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December 17, 2025 89 mins

Happy holidays tribe!

In the last episode of the year, Good Moms reflect on what they will and won't carry with them into 2026, how doom-scrolling quietly messes with your mood, and why anxiety can show up even when life is “fine.” They open up about guilt of doing well while the world feels heavy, parenting in a hyper-digital world, and admitting you don’t actually have it all figured out! 

In this episode you can expect to hear: 

  • Erica’s pool-side Bali experience with a woman wearing a MAGA hat and how it reminded her to protect your energy
  • Taking your children’s phone away, opening an honest conversation about technology, trust, safety, and how childhood conditioning influences parenting decisions.
  • Erica and Milah talk about feeling stretched thin while trying to show up for work, kids, partners, family, and friendships and realizing that spreading energy everywhere isn’t sustainable.
  • Why you need to go further in your boldness
  • How Good Vibes retreat has cultivated real community and lasting friendships
  • Intuition, mushrooms, listening to the body, and discerning what information and energy to trust.
  • Relying less on the internet and more on inner knowing.
  • The episode closes with intentions around release, presence, and entering the next chapter with clearer boundaries, stronger discernment, and a commitment to boldness.

 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Once upon a time there was a good old traditional housewife.
She couldn't She cleaned and cared for her children and
the man of the house, and of course she didn't
talk back. She was both obedient and soft by nature.
She was a good woman who always made good choices.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Sit, we're good Mom's bad choices.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
Who single mom who said fuck the patriarchy, shared all
their bad choices.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
And sound out they were so bad.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
After all, we're expert overshares and your new besties. Sit
back and enjoy the ride. I can do it. Welcome
back to Good Mom's Bad Choices. I'm Erica and I'm Mila.
Happy hump Day, bitches, Happy motherfucking hump Day. It is
our last episode of the year. We made it, Nigga,

(00:43):
We made it, Nigga, we made it.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
I don't know if that's the beat, but in my
head it sounds so in the spirit of twenty twenty
five being over. I don't know if you're watching our
YouTube right now, but if you're not, I just want
to encourage you to go check out are You Tube
because we're wearing special outfits for today. Now. I this
was spirit led, this was you for My outfit was

(01:07):
spirit guided.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
I just let the universe you needed to do today.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
I just came. I brought I thought that I brought
my sparkly pants, like I.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
Thankt her this morning. It's the New Year's episode. Should
we were Sparkles. She was like, I guess it's gonna
be a little bit early. I was like, well, at
least speaking dress festive. She's like, I was like, we
don't have to. She's like, well, you're not going to
just were Sparkles without me.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
That's why I was like, she can, Yeah exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
I was like, okay, and so I wore this show.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Show you off a baby, get up, come on, show
showed off, showed off, yes, yes, uh showed the front
this lick, get this lip yep. Yes, it's Sparkles, it's glitters.
It's giving disco, Barbie, Barbie and Abisa.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
Why I own this? Who knows? But the point is
I pulled this baby.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
We need we need a shoe cam. Shoe cam. Yeah.
This is for our foot fetish lovers. Where I'm joining
only feet in twenty twenty six, is there all a
public service announcement? I'm joining only feet?

Speaker 3 (02:08):
Is there an only feet?

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (02:09):
And I'm joining me too.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
The people have spoken. I did a poll on Instagram
and ninety eight percent whatever two percent said no, fuck y'all,
but ninety eight percent said yes, and there were like
thirty people that voted, including my mother. My mother has
approved my foot journey, and so because she has approved,
I can move forward now without shame. Rancelova, thank you

(02:34):
for your support and my only foot page. You're crazy
hit the Lincoln.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
His description.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Anyway, I forgot my pants on the bed, including I
had sparkly earrings as well. I was like, I had
my like basic shirt and I had like my sparkly pants. Anyway,
I get here and I have nothing, no earring, no
fucking sparkly pant, just yellow polka dot parachute.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
Pants and I'm wearing this.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
Yeah. So I was like, I thought I looked in
the closets. I say, I feel like there's a piece
of fabric here. There's gotta be fabric. I don't know why.
I knew that there was.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Because I bought that, but I thought that it was left.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
I don't know why. I feel like there's sparkling. And
then she gets here and I'm like, is there fabric here?
And she's like, actually, she pulls this black, long piece
of fabric and I decided to wrap it around my body.
Let me give let me give you a little at OTD.
This is custom custom gtur Okay.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
She's wrapped it around several times to create layers and
body Yadayadi layers and texture split that custom created.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
A layers dresses cotour bi Erica. You know, I'm just
here to prove that you can do anything. You can
do anything at any point in your life. Just start.
You can. But when I put it on, I looked
in the mirror. The first thing I thought was, Oh,
this is perfect because this is the funeral for twenty

(04:01):
twenty five. This is like the funeral and you're like
ushering us into twenty twenty six in Sparkle fashion.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
You're the twenty twenty five and I'm twenty twenty six.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yes we are. This is the birth. This is the
birth and the death life cycles. Yes, you can't have
the dock without the light, the light without the dock.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
So yeah, if you're wondering if buy our outfits are
totally matching, that's why, because we're representing two sides of
the coin. Yes, we're having a funeral for twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
I think that a lot of people can attest that
this year has been a bit challenging in different ways.
If it hasn't, thank thank God for you. But for me,
it's been a bit. I feel like I've been walking
through a lot of I feel like I'm on the edge,
Like I've been walking up this mountain and I'm like
scared to like jump on to the other side, and
so instead I'm just like wallowing in the lack of surrender.

(04:50):
And so I'm I'm ready. This is my funeral to
resisting surrender. So it feels good because your feels to
resisting surrender.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
Yeah. Yeah, I guess twenty twenty five it went by.
I think we say this every year, but all the
years go by fast. I was just twenty twenty four
and now it's twenty twenty six and I'm just somewhere
trying to catch up again. But I feel like it
was a pretty outside of the obvious America dying quickly
not slowly. It's been decent, but I guess it's pretty

(05:22):
hard to have a decent year when everything around you
is burning like humanity. And I think I think it
my year has been I have so many things to
be grateful for. And I think this year showed me
how important it is to observe and protect what like
your piece overall and how you allow it to impact you.

(05:43):
So like I realized this year how much social media
impacts me, Like I noticed the shifts in like my
happiness even like when I am looking at that more
and more and more, so like you could be living
like the best life ever, but then you can feel
like in fear things you don't even know where it
comes from.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
So some of the fear that I feel like I'm
ready to let go as the fear that's not even
my own, because there's a lot of fear that's not
even my own that's being like projected onto me and
then I'm applying it to my life when I didn't.
That wasn't even like crystallized in my body or by me.
It was by something else or something I observed.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
I mean definitely, when I think about there is times
in this year, like things that happen politically or you know,
like on a world scale, and I was like, are
we gonna make it like the beginning last year, I
was like, we have to leave the country next week,
or we're gonna all die and I was serious, and
the fear was literally living in my body. And then
like every month, I'm like, oh, we're not dead yet.

(06:43):
We're not dead yet. And now we're here, We're not
dead yet. It's still miserable and crazy, but it is.
There is a level of fear and sadness. I realized
there's like a lot of sadness on the Internet, and
although some of it's informative, it's also like you really
have to pick and choose, and I think it's difficult
to do that, to filter it out because it's like
there's this weird like balance between I'm grateful I have

(07:04):
this thing and this thing and I have a roof
over my head and fit on the table, And then
it's like, well, how can I exist here when people
are literally being starved to death and being bombed and
dying for absolutely no reason, Like you feel like you're
supposed to do something but you don't know what to do.
But then you're like living in your regular life day
to day and crying about shit that doesn't matter and
meaning people can't even eat, so it's like you're constantly
in a state of like confusion.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah, and then also as you're saying this, I'm thinking
about like how those particular situations then also make you
question your relationships with people. And so that's a whole
other layer that's happening in the background of your psyche
of like that feeling unsafe as well, like feeling like
can I trust you? Like do I fuck with you?
Like if something went down to so now you're looking
at Jackie different when Jackie was just your homegirl last

(07:47):
year and y'all were picnicking with kids, you know.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
So it's like, because there's a level of surfaceness that
I feel like Americans have had, like the privilege of bypassing.
Like there's a level of depth that Americans have had
the level of bypassing because we pretend to be in
this little bubble and like don't acknowledge the fucked up
shit that America does. And so when it comes to
the forefront and people are not on the same page
as you, you're like, oh, you don't care about people, Wow,

(08:12):
I don't care about like humanity. If they don't, they're not, like,
look like you don't share the same religious beliefs as you.
That's interesting, And then it makes you like shift, like
did I ever know you? Who the fuck are you?
Why are we friends? Right? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (08:24):
So anyway, I've just yeah that that piece I'm really
I want to let go in twenty twenty six because
that's going to continue just by design. That's an agenda
they're pushing anyway, but I don't have to participate in it.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
Well, that's what I realized too, is that it's an
agenda like the shifting of feelings. And you know, recently,
I guess, I don't know, we talked about this. Uh
what's the fucking fuck fuck uh Tesla guy Uh yeah,
Elon Musk he mistake like he added locations to Twitter.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
I saw that like a fucking fuck tart.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
And then like come to find out all of these
like like all these MAGA accounts were like in somewhere
in like Russia or like all it was like basically
robot accounts. And it goes to show how intentional the
manipulation of our feelings is. And I was also seeing
something and that we're saying like like obviously like love
is the highest frequency, but like the lowest frequency is

(09:20):
like sadness and anger, And if they can manipulate masses
through this fucking tiny box to be angry, to be sad.
Then they have they have full total control without having to,
Like they already controlled food, They're already controlling our minds,
so like then they can just control the narrative. And
it made me think about Bali when we were in

(09:40):
the pool we ran in. We were in Bali, a
thousand million miles from America, and you know, we're having
a good time, and this fucking woman is there wearing
a fucking Maga hat and I was like, immediately I
saw the red hat and I was like, this can't
possibly be what I think it is. In Bali and
this fucking ugly hideous had came.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
To fuck with us, had way over she came to
fuck with us because I had seen her earlier and
I stared her the fun.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
Had way too much face lifts. It just wasn't looking good.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
She came to swim right in front of us, just
flowed around.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
Yeah, we're a group of fourteen black women, so why
the fuck would you swim your white ass in that
fucking red hat over here? And it immediately, like it
really pissed me off. And as much as I was
trying to ignore it, I started to recognize, like how
much power that hat had over me, because me and Erica.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
Definitely questioned her, interrogated her, and then I might.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
Have splashed a few splashes she did, pretending like I
was stretching. Oh oops.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
I interrogated her first with a shout out to Nicole
from the retree for saving she made me. She was like,
let's go have a great day, ma'am. She like cut
the conversation because she could see where I was going
with it, I.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
Mean, and Eric trying to get in a fight.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
And so then I told me. I was like, I
went over there, and she's like you, what did you say?
And I was like, Nicole made me cut, like made
me feel like I needed to like leave. She's like,
fuck that, let's go back. We swim back over to
the bar.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
Children.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
The thought of it is, actually.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
We're leading a retreat. We said, we're at a pool,
We're at a pool lounge party. Let's go, let's go
pick a bone with this bitch that we don't know.
So we swam back over like fucking black mermaids. But
didn't she tell you that she was like married to
an American or.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
She said she's married to an American and she just
she's about common sense. She believes in common.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
Sense, That's what she said. And then I said, let's
swim back over there. I said, common sense, huh, she believes.
Let's as like we I initiated, let's go back. Let's
I think I need to go back over there. And
then I just decided to just be like, I'm so
happy we're black and we never have to get like
have to have the embarrassment of having a terrible facelift
and just like hiding from the sun and looking hideous.

(11:59):
I'm so croud to be black and beautiful and young
and wow, God, that's and you know what I just
I at that very moment, I decided that I was
going to be a Karen and I was just going
to say everything I wanted to say without looking at her,
and then she could just hear me. And I was like,
I'm so sick of ignorant, ugly hate to be themselves,
white people spreading hate and Melissa, I was just going
on and she was right there.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
She know she heard you. She eventually left.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
She kept looking at me, and then I said, you.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
Guys actually talk. No, Yeah, she eventually just left.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
Good. I kept going I know she did slashed. She
came for her that her alcohol choices. I think she
was like drinking bottom chelf. I was like, I'm so
happy we won't have to be kind of four top
shelf liquor. That's disgusting, especially at that big age.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
I was just maybe I was drunk, you were drunk.
We were all drunk. We had had lots of shots
at that point.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
And I was like stretching and like splashing, and then
she finally left. But then I realized, Wow, she really
made me angry. And I don't even know this bitch,
and I probably didn't have to go that far. And
but it's just again back to the point here, other
than us harassing this woman in the maga hat in
motherfucking Bali, because why are you wearing it? You know

(13:07):
what it means? Well, she knew it.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
It's not American at all.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
Yeah, like, why are you even wearing it? But I
realize how much power we give like others, especially black people,
Like I could go down the black people loophole. All
my my feed is about black power and also black history,
which obviously in America is sad and makes me angry.
But then it's like, what are you consuming? Because there's
a lot of black joy too, there's a lot of

(13:31):
black love. There's a lot of beautiful things, and it's
like if you go down the route of sadness, you
will find yourself there.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
Yeah, no, it's true, It's very true. I even I
have this app on my phone. It's called be Present
And this is not an ad. I'm paying for this app,
and it literally I know you can kind of get
on Locke. I think is it unlocked. It'll kick you
out maybe with your phone, and there's settings on your
phone to like guard your intake of how much time

(13:59):
you're on social media. This app makes it really.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
Hard, like really hard to get back in, to get
back in, like.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
You really got to try, you'll and it'll like, like
my social media this this is actually annoying and actually
need to change it right but right now it only
allows me to be on Instagram five minutes at a time,
and so sometimes when I'm making a real I'm like, bitch,
but it shows me how I have it ready to go. No,
but but I I really do, I will. I really

(14:25):
I think that we have to kind of be a
bit vigilant in that way. I don't think there's really
a way at this point that you can really totally
protect yourself on social media and what you intake, because
like even with Instagram, like they are half of my feed,
isn't even my feed. I have to select my feed,
like I have to say, like only show me my following,
my followers.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
Oh, is that they're a setting for that is sometime
who the fuck are these people?

Speaker 2 (14:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (14:49):
Sing for that and I realized I'm nosy, So so
I start the I start the first ten seconds, but you.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
Have to go every time you open the app, you
have to select that. Oh it's not like a setting.
You can just at least not to But that's also
intentional exactly because we have Instagram's the Devil also which
like I mean not also like for sure yeah the
Devil Instagram Yeah meta essentially meta.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
So anyway, that that I'm going to keep and this
energy in twenty twenty six because it's actually been helping,
and because I don't really feel like you can really
safeguard the Internet, like if I'm committed to like not,
I know that I'm I'm too sensitive. I can't look
at I cannot scroll, nor do I want to numb

(15:32):
myself to be able to scroll between a dying child
in Gaza and a fucking like Chris Corsini's sending the
showing sharing my scorpio horoscope for the months.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
That's also probably a big, a big like agenda is that,
of course, it's the numbing of absolutely we've been We've
been being numbed for years at this point. But I'm
I'm I'm just like really, I'm opting out. I don't
want to be part of it anymore. So I realized
how much it can I could just like go, go go,
and then suddenly I'm like, bit, what the fuck have
we even done doing?

Speaker 2 (16:01):
Even holding your breath for five minutes not even realizing
it doesn't Yeah, why am I anxious?

Speaker 3 (16:07):
So yeah, that's also a funeral to that as well.
So we're releasing instagram Ish in twenty twenty six. Maybe
we should do a toast. Okay, yes, it's only eleven am,
but they didn't have sparkling apple ciders, so here we
are should be open one at a time. Maybe drink

(16:29):
open that one. Okaykay?

Speaker 2 (16:30):
What are you guys releasing in twenty twenty six, So
let us know in the comments if you're on our
YouTube channel or if you're in our discord, let's talk
about it because I want to know, because I need inspirations.
Sometimes you need to hear other people's releases. I'm like, yeah,
that's and that too. Let me add that one and
m because yeah, it feels like what twenty twenty five

(16:52):
is also revealed to me and probably my age too,
as I'm getting older and my daughter's getting older. Is
just like like we're in the middle of part of
our life. If we're lucky, like God forbid anything happened
to us. We're in the middle part of our life.
But like we're starting to see how precious life is
and how quick it goes, and like I want to
fucking I want to like make sure that I'm doing

(17:12):
all the shit that I want to do with the
things that I've acquired. Like we've worked really hard to
be able to like live a life of live a life,
sharing our stories, living a live a life storytelling, live
a life where we can be virtual in some capacity
if we want to. You know, we have the option.
We have we have flexibility, Like we get to try,

(17:35):
like am I fully capitalizing on all the manifestations that
I asked for? Like am I am I enjoying the
fruits of them, or am I just like continuously trying
to create more of the fruits. And I do think
that I enjoy them, but I want to go even harder.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
No, I realize that I don't know if it's human
nature or capitalism, but there's a level of like more
and more and more and more, more and more anxiousness
and like, uh, just consumerism more like buy more, spend more.
And you know, you always read those like memes or whatever,
like people in their old age when they ask them

(18:14):
like if you could tell your younger self anything, what
would it be?

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Everything?

Speaker 3 (18:17):
And everyone's like, don't worry so much.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
Don't worry every.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
Single once, Like, don't worry so much. Do the things
that make you scared live more. And my biggest fear
and I realized, like I don't ever want to like
be sitting at death's fucking doorstep and be like, oh
my god, Like even the things that I did that
I enjoyed, I wasn't fully in them because I was
worried about something else, you know what I mean? Like
what if like you have this a beautiful life and
you've had like we've we've just created a bunch of

(18:42):
shit and then a bunch of shit that we've like
really fought for and we do we live a life
of like leisure. We get to decorate our woman cave
and like come into our office and be late or whatever.
Like there's no clocking in, which essentially is the worst
I mean, not the worst, but like it's it's not flexible,
and like are we really great? Like are we really

(19:03):
in the presence of the life that we've created for ourselves,
you know? And I'm like, of course, We'm not like
Paris Hilton Rich.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
I Yeah, twenty twenty three really showed me how bad
of a job I was doing with that. Twenty four sorry,
it really showed me how a bad of a job
I was doing with that and twenty twenty three. Honestly,
this year I have felt more present, but I have
that it's the enjoyment of the things that I've created

(19:31):
that I've like I didn't fully I think expand in
because there's a lot of fear too, like, oh my god,
do I am I gonna like this like scarcity mentality
I felt creeping back into me that I've had to
release because I know that I'm abundant. I know that
like every time I'm at my last, like I'm always
provided for And also I have a lot of fucking

(19:52):
skills and I can really do and.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
Create anything I want.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
Yeah, so that too, Like I really had to sit
with myself recently and be like, bitch, you can do
did did? Did? And like have you fully? Like like
you haven't flexed all these muscles a because you've been
doing like this over here, But if you need to,
you can and you can do it well. So I
think a lot of times too, like we forget we
have these these other skill sets. We forget how to

(20:15):
like bring them all together again as well, Like like
maybe you're a painter, maybe you're a creative, but like
now you're you've been in a corporate job for a
long time, so you feel like that part of you
has to die, but you're kind of dying in corporate
Like how do we braid all these things together? And
like remind you of that bitch that you were over
here can still exist in this space and like living

(20:37):
a life and building a life of real alignment and
like we've done that, We have done that.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
I mean, how are we perfect in it? Absolutely not?

Speaker 2 (20:45):
Like no, but like I know that that is something
that that we're masters at and I and then I'm
a master in too, and that's something that I'm bringing
with me in twenty twenty six. Like I'm I've been
working on this program, the Sacred CEO program that I've
been just like scared to do, scared to do it alone,
scared to talk about it out loud, just like kind

(21:08):
of ide eating in my like cave of like what
are what are all the things I can do? And
it's like twenty twenty six, like I'm not like scared
anymore around like what I'm capable of and also but
also knowing that the reason I've had the luxury of
being more present this year is because I've had I

(21:28):
don't want to say I've had less things to do
because for granted we've had six retreats this year, but
like we've had a chiller year, like we would have
had like four retreats a tour, like you know, like
a thousand things to do. And so like I just
want to go into twenty twenty six with like being
able to be even more abundant, but doing like less,

(21:55):
doing less, and just like being really intentional about like
what it is that we do together so that we're
not like running thin and like overwhelmed and it's putting
stress on our relationship and our business and our entity.
And then like same with me, Like same here and
like having the space to spend with my family and friends,
like having the desire, having the energy to do it.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
The energy because I feel like I'm always tired. Yeah,
so was I.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
I said something the other day to you in the
park about energy and I like wanted to remember what
it was, energy scarcity. Like they're like I was talking
about how like not feeling like I have enough for everyone,
not feeling like I have enough for everything to do,
and like just like of like of so avoiding being

(22:47):
you know, being avoidant, being like more reserved and like
trying to like be like how do how do I
maintain like being present for my daughter? I' felt like
been with her more than ever over the last year,
and like how do I maintain being like present in
my relationship? Like I'm also like there's a strain on
family right now, so like how do I be present
here and show up for them? And then like my friends,

(23:09):
like I feel like my like hang out with my
friends is taking like more of a back seat because
I'm like I don't have a lot of energy for
that right now, but I know that like I need that.
I know I need that energy, and so like I'm
removing this idea of like scarcity.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
Energy and that I have a lot of energy and
that I just have to.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Like find different ways to distribute them in better ways
that don't feel exhausting for me.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
Yeah. Yeah, And just like prioritizing where your time goes
and with who and like not on the phone or
not worrying because I think I realized too, like the
worry is such an energy drainer and sometimes you spend
so much time worrying. Is that like it's it's literally
taking up capacity in your brain and in your in
your your frequency. Like when you could be like with

(24:01):
your family, or you could be enjoying like the house
that you've created or the love that you've created, and
instead we're like in fear of something and that is
consuming so much of our brain space and of our Like, yeah,
I do feel like I've been like more present this year,
like trying to take it, you know, be like really present.
We have had six retreats this year, and I realized,

(24:22):
like we've literally gone out of the country at least
every other month in the entire year, and it's like
it's beautiful and it's also draining, and it's like not
I obviously I think we wish to be able to
travel all the time and leisure and make money and
do these things, but it's also like when you pack
your stuff and then unpack and then get there and
then your jet lag, and then you get back and
then you have things that jump into and then there's

(24:42):
the next project, and it's like it can be consuming
and like finding the balance in it all, and I know,
like there's just so much as you get older, there's
so much to like not sort through, but like recognize
it through and then execute and body execute because it's

(25:03):
like I can have the concept here, I can understand it,
I can say it. I can see that I'm consuming
so much time on social media.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
But then there's a.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
Next step of actually executing, putting the phone down, putting
the app on the phone that says get the fuck
off the phone, actively choosing joy instead of worry instead
of anger, and then like you know, like there's steps
and it doesn't happen overnight, and I know we've been
talking about you know, being present and all these resting
being present, doing live we historically do too much, period

(25:32):
and like just coming off that ledge and like also
not comparing, Oh, this person over here is doing this,
this podcast is doing that. Wherever we invited to this,
you know, like just like everything is fucking fine. You
don't have to be invited to every fucking shindig. You
don't have to do it, you know, like you know,
but like there is there's a level of like, like

(25:53):
you said, we've been provided for. I have to think
about that in every aspect of my life. Is like
I have manifested so many beautiful things. There's no way
God has brought me this far to be like haha
filled you bitch. You know, like there's no way I
got this far. Like sometimes in like the last couple
of years, and I was worried about money, or worried
about finances, worried about whatever the fuck. I'm just like

(26:14):
there were so many things I was worried about that
now had been taken care of. I can't imagine that
God would suddenly rip those things from underneath me. Like
if I can create this, I can create this, I
can create my reality and so I just have to
stay in that, you know, just like everything is going
to be okay, and any challenge that comes at me,
I can. I have all the tools I need to

(26:35):
face them. Yeah. So it's just I totally resonate with that,
and going into twenty twenty six, I just hope that
we can continue on that route of being present and
you know, expecting more and while also having rest and
feeling like we have enough energy to pour into all
the things that we love and the people that we love,

(26:56):
because like that's really what I don't want to look
back at my life and be like, damn, like but
I really like I fell in love, and I had
this beautiful relationship, and I had this beautiful kid and
this like every stage has been beautiful, but like, was
I really there? So really an appreciation of it because
some people don't experience the lives that we're getting to experience.
So like, as I'm in it, I really want to
like milk every drop. So let's do a toast Jeers

(27:19):
twenty twenty six and making it the best year yet.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
Yes to being present and confidence in the stillness and
the slowness even, confidence in the slowness even and.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
Confident in just our offerings to the.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
World and letting go of things we can't change, or yeah, surrendering.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
And being intentional. Amen, love you, love you. Woh next
Life Prosecco twelve in the afternoon. Yum yum, yum yum.
It's actually pretty delicious. Let's just take a breath real quick, guys.

(28:04):
I'm just gonna hit my little singing bowl here for you.

Speaker 4 (28:10):
Hm, I just take a deep breath in through your nose.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
Oh, by the way, yesterday I think I saw alien life.
What are you talking about? Yeah, aliens in this guy. Yeah,
so Irie.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
Is on she's playing club volleyball, which, by the way,
I don't if there's any like club parents, listen, But
why didn't y'all tell me this shit is intense? Club
is not, And I shouldn't. You didn't even need to
tell me because I played club, But I was. I
forgot because I was the kid. I was just doing stuff.
I didn't realize how much time my mom spent doing
stuff like driving to tournaments, like spending money on the weekend,

(29:17):
going to a tournament to go like watch me fucking
lose and shit like and then telling you you're still
good me crying because I for sure cried I was
a really bad loser.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
Just annoying.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Like Wow, anyway, I'm really excited about this chapter of
my life. But I was on a club volleyball team
and sometimes they practice in Malibu, which is like a blessing. Actually,
Like when they told me that, I was like, Oh,
that's kind of annoying, but it's not far from me.
I was like, actually, I'm to be great because I
don't have to go all the time, and like sometimes

(29:50):
I can just pop over the beach, which is like
I need to spend more time over there. Anyway, So
last night I dropped her off and then and she
kim went to this beach like I have to take
it to this speach.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
It's called Point Doom. Is a Point Doom?

Speaker 2 (30:08):
Yes, Point Doom, And you like it's kind of like
the beach we like to go to, you know, where
you like drive through the neighborhood and then you like
it's like farther down the same kind of scenario, but
the water like the tide. I went for my birthday.
That's where I went for my birthday, and the tide
was really high, so like I was like basically sitting
on the rocks a little bit of sand. This time
at night, because it was around like seven o'clock. The

(30:29):
tide was so pulled back, like it was like you
don't remember, you know in Costa Rica how you can
like kind of walk really far out like when we're
on the Pacific side to surf, Like how much?

Speaker 3 (30:39):
How far back? Yeah? Like it was like that. I
was like, what the fuck?

Speaker 2 (30:43):
And it was so it was pitch black that I
could even see the moon. It was just like stars.
I just love the beach at night. I feel like
people need to you need to go the beach more
time there. It's like portal shit going on over there.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
Have you been to dark Wiler where could take the fire?

Speaker 2 (31:01):
Yeah? I have, but I think it was even like
eerier because there was no light. It was pitch black.
And so anyway, I'm looking up at the stars and
I'm looking at one and then I'm like is that
a star? And it kind of starts moving and then
it starts really starts moving, but it's like traveling kind
of like like erratically. It's not like like a plane. Okay,

(31:24):
it's I was like, what the fuck do you see that?
He's like, I do see that and then all of
a sudden, it like glides behind a cloud and the
I and like it was.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
Gone, heard you bitch?

Speaker 2 (31:36):
I was like, what the fuck? Then I saw another one.
I'm now, I'm now, I'm fully convinced that like ninety
percent of the stars are not really.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
Stars or just well some of you are satellites. You
can tell which ones are satellite. So because I look generous, no,
I know those ones are usually kind of bright. Yeah, yeah,
like this was I.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
Don't know, this was alien light, like not three autlists
has stopped, but yeah, what is the update on three outlets?
Like what's gonna happen in twenty twenty six or three outlets?

Speaker 3 (32:00):
I think with the same with three at three outlysts
is that it was coming straight towards Earth and now
it's stopped, like directly in front of it or something
like that. It's like we're keeping up. Oh, whatever happened
to that alien blob that was in the container? He
released it yet well.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
He was setting pieces of it.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
In the mail. Yeah, he released it into like in
the Panamanian Creek or something. Was that fake? God? The
Internet is so annoying with its fake news and its
AI and like, why do we even have to figure
this shit out? Why can't people just tell the truth,
Like regular fucking humans? Are you looking at three outlants?

Speaker 2 (32:31):
Yeah, it says in twenty twenty six, the interstellar comet
three I or three one at LISS will remain obs
observable with small telescopes as it moves away from Earth
and towards Jupiter.

Speaker 3 (32:42):
You're lying, it was just right next to Earth. The object,
a rare visitor from outside of our solar system, will
continue to be visible in spring twenty twenty six. How
do you know?

Speaker 5 (32:53):
Right?

Speaker 2 (32:53):
You don't know where it's How fuck do you? Why
am I even looking at this?

Speaker 3 (32:55):
Lies?

Speaker 2 (32:56):
These lies of fucking googles.

Speaker 3 (32:58):
They've been lying to us.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
They're always lying. You can't trust anything. That's why you
have to Literally you gotta have intuition. That's the only
that's what you should be feeding in twenty twenty six,
Literally water it every day, Do fucking exercise, Do all
the exercises day.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
They have lied to us about literally every.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
Cause at this point, like there's just no like it's
it's impossible. You have to listen to your elders and
you have to use your discernment but.

Speaker 3 (33:22):
Then you see, like I think, as black people, there's
kind of an element of knowing that they've lied to us,
and it covered a lot of history and a lot
of truth because as black people, they've done that to us.
But the white people, you guys, they're lying to you too.
Like when I see like stupid ignorant, like maga, like
white people like the person a Trump is so smart,

(33:45):
I'm like, oh my god, you guys. You guys are dumb.
Everybody's dumb, honestly, Like I want everybody to know, if
you listen to our podcast, you're probably not dumb. So
this is for everybody else that doesn't listen to the podcast.
I hate to break it to everybody, but like ninety
eight point nine percent of like the population is dumb.

(34:06):
It's true. It's it has to be true because like
there's certain things that you hope as a like as
human as a collective, that we re for. Like everyone's
just using their intuition and their common sense, but common
sense is not so common. So just beware out of there.
Who you choose to be friends with. You should be
like a friend like filter yet like a questionnaire, like

(34:27):
what do you think about this? Maybe next year, I'm
going to go into my friendships with Like.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
So we're doing for a friend to check in?

Speaker 3 (34:34):
What do you what are your thoughts if Jane goes
to a different country and brings her Bible and that
country did not ask for that Bible or her thoughts?
Should Jane go home or should Jane proceed.

Speaker 6 (34:47):
A?

Speaker 2 (34:48):
Hell?

Speaker 3 (34:48):
Yeah, be hell no, preach Jesus. See, Jane has every
right to be there. Okay, well you only got a
thirty percent of the above. We can't be friends. There
should just be calm. I'm gonna sit out a fucking
survey if we just like, if I meet you, I'm like,
oh my god, you're so cool. Can you just fill
out this survey and then I'll get back to you
about our friendship, about our lunch date? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (35:12):
Are you where? Are you ready?

Speaker 3 (35:13):
Are you ready to cut off your friends? Cut off friends?
I cut off friends right in the beginning, and this
year I remember it just got cut off and I
looked and I'm not missing a goddamn thing. Because I
have a lot of friends, too many. Probably I need
to have more discernment.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
I can use. Yeah you can, Yeah, I think I
I don't think I know in myself that there's no
space for like at this point in my life and
this point in my Yeah, there's no space for people
that are not moving with the compass of love in

(35:50):
that way. Like if that's not if it's about just
yourself and your own interests and not the interest of community. Honestly,
that's the most important to me, because I think it's
really easy to be even me, like, it's very easy
for a human to be indoctrined into just thinking about themselves.

(36:11):
I think that humans innately are a little bit narcissistic
in ways, and so it's easy to tap that that
thing in you. But I think like community from the
beginning of time we've seen is that's when it was
going well, and now we've become so individualistic that I
don't really want to have people around me that are
just like, well, I really needed my my tap, my business,

(36:34):
my taxes, and that's not that.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
Has homeless people are.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
That is what has gotten us here. That is why.
And everyone's like, how.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
Did we get here?

Speaker 2 (36:44):
It's like, because you failed every fucking test, bitch, that's why,
every single one. So yeah, cheers to people that are
in alignment with your I don't.

Speaker 3 (36:57):
Want to say beliefs, but yeah, just your core.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
Values like your pillars. Yeah, your mission statement, like the
energy that you are trying to be in all the
time too, is important. So yeah, did you make any
bad choices this week? Bad mom?

Speaker 6 (37:14):
Not a bad mom, but a bad mom so good.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
I mean, this is not naughty at all. This is
just like, this is mom. Shit. I took my daughter's
phone away. It's still like, by the way, I still
have her.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
Phone, and I I don't know, I just like I
don't need phones. I like, the longer I have it,
the more I feel like I don't need to give
it back.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
No, I'm like, you don't even really need it. Why
would you have a phone? Like I struggle being addicted
to it, So why the fuck would I give you one?
I'm just not it doesn't make any sense. I didn't
get to the phone to begin with. The dad did,
and like now, I had a conversation with the teacher
and she was saying there's some things that she isn't
doing her homework, so it was an excuse to take it.
But just in general, like, you don't need this. You
need to be in an extracurricular activity. You need to

(38:04):
read a fucking book like we're I'm not about to
just because we're here in this time and everybody has
a phone. Because I feel that way. I'm I don't
want her to be traumatized because I took her phone
and everybody else has it. But it's like you're going
to thank me later, right, So no phones for kids
in twenty twenty six. If you had sixteen, you don't
need a phone. I think I might not give it back.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
I mean it's not her I mean her dad pays
the bill, so he might be like, where the fuck
is her phone? But I think I just have to
have a conversation with him because I just don't think.
I think okay. So my bad joys of the week
was assuming that there was like going to be a
bunch of crazy shit on my daughter's phone and thinking
the worst and spiraling before I even had the evidence,
and not to say that that perhaps she deleted some
shit and I didn't see everything. But I think, like

(38:44):
I realized how I caught myself sort of, but I
realized how how I was parented was showing up and
like a lot of distrust, like off the gate when
my daughter hasn't shown me that she's distrustful. Ever, really,
like I really had to think, like has I relied
to me a lot? Like what about iries.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
Making me feel like I don't believe you? You know?

Speaker 2 (39:10):
And I was like, oh no, this is like this
And I think that's also that's come up a lot
over the last few months. Is just like my trust
issues and how I think they're like, uh, I think
they're limited to like romantic relationships or something and my father,
but like and maybe men, but like how it's like
I kind of across the board. It's like everyone can

(39:31):
get this energy. And so yeah, I think my bad
choice of the week was was that was just like
and she and she called me out on it, and
so like she was like, you just don't trust me,
you know, I feel like you don't trust me, And
I was like.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
Not the amusing word.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
No, it's like this behavior is not showing that I
could trust you. But also i'm your parents, so I
need to give me your phone. So like I want
to like find the balance between those things and like
really work on just being able to even communicating with
her better about why I'm where I'm why I'm asking

(40:10):
for certain things because I think I'm parenting too, like
and there still is this element that like because I'm
your parent, that's why that exists. But I think that
I think some of that comes from our parents and
their parents not having the language to explain things. And
I want to get better.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
At the language like for explaining things to her.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
So she is clear about why so that she can be.

Speaker 3 (40:35):
No, it's not like because I'm the parent, I said
so yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
And then so she knows how to express herself too,
and so it makes sense her and like I was
a very like logical person, like if I tell her
and break things down, like she'll get it. So it's
me like I need to I need to really be
able to like have the language.

Speaker 3 (40:49):
For I'm taking your shit because you don't need it
because it's ridiculous and it's addicting and it's not good
for your brain development.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
Yes, that and also other like other I'm sure future
situations that may come up where like I am with
something like where I'm like I trust you, Iri, and
I'm like give me all your shit and let me
look through every single piece of it. I mean, we
were just but it's really not about trust. It's more
so about like they're developing and understanding what safety looks

(41:20):
like and what it means and what's acceptable and what
isn't and unless I'm like safeguarding that and explaining this
is not safe, let me tell you why she might
not know that that's not safe. So to her, she's
like I thought this was normal. No, girl, this shit
ain't normal. The Nigon roadblocks asking for your age ASL
is not normal. That's not what happened that ASL.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
That is so long.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
But like, yeah, bitch, because we were ten on ASL.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
I mean there is so many I know. Lena was
like we were looking at something and she was like
talking about, oh, you're watching, Like I don't know something
about this. She knows everything about the zombiefore Zombie four
characters like in real life. And she's like, oh, so
and so was dating so and so in real life.
And I'm like, how old is he?

Speaker 2 (42:00):
How old is she?

Speaker 3 (42:01):
She's like, yeah, that's weird, right, because it was like
a big age difference. And I was like, yeah, super weird,
super weird. It's like someone's way older than you. Like
that's weird.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
This is your opportunity teachable moment.

Speaker 5 (42:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:12):
I was like, because like the maturity is not there.
So if a guy wants to date you and you're
they're way older, that's super weird. Maybe any all my vocabulary.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
Super se super words.

Speaker 3 (42:25):
I was like really trying to like when she said it,
I was like, yep, weird. I hope she gets it.
I hope I'm really emphasizing the weird.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
I think my mom said this was weird.

Speaker 3 (42:37):
Trying to remember why I know what was weird.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
She just kept saying that word. You know, you can't
get creepy. I was like, I think I said creepy,
but sometimes that you gotta Yeah, creepy is a strong one.
Creepy wrong, illegal, illegal, jail, jail time. That's that's what
the language I'm have to use for Ira. She's so
scared of the police. Please polease, So if you do that,

(43:02):
the police will come.

Speaker 3 (43:04):
You lie to me, the police will come.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:07):
Luna is very like gotta turn the music up too,
lout like turn it down. I'm like, why we're in
the car, Like, I'm your mom, who's gonna get us
in trouble?

Speaker 2 (43:16):
So weird?

Speaker 3 (43:16):
I'm like, what the hell is your problem? Are you
fucking afraid of everything? But then I see my own
like fear in things, and like I've had to tell
myself a lot of times, like you're not in trouble,
like no one's coming to get you, because I'm like
always liken it a little bit. But my mom's like
that a little bit, like fearful, and I'm like, bitch,
what is your problem? Like relax? But then I have it.
It's like innately in me in ways too, and I'm
just like, I don't I don't want to do things

(43:38):
and indulge and have fun and then be like like, bitch,
are you gonna If you're gonna do it, just do it.
If you're gonna have the fun, just do it, because
all the way to go all the way. So I'm
realizing that too, like if you're gonna do it, do
it with guiltless. Do it guiltless and free. Don't be
doing it and then feeling like paranoid about it. If
you're gonna be paranoid about it, just don't fucking do
it to begin with.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
That makes me think of this reel that I saw,
this clip that I saw of share and if you
saw it, but she was it was like not maybe
she's a little bit younger than she is now seventy,
Like did you see the new clip of her where
she's like, what was it for? It was for uh,
uber eats or something or door dash or something. And

(44:19):
then like she's like, take me back to nineteen eighty,
and like she goes back, but she ends up being
in like eighteen eighty and it's like she's dressed in
like her leather outfit with her boots like regular share
but she's like in eighteen eighty.

Speaker 3 (44:31):
And they're like, she's a witch.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
I remember we're talking about like there's the witches of
Hollywood and like older. So they have her on the
steak and she's about to get burnt on the steak,
and anyway you watch it, I think of us saying
that like some of these like old women that like
don't age and are super fab are witches that like
date young men and their I.

Speaker 3 (44:52):
Just watched, uh, what does the movie you watch with
Goldie Han and Death Becomes which reminds me of old
ladies who know who don't want to age, and then
at the end they returned to vampires, but they're hideous.
Because I was like, wow, this is this is where
I'm at, like a rebound to age and they could
go either way, like I could do it with grace
or I'd just be them and it's not good. But

(45:14):
but in this so in this clip of Share, she
was saying someone I think a reporter asked her, like,
what is your like, what's something that you wish you
would have done like more of even in your youth
because she was a little bit older, and she was like,
and you know, Share is known as an icon for
being pretty bold, like even in the seventies and sixties,
she was wearing like these like sexy outfits like her
her belly show it like she was on her comedy

(45:35):
show or her whatever that was, the whatever, the Sunny
and Share show.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
She was taking a lot of risks, especially for a
woman at that time. And she was like, I wish
I would have went harder. Really yeah, and the like.
And they were like, really, that's exactly what they said,
like really like you were you were you went pretty
hard Share, And she's like, no, because there are moments
where even I overthought things or I held back and
like I wish I didn't. I wish I just went
all the way like and I was like, wow, for

(46:01):
someone who's who like we perceives has gone all the
way in some capacity in a lot of ways with
her career, her success, how she shows up in the world,
Like what she says publicly, Yeah, she always she's like,
I wish I would have been even more That's what
she said. I wish I would have been even more bold.

Speaker 3 (46:19):
Well, it's a lesson for women all over the world,
because I think there's always like this uh teeter totter,
that we're like, am I doing too much? Have I
gone too far? Even when you do it and you're
like yeah, and then you're like, you know, like there's
always like a cringe because the backlash because the society
that we live in, there's always like so much background
noise about whether like we're doing like we're doing too much.

(46:39):
But men historically do whatever the fuck they want and
it's fine. So interesting even though I saw that Share
also said she's gonna marry a One. Is that his name?

Speaker 2 (46:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (46:49):
A one girl?

Speaker 2 (46:50):
That's Ace whatever his name is, Amber's baby daddy.

Speaker 3 (46:55):
Maybe realize Amber has been canceled ever since she endorsed Trump.
I haven't heard.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
I mean, I just don't think we're being fed her algorithm.
She's doing just fine over.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
There, She's dumb. She's so dumb. She's very disappointing. I
wish she never started talking so disappointed. It was so
much better when she was quiet, ay and just one
of the glasses. I'll say it all the time, like
she was so much better when she was mute, and
that Kanye didn't let her speak. It's true. I remember
the first time I think I talked about this on
the show.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
The first time I ever heard her talk. I had
no idea because she'd been mute for so long. The
first time I ever heard her talk on an interview,
I was like, oh, oh my god. It was like
not what I was expecting.

Speaker 3 (47:30):
I was like, oh no, but yeah, I wonder how
she feels knowing like her baby daddy's over there living
his best life with Share, Like can you imagine if
your baby daddy like left you and then he went
with Share like the richest, most non aging, most like
iconic and American history, Like, can you imagine if your
baby's over there with Share and your baby daddy like

(47:50):
keep this.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
Maybe she doesn't care, Maybe she's like, yeah, she seems
like she's like cool with pretty much anything except defending
black people. I mean, she's cool with that fucking tattoo
in her forehead. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (48:01):
She looks like she's a bitch that's gonna go for anything.
Remember we saw her in the car in the back
of us. I know we were like, is it a.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
Weird white guy?

Speaker 3 (48:10):
Yeah? In the car? Yeah, poor baby. Yeah, I mean yeah,
I think that's a that's a message to us too.
Like as much as we press push the envelope and
we've been bold, you know, we're always like, was it
too much?

Speaker 2 (48:22):
We go too far?

Speaker 3 (48:23):
And no, if it's the truth, it's the truth. Yeah.
Maybe today's affirmation is twenty twenty six.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
Be bold, be bolder, bitch.

Speaker 3 (48:33):
Be bolder, bitch, be bolder, be bolder bitch. Not just bold,
be bolder. And I'm not talking about Colorado.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
No, although if you want to climb those that's pretty
bold too. Speaking of Colorado, are you gonna are we
gonna go to Are we gonna go? Pull up on
our retreat girls? So our retreat girls are real friends
in real life. So when you come to our retreat,
we create this like a sacred circle that is made.
And I would say, like some retreat girls like are

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like bond really really closely. This might be like the
closest retreat group by and they have.

Speaker 3 (49:07):
Some exit like some people were executing shit in there,
like they are planning their own retreat to Colorado because
they can't wait until the next one.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
They're like, fuck y'all, y'all took too long. Twenty twenty
six when April na, but did you see that itinerary?

Speaker 3 (49:18):
They have an itinerary colors pink and hot pink and
burgundy leather night. I forgot to tell you. One of
them when they were asked, well, I know they One
of them asked me if I wanted to come surprise
the girls and do a performance. I was like, what
are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (49:34):
A performance?

Speaker 3 (49:35):
Performance? Sexy? I was it would be so fun if
you was like, why are you pumping me up like this?
I can just have a vision, Like do were you
were considering it?

Speaker 2 (49:46):
I didn't.

Speaker 3 (49:47):
I consider for like one second.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
I told them I might pull up because I was like,
so are we going to ski?

Speaker 3 (49:52):
You know, me and me less? And I said the said, no,
one wants to do that. That's what I heard. They
were like, no. We decided to take mushrooms to go
to the museum. They're like, if you want to do that,
you can, though I was, I.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
Don't want to miss that day, and I was like, well,
maybe me and we are going to stay extra few
days so that we can get our black girl ski
rocks off.

Speaker 3 (50:05):
I have to ski and like that's all the way
to fucking Colorado and I think the house is like
right next to a lift. Yeah, there's no way. I
mean we might, I told her. I actually told her
I was to look at tickets and then I didn't,
but I need to look at tickets because what the fuck?

Speaker 2 (50:18):
Then I got like, well, how are you gonna have
a retreat without us?

Speaker 3 (50:20):
Why can't wait?

Speaker 2 (50:21):
It's fine now, I love it, I know, I'm just
I'm so happy. I'm so happy that like the women
are bonding like that. That's really the whole purpose of
what we do. That's the purpose of.

Speaker 3 (50:29):
The retreat, so that you know that you have like
a like a set community to connect with after the
shit is over, and you actually have friends you can
reach out to. And the thing is, when you spend
seven days, six days with a group of people, you're
gonna know all their shit, you know, like we share
and like there's intimate moments that like once you've told ten, twelve,
twenty people, you're like, these are the bitches I'm gonna

(50:50):
tell again, Like, yeah, you can follow up with those
people because they've already been in invited into your world in.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
A lot of ways, and they've they've witnessed you however
it is you decided to show up there. So if
that's who you are trying to embody, but you don't
know how to embody that at home, they've already accepted
you that way, do you.

Speaker 3 (51:05):
Know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (51:06):
Like if you're like quiet at home, but like at
the retreat you are a little bit loud, like when
you know when you get there you can show up
as the person that you say you want to be.
So I think that's like also the beauty of it,
because that's what it's That's what I'm witnessing, That's what
that's what it feels like.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
I know we talk about this that, but you have
no idea how often like girls come in one way
and then leave a toll a different way, like right now,
shout out to Toya, she was so quiet And two
things I recognize I guess less because we've done it.
Nineteen times and we lead the retreat, but like there's
such a level of anxiety for some of the women

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that are coming into this space in a foreign country
with people they don't know. And I talked to someone
yesterday from this last retreat in Bali, and she told
me she was like, honestly, I prior to the retreat.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
I did therapy. She told me that to prepare.

Speaker 3 (51:55):
For the retreat so that I would not be in
my head and I wouldn't be in my nerves and
I wouldn't be having anxiety. And I was like, it's
a really good idea.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
Afford it.

Speaker 3 (52:04):
Yeah, sorry, because you're not coming there like trying to
work through all those things you've kind of already had,
Like you've already worked through them a little bit, and
it's not really that anxiety. It's just the idea that's
more like gives you more anxiety than it actually being there,
because as soon as you get there, like it kind
of like slushes off because everyone's so open. But this
one particular person was super like I could tell like

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her her like all her walls were up. She was
just like almost like very like very paranoid about everything
else going on. She's like I can't find my money,
I can't find my bag. I was like in her
room looking through her shit. And then next day was like,
did you find your shit? She's like, I found it.
I hit it for myself. I was high. I was like, girl, like,
I'm like, did we have a thief? What's going?

Speaker 6 (52:43):
Like?

Speaker 3 (52:43):
You know, but like seeing everybody come down into their
nervous system and seeing the transformations that happen is so
powerful and so dope, and like just to see them
stay in that comfortability and say we're going to do
it again and again. It's like it's a really beautiful,
really beautiful thing to be able to like share in
that space and a very intimate level with each other

(53:04):
and like feel trustworthy in that way. So I'm just like,
I'm really grateful for that. One of the girls in
this last Retrea, I don't know if I said this
already said that She's like sometimes when I'm like, in
certain situations, I think, WWJD, what would Jamila do? And
I was like, really, I think that, Like Jesus. She's like, yeah,
do I think about it all the time. I'm like

(53:25):
not being bold enough. I was like, really, that's the
nicest thing anybody ever told me that's beautiful. But it's interesting,
like when you come into an intimate space with people,
you can really channel other people. Sometimes I'm like, let
me even me like this person, or like let me come.
When I walk into a situation, I know it's like
not maybe in my personality, I can just reach for
my like who's your alter ego? What's that alter ego
for you? Exactly? Yeah, And it's necessary, you know, because

(53:47):
sometimes you don't feel like you have the tools, but
you know that one friend that does and you can
even call them. I've called girls like, hey, I need
your advice on this or whatever, because you know that
that's maybe their for their wheelhouse. Yeah. So this is
just to endorsement to make more friends that are in
alignment with you and people that you you know, aspire
to be like because there's medicine there. And if you're

(54:09):
thinking about coming to a Good Vibe retreat in twenty
twenty six, this is your sign because we are running
a New Year's sale for five hundred dollars off, which
is a lot, and you don't want to miss the opportunity.
So don't say we didn't give you a discount. Don't
say we didn't encourage you. Every year we get on
this motherfucking mic and tell you how important it is.
And you know, so take the opportunity, take the discount,

(54:33):
prioritize yourself. Come on all inclusive retreat. You don't have
to think about, worry about anything. You're gonna leave with
friends and you're gonna leave with life changing experiences.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
We have three retreats to choose from Jamaica. If by
the time you hear this it isn't sold out, because
we only have one spot left and that.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
Was two no so e Mommy and Me retreat.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
So if you're like I want to bring this medicine
to me and my child, I want to go to
Costa Rica with my kid and feel all the vibes,
that's that retreat. And then also are of course our
annual women's retreat in Costa Rica. We're working on one
at the end of the year. We're gonna announce that
one soon. But make sure you tap in click the

(55:16):
link of this episode description, use the code what's the
code new new new any w any w new new
for five hundred dollars off till the end of this year.
This is gonna be done January first, and I'm not
discounting this shaite no more beach, this yo lasmafucking time.
But yeah, come I can't. I just like it makes

(55:37):
me so happy. So shout out to I think that
was Retreat eighteen, right, Retreat eighteen for creating another retreat
for y'all in Colorado.

Speaker 3 (55:48):
I might get my dance I might get my dance
moves together, so I could be the surprise.

Speaker 2 (55:52):
Well you're not. They're not gonna be surprised now they're
listening to this. I want to come and hang out
and go to them, go to the mush go to
the museum on mushrooms, and.

Speaker 3 (56:02):
Then everybody, everybody has like a different day they're responsible for.
Did you know that?

Speaker 2 (56:05):
Yeah? I saw.

Speaker 3 (56:06):
I'm like, well this is I love it. You know,
how are you all to be on the team because
it's just me and this bitch and just two of
us were here.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
See that's the thing too, is like you find your
travel your travel crew, and.

Speaker 3 (56:17):
Because you know that they're already willing to travel, you
know who's with the ships, who's not, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
So it's like you find your travel crew, which is
really important because I think a lot of times women
we don't travel because we are waiting for someone to
come with us and we're not in a friend group
that likes to travel. That's not their priority. So get
show us a travel group in twenty twenty.

Speaker 3 (56:37):
Six very important. What was your favorite episode this year?

Speaker 2 (56:47):
I was looking through our catalog this year, and we've
had some really good guests. I don't low you forgot.
It's so hard because we came in hot. We came
in hot like the first few months, so I would
say slum Flower.

Speaker 3 (57:01):
Yeah, she was really good.

Speaker 2 (57:02):
It's definitely one of my favorite episodes. That episode was
called The Mother Wound, and she stove deep and shared
so much about her story and journey with her mother
and cutting her mother off and protecting herself and why
and that that episode is very triggering for a lot
of people, but also resonated with so many people I

(57:25):
didn't realize to have that experience of their mother, and
also like seeing that like recently like coming becoming more
and more people are talking about it more and more,
like the going no contact with a parent because yeah,
I don't know, I just that's not my journey, but

(57:45):
I understand it and listening to it like I wouldn't,
I would end, but I can only imagine how incredibly
painful that that that would.

Speaker 3 (57:54):
Be, well, mourning someone who birthed you, right.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
It's a different type of it's a different you know.
So that one was that on the serious note. I'm
looking you know, Corine Stephans, She's always I just love
her mind and I just love the way. I just
love how calculated that woman is. She is just I
just love she's a storyteller, like she knows how to

(58:19):
draw you in from the very beginning. So if you
haven't listened to that one, that's a two part episode.
Every episode we've ever we had an episode with her
in twenty twenty two, I want to say, and it
was also a two part because once she sits on
this couch, no, it's twenty twenty three, twenty twenty three.
Once she sits on this couch, it's we could sit
and listen to that woman for hours, so we do.

(58:41):
We're like, we know we're not going to see you
for two years, so tell us everything.

Speaker 3 (58:43):
Literally. One of my other well, one of my favorite
guests this year was definitely Parties Founting Amen Lord Fine
Tall Chocolate Tree Chocolate tree. He's just so tall.

Speaker 2 (59:06):
You know, when he walked into the studio, I was
not anticipating that height, nor was I upset. Okay, those
tight jeans, those thick thighs, those big boots, that those
big pearly whites, those what those smile that smiles up.

Speaker 3 (59:20):
To no good like Rich screams Rich, No Columbia American Veneers.

Speaker 2 (59:28):
He paid full price. Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (59:31):
Yeah, I love a chocolate man with like pearly white teeth.
It always reminds me of the Coldest Winter Ripper when
she introduces Midnight to the to the saga. Sorry, I
just went to my junior high horn.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
And he loves his mom and called his mom and
grandma on the show. You guys, if you haven't listened
to that episode, we've had Party Fontaine on the show.
If you don't know who is go look him up.
Go look him up. He's a writer, a rapper. He
ghost writes, and I don't think it's a ghostwriter. He
writes for Cardi B and she's.

Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
Winning right now, go slide into his DMS. We've had
so many good episodes this year. I'm just scrolling.

Speaker 6 (01:00:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:00:06):
I know, it's like I forget because we've had you guys,
we've hit over four hundred episodes in our like two seasons,
three seasons, don't know how many seasons. Our Good Mom's
lifetime twenty twenty six, Good Moms will turn eight, and
we've had over four hundred episodes, which is a pretty
big deal. Yeah, we're executive producers, Okay, writers, talent, make up,

(01:00:26):
and like.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
That's why I like, some of these episodes need to
be ran back, and we did that in November. We
re we re posted older episodes because some of y'all
missed them when we okay, we posted Mel Robins. So
we've had Mel Robbins on the show, right, and that's
she's like a big fucking deal. And we like back then,
I think reels were just getting figured out. She was
like even the way that the clips were shot weren't

(01:00:47):
even like really in real form. But when we do,
you know how many people message me when we posted
Mel Robins, like two weeks ago.

Speaker 3 (01:00:54):
Congratulations you have Robins on the show.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
Oh, it's incredible. I'm like, just two years three years ago,
we have her back on. We need to call her.
But there's just a lot of good, good guests that
we've had on that I've forgotten about.

Speaker 3 (01:01:07):
Also, you know, it was a good episode of Shayla
Shayla Murray, Shayla Marie She'd love her. Yeah, she was
really a good episode. What I don't know it was
gonna be episode. Also, we had like a spicier episode
with four where we get to walk him like a
dog to the liquor store, which is always like something
fun to do. I always like a I like like
a guest that's down for the get down.

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
Yeah, he's definitely down for the get down.

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
So they just wanted to just touch on, you know,
some of our our faves, our faves.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
And also you know what, I think that we should
leave links for them, and like you guys, We're gonna
leave links for you guys so you can hear these
episodes because they're worth listening. You're about to be chilling
in the holiday season. Hopefully you don't have that much
work to do. Those kids are going to be annoying
the fuck out of you.

Speaker 3 (01:01:52):
I'm looking at these episode titles and like, I don't
know if it's We're ridiculous or may slob on my
knob ASMR featuring Lovely Mill.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
Well, yeah, yeah, that makes sense.

Speaker 3 (01:02:04):
Monogamous monster. Oh yeah, what does that even mean? It's
just pretty We're pretty ridiculous black people can Karen too
Oh yeah, Militant Daddy featuring Derek Grace too. Yeah. We
I guess we really know how to name the episode.

(01:02:24):
I'm really proud of this, this, this piece of work.
We do have such a range in our business. So
and we even we even had what was the what's
the girl who got the Jeffrey Epstein girl? Oh, Lisa Phillips, Ye, Lisa,

(01:02:45):
Lisa Phillips was a good episode.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
Lisa Phillips was really great because it's continued. It's like
continuing to unfold as we as time goes.

Speaker 3 (01:02:52):
Yeah. As president, So yeah, we have a lot of
juicy episodes in our catalog that I'm proud of. So
if you were just coming in now, I always go
back to the beginning. Always check what we were doing eight
years ago, because we're pretty much different bitches than when
we started. There's a lot, there's a lot of evolution
that's happened, same but different, the same, same but different.

(01:03:13):
Tarot time, Tarot time. Okay, maybe we should each choose one. Okay,
I got the Ten of Wands reversed, which it looks
pretty intemped. When the ten of wands reverse appears in
a tarot reading, it's often a sign that you're trying

(01:03:35):
to do too much by yourself and your effort to
be everything to everyone. You have found yourself struggling under
the weight of it all. Delegate and share the work
you don't have to do it alone, and be firm
and saying no to the things you know you cannot
take on. It is imperative you put your self care
in personal wellbeing first, otherwise you'll burn yourself out and
be of no help to anyone. It's just like they say,
put on your own oxygen mask first before helping others. Similarly,

(01:03:58):
the ten of wands reverse suggests that you're carrying a
heavy weight on your shoulders, but you're keeping this private
and unwilling to share your burden with others. You may
be grappling with emotional trauma, carrying a dark seeker, or
dwelling with increased responsibilities. However, you do not feel comfortable
sharing this with others by talking about it or asking
for help. In effect, you are pushing away the people
who can help you. It may also be a huge

(01:04:19):
relief to you when you do share some of this
burden with others as they are ready and willing to
support you.

Speaker 5 (01:04:26):
Hm, okay, bag lady this morning. You can't hurt your back.

Speaker 3 (01:04:37):
Take them bags off your back right now. Are you
worrying about matters that do not concern you or cannot
be changed. Do not become a martyr and take on
more than you can realistically handle. This is probably for
like every woman listening right now.

Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
Yeah, it sounds like a overall moving into this next year,
like we can't keep carrying the weight how we've been
carrying it. Our back are fucked one shoulders higher than
the other. It's it's no.

Speaker 3 (01:05:06):
I just realized, like sometimes it's so second nature or
first nature or whatever that when you finally do get
to sit in your own shit, it's like, huh, Like
who am I? What is it that I need? It's
like almost a foreign like it's hard to almost conceptualize
what it is that you actually need because you've been
so removed from it for so long and tapped into
what everybody else needs. So I think that's something important

(01:05:28):
to take into twenty twenty six. It's just not caring
too much and being able to say no, mm hmm, okay,
well I got the world card reversed. We're reading reversed.
I mean I picked it up one reversed and so
I okay.

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
So the world card reversed represents seeking personal closure, shortcuts
and delays. The world reverse suggests that you are seeking
closure on a personal issue. Perhaps you are still emotionally
attached to a past relationship.

Speaker 3 (01:05:55):
And want to move on.

Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
You need to let go of the past to move on.
Fighting closure may be an intensely personal journey, something you
manage through journaling, visualization, energy work, and therapy. The world
reverse can signify that you want to fulfill a big
goal or complete a big project, but you're not taking
all the steps necessary to get there. You may opt
for the easiest or quickest path to attain your goal,
but it won't lead to the outcome you intend. Climbing

(01:06:19):
a mountain from the bottom up is an entirely different
experience from getting a helicopter ride to the peak, even
though the destination is the same. You need to experience
the trials and tribulations along the way so you can
learn and grow, and when you do reach your goal,
you enjoy such a fantastic sense of achievement. Don't be
afraid to set stretch goals for yourself, even if it

(01:06:40):
means during hardships or challenges along the way, it will
make the victory even sweeter the world. Reverse can also
indicate a time when you are close to finishing a
project or goal, but forever whatever reason, you lose focus
and lack and slack off. Right at the end, you
only have a short way to go, So why stop now?
Re energy and remind yourself how wonderful life will be

(01:07:02):
when you get the thing.

Speaker 3 (01:07:03):
You wanted for so long? The result there you go,
focus on the results.

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
Completion, completion, Yes, completion energy. I'm bringing that into twenty
twenty six to two.

Speaker 3 (01:07:16):
That's so interesting. I think sometimes people get so caught
up on like the journey that it blurs the outcome,
and so it's hard to manifest that way. But it's
definitely necessary to manifest backwards. How do I feel and
the like the end result? What do I feel when
I like get this love that I've manifested, but I
feel I get the job that I've manifested. I'm gonna

(01:07:36):
We're gonna be the perks of that job. How is
that going to feel And I think sometimes that is
like we think about step one instead of step ten,
and like you get to think of step ten in
order to start moving towards it and to like understand
you deserve it and you're worthy of it, and that
like it's a realistic, obtainable goal. Yeah, you have to

(01:07:57):
see it and it's completion for sure. I think that's
even in business too, like working backwards, Yeah, what do
I want?

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:08:06):
What would I want? What's the number?

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
I want to feel good? Okay, working backwards? From that place,
you can apply that also to your life.

Speaker 3 (01:08:14):
Amen? Aha, Amen? Any final closing words for twenty twenty five.
It's our last, absolute last episode of twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (01:08:28):
Well, let's just I want to take a hit. Where's
the joint if we rolling? No, we haven't smoked this
whole time.

Speaker 3 (01:08:34):
No, what the fuck? Yeah you're supposed to.

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
Oh my god, I feel like we have to roll
a joint for twenty twenty five.

Speaker 3 (01:08:40):
There's papers right there.

Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
Oh my goodness, here you sage, sage, just down like
the sage. We're clearing the energies.

Speaker 3 (01:08:53):
Clear the energy for twenty twenty five because it's the funeral. Yes,
We're clearing this funeral energy. We're laying her to rest,
open a window, cleansing the set, cleansing the good Mom's

(01:09:18):
sign f new energy next year.

Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
You know, we are playing to rest. Any versions of
ourselves that our higher self does.

Speaker 3 (01:09:30):
Not approve of.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
Our higher self is called ring ring bitch, You're not invited.
You're not invited to twenty twenty six, lovey love your
higher self. We're putting away any fears. We're death to fears,
death to distrust, and bringing light into understanding our wants,

(01:09:53):
our needs, our desires, listening to our bodies, coming into
practice with our bodies, taking more mushrooms.

Speaker 3 (01:10:02):
Thinking about Orlando went out of town this weekend, like
right now, like you just left at very moment. Yeah,
And I was actually really pissed because he did invite
me to his annual friend Christmas fucking sore away or
whatever the fuck. And I'm still mad. I also realize
I don't get over things easily. I can hold onto

(01:10:22):
some shit like I could be fine, but in my
back of my mind, I'm like, fuck you probably not healthy.
But I was, like I always say this every time
he goes out of town. I'm like, do I need
to do mushrooms alone. But one of the last times
I did mushrooms like a full dose with Orlando. Have
you ever experienced like sleep paralysis? And there's a couple

(01:10:45):
like sometimes it's happens to me where I can like
lay down but my mind is still up and I
want to move, but I can't move my body, and
I like am kind of panicking, like move, move, but
I can't. So then I remembered that, and I was like,
do I need to do mushrooms alone? What if I
get like stuck? But I guess I'll I'll get unstuck eventually.

(01:11:05):
That I was thinking about doing mushrooms by myself in
my house, but then like, when I think about it,
sounds kind of scary, But then I also feel like
it's kind of necessary before the new year.

Speaker 5 (01:11:14):
But do it.

Speaker 3 (01:11:15):
Something's telling you to do it. Yeah, and you even
if you do.

Speaker 2 (01:11:19):
Get this paralysis, you'll be able to save yourself.

Speaker 3 (01:11:22):
True, you know, Siri, call call somebody. So maybe I'll
do that tonight tonight. Maybe oh fuck it, Yeah, go
for it. I means either tonight or tomorrow or some
I ripped it. Maybe I have to cut this. I
get a mini Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
I started taking mushrooms more recently like the tea, and
I wanted to start microdosing more often going into this
next year. And I feel like because I've been very
heady in my lately and I just felt like I
need to get in my body. And it's been good.

Speaker 3 (01:12:06):
It's been cool.

Speaker 2 (01:12:07):
You've been taken every day. I just started like two
days ago with a tea which one that that one
we have I low, it's very low dose.

Speaker 3 (01:12:16):
I feel so torn because every time I try to
take a micro dose, you know, it's not so micro
And then Aaron said that I should do it the
first time. I hard.

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
I took the first time that I took it, which
was two days ago, I felt that way, and then
I did yesterday I took it and I felt better.
I felt a little bit better. So I do think
it is like a level of your body getting familiarizing
itself with the medicine again because we've if you. Yeah,
it's like it has to be like kind of reintegrated.

Speaker 3 (01:12:48):
I also feel like, probably I get I have a
big reaction because I do. I don't avoid it, but
I really do wait until there's like we've really planned
it we're in Joshua Tree now we're doing the full dose.
Like it's not I know that there's a level of
psilocybin that is work, it's therapy. It's not all fun
and games, and there's like a level of like events.
Am I ready for that? Do I need that right now?

(01:13:09):
And there's an avoidance a little bit, but I mean overall,
it's not like it's not a medicine that I'm scared of.
It's just like, am I ready for that right now?
And then like I've never done it alone? And but
I have so many I have so much mushrooms at
my fucking house. Do mushrooms go back? The dry ones
become less potent and crunchy and gross? Like you can
make tea though, right?

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
Yeah, I just don't know if it would be.

Speaker 3 (01:13:31):
I mean, I don't know. I'm not them. I don't know.
That's so much mushrooms of my house. Well, bring them over,
because you know I have a mushroom party. Yeah, I
was gonna tell you I can bring some too. We
can also order some. Oh you got some. That's why
I just had the mushroom man deliver mushrooms to me
today here at the studio seeing the mushroom Man, the
mushroom Man, the mushroom.

Speaker 2 (01:13:50):
Man, Tuck heavy with the Instagram, solely Magic, solely with y,
solely Magic. So go check out solely Magic. If you
need some mushrooms from a fine ass black man. And
that makes good chocolate mushrooms. That is a good person,
so you know, energetically and he makes them think he
hand makes them, so you know. I think it's important
who handles your medicine as well, So make sure your

(01:14:12):
medicine is being handled by someone you trust.

Speaker 3 (01:14:15):
And then I wonder why I always get random text
me like DMS like, hey, do you have a mission plug? Hey,
I'm in so and so do you have I'm like,
am I a drug dealer on the internet?

Speaker 5 (01:14:24):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:14:24):
I have a question though, guys, if you're listening, does
anybody because we're gonna do our research. But actually, never mind,
I can't even say it here because that's going to
ruin the surprise.

Speaker 3 (01:14:35):
Never mind, forget it that surprise.

Speaker 2 (01:14:38):
Oh I know to see if Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:14:40):
You don't need to look any further.

Speaker 2 (01:14:42):
Okay, right, we got it, We got this.

Speaker 3 (01:14:43):
We can handle this ourselves. Have you seen the fifty
cent do about PDD?

Speaker 2 (01:14:49):
Yes? I'm watching it, I'm like, it's so long.

Speaker 3 (01:14:52):
I'm like, I didn't. I keep falling asleep.

Speaker 2 (01:14:54):
It parts and I wake up and it's so.

Speaker 3 (01:14:55):
Happening, and I think, like so many episodes.

Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
I feel there's only four episodes, but I think each
episode must be like two hours, no, one hour.

Speaker 6 (01:15:02):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
I don't know, unless my attention span is that low
that I can't focus for more than one hour.

Speaker 3 (01:15:08):
But it's depressing. There's that.

Speaker 2 (01:15:09):
Yeah, I started twitch thinking about it.

Speaker 3 (01:15:17):
What I will say is like, I'm not a huge
fifty sent fan because I think he's a cancer. That
is sad. But what I will say is he's definitely
not lying like Diddy everything he said about Diddy as
far as wanting to be the star and feeling deeply
insecure and so he'll off people and just do anything

(01:15:39):
to be the spotlight, even though he can't wrap and
he's not even a really good dancer. When I saw him,
come did you go out to the park where he
comes out and does like the tribute to Biggie, Okay,
with having that.

Speaker 2 (01:15:49):
Different lens made it seems crazy. It's great he came
out with his fucking you know, a little dancing does dance, bitch,
But now that dance feels different because that dance is
always not I mean, it's always been funny to me,
it's not right now, I'm like, it's like psychopathic to me.

Speaker 3 (01:16:06):
Now when I look at it, I'm like, what the fuck? Asath?
He is definitely and and you just see you can
see it in his eyes, there's a darkness. And also
like he's been infamous in the industry for fucking his artists.

Speaker 2 (01:16:19):
Well not well, this is just like I think he's
a human that has been like groomed too as a child,
with which she also shed light onto, like about his
mom like always dressing him up. And he's like kind
of like a drug dealer even though that wasn't his life,
you know, And so like he's trying to like live
up to the persona of these people that he's supposed

(01:16:40):
to admire. And how that just that like perhaps at
that point in his life, if we can like take
a screenshot like he was still he's pure, right, And
how something can sour so severely with like constant poison, praise,
poison and praise, poison and praise and then just like
an ego, Well then yeah, and then that ego.

Speaker 3 (01:16:59):
Deep insecure paired with ego, paired with money, paired with penis.

Speaker 2 (01:17:03):
Well, the poison is the ego.

Speaker 3 (01:17:04):
It's not good.

Speaker 2 (01:17:05):
And then people praise you, so like that's where those
the level ten narcissists are birthed.

Speaker 3 (01:17:09):
But but praise without praise with insecurity is a terrible
combination when you're deeply insecure and then people are feeding
like this false sense of who you are because probably
that part of him is not authentic. So you're still
deeply insecure, but now you're getting money and praise on
top of it, which is giving you this god complex.
It's like you like, no matter how much people praise

(01:17:30):
you and pour into you and pray, like, you're never
gonna truly feel good about yourself. And so there's a
like a bottomless pit of consuming of things and money
and people that are expendable, and like that you create
this god complex and then it creates Ditty. It's sad.

Speaker 2 (01:17:49):
And then his children too, like his son, his oldest son,
I would guess, would try is the oldest Custin Mesa.

Speaker 3 (01:18:00):
Yeah, really, we don't really hear from him.

Speaker 2 (01:18:02):
No, he's with him all the time. He's the one
who was like the studio when that shooting thing happened,
and they said that he was involved in that. He
was also they also basically said they were like Diddy
and him would be with like same bitches in the
same room.

Speaker 3 (01:18:13):
Like that's you say, is that really his son? They
don't really look much alike. They always try to say
that he's the security son. I mean, who fucking knows.
That's because that other son right after him looks just
the fuck like him.

Speaker 2 (01:18:24):
Yeah, but also his mom kind of they kind of
look alike too.

Speaker 3 (01:18:28):
Did look like But also, what's up with Quincy? Why
would you? Why are you like disowning your own father
to be with, Like that's weird because.

Speaker 2 (01:18:38):
He's paid and his dad is and his dad's kind
of broke, I think now because he pulled him down.
But like that to me as a man, his dad
wasn't there for him. His dad was not in his life.
He was not a good father.

Speaker 3 (01:18:50):
Wasn't because Diddy was all in the video. No, it's
because I think he had I think he had a
drug problem.

Speaker 2 (01:18:55):
Was the drinking problem.

Speaker 3 (01:18:58):
Yeah, So Diddy was his dad, but I think when
it was time for him, I think he I think
did he also puts some extras on it, Like I
think he probably got something out of saying, like your
son's mind now even when because he's been clean, like
he's been clean, I'll be sure.

Speaker 2 (01:19:15):
I mean, we don't know what kind of damage that
did to that their relationship and with what that means,
you know, and also the power of money and the
power of like and also if you're vulnerable and you
do need a fatherly influence, and this is the best
one you got, Like you're gonna go. This one's pretty good.
This one's going to santral Pe every summer, you know
what I mean, Like kick Nigga, why he's down, Like

(01:19:36):
I'm gonna choose a daddy, I'm an choose Diddy.

Speaker 3 (01:19:41):
I don't know. I mean, oh my god, Massa all
a mess. But then I know I was thinking, like
the crazy part about him being Diddy. None of the
kids who all it's like all attempted to have music
careers ever did anything. Is there a level of I'm
the only star in this family? I mean, it was
giving that he just yeah, you know, we should have

(01:20:03):
known when he put himself in dirty money Nigga, why
are you in dirty money?

Speaker 2 (01:20:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:20:08):
Yeah, like not talking about shit. Why but who told
him to put himself in dirty money?

Speaker 6 (01:20:14):
Why?

Speaker 3 (01:20:15):
Oh my god, it was too good. And then Aubrey
do you see her testimony?

Speaker 2 (01:20:21):
Yeah, that message that she got, that message that she
got from someone about her. There is her assault, their assault,
the assault of him. No what they're saying, Oh god,
I don't even know if I should share it on here.
It's like pretty basically like some woman that she knows,
basically throw in saying that that she doesn't even know
this woman like wrote in a testimony saying that she

(01:20:41):
saw Diddy and his security guard assaulting her when she
was passed out on the couch and that she's one
hundred percent sure it was Aubrey. And Aubrey was on
the documentary said I have I have this, I've read it,
but like I have no I have no memory of
this moment. And she's like, I just want to be
done with this, but like, I have no memory of
this moment that I missed that part.

Speaker 3 (01:21:03):
Yeah, I don't know it was there.

Speaker 2 (01:21:05):
It was dark.

Speaker 3 (01:21:06):
I think that's what I was like, all right, I
need to turn this off watching did clean? Why did
you do? I mean, I guess there's something you could
do because it's two grown ass men. I mean, he
has so many sexual assault cases pending.

Speaker 2 (01:21:18):
That's what. You know what Curtis Jackson is petty because
at the have you noticed at the beginning and end
of every single episode he puts the same shit that
Diddy was accused of sex trafficking, Like he puts it
at the beginning just in case you forgot the episode.

Speaker 3 (01:21:33):
It is necessary for you to have context going into
each other's well, hopefully you've been watching the whole scene.
You gotta put on every episode exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:21:40):
And apparently he went.

Speaker 3 (01:21:42):
One of the only interviews he did was on ABC
because they showed in jail. I didn't think about that,
but because it's actually it's it's TV, it's like basic cable.

Speaker 2 (01:21:54):
He said, I'm gonna go on this one.

Speaker 3 (01:21:55):
You get one, no streaming. I'm gonna go on the
regular daytime ABC News because I know they're playing it
in the fucking wreck room. That's worse. You know, this
brings me to and I'm not to say that women
they're not like women monsters, but men, men going unchecked,

(01:22:17):
like paired with patriarchy and just like honestly the ability
to get away with it is like it really has
created some monsters, and like we got a lot of
we got a a lot of like pushback or whatever.
I don't have the criticism when current Stefan's was on
the show this year and said that for women, men
are the apex predator, yeah, like absolutely, But there were

(01:22:39):
so many people who were like, like men who are
offended by that, And I think that is the problem.

Speaker 2 (01:22:44):
I realized this is my I realized.

Speaker 3 (01:22:45):
Like, this is my thing about making bold statements or
saying stuff like marry the whore or like, you know,
like being extreme ish is because I think like, if
there is not a basic understanding as a man that
men have gotten away with some crazy fuck shit and
continue to have like uh, like are judged on a

(01:23:07):
completely different standard than women. If you don't have as
a man, if you don't take, if you don't take
acknowledgment for the privilege that you have, I can't trust
you if you don't know that men have just like
have have abused women historically on a large scale. Like
if you don't just agree with the basic facts of

(01:23:27):
that and you don't know that and you're like not
all man, then I have to watch you.

Speaker 2 (01:23:31):
You know what I mean, your friendship survey. Yeah, the
perfect one to.

Speaker 3 (01:23:36):
Add, because you know why. I also sometimes I'll meet
men like just on some friendly shit and like talk
to them and they seem really smart and they seem
like they're healing and they're spiritual. And then they're like, yeah,
but like my yeah, I do like believe in multiple women,
but like my women, I'm the only man. And then
I'm like, oh, but you're stupid, Like yeah, like I've
been so disappointed.

Speaker 2 (01:23:56):
Like maybe just got to start off the gate. I
have a few questions before we continue this conversation.

Speaker 3 (01:24:01):
Right, because I feel like I get so disappointing when
I think there's a smart man, but then he goes
down and like in the depths of his conversation there's
still some like misogyny, you know, and I'd like that
really disappoints me. But I think men are the problem.
I mean we are too, because we fed into a
lot of these stereotypes and like the fragile male ego.

(01:24:22):
Humans are the problem. Oh god, I hope I'm an alien.

Speaker 2 (01:24:27):
I told you, bitch, those aliens are close. But I
saw those aliens last night at the beach. Literally that's
what the message I got, And I was.

Speaker 3 (01:24:33):
Like, whow, they're close. They've been close. They right into
the water.

Speaker 2 (01:24:36):
I mean they're on the ground too, they're here. But like,
I just I know that that's what it was. That
was not a fucking satellite. That was some other extraterrestrial
shit that I saw. And we've probably been.

Speaker 3 (01:24:45):
Did you check the did you check the like around
those dates that you're there? Did you check like any news?
It was yesterday? Oh? Yeah, Like you should check online,
just Google, like UFO spotting Malibu or something Monday or
whatever date is there's day eight o'clock or whatever, just
to see because sometimes you'd be surprised when people report
things Malibu serious. UFO based off Malibu vanishes from Google Earth. No,

(01:25:13):
this is August.

Speaker 2 (01:25:13):
Oh, surf cam captures possible UFO sighting and socow off Malibu.

Speaker 3 (01:25:20):
Is it yesterday?

Speaker 2 (01:25:21):
This is December fourth?

Speaker 3 (01:25:23):
I mean they're all around us.

Speaker 2 (01:25:24):
Yeah, it's December right now.

Speaker 3 (01:25:27):
Oh, they're still hanging out and I saw what I saw.

Speaker 2 (01:25:31):
Has anyone else in Aliens? I know, I know somebody
else seen Aliens's cool. Look up, look up more often.
I think we just don't look up enough.

Speaker 3 (01:25:39):
There's a documentary. Actually, I've been wanting to watch it
with Luna my dad. When I was little, I watched
so much like UFO stuff. This is why I am
the way I am. I've watched so much Black Power
stuff and UFO stuff and also things like The Godfather.
But there's a movie on Netflix. I've looked at what
it's called, but there's a there's a UFO sighting and

(01:26:02):
I want to say, South Africa. Is that a school?
And it just so happened that all the faculty at
that time was like had left the area and all
the kids, I want to say that between like seven
and eight all report back seeing all the same things
and getting the same exact messages. And they were all
like interviewed separately, and there's like basically like they came

(01:26:22):
out told them the message, and the message was they
had images of like that the technology that we start
to indulge in is what's going to be the end
of also be the end of us. Of course it
is pollution. They'd like all talked about pollution. It was
really interesting. So now I got to watch it because
it's about kids and they said that they come to
people that they don't have like the purest minds.

Speaker 1 (01:26:44):
What is this?

Speaker 3 (01:26:44):
What is it called? I don't know, let me look
it up.

Speaker 2 (01:26:46):
Documentary South Africa, Aliens South Africa, UFO documentary.

Speaker 3 (01:26:54):
Eye service is bad anyway? District not no.

Speaker 2 (01:27:06):
Hi now, Yeah, we're hi. Thanks for joining us. I
hope you guys really. I hope you guys really have
a beautiful holiday and that you're easing into twenty twenty six.
I'm so excited to do more podcasting and more talking
and sharing and opening up of our community in twenty

(01:27:26):
twenty six and growing and evolving and expanding in our
relationship and our friendship and watching our kids grow up
and being present in the most easeful, spacious way.

Speaker 3 (01:27:41):
And I hope that for you. And I'm high as
hell now. So that's all I got. Please, if you're
watching this, if you're listening, please leave every review and
please tell us what you want to see or hear
more of next year. Yeah. You know, we've been doing
this for eight years. It's just two of us, two
brains back and forth having ideas and things. But it

(01:28:03):
would be really nice if you know, if you're on
a discord, if you're not on discord during Patreon, so
you can be in our discord. We're talking a lot
over there, but we want feedback and we tend to
lean into our community, So call of it. Texta bitch,
let us know what do you want to see and
hear from? And like, who do you want to hear from?
With guests, I love you. I'm deeply grateful for everyone

(01:28:25):
who has discovered us and followed us and stayed on
the on the airwaves with us. It's a blessing to
be able to do this for eight years almost And yeah,
I love you guys.

Speaker 1 (01:28:37):
Please, Yeah, I'm live, been so good.

Speaker 3 (01:28:40):
Can't you tell?

Speaker 6 (01:28:41):
I went through a drought?

Speaker 3 (01:28:42):
That's it till I found out?

Speaker 2 (01:28:43):
Well?

Speaker 3 (01:28:44):
May my have been known?

Speaker 2 (01:28:45):
Art?

Speaker 6 (01:28:45):
I used to be broken tail now got the blues,
dancing might Beyonce Jisell, throat shot with popping. It's cowering
our voices, patriarchy, ketch it in the bus to exploit us.

Speaker 2 (01:28:54):
Women put the p and powers, So what's pointing?

Speaker 3 (01:28:57):
And they want me to be good?

Speaker 1 (01:28:58):
So I made bad choices.

Speaker 6 (01:29:00):
Bad mom, not a bad mom, but a bad mom.
It's in on for cannabis in ther backbone, walked in
Boston's cap and I blew his cat boss hot Dog.
Now I'm immune to the cat called Herbie in the
waisted straight to it like a dollar sign.

Speaker 3 (01:29:13):
Mother, rent the lover when too.

Speaker 2 (01:29:14):
It's like a water sign where you're.

Speaker 6 (01:29:16):
Rent the winter essential will when the summertime.

Speaker 3 (01:29:18):
I do it all. Ain't know one that needs to
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