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November 12, 2025 85 mins

This week Erica & Milah sit down with Parker McKenna Posey AKA Katie from My Wife and Kids about growing up in Hollywood, motherhood at 25, body confidence, birth trauma, and why Parker’s mantra is “I',m a Good Mom first, and a bad btch immediately after.”

 

You can expect to hear:

  • The truth about being a child star turned mom + artist
  • Body image after fame & motherhood
  • Speaking your truth even when it makes people uncomfortable
  • Sex, weed & wellness confessions
  • Patriarchy, pleasure, and the power of women who refuse to shrink

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Once upon a time there was a good old traditional housewife,
and she couldn't. She cleaned and cared for her children
and the man of the house, and of course she
didn't talk back. She was both obedient and soft by nature.
She was a good woman who always made good choices.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
That we're good mom's bad choices. Who's single mom who
said fuck the patriarchy, shared all their bad choices and
sound out they were so bad. After all, we're experts,
overshares and your new besties. Sit back and enjoy the ride.
I can do it.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
Welcome back to good Mom's bad Choices. I'm Erica and
I'm Mila.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Happy hump Day, bitchy, happy motherfucking hump day. How's everyone
feeling today, That's how I'm feeling. I'm feeling like she
take a deep inhale an ex hell of sounds. You know,
sometimes when you're just in your head and you're living

(00:56):
in your head like all day or all week, and
then suddenly you're like, I'm like, oh, yeah, well yeah,
I don't have to live up here. I can live.
I can move that energy out, And then you'd be
forgetting because you're just My mind is like the mind
is a crazy thing, and I think sometimes I just
get so caught up in it and then I'm like, bitch,
wake up, and I'm like, oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
Like all those were lies. None of those things are
actually happening.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Literally, yesterday, I was with my homegirl and I was
telling her this whole thing, and I was like and
then then and she was like, you realize no one
else is thinking that but you. And I was like,
this is not why I told you this. I'm telling
you so you can agree with me. And she was like, no,
no one's thinking this but you. You realize this is all
in your head. And I was like, fuck you, thank you,

(01:38):
call you later. But yeah, that's how I've been feeling lately.
And we just got back in town. How are you feeling.
I feel great? Oh, oh you know I forgot to
give you a hug.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
I went to go try on wedding dresses for the
first time because I figured I should try on and
get into the mood, and Erica got I FaceTime Erica
and this bitch starts crying. I was that beautiful. And
then I was like, is she even crying? Cry it? Now?
I'm like, why am.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
I the only one crying? I was so I was
so mad that I couldn't make it. I texted me
it's like it's fine. I'm like, it's not fine that
I'm not there, and I was like, then there was
like two people there, and I was like, what's wrong
with this bitch?

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Why did she only write two people? It's like fucking
Tuesday at ten am.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
It is your first time ever putting on a fucking
wedding dress on I know, did you cry?

Speaker 2 (02:28):
I didn't? What the fuck? It's because I wasn't there,
That's what happened. Maybe I you know what I realized?
Orlando told me that I am a intercided person. Does
that mean that I'm I introvert my excitement? And I
was like, fuck? Is he right? Because I was like.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
Trying to have never heard of this intercited? He made
it up, he goes therapy. I thought, maybe picked up
along the way.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
Like you're very interested interciited as always, like you're you're
introverted with your excitement.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
Oh, intro like exciting, I think like a side like excited.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Introcited that like when it's something really good is happening,
like I can't fully express and I'm like, oh no,
I think he's kind of right because I could still
feel myself. He's like, what do you think you're too
cool to be excited? And I was like, no, it
was cool, it was fun. He's like, what the fuck
is wrong with you to dress? I know I feel
the same way Orlando.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
He was like, Okay, well now we're gonna to do
it again, and then I have to come and cry
so that you cry okay, and you get excited.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
I was excited. I was like, oh my god, I'm
bit just wearing a dress. It's so heavy. Oh my god,
it was very overwhelming. I got to drinking.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
Were white I was when I was thinking. I was like,
she like, I didn't know that you would wear a
white dress.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
I was. I was debating it, but I like, then
what color?

Speaker 3 (03:38):
I don't know? But I just like, I don't know
because you're so untraditional, like white is like so traditional
marriage virginal type shit.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
You know, I'm kind of traditional though, you're like fake
traditional though, No I'm not. I'm traditional and like fake
and like I'm gonna wear the white dress, so you're
fake untraditional. I'm traditional on the surface. Thing.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
You've heard it here first, Mela's fake untraditional, she's a
fake O.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
And also it's true. It's true.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
Well you look beautiful, and I was sad that I
wasn't there, but the pictures are beautiful and I'm excited
for you.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
I'm excited too. The dress was fifteen thousand dollars. Oh
that's so it's not gonna happen. But I was like, oh,
fifteen to five. I'm over there every day for the
rest of my life. But what the fuck? I never
had a garment that's fifteen thousand dollars, So that was ridiculous.
Who knew, Like who's buying the shit? But I'm just
gonna like steal all the all the all the things

(04:30):
and then take it to Balie, take my metriments to Balie.
Trust me. Yeah yeah, but yeah, that was exciting this week.
And yeah, just you know, every week, fighting for my
mental health in my life, just like everybody else.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Yeah, well we're alive, we're driving, we have breath, and.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
We're fine. A sale, so there's that. There's that, like
how much can I complain about a roof over my head?
I'm fine as hell, I ate, I'm smart, I'm smart,
I'm funny. I'm going to Jamaica in April for four
twenty with My Girls.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
Yeah so I know, speaking of which, we launched our
retreat today. I don't know when this episode's coming out,
but it's basically almost sold out, so if you're hearing this,
it might be too late. But if not, click the
link in this episode description and join us in Jamaica
for four to.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Twenty April seventeenth through the twenty second. It's gonna be bombed.
We have a beachside villa. We're going to be smoking.
But if you don't smoke, it's fine. You can come
and drink wine or just shake your ass. You don't
have to do all the things that we do, but
you should come and eat this motherfucking food because it
was so much fun. It was good, and I got thick.
I was looking at pictures. I got like ten pounds thicker.

(05:37):
I don't know what happened. I was looking at pictures
of myself too.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
I got thick also, and that's not what I wanted.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
I was like, I didn't get watch to Jamaica. I was.
I was thicker than a snicker for one week. I'll
give you any of this fat you would take it.
We have the same blood type.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
Oh yeah, no, oh we do yeah, okay, can I
give you so I can give you a fat transfer.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
I just made that up night.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
Wait, maybe we could really do that.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
I just figured if we had the same we have
the rarest form of blood and we have the same one,
and she kin thought that was very interesting, and I
think it's interesting too.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
We should go to Lovely Mimi's doctor in Miami and
I can see if our fats line up, and then
I can inject. I can take fat out of my
stomach and put it in your ass, and.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Then we'll be like actual sisters, Oh my god, like
blood sisters. Like not enough that we have matching tattoos.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
We also need to have each other's bodies inside of
one another, perfect, totally normal.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
I got a BBL transfer from Erica, me and Erica.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
That's my ass, I mean my stomach on her ass.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
I got a fat transfer, what fat from me? And
Erica got bbl's. I'm the bb she's the l sorry anywhere.
We have a really special guest today, y'all. I'm very
excited to introduce to this show actress Mama and Motherfucker
Pop Store Parker McKenna Posy bie is everything.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
I just love you guys.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
We go off on tangents. They don't have to make
any sense.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
Do you know your blood type?

Speaker 4 (07:08):
I think I'm a positive And that's why I was like,
what is the what is the special one?

Speaker 2 (07:14):
I mean, should we tell people? Because then maybe tell
me after I just like they're gonna come get us
a special I don't know, it's too much information. We
already have a lot of information on the internet. Just chill.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
Even though I think I told everybody when I said
I think I told everyone like three times on an
episode of Right.

Speaker 4 (07:30):
But that's what I was wondering. You said the rare one.
I'm thinking I have the rare one.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
So we're all cond it's a positive. A be positive
is the rarest blood that Jesus is blood?

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Probably yea some special blood?

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Say had they Where are the matching tattoos? I have
to know as well. We have our bad choices.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
I love that, Yes, old English right.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
I don't know why we didn't opt to get good
moms over. We just went straight for bad choices.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
I don't want good moms on my body. I mean
that's a given.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Yeah, that's true, that's true. I know sometimes I always
wonder when I'm wearing like our bad Choicesclaus, I'm like,
I wonder if people are like, what the fuck is
she sporting her bad choices for it's provocative. It gets
the people going, you know. I always say this. It's
like this episode of You've Steen It on Avid Elementary
and there's like a mom and she's wearing like a
slat shirt, a bad bitch, come on girl, professional she's

(08:31):
like a bad as a mom's like a bad bitch
shirt and the teacher is like, that's me. Excuse me, ma'am.
Can you wear more appropriate clothes to the drop off?
She was like, excuse me, this is my braind and
it is an advocate for all women who have ever
been called a slat. And she's like, she's like, you
still have a baby. I'm a baby mama. This is
a million dollar business. Oh I'm sorry. And I was like,

(08:54):
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Speaker 3 (08:57):
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Speaker 2 (09:02):
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Speaker 2 (09:13):
And one of my favorite pieces is sex Weed and
Wellness because.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
I almost wore that today. I wore to the gym though.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
That's one of my favorite sex Weed and Wellness. I'm like,
what more do you need? Sex weed and Wellness? Agreed? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (09:26):
Anyway, Hi Parker him my last. How you doing. I'm
doing great today, I am. I'm really excited to have
you on the show. I've done my I've done some
stalking of you, but more importantly, I've watched you on
TV as you were when you were a child, because
I was also sort of a child. Oh fun fact,
random fact. I didn't even tell you this. Okay, I
auditioned for the TV show that you're on My my wife, I.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
Have kids, Jennifer Freeman. I saw audition.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
I could see that you saw audition with her all
the time as a kid, because I've also acted as
a tr as well. Okay, and I was really pissed
when I saw her on the screen.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
I was hating.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
I was like, what the fuck, Like, Oh, finally she got.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
Her big break. We've been doing that. Finally congratulations.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
I've been out a name for like five years together.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
He like that.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
Though auditioning though low key, it used to be shady
as hell. You would have to see each other all
the time. So with low key, I understand it's shadiness,
especially when there's like twenty two of the same bitches
that look us. If I see one more light curly
bitch walking.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
Through the door and then and they know who you're
going to cast, Fuck you wasting my time, become your
friends time.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
She had to come here and get off work and
off right right, I'm screaming traffic and ship.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
The traffic used to be the word, Oh my god. Well,
I know, driving the Santa Monica driving five o'clock.

Speaker 5 (10:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
Now we do self tape, so like it's I don't
have to see a bitch and I.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
Just submit my ship and there you go. You know,
it's crazy.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
I recently got back into acting, so I've been auditioning
more and I've been doing self tapes, and I thought
I would like it more, but I think because I've
been out of the game for so long, Like I'm like,
I went to an in person audition and I was like,
oh my God, I really like this.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
Yes you and like you can give me notes, you
can feel the energy of the room.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
It's a totally different experience, but it seems like a
lot more pressure doing it yourself.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
Yeah, because I got to find somebody.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
Like literally, I had this audition the other day and
my boyfriend like does a lot of myself tapes for me,
but this one, I was like, I picked him up
to come do it and he was like I was.
As I'm driving back to my house to record this,
I'm like, I don't think that.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
I didn't think this through. He shouldn't read this with me.
This is inappropriate, like it's supposed to be a woman
that says. So one of the lines is like my
husband likes when I suck his dick and that, and
that was what he was gonna have to say to me.
And I was like, this is weird. So I was like, baby,
I don't think that you can read this with me.
It's like it's gonna be fine. I was like, okay,
do you like feminize your voice? And he was like no,

(12:04):
and I was like please, and he's like I'm not
doing that.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
That feminize your voice.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
I was like, just try.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
I get it though, but imagine like I was respond
to that authentically, I need to.

Speaker 4 (12:16):
Even sending it off to the producers and then yeah,
it is. It's distracting for us doing it, and said,
I told this is hilarious that.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
What I said to him.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
I said, the producers are going to be so distracted
when they hear my husband likes.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
And I so goosed dude, and I was like no.
So We're in the car and I'm like trying to
coach him. I'm like, come on.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
He's like, he's like, okay, my husband likes. I was
like no, So I'm like, let me call my other
actor friend. So we call his homegirl and I'm like,
he can't read this line.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
She's like no.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
And I was like, can I face Because I've been
so out of the game for so long, I was like,
can we get Can I FaceTime a girl to do this?
She's like, girl, have my Most of my self tapes
are someone face timing.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
I was like, oh my god.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
That's when I called our friend New York and it
was already midnight in New York and I was like, Hey,
are you awake. She's like, what do you need? I'm
like I need you, I need you to read these
lines with me. And so he's setting it up. I
have like her face time next to the phone, and
I was like, this is so extra A lot of.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Pressure just walking the room. They keep doing it and
that's endless, Like you need to stay there like there
should have been in fifteen yourself like hella, yeah, editing,
it's a lot of pressure, it is.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
Anyway, how was it working on that show as a kid?

Speaker 2 (13:31):
It was great.

Speaker 4 (13:32):
I mean it didn't really feel like work. It was
just felt like, you know, normal life. Like I didn't
feel like I was waking up and having to like,
oh I have to go to work. It just felt like,
you know, being with my family. We were like a family. Yeah,
it was good.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
And and then like, you've been acting since how old
were you when you were on that show? You were
acting even before that? No, that was like my first
job ever in life. Yeah, and I think I was
like three and a half when I auditioned.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
Wow, yeah, three and a half. Were you not tiny?
I was that tiny?

Speaker 3 (14:00):
I was like turning nine. So wow, Yeah, that's amazing.
I mean it's amazing. But also I'm curious, like how
being on camera and like just being in front of
the camera and in that environment. Like how did that, how,
if anything, did that impact you? And like how you
showed up after nine, like when you were done with
the show, and like you're entering back into like not

(14:23):
real life because you're I'm sure you're still acting in auditioning,
but like it was it a hard transition getting back
into I think, yeah, it.

Speaker 4 (14:29):
Was weird, like preteen situation. It definitely was weird for me.
And then even just like the auditioning stage was weird too,
because you know what we just talked about, and then
also I don't know, I just remember this is terrible,
Like here I go saying some shit I probably shouldn't
be saying. I just used to audition against a lot
of white girls. So yes, like it was a lot

(14:50):
of stuff for Nickelodeon that I would go out for,
and it just it got to the point where it
was just like every excuse under the sun that why
I wasn't booking things or why I was getting so
close like I would audition for producers and stuff. So
acting kind of just became like not fun for me. Yeah,
at a certain time, and like I filmed pilots and
then they didn't go all the way and it was
just so many things happened that that transition, like from

(15:13):
my wife and kids. That was just like draining, low key.
So I took a break from acting and then I
you know, I got back into it once I turned
like nineteen, but I think energy wise and like how
I felt actually walking around, Like when I was a
little girl, I felt like, oh, I already know.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
What I'm gonna do when I get older. So I
kind of felt like everybody was a peon to me.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
And I know that well, I mean, if you get
it wrong, you get it roll so early and you
stick that show goes and goes and goes for five years.
You're like, this is my life.

Speaker 4 (15:42):
Bit just like anyways, I'm just like I know what
I'm doing when I get out of here with you
guys at lunch and whatever. You know, I'm just I thought,
you know, I was grown back then, So I feel
like a kid now. I say that all the time.
Now I felt more of like a girl, like in
a sense, just I'm in that era right now.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
But then I thought I was just I was grown.
So that's how I felt. So the in between between
nine and nineteen, you weren't acting at all.

Speaker 4 (16:05):
No, So, I mean I did a few things here
and there, So like I had booked a few pilots,
I'd done, you know, just a couple of things. I
did a lot of modeling as well, and then I
kind of just like after fifteen, I took that break
from like fifteen to nineteen just because my body had changed.
So then it started that become that became the excuse,
you know, like I started just developing, like you know,

(16:26):
I started.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
I won't get into the details, but you know, once
you start your period, your body just changes in ways,
you know.

Speaker 4 (16:32):
So I was still young, but I had like womanly features,
and I was tall, and I had like I was
a little kind of had weight on me, and I
think that that kind of hindered me as well when
I was auditioning. So I kind of just took a
break to like be a normal kid for it, be
a normal teenager for once.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
So yeah, high school was fun for me. Did you
go to school in La I did? Well?

Speaker 3 (16:51):
Yeah, I did somewhere like out here at La County.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
OK. Yeah, I think a lot of.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
People don't take into account like what like how being
in that type of environment, like being an actor as
a child and then like your body evolving and like
how that impact how that impacts a child's mental health,
because I know for me it did too, because I
started modeling when I was like six, and I was
acting all throughout that time, and like you're you're literally

(17:17):
like grow evolving and blooming in ways and like not
recognizing yourself, but then also having to show up in
front of the camera be judged. I remember like going
into like fittings and things not fitting me and feeling
so bad about myself.

Speaker 4 (17:31):
Seeing the other girls that were there, like no matter
what their skin color was, but you know, we just
always feel a little bit different than you know, the
white ones sometimes, so them us feeling that way already,
and then also not looking like them in our body
shapes and just feeling bigger and just uncomfortable.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 4 (17:50):
It was very interesting time, like booking a pilot for Nickelodeon,
filming it and just feeling like out of place, if
that makes sense because of things like that.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
How do you think you've worked on your body confidence
from being in front of the camera and kind of
growing up in front of the camera in that way.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (18:08):
I mean, the thing is is that when that was happening,
I didn't feel like anything. I wasn't doing anything other
than just existing and being myself, you know.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
But I don't know. I think that people made me
feel bad about.

Speaker 4 (18:18):
It, but I didn't internalize it as much. So I've
just always been really confident about my body no matter what.
Although when I was auditioning, I was comparing myself to
those girls, I still was confident in who I was,
Like I'm that girl period, you know. But there was
times where I don't know. I just right now, I'm
sitting here thinking about someone who was really really close

(18:39):
to me, who had the audacity to tell me like,
I will pay you like one hundred dollars every pound
you lose.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
What wow, yes, so that I can make it that.
I think I was like fifteen, Oh no, yes, so
it was just an adult obviously.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
Yeah, I was an adult.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
And I just felt like when they said that to me, I.

Speaker 4 (18:59):
Didn't really give a I was just like, fuck you, honestly,
because I knew that wasn't right, Like you shouldn't be
making anybody feel that way, no matter their age, and
just because you want me to get back out there
and start, you know, making get into this money or
whatever the case may be. So having my name out there,
it's like, right now, I'm gonna take the time to
just be a normal kid. So I think that's what
I did. I kind of did like a fuck you
to those people, and just I knew I was that girl, like, yeah,

(19:23):
I have.

Speaker 3 (19:23):
Hips, I'm cute like other people seem to like it.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
Like I was comfortable with myself.

Speaker 4 (19:28):
So I was in tripping like I may not fit
in this acting space right now, but maybe one day
I will. And you know, when I became a woman,
I felt like, okay, cool, I'm.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
I can stand in this body.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
No one's gonna be able to tell me, oh, well,
you can't play this role or you know, you have
to play these little kid roles anymore.

Speaker 4 (19:43):
Like I'm an adult now I can go for older
roles or you know, take me as I come though
as well, like this is me. Yeah, I've been so
many different shapes and sizes though. I feel like, do
you think.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
That people like tried to hold you to like this,
Like I don't know, Like like we've interviewed Jordan's sparks
before our Girls shout out to Jordan and shout out
to Jordan's who podcast. Check out her new podcast on
your media. And she was just expressing how like she's
been kind of pigeonholed in this like wholesome America's sweetheart
and she's a whole mom and obviously she's had she's

(20:14):
fucking yeah, yeah, you have to do that most times.
Like how like you know your audience wants to like
keep you on that box because that's something you've encountered.

Speaker 4 (20:25):
Well, absolutely, that was another thing. I feel like that
was another thing, a part of my rebellion stage. I
don't really feel like I was rebelling, but like looking
back now, I do. I see some of the things
that I used to post when I was nineteen or whatever.
I'm like, okay, like you were in your bag, my love,
like you were feeling yourself and you're like, you know, fucking.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
Fuck the world, fuck what.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
Everybody was just lose weight, do this.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
You're oh you're you're too black, You're or you're not
black enough, or oh no the white girl got or
whatever the case may be. Like it was just always
them trying to fit me, mold me into being able
to succeed in.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
What they wanted for me.

Speaker 4 (20:59):
But yeah, yeah, I do feel that way. I've been
speaking on it more and I know people are probably
irritated by it, but yeah, I don't want to be
in anybody's box anymore. I feel like I can be
whatever the fuck I want to be. Honestly, Yeah, you
can as I should.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
Yeah. I think every teenage, preteen adolescent goes through that transition, right,
especially as a woman, Like there's a there's literally a
rite of passage when you get a period. There's literally
like a time in your life. I don't feel like
a little girl, even when a lot of times you
don't know shit. Still right, we're still learning. But it's
like there's a coming of age that I feel like
our society doesn't really embrace or welcome, especially as Black girls.

(21:35):
It's always like, oh, you're too fast, you're being fast,
and like there's this adultifying and like sexualizing that happens
to I think like the teenage girl that that doesn't
really allow us to step fully into it, and it's confusing,
you know, and so like we're always like battling between
being innocent and also stepping into our sensuality as women,

(21:57):
and what that looks like. And we don't really have
cold cultures that embrace that. Whereas for men, they're like, yeah,
you know you're gonna get a you know what I mean,
Like they talk about like losing their virginity and you know,
like they're egged on in that way and get a
little papa hair or the middle of honor.

Speaker 5 (22:12):
Right.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
But for women and so for you to like have
to experience that, you know, kind of in the spotlight.
And also you got that role really young, and that's
what the world remembers you as like, but it's like
bitch time moves.

Speaker 4 (22:24):
Everybody just continuously sees me as like their little sister
or like you know, I'm there, they're my aunt or
what you know what I'm saying. And it's like I
get that because that's the role that I play. So
I try and like, you know, I respect every It
was annoying at the nineteen, like the sixteen tonight, I
was like I fucking hate like stop calling me Katie,
you know. But now at my grown age, I'm like,
I get it. I understand that that's that's just the

(22:45):
idea that you guys.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
Have of me.

Speaker 4 (22:46):
But I'm also like, please allow me the space to
like grow and like just be myself as well, because
I can't be Katie forever. It's like, that's that's a
lot of pressure. Oh, yes, I can only be Parker.
So I hate to disappoint you, but you know, so, Yeah,
it's definitely an interesting space. But I'm feeling more comfortable
to talk about it, you know, here with you guys

(23:06):
and just be like it is what it is. And
the more I talk about it, hopefully people maybe they'll
understand a little bit more and be like, oh, okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
Cool absolutely, And your mom right, I am a mom?

Speaker 3 (23:16):
Yeah, girl mom, I am a girl mom.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
How did your daughter she's four and so she were
in twenty six when you had her?

Speaker 3 (23:23):
I was twenty five. Yeah, I had just turned twenty five.
She'll be five in December.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Yeah, And how was your birth? Like? What was that
process like for you?

Speaker 3 (23:31):
I had a natural labor. I had her at a
birthding center and shout out to pure Births and go there.

Speaker 4 (23:39):
I love them so much. I had an amazing experience there.
It was fifteen hours of silence pretty much.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
That's what I wanted.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
I didn't want anything.

Speaker 4 (23:48):
I did like hypno birthing, which is like you hypnotize
yourself all this shit listen.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
It was COVID, so I had a lot of time on.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
My hands to just go with it. Really got a
lot like oh you know that I watched all the
videos fucking orgasmic birds, hit no birds, every birds.

Speaker 4 (24:05):
You can think, it's a lot, but it was fun,
like really having the time and the energy to be like, oh, well,
learn all of these things and have the option.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
You know. My mom was like, why the fuck are
you having your baby out of birthing center? Like she
just did not down to the day.

Speaker 4 (24:18):
She was just like, why are you doing You trying
to stress me out, mom, And I'm just like, girl,
it's happening. This is where I'm having my baby, like
this is what And it was during COVID, so it
was just it was a stressful time, but it was
It was a great experience.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
And yes, I did it in silence.

Speaker 4 (24:31):
I didn't use any of the hypno birthing sounds music
that I paid all this money for.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
I didn't think. I didn't know.

Speaker 4 (24:37):
I didn't listen to the playlist that I created, you know,
the Sevie Wonder and the Amy. There was nothing nothing, No, Jeneicho,
there was nothing.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
Why did you get in that? Baby? It was a
real fash to me, and I'm gonna just sit right
here and just get through this.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
But it was it was amazing, and I just remember
it was raining and I just felt like the angels
were crying. My baby was being born, and it was
just like, yeah, I don't know it. It was a good time.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
It's a good time. It's beautiful. Yeah. I think.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
I think so often people don't feel empowered in their
birthing process, and whenever I hear stories like that, it
makes me so happy because I don't.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
I didn't really feel empowered in it.

Speaker 3 (25:14):
But I know that if I now, if I ever
had a child, I'm so much more equipped and ready
to use my voice. I think before I was like
really just scared, Like they make pregnancies seem like this
scary thing. And it's like my mom always says, which
is funny because she was totally not for me having
a natural like a giving birth at home, but she's

(25:37):
always says to me, like being pregnant as a sign
of health, that your body is like functioning in its
highest regard, and like not to not to disregard women
that are struggling having babies. But it is, it is,
and it's like it and it should be. It should
be revered as this beautiful, powerful ride of passage, and
the mother should should lead the experience the way that

(25:58):
she wants, uninter.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
Yes in a cooward like I just did that. The
fuck I just brought a whole human in. Yeah, And
so often that's why I really appreciate you saying you
dove into the videos, you dove into the books. A
lot of people don't, and then they get to the day, they're.

Speaker 4 (26:12):
Like, fuck, being at the hospital alone, even going when
you're sick is scary, Like you know what, It's just
it's just seems like a very scary place sometimes, and
I just I prefer I'm like our ancestors were in
the woods, like doing I had to tell my mom
this several times. I'm just like, my love, please stop
talking to me about this, because I know my body
when it's time, it's gonna know what.

Speaker 3 (26:33):
To do, Like this is what we do. It's gonna
be okay. It's gonna hurt, but it's gonna be okay.
But I think, yeah, we all should have the right
to decide how we want our birth to go, our
labor to go and get a doula and like I said,
pure births or a birthing center something like that, just
because they advocate for us and it's like a woman
based space and they just you know, they love on

(26:55):
you in that time. It's supposed to be a beautiful time.
It shouldn't have been a scary one. I know, unfortunately
my experience, but I'm you know, I'm grateful for it
because I had to learn. I had to learn to
use my voice. I had to learn to advocate for myself.
And I think it's important for women listening with you're
pregnant right now and you're going through that moment right now,
and you've now betrayed your initial uh plan because of

(27:18):
other people. Bitch, go back, go back and revisit the plan.
Because if I could do it over again, I would
have ignored everybody, including my baby daddy, and did what
I know, what I knew my body could do. Because
I ended up having a sea section, which is not
what I wanted, you know, And so I don't know
one day, one day soon ish, and you know, they
they have the audocity to tell women let me not

(27:39):
say anything untrue. But what I've heard is that they.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
Tell you if you have a sea section, you can't.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
It's a lot true.

Speaker 4 (27:48):
It's why I think you educate these women and do
your research. Yeah, really, really do your research and yeah,
just just in your body.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
Yeah yeah. Is it crazy that you try to tell
you some shit that you'd like? Bitch? How are you
gonna tell me what I could do? It is doable? Yeah,
that's crazy. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
So we have a segment on our show called bad
Choice of the Week. Do you have you made any
bad choices this week?

Speaker 2 (28:07):
Parker?

Speaker 5 (28:09):
Not a bad mom, but a bad mom?

Speaker 2 (28:12):
So good have I made any? Oh? Oh?

Speaker 3 (28:22):
I kind of made a bad choice today. I guess
maybe this week has been kind of boring. I'm sorry
it really has. Or this month?

Speaker 2 (28:30):
This month?

Speaker 3 (28:31):
Okay, so a bad choice, I'll could be good, but
you know fun did good?

Speaker 5 (28:35):
Right?

Speaker 2 (28:35):
Did it end up being good?

Speaker 1 (28:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (28:36):
I mean because bad as relative.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
I mean even us being called good mom's bad choices
like I smoke weed.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
Some people would say that's bad. I think that's great.

Speaker 4 (28:47):
Okay, I'm gonna give you two, so I'll give you
one this week. So and I'll give you one this month.
So I my baby ditch school today. So she wasn't
feeling good these past couple of days. But this morning
I was just feeling kind of selfish and I just
was tired and I wanted to just love on my
girl this morning.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
So no school.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
We did did cheese today for the first time because
she just started TK, so it's like school.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
Yeah, you know it's school.

Speaker 4 (29:11):
But it's not really school. They're probably just there playing
with sand all damn day. But yeah, we did in
school yesterday.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
And my daughter is fully in fifth grade, so let
me tell you it doesn't end in TK.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
I know it was raining.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
It was the first day of rain in LA, and
she did. She woke up like coughing, and I was like,
are you sick? Seems like sick, just like I don't
feel well. She was like, you were doing the most.
I was like, you ain't got to do all it.
You're not doing like it's fine. You don't have to
put on a rainy days out the best though. Yeah,
it was okay for this month. Okay, so, like you said,

(29:45):
some people probably view it as bad. I've gotten a
lot of shit for this interview that I did recently,
But I feel like, honestly, it lifted a weight off
of my shoulders. Like a lot of the things that
I did speak on in the interview, I feel.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
Like I just I'm free.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
I don't know how to explain it, and it's like
maybe me rebelling. Some people may view as like, girl,
you're you're.

Speaker 4 (30:05):
Doing too much, or you're revealing too much, or whatever
the case, you know, because I've heard so many things.
But yeah, so some people think it was a bad choice,
and I was kind of feeling bad about it too.
I was having Hella anxiety about that interview coming out
for some reason, but once it came.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
Out, I just feel free and lighter.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
The interview with Cam oh oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
Yeah, so that was like I felt like it was
a bad choice.

Speaker 4 (30:28):
Even my therapist. I was about to tell you, guys.
I talked to my therapist and she was.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
Like I would have told you before, like absolutely not
not go on there now. Your therapist warning you this
is not going for her mental health. She's not coming.
I don't care how many downloads they get.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
No, literally, she's my girl, though. She keeps it fucking
real with me, Like I found literally the best therapist
shout out to you, even when say your names, just kidding.
What was freeing about it?

Speaker 4 (30:59):
Just getting so much shit off of my chest and like,
honestly just even I just okay. So I feel bad
talking about my experiences sometimes because they involve other people,
and I don't want to like bash anybody or hurt
anybody with my words or just by telling my truth.
My truth may hurt others, you know, But it was
freeing for me to reveal some of the things that

(31:21):
I've been going through, where some of the things that
bother me, even people putting me in a box like
things like that. It's like, sometimes I may have something
to say about even a fucking movie set that I've
been on. I may want to come sit down with
you guys and be like, what the fuck this happened?
And this and then that may bother somebody, but like
this is my life too, and I have to.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Move forward, Yes, I have to moving forward.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
So yeah, and I think that's like, of course there's
going to be people that are haters because they're just lonely,
sad people. But there's a lot of people that I'm
not speaking for you because I don't know if this
is your experience, I know that for us, like people.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
Need to hear that shit.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
Like there's a lot of people that you know, see
you or see you know, people that are in the
spotlight and think that they're living like these perfect lives
or that like, oh that happened to them, But they're rich,
so it doesn't matter. Everything's fine, you know, And it's
like no, And we're even seeing that like play out
with like Ayisha Curry talking about her fucking marriage and
her you know, aspirations for more and like everyone up

(32:18):
in arms.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Like how dare she can't? How dare she be a
great fun? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (32:25):
I was just literally having this conversation with somebody like
she just needs to be grateful.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
Like it's just like, bitch can't have other other feelings.

Speaker 4 (32:31):
She has to have an identity outside of her husband
as well though, and her kids.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
Is like we all do. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
I think that men and women would love women to
shut the fuck up and just like take take it and.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
These crumbs I'm giving you, bitch and shut up. Yeah,
clean the kitchen.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
But you know, it takes women that are brave and
bold to push the needle and move society forward in
a better positive way because us historically being silent hasn't
worked so well, and so I'm really proud of you
for being able to feel confident enough to speak your truth,
especially on a platform like Cam's, which I feel is
a bit low vibrational in my opinion, don't think he's

(33:12):
the most sharpest tool in the shed. And still and
feel and feel like a sense of relief even still,
So that's that's a bad choice.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
That went good?

Speaker 3 (33:24):
Yeah, exactly, Yeah, it turned out. I'm okay.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
It's an invitation that like the things that scare you
are often the things that free you, you know, like
stepping into those you said that today the things that
frighten you is like, damn, maybe if it scares me,
it's something I need to do, just to prove that
I know that I can, you know, because, like you said,
especially as black women, it's a big deal for us
to be able to speak our minds and our truths,
and it's important or else the narrative will always be
of from the patriarchy perspective, and we all know how

(33:50):
fucking damaging that is. Yeah, it's true, though, I think
that the patriarchy prefers women that just shut the fuck
up and take what they can get and someone like
Steph Curry, who's apparently everybody all the men went a
psyc is dick because they can't just like handle the
wife just saying it wasn't even a criticism, It was
just an honest statements, like why does everything have to

(34:12):
be in relation to this relationship? And like I'm going
to show individually, yes I have children and yes I'm
a wife. And she spoke really well, she.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
Spoke beautifully about him on the episode. It was just
this one clipped moment and that they ran with what
was it?

Speaker 2 (34:28):
I didn't I don't I didn't see. Oh.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
She was just basically saying, how you know, before before
marriage and kids, like she had dreams of being like
a corporate girly or like was that really said? Or
like she had big dreams of like having her own
career and like, you know, not being like a mom
at twenty two. And you know, although she doesn't regret

(34:49):
her children or her marriage, like you know, there's things
that her husband just doesn't understand in regards to like
the kind of like this this sadness that I think
a lot of women feel like they've missed out on
something because you do you do miss out on things
when you're when you're a mom, like.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
Especially a young asthma.

Speaker 3 (35:09):
Yeah, and like you can't get that time back, you know.
And I'm obviously like God puts you on the path
and whatever path you're supposed to be on. And like
I'm sure when she met Steph and married him, she
didn't know he was going to be like what he
what he is and his whole career was going to
basically become her identity.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
In some capacity.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
Like there's no and that's why women are like be grateful.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
And it's like bitch, Like she didn't even know this.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
Was going to be the trajectory of her fucking life.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
Like and no one said.

Speaker 4 (35:34):
She's not grateful, though, I think she's just allowed to.
Like two things can be true at one time, you know,
like Okay, I love my life. I'm so glad that
I'm here, but I also look back and I'm like, damn,
I wish I did this, Like that's okay to feel
that way.

Speaker 3 (35:47):
The men are so I was like going back and
forth with this guy that I know in my DMS,
and I was just like shut up. He's like I know, Steve,
I'm like, niggad, no, you don't and she's she's God,
she's so annoying in person. I'm like, you could swear
she said she's a whore, no annoying person.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
People swear that you're annoying for being in my dams
talking about a whole ass woman.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
You know, girls like did you see her when she
was on the reel or some shit, and like some
fine guy came out and she like pretends like she
was gonna take her wedding ring off.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
I'm like, it's a fucking jumb Like, imagine how many
business he's probably fucked. That's what I'm saying. Like, we
don't know this man's we don't know that. But I'm
just saying from the fucking NBA roster, I'm just gonna
take a wild fucking guess here. I mean ninety percent
of them, I'm sure.

Speaker 3 (36:29):
Ninety nine he done slipped up at least once or twice. Okay,
nobody nobody's perfect career, that's a long perfay and groupies
are vicious, That's what I'm saying. Like nobody is perfect,
Like their relationship isn't perfect. I'm sure there's been ups
and downs, and in those downs, perhaps I mean, men
are weak. So I'm just saying I'm not saying I
know stuff because I don't. But I'm just saying, like,

(36:49):
we don't know these people's marriage, and like people just
assume because he just looks like a stand up guy
and he's there for her, his kids and his wife
that there's been no breaks in the relationship.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
It's just I don't know people. It's so crazy. People
give men so much more grace than they give women.
Yes they do.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
And actually I was having this argument last night with
she Can, but I was too tired because he always
wants to like me to pull out facts and I
was like, I don't got time to pull out facts,
and he was we were talking about Meg the Stallion
and Tory lanez and basically he's like, you know, Tory
Lane's about to come out of jail because Meg lied.
And I was like, did she lie?

Speaker 2 (37:25):
We're still on talking about.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
Argument?

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Is he really coming out? Are we still talking.

Speaker 3 (37:30):
About Meg lying?

Speaker 2 (37:31):
I'm like what?

Speaker 3 (37:32):
And he was acting like this was news like fresh,
and I'm like I'm looking on my algorithm like did
something pounce it? And and I was like, well, I
was like, well, if it is true that she lied.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
I'm like, her career is going to be over.

Speaker 3 (37:44):
And I was like, and it's or she's gonna have
a really hard time because women are not given the
same grace. Women are not allowed to lie, women aren't
allowed to like beat people up and come out of
jail and be have a new career. And he was like,
and I was like, did He's gonna come out of
jail and he's still going to have a career, guarantee you.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
I like, I just don't.

Speaker 3 (38:04):
The way that men glaze over ship because of whoever
their idol is or And I'm not saying like Diddy
hasn't done things for the community, but that's what they're
gonna lead with.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
He's done things for the community.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
He's a legend.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
His son King.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
Comes reading Bible versus to his girlfriend on Instagram. I
swear to God, yesterday I was like, Oh, the branding,
they're really they're going in. They're starting the pr machine,
the fucking rehabilitation of Diddy, like.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
And I was like, yeah, women don't get that grace.

Speaker 3 (38:36):
And he was like who and what women in history
have fucked up and then not been able to come back.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
And I was like, they're dragging Cassie. I'm like Monica Winsky,
I don't know what. I couldn't think of anyone. And
I was so annoyed because I.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
Was like, it's true, or just know it to be true,
and he's like you and you're just no to be true,
and I'm like, no, it is, well, you don't even
have to think of that the first thing that popped
up with.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
It's so non existent. But we can go down the
list of niggas who hit a bitch in a face
and still in my career, like Tyson Chris Brown, fucking
didd He's gonna come out and have SI rock too.
There's Hella Nick Hella niggas.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
That aggravates Hella, niggas who we've seen on video knock
a bitch out Donald Trump, and I still.

Speaker 4 (39:27):
Give motherfuckers a platform to just come and like continue
to spread their nonsenses.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
Oh it's just a punch, And yeah, women are often disposable,
especially if we have fucked up publicly, and especially if
we sucked up bad publicly, like there's.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
No coming back usually.

Speaker 3 (39:43):
So I was just like, damn, like I couldn't believe
he was asking me to prove this shues. I mean
God was like, do you are you? Are we on
the same page.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
Especially black women? You see white women, maybe white women
have a different privilege, Like I've seen bit Demie Lovato
I think was on Heroin four years ago. Then she
then she was she was like the vm a host.
I don't know how to do it. We can't barely
talk about black women, cannot go to rehab to talk
about doing ecstasy five years ago. We're like the Molly

(40:16):
nobody say that again, like we can only we can't
even smoke weed.

Speaker 3 (40:19):
You know, right now, I'm about to like this thame.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
You can't hate that ship. It's true though, It's true. Like,
and you know what I think about when I think
about when I think about this concept, Damn, I hi
already almost forgot.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
Oh okay, oh God, what am I doing?

Speaker 2 (40:43):
You know what I think about when I think about
the way that they villainize women, I think about racism.
You know, you think about, like why do they Why
does the globally everybody hate black people so much, even
though we're obviously the taste makers, the salt of the earth,
We're the oldest human being, we birthed all you sons.
It's because they don't want us to know our power.

(41:04):
Same thing for women. Why have they suppressed us? Why
have they made every religion patriarchal, Even women can't be
pastors and priests? Like, what the fuck is this shit?
When we are the divine being? Life literally comes between
our fucking portal of our legs. Nigga, use drop off
some sperm, hopefully I come, and then I do the

(41:26):
rest of the work. I grow, I nurture from my bosom. Bitch.
I birthed you, your mama birth do. Every party here
came through a vagina. There's only one reason that they
would be villainizing and confusing us as much as they are,
just like they confused black people. It's because you know
the power that we have, and if we woke the
fuck up the way we would witchcraft your fucking ass.

(41:48):
As a matter of fact, on Halloween, all the women
of the world, all the witches womb up, and it's
just like at one eleven, let's have a prayer to
get Trump out of office.

Speaker 3 (41:57):
Oh my god, we're.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
Gonna link our pussies up at one eleven on Halloween. Okay,
ten thirty one, which is link up in your brains,
in your mind, energetically and just be like, get the
fuck on office, the fucking office. World peace, world peace,
world peace, Get chump on office.

Speaker 3 (42:13):
Well, not just him, get everyone in his office out
of office, because after if he's.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
Gone, it's just JD. Vance is coming out.

Speaker 3 (42:20):
The way his fucking soulless blue eyes. Look at me
through those through the screen.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
I'm darker. I'm like, you're demonic.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
Yeah, you're it's giving me darkness.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
It's darkness in there. Yeah. So you have to think
when the world is like when there's socially we've been
conditioned to hate one particular type of person, you gotta
start to wonder why, yeah, what are you trying to
confuse me about, bitch, Because we all know a lot
of this is a facade, and it's like you have
to come back to yourself. And intuitively we know, like

(42:50):
we get fucked up when we get digmatized and we
let the wrong dick come net in us and then
it really confuses our chemical balance. But mostly when we
support each other, we love each other. When we love
ourselves and we were like aligned with people on the
same shit, we're usually in like we're usually we're powerful
beings and we can manifest deeply, just like we manifest people.
But when like in a world I was just looking.

(43:10):
We have a post up right now from weeks ago, months.

Speaker 3 (43:14):
Ago about Corin Stephans saying people are still comment oh
my god.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
I wake up and I have like forty comments. I
know nothing. I know nothing about me, this is all.
And she's like, marry the slut, marry the whore because
men are afraid to marry the whore. And I think
it's a very clear statement.

Speaker 4 (43:31):
Because like horse, they do, because even when you are
the good girl, they still go out and cheat on
you with the whore.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
So I will marry her.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
And I think that people get.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
Confused about what the whore is, you know, because all
I could I'm just going to read back five of
the comments because there's five comments, five hundred times three
h fo. She's gonna be sleeping with the neighbor when
you come home. You can't trust no, how ho can't
raise your kids. Horror, horror, horror. And I'm like they
just like the whole point went over their head is
that like women are going to be embody. Both women

(44:04):
will suck a dick and raise the kid, because that's
how we got the kid. And I think when you
remove this whole side of it and then you go
immediately to we're promiscuous, we fuck everybody ran through, we're
not trustworthy, you're skipping the whole point is that, no,
we're sexual beings and respect us as such. You come
to us to put your dick in us all the time,
and that's fine.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
Well, the funny part about it is is that like
a lot of the women that are deemed promiscuous is
because they've been violated by this by a man. And
then it's the same men in the comments saying there's
some fluts, there's some whores, and it's like, well, your
brother did this, like you you know, your your people
did this shit. And it's like, I just feel like
when we're in such like separateness by design and because

(44:49):
of it, now we see where the world is at
and like you said, like they're gonna they want they're
gonna marry the good girl and still go fuck the
hores like they that's what happened once a little everybody, Right,
So why why don't you just find a woman that
can embody both?

Speaker 2 (45:05):
You know, why does it matter?

Speaker 4 (45:06):
Because they get to sleep around and do whatever the
fuck they want apparently like this, I just I can't
deal with I just can't. I can't deal with it,
with the hypocrisy. I've like, just I'm bowing out. Honestly,
I'm over at all. I stopped responding. I stop responding
to the comments. I was like, men hate women.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
I see, and I understand they think all themen are
three or four is there's deep, deep trust wounds with
with with men to women in general. And I'm just like,
I don't know where we're gonna I don't know how
we're gonna fix this. But there's like a huge population
of men that literally hate women, women who are existing
in their totality, and in women too, there's women who

(45:41):
hate women that are existing their totality because they haven't
been able to and it's been so like guilted and
shamed and over like women just have been sexualized, like
that's the only thing that we could do. We could
either be whorees or be mothers.

Speaker 3 (45:53):
Yeah, I want you to This morning, someone called me
right in the comments because actually that clip I was
showing you Sarah font To not I don't remember, I
don't ever remember how to say her name. And she
was you know, debating around like women that are ran
through and this and being sexually liberated blah blah blah.
And I just said that there's a difference between being

(46:14):
promiscuous and sexually liberated.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
And this guy was like, just say, you're a hoe,
and I was like, well, that's what they reduced you to.

Speaker 3 (46:20):
But I'm like, so me, even commenting on this automatically
makes me a hoe.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
Okay, well it reminds me of that. On that same
episode with Cam, I didn't even get to that point.
I just saw the clip about him at him saying
every girl he's ever been with, he asked her list,
and that shit is ridiculous, stupid, and it's so childish.

Speaker 4 (46:42):
I think it's quite disgusting. I think it's childish. Is
held even like how many partners have you slept with?
It's just it's a lot because we can all just lie.
We can come up with whatever number we want. They're
not gonna believe us anyway.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
It's relative to whom, at what age? What is a
zero to three per year? I just what is it?
Am I home ownership? Are we checking my credit? Like
at the fax? Yeah? Is it all facts or fax?
But like, according to who like, if you're an athlete,
then the right number is like below below ten if
like as a woman, but like, yeah, an athlete is

(47:15):
sucking at least like.

Speaker 3 (47:15):
One thousand world thousands for real, they you would be
I think I just can't even fast. We're going to
think about you. Actually, you don't respect your body. If
you could put your dick in a thousand, You're gonna
talk to me about sleeping with twenty men.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
And the will and they will adamally and they call
you a three year foul right after it. I just
that's it.

Speaker 3 (47:39):
You're over overly using it.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
Now you're three about about Oh, I'm trying to keep
up with the kids, don't wait, it's hard.

Speaker 3 (47:48):
I try to. I'm like, I don't what is it?

Speaker 2 (47:50):
This is this? What are we doing? Wait? When I
was talking about my wedding dress, we were doing we
were doing a toast. I was like, oh, let's do
the boomerang, and Nietzsha our friend goes, you're going to
age us. I was like, what do you mean. She's like,
they're not doing boomerangs anymore. I'm like, really, the boomerangs
out She's like no, I don't say loul and then
loll And then she she asked, I never liked what
you said little I said, Lol.

Speaker 3 (48:11):
She asked, someone saying loversation like the ll the conversation
is insane.

Speaker 4 (48:18):
I say loll all after every text, I sin it's
Nothing's funny, they.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
Said, They said, you don't say loll anymore. And then
we asked the lady helping us, who was twenty nine,
and this is what Nishia said, how are your twenty nine?
She's like, oh, you're You're kind of on the line.

Speaker 3 (48:32):
Yeah, what's wrong with our friends?

Speaker 2 (48:34):
I'm never marry I am.

Speaker 3 (48:36):
I'm part of the millennial group. I just turned thirty
this year. I've seen the gen z ers want to
be millennials really bad. That says what I'm seeing. I'm
seeing this on the internet. Say you guys don't want
to identify with your generation.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
A little better over here.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
Right, Millonials, they're like the last of the fucking weekends
witch Like millennial.

Speaker 4 (48:57):
Birthday August eighteen, Okay, just you just turned thirty, Yeah,
happy birthday. But I always kicked to like my sister
out there, like I'm always with older people.

Speaker 3 (49:05):
So it's like, wait, is that Leo or yeah? Like
le is that like Leo Vergo cuspy?

Speaker 4 (49:12):
I am, Yeah, I was supposed to be a virgo,
but I God save you.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
I'm just kidding.

Speaker 3 (49:18):
I love Burgos. Don't be offended, guys, Relax my dad.
I hate relationship with them.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
I really do. Really. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:25):
Yeah, they're a bit like they're just immovable in ways,
like they're just they won't change their minded personal Yeah,
it's it's a fixed signs.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
It shows a lot and that was what I see.

Speaker 3 (49:39):
But I will also say, like the virgos that I've
met are also like so giving, like they'll give you
the shirt off their back. They're very philanthropic and is
that the word? And yeah, I've seen like there's a
lot of big they're big hearted, but they don't always
show that.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
Do you have a affirmation for us?

Speaker 4 (50:00):
I do, And it goes right along with all of
this because I feel like my affirmation that I tell
myself consistently is like good mom, first, bad bitch immediately after.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
Oh my god, I have a cup that says that, ye,
good mom, first, bad bitch, immediately after, immediately, right away,
right away.

Speaker 3 (50:21):
How do you think motherhood has so far? Because you're
five years in I always think like I'm only an
eight year old mom and only a five year old mom, Like,
how do you think motherhood has like shaped the woman
that you're becoming?

Speaker 2 (50:33):
Now? Oh, I just really have to be.

Speaker 3 (50:41):
I want to be more confident. I want to stand
Tinto's down on my word. I want to show up,
of course, as my best possible self, but obviously that's
impossible to do.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
That every day three sixty five.

Speaker 4 (50:57):
You know, I have my day, so I allow her
to see that as well. But just having confidence and
sticking up for myself more, that's what it's showed me,
or that's what it's teaching me right now, because it's
like I want to instill that in her as well.
I want her to always use her voice. I want
her to let somebody know when she feels wronged.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
Or whatever the case may be.

Speaker 4 (51:17):
So I want to stand tintoes down on my word
and how I'm feeling. So that's what it's done for me,
be way more confident and just me.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
I think all women can take that advice and invite
that into their lives because I think we're all kind
of in ways conditioned to be people pleasers, yes, and
to be delicate about other people's feelings, and a lot
of it comes with the fact that we have to
protect ourselves, that we're carrying like you know, a billion
dollars worth of pussy on us all day every day,
and that you have to like tread lightly and just

(51:47):
like you know, like we're talking about being on a
male led show and certain conversations coming up and having
to feel polite and say the right thing and ha
ha ha and laugh and have ba enter even when
you are feeling uncomfortable, because the wrong move can make
you can go it could go totally south, and we've
all seen it happen and then put in situations and

(52:08):
it's just like there's this like game that we have
to play, this dance that we have to do, and
so like as you come into yourself at thirty, like
that's such like we started this when we were like thirty,
and we have like over three hundred and fifty episodes
of literally just growth, crying, growth, Oh, no, fuck up,
like this just a lot of cycles of the same thing.

(52:28):
And I'm just telling you, like to remind you and
people listening, it's like you're gonna get this lesson so
many times, yes, And it's gonna get better and more refined.
You're gonna feel more confident, and it's gonna it's gonna
like grow and grow, and you're like, fuck, I can't
even shut the fuck up. I gotta say something like
nigga fucking fucking.

Speaker 3 (52:47):
But it takes time and then you might come back
for a seconds check growth quick.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
Okay, you know. And it's like you as your mother,
your child, you will you will find yourself mother and
yourself yes, and becoming you know, more confident. And it's like,
I just want you to know you're doing a wonderful job.
You're speaking your truth. There's nothing more powerful than that.
And and the more you say that out loud, the
more you'll manifest that for you. You'll call that energy in.
And like I said, every time you're in a situation

(53:14):
where should speak up for yourself, something in your throats
and you be like, ah, you know, like no, so
I And I've resonated with that because there's times I
let shit slide and I do it all the time
and and I tend to beat myself up more because
I'm older and I should know better, and I thought
I've been through this lesson. But it's like that's the
divine way of like keeping you strong. It's like you're
going to go through the lesson over and over and

(53:35):
over and over again, and you'll refine it and just
like being gentle with yourself along the way too, because
you know, I did some shit the other day and
I was like I knew I should have thought of
like I knew that I was on the edge about it,
and instead of just saying like let me not, I
did it anyway, And then I had to deal with
those internal feelings about that. And there's just like there's
always there's always test, yeah, you know, and like it

(53:57):
no matter how old be get, we're gonna still have test.
It's like should I be polite or should I cuss
this bitch out right now? And like you know, and
we gotta. It's just an interesting existing as a woman
and a young woman and a woman who's like self
actualized and coming into themselves and confident and honest. How
honest should I be? Should I smoke the wead on't camera?
Should I say what I did last weekend? Like what

(54:17):
about the threesome? Is that too much? Like you know
what I mean?

Speaker 3 (54:20):
Well, on top of like I'm sure that you've also
had to be careful. People have been like, you can't
say that, you can't say that you're on a network,
You've been on a neckerwork.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
Yeah, you're Katie.

Speaker 4 (54:30):
I didn't want me to just see three year old
and I'm just like my love, Like then I'm like
a whole different person, Like I can't be three forever.

Speaker 3 (54:39):
I have to you know. Yeah, but motherhood will like
it does it like births this new sense of audacity
and where you're just like fuck it and you're still
that person, like you're gonna still work through the parts
of you that are that's that's people pleasing and struggling
with boundaries, but like you have this other like factor
involved now and it's not like even when I'm fucking up,

(55:01):
I'm thinking about my kid, I'm not all the time,
like I'm just living and then I'm like like maybe
two years later, I'm like, oh shit that you know.
But but but that's not with every situation. There still
is there's still like she's still present. But at the
end of the day, like you have to when you're
a mom, like you are like you are someone's like

(55:22):
superhero in some capacity, and that is a big pressure,
and we do put that on ourselves. But I think
that there is like beauty in not necessarily rejecting that
that idea, because I know that like the superhero cape,
this concept of women putting on their superhero cape is
is negative and there are negative parts of it, but
there's also like a beauty in it and like a

(55:44):
rising to the occasion that is invited in when you
decide to go through this ride of passage of motherhood.
And I was just thinking about audacity, and I was
thinking about you starting your music career, yes, and like
just the boldness that that because people have viewed you
a certain way and people are gonna judge and they're

(56:04):
gonna say things. And I'm curious, you think like being
a mom kind of has maybe even like projected you
into this space. You're like, fuck it, whatevers.

Speaker 4 (56:14):
Yes, okay, so it's motherhood of course. Okay, I'm not
gonna lie to you guys, because there were some times
when I was a.

Speaker 3 (56:20):
New mother, like it was it was, I felt like dark.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
Overwhelmed im right.

Speaker 4 (56:27):
Now, not even I thought I felt very confident, like
being doing the mothering, but I didn't know who Perker
was anymore.

Speaker 3 (56:35):
For a minute, like I lost her for a second.

Speaker 4 (56:37):
I was like what the fuck, Like I didn't know
how to be Like that's why now that really is
my affirmation because it's like, no, I'm a good mom,
but I am a bad bitch immediately after, like this
is my life. I did choose this life, this bad
bitch life chose me, and I'm just gonna have to
keep on in it like and I mean, yeah, so
and being a bad bitch is how I pay my
bills at the end of the day, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (56:57):
So it's like what, so what am I going to do?
Like crumble and I don't know, just now become this
just mom, Like no, I had to get back to
feeling like this and feeling confidence so motherhood.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
Yes, it made me.

Speaker 4 (57:11):
It made me have to go through that journey back
to confidence now, like back to this now. But also
turning thirty was like a really big thing for me
because you know, it's just always a milestone for us,
Like I was just.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
Oh, thirty sadder in return.

Speaker 4 (57:27):
So I really that was what music was for me,
Like it was really a gift to myself because it's
something that I've wanted to do for such a long time,
and I was just like.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
I'm turning thirty, like I want to.

Speaker 4 (57:37):
I want to pour into myself and I want to
chase my dreams, like things that I know that I've
been passionate about that I haven't had the chance to.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
I want to actually, you know, right, go for it.

Speaker 3 (57:47):
What artists would you say and have inspired you? And
like your sound.

Speaker 2 (57:51):
Goodness inspired my sound.

Speaker 4 (57:53):
It's crazy because I still feel like I'm figuring out
my sound, but artists that have inspired me, I'm all
over the place, Like I of Amy Winehouse, I love
Britney Spears, I love like I'm really into pop, so
I try and I feel like my music is like
alternative pop because there's many different vibes. Honestly, on my EP,
there will be a lot of different vibes, Like I
even have a kind.

Speaker 3 (58:13):
Of like Jamaican type vibe. Say that I don't know
why I was on your retreat. Yeah, at your retreat,
you have the retreat. I honestly would love I would
love to. That sounds amazing, your sister, Yeah, I would.

Speaker 4 (58:31):
We love Jamaica. We all love Jamaica, So yeah, that
may have to be a thing.

Speaker 3 (58:35):
But you know, you just said something that stuck out
to me, said that you're still figuring out your sound,
And I love that you're honest about that, because I
think most people feel like they have to have everything
figured out before they can put anything out, and I
think that that that exact thing is what stops so
many people from like actualizing any of their dreams, and

(58:56):
especially for someone that's already like you've already gained a
lot of success in your life, and so people have
this expectation that you're going to show up as not
just Katie, but like seasoned already and whatever it is
that you're.

Speaker 4 (59:09):
Choosing to Crispin. Yeah, no, that's not what this is
for me. And I'm sure my manager is out there
right now like, oh my god. But this is more
of like a fun This is a fulfillment moment for
me and less about anybody else. So I'm just like,
I don't give a fuck who likes it doesn't like it. Like,
if somebody does like it, I thank you so much.
That makes me so happy, Like I found one person

(59:30):
who's rocking with me. But this is really like a
dream for me and something that I feel like I
have to do for myself. And it's gotten me into
some shit. Like things are obviously getting bigger and it's
gotten more serious. But at the beginning this was just
more of like a personal dream that I felt.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
Like I have to do. That's dorible.

Speaker 3 (59:49):
I hope that you're able to keep that same feeling
around it and just yeah, not let people soule in
the pure experience.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
Yeah, like you don't have to be prints the first time. Yeah,
album everyone, I think even without being an artist, like
a music artist, everyone's finding their sound.

Speaker 3 (01:00:10):
Yeah, Like, how do.

Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
I show up in the world? What is what is like?
What are the colors that I paint with? What is like?
What is my mature contribution? Yeah? How are you creating?
And it changes and it shifts and people can paint
with a lot of different colors, you know, you can
your sound can be like this and this and this
and this, because we all have different talents and we
all deserve the you know, like the space to imagine
and a lot of us like lose that as in childhood.

(01:00:32):
And I think that's the gift of being parents too,
is that you get to see your kid just play
and not give a fuck and wear those boots with
that shirt that doesn't match at all, but whatever you
love it, I like it, or where your Superman outfit
and whatever you let them do it, And like we
lose that spark. And I think, like, well, me and
Erica talk about this a lot in the retreats and
just in general in our relationship, and a lot of
like Good Moms was built on playfulness. We played together,

(01:00:54):
you know, we were like we just reimagined and we
were just having fun and saying like, fuck which you
think I'm supposed to be doing. I know I'm a
good mom. I'm gonna have fun. And then we produce
this thing that you know, we've created this baby that's
like sprouted all these other things. A book, a retreat
and like we've met so many amazing women and got
to sit down and sit and like just hear everybody's
stories and smoke weed and like and connect and connect

(01:01:18):
and just from playing giving ourselves the permission to play
and to be honest and authentic. And I think like
that's really the key. When you give yourself permission to
play and to find your sound. Eventually you land on
something and where it resonates, it will, and where it
doesn't it doesn't. You find your people. You find your people. Yeah,
you find your tribe.

Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
End of story, Parker, I want to play a game
with you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
Okay, I love a good game. Wait, maybe you should
hit the joint first. Excuse you a little bit. Remember
when you're little, they.

Speaker 3 (01:01:50):
Like they like turn you around a bunch of the
equivalent to like smoking ahead of something and then being
a question the same exact thing.

Speaker 4 (01:01:59):
Okay, so you guys have been smoking your backwards, but
you have your pre rolls.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
I have weed. I have weed to shell.

Speaker 3 (01:02:05):
Yeah, because this is so much worse, sad, I don't
even I don't do pre rolls.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
I'm sorry. You like blunts.

Speaker 3 (01:02:11):
I am a blunt aholic. Have what kind of blends
are you smoking?

Speaker 4 (01:02:14):
I've been trying to just do grab a, but the
backwards had me in a chokehold for like two years.

Speaker 3 (01:02:21):
Yes, we have real bad, full amount of too. I
like with them having pretty thing. No, I'm okay, it's pointless.
It's what I smoke before I came though, but it's
I was already confused earlier.

Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
Confusion.

Speaker 3 (01:02:44):
Okay, So trigger is the game, and I'm just going
to say a word, and you just say the first
thing that comes to your mind.

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
Don't overthink it. Just the first thing. Okay mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (01:02:56):
Trigger with parka m canna, posy, bad habits smoking. What
because I'm a crackhead, like like you're a walking contradiction.
What do you mean because that has a whole conversation. No,
I think I just I have a problem.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
You heard it here first, I can out kind of
has a problem. You're a smoker. If there's smoke, you smoke.
That's like, that's that's well, we're rappers. It's the rapper, the.

Speaker 4 (01:03:27):
Rapper, it's the real niggaan that just it just you
wash it first. No, I don't I get Oh, yes,
you're tobacco with it. Okay, marriage, I'd like to do
it again. I know you said one word, but I'd
like Yeah, I'm hopeful for it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:46):
I believe in it. I think people it should be
And you said one word, this is what it's for.
To just expand. I think marriage should be what you
two want it to be.

Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
I think that.

Speaker 4 (01:03:59):
Society the places all these ideas on us, and I
think that it works out better for people when they
create their own set of rules and how they want
their lives to look. So I'm hopeful maybe one day again.

Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
Yeah, yeah, that's it. How long are you married? Six years? Oh,
that's a lot of time. Yeah. How old are you?
How old were you when you're married? Oh? How old? Sorry?
Twenty two? Oh you got married at twenty two? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:04:22):
Oh my lord, yeah twenty three something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
Did you know each other from?

Speaker 4 (01:04:29):
Like, like you, guys, I've known him since I was fifteen.
We went to high school together, and we plan to
get married.

Speaker 3 (01:04:35):
And have a baby and all that, and we were like,
this is what Katie would have been.

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
No, literally, it was very Katie horrible.

Speaker 4 (01:04:43):
I do feel like I got like my family values
from that show, though, because it's just such a cute show.
It's like, of course we all want that, but those
are some.

Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
Good values to have, you know. That was a great show.

Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
Religion complicated, that's what comes to mind. Breastfeeding very very
hard journey.

Speaker 4 (01:05:08):
And if you're able to do it for a long
amount of time, more power to you, and definitely do it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
If you're able to. How long did you breastfeed for?

Speaker 4 (01:05:17):
I think like eleven months, And the fact that I
made it it was like by the grace of God
because I did pumping. This is amount of time though
I had mastitis like two days after it was it
was one.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
I thought it was dying. It was one of the
worst pains ever in my life.

Speaker 3 (01:05:32):
So for baby, yeah, I know, I feel you. Favorite
porn category.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
I like a little.

Speaker 3 (01:05:41):
Not your voice kidding, like a little would you like girl?
Oh yeah, I love that squirt sisters, Yeah, I don't know,
just for the og porn people's cytheria, you know I'm
talking about. She is a waterfall. Anyway, I'll send you
some stuff. Though she's white. This the only white woman
I watch what I only watch. It's only for that reason. Literally,

(01:06:04):
very fast forward to that part. I don't watch it anymore.
But that was my intro into sporting anyway. Fun fact
is that nobody asked for Okay, deal breaker.

Speaker 2 (01:06:19):
Cheating really yeah, I'm not into it.

Speaker 4 (01:06:21):
Don't let me find the fuck out, that's sure because
we'll definitely. I don't recommend very territorial like I need.
I like what's mine to be mine?

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
Yeah, so.

Speaker 3 (01:06:34):
More kids, Yes, last time you had sex? Not me
thinking about it this hard. I think it's been like
it's been a few weeks. Okay, it's been a few weeks.
I've had like one person that I've been like, you know,

(01:06:54):
time hanging out with.

Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:06:55):
Nice, you can't give him too much attention. You're not
You're just in the running. Igga, don't get don't get
too comfortable.

Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
Anything can happen. Don't fuck it up. Toxic trait. I
sucker communicating. Honestly, I'm working on it. Yeah. Favorite sexposition
mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (01:07:19):
I like one thing I know that's always gonna work
for me is I don't even know what you call this,
but it's like missionary kind of but with my leg up,
so I don't know what, let's call it, like a
like oh, like you're on like you're like this, yes, exactly,
okaylationary leg up Okay, I was like, wait a min
on top of my le.

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
I don't know, I don't know what to call that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:42):
I like that one too. That one good, that does
it for me. But I love get in there. Femininity
everything white women.

Speaker 4 (01:07:56):
I mean, I came from a white woman, so I
mean they can be a bit traumatizing, but yeah, traumatizing.

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
We'll go with that.

Speaker 3 (01:08:07):
My mom's gonna be like, what the.

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
Fuck, it's okay, mom, We're going straight to anal sex.
I wouldna say the cadence of these questions we could have.
Maybe you know, I'm trying to confuse her.

Speaker 3 (01:08:20):
Okay, no, not into that. Okay, celebrity crush.

Speaker 4 (01:08:33):
Fuck, I like don't really have one. I don't know,
I don't really have one. I know that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
I know.

Speaker 3 (01:08:44):
I like, like real normal, normal people in real life.

Speaker 4 (01:08:47):
I do find some men attractive, but like there's not
like if I tell you who has my two celebrity
crushes for so long, I don't even want the world
to know that, like a future and fucking.

Speaker 3 (01:08:58):
Tied doll asign like that was that was the for
a while.

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
I know, God, but he's just way too disgusting, Like.

Speaker 3 (01:09:04):
I what is it about him? Because he's a little toxic,
because you're like kind of like.

Speaker 4 (01:09:08):
So like now like in my adult age, I just
am like I don't know, well, I could understand when
he first came out, like he hadn't fully actualized.

Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
We didn't know his name is like Natavious.

Speaker 3 (01:09:18):
He hadn't fully actualized into his full form yat so
we were still you know, he had social media out,
so it's like we know everybody's business.

Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
Damn here, Like the I like telling you, I also
have a crush really yeah, like actually you need to
put her on to some good till so she could understand.
And I like his music. Were we together One time
I went to I was somewhere. I was at a
studio and Tie Dollars Time walked in and it was
just something about his presence. He looked at me and
he said hi, I shook my hand. He was like

(01:09:46):
super kind and I was like, huh, I mean I
never thought of Tie Dollars Time like this until I
saw him in human and I was like, I'm with it.
I have like old.

Speaker 4 (01:09:54):
Celebrity crushes like Tank Robin Thick like now, when I
look at them, I was like, yo, I had his
post in.

Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
I kind of had a crush on Robin Thick.

Speaker 3 (01:10:06):
I'm not gonna lie when he get lost with that.
My god, I was like no, literally, I was so
mad when I found out they got married.

Speaker 2 (01:10:13):
Like you had a crush on the music, yo, I
had a crush on John b over Robin Sick.

Speaker 3 (01:10:22):
I mean like the originally Robins Thick in two thousand,
not fucking the two thousand and four whatever year that way.
Nice john By has never been at that one that
I don't know he never attracting. He was a cutie,
but not fine.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
Robin Thick was fine.

Speaker 3 (01:10:38):
I don't remember he had the men when he first
came out in the long hair bike. He was riding
that bike in New York.

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
That one that a little sexy white man I have.

Speaker 3 (01:10:50):
I have white board crushes blonde the other white soul
singer Jamison JM.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
Like his voice. He sounds like he's some soul he did.
What does he look like like one of them? What
is that?

Speaker 5 (01:11:02):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
Want Robby Robin Thick?

Speaker 3 (01:11:05):
Okay, well no, because Robin think of John.

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
We don't look the same anyway, old picture of Robin
Thick because she doesn't vision. Don't think of him right now?

Speaker 3 (01:11:15):
Look say Robin Dick two thousand and four, maybe two
thousand and one, because I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:11:19):
I think I was like tenth grade anyway.

Speaker 4 (01:11:22):
Therapy I love it, and I think everybody should fucking
go where therapy.

Speaker 2 (01:11:28):
Sorry, moved on while you're looking turn on. I like
my like.

Speaker 4 (01:11:39):
What turns me on? What gets me going is like
I love a good foot in the mouth. I'm not
gonna lie.

Speaker 2 (01:11:43):
What really you want a nigga's foot in your mouth?
I want my foot in his mouth because I just
saw your way in your mouth, and I.

Speaker 3 (01:11:55):
Was like, stop picturing that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
Don't ever do it again. Stop that happening.

Speaker 3 (01:11:59):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
I was like, I just I was like, oh my god,
just a little, just a little. She's nasty, filthy. I
like it. Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (01:12:12):
Yeah, no, my foot only biggest insecurity, biggest insecurity.

Speaker 2 (01:12:26):
Mm hmmm. He wasn't cute. Nope, let me see, let
me see.

Speaker 3 (01:12:37):
No, yeah, I see a glimpse of it over there,
and I'm like, no, what are we thinking?

Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
What are we thinking? What the fuck are we thinking?
It was the music, the blue white soul. Get your confused, girl,
we might be getting He aged like he was before.
He's the same.

Speaker 3 (01:13:01):
I don't remember that version.

Speaker 2 (01:13:03):
I told you guys, Oh my.

Speaker 4 (01:13:05):
God, no, I'm gonna find a fucking music video and
we're all gonna see he was.

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
Fine hypnotizing of it over you. Because I'm gonna say.

Speaker 4 (01:13:16):
This not as bash as this lady's husband or April,
whatever her name. I could just tell he just dyed
his hair, like just be you know, Erica says it
to me every nigger she pulls up.

Speaker 2 (01:13:27):
I can tell he just died his hair, just dire.

Speaker 3 (01:13:29):
I'm like, how if you are over forty years old
and you are a white man, you're dyeing your hair
most likely. And if you're black, mate, you have a
little more time, got a lot at lot more time.

Speaker 2 (01:13:40):
Erica is adamant about identifying the dis She's like, he died.

Speaker 3 (01:13:45):
Freshly fresh, That's what she said.

Speaker 2 (01:13:47):
It's fresh yesterday. Like, how do you know this information?
I have done?

Speaker 4 (01:13:52):
Okay, my biggest insecurity I want to say when that's
so fucking funny, but I'm not about to put my.

Speaker 2 (01:13:57):
Come on, you're already well, I'll.

Speaker 3 (01:14:01):
Say right now.

Speaker 4 (01:14:02):
Lately, probably my boobs, you know, after having like a baby, Yeah,
all the pumping, all the like, whoa, that's a lot big.

Speaker 2 (01:14:10):
Oh would you get your boobs done?

Speaker 4 (01:14:12):
I got my boobs done before. So I got my
boobs done when I was like eighteen. It's always been
the boobs for me. Like one of my boobs was
like way bigger than the other one. So I ended
up getting a reduction in a lift when I was
like literally eighteen, okay, because I was insecure about them then,
Like I couldn't wear your natural boobs.

Speaker 3 (01:14:29):
Yeah, I'm talking about putting an implant in your titty.

Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
No, no, no, I don't do fake anything. I'm not
into it. I might, I just don't recommend it. I'm scared.

Speaker 3 (01:14:40):
I'm just last saying I recommend it. I just always
I was like you two for a really long time.
And then I actually went in for something else. I
went in for LiPo, and then they said you're not
you don't qualify for lepo, but you should get boobs.
And I was like I should and then they convinced me,
and I was like, maybe I should get boobs.

Speaker 2 (01:14:55):
I think I need boobs. Am I'm doing this?

Speaker 3 (01:14:57):
And then I did it, and I no regrets. Recommend
if you don't. If you're not comfortable with your titties fixing,
but you got a good job, go to doctor Laverson
in San Diego.

Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
I'm gonna call him and just see how much time
I have.

Speaker 3 (01:15:08):
I don't want to read if anyone's ever gone to him,
because this is not paid at all.

Speaker 4 (01:15:11):
Just what your freeness, the little booby. That's what I
wish I was born now.

Speaker 2 (01:15:16):
I like my boobs. I just I wear them often
out to parties.

Speaker 3 (01:15:20):
But I'm gonna have another baby and I'm gonna I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:15:24):
I don't understand. I'm just I have it in my
awareness that after forty four, in five years or whatever,
how many years is a lot of years. I'm going
to see doctor Laverston and only if he's not retired
by then. So okay, you're gonna go take you. Eric's
been trying, its been trying to.

Speaker 3 (01:15:44):
Our Next check, baby is those ticks?

Speaker 4 (01:15:49):
I get that though, after like a baby, I would
understand that.

Speaker 3 (01:15:52):
Yeah I do have a baby again, then.

Speaker 2 (01:15:54):
Maybe I would.

Speaker 4 (01:15:55):
I mean, I also love your body, Yeah that too,
love your body.

Speaker 2 (01:15:58):
I love my body, I really do. I just I'm
for seeing that life after a second child, later in life,
it's gonna look differently, like I probably will snap back.
I'm not really concerned. But I like to be topless,
and I just for everybody's sake. I guess if I
get them done at forty five, at sixty, I can
still wear them to the party. Yeah with my friends,
you know, Like there's Mila and her forty year old boobs,

(01:16:20):
but she's sixty. I love that.

Speaker 3 (01:16:24):
Oh my god, Okay, a few more, you get more.

Speaker 2 (01:16:27):
I have a few more.

Speaker 3 (01:16:33):
Let's see. Do you like girls?

Speaker 2 (01:16:42):
I do?

Speaker 4 (01:16:43):
I like I feel like I like to say I
like girl because it's like, it's not it's not all girls.

Speaker 2 (01:16:49):
You know, there's just been a couple of times in
my life. Where are you buy fun like me? I'm
not by fun? See, I don't like that.

Speaker 3 (01:16:55):
Like I don't have to like you know, have anything
like I just yeah, I mean I will. So you
don't say you're saying you don't have a label, like
you don't wouldn't label yourself by sexual I.

Speaker 4 (01:17:04):
Wouldn't label myself bisexual necessarily. But if the right woman
came along that I just I don't know if I
could see myself long term with the woman, Like I'm
the kind of woman who likes a man.

Speaker 2 (01:17:15):
I love a little dick, not little.

Speaker 3 (01:17:20):
So okay, best advice you've ever gotten, Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:17:25):
Goodness, best advice I've ever gotten.

Speaker 3 (01:17:27):
That's a hard one you're asking. Fuck just or maybe
the best advice you don't go to a didty party?

Speaker 2 (01:17:37):
Was expecting that. I think those are done now.

Speaker 3 (01:17:41):
Yes, okay, I went to a ditty party, but it
was I went to a white party.

Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
One I went to party with me? No, we did.
We went to Coachella, did we? Yeah? It was on
that crazy name where we took the mushrooms and made
it was before remember we couldn't wait.

Speaker 3 (01:17:58):
You guys are my kind of mom.

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
Right before we did the Mollie and the mushroom, Molly
and the mus right before we got like the coach.
We were first.

Speaker 3 (01:18:08):
After I thought it was what's his name, Jeff?

Speaker 2 (01:18:11):
It was Diddy. There's fried chicken? Really? Wow? I never
went to a neither.

Speaker 6 (01:18:22):
Before we get out of here, do you have a
horse story you can share with us.

Speaker 2 (01:18:26):
A horror story? Horse stories?

Speaker 4 (01:18:38):
I haven't really done too many horrorsh things in my life.
I can't lie what comes. I'm always I've been like
a relationship girl like you never had with your man.
I mean yeah, So what comes to mind is it's
I've just had sex and lots of fun places.

Speaker 3 (01:18:53):
Like we're like on a roof, like in a random
New York bathroom, because I guess we just couldn't wait,
and that that time comes to mind for some reason
because it was so exciting again, like.

Speaker 4 (01:19:09):
I went to meet him and his family like we
like they were on like a family vacation, so like
you know, we'd left away from them and we just
couldn't We had to.

Speaker 2 (01:19:17):
Have each other.

Speaker 3 (01:19:17):
Yeah, that's like, that was my man.

Speaker 4 (01:19:19):
So it's just like I don't really have too many
like Horrish like stories. It can I let my man
slet me out. I don't really like.

Speaker 2 (01:19:27):
Yeah, best kind of sledding because you feel safe hopefully. Yeah,
you supposed that your man should be the safe guy.
Hopefully hopefully. Oh, we got to pick a tarot card
before we get out of here.

Speaker 6 (01:19:41):
I better not picking going on.

Speaker 2 (01:20:00):
If he's lifting a weight.

Speaker 6 (01:20:02):
She's showing him something.

Speaker 2 (01:20:05):
Is this my destiny? They're going to figure.

Speaker 4 (01:20:08):
Something out together, I hope. So my life is three
of us? Is my life being figured out?

Speaker 2 (01:20:14):
Finally, three of pentacles. The stone mason couldn't build the
cathedral without the help of the architects, and they couldn't
build it without him. Each person has an important role
to play, and when they come together as a team,
they can create something much more significant than if they
were to undertake the project on their own. So when

(01:20:35):
the three of Pentacles turns up in a tarot reading,
take it as a sign to collaborate with others, creating
synergies to achieve big results. The three of Pentacles represents
the value of different ideas and levels of experience and collaboration.
The architects respect and specialize knowledge of the stonesman Stone's mason,
and the stone mason appreciates the wisdom of the experience

(01:20:55):
of the architects. Even through their backgrounds, experience levels, and
expertise are very, very different. They can become together to
share their insight in a way that creates synergy and
improves the finished product. There's no us and team.

Speaker 4 (01:21:08):
What just happened here? Three of us came together. Lovely energy.
I've enjoyed myself so much.

Speaker 3 (01:21:14):
Yeah, thank you, I think you're coming to join us,
And shout out to your team too.

Speaker 2 (01:21:18):
Shout out to Melissa for Melissa.

Speaker 3 (01:21:20):
Yes, she's brought us two incredible guests.

Speaker 2 (01:21:23):
Shout out to Ken the man and her bagel cat.

Speaker 3 (01:21:29):
Coming up and coming up here with the little baby cheatesh.

Speaker 2 (01:21:32):
I don't know that I have hyper allergenic. I'm like, hell,
it's so cute.

Speaker 3 (01:21:37):
I can't up here, you know here it's five dog
and be like, yeah, it's fine, let me touch it. Meanwhile,
I have her like cat tatted on me.

Speaker 2 (01:21:47):
Basically, I love talking about cat.

Speaker 3 (01:21:50):
Wait, what does your cat trauma? Because I have some
to I'm just allergic and also I don't know, like
their energy is like sneaky, it is all time like cat.
That's what I'm That's what it feels like. I'm like,
we both I don't feel safe with you in the room.
Like I'm I'm already like kind of like not gonna
tell you everything.

Speaker 2 (01:22:09):
You're not gonna tell me? What are we doing? Why
are we here together?

Speaker 5 (01:22:13):
Like?

Speaker 3 (01:22:13):
Get the fuck out?

Speaker 2 (01:22:14):
What is the sign? Scorpio cancer? Cancer? Yeah? Actually this
last retreat, I called myself like trying to like do this,
like being one with this cat, a jungle cat, and
the fucking bitch she was so cute at first. She
ripped into my lip and it was like she was
like trying. I was trying to pull her off of me,
and I could see like it was in like the

(01:22:35):
crease of my lip, and I pulled the claw out.
My lip got this fucking big.

Speaker 3 (01:22:40):
Can we insert the photo here? I'm gonna have to
it is it was? It was astonishing, It was this.

Speaker 2 (01:22:45):
Is it because I'm allergic? I look like it was huge.
I was like how I was like that for hours,
like a whole day. So yeah, I definitely have cat trauma,
even though I did totally try to take that cat.
Thank you guys for listening. It's always wonderful to have
a guest, and like I know, our audience is really

(01:23:06):
going to appreciate this conversation. Thank you for coming, Thanks
for having me. Can you tell our people where they
can find you?

Speaker 4 (01:23:12):
Pretty much just on Instagram at Park and Mackenna with
three a's.

Speaker 3 (01:23:16):
Do you have any new songs coming out or I?

Speaker 4 (01:23:18):
Okay, so I have this single. I want to drop
it very soon. It's called No Caller I d so
it'll be fun.

Speaker 3 (01:23:24):
Because my daddy, my daddy, and Atlanta, because I am
lazy book, I have a couple of days in Atlanta myself.

Speaker 2 (01:23:33):
Hey, get you a daddy in Atlanta? Okay, they do
basically make them the best.

Speaker 3 (01:23:37):
Wait, why would I first hear the song?

Speaker 2 (01:23:39):
Though?

Speaker 3 (01:23:39):
I really thought you were talking about you daddy, like
you were going to see your daddy in Atlanta. Maybe
I was still I was. I was like, she's Katie
to go see your dad at I'm part of the problem.
I'm part of the problem those people.

Speaker 2 (01:23:52):
I never thought that. I don't know why exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:23:54):
She says, I know a couple of days in.

Speaker 2 (01:23:58):
My daddy. Oh my God.

Speaker 3 (01:24:01):
Anyway, y'all, please make sure you subscribe to our YouTube channel,
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Speaker 2 (01:24:10):
We can't listen. Download it just.

Speaker 3 (01:24:13):
Downloaded for us. Thank you, and make sure you check
out the Good Vibe Retreat and we'll see you guys
next week. Bye please.

Speaker 2 (01:24:21):
Yeah, I'm living so good. Can't you tell?

Speaker 5 (01:24:24):
I went through a drought. That's until I find a
well made my have been known art that used to
be broken. Helle now got the blues in inc like
Beyonce Jisell.

Speaker 3 (01:24:32):
Throat shots from Pop and his cow.

Speaker 5 (01:24:34):
We're in our voices, patriarch and catch it in the
box to exploi us.

Speaker 2 (01:24:37):
Women put the p and powers, so what's pointless? They
want me to be good? So I made bad choices.
Bad mom. Not a bad mom, but a bad mom.

Speaker 5 (01:24:45):
Gitter's in on, put cannabis in her bath, bon walk
in bosses cap and I blew his cat.

Speaker 2 (01:24:50):
Ball tied dog.

Speaker 5 (01:24:51):
Now I'm immune to the cat called Herbie and no
waisted straight to win like a dollar sign. Mother rent
the lumber when so it's like a water sign where
you're renting wins recess. You will win the summertime I
do with all, ain't no one that needs to run
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