June 18, 2025 • 53 mins
This week, the Good Moms are joined by comedian, and host of "Jess A Couple Things" podcast, Jessie Woo for a layered conversation on family, culture, ambition, and accountability.
From growing up as the oldest daughter in a strict Haitian household to finding her voice in the entertainment industry. The three chat about everything from mother wounds and cultural silence to anime porn, and Jessie's "crush" on Morgan Freeman đź‘€. It’s honest, hilarious, and might be exactly what you or a friend may need to hear.
You can expect to hear:
(04:10) Jessie shares the origins of her content career and how Haitian comedy got her noticed
(12:35) Moving to New York, losing everything, and lying her way into her first network gig
(19:00) Why saying “yes” when you’re not fully ready can change your life
(23:45) The viral moment Jessie said “my mom birthed me, but didn’t f*** with me”… and the internet backlash that followed
(31:20) How mother-daughter relationships shape adult intimacy, boundaries, and the way we receive love
(36:55) A revealing brunch with Jessie’s mom and her man that turned into an unexpected emotional breakthrough, but revealed that there is still work to do...
(44:40) Why first-born daughters are often raised, and not "loved"
(51:10)sibling resentment
(58:00) Cultural expectations for Caribbean girls vs boys and why her upbringing made her resilient, but guarded
(1:06:45) Thoughts on validation, emotional gaslighting, and the trap of performative parenting
(1:13:10) Jessie on love, faith, titties, and why Morgan Freeman might secretly be fine
(1:20:00) Bad Choice of the Week: anime porn, laptops, and kids who know too much
(1:25:15) Affirmation of the Week: “I have everything I need to be the best me this world should receive”
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and she couldn't.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
She cleaned and cared for her children and the man
of the house, and of course she didn't talk back.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
She was both obeed, hint and soft by nature.
Speaker 4 (00:12):
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Speaker 3 (02:37):
Anyway.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
I'm so excited because we have a special guest you guys, today,
we have none other than talk.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Show host actress Sanger, podcast host miss Jesse Woo woo.
Welcome to the show.
Speaker 6 (02:52):
Jazz's up, sister, how are you you look beautiful?
Speaker 1 (02:56):
I'm good, happy to be with y'all.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Yes, and we just did an episode her, so make
sure you go check us out on her podcast, because.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
We had a lot of good conversations.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
We talked about ping people's mouths, we talked about threesomes,
we talked about other mother wounds, all types of shit,
you know, and whenever you have a conversation with the
Good Moms, it's gonna be dynamic.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Yes, it was a very very good conversations. I'm excited
about this one too, period.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Bring it on.
Speaker 6 (03:19):
Just a couple of things, not just.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Right, just a couple of things.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Is my podcast just a couple of things?
Speaker 6 (03:26):
Very clever, just like vacations.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Yes, yes, vacations my trip that I take with my
sub bes. I know, I said sub like subby's what
is the su said?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
And anyone who's our audience is for sure going to
think you're talking about subs really like sub sub some
sex bitches, because that's the first thing I thought about.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
I am not I would not go to subscribers at all.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
No, it's it's like I feel like I've heard like
all the o G YouTubers they would always say that,
oh my subbies. So I'm like, when I became a YouTuber,
I was like my subbies.
Speaker 6 (03:54):
That's because Dominatrix just got big.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
You know, we need maybe we need to call our
YouTubers the subbies. Maybe if we're telling them their subbies
will do what the funk we say. Maybe if you
recognize yourselves as subbys, you will listen and actually subscribe
and right comments.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Good night, Jess, thank you for coming on our show.
Thanks for having me. All.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
We do a segment on our show called bad Choice
of the week. Have you had any bad choices this week?
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Bad mom?
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Not a bad mom, but a bad mom.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
I'm living. I had a long weekend and I didn't.
I didn't.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
I'm sorry, baby, but he wanted some and I just
kept falling asleep. But then before I caught my flight,
I made up for it. You overheard him on the
phone head he said that what you did this morning?
Speaker 6 (04:46):
I did.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
I was like, what you do?
Speaker 6 (04:48):
Man? A little morning head?
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Or so? He said that thing you did this morning?
Speaker 6 (04:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (04:53):
Yeah, Well I don't tell us what the thing is
because I need to borrow it to put it in
my books. That's the whole reason the friendship. Like what
you did so I can put it in more thing schedule?
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Well, he I would just say this, he said the
Mermaid is back, because I told him being with a
Haitian woman is like being with a mermaid siren energy.
He said the Mermaid was back.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
I said, I know that's right. Literally, Oh my god,
oh yes god, I like that. Bad choice. Just tell
(05:29):
us a little bit about you. Where is you from.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
I'm from Day motherfucking County. I'm from Miami Dade County.
I'm not from Florida.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
I am from Miami.
Speaker 6 (05:41):
I like that. You different, that's a different.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Shout out to kid Fury.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
But yeah, I grew up in Miami. But I was
born in Canada to Haitian parents. So I'm Haitian by blood.
I'm a Canada passport, Yes I do.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Actually it's expired.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
I need to girl, Yeah I know, yeah, I know,
I need to. You have both, yes, yeah, yeah. So
but I was born in Canada. I was raised in Miami.
I went to I did all my schooling in Miami. Like,
I went to college, all the way up to college,
all the way up to grad school. Shout out to
FIU Panthers, I'm a Panther. And then what do you
have to college for?
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Are you doing? Are you doing what you did went
to college for? I think, so I did. I did journalism.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
I did journalism and political science, so I knew I
was either gonna do I was either gonna do this
or like you know, be on television doing journalism, or
I was going to be a lawyer. But the l
SAT was so damn hard. I was like, oh, this
is not it.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Never Frank, Yeah, this ain't it.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
And then like trying to be a journalist in Miami,
it was hard because it was you know, if you're
not go DC, you know what I'm saying, If you not,
it was hard to get a job. So then after
I got my masters, I went to New York. And
in New York, New York was another beast. There's a
reason why they say only the strongest survive. And if
(06:54):
you if you make it in New York, you could
make it anywhere. But in New York is where I literally.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Got my first. Actually, no, when I was still in.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Miami, I used to work for a show called Generation Next.
It was on NBC six, So I was actually sideline
reporting for high school football, like Pop Warner football, high
school football.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Players who were going into college.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
So I was just trying, by any means, trying to
be a journalist. I knew nothing about football, but I
was just like okay, just taking notes as I went.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
I was like, yeah, the.
Speaker 6 (07:27):
Right and he's going you wide receive it right line?
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Yeah, yeah, like you know.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
So I would just like learn as I went, and
I got better and better. And then like when I
moved to New York, I had got my first job,
lost it. I was on food stamps, Section I was.
I was Section eight even in Miami, child I had
I had a rough. I had a rough. I had
a rough couple of years, but I was on unemployment.
I was on food stamps in New York, and I
didn't know what I was gonna do, and I just
(07:55):
started making content.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
The content took off.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
And then like I went to like this open and
like open mic night to go tell jokes and a
BT executive was there.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Literally like she asked me, She's like, hey, I'm looking
for a talent for.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
A show that we have at BT Breaks. She's like,
you know, do you write?
Speaker 6 (08:12):
And yes, I do everything.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Literally every time she asked me a question, I was
like yes, yes, yes, please, yes you say yes. So
that was my first like major network on screen job
was BT Breaks.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
I love that you said that.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
You said yes because I think a lot of times
we're so free to like not have the credentials, and
that will be like, well, it's a lot of explaining
that starts to happening.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Well, you know, I.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Sort of later, Yeah, I think literally that is literally
the only reason maybe you are successful. Listen, we delied,
the denied. We lied our way to the time period.
I don't even lie, we just we just have delusional.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
Lie.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
We lied a little bit like when I used to
work in corporate Do you know Excel? Yes, you know,
I was a copy and patient.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Bitch.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
I don't know, no, no shit, I don't know what
you think.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Google's for in this day and age. You say yes
to everything, bitch, tragedy. You even got to Google YouTube,
university ship. They will write it out for you.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
The script applies for all the jobs, even if you
have no background.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
In any of it. Period.
Speaker 6 (09:15):
So yeah, when was the first content that you created?
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Actually?
Speaker 1 (09:19):
So I was more focused on like Haitian comedic stuff.
And I remember there was one video where I was like.
Speaker 7 (09:27):
Oh my god, every time I go to mcdonnad, the
machine is always booking to go get ice cream or whatever,
and that kind of circulated a lot, which is funny
because I'm about to work with McDonald's for the first time.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Yes, okay that's eight.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Years later circle, But yeah, that was my first piece
of content. But I used to do always like Haitian accent, Haitian.
And then I was like, okay, I kind of want
to do more everyday commentary, like, you know, because I
have an opinion, I say a lot. You know, sometimes
people agree, people don't, but still I will still have
a little comedic comedic side or whatever I do. But
(10:06):
my first content that was like very Haitian, very Haitian centric, creole,
heavy accent. That's how people got to know me.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
First of all, how do you how do you deal
with the people that don't fuck with what your opinions are?
Speaker 5 (10:19):
Oh, especially as a sensitive ass cancer because I feel
out the cancer, I'm always thinking about other people.
Speaker 6 (10:24):
Like that was a nice I shouldn't.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Say, Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Being Haitian, I come from a very rough background and
like I think, as a woman, you're not supposed to
have an opinion. You're not supposed to say things that
people don't like. And from the start, from the very beginning,
when I was doing like the Haitian comedy, like there
would be like you know, hashtag don't fuck with Jesse
Woo or we don't fuck with you like I've always
(10:51):
I'm always being reminded by especially like that community that
they don't fuck with me whatever, which is cool. I've
never asked anybody to fuck with me, whether you're in
that community or not. But I think, like in the beginning,
I think things would be very hurtful, and then I
realized that I have never had an encounter with someone
in public that wasn't positive. Every time I'm in public,
(11:15):
it's always a positive interaction. For the last eight years
that I've had a platform, every encounter I have in
person with folks, it's always positive. So that's why I'm
just like, I'm not gonna let comments online get to me.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Like people will say things.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
The only thing that I have a tough time with
is like not clapping back. I feel like sometimes because
you have a platform and people feel like they know you,
they can talk to you a certain way, and it's like,
why do you think you could talk to me like that?
Speaker 6 (11:46):
Like bitch, I talk back in these comments?
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Well then you talk back and they be like I
love you. Oh I love you. Oh my bad.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Like especially now too that I have a man, sometimes
I'll tag him like, oh my bad, bruh, what what
are we doing? Like, so it's just weird. So I
think it's just that's my mindset. It's like, I don't
let it get to me because I know when I'm
outside it's always hey Jesse, hey sister, it's always positive.
So yeah, so that doesn't bother you. We talked a
little bit about this on your on your show about
(12:20):
sometimes needing the valid the validation from the people that
we love the most, aka our parents, our family coming
from not coming until they hear someone else validate us.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
And I know you've talked, and I know you've talked
candidly about your relationship with your mom and how challenging.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Support. But I got some backglass for that.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
You know, people get really We had we had someone
on our show called Slumflower.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
I don't know if you're familiar with her.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
She's amazing and she that episode was called The Mother Wound,
and she was talking about cutting off her mom and
how it was the best decision she's ever made and
that her mom just mentally abused her for years and
she was like, it was the best thing I've ever
done for myself. And people were so upset about her
protecting herself.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Yeah, yeah, and people get very triggered around that.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Like I just it's so interesting to me, I mean,
even as a mother myself, Like if your parent or
anybody is affecting your mental health abusing you, why on
earth would you.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Keep this person in your life? Literally? And I don't
know what is what is the relationship you have with
your mother? Now? Is it?
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Like do you guys communicate it all? And like growing up?
I guess maybe let's start with growing up. What was
your relationship like? And like at what age did you
realize because in the clip you said, I just feel
like she didn't like me.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
I said, you birthed me, but you didn't fuck with me.
You didn't fuck with me, yeah, which is basically that.
And I think that people think that that was me
saying like my mom hates me. My mom doesn't hate me.
My mom does love me. But I feel that just
because you love someone doesn't mean that you like them.
(13:53):
And my mom has never told me she doesn't like me.
But I know my mother, like I know what I
feel and It's funny because I've spent like eight years
telling the world that my daddy was a crackhead, and
nobody budgets, Like that's fine, nobody budget. I can tell
the entire with my daddy was a crackhead, and I'm like, oh,
one thing about Jesse, she gonna let us know how.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Daddy was aead. But the moment I said something about
my mother.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Oh, you're you're horrible. You're you're horrible. You're supposed to give.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Grace, who said I haven't given grace, who said I
have to Yeah, oh that you need to go through
a therapist, who said I haven't been a therapy, right,
Nigga is my mom? They literally so I think I
think they're just like I said in the clip, there
need to be more spaces for people to talk about
mother wounds, because the same way people who lunch at
(14:46):
me in the comments. You don't think I experienced that
from family members. You don't think I experienced that from
loved ones when they when I've said certain things. You
don't think I've experienced that from my mother herself, Like
when I when I vocalize, hey this is how I feel, Hey,
this is what you did no, no, no, you know
what I mean, Like it's always because it's your mother,
And I get it, like moms make the world go round,
(15:08):
like mothers are matriarchs. Like I remember one time, this
is so like random, but niece Nash had this one
line on the Bernie Mac Show and she's like, tity
feed the world, and that's like mothers, Like mothers feed
the world, titty feed the world. Like so I get it,
Like we have to protect our mothers.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
I get that. But I think a lot of us
have mother.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Wound, especially those of us who are first born, especially
those of us who are firstborn of an immigrant family,
Like you know, especially those of us who are first
born and then you're the daughter, and then you see
the difference between like the treatment of the sons versus
the daughters. Like I think that there need to be
conversations for that. And yes there was people lunging at me,
(15:52):
but there were so many comments or I got so
many dms thanks for saying that, I could never say it.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
I can't thank you.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Like some of us are grieving, it's like her Mother's Day,
Like we're grieving not because our mothers are dead, but
because we did not have our mother's the way.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
The way you see the Instagram captions on Instagram from
you know, or even.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Like other friends, or even like other family members, Like
I have a cousin of mine who, like I was
always jealous of her relationship with her mother, and her
mother looks just like me. If you see her mom,
you'll think she's my mom. Their Haitian too, Yeah, she's
her mom, is my mom's sister.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
That's interesting because you would think because when I hear
you talk about your mom, I'm sorry that.
Speaker 6 (16:35):
Cuts you off your story.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
No, oh, when you think about like when you've entered
that intro that story, I was thinking, like thinking that
mo like a lot of times. She probably wasn't taught
how to mother of course, so she's just dealing. She's
just like doing whatever she thinks is motherhood. Yeah, but
it's interesting, especially because that's you know, Caribbean parents. But
if her sister is from the same household that she's from, right,
(16:59):
and it's showing up in a different way, then it
makes you like, damn, what the fuck is what happened?
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (17:04):
What parenting? Did you get?
Speaker 7 (17:05):
Well?
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Different? I mean then we talked about that a lot too.
Is that that a lot of times.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
That's what happened, is like you see siblings come out
of the same household, but they have very different experiences.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Yep, and that's that.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
It's like socioeconomic experiences, the time, the relationship that your
mother was in at the time, whatever it might be,
and we assume that it's going to be the same.
You and your siblings have the same shared experiences and
it's not are your siblings Do your siblings?
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Your siblings have a similar experience of you.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Oh no, They're like, I'm the oldest of four and
I can tell you now, we have four different experiences
I think, just like, for instance, like my brother Daremi,
he's my mother's favorite. Like and she'll never say that,
but I remember one time we were all at dinner
and I think it was like Mother's Day and it
was years back, but the subject came up, like you know,
(17:55):
you have a favorite child.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
She's like, no, no, I don't have a fan with no,
but I don't have that.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
And we all said Jeremy and Unison, like we all said,
everybody knew Jeremy.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
What how does Jeremy feel about that?
Speaker 6 (18:06):
Is he the baby?
Speaker 3 (18:06):
No, Jeremy's a second born.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Jeremy's a second born, but I think Jeremy always knew that,
like you know, when you're the mom's favorite, you know,
when you're able to do everything. But also I think that, yeah,
we all had very different experiences.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
But I think me being the oldest.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
I think I was just I was used as a
resource a lot, Like I was a resource, and.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
I mean, I pick up your brother from school, Go
do this, go do that. Yeah, I was not responsible.
Speaker 6 (18:39):
You didn't do it. If you didn't clean the house,
I don't know how to do all that.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Yeah oh yeah, yeah, yeah you didn't yeah oh yeah,
like definitely. And then I do feel that, you know,
I just got I got a very harsh version of
my mom, and then Jeremy got like half of that.
And then by the time she remarried and she had
my last two siblings, it was totally different. Like it
just John he was able to do so many things
(19:06):
like my and then by the time Jonie was born,
she got she got the world handed to her like
And I think I have a little bit of maybe
sibling jealousy a little bit because I feel like I
showed when I look back at my childhood, I showed
signs of a lot of talent, like very very early,
(19:27):
and none of that was invested in. But then I
saw other children be invested in. And but then what's
crazy is if you look at all of us, the
children that got the most ended up doing the least.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Yeah, because they've never had some they didn't have to,
ended up doing the least.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
I remember when I went and got my masters, Jeremy was.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Like, damn, Jess, we don't see you master some She yes,
you know, And I can't tell you one degree that
my siblings have, but they saw me do everything, and
then they even see what I'm doing now, and I mean,
I've always just figured it out.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
I was like that, I just was.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
I feel like I was that child that was that
baby that was just thrown in water and I just
had to like swim and everybody else was.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Like, okayh go paddle board and here go.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
And I'm like, damn, y'all got it easier and I
had it the worst and I've done the most.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
So do you think that some of that is because
of a you had to be resourceful and be maybe
perhaps there was like a need to impress. Was there
any was there like a want to impress your mother,
where they didn't have to do that because it was
already kind of given to them.
Speaker 6 (20:36):
Hmm.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
I don't know if it was a want to impress.
I had no choice, like I'm Haitian, like I had
like Haitian women, Haitian girls, you have no choice. You
have to be successful, like there's no choice, and like
in a Haitian household, I think that the girls are raised,
the boys are loved, Like it's a very different dynamic.
(21:03):
Every now and then you'll see a mother that's more
loving or you know, with her daughter, But most of
the time it's like I think that in the Haitian culture,
women are raised to be prepared for a very tough world,
and that's what my mom did.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
I'm very thankful to her.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
For that because the things I experienced with her, I
think she definitely got me ready for this mago world
we ain right now, Like she got me ready for that,
and I feel like I will always soar Like there's
been times in life that I've lost everything and I'm like,
it's okay, because I'm going to get it all back
plus more because I feel like that's how she raised me.
(21:40):
But yeah, I just feel like that's just kind of
like the nature of raising the girl versus the boy.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
You having this conversation with you, it just makes me
realize like the protection, Like just thinking about the backlash
that Sunflower got in our show, the backlash that you've
gotten for saying that out loud. Even my husband fiance
doesn't contact his mom and I was with my mom
and her friend, and I like mention that and like,
I'm in a really healthy relationship. I'm really happy, and
(22:08):
like she's like houses like she was his mom, Like
he doesn't talk to her, and they're like, oh, like
you need to.
Speaker 6 (22:11):
Worry about that.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
You need to you know, and I and I and honestly,
prior to this relationship, I would think the same thing
because even for me, I've had very up and down
relationship with my mom and there's been times where I've
taken a big step back and taken like months off,
Like so, I'm gonna let you deal with you because bitch,
you're talking to me like a bitch on the street
and this is not gonna work. But never being like
(22:33):
I will cut you off completely, I've never been there
because I'm a cancer. I'm gonna always forgive I'm not
gonna forget, though, but I do. Even yesterday I went
to Mother's Day lunch and I brought up something about
my childhood and just like, no, that didn't happen. And
I'm like, I've already learned like not to have these conversations.
But I do think that there is a huge level
(22:55):
of lack of accountability for mothers because we do do
so much because we birth, because we raised, because we sacrifice,
because we're trying to figure it out most of the time.
Like there is this I see with my parent, that
there is just complete lack of accountability, like you are
not even listening to shit I have to say, Like specifically,
(23:15):
one time I was telling her, like I had an
abortion in high school and I didn't tell her.
Speaker 6 (23:18):
I tried not to tell her, but.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
The school called and told them that I missed school.
Speaker 6 (23:22):
So this she had to end up picking me up
from planned parenthood.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Lord, and you didn't catch a bus or nothing. Girl,
I was fucking anesthesia out, Lord have mercy, So she
picked me up.
Speaker 6 (23:33):
Child.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
I was not expecting to picking me up there my
homegirls and pick me up. But all this had happened
while I was in the fucking planned parenthood all day
and she called she I remember, she picked me up
and cursed me out all the way home and was like,
basically like, you threw your baby in the trash.
Speaker 6 (23:47):
You'll probably kill me for repeating this, but it's the truth.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
Yeah, And I brought it up one time and she
was just like, I didn't say that, And I'm like, bitch,
you think I would make How the fuck would I
remember this particular line right fucking twenty years later, And
so even last night, it was something stupid about like
how much I was in that like how much I
was the oldest kid and did so much around the house.
Speaker 6 (24:08):
It's like, no, you didn't I cleaned your room. I'm like, girl,
what the fuck are you talking about? But I realized,
I'm like, we.
Speaker 5 (24:14):
Give moms a level of like delusion. We allow mothers
to have a level of delusion that allows them to
live in this fucking world they made up. And even
as a mom, I recognize that, like, there's going to
require for me to take accountability in the way that
I parent, And when I have another kid, I'm gonna
be a different parent because I'm in a different position.
I'm a different person I'm a different relationship, and like
there is such a like I think as mothers and
(24:36):
as as we're having this conversation, it's important, like no
matter where you're at in the stage, even if you're
fifty eight, mom, like it takes like listen to your
child and take accountability.
Speaker 6 (24:46):
And say, like I fucked up.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
It's okay if you're not a perfect mom, because we
don't have the blueprint, we don't have the rule book.
We don't fucking know what we're doing, and a lot
of us are making this shit up, and so if
you fuck up.
Speaker 6 (24:58):
It's okay.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
But please, for the love of God, listen to the
experience your kids have to take acknowledgment and be like, damn,
maybe I was fucked up in these places, maybe I
was hurting and that I couldn't.
Speaker 6 (25:09):
Give you this, so that you're not fucking gaslighting me.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
And then I'm not resentful and annoyed because immediately that
conversation started and I was like, I just I've learned
to just shut the fuck up.
Speaker 6 (25:16):
I'll just look at you.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Yeah, but I really just check out too.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
Yeah, Like, especially black people, like there's this undying loyalty
to mothers like you can abuse me, you could hurt me,
you could talk crazy to me, and I'm supposed to
just love you and not fucking talk about it. And
I think that kind of prepares when you do that
to your kids, it preps them, without your knowing subconsciously,
to be in like violent relationships.
Speaker 6 (25:37):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (25:38):
And then you're true, you accept gas lighting from relationships
and lovers that you're with because you're like, my mom
lies to me all the time.
Speaker 6 (25:43):
It's fine.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
How would you say your relationships have been influenced by
the way you were loved by your mother? I mean,
I haven't really had many relationships, and maybe that's why
I had a lot of situationships and you know, situation
that almost became relationships.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
But I will say I call him mister Eastern.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
But Jay, when he met my mother for the first
time last year, he was so nervous and he and
I just I had not told him a lot because
it's like, you know, he has he has his mother wounds,
but him and his mom have such a healthy relationship.
His mother actually has validated a lot of his feelings
(26:28):
and stuff.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
And I'm like, damn, I wish I had that.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
But then like we meet for a brunch and my
mom looked at him, and you know, we sat down
and she just burst into tears.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
Like he asked her, He's like.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Can you tell me about He's so inquisitive. My man
loves he loves to ask you questions.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
He loves to talk. He wants to understand.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
He's like, so tell me about Jesse. Tell me about Jess,
Like how was she growing up? And how's and like
my mom is like two words in and then she's
just like burst into tears. Like I'm like, I'm trying
to have chicken and waffles.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
What's going on? Like you know what I mean? Mimosas
is flawing, what's happened?
Speaker 1 (27:04):
She usually that emotional, My mom's emotional, but not like that,
Like she burst into tears and then she was just
I'm paraphrasing, but she was saying that I made a
lot of mistakes with you. I'm just perfect. But she's
like I made a lot of mistakes with her. I
made a lot of mistakes with her, and like she
just was like letting it all out with him, and
(27:25):
I just remember being so upset. I'm like, you ain't
never said this to me, You've never said this to me,
So why are you saying.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
It to him? Like you're looking at him and it's like.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
I did this and I did that, and it's like, girl.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
You just met this man. I'm fifty seven and you
ain't never said this shit to me, you know what
I mean. Like, so it's just like I know it's
in there.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
I know you have it in there, but for whatever
the reason, you haven't said that to me. And until
you say it to me, I can't accept it. I
can't really lease that. Like I in my mind like
I'm not gonna be I don't hate my mother like
I love my mother, but I feel like my feelings
are valid and just like you said, it's like it's
(28:12):
this thing of well this, this didn't happen like this,
what about what you did?
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Because you did.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
So it's just like until then, I don't I have
to kind of just express myself how I can, which
is whether it's a therapist. But also when I introduce
that conversation, I'm like, dang, it's a lot of girls
out there. Who's a lot of women out there who
have mother wounds who want to talk about it. I'm like,
maybe maybe I can create that safe place I don't know.
(28:38):
Maybe I'll go on to a mother wound's tools, do
a mother wound's retreat like something, because I feel like
a lot of women have that. And it's not that
we hate our mothers. It's not that we don't like
our mother's it's not that we want to see our
mothers dead like no, it's that like we have wounds
that we want to release and we want to heal from,
and we don't want to pass that on to our daughters.
(29:00):
My biggest fear in life is having kids and them
hating my guts.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Seriously, Well, I think.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Just knowing being that self aware is already you're combating that,
even that that possibility even happening. I think people like,
if you can't even acknowledge the things that have happened
to you or the way that your mother has, then
there's then of course you're gonna keep passing keep passing
it on. Yeah, yeah, so I think And I feel
bad too, even like going back to my man, like
(29:30):
he wants that whole, you know, So I hope we
can get to that, Like when we're around each other,
it's great, but it's just like I can.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Only do certain things for so long. Like it's like, Okay,
we there's a conversation that needs to happen, and there's
a way it has to happen. And if it don't
happen like that, I can't move forward in a way
I want to move forward to. But until then, we
come on down.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
We can have you no mimosas we can't have chicken
and while phones and we an hour and thirty minutes. Yeah, right,
so yeah, And also I think we're also in a
in an era where we have been given you know,
with the internet makes.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Us sound so old.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
You know, we got the internet right with the Internet
and technology right Microsoft word that is, we have we
have access to understanding and like to work to language
that like makes us gives us like perspective into our childhoods,
Like that wasn't normal.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Right.
Speaker 5 (30:30):
I watched a lot of family matters and she never
said that to her, do, right, you know what I mean? Like,
there's a lot And we're also in the era of
like speaking about it, talking about it being a wound,
and like talking about therapy, talking about mental health, talking
about going to a fucking retreat. And even in our
like really retreat business, we've seen a few mom and
daughters come together really and it's been really healing just
(30:52):
to observe and just the fact that they're willing to
do that and be vulnerable with their kids in adulthood.
Because I was thinking about what you said, and I realized, like,
even with me, to my mom, I there's certain relationships,
there's certain things that I can be really kind hearted
and warm and soft with people that I don't know
very well.
Speaker 6 (31:09):
But when it comes to my own family, like I.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
Support people, I support women all year long, but then
becames to my mom, I'm like, yeah, because you got
that wound. Yeah, and it hurts too much. It's too
it's too much. I can't show up like sometimes I do.
Maybe if I smoke a joint first, I'm like, oh
my god, I love you.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
It's okay, you know, but I think I'm gonna start
doing a little crack with my daddy. Maybe maybe I'll
do a little cracked first.
Speaker 5 (31:32):
It's just a little pink Molly.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Little pink crack that they were talking about in the
Diddy Trip.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Maybe I could.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
That's Allercy.
Speaker 6 (31:40):
Don't do that, Oh, don't do it, Okay, I did
that once. Not pink cracker. Not the pink crack, don't
do it, don't do it.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
No, but also too, and just one last thing I
want to say too, is I hate when like people
share like parent wounds or mother wounds and it's like,
but you.
Speaker 6 (32:00):
Only got one mama.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
I know, I know, I came out of one Kouchie,
I know that, but still, like I still want to
be able to either talk about.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
These feelings or be able to resolve them.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
And again, like there are spaces that need to be
held for other people, Like you'd be surprised, Like how
y'all said, Like you'll be surprised stuff that you guys.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Share on your podcast.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Y'all are out here freeing bitches, like you know what
I mean. Like I want to free bitches too from
like whatever wounds they have, like and let people know
like you're not by yourself, Like well.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
I think too, Like we're always talking about just like
childhood and everything goes back to childhood, So how the
fuck am I supposed to heal if I'm not allowed
to talk about the darkest parts of my childhood.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
And sometimes it is the mom. So yeah, we're used
to the dad.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Like yeah, it's like for the women specifically, but the mother.
Thing is like, oh that's the whold.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Wo wo wo? Right, but who took care of you?
You alive? She pushed you out her pussy?
Speaker 6 (33:03):
But did you guys to be grateful?
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Bills was always were you hungry?
Speaker 4 (33:07):
Right?
Speaker 3 (33:08):
If you was your daddy there? Right? What you say
to his ass? Right? Like you can't have no qualms.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
With this, with this bitch, because this nigga did the
worst of the worst of the worst.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Yeah, you know it's crazy too.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
I'm sorry. Just one last thing.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Mister Easton met my daddy, right, and he meets my
dad and he says the same thing, So tell me
about Jessica growing up?
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Mind you. I told my.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Man my dad was hardly there, but I don't know
if he was so excited to meet my father.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
So he's like, tell me about Jessica. How was she grown?
Speaker 1 (33:36):
And my dad starts lying through his body, Oh, she
was such a good daughter and she was so smart.
And I said, that's why I went.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
I was like, nigga, you were not there. He's like
almost choked. It's like, wait a minute, I thought we
was protecting a good time. Why would you ruin this moment?
Are you gonna ruin this.
Speaker 6 (34:01):
Moment, Yes I am, but the truth weren't there.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
Yeah, crazy.
Speaker 6 (34:05):
Did he react negatively after he said that.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
He No, damn well, he was a damn ball. How
daddy doing now? Is he has? He's fine, he looks good.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
He got him a white girlfriend. White women love Haitia
Man in Canada. So my daddy all one thing about him.
He always gonna have something to fall back on, and
that's white women. That's white women.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
Okay, that's so interesting, you know because my mom growing
up used to tell me that, uh, my dad like
Asian women, and he does.
Speaker 6 (34:36):
My mom has very chinky eyes. I don't know if
I'm supposed to.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Say that, if that's I've been told that I have.
Speaker 6 (34:40):
Chinky eyes, I don't think chinky were supposed to say that.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
But okay, I'm sorry, you know, I'm sorry. No Asian hate.
And I mean, but my mom he was.
Speaker 5 (34:47):
Like cheat with Asian women, and she would fucking hate
Asian women, like Tilla says. She'd be like making derogatory terms.
It's like super traumatic. But now that I grow up,
I think, like one time my dad like brought a
bitch around. First of all, I have like inherent so
much jealousy because of my mother, but also like but nigga.
Speaker 6 (35:03):
What the fuck is this bitch around?
Speaker 5 (35:06):
And I just realized, like as an adult, as a
black woman, I'm looking at him like so sideways, like.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Nigga, you got together.
Speaker 6 (35:14):
Yeah, like what the fuck are you?
Speaker 5 (35:16):
Like you put in talking shit about black women, then
you go to this fucking mediocre Asian bitch. I'm just
so confused, Like it really makes me put in like
a different perspective of my father, like as a black woman,
and you're talking about black women about weaves and this
and that, and like even growing up couldn't wear no weave.
Then black black women this, but then you go over
to this other bitch like they.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
Can be as medio.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
I've saw a white woman say that on TikTok too.
Oh she went on TikTok and she was like, my
black father got the most mediocre white woman. She's my
mom and she's like, and no shade, but it's true.
Like black men will literally say all that shit about
black women and then when they go the beach life,
Fiona from Shrey literally but you gotta you gotta have
(35:59):
tire banks over here, like you know what I'm saying,
I'm so really.
Speaker 6 (36:03):
In my adulthood, it made me really changed my perspective.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
I'm your father, and I'm like, I just I can't
understand it.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Yeah, I think, and even to depending on their upbringing,
to like I said, in Canada, it's a thing like
a lot of Haitian men up there are with white women.
It's just like a thing. I don't know what that is.
I think depending on whatever your geographical situation, maybe what
the whiteness brings to your life, you know, is.
Speaker 6 (36:29):
That what the whiteness brings to your life?
Speaker 1 (36:30):
No, I'm just saying like it might be that. And
and I think a lot of people don't understand. Racism
is huge in Canada too, Like you know, my mom
was called the N word, you know. Like so I
think sometimes too, it's kind of like, okay, if I
get a little bit this whiteness.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Actim, yeah, there's a status. There's a status. And also
like you become a safer black Yeah. Yeah, it's it's
so weird when when.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
You walk into a room with a white woman, you're oh, okay, good, right,
you're good.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
You walk in with another black woman, They're like, yeah,
what they you have to do? I it's weird.
Speaker 5 (37:00):
I just feel like my parents are so black power too,
Like I was raised so pro black that, and as
an adult, I'm like, who the fuck are you?
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Like?
Speaker 6 (37:08):
Who are you? Do you hate yourself? Okay, maybe he's
having a mid life prices.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Yeah, okay, well sorry, I'm telling me my daddy met
missus and was like white.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
But I gotta I got you. Yeah, you want to
meet my new white bitch on the internet today about
Lil Wayne and.
Speaker 5 (37:29):
Wait, I was somewhere and I'm so happy you brought
it up because I was watching it on silent and
I really wanted to turn the volume on.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
But he's been dating this girl. I think her name
is Denise something. She's a been model. I think she
might be Latina. I'm not sure she's been They've been
dating for a long time. I remember when they first
got together because she had a career, like she was
like a very popular plus size model Sports.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Illustrated, And I was like, how this happen?
Speaker 3 (37:51):
How did this happen?
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Okay, whatever I've done forgot about their relationship. Blah la
la fast forces. Today I get on the internet, she's
talking about wank me and my daughter out the house
on Mother's Day. This is diabolical all and and he's
out here about to fly in this white girl, this
white bitch from l A or trying her to LA
to come hang out with him.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
And then I saw the white woman that he was
flying in. Girl. They showed him. Can can I see it? Please?
Speaker 6 (38:20):
You know I couldn't watch it on the sound, but
I look at.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
I said, have like what he.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
He got that little Louisiana dick, that brutal.
Speaker 5 (38:32):
Yeah, he got the little niggas be having that dick.
Sometimes you got that all your readers, the short kings.
Speaker 6 (38:38):
You have to when you was that little. It's a
long dick.
Speaker 5 (38:41):
Yeah, it has to be, which is also always usually digmatization.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
It's no, it's a digmatization.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
My only thing was I did have an instance where
I did do a short man, but he did, but
it just when we when it was time to spoon,
I can't.
Speaker 5 (38:57):
When I was I was folding underwear and I could
fit his small shirts.
Speaker 6 (39:02):
And I'm already a very petite woman.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
I know, I love.
Speaker 6 (39:05):
Sex foot tall, but I am.
Speaker 5 (39:07):
I was like, this has tall your man now at
six feet yeah, he's not.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Mine is six three. I got it well, let him
tell it. It's he's six fool.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
Yeah, I like a little love. You gotta have a
little Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
He's tall and I can wear my my my nine
inch twelve inch heels and I ain't gotta worry about Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
But I also thought that the girl too said she
said something about DV. Didn She said that Lil Wayne
allegedly that he hit her or something like that.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
Yes, said that he had little niggas also be hitting.
I can't find it. Oh here it is here.
Speaker 5 (39:39):
You're fucking lying, I know you fucking line.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
Okay, yeah, okay.
Speaker 6 (39:48):
Here wait, wait, hold on, let me hold ahead.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
Look at it.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
Ah, the one in the center, that's the main girl,
that's the one of the last.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
Put the glasses. Yes see whatever you just said.
Speaker 5 (40:02):
Yes, that looks like somebody is Grandma Mom from the PTA.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Anyway, Kings, do better.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Okay, before we get out of here, I want to
play a little game that it's called trigger. So I'm
gonna say a word and you say the first thing
that comes to mind. Oh, don't overthink it, just go
for it. Ready, I'm ready, bad habits, I.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
Drew a blank. Procrastination marriage a sap A sap. Are
you ready for mister Easter. How'd y'all meet?
Speaker 1 (40:42):
We met Actually he was on a press tour for
his documentary. He has documentary called Freaknickout that it went.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Viral last year, and I was his last press stop.
I was on destination. I was his last press stop,
and we changed numbers.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
We actually used to live in the same building. He
told me that we met several times in the elevator.
I was like, damn, I never I didn't remember. The
guy used to just be like hey, and I just
put my head down.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
I still do that.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
And then so like he was like, you know, let's
exchange numbers. I love to know what you got going on.
I love to, you know, maybe work on something cool.
And then like we had a meeting and everything was putonic.
But I remember when I left the meeting, I just
was like hmm. And I had text him that week
like I was like, hey, what are you doing like
Easter weekend and He's like, oh, I'm going to church.
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And I wanted to ask him if I would go
to church with him, but I thought it was weird.
Then he asked me, so we went to church together
for Easter.
Speaker 6 (41:37):
We went to date, very very cute.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
Church brunch and we've been together ever since.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
That's a story you could tell the kids. Wholesome. Yeah,
which leads me to my next word, religion. Oh, relationship
instead a relationship, a relationship with Christ, monogamy, love and
hip hop.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
Hated it, hated it? Uh, last time you had sex
this morning?
Speaker 6 (42:15):
Amen?
Speaker 3 (42:16):
Porn category b b W.
Speaker 6 (42:22):
BBW big black woman?
Speaker 3 (42:24):
Yeah really? Or or you know, I want to know
when I.
Speaker 6 (42:28):
Wanted the Asians?
Speaker 3 (42:29):
Really? Who? Why would you do that? Example?
Speaker 6 (42:33):
I was literally like, I was like, what.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
Categories between the changing and what? So is it they
are they getting by a specific race?
Speaker 3 (42:44):
Or is it's just Asians?
Speaker 1 (42:46):
So so this is gonna sound crazy, but I mean
I don't watch it right now at the moment. It's
been a while, but I used to watch a lot
like anime porn.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
Like it was like it was like.
Speaker 6 (42:57):
And tie and you know that when you I want
I'm like, what's going on? Oh?
Speaker 1 (43:04):
I just thought it was funny, like it was entertaining.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
That was Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
Wait, speaking of which, I'm going to just interject her
real quick about my bad choice of the week. Bitch,
my it was the of anime porn. So I had.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
I don't know I had. I was watching Oh we
have separate hotel rooms. I don't know, we have separal
tail rooms.
Speaker 6 (43:25):
I was in Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (43:26):
I was at Atlanta. Yeah, I'd been watching porn in
my computer.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
I get home back to LA and my daughter is like, Mommy,
I have to do an assignment.
Speaker 3 (43:34):
Oh, I need to use your computer. And I was like, okay.
I hand her my computer.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
We're on the couch together and she opens the computer
and then she closes it and she hands it to
me and goes, mommy, you have to put your password in,
and then she walks away.
Speaker 3 (43:47):
So I'm like, okay, so I open it.
Speaker 6 (43:49):
I'm like, why was the password partner?
Speaker 3 (43:52):
I don't know, but it.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
Was open and it was like, you know, the ad
page for porn. So it's like every type of porn,
all different types of anime. The was all tights, and
I was like, pink, big yellow, big black, dick, just
all dick, monkey dick.
Speaker 6 (44:06):
Wait, but usually you have to put the password to
see anything.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
It was the jaw like, I know, we didn't what
are you gonna say?
Speaker 6 (44:20):
Pop ups? Yeah done, mommy, you put your password.
Speaker 3 (44:25):
So that was my choice. Of the Week.
Speaker 6 (44:27):
Did you avoid her for one hour?
Speaker 3 (44:29):
No?
Speaker 2 (44:29):
She came right back in and I said, okay, it's here,
here's the word the document. I was screaming, love language, oh, affection,
quality time.
Speaker 3 (44:44):
Morgan Freeman? Was he ever young? I thought this was crush?
This is not your crush?
Speaker 6 (44:51):
More than.
Speaker 3 (44:59):
Where the fu? Great?
Speaker 5 (45:02):
I was really wondering, why, Wait, what did I say
that I'll be saying. I was like, I've never seen
Morgan Freeman on them.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
Now, now I will tell you I've said a crush
of mine before, and I've got dragged for it every time.
Speaker 6 (45:15):
Who it wasn't Freeman?
Speaker 1 (45:17):
Wasn't It was Dave Chappelle, and people like he ugly.
Speaker 3 (45:21):
I'm like, no, it's not. I thought he would laugh
me out my drawers.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
I love you a funny man.
Speaker 6 (45:27):
Does he like black women?
Speaker 3 (45:29):
He's with an Asian?
Speaker 6 (45:30):
Sorry Mam, sorry mom, I've never seen Dave Chappelle. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
I feel like Dave Chappelle could get it if I
wasn't in a relationship.
Speaker 3 (45:40):
I love my man, Jesse will talk her. Morgan Freeman crush?
What what did I say? Show? What the fuck was
I thinking? Or something?
Speaker 7 (45:54):
No? No?
Speaker 1 (45:54):
No, Yeah, he has a show you to Morgan Freeman.
Speaker 3 (45:59):
Forget like that daddy porn. Okay, he was never young.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
In one movie he played in Young the other side,
there's this, there is this.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
There's this docu series on Apple right now with black actors,
all the famous black actors that you could think of
the Denzels.
Speaker 3 (46:19):
That it just elbows. And then they go to Morgan Freeman.
They put up his first movie. This motherfucker had white hair.
Speaker 6 (46:23):
First move. Maybe he started late. He might be a vampire.
Speaker 3 (46:26):
Maybe he started late.
Speaker 6 (46:28):
He's a vampire.
Speaker 3 (46:28):
This is this is just a proof that you can
start your career.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
And he's killed it as the older man and his
voice is distinct, is very distinguished.
Speaker 3 (46:39):
Uh, deal breaker?
Speaker 6 (46:40):
Cheating really okay one time?
Speaker 1 (46:44):
Not for like Miami, no, no, one time. Yeah, so
I would find out. I found out after the.
Speaker 3 (46:50):
Facts, like after what's cheating to you? He slept with
somebody else?
Speaker 2 (46:55):
In general? Though, like what is cheating? Would be like
texting e bitch and like on the low, like is
it is there emotional cheating that you might pass.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
I feel like if I catch you texting somebody dust cheating,
like I'm done?
Speaker 3 (47:07):
What the you texting her? Toxic? Trait. Oh, passive aggressiveness
to Braxton hater.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
Okay, that's nothing passive about that.
Speaker 3 (47:24):
Very favorite sex position.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
Mmm, you know what, I need to be better at
this as sex.
Speaker 3 (47:31):
It's not just I love me a little? What is
a little? What is that like?
Speaker 2 (47:37):
Is that like a color from behind when I when
I'm on my back missionary?
Speaker 6 (47:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (47:41):
Okay, is he rock? I was like from turn on? Oh,
turn on?
Speaker 1 (47:51):
Honestly like kissing, touching, Yeah, affection, turn off?
Speaker 3 (47:58):
Bad breath girl bad.
Speaker 2 (48:01):
I recently experienced that we hired for a show pramatized,
and the thing is.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
Like it'd be it'd be like from within something is wrong.
Yeah that the two brushs can't fix that.
Speaker 3 (48:13):
Mm hm that's how.
Speaker 6 (48:13):
You got demons therapy.
Speaker 3 (48:16):
Oh, I'm off for it. Kids, I would love to
be a bomb.
Speaker 1 (48:20):
I would love I would love two children.
Speaker 3 (48:22):
To just start with one and take it from there.
Let me tell you love eating pussy. You know I've
never done that?
Speaker 6 (48:32):
Are you interested in at all?
Speaker 3 (48:34):
Have you kissed a woman? I never kissed a woman.
Speaker 6 (48:36):
You know what this is?
Speaker 1 (48:37):
I would love to lick some titties.
Speaker 3 (48:39):
This is so random.
Speaker 2 (48:40):
The kids the pussy titties because I love titties. I
love titties of all shapes, saggy titties, you know, perky titties,
flappy titties, brown titties, just brown tittiest Yeah, yeah, yeah,
titty the world.
Speaker 3 (48:58):
I just love nothing.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
But sometimes I will look at a woman. I'm like, damn,
I wonder what her titties look like. But I don't
think does that make me gay?
Speaker 6 (49:06):
No, I don't think that makes you gay, babe.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
Best advice you've ever gotten, well, best advice I've ever
gotten that, Like it's so cliche, but like, just be yourself,
especially in this industry.
Speaker 3 (49:19):
Just be yourself.
Speaker 1 (49:19):
Do you stop trying to do what you think other
people are doing, or like, don't look at what other
people what they're like. You never know what somebody else's
journey is. So you might look at somebody like, damn,
they got the successful podcast, but they've been doing it
for seven years, eight years. You don't know, like what
sacrifices they made. So yeah, just focus on me, do
me stop looking to the side, just look above for everything.
Speaker 3 (49:44):
Yeah. Well that concludes our game of trigger. Thank you
you've survived, Thank.
Speaker 1 (49:48):
You you did.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
Okay, I know we got to get out of here
before we do, Do you mind sharing an affirmation with us?
Speaker 3 (49:57):
An affirmation?
Speaker 2 (49:58):
Yeah, something that, like you know, gets you motivated, maybe
something you tell yourself in the morning or get you through.
Speaker 1 (50:04):
Oh my god, I have everything.
Speaker 3 (50:06):
I possess everything.
Speaker 1 (50:08):
I need to be the best me that this world
should receive.
Speaker 2 (50:14):
I have everything I need to be the best me
that this world should receive, this world should receive.
Speaker 3 (50:21):
Yes, it's always yes.
Speaker 1 (50:24):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (50:24):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (50:25):
And I got nice TDS you.
Speaker 6 (50:28):
And that's real. No, they're really nice, good.
Speaker 3 (50:33):
Doctor. They're five years old. Are they in Atlanta or
where they Oh, he's in Miami.
Speaker 5 (50:36):
I think thirty five hundred dollars because lovely me me
said you can get five thousand thirty five.
Speaker 6 (50:41):
Lovely made me.
Speaker 5 (50:41):
Saying you get sailing for three thousand. You can get
the gomy bear for thirty five hundred.
Speaker 2 (50:44):
I thought it was the BBL for five the BBL
what thirty five?
Speaker 1 (50:49):
It's not doctor doctor Allman. And honestly he took money
off because I was I was talking about him. But
there's seven thousand high doctors. I'll talk about the Yeah. Yeah,
and doctor Almond is like the titty god like oh,
doctor Almond Altman a L. T M a Altman child.
But yeah, like all the baddies have been to Almond.
Speaker 3 (51:11):
He's really good talk. But please don't get no bb
O for three thousand, bitch.
Speaker 6 (51:15):
I'm not getting no God.
Speaker 2 (51:17):
I'm barely getting boots Okay, sane.
Speaker 5 (51:21):
Even though, but he's like, I want to get those injections.
Like Kylie, they have all had like a bunch of
filler in their hips.
Speaker 6 (51:27):
So that's that's filler. It's called sculpt like sculpts. Where
is that later?
Speaker 3 (51:33):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (51:33):
I'm just making that up. I'm not doing that. I'm
barely getting titties. I'm gonna get titties after I turn
forty and have another baby. I'm very in the market
right now.
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I like Jesse. Let our people know where they can
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Show host actress Sanger, podcast host miss Jesse Woo woo.
Welcome to the show.
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Jazz's up, sister, how are you you look beautiful?
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I'm good, happy to be with y'all.
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We had a lot of good conversations.
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Good Moms, it's gonna be dynamic.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
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Speaker 3 (03:18):
Bring it on.
Speaker 6 (03:19):
Just a couple of things, not just.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Right, just a couple of things.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Is my podcast just a couple of things?
Speaker 6 (03:26):
Very clever, just like vacations.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Yes, yes, vacations my trip that I take with my
sub bes. I know, I said sub like subby's what
is the su said?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
And anyone who's our audience is for sure going to
think you're talking about subs really like sub sub some
sex bitches, because that's the first thing I thought about.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
I am not I would not go to subscribers at all.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
No, it's it's like I feel like I've heard like
all the o G YouTubers they would always say that,
oh my subbies. So I'm like, when I became a YouTuber,
I was like my subbies.
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That's because Dominatrix just got big.
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You know, we need maybe we need to call our
YouTubers the subbies. Maybe if we're telling them their subbies
will do what the funk we say. Maybe if you
recognize yourselves as subbys, you will listen and actually subscribe
and right comments.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Good night, Jess, thank you for coming on our show.
Thanks for having me. All.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
We do a segment on our show called bad Choice
of the week. Have you had any bad choices this week?
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Bad mom?
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Not a bad mom, but a bad mom.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
I'm living. I had a long weekend and I didn't.
I didn't.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
I'm sorry, baby, but he wanted some and I just
kept falling asleep. But then before I caught my flight,
I made up for it. You overheard him on the
phone head he said that what you did this morning?
Speaker 6 (04:46):
I did.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
I was like, what you do?
Speaker 6 (04:48):
Man? A little morning head?
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Or so? He said that thing you did this morning?
Speaker 6 (04:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (04:53):
Yeah, Well I don't tell us what the thing is
because I need to borrow it to put it in
my books. That's the whole reason the friendship. Like what
you did so I can put it in more thing schedule?
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Well, he I would just say this, he said the
Mermaid is back, because I told him being with a
Haitian woman is like being with a mermaid siren energy.
He said the Mermaid was back.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
I said, I know that's right. Literally, Oh my god,
oh yes god, I like that. Bad choice. Just tell
(05:29):
us a little bit about you. Where is you from.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
I'm from Day motherfucking County. I'm from Miami Dade County.
I'm not from Florida.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
I am from Miami.
Speaker 6 (05:41):
I like that. You different, that's a different.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Shout out to kid Fury.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
But yeah, I grew up in Miami. But I was
born in Canada to Haitian parents. So I'm Haitian by blood.
I'm a Canada passport, Yes I do.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Actually it's expired.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
I need to girl, Yeah I know, yeah, I know,
I need to. You have both, yes, yeah, yeah. So
but I was born in Canada. I was raised in Miami.
I went to I did all my schooling in Miami. Like,
I went to college, all the way up to college,
all the way up to grad school. Shout out to
FIU Panthers, I'm a Panther. And then what do you
have to college for?
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Are you doing? Are you doing what you did went
to college for? I think, so I did. I did journalism.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
I did journalism and political science, so I knew I
was either gonna do I was either gonna do this
or like you know, be on television doing journalism, or
I was going to be a lawyer. But the l
SAT was so damn hard. I was like, oh, this
is not it.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Never Frank, Yeah, this ain't it.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
And then like trying to be a journalist in Miami,
it was hard because it was you know, if you're
not go DC, you know what I'm saying, If you not,
it was hard to get a job. So then after
I got my masters, I went to New York. And
in New York, New York was another beast. There's a
reason why they say only the strongest survive. And if
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you if you make it in New York, you could
make it anywhere. But in New York is where I literally.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Got my first. Actually, no, when I was still in.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Miami, I used to work for a show called Generation Next.
It was on NBC six, So I was actually sideline
reporting for high school football, like Pop Warner football, high
school football.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Players who were going into college.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
So I was just trying, by any means, trying to
be a journalist. I knew nothing about football, but I
was just like okay, just taking notes as I went.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
I was like, yeah, the.
Speaker 6 (07:27):
Right and he's going you wide receive it right line?
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Yeah, yeah, like you know.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
So I would just like learn as I went, and
I got better and better. And then like when I
moved to New York, I had got my first job,
lost it. I was on food stamps, Section I was.
I was Section eight even in Miami, child I had
I had a rough. I had a rough. I had
a rough couple of years, but I was on unemployment.
I was on food stamps in New York, and I
didn't know what I was gonna do, and I just
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started making content.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
The content took off.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
And then like I went to like this open and
like open mic night to go tell jokes and a
BT executive was there.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Literally like she asked me, She's like, hey, I'm looking
for a talent for.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
A show that we have at BT Breaks. She's like,
you know, do you write?
Speaker 6 (08:12):
And yes, I do everything.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Literally every time she asked me a question, I was
like yes, yes, yes, please, yes you say yes. So
that was my first like major network on screen job
was BT Breaks.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
I love that you said that.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
You said yes because I think a lot of times
we're so free to like not have the credentials, and
that will be like, well, it's a lot of explaining
that starts to happening.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Well, you know, I.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Sort of later, Yeah, I think literally that is literally
the only reason maybe you are successful. Listen, we delied,
the denied. We lied our way to the time period.
I don't even lie, we just we just have delusional.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
Lie.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
We lied a little bit like when I used to
work in corporate Do you know Excel? Yes, you know,
I was a copy and patient.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Bitch.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
I don't know, no, no shit, I don't know what
you think.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Google's for in this day and age. You say yes
to everything, bitch, tragedy. You even got to Google YouTube,
university ship. They will write it out for you.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
The script applies for all the jobs, even if you
have no background.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
In any of it. Period.
Speaker 6 (09:15):
So yeah, when was the first content that you created?
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Actually?
Speaker 1 (09:19):
So I was more focused on like Haitian comedic stuff.
And I remember there was one video where I was like.
Speaker 7 (09:27):
Oh my god, every time I go to mcdonnad, the
machine is always booking to go get ice cream or whatever,
and that kind of circulated a lot, which is funny
because I'm about to work with McDonald's for the first time.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Yes, okay that's eight.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Years later circle, But yeah, that was my first piece
of content. But I used to do always like Haitian accent, Haitian.
And then I was like, okay, I kind of want
to do more everyday commentary, like, you know, because I
have an opinion, I say a lot. You know, sometimes
people agree, people don't, but still I will still have
a little comedic comedic side or whatever I do. But
(10:06):
my first content that was like very Haitian, very Haitian centric, creole,
heavy accent. That's how people got to know me.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
First of all, how do you how do you deal
with the people that don't fuck with what your opinions are?
Speaker 5 (10:19):
Oh, especially as a sensitive ass cancer because I feel
out the cancer, I'm always thinking about other people.
Speaker 6 (10:24):
Like that was a nice I shouldn't.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Say, Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Being Haitian, I come from a very rough background and
like I think, as a woman, you're not supposed to
have an opinion. You're not supposed to say things that
people don't like. And from the start, from the very beginning,
when I was doing like the Haitian comedy, like there
would be like you know, hashtag don't fuck with Jesse
Woo or we don't fuck with you like I've always
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I'm always being reminded by especially like that community that
they don't fuck with me whatever, which is cool. I've
never asked anybody to fuck with me, whether you're in
that community or not. But I think, like in the beginning,
I think things would be very hurtful, and then I
realized that I have never had an encounter with someone
in public that wasn't positive. Every time I'm in public,
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it's always a positive interaction. For the last eight years
that I've had a platform, every encounter I have in
person with folks, it's always positive. So that's why I'm
just like, I'm not gonna let comments online get to me.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Like people will say things.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
The only thing that I have a tough time with
is like not clapping back. I feel like sometimes because
you have a platform and people feel like they know you,
they can talk to you a certain way, and it's like,
why do you think you could talk to me like that?
Speaker 6 (11:46):
Like bitch, I talk back in these comments?
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Well then you talk back and they be like I
love you. Oh I love you. Oh my bad.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Like especially now too that I have a man, sometimes
I'll tag him like, oh my bad, bruh, what what
are we doing? Like, so it's just weird. So I
think it's just that's my mindset. It's like, I don't
let it get to me because I know when I'm
outside it's always hey Jesse, hey sister, it's always positive.
So yeah, so that doesn't bother you. We talked a
little bit about this on your on your show about
(12:20):
sometimes needing the valid the validation from the people that
we love the most, aka our parents, our family coming
from not coming until they hear someone else validate us.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
And I know you've talked, and I know you've talked
candidly about your relationship with your mom and how challenging.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Support. But I got some backglass for that.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
You know, people get really We had we had someone
on our show called Slumflower.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
I don't know if you're familiar with her.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
She's amazing and she that episode was called The Mother Wound,
and she was talking about cutting off her mom and
how it was the best decision she's ever made and
that her mom just mentally abused her for years and
she was like, it was the best thing I've ever
done for myself. And people were so upset about her
protecting herself.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Yeah, yeah, and people get very triggered around that.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Like I just it's so interesting to me, I mean,
even as a mother myself, Like if your parent or
anybody is affecting your mental health abusing you, why on
earth would you.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Keep this person in your life? Literally? And I don't
know what is what is the relationship you have with
your mother? Now? Is it?
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Like do you guys communicate it all? And like growing up?
I guess maybe let's start with growing up. What was
your relationship like? And like at what age did you
realize because in the clip you said, I just feel
like she didn't like me.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
I said, you birthed me, but you didn't fuck with me.
You didn't fuck with me, yeah, which is basically that.
And I think that people think that that was me
saying like my mom hates me. My mom doesn't hate me.
My mom does love me. But I feel that just
because you love someone doesn't mean that you like them.
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And my mom has never told me she doesn't like me.
But I know my mother, like I know what I
feel and It's funny because I've spent like eight years
telling the world that my daddy was a crackhead, and
nobody budgets, Like that's fine, nobody budget. I can tell
the entire with my daddy was a crackhead, and I'm like, oh,
one thing about Jesse, she gonna let us know how.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Daddy was aead. But the moment I said something about
my mother.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Oh, you're you're horrible. You're you're horrible. You're supposed to give.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Grace, who said I haven't given grace, who said I
have to Yeah, oh that you need to go through
a therapist, who said I haven't been a therapy, right,
Nigga is my mom? They literally so I think I
think they're just like I said in the clip, there
need to be more spaces for people to talk about
mother wounds, because the same way people who lunch at
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me in the comments. You don't think I experienced that
from family members. You don't think I experienced that from
loved ones when they when I've said certain things. You
don't think I've experienced that from my mother herself, Like
when I when I vocalize, hey this is how I feel, Hey,
this is what you did no, no, no, you know
what I mean, Like it's always because it's your mother,
And I get it, like moms make the world go round,
(15:08):
like mothers are matriarchs. Like I remember one time, this
is so like random, but niece Nash had this one
line on the Bernie Mac Show and she's like, tity
feed the world, and that's like mothers, Like mothers feed
the world, titty feed the world. Like so I get it,
Like we have to protect our mothers.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
I get that. But I think a lot of us
have mother.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Wound, especially those of us who are first born, especially
those of us who are firstborn of an immigrant family,
Like you know, especially those of us who are first
born and then you're the daughter, and then you see
the difference between like the treatment of the sons versus
the daughters. Like I think that there need to be
conversations for that. And yes there was people lunging at me,
(15:52):
but there were so many comments or I got so
many dms thanks for saying that, I could never say it.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
I can't thank you.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Like some of us are grieving, it's like her Mother's Day,
Like we're grieving not because our mothers are dead, but
because we did not have our mother's the way.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
The way you see the Instagram captions on Instagram from
you know, or even.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Like other friends, or even like other family members, Like
I have a cousin of mine who, like I was
always jealous of her relationship with her mother, and her
mother looks just like me. If you see her mom,
you'll think she's my mom. Their Haitian too, Yeah, she's
her mom, is my mom's sister.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
That's interesting because you would think because when I hear
you talk about your mom, I'm sorry that.
Speaker 6 (16:35):
Cuts you off your story.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
No, oh, when you think about like when you've entered
that intro that story, I was thinking, like thinking that
mo like a lot of times. She probably wasn't taught
how to mother of course, so she's just dealing. She's
just like doing whatever she thinks is motherhood. Yeah, but
it's interesting, especially because that's you know, Caribbean parents. But
if her sister is from the same household that she's from, right,
(16:59):
and it's showing up in a different way, then it
makes you like, damn, what the fuck is what happened?
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (17:04):
What parenting? Did you get?
Speaker 7 (17:05):
Well?
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Different? I mean then we talked about that a lot too.
Is that that a lot of times.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
That's what happened, is like you see siblings come out
of the same household, but they have very different experiences.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Yep, and that's that.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
It's like socioeconomic experiences, the time, the relationship that your
mother was in at the time, whatever it might be,
and we assume that it's going to be the same.
You and your siblings have the same shared experiences and
it's not are your siblings Do your siblings?
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Your siblings have a similar experience of you.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Oh no, They're like, I'm the oldest of four and
I can tell you now, we have four different experiences
I think, just like, for instance, like my brother Daremi,
he's my mother's favorite. Like and she'll never say that,
but I remember one time we were all at dinner
and I think it was like Mother's Day and it
was years back, but the subject came up, like you know,
(17:55):
you have a favorite child.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
She's like, no, no, I don't have a fan with no,
but I don't have that.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
And we all said Jeremy and Unison, like we all said,
everybody knew Jeremy.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
What how does Jeremy feel about that?
Speaker 6 (18:06):
Is he the baby?
Speaker 3 (18:06):
No, Jeremy's a second born.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Jeremy's a second born, but I think Jeremy always knew that,
like you know, when you're the mom's favorite, you know,
when you're able to do everything. But also I think that, yeah,
we all had very different experiences.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
But I think me being the oldest.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
I think I was just I was used as a
resource a lot, Like I was a resource, and.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
I mean, I pick up your brother from school, Go
do this, go do that. Yeah, I was not responsible.
Speaker 6 (18:39):
You didn't do it. If you didn't clean the house,
I don't know how to do all that.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Yeah oh yeah, yeah, yeah you didn't yeah oh yeah,
like definitely. And then I do feel that, you know,
I just got I got a very harsh version of
my mom, and then Jeremy got like half of that.
And then by the time she remarried and she had
my last two siblings, it was totally different. Like it
just John he was able to do so many things
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like my and then by the time Jonie was born,
she got she got the world handed to her like
And I think I have a little bit of maybe
sibling jealousy a little bit because I feel like I
showed when I look back at my childhood, I showed
signs of a lot of talent, like very very early,
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and none of that was invested in. But then I
saw other children be invested in. And but then what's
crazy is if you look at all of us, the
children that got the most ended up doing the least.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Yeah, because they've never had some they didn't have to,
ended up doing the least.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
I remember when I went and got my masters, Jeremy was.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Like, damn, Jess, we don't see you master some She yes,
you know, And I can't tell you one degree that
my siblings have, but they saw me do everything, and
then they even see what I'm doing now, and I mean,
I've always just figured it out.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
I was like that, I just was.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
I feel like I was that child that was that
baby that was just thrown in water and I just
had to like swim and everybody else was.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Like, okayh go paddle board and here go.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
And I'm like, damn, y'all got it easier and I
had it the worst and I've done the most.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
So do you think that some of that is because
of a you had to be resourceful and be maybe
perhaps there was like a need to impress. Was there
any was there like a want to impress your mother,
where they didn't have to do that because it was
already kind of given to them.
Speaker 6 (20:36):
Hmm.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
I don't know if it was a want to impress.
I had no choice, like I'm Haitian, like I had
like Haitian women, Haitian girls, you have no choice. You
have to be successful, like there's no choice, and like
in a Haitian household, I think that the girls are raised,
the boys are loved, Like it's a very different dynamic.
(21:03):
Every now and then you'll see a mother that's more
loving or you know, with her daughter, But most of
the time it's like I think that in the Haitian culture,
women are raised to be prepared for a very tough world,
and that's what my mom did.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
I'm very thankful to her.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
For that because the things I experienced with her, I
think she definitely got me ready for this mago world
we ain right now, Like she got me ready for that,
and I feel like I will always soar Like there's
been times in life that I've lost everything and I'm like,
it's okay, because I'm going to get it all back
plus more because I feel like that's how she raised me.
(21:40):
But yeah, I just feel like that's just kind of
like the nature of raising the girl versus the boy.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
You having this conversation with you, it just makes me
realize like the protection, Like just thinking about the backlash
that Sunflower got in our show, the backlash that you've
gotten for saying that out loud. Even my husband fiance
doesn't contact his mom and I was with my mom
and her friend, and I like mention that and like,
I'm in a really healthy relationship. I'm really happy, and
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like she's like houses like she was his mom, Like
he doesn't talk to her, and they're like, oh, like
you need to.
Speaker 6 (22:11):
Worry about that.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
You need to you know, and I and I and honestly,
prior to this relationship, I would think the same thing
because even for me, I've had very up and down
relationship with my mom and there's been times where I've
taken a big step back and taken like months off,
Like so, I'm gonna let you deal with you because bitch,
you're talking to me like a bitch on the street
and this is not gonna work. But never being like
(22:33):
I will cut you off completely, I've never been there
because I'm a cancer. I'm gonna always forgive I'm not
gonna forget, though, but I do. Even yesterday I went
to Mother's Day lunch and I brought up something about
my childhood and just like, no, that didn't happen. And
I'm like, I've already learned like not to have these conversations.
But I do think that there is a huge level
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of lack of accountability for mothers because we do do
so much because we birth, because we raised, because we sacrifice,
because we're trying to figure it out most of the time.
Like there is this I see with my parent, that
there is just complete lack of accountability, like you are
not even listening to shit I have to say, Like specifically,
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one time I was telling her, like I had an
abortion in high school and I didn't tell her.
Speaker 6 (23:18):
I tried not to tell her, but.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
The school called and told them that I missed school.
Speaker 6 (23:22):
So this she had to end up picking me up
from planned parenthood.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Lord, and you didn't catch a bus or nothing. Girl,
I was fucking anesthesia out, Lord have mercy, So she
picked me up.
Speaker 6 (23:33):
Child.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
I was not expecting to picking me up there my
homegirls and pick me up. But all this had happened
while I was in the fucking planned parenthood all day
and she called she I remember, she picked me up
and cursed me out all the way home and was like,
basically like, you threw your baby in the trash.
Speaker 6 (23:47):
You'll probably kill me for repeating this, but it's the truth.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
Yeah, And I brought it up one time and she
was just like, I didn't say that, And I'm like, bitch,
you think I would make How the fuck would I
remember this particular line right fucking twenty years later, And
so even last night, it was something stupid about like
how much I was in that like how much I
was the oldest kid and did so much around the house.
Speaker 6 (24:08):
It's like, no, you didn't I cleaned your room. I'm like, girl,
what the fuck are you talking about? But I realized,
I'm like, we.
Speaker 5 (24:14):
Give moms a level of like delusion. We allow mothers
to have a level of delusion that allows them to
live in this fucking world they made up. And even
as a mom, I recognize that, like, there's going to
require for me to take accountability in the way that
I parent, And when I have another kid, I'm gonna
be a different parent because I'm in a different position.
I'm a different person I'm a different relationship, and like
there is such a like I think as mothers and
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as as we're having this conversation, it's important, like no
matter where you're at in the stage, even if you're
fifty eight, mom, like it takes like listen to your
child and take accountability.
Speaker 6 (24:46):
And say, like I fucked up.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
It's okay if you're not a perfect mom, because we
don't have the blueprint, we don't have the rule book.
We don't fucking know what we're doing, and a lot
of us are making this shit up, and so if
you fuck up.
Speaker 6 (24:58):
It's okay.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
But please, for the love of God, listen to the
experience your kids have to take acknowledgment and be like, damn,
maybe I was fucked up in these places, maybe I
was hurting and that I couldn't.
Speaker 6 (25:09):
Give you this, so that you're not fucking gaslighting me.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
And then I'm not resentful and annoyed because immediately that
conversation started and I was like, I just I've learned
to just shut the fuck up.
Speaker 6 (25:16):
I'll just look at you.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Yeah, but I really just check out too.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
Yeah, Like, especially black people, like there's this undying loyalty
to mothers like you can abuse me, you could hurt me,
you could talk crazy to me, and I'm supposed to
just love you and not fucking talk about it. And
I think that kind of prepares when you do that
to your kids, it preps them, without your knowing subconsciously,
to be in like violent relationships.
Speaker 6 (25:37):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (25:38):
And then you're true, you accept gas lighting from relationships
and lovers that you're with because you're like, my mom
lies to me all the time.
Speaker 6 (25:43):
It's fine.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
How would you say your relationships have been influenced by
the way you were loved by your mother? I mean,
I haven't really had many relationships, and maybe that's why
I had a lot of situationships and you know, situation
that almost became relationships.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
But I will say I call him mister Eastern.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
But Jay, when he met my mother for the first
time last year, he was so nervous and he and
I just I had not told him a lot because
it's like, you know, he has he has his mother wounds,
but him and his mom have such a healthy relationship.
His mother actually has validated a lot of his feelings
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and stuff.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
And I'm like, damn, I wish I had that.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
But then like we meet for a brunch and my
mom looked at him, and you know, we sat down
and she just burst into tears.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
Like he asked her, He's like.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Can you tell me about He's so inquisitive. My man
loves he loves to ask you questions.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
He loves to talk. He wants to understand.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
He's like, so tell me about Jesse. Tell me about Jess,
Like how was she growing up? And how's and like
my mom is like two words in and then she's
just like burst into tears. Like I'm like, I'm trying
to have chicken and waffles.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
What's going on? Like you know what I mean? Mimosas
is flawing, what's happened?
Speaker 1 (27:04):
She usually that emotional, My mom's emotional, but not like that,
Like she burst into tears and then she was just
I'm paraphrasing, but she was saying that I made a
lot of mistakes with you. I'm just perfect. But she's
like I made a lot of mistakes with her. I
made a lot of mistakes with her, and like she
just was like letting it all out with him, and
(27:25):
I just remember being so upset. I'm like, you ain't
never said this to me, You've never said this to me,
So why are you saying.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
It to him? Like you're looking at him and it's like.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
I did this and I did that, and it's like, girl.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
You just met this man. I'm fifty seven and you
ain't never said this shit to me, you know what
I mean. Like, so it's just like I know it's
in there.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
I know you have it in there, but for whatever
the reason, you haven't said that to me. And until
you say it to me, I can't accept it. I
can't really lease that. Like I in my mind like
I'm not gonna be I don't hate my mother like
I love my mother, but I feel like my feelings
are valid and just like you said, it's like it's
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this thing of well this, this didn't happen like this,
what about what you did?
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Because you did.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
So it's just like until then, I don't I have
to kind of just express myself how I can, which
is whether it's a therapist. But also when I introduce
that conversation, I'm like, dang, it's a lot of girls
out there. Who's a lot of women out there who
have mother wounds who want to talk about it. I'm like,
maybe maybe I can create that safe place I don't know.
(28:38):
Maybe I'll go on to a mother wound's tools, do
a mother wound's retreat like something, because I feel like
a lot of women have that. And it's not that
we hate our mothers. It's not that we don't like
our mother's it's not that we want to see our
mothers dead like no, it's that like we have wounds
that we want to release and we want to heal from,
and we don't want to pass that on to our daughters.
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My biggest fear in life is having kids and them
hating my guts.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Seriously, Well, I think.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Just knowing being that self aware is already you're combating that,
even that that possibility even happening. I think people like,
if you can't even acknowledge the things that have happened
to you or the way that your mother has, then
there's then of course you're gonna keep passing keep passing
it on. Yeah, yeah, so I think And I feel
bad too, even like going back to my man, like
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he wants that whole, you know, So I hope we
can get to that, Like when we're around each other,
it's great, but it's just like I can.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Only do certain things for so long. Like it's like, Okay,
we there's a conversation that needs to happen, and there's
a way it has to happen. And if it don't
happen like that, I can't move forward in a way
I want to move forward to. But until then, we
come on down.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
We can have you no mimosas we can't have chicken
and while phones and we an hour and thirty minutes. Yeah, right,
so yeah, And also I think we're also in a
in an era where we have been given you know,
with the internet makes.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Us sound so old.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
You know, we got the internet right with the Internet
and technology right Microsoft word that is, we have we
have access to understanding and like to work to language
that like makes us gives us like perspective into our childhoods,
Like that wasn't normal.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Right.
Speaker 5 (30:30):
I watched a lot of family matters and she never
said that to her, do, right, you know what I mean? Like,
there's a lot And we're also in the era of
like speaking about it, talking about it being a wound,
and like talking about therapy, talking about mental health, talking
about going to a fucking retreat. And even in our
like really retreat business, we've seen a few mom and
daughters come together really and it's been really healing just
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to observe and just the fact that they're willing to
do that and be vulnerable with their kids in adulthood.
Because I was thinking about what you said, and I realized, like,
even with me, to my mom, I there's certain relationships,
there's certain things that I can be really kind hearted
and warm and soft with people that I don't know
very well.
Speaker 6 (31:09):
But when it comes to my own family, like I.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
Support people, I support women all year long, but then
becames to my mom, I'm like, yeah, because you got
that wound. Yeah, and it hurts too much. It's too
it's too much. I can't show up like sometimes I do.
Maybe if I smoke a joint first, I'm like, oh
my god, I love you.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
It's okay, you know, but I think I'm gonna start
doing a little crack with my daddy. Maybe maybe I'll
do a little cracked first.
Speaker 5 (31:32):
It's just a little pink Molly.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Little pink crack that they were talking about in the
Diddy Trip.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Maybe I could.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
That's Allercy.
Speaker 6 (31:40):
Don't do that, Oh, don't do it, Okay, I did
that once. Not pink cracker. Not the pink crack, don't
do it, don't do it.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
No, but also too, and just one last thing I
want to say too, is I hate when like people
share like parent wounds or mother wounds and it's like,
but you.
Speaker 6 (32:00):
Only got one mama.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
I know, I know, I came out of one Kouchie,
I know that, but still, like I still want to
be able to either talk about.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
These feelings or be able to resolve them.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
And again, like there are spaces that need to be
held for other people, Like you'd be surprised, Like how
y'all said, Like you'll be surprised stuff that you guys.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Share on your podcast.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Y'all are out here freeing bitches, like you know what
I mean. Like I want to free bitches too from
like whatever wounds they have, like and let people know
like you're not by yourself, Like well.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
I think too, Like we're always talking about just like
childhood and everything goes back to childhood, So how the
fuck am I supposed to heal if I'm not allowed
to talk about the darkest parts of my childhood.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
And sometimes it is the mom. So yeah, we're used
to the dad.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Like yeah, it's like for the women specifically, but the mother.
Thing is like, oh that's the whold.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Wo wo wo? Right, but who took care of you?
You alive? She pushed you out her pussy?
Speaker 6 (33:03):
But did you guys to be grateful?
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Bills was always were you hungry?
Speaker 4 (33:07):
Right?
Speaker 3 (33:08):
If you was your daddy there? Right? What you say
to his ass? Right? Like you can't have no qualms.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
With this, with this bitch, because this nigga did the
worst of the worst of the worst.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Yeah, you know it's crazy too.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
I'm sorry. Just one last thing.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Mister Easton met my daddy, right, and he meets my
dad and he says the same thing, So tell me
about Jessica growing up?
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Mind you. I told my.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Man my dad was hardly there, but I don't know
if he was so excited to meet my father.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
So he's like, tell me about Jessica. How was she grown?
Speaker 1 (33:36):
And my dad starts lying through his body, Oh, she
was such a good daughter and she was so smart.
And I said, that's why I went.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
I was like, nigga, you were not there. He's like
almost choked. It's like, wait a minute, I thought we
was protecting a good time. Why would you ruin this moment?
Are you gonna ruin this.
Speaker 6 (34:01):
Moment, Yes I am, but the truth weren't there.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
Yeah, crazy.
Speaker 6 (34:05):
Did he react negatively after he said that.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
He No, damn well, he was a damn ball. How
daddy doing now? Is he has? He's fine, he looks good.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
He got him a white girlfriend. White women love Haitia
Man in Canada. So my daddy all one thing about him.
He always gonna have something to fall back on, and
that's white women. That's white women.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
Okay, that's so interesting, you know because my mom growing
up used to tell me that, uh, my dad like
Asian women, and he does.
Speaker 6 (34:36):
My mom has very chinky eyes. I don't know if
I'm supposed to.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Say that, if that's I've been told that I have.
Speaker 6 (34:40):
Chinky eyes, I don't think chinky were supposed to say that.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
But okay, I'm sorry, you know, I'm sorry. No Asian hate.
And I mean, but my mom he was.
Speaker 5 (34:47):
Like cheat with Asian women, and she would fucking hate
Asian women, like Tilla says. She'd be like making derogatory terms.
It's like super traumatic. But now that I grow up,
I think, like one time my dad like brought a
bitch around. First of all, I have like inherent so
much jealousy because of my mother, but also like but nigga.
Speaker 6 (35:03):
What the fuck is this bitch around?
Speaker 5 (35:06):
And I just realized, like as an adult, as a
black woman, I'm looking at him like so sideways, like.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Nigga, you got together.
Speaker 6 (35:14):
Yeah, like what the fuck are you?
Speaker 5 (35:16):
Like you put in talking shit about black women, then
you go to this fucking mediocre Asian bitch. I'm just
so confused, Like it really makes me put in like
a different perspective of my father, like as a black woman,
and you're talking about black women about weaves and this
and that, and like even growing up couldn't wear no weave.
Then black black women this, but then you go over
to this other bitch like they.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
Can be as medio.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
I've saw a white woman say that on TikTok too.
Oh she went on TikTok and she was like, my
black father got the most mediocre white woman. She's my
mom and she's like, and no shade, but it's true.
Like black men will literally say all that shit about
black women and then when they go the beach life,
Fiona from Shrey literally but you gotta you gotta have
(35:59):
tire banks over here, like you know what I'm saying,
I'm so really.
Speaker 6 (36:03):
In my adulthood, it made me really changed my perspective.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
I'm your father, and I'm like, I just I can't
understand it.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Yeah, I think, and even to depending on their upbringing,
to like I said, in Canada, it's a thing like
a lot of Haitian men up there are with white women.
It's just like a thing. I don't know what that is.
I think depending on whatever your geographical situation, maybe what
the whiteness brings to your life, you know, is.
Speaker 6 (36:29):
That what the whiteness brings to your life?
Speaker 1 (36:30):
No, I'm just saying like it might be that. And
and I think a lot of people don't understand. Racism
is huge in Canada too, Like you know, my mom
was called the N word, you know. Like so I
think sometimes too, it's kind of like, okay, if I
get a little bit this whiteness.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Actim, yeah, there's a status. There's a status. And also
like you become a safer black Yeah. Yeah, it's it's
so weird when when.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
You walk into a room with a white woman, you're oh, okay, good, right,
you're good.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
You walk in with another black woman, They're like, yeah,
what they you have to do? I it's weird.
Speaker 5 (37:00):
I just feel like my parents are so black power too,
Like I was raised so pro black that, and as
an adult, I'm like, who the fuck are you?
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Like?
Speaker 6 (37:08):
Who are you? Do you hate yourself? Okay, maybe he's
having a mid life prices.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Yeah, okay, well sorry, I'm telling me my daddy met
missus and was like white.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
But I gotta I got you. Yeah, you want to
meet my new white bitch on the internet today about
Lil Wayne and.
Speaker 5 (37:29):
Wait, I was somewhere and I'm so happy you brought
it up because I was watching it on silent and
I really wanted to turn the volume on.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
But he's been dating this girl. I think her name
is Denise something. She's a been model. I think she
might be Latina. I'm not sure she's been They've been
dating for a long time. I remember when they first
got together because she had a career, like she was
like a very popular plus size model Sports.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Illustrated, And I was like, how this happen?
Speaker 3 (37:51):
How did this happen?
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Okay, whatever I've done forgot about their relationship. Blah la
la fast forces. Today I get on the internet, she's
talking about wank me and my daughter out the house
on Mother's Day. This is diabolical all and and he's
out here about to fly in this white girl, this
white bitch from l A or trying her to LA
to come hang out with him.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
And then I saw the white woman that he was
flying in. Girl. They showed him. Can can I see it? Please?
Speaker 6 (38:20):
You know I couldn't watch it on the sound, but
I look at.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
I said, have like what he.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
He got that little Louisiana dick, that brutal.
Speaker 5 (38:32):
Yeah, he got the little niggas be having that dick.
Sometimes you got that all your readers, the short kings.
Speaker 6 (38:38):
You have to when you was that little. It's a
long dick.
Speaker 5 (38:41):
Yeah, it has to be, which is also always usually digmatization.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
It's no, it's a digmatization.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
My only thing was I did have an instance where
I did do a short man, but he did, but
it just when we when it was time to spoon,
I can't.
Speaker 5 (38:57):
When I was I was folding underwear and I could
fit his small shirts.
Speaker 6 (39:02):
And I'm already a very petite woman.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
I know, I love.
Speaker 6 (39:05):
Sex foot tall, but I am.
Speaker 5 (39:07):
I was like, this has tall your man now at
six feet yeah, he's not.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Mine is six three. I got it well, let him
tell it. It's he's six fool.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
Yeah, I like a little love. You gotta have a
little Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
He's tall and I can wear my my my nine
inch twelve inch heels and I ain't gotta worry about Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
But I also thought that the girl too said she
said something about DV. Didn She said that Lil Wayne
allegedly that he hit her or something like that.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
Yes, said that he had little niggas also be hitting.
I can't find it. Oh here it is here.
Speaker 5 (39:39):
You're fucking lying, I know you fucking line.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
Okay, yeah, okay.
Speaker 6 (39:48):
Here wait, wait, hold on, let me hold ahead.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
Look at it.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
Ah, the one in the center, that's the main girl,
that's the one of the last.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
Put the glasses. Yes see whatever you just said.
Speaker 5 (40:02):
Yes, that looks like somebody is Grandma Mom from the PTA.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Anyway, Kings, do better.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Okay, before we get out of here, I want to
play a little game that it's called trigger. So I'm
gonna say a word and you say the first thing
that comes to mind. Oh, don't overthink it, just go
for it. Ready, I'm ready, bad habits, I.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
Drew a blank. Procrastination marriage a sap A sap. Are
you ready for mister Easter. How'd y'all meet?
Speaker 1 (40:42):
We met Actually he was on a press tour for
his documentary. He has documentary called Freaknickout that it went.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Viral last year, and I was his last press stop.
I was on destination. I was his last press stop,
and we changed numbers.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
We actually used to live in the same building. He
told me that we met several times in the elevator.
I was like, damn, I never I didn't remember. The
guy used to just be like hey, and I just
put my head down.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
I still do that.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
And then so like he was like, you know, let's
exchange numbers. I love to know what you got going on.
I love to, you know, maybe work on something cool.
And then like we had a meeting and everything was putonic.
But I remember when I left the meeting, I just
was like hmm. And I had text him that week
like I was like, hey, what are you doing like
Easter weekend and He's like, oh, I'm going to church.
(41:30):
And I wanted to ask him if I would go
to church with him, but I thought it was weird.
Then he asked me, so we went to church together
for Easter.
Speaker 6 (41:37):
We went to date, very very cute.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
Church brunch and we've been together ever since.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
That's a story you could tell the kids. Wholesome. Yeah,
which leads me to my next word, religion. Oh, relationship
instead a relationship, a relationship with Christ, monogamy, love and
hip hop.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
Hated it, hated it? Uh, last time you had sex
this morning?
Speaker 6 (42:15):
Amen?
Speaker 3 (42:16):
Porn category b b W.
Speaker 6 (42:22):
BBW big black woman?
Speaker 3 (42:24):
Yeah really? Or or you know, I want to know
when I.
Speaker 6 (42:28):
Wanted the Asians?
Speaker 3 (42:29):
Really? Who? Why would you do that? Example?
Speaker 6 (42:33):
I was literally like, I was like, what.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
Categories between the changing and what? So is it they
are they getting by a specific race?
Speaker 3 (42:44):
Or is it's just Asians?
Speaker 1 (42:46):
So so this is gonna sound crazy, but I mean
I don't watch it right now at the moment. It's
been a while, but I used to watch a lot
like anime porn.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
Like it was like it was like.
Speaker 6 (42:57):
And tie and you know that when you I want
I'm like, what's going on? Oh?
Speaker 1 (43:04):
I just thought it was funny, like it was entertaining.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
That was Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
Wait, speaking of which, I'm going to just interject her
real quick about my bad choice of the week. Bitch,
my it was the of anime porn. So I had.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
I don't know I had. I was watching Oh we
have separate hotel rooms. I don't know, we have separal
tail rooms.
Speaker 6 (43:25):
I was in Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (43:26):
I was at Atlanta. Yeah, I'd been watching porn in
my computer.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
I get home back to LA and my daughter is like, Mommy,
I have to do an assignment.
Speaker 3 (43:34):
Oh, I need to use your computer. And I was like, okay.
I hand her my computer.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
We're on the couch together and she opens the computer
and then she closes it and she hands it to
me and goes, mommy, you have to put your password in,
and then she walks away.
Speaker 3 (43:47):
So I'm like, okay, so I open it.
Speaker 6 (43:49):
I'm like, why was the password partner?
Speaker 3 (43:52):
I don't know, but it.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
Was open and it was like, you know, the ad
page for porn. So it's like every type of porn,
all different types of anime. The was all tights, and
I was like, pink, big yellow, big black, dick, just
all dick, monkey dick.
Speaker 6 (44:06):
Wait, but usually you have to put the password to
see anything.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
It was the jaw like, I know, we didn't what
are you gonna say?
Speaker 6 (44:20):
Pop ups? Yeah done, mommy, you put your password.
Speaker 3 (44:25):
So that was my choice. Of the Week.
Speaker 6 (44:27):
Did you avoid her for one hour?
Speaker 3 (44:29):
No?
Speaker 2 (44:29):
She came right back in and I said, okay, it's here,
here's the word the document. I was screaming, love language, oh, affection,
quality time.
Speaker 3 (44:44):
Morgan Freeman? Was he ever young? I thought this was crush?
This is not your crush?
Speaker 6 (44:51):
More than.
Speaker 3 (44:59):
Where the fu? Great?
Speaker 5 (45:02):
I was really wondering, why, Wait, what did I say
that I'll be saying. I was like, I've never seen
Morgan Freeman on them.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
Now, now I will tell you I've said a crush
of mine before, and I've got dragged for it every time.
Speaker 6 (45:15):
Who it wasn't Freeman?
Speaker 1 (45:17):
Wasn't It was Dave Chappelle, and people like he ugly.
Speaker 3 (45:21):
I'm like, no, it's not. I thought he would laugh
me out my drawers.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
I love you a funny man.
Speaker 6 (45:27):
Does he like black women?
Speaker 3 (45:29):
He's with an Asian?
Speaker 6 (45:30):
Sorry Mam, sorry mom, I've never seen Dave Chappelle. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
I feel like Dave Chappelle could get it if I
wasn't in a relationship.
Speaker 3 (45:40):
I love my man, Jesse will talk her. Morgan Freeman crush?
What what did I say? Show? What the fuck was
I thinking? Or something?
Speaker 7 (45:54):
No? No?
Speaker 1 (45:54):
No, Yeah, he has a show you to Morgan Freeman.
Speaker 3 (45:59):
Forget like that daddy porn. Okay, he was never young.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
In one movie he played in Young the other side,
there's this, there is this.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
There's this docu series on Apple right now with black actors,
all the famous black actors that you could think of
the Denzels.
Speaker 3 (46:19):
That it just elbows. And then they go to Morgan Freeman.
They put up his first movie. This motherfucker had white hair.
Speaker 6 (46:23):
First move. Maybe he started late. He might be a vampire.
Speaker 3 (46:26):
Maybe he started late.
Speaker 6 (46:28):
He's a vampire.
Speaker 3 (46:28):
This is this is just a proof that you can
start your career.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
And he's killed it as the older man and his
voice is distinct, is very distinguished.
Speaker 3 (46:39):
Uh, deal breaker?
Speaker 6 (46:40):
Cheating really okay one time?
Speaker 1 (46:44):
Not for like Miami, no, no, one time. Yeah, so
I would find out. I found out after the.
Speaker 3 (46:50):
Facts, like after what's cheating to you? He slept with
somebody else?
Speaker 2 (46:55):
In general? Though, like what is cheating? Would be like
texting e bitch and like on the low, like is
it is there emotional cheating that you might pass.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
I feel like if I catch you texting somebody dust cheating,
like I'm done?
Speaker 3 (47:07):
What the you texting her? Toxic? Trait. Oh, passive aggressiveness
to Braxton hater.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
Okay, that's nothing passive about that.
Speaker 3 (47:24):
Very favorite sex position.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
Mmm, you know what, I need to be better at
this as sex.
Speaker 3 (47:31):
It's not just I love me a little? What is
a little? What is that like?
Speaker 2 (47:37):
Is that like a color from behind when I when
I'm on my back missionary?
Speaker 6 (47:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (47:41):
Okay, is he rock? I was like from turn on? Oh,
turn on?
Speaker 1 (47:51):
Honestly like kissing, touching, Yeah, affection, turn off?
Speaker 3 (47:58):
Bad breath girl bad.
Speaker 2 (48:01):
I recently experienced that we hired for a show pramatized,
and the thing is.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
Like it'd be it'd be like from within something is wrong.
Yeah that the two brushs can't fix that.
Speaker 3 (48:13):
Mm hm that's how.
Speaker 6 (48:13):
You got demons therapy.
Speaker 3 (48:16):
Oh, I'm off for it. Kids, I would love to
be a bomb.
Speaker 1 (48:20):
I would love I would love two children.
Speaker 3 (48:22):
To just start with one and take it from there.
Let me tell you love eating pussy. You know I've
never done that?
Speaker 6 (48:32):
Are you interested in at all?
Speaker 3 (48:34):
Have you kissed a woman? I never kissed a woman.
Speaker 6 (48:36):
You know what this is?
Speaker 1 (48:37):
I would love to lick some titties.
Speaker 3 (48:39):
This is so random.
Speaker 2 (48:40):
The kids the pussy titties because I love titties. I
love titties of all shapes, saggy titties, you know, perky titties,
flappy titties, brown titties, just brown tittiest Yeah, yeah, yeah,
titty the world.
Speaker 3 (48:58):
I just love nothing.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
But sometimes I will look at a woman. I'm like, damn,
I wonder what her titties look like. But I don't
think does that make me gay?
Speaker 6 (49:06):
No, I don't think that makes you gay, babe.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
Best advice you've ever gotten, well, best advice I've ever
gotten that, Like it's so cliche, but like, just be yourself,
especially in this industry.
Speaker 3 (49:19):
Just be yourself.
Speaker 1 (49:19):
Do you stop trying to do what you think other
people are doing, or like, don't look at what other
people what they're like. You never know what somebody else's
journey is. So you might look at somebody like, damn,
they got the successful podcast, but they've been doing it
for seven years, eight years. You don't know, like what
sacrifices they made. So yeah, just focus on me, do
me stop looking to the side, just look above for everything.
Speaker 3 (49:44):
Yeah. Well that concludes our game of trigger. Thank you
you've survived, Thank.
Speaker 1 (49:48):
You you did.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
Okay, I know we got to get out of here
before we do, Do you mind sharing an affirmation with us?
Speaker 3 (49:57):
An affirmation?
Speaker 2 (49:58):
Yeah, something that, like you know, gets you motivated, maybe
something you tell yourself in the morning or get you through.
Speaker 1 (50:04):
Oh my god, I have everything.
Speaker 3 (50:06):
I possess everything.
Speaker 1 (50:08):
I need to be the best me that this world
should receive.
Speaker 2 (50:14):
I have everything I need to be the best me
that this world should receive, this world should receive.
Speaker 3 (50:21):
Yes, it's always yes.
Speaker 1 (50:24):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (50:24):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (50:25):
And I got nice TDS you.
Speaker 6 (50:28):
And that's real. No, they're really nice, good.
Speaker 3 (50:33):
Doctor. They're five years old. Are they in Atlanta or
where they Oh, he's in Miami.
Speaker 5 (50:36):
I think thirty five hundred dollars because lovely me me
said you can get five thousand thirty five.
Speaker 6 (50:41):
Lovely made me.
Speaker 5 (50:41):
Saying you get sailing for three thousand. You can get
the gomy bear for thirty five hundred.
Speaker 2 (50:44):
I thought it was the BBL for five the BBL
what thirty five?
Speaker 1 (50:49):
It's not doctor doctor Allman. And honestly he took money
off because I was I was talking about him. But
there's seven thousand high doctors. I'll talk about the Yeah. Yeah,
and doctor Almond is like the titty god like oh,
doctor Almond Altman a L. T M a Altman child.
But yeah, like all the baddies have been to Almond.
Speaker 3 (51:11):
He's really good talk. But please don't get no bb
O for three thousand, bitch.
Speaker 6 (51:15):
I'm not getting no God.
Speaker 2 (51:17):
I'm barely getting boots Okay, sane.
Speaker 5 (51:21):
Even though, but he's like, I want to get those injections.
Like Kylie, they have all had like a bunch of
filler in their hips.
Speaker 6 (51:27):
So that's that's filler. It's called sculpt like sculpts. Where
is that later?
Speaker 3 (51:33):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (51:33):
I'm just making that up. I'm not doing that. I'm
barely getting titties. I'm gonna get titties after I turn
forty and have another baby. I'm very in the market
right now.
Speaker 3 (51:39):
I like Jesse. Let our people know where they can
find you. The Jesse wu.
Speaker 1 (51:45):
On every platform, and my podcast is just a couple
of things podcasts.
Speaker 2 (51:51):
So make sure you check out jess on. We'll leave
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Mom's bat choices dot com. And I see light.
Speaker 4 (52:16):
Yeah, I'm living so good. Can't you tell I went
through a drought. That's until I find out well may
might have been known earth. I used to be broken
till now I got the blues dancer like Beyonce Jasell
throat shots or popping his car.
Speaker 6 (52:30):
We're in our voices, patriarch.
Speaker 3 (52:31):
And kept it in the box to it'splois. Women put
the pee and powers.
Speaker 6 (52:35):
So what's pointingss?
Speaker 4 (52:36):
They want me to be good, so I make bad choices.
Bad mom not a bad mom, but a bad mom.
Itter's in on put cannabis in their bath. Bone walked
in bosses Capp and I blew his cat boss hot dog.
Speaker 3 (52:47):
Now I'm immune to.
Speaker 4 (52:48):
The cat called Herbie and no waisted straight to it
like a dollar sign.
Speaker 3 (52:52):
Mother rent the number when to it is like a
water someone where.
Speaker 4 (52:54):
You're in the winter resential will when the summertime?
Speaker 6 (52:57):
I do what all they know?
Speaker 3 (52:58):
When that needs a running by
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