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September 24, 2025 81 mins

This week, Good Moms unpack the mix of gratitude and outrage that comes with living in the U.S. right now. The ladies debate male + female friendships, confess childhood traumas that resulted in jealousy triggers, the thin line between pretty privilege and “pretty punishment”, and how new moms can still get that BAG! 

Timestamps:

  • (02:15) Collective breath & why America feels like “four years in ten months”
  • (11:40) Jimmy Kimmel
  • (21:05) Passport fears, censorship, and prepping for worst-case scenarios
  • (28:30) Gun laws, self-protection, and Milah’s “everyone should carry” take
  • (34:50) Male best friends, fake “sis” energy, and testing relationship trust
  • (52:23) Bad Choice of the Week: secret Cash App confessions
  • (1:05:12) Cardi B’s pregnancy reveal + the grind mindset inspired by grandmothers
  • (1:21:48) Pretty privilege vs. pretty punishment, colorism, and ageism in dating and entertainment
  • (1:44:10) Non-toxic nail care: press-ons, glue hacks, and the $20 manicure debate

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Once upon a time there was a good old traditional housewife,
and she couldn't.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
She cleaned and cared for her children and the man
of the house, and of course she didn't talk back.

Speaker 3 (00:09):
She was both obedient and.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
Soft by nature.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
She was a good woman who always made good choices.
That shit, we're good mom's bad choices.

Speaker 4 (00:18):
Who single mom who said fuck the patriarchy, shared all
their bad choices and.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Sound out they were so bad.

Speaker 4 (00:23):
After all, we're experts, overshares and your new besties.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
Sit back and enjoy the ride. I can do it.

Speaker 4 (00:32):
Welcome back to good Mom's Bad Choices.

Speaker 5 (00:34):
I'm Erica and I'm Mela.

Speaker 4 (00:36):
Happy Humpday, bitches, Happy motherfucking hump day.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
What is happening in the world, guys.

Speaker 4 (00:43):
So much is happening in the world.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Were just like, let's just take a second. Let's just
take a second. Let's just take a collective deep breath. Okay,
I'm gonna hit my sound bowl.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
If you're watching this on YouTube, if you're listening, I'm
gonna give you five seconds to get your shit together
or not, but no, just yeah, just get your shit
together for one second. Regulate your nervous system, take a
few deep breaths.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
Let's do that two more times.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
Last time, let's hold at the top, release the sounds,
because there's a lot of shit going on on the inside,
and sometimes you gotta let that shit out with sound
and breath and fuck it. Yeah, today's been quite a

(01:46):
week in America today, Today's been quite a week in America.
And if you've been in America the last ten ten
almost ten months, it's Giving four Giving four years, and
uh yeah, I'm sending everybody love who is living here
domestically in good old America, and I'm telling everybody who's

(02:09):
listening abroad, congratulations. I wish I was you. Yeah, come
get me. Actually I was about me help well.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
I was talking to my friend who lives in Berlin.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
I was like, you're so lucky because he left America
ten years ago.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
He moved around ten years ago. And I was like,
you're so lucky that you live in Berlin. He's like, no,
it's it's bad here, really well it's Germany.

Speaker 5 (02:32):
But you know what I've heard about Germany.

Speaker 4 (02:34):
I heard about I heard that post post Holocaust, that
Germany was really really really really really really good at
like talking about what happened, so that it would never
happen again. Like they really really pride themselves and discussing
and like memory, like memorializing all the things negative that

(02:57):
happened in the Holocaust so that it literally doesn't happen again.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
But that's what I heard. I've never been in Germany.
If you're black anywhere, Okay, the Holocaust hasn't applied here.

Speaker 5 (03:06):
Okay, so it doesn't apply to black people. So they
so the prejudice.

Speaker 4 (03:11):
And then there's like a huge rise of neo Nazism
in Germany that's been happening for at least fifteen years.
Oh oh, okay, okay, yeah, so there's a neo there's
a there's subculture neo Nazis there.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
There's just like here.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yeah, but except Nazis were created. There're going hard out there.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
I you know, this is gonna sound fucked up, but
I need to. I want to know what's going on
in other places bad because I've just been so compared traumas.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yeah, I do, that's trauma bond with other countries.

Speaker 4 (03:37):
I just I'm under the impression of the black people
are just skipping and happy in other countries, and I mean,
I know that's not true. Globally, there's racism just on
a global level against black people that's always existed.

Speaker 5 (03:48):
But I was just based on the shit that's going
on here.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
I was like, I mean, yeah, I mean here is
pretty intense. And the other day this does not just
sound dark, but no reasons.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
We're going dark.

Speaker 5 (04:00):
I don't think we cannot sooin dark.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
I was. I just got back from New York.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
I was in New York for New York Fashion Week
and I was walking around Brooklyn and I just woke
up in the morning feeling really good, and I was
walking around and I was like, damn, I need to
really appreciate this environment, like just looking around and like
there's no buildings crumbling, and there's the trees are still
standing and people have free will. Like even though America

(04:26):
feels really scary right now, we're still safe ish.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Like I'm oo, well, no, but I'm thinking like when
you wake up in Gaza and you're looking around and
everything is crumbled to pieces, Like it's little things like
just appreciating that your neighborhood is still is still standing
that we take for granted, and so like when I
was looking at it from that lens, like everything literally
just seemed brighter. I felt lighter, and I feel like, unfortunately,

(04:52):
like the internet, the news, just the reality of what's
happening is meant to put us in such fear and
put us in in such chaos mentally and worry and
submission that sometimes you just need to just take a
second and just appreciate the things that are present in
this moment, which was I'm walking in Brooklyn. I don't

(05:14):
have there's no army blockades on the corner. There's people
with headphones on just walking stick like they don't feel
in danger, you know, Like it's just little things like
that that I was like, oh my god, okay, because overall,
like every time I open up my phone, it's it's stressful,

(05:34):
you know. So if you're listening, just be grateful for
the moment right now, because we don't know what the
future holds, you know, like there's no there's no telling
what happens in our future in America. You know what
America looks like next year, in ten years, So just
be happy that you can go outside and not be

(06:00):
scared that you know a bomb is going to fall
on you. I mean, obviously there's other fears, you know,
as being black in America, but like proportionally between what's
happening in other parts of the world and here we're doing.

Speaker 4 (06:14):
Okay, Yeah, I think overall, gratitude is going to always compel.
I mean just the intense violence that we're experiencing, and yeah,
gratitude and gratefulness and giving thanks and also just acknowledging
when we're complaining about first world problems, because that happens
a lot, and we get caught up in our own
shit and just living like right here, just right here,

(06:35):
in our existence and not looking at the greater scope,
which we've had the great privilege of privilege of for.

Speaker 5 (06:41):
A long time in America.

Speaker 4 (06:42):
I mean, obviously being black in America and globally has
its specific set of experiences. But yeah, as far as
like just blatant genocide right now is not our reality,
which is a blessing. And yeah, I think I've even
had to like just get off the Internet, the delete

(07:05):
the shit that I can't control, and just kind of
not cocoon but be clear about what I am taking in,
you know, because I don't think we're supposed to have
access to every single piece of information globally worldwide simultaneously.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
All the time.

Speaker 4 (07:22):
There was a time where you only got the fucking
newspaper and that was a fucking twenty mile radius, and.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
That was probably really nice.

Speaker 4 (07:29):
But now we're hearing about little Johnny and fucking Antarctica and.

Speaker 5 (07:33):
Wherever, everybody everywhere.

Speaker 4 (07:34):
We know all of the issues all the time, and
it's overwhelming. And like I've said this before, we're not
supposed to be streaming on so many channels as the
human brain, but here we are.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
Here, we are.

Speaker 4 (07:48):
Being very calculated about what we say, just in case
we don't have a job.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
Yeah, I really.

Speaker 4 (07:55):
Consider that because I know everybody's been on the internet.
It's no avoiding it. But like me, Kimball, who's been
on the who's been on the air for twenty fucking years,
I was actually on Jimmy Kimball, kim Kimble. I was
calling him Kimball for twenty years, Jimmy Kimmel. When I
was in high school. One time, me and Danielle were
walking down Melrose and these cameras stopped. I'm like, do
you want to you? Can you comment on current events?

Speaker 5 (08:18):
I wonder if I've tried.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
To find that you're part of Jimmy Kimble history.

Speaker 5 (08:21):
I am. That's why I'm speaking on it. I was
on Jimmy Kimball.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
Kim Kimmel When when what year was this? Can we
source it?

Speaker 4 (08:27):
I tried to look at that, but it had to
be like two thousand and six, like my senior year
of high school and me and you were walking down
the street and like it was like a prank and
they're like, can you report on some and breaking news?
And we're like okay, and we're just standing on the
corner like waiting, and I'm like, can we know what
it is?

Speaker 3 (08:42):
First?

Speaker 4 (08:42):
You're like no, it's breaking and we're like okay, and
they're like okay, oh wow, all right. We just saw
there's footage of Whitney Houston. She's an Alaska on a
boat and she's been batting baby seals.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
What do you think about this batting? Like hitting them
with a bat?

Speaker 5 (09:02):
Yeah, this is what they said.

Speaker 4 (09:03):
So me and my friend were on like on the
streets and we're like it's really sad, but we're like
she was an icon. I think it was like when
she was really in like a deep, not so good place,
and we're like trying to be serious, and in my
head I'm like, is this real and I was like.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
It's really sad.

Speaker 4 (09:19):
And I was like, she has an icon and just
just to see her trajectory, it was very And then
at that they told this is a lie. But anyway,
all that to say, you really.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
Why would they fucking disrespect Whitney like this?

Speaker 5 (09:31):
Why How did I get involved?

Speaker 6 (09:33):
Why?

Speaker 4 (09:33):
I don't know, But the point is I was in
the twenty year span of Jimmy Kimmel. I was in it,
and please somebody find the footages.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
I looked it up yesterday. I tried to find it.

Speaker 4 (09:42):
I was like, I was like Jimmy Kimble batting baby
seal spray find it, but I'm gonna I'm gonna look
for it. But yeah, we're in a really scary place
where we are. It's being considered by law that if
you speak against the regiment, that the regime is what you.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
Call it, the regime, the regime, the regiment.

Speaker 4 (10:04):
The regiment am I, then you could have like legal
repercussions like them taking your passport. And you definitely can't
say the sea word.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
And because people.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
Would call me today like should we talk about the
sea word? I was like the sea word. She's like
semerk the c K word.

Speaker 4 (10:26):
So, yeah, I mean, we're we're in weird times and
it's scary, and it's really scary. I feel like because
I'm not really a gray area bitch.

Speaker 5 (10:35):
I'm not a neutral bitch.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
I like I'm very black or white.

Speaker 4 (10:38):
I never ever have been like somebody to censor what
I'm saying for the comfort of someone else, especially when
it's like human rights and fucking blatant common sense and
like love and just so it's just such a weird
time to even consider that this is the reality of America,
the home with democracy, which we all know it's not

(11:01):
very true. But anyway, I was listening to keep our
jobs and keep it, keep it censored.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Yeah, it's it's just scary time. Especially this space of
podcasting has been like the wild wild West.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
It's the most uncensored space.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Yeah, and like it's been such a beautiful And that's
another thing, like appreciating what we have in this moment,
right Like appreciating that I have been able to, we
have been able to for the last almost eight years
speak completely freely, unedited, like we don't edit shit, y'all,
and say whatever the fuck comes to our brain. Sometimes

(11:40):
it's you know, sometimes it's you know, controversial. Sometimes it's questionable, questionable,
cancel worthy, whatever you want to call it. But we've
always we've always been honest about who we are and
what where we're at, and that we're growing and then
we're learning and we're able to like evolve in our opinions,
in our mindset, and it doesn't seem like that that

(12:02):
doesn't matter anymore. It doesn't matter, and in fact.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
It's illegal.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
It's becoming illegal and punishable by law, the scariest part,
and affecting like not just not playing by law, but
also like affecting your livelihood.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
Well that's that's how you get to someone their livelihood.
And also the fact that they're considering confiscating us passports
and revoking our right to travel, which is insane or escape.

Speaker 5 (12:29):
I'm like, are we Are we the new refugees?

Speaker 3 (12:31):
We're going to be? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (12:32):
I mean I saw this conspiracy video about the lady.
She's talking about they painted the walls black on the
inside so that they're hot, so we can't climb over them.
She's bringing down all this ship world here.

Speaker 4 (12:47):
That's like the kind of panic I go into. And
I'm like, she's like, if we get to the point
where we need guns.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
Were guns. I got a gun. Everybody needs a gun
in their house.

Speaker 4 (12:58):
I mean, he's right to that point, where not it's
pretty much over with.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
I think everyone should have a gun in their house.

Speaker 4 (13:05):
I mean, I agree, I support gun laws. I support it,
I support carrying. I think there needs to be like
background tracks, obviously, and I think no one should be
able to just go pick one up. But I do
I think that people would be less likely to just
roll up on somebody's house and roll up and shoot
somebody if they assumed that everybody was carrying.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
Yeah, so I do.

Speaker 4 (13:24):
I believe in the right to protect. I don't know
if I mean, and a lot of people don't believe
in that, but I do, especially in these coming times.
But yeah, anyway, I hope you're protecting your joy and
your pleasure and your peace because that's the that's that's
the only thing we can do.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
Let's move on to bad choice of the week.

Speaker 4 (13:46):
Okay, that might have been ours doing that whole spiel,
that whole five minutes might have been our bad choice.
If we're not here next week.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
Will be here. Lack of fact. I heart protect us.

Speaker 4 (14:00):
I don't bring us in the fact that I googled this weekend,
who owns what?

Speaker 3 (14:04):
Who owns our heart? And shut up?

Speaker 5 (14:07):
Okay, we'll talk about that offline.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
Ki, Okay, y'all.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
So we have a segment on our show that we
haven't done in a while, but we're bringing it back.
It's called bad Choice of the Week. So you can
share a bad choice that's actually bad, or a bad
choice that maybe is bad to everyone else but good
for you. So make sure you submit your bad choices
of the week on our website, Good Momsbad choices dot Com.
Just go to contact us and you can submit your
bad choice of the week. You can submit your whoreor story,
or you can.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
Just ask an advice question. Because clearly we're so smart.

Speaker 4 (14:35):
We're experts at everything, experts at every mostly because we've
made all the bad choices and so we can come
back and report about what you should or should not
do because we've already done it for you.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
Well, this is a kind of a bad choice. Okay.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
This is from an anonymous person in my DMS. So
this person's bad choice of the week is I sent
money to enough woman on cash app and I'm hoping
and praying my girlfriend doesn't find.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
Out that's a really bad choice. Guilty.

Speaker 5 (15:06):
Actually, how much was it?

Speaker 3 (15:07):
I need to know? Can you ask? You know what?

Speaker 4 (15:10):
One time Orlando set somebody some it was like twenty
dollars for a drink and I was livid.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
I was like, what do you what do you mean?
Like why would what do you mean?

Speaker 4 (15:20):
I don't know if she asked him to or she like,
like he bought her a drink? Yeah, but it was
like via cash app, like it was like she was
having a bad day. You know, I'm engaged to the
nicest nigga in the world, even nicer than me, which
is crazy, but it was literally, this is how you
know I'm a cancer.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
And I don't forget shit because it.

Speaker 4 (15:37):
Was maybe four years ago, maybe three, and I was
still like, don't you ever send no bitch?

Speaker 3 (15:42):
How did I find out?

Speaker 4 (15:44):
I don't know if I looked in his phone or
he told me because he didn't think it was a
big deal. But I didn't love it, and I was
feeling it was also somebody used to talk like fuck,
so it was just like you've lost your fucking mind.

Speaker 5 (15:56):
He's like, it's twenty dollars. I was like, I don't
give a fuck. We need twenty dollars.

Speaker 4 (15:59):
We need every twenty, every five, every one dollar. You
don't send it in a bitch. So I think I'm
gonna be the one to tell you. I really hope
she doesn't find out, because you're gonna be in trouble.
I'll be the first one to tell you that. And
I need to know the amount because mine was twenty
dollars and I was still mad.

Speaker 5 (16:14):
Am I a bitch?

Speaker 3 (16:15):
Not this left?

Speaker 5 (16:19):
Am I the bitch? Am I the trump?

Speaker 3 (16:21):
Am I the drum?

Speaker 2 (16:22):
So is it so if you get money from like
a man sending me that way?

Speaker 3 (16:26):
I'm just watching, like what not?

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Ah, I'm just curious if it's different.

Speaker 4 (16:33):
I CAF, I received the money and I use it.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
And if one of our niggas dms, not niggas, but
like the niggas on our DMS.

Speaker 4 (16:41):
I have a niggas that send me cash sometimes when
I'm on vacation, I have a you know, I'm a
domin the DM.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
So how does Orlando doesn't care because you're spending money
on each other.

Speaker 4 (16:49):
Yeah, we'll go get drinks together. But if I'm receiving,
I'm not like out here begging for cash. Apps, but
I did think about the other day. I was like, God,
you know, Orlando got a job, so I'm like spending
a lot of time alone and I was going to go.
I went to go out to dinner by myself. They
just needed a moment, and I was like, God, I
wish I had like a sugar daddy that I could
just ask to like cash at me some dinner money.

(17:10):
And I was like, I need I meant to write
that down in my notes, Orlando, can I get a
sugar daddy so I can just get dinner money, But
I forgot to ask.

Speaker 5 (17:18):
I didn't.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
He's your sugar daddy. I know him to send you
money you need more sugar, I mean kool aid.

Speaker 4 (17:26):
So I don't really like when you reframe the questions
like that. I'm sorry, I don't.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
Really like that.

Speaker 4 (17:31):
But if I receive and I didn't ask, then I
don't think I should get.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
I don't think it matters.

Speaker 4 (17:36):
But if you're just fucking sending money, then you're the problem.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
I understand. I do.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
I would feel weird if my man, if she has
some money to a bitch for a drink or anything,
really on it at.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
All, even if he was like especially if he put
it in her. What the fu?

Speaker 4 (17:51):
Yeah, that sounds like and you know, Orlanta things like
we're there's friends. You know, Orlando, it's so interesting, Uh,
the relationship that men have with intimacy versus as women,
Like there's like a big deal. I mean I don't know,
because he's like comes from like the lifestyles, like more lifestyle.
It's like that it's men, right, I mean the lifestyle
people don't really care about sex. They just like it's

(18:11):
like this. Orlando told me it's like a handshake. I
was like, Orlando, shut the fuck. No, that's also just
men too, okay, right.

Speaker 5 (18:17):
I was like, I was like, maybe I have too
much trauma with men.

Speaker 4 (18:20):
But I I don't know if I'm just older and
I've just done too much fucking and hoeing in my
life that now I'm like, I don't need to have
any unnecessary sex. But Orlando's like, it's just like a handshake.
What's the big deal. I'm like, it's not a handshake.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
It's a handshake with their penis inside of her soul.
You're leaving remnants is of your your essence inside of them.

Speaker 4 (18:42):
Maybe better all around town, maybe on the floor, maybe
on someone's ass chic I don't really like it, then
then ask me what I've done lately and just kidding. Yeah,
but yeah, even if even if I had like the richest,
if I was like, if you had Bill Gate's money,
no donate to charity, I'd just be sending bitches money.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
I was on the internet because my whole feet is
now Cardi B. Because i'd like been like watching her
court case for the last like one week and a
half from like two weeks ago and now literally like
everything on my feet is fucking Cardi B. And I
kind of love it because I kind of love her.

Speaker 3 (19:23):
I love I love her a lot.

Speaker 5 (19:24):
Actually, she could do no wrong in my life.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
She's fucking hilarious. You know.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
She's kind of like been like I haven't seen her
around for a while, and I just like I got
like reinjected with like Cardi B. And I'm like, yes,
fucking she just like cracks me up and and just
real and honest. She someone asked her, uh, can can
is it okay if your boyfriend or your partner has
a female best friend? And of course, I mean she said, yeah,

(19:50):
like I think it's important. What do you think, how
do you feel about your partner having a female best
friend that they've never slept with. Okay, well, I question
you guys, you're watching YouTube wait for me at all,
let's zoom in on Jamila's eyeballs.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
I'm just kidding.

Speaker 4 (20:13):
I think it's fine if let's go back to the
beginning of this conversation. If you've never fucked this person,
I think it's fine even if you have. I've fucked
a lot of my friends. Actually I think I fucked
less friends than I think now. But I have fucked
some of my friends and it happens, you know, like
if you have a friendship over a long span of years.

(20:34):
This is my issue with the friend fucking and the
best friendship I think. Hm, I think that men and
women can be friends on all levels. I don't think
that that's an issue. I think we're humans and we
have self control. I think the issue is a lot
of times men and women do that thing, or they're
waiting for someone to fumble you, and then they could

(20:55):
be like, oh, let me hold dune, it's okay, and
she's a bitch, and then put their pussy on you.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
And be friends through multiple relationships. Now Ever happened I
think that's fine. I support that. I'm not like weird
that way.

Speaker 4 (21:07):
My only what I don't like is when Nigga you're like, oh,
Massus Marsus, and it's like, don't call bitch your sis
if you fucked her, it definitely don't introduce me to
her as your cis and you guys fucked, because then
that's incests and then I have to assume that you
are from like Florida or something. It's just I don't
like the I don't like the manipulation of calling somebody

(21:29):
a fake sis and then you have actually exchanged fluids.
I think that's deceiving, and I think that it's sneaky,
and then I have to like worry about if I
can trust you, and that's a whole other thing that
I need to be around that bitch and you for
a nice amount of time so I can, with my
witch Antenna's check the vibes and check where she's coming

(21:51):
from and check you and see.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
How she looks at you.

Speaker 4 (21:54):
Because if it's crazy and it looks like there's some
one ounce of attraction and if I turn my back,
you're gonna be crazy.

Speaker 5 (22:00):
I'm gonna cut it off.

Speaker 4 (22:01):
Okay, what do you think got it?

Speaker 5 (22:06):
I think I know you're not talking a fucking scorpions.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
I mean, I've been burned by this dynamic multiple times.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
So like I have, like from the.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
Bitch that was from my nigga who had the best
friend with one arm.

Speaker 4 (22:23):
Too, she didn't have one arm though, you my ex.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
Who was acclaimed that the person he was working with
was his was his friend and he was cheating with
her the whole time. Like, this is a this is
a very prevalent dynamic in my life. And so now
where do you land with it?

Speaker 3 (22:38):
You know?

Speaker 2 (22:39):
I think obviously and my antennas are up obviously more now.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
But I also, like.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
What I'm not in the I'm not in relationships with anyone.
To tell you that you can't be friends with someone,
you need to make that choice, because if I tell
you you can't be friends with this person, You're gonna
hate You're gonna hate me, and then you're secreting going
to be friends, And then I'm actually adding fuel to
the fire of this like forsaken friendship turned forsaken love

(23:06):
that wasn't even forsaken love, but I've made it now
forsaken love because now you can't even be friends with
this person, you know, So like I don't know, like probably,
like most the trauma response that maybe I most people
would have would be like fuck that, no you can't.
But for me, I'm like I already know. God is
always going to reveal the bullshit. Yeah, granted, God please
like expedite the information. But I definitely always have a

(23:33):
lot of questions because of that. And I think that
it's I think, if you're attracted to your man, and
if you know that other women are attracted to your man,
the likelihood of any woman, whether that's the friend or
a bitch on the street, being having any sort of
sexual attraction to your partner, even in friendship is probably

(23:54):
that's like a that's like you're.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
Living in La la land. Of course she can.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
She has eyes, you know, like she can see that
Orlando or she Cam or whoever we're with. If we're
dating someone who is generally attractive is attractive, right, And
so it's like that is just the dynamic of being human.
That's the same if like I have a really fine friend,
Doc is fine as fuck, you know, and that and

(24:20):
that is my friend, right and and like I saw
what we hang out in New York and like I
look at him and like, damn, he's so fine.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
He really is. We're being recorded right now.

Speaker 4 (24:33):
It's okay, just reminding you he's fine.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
But there's no But that boundary is like there's it's
there's no respect, there's no waiting, there's no waiting for
someone to fuck up like we've I've already been through
the fuck ups with other people, and there's no like, oh,
let me call Doc and like see what's up with him?
Like that's not that's not happening because I value the
dynamic of our friendship way more than any sort of

(24:57):
attraction that I have for him. And I think that's
like the boundary that people have to have, and like
the respect for one another people have to have. I
think it's unrealistic for us to think that if we
I don't want to say allow, but if our partners
have friends or best friends of the opposite sex and
they are attractive, that that other person doesn't find them
attractive at all, Like that's just not reality.

Speaker 4 (25:16):
The reality is attractive people live in the world, and
you can't control that if your partner comes in contact
with them, and to what level or degree they can
have a relationship with them, and I agree, like, I'm
never and I will never be the type of bitch
who like, I don't make the rules that you follow,
Like you make the rules and you hopefully respect the
relationship and me and the process. But I'm never gonna like,
you can't be friends with this person. I do have

(25:37):
a really toxic take on this, and I only know
that it's a little bit toxic because I was having
a conversation with Nicole the Pole. Shout out to my
friend Nicole the Pool and she this was kind of
came up and I was talking to her about something
and she was like, and I told her, because this
is my theory with women, I feel like and this

(25:59):
is I know that this is toxic, and I know
that this is like the programming that they give us,
and that this is also like the birth of a
lot of the jealous caddy things that come up between women.
Is that like there's not enough good men to go around.
And because I was telling Orlando or I was telling
Nicole like sometimes with women when they see when there's

(26:23):
been a friendship for a long period of time, and
this is my homies, this has been my boy for
so long and we love each other and we trust
each other. And then they see the man go get
into a relationship and they see him show up for
the woman that he's in a relationship with, and maybe
their relationship trajectory is not going so well or they've
been burnt and they're like, oh, well, why can't you
do this for me? Like you love me? Like why

(26:43):
can't you? Also, you know, like there's a comparison that happens,
or like at a certain age, if you've been friends
with like a guy for a long time and you
guys have good like energy and vibes, and maybe there's
an attraction and they start to go like love on
somebody else and you're like, well, damn, why couldn't that
been me?

Speaker 5 (26:59):
Like why didn't you look at me in this way?

Speaker 4 (27:01):
But now you're like I always said there, I always
feel like there is this like maybe.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
Because if there was a time that has that happened
to you, maybe I've never experienced that.

Speaker 5 (27:10):
Really, what do you mean?

Speaker 2 (27:11):
I mean like I'm not saying it's not doesn't happen
that women don't get jealous of like their their male
bestie like loving other woman.

Speaker 5 (27:18):
No, No, this is just my toxic. This is my
toxic idea.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
So these are just ideas. These are not actual facts
that you've experienced and seen.

Speaker 5 (27:25):
How I mean, I think with myself.

Speaker 4 (27:26):
I think there's some times where I've been single and
I've like maybe dated someone and then like maybe we're
they didn't go very far, and then I see them
later like in deep relationships, and I questioned myself like, damn,
why are like why wasn't that like.

Speaker 5 (27:37):
Not the trajectory of our friendship or whatever?

Speaker 4 (27:40):
And I'm this is how I know I'm prochecting and
it's and it's toxic. And and Nicole said to me,
do you think that you feel this way because you've
been sneaky and you've done sneaky things?

Speaker 5 (27:50):
And I was like, no, I don't.

Speaker 4 (27:54):
And she's like, hmmm, I think so, maybe not in
the same exact way that you're saying, but and I
was just like, Okay, well, this is not why I
came to eat lunch with you, like, actually, shut the
fuck me, and you're not really getting the point of
our friendship. But I just I know that. And she's like,
that's not necessarily true. This is something you're telling yourself

(28:14):
and it's true, those are those are valid things. I
do think that that can be a thing. And I
think we have the fucked up thing of like always
thinking the worst.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
Well I think that's always thinking the worst always like
women not trusting women, you know what I mean, Like
that's a thought of like you, not like not you.

Speaker 4 (28:31):
But I don't trust any woman who's not my personal friend,
Like why I mean, not like any woman, but like
you're not looking out for me, You're looking out for you,
Like you know what I mean, Like it's not personal,
it's just that we're not friends, So why would you
protecting me in this?

Speaker 2 (28:45):
No, but I don't I give women the benefit of
the doubta until I have a reason not to. I'm
not like looking at women like you, I don't trust
you because I don't know you, Like if that was
the case, Like that's like kind of conflicts with the
fucking the work that we do with women. It's like
we're asking women to come into spaces that they don't
know anybody and try the people that are there.

Speaker 4 (29:01):
Yes, there's when there's nothing on the like there's no
uh like how do they say, like heat in the
game or whatever, Like there's like, yeah, come and be
friends like I don't not just I don't just like
not trust bitches on the street. I'm just saying, in
a dynamic where my man has a best friend that's
a female, your interest is him and your.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
Happiness hopefully hopefully Yeah, so they're like for that, like that,
at the very least, I'm going to trust that as
his friend and as my like that you care about
the happiness of your friend, because that is like standard
for friendships period, That standard for me and your friendship,
that standard for Orlando and you know whoever the fuck's friends.

Speaker 4 (29:44):
I agree, but we do we both know that even
in those situations like sometimes people's uh, people's happiness for
themselves comes in first.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
All I'm saying is like I'm not saying, whatever happens
after that is more is telling. But that's the baseline
that I'm going into assuming assuming is that this person
you're telling me is your friend. I trust you, I've
built a rapport and trust with you. I'm going to
assume that you wouldn't bring me around a bitch, even though.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
Niggas have lied, you.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
Know, but I've made the conscious choice to not group
every like if that was the case, I wouldn't even
like there'd be no relationships at all happening for me,
Like I told myself after my last relationship and the
one before that, even like I'm not closing my heart
off just because this nigga fucked this shit up. You know,
Like as women, we are constantly like putting boundaries in

(30:38):
our love space because people have hurt us. And then
we're closed off and we meet the next person and
we're not available to receive the love because we're still
punishing ourselves and the other person and the person we're
with for what happened before. So I think, like the
hope is that you trust the person you're with, You
trust the type of relationships that they say are important
to them and are respectful to your relationship. And I'm

(31:01):
going to trust that until until I meet this bitch
and I look her in.

Speaker 3 (31:05):
The eyes and I say, oh, that's.

Speaker 4 (31:07):
Always my thing, Like let me just be around. I
have such spidy senses for any type of unlike authentic
energy that I'm I can always gauge if I think
something is is like genuine or not. But yeah, enough
of exposing my toxic traits.

Speaker 5 (31:26):
Have be friends with whoever you want.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
Not enough of like you know, like I exposed it,
but you said, this is a toxic trait that I have.

Speaker 4 (31:37):
I also realize, like I'm super on high high alert.

Speaker 5 (31:42):
Because like my mom was that way. My mom was like.

Speaker 4 (31:44):
Hyper jealous because probably is my dad was a fucking cheater.
So I've inherited it through DNA. It's not really my fault. Interesting,
I've had to really work through this.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
Yeah, no, I mean, yeah, it might come from a
line of my dad is a cheater also, So I
don't know how that translated in my DNA from my
mom to me.

Speaker 4 (32:04):
I think it's because I lived in the household.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
True, I didn't.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
I observed experienced it over and over over and over
again over and.

Speaker 4 (32:11):
Absorbed it and observed it.

Speaker 5 (32:13):
In like who's that, Who's that?

Speaker 4 (32:15):
Who' in the phone with to the point where I
told you like if my dad is with me and
he's in the car and I feel like his tone
is low, it triggers me. If I feel like he's whispering,
I'm triggered, and I'm like, this is crazy that I
even the fact that I even noticed that is insane.
But that's how I know that a lot of my
some of my jealousy and my non trustingness is like,

(32:36):
not me, it's my mother that I do.

Speaker 5 (32:39):
I have to warn out of it.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
But what about you, guys?

Speaker 2 (32:41):
Leave a comment in the YouTube tell us what you
think about your boyfriend's husbands, lovers, partners having female friends
and vice versa.

Speaker 4 (32:51):
Yeah, men, how do you feel about your women having
male friends?

Speaker 3 (32:54):
Yeah? I'm trying to now because.

Speaker 4 (32:56):
What I've heard all the time for men is no
men wants to be your friend. Have you heard that
men know want to be your friend? They don't give
a fuck about your friendship, which has always been very hurtful.

Speaker 5 (33:06):
No, I know, I'm always like, but I'm really nice.

Speaker 3 (33:08):
I literally had men make me. I can't even call
the men boys.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
This is when I was need to smoke. I think, okay, okay,
roll the backwards stressing me. I remember when I was
dating someone when I was like nineteen. He was a
little bit older than me, and he made me call
my best guy friend at the time and break up
with him.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
And I did it, and then I called him afterwards
like just kid it.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
I was keep a tripping, just like I just just
don't text me, like message me on.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
Instagram or whatever. My space wherever we're doing exact.

Speaker 4 (33:37):
You know, you were nineteen. The fact they were like, hello,
I just want you to know the fact that a.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
Guy even thought that was I literally I couldn't believe
me made me do I cried the whole time.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
He made me do it in front of him and I.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
Was crying, Im sorry, I can't be and he was like,
it was fucking it was abuse.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
It was literally a crazy guy.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
Yeah, the one, yeah, yeah, you know which one, the
one who I opened it like a little clam Yeah,
you need to go back to you if you're just
joining us at good mom's bad choices, I really would
to encourage you to go back to the beginning, Like
there's a lot of good fucking stories there.

Speaker 5 (34:10):
Called some exit.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
We interviewed, We interviewed, I had my ex boyfriend come
on the show.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
Spoke to you.

Speaker 4 (34:16):
In years, we're just calling people up, like, hey, remember
when you dated me, Tell me some things about me.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
Talk about tell me about me, tell me what.

Speaker 4 (34:26):
You hate about me, so then we can hang up
and talk shit about you. Yeah on air, don't worry,
it's gonna be great.

Speaker 3 (34:33):
And then they did it. Yeah, but he made me
break up with.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
I made me break up with my friend and then
even my last boyfriend. He again, he didn't like any
He didn't want me to have any male friends either,
and that's.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
Because he was a fucking cheating as I know.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
But but I mean, obviously I didn't like break up
with my friends. But it was just like I definitely
didn't bring my male friends around him.

Speaker 5 (34:56):
That's what we're smoking.

Speaker 4 (34:57):
This episode is brought to you by bold Backs because
you got to make build choices and not break up
with your opposite sex besties or do like Eric.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
I didn't. I fake, but I fake broke up. Wait,
we don't have a grinder, but use those fingernails.

Speaker 4 (35:16):
We have, David, we have a new technique. I don't
know if anyone's tried this. I haven't brought to see
if it works. It's one pill bottle.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
Okay, some weed.

Speaker 4 (35:26):
And one or two dimes okay, okay, and.

Speaker 5 (35:29):
Then you just shake it.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
This is am oh wait, not so.

Speaker 4 (35:32):
Much, okay, because that was a simar And we'll see
if it works. This is that good California weed. So
I don't know, I feel like this.

Speaker 3 (35:44):
Is like I feel like spenders. Oh my god, it worked,
so gooda.

Speaker 5 (35:48):
Let me see, I gotta keep going.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
Oh wow, okay, I.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
Got Dave, will keep going the grinder where you have
a few nickels.

Speaker 4 (35:59):
Shake shake, shake, shake, shake that grinder, shake that grinder.

Speaker 5 (36:07):
Okay, yeah, just doing something over it that.

Speaker 4 (36:11):
I can go a little faster, but you know, maybe
you can do the rest with your fingernails.

Speaker 3 (36:15):
Yeah, okay, I so you guys.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
I on the last episode where we were talking about
black Goop aka Bloop Boop Boop Boop, I said I
was going toxic free right, and I am a woman
of my word. I said, that was the last time
you were gonna see me with gel nails, and a
bitch took them off. Okay, I took them off. If
you were following me on Instagram at Watch Erica going
to follow my stories, I took those bitches off. I

(36:38):
went to the nail shop I got. I wasn't even
gonna put nail polish on, and they were like, you're
gonna leave without a nail polish And I was like,
she's like, let me just put something on.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
I was like, all right, fine.

Speaker 4 (36:47):
They haven't seen real they haven't seen regular naked nails
in over a decade.

Speaker 5 (36:51):
They didn't know what to do.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
I could tell she was pissed coming here to take
the shit off and not do anything else.

Speaker 3 (36:57):
Shut up, Jenny, just do my shit. And she charged
you fifty dollars. Still, it was a lot cheaper.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
So she took them off, and then I put a
red nail polish on, and then I put my fucking
fingers next to that fan that I haven't It was
literally I felt vintage like and even I was.

Speaker 3 (37:10):
Like, you have a fan.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
She's like, I don't have one. I was like, you, bitch,
do you have a fan?

Speaker 3 (37:13):
I went in the back.

Speaker 4 (37:13):
Remember you now you can remember you had to wait
until it dried.

Speaker 5 (37:16):
Do you remember that?

Speaker 2 (37:18):
I don't remember, because I did it, bitch, I recently
did it. I put my fucking hands on that fan
that she brought from the back from the Vintage for
the days from the nineteen hundreds, and I had to
sit there and wait for at least fifteen minutes for
them to dry.

Speaker 3 (37:30):
And then I was like, okay, what this isn't so bad.
I could do it.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
Three days later they were chipping, so I went ahead
and I was like, fuck this, I'm gonna try press
on nails because I've seeing people with press on nails
and they look really cute, and I went and got
me some press on nails at Alta. And so far
they've been doing what they need to do. They've popped
off a few times, which is very annoying. But maybe

(37:56):
this is just like part of this new non toxic life.

Speaker 5 (37:58):
I mean, but he'll Beau.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
You could just glue it back on because mine broke
lose one, oh, and then you can't find it again.

Speaker 5 (38:05):
They don't have doubles.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
They do have doubles, but if you've gone through the
double and then it's just gone, then you're just done that.
You're just done with that set and there's no replacing it,
you know what I mean. So I have to be
very mindful of like seeing if one is popped off
and picking it up off the floor or whatever.

Speaker 5 (38:18):
I'm so rough on my fucking fingers.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
Well so am I, and actually that's why I'm surprised,
Like only two have come off. And I wash my
hands a lot, like when I'm cooking, like I don't
like anything on my hand, Like if I cut something,
I have to go wash them again. And I am
rough on my hands too, And they've been they've been
staying on. So shout out to the press on ill girlies.
If you're in the press On club, I.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
Might be joining you. We'll see how long term I
can keep things going. We need to find the best glues.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
So when then, I yesterday a girl came up to
me and she's like, are those gleam nedicks?

Speaker 3 (38:49):
I have the same ones? I'm like, how the fuck
do you know? We have the same nails? Like, what
the fuck? She knew?

Speaker 5 (38:53):
It's like wearing the same color.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
It's crazy. And so she gave me a tip.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
She said that I have to file them down, which
I already did, put alcohol on them, and then file
inside of here.

Speaker 3 (39:04):
Oh so they'm both a little bit so they're both rough.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
And then use the glue and it'll be fine. So
I'm gonna try that next time. But I mean, I
think at this point, like you just kind of have
to submit to the fact that these bitches are gonna
pop off off.

Speaker 5 (39:15):
I mean, it's kind of like going back to like
the fifth grade.

Speaker 3 (39:17):
And I also got regular nail polish.

Speaker 4 (39:19):
Okay, well tell me how long that last?

Speaker 3 (39:20):
This is? Look this is I mean it's been two weeks.

Speaker 5 (39:24):
Oh, that's been two weeks.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
Yeah, so anyway, and other news.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
In other breaking news, other breaking news.

Speaker 5 (39:35):
I don't know if you guys notice were news reporters.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
Now, I was watching this clip speaking of Cardi because
she's controlling my life now.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
And I just listened to her album, maybe listened to
her album.

Speaker 4 (39:46):
Well you know, she's pregnant. I know, you know we're
all like skeptical for a while.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
Well you know what, because like she you know, when
she when she did her Bodega meet up where she
was dancing on the car and shit, her stomach was showing,
but it wasn't her stomach she had. I think she
must have had a spank on and you could see
her belly button, and so I zoomed and I took
a screenshot and it looked zoomed, it looked like a
fake belly. And then she had like CDs in her
stomach and she was like passing them out like it
was on purpose.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
She was confusing us.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
I mean, listen, I really feel like, I really feel
like her album Rollout was pretty like a masterclass of
like going with the theme I am the drama or
am I the drama?

Speaker 3 (40:23):
And shout out to Cardi.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
I'm very I'm shout out to your pregnancy and all
of the blessings of having a new child when you're rich,
because it really doesn't even if it doesn't work out,
of course it'll be heartbreaking, but you're doing better.

Speaker 3 (40:35):
Than most of us.

Speaker 4 (40:37):
I mean, honestly, when people were like making a big
deal about her giving birth to another child, like she
could do whatever she wants. Do you think these are
niggas baby second guests and niggas when they get bitches
pregnant in the same year, Like absolutely not. And she's rich,
like she has all of the means to take care
of her own shootes.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
I mean, she's rich, she's happy.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
I mean, everybody's calling Stefan Diggs like an athlete offset
and he might be, but we don't know that athlete.

Speaker 3 (41:02):
Off. We don't know him. We don't know that man,
and we don't know that woman either.

Speaker 5 (41:05):
I always think about it. He's like, I want you
to have my baby.

Speaker 4 (41:08):
Come on, baby, like come on, just take like okay, just.

Speaker 3 (41:11):
Not in me.

Speaker 4 (41:13):
Yeah, that's like every I was thinking, like, good thing,
I'm not rich. I'd have like fifty fifty eleven keys
because I'm like, okay.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
Yeah, that's the difference, bitches is that Cardibe has a
lot of money and you don't, so chill out, we're
a condom or take birth control.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
But anyway, she was talking about I'm lighting up the backwood. Well,
while you l like that, let's just watch this.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
Clip because it was this clip that she did when
she revealed her pregnancy on the Gail King interview.

Speaker 3 (41:40):
Here's this new Oprah.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
I know.

Speaker 3 (41:42):
Well, yeah, Oprah, Yes, she's facilitated that if.

Speaker 4 (41:45):
You become Oprah, you better make me Gael bitch. If
you ever become the Opra.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
I promised me too, Okay, Piggy promise. Okay, put me on.
Like if you get into space, bit.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
Listen, if you have friends that are on and they're
not putting you on, like Oprah put Gayla on, that's
not your friend, fuck her.

Speaker 3 (42:06):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
So this was the clip that stuck out to me.
And there was a lot of moments that she talked about.
She talked about her pregnancy, she talked about just you
know how you know, co parenting with offset is not
is not going great, and of course, like she wants
it to go great, but it's just not possible at
this moment. Also, he came out. He went out last night,
and he's been like posting this other bitch because it's

(42:28):
so sad, like men are so predictable. He's so predictable
and women are not only the petty one he looks.

Speaker 3 (42:33):
He looks dumb as hell. He looks very like a
bitch and a mirror or something. It was that.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
And then he went outside with her or someone I
don't know, like last night to the club, and I was.

Speaker 3 (42:41):
Like, she's not Cardi though she looks like Cardi.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
No, she looked fine, but she's you know, she's being
used as a prop unfortunately.

Speaker 3 (42:51):
Anyway.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
In the clip, Carti's talking about just her work ethic
and her having all these kids because she announced her
tour and she's been on tour like right after birth,
and she's kind of like worked consistently through all of
her pregnancies.

Speaker 5 (43:07):
I literally don't even know the difference.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
She's like work more productive pregnant.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
I really feel like she was one of the first
women I really saw be on like a grand stage,
pregnant as fuck, rapping and not giving a fuck. Like
I really do think that Cardi B has pushed the
needle for women and pregnancy and working.

Speaker 3 (43:24):
You don't think so, No, I do.

Speaker 5 (43:26):
I think she's done a great job.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
I really like I was miss well now.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
Rihanna, like Rihanna obviously Rihanna too, but like for a
long time, Like pregnancy and being an artist, because we've
had Melanie Fiona on and talk about this as well,
Like those two things did not go hand in hand.

Speaker 5 (43:38):
Like she's bold in her choices. Yeah, fuck out of here.
I'm pregnant. Yeah, I'm my third kid. Yeah I'm not
having a new baby daddy.

Speaker 3 (43:44):
Fuck all y'all.

Speaker 5 (43:44):
And I'm still gonna do it.

Speaker 4 (43:45):
And I think everybody everywhere, no matter what you say,
have to say about her or anyone else, you can't.
You can only hate on authentistic, real shits for only
so long. You can't shame someone who isn't ashamed. And
I was actually watching I was high last night. I
just just had a fun I was so high. I
was talking to Orlando. I was watching something online and
they're like, these fucking new school female rappers, They're gonna

(44:05):
look so stupid when they're like when there's like a tribute,
a tribute to them and they're like sixty talking about
wet this wet ass pussy this wop and I was like,
I don't really think so, not really. I think it's
gonna it's gonna age well. And then I was thinking
about men having to like be old and sing rap
songs like I'm.

Speaker 3 (44:23):
Drunker than a motherfucker right now, Like I was so Orlando.

Speaker 4 (44:26):
Can you imagine someone like pushing him out a little
little John Allen in a wheelchair and he's talking about
I'm drunking than a motherfucker right now. I'm like, no
one talked about that, But you're talking about Cardi having
to sing wal I'll these fifty five singing it with.

Speaker 3 (44:38):
Her, Sure I will, sure will anyway continue that, I
thought of the.

Speaker 7 (44:42):
Week, Well, they all wake up early in the morning.
I go to sleep late at night. Put morning this album.
My grandma from my father's side, she had ten kids
in a wooden house, and after she gave birth to
a kid's she'll go back in a farm, make cheese,
sell mangles. And my grandmother for my mom, she had
thirteen kids, but all of them one by one, two America,

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cooking food, cleaning people's houses. So can you imagine can
you imagine me telling one of my grandma's Oh.

Speaker 3 (45:14):
I'm just so tired.

Speaker 7 (45:15):
That's why I cannot go get some millions.

Speaker 3 (45:18):
And race my four kids and my three.

Speaker 7 (45:20):
Kids, I don't look at me like girl, you can't be serious,
or my mom. So it's like like there shouldn't be
no excuse for me neither.

Speaker 3 (45:28):
There shouldn't be.

Speaker 7 (45:29):
So that's why I don't even like I'm so tired
sympathy for myself.

Speaker 3 (45:33):
It is like you seem to CARDI, you seem to
figure it out. I have to if they figured it out.
You seem to figure it out.

Speaker 7 (45:41):
If they figured it out, I had to figure it
out all the resources. I didn't know that, So imagine
what's my excuse?

Speaker 3 (45:48):
Excuse?

Speaker 5 (45:49):
You know, she's right.

Speaker 4 (45:50):
I just realized, like my grandmother cleaned white people's houses
for a living for years and years and years, and
my mom would always tell me that my grandmother cleaned
white people's houses, and so yeah, what are your excuses?

Speaker 3 (46:00):
And just think about our.

Speaker 4 (46:01):
Ancestors who were working tirelessly for free.

Speaker 3 (46:05):
Why yeah, like there's no excuses.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
And this is like and she's following her dreams, do
you know what I mean? Like it's just not like
because I want to be very clear, like I'm not encouraged.
I'm not saying that like when black women need to
work harder at the shit that they don't that is
just like they're forced to do. I'm talking about having
enough energy, having enough motivation to follow your dreams with
the same tenacity that your grandparents used to just survive,

(46:30):
you know. And it's like it's like a lot of
times we get into a splace of a place of.

Speaker 3 (46:38):
Complacency in ways.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
Because we are because there is this aspect of yes,
there's a lot of people that are trying to survive
and they're also trying to follow their dreams, So like
how do you do both.

Speaker 5 (46:47):
And also rest? Because we've done a lot of work.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
Yeah, and like I believe in the rest absolutely, Like
I feel like both of us have been advocates for rest.
I mean that's literally what are another part of our
business is about. But I also feel like you can't
only rest. So like, if you're chasing your dreams, like
they're not gonna come with you resting all the time,
you got to get up and get it, you know.

(47:10):
And this woman is obviously getting she's you know, she's
chasing her dreams, she's chasing her career, she's chasing this
dollar and she's and it's working.

Speaker 5 (47:17):
She's literally but she's had millions. She's not chasing pennies
over here.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
She had nine songs in the top ten on Apple Music. Yes, wow, Wow,
she's already platinum.

Speaker 5 (47:25):
I haven't listened to the album.

Speaker 3 (47:26):
You love her. I do love her.

Speaker 5 (47:28):
Shout out to Carti do whatever you want with your pussy.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
Come on the posh, please come on pop trying to
get you on the podcast for years years.

Speaker 5 (47:35):
This is where I beg.

Speaker 3 (47:36):
Does anybody know Cardi B?

Speaker 2 (47:38):
Call us if you know Cardi B, or your homegirl
in the Bronx, whatever, tell her, tell her goods.

Speaker 3 (47:44):
Bad choices. Is waiting for her to sit right here,
right in the middle.

Speaker 4 (47:47):
We're gonna pull up a third microphone.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
She's right, But that just inspired me. When I listened
to that, I was like, God, damn, it's true.

Speaker 3 (47:56):
It's true.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
Like with the resources that she has, or with the
resources that we have, even if you're not Cardi B,
we have more resources than our fucking grandparents had. No
matter where you're adding your struggle, it's not that what
it was for them, you know.

Speaker 5 (48:08):
It's also how much you value your talent too.

Speaker 4 (48:10):
I think when you understand and I this is important too,
I think when you understand like your value as a
human being as just does you your unique design as Eric,
your Dickerson, like you only only you have a certain
thing that you're supposed to bring to fruition into into
birth in this world, because that's what the divine gave you,
you know. And like, sometimes we are so conditioned to

(48:32):
play down and downplay our talents and what our true
you know, our true essence is and that is our gift,
that is our job, and sometimes we forget that and
so we don't go after our dreams, you know, courageously,
because we're like, oh, does my little book matter? Does
my little voice matter? And it's like, no, bitch, it does.
But you have to know that first, even to like

(48:53):
to fight for it. Sorry I didn't even pass this
one time. To fight for it and to put it
out in the world without fear of criticism, because it's
people are gonna hate, people are going to criticize you.
That's the pout of it. But yeah, just knowing that
what you have is important and worth going after.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
True, and it can feel exhausting and it can feel
it could feel like impossible at times, but ain't nothing impossible.
Like if people before us could do it, you can
do it and like and use the tools that you have,
or you our ancestors didn't even have the luxury.

Speaker 3 (49:31):
Of having tools, do you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (49:33):
Like they didn't even have access to certain practices. They
didn't even have the time because they were dealing with
such traumatic experiences, trying to just get through the trauma
of what happened yesterday, you know. And granted those things
exist in some capacity in everyone's life, but even having
these spaces where you can listen to this conversation or

(49:56):
you can have a podcast where you can share your experience,
those things did not those are that wasn't even a possibility,
you know. So there's an act of releasing and saying
the thing that they didn't even have. So use the capacity,
use the freedom that you have in your mind and
your body and your spirit to motivate yourself to follow.

Speaker 3 (50:15):
Your dreams because you can.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
And like literally, that's literally when they say you're the
product of your you're your ancestor's wildest dreams.

Speaker 3 (50:22):
Truly, we are so fucking act like it. I can
me act like it. It's true.

Speaker 5 (50:31):
Which brings us to our next topic.

Speaker 4 (50:34):
What was it didn't Sweety have an interview this week
or last week?

Speaker 2 (50:39):
I don't know where we are, and uh, pretty privileged.
She's pretty punishment to pretty punishment. She made a mention
of pretty punishment, like was it to say like about
where her rap career is. She was just saying how
she's been passed up and looked looked over for opportunities
because of how she looks at times, that people have

(51:00):
blocked her from walking into different rooms, and and that
it's just something that you know, it's not a popular
thing to say, but that this is.

Speaker 3 (51:10):
This is her pretty it's pretty pretty privileged because she.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
Was talking about probably that woman that you showed me,
and you should just play that clip first so that
we understand what pretty privilege is or her version of
what pretty privilege is.

Speaker 3 (51:21):
This woman on TikTok.

Speaker 4 (51:22):
I was scrolling the internet and I saw on threads
this woman talking about pretty privileged and she's fifty and
people really came for her and they were like, it's
not pretty privilege, it's uh colorism, colorism.

Speaker 3 (51:36):
Well, anyway, this is.

Speaker 5 (51:37):
A pretty privilege is real?

Speaker 3 (51:39):
It is? I said the ship it's real.

Speaker 6 (51:41):
I have seen people gravitate towards me and then all
of a sudden like compliment me on my eyes, my skin, color,
my hair, whatever.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
Right, So it's real.

Speaker 6 (51:51):
People do actually, you know, I guess treat me differently
because of it. Now, because of it, the differ for
treatment is not always good. Okay, sometimes the treatment is
negative and it's bad. So because of the color of
my skin, because of the color of my eyes, because
of my hair texture, I.

Speaker 3 (52:12):
Get hated on. So one of needs you people who hate.

Speaker 6 (52:16):
On people who are pretty, to at least take into
consideration that we getting it out here, like we already
getting it.

Speaker 8 (52:23):
We don't need it.

Speaker 4 (52:25):
She goes on to say she was out with some friends,
she got a lot of male attention. They haven't called
her back for a better context.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
Where she lost me and this dialogue was when she
talked about her parents. And it's not her fault that
she's mixed up like she was associating her pretty privileged
to she actually made it about color and made it
about the color of skin. And Sweety's interview wasn't about color,
It wasn't about her. It was because she's a light
skinned woman talking about being pretty that's very triggering for
people to hear.

Speaker 3 (52:53):
People don't like that.

Speaker 4 (52:55):
And this woman, for context, is fair skin, she has
light eyes, so I'm saying, like she said, she's I'm
just saying for the people listening, I mean, yeah, not
who can't see her, but you know, like she's curly hair,
but she's older. So a lot of the comments were like, yeah,
it was interesting, and me and Eric got into the
conversation about like a about it being about colorism, about
attributing beauty to attributing beauty to being mixed, and also

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how people once you pass a certain age, they don't
see you as pretty anymore, and they were just saying, like,
I think that.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
They're having two different conversations because I think that there
is pretty privilege. I think there's pretty privilege with black,
dark skinned black women. I think I think there's pretty
privileged with light skinned black women. I think there's pretty
privilege with pretty pretty people period. And so like a
dark skinned black woman who is pretty can also experience
pretty privilege. She can walk into a room, maybe it's

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not even white people, maybe it's a bunch of black guys,
and maybe she's prettier than the other dark skinned black
person because maybe she's not as traditionally as beautiful as her.
So it can exist in a lot of different spaces.
I think that what people take issue with is a
light skinned black woman she said the wrong thing. But
a light skinned black woman talking about her pretty privilege
automatically triggers a lot of people to then say, Oh,

(54:15):
it's because you're light skin that you got this and this, and.

Speaker 5 (54:16):
That's what they're saying about Swedetia.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
Yes, and granted that is also true. I don't think
that like me, as a light skinned black woman, I
understand my privilege. It is true, I have experienced it.
I understand how dark skinn black women have proportionately experienced
a lot more just like trauma around what they look like,

(54:38):
what is deemed beautiful, their skin, all of it, you know,
and it's not even yes racism, but like black people
do it to black people, do you know, like dark
skin black women have also experiences with them there which
I'm I just don't think a black man is going
to be racist against a black woman.

Speaker 4 (54:53):
The colorism is a like a branch of racism. It
exists because racism so anything cool because part of the
closer proximity to white or European features.

Speaker 3 (55:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
Colonialism it exists in every space and every culture and
every ethnicity. Yes, And so black men, black women, we've
all been touched by it in some capacity. How we
view ourselves, how we prefer our partners, all those things.

Speaker 3 (55:17):
I think that like with Sweety, which she.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
Was saying in her interview, she was saying how she
felt like she had been blocked from certain situations because
she's pretty, and she probably has because people be hating
bitch is behating, niggas that don't get don't get the policy,
behting because she's a pretty bitch and they want to
fuck her and she didn't and now it's fuck you.

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And now there's or there's another woman that maybe has
an opportunity that they can give her. But they're experiencing
their own like stuff going on where they don't.

Speaker 3 (55:50):
Think that they're whatever.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
They're like comparing and jealous like that exists, like jealousy exists,
it does, and I think I think that unfortunately, the colorism, yes,
has just diseased our community where unfortunately, like even like
me as a black woman, like I do, I have

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to be careful what I say is I understand what
I have to be careful.

Speaker 5 (56:17):
What do you mean by be careful?

Speaker 3 (56:18):
What you say?

Speaker 5 (56:19):
Like for instance, like what do you mean.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
Like if I was sweedy and I was on a
radio station talking about my pretty privilege. I have to
know there is going to be black women that come
for me and assume that I'm talking about my light
skinnedness because that's triggering for them. So when I say
I have to be careful, that's what I mean because
as a light skinned black woman, I understand my privilege
when I'm still black.

Speaker 3 (56:39):
Every day I walk around, I'm a black woman.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
I don't think it makes you any less black, I think,
and I understand what you're I'm not saying it makes
many less black.

Speaker 4 (56:44):
I think I think that there's yeah, I like this woman.
I think that sometimes, unfortunately, because of colorism, because of racism,
because of white supremacy.

Speaker 3 (56:56):
Even black people obviously.

Speaker 4 (56:58):
By design are informed and are internalizing that racism, and
so in our communities, of course it breeds like oh
I want to have a mix this or this is
more beautiful or hashtag mixed kids or whatever.

Speaker 5 (57:08):
The fuck that means.

Speaker 4 (57:10):
And I think that sometimes mixed people. So you you've
also we all take the We all take the bait,
you know what I mean, And so that sometimes people
assume that oh I'm mixed, or I have light eyes,
or I have light skin, or I have this kind
of hair, then I'm automatically beautiful. And I think that's
not always true, like just you know, and I think
it goes both ways, like because of this poison in

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the well and we all take it. It affects how
we how we interact in love space and just how
we love each other and how we show up and
the are cautious, like our cautiousness against like sir, because
if I said something about pretty privilege, that probably wouldn't
be like.

Speaker 5 (57:49):
People could be like, oh, well she's not pretty.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
Oh no, I guarantee if you said something of pretty vilege,
but women are still gonna come for you. People don't
like women even saying they're pretty, do you know what
I mean? Yeah, there would be a whole other drama.
It probably wouldn't be about your skin color. It would
be about some other shit.

Speaker 4 (58:03):
But yeah, why why is that triggering for women to
be like, I know I'm beautiful.

Speaker 2 (58:06):
That's because I'm just saying That's why this is too
This is like multiple conversations so layered.

Speaker 4 (58:11):
And then also with this woman, she's she looks pretty.
She looks older than fifty to me, and so there
was even that factor. She's like, you guys are saying
I'm not pretty because I'm older or whatever, and how
we like agism.

Speaker 5 (58:23):
Too, and it's just like.

Speaker 4 (58:26):
And how we do women generally do have to tiptoe
around saying I know I'm beautiful.

Speaker 2 (58:33):
Yeah, if you say you're pretty, like who told you
you're pretty? It says who who defined you? Like?

Speaker 3 (58:40):
And did we pull the community? You know?

Speaker 4 (58:41):
What she says in this clip, which I think is
also triggering in ways, I'm she's I think she says
traditionally pretty or like main I forgot what the word
she used. I think it's in the next clip about
like mainstream I don't know.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
Or probably white colonialism. She has light eyes, she's light skinned,
she has loose curls. There's a level of white that
you see prevalent in her in her face period, you know,
And I think, like, I don't know this woman. I
have not I just want to be clear. I never
looked at her really at her Instagram. I don't know
what she'd be talking about But if I'm taking this
at face value, like and she's telling the story about

(59:16):
her going out into the world and men paying more
attention to her versus someone else, she may not be
lying that actually happens. That is actually colorism happening in
real time. She's sharing her experience as a lights and
black woman that is experiencing colorism now, and now these
women are like, fuck her, because that actually does happen.
Because and because there is a disease within us, and

(59:37):
it's like we can't so it's like we can't talk
about it because then we.

Speaker 3 (59:40):
Look like we're our privilege is showing.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
But then like it's like things are existing, and it's
like I think sometimes because mixed people in our who
are black, in the black community, like because there is
this there's whiteness that exists in us, really and truly
there is like I don't know how the other, the

(01:00:04):
other ring of us ever gets healed, do you know
what I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:00:08):
Like I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
People are like, how do we in color zone. I
don't think that we can. I like I think that
I don't because you see it at every place on
the planet, Like it is so intrinsically in our DNA
at this point that it's I don't know if it's possible. Honestly,

(01:00:30):
you have to you have to find your spaces. I
think it's just it's just like just like black like
dark skinned black people will will there ever be a
space in all of the world where you're gonna like
where there will be no judgment or assumption racism? Probably not,
you know, like I just don't. That sounds negative, but
like truly like do you think that.

Speaker 4 (01:00:51):
I mean, I mean, is it going to be eradicated
in our lifetime?

Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
Absolutely don't in any lifetime.

Speaker 4 (01:00:58):
Probably not, because it's it's it's physical, it's visual. We
have created a world where oh like visually this blue eyes.

Speaker 5 (01:01:05):
Or anything closest to this.

Speaker 4 (01:01:06):
And this exists not only in the black community, in
the Asian community, like in Filipinos. The darker you are
is the less attractive you are. They want to be
lights and they hide themselves from the skin. There's like
skin lightening. I think the sad part is I think
for my people, like as a black person, I want
to say that I know, like with with rationale and

(01:01:27):
like when you understand how deep it is that maybe
people can wake up through it. It's just ignorance, and
I just think it saddened me because.

Speaker 3 (01:01:34):
It's it's self hate.

Speaker 5 (01:01:37):
It's self hate.

Speaker 4 (01:01:38):
It's saying that, you know, like being being the darker,
the kinkier, like the wider, like what the attributes that
are naturally our own are unattractive. But then you see
also in mainstream everyone's dying to be brown. Everybody's trying
to get a baby here and an ass and big lips.
It's also like mocking us and making us hate ourselves

(01:02:00):
while also stealing everything that is us and repackaging, repackaging
it and remarketing it as some new shit, while hating
the actual birth and creation of it, which is black women,
which it makes sense in the the world that we
live in is because we're the first people. It's science.
Everybody came from us black women. So when you look

(01:02:23):
at it scientifically, of course they're gonna demean and belittle
and brainwash us first and foremost, because that's how you
poison an entire nation and confuse them to not know
themselves and to think everything that is them is unattractive,
and pit them against these or each other. When someone
is looking more closer to this other standard which is

(01:02:45):
the essentially not even the dilution.

Speaker 5 (01:02:48):
But yeah, like.

Speaker 4 (01:02:50):
It's an interesting it's very complex. And that's why when
we see clips like that guy recently a couple weeks ago,
the freckled guy in England, like going off saying how
much he doesn't black women and black women in the
wigs and black women, and he got so angry and
it came out later that like he didn't love his
mom or his mom wasn't you know whatever, This internalized
hate that we spew at each other, and it's like

(01:03:11):
it's obviously by design. We so deeply need each other
in times like this, We so deeply need to come together,
We so deeply need understanding and compassion and just basic love,
and we're too busy fighting about if someone's wearing a
wig or who you don't date or whatever. We're so
busy not even recognizing that the poison is coming from

(01:03:34):
outside of us and poisoning our our.

Speaker 5 (01:03:39):
Unity, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:03:40):
And it's just like this is one of those things
that really saddens me, and I hope and I pray
that we could connect to each other and speak to
each other in a way that makes sense so that
we could get past all the bullshit.

Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
Yeah, I agree, I agree. So what do you think
about the clip with Sweetie? I saw it on TikTok.

Speaker 8 (01:03:58):
They were like, they talk about pretty privileged, but they
talk about pretty punishment. There's been so many times I've
just been counted out, and I know that it's behind animosity.
I know it's because of a hidden agenda, but it
makes me work harder. But this has happened like my
whole life.

Speaker 3 (01:04:13):
So it's like what I deal with.

Speaker 8 (01:04:15):
In the industry is just you know, different face, same case.

Speaker 3 (01:04:20):
How did it make you feel when you saw it first?

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
Like with the perspective of me saying that, I don't
think she was talking about her colorism, but as the
deliverer of the message, it's hard to not. I know
that part of the experience is that too. It probably
is probably talking about both.

Speaker 4 (01:04:36):
Definitely, she's been hated on absolutely by all the above
that you said.

Speaker 3 (01:04:41):
Definitely she has.

Speaker 4 (01:04:43):
Honestly, what I thought is like I thought pretty privilege
actually helped when you're an artist of mainstream of it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
Well, that's well usually that's another thing. Isn't privilege supposed
to be for the benefit?

Speaker 4 (01:04:54):
Well, I see how it can work in both. It
can work in both ways. People like, yeah, but this.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
Woman was talking about pretty privilege as if it was
like she never she didn't even reference pretty punishment. Maybe
this is a new term, because you know, the Internet
loves new terms. The opposite of privilege is punishment essentially.

Speaker 4 (01:05:13):
And I think people also in the comments like, well,
like it's also hard to like, is Sweety like a
little kim Like?

Speaker 3 (01:05:23):
Is she a lyricist?

Speaker 5 (01:05:24):
Is she NICKI Minaj?

Speaker 4 (01:05:25):
It's like there's also going to be that that argument,
you know what I mean. So, I think when you
say things publicly, you have to really considerable.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
I mean, so, let's be honest. Everyone has always said
Sweety is like not that great of an artist.

Speaker 4 (01:05:38):
I wasn't going to say it. I wasn't going to
be the one to say it. But I'm also like,
I'm not I didn't deep dive into her albums either.

Speaker 5 (01:05:46):
She's a cancer.

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
For the record, I just want to say, I love you,
I like her, I like her music, like I'm doing
rich Ship is pretty pussy way I'm a way to sign.

Speaker 4 (01:06:01):
She's out California. I get it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
Is she the best artist in like that I've ever heard?
The best?

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
No is she got a battle rap?

Speaker 3 (01:06:10):
Is she creative? And is she creative?

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
And she's been around and sustained a career and as
a business woman and is making moves in this industry.

Speaker 3 (01:06:18):
She just became like the creative director for music for
the NFL.

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
Like whether or not you want to hate on Sweetie
so Weedy or the fuck you say her name, she's
doing shit, you know what I mean? And so I
think it's like such a it's so easy for people
to just hate on people's art no matter what. She's
a fucking artist. She's showing up in her art and creating.
That's better than half you niggas.

Speaker 3 (01:06:35):
Half niggas didn't even start your fucking art career.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
You say you want to be a rapper, you say
you want to be a fucking artist, a painter, and
you're not even selling your shit. Like, at least this
person or people who who people always talk shit about
their art. At least they're showing up. At least they're
doing at least there's art to do. At least they're
getting it off, you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (01:06:53):
Okay, I have a question.

Speaker 4 (01:06:54):
Yes, as a pretty woman, do you think you have
experienced or pretty punishment or more pretty.

Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
Privilege, pretty privilege, I would have to say the same
for sure, Like I mean, I honestly, I'm trying to
think one I've experienced pretty punishment.

Speaker 3 (01:07:09):
I'm sure I have.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
I'm sure I have, But I'm more aware of the
of the privilege of it all.

Speaker 4 (01:07:15):
And I think in any like in any privilege, there's
gonna be someone that's gonna hate on you. And I
think also like when you show up in this world,
you have to also be realistic in ways in which
you show up, in how you make certain people comfortable,
and like even as a woman, even without pretty privilege,
you know how to utilize your womanness to get what
you want when you're you know what I mean, Like

(01:07:37):
I know when I show up in a certain room,
and I could check my environment and see how I
show up that's going to make you feel comfortable, So
I can get what I want in a room full
of women, if you're in a woman for older black women,
if you're from a young white woman or like you
or a bunch of old boys, like white guys from
the office, like as the only you know how you

(01:08:01):
conduct yourself in that environment. That is a part of
being a human, you camouflage the environment. And I think
maybe because I've worked in hospitality for so long, in
bars and like with different types of groups, I notice
like the way people relate differently, and I know even
like there's body type privilege, Like I know, I'm petite,
I'm skinny, I kid, you know what I mean. Like
there's how I talk how everybody has privilege and punishment

(01:08:27):
in ways, and you utilize what.

Speaker 5 (01:08:30):
Works for you.

Speaker 4 (01:08:31):
Personality privilege, personality privilege, funny privilege.

Speaker 5 (01:08:35):
You know, I have extrovert.

Speaker 3 (01:08:37):
Privilege, privilege and privilege. Everything we privilege to our existence
is a privilege.

Speaker 5 (01:08:43):
It is, it is, it is.

Speaker 4 (01:08:45):
And lean into a good personality, lean into that, I agree,
and love yourself.

Speaker 3 (01:08:54):
Love yourself, y'all. We are obviously very high. I think
it's hoary time a horry someone. Actually I got the email?

Speaker 5 (01:09:02):
Oh you did, Yeah, you found it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:03):
We're getting them.

Speaker 4 (01:09:04):
We are, yeah, I'm not gonna lie. We we didn't
know where those emails are going for a minute, but
now we found it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:10):
So make sure you click the link in this episode,
or go to our website, Good momspad Choices dot com
and click on contact us and submit your hories, or
just join our discord because that's where I got one
in discord from somebody, and then I got one from
our email. But just WoT our discord because then we
can we can really deep dive into your hory in
real time. Me and you, you know, we could talk

(01:09:31):
about it because I usually have follow up questions and
I can't follow up because this is an email, you
know what I mean. So if you're not on if
you're not on discord, join our Patreon and.

Speaker 4 (01:09:40):
Also leave your numbers so maybe we can call you live.

Speaker 3 (01:09:43):
That would be great.

Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
And because me and Mila have are known to do that,
we have definitely sent many, many, many many a voice
note to some bitches.

Speaker 4 (01:09:50):
Many even yeah, face calls, face calls facetimes.

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
Okay, so this is an anonymous hohorry. One time I
was minding my business and not one, but four guys
asked me out on a date. So I went on
these dates, and you know, mama needs some loving, So
I asked the four guys for some dick. Tell me
why all of them came too soon? And they were

(01:10:15):
just pumping, not even taking the time. Man, they were
so whack. I ended up giving having a masturbate to
this porn just to get my nut off. But that
being said, I'm glad I've settled down with my new man,
and I'm glad to say I blocked all four of
them dickless men. Wait, maybe I wouldn't clarify. She went
on a date with four guys in the same day.
I fucked all four of them. Oh, and all of

(01:10:37):
them came too soon, so she was very left unsatisfied
by four different men.

Speaker 5 (01:10:41):
That sounds like field research.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
Maybe it wasn't the same day, but they I'm gonna
imagine I'm gonna up the anti and just say the
same day.

Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
Yeah, yeah, that would be a breakfast, lunch, snack snacking.

Speaker 5 (01:10:57):
Damn too soon.

Speaker 3 (01:10:58):
All of them. I was trying to tell you something, girl.

Speaker 5 (01:11:01):
But there's like an issue.

Speaker 4 (01:11:02):
I think this is like an epidemic of men who
don't know how to fuck. They're scared, they don't know
how to connect, they don't know how to like.

Speaker 2 (01:11:09):
It might be their diet they diet. Well, yeah, there's
that too. There's like a numbness in their body that
they're not connected with. They have no self control, or
they just don't give a fuck. Because I think a
lot of people are just selfish masturbating.

Speaker 3 (01:11:20):
They're like, oh, it feels so good. Whatever, fucking I'm nutting.

Speaker 4 (01:11:22):
You're like wait, what hello, but you know you don't
want to savor you don't want it to like last
a little longer because like you don't have to like
kiss and like get my pussy.

Speaker 2 (01:11:30):
What I mean, it's not even that he might have
did all that, but he just came too soon, you
know what I mean. Like, I'm bribe dating a guy
who like every time, like he wouldn't even consider me.

Speaker 3 (01:11:41):
It was just like all right, here I go. I'm like,
wait he.

Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
Checked in at all with me, Like this is now
the sixth time like in a row. At first, I
was like, maybe it was just that time, you know bitches, Yeah,
maybe it was just that time that time. Wait, maybe
we came together that time. And then I'm like, wait,
you really just don't give a fuck.

Speaker 5 (01:11:57):
You actually really annoy it's annoying.

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
I think that's a lot of people, unfortunately. If you're
listening and triggered, I'm sorry, Well.

Speaker 4 (01:12:04):
We need to we need to have like a so
we need to do something about this, something about this.

Speaker 5 (01:12:10):
We need to teach the men this is an issue.

Speaker 3 (01:12:13):
I'm going to solve this to you, guys.

Speaker 2 (01:12:15):
Called me La, She's she'll teach your men and her
tanker practices.

Speaker 3 (01:12:18):
I'm listening to some audio and.

Speaker 2 (01:12:21):
Stop, stop get to the edge.

Speaker 3 (01:12:25):
Yeah, I think I'll do it.

Speaker 4 (01:12:26):
Pull your actually, just pull your balls down, your dick up,
just play this when you start having sex.

Speaker 3 (01:12:31):
Put your thumbing your buttole.

Speaker 5 (01:12:34):
Now raise her titty around the nipple.

Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
I was more so talking about them stopping coming when
they're about to not yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:12:42):
But like take your time.

Speaker 4 (01:12:43):
We're gonna get you all the way there, so you
don't just jump in and and then.

Speaker 2 (01:12:47):
Yeah, there's nothing worse than that, especially if you're getting
some good dick, you're like, what the fuck?

Speaker 3 (01:12:52):
And then the guys like that's.

Speaker 2 (01:12:54):
My least when I am for the men listening, don't
even fuck me or anyone for that matter.

Speaker 3 (01:13:03):
And yeah, if you don't have enough.

Speaker 2 (01:13:06):
Ammunition just in case afterwards, like just in case I
didn't get mine off, Like I need you to have
that in reserve.

Speaker 3 (01:13:13):
Okay, I need you to have that in reserve, because
that's we have it in reserve.

Speaker 4 (01:13:17):
And if you generally don't need yeah, you have to
check in with your diet. You have to check in
with your exercise routine to check in with like.

Speaker 2 (01:13:23):
Are you And if you don't have any reserve, at
least have these fingers in reserve. At least have this
mouth in reserve. The mouth always has to be you
got to have something for me. The mouth is the
national reserve.

Speaker 3 (01:13:33):
This is a reciprocal relationship. Okay, love you. I like that.

Speaker 4 (01:13:36):
The mouth, the tongue is a national reserve. It's always
there for sitting.

Speaker 2 (01:13:42):
Yeah, it's just there waiting waiting to be used. I
mean it's actually like the strongest muscle in our body.

Speaker 4 (01:13:47):
So and you should be like working with it and
also like just happy to give it, offer it.

Speaker 5 (01:13:52):
Oh no, you did it.

Speaker 3 (01:13:54):
The tongue in the ass too, strongest muscles in our body.
Not by accident. Okay, that's the glutes. I don't about
the asshole.

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
You just meant like, the ass is a very strong muscle,
and so is the tongue, so to go together.

Speaker 4 (01:14:09):
I mean, women can really just nut off like just
humping on your butt.

Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
I can't, but you can't. Let's just not categorize all
women as humpers. Okay, just because you can hump a
pillow and come, are you calling me a humper?

Speaker 3 (01:14:23):
You've called yourself sumper, a little rabbit?

Speaker 5 (01:14:27):
Are you asleep?

Speaker 3 (01:14:28):
Just turn over?

Speaker 5 (01:14:34):
Oh my god?

Speaker 3 (01:14:35):
All right, it's tarot time, y'all. Do you want me
to play for.

Speaker 2 (01:14:51):
Six of cups? Shout out to Mahogany Taro. We only
have black owned tarot cards here, y'all. Make sure you
check out mahogany Taro. The fifth of cups? What does
it represent?

Speaker 3 (01:15:04):
Sixth? Or the fifth? Sorry? The sixth? Sorry, I can't count?

Speaker 5 (01:15:07):
Okay, backwards hitting the backword is hitting hitting?

Speaker 3 (01:15:10):
Let me hit that backward again? Because tarot feels like
the perfect time. Just take this.

Speaker 4 (01:15:16):
The sixth cups is revisiting the past, childhood memories, innocence joy.
The sixth a cup as a card that takes you
back to the happy memories from your past, whether as
a child, teenager, or young adult. You may simply be
revisiting those memories in your mind, or you may travel

(01:15:36):
back to your childhood home to reconnect with your childhood friends.
You could go to a high school reunion and reconnect
with an old buddy. A teenage sweetheart or past lover
may turn up again. These connections bring you a sense
of joy and happiness as you reminisce over all the
fun times you had together.

Speaker 5 (01:15:52):
Take this occasion to.

Speaker 4 (01:15:53):
Explore whether you still have a lot in common and
if you wish to continue the relationship now. The six
of Cups often shows an increased level of harmony and
cooperation in your relationships. You're ready to give and receive
without expectation. You're also willing to give each other the
benefit of the doubt. Having moved on from the challenging
emotions of the Five of Cups, it's time to turn

(01:16:13):
over a new leaf and start afresh from a more
positive place.

Speaker 3 (01:16:17):
Hmmm.

Speaker 4 (01:16:18):
Get in touch with the inner child and experience fun, freedom,
innocence that comes with being a young child again.

Speaker 3 (01:16:24):
Yes, I need that. I need to hear that. I said.

Speaker 4 (01:16:27):
You might want to sit down with the coloring book,
dance like no one is watching, play your favorite childhood games,
or spend time around happy children, happy children, not unhappy ones,
not unhappy ones.

Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
Oh my god, I didn't tell you. When I was
in New York, our friend had a baby and I
saw the baby on.

Speaker 3 (01:16:44):
Like five hours after its birth. Who cool?

Speaker 5 (01:16:47):
Oh she just gave birth?

Speaker 3 (01:16:49):
Yes, and went to the hospital that day. Oh my, oh.

Speaker 5 (01:16:52):
My god, I forgot about those times.

Speaker 2 (01:16:55):
I haven't been around a newborn human in a long time,
and it was crazy what it did for my soul.

Speaker 3 (01:17:00):
Like it was it was so oh.

Speaker 4 (01:17:02):
My god, there should be like because they just came
from sources.

Speaker 2 (01:17:05):
Yeah, like we didn't have like a newborn baby experience. Yeah,
like they want to bring your newborn babies, they have
to be with between ten and fourteen hours.

Speaker 4 (01:17:14):
You just put their heads together and you like meditate
world peace.

Speaker 3 (01:17:16):
Oh my god, you might be onto something.

Speaker 2 (01:17:18):
When I went, I had told her I was gonna
be in New York and I knew that she was
gonna give birth around that time.

Speaker 3 (01:17:22):
And she was like, I'm gonna be with aught. I
don't know, like.

Speaker 2 (01:17:24):
She was just managing my expectations. And I was like,
it's cool, girl whatever. Come see anyway, she texted me,
I happened to be like near the hospital, and.

Speaker 3 (01:17:33):
She was like, I just had a baby five hours ago. Come.

Speaker 2 (01:17:35):
I was like coming, And I went and I just
walked in and I just like, they're just I almost
was scared to touch him. I was like, oh my god,
can I like it just came from you, like I
don't want to. I want to like respect, you know,
people like, yeah, the bubble that's being created, and obviously
like i was invited into that bubble and I'm so grateful.

Speaker 3 (01:17:53):
But it was just like he's so sacred, That's what
it was. It was like so sake grade, the sacred
energy that.

Speaker 2 (01:18:02):
Like untainteded and just so new, and I'm just I'm
so happy for her.

Speaker 3 (01:18:07):
Nicle. Shout out to Nicole. She's been a guest on
our show.

Speaker 2 (01:18:11):
She wrote a book called Generational Silence, and she came
I think she came on last year. And she's an amazing,
amazing woman. This year was that this year Jesus Christ,
this year four years that was that was not that much.
She was pregnant to my brain. Yeah, So shout out
to Nicole and Kelsey, congratulations on your baby.

Speaker 3 (01:18:31):
I love you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:18:33):
And I was just like, so I was just so
grateful to be in the presence of new life. And yeah,
it made me feel It made me also feel like Okay, yeah,
like I can do that.

Speaker 3 (01:18:45):
I could do that. I want that.

Speaker 5 (01:18:48):
Yeah, I do like this.

Speaker 4 (01:18:51):
Yeah because you're like in it, you're at the hospital.

Speaker 2 (01:18:53):
Yeah, because I you know, I've I've gone back and
forth over the years. I mean more recently I've felt
more like yes, but it's being actually in the presence
of the newness is was like, oh my god, it
was a boy and he's a boy, and yeah, so anyway,
this this card speaks to me. It reminded me too
of just like getting in touch with my and appreciating

(01:19:14):
also my daughter at this age and just like everything
is moving so quickly and tapping into we have this opportunity.
We talk about a lot about like tapping into your
inner child, and as parents we have children in our house,
like we literally have the example there, and often we
reject it, like I don't want to play with barbies.
I don't want to do this, and it's actually it
could be an opportunity for you to actually exercise the

(01:19:34):
thing that present you're running away from. And like, of
course we're grown, like we don't want to play with
barbies anymore, but at some point you did.

Speaker 3 (01:19:42):
You know, at some point some of.

Speaker 2 (01:19:43):
These stupid as activities that you don't really enjoy it,
you did enjoy so like that connection still exists, and
sometimes it's really about getting back getting on the fucking floor,
get on the floor and just be.

Speaker 5 (01:19:54):
Riding the bike going to the cart.

Speaker 3 (01:19:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:19:56):
Yeah, bike riding is fun.

Speaker 3 (01:20:00):
So yeah, that's it.

Speaker 5 (01:20:01):
And also we need it.

Speaker 4 (01:20:02):
We need to get the fuck off the phone to
delete social but first and subscribe to this show.

Speaker 3 (01:20:09):
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Speaker 4 (01:20:11):
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Speaker 3 (01:20:14):
I know, we've been talking about it for weeks.

Speaker 2 (01:20:16):
It's just that we are trying to make it as
perfect as possible for you guys, and make sure that
you know we're taking our time, so be be aware, be.

Speaker 3 (01:20:26):
Aware, I'm high.

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Speaker 3 (01:21:05):
Anyway, love you Bane.

Speaker 1 (01:21:09):
Yeah, I'm living so good, can't you tell I went
through a drought. That's until I find out, well, maym
have been known? Earth that used to be broken tail
now got the blues in to like Beyonce just saw
throat shot and popping his car wearing our voices. Patriarchy
kept it in the box to exploit it. Women put
the pee in power, so it's pointing that they want
me to be good.

Speaker 3 (01:21:28):
So I made bad choices. Bad mom, not a bad mom,
but a bad mom.

Speaker 5 (01:21:32):
Itter's in on put cannabis in their bath.

Speaker 1 (01:21:35):
Bon walked in Bosts cap and I blew his cat
ball tip dog. Now I'm immune to the cat called
Herbie and no waisted straight to it like a dollar sign. Mother,
rent the number when to it is like a water
sign where you're renting winter essential will when the summer time.
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