Late In Life Lesbian Feat. The Thick Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Once upon a time there was a good old traditional housewife.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
She couldn't.

Speaker 1 (00:04):
She cleaned and cared for her children and the man
of the house, and of course she didn't talk back.
She was both obedient and soft by nature. She was
a good woman who always made good choices.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
Shut that ship. We're good Mom's bad choices too. Single
mom who said fuck the patriarchy, shared all their bad choices.

Speaker 4 (00:22):
And sound out they were so bad.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
After all, we're experts, overshares and your new besties.

Speaker 4 (00:26):
Sit back and enjoy the ride.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
I can do it. Welcome back to good Mom's bad Choices.
I'm Erica and I'm Mila. Happy Wednesday, bitchy, Yes, happy,
by the fucking hump Day. We're back.

Speaker 4 (00:41):
We're back. It's October. Welcome to my favorite month, the bitches.
Is Scorpio season. We're skipping libras. Fuck them. I love them.
My mom's a Libra, but fuck them. It's Scorpio season.
Shout out to the Scorpios.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
It's the witchy month, and you know we're gonna milk it.

Speaker 4 (00:58):
We're gonna witch it up.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
We're gonna we'll get all thirty one days because that's
what we do. We're gonna go to all the Halloween parties,
get the maximum amount of Halloween costumes. Even if we
get invited to none, We're gonna we're gonna get in,
just like we did Janelle Mona's party three years in
a row. Oh yeah, yeah, baby, And we're gonna go
to the Hollywood Cemetery and we're gonna do all the
spooky shit. We meanven we might even buy a Ouiji
board this year. Oh I don't know, come on, we

(01:20):
didn't junior High. I'm scared again.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
I know not you I know too much.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:24):
I will go to the Cemetery, but I don't know.
I don't want to need the Ouigi's coming into.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
The yea scorpio?

Speaker 4 (01:29):
What I am a scorpio?

Speaker 3 (01:31):
But I have id spiricial.

Speaker 4 (01:33):
Boundaries at this point in my ancestors.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
What should we do? Everybody's tripping ancestors, it's us. What
the fuck are the aliens coming? Gt f O do
we need to do a podcast episode? I've thought about this.
With the Ouiji border, we're gonna get canceled.

Speaker 4 (01:52):
No, well probably, I mean we're gonna lose about twenty
percent of our base.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
I mean, go here. I think that if they're still here.
Then they're rocking with us. We actually know they're probably
to because they're kind of curious a little bit. I
want to see these bitches card you're up.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
They'll go to church on Sunday and wash it off.
It's okay.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
It's a spooky season, scary movie season. It's time for
la to get seventy three degrees. We're gonna wear a
sweater and act like it's cold. Do you like pumpkin
spice lattes.

Speaker 4 (02:22):
I don't think I've ever had one.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
I don't think I have either. I'm not like a
punkin bitch, but maybe like an apple hot apple cider.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
I went to Target the other day.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
I don't fuck yeah, you just everybody actually Target?

Speaker 4 (02:34):
No, No, it actually wasn't Target. Actually no, I didn't
go to Target.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
No, I didn't.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
I went to TJ Max because you know I did,
because I bought those fucking sparkly flat shoes. I thought
about going to Target, and then I said no, and
I went to TJ Max, which I don't know. TJ
Max is, you know what they're going on with kind
of where they're at, where they Yeah, I gotta look
it up. In fact, people even worry about these things
and saying I don't know where TJ max stands. But
I went and I went to the candle section and

(02:59):
I tried to find a pumpkin something I handled I hate,
and every single one smelled like shit.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
I hate it.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
They all smell fucking horrible, never even the apple ones.
I'm just not an apple candleton.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
I'd rather do cranberry apple than that fucking pumpkins. I
don't want that shit. I don't want my house to
smell like oatmeal. Yeah, anyway, anyway, Sorry, that was that
was intense.

Speaker 4 (03:21):
I just want to set the record straight. I did
not go. I was a fuck up. I did not
I repeat, I did not track. I went to t
J Max because I was trying to show Iri, because
I was like, Iri, we should go. I was like,
there's a place that has like all your favorite products,
but it's for cheaper. And she's like where, and she's like,
are you sure?

Speaker 2 (03:40):
My daughter is so.

Speaker 4 (03:40):
Bouge was like, is it like fake stuff?

Speaker 3 (03:45):
But what are the products that she's lin.

Speaker 4 (03:47):
Age and summer Fridays?

Speaker 2 (03:49):
What is this?

Speaker 4 (03:51):
What are they are brands? You find us before it?
But then we went there and my daughter because she's
literally Ran Silver's daughter. She's like, look at the packaging
on this product. Mom, I love the way it opens up.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
Look how cute.

Speaker 4 (04:02):
So she is just fake summer Fridays. This is fake linage.
I'm like, the fact that you know this at ten
is she does.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
Have namebor and stuff.

Speaker 4 (04:09):
So I've been exploring possibly trying to encourage my daughter
to start a preteen skincare makeup line. So I went
to DJ Max to kind of like like do a
little research, and I was like, so, if you were
going to start a line, what would it be? So
and she was just she wasn't She's not really into it.

(04:29):
She's like, wants to make a lot of money, but
doesn't want to do any work.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
So she's ten.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
So she's gotten everything.

Speaker 4 (04:35):
But it's possible we have I have the infrastructure in place.
She could be the next preteen CEO founder. Babe, there's
a lot of them, Coco. Something is I keep showing
Lacy Coco. Coco is a preteen founder.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
She wants to use the lin age in the summer Friday.

Speaker 4 (04:49):
He also wants to go to private school. So she's
not getting a job.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
I hate to break it to you, she's not getting
a job.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
She might she's getting a job anyway, childlame. We have
some special guests, guys. I'm really excited to introduce to
the show some former friends, not former, but friends of
the show no longer break.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
Friends of the show.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
It's been a long time, Okay, these house took a
long break from podcasting, and actually, like, you guys were
really a big part of the inspiration for us starting podcasting.
You had your show before us. We saw you guys,
and I was like, oh my.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
God, we could do this. Yeah, and actually I.

Speaker 4 (05:29):
Think your name at the time. Well, let me introduce
you guys.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
Right, who are we So i'd love to.

Speaker 4 (05:35):
Welcome to the show to Bria and Mindy of the
Thick Podcast. Welcome back, Welcome back to the podcast world. Yadays.
What I was saying was, I think like your show
was called like something. The thing was it something?

Speaker 3 (05:49):
Else?

Speaker 4 (05:50):
Was the two words?

Speaker 2 (05:50):
It was always a thing.

Speaker 4 (05:52):
Yeah, oh maybe I've made that up, but I think
you did.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
I was like, really, I'm learning.

Speaker 4 (05:58):
No, because Okay, So originally our name was Parental Advisory,
Good Mom's Bad Choices.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
Oh it was too long.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
That is.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
That was cool and that's where we get that.

Speaker 4 (06:09):
Logo, Like the logo just parental advisory. Yeah, I like
that myself. Yeah, well, welcome back to the podcasting space.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
I know it feels good to be back.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
So much has happened. You're a mom, you're a lesbian.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
I need to be filled in. I actually I ran
into Mindy, like not long ago at a bar and
I was like, is that Mindy? And then we started talking.
She's like, yeah, I just went on a date with
a woman and I'm in love. I'm like, been there,
done that. It's gonna be lesbian for two years and
it'll be over and I trust me, it's drama and
be moved in three weeks. And then guess about three
weeks later she was living internet like I'm in love

(06:49):
to you.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
No.

Speaker 5 (06:52):
So I I feel like with my journey it was
a little different because I always knew that there was
something there, but I had a lot of of Christian
guilt and then just like Caribbean guilt and like Caribbean
fear at that because I'm Haitian in my family, the
worst and you could do, you can go to jail,
you can have you could abuse your wife, you can
do all kinds of things and they will forgive you,

(07:14):
but if you go ahead and you become a homosexual,
they will never speak to you again. So that that
helped me back for a really long time. And I
think that I just I started going to therapy, and
through going to therapy, I was like, fuck it, we
all let me just live my life. And literally, I
will say that this is very me and very on
brand for me.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
I didn't have a conversation with anyone.

Speaker 5 (07:36):
I just started living and then I literally hit them
up one day and I was like, oh my god,
I met this girl fine as fuck. And I was
already like your family nods and they were.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
Like what and I was like, yeah, like I know.

Speaker 5 (07:49):
And now like a few years later, it's been a while. Yeah, yeah,
I'm literally locked the fucking Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
First, how long have you got I's been dating okay
year and a half. Okay, and this is the first
female you've ever dated ever. Oh you have dated money before,
you've had sex as onement before. Yeah, this was just
like I'm gonna like, really do the leap.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
I've only been in three relationships my entire life. Ok So,
like I.

Speaker 5 (08:15):
Don't I take relationship very seriously, So if I'm just
gonna fuck around, I'm a fuck around. Like I've had
people ask me to be in relationships and I will
say no because I know I won't take you seriously
and I don't want to hurt your feelings or like
get into a situation that it's hard to get out of.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
And so if I'm with someone, except for one, that one.

Speaker 5 (08:32):
Situation I was playing, I was playing, but in terms
of this one, I knew that, like it's it's like real.
We dated for six months before we got into a relationship.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
I would like, are you strictly vagina now?

Speaker 5 (08:46):
Or I would say the ratio for me is like
ninety ten, like genuinely in my past we literally just
talked about this. But in my past, all the men
that I've ever dated, and that was a lot of men,
I fucking.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
With a lot of niggas.

Speaker 5 (09:01):
I fucked with a lot of niggas, and they all
were like very very effeminate, so like very like bisexual,
whether they knew it or not. I have a thing
for a man who looks masculine but is soft and
a woman who looks masculine but is like soft.

Speaker 4 (09:20):
It makes like oh okay, okay, So you still want
the softness.

Speaker 5 (09:23):
I like a balance of masculinity and femininity. It's just
it presents itself in different way. So I could never
date like a macho man like. I've tried it before,
and it always ends with like us arguing, like on
the first date, like I'm not gonna I'm baby girl,
but to a certain extent because I'm gonna call you
out on your misogyny.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
I'm not gonna deal with that.

Speaker 4 (09:41):
But you don't want to date a woman who's mask
And then also it's kind of like who's not soft,
like there's no bound like.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
No, So I've done it before.

Speaker 5 (09:48):
I've dated like what I consider a superstud, like a
very very touch me not once didn't go far.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
I can't do that touch.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
Me, touch you, pulling out these terms the lesson. I
never heard this term I have told you to touch me?

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Not?

Speaker 3 (10:04):
Is it said that? Like whereas a strap almost all
the time doesn't want to her pussy a doesn't wear
a titty suck like, where like doesn't really want to
be touched you, she does all the work.

Speaker 5 (10:16):
Is touch merapist for a reason, because there are women
who are considered pillow princesses who want to be with
the woman, but don't want to be touchy, don't want
to be the one nothing, but they want to perceive,
So they're like puzzle pieces.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
That's called the bill together.

Speaker 4 (10:33):
I was just talking to my gay bestie about this
on the way here, actually, and he put me onto
another word verse verse that I thought, I mean, I'm
fucking not. I don't know, I don't be in these
gay streets fun exactly.

Speaker 5 (10:49):
The lingo is different in like the lesbian community versus
the gay community, but there are like terms and like
experiences that all fall under the umbrella of queerness that
apply across the board.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
But like verse would.

Speaker 4 (11:02):
Be the I thought it was a switch.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
I thought, like it is the top of our bottom.

Speaker 5 (11:06):
And I think that applies in lesbian relationships to where
it's a woman who wants to give and wants to receive,
like because there are women who genuinely like are the
feminine relationship and will never put a strap on and
will never like fuck their partner. And then there are
women who are mass presenting or studs and they like
to receive and they want their partner to strap them too.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
So it's all or we'll get some dick I mean
that's a.

Speaker 5 (11:32):
Fact too, but that's not a lesbian, that's a bisexual person. Okay,
by fun, but I think my number is like ninety ten.
Like I genuinely I haven't dated a many years and
I don't have the urge too.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
But does that mean that it would never happen in life?
I don't know. If I find the right bisexual.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
Man, would you say you would only do bisexual?

Speaker 2 (11:51):
No?

Speaker 3 (11:51):
No? No?

Speaker 5 (11:51):
When I say about no but a soft man, I
think that the level of softness that I require kind
of comes hand in hand with being bisexual. Like I
like a very like like, uh we good city, you're
not good judy kind of man.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
You know what does that mean?

Speaker 5 (12:05):
Like like we're like sisters, like we have a friendship
where the thing is there are certain because she knows
what I mean, Like there's certain things you can do
in a head Norman relationship.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
That would be offensive to that man.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
Right.

Speaker 5 (12:19):
So if I'm like with a man and I'm just
like bitch stuff or like girl, let me tell you don't.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
I think if you're a real nigga, you're not gonna
get mad because, like you know, I remember all my
bitches And if I say bitch. It's because I was.

Speaker 6 (12:29):
All I feel like for syper masculine men do, but
she's she can be the guy who paints his nails
and it's like not a big du subject.

Speaker 5 (12:39):
Like things like that don't bother me, you know, if
you want to go and we want to get Like
I remember I went on a date one time with
this guy and we wore the same shoes, but they
weren't like Jay's. We were literally both wearing tabby heels
with like three inch heel and we both shut.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
Up and I was like, where is the photo.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
I can show you a picture of him right now
with the shoes on. I need to see.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
Because I need to see these three shoes.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
No, im dead ass.

Speaker 5 (13:04):
We had the same shoes and we showed up on
date and I was like, it was so cute.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
I loved it.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
I feel like we're in an era that women are
more I think that women are more accept like there's
more acceptability around dating like bisexual men, whereas before it
was like especially in the black community, like you know.
And I also feel like, because I know, not too
long ago, I mean, do Chi had made a comment
about like basically how much she hates heterosexual men. She

(13:34):
only likes like bisex and like all the heterosexual memory.
And I'm like, you guys, you see the you see
the crime that you the violence that you like obstructed.

Speaker 4 (13:47):
I knew. I was like, is that Max?

Speaker 3 (13:51):
Let me see the same shoes.

Speaker 4 (13:53):
It looks like me see you know how I'm talking about?
Oh he got the marginalas.

Speaker 5 (13:57):
We had the exact same shoes on, and literally it
like it did something for me.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
I know these are not that's a bit of mars.

Speaker 5 (14:08):
Doesn't make a difference because most like like real macho
men would never even buy.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
Those shipes, they would never even put them on.

Speaker 4 (14:15):
Well, it does not there stylish maybe they get the
flatter ones.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
But stylish men no shade.

Speaker 5 (14:21):
A lot of these stylish men that I have dated,
and I've dated a lot of fashion niggas are moderately bisexual.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
What is your what do you like they told because
they told you they're bisexual, or they or you're just
saying I want to.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
See his shoes?

Speaker 3 (14:37):
Would you say, sorry, what it's moderately bisexual?

Speaker 5 (14:40):
Okay, again, this is just ingest, so don't say that.
I'm like trying to tell people what their sexuality is.
I know the internet is a crazy place, but when
I say that, I mean, like I have prime example.
I dated this one guy and we were in a
relationship and I remember he told me and he has
the same like fashion man, you know, moderately bisexual my
man in my mind. And he was like, oh, I'm

(15:01):
going to Palm Springs friend's birthday thing. Da da da
da da. And I was like, oh, what friend? And
it was a gay friend of his. And I was like,
are you gonna be the only straight man there? And
he was like I think, but there's gonna be some
of like girls there too. So I said, okay, cool,
like you you're cool with that and he was like
yeah period.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
I was like love that, but that is amazing.

Speaker 5 (15:18):
List shows up there and we're like chatting every night
and he's like, I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
This guy came on to me and he was like
I was looking at him and I was like.

Speaker 5 (15:25):
That's a fine nigga. Like he was like if I
was gonna fuck somebody, I fuck him. And I was like,
you are repressing yourself, baby boy. Like I like, I'm sorry,
I'm a clock the tea, no shade, it's I'm not
saying that you need to go get some dick, but like,
let's have the conversation and understanding that you are a
bit more effeminate than a lot of men are, and
you're okay to have this conversation and you recognize that

(15:46):
you are attracted to this man.

Speaker 4 (15:47):
No, I feel like I feel like that's just maturity.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
I feel like I feel like we come from such
a place of of toxic masculinity that if I was
as a straight woman, well you know, if I wouldn't
have my former gay years. And I was like at
a party and there's a bunch of lesbians and I
was like this lesbians hitting on me and she's kind
of fine, Like no one would be like you're like,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (16:11):
More than I'm fine, I would fuck.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
Him, okay, but.

Speaker 4 (16:15):
More than I'm fine.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
No, that's different.

Speaker 5 (16:18):
No, Literally, he was like, if I were to dude,
like it would be like somebody like him, like he genuine.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
But I feel like women women can say things like
that and then we are not we're not like penalized.
We're not penalized, and we're not we're not held to
this like we could say that our very straight friend
could say this in a room and we wouldn't be
we wouldn't take twice about it. Yeah, I fuck her
if I wasn't anybody.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
To be her.

Speaker 3 (16:39):
Ah, But with a man, even like even a man
saying oh he is a good looking man, like you
have eyes, my nigga. You know if a man is
like you know, like cult like societally attractive or not,
that men are like, oh fuck no, I'm not gonna
I'm not gonna be no gay niggas. I'm not going
to the gay party. And I think.

Speaker 4 (16:57):
Between being able to look at a man and say
that he's attracted and then say I would put my
dick in him, you know.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
I understand that, But I'm just saying I'm bringing a point.
As straight women, when we have conversations, we can easily
make comments, and they're that we can.

Speaker 4 (17:10):
We're not held to that.

Speaker 5 (17:12):
I would like to argue, though majority of women who
make those comments would fuck a woman.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
I don't know. I have some. I know I have
some very strictly dickly capricorn friends that I know like
could make comments like that, but would never fuck a woman.
And I wouldn't question it because I know them and
I and it would just I just I'm I'm just
saying like society like we're all conditioned me too, like
I'm I'm open and free and my nigga guys tonail

(17:37):
painted and I was ready to leave them.

Speaker 4 (17:39):
I was pissed in my body.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
I had to really sit with myself like, oh, bitch,
this really bothered you. So I recognize that, like even
some of my own beliefs. I'm like, I didn't even
put them there. But I realized as soon as I
was like this nigga is everything for you love him
so much, but you're I was like, I don't know
if I can do it.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
I will say, though apology, I do.

Speaker 5 (18:01):
I do agree with you that we have this insane
amount of judgment that we put on men when they
express themselves in that manner. And of course, like people
do put you in a box. At the minute you
have a fucking second piecing in your ear, everyone's like
you're gay or both, Like yeah, that's like to me,
that is a lot. But in this scenario, specifically, I'm
talking about somebody who I you know yet I know,

(18:23):
And it wasn't like that situation happened in a vacuum.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
It was multiple conversations of like that.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
Did he ever? Did he ever say? You know, I
would experiment because I asked niggas if I did a nigga,
just because I know, like as young girls, we experiment.
As girls, we make out and even if you're not leged,
we were like, yeah, I made out of my homework. We
had to practice. I never my life, I even what.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
Never my life made out with a friend? Yeah, no,
never I have it either, really no.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
Never. Never.

Speaker 6 (18:49):
If it was a gun to my head and I
had to make out, I can't imagine.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
I couldn't do it.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
One time made Erica made out because the two niggas
in the front seat got lost and we were drunk
and they kept asking us questions that we didn't know
the answers to. So I think we were so drunk.
We're just like, just if.

Speaker 4 (19:06):
You make out those times.

Speaker 6 (19:08):
And then they were they they're like they can figure
it out.

Speaker 4 (19:17):
They figured it out.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (19:20):
I do think mine when it comes to friends, because
I consider friends like family, and it's like making out
my sister.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Yeah, I couldn't. I couldn't do it.

Speaker 3 (19:27):
Yeah, it's weird, I guess because maybe we grow up
in the Valley, all the drunken white girls just make
out sometimes.

Speaker 4 (19:31):
No, I mean, I'm not gonna make out with anybody there.
I'm picky about my makeouts.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
But it's happened at this big age. I'm not it's gonna.

Speaker 4 (19:39):
But I can count on my one hand how many
friends I've made out with. Maybe three. Three girl that's
still look at his fingers right. No, I'm exploring my
press on mail Era and off and I can't. Yeah,

(20:03):
I'm missing what are you giving the press on nail
Experience one through ten six point five?

Speaker 3 (20:10):
So I was really hoping that you would say a ten.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
So I mean it's a ten for me.

Speaker 4 (20:14):
You know, they're quick, like I can just put them
back on. I just forget, like I have them in
my bag. I lost this one. Who was time to
be like, if you have time, it takes literally three seconds.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
Yeah, you forgot, because right now I wish I had
one for this.

Speaker 4 (20:27):
I forgot. Yeah, I mean I could do it. And
you know it's just like when do you actually finally say, Okay,
these are done now, Like we gotta throw them away
because I've had these on for like almost two weeks
and they're starting to look they're looking a loud dingy.
She like, it's time to throw these away. I think
when they start looking like this, I mean, you're missing twos.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
They ain't her persa.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
Anyway.

Speaker 4 (20:52):
So tell me about you, because you are a new mom,
will not even you're like two years in. Now this
is where it gets good.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
This is where you like get a little bit freedom back.

Speaker 6 (21:00):
You're like, oh, oh yeah, yeah, she's really fun right now.
I'm really enjoying this stage. And she's a toddler, so
I was really dreading it. But it's been fun so far.
But she just turned to yeah this we're one and done,
you know, yeah, sure, yeah, I'm positive we're not having anymore.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
Really, no baby fever.

Speaker 6 (21:20):
I think I would lose myself if I had more
than one child.

Speaker 4 (21:25):
I feel like, you're just did you feel like you
lost let me and every I think everybody, Yeah, I think, yeah,
it's like part of the initiation.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
Yeah for sure.

Speaker 6 (21:30):
But I I feel comfortable that I'm able to give
a lot to her, but still to myself and to
my relationship. And if I had more than one kid,
I I just would get I would get lost in motherhood,
you know. I feel like I would really lose my
sense of self. And both Trey and I were raised
his only kids, so it's not a big deal to
either one of us. So yeah, and she's great. I'm

(21:53):
I'm so thankful I had a girl.

Speaker 4 (21:54):
So yeah, I love girls.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
Boys are rambunctious and violent. Yes, yeah, we're friend And
he has like a huge scarm, Like what the fuck,
I'm only ran into a table. I'm gonna say, remember
that crazy a lot.

Speaker 5 (22:07):
We don't say her name in public, so I have
a nickname for her, Peaches. Peaches is like she's quiet
and sassy but also yeapper, right, Like the most that
happens is she's just like talking about random stuff or
she you'll tell her to do something and she'll look
at you like this and then she won't do it.
So it be like give me a hug and she'll
be like no, say hi no. And that's like the

(22:30):
most I think about my niece, my nephew. My niece
was pretty chill too. She's a little bad, but pretty
chill my nephew. Oh my god by to yea by
two literally throwing things at your head.

Speaker 6 (22:42):
Oh my, boys are a lot.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
I can't imagine boys are psychotic for the whole different
like realm of parenthood that I've known nothing about.

Speaker 4 (22:50):
Like God knew that I needed. If I was gonna
be a single mother, it had to be a girl, right.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
I think the boys need the we need the fathers
in the in the household.

Speaker 4 (22:58):
I was just telling you straight, look quick. Yeah, if
I had a boy and I was a single mom,
I'm I don't think i'd make it right now, Yeah,
it would be a different story about us hard.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
What's been the most challenging part about like the motherhood journey?

Speaker 6 (23:14):
Balance? You know, I work life balance is impossible. I
feel like when I'm working, I have to just like
close that part of my brain off and not think
about her, which sounds crazy to say, but it's also
a reason why I've just scaled back a lot on posting,
on social and modeling. Like two years in. I feel

(23:35):
like I'm just now feeling like, Okay, I can separate
a little bit more and put a little bit more
effort into my work instead of just being with her
all the time. Because I really enjoy motherhood and I
enjoy being with her, but it does take away from
other fastest of your life. I don't want to say
you can't have it all, and you know, put people

(23:57):
off to it, but there is no balance, you know.
You just you do what you can when you can.
And we're really lucky. We have a great village, like
we get every weekend off. Oh wow, you know, we're
we're so fortunate to have the setup that we do.
And we'll probably put her in school soon, like daycare
or something. But but yeah, it's been it's been really great.

(24:18):
And also another reason I don't want to have another
kid is I really don't want to go through postpartum again.
I wouldn't mind going through labor again, but I don't want.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
To do that to myself.

Speaker 6 (24:29):
I feel like it just takes a long time to
get back to feeling like you Yeah, yeah, especially like
being a model, and so much of my career is
my looks, you know, and my hair is falling out
all over the place, and my body looks so different,
and it made me more self conscious, more self aware

(24:51):
than I've.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
Ever been about my body, you know.

Speaker 6 (24:54):
But fortunately I'm you know, I'm still working. I'm thirty
five now and still modeling, which is haggard as a model. No, yes,
but I started modeling late. I started when I was
twenty five and most girls started like seventeen, you know,
so I was already, you know, late in the game.
But I'm I'm still here, you know, kicking it.

Speaker 4 (25:15):
You still have the same drive that you had for modeling.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
No, I don't.

Speaker 6 (25:22):
And you know, money used to be everything to me.
I would do anything for a dollar, like Mindy, No,
I would take Mindy.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
Can tell you.

Speaker 6 (25:35):
I would take every job. I would fly to New
York just for castings, not even for bookings.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
I like, I was busy.

Speaker 6 (25:42):
I was working at least five days a week for
like six or seven years straight.

Speaker 4 (25:47):
No, I remember, And yeah, I was listening to Bria is,
a very successful plus sized model.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
She's like it was, yeah, but it was.

Speaker 6 (25:56):
Too much, and I knew I couldn't keep that up.
Like once I got pregnant. That definitely slowed me down.
I knew, like, Okay, I'm gonna have to take a
step back. It's not the end, you know, but I'm
just gonna have to take a step back.

Speaker 3 (26:07):
Were you were you guys trying or was it a surprise?

Speaker 6 (26:09):
We we were We let our guard down. We had
one conversation, No, listen, we did. We had one conversation
and we were like, yeah, let's we should just I'm
gonna tell you today, and we just stopped, you know,
thinking about it.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
We're just chilling one day.

Speaker 5 (26:23):
And then during this time to real she was by coastal,
I was fully living in New York and she had
an apartment in New York and the place in la
and I remember I came over because you were both
in New York at the same time, and we're just
sitting there, chilling on the couch and she literally is like, so,
me and Trey just decided, like, you know, if it happens,
it happens.

Speaker 3 (26:42):
What does that mean?

Speaker 5 (26:42):
She was like, I mean, like, I'm not saying that
we're trying for a baby, but like, you know, it'd
be fine.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
And I was like, look every day.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
Every time.

Speaker 5 (26:54):
But I was like, so you're trying, and she's like, no,
it's just you know, if it happened.

Speaker 3 (26:59):
He's hey, hello, everybody listening. PSA announcement. This is me.
If you're letting a nigga met in your pussy, you
are trying for a baby, Thank you. Loki. Pulling out
is tricky because baby depending on how fertile. Myrtle bitch
is that yeah, and sometimes it sometimes you're good, Like

(27:23):
I think I let my baby daddy none of me
for like a year straight, and I was like, maybe
I can't get pregnant. No, God is trying to protect me.
But then he said, okay, fine, you want it so
bad here choice it's gonna be a single mom here.
But yeah, you guys, don't, don't be playing with fire
like that. Take it for me. I got that copper eye,
U d I cannot.

Speaker 4 (27:44):
It just feels like completion.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
I like to get netted in. That's why I have
a copper like it's complete. I feel that it's called
a breeding kink.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
No you're not.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (27:56):
But when I'm doing that, it's not because I want
to breathe. It's just because it feels it literally just
feels like the whole the holistic Chile pussy wants to come.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (28:05):
Like it's not because I have a breeding cank. I
have that sounds like a dog like I'm.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
There are a lot of men, all these.

Speaker 4 (28:12):
Words verse breeding kinks.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
Right up with them.

Speaker 4 (28:17):
Breeding can definitely yea ye, yeah, yeah, yeah, many like
seven that is a lot.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
She got births.

Speaker 4 (28:28):
That's children.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
I think eleven really. Yeah, she has several children, that's crazy.

Speaker 4 (28:34):
Seven seven, that's a dozen.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
Yeah, it's a lot.

Speaker 5 (28:38):
But again, like, and I'm not here to say, we
just had all that controversy about like, you know, telling
women what to do with their uterus. But at the
end of the day, I don't agree with the sentiment
of if you can afford them, keep having them, because
someone's gonna get lost in the matrix. Like you can't
have seven eight kids and then think that all of
them feel equally loved.

Speaker 3 (28:58):
Well, I feel like in the one household she parents.
First of all, this is not the pilgrimage days. There's
why what the fuck? Like, who's going to house them?
The world maybe's ending, the aliens are coming. I'm already
like torn by having a second one, right, and we
tend to the farm unless maybe you're amish, I don't know,
but I just I feel like, you know, even Nick
Cannon came out recently and was like.

Speaker 4 (29:20):
Fucked, yeah, I'm a n but like, no ship.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
But I think men have this idea that they could
go just drop off their seat at different bitches houses.

Speaker 4 (29:30):
That is virtually.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
Impossible unless all the bitches are living on one cul
de sac. Then like, how can you.

Speaker 5 (29:37):
I will say I had a conversation with the man
once and it was about this exact thing, and he
said that, but he was like, I choose really good
baby mamas.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
I choose women who I know are going to raise.

Speaker 5 (29:48):
My child the way my child should raised. They are
strong women. And and he was like, I don't see
nothing wrong with.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
What the fuck are you doing? Literally are you raising?

Speaker 2 (29:56):
Not at all? But in his mind he's like, well,
I was single mom.

Speaker 5 (30:00):
I turned out great. This is really good women to
be single moms.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
Here's a problem. And Britt columns so we can bring
on the show nights.

Speaker 4 (30:08):
On that note, I think it's smoke a clock smoker.
Today I brought us a special paper.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
You see this beautiful?

Speaker 2 (30:15):
It's roses.

Speaker 4 (30:17):
It's a rose joint that someone left at my house.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
I don't know they're gonna find out that they's left
it now. It's pretty. Do you gladies have any bad
choices of the week? Any bad choices you've made this week?

Speaker 5 (30:31):
Mom?

Speaker 7 (30:31):
Not a bad mom, but a bad mom so good.

Speaker 4 (30:43):
And by bad it could be bad bad or it
could be you know, good bad.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
Oh.

Speaker 5 (30:47):
My bad choice of the week is I work a lot,
like I literally beare the guinea days off and when
I'm tired, I'm legit tired. So I decided I was
going to DoorDash dinner. And they had a two for
one deal on like Typhood, and that's a steal. Yeah,
you get two orders of pad Tie for fifteen dollars,
and then I got the Spring Girls on top of it,

(31:08):
and that was like ten dollars on, so twenty five
dollars all together, maybe thirty one with the taxes and
all that shit, enough food to feed three and a
half people.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
And I fucked that ship. I need both the pat
Ties but I have, but you have. I had eight.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
I love spring Roll because.

Speaker 5 (31:29):
It was four four no judgment, judgment free zone.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
Those are to throw down, Okay, I fell cram up.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
Oh my god, I ate them. Yeah, it was bad.
I woke up the next morning and I was like, bitch,
I feel heavy. Oh god, the fuck.

Speaker 3 (31:45):
If you're lessening from anywhere else in the world other
than Los Angeles, let me just fill you in LA.
We only have like three foods outside to eat tie
Tie Mexican and then like American, Yeah sushi, sushi, yeah,
Tie Mexican sushi. That's all we got. So if you
come to LN you think you're not about to get
one of those three things, you're fucking You're fucking lost.

(32:06):
Because we are gonna eat Thai food. Me and Erica,
I think building the podcast, we must ate type food
at least three times a week.

Speaker 4 (32:13):
Yes, it fueled the podcast.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
This podcast is brought to you by Ti.

Speaker 6 (32:18):
I love Tay food because they can get spicy.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
I love I love spicy.

Speaker 5 (32:22):
But literally, I feel like in a week I'll eat
Asian food like eight times in one week, Like it'll
be ramen one day, sushi tai.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
I've been fucking up the massubies.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
What is the Massubie?

Speaker 5 (32:35):
Oh my god, there's this place and it's like a
Japanese restaurant but from Okinawa, which is like very different
than traditional Japanese culture because there a lot of people
don't know this, but Japan was colonized, so the people
that we recognize as Japanese people are not the indigenous people.
They're actually very like darker skin Polynesian people, right, And

(32:55):
so it's basically seaweed rice either spam or like spicy
tuna or some kind of meat. And then this place
in particular, they have the option to add a slice
of pineapple and then it's wrapped up.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
It's like, oh mommy, and like savory and sweet. It
sounds good.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
But I don't like spam or pineapple.

Speaker 5 (33:15):
No, you don't have to do spam. They have like
they have one with soft cell crab. Oh my god,
it's so good. They like have all this one with eel.
It's like all these.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
Things so fucking good. Oh yeah, I love that. What's
your bad choice? I'm trying to think.

Speaker 6 (33:30):
Somebody was venting to me on the phone, and I
just made up an excuse.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
To get off.

Speaker 6 (33:36):
I felt really bad because you know when people don't
really call people anymore, and I was really taken aback
by the phone call. I was not expecting a vent session, Remember,
on the phone for like thirty minutes.

Speaker 4 (33:49):
No, because they were in your face.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
Yeah yeah, but it was.

Speaker 6 (33:53):
It was just too much. So I made up an
excuse about peaches my daughter.

Speaker 4 (33:57):
Kids are ever, literally nine times out of ten, when
a mom is saying like she can't come, or she's
running or she's running late, and she blames her child,
it's not her. I just stopped blaming Luna because I
realized I have a whole other person in the house
and people know I'm lying, like I forgot I did
it last week with somebody and I was like, I

(34:17):
didn't realize I had to pick up Luna and I'm like, bitch,
they know anymore.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
I'm sorry, that isn't work. Yeah, it was like for
a night time.

Speaker 4 (34:27):
I don't know what your what your schedules are.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
Yes, yeah, that's true, but you know, I plan.

Speaker 4 (34:33):
On milking that until the age of the people people
and beyond. Actually she's graduating. It's like, fucking June.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
I think there should be a time limit on phone
calls because something that happened to me recently and I
hadn't talked to her a long time, and I really
wanted to be there for her, but I realized I
only have the capacity for long conversations in person, and
even then sometimes I'm.

Speaker 4 (34:55):
Like, well, you know, we have this conversation like a
few month ago with Sayla Marie when we're talking about
like emotional dumping and how people like it's not like
need to ask for permission. Yeah, they need to normalize
saying hey, do you have the space for this right now?
I'm going through something I wish.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
That was a courtesy.

Speaker 4 (35:14):
And if someone says like, hey, how you doing, and
you're like not doing well and you really need to
get one off, you just be like, actually, I'm not
doing okay. Do you have the space? And the most
of the time people are going to say yeah, because
we're people pleaser, But at least you have the option like,
you know what, actually, I'm about to walk into doctor's appointment.
Let me call you back so that you can actually prepare.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
But you know what I'm going through.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
But yeah, exactly, exactly.

Speaker 4 (35:36):
Yeah, yeah, so good.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
I'm gonna start adding that to mine.

Speaker 5 (35:40):
What I'll do sometimes is I'll be like when people
call me and they want to vent, I'll be like,
are you calling me for advice.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
Or just for an listening?

Speaker 5 (35:47):
Yeah, Because then my approach is different because you can't
call me invent for thirty minutes and then I tell
you what you should do and you're.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
Just like, I don't want to do that.

Speaker 5 (35:54):
Yeah, I should never told you. Yeah, so let me
know what it is. And then if it's just for
an ear, I'll put the phone on mute, go off.

Speaker 4 (36:01):
I realized that I need someone to tell like I
need someone to tell me that because I'm automatically an
advice person, like naturally, I know that that's not always.
That's not good, it's actually not good at all.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
It's actually not serve me.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
Well, we're all judging and then evaluating for you and
then telling your your feedback based on my own experience
because that's the only I'm gonna automatically apply it to
my knowledge of what I've experienced.

Speaker 4 (36:26):
That's what we're talking about last week. And then I
met about relationships how people like you know, share things
personal about their relationship with their friends, and then their
friends will obviously in a loving way, offer advice, but
it's based on their experience, and then they can give
you like not great advice or advice that doesn't really
apply to you. Yeah, So a having the discernment as
to when to listen, but also like yeah, knowing when

(36:49):
to say when to just say, Okay, I'm going to
give you advice. I'm just going to listen this time.

Speaker 5 (36:54):
So yeah, always I preemptively ask, especially when it's a
venting situation, not to cut you off, but just let
me know. Because I have gotten into conversations, like not altercations,
but just like really intense conversations with people because I'll
give advice and they're like.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
Well, who were you? Well, bitch, you called me.

Speaker 3 (37:11):
Why are you telling me? You don't mean to tell you?

Speaker 5 (37:14):
So I'm saying like, I'm gonna guide you as best
as I can because I figure you call me because
I'm the best person for this.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
But sometimes people just call you because no one else answered.

Speaker 5 (37:22):
Yeah, like you don't know on the list where literally
where you feel like call and you're not calling me
for advice and Jenny because you need get it off.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
And generally people want to hear what they want to hear. Yes,
you're calling. Even when you call people, you'll call for
the thing you already know you want to do, just
for someone to agree with you. Because if someone goes
against what you already know you're gonna do, be like, oh, bitch,
why did you ask me?

Speaker 2 (37:45):
Then I do?

Speaker 7 (37:46):
Do?

Speaker 5 (37:46):
I have two different things? Can uh tell you? I
literally will call her and I'm good. I'll literally be
like I need advice and then I'll tell what's up.
If it's not advice, I'll be like I seed to
you about the ship, and so she knows automatically all right,
I'll literally go off for forty minutes and then she'll
be like, well, you're the.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
Only person who does that. It's so unfortunate.

Speaker 6 (38:10):
It's fine, I give you no, no, no, that other people
don't yeah, because I would like to know, like they
just and you know that people will have like a little.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
Fake conversation, Hey, how are you right? Okay, well let
me tell you.

Speaker 6 (38:22):
I'm like, oh, the point the track, yeah, just keep
it real please, right.

Speaker 4 (38:28):
Well, I don't think that's a bad choice, and that's
you're protecting your energy exactly, protecting your energy. I think
more people should do that.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
You should create. Like I know there's a thing about
being mean, but like you, if you don't have the
capacity for it, then it's not really going to hit
like you needed to hit anyway. Because the whole time
I was on the phone with my friend, I was like,
I always like my phone.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 4 (38:50):
Today today I was on the phone with my friend
that dumps on me a lot. But he's learned because
I've also told him that I've said, hey, it would
be nice if sometimes you could ask permission because I'm
actually going through a lot right now and I love you,
and so like I'm gonna enter naturally get to worry
and it's like so anyway, but I also know with him,
I'm always giving him advice, and so today I just

(39:12):
like didn't say a lot and he was like hello, Hello,
I'm like, yes, I'm here, I'm listening. He's like, oh okay,
and he's like, well anyway, like he didn't was because
I had nothing to say. There was not like so
then yeah, so but I was like, oh, yeah, so
you just need to get that off. Okay, I got it.
So anyway, I thought that was yeah. And if you're

(39:33):
listening and you have any Bad Choices or any advice
questions that you want, because we're experted BCE givers, go
make sure you go to our website Good Monthbad Choices
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interested to hear one of your guys' horror stories if
you have one. In a bit, I have a question
because you know, obviously our both of our podcasts are

(39:56):
like friends, like we're we're BA based and rooted in friendship.
How have you guys, if if anything, how do you
guys navigate conflict within your friendship? Like anything, like where
you have disagreement. We're not the people what's your style,
what's your style?

Speaker 2 (40:11):
Because we don't really haven't.

Speaker 5 (40:13):
You never have conflict, You've never had an argument, And
we've had like really intense conversations, like things have happened,
we've had to sit down and talk about it, but
genuinely we'll just sit down and talk about it.

Speaker 6 (40:22):
Yeah, I feel like Mindy and I have always had
a very mature level of friendship where we can just
talk through anything, and we like we joke all the
time that we share the same brain.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
We share, we share.

Speaker 6 (40:36):
The same views on everything, how we navigate any type
of relationship, jobs, like everything. We're both very not your twin.
I really don't know, but that's why we work so
well together. We're we just approach things in a very
rational fashion, and we are very different in certain respects,
but it's like very it's it's like outlier things, nothing

(40:57):
that involves our connection because like she's more Type A
than me, and she will like do all the things
type of things out all that ship.

Speaker 5 (41:05):
I have no capacity for that. I am just a
floating member. I'm just like out here doing things. Also,
I am the froggy one, I'll fight somebody she won't,
like I will pop up, I'll tell somebody something she
never will and like she'll tell me, and I'll be like, Okay,
are you telling me this because you want me.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
To do something?

Speaker 4 (41:24):
I have won two switches on or off? That's what
I'm saying, like literally, advice or no advice, Okay.

Speaker 5 (41:30):
And so I think that aside from that, though we are,
I could and nobody wants to believe me when I
say this, I genuinely believe that if you gave me
a series of like situations, I could tell you what
would do?

Speaker 3 (41:41):
Yeah, for sure, not like a she.

Speaker 4 (41:44):
Will you say that you have a card game here?

Speaker 2 (41:49):
Yes, what is that?

Speaker 4 (41:51):
It's a little game game?

Speaker 3 (41:52):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (41:53):
And so I think maybe Tabria, you could choose a card,
read it out loud, and and tell me what you
would do. Whisper it in my ear, okay, and then
we'll see if she knows. Okay, okay, any card mm
hmm for a hundred thousand dollars to whisper No, no, no,

(42:16):
I'm gonna read it to you. I'm gonna read it
out loud so she knows what it is, and you're
gonna tell me what your answer is, and then she's
gonna say she thinks your answer is okay. For a
hundred thousand dollars, would you not? Would you not bathe
or shower for a year? This is stupid. Let's do another.

Speaker 5 (42:30):
Don't say the answer is no, she wouldn't. If you
get if you said one hundred million, I'd say, yes
you would. I would be like, okay, or.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
Is it like a week? If it was? If it
was a week, I would say yes, you would do.

Speaker 3 (42:50):
That's how much people's salaries is like.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
A year is crazy.

Speaker 3 (42:55):
A year is crazy. So I'm just gonna be staking
for a hundred thousand Okay, what is.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
Sure?

Speaker 3 (43:03):
Let me see.

Speaker 4 (43:06):
Maybe you should have betted these questions.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
First, wait, what is it?

Speaker 3 (43:11):
Would you sleep with an insanely attractive person who had
their limbs removed at the elbow and knees?

Speaker 5 (43:20):
This is so funny, because don't you think I want
to say things to one leg?

Speaker 3 (43:27):
I was gonna say. I was gonna say, are you
are you cancer? Yes? That's why I know.

Speaker 6 (43:32):
That, because yeah, I'm sorry, it's a no for her.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
I know it is. It's a it's kind of offensive.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
I know.

Speaker 5 (43:43):
Maybe they have if you say, nor exactly, but no,
I'm sorry, I'm too big.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
For that insanely attractive.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
What does that have to do with I'm not fucking
your faith?

Speaker 4 (44:00):
I mean maybe, Okay, is there a better question?

Speaker 3 (44:07):
Could you have a long term relationship with someone who
has completely different political views than you?

Speaker 2 (44:12):
I'm black, No, no, clear.

Speaker 5 (44:17):
I think that Toria would be open to having conversation
and then seeing how staunchly rooted you are in those beliefs.
If this is something that she can like show you evidence,
like empirical evidence and then sway you.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
She would do it.

Speaker 5 (44:28):
But if if it's a lost cause, no, no, never,
could you? Like political views and political ideologies are one
thing I'm not willing to.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
Wait, it's not even political. It's in this climate political
you are humanity. It's like, yeah, it's about humanity at
this point, and that I can't like I don't fuk
with that yet and I don't and I'm definitely gonna
come home and like, yes, I'm down to like have conversations,
present empirical evidence, but at the same time, like if

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you speak Mandarin and I speak English, you know what
I mean, And like your household is supposed to be
like a safe space, like you know, especially as black
people they outside of the world, there's so much already
like like.

Speaker 5 (45:14):
It reminds me of people who are black and in
relationships with people whose entire family is super racist, who
they may not be the most racist outwardly, but they are.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
Deep within themselves.

Speaker 5 (45:27):
And you're like, but he's so nice to me, but
he literally called the uber driver because he was black
a nigga, Like shit like that, there's something mentally wrong
with you.

Speaker 3 (45:37):
I saw a TikTok of a black woman who is
married to a white man, and oh my god, I thought,
I sent this to you. The mother, the grandmother, the
white the man's mother.

Speaker 4 (45:46):
Guy three.

Speaker 3 (45:50):
Monkeys tattooed on her arm to represent their children.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
No, no, I.

Speaker 5 (45:54):
Need you to understand hyper realistic gorilla gorilla for her
mixed breed grandchildren.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
And then like and she was like, you gotta put
a slave on when I come out over because that's
just not right. I don't want to come out. And
she was like sometimes she would wear the sleeve and
then sometimes she would act like she forgot to sleep.
Wait who the grandmother put this to her husband, like
her mother in law tattooed this on herself, yes, to
represent her three children.

Speaker 2 (46:19):
Because they're by racial and they're still married.

Speaker 4 (46:21):
Was she doing it in the loving way or was
she doing it to antagonize them? What was her like?
What was her I mean, I'm not saying there's any
there's no waystand her mind.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
Basically said that she would joke ever since the kids.

Speaker 4 (46:33):
Were born because the kids like their little monkeys.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
Yeah, like my little monkeys.

Speaker 5 (46:36):
Ah, my little monkey. And she said that she told
her husband make her stop. I don't like that, right.
Her husband was like, oh, mom, she's just joking, like
you know what. She she doesn't mean monkey.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
In like a racist way.

Speaker 5 (46:46):
She means monkey, like her little monkey. And I like
the wife was like, okay, cool, fine, fine, fine. And
then one day she showed up with the tattoo and
they were hyper realistic gorillas, and she was like, she came.

Speaker 3 (46:57):
On, no, she's it's not hyper real. It's like the apes.
It's like it's like it's like detailed. She could have
got a face, but she got hyper realistic.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
Or she could have got flowers, hearts, anything in a
three that's wild.

Speaker 3 (47:15):
It's like a seventh part series.

Speaker 4 (47:18):
Sixtak story time.

Speaker 5 (47:19):
No, it's well, yeah, sort of, but she shows pictures,
So I think that the grandma herself came on TikTok
to defend herself.

Speaker 3 (47:29):
My god, this is wild. I can't how did.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
He react to that?

Speaker 6 (47:35):
The sun like, yeah, this is somebody to talk about it?

Speaker 2 (47:42):
Hyper realistic?

Speaker 3 (47:43):
Hyper realistic?

Speaker 4 (47:48):
Why are they this dark? Why are they why are they.

Speaker 6 (47:54):
Like not even a cute caricature for real?

Speaker 3 (48:00):
From her ankle pass I mean from her.

Speaker 4 (48:03):
Like I need to see the rest of her body?
What's going on? Because this is from zero to one
hundred real quick, and I'm imagining a granny with like
these hyper realistic gorilla's on her form.

Speaker 5 (48:12):
I think the issue is when people, and I'm not
trying to fuck it, when white people pretend like there
racism can be like covered over or overshadowed by ignorance.
I didn't really You know, when people when a white
person calls a black person a monkey, you know what
that means. You understand the racial undertones, and so for

(48:34):
you to be like it's just a cute thing, You're
a fucking lying bitch. Pick another thing, like you're fucking lion.
You're doing that to antagonize your daughter in law, and
you hate the fact that your children are mixed with
hate it, and you hate it with the passion, and that's.

Speaker 4 (48:47):
So much that you tattoo it off.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
Yes, you hate it.

Speaker 3 (48:50):
I mean I would have to. I would have to
love the fucking your dirty the first to cut your
family off.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
Yeah, my kids are not.

Speaker 5 (48:58):
And that was what the TikTok started off with because
she basically was telling telling TikTok that she told her
husband she doesn't want the grandma around at all anymore.
And he was like, that's my mom, Like that's the
children's grandmother.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
And she was like, am I the asshole?

Speaker 1 (49:11):
Like?

Speaker 2 (49:11):
Am I being irrational in asking this?

Speaker 3 (49:13):
But then again, you have the question her you started
this relationship with these people?

Speaker 4 (49:18):
That part So this is a whole you situation.

Speaker 3 (49:21):
That part this, You know what I mean? You you
had three the three kids later. Yeah, there were no
signs before and certain things like I'm not about to
be dealing with that ship and my where I'm supposed
to be safe all that. I honestly I like black people.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
You said you didn't I do like I wanted.

Speaker 3 (49:43):
I wanted only date black. Oh, I don't want to
date out of my race. I'm not way too but
I have, but I don't like I just.

Speaker 5 (49:54):
In my friend group, literally they say that I'm racist
because no, I refuse, like literally be like, oh, like
somebody who's so fine, but they're like white, and I'm like.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
Shout out to you. I hope you find what you're
looking for. It's not me like it just it can't
work out.

Speaker 5 (50:09):
I I think I'm way too loud about how I
feel about black people that I could never.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
I just can't.

Speaker 3 (50:16):
You would have to be a militant black white.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
But to me even that, I don't like that because
now I.

Speaker 5 (50:21):
Feel like you are. It's performative and and I don't.
I don't do the the what do they call them that,
spicy whites?

Speaker 2 (50:27):
I'm not doing that. I don't care. Like basically, I know,
I don't like that. I don't like that.

Speaker 4 (50:38):
Is that your tex spicy whites?

Speaker 3 (50:40):
I mean you, I want to do white. I gotta you,
gotta come on.

Speaker 5 (50:43):
That's the most performative of performative. Because I know people.

Speaker 3 (50:52):
Neighborhoods black faces.

Speaker 4 (50:53):
They also have this theory about white souls and black soul.

Speaker 3 (50:55):
We do sometimes you can be black and have a
white soul.

Speaker 2 (51:02):
You know, you know, I I too have a theory.
I mean, I don't think.

Speaker 5 (51:10):
I think it's very controversial, and I don't know because
I think that there are a lot of people. I'm
not saying that all whites, but I do believe that
there are a lot of white people who don't have souls,
and I think that it's distinctly like proven within certain
things that are just like natural human beings, right, like rhythm,
like no no.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
No, like tribal culture. Like.

Speaker 5 (51:33):
I think that there are certain white people that are
non tribal, non like lack empathy, have no rhythm, and
I think that it's just you don't have a soul.
Like I'm sorry, and I'm not saying that it's a
hell of white people that are like this, but I
do believe that there are some where y'all not from here,
like you are not in I think that years, centuries,

(51:53):
millennia ago the earth was the aliens already here, and
they came they colonize the planet. And that's why no
matter where you go in every culture, there are the
lighter skinned people at the top, the whites at the top,
who are just like you are beneath us and it's like,
where the fuck did that come from.

Speaker 4 (52:12):
I don't think that.

Speaker 5 (52:15):
I don't think that that's something that is natural to humans, you.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
Know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (52:22):
Like, I think you go to you look at Asian cultures,
you look at at Hispanic cultures. Across the board, there
is a certain level of like familiarity and like but no,
but just like love amongst the masses, until you bring
that one white presenting.

Speaker 4 (52:37):
And respect for the land. There's also like an rootedness
to the earth that indigenous people hold within their spirit,
their soul.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
Okay, only in a white nation do you make it illegal.

Speaker 5 (52:49):
To plant female trees because you don't want people to
eat for free. Only in white nations do you bottle
natural resources and then you sell it back to people
who can't fucking afford Like it's just ship like it's.

Speaker 3 (52:59):
Even at a different different exactly.

Speaker 5 (53:02):
It's like you're you're harvesting the energy of everyone around you,
vampire vampire, for your own benefit. And I don't think
that that that is the opposite of tribal and it's
like a parasite.

Speaker 3 (53:13):
Yeah, very parasitic.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
Yeah, very parasitic. And that's why I think that they're
not from here.

Speaker 3 (53:19):
It's definitely a different breed.

Speaker 4 (53:21):
Do you think that maybe they're non parent, like they're
non parasitic from wherever they're from, or they're just naturally parasitic.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
What do you mean? I think that they're naturally parasitic
because they're not from here.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
No.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
I think that what you know, you're not from.

Speaker 4 (53:33):
The place you feel like it's to take. But wherever
they're from, whatever planet, space or place that they're from,
is there like a different way that they exist? Do
you know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (53:41):
I think they're like tapeworm No, I think they're like
tapeworms or like any kind of like when you go
from planet to planet, you suck the like, look at
what's happening to Earth. We don't got much longer here
because all the that like we fuck the plant. Let
me not even say we, but they fucked the planet
up right, And what is their plan? Let's go to Mars,
let's go here. Literally, that is the mindset of like, well,

(54:04):
we show up, we suck it up, and then we
move on to the next galaxy in the next era
and the next whatever. And I don't think that that
is ever something that's ever been in the mind of
any indigenous people ever.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
You have reverence for the land that you're on. You
you you know you have. It's just it's embedded in
the culture, and that is the only culture where I
don't see it.

Speaker 3 (54:26):
I have a long dissertation about this topic, but I
don't know if we have time.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
We don't.

Speaker 3 (54:30):
Yeah, I have, yeah, so I'll see it for next episode.
I'm gonna write down my bullet points please, because I didn't.
I have a lot of it needs to be to
the public.

Speaker 4 (54:44):
This is this is the p s A okay that
I'll get back to it. Affirmations or oh why is
eon look at me? You said to my dissertation?

Speaker 7 (54:57):
No?

Speaker 3 (55:03):
Is that because we declined? My ladies, do we have
any horries? Any horror stories?

Speaker 2 (55:17):
Who stories? Not? As of late?

Speaker 3 (55:23):
You get the weekends off.

Speaker 4 (55:24):
There's also we have a we have a discord horror story.
If none of you ladies have a horror story, but
of course I would love to hear the thick Horse story.
You don't have any lesbian horror stories like you lesbian adventures,
trap ons and things and things. The thing is, what
was your first strap on experience?

Speaker 2 (55:38):
What was that like? It was great?

Speaker 4 (55:40):
I want to know, I've never been just.

Speaker 5 (55:41):
Saying okay, this is probably the worst situation that I've had.
I and it's not even like bad bad, but it's
very lesbianic. So I was dating on that world. I
met her randomly at a party like gorgeous. I was
really excited about it. By like our third date, I
think we ended up getting down to it right and
leading up to this date, like we were talking and

(56:03):
like it was very much so like oh my god,
I'm so glad that I met you, blah blah blah,
like intense connection. And so when we get into it,
we like fucked the first round because it happens in rounds,
and we like took a break, and while we were
taking the break, she was like, I need to tell
you something. So it's like what and she was like, oh,
you know, I was dating this one person before we

(56:24):
met and then we ended things and she was like,
you know, she came back around and like, I'm not
saying that I want to stop dating you because me
and this person weren't exclusive, but I am probably gonna
start talking to them again.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
And I was like, okay, like tell me about it.

Speaker 5 (56:36):
And so she tells me that, you know, she basically
played or whatever, and she really had feeling into this person.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
So I was like, my, that's so crazy. We end
up fucking around again. We get to it.

Speaker 5 (56:44):
I'm literally down there just like eating a feast and
she's talking about this girl and so I'm like giving.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
Her advice, like literally, like, so what did she say
after that?

Speaker 5 (56:55):
I swear to God going back doing the thing, and
like she's like, yeah, I just don't know. I feel
like she's gonna play with me again. And I'm like
I don't know if mohamma Fields could take that.

Speaker 2 (57:02):
And I'm just like, well, you know who you are,
stand up, bro, and like going back.

Speaker 5 (57:06):
The whole time, we're like fucking and like talking about
this relationship, coaching her right literally And after that, literally
like maybe like a month after that, we ended up
stopping because she got back with this person.

Speaker 3 (57:18):
Cancer story I've ever heard.

Speaker 5 (57:20):
But the crazy thing is cancer and she was a
scorpio and I'm like, oh, yeah, we're just having this
like moment moment.

Speaker 4 (57:27):
Yeah, yeah, you're so crazy.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
No, yeah, what's the cool?

Speaker 3 (57:31):
Mm hm wow that's beautiful.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
Or they shi together there and love.

Speaker 3 (57:36):
I was like, go off, see something, coach, Mandy, you're
thinking two for one and sometimes it's not your it's
not your nigga, and that's okay, okay, Like you know,
like I think people have, like there's such an ownership
and territorialness. It's like you have to accept when like,
you know what, this doesn't work. You have a white
soul wife or whatever that happened to mean. That was

(57:58):
my own story. So you know this and carry on.
Find your person for sure, for sure, and that's in love,
like it's in love and care.

Speaker 5 (58:06):
No, that's not personating in general. At the end of
the day, you have one person. I can date ninety
nine people, only one of.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
Them gonna be mine.

Speaker 5 (58:14):
So I'm not gonna get attached to this idea unless
I know for sure, or unless like a terror reading
on YouTube told me that you were my person.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
I'm gonna let it go.

Speaker 4 (58:22):
Very important.

Speaker 3 (58:22):
Women love to make a person a negative person when
their motherfucker. Okay, that is our favorite activity. That is
we will.

Speaker 4 (58:33):
How about our favorite activity.

Speaker 3 (58:36):
I think that.

Speaker 5 (58:36):
Frontal love development really helped me out though, because I
was in it deep. I remember there was one time
when it was complete, so there was one time developments.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
We were both down bad, down bad bad.

Speaker 5 (58:47):
And I don't mean like like ten years ago. I
mean like within like the last six to seven years.
And I remember we sat in the house one day
and we ran through this woman's like tarot.

Speaker 2 (58:56):
Card and we were literally just like, okay, look at
the cards. Pick.

Speaker 5 (59:01):
We sat there and watched all these pigg of cards
and we were like, she knows, it's send.

Speaker 3 (59:08):
Me the link. Speaking of tarot card, Yes, pull a card,
my ladies.

Speaker 2 (59:14):
Okay, what is the six of ones?

Speaker 3 (59:25):
What's the.

Speaker 2 (59:30):
Okay? And the emperor?

Speaker 5 (59:31):
Are we conquering ship, conquering leading the team first of
all student people.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
I was about say, I wonder if the same as that.
It's definitely not the same, Okay, Okay.

Speaker 3 (59:43):
This of wands, the six of Wands appears when you
have reached an important milestone or achieved a significant goal,
and you're confident, self assured, and successful. You harness your
strengths and talents and bring about a happy outcome and
your endeavors and made it through the chaos of the
five of Wands, minimizing you to dictions and focusing on
the task at hand. Yes, they were challenges along the way,

(01:00:04):
but you overcame them. By concentrating your energies on the big,
on the one target, it suggests that not only have
you achieved your goals and your confident, self assured, and
successful wait hold on, achieved your goals, but you're receiving
public acknowledgment for your efforts. You may have recently received
an award, a claim, recognition from your peers for your work,
and it may have just been a pat on the back.

(01:00:26):
With this attention is a big boost to your confidence
and gives you the strength to continue your endeavors.

Speaker 6 (01:00:31):
Yes, I feel like that resonates like how we were
talking about, Like I feel comfortable getting back into the
swing of things now.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
So yeah, this is affirming that. Honestly, I like Mommy.

Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
I like this era I do.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
It's really nice. It's different.

Speaker 4 (01:00:46):
What do you think is what's different about mommys pre Mommy.

Speaker 5 (01:00:51):
I think I think I enjoy the fact that she
slowed down, and I think that she needed this break
and she didn't realize it. And I understand that the
transition was probably very rough. But I think that you
are more fully formed in like who you are, what
you like, what you want as opposed to what's gonna

(01:01:12):
work what's gonna give me money?

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
What's gonna do? Yeah, and I think that you just
you've seem happier. Yeah, it's I am. She's amazing and
she's really softened me up. That's the biggest thing. I
think intuition finally working.

Speaker 3 (01:01:25):
Finally. I mean, births is a right of passage.

Speaker 7 (01:01:30):
It is.

Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
It really is the right of passage, and people like
you know, there's a lot of things said about it.
It's not always like the true depiction. It is rough
as hell, but overall it's like after you go through births,
you're like, okay, like I birth the baby bit.

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
In a room full of water signs that's crazy at fun.

Speaker 3 (01:01:51):
Pisces flowing.

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
Yeah, I love that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
Make me hollo.

Speaker 4 (01:02:04):
I'm so happy to have you guys back on Yeah, yeah,
congratulations on coming back to the podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:02:10):
World Y.

Speaker 4 (01:02:11):
I'll make sure you go check out the Thick podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:02:13):
Wait, do you guys have affirmation for the people?

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
Oh? My affirmation.

Speaker 6 (01:02:18):
It's it's a cliche, but don't stress over the things
you can't control. That's something I really learned throughout motherhood too.

Speaker 7 (01:02:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
Really keeps.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
Get chaotic.

Speaker 5 (01:02:32):
I have too that I literally I swear by and
one of them. I know y'all think you are going
to think that I'm joking, but I'm being dead ass
when I'm in the shower, especially when like somebody's bothering me.
So I need someone just like leave me the fuck alone.
And it started off with people that I was dating
or whatever. In the shower as I'm washing my body,
I'll literally be like, scrub a dub duble, scrub, leave

(01:02:54):
me the alone.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
I swear to.

Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
God, I promise you I scrub.

Speaker 5 (01:03:07):
I would think about the person. I'd be like, leave
me the funk alone, and then I guess.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
I don't got to do nothing like leave me alone alone, please.

Speaker 5 (01:03:18):
And then the other one is everything I desire desires
me back. So I know that literally every single time
I want something, I don't want it and I'm not.
I it's kind of guaranteed to me because the only
reason why I have this feeling is because it's calling
out to me too.

Speaker 3 (01:03:34):
So if it's planning, if the seat is planet, is
because it's also being called Yeah. I like that feelings
are mutual, Yes exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:03:43):
M hm. Well, thank you ladies for coming on. Yes,
where can our audience find you?

Speaker 6 (01:03:50):
For the thick podcasts everywhere. I'm Tabria Majors everywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
I'm damn mindy on every platform.

Speaker 5 (01:03:57):
Subscribe to my YouTube, check me out on TikTok, follow
my Instagram.

Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
I'm not on X fuck that platform?

Speaker 3 (01:04:03):
What are the girls do?

Speaker 4 (01:04:05):
Clocket middle middle Okay, oh, well, you know where to
find us a good Mom's underscore, Bad Choices on Instagram,
Follow us on TikTok. We're trying to I don't know what.

Speaker 3 (01:04:20):
I don't know. It's TikTok.

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
Are we are? We on TikTok forever.

Speaker 4 (01:04:23):
I guess everybody's on tik TikTok, and make sure you
follow the good vibe treat and come with us. Twenty
twenty six, We're going to do some beautiful places with
some magical women. Y'all need to come on one of our.

Speaker 3 (01:04:37):
Actually drift.

Speaker 4 (01:04:38):
It's really it's really a beautiful time and we love
you and we'll see you next week.

Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
By Yeah, I'm been so good. Can't you tell? I
went through a drought.

Speaker 3 (01:04:52):
That's until I find a will may might have been known.

Speaker 7 (01:04:54):
Art that used to be broken tail now got the
blues Dans and like Beyonce, justlroat.

Speaker 2 (01:04:59):
Shot pop in his car wearing our voices.

Speaker 7 (01:05:01):
Patriarchy kept it in the box to it's flota. Women
put the pee and powers, So what's pointless? They want
me to be good, so I make bad choices.

Speaker 5 (01:05:09):
Bad mom.

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
Not a bad mom, but a bad mom.

Speaker 7 (01:05:12):
It he's in on the cannabis in their bathbon walked
in boscels cap and I blew his cat boss hot dog.

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
Now I'm immune to.

Speaker 7 (01:05:19):
The cat called Herbie and no waisted straight to it
like a dollar sign.

Speaker 3 (01:05:22):
Mother, rent the lover when two.

Speaker 7 (01:05:24):
It's like a water sign where you're renting winter essential
will when the summertime.

Speaker 3 (01:05:28):
I do what doll?

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
They know when I need to run it by

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