December 14, 2023 • 45 mins
We finally got to watch a 2023 Countdown to Christmas movie this week! How could we watch anything other than the one starring the Party of Five sibling duo, Scott Wolf and Lacey Charbert. This movie check's the box for the annual royalty-in-a-made-up-town movie. And after watching we want to go to Glecrave, Scotland stat! Come listen to find out what we thought, get Lacey's winter coat count for the movie, and find out how much it would cost to outfit the Glencrave castle with our favorite Balsam Hill trees (spoiler alert: It's a lot).
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Hi. I'm Jenny. Hi,I'm Carrie. We're best friends and new
moms. We're also the ogs ofHallmark Christmas Movies. That's right. We've
been watching these movies since long beforethey became a Christmas juggernaut. And now
we're here to talk all things Hallmarkwith you because we know you're watching too.
Sit back, relax, and getyour Hallmark on. We are the
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Hallmark Junkies. Ho ho ho.The Hallmark Junkies are back and we are
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super excited today. And by excited, I mean possibly incoherent. That's what
happens when you have a two yearold and a baby, which Jenny and
I both happened to have. Though, I'm Carrie and I'm Jenny, and
Jenny has been up since about fourthirty am and my son has his first
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cold and has not slept in thirtysix hours. So this is gonna be
a fun, pod fabulous weekend.Yeah, it's been great. Also,
it's really late at night, orat least late at night for us.
So yeah, we just hope wemake sense because we have a really great
movie that we were really excited about. Also, our producer, Harry aka
my Dog is not with us.Today because he's sleeping somewhere else right now.
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At least he's sleeping. Yeah,at least he was sleeping. Yeah,
he would be sleeping. Yes.So, Jenny, what movie are
we talking about today? We aretalking about the twenty twenty three movie bringing
Back Party of Five Siblings A MerryScottish Christmas. And you know that really
was the big deal with this movieis that Lacy Sver and Scott Wolf,
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who played siblings on Party of Fivein the nineties, reunited this movie.
And at first we were all like, oh, are they love interesting?
Yeah, that was breaking me out, going to be super creepy. But
no, they're playing siblings again.They very sweet. Yeah, it is
sweet, and I was excited aboutit. I want to see more like
reunions, Like we could have hada DJ Tanner Stephanie Judith Tanner reunion,
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except we can't because CCB left usfor that other channel. But whatever,
did you watch Party of Five?I watched I think two episodes in my
whole life. Oh, one ofthe people had cancer, I think,
and he was drinking this drink Iremember that in the hospital and Lacy cried.
Wow. I also think I watchedtwo episodes one they were doing a
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what's that called an intervention supple becauseI guess he became an alcoholic at some
point. And another one I don'treally remember, but I know I've watched
at least two. Yeah, Ithink too. That's fine. I tried
to get into it because I thoughtit was pretty cool. But yeah,
yeah, but there it is.So should we just jump right into it
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before we both fall asleep? Let'sjump right in? Okay, Okay,
We're going to start out with PictureIt, named after our favorite golden girl,
Sofia and how she started all herstories. All right, Picture It,
Glen Crave, Scotland, twenty twentythree. I should say it's a
made up town in Scotland. Ilooked it up. Glenday and Scott Morgan,
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siblings in Workaholics, are spending thisChristmas in Glen Crave, Scotland.
You see, their mom, Joe, who grew up in Scotland, has
asked them very last minute to come, which is raising their eyebrows considering their
last family vacation was in a yurtin the desert, and that's when their
mom told them they were moving toSanta Cruz, California so she could teach.
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It turns out they aren't just spendingChristmas in glen Crave. They are
spending Christmas in a seven hundred yearyear old castle in Glenn Crave, which
is a shock to both of them, Lindsay, who is a doctor running
a clinic in la and Scott,who is attacks attorney from San Francisco.
You mean, Brad, Oh,I'm sorry, Yes, Brad, Scott.
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It's okay because I will be callingLacey Lacy, Brad, good job.
Yeah, thank you for catching that, Carrie. Do you think they
wonder about the cost of a lastminute Christmas in Scotland with lights and like
a car picking you up and stayingin a castle. Clearly they do not.
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No, they just get off theplane and get their eggnog latte and
Nick missile to latte. I believeit was. Yeah. I mean they
both have I guess, good jobsand make good money and didn't have to
take out loans to get those goodjobs. So they're they're That's that's my
assumption. No, I thought themom was paying for it. Oh,
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but I was still I was like, why aren't they questioning where the mom's
getting this smut? If she's likeyou know, I just teach him.
They were doing well. But yeah, it could be their mom paying for
it. Yeah, maybe she madeit big in folk rock. Maybe.
So Lindsay and Brad not Scott,noticed that their mom is heading to the
private quarters, which is the fourthfloor of the castle. So later they
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sneak up and they go through herstuff and they find out, surprise,
their mom is actually a duchess inGlen Crave, believe it or not.
So we have the royalty in amade up this time town storyline, which
you know we have that per year. So Lindsay and Brad they're pretty pissed
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about that, and they immediately confronttheir mom and she confesses that she ran
away from the royal life at twentyto follow some silly American and pursue her
career in folk rock. We don'tknow how that career ended. Perhaps that's
why she got her money. Hermom had them had really long hair.
Well that's what you have when you'rein folk rock. I mean, did
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you notice the hair when they didthe flashback? I actually didn't, And
you know I don't like flashbacks,so maybe that's why I didn't. I
probably like turned it away. No, not at all, oh my gosh,
what about in books? I probablyhandle them better in books like in
a movie. Yeah, I hope. So I put them in books a
lot. So her mom, Joepursued left us, you know, the
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royal life to pursue her career infolk rock, and she actually just hid
that entire side of her family fromher kids that she later had because she
wanted them to have a quote normallife. But now her brother Daniel,
who was the duke and ran GlenCrave, he died from a heart attack.
So she's basically now inherited this castle. She has this title. Her
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kids can be duke and duchess ifthey want. It's kind of just,
you know, it's trouble. SoLindsay she's like, like, you know
what, I just found out I'ma duchess. I'm mad at my mom
not getting along with my brother.We find out they you know, kind
of have a pass e side noteis also not getting along with his wife
Sarah, And so Lindsay's like,Okay, I'm going to book a flight
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out of here. Yeah, becausewhat a crappy Christmas right now? Yes,
it's not going well, but youknow what, it gets a little
bit better because she runs into thehot property manager Mac Bell, and she
actually ran into him the night beforetoo, But he decides, you know
what, somebody here needs to goin a horse drawn carriage. She agrees
to go on a carriage ride andsee the crowns and he chops down a
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tree for Glenn Crave, which issuper hot. He plants a new one
and she's like, you know what, maybe I'm not going to leave after
all. Two things, Yeah,Number one, this is an actual note.
I have. Max's teeth are reallystraight. I don't know if you
notice that. I did not notice. He has great teeth. Veneers are
just straight. It can't be natural. I mean, I just can't.
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I don't know, but it's worthanother look. Okay. Also, they
said that in the castle Glen Cravethey have thirty Christmas trees, which made
me think are these Balsam Hills?Because if they're Balsom Hill trees, that
would be a total of sixty thousanddollars at a minimum, and probably more.
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And I now know this because youknow, I'm obsessed with Balsam Hill,
even though I cannot even afford likethe tree hooks to put the ornaments
on Balsam Hill. My mom cheaterPants McGee, as we like to call
her, she somehow gets a BalsamHill catalog and over Thanksgiving we were going
through it pricing it out. OhI think they were thirty real trees.
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That's how I took it. Well, I hope so, because all the
money from this place will go towardthe Balsam Hill tree. Anyway, they
might lose the castle. Yeah,that's interesting they had thirty trees because at
some point I think they said theyhad twenty two rooms or twenty two bedrooms
or something like that. Thirty bathrooms. Yeah, yeah, And I was
like, you know what, thisis the stuff down for Lacey because when
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she was in Cordinia and she wasyou know, ended up marrying the prince
from there, they had like threehundred rooms. Oh yeah, so she's
really kind of like she was inthe Gold Round on her luck well because
she was marrying a prince. Now, this movie is just duke and duchess,
so I'm assuming that's below prince andprincess. It is far below apparently.
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Yeah. Yeah, yeah, onlythirty bathrooms. Come on, yeah,
I don't know how they get bywith only thirty So it turns out
that it's a good decision that Lindsaydecides to stay in glenn Crave because it
is the best Christmas town in Scotlandever. Yeah, Lindsay and her family,
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they go to the Christmas Market,which has dancing at it. They
do dancing at the Christmas Market.They go to many happy hours, a
lot of happy hours, a lotof happy hours. They drink bad Santas,
and the bad Santas allow Brad toopen up to Lindsay about the marriage
troubles that he's having, which arerelated to struggling to conceive, going through
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IVF, things like that. Kindof a real moment in the movie.
Yeah. They also get to judgea whiskey competition and we got a whiskey
tasting montage which was amazing. Yeahwe' I don't think we've ever had a
whiskey I would assume it's the firstever whiskey tasting montage, but I like
it. Yeah. Yeah, theywent to a local Christmas party and we
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got some traditional Scottish dancing and acameo from Will Kemp, who was her
love in the Christmas Walts. Ohmy god. So I have a note
about this too because she looks athim and she's like, do I know
you? I know? Yeah,I love it? And I was like
what the heck I was because Ididn't recognize him. So I was like
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what is this? God be anotherplot, like is there another person?
Like what is happening? And thenI read that they've actually been in three
other Hallmark movies. Yeah, Ithink The Dancing Detective, which is a
fabulous name. Yeah, I haven'tseen it, but I did like that
name. And then was do youknow what the other one is? No?
I don't think it was a Christmasone though, I don't know.
Oh, but I saw that ChristmasWaltz one. And so also when she
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goes because he has her come upand dance with him, and she puts
her arms up to like can danceyeah, and he's like no no,
She's like, I only know howto waltz and tango. That was nice.
That was a nice nod to them. Yeah. Yeah, I like
these little Hallmark Easter eggs they've beendropping this year and the yeah, yeah,
that's fun. So all these festiveactivities not only make this the best
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town in Scotland for Christmas, butthey're drawing Lindsay and Mac the property manager
closer and closer. They're also bringingBrad and Lindsay back together, and it
seems that it's starting to heal thewounds that made them drift apart for so
many years. We see that brothersister bond coming back together, and even
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Brad and Sarah seem to be doingbetter. So, I mean, apparently
this town is just magical. Andwe have not even made it to the
Winter Solstice Festival, which is likethe big thing that we've been talking about.
The whole movie is like this WinterSoul successiful And can I tell you
that every time they had a happyhour, which was like every other scene,
I'm like, oh, we madeit to the Solstice Festival. It's
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still not it really? Oh,I guess it's not so the Soulstice Festival.
As if all of this hasn't beenamazing. At the Solstice Festival,
they have Shetland Ponies, they havelike a big huge bonfire, they have
Santa, and they have Mac thehot ground manager and the straight teeth with
very straight teeth, and Mac andLindsay kiss after the Soul Sus Festival.
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I mean, it has it allreally, Yeah, yeah, it really
does. I mean, this isamazing and it's so magical that Brad and
Sarah say, you know what,I think we're gonna stay here. We're
going to take the titles and we'regoing to become Duke and Duchess and forget
about our life back home. AndLindsay gets very upset about this. Yeah,
like she said, you didn't eventell me that you were going to
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stay. You didn't include me inyour conversations. I wasn't quite sure why
she was so angry, right,and I'm going to comment more on that,
okay, coming up. But shegets over it pretty quick, Yeah,
she sure does. Yeah, Andso she makes it to what I
think is the final Glen Crave eventbefore Christmas, which is the Glen Crave
Christmas eve Ball. And I knowyou would have an issue with that ball,
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but I thought it was okay becausethey're clearly not Italian, they're not
in Scotland. Yeah, I don'treally know what Scottish Christmas traditions are.
Well, we saw like every singleone in this movie, assuming it was
guessing a lot of drinking. Yeah, it seemed amazing. Yeah, which
was cool. And they had thatcomment toward the beginning, right about how
it was illegal to celebrate Christmas,and it's true. I looked at it.
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Yeah, we'll actually illegal to celebrateChristmas in Scotland until nineteen fifty eight,
and not just sort of illegal.It was like people started to celebrate
again, but you still wouldn't seeit in public until after it. Truly,
I think in like the eighteen hundredspeople started to celebrate again, but
like it was nineteen fifty eight whenpeople like truly started celebrating. According to
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the one source I read it onwhich I really hope is you know,
yeah, incredibly was it Wikipedia?Okay, we made it past the Christmas
eve ball and the next day isobviously Christmas, and it's amazing because Lindsay
gives everyone matching Christmas Chammis. Everyone'shappy again. Lindsay's gotten over her anger
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towards Brad and Sarah, and shetakes Jammys over to Mac, who did
not get the day off. Apparentlyhe's working families back together. But Lindsay's
still like, you know what,I think I'm going back to la I
need to go back to my clinicthere. I'm a doctor there, even
though I don't really like my job. Yeah, and she was very clear
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that she didn't like her job,and there was a clinic right there in
Glenn Cray that she could not.Anyway, we get this scene where she
drives the way to again she's beingdriven. Let's be real, they have
money, And I honestly, Carrie, that was the worst song I have
ever heard in a Hallmark movie whenshe was driving away. No, no,
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yeah, that song. No,that is a Michael Boublez song.
He's not singing it. It's sobad. You know, I love Michael
Boublez like passionately. I have seenhim twice in concert, like he's amazing,
but it's a different version. Wassinging it? Not good? It's
amazing, called home it almost italmost made me not like the movie.
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That's how. But anyway, doyou know that I really thought she was
gonna leave, Like I was like, oh really, Yeah, they're doing
a twist this year. Well,well they did kind of draw it out
with that song. Yeah, andyour favorite song I May Get You now
added to a stork beret and I'mgetting you that song and as many versions
as I can find, please pleasedo well, you know what, I'll
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take any version except for the onethat was in that movie, it would
be better, So they really drawit out. They play the bad music
and then Lindsay's like, turn thecar around and she goes back and she's
like, you know what, I'mgonna stay here. I'm going to be
a duchess. Use me, Macthe ground manager, do you want a
girlfriend that's a duchess? Because guesswhat, Scott's are hot? And he's
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like, yes, I do.And then we get a one year later
epilogue, Love an Apple Again.They have the matching Christmas jammies. Love
It. Sarah and Brad have ababy. Yeah, Mac and Lindsay are
still together and they are living inthe magical made up town of in Christ,
Scotland. Wow. What a movie. Yeah, what a recap.
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He did a great job. Well, thank you. Yeah we should we
see cb it. Let's do it. What do you think? One to
five CCBs? Okay you might besurprised, Okay, I because I did
like this movie. I'm giving itthree are you CCBs? I didn't dislike
this movie. It just sort ofwas flat for me, like very surface
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level, as in, I thinkthere were so many storylines that they couldn't
really ever dive deep into any ofthem. So it felt very like it's
very surface level. So we havethe estrange siblings, but why were they
estrange? Like what was going onthere? Yeah, it seemed like they
just drifted apart. It was weirdfor him to be that estranged, right,
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And then we have like Lacy's roamingon with Mac the Straight Teeth house
keeper. Then we have Brad andSarah's marriage slash infertility issues, which that's
a huge one. And then wehave the mom and dead brother sort of
like the mom wanting to reconnect buthe dies and then she just has this
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guilt and like that to me wasa big one too, very emotional.
And then we have the whole what'sgoing to happen with this castle because for
most of the movie they're kind oflike nobody's staying here. Yeah, and
then we also kind of have themom and the kids coming back together because
there seemed like there was maybe somethinggoing on there too, like they weren't
the closest. So anyway, Ijust feel like there were so many things
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happening that in two hours you couldn'treally get into one or the other.
But a lot of stuff I didlike too, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Okay, my writing might surprise youtoo, because you know that there
was a lot of strikes against thismovie going into it for me and you,
yeah, being that I do notlike Royal movies. Sure, I
also don't like the ones on locationand your destination ones, except for of
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course Love on Safari, which wasfilmed in South Africa. My husband's from
South Africa. Was Lacy in that? Yes, she was in that.
Yeah. And I what sealed itfor me with that location thing was the
Christmas in Vienna one for a fewyears ago when doctor Kepner from Grey's Anatomy
was in it and it just wasn'tgood and she was my favorite on Gray's
Anatomy, so I was very upset. But anyway, so I was like,
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this is going to be awful,I mean, like you know,
awful, and I actually liked it. I I'm also going to give it
three three stars. I liked thebrother sister storyline, I liked Mac,
and I thought Scots are hot andthree stars good movie. Okay, well,
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you know, I think maybe itmight be time to take a little
break. Let's do it. We'llbe back with reef all. Okay,
Kerrie, We're back, We areback. Do you want to start us
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off. Oh yeah, okay.My first note on this movie actually makes
me laugh. It was this moviereminds me that I hate off the shoulder
sweaters. Oh my gosh, Ihad that note that note too. I
don't know why, but like shehas, Lacey's wearing off the shoulder sweater
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at least been doing it a lotthis year. I hate those sweaters.
And I don't know. I like, if you're wearing off the shoulder sweater,
you're either going braw less or you'rewearing a strapless brawl which I don't
know if there's any men listening orpeople who don't wear bras Ie strapless bra
is one of the worst things ever. Yeah, it's just so uncomfortable and
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you're pulling it up and just ohgosh. So I don't know if that's
why I hate the off the shouldersweater, but I do. I was
wondering too, because I've noticed thatin a couple of her movies this year,
and I was like, is thatis it just this year or has
she always been an off shoulder sweatergirl? But I guess maybe it's just
this year. I mean, shepulls it off, she looks fine.
I just hate it. That's great. Yeah, yeah, personal, and
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I would feel very weird wearing it. And I also feel that it's kind
of like you're wearing a sweater becauseit's cold out. Yeah, so you
know your shoulders are probably really cold. Can I do my next one because
it also is about clothing, Yes, okay, Lacy Coke count Oh,
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we saw the size of her luggage. She came out and got her little
mistletoe whatever drink Mike Mistletoe latte,thank you, and she was she had
a carry on side sort really suitcase. Now she could have had a bigger
suitcase that we just didn't see,but probably not. Yeah, any even
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if she did, it doesn't matterbecause I had her at four coats,
oh my wish. I didn't evencount, with a possible fifth one that
I wasn't sure about. So wehave a black belted coat, which was
sort of more of a tailored wintercoat. Uh huh. We have a
red coat, a green coat,and then my favorite, which was this
plaid coat. And then there wasthe possible second plat. I couldn't tell
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if it was the same plaid asthe first one. So four to five
coats, jealous plus Christmas jammy.Oh, I think she bought the Christmas
didn't buy the Christmas jammys. Yeah, but we must always pay attention to
the coat. Count. I'm gladyou did that. Yeah, so what
do you have? Okay, ohokay. My overwhelming thought while I was
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watching this and I was like,you know, hasn't happened yet, but
if I find out that I'm royaltyand perhaps am going to inherit a castle
or something like that, I wouldnot have wanted to be the person out
after Daniel because he literally did everythingin that time. He was like the
most generous person on the face ofthe earth. They were like, oh,
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yeah, he made all the toysfor the kids. Every single Christmas
tradition they have, he either startedor he hosted, or they were like,
yeah, Daniel did that. Danielis I'm like, I cannot live
up to Daniel. I might haveto just forego the title because I will
never live up to this man.He did everything he was He had to
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have been the best duke in thehistory of duke. I didn't really think
of that, but now that you'resaying it, I agree. Yeah,
Yeah, that's a lot to liveup to. Speacame of Daniel. So
when when they Licy and Scott findout something or other at some point,
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maybe it's after the mom tells likeher backstory of leaving Rock and they're like
really not into it, and they'rejust like, why should we stay at
this castle? And the mom goes, let me show you, and then
she takes them to Danny's woodworking studiowhere he made he was basically Santa.
Yeah, but where I feel doesn'treally answer the question of why should we
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stay? Yet no one pushes thequestion that would have made me be like,
I shouldn't stay because I can't liveup to Daniel. I can't do
woodworking like this, not Santa,I mean, and that was a lot
of stuff you did it all year, yeah, which I don't know when
he had time for. But Istill think it's funny. It's why should
we stay at this castle? Like, let me show you Daniel's woodworking case.
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Abe. Wait, I have anotherone that was kind of like that
with Joe. At one point,Joe the mom was talking to Sarah when
Brad and Lindsay were out, andshe was like, you know, I
just want you to know that,like, if you need to talk,
I'm here for you like we cantalk, and then literally like one second
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there she's like, Okay, Igotta go do some state stuff for Daniel.
It was like when Frank Holliday waslike, hey, Lauren, come
up on in the sleigh. Okay, see you later, not to Russia,
but get out. Yeah. Shewas like, Okay, gotta go.
I got a lot of estate stuffto take care of. Yeah,
but I'm really here for you.Yeah. But in another time. Oh,
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that reminds me of some people inmy life. I don't know if
you noticed this. I'm guessing youprobably did. When they went to the
pub, it was named Salinger's Pub, which was their name last name on
Party of Five. Oh I didnot know that part. Yeah, yes,
that was their last name. Andthen they meet the bartender. His
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name is Charlie and that was theoldest brother's name. Oh I think I
did know that part. So ScottWolf was not the oldest brother or was
he? No, he was thesecond oldest. Oh, the oldest was
Matthew Fox from Lost. Yes,yes, yes, I think he's the
one that might have had cancer inthe one episode. Oh yeah maybe.
And then there was a baby andneph Campbell Neeve Campbell nev Yes, yeah,
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so that was all happening. ButI thought that was a cute Another
cute little winky wink that is cute. Yeah. What else did that?
Oh? There was one part.I love this part where Brad's like talking
to Sarah and he's talking about howhe might want to stay and you know,
take the title. He's actually consideringit. And they had established that
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it was a busy time for him. He was a tax attorney yet I
think just started a new job,and he had referred multiple times to like
working fifteen hour days and like justkind of always being on the clock.
And he was like, you know, I might want to stay here because
this this break is from my bosshas been evigorating. I haven't returned one
of his calls the whole time I'mhere. I'm like, well, now
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you kind of have to stay becauseyou're definitely getting fired, because you can
be a lawyer that works fifteen hoursa day and just be like, well
I decided to stop returning your callslike in the middle of my time away.
Loved that. So another occupational anote has to do with the butler.
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I forget what his name was.Yeah, yeah, the one that
was there for fifty years. Yeah, did you think it was weird?
The butler stayed in the room whilethe mom Josephine was reading this like really
important letter from her brother. Likeso yeah, now that you mentioned her
like in the movie, like youknow, she's really trying to like make
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peace with her brother and she knowsthat she let him down because she gave
up her claim to Glenn Crave andthe brother had to take it on.
And then the brother dies and shehad just sent him a letter apologizing and
she hadn't received anything and he died, and so she was like, did
he ever did he even get it? Did he get to read it?
And then they finally toward the end, find that he did read it and
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he wrote her back. And soshe finally has this letter and she's reading
it and the butler's just standing thereand it's not like it's not like Queen
Doctor Quinn with Butler Victor, whereright one they were in love and two
they had been to it. Youknow, they had worked together for so
long. Josephine had been gone,so she was just getting back to this
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butler. I guess then she wouldhave been with him for like twenty years,
so maybe she grew up with him, but still weird. That's weird
y. I feel like butlers don'tdo that. No, only butler Victor
does. Yeah, and also inNo Bride, he's not a butler,
but kind of is, but hethey kind of had a relationship too.
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Anyway, that's neither here nor there. They as in the siblings Lacy and
Scott, when they were young,they made a hot chocolate drink up and
they called it the Dirty rain dear. Mm hmm. So I'm just wondering
what you would name your drink.That's a great question, because I did
have a note about the drink namesin this movie. I think I would
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name mine the Ordery Elf, theornery Elf. Yeah, I like it.
I don't know what would be init, but clearly some kind of
alcohol. What would I name mine? I did put you on the spot.
Yeah, yeah, I feel likeyours would be like the sparkly snow
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yea sparkley snowflake. I don't know. Maybe I'll take Sparkley snowflake since you
didn't, right, fine, mineis also called the Sparkly Bray and only
you get to drink it, exceptit's not actually a sparkly bray. Yeah,
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te Yeah. I liked the drinknames in this movie because we had
the mac Missletoemo, the Bad Santa, the Dirty Reindeer, which was really
just hot chocolate with like cookie crumblesin it. It sounds kind of good.
Yeah, I'm not against it.How'd you feel about all the bagpiping?
Awful? Awful? I was?I mean, it just it's like
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the worst sound. But some peoplelove it. I guess do they or
is it just tradition that they loveI don't know, and that they were
using it? Do you remember?It reminded me of Friends when they switched
the apartments, and I think likeRachel would wake up to that guy singing
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yeah, because it was like theywere waking up every morning to the bagpipes
and I can't imagine a worse soundto wake up too. Yeah, I
mean, even even though the bagpipepipe was playing Christmas music? Yeah,
Bill, not good. I feellike I don't know if this movie was
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a lot of like Scottish ropes orif it was that's how there think some
things are actually like what is atrue Scottish Christmas tradition? Versus I would
guess nobody wakes you up in themorning with bagpipe, real Scottish tradition versus
what do Americans think? Do youreally have to wear a cart and dress
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to the ball for short? Yeah? I don't know. How do you
think Lacy looked at the ball.I loved that like sort of crown thing
that she was wearing in her hairmini tiara. It reminded me of something
Kate Middleton would wear and then everybodywould go crazy over, even Princess Charlotte.
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I didn't love the gown, butof course she looked amazing. She
looked amazing. I would have likedto have seen her hair up. Mmm,
I think, what'll thank you?But overall I'm into it. I
bet she had a different coat also. They probably cut it out. Yeah.
They were like, you're only adutchess, not a princess. We
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have to stop at this coat thing. Yeah, four is enough. Oh
go ahead. No, I wasgoing to say, do you have anything
else? I have a couple morethings. Oh tell me, they're very
small. I really liked Mac andI thought they gave him a really he
always seemed to have the right thingto say or a one liner that was
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pretty good, Like the Scots arehot one. Yeah, but I did
like and I do recognize that thisisn't something that he came up with,
but he was like when they weregoing to the whiskey tasting, and he
was like Mark dwain once said,too much of anything is bad, but
too much whiskey is barely enough.And I actually was like, I would.
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I don't think I could make itthrough judging a whiskey tasting. I
don't actually like the taste of whiskey. I think it strangely make it through
this scene of watching that. Yeah, yeah, I'm like, I don't
know if I could make it there. It was like I just felt my
chest burning watching it. But itdid look fun. Yeah, if that
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was like a wine tasting, i'dbe super into it. Yeah yeah,
but not a whiskey thing. No, there were I mean there was no.
I think it's our first movie we'vewatched, except for of course christmasuner
Raps where the immediate parents. Itseemed that neither of them were dead.
Josephine was alive, and I wouldI wanted to know what was going on
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with the dad. Yes, metoo. I feel like there was a
divorce. There was a divorce sothe mom and dad were, you know,
in their folk rock band. Sodid the band break up and they
got divorced or did they like,you know, what was the order?
Like? What happened there? Yeah? And they kept mentioning Christmas at dad's
and what a disaster it was acouple of years ago. Yeah. What
what happened like is that when thedivorce happened? Is that when the band
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broke up, and it seemed likethe divorce. I don't know, the
divorce must have been a long timebefore because she was like, you were,
oh right right, there were kindof yeah. Now, I do
want to know what happened with thefolk rock yea, with the band,
because you know, I love folkrock and they they were not fans of
it in this movie, weren't.So when did the band break up?
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When did they realize maybe they weren'tgoing to make it big? Because to
leave your life in another country,to leave your royal life in another country,
yeah, to follow this you know, folk rock dream? Was it
her dream or was she just followingsomeone in a band? That's a great
question. I don't know. Ohyeah, I think it was her dream
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too, because they kind of seemedlike they're growing up with folk rock.
Folk rock. Also, you knowBrad and Sarah have an ugly Christmas sweater
party every year. Yeah yeah,at least he stopped showing up too.
Yeah, and that was sorry,that was a big deal. Like Brad's
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really carrying that anger that she stoppedcoming to it? Is that why they
were a strange but they stopped invitingher? Yeah? So again, like
what's the order there? Well itwas then they say she left after the
No, she didn't even stay forthe first toast at their wedding, but
she had her medical school exams orsomething. And then he didn't. But
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it was tax day, but hedoesn't even return his boss's calls. Maybe
this way I had to get anew job. Well he's a duke now,
so yeah, who cared? Luck? Yeah? Anything else yet?
That's all? H me too.Shall we moved to romance? One oh
one? You know what? Ohyou have another? Well it's no,
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you know we need to and weforgot in our last pod to talk about
will they stay together? Oh?Yes, yes and romance one on one?
Let's start. Let's start. Doyou want to start that with romance?
When I want is will they staytogether? Sure? Okay, what
do you think. I mean,mine's pretty easy. I think that Lacey
and the straight teeth Mac will staytogether. I think they will get engaged
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and they'll get married, Okay,and stay together also because their lives are
going to be very intertwined with himworking at the castle and then I'm assuming
she took the job working with hismom who took the clinic in town Brad
and Sarah. I would have saidno, but once they have the baby,
I want them to stay together.I actually thought they would stay together,
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Okay. I thought they were gettingthrough their rough patch. They are
now royalty. It doesn't seem likethey have too much pop Rozzy on them
or anything that's gonna pull them apart. Yeah, let's see Mac and Lindsey.
Yeah, I think they'll stay together, all right. I think I
do. Hope she starts giving theChristmas off, you know, a few
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days a year where he can,Yeah, a few days of PTO RABE
sick day here or there. Butand maybe, I mean, if they
do get married, I think hestays grounds manager. Like he seemed to
like the job. He really seemedto like it. Yeah, did it
give you any Downton Abbey vibes thewhole like this castle runs the city like
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the economics of the whole city.No, it did for me when he
was explaining how they that the way, the way of how the castle does
is like the economy of the town. Yeah. I think I learned that
reading Jane Austen books. Oh okay, like I kind of knew, you
know, that's how that rolled alittle more high brow than me. All
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right, so are we gonna romanceit up? Let's do it? Okay.
A question that I often get withmy books is how do I decide
where to set the books as inthe location? And I thought it was
an interesting question. Actually, youread my books, most of them are
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set or at some point they passthrough somewhere in the Washington DC area,
because I live in the Washington DCarea, and I lived in Arlington for
a long time, and I lovedArlington and it's a fun place to write
about because there's a lot of differentneighborhoods and a lot of kind of unique
things that people can do there.But you're still really close to DC.
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Also, I am lazy, andif I set something in DC, I
know DC really well, so Idon't have to do any research, like
I just know it. That's whyI also will set things in Pittsburgh because
I'm from Pittsburgh. Or my otherway of writing around having to do more
research, which I actually like doingresearch. It's just that I don't have
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a lot of time to do researchright now. So my other workaround is
that I just make up a smalltown. Yeah. Yeah, and when
you make it up, you canput whatever you want in there, like
Glenn Crave. Sure. So that'stypically what I do, and I wonder
if that's why Homework Channel does alot of small towns, then they can
just put whatever they want there.Yeah. Yeah, But I have to
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say that in reading books, Ithink it's really funny reading books that are
set in DC because I'm like,oh my gosh, that's just impossible.
So, for example, I reada series, an FBI series, and
they are often going from the HooverBuilding to Quantico. And for those who
don't know, the Hoover Building,where the FBI is located, is in
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DC. It's in the middle ofDC. Quantaco is down ninety five.
It's a ways away and it isone of the most trafficky roads in the
country. Yeah, and they willdrive from the Hoover Building Quantico in like
fifty ten minutes during rush hour withnormal traffic. That they're not, you
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know, putting sirens on getting downthere teen minutes probably won't even get you
a mile. No, yeah,during rush hour? Are you kidding me?
No, can't break them forever.I also like when they say just
different things in ways they're getting aroundDC and I'm like, no, yeah,
you're really just naming famous parts ofd C just to get that in
there, Like we were going aroundDuPont Circle and I'm like, no,
(40:29):
you aren't. This is like onDays of Our Lives when they were in
d C, you know, huntingdown an international criminal, and there was
it was in a like very highrise building, like New York City type
high rise building with high rise buildingsall around. And I don't know who's
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in charge of research at Days ofOur Lives, but there are no high
rise buildings. I mean, it'san actual law you cannot have high rise
buildings in d C. So thatwas I think they did very minimal research
there. Now I wonder how theychoose to be in Scotland because it was
well, it was filmed in Scotlandand mostly I think Ireland as well.
Yeah, I think that castle wasin Ireland. Yeah, but like I
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wonder how they choose because they doa couple a year or a few year,
yeah, or like destination. Andit's just like I know the way
that I in my head like criticizedlittle things that I'm picking apart. Oh
my gosh. Yeah, it's likein my writing, I don't want people
to read it, and then theyget caught up in that instead of like
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getting into the love story. They'relike, well, well you wouldn't turn
right on that street. So that'swhy I either again make stuff up or
I set things where I know it, where everything is. Yeah. I
wonder if somebody in Scotland's like watchingthis what they think of it. If
it's an American, I roll afterI ye like these it's Americans think we
play bagpipes to wake up in themorning. We played Christmas music bagpipe.
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All we do is drink whiskey everynight. Does look like fun or it
does? I mean I want togo to Scotland now, Oh my gosh.
The shots were so gorgeous when theywere riding from the airport and to
the castle and Lacey, did younotice she was riding backwards and she was
like on her phone and I'm like, I would be so caarcion. I
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thought the same thing. But atthe same time, it was gorgeous the
actual shots, the real shots outsideof the green and all that, Like,
Wow, I need to go there. Yeah, I really want to
go to Scotland. Me too.Yeah. I think we say that about
pretty much everyplace, including all themade up ones. Yeah, yeah,
no, but it was a goodmovie. I have a question for our
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listeners. You know, it wasa big thing about Lacy getting everyone Christmas
jammys matching Christmas jammis. So doyou out there do that with your family?
Do you have matching jammys. Ifyou do or if you don't,
you want to talk about it,please visit us at our socials Homewark Junkies
(43:00):
on Instagram and or Facebook. Letus know. I will say that this
year, my hobby and I wehave some matching jammys, and then the
kids have matching jammys, but we'renot all matching, right yeah, and
Harry will be wearing a bandana thatmatches my jammys naturally. Well yeah,
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yeah, I do not have anymatching jammys. But my kids do with
like kid ones, not with I. I get caught up in the I
think it's well, no, I'mnot gonna I'm not gonna say anything negative,
but I get caught up with withlike we really need like new pajamas
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every year, though I do likepictures of it. You do you need
Christmas jammys even if they don't match. Notice speaking of the jammys, that
they had a lot of like familypictures up that they would show and Glen
Grave and they were I love thatthey were all kind of like awkward family
pictures. Yeah. You know,I've actually noticed in a few movies this
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year where it's always like not agood family picture, but one that you
would look at and laugh. AndI really appreciate that they're doing that.
Yeah, yeah, hit chob homework. Yeah. Well I think we covered
a merry Scottish Christmas. Yeah wedid, and back soon with more.
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Okay, I think that's it.This is Jenny saying cheers, and this
is Carrie saying we'll see Yann's nexttime. Merry Christmas.
Hi. I'm Jenny. Hi,I'm Carrie. We're best friends and new
moms. We're also the ogs ofHallmark Christmas Movies. That's right. We've
been watching these movies since long beforethey became a Christmas juggernaut. And now
we're here to talk all things Hallmarkwith you because we know you're watching too.
Sit back, relax, and getyour Hallmark on. We are the
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Hallmark Junkies. Ho ho ho.The Hallmark Junkies are back and we are
(00:44):
super excited today. And by excited, I mean possibly incoherent. That's what
happens when you have a two yearold and a baby, which Jenny and
I both happened to have. Though, I'm Carrie and I'm Jenny, and
Jenny has been up since about fourthirty am and my son has his first
(01:06):
cold and has not slept in thirtysix hours. So this is gonna be
a fun, pod fabulous weekend.Yeah, it's been great. Also,
it's really late at night, orat least late at night for us.
So yeah, we just hope wemake sense because we have a really great
movie that we were really excited about. Also, our producer, Harry aka
my Dog is not with us.Today because he's sleeping somewhere else right now.
(01:30):
At least he's sleeping. Yeah,at least he was sleeping. Yeah,
he would be sleeping. Yes.So, Jenny, what movie are
we talking about today? We aretalking about the twenty twenty three movie bringing
Back Party of Five Siblings A MerryScottish Christmas. And you know that really
was the big deal with this movieis that Lacy Sver and Scott Wolf,
(01:55):
who played siblings on Party of Fivein the nineties, reunited this movie.
And at first we were all like, oh, are they love interesting?
Yeah, that was breaking me out, going to be super creepy. But
no, they're playing siblings again.They very sweet. Yeah, it is
sweet, and I was excited aboutit. I want to see more like
reunions, Like we could have hada DJ Tanner Stephanie Judith Tanner reunion,
(02:19):
except we can't because CCB left usfor that other channel. But whatever,
did you watch Party of Five?I watched I think two episodes in my
whole life. Oh, one ofthe people had cancer, I think,
and he was drinking this drink Iremember that in the hospital and Lacy cried.
Wow. I also think I watchedtwo episodes one they were doing a
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what's that called an intervention supple becauseI guess he became an alcoholic at some
point. And another one I don'treally remember, but I know I've watched
at least two. Yeah, Ithink too. That's fine. I tried
to get into it because I thoughtit was pretty cool. But yeah,
yeah, but there it is.So should we just jump right into it
(03:09):
before we both fall asleep? Let'sjump right in? Okay, Okay,
We're going to start out with PictureIt, named after our favorite golden girl,
Sofia and how she started all herstories. All right, Picture It,
Glen Crave, Scotland, twenty twentythree. I should say it's a
made up town in Scotland. Ilooked it up. Glenday and Scott Morgan,
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siblings in Workaholics, are spending thisChristmas in Glen Crave, Scotland.
You see, their mom, Joe, who grew up in Scotland, has
asked them very last minute to come, which is raising their eyebrows considering their
last family vacation was in a yurtin the desert, and that's when their
mom told them they were moving toSanta Cruz, California so she could teach.
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It turns out they aren't just spendingChristmas in glen Crave. They are
spending Christmas in a seven hundred yearyear old castle in Glenn Crave, which
is a shock to both of them, Lindsay, who is a doctor running
a clinic in la and Scott,who is attacks attorney from San Francisco.
You mean, Brad, Oh,I'm sorry, Yes, Brad, Scott.
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It's okay because I will be callingLacey Lacy, Brad, good job.
Yeah, thank you for catching that, Carrie. Do you think they
wonder about the cost of a lastminute Christmas in Scotland with lights and like
a car picking you up and stayingin a castle. Clearly they do not.
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No, they just get off theplane and get their eggnog latte and
Nick missile to latte. I believeit was. Yeah. I mean they
both have I guess, good jobsand make good money and didn't have to
take out loans to get those goodjobs. So they're they're That's that's my
assumption. No, I thought themom was paying for it. Oh,
(04:56):
but I was still I was like, why aren't they questioning where the mom's
getting this smut? If she's likeyou know, I just teach him.
They were doing well. But yeah, it could be their mom paying for
it. Yeah, maybe she madeit big in folk rock. Maybe.
So Lindsay and Brad not Scott,noticed that their mom is heading to the
private quarters, which is the fourthfloor of the castle. So later they
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sneak up and they go through herstuff and they find out, surprise,
their mom is actually a duchess inGlen Crave, believe it or not.
So we have the royalty in amade up this time town storyline, which
you know we have that per year. So Lindsay and Brad they're pretty pissed
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about that, and they immediately confronttheir mom and she confesses that she ran
away from the royal life at twentyto follow some silly American and pursue her
career in folk rock. We don'tknow how that career ended. Perhaps that's
why she got her money. Hermom had them had really long hair.
Well that's what you have when you'rein folk rock. I mean, did
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you notice the hair when they didthe flashback? I actually didn't, And
you know I don't like flashbacks,so maybe that's why I didn't. I
probably like turned it away. No, not at all, oh my gosh,
what about in books? I probablyhandle them better in books like in
a movie. Yeah, I hope. So I put them in books a
lot. So her mom, Joepursued left us, you know, the
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royal life to pursue her career infolk rock, and she actually just hid
that entire side of her family fromher kids that she later had because she
wanted them to have a quote normallife. But now her brother Daniel,
who was the duke and ran GlenCrave, he died from a heart attack.
So she's basically now inherited this castle. She has this title. Her
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kids can be duke and duchess ifthey want. It's kind of just,
you know, it's trouble. SoLindsay she's like, like, you know
what, I just found out I'ma duchess. I'm mad at my mom
not getting along with my brother.We find out they you know, kind
of have a pass e side noteis also not getting along with his wife
Sarah, And so Lindsay's like,Okay, I'm going to book a flight
(07:15):
out of here. Yeah, becausewhat a crappy Christmas right now? Yes,
it's not going well, but youknow what, it gets a little
bit better because she runs into thehot property manager Mac Bell, and she
actually ran into him the night beforetoo, But he decides, you know
what, somebody here needs to goin a horse drawn carriage. She agrees
to go on a carriage ride andsee the crowns and he chops down a
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tree for Glenn Crave, which issuper hot. He plants a new one
and she's like, you know what, maybe I'm not going to leave after
all. Two things, Yeah,Number one, this is an actual note.
I have. Max's teeth are reallystraight. I don't know if you
notice that. I did not notice. He has great teeth. Veneers are
just straight. It can't be natural. I mean, I just can't.
(08:01):
I don't know, but it's worthanother look. Okay. Also, they
said that in the castle Glen Cravethey have thirty Christmas trees, which made
me think are these Balsam Hills?Because if they're Balsom Hill trees, that
would be a total of sixty thousanddollars at a minimum, and probably more.
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And I now know this because youknow, I'm obsessed with Balsam Hill,
even though I cannot even afford likethe tree hooks to put the ornaments
on Balsam Hill. My mom cheaterPants McGee, as we like to call
her, she somehow gets a BalsamHill catalog and over Thanksgiving we were going
through it pricing it out. OhI think they were thirty real trees.
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That's how I took it. Well, I hope so, because all the
money from this place will go towardthe Balsam Hill tree. Anyway, they
might lose the castle. Yeah,that's interesting they had thirty trees because at
some point I think they said theyhad twenty two rooms or twenty two bedrooms
or something like that. Thirty bathrooms. Yeah, yeah, And I was
like, you know what, thisis the stuff down for Lacey because when
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she was in Cordinia and she wasyou know, ended up marrying the prince
from there, they had like threehundred rooms. Oh yeah, so she's
really kind of like she was inthe Gold Round on her luck well because
she was marrying a prince. Now, this movie is just duke and duchess,
so I'm assuming that's below prince andprincess. It is far below apparently.
(09:31):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, onlythirty bathrooms. Come on, yeah,
I don't know how they get bywith only thirty So it turns out
that it's a good decision that Lindsaydecides to stay in glenn Crave because it
is the best Christmas town in Scotlandever. Yeah, Lindsay and her family,
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they go to the Christmas Market,which has dancing at it. They
do dancing at the Christmas Market.They go to many happy hours, a
lot of happy hours, a lotof happy hours. They drink bad Santas,
and the bad Santas allow Brad toopen up to Lindsay about the marriage
troubles that he's having, which arerelated to struggling to conceive, going through
(10:13):
IVF, things like that. Kindof a real moment in the movie.
Yeah. They also get to judgea whiskey competition and we got a whiskey
tasting montage which was amazing. Yeahwe' I don't think we've ever had a
whiskey I would assume it's the firstever whiskey tasting montage, but I like
it. Yeah. Yeah, theywent to a local Christmas party and we
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got some traditional Scottish dancing and acameo from Will Kemp, who was her
love in the Christmas Walts. Ohmy god. So I have a note
about this too because she looks athim and she's like, do I know
you? I know? Yeah,I love it? And I was like
what the heck I was because Ididn't recognize him. So I was like
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what is this? God be anotherplot, like is there another person?
Like what is happening? And thenI read that they've actually been in three
other Hallmark movies. Yeah, Ithink The Dancing Detective, which is a
fabulous name. Yeah, I haven'tseen it, but I did like that
name. And then was do youknow what the other one is? No?
I don't think it was a Christmasone though, I don't know.
Oh, but I saw that ChristmasWaltz one. And so also when she
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goes because he has her come upand dance with him, and she puts
her arms up to like can danceyeah, and he's like no no,
She's like, I only know howto waltz and tango. That was nice.
That was a nice nod to them. Yeah. Yeah, I like
these little Hallmark Easter eggs they've beendropping this year and the yeah, yeah,
that's fun. So all these festiveactivities not only make this the best
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town in Scotland for Christmas, butthey're drawing Lindsay and Mac the property manager
closer and closer. They're also bringingBrad and Lindsay back together, and it
seems that it's starting to heal thewounds that made them drift apart for so
many years. We see that brothersister bond coming back together, and even
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Brad and Sarah seem to be doingbetter. So, I mean, apparently
this town is just magical. Andwe have not even made it to the
Winter Solstice Festival, which is likethe big thing that we've been talking about.
The whole movie is like this WinterSoul successiful And can I tell you
that every time they had a happyhour, which was like every other scene,
I'm like, oh, we madeit to the Solstice Festival. It's
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still not it really? Oh,I guess it's not so the Soulstice Festival.
As if all of this hasn't beenamazing. At the Solstice Festival,
they have Shetland Ponies, they havelike a big huge bonfire, they have
Santa, and they have Mac thehot ground manager and the straight teeth with
very straight teeth, and Mac andLindsay kiss after the Soul Sus Festival.
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I mean, it has it allreally, Yeah, yeah, it really
does. I mean, this isamazing and it's so magical that Brad and
Sarah say, you know what,I think we're gonna stay here. We're
going to take the titles and we'regoing to become Duke and Duchess and forget
about our life back home. AndLindsay gets very upset about this. Yeah,
like she said, you didn't eventell me that you were going to
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stay. You didn't include me inyour conversations. I wasn't quite sure why
she was so angry, right,and I'm going to comment more on that,
okay, coming up. But shegets over it pretty quick, Yeah,
she sure does. Yeah, Andso she makes it to what I
think is the final Glen Crave eventbefore Christmas, which is the Glen Crave
Christmas eve Ball. And I knowyou would have an issue with that ball,
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but I thought it was okay becausethey're clearly not Italian, they're not
in Scotland. Yeah, I don'treally know what Scottish Christmas traditions are.
Well, we saw like every singleone in this movie, assuming it was
guessing a lot of drinking. Yeah, it seemed amazing. Yeah, which
was cool. And they had thatcomment toward the beginning, right about how
it was illegal to celebrate Christmas,and it's true. I looked at it.
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Yeah, we'll actually illegal to celebrateChristmas in Scotland until nineteen fifty eight,
and not just sort of illegal.It was like people started to celebrate
again, but you still wouldn't seeit in public until after it. Truly,
I think in like the eighteen hundredspeople started to celebrate again, but
like it was nineteen fifty eight whenpeople like truly started celebrating. According to
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the one source I read it onwhich I really hope is you know,
yeah, incredibly was it Wikipedia?Okay, we made it past the Christmas
eve ball and the next day isobviously Christmas, and it's amazing because Lindsay
gives everyone matching Christmas Chammis. Everyone'shappy again. Lindsay's gotten over her anger
(14:48):
towards Brad and Sarah, and shetakes Jammys over to Mac, who did
not get the day off. Apparentlyhe's working families back together. But Lindsay's
still like, you know what,I think I'm going back to la I
need to go back to my clinicthere. I'm a doctor there, even
though I don't really like my job. Yeah, and she was very clear
(15:09):
that she didn't like her job,and there was a clinic right there in
Glenn Cray that she could not.Anyway, we get this scene where she
drives the way to again she's beingdriven. Let's be real, they have
money, And I honestly, Carrie, that was the worst song I have
ever heard in a Hallmark movie whenshe was driving away. No, no,
(15:33):
yeah, that song. No,that is a Michael Boublez song.
He's not singing it. It's sobad. You know, I love Michael
Boublez like passionately. I have seenhim twice in concert, like he's amazing,
but it's a different version. Wassinging it? Not good? It's
amazing, called home it almost italmost made me not like the movie.
(15:56):
That's how. But anyway, doyou know that I really thought she was
gonna leave, Like I was like, oh really, Yeah, they're doing
a twist this year. Well,well they did kind of draw it out
with that song. Yeah, andyour favorite song I May Get You now
added to a stork beret and I'mgetting you that song and as many versions
as I can find, please pleasedo well, you know what, I'll
(16:18):
take any version except for the onethat was in that movie, it would
be better, So they really drawit out. They play the bad music
and then Lindsay's like, turn thecar around and she goes back and she's
like, you know what, I'mgonna stay here. I'm going to be
a duchess. Use me, Macthe ground manager, do you want a
girlfriend that's a duchess? Because guesswhat, Scott's are hot? And he's
(16:41):
like, yes, I do.And then we get a one year later
epilogue, Love an Apple Again.They have the matching Christmas jammies. Love
It. Sarah and Brad have ababy. Yeah, Mac and Lindsay are
still together and they are living inthe magical made up town of in Christ,
Scotland. Wow. What a movie. Yeah, what a recap.
(17:10):
He did a great job. Well, thank you. Yeah we should we
see cb it. Let's do it. What do you think? One to
five CCBs? Okay you might besurprised, Okay, I because I did
like this movie. I'm giving itthree are you CCBs? I didn't dislike
this movie. It just sort ofwas flat for me, like very surface
(17:34):
level, as in, I thinkthere were so many storylines that they couldn't
really ever dive deep into any ofthem. So it felt very like it's
very surface level. So we havethe estrange siblings, but why were they
estrange? Like what was going onthere? Yeah, it seemed like they
just drifted apart. It was weirdfor him to be that estranged, right,
(17:56):
And then we have like Lacy's roamingon with Mac the Straight Teeth house
keeper. Then we have Brad andSarah's marriage slash infertility issues, which that's
a huge one. And then wehave the mom and dead brother sort of
like the mom wanting to reconnect buthe dies and then she just has this
(18:18):
guilt and like that to me wasa big one too, very emotional.
And then we have the whole what'sgoing to happen with this castle because for
most of the movie they're kind oflike nobody's staying here. Yeah, and
then we also kind of have themom and the kids coming back together because
there seemed like there was maybe somethinggoing on there too, like they weren't
the closest. So anyway, Ijust feel like there were so many things
(18:40):
happening that in two hours you couldn'treally get into one or the other.
But a lot of stuff I didlike too, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Okay, my writing might surprise youtoo, because you know that there
was a lot of strikes against thismovie going into it for me and you,
yeah, being that I do notlike Royal movies. Sure, I
also don't like the ones on locationand your destination ones, except for of
(19:07):
course Love on Safari, which wasfilmed in South Africa. My husband's from
South Africa. Was Lacy in that? Yes, she was in that.
Yeah. And I what sealed itfor me with that location thing was the
Christmas in Vienna one for a fewyears ago when doctor Kepner from Grey's Anatomy
was in it and it just wasn'tgood and she was my favorite on Gray's
Anatomy, so I was very upset. But anyway, so I was like,
(19:30):
this is going to be awful,I mean, like you know,
awful, and I actually liked it. I I'm also going to give it
three three stars. I liked thebrother sister storyline, I liked Mac,
and I thought Scots are hot andthree stars good movie. Okay, well,
(19:51):
you know, I think maybe itmight be time to take a little
break. Let's do it. We'llbe back with reef all. Okay,
Kerrie, We're back, We areback. Do you want to start us
(20:12):
off. Oh yeah, okay.My first note on this movie actually makes
me laugh. It was this moviereminds me that I hate off the shoulder
sweaters. Oh my gosh, Ihad that note that note too. I
don't know why, but like shehas, Lacey's wearing off the shoulder sweater
(20:32):
at least been doing it a lotthis year. I hate those sweaters.
And I don't know. I like, if you're wearing off the shoulder sweater,
you're either going braw less or you'rewearing a strapless brawl which I don't
know if there's any men listening orpeople who don't wear bras Ie strapless bra
is one of the worst things ever. Yeah, it's just so uncomfortable and
(20:56):
you're pulling it up and just ohgosh. So I don't know if that's
why I hate the off the shouldersweater, but I do. I was
wondering too, because I've noticed thatin a couple of her movies this year,
and I was like, is thatis it just this year or has
she always been an off shoulder sweatergirl? But I guess maybe it's just
this year. I mean, shepulls it off, she looks fine.
I just hate it. That's great. Yeah, yeah, personal, and
(21:18):
I would feel very weird wearing it. And I also feel that it's kind
of like you're wearing a sweater becauseit's cold out. Yeah, so you
know your shoulders are probably really cold. Can I do my next one because
it also is about clothing, Yes, okay, Lacy Coke count Oh,
(21:38):
we saw the size of her luggage. She came out and got her little
mistletoe whatever drink Mike Mistletoe latte,thank you, and she was she had
a carry on side sort really suitcase. Now she could have had a bigger
suitcase that we just didn't see,but probably not. Yeah, any even
(22:00):
if she did, it doesn't matterbecause I had her at four coats,
oh my wish. I didn't evencount, with a possible fifth one that
I wasn't sure about. So wehave a black belted coat, which was
sort of more of a tailored wintercoat. Uh huh. We have a
red coat, a green coat,and then my favorite, which was this
plaid coat. And then there wasthe possible second plat. I couldn't tell
(22:22):
if it was the same plaid asthe first one. So four to five
coats, jealous plus Christmas jammy.Oh, I think she bought the Christmas
didn't buy the Christmas jammys. Yeah, but we must always pay attention to
the coat. Count. I'm gladyou did that. Yeah, so what
do you have? Okay, ohokay. My overwhelming thought while I was
(22:47):
watching this and I was like,you know, hasn't happened yet, but
if I find out that I'm royaltyand perhaps am going to inherit a castle
or something like that, I wouldnot have wanted to be the person out
after Daniel because he literally did everythingin that time. He was like the
most generous person on the face ofthe earth. They were like, oh,
(23:10):
yeah, he made all the toysfor the kids. Every single Christmas
tradition they have, he either startedor he hosted, or they were like,
yeah, Daniel did that. Danielis I'm like, I cannot live
up to Daniel. I might haveto just forego the title because I will
never live up to this man.He did everything he was He had to
(23:32):
have been the best duke in thehistory of duke. I didn't really think
of that, but now that you'resaying it, I agree. Yeah,
Yeah, that's a lot to liveup to. Speacame of Daniel. So
when when they Licy and Scott findout something or other at some point,
(23:52):
maybe it's after the mom tells likeher backstory of leaving Rock and they're like
really not into it, and they'rejust like, why should we stay at
this castle? And the mom goes, let me show you, and then
she takes them to Danny's woodworking studiowhere he made he was basically Santa.
Yeah, but where I feel doesn'treally answer the question of why should we
(24:15):
stay? Yet no one pushes thequestion that would have made me be like,
I shouldn't stay because I can't liveup to Daniel. I can't do
woodworking like this, not Santa,I mean, and that was a lot
of stuff you did it all year, yeah, which I don't know when
he had time for. But Istill think it's funny. It's why should
we stay at this castle? Like, let me show you Daniel's woodworking case.
(24:40):
Abe. Wait, I have anotherone that was kind of like that
with Joe. At one point,Joe the mom was talking to Sarah when
Brad and Lindsay were out, andshe was like, you know, I
just want you to know that,like, if you need to talk,
I'm here for you like we cantalk, and then literally like one second
(25:03):
there she's like, Okay, Igotta go do some state stuff for Daniel.
It was like when Frank Holliday waslike, hey, Lauren, come
up on in the sleigh. Okay, see you later, not to Russia,
but get out. Yeah. Shewas like, Okay, gotta go.
I got a lot of estate stuffto take care of. Yeah,
but I'm really here for you.Yeah. But in another time. Oh,
(25:25):
that reminds me of some people inmy life. I don't know if
you noticed this. I'm guessing youprobably did. When they went to the
pub, it was named Salinger's Pub, which was their name last name on
Party of Five. Oh I didnot know that part. Yeah, yes,
that was their last name. Andthen they meet the bartender. His
(25:45):
name is Charlie and that was theoldest brother's name. Oh I think I
did know that part. So ScottWolf was not the oldest brother or was
he? No, he was thesecond oldest. Oh, the oldest was
Matthew Fox from Lost. Yes,yes, yes, I think he's the
one that might have had cancer inthe one episode. Oh yeah maybe.
And then there was a baby andneph Campbell Neeve Campbell nev Yes, yeah,
(26:10):
so that was all happening. ButI thought that was a cute Another
cute little winky wink that is cute. Yeah. What else did that?
Oh? There was one part.I love this part where Brad's like talking
to Sarah and he's talking about howhe might want to stay and you know,
take the title. He's actually consideringit. And they had established that
(26:33):
it was a busy time for him. He was a tax attorney yet I
think just started a new job,and he had referred multiple times to like
working fifteen hour days and like justkind of always being on the clock.
And he was like, you know, I might want to stay here because
this this break is from my bosshas been evigorating. I haven't returned one
of his calls the whole time I'mhere. I'm like, well, now
(26:53):
you kind of have to stay becauseyou're definitely getting fired, because you can
be a lawyer that works fifteen hoursa day and just be like, well
I decided to stop returning your callslike in the middle of my time away.
Loved that. So another occupational anote has to do with the butler.
(27:18):
I forget what his name was.Yeah, yeah, the one that
was there for fifty years. Yeah, did you think it was weird?
The butler stayed in the room whilethe mom Josephine was reading this like really
important letter from her brother. Likeso yeah, now that you mentioned her
like in the movie, like youknow, she's really trying to like make
(27:40):
peace with her brother and she knowsthat she let him down because she gave
up her claim to Glenn Crave andthe brother had to take it on.
And then the brother dies and shehad just sent him a letter apologizing and
she hadn't received anything and he died, and so she was like, did
he ever did he even get it? Did he get to read it?
And then they finally toward the end, find that he did read it and
(28:04):
he wrote her back. And soshe finally has this letter and she's reading
it and the butler's just standing thereand it's not like it's not like Queen
Doctor Quinn with Butler Victor, whereright one they were in love and two
they had been to it. Youknow, they had worked together for so
long. Josephine had been gone,so she was just getting back to this
(28:26):
butler. I guess then she wouldhave been with him for like twenty years,
so maybe she grew up with him, but still weird. That's weird
y. I feel like butlers don'tdo that. No, only butler Victor
does. Yeah, and also inNo Bride, he's not a butler,
but kind of is, but hethey kind of had a relationship too.
(28:47):
Anyway, that's neither here nor there. They as in the siblings Lacy and
Scott, when they were young,they made a hot chocolate drink up and
they called it the Dirty rain dear. Mm hmm. So I'm just wondering
what you would name your drink.That's a great question, because I did
have a note about the drink namesin this movie. I think I would
(29:11):
name mine the Ordery Elf, theornery Elf. Yeah, I like it.
I don't know what would be init, but clearly some kind of
alcohol. What would I name mine? I did put you on the spot.
Yeah, yeah, I feel likeyours would be like the sparkly snow
(29:34):
yea sparkley snowflake. I don't know. Maybe I'll take Sparkley snowflake since you
didn't, right, fine, mineis also called the Sparkly Bray and only
you get to drink it, exceptit's not actually a sparkly bray. Yeah,
(29:55):
te Yeah. I liked the drinknames in this movie because we had
the mac Missletoemo, the Bad Santa, the Dirty Reindeer, which was really
just hot chocolate with like cookie crumblesin it. It sounds kind of good.
Yeah, I'm not against it.How'd you feel about all the bagpiping?
Awful? Awful? I was?I mean, it just it's like
(30:21):
the worst sound. But some peoplelove it. I guess do they or
is it just tradition that they loveI don't know, and that they were
using it? Do you remember?It reminded me of Friends when they switched
the apartments, and I think likeRachel would wake up to that guy singing
(30:41):
yeah, because it was like theywere waking up every morning to the bagpipes
and I can't imagine a worse soundto wake up too. Yeah, I
mean, even even though the bagpipepipe was playing Christmas music? Yeah,
Bill, not good. I feellike I don't know if this movie was
(31:02):
a lot of like Scottish ropes orif it was that's how there think some
things are actually like what is atrue Scottish Christmas tradition? Versus I would
guess nobody wakes you up in themorning with bagpipe, real Scottish tradition versus
what do Americans think? Do youreally have to wear a cart and dress
(31:26):
to the ball for short? Yeah? I don't know. How do you
think Lacy looked at the ball.I loved that like sort of crown thing
that she was wearing in her hairmini tiara. It reminded me of something
Kate Middleton would wear and then everybodywould go crazy over, even Princess Charlotte.
(31:47):
I didn't love the gown, butof course she looked amazing. She
looked amazing. I would have likedto have seen her hair up. Mmm,
I think, what'll thank you?But overall I'm into it. I
bet she had a different coat also. They probably cut it out. Yeah.
They were like, you're only adutchess, not a princess. We
(32:07):
have to stop at this coat thing. Yeah, four is enough. Oh
go ahead. No, I wasgoing to say, do you have anything
else? I have a couple morethings. Oh tell me, they're very
small. I really liked Mac andI thought they gave him a really he
always seemed to have the right thingto say or a one liner that was
(32:28):
pretty good, Like the Scots arehot one. Yeah, but I did
like and I do recognize that thisisn't something that he came up with,
but he was like when they weregoing to the whiskey tasting, and he
was like Mark dwain once said,too much of anything is bad, but
too much whiskey is barely enough.And I actually was like, I would.
(32:49):
I don't think I could make itthrough judging a whiskey tasting. I
don't actually like the taste of whiskey. I think it strangely make it through
this scene of watching that. Yeah, yeah, I'm like, I don't
know if I could make it there. It was like I just felt my
chest burning watching it. But itdid look fun. Yeah, if that
(33:10):
was like a wine tasting, i'dbe super into it. Yeah yeah,
but not a whiskey thing. No, there were I mean there was no.
I think it's our first movie we'vewatched, except for of course christmasuner
Raps where the immediate parents. Itseemed that neither of them were dead.
Josephine was alive, and I wouldI wanted to know what was going on
(33:34):
with the dad. Yes, metoo. I feel like there was a
divorce. There was a divorce sothe mom and dad were, you know,
in their folk rock band. Sodid the band break up and they
got divorced or did they like,you know, what was the order?
Like? What happened there? Yeah? And they kept mentioning Christmas at dad's
and what a disaster it was acouple of years ago. Yeah. What
what happened like is that when thedivorce happened? Is that when the band
(33:58):
broke up, and it seemed likethe divorce. I don't know, the
divorce must have been a long timebefore because she was like, you were,
oh right right, there were kindof yeah. Now, I do
want to know what happened with thefolk rock yea, with the band,
because you know, I love folkrock and they they were not fans of
it in this movie, weren't.So when did the band break up?
(34:21):
When did they realize maybe they weren'tgoing to make it big? Because to
leave your life in another country,to leave your royal life in another country,
yeah, to follow this you know, folk rock dream? Was it
her dream or was she just followingsomeone in a band? That's a great
question. I don't know. Ohyeah, I think it was her dream
(34:43):
too, because they kind of seemedlike they're growing up with folk rock.
Folk rock. Also, you knowBrad and Sarah have an ugly Christmas sweater
party every year. Yeah yeah,at least he stopped showing up too.
Yeah, and that was sorry,that was a big deal. Like Brad's
(35:06):
really carrying that anger that she stoppedcoming to it? Is that why they
were a strange but they stopped invitingher? Yeah? So again, like
what's the order there? Well itwas then they say she left after the
No, she didn't even stay forthe first toast at their wedding, but
she had her medical school exams orsomething. And then he didn't. But
(35:27):
it was tax day, but hedoesn't even return his boss's calls. Maybe
this way I had to get anew job. Well he's a duke now,
so yeah, who cared? Luck? Yeah? Anything else yet?
That's all? H me too.Shall we moved to romance? One oh
one? You know what? Ohyou have another? Well it's no,
(35:52):
you know we need to and weforgot in our last pod to talk about
will they stay together? Oh?Yes, yes and romance one on one?
Let's start. Let's start. Doyou want to start that with romance?
When I want is will they staytogether? Sure? Okay, what
do you think. I mean,mine's pretty easy. I think that Lacey
and the straight teeth Mac will staytogether. I think they will get engaged
(36:15):
and they'll get married, Okay,and stay together also because their lives are
going to be very intertwined with himworking at the castle and then I'm assuming
she took the job working with hismom who took the clinic in town Brad
and Sarah. I would have saidno, but once they have the baby,
I want them to stay together.I actually thought they would stay together,
(36:38):
Okay. I thought they were gettingthrough their rough patch. They are
now royalty. It doesn't seem likethey have too much pop Rozzy on them
or anything that's gonna pull them apart. Yeah, let's see Mac and Lindsey.
Yeah, I think they'll stay together, all right. I think I
do. Hope she starts giving theChristmas off, you know, a few
(37:00):
days a year where he can,Yeah, a few days of PTO RABE
sick day here or there. Butand maybe, I mean, if they
do get married, I think hestays grounds manager. Like he seemed to
like the job. He really seemedto like it. Yeah, did it
give you any Downton Abbey vibes thewhole like this castle runs the city like
(37:21):
the economics of the whole city.No, it did for me when he
was explaining how they that the way, the way of how the castle does
is like the economy of the town. Yeah. I think I learned that
reading Jane Austen books. Oh okay, like I kind of knew, you
know, that's how that rolled alittle more high brow than me. All
(37:47):
right, so are we gonna romanceit up? Let's do it? Okay.
A question that I often get withmy books is how do I decide
where to set the books as inthe location? And I thought it was
an interesting question. Actually, youread my books, most of them are
(38:12):
set or at some point they passthrough somewhere in the Washington DC area,
because I live in the Washington DCarea, and I lived in Arlington for
a long time, and I lovedArlington and it's a fun place to write
about because there's a lot of differentneighborhoods and a lot of kind of unique
things that people can do there.But you're still really close to DC.
(38:37):
Also, I am lazy, andif I set something in DC, I
know DC really well, so Idon't have to do any research, like
I just know it. That's whyI also will set things in Pittsburgh because
I'm from Pittsburgh. Or my otherway of writing around having to do more
research, which I actually like doingresearch. It's just that I don't have
(38:58):
a lot of time to do researchright now. So my other workaround is
that I just make up a smalltown. Yeah. Yeah, and when
you make it up, you canput whatever you want in there, like
Glenn Crave. Sure. So that'stypically what I do, and I wonder
if that's why Homework Channel does alot of small towns, then they can
just put whatever they want there.Yeah. Yeah, But I have to
(39:21):
say that in reading books, Ithink it's really funny reading books that are
set in DC because I'm like,oh my gosh, that's just impossible.
So, for example, I reada series, an FBI series, and
they are often going from the HooverBuilding to Quantico. And for those who
don't know, the Hoover Building,where the FBI is located, is in
(39:44):
DC. It's in the middle ofDC. Quantaco is down ninety five.
It's a ways away and it isone of the most trafficky roads in the
country. Yeah, and they willdrive from the Hoover Building Quantico in like
fifty ten minutes during rush hour withnormal traffic. That they're not, you
(40:04):
know, putting sirens on getting downthere teen minutes probably won't even get you
a mile. No, yeah,during rush hour? Are you kidding me?
No, can't break them forever.I also like when they say just
different things in ways they're getting aroundDC and I'm like, no, yeah,
you're really just naming famous parts ofd C just to get that in
there, Like we were going aroundDuPont Circle and I'm like, no,
(40:29):
you aren't. This is like onDays of Our Lives when they were in
d C, you know, huntingdown an international criminal, and there was
it was in a like very highrise building, like New York City type
high rise building with high rise buildingsall around. And I don't know who's
(40:49):
in charge of research at Days ofOur Lives, but there are no high
rise buildings. I mean, it'san actual law you cannot have high rise
buildings in d C. So thatwas I think they did very minimal research
there. Now I wonder how theychoose to be in Scotland because it was
well, it was filmed in Scotlandand mostly I think Ireland as well.
Yeah, I think that castle wasin Ireland. Yeah, but like I
(41:10):
wonder how they choose because they doa couple a year or a few year,
yeah, or like destination. Andit's just like I know the way
that I in my head like criticizedlittle things that I'm picking apart. Oh
my gosh. Yeah, it's likein my writing, I don't want people
to read it, and then theyget caught up in that instead of like
(41:30):
getting into the love story. They'relike, well, well you wouldn't turn
right on that street. So that'swhy I either again make stuff up or
I set things where I know it, where everything is. Yeah. I
wonder if somebody in Scotland's like watchingthis what they think of it. If
it's an American, I roll afterI ye like these it's Americans think we
play bagpipes to wake up in themorning. We played Christmas music bagpipe.
(41:54):
All we do is drink whiskey everynight. Does look like fun or it
does? I mean I want togo to Scotland now, Oh my gosh.
The shots were so gorgeous when theywere riding from the airport and to
the castle and Lacey, did younotice she was riding backwards and she was
like on her phone and I'm like, I would be so caarcion. I
(42:15):
thought the same thing. But atthe same time, it was gorgeous the
actual shots, the real shots outsideof the green and all that, Like,
Wow, I need to go there. Yeah, I really want to
go to Scotland. Me too.Yeah. I think we say that about
pretty much everyplace, including all themade up ones. Yeah, yeah,
no, but it was a goodmovie. I have a question for our
(42:38):
listeners. You know, it wasa big thing about Lacy getting everyone Christmas
jammys matching Christmas jammis. So doyou out there do that with your family?
Do you have matching jammys. Ifyou do or if you don't,
you want to talk about it,please visit us at our socials Homewark Junkies
(43:00):
on Instagram and or Facebook. Letus know. I will say that this
year, my hobby and I wehave some matching jammys, and then the
kids have matching jammys, but we'renot all matching, right yeah, and
Harry will be wearing a bandana thatmatches my jammys naturally. Well yeah,
(43:20):
yeah, I do not have anymatching jammys. But my kids do with
like kid ones, not with I. I get caught up in the I
think it's well, no, I'mnot gonna I'm not gonna say anything negative,
but I get caught up with withlike we really need like new pajamas
(43:44):
every year, though I do likepictures of it. You do you need
Christmas jammys even if they don't match. Notice speaking of the jammys, that
they had a lot of like familypictures up that they would show and Glen
Grave and they were I love thatthey were all kind of like awkward family
pictures. Yeah. You know,I've actually noticed in a few movies this
(44:04):
year where it's always like not agood family picture, but one that you
would look at and laugh. AndI really appreciate that they're doing that.
Yeah, yeah, hit chob homework. Yeah. Well I think we covered
a merry Scottish Christmas. Yeah wedid, and back soon with more.
(44:27):
Yeah. And if you have asuggestion for a movie again, visit us
on our socials at Hallmark Donkeys onInstagram or Facebook. We would love to
know what movie you want us tocover. Yes, and we've gotten a
few and we are planning on coveringthem. Yes, we have all right.
I think that's it. If youwould be so kind, We would
love if you would subscribe and orgive us a rating on wherever you listen
(44:51):
to your podcasts mm hmm. Extrapoints for good ratings. Yeah, sorry,
we don't want your bad ratings.Just kidding. We love you.
Okay, I think that's it.This is Jenny saying cheers, and this
is Carrie saying we'll see Yann's nexttime. Merry Christmas.
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