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August 18, 2025 63 mins

This week on the Granger Smith Podcast, we tackle one of the wildest conspiracy theories floating around: Project Blue Beam. Is there really a plan to use advanced holograms, UFO stories, and staged events to create a one-world government—or even fake the Second Coming of Christ?

Granger and Ant dig into the history of this theory, how modern technology fuels it, and why believers shouldn’t live in fear. Instead of getting lost in speculation, we go straight to Scripture to see what God’s Word actually says about truth, deception, and the real return of Jesus.

Along the way, we also share updates on the upcoming live podcast tour with Granger and Amber, talk about Amber’s upcoming book release, and answer listener emails that keep the conversation raw, real, and relevant. If you’ve ever wondered how to sort through conspiracies, keep your faith grounded, and find peace in uncertain times—this episode is for you.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The rumor is, and we're going to address this, that
maybe the government, or even worse, a deep state collaborative government,
is trying to simulate a second coming of Christ. How
crazy is that? Let's discuss You think the government is

(00:30):
going to try to manipulate some kind of holographic second
coming in that people might actually believe it. Is that
what we're talking about today?

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Yeah? Yeah, and it comes I know, I had an email.
I had an email come into the podcast when you
actually had somebody else say something to do about it.
And I think once we have something like that happen,
it's like confirmation. We need to discuss it here, we
can talk about it. It's something we talk about and
we're kind of colliding to worlds right now too.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
This is very after Midnight Talk, Yeah, which is our
radio show, and we talk about things because people are
listening overnight. It's dark outside, they're working jobs, they're sometimes
truckers that are on the open road, and they're you know,
rolling around really deep topics. That's kind of what this
one sounds like. And we I don't want to be

(01:17):
a conspiracy type podcast. I don't want to do that.
In fact, it's the opposite I want to take conspiracies
occasionally and just dismantle them, yes, with that word, instead
of instead of run them down these rabbit holes. I
want to say, hang on a second, let's use the
word the scripture and dismantle and just just pull pull
its legs off of it. And that's that's what we're

(01:39):
going to try to do today.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
I think it's important too. Since twenty twenty, everybody's minds,
whether you're a conspiracy theorist or not, has wandered down
the lane of a conspiracy or wanner right. You know,
so you've had thoughts like what if one of these
is true? And what happens? And you know, how would
I know the different especially something like this, How would
I know the difference between that? And then your mind

(02:00):
starts playing tricks on your like, man, would I even
know if it wasn't if it wasn't Jesus coming back
and you Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
And by the way, what we're not saying is that
all conspiracies are false. That is by no means. I
think a lot of these conspiracies are true. The one
we're about to talk about it, I haven't heard the
email yet, but that very well might be true. Use COVID.
Was COVID a conspiracy? Was you know, the vaccines? Maybe
it was nine to eleven of a conspiracy. Maybe that's

(02:30):
when I say dismantle conspiracies. That's not what I mean.
I'm not saying we're going to take some a truth
claim of a conspiracy and make sure everyone knows it's
actually false. I'm not smart enough to do that enough.
I don't have enough research or enough college degrees to
do that, and I don't have the time to read
every book about nine to eleven or vaccines. Now, we

(02:52):
could discern on our own, with common sense a couple
of these, but that's not the point. The point is
we're using scripture to say, stop being afraid of these
type things, Right, that's what we want to do. That's
what I mean. Take the legs off of it. Take
the legs off of the anxiety, the worry, the constantly

(03:14):
feeling like someone is coming to get you. And when
they do, when the men in the black mask and
the black suburban sew it at your door, don't worry.
You're in great hands. That's what that's what we're doing.
But before we get into this email and run down
this whatever the rabbit hole this is. I'm excited about
this because I've heard it from two different sources that

(03:35):
this actually might be a thing.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
Yeah, and it's old too, by the way, this conspiracy
is really old.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
And apparently like adapting to New Top.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
Sure, yeah, yeah, I think. And we'll get into this
thing a little bit. But when it was first proposed,
none of the technology existed. But here we are in
twenty twenty five, fascinating and a lot of.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
The technology actually exists.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
But since the last episode, tickets have gone on sale
for the live tour.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
Yeah, so how are you feeling about it? Great?

Speaker 2 (04:05):
I mean, it's my first one. So how are you
feeling about it? You know how this feels.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
I am very comfortable with this because touring is something
I've done for a very long time. So being on
stage doing what we're doing right now in front of
a live audience seems very natural. In fact, this is
what feels unnatural, is going for so long without it all. Yeah, okay,

(04:29):
I got it. In fact, we have a red couch
over here that's empty. Sometimes we have a guest and
but it's empty, and I kind of I'm kind of
thinking we should just have random people friends that we're
pouring into come on you know, yeah, hey, what are
you doing at noon? Come on over and right say.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
It with us. Once we get our routine day like
we're it's funny. As soon as we get something settled
I either room, we shake things up again and then
one of us proposes, hey, what if we did this
and now, I mean even things on the radio show
are changing.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
Things on the podcast are changing, and it's funny.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
It's like, soon as we can kind of get a
handle on this, that'd be cool, just have people to
pop in.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
And it does. So we plan on having Kirk Cameron
coming up on the next episode. That's the plan, how
l Rod dear friend, possibly even then the one after that.
We can make our plans. The Lord establishes our steps.
So we plan on these things. But as those are
two in a row of people that will be on
the TV screen here yeah or no, how will be
in person?

Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yeah he lives close to us.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
Yeah, he lives in Austin. Kirk will be on TV.
So we could have people come and sit in and
just listen or watch, so that that could be fun.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
Love so go to I would say the tour. You
can buy tickets, right now grangersmith dot com slash tour,
And there are five cities that we're going to have
you ever memorized yet, I do not McPherson Kansas, Kansas,
Coming Georgia, Georgia, Arlington, Texas, Texas, Franklin, Tennessee, Tennessee.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
And Ashland, Kentucky. Ashland, Kentucky. Yeah, okay, And.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
You can see the dates. You can get the tickets.
They're available now, you can buy them now. Franklin and
Franklin's one that's going to be hard one. It's not
as many tickets as the other one. And we both
have lived there and worked in Nashville for a long time.
Not that they're coming to see me, but what I
mean is that we all have people there that are going, Hey,
I can't wait to see it.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
That one. I'm a little worried about that.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
More people have said that than I know tickets are.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
I don't worry about that. And then then there's people
right now in California and Oregon and Washington going, hey,
West coast here, what's going on? Uh? And to that,
we're sorry. We plan on doing more of these type things.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
There were a few that we were trying to iron
out details for that just didn't It just didn't work out.
Their dates didn't match what we could do, and what
we could do didn't match what they had available. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
Yeah, so I had to say, all right, next one,
we'll do it again. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
Yeah, God willing Man, I'm excited to see how this
first one, this first tour goes these first five cities.
And again, just honored that you guys asked me to
go with you.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
It's gonna be fun. We're gonna have a relaxed environment,
enough meet and greets, we'll meet everyone that comes. We'll
have and we'll probably I'm imagining that we'll it'll be
very open. We'll have conversations with people in the audience
as we're talking. It's gonna be it's gonna be a
very unique experience. And what do you call it a

(07:22):
night with Granger number, a night.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
With the Well, I think we tried to complicate, like, oh,
let's think of something really like, but it's a night
with Granger Number. Yeah, what if we just called it
what it is?

Speaker 1 (07:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Yeah, yeah, that's what a night with Granger number. And
of course Amber's book's coming out October fourteenth. The Girl
in the Bathroom Floor and all kind of kind of
goes around all of that as well. And man, what
a what an exciting time. Of course, I've read your
book read like a river. I haven't read hers yet.
I'm excited to read this.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
I haven't read it since she's done a lot of edits.
Oh okay, got it. So when I first read it,
I loved it because it it literally felt like reading
text messages from her. There wasn't it's it's not that casual. Yeah,
it's casual. That's a good word. It's very casual writing.
And so it's very casual reading. You don't feel like

(08:16):
you're trying to grasp the narrative that she's trying to spend.
It's just like, hey, here's the deal. It is it
text message type and the whole book is like that. Wow. Yeah,
it's very very easy to read. I love that. That's great.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
October fourteenth is when her book comes out. Tickets for
the live tour on sale now, grangersmith dot com, Slash Tour,
all of them are there and you can buy tickets now.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
So, speaking of grangersmith dot com, if you want to
ask a question for this podcast or for the live tour,
but specifically like what we're going to do today? Email
podcast at grangersmith dot com. Podcast at grangersmith dot com.
It could be about any subject. We have done this
for eight years, going on nine years now. Answer questions

(09:05):
in this fashion. So podcast at grangersmith dot com. As
the last week's episode, hater call said, who is Granger Smith?
That you are qualified to answer a question just failed
country music? Why would I ask a question to failed

(09:25):
country singer Granger Smith?

Speaker 2 (09:27):
If you're confused right now, you need to go watch
last week's.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
Yeah, And to his point, that's probably a good question, Buddy,
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
I get a lot out of asking you questions and
hearing your answers.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
So it's more. And I've said that there's a reason
I've said this from the beginning. The questions here in
this podcast is supposed to feel like we're driving down
the road, two people in the cab of a truck
and you say, hey, Granger, I talked to you about something.
Something's been on my mind. I say, yeah, what is it?
And you go into a question. I answer it. I've

(10:01):
said this before as if I'm a friend reacting in
real time to your question. That's the way it's supposed
to be. It's not supposed to feel like you're sitting
on a on a green couch and I had, because
I have all these stacked up psychological degrees, I'm going
to systematically walk through you. My No, I'm just gonna
say you, buddy, If I was you, I would do this.

(10:21):
If I were you, I would cut this off. If
I were you, I'd tell her I'm blocking you on Facebook,
whatever it might be. That's that's the way I want
this to be.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
All right, you want to share your story or would
you like me to read the email?

Speaker 1 (10:36):
Which one should read the email? Read the email which
once again podcastergrangersment dot com and this this is a conspiracy.
Apparently it's a very weird one. But I think there's
people listening right now that go, yep, that's happening.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Okay, well what do you Let's see it's a Hey Granger,
I hope you're doing well. I came across something recently
called Project Bluebeam, this conspiracy theory about a supposed global
deception involving advanced holograms and staged events to usher in
some kind of one world religion or government. I'm curious

(11:12):
what your thoughts are on it, and do you think
there's any truth to it at all or is it
just another far out Internet rumor. If it were true,
what do you think the impact would be for believers?
Would something like this be a major deception that could
shape people's faith or do you think those rooted in
Christ would be able to see right through it. I'd
love to hear your perspective, especially from a biblical standpoint,

(11:35):
because I'm just trying to wrap my head around what's
real here and what's just noise.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Looking forward to your thoughts.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
John, It's fascinating. I've heard of this before.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
I don't know if it's We're not going to figure
out if this is real or not, but it's an
interesting thought exercise.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
I did some research on what it is and when
it started. But you, somebody said, and the reason we're
talking about this now is because.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
Sean from Keeping It Dutch YouTube channel Shawn text me,
and I love Sean and he is he is a believer,
and he but he gets down these rabbitals. Oh yeah,
oh yeah. I don't know how far he goes, but
he'll send me things occasionally. Now, the thing he sent
me was a did I send it to you? Let's

(12:21):
play it. But but it is it is not as
much of a second Coming, which I guess Project Bluebeam
is kind of all encompassing different scenarios that might happen
for the purpose of one world government.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
Is that right, Right, that's the idea. And I'll share
a little bit of this too with the end. I
think right from the start, with the names that I'm
going to say, for believers, you'll instantly it'll instantly give
you insight into going, Okay, if they try this, there's
there's people that are going to go instantly, this is
not real.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
But you want to watch this video? Yeah, But what
I was gonna say is that this video is one
sliver of the scenario and it's not a second Coming
of Christ. This is instead an arrival of a spacecraft
and it's the manipulation of a false flag news story
that there is a spaceship coming from another planet to

(13:26):
our country with the purpose of us unifying as a
world and going we better come together to get ready
for the arrival of these UFO people. And but like
eventually that's got to give you know. But I guess
what they want to accomplish is they I don't know

(13:47):
who they is, they want to bring us together under
one world rule. And then by the time that happens,
then it's too late. When we figure out there wasn't
actually a spacecraft coming, then it's too late. We're already
under this regime. Yeah, that's kind of thing.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
Clearly, a long time NASA insider just blew the lid
of something huge. According to this whistleblower, the agency, along
with other federal players, is already laying the groundwork for
a global conm epic proportion.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
The plan is simple and terrifying.

Speaker 4 (14:21):
Step one social conditioning. If you've noticed the sudden flood
of UFO stories on mainstream media, that's not my accidents.
It's a carefully crafted narrative designed to prep the masses
for what comes next. Because in twenty twenty five, Eligue
plan to stage the ultimate force flag, a fake alien
invasion the gold, to terrify the world into submission, unite

(14:43):
humanity under one banner, and roll out a one old
government in the name of survival. And if that sounds
insane to you, that's exactly what they're counting on.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
Here's the thing.

Speaker 4 (14:53):
We've got the documents, lead emails, PowerPoint presentations with even
Project Code News prove that this isn't just a conspiracy
giving it's a plan that's been decades in the making.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
Back in January, filmmaker and investigator Jeremy Corbell dropped a
bike bombshell. Insiders have known for decades what's coming in
late twenty twenty five.

Speaker 4 (15:11):
This is in sudden, it's not spontaneous. The plans have
been embushed behind his most three years.

Speaker 5 (15:17):
But the lie is covered all indications, like all of them.
Is it? That lie is going to be There is
a crowd slowly making its way to us here on earth,
and that is the lie they're going to want you
to believe.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
You do want to find fascinating of this whole thing
is that they're making their plans on PowerPoint.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
The power point We've got the power points.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
Yes, we've got the documents.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
Oh yeah, that's funny. So I don't believe that it's
going to happen the fall of twenty twenty five, and
this is a couple months we're talking to like it
needs to happen right now where you find out of
this craft. But once again that that's not the point.
The point of this podcast is not whether or not
these guys are right or whether these guys are wrong,
it definitely sounds like a legitimate plan that somebody would,

(16:14):
you know, some evil master mind would have to take
over do will you know that there's that Whether or
not they could do it or not, maybe they can,
it's not my concern. My concern is to take the
legs out of the fear, the anxiety of such a claim.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
Because even if it's not this, if it's something else,
if it's if it's COVID two point zero or whatever,
you want to you know that, I mean, think about
how much fear that really swept and gripped a lot
of people through twenty twenty and of just understanding truly
what we're dealing with here. Nothing outside of God's control,
nothing now, even if it's the worst pandemic ever. Nothing

(16:56):
Like I did read something the other day is like, man,
life is short. You got to do whatever, Like nobody
says eternity is long. You should start thinking about that,
like this is so short?

Speaker 1 (17:10):
Oh man, yeah, right, Okay.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
So this whole thing started in the nineteen nineties. As
my daughter Grace would say, it is a fifth grader man,
the nineteen hundreds. Dad, you were born in the nineteen hundreds.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
Wow, yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
It started in the nineteen hundreds claiming or nineteen nineties
claiming NASA and the United Nations plan to use advanced holograms,
fake alien invasions, and mind control to dismantle religions and
establish a one world government. Now, earlier, I said that
when this started, this technology did not seem plausible. Twenty

(17:46):
twenty five though, it definitely seems plausible with I mean,
we've all seen the robot dancing and doing backflips, and
everybody here watching, listening today has probably used chat GPT
for something. So when this started, this is this is
way far out. It was proposed by a Canadian journalist,

(18:07):
Surge Monast. It outlines four steps falsifying archaeological discoveries, okay,
projecting religious figures in the sky. I'll get to that
a little bit just a seconds. See broadcasting voices into
people's heads Okay, I'm not really sure what that is.

(18:28):
And staging supernatural events.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
So that that could include a craft moving slowly like
they said, moving slowly correct our direction.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
Okay, you remember watching Independence Day? Yeah, Like, I thought
that was the most amazing technology to have to be
able to do in a movie, and I watched it
again the other day, I go, some of this is
really cheesy. Yeah yeah, And but if it looks so
real today, and if it's just broadcast, you know, I
don't know if you can they would be able to
do it in real time where people could see it.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
But yeah, well that's that's that movie is the example
of what we're talking about exactly. That's that the world
came together. Yep, everybody came there. Everybody came together save
the world.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
Yeah yeah, okay. So the core claims is that simulated
Second Coming. So this is one of the cores to
this is the theory alleges that NASA will use advanced
technology to project realistic, large scale holograms of religious figures Jesus, Mohammed, Buddha,
et cetera. So I'm wondering do they do they divide

(19:32):
it up by part of the world, Like America gets
Jesus and somebody else gets Mohammed, and like and they're
all going up here at the same time.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Is it like Star Wars when you see Obi Wan
and Yoda and Anakin and then you know, and happy gilmore,
the same thing happens, you know, that's right over the house.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
Yeah with uh, what was the guy with the one
hand jobs? Or yes, exactly Off topic of fake alien invasion,
some versions claim that the project would stage a false
alien invasion to unite humanity under a single world government.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
I wonder if that's already happened. I wonder if that's
been attempted before. Anyway, it was on broadcast radio. Yeah, yeah,
go ahead.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
Worldwide mind control in quotes, The operation would allegedly use
ELF or extremely extremely low frequency waves, telepathy and other
tech to manipulate thoughts and emotions on a global scale,
which I think they kind of do a little bit
in advertising in general. I've heard of that before. Not ELF,

(20:34):
but definitely.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
It could be a whole new level with neuralink too,
or any any kind of chip implanted into your mind.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
Abolishing religion by staging supernatural events and disproving traditional faiths.
The theory claims that the ultimate goal is to usher
in a new one world religion and a government.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
Okay, now we're getting too the Bible. Yeah, that's there.
That's that's fascinating to me. Abolishing religion has been that
that was a that was a Marxist claim. You know
that was that was the idea, you know, one of
the main ideas behind Marxism was let's get rid of religion,
let's just do away with it. And as an atheist,

(21:17):
you could say, that's not a bad idea because it
causes so much division and it prevents people from carrying
out their agenda. Religion does, so let's just abolish it.
But the funny, it's it's funny how you could never
squash it out. I've mentioned to you I talked for
a long time with an atheist, a German atheist. We

(21:40):
talked for over a year, debating back and forth, and
I remember telling him that your idea of squashing out
religion because an atheist would say, let's just get rid
of it, which is in itself a strange argument, because
we live in a country that was bounded on that
there was founded on a Christian worldview, the Christian the

(22:01):
Judeo Christian idea of you know, laber neighbor and and
and don't steal, and don't lie, you know, don't murder,
don't murder, don't covet. So we are actually a really
good nation because of that if as long as we're
abiding by that, whether or not, you're religious or not.
If you're abiding under that world view, it's gonna be

(22:22):
a nice society. But the point is talking to this
guy said, I understand your your idea is to squash
and eradicate religion, but it's you have to admit it's
interesting that it has never been done. You could take
a you could take a family and and and give

(22:44):
false truth to the to the mom and dad so
that they become atheist. But then they have a little
baby somewhere down the road that all of a sudden
starts worshiping. You cannot squash generation after generation after generation
of atheist a these days, and then all of a
sudden there's a baby that worships. You can't get rid
of it. And I'm not talking about just Christianity, because

(23:07):
because as Christians we understand this is spiritual warfare, and
so we we could explain in our worldview the existence
of all the other religions, because we could say, people,
first of all, there will be false christ there will
be false prophets, there will be false gods, all run
by by the by the enemy. But we could explain,

(23:31):
of course there's Islam, of course there's there's Hindu. Of course,
there's there's Buddhist. Of course, there's uh, you know, put
put your false religion in there. Of course, there's the
the Native Americans that were that worship the sun or
whatever it might be in in in the old Mexica.

(23:53):
The earth people have it. People always have a proclivity
to worship because it's it's in us to worship. And
that's not it's not a disease that we have or
that's not a deficiency, that's not ignorance that tells someone
there must not be anything else. So there must be
a God that's not ignorance, that's something else in our

(24:14):
DNA that wants to look up and reach up and organize,
look up, reach up, pray and organize. And so you
get these different factions of religions. So we as Christians,
we go, yeah, yeah, we could explain that why they
are all these flood stories from other religions. Well, we
could explain that why are there messiahs and and God

(24:37):
incarnate perfect representatives of God? You know, why does that
echo throughout humanity? We could explain that an atheists can't
an atheist goes, I want to eradicate it. I want
to crush religion, and it just keeps popping up like
whack a mole. It's like weeds in a garden and
they just keep You cannot pull them enough. They keep

(24:58):
coming up, all right, keep going. Well.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
I was going to say that big thing on this
was why is it popular or why? You know, actually,
I think that it has. It was popular than the
nineteen nineties, and then it kind of faded off. It's
come back up a couple of other times. I've heard
this actual project bluebeing be something that has been brought
up on you know, either podcasts or on tiktoks.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
Or what have you.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
But modern technology, a technology advanced especially with real holograms
deep fakes, that is much more realistic today than ever before,
and AR and VR the theory seems less far fetch
to people today than it did back when it was
first introduced, and it's kind of almost just a thought

(25:43):
in the nineties and now it feels like it could
be much more realistic. Distrust of authority, that's I think
that that is, if if nothing else, one of the
biggest things that happened from twenty twenty was the distrust
of authority and in times of uncertainty, people are more
susceptible to believing in vast secret plots. Blending religion and

(26:04):
sci fi. The idea combines biblical prophecy, ufo lore, and
government conspiracy, appealing to a wide range of audiences. Connective
tissue people who are all about UFOs with things supernatural,
things from the Bible or from stories you've heard in
the past, and and and this being stuff that connects
the two and brings it together.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
And so to that, you know, science has now proven
that we all come, all humanity comes from a single mother. Right,
so you could make that argument, we know that what
that to be Adam and Eve, of course, but you
could make the argument that maybe there was a seed
from an ancient spacecraft, right that delivered and then they
delivered a religious order to keep us in line. But

(26:49):
once again, that theory, which you know, I get, I
understand perfectly, but that theory neglects the idea that that
babies are born and look up and begin to worship
without hearing anything, without learning, without being without being taught
about God. They it's in them. So it doesn't explain

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Speaker 2 (29:25):
There's much more. I mean, it gets really deep and
tell this, but I think that gives you a good
a little below the surface layer of what this whole
theory was about, from from what your friends sent to
you and what the email that came in asking about it,
that I think that what it kind of touches on
is the fear that we have about what happens after

(29:48):
this or there's a lot more time. I mean, we
even talked about a couple episodes ago that someone was asking,
is Trump the Antichrist? People are looking to Oh my gosh,
could we be living in the time that the anti
Christ rises to power and rules over the world. And
what's funny is that I remember being twelve thirteen and thought, oh,

(30:12):
this is going to happen any day. From the messages
in the in the the you know, the inside of
the conservative Christian world. Carmen, the old singer Karmen, some
of his stuff was about you know, end time stuff.
And then we had books and you know, Left Behind
series came in and just all all these thoughts of

(30:34):
two K. Yeah, exactly, oh why two K?

Speaker 1 (30:37):
Why too?

Speaker 2 (30:38):
I've thought about y two K in a long time,
But you're exactly right. I mean, people just thinking oh,
it's all going to end, yes, And the truth is yes,
it will all end, But the Bible talks about how
it will.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
All end, and it's.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
Not going to be Jesus and Muhammad and Buddha up
picking which part of the world that they're going to
appear to. Okay, I'll take this side of the world,
you take the other side. The Bible is very very clear,
and I hope that we can kind of carve out
some time here.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
Yeah. So I think there's a lot of ways to
start here. Where do we find truth? That's that should
probably be the first thing we do. Christians. We don't
base our belief our faith on signs, miraculous signs or

(31:27):
things that we see are our experiences, our feelings. We
don't get our truth there. Those things can supplement our truth, sure,
but they're never the foundation of truth and not the truth,
not the truth. This this works with so many things.

(31:48):
And that's two Timothy three sixteen easy to remember. If
you if you know John three sixteen, then you can
remember two Timothy three sixteen. There's another great three sixteen.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
There's a podcast just going through all the three sixteens
that are Is there really no? I'm saying we should like.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
That there is because you and I have talked about it.
We should make that podcast. There're a lot of significant
three sixteens, first John three sixteens, and an interesting one too. Yes,
So anyway, Two Timothy three sixteen says, all scripture, that's
that's what we're holding here, is breathed out by God.
That's that's the idea that we get. That scripture is inspired.

(32:30):
The human authors that wrote it are inspired by the
Holy Spirit, fully in errant, meaning without error. So all
scriptures breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof,
for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the Man

(32:53):
of God may be complete, otherwise rendered whole, mature, equipped
for every good work, every good work, fully mature, fully whole,
fully equipped for every good work. Essentially. Two Timothy three

(33:13):
sixteen and Paul the Apostles writing to Timothy, who is
his disciples beloved disciple, who's who is in a shepherding
role over a church? Timothy is, and he's telling him, well,
let me back up to the verse fifteen. It's important

(33:33):
excise me fourteen. But as for you, speaking of Timothy,
continue in what you have learned and have firmly believed,
knowing from whom you have learned it, and how from
childhood you've been acquainted with the sacred writings, which is
the Old Testament, which are able to make you wise
for salvation through faith in Jesus Christ. That's interesting. Verse

(33:58):
fourteen fifteen are interesting. Paul's saying, the Old Testament that
you've become acquainted with since childhood, trust this because it
those writings are able to make you wise for salvation
through faith in Christ. All this to say, the Bible

(34:23):
gives us all that we need to be confident in truth.
We don't need anything else. We don't need external signs
or experiences. We don't need to see a vision, a dream,
a supernatural dream of an angel, for instance, Praise the Lord.
I hope everyone gets one. Amazing. But if it contradicts

(34:46):
with what the scripture says, it's false. And even says that, Yes,
if if it in any way contradicts or goes against
our stands alone, apart from scripture or even our adds
to it, it's false. And we could explain that in
our world view and go as from the.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
Enemy Galatians one eight. Yes, it says that, but even
if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you,
a gospel contrary to the one that we preach to you,
Let him be a cursed. As we have said before,
So now I say again, if anyone is preaching to
you a gospel contrary to the one that you received,

(35:23):
let him be a.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
Cursed otherwise rendered damned to hell. Yep, damn it to hell,
that angel that voice that message. Right, that's why we
have that as a cussword. If it's the worst thing
you could say. If an angel comes to you and
gives you anything in addition to our contrary to what
you have in scripture, damn it to hell. That's the

(35:47):
harshest thing you could say to that, to that false
spirit of anti Christ, as we talked about on the
podcast a few episodes ago. Right, So that when you
hear that as a cussword, it's it's.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
Way out of count this one explicit for you.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
That's what Let him be cursed, let him be an aphema,
you know. So we find we root our truth in
scripture before we But I also don't want to just
keep rambling. Do you want do you have anything you

(36:27):
want to add to this? Well?

Speaker 2 (36:29):
I mean to that, I think that the establishment of
a word, we find truth is very important because it
doesn't mean anything if it doesn't mean truth to you.
And in the beginning was the word, the word. The
word was with God, and the word was God. And
then the word became flesh, the flesh Jesus Christ.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
Okay, that's good, let me let me go somewhere else,
then that's great. The the remember in John when Jesus
is in the garden, and it's called in a title
and to get to it called the high priestly prayer.
And it is a beautiful prayer that Jesus is praying

(37:08):
for his people and for the future people. And so
this is in John chapter seventeen, for his future people.
This is for us. He's praying for us. And in
in chapter seventeen, verse seventeen, another easy one to memorize.
It is John seventeen seventeen. Sanctify them, which is us,

(37:32):
sanctify them in the truth? Was that make them holy?
And what's that second part of that verse? Sanctify them
in the truth? Second part Your word is truth.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
Teach them your word, which is truth in the whoa whoa?

Speaker 1 (37:52):
Sanctify them or make them holy through truth? What's truth?
Jesus your word, Father, Jesus proves that in Matthew four.
Let's flip over there, we go to Matthew four. This
is a This is called subtitled the Temptation of Jesus.
This is a This is the beginning of Jesus's ministry.

(38:15):
He is tempted in the desert by the enemy just
after he got baptized, right just after he got baptized.
He's tempted by the devil. That this chapter starts. Then
Jesus was led up by the spirit into the wilderness
to be tempted by the devil. And I said that
I read that first verse just so people know that
I'm not just. I'm not on my own making things up.

(38:37):
The tempter came. Jesus has been fasting for forty days
and forty nine teen, and he was hungry. That's a
good point to remember. The tempter came and said to him,
if you are the son of God, command these stones
to become loaves of bread. But he answered, Jesus answered him,
it is written man shall not live by bread alone,

(39:01):
but from every word that comes from the mouth of God.
So Jesus answered him in truth, which is the word. Okay,
Then he comes back. Then the devil took him, took
him to the Holy City and set him on the
pinnacle of the temple, and said to him, if you
are the son of God, throw yourselves, throw yourself down,
for it is written he will command his angels concerning you.

(39:22):
So now the devil goes, oh, I got a word too.
It is written. I could say that too. I know
the Bible. It is written. He will command his angels
concerning you, and on their hands they will bear you
up lest you strike your foot against the stone. Jesus
said to him again, it is written, you shall not

(39:43):
put the Lord your God to the test. The devil
tempts him again. This time the devil uses scripture and
Jesus comes back at him with truth because his scripture
was out of context. Jesus was in context.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
And I think that's the biggest differentiator there is that
the devil is you using scripture to do something contrary
to what the scriptures say. Yep, hey, you can go
ahead and test. See, he says, I if you you
know this will happen. Yeah, well that's not what it says.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
First Saint. Again, for the third time, the devil took
him up to a very high mountain and showed him
all the kingdoms of the world and their glory. And
he said to him, all these I will give to
you if you will fall down and worship me. Then
Jesus said to him, be gone, Satan, for it is
written here we go back to the truth, back to

(40:33):
the Word. You shall worship the Lord your God, and
him only in him only shall you serve. And the
devil left him, and he was he was sanctified in truth.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
Okay, So can I give tie a couple of things
here together? Is that the whole basis of this first
part from Granger has been when something like this, like
this theory or any other theory, is that you test
it against the word of God, because the Word of
God is truth. Establish the truth first, which is the
Word of God, then you can test. Now here's the deal.

(41:07):
This test, this test of this, this conspiracy theory or
whatever fear you're having in your life, is an open
book test. You get the book and you get to
look the scripture up. And yes, you can go Google,
Go Google, ask GPT where does it talk about X,

(41:27):
Y Z in the Bible and it will give you.
Don't take the actual translation out of Chad GPT, find the.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
Scripture, take correct, take the scripture.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Look, go pull the scripture. It says it's Matthew twenty five,
verse twelve. Go open the Bible and look at Matthew
twenty and see if it answers that question for you.
And then just because something that may be used front
holy things doesn't mean chet GP is just a tool.
It can help your Google is just a tool. It
can help you find stuff that you don't know yet

(41:57):
until it gets into your heart and until it it
finds root in your life, and then the Holy Spirit
will start pulling this stuff back up. If you have
if you're worried about stuff like this, if say specifically.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
This and let me before we get too far from
what you just said, let's make sure that we are Also,
this is for someone you're speaking to, someone who's reading
routinely in their Bibles, and then you're saying, then go
search something on Google to you could find scripture to go.
But that's not for someone who's not reading their Bible

(42:32):
or not engaged with their Bible. They're only searching things
because then you're playing Bible relettx and you're looking for
things to make you feel good. Because you could feel
good all day long in the Bible. You go, I
need this, My flesh needs this. Where's a good Bible
verse to make me feel better?

Speaker 2 (42:47):
Right?

Speaker 1 (42:47):
This isn't it's not advised because you need the whole
counsel's out of context. It's out of context. So let's
read forward systematically through the Bible so that you're going
to be hearing things that your flesh doesn't necessarily want
to hear. Didn't we just read about somebody using it
out of context? Exactly?

Speaker 2 (43:04):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (43:04):
Okay, sorry, President's play again on your The whole.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
Thought of this is that, So I'll pulled up a
few scriptures and the thought is, okay, so if if
the government or the UN or this secret government, whoever
it is that decides to fake a U. Foe invasion
or a fake second coming, how do you know if
it's real or not?

Speaker 1 (43:25):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (43:26):
Well, what we've learned from the beginning is to go
back to the word Matthew twenty four, okay, twenty four
versus twenty three through twenty seven.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
Then if anyone tells you, boy, this is exactly this.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
If anyone tells you, look, here's the Messiah projected in
the clouds from a high tech computer. I don't know
or there he is. Don't believe it. For false messiahs
and false profits will rise up and perform eight signs
and wonders so as to deceive, if possible, even God's

(44:05):
chosen ones. See, I have warned you about this ahead
of time, long before the nineteen hundreds, nineteen nineties.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
I've warned you about it. Yeah, and you can keep going. Yeah,
twenty six yep. So if they say to you, look
he's in the wilderness, do not go out. If they
say look, he's in the inner rooms, do not believe it.
For his lightning comes from the east and shines as
far as the west. So will be the coming of
the sun of man.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
Do you want to know how he's coming back? That
was it, instantly everywhere, Yeah, all over. It's not what
we were talking before we started this. It's not going
to be something trending on TikTok or a video that
someone has that's trending that's got thirty million views on Instagram.

(44:51):
And then we finally well, okay, maybe that is real.
This is something everybody will know all at once, instantly.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
Here is a to the people that want to hear
it instantly on TikTok. Right, here's an interesting one in
Matthew twelve, subtitle subheading the Sign of Jonah. So some
of the scribes and pharisees answered him saying, Teacher, we're
talking to Jesus. We wish to see a sign from you.

(45:22):
But Jesus answered them, an evil and adulterous generation seeks
for a sign, but no sign will be given to
it except the sign of the prophet Jonah. And then
you think, you think, well, what's he talking about here
verse forty For just as Jonah was three days and
three nights in the belly of the great fish, so
will the Son of Man be three days and three

(45:43):
nights in the heart of the earth. So he's predicting
his death and resurrection and saying, you're not gonna get
a sign. You're not gonna get it. You're not gonna
get the face in the clouds, you're not gonna you're
you're not gonna get the writing on the wall. And
in fact, if you're seeking that, if that's what you want,
you are an evil, adulterous generation. He goes on verse

(46:12):
forty one, the men of nine of them will rise
up at the judgment with this generation and condemn it
for they repented at the preaching of Jonah. Behold, something
greater than Jonah is here. That's just fascinating stuff. You know,
this makes me think, too, is we because somebody might
be listening. I'm gonna go to Romans. Somebody might be listening, going, Okay,

(46:38):
you guys have maj your point. You've made your point
that truth is scripture. You trust the scripture. Scripture testifies
of itself as truth. Obviously, Jesus, who's in scripture, uses
scripture to testify truth. He prays to the Father to saying,
to be sanctified in truth. We understand your point. I

(47:00):
think we've made that point. Yes, But how do you know,
aunt man, How do you know, Granger, that that's truth?
How do you that's fine that you say that truth
is is something that you don't need to feel or experience.
It's said it's something objective that you could know. How

(47:21):
do you know? Well, Romans eight is a great place
to and there's a lot of places for all these things,
but Roman's eight sixteen. He's making the argument to the
recipients of this letter to not fall back into what

(47:41):
he calls the spirit of slavery or back into fear,
as they once were before they were saved. They were
at one time, and we were too anxious about everything,
anxious about death, anxious about sickness, anxious anxious about bills
to pay, anxious about jobs, anxious about persecution or tax
or whatever it might be. It was the same two

(48:02):
thousand years ago as it is today. He's saying, don't
fall back into that right, because you have received the
spirit of adoption as sons by whom we cry Abbah,
which is like daddy, daddy father. And then here's here's
the kicker. In Romans eight sixteen, the Spirit himself bears

(48:25):
witness with our spirit that we are children of God.
He goes on, and if children, then heirs errs of
God and fellow errs with Christ. That's amazing. So how
do we know truth? The Spirit bears witness with your
spirit that you're a child of God. That doesn't that

(48:46):
doesn't help someone else, But someone else could see fruit
of that. Correct. So when you, when you, when the
spirit bears witness of truth within your spirit, you should
be changed. People should look at you and go some
things different about Granger. Granger is not the same guy
he was in twenty fifteen. Granger's not the same guy

(49:06):
he was in twenty sixteen. He's in twenty twenty five.
Granger is different. What is it sanctified by truth? What
is truth? The word drenched in it? And how do
you know? Because the Spirit his bore witness with my
spirit that I am his, I am adopted. Christ gets

(49:33):
the kingdom because of divine right, he was born into it,
a divine He's a divine child of God. Right, we
are not We are sons of wrath, you know, sons
of the devil, basically, Jesus says. But when we turn
to him by faith, turn from those ways and turn

(49:54):
to him. Because of the Spirit's work in us, as
we're reborn, we get we get to be co heirs
with the divine child of Christ. We get to share
in the kingdom through adoption as sons and daughters. That
is incredible. I mean, it's unbelievable that we should share

(50:18):
in this right, which is why this is now I'm
going off a little bit, but this is theory. This
is why Satan hates us.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
Oh yeah, we get he loves us.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
Yeah, weak humans who have rebelled and run away from him.
And he says, these are made in my image. These
receive inheritance from me. These receive sonship from me. Satan
goes what I'm an angel, I receive sonship. No, they
receive it. That's why he hates us.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
Yep. And there's no hope for him to be covered
by the blood. No, there's no redemption.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
No, angels will be judged and angels will be damned,
not all of them. But uh I just read that
in Jude today angels, the angels will be judged. Fascinating thought.
In here, I'll go to it right now, Beloved, I,

(51:23):
although I was eager to write to you about the
about our common salvation, I found it necessary to write
appealing to you to contend for the faith that was
once for all delivered to the saints. Certain people have
crept in long ago unnoticed, who were designated for this condemnation,
ungodly people who perfert the grace of our God into
sensuality and deny our Master and Lord Jesus Christ. I

(51:45):
want to remind you, although once although you once fully
knew it that Jesus who saved the people out of
the land of Egypt listen to this afterwards destroyed those
who did not believe, and angels who did not stay
within their own position authority, but but left their proper dwelling.
He has kept in eternal chains under gloomy darkness until

(52:09):
the judgment of the Great Day Angels. Wow chains heavy
metal song.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
Yo, it does maybe even a maybe a heavy metal band.
Our thought, though, especially here in America, is that angels
are a medium authority, God ultimate angels have some right.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
Yeah, and no, there are separate species. In fact, I
read a systematic theology book that made an argument that
every angel is its own species. Oh interesting, because you
see them described in different ways under the category angel.
But they're like different species with different they look different,
they have different functions. They it's it's it's like we

(52:55):
are earthly creatures with dogs and cats and elephants and humans,
and it's like angels are their own you know, many
multi specie creatures. Interesting, and they will be judged and fallen.
Angels are in change. That is a wild thought from
the Jews. Jude's a crazy little letter, just one little,
one little page. A half brother of Jesus most likely. Yeah,

(53:21):
this podcasts a little bit all over the place, all
over the place.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
But also that's kind of the nature of that whole
topic anyway of conspiracy theory. So maybe this tie back
into what we originally talked about. So we're talking about
something crazy happening. It's all going to be tech that's
going to be used to manipulate our thoughts, in our
minds into thinking that something big is happening. When the
what do we say at the beginning, established truth first

(53:47):
is the Word, and then also go where do you
go to find the truth? You go into the Word
to find the truth and find what really happens. And
it actually says that if you're looking for Jesus to
come back, and you're wondering, hey, is this project Bluebeam
or whatever other can spiracy is it? Well, it says
right here in Acts and after Jesus this is I

(54:09):
think about this time. He has risen from the dead,
and he's appeared to lots and lots of people, including
because of the apostles, and then he picks off. He
sends into heaven men of Galilee. They said, why are
you standing here? Now? These are the men? These are
two guys robed in white, two angels. Yeah, that have
come down and they're standing there going, hey, guys, why

(54:32):
are you standing here staring into heaven? Jesus has been
taken from you into heaven. Here it is, but someday
he will return from heaven. How in the.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
Same way you saw him go.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
You want to know how it's coming back the same
way you saw him leave?

Speaker 1 (54:49):
And how do you know how? He laughed? Because the
word said it. You have to be in the word
yeah to read it right, you have to know it's right.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
At the beginning of Acts, Axes, I've we're reading as
a fan family reading an Axe, and I am in.
I've read, We've I've done the whole machine. Planning went
all the way through twice, but I wanted to study books,
and so right now I'm in Luke. So I'm just
going through Luke right now. So I haven't personally made
it to Acts, but I think that's great. He just

(55:18):
you know, he he had walked around, been forty days
hanging out with some people in this new resurrected body,
and he took off. Why why are you standing here?
He's not here anymore. He went into heaven. But again,
back to what we were talking about, how will it
be Will it be this giant, big thing. It'll be instant.
One we read that earlier. It'll be instant. Everybody will

(55:38):
know all at once, and it's a it's a revelation. Behold,
he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will
see him, even those who pierced him, and all the
tribes of the earth will wail on account of him.

Speaker 1 (55:49):
Even so, Amen, did you get choked up there? No,
you haven't gotten too choked up yet on this podcast.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
None of these have been Jesus Christ, Jesus words or
where I really like him talking about its where I
get choked up. But I mean it is, it does
if I really think about it. His return. Man, that's
that's the time of our eternity. That's when it begins,
and so that thinking about that definitely does. But we've

(56:16):
been talking about a lot of fear today, so trying
to use some fear.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
You know, our eternity. You know this, our eternity begins,
the moment where reborn. Oh that's true, you yeah, the
what you mean is the location? The location?

Speaker 2 (56:29):
Yes, it's true. Yeah, Yeah, you're exactly right.

Speaker 1 (56:33):
Our new bodies you know that? And how do we
know that? Yeah? The word the word yeah. Yeah, So
I mean just to to wrap up in the easy way.
Christians do not rely on our own emotions, which you
can literally be that could our emotions could be affected

(56:53):
by a anti anxiety pill, you know, or an alcoholic drink.
We don't really blo pressure medicine, blood pressure medicine. Your
emotions could literally rise and fall depending on how much
sleep you got last night. So why we don't rely
on emotions. I really feel close to God right now.

(57:13):
I said, praise the Lord. Don't rely on that, you know.
Or we also don't rely on our experiences. I saw
a sunset last night, and I think I saw the
face of God. I say, praise the Lord. Don't rely
on that. Don't don't look at the sunset for how
to know that he's coming back. I say, great, that's

(57:36):
a that's a great indication that we have an almighty
creator that has given us seasons and beautiful sunsets and
puppies and human eyeballs, you know, an amazing creator that
we see. In romans Ion, Paul lays out that all
of us are left with no excuse because of this.
It's all around this. We have suppressed truth. So praise

(57:57):
the Lord. Don't rely on it. Amen, you could rely
on truth in the scripture. And you say, I don't know, Grange,
I don't know about translations. You're reading the wrong translation.
I say, amen, Then go to the Greek. Yeah, because
we do have that as well. We have that as well.
Go to Jerusalem and go to the the see the

(58:21):
Great Isaiah scroll on display right now.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
If it's not put away like it was, if it's
not put away because of a war. I hope that
this has encouraged somebody today though at least two to Hey,
where do I go?

Speaker 1 (58:33):
What do I look up? How do I how do
I figure this out? Is this really happening? What happens?
If it does happen?

Speaker 2 (58:39):
Just if you're not in the ward daily, that's where
you have to start.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
Get in the word daily. There's been about three times
during this podcast I thought I thought of a thought
that I didn't say because I thought that'd be a
good new episode, full full episode. You know something completely,
You should say them so we don't forget them. When
we go back to this episode to find the titles,
I'll tell you as soon as we stop recording. There's
one specifically, but let me say one more thing. I

(59:05):
work with a lot of guys through different levels of discipleship,
different tears, you know, and like some of them are
my strong every day, you know, we're reading the same thing,
we're wrestling. And then there's some guys that are like
babies might not even be converted, just watered down milk

(59:29):
is all they could drink. And one of them told
me and doesn't listen to this podcast, he actually doesn't
know who I am at all. He doesn't know I
have a platform at all. But you know, I've been
trying for months to just get him to read one
chapter a day and move forward and report back what
he read. It's all amasking, and he has so much

(59:49):
trouble just doing that because he constantly is chasing his
emotions and his experiences and wanting to find something else
in the Bible that makes him feel good. Because he
reads a chapter or half of a trap chapter in
Matthew and goes, don't quite understand what's something I could know,
What's something I could really understand, you know? And so

(01:00:10):
you messaged me the other day after many days of
me praying for him and him not replying and him
not reporting back anything. You read, he sends me a
clip from The Chosen and he says, this brought me
to tears. Where is this in the Bible? And I replied,
and I said, was quoting Matthew twenty four because he

(01:00:33):
said I looked everywhere and I couldn't find it. It
was quoting Matthew twenty four. But brother, don't rely on
the Chosen to feed. Please, don't. You're you're eating cowardly,
calorie less food. It has no sustenance to it. There's
no nutrients in what you're trying to do. If you

(01:00:55):
want to watch that later, after you've you've been, You've
you've had your steak and potatoes through the Word, you've been,
you set, you've sat under faithful preaching in a local church,
you have brothers around you, you've walked in discipleship together
through life, and then you want to just sit around
and watch the Chosen. Okay, I say, okay, but you, brother,

(01:01:18):
are trying to make that a thing. You're trying to
make that you're feeding. Why. It goes back to why
because it makes you feel good. You feel the Chosen
is hitting an emotion for you that makes you feel
happy and content and good and you're skipping all the
parts that are convicting you of your sin. Yeah, you know,

(01:01:43):
so if there's maybe that's for someone else that goes.
I get my daily reading from an app on the
Bible app or whatever that gives me my daily verse,
and then I watch the Chosen, and that's my feeding.
I say, brother, a sister, you are not being fed,
You're being deceived. And that's exactly where the enemy would

(01:02:05):
want you to be. Eating food that has no calories
and no nutrients and thinking you're feeling good and that's
in your feelings. Can always deceive you, and typically do
I do. Our flesh is fighting against us. Yeah, okay, cool,
More episodes to come. This has been a good talk.

(01:02:26):
Comment below. If you're watching on the YouTube platform, comment
below things that you agree with or disagree with, things
that you want to rebuke us on. We should be
able to handle it, and we should be able to
take those comments and go, okay, but maybe hey, Grador,
you said something and you're actually wrong about that, You're
wrong about the Chosen, whatever it might be, and we'll

(01:02:48):
bring that back up on another podcast. Yeah. Good, cool,
appreciate y'all, love you. I thank you so much. For
hanging out with me on this episode of the Grangersmith Podcast.
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