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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where we keep
checking Instagram captions and comments for the latest gymnastics shade.
On today's show, lots of Olympic news, a cute little
friendship blossoming before our eyes, and will be joined by
Around the Horn producer Josh Bard and Ultra Marathon or
Klain Conahan to talk three x three basketball, WNBA, drama
and main character energy. It's all coming up right after
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this big show today. But first, here's what you need
to know today. Canada Soccer all right, in what's becoming
a daily segment, We've got a drone gate update, and
stick with us, folks, because this is kind of a
rollercoaster of a ride. On Wednesday, Canada Soccer attempted to
appeal the six point deduction imposed by FIFA for drone spying,
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but the Court of Arbitration for Sport dismissed the case.
The most interesting news to come out of the ongoing
saga was an email from now suspended Canada head coach
Bev Priestman published by FIFA. Here's an excerpt from what
FIFA released.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Quote.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
It's something the analyst has always done and I know
there is a whole operation on the men's side with
regards to it. We had Redacted in with us recently
and he was outstanding in this area, Priestman wrote, continuing quote.
Yesterday in a meeting, when discussing, I asked Redacted to
propose an alternative solution as for scouting, it can be
a difference between winning and losing, and all top ten
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teams do it. Yike's not a good look. So Canada
lost its appeal, but they won the war.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
The Canadians defeated Columbia one nil to finish their group undefeated,
so despite the six point deduction, they're going to advance
to the quarterfinal round, where they'll face Germany. Also in soccer,
the US confirmed its spot at the top of Group
B with a two to one win over Australia on Wednesday.
Trinity Rodman and Corbyn Albert recorded goals. Also, here's a
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cool stat the US scored nine goals in group play,
the program's most ever in the Olympic Tournament in group play.
Love that after they entered the tournament worry about their
ability to finish. Next up for the US, they'll play
Japan in the quarterfinal round on Saturday, and if they
win that and Canada wins their quarterfinal, get ready for
some drones above your practice, America, because we'll be set
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for a cross border semi final. Yep, that's right, America
Versus America's heat more soccer. Brazilian soccer legend Marta might
see her international career end on a sour note. In
Brazil's Group C game against Spain on Wednesday, the sixth
time Olympian was shown a straight red card during the
sixth minute of first half stoppage time after her boot
connected with the head of Olga Carmona of Spain. It
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was a for sure deserved red card, but it's still
not how any of us wanted to see Marta in
green and yellow go out. Brazil went on to lose
the game to nothing, but it's not over yet. Brazil
will advance to the quarterfinals with one of the lucky
loser third place spots, but because of the red card,
Marta will not be allowed to compete in that game.
Brazil needs to make it to the semifinals in order
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for Marta to get back into the game and get
the Olympics send off that.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
We all know she deserves.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
In the pool, Katie Ladeci won gold in the fifteen
hundred meter, and on the one hand, of course she did.
Girl has a loss of fifteen hundred meter race in
fourteen years, and she also owns the twenty fastest times
in history. But also let us never take for granted
the greatness of Katie Ladecci. With the gold her twelfth
career medal, she tied Jenny Thompson, Dara Torres, and Natalie
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Coglin for the most ever by an American female swimmer,
and she still got the eight hundred meter to compete
in Paris. Some cool rugby news so following the US
team's incredible bronze medal went on Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
And if you haven't, I'm begging you please go watch
the highlight.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
USA rugby received an unprecedented donation from Michelle Kang. Michelle
Kang is the business mogul who owns the NWSL's Washington Spirit,
France's Olympic Leone Feminine, and the London City Lioness's women's
soccer clubs. She's already a huge investor in women's soccer,
but now she's donating four million dollars to US rugby
to help the squad prepare for the twenty twenty eight
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Los Angeles Olympics. She said she's getting them ready to
grab the gold in La Side note, you guys know
that this show is obsessed with breakout rugby star Alon
omar Well. Her sister Olivia Maar aka at Livy mar
is also a content creator, also hilarious, and she's the
girl responsible for the term girl dinner.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
No shit, for real, I am obsessed with this family.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
There is a third sister too, So we just we
need a show, Bravo. Let's hear it, let's see it,
let's do it. Come on, we need it to canoe slalom.
That's right, canoe slalom. Because if you listen to our
episode with AJ McCord, you already know who Avi Libfarth
is and you were excited to watch her. And aren't
you glad you did? Because on Wednesday, Lebfarth won bronze
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in canoe slalom. She actually almost didn't even make the final.
She was the last athlete to squeak in from qualifications,
but it didn't matter. With the result of the bronze medal,
she becomes the first ever US medalist in canoe slalom.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Gymnastics.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
The gymnastics individual all around final is today at twelve
fifteen pm Eastern. Simone Biles and Sunny Lee both will
be competing for the US, marking the first time in
Olympic history that two previous all around champions will go
head to head for gold. We cannot wait, but as
psyched as we are for that, we are pretty bummed
that we're not gonna be able to watch Jordan Childs
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compete too. She finished fourth in qualifying out of all
of the competitors, but she won't be able to compete
due to gymnastics two per country rule. To soccer outside
of the Olympics, this is the best news. It's been
more than two years since US soccer star and Angel
City forward Kristin Press has played a professional match, but
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she's back.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Baby. Press is a two time World Cup champion.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
She tore her ACL in June twenty twenty two, and
it has been a very long recovery process, including four
different ACL surgeries. She's been super open about the heartbreak
and the pain and the struggle of fighting through this rehab,
and so we're so excited to see her back. She's
expected to compete in Angel City's Mxfeminial Summer Cup against
the San Diego Wave at ten pm Eastern tonight.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Also breaking news, y'all.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
According to high class sporting outlets like Eonline and Today
dot Com, Kristen is dating fellow soccer player Tobin Heath.
In fact, they quote unquote revealed that they've been dating
for eight years.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
I just can't believe Eonline out scooped all.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Of us sport journals on the story. I am, of
course kidding.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Quote.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Our people always knew what was going on with us,
said Kristin to Peacock's Watch with Alex Cooper.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
We sure did.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Kristin one of our favorite power couples for many years running.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
You can watch and listen to their recap show.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Where they're keeping you up to date with all the
Olympic soccer news and everything else.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
It's a really smart and wonderful show, so check it.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Out and congrats to the happy couple still acting like
they just fell in love.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
By the way, quick rant on the competitions taking place
in the River Send, which have been a fecal point, sorry,
focal point leading up to these games. Let me start
by saying I was rooting for you, Paris. We were all.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Rooting for you.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
It was going to be an incredible historic venue and
a cool way to leave an Olympic legacy for the
city with a clean and swimmable river. But when it
seemed like you weren't going to make the deadline, you
should have found a new plan, because here's what happened instead.
The men triathletes had their Olympic preparations disrupted after their
race was postponed less than five hours before it was
supposed to start on Tuesday after heavy rainfall over the
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weekend contributed to increase pollution in the river. And then
the men and the women, who were always scheduled to
race on Wednesday, had to wait for early morning tests
yesterday that showed that the water quality had reached adequate standards.
So first the men prepare for a day and then
don't compete, and then both the men and the women
have to go to bed at night presuming that they
may or may not race, and then wait until that
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morning to find out if their going to race in
a few hours. It's unfair to these triathletes to postpone
events and then give last minute warning on rescheduled starts.
They've spent their whole lives preparing for this one moment,
and your reclamation of the sund bullshit was prioritized over
their prep What if their routine was thrown off, their
timing for sleep or vitamins or car bloating. I'm happy
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for all the medalists, and I really hope everyone else
felt prepared and ready.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
But this was a real marred way to do things France.
That means shit. All right, folks, we have to take
another break.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
When we come back, a man has entered the chat.
All right, it's time for another group chat where we
take the tea from the text.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
And bring it on to the airwaves. Joining us now.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
He's a producer for ESPNS Around the Horn and the
show's Syrao de Bergerac in the wings, feeding your favorite
panelists some of their best jokes.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Never me though, those were all mine.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
The rare millennial who's stayed in the same job since
graduating from college. That's eighteen years at the show, and
he's a longtime runner. In fact, a few months ago
he ran with and guided a visually impaired runner in
the Boston Marathon after several months of training together.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
It's Josh bard Hi Hi Josh.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
She's a VP of global sales and a creative mastermind
for Legends by day and an ultra marathon or by
night and day at another night.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Those races take like thirty five hours.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
She's fought a hooboob Google It once got hit by
a passenger truck and a crosswalk she had the walk sign.
And she knows where to take a girl for good
Indian food in DC. She's Kalain Conahan.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
What's up, Colaine?
Speaker 3 (09:36):
What's up? Everybody? Good to be here?
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Fun fact they used to be married and now they
aren't welcome to group chat friends. Colain, I gotta start
with you because I need to do a wellness check.
So just a few days ago, you completed your second
bad Water one thirty five. That is a one hundred
and thirty five mile foot race. It starts at Badwater Basin,
the lowest point in North America, and ends at the
portal of Mount Whitney, the tall mountain in the lower
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forty eight. The race has three sections of mountain climbs,
takes place at one hundred and ten plus degrees in
Death Valley, California, and is strictly for absolute sickos. Tell
us how you did, how you felt about it, any
mysteriousaboobs or other natural disasters that you encountered.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Well, we'll start with the natural disasters. So it started
more or less in a thunderstorm that was unexpected. And
what's always so funny, Death Valley is very much a
desert desert, right, we have literal tumble weeds cacti everywhere.
But yeah, started in a thunderstorm, and people then continued
complaining about the humidity for most of the race, I
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living in the swamps of Washington, d C. Did not
notice or detect humidity whatsoever. My hair remained flat to
frizzy the whole time. And also in terms of I
don't know this like registers as a natural disaster, but
there was a swarm of bees.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Not afairs, not airs.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Great, So the first climb, it's a seventeen mile climb
from mile let's call it forty two to like fifty eight.
And when you're getting you're crusting that it's like super steep,
and all of a sudden there are race officials who
come out of a car and they're holding a sign
that's just like bees swarming ahead like cover maximally, which
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you know, I'm obviously not trying to cover maximally.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
It's one hundred and fifteen degrees and.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Yeah, so was being attacked by bees. Fortunately I didn't
get stung. I apparently other people at the race did,
but I just used my kind of like swat and
go method of not being scared of bees. But yet again,
like one of the many ways to your earlier point
about running through a hoopoob, there are just these obstacles.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
That bad water throws at you that you have to
be prepared for.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
And I guess, having run at a second time, I just
need to expect the unexpected. So I think maybe my
next training cycle I will all so have like an
ultimate Ninja Warrior training methodology in addition to running mileage
and doing heat training. But holistically, the race went really well.
My body held up. I had tons of chafing as expected.
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I'm looking if Azilene wants to sponsor me, I am available.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Like the amount the amount.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Of times that I went back to the tub of
asileene and just tried to hit every crevice and orifice
and honestly, but it was it was fantastic. It was hard,
which is what I came there for the hardest part
for me was actually sleep deprivation.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
So you start at night.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
I started at nine pm on Monday night, and by
Tuesday evening, let's call it, you know, midnight pushing two am.
My goodness, like it wiped me. I could barely keep
my eyes open and was quite literally you know the
dads in the recliner nodding off to sleep.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
No, I'm just resting my eyes.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
That was me on the side of the road, progressing forward,
you know, arm swing, sleep running, sleep running, sleep running.
I yeah, it was wild, but after that wave passed,
I was able to climb up Mount Whitney and cross
the finish line in a sprint.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
And you know, I'm somehow no worse for wear, no blisters.
We'll see if mal survive.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Yeah, and I love that it's like a thirty plus
hour race.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
And Josh, you said you tuned into the live stream
to see how she was doing, just in time to
see her like sprint the finish, which, by the way,
is gross that you were sprinting after one undred and
thirty five miles.
Speaker 5 (13:37):
Yeah, claint, have you talked to Vassiline about getting you
like a plunge a cold plunge, a vasiline cold plunge.
You can just like ice bath and vassiline at the
same time.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
That's like the new Netflix and Chill. It's like vasoline and.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Plunge plunge, and you don't need someone else to join you.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
You can do it all. These people can.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Read your esp story about your first bad Water by
googling bad Water Ultra Marathon What I lost and found
during one hundred and thirty five miles of the World's
most impossible run. We'll also put the link in the
episode notes because I think some of the details of
running a race like that, how you're literally chugging leaders
of coke and candy. That was the part my mom
could not get past as a health nut. She's like,
there's got to be something better, There's got to be
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something smarter. It's like, no, just straight up carbs and
candy and sugar right to the brain.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Just congratulations you.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Literally I'm obsessed with you, but I also think you're insane.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Thank you, Josh.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
I want to congratulate you, first of all, being the
very first man on the podcast.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
The DEI Hire of Good Google.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Yeah, we got so many complaints about you know, non representation.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
You have earned your number one status by being my
favorite producer at ESPN and for always fighting the good
fight for women's sports. You always work to get more
stories on around the horn. You're on the inside at
the biggest sports network in the world, and from that
vantage point, I'm wondering how you've seen the attitude toward
including female athletes and shows and women's sports coverage change
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and what still needs to change, what's kind of getting
in the way of more women's sports on major networks.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
How long is this podcast going to go? I would
feel much more comfortable talking about our show and how
we've done, and you know, it's I've seen like market change.
I definitely feel a lot better about where we're going,
and I think that we've sort of you know, I
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want to be careful about bragging about what we've done
for women because I've seen how that can go wrong
on ESPN. But I also, you know, we're really proud
of being a show that has talked about the w
NBA for years and you know, again, like we could,
I know we can do better. I know we are
consistently doing better. I think it's been interesting that at
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like we used to have to have the conversations about
whether or not the story x Y or Z story
about women's sports was good because it was an important
story to do. And now, you know, like we talk
about some of the stories as, oh, these are good
for ratings. You know, people care so much about Kaitlin Clark,
Angel Reese, Asia Wilson, the WNBA that it's a lot
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easier to sell sometimes the stories. And then also for
our panelists, and I know I've heard used to talk
about this Sarah is like in the past it had
to be a bit of a cram session for panelists
to learn of these names. I mean the number of
times that I have had to tell someone that it's
Sabrina jon Escu and not I own Escu. Well, at
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least it's getting fewer and fewer now, you know, like
you know, everyone knows this stuff or or everyone knows
a lot more about this stuff, and that to me
is been really awesome to see. And I know I've
texted both of you before about just how cool it is,
Like I feel like you guys are people in my
life who have been, you know, at the top of
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this wave when there weren't waves, and now you're at
the top of this wave and it's a tidal wave
and you get to ride it in and I know
it's not going to be smooth every day all the time, obviously,
but it's pretty cool to see where we are now.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Yeah, for sure, the show has done a really good
job of incorporating it, and I think pushing back sometimes
when there were panelists that were like, oh, I don't
know that, because I would always want to say, okay,
but I don't know MMA, and that's also on our airwaves,
and I have to learn that stuff and watch it
so you can also learn Sabrino n Escu's name. Let's
talk about a handful of things, really, but I wanted
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to start with an email I got about my Cheryl
Swoops interview on Tuesday, because you know, if we had
started this show at the beginning of the WNBA season,
we would have covered a lot of what was going on.
We started right before these Olympics, and so we're a
lot of Olympic talk and I've kind of chosen to
move forward with the WNBA season and what we're seeing
now instead of going backwards. But you know, I did
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get some criticism for that. Now I want to read
this to you and see what you'd think. This is
just part of the email I got. Is this what
good game is going to be? Quote her response when
opinions about Caitlin Clark devolved into personal attacks, really opinions.
I get that being at a conference for the interview
meant that you were never going to get into it
with Cheryl Swoops, and that's fine, but framing the incident
in that way and your description is ridiculous. Yes, they're
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idiot trolls that went after Swoops and they're terrible, But
if you're going to open that door, walk.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Through it, why did they go after swoops?
Speaker 1 (18:27):
She said Caitlyn's scoring records shouldn't count because she did
it in the five years and Plum did it in four.
Caitlyn did do it in four and for the record,
because of COVID in fewer games in Plumb. She added
that Caitlin is so dominant because she's twenty five playing
against twenty year olds. Caitlyn's twenty two, and topped it
off by saying Caitlyn shoots forty times a game.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Caitlyn shoots twenty two times a game. None of that
is opinion.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
That's an older player using her platform to spread lies
and try to diminish the accomplishments of a young player.
She also tried that it's just an opinion excuse initially,
but finally caved when people pointed out that all of
her facts were wrong. As far as I can tell,
she's only ever apologized for making a mistake about the
five years. If you want to make good game, just good,
I understand, but you also shouldn't go out of your
way to sweep swoops terrible behavior under the rug. So guys,
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I want you to keep me honest here. I considered
asking Cheryl directly about that interview, specifically because I agree
that I didn't like that she didn't have the right
facts when she was making those takes, or about Caitlin
in general. But I kind of felt like relitigating something
she said and already apologized, at least in part for
wasn't the best use of time with someone who has
Cheryl's accomplishments, resume and insight. And I'm not really interested
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in rehashing a lot of the unhind shit that started
this season because I've been discussing it to death and
it was really damaging to the league and to the players,
both current and former, and I think people stopped taking commentary,
including what Cheryl had to say, at face value, and
started using people as avatars for culture wars, including Cheryl,
but you're a producer, Josh, was I wrong, first of
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all for not addressing it, and secondly for putting that
quote in the caption, even if that is what Cheryl
was addressing people calling her racist and names and things
like that.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
Well, I would say that I would have liked to
hear you ask her about it, because it does feel
like maybe she could have used time to clarify her
points so that people weren't using her in a culture
war and as an avatar for the thing that she
certainly well I don't want to say certainly didn't mean,
but probably didn't mean. A thing that I like to
try to do is to not presume why people are
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saying things if they're saying something wrong, which in this case,
she said a couple wrong facts, and it seemed that
those facts like kind of guided her opinion. But I
don't want to make an assumption of why she did
that that she hates Caitlan Clark, or she hates white
people or whatever, like I mean, I want to say,
of course not, but again, like it's just like why
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she knows why she did it, and it's probably I
think we can say it's probably a mistake that she made.
But just like, jumping to humongous conclusions about reasons why
people do stuff is always like a dicey ground for me.
So I guess I would say that I would have
liked to have heard her answer on it. I don't
feel like I've heard her answer on it, but I
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think I would like not to call her out, but
just to give her a chance to explain what happened.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
That's a really good answer. And you're making me regret
not asking her, Colayne, what do you think.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
I mean, Frank, I'm I'm over it, right Like, I'm
not saying that people don't need to be held accountable
for their comments.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
But this is literally months ago.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
If you haven't moved on my opinion, that's on you, right,
Like she did answer for it, either accept her apology
or you don't. In my opinion, Cheryl Swoops is a
legend who has done more for the game of women's
basketball and for women's sports then I'm going to take
away from her from one interview, right, Like I'm over it.
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People make mistakes if they own up to them and pay.
You know, I was about to say pay the reaper.
That feels very very like aggressive, you know, like like
if you pay your dues, then then I'm happy to
move on, right, I think again, like, I'm sure I'm
gonna make mistakes. I'm gonna say dumb shit during this interview, uh,
you know. And and if I'm not able to apologize
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and move on, then like what's the point of civil discourse?
Speaker 5 (22:13):
Right?
Speaker 3 (22:13):
And and again like to me, it's Cheryl swoops, right,
like she knows more.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
About the game. Yeah, she made some misguided judgments. If
you are a Kitlyn Clark fan, which I'm presuming that
that that person, yeah, person is man Like I can't
wait to see how Caitlyn uses that. She's used every
slight and every every set back as a launch pad
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and I would just let her eat that and then
see what it becomes. Like That's that to me is
it's nightmare fuel for the rest of the w NBA.
And you know, someday Cheryl Swoops and Kaitlyn Clark will
shake hands and Kaitlyn may have the last laugh.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Who's to say? And I think that's that.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
To me is sports right, Like, but I'm I'm over it.
I don't I don't need to go back to you know,
March April. It's July. We're moving on to August. Here,
it's the Olympics, Like, let's have some fun and get
past some of this dumb stuff that just feels like.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Yeah, old, I agree with both of you.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
To be honest, it's like I would have wanted to
hear what Cheryl had to say directly, but also like
part of the reason I wanted to move forward is
I do feel like, no matter what she said, the
people who have already made up their mind about her
are going to spin it. And so the way that
they've made these players' stand ins for racist or political
bullshit instead of taking commentary at face value, has made
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it really difficult to have realistic and logical conversations around
this stuff, specifically Caitlin and Angel. And I'm not going
to argue that even sometimes the players aren't at fault
for buying into how they've become made avatars of larger
cultural wars and have leaned into certain things that make
it harder to argue that they aren't aware of what's
going on. But again to Josh's point, if we every
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time assume intent and also don't consider everything that they're
getting that we might not be aware of, whether that's tweets,
text messages, et cetera, that might inform their opinions. You know,
it gets a little dicey, which is why I think
I wanted to try to get back to basketball and
get a little more level headed in our coverage that
when we did have those conversations there could be a
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fresher palette in advance of them.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Josh, do you have some an.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
Ad No, I was gonna say. I you said you
agree with both of us. I think I agree with
both of us too. I don't you know, like we're
not coming at it. I think from at least not
opposing vantage points, just two different vantage points at a
place where there's many and unfortunately, you know, like a
lot of people don't see that you can see things
from different ways.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Yeah, well I did, you can let Angel.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Yeah, Klaine disagrees that you're agreeing everyone's wrong.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Sticking with basketball. You both have had.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Strong feelings in the group chat about the women's three
x three team at the Olympics. I got a flurry
of texts from you in our group chat after their
opening loss to Germany and meish. As we're recording this,
they are battling way too tip for tap with Azerbaijan.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
What happened? They lost? They lost?
Speaker 6 (25:08):
You know, and you know what and you know what
makes it worse or better depending on how you look
at it. I think it's spicy Tip Hays game winner,
Tip Hays, Tiffany Hayes Las Vegas aces star playing for
Azerbaijan gets a leap that ends up being the difference.
So they got I think Spain in Australia on uh
oh no on today, technically on Thursday and oh gosh, yeah, So.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Okay, there's a right, So let's just let's just start
with this. For those who don't know technically, I'm calling
it this because that's what they call it. Their three
x three is what they call it in the world.
It's a four player roster. Two players have to be
ranked within the top ten of their country to qualify,
and two players have to be ranked within the top
fifty of their country or have the minimum number of
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ranking points. So this is like Feeble World Cup and
different competitions. So this was sort of the goal with
three x three TMUSA women's basketball in particular, so far
ahead of the world due to a million things, title nine, resources, investment,
et cetera.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Doesn't feel like they're gonna be caught for a while.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Three x three allows for other countries to put forward
some teams that are more competitive. And also in the US,
we haven't invested enough in three x three to be
as skilled, even if we have the players that could
be great at it, Clay, what would you like to
change looking at this roster or just in general.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Our approach, Mama Mia. Well, first off, one of the
people who was part of the pool was Alisha.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Gray, who just won everything to win in the WNBA
All Star Weekend.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
What are we.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
Doing with her at home while these players are fighting
and battling.
Speaker 5 (26:48):
Like she won a gold medal. She won a gold
medal with this three on three T three by three
team last year too, So why are we why.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Not carrying on that experience? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Bring her to Paris? What are we doing?
Speaker 4 (27:00):
And I mean I took a look at the pool
of options, of which you know my opinion, Alicia Gray
and Kelsey Mitchell are the two best ones that are
not included who are on on the option, But I
legitimately can think of like two to three players across
the w NBA who I believe should have been part
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of that pool. Like my my number one pick, I
think is Dowanna Bonner, whose fiance is already in Paris.
You're telling me you don't want those limbs, you don't
want that stretch, you don't want that woman.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
With that attitude. Bring Dewana Bonner. What are we doing?
She's a nightmare? Like how do you guard her? So anyway,
if we.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Like we want to invest in somebody, who can I
just feel like there's so many better options for a
roster and if the goal you know, I think there
were some conversations around who's available for Team USA and
who's not, But like, where's a Rique on this pool?
Speaker 5 (27:57):
Right?
Speaker 4 (27:57):
I know she backed away from the opportunit unity before
not being selected for five on five, But I just
feel like, for most I don't know what we're I
don't know what team USA is looking for in building
out this three x three roster. Are we actually investing
in the future of USA basketball? In which case, you know,
like we've got to be making better decisions Josh, you
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want to.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
See a different lineup or do you think it's tough
for players to like prioritize three x three if they're
trying to either make the five on five team or
prep for other leagues.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
Yeah, so I want to put the qualifications of having
to have played a certain number of games off to
the side right now, because A I didn't do the research.
I am the man on the woman's podcast, so I
want to do less work than all of you guys
for the same amount of time. And also it's dumb.
It's dumb, and like this roster is straight up not good.
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Like you've scored thirty points in two games so far,
and I get it, Kelsey plumb, Jackie Young graduated. I
guess we'll call it to the five on five team.
But like Clainne said, Alisha Gray was here, I don't
know where she could possibly be unless she chose not
to do this, which, you know, whatever this team is,
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Like Haley van Lyft, I mean, where where do we
even begin? Like I thought she was an awesome player
who had cool attitude on Louisville, and I thought she
was a player who couldn't even stay on the floor
in the tournament for LSU. She was. I mean, I
don't want to be too mean, but I thought that
was sort of an embarrassing performance. The announcers were calling
it out. The team didn't seem to really have a
(29:35):
spot for her play want to play with her. She
was getting cooked every game down the stretch. Anyways, I
can't imagine a world where she could be our best
possible option. I don't want to be just like a
headline grabber. I think this team is absolutely a team
that should be playing for gold and not just for ratings.
But Caitlin Clark couldn't make this team. Like, it's fine,
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I don't need her on the five on five team
if she's not one of the best players, But like,
I would treat this three by three team as almost
like the second level of the five on five. And
I know it's a different sport. I mean, I played basketball,
claim I actually play on the same team, and we've
been playing a little bit of this sort of Olympic
style when we've been playing h intro team scrimmage stuff.
(30:19):
I get how it can be different. I totally do,
but can't tell me Caitlyn Clark wouldn't beatful, can't tell
me Angel, Recee wouldn't be useful. Can't tell me, uh, you.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Know, can't tell you nothing.
Speaker 5 (30:30):
Can't tell me nothing, Angel.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Because shooting is going to be just as important.
Speaker 5 (30:34):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Fine, I think the flexibility of being able to shoot
from outside and inside, have size, be able to defend.
That's the only issue with Caitlyn too defensively. I'm not
sure if she's the best true to both ways, but
me sure you got so.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
You both bring up extremely interesting points.
Speaker 6 (30:51):
And before I get to my person, Josh, I want
to touch on something real quick that you just said
that I think is very a smart strategy for Team USA.
I feel like if if you use the three x
three team like you said, as that step that next
you know level, right before you get to five on five,
it is a different game. But the game of basketball
at the Olympic level is more so about reads than
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you know what I mean, anything else. And in three
on three all you're doing for ten straight minutes. Yeah, okay,
you might have a set you run here or there,
meaning like a play that you designed beforehand, but for
the most most part, you got like twelve seconds to
score the basketball. You don't have time to do all
this stuff in the world, so you have to make
the best read. Three on three helps you do that
five on five. It's just you know, like a lot
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of people who grew up playing basketball, you do the
three man weave and then you do the five person
like it's the same thing. Just add two more people
in the mix and figure it out. So I feel
like one can definitely help you do the other. I
wouldn't go from five on five to three on three.
I would definitely, you know, I like that.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Part of the issue here is, of course, that these
players have to take away time from other things, Like
Caitlyn wouldn't have had time to qualify. Other players might
not have time to qualify. But I do agree that
it feels like maybe america exceptionalism and ego caused us
to believe, yeah, we'll just throw some people out there.
One's a college player, one's a former WNBA player, but
not anymore to others are like, you know, we're just
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kind of throwing people out thinking we have the dominance
because we're dominant at the five on five, and that
is very.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Clearly being shown not to be true here. Do y'all
think that with Unrivaled.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
I know that they're calling it three by three to
it's different and they are having different rules than the
three x three in the Olympics, But the general vibe.
Do you think that new Unrivaled dig from the FISA
Collier and Brianna Stewart is going to help the US
prep some candidates for this hope?
Speaker 2 (32:35):
So I do.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
And that's actually one of the things I was gonna
say is that, like, you know, don't I don't want
to disrespect these players. I they're way better than I am.
And like Cameron Brink getting injured and being replaced with
Dereka Hanby, like that's legit. They haven't had the opportunity
to play this format, and I think that playing it
with Unrivaled will really help. Not only will it help
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those players play this format and probably increase the speed
of play in the w NBA. Right, Like having played
three x three a few times and like it's it
is fun, it is super entertaining, it is a great watch,
and I want us to be I want us to
wipe the floor with the rest of the world like
we do in every basketball competition.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
That's what that's like. Uh, that's what I want as
an annoyingly uh you know, nationalist.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Patriotic.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
Exactly right, very problematic out here. But I think that
like getting more reps will really help and it will
also help Team U. I say, identify for sure who
can play this format and like who are the best
people to compete because going back to the Olympic gold
medal team from Tokyo, like, I feel like that squad
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was incredible. Like I would never in a million years
have been like, yep, Steph Dolson, that's the one, but
she was perfect.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
She is such a.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
Versatile big yeah, who's like super smart, makes the right decisions.
And another person I had on my list going back
to like, yeah, exactly, another person I had on my
list was Djena Carrington and Benijela Laney. Like I think
the two of them would be amazing because they're super athletic.
Benija is so strong and I think she's one of
the smartest players. Yeah, I think she's one of the
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smartest players in the W And I just think that
given the quick decision making that you have to make
during three x three, that's what I want. And I
think that's like Kelsey Plum and Jackie Young, that's what
they bring to the table. They're most like, really versatile
guards who can play on both sides, are very athletic
and can finish like that's what that's kind of what
we're missing here. I think Ryan Howard feels to me
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like a good pick for the existing team. I like
her on there, but you know, otherwise it's players that
maybe aren't clicking. And yeah, I think Unrivaled will be
a really interesting proving ground for you know, the future
of this particular event.
Speaker 5 (34:51):
There's a player, a thirty four year old from Polk County, Florida,
who we could have had, who would have qualified because
she qualified for Azerbaij. We could have just had Tiffany Hayes.
That's one I also on my list I had and
I again I'm putting qualifications aside. Why couldn't And I
know that the Mystics are having, you know, a lesser
than season with a lot of injuries, but like you
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roll out there, Ariel Atkins, my Aisha Heinz, Allen, Tory Walker,
kimbro who've been playing together for years, who can stretch,
who can play bigger and smaller? What I mean, what
are we doing? Why Why are we playing college players
over gosh.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
This three x three has turned us into Taylor twelve man,
what are we doing out here?
Speaker 6 (35:32):
We're missing Kennedy Carter too. That's my last one. I'm
gonna just throw that one in the mix, because what
are you kidding?
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Are you kidding?
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Also good one, just bringing some dogs out there to
scare the other countries is And like you guys have
named a few, we are going to need to take
this part of the chat back to the text because
we're running out of time and we have to close
with the latest edition of Fight Me Now. Colaan, I
know you're into Kim Yedgi because you sent her our
way and now we're completely enamored with her as well,
(36:00):
and so is the rest of the world. A few
comments from social about Kim Yeedgie is this the hottest
and coolest.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Anyone has ever looked in history?
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Possibly this girl is a movie character, like how is
she real? GQ Magazine's Eileen Carter wrote, Kim looked straight
out of a cyberpunk fanfit. And what's more, her Olympic
ensemble featured enough personable details like the elephant plushy charm
that could even warrant her theoretical character's own built out backstory.
And that's literally what I texted you to. When I
first saw I was like, we need a movie starring her,
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not a doc a feature film.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Which brings us to the latest edition of Fight Me.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
I need the five Olympic athletes you'd most like to
see star in a feature film.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
It could be about their life, or it could have
nothing at all to do with them. You just like
their vibes. Colaine, you go first.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
Okay, So I'm taking Kim Yejie off the top, because
here's the deal. If you want a feature film, you
need a flawed protagonist. You need somebody like a little mysterious,
a little bit messy, like we don't know really what's up,
Like like what is she into, what does she hate?
Speaker 3 (37:02):
What makes her? What makes her tick?
Speaker 4 (37:03):
And I just feel like she is the pinnacle of
mystery there. This can't be like just say, none of
my characters are just like a run of the mill.
This is your triumphant hero. Like, I don't want to
watch that movie. I'm not interested. I want a little
bit of mess. So that brings me to number two,
which is Lolo Jones. So like I am a bage
Lolo lover going back to like we're going back to Beijing,
(37:28):
Lolo Jones like all the promise in the world, and
then just you know, watching her fall over hurdles was
like personally devastating to me. Ran the hurdles in high
school with my very short legs. I've had to four step.
I am nowhere near Olympic caliber. Seeing how her career
has changed and how she's pivoted not only to being
(37:51):
a summer Olympic athlete but also to a Bob's letter,
maybe she can't let go. She's been on MTV's The Challenge.
She's still very publicly a virgin, but like, this is
a flawed protagonist.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
So I think Lolo is my number two, and I
know there are more important things than sex, but I
really want her to get laid in the movie.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Can we do that?
Speaker 6 (38:13):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (38:14):
Good point, hot body is all I'm saying, truly, all right.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
Number three is maybe cheating, But I'm going with somebody
who already has a feature film, Tanya Harding.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
I Comma Tanya.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
So I think that Tanya Harding is this exact flawed protagonist.
Like what a phenomenal movie that was. And again, maybe
I'm cheating. But maybe I just want the sequel.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
Where is she now? What's going on?
Speaker 4 (38:41):
I would like I would like to extend the story.
Number four is Babe Didrickson Zaharius. I just like she
maybe is more the pure hero, but I haven't done enough. Again,
the narrative, the media storytelling around women's sports when Babe
was coming up was very limited, so like, who knows,
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maybe she's an asshole, Like we don't know, we don't
actually know. We just see her and I hold her
up as this like incredible, dynamic multi sport athlete who
succeeded when women were really discouraged from doing anything athletic.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
Whatsoever? I want more?
Speaker 4 (39:17):
And then the last one. I mean, if this doesn't happen,
we're missing it should carry richardson, Like.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
What are we doing this?
Speaker 4 (39:25):
Give this woman a film right now, like I need
her to star in it probably, but her personality, her story,
so eager for the redemption story. I love her personality.
I love her relationship with her grandmother, and I just
think she's she's like the pinnacle of like of talking
shit and backing it up.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Yeah, the main character energy for sure from huge Cherry
Huge Huge.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
It's a pretty good list that is a diverse, pretty
good list. Josh, what you got all right?
Speaker 5 (39:55):
I took it a different way. I'm more recentcy biased
from me. I have five from this some Olympics, and
I'm gonna start with sunny CHOI, the US breakdancing breaking star.
She quit her six figure job. I feel like this
is the only thing we know about her. Everyone knows
about her. She quit a six year job. She's thirty four,
and she's a breakdancer. But I'll tell you this, we
haven't had a step up movie in the franchise since
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twenty fourteen, and I want her as my I want
her to take the franchise over and just go with it.
So I have sunny CHOI starring in my break dancing movie.
Number two. I want to star Coco Yoshizawa, the fourteen
year old gold medal winning Japanese skateboarder. Just the coolest
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looking kid in the history of the world. Probably, I
don't know if you saw her. She's just like swagged
out and I would like to be her when I
grow down.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
No question, every one of those break breakers, skateboarders and
every X Game kid is cooler than I'll ever be
or have ever been, and I'm deeply bothered by that. Like,
I don't know how they got to be so cool,
but it makes me feel bad about myself when I
watch them do anything.
Speaker 5 (41:06):
Yeah, like I'm so angry at them. I've gone all
the way back around the world to the other side
and I'm not angry at them again. That's how unfair
it all is. But like she reminds me of the
kind of movie star. I mean, the Kevin McAllister is
sort of like the easy comp where she could like
defend a house against bad people. But there's this movie,
do you guys know, the movie Masterminds. It's from like
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the nineties with Patrick Stewart. It takes over a boarding
school and is going to hold these rich kids hostage.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
I've seen, yeah, I've seen the problem.
Speaker 5 (41:33):
Yeah, Pete Campbell from mad Men as a kid in
this movie, which is kind of fun. But anyway, they're
all like skateboarding and they're like stopping the bad guys
in this boarding school. And I just think that's like
that's her. Number three. Trinity Rodman also cool as hell,
could be a good guy, could be a bad guy.
Any role I would write a role for her. And
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then number four Shelley and Fraser Price. I'm gonna something
that's gonna make us all very angry. She's thirty seven
years old. This is her fifth Olympics. I believe she's
still planning on running the one, the two, and the
four by one for Jamaica. And to me, she fits
into the perfect trope of the one last job. This
is her last Olympics. She's you know, like I don't
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want her in like the Expendables, but like she could
easily be in like the next Fast and Furious movie.
She's definitely like a getting due old for this shit
kind of you know thing. That's not impression of Yeah,
for the record, not an impression of her, but just
just like a badass lady who's seen some shit and
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and is like, yeah, I'll do one more job to it,
and they rocket it's perfect, and then the last one.
I mean, I don't really need to say very much
about this, but Simone Biles, you know, I think even
like MICHAELA. Skinner would agree with me at this point
that you just have to have her. If you can
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have her, you have to have her around. She's gonna
get it done. She's she's cool, she's clutch. She Uh,
she's perfect, right national.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
Hero no I Mikayla Skidder, who, by the way, blocked Simone.
We're going to get into that in tomorrow show. All
of the Gymnastics Tea is coming.
Speaker 5 (43:19):
You can try, you can try to block some own bios, but.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
Can't you can't. Uh. Those are extremely good answers.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
We have a producer, Alex, of course has inside information.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
I'm guessing this is producer Alex who wrote this.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
Babe Diedrichson Zaharias was pretty racist.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
She's a villain's flawed character protagony.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
Your point that, like flat depiction, has left us all
heroicizing hero is that a word making her seem heroic and,
as it turns out, flawed in trouble, just like everybody else.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
All right, here's my answers.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
I went with all this year's Olympians just to keep it,
keep my pool tight. To choose from, I'm starting with
Shooter kim Yedji, as we pointed out, obsessed big Lydia
tar Energy. Also, I do love the little plushy elephant.
Apparently it's her daughters, but it reminds me of a
very like John Wick type storyline of like.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
Hundred, I don't want to put this energy in the universe.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
But in the movie version, the elephant belonged to someone
that she loved.
Speaker 5 (44:26):
It's also man on fire Man fire creasy bear, that
little bear.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
Yes when thousand percent that elephant is like the token
she carries with her to remind her of what she
needs to do. And as somebody pointed out, with those glasses,
she looks like she'd have to be a villain, but
she could also be a good guy with loose rules.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
Which I like.
Speaker 3 (44:47):
Veraotic good.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
Yes, chaotic good.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
I also had Sunny CHOI, but I actually wrote a
bit of a screenplay for her already, So this is
what I'm imaginings. She's thirty five years old, and then
we flash back to how she got to where she is.
She's a former gymnast, she burns out on the sport,
She goes to Wharton Studies business, becomes the director of
Global Creative Operations at s Day Lauder before leaving to
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pursue breaking full time. Wait, hold on a minute, that's
the actual story of Sunny Choice, Like what real actual
f like to people not know? The Global Creative Operations
director at s Day Lauder while breaking on the side,
and there's like, I guess it's to take this seriously
and go to the Olympics.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
Unbelievable. We need a movie Unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
Okay, Lee Kiefer, who has just defended her gold medal
in fencing. I don't know much about her except she's
dating another fencer, So like the idea of like both
sword play sort of like sexually but also literally if
you've got in a fight with each other. There's way
too many fencing items around the home that you could
go to. But also look at any single photo of
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her for her official Olympic portraits. She's got perfect liner,
she's got the bob, just like the Paris Games logo
slash Mary J.
Speaker 2 (46:06):
Blige.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
She looks like an assassin, like a French model, like
part time Runway, part time assassin kind of vibes we
need to.
Speaker 3 (46:18):
Very mister and missus Smith energy exactly what I was thinking.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
Yes, And then the last one is a Buddy kop
flick featuring Alona mar obviously our rugby queen with whom
we are obsessed, and Jordan Chiles, who can wink at
a camera in the middle of a fricking Olympic routine.
Can find the camera, wink and keep flipping. And the
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size difference, the strength difference.
Speaker 5 (46:47):
Just what do you think is the serious one? And
who do you think is the one just having fun?
Speaker 1 (46:50):
Jordan is serious and she's gonna beat that ass. And
Aloda constantly turns to the camera with like a quick aside.
Speaker 3 (46:59):
I'm sorry, where do I sign?
Speaker 6 (47:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (47:01):
Where do I sign?
Speaker 2 (47:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (47:05):
This has been the longest fight me and we're gonna
go way over. But I've loved having you both, and
I can't wait to see everybody else's lists for their movies.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
Thank you guys for coming on.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
We got to take it back to the text and
after that USA lost to Azerbaijan.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
That's exactly where we're all headed. God darn it all.
Thank you, Josh, thanks Kaleane.
Speaker 3 (47:24):
Thanks Sarah, Thanks y'all, Hang tight.
Speaker 2 (47:27):
We'll be right back with more good game with Sarah Spain.
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but it didn't. Of course it didn't, because on Tuesday,
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