July 17, 2024 • 25 mins
Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain! We’re so happy you’re here. In this inaugural episode, Sarah introduces herself, her producers Misha and Alex, and shares her vision for this first-of-its-kind women’s sports podcast. Plus, listen to a sneak peek of Sarah’s interview with Sue Bird.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, the daily women's
sports show you've always wanted. Even more than coach Cheryl
Reeve wants us all to stop asking about the Olympic
roster at links games.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
We're going to tell you all about us at a.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Few, but first we start every show by giving you
what you need to know today. The US women's national
soccer team played its final Olympic sendoff match last night
against Costa Rica in Washington, DC, and that's it for
tune ups. Next time they play, it's for keeps. The
opening ceremony of the Paris Olympics is just over one
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week away on Friday, July twenty six, but Olympic soccer
actually begins a few days before that, so the US
opens up its tournament on Thursday, July twenty fifth with
a Group B matchup against Zambia. Episode two of the
eight part Docuseriies in the Arena Serena Williams drops tonight
on ESPN Plus, and it details her struggle to keep
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up momentum after her first Grand Slam, and also her
sperience competing with older sister Venus when she was the
world number one. It has been really fun to watch
so far, and it also feels really good to be
in an era where female legends like Serena are getting
their flowers while they're still here. We're only two years
removed from her retirement and we already have this multipart
doc which is so great. Cameron Brink, former Stanford women's
(01:20):
basketball star and rookie with the WNBA's La Sparks, did
an amazing photo shoot and interview with Flaunt magazine. Now
you should be but if you're not yet familiar with
Cameron Brink, I think this tweet sort of sums her up.
Quote it's like the Cameron Diaz Factory decided to put
out at Kevin Durant.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Just check out the photo shoot and it'll make sense.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
This is just another example of the incredible versatility of
all these WNBA athletes, and especially this rookie class. They're
bringing so much flavor, so much personality, and really handling
the bright spotlight so well. And if you just remember
the early days of the w where players look like
they were exclusively allowed to shop at Ann Taylor, it
feels like things are just really different now. Of course,
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we wish we were watching Cameron on the court as well,
but she's currently out with an ACL tear, and that
injury also means she's no longer able to compete in
three x three at the upcoming Paras Olympics, which is
a super bummer. Speaking of three on three, we're continuing
to get details about the thirty players that are participating
in this new Unrivaled Basketball League. We're getting one new
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player named every day. And the league, if you haven't
heard about, is created by the New York Liberties Brianna
Stewart and the Minnesota Lynx is Nefisa Collier. It's going
to be a three on three format and tip off
in Miami in January of twenty twenty five. And the
cool thing about this is it's going to offer all
these WNBA players a chance to stay and play in
the US during the offseason. You could see all the
players that they've been out so far at www Dot
(02:43):
Unrivaled dot Basketball. We got two WNBA games tonight, and
that's before the Olympic break takes over. So Alicia Gray
in the Atlanta Dream hit the road to face the
Minnesota Links. Links are without their star and Olympia and
Nafisa Colliers. She's missed the last four games with Planner
fashion pain in her left foot dream are just outside
the playoff picture right now. Meanwhile, Minnesota's flirting with third
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place in the standings. Game tips off at one Eastern
on League Pass, So go ahead, take a long lunch
break and watch that. And we've also got Caitlin Clark
and the Indiana Fever heading down south to play Arique
Agunbowalle and the Dallas Wings.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
The Fever are in a.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Battle with the Chicago Sky for eighth seed, and that's
a last playoff spot come end of the regular season. Meanwhile,
the Wings are talented, but struggling and inconsistency has pushed
them down to last place in the league. The only
good news about that is producer Misha's mystics aren't last anymore.
But we'll talk some about that later. Game tips off
(03:38):
at seven thirty pm Eastern on ESPN. Also, of course,
WNBA All Star Game is this weekend, with the US
Olympic team taking on the All Stars. We'll get more
into that the next couple of days as we're getting
pumped and excited for Phoenix. Okay, okay, we've waited long enough.
Let's make this about US hi we're so excited you're here,
(03:59):
and we're so so pump to get the chance to
bring you awesome women's sports takes, debates, conversations five days
a week. As far as I know, there's never been
a daily women's sports podcast, and if you know of one,
definitely do not write in and tell me about it.
I don't want to know. I really want to consider
myself your first. Now, usually we'd dive into the day's
(04:20):
biggest stories or we'd have a guest on.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
But I feel like that would be a little forward, right.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
I mean, you don't even know me, and I certainly
can't introduce a whole other person already. I haven't even
bought you dinner, So I feel like maybe a little
for play, right, It's like, take a little moment to
get to know each other.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
I'm Sarah Spain.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
You might know me from seeing me on Around the
Horn on ESPN, perhaps intentionally, or maybe just at an
airport or a gym or in a restaurant, because that
show is everywhere and it's the one with the little
faces in the boxes. If you haven't seen it, maybe
you saw me on Sports Center Outside the Lines. E's
sixty highly questionable Dan Levittard show, my old podcast on ESPN.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
That's what she said, My.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Old radio shows Spain and Fifth it's Izzy in Spain,
Spain and Prim the trifecta.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Maybe we even listened to back when I started my
career in Chicago at ESPN one thousand or Mouthpiece Sports.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Maybe we even met at a bar in La in
my twenties.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
The point is, I have been at this for a while,
like twenty years, and that's included spending the last fourteen
covering both men's and women's sports for ESPN. And I'm
looking around as we start this show and thinking about
how I've really dreamed of the kind of women's sports
landscape that we have today. And I know that we
saw ways to go, but it is really awesome watching
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the rest of the world catch up to those of
us who knew the product was great and that the
audience would be there if we just gave it a chance.
And so between media coverage and merch and streaming services
so we can watch more games, social media accounts dedicated
solely to women's sports, all of that plus this massive
shift in societal expectations have really changed the game entirely,
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and perhaps that biggest change is society. Over the years,
I've watched the media and just America at large slowly
stop requiring that women leave their identities at the door
in order to be welcomed into sports.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
It was bad. It was really bad, y'all.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
I'm telling you, youngsters, you would not last an hour
in the asylum where they raised me when I tell
you that if you used to google best female athletes,
you only got lists of the hottest ones.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
That is not an exaggeration.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Top results every time, not the best athletes, but the
hottest female athletes. And the same with media hottest sportscaster
list or endless blogs about which women you want to
have sex with and also why women were ruining sports.
Now that's just my Twitter mentions, just kidding, sort of,
But for real, I've watched the landscape change, and they've
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stopped demanding the sort of homogenized idea of drinking beer,
eating a steak, and quoting bro movies as the only
acceptable identity for people who love sports. Society has started
to let women, athletes and fans and media be multi dimensional,
be queer, straight, virtuous, villainous, funny, serious, fashionable, sporty, feminine, masculine,
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and that was the secret sauce to all of it.
It was never about being one of the guys or
trying to copy men's sports. It was about being authentic
and genuine and just letting women's sports be their own thing.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
And that's what we want to do here on Good Game.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
We're going to talk about how sometimes things look a
little different in women's sports. Those where else but women's
sports moments? Where else but women's sports do we see
a player help launch a brand new professional hockey league,
lead her team to the first ever championship win in
that league, and then take a victory lap with her
ten month old son in her arms. That's Kendall Coin
Schofield and the PWHL. Where else but women's sports can
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we hear announcers calling to opponents embracing postmatch good sportsmanship
instead of the truth, which is they're dating and they
got to go back to the same house.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
One of them's a winner and one just took a
huge l. I can't wait to get into that.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
I can't wait to talk to some power couples about
those moments. Those are really cool only women's sports moments.
Players that are dating married exes who really can hate
each other.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
I want to talk about that.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
I also want to talk about embracing new superstars while
remembering that what's happening.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Now took decades and decades to build.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
I'm here because women before me were covering sports when
they weren't even allowed inside locker rooms. And the athletes
are here because for centuries women just wanted to play
without the pay and the fame and the celebrity and
the coverage and the sponsorships. And because of all those women,
today's athletes are getting these incredible opportunities. It's a little
segment we're gonna call Yes and because in a previous life,
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I wanted to be a comedian.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Actually I still do.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
So if Louren Michaels is listening, and I'm sure he is,
I will blow this podcast off to be on Saturday
at Live in a second, won't even think about it twice.
Very happy about this opportunity, though, so if Lauren is
not listening, my time at Second City and my time
in improv taught me these magical words, this way of
approaching life. Yes and and it's a secret to everything
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right now in women's sports, we need to be coming
from a place of yes, and both in the sense
of sort of yes, we're getting more investment and attention
than ever and we still want more, and in the
sense of yes, we've been here for decades doing this
and welcome aboard. We're so glad that you're here now too. Yes,
Caitlin Clark, and let me tell you about maya more. Yes,
(09:24):
Simone Biles and do you remember Dominique Dawes. So yeah,
we're gonna yes and some stuff in women's sports so
we can remember the greats who pave the way and
give context to what we're watching now. We're also going
to do some of the mythologizing that we always see
in men's sports but we don't do enough of in
women's sports. The Good Game Hall of Fame is going
to help us spread the word about great women's sports
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lore that should be common knowledge. Stories like if you
haven't heard this one, the traffic jam and the ninety
nine Ers women's soccer team. The players were stuck on
their bus complaining about all the traffic that they were
in as they were trying to get to their World
Cup opening game at Giant Stadium, only to find no
doubt that the traffic was for them, seventy eighty nine
hundred and seventy two fans en route to watch their game.
(10:07):
That's such a cool story. Faudy talks about it. Julie
Foudy of the ninety nine ers team, sitting on the bus.
What is all this traffic? We're going to be laid
to the game. Oh my god, it's for us. Now.
If we need to know about I don't know, Derek
Jeter's infamous gift bags and a Rod's alleged centaur painting,
then I think we should know about the ninety nine
US traffic jam, and I think we should know about
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so many other great moments in women's sports.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Lord too.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
It's hard in part because we know it can be
tough to find coverage of those moments of the games
and the events that you're watching. I know we're all
sort of trading jokes on social and dipping into group
chats to spill the tea about stuff, and scanning different
websites looking to find an update on a roster drop
or an injury. Well, we want to be all that
good stuff. We want to be all that good stuff
plus unbelievable stats and facts, infuriating what the facts and
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takes on all the latest news and events, all the
things you're trying to cobble together for social media and friends,
and all these once a week podcasts all in one place,
and we want to hear from you, our listeners, our
good gamers, our gg our Spain.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
I don't know what we're gonna call you guys. We
need a name. We need a name for the We
need a name for our listeners. What do you want
to be called?
Speaker 1 (11:21):
You're gonna be with us here every day, right, five
days a week. Right, You're gonna be here, so uh,
you deserve a quality name. So email or call us
tell us what you want to be called. Eight seven
two two oh four fifty seventy is the number to
call us. Eight seven two two oh four fifty seventy.
Or you can email us good Game at wondermedianetwork dot com,
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or you can always hit me up. I'm at Sarah
Spain on Twitter or x or whatever we're calling it
these days, and I'm Spain two three two three on Instagram.
You can also hit up my amazing producers who are
going to be joining me every day with their insight,
their experiences, their knowledge. They're very important fact checking. Alex
Azzi and Misha aka MJ Jones. And by the way,
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for those of you that know me well, I did
not only hire Mish because their name is MJ. But
it didn't hurt my obsessim with Michael Jordan knows no bounds.
And if you're gonna be named MJ, you it just
like bumps up your resume. Just a couple of dotches. Okay,
I've talked enough about you. Now talk about yourselves, MJ.
Tell everyone everything they need to know about you, your
entire life story.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
You have thirty seconds or less.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Woof well first and foremost, just happy to be here. No,
I am a former d one hooper. That's why I
claim to fame. Played for about sixteen years now. I
want to play pickup. I just kind of run corner
at the corner and shoot threes and try to stay
out of the way.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Not about defense, any defense, Oh never.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
I didn't play defense when I was a college athlete. No,
absolutely not. Yeah, not a defensive stalwart, but yeah, I
grew up with the WNBA. I grew up watching athletes
like Serena in Abby Womba and Alison Felix in their prime.
So I feel so lucky now to be working in
a job where that's my priority. Women's sports is my priority,
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because I just feel like, you know, this space opens
up the conversation to so many fun, entertaining, educational and
important stuff.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
That we all need to be talking about. So just
happy to be here, Happy to be working with.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Sarah and Alex, and can't wait, can't wait, keep doing
this thing.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Love it Okay, Alex. Everything that everyone needs to know
about you thirty seconds least.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Oh man, Well, I am also extremely excited to be here.
Also a college athlete, though I would say that maybe
doesn't impact my identity as much as it does for
other college athletes. I played field hockey at Wellesley, which
was a women's college, and honestly, the part of it
that impacted me the most, though, was going to a
women's college where we didn't have to share resources with
a football team. We didn't have to share resources with
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men's basketball teams.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Wellesley, the Lady Anything, the Lady stick holders. What's the
Wellesley mascot? The blue? The blue? What you ask? We
don't know. Cornell's big Red. I'm like, big Red.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
What?
Speaker 2 (14:04):
And then we just have a bear, which no one explains.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
But yeah, that experience impacted my perspective to be able
to say, what would the world look like if women's
sports were the priority? And I interned at my first
Olympics in twenty twelve because I was a huge Olympics
nerd still am, and I remember on day one of
that I was like, how do you make this your
full time thing? And in retrospect, I think I loved
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working on the Olympics and wanted to work on the
Olympics because it was the only way in the year
twenty twelve that you could get paid to cover women's sports,
maybe not exclusively, but certainly more than most sports industry
jobs at that time. And I'm still around ten years later.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
And still an Olympics expert. I'm so excited that this
show is starting with the Olympics about to start, because
Alex is going to shine with every little detail and
fact and I'm sure great stories about interviews and re
search and trips and everything you've done around the Olympics
in the past. So pumped for everything that y'all are
going to bring to the table and the conversation and
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just so excited to get started.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
And yeah, that's us, just a.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Couple of folks standing in front of a podcast Mike
asking you to love them. We're good game with Sarah Spain.
Thanks for joining us. After the break, the Bird's the word,
Sue Bird. We're back and we have an extra special
guest that's going to join us on Friday.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
But we wanted to give you a little bit of.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
A tease because she's so special and technically I believe
a little bit my boss in this new endeavor, so
we want to make sure she feels very appreciated. It's
the legendary Sue Bird. So a couple things we talked
about that I want to just give you a little
tease of one.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
I'm so pumped about.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
I somehow miss this, despite pretty much stalking Sue and
all of her social media and all of her announcements,
I had not heard about this new show that she
and her fiancee, Meghan Rapino, and their production company are
putting together. And when she dropped this news during our interview, well,
I mean you could basically hear me squealing.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Here it is.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
We recently announced we're going to do like a reality
show around the dating lives of of women's athletes.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
No way, where did you announce it? How do miss this?
Speaker 5 (16:24):
It's like a touch more, which is me and Megan's
production company in partnership with Together, but also partnership with
Bunna Murray. Does I mean they're like the wizards of this?
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Oh my wait wait wait wait wait more details details.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
Basically yeah, I mean we're going to follow you know,
any female athlete that wants to be a part of it.
We're going to follow their dating lives. So whether it's
people who are in relationships mary, partner, husband, white, doesn't matter,
all the above, everything in between, single dating, you know, singing,
mingled and just like, yeah, we don't want it to
be it's not gonna it's not gonna start out as
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some salacious thing.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
So it's going to turn into Fantasy Island.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
It's going to turn Remember you remember that show, wasn't
it Fantasy Island?
Speaker 2 (17:08):
America can't stop talking about Temptation Island.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
I never watched it.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
I never literally watched it with my dad. I don't know.
Weird that was when we were growing up. It was
like they sent couples to a place.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
And they were like, either this will bring you closer together,
or you'll all start having sex with each other instead,
Like I feel.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Like that's like that. I feel like that could be
this show. It's like, hey, we have a bunch of them.
I might have teammates. You might have teammates dating.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
You might have you know, like inter league dating.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Yeah, different sports, you name it.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
I also really enjoyed talking to Sue about the current
state of the WNBA and just how close she was
to being one of the beneficiaries of all of the
hard work she put in in her twenty years in
the league, and whether there was like a little bit
of a mixed vibe about just how much the league
has blown up this year. You really like made the
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WNBA what it is today. You and many many others
are such a huge part of why these current athletes
are getting unprecedented levels of coverage and endorsements and support
and love. What percentage of you, be honest, is proud
and happy for them, and what percentage of you is
jealous that you retired right before all of this.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
I'm in a pretty good place about it. I'll say,
like I'll say, like I was gonna say ninety ten,
then I was gonna say eighty twenty, So we'll go
eighty five. Just the difference eighty five to fifteen. I mean,
of course there's a part of me that wishes I
could play, but simultaneously, I don't wish I could play
at forties three, Like if I was twenty three, Uh,
forget it. I would love to be able to go
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back in time and be a twenty three year old
right now. Absolutely. I actually said that recently to someone
who was like, I was like, dang, I was born
too soon, and They're like, yeah, but you could have
been born earlier and it would be even worse. And
I was like, okay, good point. Yeah, So yeah, of
course I think someone will be lying if they said
they wouldn't want to go back like any WNBA player
who is now retired and play right now. It's everything
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we always thought or always wanted.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
We always knew that.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
The one thing I know, I always said throughout my career.
It's like at times we will be like what needs
to change in marketing and in business and in this
and then that, and I'm like, yeah, I don't know,
but what I do know is the product on the
floor like that has sustained like that has not just
sustained that has gotten better. We've done our part.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
You can hear the full interview with the legendary Sue
Bird on Friday's episode, so make sure to come back.
But while we're talking WNBA here and this new look
extra popular, more broadcasts, more eyeballs, more sponsors than ever,
I feel like some ticket holders are starting to feel
the pain of the league's increase popularity in the worst
possible way, which is their pocketbook, their ticket prices. And Misha,
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I wanted to talk to about this. I know you're
a huge WNBA fan, and I'm sort of torn, as
I often am with things like this, where when you
hear about teams and folks complaining about so far, the
Sky and the Mercury sending out messages about increasing season
ticket prices for next year. When you hear about this,
you understand people being upset and being like, I used
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to bring my whole family it was affordable. I've been
here forever supporting the team, and now they're gonna jack
up the prices. And then you also are like, oh, yay,
the WNBA is making more money and they're able to
support the players and pay better salaries that take jets
to the games instead of commercial, Like, what's your initial reaction.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
My initial reaction is it's a necessary evil, right, it's
you know, I'm coming into this from a situation where
my parents were taking me to WNBA games when I
was two feet long for you know, five cents in
a smile from a little baby.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Like it was that we need a check mark for
every time me she reminds us of how young she is,
because you know what, there's gonna be a noise.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
It's gonna be like a baby like. I don't know
what that was.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
That's sound of more like a goat, but you need
like a baby noise for every time Mesh reminds all
of us that she's the youngest one here.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
She was in diapers when the WIBA started. Yeah, okay,
carry out.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
We're gonna get a little button that I can press
every time I come on like that go. You know,
initial reaction, it's a necessary evil. I hate that it's
probably going to price people out of certain seats. The
hope is that they can figure out a way to
make sure that the gen and Mission big sections that
most folks who are bringing families those can remain a
little bit more affordable. But then those folks who want
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to sit courtside and flash all the Gucci and Prada
and all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Young can pay a few extra dollars.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Yeah, I mean, I always feel bad for the diehards
that get priced out, but I think this bothers me
a lot more when it's a men's league that's been
around forever and they're really just taking advantage of fans
and doing it repeatedly year after year in ways that
don't feel like necessitated by the market or any other reason.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
In this case, it feels sort of necessary. But it's
a bummer. It's a bummer for a lot of folks.
But like you said, you got to get that money.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
And like I think, if you ask those diehard fans
if they wanted the players that they love to get
paid more, and they wanted better marketing and you know,
uniforms and merch and all the things that cost money
behind the scenes, they would say yes. And unfortunately it's
our money that's paying for it. We'll get into more
conversations about that as we get more information from the
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different teams that are potentially thinking about up in those prices.
But we come back we have to probe into the deepest,
darkest corners of your soul.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
We're just like you know, ask you a question, You're
still here and so are we. Oh my god, I
love that for you and for us.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
We've had such a good time talking at you today,
but we do want to hear back from you, because
otherwise we're definitely going to think you're just not that
into us. So in honor of the next episode of
the Serena doc hitting Tonight, I want you to tell
us the female athlete that you most would like to
see a documentary about. Hit us up on our email
good Game at Wondermedia network dot com or on social
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at Sarah Spain on Twitter. I will post this question
and tell us who you want to see a doc about.
We want to hear your answers. Maybe we can convince
some folks to make them. We also always want to
hear your guest and topic suggestions, your questions, whatever else
is on your mind, So you can leave us a
voice message that we might play on the show at
eight seven two two oh four fifty seventy or again
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email us good Game at wondermediaetwork dot com. Just a reminder,
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Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, the daily women's
sports show you've always wanted. Even more than coach Cheryl
Reeve wants us all to stop asking about the Olympic
roster at links games.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
We're going to tell you all about us at a.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Few, but first we start every show by giving you
what you need to know today. The US women's national
soccer team played its final Olympic sendoff match last night
against Costa Rica in Washington, DC, and that's it for
tune ups. Next time they play, it's for keeps. The
opening ceremony of the Paris Olympics is just over one
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week away on Friday, July twenty six, but Olympic soccer
actually begins a few days before that, so the US
opens up its tournament on Thursday, July twenty fifth with
a Group B matchup against Zambia. Episode two of the
eight part Docuseriies in the Arena Serena Williams drops tonight
on ESPN Plus, and it details her struggle to keep
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up momentum after her first Grand Slam, and also her
sperience competing with older sister Venus when she was the
world number one. It has been really fun to watch
so far, and it also feels really good to be
in an era where female legends like Serena are getting
their flowers while they're still here. We're only two years
removed from her retirement and we already have this multipart
doc which is so great. Cameron Brink, former Stanford women's
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basketball star and rookie with the WNBA's La Sparks, did
an amazing photo shoot and interview with Flaunt magazine. Now
you should be but if you're not yet familiar with
Cameron Brink, I think this tweet sort of sums her up.
Quote it's like the Cameron Diaz Factory decided to put
out at Kevin Durant.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Just check out the photo shoot and it'll make sense.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
This is just another example of the incredible versatility of
all these WNBA athletes, and especially this rookie class. They're
bringing so much flavor, so much personality, and really handling
the bright spotlight so well. And if you just remember
the early days of the w where players look like
they were exclusively allowed to shop at Ann Taylor, it
feels like things are just really different now. Of course,
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we wish we were watching Cameron on the court as well,
but she's currently out with an ACL tear, and that
injury also means she's no longer able to compete in
three x three at the upcoming Paras Olympics, which is
a super bummer. Speaking of three on three, we're continuing
to get details about the thirty players that are participating
in this new Unrivaled Basketball League. We're getting one new
(02:21):
player named every day. And the league, if you haven't
heard about, is created by the New York Liberties Brianna
Stewart and the Minnesota Lynx is Nefisa Collier. It's going
to be a three on three format and tip off
in Miami in January of twenty twenty five. And the
cool thing about this is it's going to offer all
these WNBA players a chance to stay and play in
the US during the offseason. You could see all the
players that they've been out so far at www Dot
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Unrivaled dot Basketball. We got two WNBA games tonight, and
that's before the Olympic break takes over. So Alicia Gray
in the Atlanta Dream hit the road to face the
Minnesota Links. Links are without their star and Olympia and
Nafisa Colliers. She's missed the last four games with Planner
fashion pain in her left foot dream are just outside
the playoff picture right now. Meanwhile, Minnesota's flirting with third
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place in the standings. Game tips off at one Eastern
on League Pass, So go ahead, take a long lunch
break and watch that. And we've also got Caitlin Clark
and the Indiana Fever heading down south to play Arique
Agunbowalle and the Dallas Wings.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
The Fever are in a.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Battle with the Chicago Sky for eighth seed, and that's
a last playoff spot come end of the regular season. Meanwhile,
the Wings are talented, but struggling and inconsistency has pushed
them down to last place in the league. The only
good news about that is producer Misha's mystics aren't last anymore.
But we'll talk some about that later. Game tips off
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at seven thirty pm Eastern on ESPN. Also, of course,
WNBA All Star Game is this weekend, with the US
Olympic team taking on the All Stars. We'll get more
into that the next couple of days as we're getting
pumped and excited for Phoenix. Okay, okay, we've waited long enough.
Let's make this about US hi we're so excited you're here,
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and we're so so pump to get the chance to
bring you awesome women's sports takes, debates, conversations five days
a week. As far as I know, there's never been
a daily women's sports podcast, and if you know of one,
definitely do not write in and tell me about it.
I don't want to know. I really want to consider
myself your first. Now, usually we'd dive into the day's
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biggest stories or we'd have a guest on.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
But I feel like that would be a little forward, right.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
I mean, you don't even know me, and I certainly
can't introduce a whole other person already. I haven't even
bought you dinner, So I feel like maybe a little
for play, right, It's like, take a little moment to
get to know each other.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
I'm Sarah Spain.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
You might know me from seeing me on Around the
Horn on ESPN, perhaps intentionally, or maybe just at an
airport or a gym or in a restaurant, because that
show is everywhere and it's the one with the little
faces in the boxes. If you haven't seen it, maybe
you saw me on Sports Center Outside the Lines. E's
sixty highly questionable Dan Levittard show, my old podcast on ESPN.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
That's what she said, My.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Old radio shows Spain and Fifth it's Izzy in Spain,
Spain and Prim the trifecta.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Maybe we even listened to back when I started my
career in Chicago at ESPN one thousand or Mouthpiece Sports.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Maybe we even met at a bar in La in
my twenties.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
The point is, I have been at this for a while,
like twenty years, and that's included spending the last fourteen
covering both men's and women's sports for ESPN. And I'm
looking around as we start this show and thinking about
how I've really dreamed of the kind of women's sports
landscape that we have today. And I know that we
saw ways to go, but it is really awesome watching
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the rest of the world catch up to those of
us who knew the product was great and that the
audience would be there if we just gave it a chance.
And so between media coverage and merch and streaming services
so we can watch more games, social media accounts dedicated
solely to women's sports, all of that plus this massive
shift in societal expectations have really changed the game entirely,
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and perhaps that biggest change is society. Over the years,
I've watched the media and just America at large slowly
stop requiring that women leave their identities at the door
in order to be welcomed into sports.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
It was bad. It was really bad, y'all.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
I'm telling you, youngsters, you would not last an hour
in the asylum where they raised me when I tell
you that if you used to google best female athletes,
you only got lists of the hottest ones.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
That is not an exaggeration.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Top results every time, not the best athletes, but the
hottest female athletes. And the same with media hottest sportscaster
list or endless blogs about which women you want to
have sex with and also why women were ruining sports.
Now that's just my Twitter mentions, just kidding, sort of,
But for real, I've watched the landscape change, and they've
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stopped demanding the sort of homogenized idea of drinking beer,
eating a steak, and quoting bro movies as the only
acceptable identity for people who love sports. Society has started
to let women, athletes and fans and media be multi dimensional,
be queer, straight, virtuous, villainous, funny, serious, fashionable, sporty, feminine, masculine,
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and that was the secret sauce to all of it.
It was never about being one of the guys or
trying to copy men's sports. It was about being authentic
and genuine and just letting women's sports be their own thing.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
And that's what we want to do here on Good Game.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
We're going to talk about how sometimes things look a
little different in women's sports. Those where else but women's
sports moments? Where else but women's sports do we see
a player help launch a brand new professional hockey league,
lead her team to the first ever championship win in
that league, and then take a victory lap with her
ten month old son in her arms. That's Kendall Coin
Schofield and the PWHL. Where else but women's sports can
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we hear announcers calling to opponents embracing postmatch good sportsmanship
instead of the truth, which is they're dating and they
got to go back to the same house.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
One of them's a winner and one just took a
huge l. I can't wait to get into that.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
I can't wait to talk to some power couples about
those moments. Those are really cool only women's sports moments.
Players that are dating married exes who really can hate
each other.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
I want to talk about that.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
I also want to talk about embracing new superstars while
remembering that what's happening.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Now took decades and decades to build.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
I'm here because women before me were covering sports when
they weren't even allowed inside locker rooms. And the athletes
are here because for centuries women just wanted to play
without the pay and the fame and the celebrity and
the coverage and the sponsorships. And because of all those women,
today's athletes are getting these incredible opportunities. It's a little
segment we're gonna call Yes and because in a previous life,
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I wanted to be a comedian.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Actually I still do.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
So if Louren Michaels is listening, and I'm sure he is,
I will blow this podcast off to be on Saturday
at Live in a second, won't even think about it twice.
Very happy about this opportunity, though, so if Lauren is
not listening, my time at Second City and my time
in improv taught me these magical words, this way of
approaching life. Yes and and it's a secret to everything
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right now in women's sports, we need to be coming
from a place of yes, and both in the sense
of sort of yes, we're getting more investment and attention
than ever and we still want more, and in the
sense of yes, we've been here for decades doing this
and welcome aboard. We're so glad that you're here now too. Yes,
Caitlin Clark, and let me tell you about maya more. Yes,
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Simone Biles and do you remember Dominique Dawes. So yeah,
we're gonna yes and some stuff in women's sports so
we can remember the greats who pave the way and
give context to what we're watching now. We're also going
to do some of the mythologizing that we always see
in men's sports but we don't do enough of in
women's sports. The Good Game Hall of Fame is going
to help us spread the word about great women's sports
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lore that should be common knowledge. Stories like if you
haven't heard this one, the traffic jam and the ninety
nine Ers women's soccer team. The players were stuck on
their bus complaining about all the traffic that they were
in as they were trying to get to their World
Cup opening game at Giant Stadium, only to find no
doubt that the traffic was for them, seventy eighty nine
hundred and seventy two fans en route to watch their game.
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That's such a cool story. Faudy talks about it. Julie
Foudy of the ninety nine ers team, sitting on the bus.
What is all this traffic? We're going to be laid
to the game. Oh my god, it's for us. Now.
If we need to know about I don't know, Derek
Jeter's infamous gift bags and a Rod's alleged centaur painting,
then I think we should know about the ninety nine
US traffic jam, and I think we should know about
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so many other great moments in women's sports.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Lord too.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
It's hard in part because we know it can be
tough to find coverage of those moments of the games
and the events that you're watching. I know we're all
sort of trading jokes on social and dipping into group
chats to spill the tea about stuff, and scanning different
websites looking to find an update on a roster drop
or an injury. Well, we want to be all that
good stuff. We want to be all that good stuff
plus unbelievable stats and facts, infuriating what the facts and
(10:56):
takes on all the latest news and events, all the
things you're trying to cobble together for social media and friends,
and all these once a week podcasts all in one place,
and we want to hear from you, our listeners, our
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Speaker 2 (11:15):
I don't know what we're gonna call you guys. We
need a name. We need a name for the We
need a name for our listeners. What do you want
to be called?
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You're gonna be with us here every day, right, five
days a week. Right, You're gonna be here, so uh,
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You can also hit up my amazing producers who are
going to be joining me every day with their insight,
their experiences, their knowledge. They're very important fact checking. Alex
Azzi and Misha aka MJ Jones. And by the way,
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for those of you that know me well, I did
not only hire Mish because their name is MJ. But
it didn't hurt my obsessim with Michael Jordan knows no bounds.
And if you're gonna be named MJ, you it just
like bumps up your resume. Just a couple of dotches. Okay,
I've talked enough about you. Now talk about yourselves, MJ.
Tell everyone everything they need to know about you, your
entire life story.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
You have thirty seconds or less.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Woof well first and foremost, just happy to be here. No,
I am a former d one hooper. That's why I
claim to fame. Played for about sixteen years now. I
want to play pickup. I just kind of run corner
at the corner and shoot threes and try to stay
out of the way.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Not about defense, any defense, Oh never.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
I didn't play defense when I was a college athlete. No,
absolutely not. Yeah, not a defensive stalwart, but yeah, I
grew up with the WNBA. I grew up watching athletes
like Serena in Abby Womba and Alison Felix in their prime.
So I feel so lucky now to be working in
a job where that's my priority. Women's sports is my priority,
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because I just feel like, you know, this space opens
up the conversation to so many fun, entertaining, educational and
important stuff.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
That we all need to be talking about. So just
happy to be here, Happy to be working with.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Sarah and Alex, and can't wait, can't wait, keep doing
this thing.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Love it Okay, Alex. Everything that everyone needs to know
about you thirty seconds least.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Oh man, Well, I am also extremely excited to be here.
Also a college athlete, though I would say that maybe
doesn't impact my identity as much as it does for
other college athletes. I played field hockey at Wellesley, which
was a women's college, and honestly, the part of it
that impacted me the most, though, was going to a
women's college where we didn't have to share resources with
a football team. We didn't have to share resources with
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men's basketball teams.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Wellesley, the Lady Anything, the Lady stick holders. What's the
Wellesley mascot? The blue? The blue? What you ask? We
don't know. Cornell's big Red. I'm like, big Red.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
What?
Speaker 2 (14:04):
And then we just have a bear, which no one explains.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
But yeah, that experience impacted my perspective to be able
to say, what would the world look like if women's
sports were the priority? And I interned at my first
Olympics in twenty twelve because I was a huge Olympics
nerd still am, and I remember on day one of
that I was like, how do you make this your
full time thing? And in retrospect, I think I loved
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working on the Olympics and wanted to work on the
Olympics because it was the only way in the year
twenty twelve that you could get paid to cover women's sports,
maybe not exclusively, but certainly more than most sports industry
jobs at that time. And I'm still around ten years later.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
And still an Olympics expert. I'm so excited that this
show is starting with the Olympics about to start, because
Alex is going to shine with every little detail and
fact and I'm sure great stories about interviews and re
search and trips and everything you've done around the Olympics
in the past. So pumped for everything that y'all are
going to bring to the table and the conversation and
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just so excited to get started.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
And yeah, that's us, just a.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Couple of folks standing in front of a podcast Mike
asking you to love them. We're good game with Sarah Spain.
Thanks for joining us. After the break, the Bird's the word,
Sue Bird. We're back and we have an extra special
guest that's going to join us on Friday.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
But we wanted to give you a little bit of.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
A tease because she's so special and technically I believe
a little bit my boss in this new endeavor, so
we want to make sure she feels very appreciated. It's
the legendary Sue Bird. So a couple things we talked
about that I want to just give you a little
tease of one.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
I'm so pumped about.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
I somehow miss this, despite pretty much stalking Sue and
all of her social media and all of her announcements,
I had not heard about this new show that she
and her fiancee, Meghan Rapino, and their production company are
putting together. And when she dropped this news during our interview, well,
I mean you could basically hear me squealing.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Here it is.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
We recently announced we're going to do like a reality
show around the dating lives of of women's athletes.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
No way, where did you announce it? How do miss this?
Speaker 5 (16:24):
It's like a touch more, which is me and Megan's
production company in partnership with Together, but also partnership with
Bunna Murray. Does I mean they're like the wizards of this?
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Oh my wait wait wait wait wait more details details.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
Basically yeah, I mean we're going to follow you know,
any female athlete that wants to be a part of it.
We're going to follow their dating lives. So whether it's
people who are in relationships mary, partner, husband, white, doesn't matter,
all the above, everything in between, single dating, you know, singing,
mingled and just like, yeah, we don't want it to
be it's not gonna it's not gonna start out as
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some salacious thing.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
So it's going to turn into Fantasy Island.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
It's going to turn Remember you remember that show, wasn't
it Fantasy Island?
Speaker 2 (17:08):
America can't stop talking about Temptation Island.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
I never watched it.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
I never literally watched it with my dad. I don't know.
Weird that was when we were growing up. It was
like they sent couples to a place.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
And they were like, either this will bring you closer together,
or you'll all start having sex with each other instead,
Like I feel.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Like that's like that. I feel like that could be
this show. It's like, hey, we have a bunch of them.
I might have teammates. You might have teammates dating.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
You might have you know, like inter league dating.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Yeah, different sports, you name it.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
I also really enjoyed talking to Sue about the current
state of the WNBA and just how close she was
to being one of the beneficiaries of all of the
hard work she put in in her twenty years in
the league, and whether there was like a little bit
of a mixed vibe about just how much the league
has blown up this year. You really like made the
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WNBA what it is today. You and many many others
are such a huge part of why these current athletes
are getting unprecedented levels of coverage and endorsements and support
and love. What percentage of you, be honest, is proud
and happy for them, and what percentage of you is
jealous that you retired right before all of this.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
I'm in a pretty good place about it. I'll say,
like I'll say, like I was gonna say ninety ten,
then I was gonna say eighty twenty, So we'll go
eighty five. Just the difference eighty five to fifteen. I mean,
of course there's a part of me that wishes I
could play, but simultaneously, I don't wish I could play
at forties three, Like if I was twenty three, Uh,
forget it. I would love to be able to go
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back in time and be a twenty three year old
right now. Absolutely. I actually said that recently to someone
who was like, I was like, dang, I was born
too soon, and They're like, yeah, but you could have
been born earlier and it would be even worse. And
I was like, okay, good point. Yeah, So yeah, of
course I think someone will be lying if they said
they wouldn't want to go back like any WNBA player
who is now retired and play right now. It's everything
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we always thought or always wanted.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
We always knew that.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
The one thing I know, I always said throughout my career.
It's like at times we will be like what needs
to change in marketing and in business and in this
and then that, and I'm like, yeah, I don't know,
but what I do know is the product on the
floor like that has sustained like that has not just
sustained that has gotten better. We've done our part.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
You can hear the full interview with the legendary Sue
Bird on Friday's episode, so make sure to come back.
But while we're talking WNBA here and this new look
extra popular, more broadcasts, more eyeballs, more sponsors than ever,
I feel like some ticket holders are starting to feel
the pain of the league's increase popularity in the worst
possible way, which is their pocketbook, their ticket prices. And Misha,
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I wanted to talk to about this. I know you're
a huge WNBA fan, and I'm sort of torn, as
I often am with things like this, where when you
hear about teams and folks complaining about so far, the
Sky and the Mercury sending out messages about increasing season
ticket prices for next year. When you hear about this,
you understand people being upset and being like, I used
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to bring my whole family it was affordable. I've been
here forever supporting the team, and now they're gonna jack
up the prices. And then you also are like, oh, yay,
the WNBA is making more money and they're able to
support the players and pay better salaries that take jets
to the games instead of commercial, Like, what's your initial reaction.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
My initial reaction is it's a necessary evil, right, it's
you know, I'm coming into this from a situation where
my parents were taking me to WNBA games when I
was two feet long for you know, five cents in
a smile from a little baby.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Like it was that we need a check mark for
every time me she reminds us of how young she is,
because you know what, there's gonna be a noise.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
It's gonna be like a baby like. I don't know
what that was.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
That's sound of more like a goat, but you need
like a baby noise for every time Mesh reminds all
of us that she's the youngest one here.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
She was in diapers when the WIBA started. Yeah, okay,
carry out.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
We're gonna get a little button that I can press
every time I come on like that go. You know,
initial reaction, it's a necessary evil. I hate that it's
probably going to price people out of certain seats. The
hope is that they can figure out a way to
make sure that the gen and Mission big sections that
most folks who are bringing families those can remain a
little bit more affordable. But then those folks who want
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to sit courtside and flash all the Gucci and Prada
and all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Young can pay a few extra dollars.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Yeah, I mean, I always feel bad for the diehards
that get priced out, but I think this bothers me
a lot more when it's a men's league that's been
around forever and they're really just taking advantage of fans
and doing it repeatedly year after year in ways that
don't feel like necessitated by the market or any other reason.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
In this case, it feels sort of necessary. But it's
a bummer. It's a bummer for a lot of folks.
But like you said, you got to get that money.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
And like I think, if you ask those diehard fans
if they wanted the players that they love to get
paid more, and they wanted better marketing and you know,
uniforms and merch and all the things that cost money
behind the scenes, they would say yes. And unfortunately it's
our money that's paying for it. We'll get into more
conversations about that as we get more information from the
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