August 13, 2025 • 53 mins
Sometime Brunch with your friends just ISN'T enough time.
This week on Good Moms, chat about the magic of adult sleepovers and why untimed, leisurely hangouts with friends are just as essential in adulthood as they were when we were kids.
What you can expect to hear:
(02:13) Empowering your kids set up their own playdates: “Go get her number on a piece of paper.”
(06:24) Camping stories & adult friend sleepovers
(14:35) Erica’s short-term roommate experiment
(24:00) High school reunions
(30:25) PSA for white women dating Black men
(48:00) Whorie
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Once upon a time there was a good old traditional housewife.
She couldn't She cleaned, cared for her children and the
man of the house, and of course she didn't talk back.
She was both obedient and soft by nature. She was
a good woman who always made good choices.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
That we're good Mom's bad choices. Who's single mom who
said fuck the patriarchy, shared all their bad choices and
sound out they were so bad. After all, we're expert
overshares and your new besties.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Sit back and enjoy the ride.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
I can do it.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
That.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Welcome back to Good Mom's Bad Choices.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I'm Erica and I'm Mela, and it's Wednesday. It is
welcome back to the Good Mom Show. How are you feeling?
I'm good.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
We're doing this episode from home today, which is very rare.
We decided to honor our energy and keep it in
the crib, so I feel good. I put makeup on,
and shit, I got lipliner overdrawn on my lips and
stuff like I'm going somewhere. But if you saw what
I was wearing under below this shirt, I'm still in
(01:08):
my pajamas, not below the shirt. But I do have
my I do have our merch on which I do too.
Oh look, see if we' even mean to do this.
I think that one's sold out, but this one is not.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
I wear our merch a lot, and you should too.
You should check out our merchant goot Mom's Bad Choices
dot com. We make a lot of cute shit, a
lot of can of mom shit, a lot of bold statements,
a lot of things that you want to say, but
sometimes you don't say it. This one says goddess spiritual sorority,
because where a god is spiritual sorority?
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Black as fuck, mom as fuck, fine as fuck?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Yep, do you wear that one?
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Me?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Do you wear that one? When you pick up Iri
from school?
Speaker 3 (01:55):
I wear all of our I think I talked to
you about this on the few episodes ago. I don't
not wear our merch. I don't spare my child's feelings
when it comes to my merch because I created this.
This is my shit, and I want and I know
when other moms, and it happens every time I wear
it and I go to the school, they're like, oh
my God, where suld I'm like, I need it. So
(02:17):
I think that we should normalize wearing statement pieces.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Just schools to school pick up.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
These parents know who we are and don't add me
to the group text bitch. Maybe I'll prevent her about
unless you're with the shits.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Maybe I'll present them from asking for sleepovers and play dates.
That's fine, I hate and Lona's like, can you get
some and seose mom's numbers if you have a play date?
Speaker 3 (02:39):
And no, at this point, I know I don't. I
don't do that anymore, and say, if you want me
to have the you get her mom's number. I'm not
going to go search the databases of the onlines of
the log into the school portal that I can't remember
to try and find this bitch's phone number and also
text her randomly like hey, this is ives.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
I've done that, and I will.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
But also like, I think our kids are old enough
to be like, hey, what's your phone number?
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Write it on a piece of paper and get yeah,
literal will bring home the paper. I'm like, Okay, I'll
do what I gotta do. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
But honestly, this summer, like Iri hasn't really been like
hanging out so much with her friends from school. This
is the first summer that I haven't put her in
camp at her school, and it was by design because
I really wanted her to like branch out and like
have other experiences, go to the sleep away camp that
we had sent our kids to, and also like I
wanted to have more flexibility, And I think that she's
(03:39):
actually enjoyed it more like she's still fucking sleeping right now.
First of all, if she was in camp, she would
be on her tenth activity, which is great too, But
I just feel like I just needed this summer to
like not feel like I had to adhere to a
strict pickup, drop off schedule, even though those hours away
do help, but I think it's also helped me slow
(04:00):
down to like in parenting and like having to like
figure things out with her, be more present with her,
and like I'm really focused on just like deepening our relationship,
and I felt like summer camp was actually like hindering
that because she was gone most of the day. It
was like she was in school, and so like she
spends all year away from me in school, so me
(04:21):
not putting her in camp this summer, I feel like
it has been a really good thing for our relationship.
I've seen how our relationship has like deepened and there's
more trust and she's sharing more, and I think a
lot of the worry that I had is starting to
dissipate because I felt like, oh my god, she.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Doesn't talk to me. What am I doing?
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Like I felt like I'm doing everything my mom didn't
do on purpose because I didn't want to talk to
her about shit. And here I am, like, you can
tell me anything, nothing will get you in trouble, and
she's like not saying shit. So I think it was
just like a matter of just spending more time together.
So I actually advocate for not sending your kid to
(04:59):
some camp all fucking summer. I know parents are like.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
But I need the break.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
I mean, and you have if you have multiple kids,
like I get it, Like I only got one, and
she's like self sufficient and mature.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
I'm lucky, So yeah, I the summer break is for
me too, Like I'm not waking up at eight am
to take you to camp. In fact, when she did
do school camp with Irate, it was actually in my
benefit because her grandmother lives closer to the school, so
in a lot of times we'd be not here, so
(05:32):
I that was my like, here, she's going to camp
from your house. But yeah, I don't know if this
is acceptable to say, but I fucking despise waking up
in the morning and making lunch and picking up like
pick up school drop off, some pickups. I would really
like Luna. I would really like me to get my
shit together so she'd be homeschooled, so I could get
rich and have a twenty four hour tutor or whatever
(05:54):
eight hour day tutor. Because as a child I hated
waking up in the morning to go to school all
all all the way to high school. So when I
turned around and had a kid and I had to
start fucking taking her, I was like, I didn't even
get a good break. Twenty years is not enough. I
mean how many years did I get, Like eighteen? I
mean yeah, it just wasn't enough. And so I'm just like,
(06:16):
I like not having a schedule, and I like along
with the flow. I mean, I'm maybe irin. Me and
Luna and Orlando just came back from a camping trip,
which I really felt was like an extension of their
overnight camp. She was like, this is basically what we
did at camp. I was like, perfect, it's family camp
and it was really really fun and really nice. She
(06:37):
had had a bucket list for the camp like for summer,
and one of the things was like, I want to
going camping, and I really wanted to go camping too
since that last time Adventure Bay took us one hundred
years ago. But I have no equipment. So finally, my friend,
my best friend, who I've known for like fifteen years,
she moved up north and she was like, I'm gonna
come down and busit you guys. And then she was
like I'm gonna go back on Tuesday, and I was
(06:58):
like why and because we're going camping And I was like, well,
can we go? And She's like sure, we could drive
back up together. So we did meet her her sister Luna.
We all drove back up together and we had the
best time. We're just like playing games in the car,
doing tiktoks, just being silly and it was really fun
and like packed the whole car up with fucking tents
(07:19):
and sleeping bags and food. Orlando of course seasoned Jamaican
chicken to travel eight hours off the coast so we
could go camping. And like you take a boat, you
take a boat from the dock, you took all your
shit on there. You go to this little island across
from the dock. There's no bathrooms. There's like a floating
bathroom that you have to go to a huge, beautiful lake.
(07:41):
And we were there for like five days. We were
only supposed to be there for three, but every time
it was time to go, it was just like impossible
to get out of there. Luna's like they caught a fish,
they skinned it, they saw the whole process. She was
really intrigued by that, and like we saw a bear.
Like it was just really fun and all day long
we just sat in the sun. We get to go
paddle boarding and swim and went on like boats and
(08:02):
like rafting. It was really really fun. She met like
she met two new friends. And I don't know how
I managed to have host sleepovers on a campsite cause
some people were just coming for the day. And I
met this mom and she had two girls around in
the same age as Luna, and she was like can
they do I was like, they can stay, and she's
like really, And I was like, yeah, I don't really
get a break offten I was like, go girl, just
(08:23):
let them let her stay. Let them stay. Me and
Lando on this like tiny, literally one person tent, but
it was really fun. We didn't bathe really for like
five days. We went down once to the house to
go like take showers and come back. Can you like
bathe in the lake or something. Yeah, I just drink
a natural soapy bathed in the lake. But we just
like the parents partied at night. We barely slept and
(08:45):
then we just like everybody communal like communal, cooked, barbecued,
made breakfast for the kids. Was hell of kids. It
had to be at least like seventy people, a lot
of teenagers. My friend who host the whole thing has
like four kids of all different ages, so they're all
her friends, all her kids friends from school. I was like,
I feel like I'm in a high school party. I
was like, Kat, we're outnumbered, bitch, I need you to
(09:05):
have less high schoolers. And they're like Hippi high schoolers,
so they smoke weed. It was very interesting, but it
was like family camp. And I really enjoyed that time
with Luna and like that experience because none of us
have ever camped for that long. Orlando has never camped
at all, so it was really fun and beautiful to
just like and I realized I don't have like as adults,
(09:29):
you know, me and Shawnie were friends when I was
in like college ish, but you don't have a lot
of responsibilities, so I mean we were neighbors, but like
since then, every time I've been in Atlanta, it's been
for like a show, we're for a speaking event, and
we haven't like we'll have like a couple hours or
a day to shoot the shit, but then everybody has
shit to do, so it's just nice to be like,
let's just chill for a week and talk and hang
(09:51):
out and part Like it's like, I think that we
don't give our adult friendships enough like downtime. You have
a lunch for two hours. You might visit for a
weekend or whatever, but like overall, I hadn't just like
chilled with my friend for a week. So it was
like really nice to just oh, yeah, hey, like there's
no rush, I don't have to get everything out in
(10:13):
two hours. I don't have to hear everything that's happened
I missed. So it was just nice to just be
able to chill. And I just I recommend that I
think a lot of times in adulthood, old friends are
long distance friends. We don't get a chance to just
block out a certain amount of time, because there's no
time for that, but like it's necessary to shoot the
shit and just like chill. So I really we had
a really good time. That's great.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Yeah, I love that. Yeah, I went camping years ago.
I haven't done that kind of camping since I was
like in high school. I went to Montana with a
boyfriend and we canoed down the river for days.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Like oh yeah, I thought about you.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
And we bathed in the lake or the river and
all that. But yeah, after that experience, like it was beauty.
Floyd loved it. But the fucking moment I got to civilization,
I was like, Okay, yeah, I need a real fucking shower,
I need a real bed and air conditioning. Yeah, like yeah,
(11:11):
you take you realize like the things you like, the
little things you take for granted. Like even though you
enjoyed it, like you come back and you're like, thank god,
this is it.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Every day it was so hot. There was like we're
like on an incline, so like every like going up
the hill was a lot. Sleeping on the floor, I
mean that hot water shit and also taking a shit,
Like we had a toilet set up in the back
of the forest and it was fine, but like I
almost had to train my body, like you don't have
to shit right now. You don't have to unless did
you have any forest tories forest tories? I didn't. I'm
(11:44):
camping hories. We fucked every day we were there on
the ground in the tent. So yeah, at first, I
was just like paranoid, that can people hear us? It's
like not as loud as the jungle, you know, it's quiet.
There's literally fifty people camping out. It's a long spanning
like of a little area, but still there's people all around.
(12:04):
But it was great. And then we could like lift
the tent thing up so you could see the stars
and the moon, and I'm like, this is sexy outside sexy,
you know what it feels. It feels very primal. I
was like, this makes sense. Sleeping on the ground, fucking
under the stars, this is what God intended. That felt
very uh tribal. So it was nice. It was really fun.
(12:26):
It's nice, you know.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Speaking of friends, I had a friend come to stay
with me last week. I've been like renting out my
room in my house to very select people and like
a few months, like a month ago, I had a
friend from Abu Dabi she stayed with me for like
two months, and then my friend Anishka she came and
stayed for a week. And it's true, like I have
(12:49):
actually met Anishka on the internet like years ago, and
so much of our lives has changed since then. Like
she was not married at the time, no kids, I was.
I was still with Friday at the time, and we
just like connected. I don't even know how I think.
I just like thought she was pretty and I just
commented on her picture. I was looky, probably trying to
flirt with her or something, You're so pretty, Yeah, because
(13:13):
I don't know how to flirt with women, and what
the fuck?
Speaker 2 (13:14):
I don't know how to do that.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
That's not my forte. This is why I'm not a lesbian.
Maybe if I could get my flirting with women confidence
that I could be, it could be a real lesso.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Anyway, it evolved past that, and.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Yeah, I realized, like we've never really hung out like
for more than like two apps, maybe an hour and
a half for lunch and stuff. And so you know,
she came and she stayed for a week, and we
got to like really like spend time together, really understand
each other. She's like a piscy she's super into astrology,
So like I learned so much about myself and astrology
(13:52):
and all the stars and every person in my fucking
life and why they do this and why they do
that and why I'm doing this and da da da da,
And yeah, it was really just nice to like connect
with a woman that like I don't really know that
well and like create a new bond in that way
in my home. And so I was like, I really
actually enjoy these like little short like stints at my
(14:12):
house with people.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
I know I do know.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Like there's a woman that's interested in staying in my
house right now, but she wants to stay for six months.
I was like, bitch, I don't know about that.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
I saw her Instagram and she's doing a lot of
tiktoks and I was like, I'm gonna get annoyed.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Not a lot of ticks. You might get inspired, you
might get some of tiktoks.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
And she's making a lot of Jamaican tiktoks.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
What is a Jamaican TikTok?
Speaker 3 (14:39):
She's like playing Jamaican aunties.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
And all types of shit. But like the acting, like
the funny acting. I don't like those.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Yeah, she's like, she's sweet. I don't want to talk shit,
she's great. I just don't know if like six months
is like my steeze when it comes to this. I'm
but I like the little short, cute stint skill a
little information, we get something out a little bit, then
you get the fucked out of my home.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't think you could do six months.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
I mean, granted I'm not home a lot, but I
just I don't know. I don't know, but I did
enjoy our time together and and now like we like
we're checking in with each other. So it's like making
like adult friends, like late in life adult friends. I
mean obviously like we we made friends as adults as well,
(15:29):
but we made like I dont want to say, but
we made we made friends that we became friends though
because we literally were going through the exact same thing
at the exact same time. So we had this like
who you and I, Yeah, like we have this like
glue that bonded us together where it's like different when
you like meet someone and it's like not necessarily going
through the same thing at the same time, and like,
but like maintaining those friendships can sometimes feel challenging if
(15:53):
there's not necessarily a parallel thing happening in your life
that you guys can relate to or like alond together.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Also, we started we started a business in like ten minutes,
and so I know, yeah, you're like, we're going to
hang out once a week.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Okay, Yeah, it's true.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
I know it's true. Though, Like as adults, we prioritize.
I mean, a lot of times we have to to
the responsibilities of life and our children, and it's very
rare that we get time to spend time with other
people the way we did like in high school or
in college when there wasn't as much responsibility that I
realized it's like it's super important. Even my friend who
I'm talking about, who I hung out with, who I
(16:34):
haven't hung out with in this way in a while,
Like her kids now are like eighteen. She has twins
that are eighteen and a third daughter that is sixteen.
And I grew like they grew up with me when
they were like I met them when they were two
and three and getting to see them as women. And
I'm like, damn, I haven't even really spent time with
your kids because I've been moving around and like getting
(16:54):
to see them as women. One of them brought their boyfriend.
Have they like they live in Atlanta, they go to
Georgia State, but they were they're visiting for the summer.
Their boyfriend was there. I'm like, what the fuck do
you think you are with this boyfriend? But it's just
like they used to call me mommy, used to pick
them up from school. That was like my first experience
being with kids to that capacity, and my first mom
friend for real, for real, because I was really young.
We're eight years apart. But like, yeah, like spend times
(17:16):
with your spend time with your friends kids, like be
the auntie and like spend time with your friends and
without having anything to do. And I know that seems
like such a hard thing because we have bills and shit,
but like it's necessary and it was really nice and
it's different. It's sorry, go ahead. I was just like
and also even with her friends, like at first, I
was like telling Orlando, like, Okay, I'm gonna warn you
(17:38):
this is a very interesting group of hippie whites and
just be prepared. But like even getting to know them
and hang out with them, like it was a nice
It was a nice time.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Yeah, sometimes the brunch is not enough. Sometimes the brunch
is very surface. You're literally just glazing over, like you're
just checking off check boxes.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
That has the kids. So how's your relationship?
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Ooh that sucks?
Speaker 2 (18:01):
He did?
Speaker 1 (18:02):
What?
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Oh crazy? So how's work? Like it's just so there's
no there's really no it's not even your fault. There's
just no time for depth, you know. So like when
you're waking up in the morning with people and like
like I'm waking up making coffee. She's coming down, We're
having our coffee, we're drinking. We're drinking our coffee, having
a joint hula hooping outside I gave I showed her
my hula.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Hoops, and now I feel like I feel like that's
my calling.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Like I need to like really lead the women to
hula late hula hula hooping has like become such a
like literally like a spiritual practice for me, and I
realize how it how it translates to other women anyway,
But just.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Sorry, my brother's texting me.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Look, my brother wants to come by, like people want
to come by.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Anyway.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
We it was just nice to like get in a
rhythm with her, and then I like missed like she left,
and I'm like, sad, I missed her and I just
called her like this morning, like what are you doing?
Speaker 2 (18:57):
What's going on?
Speaker 3 (19:00):
So yeah, I think it is important to like spend
consecutive days with your friends and the people that are
the people that you want to build relationships with, even
if it's like a new friend, like have her come
spend the weekend at your house, like you know. I
think a lot of the women too, Like I know,
for our retreats, some of the women that come, like
that's what they end up doing. They're like, oh, they
send us pictures like they went to go hang out
(19:20):
like with their like Ariel, and that was the other
girl's name.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
I can't remember right now, Sam Samantha is that her name? Redhead? Yeah,
I know?
Speaker 3 (19:31):
And Emily, No, that's a different that's a different white girl,
but like two different types of people, right, Like Ariel's
a black woman from Texas, Like she's black as hell.
The other girl she white as hale. Redhead went over
to Ariel's house, spent the night, had Ariel cook her dinner,
had a girl's night talk like that's what it's about.
(19:52):
And I think like as we get older, we forget
to do that. We like have these like very designated
moments of like connection with our friends.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
We're just like we'll go.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
To lunch, get coffee, and then and then we're wondering, like, damn,
we're not We're not like I don't really know her anymore,
We're not close anymore. And it's like, no, you just
haven't like really carved out any time to really see
what's going on with them and check in with them
and vice versa. Like you guys are having very surface
surface experiences, but we're having like we're scheduling sleepovers for
our for our daughters and our kids, but never really
(20:21):
like prioritizing I guess sleepover as adults.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Adults, sleepovers are necessary to cultivate adult friendships. Like that's
how that's why the retreat works the way it does,
because we're literally waking up and going to sleep with
people every day, and like you have a day in
and day out, day in and day out, there's like
you get to cultivate a particular type of relationship because
you get that all day like all day experience on
(20:45):
a multiple days. We're doing the same things, we're going
on the same adventures, and so it's fun to just
like I realized this too, Like adults will do fun
things and then we'll talk about them for the next day.
We did like all these fun things, like oh my god,
remember last tonight when we jumped up about naked and
then you know, like we were all there, but just
to reminisce on the things that were fun, even like, oh,
(21:08):
that's what kids do too, exactly, and that's what we like.
That's the human experience that we like think that we
grow out of, but we don't. A lot of my
adult friendships have been cultivated because of sleepovers and because
of extended stays, like even me and Aaron, She's come
and stayed with us a bunch of times. He's gone
on trips. I think trips can be trips can go
either way, but you can you'll find out quickly if
(21:29):
it's someone who needs to be your friend or not,
because I've gone on fucking terrible trips with people that
are no longer my friends because they didn't need to be.
And that's good too, because then I get to figure
it out quickly. But I think that trips and sleepovers
really help cultivate adult friendships and it's necessary.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
You mentioned high school like feeling like high school. And
I just finally got the invitation to my high school reunion.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
What is it? Twenty years?
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Twenty fucking year high school reunion?
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Bitch?
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Did you go to your tenure?
Speaker 2 (22:06):
I did? You did? Yeah? And was it? It was great?
Speaker 1 (22:11):
No?
Speaker 2 (22:12):
It was fucking stupid. Oh see, I love it.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
I love to see all the fucking guys that were
so rude and dick dick holes just to be trash.
It was like, I couldn't wait to go, and it
really validated my feelings the first time. So I'm really
looking forward to round two of my twenty year high
school re union.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
I become my kids like Ruby and Michell's high school reunion, Come.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
On, come, And honestly, I'm very disappointed in this reunion
because first of all, they were like, there's this a
two part reunion. Part one, come to the football game
and hang out at the football game, and I'm like, no,
of the high school yes, I was like no. So
then I was like I don't want to go to no,
fucking I don't want to go on to a high school
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fucking football game and see y'all No, no, no. So
then the next day is then we'll have a barbecue
on campus.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
I was like, you.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Guys are fucking cheap. You want to have a barbecue
on campus. I'm like, I was like, can we really
reminist bring back? Can we bring back the throwback?
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Like?
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Can we bring back the kickback? And someone does someone
have a home in Sherman Oaks that we can have
a kickback?
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Somebody does? Can we do a throwback? Like?
Speaker 3 (23:21):
We need kegstands, we need, we need these things. We
need to run it back like we used to party
back in the day. Stop acting like fucking grown ups
and run this shit back. It's twenty years. We haven't
done this shit in twenty fucking years. I think that
every twenty year in high school, ring and beyond needs
to be like we need to throw it. We need
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to be like the ultimate kickback. So I was like,
I literally thought. I was like, are you gonna do
You're gonna be my house?
Speaker 2 (23:49):
No? Oh god no. I was like, too many people.
There's so many people.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
I know, some people probably die.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
You be acting like you're so with the ships, and
then you'd be like no, you be like, yeah, everybody
in my house, why did I do this? I don't
like any of these people I just, well, no, not
with our friends.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
But I don't really ever have parties like that where
I feel like that at my house. But that particularly
thing might happen because a I don't know these people anymore,
like they could be serial killers and now they know
where I live and be I just like I don't
know who's like an alcoholic and it's going to overstay
their welcome and just be stupid or you know, just
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like I don't want to deal with any sort of
dramas that might come up. I just but I do
think that somebody needs to volunteer their home, and I'm like,
someone has to have a house near our high school
that we can make this happen, because a barbecue on
campus sounds like some bullshit. But anyway, I'm going to
go either way because I have to. I have to
come I have to come through. I have to come
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through with all this beauty.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Just part two, not part one. I said, you just
gonna go to part two, not part one.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Yeah, show all these white boys what they missed out
on because they were too busy looking at Cali And.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
They're probably still looking at Callie and Jessica Booth.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
I know, but they I'm even at my last reunion,
one of the white boys came by to me. He's like, Erica,
I always had a thing for you, And I was
like really, because you didn't say shit. I was like, here,
I am the fucking only other black. There was like
two black girls and my whole fucking grade, throughout my
whole high school experience, and I'm thinking, like, Wow, nobody
likes black girls.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Huh.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
I just want the fucking white girls with the fucking
franky bees on and the fucking parcels whatever the fuck
those jack parcel shoes and the high socks and anyway
I know a parcel. They are like these shoes with
like there's like these like shoes that have a little
platform on them that everyone was wearing at a certain time,
and at least at my high school.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
I don't know if it was at your high school.
But I am just.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Looking forward to connecting with some people that I haven't
seen in a while, and also shitting on these nicks.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
That's my goal.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
That was my goal round one. My goal round two
is to them Yep, I'm still that bitch, and you
guys look old and I do not, oh my god,
speaking because they do I've seen some of them on
Facebook and I'm like, yo, sunscreen, sunscreen, water speaking, no
more cigarettes speaking.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Yeah, like the aging thing. I have never been so
thankful to be black, like because I was on that
trip and it was predominantly white people. First of all,
I realized a lot of like and I can't send
this to my day friends, but whatever, a lot of
those women, white women had black babies. I didn't see
the dad anywhere. Me and Orlando were the only black couple.
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There's only my friend's family was only black family. The kids,
lots of mixed children, but there was one. There's a
couple of women and I was just like, how old
are you? And they were like, first of all, I
think a lot of them thought we were high school students.
One person one high school speaking, but this was like
the this I felt like I was in high school.
There's bongs everywhere. I was like, who's they were like
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just sitting there not helping. I was like, whose fucking
kids are these? Get the fuck up. One kid asked
Orlando about Luna, Is that your sister? Ask Orlando if
Luna was his sister, and I was I almost was
like whoa. I almost was like who am I? Then
who do you think I am? But then you know
what I contained myself. I said, I'm going to shut
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the fuck up because you're his sister too. I was like,
I think maybe that was his girlfriend and see that
was his sister or whatever, but like, there's no way
you can think I'm both their moms. And I didn't
even I didn't even entertain that conversation, but I realized, like, yeah,
the aging is totally different, Like it's totally different. A
lot of those women were the same or close to
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the same age as me, or like older.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
But looked like old older, And I was like, whoa,
And I think, like in certain role, it's the sun
and I want to say the son.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
And this is not a kind statement, and I'm just
going to just keep it on a hundred. Okay, a
lot of those women have black baby daddies and they're
single moms now. But sometimes I think and then they,
like my friend was telling me, a lot of the
black guys will like leave them, steal from them. I
have an announcement for white women that date outside of
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their race. Okay, let them know.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Okay, And this is already I already support this message.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Don't even know what it is yet, I'm you just
take it for me. I'm your black friend online. Okay,
maybe I'm your black friend in real life. But I
just need to I just need to be realistic with
yourself when a black guy approaches and maybe you guys
are in the dating phase and you really you know
they're great, and everything feels like it's going well. As
a white woman who dates black men, there are certain
things you have to be aware of. Does he really
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like me? Or is he using me? Am I a
place to stay? Does he have a home? Does he
have a vehicle? Does he have a job?
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Am I putting my name down on anything?
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Okay? These are the credit because that's a big one.
If you think you're in love and he has none
of the above or two of the above, and he
doesn't and he asks you to co sign, or you
notice that he's spending more than three days when week
at your house and then it turns into four, then
terms into five, and then he's moved in and the
words of Ken the man that is not your nigga
(29:30):
for real, Like, I don't want to be the bitch,
but I'm like, and then this is what happens. White
women get with the black men, they're like, we're in love,
they get babies, they put their name on things, and
then those niggas leave them and take some shit with them,
and then they're like black guys blah blah blah, I
don't date black guys. Nah, bitch, you dated the worst
black guy that there was, and you got got because
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you weren't. You didn't have a black friend to tell you, no,
he doesn't like you, he's using you, and not to
say that this is the this is the happens to
all white women. No, there's definitely genuine love is love,
and there are people fall in love. But a lot
of times, unfortunately, black men see white women and they
take advantage of you. Okay, they take advantage because they
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think you're really nice, and you probably are, but there's
such thing as being too nice. So I think that
there's a level of I noticed in this group of
friends there's literally very little black women, but there's a
bunch of white women with black kids. And I think
that sometimes you think that they're choosing you over us,
and this is just I think that there's a level
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of ignorance that you guys have that you have to
be aware of when dating outside of your race. There's
a stereo you do just like me as black women
have to be. There's a level of ignorance that I
think black women have when dating white men too. So
there's like rules and regulations around Unfortunately, because we live
(30:55):
in a society that has created these fucking these steps
operations between us and distrust between us and fetishizing between us.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Not all the time. I do believe obviously people love.
Love is love, but I think that there's things that
we both, we all parties, need to be aware of
and as blastifically, I have seen this a lot. As
your black friend, Toney, I love you, I do, I
really do. This is a safe space for you too.
It is tell me the truth. Yes, it's time for
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you to know. And if you feel triggered by this,
then you need to maybe go write the pros and
cons down, Go get your journal, write it out. Maybe
maybe dm us let us know what's going on. Let
us know what's going on. If you join Patreon, then
we can really have a full conversation. Because my time
(31:49):
does cost a little bit. It's cost ten dollars. My
time costs ten dollars so I can deep dive with
you on this in our Patreon chat. And I'm sure
there's gonna be other women too that can give you perspective.
There's a lot of women that there's a lot of
white women, brown women, black women in Patreon that have
experienced all the all of the above. And I just
want to be clear, Black women, we are not and
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we are not what it's called excluded from the fuckery
of our of our of our men as well. We
also can be dumb bitches.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Also, we can also be dumb. But I do think
we also are dumb bitches, like historically. Let's be clear
because there's a lot.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Of black single baby mom my baby mamas. But yeah,
baby mom is out here too.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
So I want to be clear, but I want to
be clear.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
But we but we have a different sort of discernment.
We are we are choosing, we are not actually choosing
to be dumb bites.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
It doesn't mean that the most important message is you're
not exempt, Stacy, Kelly, Katie, You're not exempt. This is
just this doesn't mean that this is not going to
happen to you. So don't get up, get your black
jamal and think that you're high and mighty, and you've
done the damn thing. And he and also another thing.
(32:59):
Please don't tell your black friends, Oh I got a
new guy. His name is Jamal. He's so fine and
he is a big dick. Don't do that. That is sheep.
It's going, it's taking its way back. This is how
you get cut off from your friends. This is how
you don't get help. This is how you don't get advice.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
When we are silent while we're listening to your tragic story, and.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
We're like, we're gonna let you see how that plays out.
When you start saying shit like that, we're gonna let
you see how it plays out without putting in our
two cents. But for real, you guys, you have to
date more more warely, because it's real. It's real right here.
People are predators and of all different people, and the
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stereotypes do exist, and I just want you, guys, everyone
to be aware of it.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Like, you know, what I think is like a tip
for white women who want to date black men. What
the first step in this is you need black girlfriends first.
You can't be a white woman that's dating black men
and only have white friends. Like that's just it's not
gonna work.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
I have to just to get black girlfriends. Actually, then
you're more like that. You're more likely to be a
target if you have no black friends, because Jamal is
going to be like oh perfect, no one to Warner.
He's gonna be like sh ballin because you don't have
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one Jamala or Erica to be like knock or no, no, no, no,
no no, Please don't do this because let me tell
you what Jamal's thinking. He's thinking you're stupid, bith Okay,
So that's my announcement about interracial dating for the day.
I just think that, yeah, don't think that. Just be
on your just be on your toes, keep your eyes
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peeled because a lot of times, stereotypically, I think you
think that you're like, oh, yeah, I'm the winner and
you're It doesn't necessarily work that way. You have to
have discernment when it comes to interracial dating because sometimes
there are stereotypes that make you targets. And because we're
your friends and we love you, we want you to
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know about these things.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Do we need an affirmation that supports this? Like, what
is the affirmation?
Speaker 2 (35:09):
I'm pretty sure we've already done. Don't be a dumb bitch.
So we're gonna have to do You're not exempt, Yeah,
you're not exempt. White friends need white friends that date
black guys need black friends too. Honestly, if if you
have a black boyfriend and you have no black friends
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and he doesn't think anything's wrong with that, that's a
red flag. I think it's a red flag. I think,
why do you not have any black friends and you'll
have one black boyfriend. There's just certain things. But yeah,
I think what's the affirmation. White women who date black
men need friends, White women who date black men need
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black friends. Very simple, simple.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
I can't wait to see that written out on Instagram
and see if anyone shares it.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
I've got to see the shares hate it.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
You don't have to start with the baseline is get
a black girlfriend, you know, and you know what, maybe
that goes the other way too. Black women that want
to date white men get some white friends.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
But do you think, but do you think white friends
are gonna be like, hey, babe, Dan is using you
to flaunt you around as white friends, like he's he's
fetishizing you. I think you do need white friends. I
don't know if white friends are going to warn you
the same way, but I think you need There's questions
that you asked when I dated white guys five times
I went on dates. There's questions that I asked, have
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you ever dated a black girl before? What would your
family think if you brought me home? These are like
two very important questions. I never even got that got
that far. No, I I've never ever brought a white
man home in my whole life. Wow. Never I've made
in college, like in my early twenties.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
But even like, I don't be cause I think I've
only ever been on like two dates with the white
like what the same white man ever, I've never it's
never gone past that. And even like the white like
model homeless man that I had sex with, like very
early on in our podcast.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Oh yeah, I forgot. Oh my god, was this name
like Peacock or something online or like Pete. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
He was like he was targeting black women because remember
he was in my DMS too, Yeah, he was targeting
he was on America's Next Top Model or some shit.
And then he picks me up in like this hoop
de I've never seen a hoopdie this hoop deing. I've
never been in a hoopdie that hoopedy to this hard
and he didn't even live here, he lived in.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Like where the fuck was he living? Who knows? He
was homeless?
Speaker 3 (37:49):
Anyway, we didn't even go on a date. We just
got drunk and had sex. But we never got past that.
And yeah, I don't I don't even know.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
I don't even know. I can't even give real advice.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
I think that you maybe be more well versed in
this space for this conversation.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
But I've retired from my pink meat days, but I've
never like brought him home to my family.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
My dad, Oh my god, I could only see your
dad just clowning the fuck out of.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
You back in the day, Like in like elementary junior high,
I had a white boyfriend and he clowned me. But
the most recent time he dropped actually me and this
white boy off, Remember the one I was just so
head over heels.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
For the locks.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Yeah, yeah, he ended up cutting his hair, but he
dropped me and him off at the Hollywood Bowl for
a concert. Like maybe this is more recently, I don't know,
hollewhid No, it can't be that recent. It was like
four years ago, Okay, yeah, four or five years ago.
That seems so recent. It seems like yesterday. But he
didn't talk. He was I don't know, he was just
actually nuts. But I was just he didn't say anything
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about him being white. I was just embarrassed with my
dad that day. He was just like talking shit to
me and I was like, okay. But that was like
the first time he's ever like as an adult. I've
even brought someone around him that it wasn't black. But yeah, interesting,
these are these are This wasn't supposed to be the topic. Guys.
I just want to be clear. This is just this
(39:12):
is the divine just telling us what to say. This
is important, This is what needed to be said today.
This is on my heart today, this was on my spirit.
Just came through. I just channeled this. I just got
a Dowtler's talk.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
I just got a download.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
I just channeled.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
I had to let these white bitches know the etiquette
for dating a black man. I just had to come through.
Thank you most high.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
I mean because they'll stress. I mean, you'll be stressed
out and confused thinking you're in loudly stressed out and
then hate black people. You will, and this is my problem.
Then they're like I hate black guys and I don't
date black guys. Like, no, bitch, because you dated all
the wrong black guys and they aged you and now
you look fifty and you're twenty seven, and that's your fault.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
Okay, what we got here, the aging into dating black men.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
No, No, but I do think if you, if you
date the wrong black guy, or any guy for that matter,
they will, they will stress you.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
And I'm pretty sure that my ex boyfriend gave me
all the gray hairs on my head that I had.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
You and if you're white, you could have looked fifty
right now. Luckily you have God. Thank you. I'm just saying,
like you, it would be like the presidency, you know,
how you see the president before and after the term.
If you pick honestly, ay, that will happen.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
Honestly, let's just say a prayer. Thank you God for
making us black, because the amount of niggas that have
stressed me the fuck out. I should look four hundred
years old, honestly, but I don't because melanin, even if
I don't have the most of it, it still came
through for me. So thank you God, amen.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
I mean, and luckily, because sometimes it does it, you know,
it just you have to be at this age. You
have to be weary because if you let them stress
you and age you, it could go really wrong.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
And then at this point in this at this specifically
at this age, we can't allow men to stress us
out because if you're vain like me, it's dire. It's
just not an option. Like you really got to think
about your looks. You got to think about your neck
and your under eyes and those frown lines that are
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constantly being activated because you're crying at night letting these
men stress you out. If you are above the age
of thirty five and dating, you cannot allow the men
to stress you out, especially if you're white.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
Especially and also, and this is going to not sound
that kind too, but like, are you also like the
same level of fine or is he using you?
Speaker 3 (41:34):
You know, we can't just we can't just say if
you're if this is the first fine nigg you've ever
been here, I'm not saying because because even Ken the
Man said she was that Nigga's first bad bitch, Like
I don't know if.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
That's the six that's my favorite line in all of
her music, because I am that Nigga's first bad bitch.
He's gonna edit this. I mean I would agree a
so with she can. I think I'm his first bad
I mean, like, come on, maybe make a little timid
and scared. Maybe me and Erica are just delusionally conceded confident.
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I mean when I go If I go out and
a guy who's like very not attractive talks to me
or tries to I get offended, like, come on, come
on you, why'd you come over here? I'm nice, I'm
always right.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
But I think also, because yes we're beautiful women, we're
going to hell. I think, yes, we're both beautiful women.
But I think also our personalities make us bad bitches,
and we know that.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
So that adds to the bad.
Speaker 3 (42:34):
Bitchness, which is why we're secure saying we're that niggas
first bad bitch, because not only do we look good,
but we're smart and we're fun and we do have
shit going on, and we're funding just the looks. There's
like there's like a foundation to this bad bitchery.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
It's a package.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
It's a foundation to bad bitchery. And it's not just
it looks. It's confident, it's substance. You have to have
some substance.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
There a substance, like you said, the con confidence. Yeah,
the confidence, and you know.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
You're if you can call yourself a bad bitch confidently,
because that's actually I mean, it's it is pretty like
conceited and pathological to.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
Say that about yourself.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
But also like I don't think that it's I mean
I'm a bad bitch. I'm just I'm just saying, yes, yes, yes,
I mean I call myself bad bitch all the time.
I'm just saying for most people that feel really uncomfortable
saying that even though they are. There's a lot of
bad bitches that have all the things that we have, right,
but they lack the confidence. Like they have the success,
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they have the looks, they have the personality, but they
would never feel comfortable even saying that about themselves.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
And I understand that. I think I've just gotten to
a place where I'm confident about saying it because I
always thought that it meant like I'm I thought I
confuse it of being conceited, and I realized that that's
the that's the trick that they tell women, you know
what I mean, Like men are more allowed to be
more like both boastful and like confident about who they are.
But women, Yeah, but women are supposed to be modest
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and humble, And you can be modest and humble, but
you can still know what the fuck it is. And
what it is is that I'm a bad bitch. And
I think that is important and that goes far. And
I think that we've been given this lie that we're
supposed to be like I'm all right, I'm okay now, bitch,
get the fuck out my way. I look good, you
know what I mean? And I and I think that
I think that we should all possess that feeling about ourselves,
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even if I mean, even me, I'm not like the
most I'm not the video model version of beautiful. There's
every there's only a very small slither of what society
tells you it's beautiful. We're all gonna veer outside of that.
I'm not the most beautiful women in the world. However,
I think that that's all that matters. It's about like
the how you feel about yourself, how you present, and
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the confidence that makes it go far. And I think
everyone should feel that way about themselves period.
Speaker 3 (44:51):
Maybe the affirmation is, oh, it's not, it's not.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
It can't be white part affirmation in case the first
one doesn't go as well. It goes so well.
Speaker 3 (45:03):
Take a deep breath, Take a deep breath, and repeat
after me.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
I am a bit, I am a bad bitch. I'm
a bad bitch. I'm that bitch. And if you don't
know it, move out my way like Luda.
Speaker 3 (45:21):
Well before we get out of here, bad bitch member two. Uh,
we have a hory. It's a short one. It's not
really a hooy.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
It's kind of like an.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
Advice question slash share in our discord. Okay, someone wrote
in our discord. And if you haven't joined Patreon, once
you join Patreon, you get access to our discord, which
is if you don't know what discord is, because I
think a lot of people don't really understand what discord is.
It's like an online chat community. So once you join Patreon,
you get access to Discord, which you have to download
(45:53):
the app Discord, and then you get into our server
and there's all these conversations happening, so many conversations, different channels,
different channels where you can find people in your city.
There's people sharing their whore stories, there's people sharing their titties,
there's people sharing they're venting. So there's this whole channel
just for venting.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
If you just need to.
Speaker 3 (46:13):
Get some shit off your chest that like you can't
text or say to anybody, or maybe you feel even
embarrassed that you need to say, that's the.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
Place to do it. Yeah, it's just it's a place.
Speaker 3 (46:23):
Where you can be free with your fingers. But anyway,
I just got this today from somebody in our hoary
section and it said, hey, y'all, I started having sex
with this man and I plan on doing it again
as often as possible. But he's bigger than what I'm
used to. This happened on Saturday. My neck still ain't
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right today, lots of deep throating. Well, my neck get
used to this question, Mark, I.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
Might to say, No, I don't think so. I don't
think my neck has it. But why is it because
you're doing this? Is he pushing your head a lot?
Speaker 3 (47:05):
Or like what you got to relax, relax your neck,
relax your shoulders.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
You gotta get to be in a comfortable position.
Speaker 3 (47:12):
Yeah, make sure you're make sure that you're checking in
with your comfort while you're I think as women like
we make ourselves very will like sit in a very
we'll put our bodies in such uncomfortable positions during sex
to please the person, to please the other person because
like they're close, bit, nigga, you better we gotta start
over then because I'm uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
That doesn't make for good sex.
Speaker 3 (47:34):
No, because they because now your neck hurts.
Speaker 2 (47:37):
If one person is uncomfortable, it's just not it's not
the move.
Speaker 3 (47:41):
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Smaya's classes on Patreon, I don't know if she still
has them up and going, but she has a dick
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And you have to relax. You have to like do
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a yawn that's really a ship to open up your
to open up your throat so that you can take
more in. And it's like a like.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
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for the throat chakra. It's gonna be is it gonna
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Speaker 3 (48:31):
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probably YouTube videos about this at this point. But I
do think that it could get better. But some sometimes
a niggas dick is just big, and it's just big,
and it's not meant to fit. It's not meant to
fit all the way in. And that's okay, there's that's
(48:52):
why you have hands.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
Yeah, used a hand. Yeah, thank you for the question.
I was a good one.
Speaker 3 (49:04):
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Speaker 2 (49:15):
Oh what what was he? Osborne died? I mean, I know,
I mean, I it's horrible. I feel sorry.
Speaker 3 (49:26):
I just got an alert on my phone right now.
Speaker 2 (49:29):
God, you know what's so crazy? Rest in peace, Ozzy Osbourne?
Because I watched that show growing up, but recently.
Speaker 3 (49:34):
Literally just had his last he just had his last
Black Sabbath concert.
Speaker 2 (49:39):
Ever.
Speaker 3 (49:39):
This was literally like a week and a half ago.
Because I saw a bunch of like like like rock
artists currently right now basically do the concert for him.
And he was like wheelchaired out there was he a
wheelchair for real?
Speaker 2 (49:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (49:52):
Like he's not he the drugs he was going ever
on the reality show, he was barely like barming words.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
That's why I was surprised he was still alive. I
reached I recently literally said, wow, he's still alive. Seventy six.
Oh wow, he's like he's pretty. I mean, it's old young.
I don't know what's the average rate of death these days.
I mean with all the food and the fucking heavy metals,
it's probably fucking sixty. But also I think that it
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was like preserving him.
Speaker 3 (50:23):
He was like, no, no, no, for sure, the drugs preserve
preserve people. Like when I look at what's his name,
Mick Jagger, he has like his face is old as fuck,
but his body is like a twenty two year old
really yeah, girl, go look it up.
Speaker 2 (50:38):
I'm like, how fuck you got?
Speaker 3 (50:39):
How is your body looked twenty five and your face
looks one hundred and two.
Speaker 2 (50:42):
He's probably working out and doing drugs.
Speaker 3 (50:45):
It's almost like you can't stop doing the drugs because
if you do, you might you might actually really die anyway.
Speaker 2 (50:51):
Rest in peace, Ozzy Osboorren, Rest in peace. Yeah, and
rest in peace, Malcolm Jamal Warner.
Speaker 3 (50:57):
I know, yeah, that was really and and it breaks
my ant because it happened in our town of Costa Rica,
where we bring the ladies for the retreats. When I
heard when when they said Costa Rica, I was like, God,
please not please, not.
Speaker 2 (51:08):
Important, so please I had I had a feeling because
that's where the black people go, I know.
Speaker 3 (51:13):
And yeah, Troy told me it wasn't Cochalis, it was
pli A Chaquitha.
Speaker 2 (51:17):
Really.
Speaker 3 (51:18):
Yeah, I don't know what's what it's what's true or not,
but both those places the tide can get strong.
Speaker 2 (51:24):
Someone told me was pl Okay we go. There's a
lot of rumors going. We're gonna, we're gonna have We're
gonna when we get there, we'll be there in two days.
We're gonna be on the ground. We'll figure this out.
Speaker 3 (51:33):
We'll tell you we're gonna leave an offering in the
ocean for him because he's God. He was like, he's excellen.
It's a black legend icon like people grew up with him. Yeah,
it's just really sad. So anyway, I hug the people
you love, Tell the people you love that you love
them even when you're mad at them. And yeah, just
(51:54):
take take advantage of just appreciate every morning that God
wakes you up because it's just literally not guaranteed. Like
you just don't know. You think you're on a family
vacation and then you like the first beach you go to,
like I can only imagine, like when you're in that scenario,
you're like, this is.
Speaker 2 (52:12):
How I'm gonna go. This is it.
Speaker 3 (52:15):
That was his first day, the first day there, like
this is how, this is it, this is God, this
is this is how I'm going.
Speaker 2 (52:24):
Fuck, you just don't know, So appreciate, appreciate the present absolutely,
and and I love you and we'll see you next week. Bye.
Speaker 4 (52:37):
Yeah, I'm Lina, been so good, can't you tell? I
went through a drought. That's until I found out where
may my have been known? Art that used to be
broken tail now got the blue dance And like Beyonceasell.
Speaker 2 (52:48):
Throat shot with pop and it's cowering our voices.
Speaker 4 (52:51):
Patriarchy kept it in the box to exploited women put
the p and power.
Speaker 2 (52:55):
So what's pointless. They want me to be good, So
I made that sad mom. Not a bad mom, but
a bad mom.
Speaker 4 (53:01):
It's in on for cannabis in her bath. Bon walked
in Boston's cap and I blew his cat boss hot Dog.
Speaker 2 (53:07):
Now I'm immune to the.
Speaker 4 (53:08):
Cat called Herbie in the waisted straight to it like
a dollar sign.
Speaker 2 (53:12):
Mother, rent the lover, when to it.
Speaker 4 (53:13):
It's like a water simmer where you rent the winter
essential will when the summertime.
Speaker 2 (53:17):
I do it all. Ain't know one that needs to
run it by
Once upon a time there was a good old traditional housewife.
She couldn't She cleaned, cared for her children and the
man of the house, and of course she didn't talk back.
She was both obedient and soft by nature. She was
a good woman who always made good choices.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
That we're good Mom's bad choices. Who's single mom who
said fuck the patriarchy, shared all their bad choices and
sound out they were so bad. After all, we're expert
overshares and your new besties.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Sit back and enjoy the ride.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
I can do it.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
That.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Welcome back to Good Mom's Bad Choices.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I'm Erica and I'm Mela, and it's Wednesday. It is
welcome back to the Good Mom Show. How are you feeling?
I'm good.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
We're doing this episode from home today, which is very rare.
We decided to honor our energy and keep it in
the crib, so I feel good. I put makeup on,
and shit, I got lipliner overdrawn on my lips and
stuff like I'm going somewhere. But if you saw what
I was wearing under below this shirt, I'm still in
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my pajamas, not below the shirt. But I do have
my I do have our merch on which I do too.
Oh look, see if we' even mean to do this.
I think that one's sold out, but this one is not.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
I wear our merch a lot, and you should too.
You should check out our merchant goot Mom's Bad Choices
dot com. We make a lot of cute shit, a
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a lot of things that you want to say, but
sometimes you don't say it. This one says goddess spiritual sorority,
because where a god is spiritual sorority?
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Black as fuck, mom as fuck, fine as fuck?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Yep, do you wear that one?
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Me?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Do you wear that one? When you pick up Iri
from school?
Speaker 3 (01:55):
I wear all of our I think I talked to
you about this on the few episodes ago. I don't
not wear our merch. I don't spare my child's feelings
when it comes to my merch because I created this.
This is my shit, and I want and I know
when other moms, and it happens every time I wear
it and I go to the school, they're like, oh
my God, where suld I'm like, I need it. So
(02:17):
I think that we should normalize wearing statement pieces.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Just schools to school pick up.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
These parents know who we are and don't add me
to the group text bitch. Maybe I'll prevent her about
unless you're with the shits.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Maybe I'll present them from asking for sleepovers and play dates.
That's fine, I hate and Lona's like, can you get
some and seose mom's numbers if you have a play date?
Speaker 3 (02:39):
And no, at this point, I know I don't. I
don't do that anymore, and say, if you want me
to have the you get her mom's number. I'm not
going to go search the databases of the onlines of
the log into the school portal that I can't remember
to try and find this bitch's phone number and also
text her randomly like hey, this is ives.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
I've done that, and I will.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
But also like, I think our kids are old enough
to be like, hey, what's your phone number?
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Write it on a piece of paper and get yeah,
literal will bring home the paper. I'm like, Okay, I'll
do what I gotta do. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
But honestly, this summer, like Iri hasn't really been like
hanging out so much with her friends from school. This
is the first summer that I haven't put her in
camp at her school, and it was by design because
I really wanted her to like branch out and like
have other experiences, go to the sleep away camp that
we had sent our kids to, and also like I
wanted to have more flexibility, And I think that she's
(03:39):
actually enjoyed it more like she's still fucking sleeping right now.
First of all, if she was in camp, she would
be on her tenth activity, which is great too, But
I just feel like I just needed this summer to
like not feel like I had to adhere to a
strict pickup, drop off schedule, even though those hours away
do help, but I think it's also helped me slow
(04:00):
down to like in parenting and like having to like
figure things out with her, be more present with her,
and like I'm really focused on just like deepening our relationship,
and I felt like summer camp was actually like hindering
that because she was gone most of the day. It
was like she was in school, and so like she
spends all year away from me in school, so me
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not putting her in camp this summer, I feel like
it has been a really good thing for our relationship.
I've seen how our relationship has like deepened and there's
more trust and she's sharing more, and I think a
lot of the worry that I had is starting to
dissipate because I felt like, oh my god, she.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Doesn't talk to me. What am I doing?
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Like I felt like I'm doing everything my mom didn't
do on purpose because I didn't want to talk to
her about shit. And here I am, like, you can
tell me anything, nothing will get you in trouble, and
she's like not saying shit. So I think it was
just like a matter of just spending more time together.
So I actually advocate for not sending your kid to
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some camp all fucking summer. I know parents are like.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
But I need the break.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
I mean, and you have if you have multiple kids,
like I get it, Like I only got one, and
she's like self sufficient and mature.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
I'm lucky, So yeah, I the summer break is for
me too, Like I'm not waking up at eight am
to take you to camp. In fact, when she did
do school camp with Irate, it was actually in my
benefit because her grandmother lives closer to the school, so
in a lot of times we'd be not here, so
(05:32):
I that was my like, here, she's going to camp
from your house. But yeah, I don't know if this
is acceptable to say, but I fucking despise waking up
in the morning and making lunch and picking up like
pick up school drop off, some pickups. I would really
like Luna. I would really like me to get my
shit together so she'd be homeschooled, so I could get
rich and have a twenty four hour tutor or whatever
(05:54):
eight hour day tutor. Because as a child I hated
waking up in the morning to go to school all
all all the way to high school. So when I
turned around and had a kid and I had to
start fucking taking her, I was like, I didn't even
get a good break. Twenty years is not enough. I
mean how many years did I get, Like eighteen? I
mean yeah, it just wasn't enough. And so I'm just like,
(06:16):
I like not having a schedule, and I like along
with the flow. I mean, I'm maybe irin. Me and
Luna and Orlando just came back from a camping trip,
which I really felt was like an extension of their
overnight camp. She was like, this is basically what we
did at camp. I was like, perfect, it's family camp
and it was really really fun and really nice. She
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had had a bucket list for the camp like for summer,
and one of the things was like, I want to
going camping, and I really wanted to go camping too
since that last time Adventure Bay took us one hundred
years ago. But I have no equipment. So finally, my friend,
my best friend, who I've known for like fifteen years,
she moved up north and she was like, I'm gonna
come down and busit you guys. And then she was
like I'm gonna go back on Tuesday, and I was
(06:58):
like why and because we're going camping And I was like, well,
can we go? And She's like sure, we could drive
back up together. So we did meet her her sister Luna.
We all drove back up together and we had the
best time. We're just like playing games in the car,
doing tiktoks, just being silly and it was really fun
and like packed the whole car up with fucking tents
(07:19):
and sleeping bags and food. Orlando of course seasoned Jamaican
chicken to travel eight hours off the coast so we
could go camping. And like you take a boat, you
take a boat from the dock, you took all your
shit on there. You go to this little island across
from the dock. There's no bathrooms. There's like a floating
bathroom that you have to go to a huge, beautiful lake.
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And we were there for like five days. We were
only supposed to be there for three, but every time
it was time to go, it was just like impossible
to get out of there. Luna's like they caught a fish,
they skinned it, they saw the whole process. She was
really intrigued by that, and like we saw a bear.
Like it was just really fun and all day long
we just sat in the sun. We get to go
paddle boarding and swim and went on like boats and
(08:02):
like rafting. It was really really fun. She met like
she met two new friends. And I don't know how
I managed to have host sleepovers on a campsite cause
some people were just coming for the day. And I
met this mom and she had two girls around in
the same age as Luna, and she was like can
they do I was like, they can stay, and she's
like really, And I was like, yeah, I don't really
get a break offten I was like, go girl, just
(08:23):
let them let her stay. Let them stay. Me and
Lando on this like tiny, literally one person tent, but
it was really fun. We didn't bathe really for like
five days. We went down once to the house to
go like take showers and come back. Can you like
bathe in the lake or something. Yeah, I just drink
a natural soapy bathed in the lake. But we just
like the parents partied at night. We barely slept and
(08:45):
then we just like everybody communal like communal, cooked, barbecued,
made breakfast for the kids. Was hell of kids. It
had to be at least like seventy people, a lot
of teenagers. My friend who host the whole thing has
like four kids of all different ages, so they're all
her friends, all her kids friends from school. I was like,
I feel like I'm in a high school party. I
was like, Kat, we're outnumbered, bitch, I need you to
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have less high schoolers. And they're like Hippi high schoolers,
so they smoke weed. It was very interesting, but it
was like family camp. And I really enjoyed that time
with Luna and like that experience because none of us
have ever camped for that long. Orlando has never camped
at all, so it was really fun and beautiful to
just like and I realized I don't have like as adults,
(09:29):
you know, me and Shawnie were friends when I was
in like college ish, but you don't have a lot
of responsibilities, so I mean we were neighbors, but like
since then, every time I've been in Atlanta, it's been
for like a show, we're for a speaking event, and
we haven't like we'll have like a couple hours or
a day to shoot the shit, but then everybody has
shit to do, so it's just nice to be like,
let's just chill for a week and talk and hang
(09:51):
out and part Like it's like, I think that we
don't give our adult friendships enough like downtime. You have
a lunch for two hours. You might visit for a
weekend or whatever, but like overall, I hadn't just like
chilled with my friend for a week. So it was
like really nice to just oh, yeah, hey, like there's
no rush, I don't have to get everything out in
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two hours. I don't have to hear everything that's happened
I missed. So it was just nice to just be
able to chill. And I just I recommend that I
think a lot of times in adulthood, old friends are
long distance friends. We don't get a chance to just
block out a certain amount of time, because there's no
time for that, but like it's necessary to shoot the
shit and just like chill. So I really we had
a really good time. That's great.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Yeah, I love that. Yeah, I went camping years ago.
I haven't done that kind of camping since I was
like in high school. I went to Montana with a
boyfriend and we canoed down the river for days.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Like oh yeah, I thought about you.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
And we bathed in the lake or the river and
all that. But yeah, after that experience, like it was beauty.
Floyd loved it. But the fucking moment I got to civilization,
I was like, Okay, yeah, I need a real fucking shower,
I need a real bed and air conditioning. Yeah, like yeah,
(11:11):
you take you realize like the things you like, the
little things you take for granted. Like even though you
enjoyed it, like you come back and you're like, thank god,
this is it.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Every day it was so hot. There was like we're
like on an incline, so like every like going up
the hill was a lot. Sleeping on the floor, I
mean that hot water shit and also taking a shit,
Like we had a toilet set up in the back
of the forest and it was fine, but like I
almost had to train my body, like you don't have
to shit right now. You don't have to unless did
you have any forest tories forest tories? I didn't. I'm
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camping hories. We fucked every day we were there on
the ground in the tent. So yeah, at first, I
was just like paranoid, that can people hear us? It's
like not as loud as the jungle, you know, it's quiet.
There's literally fifty people camping out. It's a long spanning
like of a little area, but still there's people all around.
(12:04):
But it was great. And then we could like lift
the tent thing up so you could see the stars
and the moon, and I'm like, this is sexy outside sexy,
you know what it feels. It feels very primal. I
was like, this makes sense. Sleeping on the ground, fucking
under the stars, this is what God intended. That felt
very uh tribal. So it was nice. It was really fun.
(12:26):
It's nice, you know.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Speaking of friends, I had a friend come to stay
with me last week. I've been like renting out my
room in my house to very select people and like
a few months, like a month ago, I had a
friend from Abu Dabi she stayed with me for like
two months, and then my friend Anishka she came and
stayed for a week. And it's true, like I have
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actually met Anishka on the internet like years ago, and
so much of our lives has changed since then. Like
she was not married at the time, no kids, I was.
I was still with Friday at the time, and we
just like connected. I don't even know how I think.
I just like thought she was pretty and I just
commented on her picture. I was looky, probably trying to
flirt with her or something, You're so pretty, Yeah, because
(13:13):
I don't know how to flirt with women, and what
the fuck?
Speaker 2 (13:14):
I don't know how to do that.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
That's not my forte. This is why I'm not a lesbian.
Maybe if I could get my flirting with women confidence
that I could be, it could be a real lesso.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Anyway, it evolved past that, and.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Yeah, I realized, like we've never really hung out like
for more than like two apps, maybe an hour and
a half for lunch and stuff. And so you know,
she came and she stayed for a week, and we
got to like really like spend time together, really understand
each other. She's like a piscy she's super into astrology,
So like I learned so much about myself and astrology
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and all the stars and every person in my fucking
life and why they do this and why they do
that and why I'm doing this and da da da da,
And yeah, it was really just nice to like connect
with a woman that like I don't really know that
well and like create a new bond in that way
in my home. And so I was like, I really
actually enjoy these like little short like stints at my
(14:12):
house with people.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
I know I do know.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Like there's a woman that's interested in staying in my
house right now, but she wants to stay for six months.
I was like, bitch, I don't know about that.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
I saw her Instagram and she's doing a lot of
tiktoks and I was like, I'm gonna get annoyed.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Not a lot of ticks. You might get inspired, you
might get some of tiktoks.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
And she's making a lot of Jamaican tiktoks.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
What is a Jamaican TikTok?
Speaker 3 (14:39):
She's like playing Jamaican aunties.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
And all types of shit. But like the acting, like
the funny acting. I don't like those.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Yeah, she's like, she's sweet. I don't want to talk shit,
she's great. I just don't know if like six months
is like my steeze when it comes to this. I'm
but I like the little short, cute stint skill a
little information, we get something out a little bit, then
you get the fucked out of my home.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't think you could do six months.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
I mean, granted I'm not home a lot, but I
just I don't know. I don't know, but I did
enjoy our time together and and now like we like
we're checking in with each other. So it's like making
like adult friends, like late in life adult friends. I
mean obviously like we we made friends as adults as well,
(15:29):
but we made like I dont want to say, but
we made we made friends that we became friends though
because we literally were going through the exact same thing
at the exact same time. So we had this like
who you and I, Yeah, like we have this like
glue that bonded us together where it's like different when
you like meet someone and it's like not necessarily going
through the same thing at the same time, and like,
but like maintaining those friendships can sometimes feel challenging if
(15:53):
there's not necessarily a parallel thing happening in your life
that you guys can relate to or like alond together.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Also, we started we started a business in like ten minutes,
and so I know, yeah, you're like, we're going to
hang out once a week.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Okay, Yeah, it's true.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
I know it's true. Though, Like as adults, we prioritize.
I mean, a lot of times we have to to
the responsibilities of life and our children, and it's very
rare that we get time to spend time with other
people the way we did like in high school or
in college when there wasn't as much responsibility that I
realized it's like it's super important. Even my friend who
I'm talking about, who I hung out with, who I
(16:34):
haven't hung out with in this way in a while,
Like her kids now are like eighteen. She has twins
that are eighteen and a third daughter that is sixteen.
And I grew like they grew up with me when
they were like I met them when they were two
and three and getting to see them as women. And
I'm like, damn, I haven't even really spent time with
your kids because I've been moving around and like getting
(16:54):
to see them as women. One of them brought their boyfriend.
Have they like they live in Atlanta, they go to
Georgia State, but they were they're visiting for the summer.
Their boyfriend was there. I'm like, what the fuck do
you think you are with this boyfriend? But it's just
like they used to call me mommy, used to pick
them up from school. That was like my first experience
being with kids to that capacity, and my first mom
friend for real, for real, because I was really young.
We're eight years apart. But like, yeah, like spend times
(17:16):
with your spend time with your friends kids, like be
the auntie and like spend time with your friends and
without having anything to do. And I know that seems
like such a hard thing because we have bills and shit,
but like it's necessary and it was really nice and
it's different. It's sorry, go ahead. I was just like
and also even with her friends, like at first, I
was like telling Orlando, like, Okay, I'm gonna warn you
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this is a very interesting group of hippie whites and
just be prepared. But like even getting to know them
and hang out with them, like it was a nice
It was a nice time.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Yeah, sometimes the brunch is not enough. Sometimes the brunch
is very surface. You're literally just glazing over, like you're
just checking off check boxes.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
That has the kids. So how's your relationship?
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Ooh that sucks?
Speaker 2 (18:01):
He did?
Speaker 1 (18:02):
What?
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Oh crazy? So how's work? Like it's just so there's
no there's really no it's not even your fault. There's
just no time for depth, you know. So like when
you're waking up in the morning with people and like
like I'm waking up making coffee. She's coming down, We're
having our coffee, we're drinking. We're drinking our coffee, having
a joint hula hooping outside I gave I showed her
my hula.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Hoops, and now I feel like I feel like that's
my calling.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Like I need to like really lead the women to
hula late hula hula hooping has like become such a
like literally like a spiritual practice for me, and I
realize how it how it translates to other women anyway,
But just.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Sorry, my brother's texting me.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Look, my brother wants to come by, like people want
to come by.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Anyway.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
We it was just nice to like get in a
rhythm with her, and then I like missed like she left,
and I'm like, sad, I missed her and I just
called her like this morning, like what are you doing?
Speaker 2 (18:57):
What's going on?
Speaker 3 (19:00):
So yeah, I think it is important to like spend
consecutive days with your friends and the people that are
the people that you want to build relationships with, even
if it's like a new friend, like have her come
spend the weekend at your house, like you know. I
think a lot of the women too, Like I know,
for our retreats, some of the women that come, like
that's what they end up doing. They're like, oh, they
send us pictures like they went to go hang out
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like with their like Ariel, and that was the other
girl's name.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
I can't remember right now, Sam Samantha is that her name? Redhead? Yeah,
I know?
Speaker 3 (19:31):
And Emily, No, that's a different that's a different white girl,
but like two different types of people, right, Like Ariel's
a black woman from Texas, Like she's black as hell.
The other girl she white as hale. Redhead went over
to Ariel's house, spent the night, had Ariel cook her dinner,
had a girl's night talk like that's what it's about.
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And I think like as we get older, we forget
to do that. We like have these like very designated
moments of like connection with our friends.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
We're just like we'll go.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
To lunch, get coffee, and then and then we're wondering, like, damn,
we're not We're not like I don't really know her anymore,
We're not close anymore. And it's like, no, you just
haven't like really carved out any time to really see
what's going on with them and check in with them
and vice versa. Like you guys are having very surface
surface experiences, but we're having like we're scheduling sleepovers for
our for our daughters and our kids, but never really
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like prioritizing I guess sleepover as adults.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Adults, sleepovers are necessary to cultivate adult friendships. Like that's
how that's why the retreat works the way it does,
because we're literally waking up and going to sleep with
people every day, and like you have a day in
and day out, day in and day out, there's like
you get to cultivate a particular type of relationship because
you get that all day like all day experience on
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a multiple days. We're doing the same things, we're going
on the same adventures, and so it's fun to just
like I realized this too, Like adults will do fun
things and then we'll talk about them for the next day.
We did like all these fun things, like oh my god,
remember last tonight when we jumped up about naked and
then you know, like we were all there, but just
to reminisce on the things that were fun, even like, oh,
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that's what kids do too, exactly, and that's what we like.
That's the human experience that we like think that we
grow out of, but we don't. A lot of my
adult friendships have been cultivated because of sleepovers and because
of extended stays, like even me and Aaron, She's come
and stayed with us a bunch of times. He's gone
on trips. I think trips can be trips can go
either way, but you can you'll find out quickly if
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it's someone who needs to be your friend or not,
because I've gone on fucking terrible trips with people that
are no longer my friends because they didn't need to be.
And that's good too, because then I get to figure
it out quickly. But I think that trips and sleepovers
really help cultivate adult friendships and it's necessary.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
You mentioned high school like feeling like high school. And
I just finally got the invitation to my high school reunion.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
What is it? Twenty years?
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Twenty fucking year high school reunion?
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Bitch?
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Did you go to your tenure?
Speaker 2 (22:06):
I did? You did? Yeah? And was it? It was great?
Speaker 1 (22:11):
No?
Speaker 2 (22:12):
It was fucking stupid. Oh see, I love it.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
I love to see all the fucking guys that were
so rude and dick dick holes just to be trash.
It was like, I couldn't wait to go, and it
really validated my feelings the first time. So I'm really
looking forward to round two of my twenty year high
school re union.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
I become my kids like Ruby and Michell's high school reunion, Come.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
On, come, And honestly, I'm very disappointed in this reunion
because first of all, they were like, there's this a
two part reunion. Part one, come to the football game
and hang out at the football game, and I'm like, no,
of the high school yes, I was like no. So
then I was like I don't want to go to no,
fucking I don't want to go on to a high school
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fucking football game and see y'all No, no, no. So
then the next day is then we'll have a barbecue
on campus.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
I was like, you.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Guys are fucking cheap. You want to have a barbecue
on campus. I'm like, I was like, can we really
reminist bring back? Can we bring back the throwback?
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Like?
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Can we bring back the kickback? And someone does someone
have a home in Sherman Oaks that we can have
a kickback?
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Somebody does? Can we do a throwback? Like?
Speaker 3 (23:21):
We need kegstands, we need, we need these things. We
need to run it back like we used to party
back in the day. Stop acting like fucking grown ups
and run this shit back. It's twenty years. We haven't
done this shit in twenty fucking years. I think that
every twenty year in high school, ring and beyond needs
to be like we need to throw it. We need
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to be like the ultimate kickback. So I was like,
I literally thought. I was like, are you gonna do
You're gonna be my house?
Speaker 2 (23:49):
No? Oh god no. I was like, too many people.
There's so many people.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
I know, some people probably die.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
You be acting like you're so with the ships, and
then you'd be like no, you be like, yeah, everybody
in my house, why did I do this? I don't
like any of these people I just, well, no, not
with our friends.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
But I don't really ever have parties like that where
I feel like that at my house. But that particularly
thing might happen because a I don't know these people anymore,
like they could be serial killers and now they know
where I live and be I just like I don't
know who's like an alcoholic and it's going to overstay
their welcome and just be stupid or you know, just
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like I don't want to deal with any sort of
dramas that might come up. I just but I do
think that somebody needs to volunteer their home, and I'm like,
someone has to have a house near our high school
that we can make this happen, because a barbecue on
campus sounds like some bullshit. But anyway, I'm going to
go either way because I have to. I have to
come I have to come through. I have to come
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through with all this beauty.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Just part two, not part one. I said, you just
gonna go to part two, not part one.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Yeah, show all these white boys what they missed out
on because they were too busy looking at Cali And.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
They're probably still looking at Callie and Jessica Booth.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
I know, but they I'm even at my last reunion,
one of the white boys came by to me. He's like, Erica,
I always had a thing for you, And I was
like really, because you didn't say shit. I was like, here,
I am the fucking only other black. There was like
two black girls and my whole fucking grade, throughout my
whole high school experience, and I'm thinking, like, Wow, nobody
likes black girls.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Huh.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
I just want the fucking white girls with the fucking
franky bees on and the fucking parcels whatever the fuck
those jack parcel shoes and the high socks and anyway
I know a parcel. They are like these shoes with
like there's like these like shoes that have a little
platform on them that everyone was wearing at a certain time,
and at least at my high school.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
I don't know if it was at your high school.
But I am just.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Looking forward to connecting with some people that I haven't
seen in a while, and also shitting on these nicks.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
That's my goal.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
That was my goal round one. My goal round two
is to them Yep, I'm still that bitch, and you
guys look old and I do not, oh my god,
speaking because they do I've seen some of them on
Facebook and I'm like, yo, sunscreen, sunscreen, water speaking, no
more cigarettes speaking.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Yeah, like the aging thing. I have never been so
thankful to be black, like because I was on that
trip and it was predominantly white people. First of all,
I realized a lot of like and I can't send
this to my day friends, but whatever, a lot of
those women, white women had black babies. I didn't see
the dad anywhere. Me and Orlando were the only black couple.
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There's only my friend's family was only black family. The kids,
lots of mixed children, but there was one. There's a
couple of women and I was just like, how old
are you? And they were like, first of all, I
think a lot of them thought we were high school students.
One person one high school speaking, but this was like
the this I felt like I was in high school.
There's bongs everywhere. I was like, who's they were like
(26:59):
just sitting there not helping. I was like, whose fucking
kids are these? Get the fuck up. One kid asked
Orlando about Luna, Is that your sister? Ask Orlando if
Luna was his sister, and I was I almost was
like whoa. I almost was like who am I? Then
who do you think I am? But then you know
what I contained myself. I said, I'm going to shut
(27:20):
the fuck up because you're his sister too. I was like,
I think maybe that was his girlfriend and see that
was his sister or whatever, but like, there's no way
you can think I'm both their moms. And I didn't
even I didn't even entertain that conversation, but I realized, like, yeah,
the aging is totally different, Like it's totally different. A
lot of those women were the same or close to
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the same age as me, or like older.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
But looked like old older, And I was like, whoa,
And I think, like in certain role, it's the sun
and I want to say the son.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
And this is not a kind statement, and I'm just
going to just keep it on a hundred. Okay, a
lot of those women have black baby daddies and they're
single moms now. But sometimes I think and then they,
like my friend was telling me, a lot of the
black guys will like leave them, steal from them. I
have an announcement for white women that date outside of
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their race. Okay, let them know.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Okay, And this is already I already support this message.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Don't even know what it is yet, I'm you just
take it for me. I'm your black friend online. Okay,
maybe I'm your black friend in real life. But I
just need to I just need to be realistic with
yourself when a black guy approaches and maybe you guys
are in the dating phase and you really you know
they're great, and everything feels like it's going well. As
a white woman who dates black men, there are certain
things you have to be aware of. Does he really
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like me? Or is he using me? Am I a
place to stay? Does he have a home? Does he
have a vehicle? Does he have a job?
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Am I putting my name down on anything?
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Okay? These are the credit because that's a big one.
If you think you're in love and he has none
of the above or two of the above, and he
doesn't and he asks you to co sign, or you
notice that he's spending more than three days when week
at your house and then it turns into four, then
terms into five, and then he's moved in and the
words of Ken the man that is not your nigga
(29:30):
for real, Like, I don't want to be the bitch,
but I'm like, and then this is what happens. White
women get with the black men, they're like, we're in love,
they get babies, they put their name on things, and
then those niggas leave them and take some shit with them,
and then they're like black guys blah blah blah, I
don't date black guys. Nah, bitch, you dated the worst
black guy that there was, and you got got because
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you weren't. You didn't have a black friend to tell you, no,
he doesn't like you, he's using you, and not to
say that this is the this is the happens to
all white women. No, there's definitely genuine love is love,
and there are people fall in love. But a lot
of times, unfortunately, black men see white women and they
take advantage of you. Okay, they take advantage because they
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think you're really nice, and you probably are, but there's
such thing as being too nice. So I think that
there's a level of I noticed in this group of
friends there's literally very little black women, but there's a
bunch of white women with black kids. And I think
that sometimes you think that they're choosing you over us,
and this is just I think that there's a level
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of ignorance that you guys have that you have to
be aware of when dating outside of your race. There's
a stereo you do just like me as black women
have to be. There's a level of ignorance that I
think black women have when dating white men too. So
there's like rules and regulations around Unfortunately, because we live
(30:55):
in a society that has created these fucking these steps
operations between us and distrust between us and fetishizing between us.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Not all the time. I do believe obviously people love.
Love is love, but I think that there's things that
we both, we all parties, need to be aware of
and as blastifically, I have seen this a lot. As
your black friend, Toney, I love you, I do, I
really do. This is a safe space for you too.
It is tell me the truth. Yes, it's time for
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you to know. And if you feel triggered by this,
then you need to maybe go write the pros and
cons down, Go get your journal, write it out. Maybe
maybe dm us let us know what's going on. Let
us know what's going on. If you join Patreon, then
we can really have a full conversation. Because my time
(31:49):
does cost a little bit. It's cost ten dollars. My
time costs ten dollars so I can deep dive with
you on this in our Patreon chat. And I'm sure
there's gonna be other women too that can give you perspective.
There's a lot of women that there's a lot of
white women, brown women, black women in Patreon that have
experienced all the all of the above. And I just
want to be clear, Black women, we are not and
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we are not what it's called excluded from the fuckery
of our of our of our men as well. We
also can be dumb bitches.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Also, we can also be dumb. But I do think
we also are dumb bitches, like historically. Let's be clear
because there's a lot.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Of black single baby mom my baby mamas. But yeah,
baby mom is out here too.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
So I want to be clear, but I want to
be clear.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
But we but we have a different sort of discernment.
We are we are choosing, we are not actually choosing
to be dumb bites.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
It doesn't mean that the most important message is you're
not exempt, Stacy, Kelly, Katie, You're not exempt. This is
just this doesn't mean that this is not going to
happen to you. So don't get up, get your black
jamal and think that you're high and mighty, and you've
done the damn thing. And he and also another thing.
(32:59):
Please don't tell your black friends, Oh I got a
new guy. His name is Jamal. He's so fine and
he is a big dick. Don't do that. That is sheep.
It's going, it's taking its way back. This is how
you get cut off from your friends. This is how
you don't get help. This is how you don't get advice.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
When we are silent while we're listening to your tragic story, and.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
We're like, we're gonna let you see how that plays out.
When you start saying shit like that, we're gonna let
you see how it plays out without putting in our
two cents. But for real, you guys, you have to
date more more warely, because it's real. It's real right here.
People are predators and of all different people, and the
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stereotypes do exist, and I just want you, guys, everyone
to be aware of it.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Like, you know, what I think is like a tip
for white women who want to date black men. What
the first step in this is you need black girlfriends first.
You can't be a white woman that's dating black men
and only have white friends. Like that's just it's not
gonna work.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
I have to just to get black girlfriends. Actually, then
you're more like that. You're more likely to be a
target if you have no black friends, because Jamal is
going to be like oh perfect, no one to Warner.
He's gonna be like sh ballin because you don't have
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one Jamala or Erica to be like knock or no, no, no, no,
no no, Please don't do this because let me tell
you what Jamal's thinking. He's thinking you're stupid, bith Okay,
So that's my announcement about interracial dating for the day.
I just think that, yeah, don't think that. Just be
on your just be on your toes, keep your eyes
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peeled because a lot of times, stereotypically, I think you
think that you're like, oh, yeah, I'm the winner and
you're It doesn't necessarily work that way. You have to
have discernment when it comes to interracial dating because sometimes
there are stereotypes that make you targets. And because we're
your friends and we love you, we want you to
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know about these things.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Do we need an affirmation that supports this? Like, what
is the affirmation?
Speaker 2 (35:09):
I'm pretty sure we've already done. Don't be a dumb bitch.
So we're gonna have to do You're not exempt, Yeah,
you're not exempt. White friends need white friends that date
black guys need black friends too. Honestly, if if you
have a black boyfriend and you have no black friends
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and he doesn't think anything's wrong with that, that's a
red flag. I think it's a red flag. I think,
why do you not have any black friends and you'll
have one black boyfriend. There's just certain things. But yeah,
I think what's the affirmation. White women who date black
men need friends, White women who date black men need
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black friends. Very simple, simple.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
I can't wait to see that written out on Instagram
and see if anyone shares it.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
I've got to see the shares hate it.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
You don't have to start with the baseline is get
a black girlfriend, you know, and you know what, maybe
that goes the other way too. Black women that want
to date white men get some white friends.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
But do you think, but do you think white friends
are gonna be like, hey, babe, Dan is using you
to flaunt you around as white friends, like he's he's
fetishizing you. I think you do need white friends. I
don't know if white friends are going to warn you
the same way, but I think you need There's questions
that you asked when I dated white guys five times
I went on dates. There's questions that I asked, have
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you ever dated a black girl before? What would your
family think if you brought me home? These are like
two very important questions. I never even got that got
that far. No, I I've never ever brought a white
man home in my whole life. Wow. Never I've made
in college, like in my early twenties.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
But even like, I don't be cause I think I've
only ever been on like two dates with the white
like what the same white man ever, I've never it's
never gone past that. And even like the white like
model homeless man that I had sex with, like very
early on in our podcast.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Oh yeah, I forgot. Oh my god, was this name
like Peacock or something online or like Pete. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
He was like he was targeting black women because remember
he was in my DMS too, Yeah, he was targeting
he was on America's Next Top Model or some shit.
And then he picks me up in like this hoop
de I've never seen a hoopdie this hoop deing. I've
never been in a hoopdie that hoopedy to this hard
and he didn't even live here, he lived in.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Like where the fuck was he living? Who knows? He
was homeless?
Speaker 3 (37:49):
Anyway, we didn't even go on a date. We just
got drunk and had sex. But we never got past that.
And yeah, I don't I don't even know.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
I don't even know. I can't even give real advice.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
I think that you maybe be more well versed in
this space for this conversation.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
But I've retired from my pink meat days, but I've
never like brought him home to my family.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
My dad, Oh my god, I could only see your
dad just clowning the fuck out of.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
You back in the day, Like in like elementary junior high,
I had a white boyfriend and he clowned me. But
the most recent time he dropped actually me and this
white boy off, Remember the one I was just so
head over heels.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
For the locks.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Yeah, yeah, he ended up cutting his hair, but he
dropped me and him off at the Hollywood Bowl for
a concert. Like maybe this is more recently, I don't know,
hollewhid No, it can't be that recent. It was like
four years ago, Okay, yeah, four or five years ago.
That seems so recent. It seems like yesterday. But he
didn't talk. He was I don't know, he was just
actually nuts. But I was just he didn't say anything
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about him being white. I was just embarrassed with my
dad that day. He was just like talking shit to
me and I was like, okay. But that was like
the first time he's ever like as an adult. I've
even brought someone around him that it wasn't black. But yeah, interesting,
these are these are This wasn't supposed to be the topic. Guys.
I just want to be clear. This is just this
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is the divine just telling us what to say. This
is important, This is what needed to be said today.
This is on my heart today, this was on my spirit.
Just came through. I just channeled this. I just got
a Dowtler's talk.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
I just got a download.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
I just channeled.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
I had to let these white bitches know the etiquette
for dating a black man. I just had to come through.
Thank you most high.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
I mean because they'll stress. I mean, you'll be stressed
out and confused thinking you're in loudly stressed out and
then hate black people. You will, and this is my problem.
Then they're like I hate black guys and I don't
date black guys. Like, no, bitch, because you dated all
the wrong black guys and they aged you and now
you look fifty and you're twenty seven, and that's your fault.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
Okay, what we got here, the aging into dating black men.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
No, No, but I do think if you, if you
date the wrong black guy, or any guy for that matter,
they will, they will stress you.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
And I'm pretty sure that my ex boyfriend gave me
all the gray hairs on my head that I had.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
You and if you're white, you could have looked fifty
right now. Luckily you have God. Thank you. I'm just saying,
like you, it would be like the presidency, you know,
how you see the president before and after the term.
If you pick honestly, ay, that will happen.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
Honestly, let's just say a prayer. Thank you God for
making us black, because the amount of niggas that have
stressed me the fuck out. I should look four hundred
years old, honestly, but I don't because melanin, even if
I don't have the most of it, it still came
through for me. So thank you God, amen.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
I mean, and luckily, because sometimes it does it, you know,
it just you have to be at this age. You
have to be weary because if you let them stress
you and age you, it could go really wrong.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
And then at this point in this at this specifically
at this age, we can't allow men to stress us
out because if you're vain like me, it's dire. It's
just not an option. Like you really got to think
about your looks. You got to think about your neck
and your under eyes and those frown lines that are
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constantly being activated because you're crying at night letting these
men stress you out. If you are above the age
of thirty five and dating, you cannot allow the men
to stress you out, especially if you're white.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
Especially and also, and this is going to not sound
that kind too, but like, are you also like the
same level of fine or is he using you?
Speaker 3 (41:34):
You know, we can't just we can't just say if
you're if this is the first fine nigg you've ever
been here, I'm not saying because because even Ken the
Man said she was that Nigga's first bad bitch, Like
I don't know if.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
That's the six that's my favorite line in all of
her music, because I am that Nigga's first bad bitch.
He's gonna edit this. I mean I would agree a
so with she can. I think I'm his first bad
I mean, like, come on, maybe make a little timid
and scared. Maybe me and Erica are just delusionally conceded confident.
(42:10):
I mean when I go If I go out and
a guy who's like very not attractive talks to me
or tries to I get offended, like, come on, come
on you, why'd you come over here? I'm nice, I'm
always right.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
But I think also, because yes we're beautiful women, we're
going to hell. I think, yes, we're both beautiful women.
But I think also our personalities make us bad bitches,
and we know that.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
So that adds to the bad.
Speaker 3 (42:34):
Bitchness, which is why we're secure saying we're that niggas
first bad bitch, because not only do we look good,
but we're smart and we're fun and we do have
shit going on, and we're funding just the looks. There's
like there's like a foundation to this bad bitchery.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
It's a package.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
It's a foundation to bad bitchery. And it's not just
it looks. It's confident, it's substance. You have to have
some substance.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
There a substance, like you said, the con confidence. Yeah,
the confidence, and you know.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
You're if you can call yourself a bad bitch confidently,
because that's actually I mean, it's it is pretty like
conceited and pathological to.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
Say that about yourself.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
But also like I don't think that it's I mean
I'm a bad bitch. I'm just I'm just saying, yes, yes, yes,
I mean I call myself bad bitch all the time.
I'm just saying for most people that feel really uncomfortable
saying that even though they are. There's a lot of
bad bitches that have all the things that we have, right,
but they lack the confidence. Like they have the success,
(43:31):
they have the looks, they have the personality, but they
would never feel comfortable even saying that about themselves.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
And I understand that. I think I've just gotten to
a place where I'm confident about saying it because I
always thought that it meant like I'm I thought I
confuse it of being conceited, and I realized that that's
the that's the trick that they tell women, you know
what I mean, Like men are more allowed to be
more like both boastful and like confident about who they are.
But women, Yeah, but women are supposed to be modest
(43:59):
and humble, And you can be modest and humble, but
you can still know what the fuck it is. And
what it is is that I'm a bad bitch. And
I think that is important and that goes far. And
I think that we've been given this lie that we're
supposed to be like I'm all right, I'm okay now, bitch,
get the fuck out my way. I look good, you
know what I mean? And I and I think that
I think that we should all possess that feeling about ourselves,
(44:22):
even if I mean, even me, I'm not like the
most I'm not the video model version of beautiful. There's
every there's only a very small slither of what society
tells you it's beautiful. We're all gonna veer outside of that.
I'm not the most beautiful women in the world. However,
I think that that's all that matters. It's about like
the how you feel about yourself, how you present, and
(44:44):
the confidence that makes it go far. And I think
everyone should feel that way about themselves period.
Speaker 3 (44:51):
Maybe the affirmation is, oh, it's not, it's not.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
It can't be white part affirmation in case the first
one doesn't go as well. It goes so well.
Speaker 3 (45:03):
Take a deep breath, Take a deep breath, and repeat
after me.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
I am a bit, I am a bad bitch. I'm
a bad bitch. I'm that bitch. And if you don't
know it, move out my way like Luda.
Speaker 3 (45:21):
Well before we get out of here, bad bitch member two. Uh,
we have a hory. It's a short one. It's not
really a hooy.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
It's kind of like an.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
Advice question slash share in our discord. Okay, someone wrote
in our discord. And if you haven't joined Patreon, once
you join Patreon, you get access to our discord, which
is if you don't know what discord is, because I
think a lot of people don't really understand what discord is.
It's like an online chat community. So once you join Patreon,
you get access to Discord, which you have to download
(45:53):
the app Discord, and then you get into our server
and there's all these conversations happening, so many conversations, different channels,
different channels where you can find people in your city.
There's people sharing their whore stories, there's people sharing their titties,
there's people sharing they're venting. So there's this whole channel
just for venting.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
If you just need to.
Speaker 3 (46:13):
Get some shit off your chest that like you can't
text or say to anybody, or maybe you feel even
embarrassed that you need to say, that's the.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
Place to do it. Yeah, it's just it's a place.
Speaker 3 (46:23):
Where you can be free with your fingers. But anyway,
I just got this today from somebody in our hoary
section and it said, hey, y'all, I started having sex
with this man and I plan on doing it again
as often as possible. But he's bigger than what I'm
used to. This happened on Saturday. My neck still ain't
(46:45):
right today, lots of deep throating. Well, my neck get
used to this question, Mark, I.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
Might to say, No, I don't think so. I don't
think my neck has it. But why is it because
you're doing this? Is he pushing your head a lot?
Speaker 3 (47:05):
Or like what you got to relax, relax your neck,
relax your shoulders.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
You gotta get to be in a comfortable position.
Speaker 3 (47:12):
Yeah, make sure you're make sure that you're checking in
with your comfort while you're I think as women like
we make ourselves very will like sit in a very
we'll put our bodies in such uncomfortable positions during sex
to please the person, to please the other person because
like they're close, bit, nigga, you better we gotta start
over then because I'm uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
That doesn't make for good sex.
Speaker 3 (47:34):
No, because they because now your neck hurts.
Speaker 2 (47:37):
If one person is uncomfortable, it's just not it's not
the move.
Speaker 3 (47:41):
I also think if you haven't tapped into our girl,
Smaya's classes on Patreon, I don't know if she still
has them up and going, but she has a dick
sucking class on Patreon and I me and Mila took
it and it was very informative. Okay, like you you
you need every woman I think needs a dick sucking class.
And you have to relax. You have to like do
(48:03):
a yawn that's really a ship to open up your
to open up your throat so that you can take
more in. And it's like a like.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
An ah, I'm gonna make my own class dick sucking
for the throat chakra. It's gonna be is it gonna
be mixing healing of holing, healing and hoeing. Look out
for my digital class Healing and Hoeing dick sucking for
the throat chakra. It's gonna make you speak your mind
and open your mouth. Okay, Well when.
Speaker 3 (48:31):
That well that until that debut is go check out
her or go look it up on YouTube. Honestly, there's
probably YouTube videos about this at this point. But I
do think that it could get better. But some sometimes
a niggas dick is just big, and it's just big,
and it's not meant to fit. It's not meant to
fit all the way in. And that's okay, there's that's
(48:52):
why you have hands.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
Yeah, used a hand. Yeah, thank you for the question.
I was a good one.
Speaker 3 (49:04):
Well, I hope you guys enjoyed this episode. If you did,
and make sure you go rate and review us on Apple,
Go subscribe to our YouTube channel.
Speaker 2 (49:15):
Oh what what was he? Osborne died? I mean, I know,
I mean, I it's horrible. I feel sorry.
Speaker 3 (49:26):
I just got an alert on my phone right now.
Speaker 2 (49:29):
God, you know what's so crazy? Rest in peace, Ozzy Osbourne?
Because I watched that show growing up, but recently.
Speaker 3 (49:34):
Literally just had his last he just had his last
Black Sabbath concert.
Speaker 2 (49:39):
Ever.
Speaker 3 (49:39):
This was literally like a week and a half ago.
Because I saw a bunch of like like like rock
artists currently right now basically do the concert for him.
And he was like wheelchaired out there was he a
wheelchair for real?
Speaker 2 (49:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (49:52):
Like he's not he the drugs he was going ever
on the reality show, he was barely like barming words.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
That's why I was surprised he was still alive. I
reached I recently literally said, wow, he's still alive. Seventy six.
Oh wow, he's like he's pretty. I mean, it's old young.
I don't know what's the average rate of death these days.
I mean with all the food and the fucking heavy metals,
it's probably fucking sixty. But also I think that it
(50:21):
was like preserving him.
Speaker 3 (50:23):
He was like, no, no, no, for sure, the drugs preserve
preserve people. Like when I look at what's his name,
Mick Jagger, he has like his face is old as fuck,
but his body is like a twenty two year old
really yeah, girl, go look it up.
Speaker 2 (50:38):
I'm like, how fuck you got?
Speaker 3 (50:39):
How is your body looked twenty five and your face
looks one hundred and two.
Speaker 2 (50:42):
He's probably working out and doing drugs.
Speaker 3 (50:45):
It's almost like you can't stop doing the drugs because
if you do, you might you might actually really die anyway.
Speaker 2 (50:51):
Rest in peace, Ozzy Osboorren, Rest in peace. Yeah, and
rest in peace, Malcolm Jamal Warner.
Speaker 3 (50:57):
I know, yeah, that was really and and it breaks
my ant because it happened in our town of Costa Rica,
where we bring the ladies for the retreats. When I
heard when when they said Costa Rica, I was like, God,
please not please, not.
Speaker 2 (51:08):
Important, so please I had I had a feeling because
that's where the black people go, I know.
Speaker 3 (51:13):
And yeah, Troy told me it wasn't Cochalis, it was
pli A Chaquitha.
Speaker 2 (51:17):
Really.
Speaker 3 (51:18):
Yeah, I don't know what's what it's what's true or not,
but both those places the tide can get strong.
Speaker 2 (51:24):
Someone told me was pl Okay we go. There's a
lot of rumors going. We're gonna, we're gonna have We're
gonna when we get there, we'll be there in two days.
We're gonna be on the ground. We'll figure this out.
Speaker 3 (51:33):
We'll tell you we're gonna leave an offering in the
ocean for him because he's God. He was like, he's excellen.
It's a black legend icon like people grew up with him. Yeah,
it's just really sad. So anyway, I hug the people
you love, Tell the people you love that you love
them even when you're mad at them. And yeah, just
(51:54):
take take advantage of just appreciate every morning that God
wakes you up because it's just literally not guaranteed. Like
you just don't know. You think you're on a family
vacation and then you like the first beach you go to,
like I can only imagine, like when you're in that scenario,
you're like, this is.
Speaker 2 (52:12):
How I'm gonna go. This is it.
Speaker 3 (52:15):
That was his first day, the first day there, like
this is how, this is it, this is God, this
is this is how I'm going.
Speaker 2 (52:24):
Fuck, you just don't know, So appreciate, appreciate the present absolutely,
and and I love you and we'll see you next week. Bye.
Speaker 4 (52:37):
Yeah, I'm Lina, been so good, can't you tell? I
went through a drought. That's until I found out where
may my have been known? Art that used to be
broken tail now got the blue dance And like Beyonceasell.
Speaker 2 (52:48):
Throat shot with pop and it's cowering our voices.
Speaker 4 (52:51):
Patriarchy kept it in the box to exploited women put
the p and power.
Speaker 2 (52:55):
So what's pointless. They want me to be good, So
I made that sad mom. Not a bad mom, but
a bad mom.
Speaker 4 (53:01):
It's in on for cannabis in her bath. Bon walked
in Boston's cap and I blew his cat boss hot Dog.
Speaker 2 (53:07):
Now I'm immune to the.
Speaker 4 (53:08):
Cat called Herbie in the waisted straight to it like
a dollar sign.
Speaker 2 (53:12):
Mother, rent the lover, when to it.
Speaker 4 (53:13):
It's like a water simmer where you rent the winter
essential will when the summertime.
Speaker 2 (53:17):
I do it all. Ain't know one that needs to
run it by
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