Good Boy: On All Fours Feat. Phor

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Once upon a time there was a good old traditional housewife.
She couldn't She cleaned and cared for her children and
the man of the house, and of course she didn't
talk back. She was both obedient and soft by nature.
She was a good woman who always made good choice.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
We're good mom's bad choices, you single mom, who said,
But the patriarchy shared all their bad choices and found.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Out they were so bad after all.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
We're experts over shares and your new besties. Sit back
and enjoy the ride.

Speaker 4 (00:28):
I can do a bad mon I can do on
myne hear me, my flowers. I can lay it back
powers powers as we have lived.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Well, that was quite We walked to the liquor store,
just a casual strolls tequila. I love a mid afternoon
Wednesday strollers some petima, how about you. I actually guess
it's my new favorite hobby.

Speaker 5 (01:06):
Especially like to take my new pup on a walk.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
He was such a good boy for I.

Speaker 5 (01:12):
Usually, you know, I usually don't like pets. I'm the
only feline in my household. But occasionally there's a new
puppy on the streets and I just want to play
with it, and so I appreciate you allowing us to
play with you and take you on our walk in
studio Sunny Studio City, California.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
You know, I've always preferred big dogs anyway. I've never
been like a little pup type.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
Of bitch me either. I haven't.

Speaker 5 (01:33):
I'm not like a Pomerin and like, if I'm gonna go,
I'm gonna get.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
A big husky.

Speaker 5 (01:37):
I have all bulls like the detective warm heavy dog,
warm warm.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
You know that fur.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Yes, I'm not a cold dog. We don't wanny cold dogs,
no frozen dogs.

Speaker 6 (01:57):
And see it's husky.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
Well, welcome back to Good Mom's Bad Choices.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
I'm Erica and I'm Mela, and it's Wednesday, bitch Shane.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
We lit here. You know what that means.

Speaker 5 (02:11):
Some day we drink tequila. Cheers you guys, that's cheers.
I love the dogs that drink tequila. Those are my
favorite bad dog.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
With Good Mom's.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
So I am excited to introduce to the show four
four four four.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
We have been waiting for this moment.

Speaker 7 (02:37):
Sir.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
You are hard to track down. You are a busy pup.

Speaker 7 (02:42):
Sometimes I get a little hunted.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
Do you like to be called a pup? Or are
you a dog or a doggie?

Speaker 5 (02:47):
Good boy, very good boy. You know, we have been
stalking for a little bit. We've been trying to get
him on the show. But you know what, like a
good dog does a good pup. He he let us
know what he was in town and said I'm in town.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
I said, we got to make this happen. So I
appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
And for those who are listening and you're like, what
the fuck are these bitches talking about?

Speaker 3 (03:08):
Who is for? And why is he a pup or
a good boy?

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Well, I would like you to come to YouTube and
check out check it out. But if you're in your
car for maybe you can explain to our audience what
and who you are.

Speaker 5 (03:22):
But first let's give him a proper introduction for his
artist tattoo artist father. You might know him from Black Ink,
CRWSE Chicago and most recently for his debut on OnlyFans
as a sexual Superstar.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
Oh, a sexual superstar. I like that.

Speaker 7 (03:42):
There.

Speaker 5 (03:43):
We got the best pup sub in the game.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
And you know what else are you known for? How
have you come to be for the pup?

Speaker 8 (03:53):
I'm a great friend, I'm a great brother, you know,
and a fantastic sign I take care of my mom,
my family, things like that, you know, But for me personally,
how I even a lot of people always ask how
do how do I get to this point?

Speaker 7 (04:08):
Right?

Speaker 8 (04:12):
I'm an artist, so I see everything is art, you know.
I got in a place where because the blacking stuff,
you know, the TV stuff, the man under here is
exposed to you know, what people know me from, you know,
and I got to a place where it was like

(04:32):
you get tired of that.

Speaker 7 (04:33):
You know.

Speaker 8 (04:34):
It's like you feel like sometimes you can't grow. They
put you in the box, and I'd rather be in
a cage, you know.

Speaker 7 (04:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (04:44):
So you know, for me, you know, I just wanted
to rebrand myself. Uh, I'm working on my sex line
right now, you know, for play you know, sex stores
on the way be dropping the end of this year.
So but most importantly, I just got to a place
where I just wanted to just like kind of free myself,

(05:05):
you know, not n not that I was hiding anything,
but just like, you know, some things people do in
private and they just don't speak on publicly. And I
just one day I just woke up and I just
felt like, you know, just a little more confident than
than normal. And I was just like, you know, I
have to own my own narrative, you know, uh what.

Speaker 7 (05:27):
Rather people know or not.

Speaker 8 (05:30):
Reality TV kind of kind of ruined me in a
way due to being very vulnerable, due to you know,
having producers you know, sell you things, and then when
you watch the show back, you see how they can
almost you know, do whatever to get you know, ratings
and things like that. So I was, I was, I

(05:51):
was in a predicament where I was in a predicament
like where I got like exposed, like you know, and
I was you know, dealing with uh, you know, a
chick at the time. But this was like this now,
it's about have been about five six years ago, you know,
but it didn't go anywhere. It was like when I
got exposed, I had sent a girl a nude or whatever,

(06:12):
you know, and it was a she.

Speaker 7 (06:14):
Was a wild she was a wild, wild thing, you know, freak.

Speaker 8 (06:18):
So she told me she wanted to you know, suck
me from the back and YadA, YadA, YadA. So I'm like, okay, cool.
So she sending me videos, I'm sending her videos. We
both getting active or whatever. Long story, long story, short
forget how it happened. Production gets their hands on it,
and they put me in a position where they was
tired of the narrative that the show was going as

(06:40):
far as like everybody's in relationships, you know, let's spice
it up.

Speaker 7 (06:43):
We need some fun, we need some fun.

Speaker 8 (06:44):
And I remember walking on set and they wanted me
to like break up from my relationship for TV. I
was like, man, this is a real thing. I can't
really you know, it wasn't like I was. It wasn't
like it was a cast situation. This was like a
real person I was really dealing with off camera. And
the last thing they told me, if you don't do it,

(07:05):
we will, And I didn't know what they meant.

Speaker 6 (07:07):
By but they didn't even give me the chance to
do it, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
Like they were going to show her the pictures.

Speaker 7 (07:13):
They did as she was walking on sets.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
So the picture was from you were sending to another girl?

Speaker 8 (07:18):
Yeah yeah, yeah, well because it was okay, so let
me clear that up. I was setting up a threesome
because the girl I was there that time. We had
a lot of like threesomes and poly stuff going on.
So AnyWho, how did they have the picture?

Speaker 3 (07:30):
The internet?

Speaker 7 (07:30):
Not even that Uh.

Speaker 8 (07:32):
One of the said, that's why I said, long story short,
but the in detailed parts.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (07:37):
Someone that was very close with the girl who I
sent the video to ended up getting access to it
and sent it to production because they wanted they wanted,
they were trying to get. They wanted to be on
TV so bad. So this was her in She thought, yeah, yeah, yeah, so.

Speaker 5 (07:51):
This photo of you that's very black mainly yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah, and you are going to get me on
the show and return.

Speaker 7 (07:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (07:57):
But that didn't happen. She ended up, to my from
what I hear, she did end up having sex with
one of the producers, but she never made it on
TV though they got Yeah. I don't know if she
thought she's gonna get TV time or she or they
were gonna make pay for it. But anyway, she ended
up sleeping with one of the producers. They got the footage, right, cool,
never mind that part that had nothing to do with me, Right.

(08:18):
The part I had to deal with was like I
was caught so off guard because I'm like, damn, like
it was just bad timing, right. I was shocked, But anyway,
I couldn't get past that part of my life, like
it didn't matter what I did, you feel me, I
could do amaze one hundred amazing things. Everybody wants you
to always remember your your losses or times, you know

(08:39):
what I'm saying, where you may have slipped up in something.

Speaker 7 (08:41):
So as of.

Speaker 8 (08:46):
Twenty twenty two, I just got to a place where
I saw like a blog post me or whatever, and
it wasn't even that negative.

Speaker 7 (08:54):
It was just like something positive. And I just remember
the comments.

Speaker 8 (08:57):
That people were just like, oh, we still ain't forgot
about this, or oh you know, they like they still
bringing it up. So I'm just like, man, you know what,
I'm finna give y'all hell for the rest of the year.
That was literally my mission. I said, this is not
gonna be the only thing y'all talk about. I'm gonna
make sure y'all talk about everything. Y'all going to talk
about everything about me. Literally, That's where I was at,

(09:17):
you know, And I'm gonna own it in my own control,
in my narrative, you know. So I let the world
have their way with me for so long last time
for me to have my way with the world. It
was a real personal thing that was I think this
was the only way I could really get ahead of it,
you know what I'm saying, Because if it didn't happen,
I mean, I don't know where I would be right now,
you know what I mean. But sometimes bad things happen

(09:38):
for a good reason.

Speaker 5 (09:40):
Well damn, damn, I didn't even know that they were
getting nasty like that behind the scenes.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
I was trying to tell that it seems like that's
like revenge.

Speaker 5 (09:48):
Porn, Like that's that's the thing you should be able
to sue for and full transparency. Like I only know
Black and Crew like the New York on. I don't
watch that much TV, so I didn't watch New York
Black Crew in Chicago.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
I wasn't familiar.

Speaker 5 (10:01):
I'd had no idea that this is why you came
out and like this and this version of yourself. However,
when I saw you, I was like, I love that
for him, because I liked anybody who's themselves full frontal.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
I have a bitch. I'm like, I'm intrigued.

Speaker 5 (10:13):
I like that, nigga, because first of all, as a
black man, as black people like, we haven't been we
haven't been able to take up space, we haven't been
enable to be multifaceted. If you're this then you're not this.
If you're this, you're not masculine.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
It's like all these rules. So immediately I was like, oh,
that's dope.

Speaker 5 (10:28):
But I had no idea that the background story was
so deep and so dark and ugly, especially because how long.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
Were you on that show?

Speaker 7 (10:35):
Seven years?

Speaker 3 (10:37):
Seasons?

Speaker 5 (10:37):
You give seven seasons to a show and you disrespect
me in this way where you put me in a
position like this, where like and that's another thing, even
hearing your story is like, the black community is so unforgiving.

Speaker 7 (10:49):
Sometimes for sure, it's very unforgetting.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
And what you, like you said as Wold was like, Helen,
niggas are doing hella weird shit behind closed doors, weird
or not weird, or I mean, sex gets weird.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
Let's be real.

Speaker 5 (11:01):
Fantasies, kinks, they get weird because that's the nature of
them and that's why they've been kept secret. But there
is so much power in being like fuck you and
what because the difference between me and you is at
least I'm gonna be who I am and you, you know,
are still in secrecy and sewing stones. But like, yeah,
that's one thing about our nature, and none of eve

(11:22):
know if it's our nature, but how we are is
like we will not let some shit go and anything
outside of the box is everything under the sin.

Speaker 7 (11:29):
Yeah. So for me now I'm so like none with
people say it. Let me clear this up.

Speaker 8 (11:35):
A lot of people that since this is where I'm
at now in life, a lot of people think like, oh,
he's mentally ill, what's wrong with him because of black
Like they really don't know that, Oh he's sold his soul.
Like if they only knew how happy I am, how
much I'm smiling under this mask right now, you know.
So it's just like, you know, I feel like, you know,
people like to find negative reasons why someone is taking

(12:02):
a toll in life versus seeing the positive to it,
you know, when they don't understand it. I always say this,
like everything sounds crazy when you're talking to the wrong audience,
you know. So that's why for me, I wanted to
find my tribe. Once I found my people, everything else
silence itself, you know. So that's where that's why I've
been in. I knew like if I take this leap

(12:23):
of faith, I'm sure I would get the universe is
going to pour.

Speaker 7 (12:26):
It back into me.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
I mean, that's that's it.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
You know us very well because that is our whole shit.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
I have a question.

Speaker 5 (12:34):
I didn't do a lot of research, maybe fifteen minutes
before you walked in, but I know you discussed like
your mental health a lot and battling depression when you're
on the show, and you're pretty transparent about that. And
I think that's also commendable because a lot of men
need to see that men be, you know, express themselves, share,
tell somebody, and I think we struggle with that as
a community's black people and just.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
Men in general.

Speaker 5 (12:56):
And I want to know, like, in this chapter of
your life, choosing this existing in your excuse me, choosing
to exist in your full you know, essence, do you
think has that contributed or has it helped or improved
those you know, that depression and that part of your life.
Because I feel and we feel like sometimes when you

(13:18):
give yourself permission to just do all the be, all
the things without having to hide or feel shamed or
judged by other people, then that's kind of the like
you said, the universe starts to bless you because you're
not going against yourself.

Speaker 8 (13:29):
Yeah, Like I definitely had to, you know, go through
the mud to get to this place. But it was
times where I asked, what was like, Damn, am I
going crazy? Because I was paying attention to the shock
of people, the negatives. The negatives is what I was
paying attention to, family, losing friends, everything right. And then

(13:52):
I asked myself like, well, how do you feel? And
I was like, well, I feel good. And I was like,
well that's all I need to focus. You know who's
going to be for me? Will we'll continue to support
or be there. It definitely helped with the mental health
part because it was times where I would wake up
and just I was I was lacking a lot of

(14:12):
like self love and I'm a and and a lot
of people who knows me and have relationships with me
they know I'm I'm I'm a really like good hearted person.
I'm a giver I family friends, you know, I give
a stranger something if I got to you know what
I'm saying. So I just needed to pour that into myself.
I wasn't doing. I was putting myself last, giving myself
the short end of the stick on every on everything,
any blessing I got, I was just giving it away,

(14:35):
you know. So I had to learn to be a
little selfish this time around, and like, you know, let
me see if I try a different way, what will
be the reward? You know? So you know, my my
cousin he always told me this quote and he said,
if you do what's hard, your life will be easy.

Speaker 7 (14:52):
If you do what's easy, then your life will be hard.

Speaker 8 (14:55):
And that stuck with me, you know, and this was
a hard place that I had to overcome, like for
years and years, you know, And I say, you know what,
let me just own it, because once you own it,
what can people really say?

Speaker 7 (15:08):
Everything else is just you just numb, numb to certain things.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
So you know, how did you come to I guess
embody this version like this?

Speaker 7 (15:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (15:19):
Like what why the dog? Why the good boy?

Speaker 1 (15:23):
Like?

Speaker 3 (15:23):
What is that?

Speaker 2 (15:24):
How does that correlate to who you are? And also
my other question is how do you when do you
feel most powerful when you're in the mask or.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
With good?

Speaker 7 (15:36):
Good question, good question.

Speaker 8 (15:38):
I feel most powerful obviously when when the mask is off,
because of my worth, because of everything I put into
myself and what people know me for right, because I
could use it, you can use you know what I'm
say as you should, right. But this is why I
feel safe, This is why I feel protect. This is
why I feel like I'm not happy to please nobody

(16:01):
by myself when I go outside, when I show this face,
like when I travel, I purposely wear the pushisty ski
mask and glasses because I don't want no one even
notice me to bother me. I just want to get
treated normally. Sometimes it's hard to get treated normally when
people know you for so much. You know, it can
give you a little I mean it get it's perks,
don't get me wrong, but it could be a headache

(16:23):
at times like okay, bro, all right, you know, and
it put me in a box, like I said, So
you know this how the dog really came about, you know,
was also you know the mindset of a dog, right,
They're loyal, they're no good energy, they're no bad energy.

Speaker 7 (16:42):
They sense that, you know, and dog is man's best friend,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 8 (16:48):
So for me, it's like those are a lot of
my traits that I have with people and with self,
you know what I'm saying. I can sense energy very well,
you know what I mean. So this was for something
that was more so for me. Of course, I've been
into like the BDSM community and were you.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
Were you into the BDSM community. Prior to embodying this character, I.

Speaker 8 (17:10):
Would say I would say yes or no, because at
the time when I was having these experiences with women,
I didn't know what it was. I didn't know it
was a community. I just thought it was a kink,
you know. Okay, she a little freaky, you know what
I'm saying. And then you start going to like Exotica
or all these like poor and conventions, and you start
seeing like, oh, okay, so it's a tribe of people,

(17:32):
you know what I mean.

Speaker 7 (17:32):
So then I started just learning more, you know what
I'm saying, and just with.

Speaker 3 (17:37):
The mask always part of your.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
Experiences or had it been or had you know.

Speaker 7 (17:44):
The masag just kind of came. Man, I don't know,
it just called me. It just it shows me.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
And did you make this yourself? Because this is beautiful.
It's very well made.

Speaker 7 (17:53):
It shows me. Yeah, it it's my face.

Speaker 8 (17:54):
I didn't make this one, but I do have one
right now being made. I can't wait to release it.
But actually, with masks like this, you know, changed like this,
and even even if the vest on whan like like
I'm opening up a sex store. So these will be
some of the products that people will be able to
go by. But for me, it wasn't really about the

(18:17):
sex store to sell products. I just wanted to have
a safe space where people could feel welcome and they
could be themselves, you know. And I have my team
for the professionals that can teach people, you know, or
learn more about whatever they're into, the stuff that I
may not know about, you know. So it's just so
a place where people can feel, you know, especially our culture,
the black culture.

Speaker 7 (18:36):
I feel like we're the ones that need it the most,
you know.

Speaker 8 (18:39):
So if I couldn't find nobody to look up to,
so I said, let me be the person. Like I
literally I sure I was looking for somebody to be like, yeah,
you know, I needed something to attach my name with.
But I couldn't, you know, So I like, I gotta
just to jump off the cliff and just, you know,
see what happens.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
So where's your story going to be?

Speaker 7 (18:58):
That's why I'm trying to figure out now I'm up
and around so much.

Speaker 8 (19:01):
It was going to be in Dallas at first, because
that's why I've been, But you don't, I really don't know.
I guess I'm waiting for it. I'm waiting for it
to just feel right, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
like some of my friends in Chicago. But I'm not
going to do in the Chicago New York. Yeah, I
gotta be somewhere fun like you know what I'm saying,
weather nice like vibes like you know, Chicago people are.

Speaker 5 (19:24):
Going to come to gather. Would you consider yourself a
sub or?

Speaker 8 (19:29):
I really like a switch. Like when I take this
mask off, I get active. Okay, I really like that.
I really like the mask. I could be like that really,
but it's all about it.

Speaker 7 (19:41):
I get active. I mean, I'm put it down. I
ain't gonna play no games.

Speaker 5 (19:44):
Is that you embody the dots?

Speaker 2 (19:48):
Are you someone that? Do you have another name for
yourself when you're in that? When when you're getting active.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
And the mask?

Speaker 7 (19:56):
I mean, so it depends. So check this out. So
another kink about me?

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Right, that's the only character you got? You got some
other ones hidden under there? Yeah, you got some secret
characters under there for Can.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
You tell us some of the characters and how did
you discover them?

Speaker 5 (20:09):
You know, I think people like I think sometimes when
you're not open minded and you're only like with vanilla sex,
and you've only done missionary and when the dark and
you think it's fair to be naked in front of
yourself and shit like that, and you've been like brainwashed
by the religion.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
Oh me personally, let them nomula, you tell.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
Them, because people are right now are like do I
like that?

Speaker 3 (20:28):
No? No, no, And then it's like, no, let your
mind wander.

Speaker 8 (20:31):
They don't want to like it because they don't have
a nation of people that say yes proudly.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
You know, there's a group of women watching right now
that are looking at you and judging you. But there's
also a group of women that are looking at you
and being like, oh would I do if I saw
this nigga walk up to me in the dark.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
You know, and handy, what I do? What ill colored? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (20:54):
Yeah, And that's what it's about, is the is the
openness that not everything has.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
To be your shit.

Speaker 7 (20:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (20:59):
And I tell people it's like like like for me,
like it's not about telling the world about what I
like or what I do. It is actually it's more
so like my mission is just to let people know
to just be yourself, free yourself, be yourself.

Speaker 7 (21:13):
That's it. That's it.

Speaker 8 (21:16):
Like nothing else, Like I wish I could change who
I am, but I can't. You know what I'm saying,
I'd rather accept it, and I tried to change. It's
been times, I swear it's been time. It's been times.
I've literally tried to go on.

Speaker 7 (21:27):
Like you know how.

Speaker 8 (21:27):
Sometimes people do like a cleanse, right seven day cleans
or whatever you want to call it, or they say
it takes twenty one days to get ready of bad
habits or whatever. I tried all those things, and I
tried to I tried to remove the.

Speaker 7 (21:44):
Yeah I did. I tried to take the dog out
of me, the freak out of me.

Speaker 8 (21:48):
I tried to really, like I really have to, like,
you know what, let me today's gonna be the day,
you know? Yeah, Like that's why I was that said,
you know what, because I didn't feel like I had
the protection to feel like it's okay. You know, it's
not like I'm not I'm out here pedophiling, killing people,

(22:10):
selling drugs. I'm not doing none of those things, you know,
So it's like, why am I shaming something about myself?
You know when it's not like I'm doing anything to harm.

Speaker 3 (22:20):
Anyone and not getting rich over there on only.

Speaker 7 (22:23):
Fans you know what I'm saying. That's another story.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
Girls are putting more objects in their face and walking
around on the earth.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
People have fake shit in their bodies. You know, I'm
going to foreign countries to get to be cut open, to.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
Get this is a beautiful leather math leather math, leather math.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
It beautifully.

Speaker 7 (22:51):
This is my this is my baby.

Speaker 8 (22:52):
Like at one point I thought I lost it and
I was going crazy, going crazy.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
Wait, have you ever fucked a girl? And like another
like another doggy mask, like she had her own dog.

Speaker 8 (23:05):
I'm getting to play, now, what about a cat mask?

Speaker 7 (23:07):
Yeah, yeah, I'm getting to play.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
You know. So it is not a yes or no.

Speaker 7 (23:10):
It's on the way.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
It's on the way.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
I love the manifest to tell you, like we need
women like I don't know whoever needs caddiers.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
We need like I.

Speaker 5 (23:17):
Always wanted the tail that like moves mechanically, like with
your body.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
Yeah, like I just wanted to be able to.

Speaker 7 (23:24):
Yeah, you might need to invent this.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
I want it. You know, you can charge a lot
of money. I only got to sell like a one
hundred everything at this point.

Speaker 7 (23:33):
You know.

Speaker 8 (23:33):
And another thing that got me into the mask also,
like I'm really big on horror, like I love I
love scary movies. So I got all the Michael Myers
and Freddie Couger's and all that, you know, So I
always was into that.

Speaker 7 (23:48):
That that all to ego, you know, type of persona.
So here I am.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
What's your favorite horror film?

Speaker 7 (23:57):
Hm? Hmmm.

Speaker 8 (23:58):
Just depends on what type of horror we talking about.
Are we talking more so like based on true story?

Speaker 3 (24:03):
We're talking about psychological thriller.

Speaker 8 (24:05):
Like like Michael Myers stuff like that, Michael Halloween. That's
my boy, that's my boy.

Speaker 7 (24:13):
What about you?

Speaker 2 (24:16):
I like suspense horror because I really want to like,
I want to go, I want to scream.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
I want to be like held.

Speaker 5 (24:23):
I don't believe it can maybe happen like Psycho the
original that was shining.

Speaker 8 (24:29):
Have y'all seen this movie that's it's called Unhinged?

Speaker 7 (24:33):
No, please watch it tonight?

Speaker 3 (24:34):
Is it? It has to be? Because I feel like.

Speaker 7 (24:36):
It's unhinged like you said it suspense and.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
I feel like it's a new term and you.

Speaker 8 (24:40):
Say this could possibly happen to you. Watch the movie
Unhinged tonight, please?

Speaker 5 (24:44):
You know, you know I like to love horror and
I still do. I love Halloween, but as an adult,
I'm like, I.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
Don't like watching it.

Speaker 5 (24:49):
Already regular stress with like regular life, and so when
I want to turn some shit on leisurely, I'm like,
am I gonna really leisurely?

Speaker 3 (24:57):
Just be like I I will.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
That's what came out energy there with me who's spending
the night? I don't want to watch horror as a
woman by myself and go to bed, No, because I
will have a nightmare. I have nightmares when I say time,
and that's part of the horror that I like about it.
It's kind of dark. I like watching horror films and
then having nightmares about it.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
But I don't want to wake up alone.

Speaker 7 (25:18):
Yeah, yeah, I hate that. I understand for sure.

Speaker 3 (25:21):
I want you to save me from my own. We
cannot tour a night or even spend the night.

Speaker 8 (25:25):
I'm telling you, hear just not. And it's not a
scary movie. But it's a really good suspense movie. Okay,
like it's a really good movie.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
How old are you?

Speaker 7 (25:35):
How do I need to be.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
As long as you're over twenty five?

Speaker 2 (25:38):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (25:38):
Yeah, for sure?

Speaker 3 (25:40):
Over thirty, yes, ma'am forty?

Speaker 7 (25:42):
No?

Speaker 3 (25:42):
When's your birthday?

Speaker 7 (25:44):
Twenty first?

Speaker 3 (25:44):
In March.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
This is the areas.

Speaker 7 (25:49):
I'm right on the cuss first day areas.

Speaker 8 (25:50):
Yeah, twenty first I thought I was a pisty my
whole life because my grandmother's birthday is the day before minds.

Speaker 7 (25:58):
So she's a piscy. So I'm like a yeah, okay,
on whatever. Whatever.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
What do you feel?

Speaker 2 (26:01):
Do you relate to the stars and the astrological signs?

Speaker 3 (26:04):
Now you realize that?

Speaker 8 (26:07):
And from what I hear, From what I hear, you know,
I feel like I mean, for me, it seems like
because I dated Aris, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (26:16):
So I feel like aries are very sexual, freaky people.

Speaker 3 (26:20):
I feel like, do you know what your moon and
your rising are?

Speaker 7 (26:24):
No, I haven't tapped in all day.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
Give me your birthday and time of date birth date.
Just tell us all of your give us your social
We don't need your social All I need is your
time of birth. Speaking of whitchy things in astrology, would
you mind pulling a card first, we're gonna we're gonna
read it at the end of the session. Close your

(26:50):
eyes and select one to see where the energy guides
are smoking. These cookies I keep for getting an indicate
like when you stop backing like I smoke in the
good day. Okay, okay, pick it.

Speaker 7 (27:02):
Up, turn it over.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
Yeah, I tell y'all, yeah, I love black people, like
should I tell?

Speaker 4 (27:15):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (27:15):
Okay?

Speaker 7 (27:20):
M hm?

Speaker 2 (27:21):
Two of swords? Okay, Well we'll investigate this later.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
Your dad, right, yep? How how you have one child?

Speaker 7 (27:32):
Yeah? My son is two.

Speaker 3 (27:34):
Oh you're a new daddy, ingratulations, welcome.

Speaker 7 (27:37):
Daddy, new father. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
What does that mean?

Speaker 7 (27:40):
Daddy? You know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
That's what the fun I'm talking about my father. So
to clarify for those listenings to a small child one, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
How's been how's father had been to you?

Speaker 8 (27:56):
You know, started off a little rocky, but it's been
great white rocky cause it's just intense. Uh, it's yeah,
definitely intense getting to an understanding you know with uh,
you know, his mother, things like that, you know, going
through the trials and trip relations. But we you know,
worked out a lot of kings and you know, we
back on track. So yeah, but far as like with

(28:17):
me and my son, from the moment he was out
the womb, we've been locked like you know, mm yeah,
he a happy baby too, So my and my son
is is he's like beautiful and he's so smart, so fast.
Like sometimes I'll be like questioning, like, man, how old
are you for real? Like you haven't seen a movie
that the omen with like somebody like oh they look young,
but they really old. Yeah, that's how my son. He

(28:39):
would get the talking and saying stuff, I man, how
old are you for real? You know, I'll be tripping.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
Myself out believe people can like have passed lives.

Speaker 8 (28:48):
Well, I know he can't, cause I saw him produced,
you know what I'm saying, saw how he came out
the womb, But I don't know. I mean, yeah, it's
actually a true story about that. There's one this one,
this one lady did this. I forgot her name, but
it's they they had They had the story on I
think Netflix. It's about this little girl where we thought
she was a little girl. She got adopted from like uh,

(29:08):
I want to say London maybe, and they brought her over.
Somebody adopted her. You know, they had this girl around
their kids and everything, and to come to find out
she was like really like twenty five or something like that.
So she grew into the family with them thinking how
thinking she was this little girl, you know what.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
Was she like a dwarf?

Speaker 7 (29:28):
Yeah, she was like a dwarf. Yeah, yeah, she couldn't grow.

Speaker 8 (29:31):
But but but she used to lie about her age
and say she was like she used to lie by
her age and say she was like like five or
six or something.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
Like that, so she could stay in the families.

Speaker 8 (29:41):
So what they started doing, Yeah, so what they started
doing was they started bringing her around other five year olds,
like you know, and they start comparing the sizes like
like you know, like hold on, you know.

Speaker 7 (29:51):
Certain features, certain details, you.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
Know what I mean?

Speaker 8 (29:54):
So that that's something I forgot the name. I'm gonna
look it up and I'm gonna let y'all know. But
it was a real story. It's a real story.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
I mean, I might do it to take care of
me as long as I gonna do it.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
Look like a little girl, I can't do much. They
left me here. I'm fine.

Speaker 7 (30:12):
She did. She did like three families.

Speaker 3 (30:15):
Survival cheers, the survival.

Speaker 5 (30:19):
Cheers for sure, even if it's like.

Speaker 7 (30:24):
Even if you've got a lot of kick, it for sure.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
M So, what would you say is the hardest lesson
you've had to learn so far about fatherhood?

Speaker 7 (30:39):
You said the harder lesson than father so far.

Speaker 8 (30:42):
I mean, it's simple, man, it ain't about me no more,
you know what I'm saying. It's not just about me,
you know, but I enjoy it for me like it
made me want to It made me resett and want
to turn up more, you know, go harder.

Speaker 7 (30:58):
You know.

Speaker 8 (30:58):
It's like even days my think about you know, slacking
or just want to.

Speaker 7 (31:02):
Be lazy and lay back. I get up and think
about that.

Speaker 8 (31:04):
So it's actually another motivation, you know what, I mean,
to keep me going.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
You feel, has your son seen you as this dog?

Speaker 7 (31:13):
See my son love? It's so crazy.

Speaker 8 (31:15):
I think my son is going to be somewhat similar
to me, like as far as just like what the
way of thinking artistic. Like the other day, randomly, his
mom was taking him to my mom's house to watch
him right and out of nowhere, out of nowhere, he
picked out what he wanted to wear, right and it

(31:37):
was his Batman costume from Halloween. Because he dressed up
as Batman and I was like Superman. And when he
when he told her he did, that's what he really
wanted to wear this day, they let him wear. You know,
he called me like daddy, I'm Batman, so I'm like
he tapping into that alter ego like so it was
like for me, it was just like wow, Like you know,
I looked at it like that, like he has a

(31:58):
you know, personality of that I can relate to. That's
like you I saw a little bit of me and
that you know, sense of humor. So it was cool
to just see him getting character like that. You know,
I haven't wore this mass surroundable yet or before. But
he loves animals, you know what I'm saying. He loves
a lot of animal So if I know my son,
if he's seen me with this, he'll probably try to

(32:18):
take it off, just like you know what I'm saying,
see what I'm hiding. He even when I wear glasses
or hats, he take everything off my face, you know.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
So, yeah, have you thought about how you would talk
to your son about like how you show up publicly?

Speaker 7 (32:33):
We'll see. That's the thing I wanted to jump.

Speaker 8 (32:36):
I figured it was now an never for me, right,
my son is young, he's too right, There's gonna be
so much.

Speaker 7 (32:43):
Going on in the next few years as he gets older.

Speaker 8 (32:48):
And I was just like, you know, I'd rather take
this approach now before he gets too too older, I
mean too old, you know, and then I have to
start explaining it, like you know, he's he's not obviously
the Internet on Instagram and stuff like that.

Speaker 7 (33:02):
You know.

Speaker 8 (33:02):
Then I feel like the world we're growing in now,
there's gonna be so much more going on and everything
now is a lot of things are more open now.
I feel like, so my word would be to my son.
You know, he could be so much better than me.
Nothing has to be anything like me, but to be yourself.

Speaker 7 (33:20):
I wanted.

Speaker 8 (33:20):
My goal is to make sure that we have that
connection to always know what's going on mentally whatever he's
curious about things like that, you know, That's what I'm
more cared about. You know what I'm saying. If you
want to dress up as Batman until he twenty, go ahead.
You know what I'm saying that.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
Your kids will be reminders of play. Like remember when
you like your child, you say when you see him,
you see some of you and him, But it's probably
like that is you as a child as well, like
the person that can play and stay in that in
that world of play and pleasure like.

Speaker 8 (33:56):
Balance, Yeah, like like life don't have to always be
so serious, like you have to always be so so
much of an adult.

Speaker 7 (34:02):
You forget to have fun, you know what I mean.

Speaker 8 (34:03):
I feel like that's what a lot of people that
I've been seeing lately, you know, all right, where.

Speaker 7 (34:08):
They're just old and they become grumps.

Speaker 8 (34:12):
You know, you just mathing o. Really your life, man,
have fun. It's okay to smile, it's okay to kick it.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
Just the dog chilling over here? What's with you?

Speaker 7 (34:21):
It's crazy?

Speaker 2 (34:22):
Do you so like is your is this mask I
guess sexual? Or is it just does it have both?
Does it embody both sides?

Speaker 8 (34:30):
I mean it may turn women on, but for you
this is you see, I'm you know, I'm in street
clothes chilling.

Speaker 7 (34:38):
You know, this is just why I feel like the
most whole.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
And I think that's also like the confusion too around
like I guess the dress up of something or like
the looking like something. It's like it's not necessarily always
this sexual thing.

Speaker 3 (34:53):
It's both.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
Like this is where I feel like my whole is self. Literally,
you know, it connects both sides.

Speaker 8 (35:00):
I literally go like I live my life like this daily,
Like I just go outside, don't.

Speaker 3 (35:04):
You know the grocery store like that.

Speaker 7 (35:05):
Well, luckily I don't grocery shop.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
Oh yeah, we love that, butts.

Speaker 7 (35:13):
Luckily I don't grocery shop. You know what I'm saying.
I get I get too confused. There's too much in
the hours, there's too much stuff. I get crazy.

Speaker 8 (35:20):
Yeah, but yeah, I just go where I just, like
I said, a lot of spots. I go to a
pet friendly, so you know, no one really bothers me
or people if they do see me out. Some people
just feel like they gotta record, they gotta take pictures
because it's an unseen world to you know, to a
certain type of person.

Speaker 7 (35:39):
So I get it.

Speaker 8 (35:40):
I take everything that comes with it, but I don't
I don't feel any way about it, you know what
I mean, Because I'm comfortable, you know what I mean. So,
but I don't do it all the time. You know,
sometimes the mask comes, you know.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
Fifty yeah, yeah, yeah, yea yeah, well sixty forty sixty.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
You're handsome under there, yeah see you you know.

Speaker 7 (36:03):
See. So, like I said, I've been trying to.

Speaker 8 (36:09):
Rebrand myself so like you know, so for me, right,
I pay attention to like engagement, engagement, like the world
we in now as big numbers are big, right, So
business wise, I pay attention to numbers.

Speaker 7 (36:22):
Right, So.

Speaker 8 (36:25):
I could look at a part of me that they've
already accepted, and it may be okay, engagement because they
they are that's just for Oh, there's just another tattoo.

Speaker 7 (36:37):
Ah, that's just another song. Right.

Speaker 8 (36:41):
And then when I transform, you know, and I come
alive now, it's like, oh, you know, it's so it's
like for me, it's like I see the reward in
what I'm doing, so it's like, okay, well, I gotta
be doing something right. As much as you hate it,
you love it. You feel me as much as you
hated You love me seriously, so I don't really you know.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
And I feel good here, lute.

Speaker 7 (37:08):
It works. It's good that you called it, checked up
on me now. You know.

Speaker 5 (37:12):
It's definitely a practice of shedding the criticism because you
always got something to say if I'm this, if I'm this,
But I feel feel good here.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
And.

Speaker 7 (37:22):
Like the most you're gonna like you are gonna run out.

Speaker 8 (37:25):
Of everything you can say before you know what I'm saying,
give up who I am?

Speaker 3 (37:31):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 8 (37:31):
You're gonna say everything in a book and then after that,
what else? So I do, like, if all I have
to deal with is words, and that's it, you go
run out of words. You got to start speaking in
a whole other language. And at that point, I'm not
gonna understand it, you know what I'm saying. So that's
just how I feel.

Speaker 7 (37:48):
You know, I.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
Wanted to ask you.

Speaker 5 (37:50):
You said, like finding your tribe, you know, has made
a big difference.

Speaker 3 (37:54):
And we talk about that a lot, but I don't
I really hear men.

Speaker 5 (37:56):
Talk about that, and especially as a black man, especially
you know in this world of B D, S, M
and kink where it's not you know, we haven't really
dabbled in that. How have you felt like your tribe
has embraced you? And like, what is it mostly like
black men?

Speaker 3 (38:12):
Like have you? You know what I mean?

Speaker 7 (38:14):
Man, it's been crazy. Let me take this drink.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
It's been crazy.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
Let's take a Teers to the tribe, to the tribe.
Cheers to the tribe.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
Right now, we tribe.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
We have our own tribes, and then the tribes come together.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
Listen, you can do whatever you want over here as
long as you're happy. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (38:35):
Yeah, So when it came to the tribe part, at first,
at first, I didn't know what was going to happen.

Speaker 8 (38:43):
I just like, you know what, it's me against the world,
and I'm going to war about myself. Right That's literally
where I was at. And when I tell you, so
many people called and reached out. I'm talking about people
that you wouldn't even expect, you know, and they and

(39:04):
they welcomed me, and they embraced me, and.

Speaker 7 (39:06):
They let me know, like, yo, you were literally living
for me. You know.

Speaker 8 (39:10):
They're like I couldn't you know, because either the way
they was raised, you know, or the job or you know,
the religion they but they was giving me the deepest
you know, secrets and they was letting me know like
you know, they felt safe with me, you know. So
for me, it was like I got embraced in ways

(39:32):
where I'm like, damn if I never took this leap
of faith, Like I wasn't getting this type of reward.
I mean when I spoke on mental health, yeah, people
reached out, but this was different.

Speaker 7 (39:40):
You know.

Speaker 8 (39:41):
It was like, Yo, these are like deep secrets and
fantasies people don't get to talk about. We get to
talk about mental health, you know, people don't get to
talk about this side, you know.

Speaker 7 (39:49):
So when I got the reward like that, a lot.

Speaker 8 (39:53):
A lot of people in the Key community, they looked
at me as a voice right away because of my
platform I already had, you know, like you can grow
a big fan base in that world. But that's just
for that world. I have a lot of I wear
a lot of hats, so you know, my my audience
is different, you know what I mean. So I welcome
a lot of other people in so they protect me.
Like every time I put a post up, it's as

(40:15):
much as I may get some hate or backlash, it's
people in there protecting me. So it's like I don't
even got to say something sometimes because I know my
people gonna take off of me. Who understand me, you know.
So that's what it feels. That's that's what feels good
to me, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
So I understand that.

Speaker 7 (40:29):
Yeah, so I didn't even realize my position. You feel me.
I'm just being me. They're like, nah, bro, You're like
you're a light. You're the light, you know, you know.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
And I think about just people need that, they need
representation in that way, just like they may not embody that,
but they just need just to see that to know
that damn I can. If he can do that, then
I can just be ten percent of me right now. Shit, yep,
you know, And that's that's inspirational.

Speaker 8 (40:56):
And that's just where I'm at. Like I want to
feel I want to feel unstoppable. I want to feel
like I'm in control. I want to feel like it's
okay to be yourself. You know, a lot of people
live for other people. I've done that before, you know,
not saying that this part mattered, but I'm saying I've
done that part where it's like pouring into an empty cup,

(41:20):
you know, where it wasn't refeeling me.

Speaker 7 (41:22):
But you know, I I love it. I'm happy.

Speaker 8 (41:25):
I'm If I never took this, this this risk, this chance,
like I wouldn't even be here talking to you guys,
you know me. So I appreciate every opportunity, you know
what I'm saying, Every platform that I've been able to
speak on, to talk to like minded people, you know
what I mean, Because like I said.

Speaker 7 (41:44):
Even with me, it was a it was a it
was a.

Speaker 8 (41:46):
Quiet conversations I'm having with myself, you know, like, yeah,
I can't talk to that like like it is my
best friend.

Speaker 7 (41:52):
But I can't, you know, because we.

Speaker 8 (41:54):
Talked about it. Because that's another thing. If I was
like if I was Caucasian, no wonder.

Speaker 3 (42:04):
Like Rick Owens.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
Literally he's giving Rick going through a season.

Speaker 8 (42:12):
You feel me, They get a past, they get a
past with everything. Yeah, I mean so for me, it
was just like you know, like this ain't about color man,
and that's about just being yourself.

Speaker 5 (42:26):
Being this existing and knowing that is enough and that
is okay. Doesn't have to be a secret and doesn't
have to be behind closed doors. If you don't feel
that way, you don't have anything to be ashamed of.
In fact, the best version of you is just exactly
as you are, and that's how you find your people.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
It's like putting out a that is how you find you.
How you have to be yourself, Like listen, I'm a
little I'm a little wild. How about you here?

Speaker 7 (42:48):
It's okay?

Speaker 8 (42:50):
Yeah, you know, like people tell me so I got
it's so crazy because I got so much tea on
people now.

Speaker 7 (42:56):
Not that I even want it talking you want it,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 8 (43:00):
Sometimes people call and me like hey I heard about Hey,
don't say nothing. I'm just like okay, But it's not
certain things. It's not a big deal to me. No
one's like, Okay, that's what you care about, all right,
that's normal.

Speaker 7 (43:12):
Over here right right, you know.

Speaker 8 (43:13):
That's like you know, like literally somebody told me yesterday,
like just this dude, I just Matt. He's into the
point industry. He's like, you know, I do porn. You know,
I still do. I'm still in the streets.

Speaker 7 (43:27):
Though, you know.

Speaker 8 (43:28):
He's like, I do porn, you know, but it's some
stuff I don't film. And I was like, well, what
do you what don't you put on camera? He's like,
I don't put me get my ass because I'm still
in the streets.

Speaker 7 (43:38):
And I was like, and I was like, hey, I
saw I.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
Said, that's a real NA Like I'm you know, I'm
open minded because I'm doing porn.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
But this is about heart boundary right here. I feel you.

Speaker 7 (43:51):
He's like, man, I still get it.

Speaker 3 (43:53):
I still get it. I get it. I get it.

Speaker 7 (43:57):
You know.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
The black lines, the black lines, what we play is
a hard line in the sand, legs up or bent over.
It's just in the black book.

Speaker 7 (44:06):
Of I don't care. I don't care.

Speaker 8 (44:09):
I'm going I'm going legs up and and I'm going.

Speaker 3 (44:13):
Nine, but they're just not talking about.

Speaker 7 (44:16):
Yeah, I noticed, I noticed. I noticed.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
Well, speaking of which, so, what's what's going on your
only fans? What's happening over there, sir? I mean, what
should be doing over there?

Speaker 3 (44:37):
What? Petting? Pegging, pegging? Okay, like hard huh it's like
hardcore is like sensual?

Speaker 7 (44:43):
Yeah? Hard?

Speaker 3 (44:46):
Is that with men or women or both? That's yeah,
that would make sense.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
Ye yeah, yeah, you maybe spoke this quickie and.

Speaker 8 (44:57):
Now I'm high, but no, so oh yeah, pegging?

Speaker 3 (45:04):
Do it?

Speaker 2 (45:04):
So is that something you really enjoy? And what is
the best and what are some tips for guys that
want to get pegged?

Speaker 3 (45:10):
Like? What are like some yeah? Okay, so how do
you prepare?

Speaker 2 (45:15):
And I don't even think I don't even think any
men know how to do that because the.

Speaker 7 (45:18):
Thing is just I never It wasn't nothing that I
just came up with.

Speaker 8 (45:22):
It happened over time with me dealing with partners and
just being open like Okay, if I'm going to date
this girl and she's into what she's into, all I
could do is accept it or not and just be
open minded for my partner. So you know, I've had
just like a different caliber women that was into different
things like eating ass that should happened to me when
I was like seventeen.

Speaker 3 (45:44):
You say you attract more dominant women.

Speaker 7 (45:47):
Maybe I mean not by fault, but just I guess
it just is what it.

Speaker 3 (45:51):
Is, or do you Yeah, maybe you Ieergetically.

Speaker 8 (45:55):
Yeah, it's an energy thing, you know, energy exchange. But
I think if that's the case, it is what it is.
You know, I ain't ducking it. I mean I've definitely
had some very submissive women too that you know, they
go do whatever full say, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (46:07):
So if.

Speaker 8 (46:10):
Yeah, for those type of women at that point, I'm
already experienced in certain fields. So she wants to please me.
So this is the way I like to be pleased,
and it may please her to know that she's pleasing me,
you know what I'm saying. So yeah, but I do
prefer dominant women. I just like to I don't know,
I just get to kick out of like I don't know,

(46:31):
like like a woman in control.

Speaker 7 (46:34):
All women that talk to me crazy, you know what.

Speaker 3 (46:36):
I'm saying, Like shut the fuck up, yes, ma'am.

Speaker 7 (46:38):
Yeah, but in a sexual way, Yeah, for sure, Like
I like that you.

Speaker 3 (46:42):
Know what I'm say, she's much better at that than I.

Speaker 8 (46:45):
Yeah, but like I don't know, okay, Like I like
to be amiliated and everything, Like I just get spit
on all kind of stuff.

Speaker 3 (46:50):
Wow, in public live shows.

Speaker 6 (46:53):
I'm pissed if this no not a stranger though, of
course if I'm connected with the yeah yeah, yeah, like
you can do whatever you're gonna do to me, because
you know, if we swapping spit anyway, the same way,
would you let us we ain't swapping spit.

Speaker 3 (47:10):
Come on, I'm trustworthy.

Speaker 7 (47:12):
You said you ain't even like that. You said you
like that.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
You just said one quickie and one tequila and this
bit just a dumb I'm a safe space for okay, Yeah,
I feel you.

Speaker 3 (47:25):
I'm kind of like, if we're gonna do it, let's
do it. It's going all the way.

Speaker 8 (47:29):
Yeah, it's like no, No, I like to have fun,
I think because I lost my virginity at at an
early age fourteen okay fourteen?

Speaker 3 (47:39):
You know why are you laughing over there? Nigga?

Speaker 7 (47:42):
Late?

Speaker 3 (47:44):
You know I was how old was I? I was thirteen? God?

Speaker 2 (47:47):
I was thirteen.

Speaker 4 (47:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (47:49):
He got me to a place of like me being
just like.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
I was.

Speaker 7 (47:55):
I guess advanced.

Speaker 8 (47:56):
You know what I'm saying, because I had at an
early age each you know, I was I was eating
pussy when I didn't know what I was really doing,
you know what I'm saying, But it was I took
yeah for sure voluntarily.

Speaker 7 (48:09):
Yeah, yeah, I was. I was. I was curious, what
is that? What it tastes like? You know? Any who?

Speaker 8 (48:15):
I just always any who always just always just been
advanced to what I'm saying. So the more the more
older I got, they say, the older you get, the
freaking you get.

Speaker 7 (48:25):
That's what they say.

Speaker 3 (48:28):
That is not always that's what they say.

Speaker 7 (48:30):
Let's just say what they say.

Speaker 3 (48:31):
That's what they want.

Speaker 7 (48:31):
I don't even know who that is, but that's what people.

Speaker 3 (48:35):
Have a conversation with that. Are you listening that? Listen?

Speaker 5 (48:40):
Some people just stay square their whole lives, absolutely, and
some people just have the natural inclination to be curious.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
People get some people get square. I'm telling you, they
get they're freaky and then they get square.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
It's weird.

Speaker 7 (48:52):
Yeah, I guess.

Speaker 8 (48:53):
Like for me, I always just wanted to know, like
I know, its levels to this ship, you know, So
I was like, let me just figure out what's the
next level, Like, let me just see how like how
high or how much further we can go into and
just exploring each other's bodies and you know, climaxing at
the highest power. Yeah, even if even I say, even

(49:17):
on the giving end, you know what I'm saying. So
it's just like I want I'm a big pleaser. So
you know, I was always into trying to figure out
other ways to make a woman go crazy.

Speaker 7 (49:29):
You know what I'm saying. I I I could I
get a kick out of that.

Speaker 3 (49:32):
Yeah, pleasure giving and receiving it.

Speaker 7 (49:35):
Yeah, So you know that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 8 (49:37):
That's that's really where I was ever things, you know
what I'm saying in life, I mean still I'm still there.

Speaker 7 (49:41):
I'm still learning.

Speaker 3 (49:42):
You know, do you do you have an affirmation for
the people?

Speaker 7 (49:49):
Yeah, it's a few, but every dog at this day, every.

Speaker 3 (50:01):
Every dog gets his day.

Speaker 8 (50:03):
Yeah, I feel like I've been having a few of them.

Speaker 3 (50:08):
What does that mean?

Speaker 8 (50:09):
I've heard it's it's just more for me, it's just
more so it means like everybody gets their turn. You know,
you got to sometimes be patient for you, for you,
for your blessings that you're about to receive, you know.
So for me, it's just like I used to be
really impatient because you could want something so bad, but
it's gonna come when it's supposed to, you know what
I'm saying. So like this energy I've received, this is
feel It feels better than any amount of money, any

(50:31):
any amount of success that I've ever received. You feel me,
I feel I never felt.

Speaker 3 (50:36):
So alive because it's to who you are.

Speaker 7 (50:39):
Yeah, I feel so alive, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (50:41):
That beautiful.

Speaker 8 (50:42):
That's the thing, Like, like, that's why I think people
are mad or upset because I just feel so alive.
Where you can't even control this, so you have to
find a reason to dislike it, you know. And that's
totally fine too. I'm not here to really please no
one but myself right.

Speaker 3 (50:56):
Now, you know or ever.

Speaker 7 (50:58):
Well, I used to be a people please a big.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
Time congratulations on living a full life at least in
that department. If you can get over that part, the
other ship is so much easier just being yourself and honestly,
then you're still gonna have hiccups.

Speaker 3 (51:16):
But that's the hardest part really.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
When someone can tell you something about yourself and maybe
like yeah, listen, that might I might, I might have
other things I might do this, that might be that, Like, I.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
Don't know who you are.

Speaker 5 (51:26):
You can't really be offended with some do. But I'm
not mad about those parts. I mean you are.

Speaker 7 (51:31):
Yeah, So do you feel like when people are like that?
Is that like self reflection or.

Speaker 3 (51:36):
Abso's a projection.

Speaker 5 (51:37):
It's a projection of parts of them that they can't access.
It's a projection of parts of them that they don't
feel that they can be either.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
You're going to be inspired. It's also very learned fear learned.
We've been also been deeply ingrained with this fear around
anything out of what we've deemed normal, what our society
is deemed normal, acceptable, godly worthy, all those.

Speaker 3 (51:59):
Things masculine, feminine, wife.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
Like you know you said wife like wife like wife
like wife materials.

Speaker 7 (52:10):
What you say. I want to make sure I heard
it correct.

Speaker 3 (52:12):
It's probably a better word for that.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
But wait, so before we get out of here for
because we got to get you out of here, little
boy or good boy, God, I'm gonna get better at
this one day, I'm gonna be a good go.

Speaker 3 (52:25):
To dom school like and it's fit.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
I spake to bath earlier, and I was like, are
you okay, okay, do you have a horry that you
can share with us?

Speaker 3 (52:36):
Do you know what?

Speaker 2 (52:37):
Ye all?

Speaker 3 (52:39):
Right time, guys, man, let me think.

Speaker 8 (52:46):
Okay, okay, So this was this is a minute ago,
but it stuck with me. So this girl wanted me
to come over her house. I went over there and she, uh,
she wants to do anal for the first time, you know.

(53:07):
And before we got to that point, you know what
I'm saying, we had uh, you know, we were just
having you know, regular sex, you know, in the vagina
and stuff like.

Speaker 3 (53:17):
That, you know, regular.

Speaker 8 (53:22):
It just really I just remember, I just remember this
moment because like I went right on shrimp right after this.
It was like we I was having sex with her
whatever it was in the daytime, and I'm having sex
with her and randomly We're just having sex on like
clean clothes like she had just like took the clothes
out the dryer and stuff.

Speaker 7 (53:37):
Yeah, it was a little warm, right, decent. Okay, it
was warm, decent.

Speaker 8 (53:40):
So it's funny you said that, So as as weird
as I'm on top of the fresh clothes out the
dryer and it's magically warm, so you know, beating it
up whatever, you know, and it's feeling like warm, but
it's feeling like a little like a little hot, a.

Speaker 7 (53:55):
Little bit, you know what I'm saying. So, were you
having sex whatever?

Speaker 8 (53:59):
And she and she she kept saying like all right,
sticking in and she was ready for the at or whatever.

Speaker 7 (54:03):
And by the time I took took took.

Speaker 8 (54:05):
My you know, my boy out of her to put
in it, she had like diarrhea all over the new
the fresh clothes.

Speaker 7 (54:13):
So it was the.

Speaker 8 (54:15):
Warmth that was on that I was feeling. That was
like touching my legs. It was really she had diar read.

Speaker 3 (54:20):
On put in her but know what was going on.

Speaker 7 (54:25):
It was like it was like it was like leaking
like water like it was like all the time she
had like some juice.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
It was like maybe she was conducing and she didn't
get to last.

Speaker 7 (54:35):
I don't know.

Speaker 8 (54:35):
It was like it was when I said, it was
the worst thing I saw you.

Speaker 7 (54:39):
I think this is on white. She watched whites. She
was watching whites.

Speaker 3 (54:43):
This is a really this is very bad benefit.

Speaker 8 (54:47):
I think this is the last time I've ever we
ever had anything going on.

Speaker 3 (54:51):
Did you did you ever check in on her make
sure she was okay. She said, I didn't know what happened.
Was I left a little water? It was it.

Speaker 8 (54:58):
Was it was like it was like I was like,
it was like.

Speaker 3 (55:03):
Maybe she was terrible. You don't get me feeling bad
for her.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
I'm telling you, she was trying to juice to prepare.
And that's the only.

Speaker 7 (55:16):
I was so mad. Listen, there's there's how mad I was.
I'm so mad. I'm mad.

Speaker 8 (55:20):
I had to tell that story. That's how mad I was.
I thought I should have never even seen that.

Speaker 3 (55:24):
You know, my god, the scary part of you. I
feel for you too. That's that was. You know what
your feelings matter in this too? That was that was
bad for you. She traumatized though mortified. Maybe she was.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
I mean I never thought about how Yeah, like ship
on your dick is not ideal.

Speaker 3 (55:42):
That kind of could be terrifying before you. I mean,
I don't even know what it's like to have a dick.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
But if I had a dick then I and I
had shot on it, it would be a little bit
hor horrific.

Speaker 3 (55:50):
There's a little hole thing. It'd be concerned. It's just
there's ship on my dick. Okay, that is enough. It's like, yeah, anyway,
never mind moving on from the ship on the dick too, Taro,
I'm sorry that happened to you.

Speaker 7 (56:08):
Four.

Speaker 5 (56:08):
That doesn't sound ideal. I mean, but an analp.

Speaker 3 (56:12):
That you weren't wearing white, Ben, because that would have been.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
Got to know when you gotta know when to pull
the white out to an art form.

Speaker 3 (56:26):
Okay, I'm gonna read what your card means. The two
of swords? Correct? Yes, the two of swords indicates that.

Speaker 5 (56:32):
You're facing a challenging decision, but you are unlear about
which option to take. Both possibilities it may seem equally
good or equally bad, and you're stumped about which will
lead to the best outcome. You must be able to
weigh up the pros and cons of each choice and
then make a conscious judgment. You use both your head,
your mind and the intellect and your heart, your feelings
and intuition to choose the path that is most aligned

(56:55):
with your higher self.

Speaker 3 (56:58):
It looks like you need to go into meditation.

Speaker 7 (57:01):
I like that.

Speaker 3 (57:02):
Do you meditate? Have you tried?

Speaker 7 (57:06):
I tried.

Speaker 3 (57:07):
It's not for you.

Speaker 7 (57:09):
I would say it was not for me. I probably
need to do them more than once, but I definitely try.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
Yeah, I think meditation is a good place for contemplation.
And this card, the reason it came out is because
it looks like his eyes are closed.

Speaker 3 (57:24):
Right.

Speaker 2 (57:24):
So it's like with making decisions without being able to
see the obvious and really having to trust your intuition,
and you.

Speaker 5 (57:31):
May lack of information you need to make the right decisions.
To make the right decisions, you may be missing potential risk,
alternative solutions, or critical pieces of information that would help
guide you in a particular direction. Once you remove the
blindfold and see the situation for what it really is,
you'll be in a much better position to find your
best path forward, research your options, seek outside opinions and feedback,

(57:53):
and ask yourself what you might be missing.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
Maybe this is in regards to your future endeavors that
you swear you want to put, like where you to
put your store, your store?

Speaker 7 (58:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Absolutely.

Speaker 8 (58:04):
You know, it's crazy when you get messages like that,
you always overthinking, like, man, what is it?

Speaker 7 (58:09):
This is it that you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 8 (58:12):
So I'm gonna just, you know, let go on that guy,
you know, and just see what's what's what's what's best
or what's next to come?

Speaker 3 (58:20):
Yes? Amen?

Speaker 2 (58:25):
Well, for can you tell the people where they can
find you?

Speaker 7 (58:29):
They can subscribe to my Only Fans it's.

Speaker 8 (58:33):
Only fans dot com slash forever forever.

Speaker 7 (58:37):
What forever basically means forever me, I am.

Speaker 5 (58:43):
Oh, I'm forever. I'm so wait.

Speaker 3 (58:46):
You have pegging going on over there? What else do
you have?

Speaker 2 (58:48):
Happened?

Speaker 3 (58:49):
You have going on over there?

Speaker 7 (58:51):
Got some PU play? Got what else? I mean?

Speaker 8 (58:57):
I got some hardcore X on that too, you know,
but I got like a lot of like solos like
you know.

Speaker 3 (59:01):
So you know, how is only fans treating you?

Speaker 8 (59:06):
I mean, it's definitely another and source income, you know,
it's definitely another side of income. But uh, I mean
every time I go viral and make a lot of
a lot of money, like five thousand dollars a day, Yeah,
it can get crazy sometimes because curiosity is with sales.

Speaker 7 (59:27):
Yeah, because they got a c they want the t
they want to talk, you know what.

Speaker 3 (59:29):
So for me, it's like, okay, so.

Speaker 7 (59:33):
I focus on marketing, marketing my only fans like that.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (59:38):
There's a lot of other creators that go about their
stuff the other way. But that's that's predominantly how I
do moms. My social links Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat is fav
rim as well.

Speaker 7 (59:50):
P h O R E V E R I M.

Speaker 5 (59:53):
I'm gonna get that one more times.

Speaker 2 (59:59):
Yes, make sure you click the link in this episode
description to make sure you can find four and y'all.
Make sure you are subscribed to A the YouTube, A
the podcast that you are checking out, the Good Vibe
Treat because we have a lot of you know what,

(01:00:21):
I almost forgot. I was I wanted to ask you
to do that, and then I just got so used
to seeing you with the mask, but it felt like
I was looking at your face already.

Speaker 3 (01:00:29):
But wow, handsome face personality. I feel like I'm speaking
to a whole new person sort of but not really.
It's the eyes. The eyes, that was the.

Speaker 7 (01:00:42):
Eyes I was peaking through. Yeah, well here I am
a flash. You said it. I had to take it
off at some point.

Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
It's true. I believe, Yeah she did. I'm glad that
you had. Thank you for listening.

Speaker 7 (01:00:54):
Good boy, definitely good boy.

Speaker 3 (01:01:02):
Well, thank you so much for coming on our show for.

Speaker 7 (01:01:05):
Well, for sure, thank you all for having me. Love
what y'all doing.

Speaker 3 (01:01:08):
Keep going, Yeah, make sure you check for out.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
Make sure you check him out on Instagram and all
his channels and click a link in this episode description.

Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
Bitches are tipsy and high rate.

Speaker 7 (01:01:24):
Bitch.

Speaker 3 (01:01:24):
You know what's it do.

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
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