a.

Speaker 1 (01:13:29):
Squat machine.

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
They on a squat machine in the the Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:13:33):
My version of that is rolling.

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
Rolling through that Taco Bell drive and then going and
parking and just looking over and there's there's three other
dudes sitting there Taco Bell with the windows, real talking, eating,
eating little cheek snack.

Speaker 1 (01:13:47):
And at the gym. Now because I know I'm the guy.

Speaker 2 (01:13:49):
Oh man, I used to pull up the playing fitness
when I went there, There'll be thirty dudes in a row,
just like just water tripping out of the bottom of
my trucks where they're leaving the ace.

Speaker 1 (01:14:01):
Man, y'all are awesome. It's been a lot of fun.
We we end every show with a little favorite segment,
right and uh, and we're gonna do the same thing and.

Speaker 2 (01:14:11):
Tell us why this song means something to you? Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:14:14):
This was my uh, this was our segue into country
music growing up, because like I said, my dad was
our you know, main influence, and he turned us on
to all the southern soul. And when Travis Tripp came out,
I was like, that's my guy.

Speaker 1 (01:14:28):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:14:28):
Now I'm kind of getting into country music a little
bit because he was. He was bridging that southern rock
gap for the country, you know. So we played this song,
you know, my dad's band every night, this one and
put some drive in your country and and uh, you know,
I mean all that stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:14:50):
I used to play.

Speaker 2 (01:14:51):
I used to play that one.

Speaker 1 (01:14:52):
Yeah, it's cool because you know.

Speaker 4 (01:14:53):
And in the in the recorded version he said is uh,
Damn I miss Dwayne Oman.

Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
I wish he was still around. You're still a version
of a live version.

Speaker 4 (01:15:06):
He did on c M T he says, Damn I
miss Stevie rayvong with Stevie because Stevie.

Speaker 2 (01:15:10):
Ray just died.

Speaker 4 (01:15:11):
Wow for that and they were too guitar heroes. He
just he got me as a fan. Right now, he's
singing my kind of music. He's talking about Steve Ray
and Dwayne.

Speaker 2 (01:15:20):
I was like, yeah, we we you know that's my
youngest boy's middle name is Duane like that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:25):
Oh yeah, that's cool stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
You got me in that Ray. I can't hear nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:15:29):
You're not gonna we're not gonna hear.

Speaker 2 (01:15:33):
Kid g that are I see.

Speaker 5 (01:15:44):
Same?

Speaker 6 (01:15:45):
Were wrong?

Speaker 3 (01:15:47):
Ever?

Speaker 2 (01:15:47):
Leave me?

Speaker 1 (01:15:50):
You sorry? You love some and you see be heavy?
You could just come back home. Well, here's a quarter
call someone.

Speaker 5 (01:16:06):
Who ca call someone who listens and my giving dam
maybe one of your sort of face.

Speaker 1 (01:16:22):
And don't you.

Speaker 5 (01:16:23):
Come around here and.

Speaker 1 (01:16:26):
None of your lines. So here's a quarter call someone
who came a little hand bone man, you coming after?

(01:16:46):
They go, yeah, we gotta tell them. We gotta tell
a couple of things. Come show right now with my camera.

Speaker 4 (01:16:57):
Flock.

Speaker 1 (01:16:57):
That's right. Shout out shout out to Covis for for
keeping the lights on around his place. And thank you
guys man, Yeah man, thanks.

Speaker 2 (01:17:04):
For coming on.

Speaker 1 (01:17:06):
Story you congrats on everything that continue success past success,
bro y'all. Are y'all have been a staple in and
country music for a long time in Nashville, And uh
is it crazier? Ingrained in the culture of country music forever.

Speaker 3 (01:17:20):
I think that's what's happened in the past, uh a
couple of years, and that's what has been amazing seeing that.

Speaker 1 (01:17:27):
It's the truth. Man. Yeah, you're baby like finding people
like we know who you are? You know, really that.

Speaker 3 (01:17:41):
Part of it is probably, like you said, past a
couple of years that you've that's all.

Speaker 1 (01:17:45):
That's great.

Speaker 2 (01:17:47):
Y'all doing it with family and all that, that's awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:17:51):
Where y'all going to? Where can our listeners come see
you play this?

Speaker 2 (01:17:54):
This this far?

Speaker 1 (01:17:54):
We're in the Oyster Fest and uh, I remember the name.

Speaker 4 (01:17:59):
I did a video for Yestera in Connecticut coast.

Speaker 1 (01:18:02):
I hope that's on the coast. I'm excited to Orchard Fest.

Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
I love to.

Speaker 4 (01:18:06):
And then we're like I said, you go to at
Parmelely music dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:18:09):
All our tour dates are up there. You know, we're
all over the place. So I know I'm going to Vegas.

Speaker 4 (01:18:14):
Yeah, Vegas playing there, going to be in like NORFN, Virginia.
Kind that's about the closest to home in a while.
But yeah, check out the tour dates there and you
can get like v I P. We do VI I
P packages before the show and all.

Speaker 1 (01:18:26):
That kind of stuff and meet everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:18:28):
Yep, yeah yeah, we're gonna come and see you all.
Come on, we can do some fishing with it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:40):
I love fish, Yeah, we we. I'm the fishing I
do more to fishing, but we still do hunting together.

Speaker 2 (01:18:46):
That's he's the fisher guy. I'm hunting.

Speaker 1 (01:18:48):
Yeah, there you go. Right, that's right, young b. Thank
you for coming. Man, don't have a good gotten times
Parmly Man. Thanks God's Country'll see you next time.

Speaker 4 (01:19:12):
M hmm.
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