August 11, 2025 • 49 mins
This week on the Granger Smith Podcast, Granger, Amber, and AntMan tackle a thought-provoking (and surprisingly encouraging) voicemail from a listener who passionately dislikes Granger’s faith and his mentions of Jesus on the air. Together, they break down the message through a biblical lens, discussing what it means to be “hated for your faith” and why such opposition is expected for believers. They share Scripture, personal stories, and even a perspective from outspoken atheist Penn Jillette on why Christians should share the gospel.
The episode also includes a big announcement — the podcast is going on the road for a live tour this fall — plus an update on Amber’s upcoming book The Girl on the Bathroom Floor. It’s a conversation about criticism, conviction, and the hope that even one life changed for Christ makes it all worth it.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So they told me to stop talking about Jesus. Who
is there? Like, who's there? Yeah, we're gonna get into that.
(00:21):
We have we have a great Why would I don't
know why would say great? It's a It is a
very informative piece of audio. It was a phone call
we got aunt Man and I got and we've I
actually think it's really encouraging. I think you thought it
was encouraging too. And we had a phone call from
(00:42):
a a hater that is, he's very articulate on on
what he's hating us for. And it's very interesting, and
I think it would be good for all of us
to listen to it and think with a biblical lens.
You know, we all, all three of us have our
Bibles here. Ambra doesn't know what this is about, Ammon does,
(01:05):
but think through with a biblical lens, how to process
someone that's hating us because of our faith and and
perhaps model that in real time. We're not you know,
we'll do this in real time. We'll fumble through it,
but kind of talk through what it would look like
(01:27):
to be hated for your faith, and we'll play the recording. So,
but first we're gonna take this podcast live.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yeah, big announcement today on the Smiths, on all the socials.
It's official. I know, we we We even gave a
couple of dates that were inaccurate as well in locations
that either weren't confirmed or I made up.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Remember, do we know what they are?
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Exactly?
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Does anybody know what they are? Do you do you
have them? Are they just in your head? Or do
you have them?
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Yes? Okay, so it is the very first one is
in McPherson, Kansas, which is just outside of whichital Kansas.
We'll go there. We'll also go to Ashland, Kentucky, go
to Franklin, Tennessee, which is just I'm not you know, yeah, yeah,
because I'm trying to remember that. So Franklin, Tennessee, just
(02:21):
outside of Nashville, right, will also Arlington, Texas a missing one.
Oh that's right, Yeah, what's the name? How do you
come coming?
Speaker 1 (02:35):
So these are the cities that we will be taking
the podcast live to in September and October this year,
like next month, starting very soon.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Tickets are on sale today.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Tickets are on sale today, yes, okay, as this podcast releases, right,
where do you get that?
Speaker 2 (02:51):
In the link of the description of Lin here I
know it's on your socials service as well. Okay, it's
on the Grangersmith pod on Instagram as well.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Okay, So this is something we've been talking about for
maybe two years. I mean we've been talking about this
since touring ended, that we were going to take this
podcast live and have Amber with us. And I'm thinking, Tyler,
I'm thinking we'll try to talk Parker into it. Of course,
you aunt Man will be with us, and we'll go
(03:21):
to these different cities and meet everyone, engage with them,
listen to them. We will conduct a lot of recording,
a live recording of the podcast, including answering some questions
and including some of those being live on the spot
questions for all of us. And this is something we're
(03:44):
really excited about because we've done this podcast for so long,
you know, over three hundred episodes, that you could start
to feel a little disengaged from real people, which is
as a touring artist for me, always having that reassurance
that people are listening to you is what touring fulfills.
You don't get that with a radio show or a podcast,
(04:06):
especially the radio show you do.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yeah, especially the radio show five Am.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Yeah. I'm speaking to people that I can't see their
faces and it and this will allow us to get
out there and see the faces again. So really excited
about that and and really part of let me say
a couple of things. One the first reaction most people
are going to have, I believe is why are you
going to those cities? Like why when you go to
(04:31):
my city? And that's always the question when you put
together any tour. But Tyler at a good point yesterday
he said, we're sitting here and Tyler said, this is
kind of like we're starting over because in the in
the beginning of music touring two decades ago, no one
knew who I was, and so they did no one
(04:51):
You couldn't just call a city on demand and say
I want to get your prime venue for my artist
Granger Smith. They were like, I don't know, I've never
even heard of you. You have to build your way
up with people that say yes. So not to downplay
these cities. In fact, I want to be grateful that
these are the ones that said yes. And so if
(05:13):
you're wondering why we're going to these cities, we've tried
a bunch of them, and these are the ones that
were like, we would love to have you. So that's
why they sound a bit random like McPherson, Kansas Coming Georgia.
These are the ones that said yes. These are the
ones that are like, yes, we would love to have you.
So that's how it starts.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
That's so cool, And thank you guys for asking me
to go with you. I couldn't go host and kind
of wrangle some of the stuff going on in the moment,
which I love. That's that's producing. I love doing that
part of it, especially a live show. It's going to
be exciting and you know, questions in the moment that
you know, I just I love the whole idea of
(05:52):
they came to just see a good show, and something
will pop up in somebody's mind or their heart, God
will live on their heart. They'll ask the question and
could completely change the atmosphere of the whole of the
whole gathering.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
I've seen this happen. I've seen like the men's events
that I speak at. I know this has happened to you,
but you someone asked a question that ends up changing
the trajectory of every thought in the place. I'm so
excited about this.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Well, and I love that because you you really pushed
for this, like, because we do, we will have a
way for you to scan a que our code and
submit your question. That'll be the majority. But you really
push for the live too, and I'm really glad you
did because I'm like it just it rounds out the
whole live experience.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Of the event and you have to have that element there.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
And what's it going to be like, We don't know
because we have those first five ever right here.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
So yeah. Then the second thing I was going to
say is the reason we finally are doing this now
is Amber's book October the fourteenth. So exciting titles out right, it's.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
Exciting titles out the girl on the bathroom.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Floor, Girl on the bathroom floor.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
Yeah, and we're finishing up lots of things. I've already
talked about it a lot on the socials, but I'm
sharing little bits and pieces of it as the weeks
go on up until released day. I just finished recording
the audiobook so it will be an audio form two.
There were lots of tears during that, but it was
really neat to get to do. And yeah, I'm excited
(07:21):
to get it in you guys's hands and just pray
that it brings hope to anyone who's hurting and points
people to.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Our lord, whould you record it up here in Austin.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
Oh that's a funny thing, I know, isn't it funny?
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (07:33):
You have literally recording studio here right up. She goes
to Austin recorded in another work, My Fault.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
They said they wanted to have a producer on the line,
and so there was somebody from LA and then the
lady in studio that just wanted to do it that way.
I could possibly do pickups here, but I think I
have to go back to Austin to do my pickups if.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
They need any.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Yeah, you have to do it there. You have to
use that same mic in the same room otherwise. Have
you ever listened to an audiobook and you could tell
something changed right there?
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (08:00):
Well, and I thought I was getting sick right before
I went into record. I was like, I know my
voice is going to be different. Yeah, you can definitely tell,
like either somebody was sick or it's a different mic
something like that.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
A long time ago, I did voiceovers for PBR not
the Beer the bull writing, and I stood in the
room could have been a drum room or a or
an orchestra or whatever. It was massive. I'm like, why
are we here doing this? Like, yeah, there's a reason, you.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Know, Yeah for sure.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah, So yeah, it's funny.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
I walked in the other day, it was actually yesterday,
and Paul and some other videographers were here recording the
the book trailer, the book trailer, and there they're in
there crying in the bathroom.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Have you felt And I'm sure you have. I know
this is a rhetorical question, but like, just hearing the
name of the book has this heaviness.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
Yeah, And I have to give credit to Granger for
that because he gave me the title. He's the one
that they gave me the title, because that's where he
saw me, and that's where I was, you know, throughout
my whole time of grief. And yeah, we filmed a
it'll probably come out to be about a sixty second
ninety second book trailer, just about the book getting people
to pre orders. But yeah, Granger and MAV came home
yesterday and they were watching it on the monitor. I
(09:19):
didn't know, but I was in the bathroom reliving a lot, crying,
and he said that Maverick was just Maverick was so sad.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
So we walked in. Maverick and I we're at the
EEE Farm. We came in and I saw that the bathroom,
I saw that there was like lighting outside the window,
so I knew they were in there. So I came
in the other direction into the kitchen and there's a
you know, one of the guys that works with Paul
was in there with the monitor that they were He
was monitoring the filming, and he was like, hey, it's
(09:52):
your mama talking to Maverick. We walk around the monitor
and Amber's on the bathroom floor crying. It was real tears.
And Maverick saw her and goes, no, no, Mama, she's crying.
She's so sad. I need to see her. I need
to see her. And I was like, oh, buddy, she's
pretending she's acting. No, no, she's not. No, she's not.
(10:14):
I need to see her. I need to see her.
And he was like trying to get to the bathroom.
Trying to stop him because I don't want to break
whatever mood was happening, but it was that compelling, and
then Amber later was like, I was crying.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
I was crying. I was really crying. But of course
you want to tell your son no, it's okay. Mommy's fine.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
But he talked about it last night when I was
putting him to bed.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
You were so sad. You were so sad over.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
A river, and Granger said, it's a weird thing to think.
I was in the bathroom filming this crying because we
don't have river, but we have mav now, and so
I had to. I told Granger the first half of
me crying getting those tears out was thinking.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
About River and the loss.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
But the second part, when we were filming some of
the close ups, was I was crying out of gratitude
for what God has done and that we have Maverick now.
So I don't want him to ever see that and
think I was crying because we lost river and he's
here now. It's like, no, because God has done a
mighty work and we're so grateful and joyful now that
those were tears of joy. So it's it's I hope,
(11:14):
it's I can't wait to see the edit that Paul
sends us, so that'll be out this month.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Actually, so I have a new picture back here, you
see you, because we got we got the river stuff
going on, and that's why love dirt roads. But yeah,
if you're trying to get a gift for someone that
you think has everything, how about a special video message
from me. It's easy to do. Go to cameo dot
(11:41):
com slash granger Smith and you put in the prompt
what you want me to say. I get that message
on my phone. I'll say happy birthday, happy anniversary, whatever
personalized message you want me to say to whoever you
want me to say it to. I send it to
you and you give it to them. It's pretty cool.
Go to cameo dot com slash granger Smith. Well, should
(12:02):
we get to the point here?
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Play this voicemail? This is so good you ready to
hear this? So I'll just kind of give some background.
I get every single phone call that comes in for
after midnight, and there's a bunch. There's a bunch that
have nothing to do with anything that we're talking about.
Some people just call and use that line to have
(12:25):
companionship of some kind and they'll just talk and it'll
be random. It'll be about nothing, like you couldn't use
it or put it together or build anything around it.
As far as pieces for radio, it's just somebody letting
they don't have anybody else to talk to they heard
a phone number, they picked up the phone and they called,
and they leave it on this voicemail. And so I
(12:46):
see those and sometimes I'll listen just to make sure
it's nothing crazier that I need to draw attention to.
And most of them are just just that if they're
not about the topic that we're talking about that night.
And then I got this one, the first one, and
then what I do for some of the other phone
calls is I look at the phone number because I
can see the phone number in it, and I saw
(13:06):
that there were multiples from the same phone number. And
after hearing the first one, I was like, this isn't
the first time he called, so let's see what else
he had to say. And the two the other ones
were just, you know, they he may have chimed in
on the topic at the moment that was in the
(13:26):
past or something like that, but these phone calls were
particularly about you and me.
Speaker 6 (13:34):
Yea.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
So those calls come in, Is it in real time
of it's in the middle of the night, yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
If it's if they called it yeah two am, Yeah,
it's a if they heard it at two am and
called right then, yes it time stamps, Okay, shows me
when they called and what have you.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
So let's lay out a couple of things before we
play it. Number One, whoever this guy is, I hope
he's listening right now. I highly doubt that he is,
but I hope he is because, and I say that
in a way that like, this isn't trying to go
behind his back. This isn't trying to show something that
you know in secret. I'm bringing this out to the
(14:11):
light because I genuinely want him to know my heart.
I don't think he's going to care about my heart,
but I want him to know it. Number Two, this
is not a personal phone call he gave us that's
on a private line. This is a public line that
we put out there to play on the air.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
It's implied that you know that this could be played
correct correct.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
So I'm not doing something behind his back. I'm not
without permission playing an audio. This is an audio he
has given us with permission because it's a call a
call in line. He's given us permission through the very
line that he's called on to play it on the air.
And here we are just on a bit different format
here with the podcast. But I say all that because
(14:59):
Minas that this man would be saved, that the Lord
would save him, that he would do he would run
to Jesus. And that's my desire with anyone. So let's
listen to it together, and as we're listening to it,
be thinking of ways with our Bibles to kind of
(15:20):
break it apart. Because it's really good to listen to
the heart of a scoffers as it's as he's articulating
very clearly his thoughts. It helps us to go, oh,
this is so biblical. This is not out of the blue,
this is absolutely expected. All right, go ahead and play
(15:42):
this thing. We don't know his.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Name, Granger Smith.
Speaker 7 (15:48):
A job I could never do is be it radio
host that promotes all of the right winging biblical.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Bulls, promote so annoying God. Your show makes me actually
hate that I like country music because when I listen
to you and.
Speaker 8 (16:11):
The questions you ask and the things you talk about God,
it just drives me crazy. I do understand that other
people don't always follow every Christian belief that you do.
Jesus Age Christ, and I know you're probably never going
to hear this message because your producers are going to
(16:33):
edit it and delete it. But the producers, if you're
listening to this, I just don't understand how y'all promote
this crap.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Y'all are horrible people. You're terrible, you really are. You're
terrible people because.
Speaker 7 (16:51):
You promote some of the most narrow minded crap on
open radio. Maybe in a perfect world, y'all will let
Granger hear this so that he can know that I
don't care about the fact that you love Jesus Christ.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
I don't care about that. Okay. I work night shifts,
and unfortunately I have to listen to your after midnight show,
and it drives me crazy, Like I just heard one
of Granger's Jesus Christ blah blah blah Jesus Christ blah
(17:31):
blah blah. Like it's just it's embarrassing. It's so it
makes me so angry, Like it makes me embarrassed when
I listen to his show because I know that there's
a world out there of people who are listening to
his crop and they're just swallowing a hole.
Speaker 6 (17:52):
And here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
I mean, I remember one of the things that Granger
put out there was like, call me and ask me
a question. Who that is? Granger Smith to answer anyone's question, like, honestly,
what kind of experience that this failed country music artist?
Speaker 6 (18:11):
What what does he have to actually share with anyone
to have and invite them to call and ask him
a question?
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Man, it makes me Yeah, I really wish I'll show
would get canceled and stop feeding ignorance, to stop it please.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Well he was polite there at the end.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Yeah, very clear, he's very articulate. Let me say something
here too. Probably I would assume most people that listen
to this podcast don't listen to After Midnight, which is
what this man is referred to. He's not talking about
this podcast. He's talking about After Midnight, which which is
(19:03):
a country music radio show, overnight show that I host.
The majority of what happens on that station is great
country music. And then in between songs and and twice
an hour, I have a topic. I told Marshall, It's
not like I'm laying out penal, substitutionary atonement and the
(19:24):
cross of of the Messiah. You know, I'm saying things like.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
You did bring that up once. Maybe maybe, I.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Mean he's he acts like he just went to a
church service or something.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
You made him sit through a Sunday morning service. Yeah, yeah,
in the middle of the night.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Yeah, but instead I'll say things like what what's I
don't know, what's example of something that we we get
deep on? What he what do you think he was
even referencing here.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Well in in that I couldn't think of anything because
it was a job that you could never do? Was
the topic that night. What's the job that you could
never do? And he addressed that and to set up
the rest of his phone call.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
So yeah, so he listens every night obviously because he's
he's kind of compiled a bunch of thoughts together.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
And that's what I was thinking is obviously we love
that he listens to the show. Yeah, we're not forcing
him to sit and listen to it.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
That's what it sounds like he's doing for so much.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Yeah, I don't know. Maybe it plays in the place
that he works, you.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Know, maybe he's in a warehouse and after amen, Praise
the Lord, if that's the case. But for I guess
what I'm trying to say is it's not a religious show,
right right, it's not. And I don't I for sure
don't proselytize on the show. I don't say I don't
say on the air. Come to the Lord Jesus and
(20:55):
be saved. Look to look to Christ. You know, I
don't say I say that on this podct. I said
that on my Instagram. Maybe he sees my social media.
I don't know. My point is he is getting he's
getting the aroma of Christ through the radio waves, you know,
he he is getting the gospel, uh, the aroma of
(21:20):
the Gospel through the air. So I understand that not
everyone that listens to the show is a Christian or
even cares about it being a Christian. I understand that.
Of course, I understand that about this very podcast right now,
(21:41):
and yes that I'm perfectly aware. We'll start with us first.
One Corinthians one eighteen is the first thing I thought of.
The word of the Cross is folly to those who
are perishing, but to us who are being saved, it
is the power power of God. So in light of this,
(22:04):
the word of the Cross is folly. It's it's stupid,
it's ridiculous. It is what did he say, crap ignorance.
He kept saying, promoting this ignorance. So in him, to
his his veiled eyes, he's been blinded because of the
hardness of his heart. These are biblical terms. I'm not
(22:26):
making this up. He's been blinded because of the hardness
of his heart, and because of that, the the the
aroma of the Gospel, the the the word, the word
of the Cross is so stupid, it's it's idiotic to him.
And so because in light of that, it is obvious
(22:47):
that someone would be frustrated or weirded out. In fact,
it's actually expected that if if I put stuff out
there into the into a public space about Christ, just
the same as if I was on a wooden box
in the middle of the public square and I was
preaching the Gospel, there would be people that walk by
and go, becut's an absolute idiot. That's expected, right, And
(23:10):
so there's that. We'll start with that.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
Yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Appreciated that he included me. You never hear my voice
like you just got it for both of us.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
Well, Andy said, in a perfect world, you would let
Granger hear it.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
So it's a perfect world today.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Welcome to the perfect world.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
I got to hear it.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Friend. I had him for a little while and I
kept forgetting to play him for Granger, and yesterday I go, hey,
I have something to play for you. And before you listen.
I'm actually really encouraged by this, and I hope you
are too. And we listened to him. And in John
Book of John, chapter fifteen, verse eighteen, if the world
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hates you, remember that it hated me first. The world
would love you. I would love you as one of
its own if you belong to it. But you're no
longer part of the world. I chose you to come
out of the world, so it hates you.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
That's where I was going to. But I'll go I'll
go somewhere different.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Yeah. Hearing the word of Christ, it gets you a little,
a little choked up.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Done every time that and I'm sorry, like even just
just it does.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
My mom too, Like if speaks out loud the words
of Jesus, if my mom speaks it out loud, she'll
cry every time.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
I try to read out aloud every day, and even
reading out loud to myself, it like it just has
so much power.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
So before you go and say it again the top
of John fifteen, verse eighteen.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Verse eighteen, If the world hates you, remember that it
hated me first. Amen.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
Yeah, And I'll go to what you just said in
a second. I'll say what what I was thinking First,
I have two verses, So we're gonna go to Matthew ten,
verse twenty two. Matthew ten, verse twenty two, and you
will be hated by all because of my name. But
it is the one who has endured to the end
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who will be saved. So as Granger said, it is
biblical that you will be persecuted two Timothy three twelve. Indeed,
all who desire to live a godly life in Christ
Jesus will be persecuted. All who desire to live a
godly life. But I think about like Granger said, it
(25:30):
is folly to those who are perishing. It is folly
when you are blinded, when the veil is over your eyes.
Because such were some of us, all of us before
the Lord opened our eyes. I used to think the
same thing when I had friends who were so I
would call it religious.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
Back then, I didn't get it.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
I didn't understand because my heart was hardened.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
The veil was over my eyes.
Speaker 5 (25:53):
So now having this new life that I cry when
I read the Word of God, it makes me want
to see those people and be like.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Can you not see?
Speaker 5 (26:01):
But I have to remember that I was once dead
in my sins, and it's only by the power of
the Holy Spirit that I was made alive, that I
can see now. So I have to look at this
guy and we have to pray for him. Pray, Lord
open his eyes so that we can see and know
the power of your word. And it will bring you
to tears like it does you, because that's the.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Goal, right, is the revelation of my own sin?
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Is the separation of me and God and the love
of a man who yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
Yeah, who's yeah, who scorns the word of God.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Died for me? Yeah? Really? How can I not be?
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Is it not such a revelation for us? Is it
not such its own defense of the gospel that here
we are, two thousand years later, after our Lord walked
walked with his cross, and people spit on him and
yelled at him and called him a fool and drove
nails into his hands and feet. Is it not such
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a witness to that that two thousand years later, this
man just hears this and gets angry. He gets angry.
If I had talked about Buddha, he wouldn't say a
word issue. If I had talked about Mohammad, he would
have thoughts about it, but he wouldn't get angry. Romans
eight seven, Paul writes, for the mind that is set
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on the flesh is hostile to God, for it does
not submit to God's law. Indeed it cannot that. That
is that that gives us no surprise that there's pushback,
because when a mind is set on the flesh and
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not on the spirit, it's hostile to God. For the
verse right before that says for the for to set
the mind on the flesh is death, but to set
the mind on the spirit is life and peace. So
it's no surprise that we feel from this man anger,
which is just very strange. If I think about it,
if you were unbiased in this world somehow, like if
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you're another from another planet and you came and looked
at this, you'd be like, here's a radio host that's
speaking of hope that's within him, and peace and rest
that he has in a belief system that he believes.
Whether it's real or not, he believes it. How could
you listen to that and get angry? Well, it would
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only be because your mind is hostile to the ways
of God.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
That's that.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
And we have to say almost every time we have
to have to stop and go as was I one day,
as was I before, as was I. Oh God, if
it wasn't for your mercy, if it wasn't for your
saving grace, that through Christ would be like this man. Lord,
would you save this man? Would you open his eyes?
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Maybe through the radio show, maybe through someone else, maybe
the seed is planted. Lord, would you save him so
we could have peace and he could stop being hostile
to his own maker, the one that knitted him together
in his mother's womb.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Wow, that hostility and hate you hear in his voice,
I believe is the defense mechanism of sin. Yeah, it's
defending sin for now until it's broken through and it
just needs a crack. And the crack could be the
song or the or the break that plays before the song,
or the topic that we're talking about. One of those
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is going to crack that barrier of hate with him.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
There is a belief what you're saying is, and I
know this from experience, through people that I've dealt with
like this, there is a sin in his life that
he cannot let go that a Christian worldview says is wrong.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
It's as simple as that, living a lifestyle, doing something
that that he has heard the Christian worldview is against
and that to him is hostile to him.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Even though you may not, I mean you just you know,
we talked about what you're not prosthetizing on afterbidden Now
I'm not really show but something in that ruffle the
feathers of that sin.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
Yes, it was interesting that he said it's so narrow
minded when our belief system in Christianity is is God
welcoming everyone who turns from their sin and turns to
the Lord. There's no there's no bias, there's no skin color,
there's no socioeconomic status, there's nothing that can keep you
away from the love of God. If you turn from
your sin and come, it is the most welcoming that
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there is. That he says it's so narrow minded.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Narrow minded is to listen to a radio host and
say your view is wrong. An open minded way would
be like, that's his view, that does bother me, Let
him do him. But it all comes down to sin.
There is a conviction inside him that he's convicted by sin.
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It's confronting him in his own spirit. And although he
wouldn't say it that way, that's that's what it comes
down to, is he has a sin that he is,
that he loves, and it is his idol, it is
his identity. I don't know what it is, but all
of us know because we've all shared in something like this.
None of us are indifferent to this. We go, oh, yeah,
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there was a sin of the flesh that I once
held onto. And the Bible says, turn away, repent, turn
away from it, and turn to me and be saved.
And that message is folly to some people that are
coveting that sin, and their eyes are are darkened and
they go, no, no, all you people are you know,
your biggots, you narrow minded biggots promoting this ignorant crap.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
You know.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
That's that's what they say.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Folly. Also foolishness. Yeah, some versions say foolishness and that
it is foolish that a guy claims to be God
and doesn't rise to power, he instead gets killed. Who
has hope in that? But he came back and that
is that's the that's the difference maker between him and
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Buddha and Mohammad and any other guy that you want
to put in that place. He did this for you
and me, and he came back just like he said
he would.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
And he's coming back again again.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Yeah, yeah, you know, there's uh And I've brought this
up before on some other topic we were talking about
that was similar. But we there's Pen and Teller, who
are the magicians. Yeah, one of them doesn't talk tell her.
Penn does and has been very vocal about his he is.
He's not a believer, in fact, he's not agnostic, but atheist,
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thank you. He's an atheist. And he even he puts
that like he even talks about it in his in
his show. And he recounted a story of a guy
who and after the shows, they'll go out those sign autographs,
and sometimes they'll give props from the show to crowd
members and what have you. And this guy came up
and was holding some props from one of the particular
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illusions that he had received from them, that he'd gotten
from the night before, and he goes he waited patiently,
and he stood to the side, and I noticed him,
and he came up and he showed me what he
had received. He very complimentary of the show, complimentary of them,
and he said, he handed me a a Gideon Bible,
(33:48):
but it's just where it's like Psalms. And then the
new to in the Gospels. Yeah, so just one of those.
And he handed it to me, and he goes, I
wrote a note in the front of it that I'd
like for you, but I want you to have this,
and he said, he looked me in the eye and
he was kind. I'm not a believer, and he knows it.
(34:09):
And I have no respect for anyone who believes that
there is a heaven and a hell and there's an
eternity spent somewhere, and you don't tell somebody who doesn't
believe about it if you know it. He even gave
a comparison. He goes, I can you may not believe
that a truck is coming at you, but I'm telling
(34:31):
you that a truck is coming at you. There will
be at some point I tackle you. And that guy
did with his gift that day. He was kind, he
was generous, and I knew that he believed it. He goes,
He told me, I'm a businessman and I have all
my faculties. I'm not a wacko, and I want to
(34:53):
share this with you. And he has all the respect
in the world for him, and I don't have it
for anybody else as a believer that will not witness
and proselytize to somebody they know that.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Is that is so convicting, very much. So, yeah, I
know that Bible. It's green, it's yes, absolutely, I've had
one in my whole life, when I was a baby,
if someoney gave it to me. It's actually right in here.
It's got the psalms in the in the New Testament.
You know, how much would you have to hate someone?
Speaker 2 (35:27):
That's what he says, Yes, that's right to.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Not share that if I if I, if the Lord
has done such a work in my life and so
many around me, and I had a public platform, how
much would I have to hate you, mister caller, to
not share the hope that is in me? And I understand,
(35:54):
I understand boundaries of you know, I don't want to.
I don't want to overstep a platform that's been given
to me by the Lord. I don't want to squander
it by by doing silly things, you know, like talking
about things that you know over and over that don't
(36:17):
that shouldn't be talked about. But if I'm going to
shut up and be silent for every show and not
tell you about the hope, the joy that is in me,
in some way if I can't articulate that, articulate that
in some way, for instance, coming up with a new
topic and thinking in my mind. I for instance, we
(36:38):
had a topic, our latest topic that said what do
you do to lift your mood? That was a topic,
and everyone's calling, like, I call my grandson, I'd like
to take a drive and listen to George Strade. I
like to throw the frisbee with my dogs. And I'm
hearing this and going, yeah, great, all that's all great.
Those are all great moodlifters. In the very end, I
(37:00):
was like, you know, what's something I like to do.
I like to read the Bible, and I got I
like to go to some place like Jeremiah seventeen, you know,
and I read like four or five verses. I didn't ply.
That's not proselytizing. That's just saying, you know what I
do to lift my mood. Go to Jeremia seventeen and
I read I read something out of there. And if
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that is seen to anyone it's wrong, then that's that's
sign of the times. Let me let me actually show
you which.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
Is so interesting because all of those other things would
be accepted because you said.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Something about what if I said I meditate. I'm Buddhists,
and I like to empty my mind and have a
moment of zen, and I do sixty seconds of zen, right,
and I focus on my breathing. No one would go,
you stop this Buddhist crap this it would you stop
(37:57):
talking about No one says that. But here's what I said.
I said. I said, I like to go to dre seventeen,
and I say, I read blessed is the man who
trust in the Lord. Whose trust is the Lord. He's
like a tree planted by water that sends out its
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roots by the stream and does not fear when heat comes,
for its leaves remain green, and it's not anxious in
the year of drought, for it does not cease to
bear fruit. That's how I lift my mood.
Speaker 5 (38:33):
Yeah, and you know, I've heard people say I wish
people would stop shoving Jesus down my throat, And it's like,
we're not trying to shove Jesus down your throat. But
if you only knew, if you only knew, oh yeah,
if you only knew what he did for you and
how much he loves you, that's what we want.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
You to know.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
So to that amber. Let's talk about hope, because we've
explained why where this comes from. But here's the hope
and Corinthians for starting verse six. For God who said
let light shine out of darkness, has shown in our
hearts to give the light of the knowledge of the
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glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ. So
God can turn the darkest heart, the hardest heart. God
could shine his light and break through it. He does it,
did it with me, He did it was with countless
people throughout the Bible as we read it. And that
is the hope we have. That's the hope we have
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for this this caller, and that's why that's why it's
worth it. He said at the very end, I hope
her show's canceled. And you know what it may be
one day because right now conservative culture of our agricultural farming,
call it republican, call it conservative, call it whatever you want.
(39:55):
I'm not into promoting that, But what I am saying
is that's that is aligned itself with Christianity right now. Yes,
and that just that happens to be my people. Yeah,
you know, I live in the country. I am a
former country singer, failed former country singer, as he said.
(40:16):
So those are my people, and right now my people
are aligned with my God. But that doesn't always happen.
They will become misaligned again. And when I'm misaligned and
and I'm not making money for the I'm not making
an advertiser money for the big conglomerates, whom I love
because they have given me a job right now through
the Lord. But when that doesn't work anymore, they'll cancel me.
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So here's the question. When that happens, When that day happens,
if it does, If it does, would it have been
worth it for this man to hear the gospel?
Speaker 2 (40:50):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (40:52):
Would it be worth it to see this man in
heaven one day?
Speaker 4 (40:56):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (40:57):
And he goes you. It was you.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
I don't know if you remember, but I called into
your radio show.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
It was you.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
I heard about Jesus one night working at the warehouse
stocking shelves, and I was so sick of it, and
I was so tired of hearing about your hope and
your peace and your God. And I couldn't stop wrestling
with it. I couldn't stop thinking about it. And finally,
one day I just wanted to prove you wrong. I
picked up one of your beloved Bibles. And then I
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started to read and I learned that he was my
savior too. He was you would it be worth it
to get canceled? Amen, cancel me for one for one person.
It's worth it.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Yeah, agreed.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
I love that he called it.
Speaker 4 (41:54):
Did he say his name?
Speaker 1 (41:56):
No, he didn't say his name.
Speaker 4 (41:57):
Well, everybody listening, just pray for this man.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
If you want it, I can get it for you.
It's on the color ide.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
A couple more thoughts here, Romans one sixteen. This is
the natural law and man understanding. All man is is
we are all guilty because God has made himself known
to us through creation, through everything. So if we deny him,
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we are suppressing truth. It's not that we don't know,
it's not that He hasn't provided enough information for us.
It's because we have suppressed what is already true. Romans
one sixteen. For I am not ashamed of the Gospel,
Paul says, For it is the power of God for
salvation to everyone who believes, so we should. Jesus says
(42:52):
it like this in Luke nine. For whoever is ashamed
of me and of my words, Paul says.
Speaker 7 (42:58):
Not me.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
Paul says I'm not ashamed, in response to Jesus saying,
for whoever is ashamed of me in my words of him,
will the son of Man be ashamed when he comes
in his glory and the glory of the Father and
of the Holy angels.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
I don't want to be on that side. Here's another thing,
Paul says, and and this is this, This is when
we when when the ship goes down, if we go
down with being canceled, and Lord willing, Lord willing, we
won't be. But we might. But that's not Our goal
is to Our goal is to no our What our
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goal is not is to try to not be canceled, right, correct?
I don't know how to say that. Our goal is
not to try to not be canceled. Our goal is
to be faithful, as as faithful stewarts, as jars of clay,
with a message greater than we could possibly even grasp.
And Paul says to this, Christ will be honored in
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my body, whether by life or by death. For to
me to live as Christ and to die is gain.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
Right.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
So I'm no apostle, Paul, but I want to emulate that.
I want to say, on my deathbed, how did you
do grangeer when grandkids come around, how did grandpa do?
I will say, Christ will be. Christ was honored in
my body, my whole life, by a life or by death.
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So well, let's go to first Peter. Three.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
This is.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
The the apologetic verse of the Bible. When when Peter
says to make a defense, that word a polygia in
the Greek means to to make a military defense. That's
where really where that word comes from. And this is
what he says. In your hearts. Peter says, honor Christ,
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the Lord is Holy, always, always being prepared to make
a defense to anyone who asked you for a reason,
for the hope that is in you. Yet do it
with gentleness and respect, having a good conscience, so that
(45:22):
when you are slandered, those who revile your good behavior
in Christ may.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
Be put to shame, and not if you are slandered. Yeah,
when you.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
Are so gentleness, respect, love, a true heart for the lost,
and always ready to make that defense.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:53):
Amen.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
The last thing Jesus told us a mark before he left,
before we send it into heaven to all the world.
Speaker 3 (46:01):
Go.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
Yeah, Hey, let me just say I am just I'm
so I'm so grateful thank the Lord for you every
day that we work together in a secular space, because
you have my back and I have year back, and
(46:24):
you brought this call to me. You could have if
you were of the world, if you're of the flesh,
you would have done exactly what a man of the
flesh thought you were going to do. Delete it, not
bring it to me, because you're not a man of
the flesh. You're a man of the spirit of God.
You thought differently than the man of the flesh thought
(46:44):
a man of the flesh would do, and you brought
it to me, and you said, this encouraged me. I
think it might encourage you. And I said, let's put
it on the podcast.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
Yeah. Yeah, Well I'm feelings mutual because there's not I
was out. I was out a radio, done, moved on
and glad for it. It was great for me and
my family for so long. But emotionally and spiritually, I
(47:18):
was done with the radio. It was in my rear
view mirror. And then you get a call and we're
working together on EE radio and some it's just like
some just makes sense here And yeah, I'm very thankful too.
And I wouldn't be doing this without you.
Speaker 4 (47:38):
I'm just gonna sit over here and cry while you guys,
well we.
Speaker 1 (47:42):
Broke out of it.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
We brow out meet right here for a hug.
Speaker 5 (47:46):
And because I know all the backstory, and a lot
of people listening know all the backstory of of everything,
and it's just really really neat to see how God
works through everything.
Speaker 1 (47:56):
Yeah, So Lord, we pray for this man that he
would be saved, would hear the gospel, and then he
would he would buy the power of the gospel, that
he would be safe, convicted of a sin and turn
to you, and then we would see him one day
in eternity.
Speaker 2 (48:09):
And until he does, I hope he's annoyed every night.
Speaker 1 (48:13):
Just a pebble in his shoe without taking that shoe
off him, fixing that pebble, and there we are again.
Speaker 4 (48:20):
And then I hope he calls back, he goes.
Speaker 1 (48:23):
So you go call every day, buddy, if you can
get his number in his name, maybe I'll start talking
to him. Maybe I'll just answer one day.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
Hello.
Speaker 1 (48:33):
I know this is a record and.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
Trying to get a hold of you.
Speaker 1 (48:37):
Oh yeah, okay, cool. Appreciate you, appreciate you, appreciate you.
Will you be back on before your book releases. Hopefully
you're the boss, No boss, all right, Love you guys.
Thank you so much for hanging out with me on
this episode of the granger Smith Podcast. I appreciate you
(48:59):
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We'll see you next time, ye
So they told me to stop talking about Jesus. Who
is there? Like, who's there? Yeah, we're gonna get into that.
(00:21):
We have we have a great Why would I don't
know why would say great? It's a It is a
very informative piece of audio. It was a phone call
we got aunt Man and I got and we've I
actually think it's really encouraging. I think you thought it
was encouraging too. And we had a phone call from
(00:42):
a a hater that is, he's very articulate on on
what he's hating us for. And it's very interesting, and
I think it would be good for all of us
to listen to it and think with a biblical lens.
You know, we all, all three of us have our
Bibles here. Ambra doesn't know what this is about, Ammon does,
(01:05):
but think through with a biblical lens, how to process
someone that's hating us because of our faith and and
perhaps model that in real time. We're not you know,
we'll do this in real time. We'll fumble through it,
but kind of talk through what it would look like
(01:27):
to be hated for your faith, and we'll play the recording. So,
but first we're gonna take this podcast live.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yeah, big announcement today on the Smiths, on all the socials.
It's official. I know, we we We even gave a
couple of dates that were inaccurate as well in locations
that either weren't confirmed or I made up.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Remember, do we know what they are?
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Exactly?
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Does anybody know what they are? Do you do you
have them? Are they just in your head? Or do
you have them?
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Yes? Okay, so it is the very first one is
in McPherson, Kansas, which is just outside of whichital Kansas.
We'll go there. We'll also go to Ashland, Kentucky, go
to Franklin, Tennessee, which is just I'm not you know, yeah, yeah,
because I'm trying to remember that. So Franklin, Tennessee, just
(02:21):
outside of Nashville, right, will also Arlington, Texas a missing one.
Oh that's right, Yeah, what's the name? How do you
come coming?
Speaker 1 (02:35):
So these are the cities that we will be taking
the podcast live to in September and October this year,
like next month, starting very soon.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Tickets are on sale today.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Tickets are on sale today, yes, okay, as this podcast releases, right,
where do you get that?
Speaker 2 (02:51):
In the link of the description of Lin here I
know it's on your socials service as well. Okay, it's
on the Grangersmith pod on Instagram as well.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Okay, So this is something we've been talking about for
maybe two years. I mean we've been talking about this
since touring ended, that we were going to take this
podcast live and have Amber with us. And I'm thinking, Tyler,
I'm thinking we'll try to talk Parker into it. Of course,
you aunt Man will be with us, and we'll go
(03:21):
to these different cities and meet everyone, engage with them,
listen to them. We will conduct a lot of recording,
a live recording of the podcast, including answering some questions
and including some of those being live on the spot
questions for all of us. And this is something we're
(03:44):
really excited about because we've done this podcast for so long,
you know, over three hundred episodes, that you could start
to feel a little disengaged from real people, which is
as a touring artist for me, always having that reassurance
that people are listening to you is what touring fulfills.
You don't get that with a radio show or a podcast,
(04:06):
especially the radio show you do.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yeah, especially the radio show five Am.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Yeah. I'm speaking to people that I can't see their
faces and it and this will allow us to get
out there and see the faces again. So really excited
about that and and really part of let me say
a couple of things. One the first reaction most people
are going to have, I believe is why are you
going to those cities? Like why when you go to
(04:31):
my city? And that's always the question when you put
together any tour. But Tyler at a good point yesterday
he said, we're sitting here and Tyler said, this is
kind of like we're starting over because in the in
the beginning of music touring two decades ago, no one
knew who I was, and so they did no one
(04:51):
You couldn't just call a city on demand and say
I want to get your prime venue for my artist
Granger Smith. They were like, I don't know, I've never
even heard of you. You have to build your way
up with people that say yes. So not to downplay
these cities. In fact, I want to be grateful that
these are the ones that said yes. And so if
(05:13):
you're wondering why we're going to these cities, we've tried
a bunch of them, and these are the ones that
were like, we would love to have you. So that's
why they sound a bit random like McPherson, Kansas Coming Georgia.
These are the ones that said yes. These are the
ones that are like, yes, we would love to have you.
So that's how it starts.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
That's so cool, And thank you guys for asking me
to go with you. I couldn't go host and kind
of wrangle some of the stuff going on in the moment,
which I love. That's that's producing. I love doing that
part of it, especially a live show. It's going to
be exciting and you know, questions in the moment that
you know, I just I love the whole idea of
(05:52):
they came to just see a good show, and something
will pop up in somebody's mind or their heart, God
will live on their heart. They'll ask the question and
could completely change the atmosphere of the whole of the
whole gathering.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
I've seen this happen. I've seen like the men's events
that I speak at. I know this has happened to you,
but you someone asked a question that ends up changing
the trajectory of every thought in the place. I'm so
excited about this.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Well, and I love that because you you really pushed
for this, like, because we do, we will have a
way for you to scan a que our code and
submit your question. That'll be the majority. But you really
push for the live too, and I'm really glad you
did because I'm like it just it rounds out the
whole live experience.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Of the event and you have to have that element there.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
And what's it going to be like, We don't know
because we have those first five ever right here.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
So yeah. Then the second thing I was going to
say is the reason we finally are doing this now
is Amber's book October the fourteenth. So exciting titles out right, it's.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
Exciting titles out the girl on the bathroom.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Floor, Girl on the bathroom floor.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
Yeah, and we're finishing up lots of things. I've already
talked about it a lot on the socials, but I'm
sharing little bits and pieces of it as the weeks
go on up until released day. I just finished recording
the audiobook so it will be an audio form two.
There were lots of tears during that, but it was
really neat to get to do. And yeah, I'm excited
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to get it in you guys's hands and just pray
that it brings hope to anyone who's hurting and points
people to.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Our lord, whould you record it up here in Austin.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
Oh that's a funny thing, I know, isn't it funny?
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (07:33):
You have literally recording studio here right up. She goes
to Austin recorded in another work, My Fault.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
They said they wanted to have a producer on the line,
and so there was somebody from LA and then the
lady in studio that just wanted to do it that way.
I could possibly do pickups here, but I think I
have to go back to Austin to do my pickups if.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
They need any.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Yeah, you have to do it there. You have to
use that same mic in the same room otherwise. Have
you ever listened to an audiobook and you could tell
something changed right there?
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (08:00):
Well, and I thought I was getting sick right before
I went into record. I was like, I know my
voice is going to be different. Yeah, you can definitely tell,
like either somebody was sick or it's a different mic
something like that.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
A long time ago, I did voiceovers for PBR not
the Beer the bull writing, and I stood in the
room could have been a drum room or a or
an orchestra or whatever. It was massive. I'm like, why
are we here doing this? Like, yeah, there's a reason, you.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Know, Yeah for sure.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah, So yeah, it's funny.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
I walked in the other day, it was actually yesterday,
and Paul and some other videographers were here recording the
the book trailer, the book trailer, and there they're in
there crying in the bathroom.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Have you felt And I'm sure you have. I know
this is a rhetorical question, but like, just hearing the
name of the book has this heaviness.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
Yeah, And I have to give credit to Granger for
that because he gave me the title. He's the one
that they gave me the title, because that's where he
saw me, and that's where I was, you know, throughout
my whole time of grief. And yeah, we filmed a
it'll probably come out to be about a sixty second
ninety second book trailer, just about the book getting people
to pre orders. But yeah, Granger and MAV came home
yesterday and they were watching it on the monitor. I
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didn't know, but I was in the bathroom reliving a lot, crying,
and he said that Maverick was just Maverick was so sad.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
So we walked in. Maverick and I we're at the
EEE Farm. We came in and I saw that the bathroom,
I saw that there was like lighting outside the window,
so I knew they were in there. So I came
in the other direction into the kitchen and there's a
you know, one of the guys that works with Paul
was in there with the monitor that they were He
was monitoring the filming, and he was like, hey, it's
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your mama talking to Maverick. We walk around the monitor
and Amber's on the bathroom floor crying. It was real tears.
And Maverick saw her and goes, no, no, Mama, she's crying.
She's so sad. I need to see her. I need
to see her. And I was like, oh, buddy, she's
pretending she's acting. No, no, she's not. No, she's not.
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I need to see her. I need to see her.
And he was like trying to get to the bathroom.
Trying to stop him because I don't want to break
whatever mood was happening, but it was that compelling, and
then Amber later was like, I was crying.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
I was crying. I was really crying. But of course
you want to tell your son no, it's okay. Mommy's fine.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
But he talked about it last night when I was
putting him to bed.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
You were so sad. You were so sad over.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
A river, and Granger said, it's a weird thing to think.
I was in the bathroom filming this crying because we
don't have river, but we have mav now, and so
I had to. I told Granger the first half of
me crying getting those tears out was thinking.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
About River and the loss.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
But the second part, when we were filming some of
the close ups, was I was crying out of gratitude
for what God has done and that we have Maverick now.
So I don't want him to ever see that and
think I was crying because we lost river and he's
here now. It's like, no, because God has done a
mighty work and we're so grateful and joyful now that
those were tears of joy. So it's it's I hope,
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it's I can't wait to see the edit that Paul
sends us, so that'll be out this month.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Actually, so I have a new picture back here, you
see you, because we got we got the river stuff
going on, and that's why love dirt roads. But yeah,
if you're trying to get a gift for someone that
you think has everything, how about a special video message
from me. It's easy to do. Go to cameo dot
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com slash granger Smith and you put in the prompt
what you want me to say. I get that message
on my phone. I'll say happy birthday, happy anniversary, whatever
personalized message you want me to say to whoever you
want me to say it to. I send it to
you and you give it to them. It's pretty cool.
Go to cameo dot com slash granger Smith. Well, should
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we get to the point here?
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Play this voicemail? This is so good you ready to
hear this? So I'll just kind of give some background.
I get every single phone call that comes in for
after midnight, and there's a bunch. There's a bunch that
have nothing to do with anything that we're talking about.
Some people just call and use that line to have
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companionship of some kind and they'll just talk and it'll
be random. It'll be about nothing, like you couldn't use
it or put it together or build anything around it.
As far as pieces for radio, it's just somebody letting
they don't have anybody else to talk to they heard
a phone number, they picked up the phone and they called,
and they leave it on this voicemail. And so I
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see those and sometimes I'll listen just to make sure
it's nothing crazier that I need to draw attention to.
And most of them are just just that if they're
not about the topic that we're talking about that night.
And then I got this one, the first one, and
then what I do for some of the other phone
calls is I look at the phone number because I
can see the phone number in it, and I saw
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that there were multiples from the same phone number. And
after hearing the first one, I was like, this isn't
the first time he called, so let's see what else
he had to say. And the two the other ones
were just, you know, they he may have chimed in
on the topic at the moment that was in the
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past or something like that, but these phone calls were
particularly about you and me.
Speaker 6 (13:34):
Yea.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
So those calls come in, Is it in real time
of it's in the middle of the night, yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
If it's if they called it yeah two am, Yeah,
it's a if they heard it at two am and
called right then, yes it time stamps, Okay, shows me
when they called and what have you.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
So let's lay out a couple of things before we
play it. Number One, whoever this guy is, I hope
he's listening right now. I highly doubt that he is,
but I hope he is because, and I say that
in a way that like, this isn't trying to go
behind his back. This isn't trying to show something that
you know in secret. I'm bringing this out to the
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light because I genuinely want him to know my heart.
I don't think he's going to care about my heart,
but I want him to know it. Number Two, this
is not a personal phone call he gave us that's
on a private line. This is a public line that
we put out there to play on the air.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
It's implied that you know that this could be played
correct correct.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
So I'm not doing something behind his back. I'm not
without permission playing an audio. This is an audio he
has given us with permission because it's a call a
call in line. He's given us permission through the very
line that he's called on to play it on the air.
And here we are just on a bit different format
here with the podcast. But I say all that because
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Minas that this man would be saved, that the Lord
would save him, that he would do he would run
to Jesus. And that's my desire with anyone. So let's
listen to it together, and as we're listening to it,
be thinking of ways with our Bibles to kind of
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break it apart. Because it's really good to listen to
the heart of a scoffers as it's as he's articulating
very clearly his thoughts. It helps us to go, oh,
this is so biblical. This is not out of the blue,
this is absolutely expected. All right, go ahead and play
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this thing. We don't know his.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Name, Granger Smith.
Speaker 7 (15:48):
A job I could never do is be it radio
host that promotes all of the right winging biblical.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Bulls, promote so annoying God. Your show makes me actually
hate that I like country music because when I listen
to you and.
Speaker 8 (16:11):
The questions you ask and the things you talk about God,
it just drives me crazy. I do understand that other
people don't always follow every Christian belief that you do.
Jesus Age Christ, and I know you're probably never going
to hear this message because your producers are going to
(16:33):
edit it and delete it. But the producers, if you're
listening to this, I just don't understand how y'all promote
this crap.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Y'all are horrible people. You're terrible, you really are. You're
terrible people because.
Speaker 7 (16:51):
You promote some of the most narrow minded crap on
open radio. Maybe in a perfect world, y'all will let
Granger hear this so that he can know that I
don't care about the fact that you love Jesus Christ.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
I don't care about that. Okay. I work night shifts,
and unfortunately I have to listen to your after midnight show,
and it drives me crazy, Like I just heard one
of Granger's Jesus Christ blah blah blah Jesus Christ blah
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blah blah. Like it's just it's embarrassing. It's so it
makes me so angry, Like it makes me embarrassed when
I listen to his show because I know that there's
a world out there of people who are listening to
his crop and they're just swallowing a hole.
Speaker 6 (17:52):
And here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
I mean, I remember one of the things that Granger
put out there was like, call me and ask me
a question. Who that is? Granger Smith to answer anyone's question, like, honestly,
what kind of experience that this failed country music artist?
Speaker 6 (18:11):
What what does he have to actually share with anyone
to have and invite them to call and ask him
a question?
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Man, it makes me Yeah, I really wish I'll show
would get canceled and stop feeding ignorance, to stop it please.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Well he was polite there at the end.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Yeah, very clear, he's very articulate. Let me say something
here too. Probably I would assume most people that listen
to this podcast don't listen to After Midnight, which is
what this man is referred to. He's not talking about
this podcast. He's talking about After Midnight, which which is
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a country music radio show, overnight show that I host.
The majority of what happens on that station is great
country music. And then in between songs and and twice
an hour, I have a topic. I told Marshall, It's
not like I'm laying out penal, substitutionary atonement and the
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cross of of the Messiah. You know, I'm saying things like.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
You did bring that up once. Maybe maybe, I.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Mean he's he acts like he just went to a
church service or something.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
You made him sit through a Sunday morning service. Yeah, yeah,
in the middle of the night.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Yeah, but instead I'll say things like what what's I
don't know, what's example of something that we we get
deep on? What he what do you think he was
even referencing here.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Well in in that I couldn't think of anything because
it was a job that you could never do? Was
the topic that night. What's the job that you could
never do? And he addressed that and to set up
the rest of his phone call.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
So yeah, so he listens every night obviously because he's
he's kind of compiled a bunch of thoughts together.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
And that's what I was thinking is obviously we love
that he listens to the show. Yeah, we're not forcing
him to sit and listen to it.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
That's what it sounds like he's doing for so much.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Yeah, I don't know. Maybe it plays in the place
that he works, you.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Know, maybe he's in a warehouse and after amen, Praise
the Lord, if that's the case. But for I guess
what I'm trying to say is it's not a religious show,
right right, it's not. And I don't I for sure
don't proselytize on the show. I don't say I don't
say on the air. Come to the Lord Jesus and
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be saved. Look to look to Christ. You know, I
don't say I say that on this podct. I said
that on my Instagram. Maybe he sees my social media.
I don't know. My point is he is getting he's
getting the aroma of Christ through the radio waves, you know,
he he is getting the gospel, uh, the aroma of
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the Gospel through the air. So I understand that not
everyone that listens to the show is a Christian or
even cares about it being a Christian. I understand that.
Of course, I understand that about this very podcast right now,
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and yes that I'm perfectly aware. We'll start with us first.
One Corinthians one eighteen is the first thing I thought of.
The word of the Cross is folly to those who
are perishing, but to us who are being saved, it
is the power power of God. So in light of this,
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the word of the Cross is folly. It's it's stupid,
it's ridiculous. It is what did he say, crap ignorance.
He kept saying, promoting this ignorance. So in him, to
his his veiled eyes, he's been blinded because of the
hardness of his heart. These are biblical terms. I'm not
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making this up. He's been blinded because of the hardness
of his heart, and because of that, the the the
aroma of the Gospel, the the the word, the word
of the Cross is so stupid, it's it's idiotic to him.
And so because in light of that, it is obvious
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that someone would be frustrated or weirded out. In fact,
it's actually expected that if if I put stuff out
there into the into a public space about Christ, just
the same as if I was on a wooden box
in the middle of the public square and I was
preaching the Gospel, there would be people that walk by
and go, becut's an absolute idiot. That's expected, right, And
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so there's that. We'll start with that.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
Yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Appreciated that he included me. You never hear my voice
like you just got it for both of us.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
Well, Andy said, in a perfect world, you would let
Granger hear it.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
So it's a perfect world today.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Welcome to the perfect world.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
I got to hear it.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Friend. I had him for a little while and I
kept forgetting to play him for Granger, and yesterday I go, hey,
I have something to play for you. And before you listen.
I'm actually really encouraged by this, and I hope you
are too. And we listened to him. And in John
Book of John, chapter fifteen, verse eighteen, if the world
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hates you, remember that it hated me first. The world
would love you. I would love you as one of
its own if you belong to it. But you're no
longer part of the world. I chose you to come
out of the world, so it hates you.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
That's where I was going to. But I'll go I'll
go somewhere different.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Yeah. Hearing the word of Christ, it gets you a little,
a little choked up.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Done every time that and I'm sorry, like even just
just it does.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
My mom too, Like if speaks out loud the words
of Jesus, if my mom speaks it out loud, she'll
cry every time.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
I try to read out aloud every day, and even
reading out loud to myself, it like it just has
so much power.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
So before you go and say it again the top
of John fifteen, verse eighteen.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Verse eighteen, If the world hates you, remember that it
hated me first. Amen.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
Yeah, And I'll go to what you just said in
a second. I'll say what what I was thinking First,
I have two verses, So we're gonna go to Matthew ten,
verse twenty two. Matthew ten, verse twenty two, and you
will be hated by all because of my name. But
it is the one who has endured to the end
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who will be saved. So as Granger said, it is
biblical that you will be persecuted two Timothy three twelve. Indeed,
all who desire to live a godly life in Christ
Jesus will be persecuted. All who desire to live a
godly life. But I think about like Granger said, it
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is folly to those who are perishing. It is folly
when you are blinded, when the veil is over your eyes.
Because such were some of us, all of us before
the Lord opened our eyes. I used to think the
same thing when I had friends who were so I
would call it religious.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
Back then, I didn't get it.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
I didn't understand because my heart was hardened.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
The veil was over my eyes.
Speaker 5 (25:53):
So now having this new life that I cry when
I read the Word of God, it makes me want
to see those people and be like.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Can you not see?
Speaker 5 (26:01):
But I have to remember that I was once dead
in my sins, and it's only by the power of
the Holy Spirit that I was made alive, that I
can see now. So I have to look at this
guy and we have to pray for him. Pray, Lord
open his eyes so that we can see and know
the power of your word. And it will bring you
to tears like it does you, because that's the.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Goal, right, is the revelation of my own sin?
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Is the separation of me and God and the love
of a man who yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
Yeah, who's yeah, who scorns the word of God.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Died for me? Yeah? Really? How can I not be?
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Is it not such a revelation for us? Is it
not such its own defense of the gospel that here
we are, two thousand years later, after our Lord walked
walked with his cross, and people spit on him and
yelled at him and called him a fool and drove
nails into his hands and feet. Is it not such
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a witness to that that two thousand years later, this
man just hears this and gets angry. He gets angry.
If I had talked about Buddha, he wouldn't say a
word issue. If I had talked about Mohammad, he would
have thoughts about it, but he wouldn't get angry. Romans
eight seven, Paul writes, for the mind that is set
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on the flesh is hostile to God, for it does
not submit to God's law. Indeed it cannot that. That
is that that gives us no surprise that there's pushback,
because when a mind is set on the flesh and
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not on the spirit, it's hostile to God. For the
verse right before that says for the for to set
the mind on the flesh is death, but to set
the mind on the spirit is life and peace. So
it's no surprise that we feel from this man anger,
which is just very strange. If I think about it,
if you were unbiased in this world somehow, like if
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you're another from another planet and you came and looked
at this, you'd be like, here's a radio host that's
speaking of hope that's within him, and peace and rest
that he has in a belief system that he believes.
Whether it's real or not, he believes it. How could
you listen to that and get angry? Well, it would
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only be because your mind is hostile to the ways
of God.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
That's that.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
And we have to say almost every time we have
to have to stop and go as was I one day,
as was I before, as was I. Oh God, if
it wasn't for your mercy, if it wasn't for your
saving grace, that through Christ would be like this man. Lord,
would you save this man? Would you open his eyes?
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Maybe through the radio show, maybe through someone else, maybe
the seed is planted. Lord, would you save him so
we could have peace and he could stop being hostile
to his own maker, the one that knitted him together
in his mother's womb.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Wow, that hostility and hate you hear in his voice,
I believe is the defense mechanism of sin. Yeah, it's
defending sin for now until it's broken through and it
just needs a crack. And the crack could be the
song or the or the break that plays before the song,
or the topic that we're talking about. One of those
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is going to crack that barrier of hate with him.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
There is a belief what you're saying is, and I
know this from experience, through people that I've dealt with
like this, there is a sin in his life that
he cannot let go that a Christian worldview says is wrong.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
It's as simple as that, living a lifestyle, doing something
that that he has heard the Christian worldview is against
and that to him is hostile to him.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Even though you may not, I mean you just you know,
we talked about what you're not prosthetizing on afterbidden Now
I'm not really show but something in that ruffle the
feathers of that sin.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
Yes, it was interesting that he said it's so narrow
minded when our belief system in Christianity is is God
welcoming everyone who turns from their sin and turns to
the Lord. There's no there's no bias, there's no skin color,
there's no socioeconomic status, there's nothing that can keep you
away from the love of God. If you turn from
your sin and come, it is the most welcoming that
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there is. That he says it's so narrow minded.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Narrow minded is to listen to a radio host and
say your view is wrong. An open minded way would
be like, that's his view, that does bother me, Let
him do him. But it all comes down to sin.
There is a conviction inside him that he's convicted by sin.
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It's confronting him in his own spirit. And although he
wouldn't say it that way, that's that's what it comes
down to, is he has a sin that he is,
that he loves, and it is his idol, it is
his identity. I don't know what it is, but all
of us know because we've all shared in something like this.
None of us are indifferent to this. We go, oh, yeah,
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there was a sin of the flesh that I once
held onto. And the Bible says, turn away, repent, turn
away from it, and turn to me and be saved.
And that message is folly to some people that are
coveting that sin, and their eyes are are darkened and
they go, no, no, all you people are you know,
your biggots, you narrow minded biggots promoting this ignorant crap.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
You know.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
That's that's what they say.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Folly. Also foolishness. Yeah, some versions say foolishness and that
it is foolish that a guy claims to be God
and doesn't rise to power, he instead gets killed. Who
has hope in that? But he came back and that
is that's the that's the difference maker between him and
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Buddha and Mohammad and any other guy that you want
to put in that place. He did this for you
and me, and he came back just like he said
he would.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
And he's coming back again again.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Yeah, yeah, you know, there's uh And I've brought this
up before on some other topic we were talking about
that was similar. But we there's Pen and Teller, who
are the magicians. Yeah, one of them doesn't talk tell her.
Penn does and has been very vocal about his he is.
He's not a believer, in fact, he's not agnostic, but atheist,
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thank you. He's an atheist. And he even he puts
that like he even talks about it in his in
his show. And he recounted a story of a guy
who and after the shows, they'll go out those sign autographs,
and sometimes they'll give props from the show to crowd
members and what have you. And this guy came up
and was holding some props from one of the particular
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illusions that he had received from them, that he'd gotten
from the night before, and he goes he waited patiently,
and he stood to the side, and I noticed him,
and he came up and he showed me what he
had received. He very complimentary of the show, complimentary of them,
and he said, he handed me a a Gideon Bible,
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but it's just where it's like Psalms. And then the
new to in the Gospels. Yeah, so just one of those.
And he handed it to me, and he goes, I
wrote a note in the front of it that I'd
like for you, but I want you to have this,
and he said, he looked me in the eye and
he was kind. I'm not a believer, and he knows it.
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And I have no respect for anyone who believes that
there is a heaven and a hell and there's an
eternity spent somewhere, and you don't tell somebody who doesn't
believe about it if you know it. He even gave
a comparison. He goes, I can you may not believe
that a truck is coming at you, but I'm telling
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you that a truck is coming at you. There will
be at some point I tackle you. And that guy
did with his gift that day. He was kind, he
was generous, and I knew that he believed it. He goes,
He told me, I'm a businessman and I have all
my faculties. I'm not a wacko, and I want to
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share this with you. And he has all the respect
in the world for him, and I don't have it
for anybody else as a believer that will not witness
and proselytize to somebody they know that.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Is that is so convicting, very much. So, yeah, I
know that Bible. It's green, it's yes, absolutely, I've had
one in my whole life, when I was a baby,
if someoney gave it to me. It's actually right in here.
It's got the psalms in the in the New Testament.
You know, how much would you have to hate someone?
Speaker 2 (35:27):
That's what he says, Yes, that's right to.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Not share that if I if I, if the Lord
has done such a work in my life and so
many around me, and I had a public platform, how
much would I have to hate you, mister caller, to
not share the hope that is in me? And I understand,
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I understand boundaries of you know, I don't want to.
I don't want to overstep a platform that's been given
to me by the Lord. I don't want to squander
it by by doing silly things, you know, like talking
about things that you know over and over that don't
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that shouldn't be talked about. But if I'm going to
shut up and be silent for every show and not
tell you about the hope, the joy that is in me,
in some way if I can't articulate that, articulate that
in some way, for instance, coming up with a new
topic and thinking in my mind. I for instance, we
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had a topic, our latest topic that said what do
you do to lift your mood? That was a topic,
and everyone's calling, like, I call my grandson, I'd like
to take a drive and listen to George Strade. I
like to throw the frisbee with my dogs. And I'm
hearing this and going, yeah, great, all that's all great.
Those are all great moodlifters. In the very end, I
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was like, you know, what's something I like to do.
I like to read the Bible, and I got I
like to go to some place like Jeremiah seventeen, you know,
and I read like four or five verses. I didn't ply.
That's not proselytizing. That's just saying, you know what I
do to lift my mood. Go to Jeremia seventeen and
I read I read something out of there. And if
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that is seen to anyone it's wrong, then that's that's
sign of the times. Let me let me actually show
you which.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
Is so interesting because all of those other things would
be accepted because you said.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Something about what if I said I meditate. I'm Buddhists,
and I like to empty my mind and have a
moment of zen, and I do sixty seconds of zen, right,
and I focus on my breathing. No one would go,
you stop this Buddhist crap this it would you stop
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talking about No one says that. But here's what I said.
I said. I said, I like to go to dre seventeen,
and I say, I read blessed is the man who
trust in the Lord. Whose trust is the Lord. He's
like a tree planted by water that sends out its
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roots by the stream and does not fear when heat comes,
for its leaves remain green, and it's not anxious in
the year of drought, for it does not cease to
bear fruit. That's how I lift my mood.
Speaker 5 (38:33):
Yeah, and you know, I've heard people say I wish
people would stop shoving Jesus down my throat, And it's like,
we're not trying to shove Jesus down your throat. But
if you only knew, if you only knew, oh yeah,
if you only knew what he did for you and
how much he loves you, that's what we want.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
You to know.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
So to that amber. Let's talk about hope, because we've
explained why where this comes from. But here's the hope
and Corinthians for starting verse six. For God who said
let light shine out of darkness, has shown in our
hearts to give the light of the knowledge of the
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glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ. So
God can turn the darkest heart, the hardest heart. God
could shine his light and break through it. He does it,
did it with me, He did it was with countless
people throughout the Bible as we read it. And that
is the hope we have. That's the hope we have
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for this this caller, and that's why that's why it's
worth it. He said at the very end, I hope
her show's canceled. And you know what it may be
one day because right now conservative culture of our agricultural farming,
call it republican, call it conservative, call it whatever you want.
(39:55):
I'm not into promoting that, But what I am saying
is that's that is aligned itself with Christianity right now. Yes,
and that just that happens to be my people. Yeah,
you know, I live in the country. I am a
former country singer, failed former country singer, as he said.
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So those are my people, and right now my people
are aligned with my God. But that doesn't always happen.
They will become misaligned again. And when I'm misaligned and
and I'm not making money for the I'm not making
an advertiser money for the big conglomerates, whom I love
because they have given me a job right now through
the Lord. But when that doesn't work anymore, they'll cancel me.
(40:41):
So here's the question. When that happens, When that day happens,
if it does, If it does, would it have been
worth it for this man to hear the gospel?
Speaker 2 (40:50):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (40:52):
Would it be worth it to see this man in
heaven one day?
Speaker 4 (40:56):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (40:57):
And he goes you. It was you.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
I don't know if you remember, but I called into
your radio show.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
It was you.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
I heard about Jesus one night working at the warehouse
stocking shelves, and I was so sick of it, and
I was so tired of hearing about your hope and
your peace and your God. And I couldn't stop wrestling
with it. I couldn't stop thinking about it. And finally,
one day I just wanted to prove you wrong. I
picked up one of your beloved Bibles. And then I
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started to read and I learned that he was my
savior too. He was you would it be worth it
to get canceled? Amen, cancel me for one for one person.
It's worth it.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Yeah, agreed.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
I love that he called it.
Speaker 4 (41:54):
Did he say his name?
Speaker 1 (41:56):
No, he didn't say his name.
Speaker 4 (41:57):
Well, everybody listening, just pray for this man.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
If you want it, I can get it for you.
It's on the color ide.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
A couple more thoughts here, Romans one sixteen. This is
the natural law and man understanding. All man is is
we are all guilty because God has made himself known
to us through creation, through everything. So if we deny him,
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we are suppressing truth. It's not that we don't know,
it's not that He hasn't provided enough information for us.
It's because we have suppressed what is already true. Romans
one sixteen. For I am not ashamed of the Gospel,
Paul says, For it is the power of God for
salvation to everyone who believes, so we should. Jesus says
(42:52):
it like this in Luke nine. For whoever is ashamed
of me and of my words, Paul says.
Speaker 7 (42:58):
Not me.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
Paul says I'm not ashamed, in response to Jesus saying,
for whoever is ashamed of me in my words of him,
will the son of Man be ashamed when he comes
in his glory and the glory of the Father and
of the Holy angels.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
I don't want to be on that side. Here's another thing,
Paul says, and and this is this, This is when
we when when the ship goes down, if we go
down with being canceled, and Lord willing, Lord willing, we
won't be. But we might. But that's not Our goal
is to Our goal is to no our What our
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goal is not is to try to not be canceled, right, correct?
I don't know how to say that. Our goal is
not to try to not be canceled. Our goal is
to be faithful, as as faithful stewarts, as jars of clay,
with a message greater than we could possibly even grasp.
And Paul says to this, Christ will be honored in
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my body, whether by life or by death. For to
me to live as Christ and to die is gain.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
Right.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
So I'm no apostle, Paul, but I want to emulate that.
I want to say, on my deathbed, how did you
do grangeer when grandkids come around, how did grandpa do?
I will say, Christ will be. Christ was honored in
my body, my whole life, by a life or by death.
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So well, let's go to first Peter. Three.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
This is.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
The the apologetic verse of the Bible. When when Peter
says to make a defense, that word a polygia in
the Greek means to to make a military defense. That's
where really where that word comes from. And this is
what he says. In your hearts. Peter says, honor Christ,
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the Lord is Holy, always, always being prepared to make
a defense to anyone who asked you for a reason,
for the hope that is in you. Yet do it
with gentleness and respect, having a good conscience, so that
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when you are slandered, those who revile your good behavior
in Christ may.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
Be put to shame, and not if you are slandered. Yeah,
when you.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
Are so gentleness, respect, love, a true heart for the lost,
and always ready to make that defense.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:53):
Amen.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
The last thing Jesus told us a mark before he left,
before we send it into heaven to all the world.
Speaker 3 (46:01):
Go.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
Yeah, Hey, let me just say I am just I'm
so I'm so grateful thank the Lord for you every
day that we work together in a secular space, because
you have my back and I have year back, and
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you brought this call to me. You could have if
you were of the world, if you're of the flesh,
you would have done exactly what a man of the
flesh thought you were going to do. Delete it, not
bring it to me, because you're not a man of
the flesh. You're a man of the spirit of God.
You thought differently than the man of the flesh thought
(46:44):
a man of the flesh would do, and you brought
it to me, and you said, this encouraged me. I
think it might encourage you. And I said, let's put
it on the podcast.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
Yeah. Yeah, Well I'm feelings mutual because there's not I
was out. I was out a radio, done, moved on
and glad for it. It was great for me and
my family for so long. But emotionally and spiritually, I
(47:18):
was done with the radio. It was in my rear
view mirror. And then you get a call and we're
working together on EE radio and some it's just like
some just makes sense here And yeah, I'm very thankful too.
And I wouldn't be doing this without you.
Speaker 4 (47:38):
I'm just gonna sit over here and cry while you guys,
well we.
Speaker 1 (47:42):
Broke out of it.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
We brow out meet right here for a hug.
Speaker 5 (47:46):
And because I know all the backstory, and a lot
of people listening know all the backstory of of everything,
and it's just really really neat to see how God
works through everything.
Speaker 1 (47:56):
Yeah, So Lord, we pray for this man that he
would be saved, would hear the gospel, and then he
would he would buy the power of the gospel, that
he would be safe, convicted of a sin and turn
to you, and then we would see him one day
in eternity.
Speaker 2 (48:09):
And until he does, I hope he's annoyed every night.
Speaker 1 (48:13):
Just a pebble in his shoe without taking that shoe
off him, fixing that pebble, and there we are again.
Speaker 4 (48:20):
And then I hope he calls back, he goes.
Speaker 1 (48:23):
So you go call every day, buddy, if you can
get his number in his name, maybe I'll start talking
to him. Maybe I'll just answer one day.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
Hello.
Speaker 1 (48:33):
I know this is a record and.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
Trying to get a hold of you.
Speaker 1 (48:37):
Oh yeah, okay, cool. Appreciate you, appreciate you, appreciate you.
Will you be back on before your book releases. Hopefully
you're the boss, No boss, all right, Love you guys.
Thank you so much for hanging out with me on
this episode of the granger Smith Podcast. I appreciate you
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