September 14, 2023 • 45 mins
This week Kerri and Jenny are taking things to Evergreen. We are watching Christmas in Evergreen, the first in the now four-movie series. Is there a more Christmas-y town than Evergreen or a better might-be-Santa? We don't think so. This movie originally aired in 2017 and stars Ashley Williams and Teddy Sears. We've also got Holly Robinson Peete, Barbara Niven, Marcus Rosner and Rukiya Bernard. It's a who's who of Hallmark Christmas movies and we love it. Need to talk about even more baking montages and snowball fights? Connect with us today! Instagram: @hallmarkjunkies Facebook: @hallmarkjunkies Kerri: @authorkerri Jenny: @mrs.chanandler_binggSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
I'm Jenny.
Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hi, I'm Carrie. We're best friends and new moms. We're
also the ogs of Hallmark Christmas Movies.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
We've been watching these movies since long before they became
a Christmas juggernaut. And now we're here to talk all
things Hallmark with you because we know you're watching too.
Sit back, relax, and get your Hallmark on.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
We are the Hallmark Junkies.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Mary Christmas.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Everyone.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
This is a very special episode of the Hallmark Junkies
because today we are going to be talking about a
really important movie in the Hallmark universe. So I am
Carrie and I am Jenny, and we're sad because our producer,
Harry aka my Dog is at a spa day.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yeah. So he has a tough life. If you haven't
figured that out yet, yeah, he really does.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
So, like I said, we are talking about a big movie,
very important in Hallmark land. It is Christmas in Evergreen.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
I mean this is a Jenny favorite. Love Christmas and
ever Love the whole series.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yes, and it is a series. There are I believe
four movies. This one was the first one. It came
out in twenty seventeen and it was starring some big
Hallmark names. Ashley Williams love. I love the Ashley Williams
who is the sister of Kimberly Williams. Paisley who was
the father of the bride and also a Hallmark star,
(01:45):
and she is the sister in law of Brad Paisley
country star.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Big family there.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Yeah, I mean, wouldn't you love to go to their Christmases?
And Teddy Sears Holly Robinson Pete who I love, Oh
yeah she is, she's like and Seymour where she just
never ages. I know, she's so beautiful.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
And Barbara Niven who is in tons tons of Hallmark stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah. And we have also mentioned Marcus Brosnerus Spencer, who's
kind of a big Callmark star to be playing a
secondary character.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Yeah yeah, I may or may not have a note
on that.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Okay, me too. Actually I wonder if it's the same
note we won't compare. Oh all right, should we start
with Picture It?
Speaker 1 (02:29):
I think so? All right.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Our first segment, as we know, named after our favorite
show girl girls and are one of our favorite Golden girls, Sophia.
Here we go. Picture It twenty seventeen, Northern Vermont, a
magical Christmas town called Evergreen and where there's a Christmas
snow globe that makes your wish come true only if
(02:51):
you wish what your heart truly desires.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Love the snow globe me too, And I love the
magical aspect of this movie. And I've decided that there are,
as we know, are many tropes that I enjoy in
these Hallmark movies. You know, I love amnesia. I love
yeah so great return from the big city to the
small town. Love that over it. I also like a
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little dose of magic, like maybe Guys Sanna or it
snows in Hawaii.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
You know why, I think because Christmas is magical when
you're a kid, so then when you're adult watching these movies,
it's magical again.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Oh and I don't know if we should mention this,
but I'm going to anyway. My one of my BFFs
from high school named Amber, who is now friends with
Jenny also and hates Hallmark. It just we haven't converted
her yet. No, Yeah, We're get there, but she's pretty stubborn.
She I'm convinced things that every Hallmark movie has a
(03:48):
magical snow globe.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Yeah, she really does, or takes place in a snow globe.
She thinks it's all snow globe related. Yeah, it's probably
because we had Christmas and Evergreen on at your when
we're getting ready for your wedding.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
My wedding that in July, and she's like, oh, this
damn snow glow. Years ago, there was a movie on
I want to say, what was Freeform called before Disney, ABC,
whatever Freeform used to be called, and they would have
their twenty five Days of Christmas and there was a
movie where it was set in a snow club.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
I love that was Christina Millions.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Yes it was. I watched that and I love Christina Millions.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Yeah. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
But so this whole podcast I think should be a
shout out to Amber.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Hey, Amber, Hey, pigs up. I hope you're listening.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Ol Mark loves you. Not really.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
All right, Back to Evergreen. Alie Shaw is a lifetime
resident and town veterinarian, but she's making a big move
to Washington, d C. To spend Christmas with Spencer, or
on again, off again boyfriend of two years. They're trying
to see if they were meant to be. Spencer has
a big wig job in DC and he's made some swanky,
non small town Christmas place, the.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Going to a swanky party, including a helicotzer ride to
the Hampton's on Christmas Day.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I think at this point we all know that romance
is not going to make it. After a few false starts,
including a possible emergency cow labor that turned out just
to be the cow mowing, Ali finally makes it to
the airport in her old time red truck that never starts.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Can she interjects something, Yeah, already the whole alley. Moving
to DC gives me so much anxiety on so many levels. Like,
first of all, I don't know how much time she
has left to get to the airport, but she does
like eighteen things.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
I know, and I have such airport anxiety in general.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
She's like, I'm going to the airport. The truck doesn't start,
the cow might be in labor, I got stock. Yeah,
the parents are having a meldown.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
As respiss that she's leaving.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
As for the mayor, Yeah, and it's just everybody keeps
calling her and she's just smiling through it.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Yeah, maybe it's a sign that she doesn't want to leave.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
And well, and well, there's a lot to give it
to that, but I'm just gonna say, the whole thing's
giving me anxiety.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
All right. At the airport, she runs into Ryan Bellamy Comma, MD,
and his daughter Zoe, and she had just also happened
to run into the duo in Evergreen, where they had
made a pit stop while on their way to the
airport to fly to Florida for Christmas because Zoe's mom
died last year. Yeah, Hallmark, yea. Zoe had just enough
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time in Evergreen to make a wish on the magical
snow Globe, and Ryan had just enough time to help
Ali start the never starting red truck. Next, in the
turn of events that we couldn't ever have seen coming,
all flights out of Burlington got canceled due to heavy snow.
So after Ali's truck won't start again and Ryan and
Zoe can't find a hotel room, the truck magically starts
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and the three head back to Evergreen to spend the
night there.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
You know, I have a question about the red truck.
Red trucks have really come to be a symbol of Christmas. Yeah,
because of this movie. Oh was it a thing that
I just didn't know about.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Oh that's a good question. I haven't It is around
this time the two thousand that I remember them getting. Yeah,
I love a red truck for Christmas type thing.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
And it's like I do too, But why do I
like that?
Speaker 2 (07:15):
I don't know. I know it's kind of weird. Also,
look it up.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
This red truck is the cleanest truck I've ever seen.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
I hate this red truck. But we'll talk about it later, Okay,
I get side note. Spencer back in DC is not
cool with this change of plans. So we have an
eventful time back in Evergreen. Buttercup the mowing cow started
mowing again, but this time she was actually in labor,
and Ali, Doctor Ryan, and Zoe delivered a calf named Snowflake.
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Also a pipe burst in town Hall, the same town
hall that was supposed to host the forty eighth annual
Evergreen Christmas Festival, only the biggest Evergreen event of the year.
This is the event that will apparently make or break
New Mayor's Ezra's job. Also the event that Alli's friends,
played by our favoritet Holly Robinson Pete love to over
(08:03):
planning this year. This is a disaster with a capital T.
Carrie uh uh. Next morning, Ali, Doctor Ryan, and Zoe
are about to head back to the airport in the
red truck, but as luck would have it, storm last
night caused a rock slide and the highway's block. No
one can get in or out of Evergreen. Zoe's pretty
(08:26):
pumped about this, but Mayor Ezra and friend Michelle aren't.
And you know why, this is yet another blow to
the annual Christmas festival.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Because people come to this festival that don't just.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Look at every yeah. Yeah, And not to mention another issue,
the ladies who were supposed to cook for the festival.
They're in Montpellier. They can't get back in. Yeah, and
there's only one road that leads in and out yeah,
which makes Evergreen just more adylic to me. So since
they're stuck in Evergreen, we get some fun Christmas activities. Ali,
(08:58):
Ryan and Zoe make a snow and they do some
snow angels. We have a little tree trimming scene, and
I think we're seeing a little spark here between Ryan
and Allie.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
I think. So.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
They also decide to help save the festival, which has
moved to the barn on the farm where Buttercup and
Snowflake live, and they bake some cookies. Q Baking Montage,
all that baking and they run out of supply, so
Doctor Ryan heads out for some more and guess who
shows up? Who Spencer. He took the helicopter from DC
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to Vermont and you know, it's a big surprise. And
guess what. Doctor Ryan returns with a Christmas tree that
he bought for Ali, but Spencer is there and things
start to get awkward, and Ali then admit she might
be having some second thoughts about Spencer in this whole
big move to DC. That's a real conundrum. But she's
gonna have to figure it out soon because guess what,
(09:55):
the road's getting cleared that night and they can all
fly out the next morning. That would be Spencer and
Ali going to their swanky, dzy Christmas and Zoe and
Ryan going to Florida for a Christmas cruise.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Which Zoe clearly does not want to do.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
She is like very open about this, There is no
hiding it.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
And I kept thinking, like, you know, I get the
idea that like someone important to you has passed away,
so your first Christmas without that person, like, let's do
something different. Yeah, yeah, but like you have a little kid,
take them to Disney World. At least I mean, maybe
it's a Disney cruise, but good point.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Yeah, Orney, New York City.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Yeah, see the Rockets and do all that Christmas e
stuff there.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Yeah, if they were going to see the Rockets, you
would be much more jealous.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Oh my god, I would love to see the Rockets
any day, any day of the year.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
So guess what, Carrie. I mean, Carrie, that's me you.
Alie does figure it out, and that's because she talked
to the mysterious might be Santa in town.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
I love them, might be Santa.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
And this one's great. Yeah, And she breaks things off
with Spencer and she's like, you know what, I'm going
to stay in Evergreen. Maybe you want to stay here
with me, and he's like, no, my job in DC
is calling. So they're breaking things off.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
And plus he has a swinky party to go to.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
So she hasn't quite figured out yet that she wants
to be with Ryan Bellamy MD and Zoe, although we
all know it's gonna happen, and her mom knows it's
going to happen, and her mom talks some sense into
her and she's like, you know what, I'm going to
go intercept them before they leave for the airport. At
the inn, but she's too late that in Yeah, it's
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a great end, it's too late. They already left for
the airport. But let's not frot just yet, because Zoe
had the magical wish that she had made on the
snow globe that was still out there, and it seems
like that wish might be that they get to spend
Christmas in Evergreen. And just like that, there's mechanical issues
on the plane flight canceled. Ryan and Zoe get to
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stay in Evergreen for Christmas. Back they go, they meet
up with Allie at the wildly successful forty eighth annual
Evergreen Christmas Festival. Michelle pulled it off after her panic attack,
which was soft with the Twelve Days of Christmas. And
we get our first Chris between Allie and Ryan after
they reunite at the Christmas Festival, and then they all
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eat dinner together in the Chris Kringle Diner for Christmas
and it's so beautiful and it reminded me of Whoville
and the Grinch when they were all eating that dinner together. Yeah,
and that ends the first Christmas in Evergreen spectacular.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Well, that was excellent. I really love it me too,
but of course I have a lot to say about it.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
So do I so much written down? Should we take
a break first, Let's take a little break and then
we'll write the movie, all right, back, Harrie, Yes, let's
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rate this movie.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
What do you think?
Speaker 2 (13:04):
One to five CCBs.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
I give it a four.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Oh yeah, I'm trying not to cry. I know.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
I mean it's up there for me.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Yeah, okay four, yeah, yeah, I give it five.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Yeah, this is your rocket.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
It is well I gave them a five to two, didn't.
I remember this is up there with like CCB switch
for Christmas and a sudden Christmas Christmas. Yeah, it is
just it's so yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
You know, I don't even know where to start.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
I know, for our next segment, free for all, Free
for all, all right, just randomly select something and let's go.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Okay, this movie has a lot of os the Hallmark
things in it. Okay, basically, you know, we have red Truck,
we have snow lights, canceled.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Flights, canceled is huge.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Dead mom Hulus, and we have cooking mod baking montages
and tree decorating.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
I know, and I wondered, what one what did you
think of the sugar cookies after the baking montage. I
don't remember, okay, which means they were like multi tiered
sugar cookies. They probably did look better than them, all.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Yeah. I don't think anyone had flour on their face,
did they No, But they openly had it all over
the apron and they're like, that's why we're out of
flower because it's all over your apron.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Dad.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Yeah, that's better than the face the face one is.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Yeah, the face one's just wrong.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
But yeah, So a lot of os hallmework moments that
I'm into, Yeah, there were there were a lot.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Okay, let's see.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
You know what I think. Actually, let me talk a
little bit about the town of Evergreen. Please do because
I have one about the town of Evergreen too. Okay,
So Evergreen the town is based on Hallmark artist Jeff
Greenleaf's Crisps illustrations.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
I loved the illustrations when you came back from like
ads or something. I loved this.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Feature throughout the movie. Yeah, the town of Evergreen was,
actually it was. The movie was filmed in Burnaby Village,
British Columbia. Burnaby Village was built in nineteen seventy one
to reflect the early history of the Canadian province and
the heritage village includes a bakery, a bank, a general store,
a blacksmith shop, a lot cabin, a church, and more.
(15:31):
And they all look like buildings from the twenties that
have been frozen. I'm oh, which now means I want
to go up to British Columbia.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Let's go. Yeah, because my note on Evergreen was I
want to live in Evergreen and it's it's my soul town.
That's what I wrote. And it really hurt in this
movie that d C was the kind of evil big
city because, as you know, we live in the DC area.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Yeah, I mean DC often is, I get it.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
I know a lot, we have a lot to offer.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
I know people think it's just political in DC, and
of course there is a lot of politics and that
yet of crap, but we literally never talk politic No.
Holly Robinson Pete love Her said the town of Evergreen
is the star and we're all co stars, and I
thought that was right, Like that town really is it is.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
That's why I think I love this movie so much,
and that's why part of why I also have Christmas
Underraps is Garland. But this makes Garland look like yeah, please,
I'm not going to Garland. I'm going to Evergreen, and
one day apparently we will when we go up to Canada.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
I feel like a lot of places in Canada probably
look like Evergreen.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Let's just do like a cross country Canada trip and
stop at all the Evergreens next year.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
What do you have?
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Okay, red truck, let's talk, let's do. Let's get back
a little bit to the red truck. Like you said,
red truck has become this Christmas symbol, and I actually
have one on a mat and my house right now,
even though it's like, you know, not Christmas. We moved
and we don't have another matt yet. You'd think that'd
be easy to get, but it's not. So. I love
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the red trucks, but I hate hate the red truck
in this movie because, like I think, what, it's so
clean inside and out. It is clean, constantly, not starting,
and I don't understand, like she said, she inherited it
from her grandfather, and I'm trying to like, how old
is this truck? And here's the part it multiplies in
later movies, like there are more red trucks once you
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get to the fourth one. I think everyone drives that
red truck. And here's the part that I thought was
so funny was after the airport gets closed down due
to the blizzard, They're like, oh, we're gonna stay here.
She's like, not meam that my truck is seen where, Like,
you're driving that truck through a blizzard. And I looked
at the tires. Those are not nice. They're old time
tires too. I don't know why you call that other
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than old time. And they threw all their luggage just
in the truck, in the bed to get wet in
the snow.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Well, and that's another thing. It's snowing. It's winter, and
for those of you who don't live in cold climates
where you get snow, everybody's.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Car is disgusting. Snows are disgusting. It's a magical truck.
It's a magical.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Yeah, it has to be magical. But that actually brings
up something Elsa's that she keeps driving herself to and
from the airport. She literally knows every single person in
this town. Why is no one giving her a ride?
Speaker 2 (18:27):
And didn't she at one point say the truck was
going to d C too, Yeah, so like was she
getting it shipped?
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Well?
Speaker 2 (18:33):
I think the.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Thing was she was going she had just closed her practice,
she was which.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Was also mind boggling to me because she said they
were just testing the waters and you sell your business,
like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
And then she is going to go to d C
to go to this winky party and spend Christmas with
Spencer for a week, and then I think she was coming.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Back that's right, yeah, getting her crap.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
But there's like this adds to my anxiety of her
moving is like she decorates her house.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
There's not like.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
A moving packing box in sighte Yeah. And then like
they do say like the airport I think is supposed
to be an hour or more away. It was in Burlington,
So maybe she doesn't want to inconvenience anyone.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
No, because everybody in that town is jolly and nice.
That's not an inconvenience for them. It's just I guess
that's why I want to live there, which also drives
me to the airport.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Leads me to something else Where do doctor Ryan and
Zoe live?
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Because I know why I wondered too.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
They are driving on the only road that leads in
and out of Evergreen because they stop in Evergreen, and
it makes it seem like they're coming from the north,
which is like Canada. And then he's a doctor and
also leads you to believe like a big time doctor,
which would be a city. Cities have airports, but they're
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flying out of Burlington, Vermont, Yeah, which is still a
hour or more away from Evergreen.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
And also you would have thought that the festival and
Evergreen was supposed to be so big and people came
from all over, but they had really never heard of it. Yeah,
like where are they from?
Speaker 1 (20:12):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Also I just want to add in that when their flight,
the original flights are canceled and they're at the airport,
doctor Ryan and Zoe are like, let's get something to eat,
even though they just ate you never agreed. I mean
that's cool, I could go for a burger.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Yeah, but were there on VAK you need all time
on BAKA.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Well And also actually this kind of goes with this too,
Allie's whole relationship with Spencer, Like why would you ever
leave a town like Evergreen at Christmas?
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Yeah? That makes no sense. And I also wrote down
like I want to know how they met where they met?
They're so opposite and I want to know more about Spencer,
because why was he spending his Christmas just with like
his work pals, Because usually then you see in these
movies that somebody hates Christmas because of their past. But
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there was none of that. I mean, he was the
secondary character, but you would think he'd want to also
spend Christmas with his family, right, So I don't know. Yeah,
I was confused by all of that too well.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
And I don't know if our our listeners know this,
but in the movie A Christmas Detour with CCB Candice
Cameron Beret, which I don't remember if that came out.
I think it came out before. I think so too, yeah,
before Christmas and Evergreen. Barbara Niven, who plays Ali's mom
in this movie, plays Spencer's mom in Christmas Christmas Detour,
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and she plays she's kind of a nasty Momoya's does
a good job that movie. Marcus Rosner, I think they
live in the Hampton.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Oh yeah, I think so, that's where they live.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
And CCB is flying from California to spend her first
Christmas with them and gets a detour because there is
a huge, ginormous blizzard that literally closes down the entire
East Coast and Marcus Rosner is really.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Pissed that she can't get there. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
It kind of is like Spencer, like, what do you
mean you can't get hair. It's like, well, the airport's closed.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
It's like and then he's talking to her from at work,
which is like the best view of DC there is.
I want to building on the mall. And then he's like, wow,
you can't fight. I can't pick you up tomorrow. I
have to work. I'm like, you're at work today, and
she was flying out, like you get fifteen minutes off,
You're obviously very important at your job. I feel like
(22:46):
you could say, hey, I got to run over to
Reagan to get.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Yeah, which is like two seconds. Yeah, maybe she's flying
into Dulles.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
That would suck.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
All right. What else?
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Okay, I have a few small things. One. I loved
the mysterious Santa in this movie, like loved and I
thought he put Frank Holliday to shame, like he yeah, yeah,
he's got some Santa game. He should be that should
be like his actual profession, which maybe it is also
another town without a doctor, But I thought now without
(23:22):
a vent, yeah doctor Orvette. But I thought this one
was a little better because you know, there's other towns nearby,
whereas in Alaska the closest thing was like two hundred
miles away Anchorage and Jacid. Is it just that doctors
don't like Christmas town Maybe they're like, no, I have
to work on Christmas. I don't want everyone jolly around me. Okay,
(23:45):
the magical snow Globe, everyone kept telling people what they wished,
and to me, I was like, no, that's can't You
can't admit your wish or never like you blow out candles,
you can't sell people. You throw a penny into like
a fountain. You can't tell people or it's not going
to come true. Wish on a star. You keep it
to yourself. So I really want them, even though everybody's
(24:06):
wish did come true. So maybe that's just how this
snow globe works. Stop telling your wishes to everyone. It
goes against like wish you know, yest?
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Yeah, no, I agree. I hadn't thought about that, but
I do agree. Yeah, this is one of my favorite
notes that I picked up. They're having this festival in
five days, which, first of all, it is yet another
festival on Christmas Eve, which I don't know if I've
talked about on the pod yet. But I have massive
issues with anything happening on Christmas Eve because my family
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is Italian. Christmas Eve is very very important for us,
probably a bigger day than actual Christmas whatever. So we
have a festival in five days, and I believe it's
bearer Ezra who says, let's make an app. Yes, all right,
my friends. Here to tell you something. In my other life,
(24:59):
I used to in communications and part of my department's
job was making an app for our conference. We'd start
that ish about six months before our conference. We'd have
it launching a month or two before, because it was
another way to get interested right in your event.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
This whole event was was supposed to be a big
fundraiser for the Town Hall Preservation Society. Oh, there's so
many things you could do with an app for that,
But not five years before. I never saw during the
festival how they were making money, Like it didn't seem
it was ticketed. People were just walking in. They were
just giving them. He was giving out cookies. Yeah, So
(25:38):
I wasn't sure how they actually do make money for
the town pressure and maybe that's why the water pipe
burst and it turned into an ice rink at town
hall because they don't make money. Yeah, for town preservation.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
But there's another part in the movie where there's a
landslide and the mayor says, oh, another problem could have
been solved with an app.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
How what kind of app is this?
Speaker 1 (26:08):
What kind of app on a phone can stop a
rock slide?
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Now? And maybe me? He was like, it would tell
people like a detour, but there was no detour because
there was one.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Yeah, yeah, get in your helicopter.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Youah, take your helicopter, which I did really question if
someone would really take a helicopter from DC to Vermont.
That seems like a really long stretch for helicopters. Yeah,
do they go that far? They go? I looked it up.
They go two hundred and fifty to four hundred miles Max,
I think so maybe New York City or the Huntins.
(26:43):
But getting it to Vermont, like just hop on a
hop on your private plane.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Yeah yeah, fly into Boston and get a helicopter.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
That bad weather, like, just let's calm it down with
the helo. Yeah, call in that favor later, Spencer.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Yeah, you know, these Evergreen peeps, they put a lot
of pressure on Alie.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
They really her mom Ezra, like a lot of pressure.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
There's a problem. Let's call Ali, like what do we
do al Like I get the cow might be in labor.
Let's call the vet. But like you've all said goodbye
to her because she stopped at like all of your houses.
You know, she's on our way to the airport. And
it's like, oh my god, something's happened. Called Ali.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
We don't know what to do, or like let's bully
her into staying.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
And then there's a part where like I forget who
has like a bunch of Christmas lights. It might be
it's HRP, I think, yeah, And it's like in this
big not yeah, it's her, and she's starting to attack,
like let's call Alie. I don't know what to do.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
So I don't know. Here's the one. I thought this
was so funny. So Hannah, who plays bigger roles in later,
she's she oh she's wearing the Christmas weater ryeah yeah
yeah yeah, So she again admitting her wish, was like
I just wish for a good man who loves Christmas
as much as I do. And I thought it was
so funny. It's like that's my one deal breaker, must
(28:14):
love Christmas. Which I've never thought about, Like, hey, what
are your requirements? Doesn't matter. Just have to love Christmas
like I loved that. It could be anything else. Just
got out of jail, does not matter. Do you like Christmas?
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Just celebrate Christmas in jail, right, as long as did
you decorate yourself? Oh my gosh. You know someone says
y'all in this movie. Ooh, I don't remember, but I
have someone says y'all. They don't say that in Vermont.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
That's true because Vermont is in the north.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
That's true. Yeah, I have a question for you. Tell me.
So they put an angel on top of this tree,
and I am wondering, are you a star or an
angel person? Or a bow or a bow? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (29:03):
You know what, I think that's a great question to
take to the socials. So go to Instagram or Facebook
at Hallmark Junkies and tell us star, angel, bow or
something else.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Yeah, I think I'm a star person. Though I've never
had a star, I've always had angels. And actually one time,
when I was growing up, we had a very nice
angel and by accident, I sat on it and I
broke all the fingers except for the middle one off
so we did you know, So we had an angel
on top of our tree that was just flipping everyone
(29:37):
the bird.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
That's like the most amazing thing I've ever heard. I
think I'm going to put that in a book.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
And it was like it was actually a very nice angel,
but I guess it was so funny that I didn't
get in trouble for, you know, damaging a quite nice angel,
because you know, it was giving everyone the middle finger.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
I like both stars and angels. Right now, we have
a big bow. Oh, okay that we use. I want
to get an angel, but we want to get one
that looks like our daughter. So we're like, we could
wait and see what color hair she has. Except our
daughter's hair has not decided what color is going to
be yet.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
It'll probably change too as she gets older, because like
our daughter's blonde right now, but I'm pretty sure she'll
she'll go brown. Yeah, So do you go like blonde
or brown?
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Yeah? And I'm not sure, Cora, she might end up auburn.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Oh yeah yeah. Maybe get wigs for your for your angel.
That's so fun angel with wigs. Yeah, we're starting Etsy store.
I have another fun one.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Okay, So as we talked about doctor Ryan is taking
his motherless daughter on a cruise, and of course says
it leaves out of Florida, which you know many cruises do.
Later in the movie, you find out they're actually flying
into Orlando. They're they're taking the cruise from Orlando, which
number one made me think, just go to Disney World.
Oh yeah, number two and maybe they were supposed to
(31:02):
go to Disney World, but their flight it is being canful.
They can well, my friends, Orlando is landlocked. Orlando is
in this center of Florida. I have been to Orlando
a bajillion times. I've seen many man made lakes there.
And then I said, well, I don't know, maybe Disney
(31:23):
made a canal that goes So I googled it and
then I find all of these websites that are talking
about how their cruises leaf from Orlando, and I am like,
what the fluff? Like, what is happening here? How are
you leaving from Orlando? Got a little deeper. What I
found out is that they're actually leaving from Port Canaveral,
(31:46):
which has become so popular as a port that it
is one of the most popular ports in the entire world.
Port Canaveral is forty five minutes east form Orlando. I'm
guessing Cape Canaveral Space Launch. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that
it's over on the Atlantic side, but they continuously call
it Orlando.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Mmm, misnummer Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Forty five minutes. That's the strut.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
I will say, I am bad enough at geography that
it would never like pique my interest. I'd just be like, Okay,
I'm gonna I'm gonna sail out of Orlando today. I
but now that you mentioned it, I think because I've.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Been to Orlando so many times, I was just as
soon as they said, are our cruise is leaving out
of Orlando, I'm like, really, is it also leaving out
of Iowa? Like that's cool?
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Nebraska cru.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
And you know, also, I mean the whole cruise thing too,
Like I said, were they going to Disney World first?
Because they were supposed to be there a couple of
days earlier. But I'm finding this this movie once again
has another timeline issue because they're like, Okay, what should
we do this afternoon? They're like, let's go ice skating.
(32:54):
I'm like, oh yeah, ice skating another USSOL Hallmark moment.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Oh and I liked their ice skating you could actually
see them skating.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
It didn't look like when they go like skating that afternoon,
it's dark.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
I was very confused by timing and time. Yeah, I
was getting And also when Spencer arrived from the Heilo,
it also seemed like maybe he had taken the helo
at night, but then they still had a lot more
day to go. Yeah, so that also made me nervous,
like I don't want black copper chopper through.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
A landslide or whatever on a huge tank of gas.
And then Ryan and Zoe are leaving and they say
goodbye to Allie at night, but then all of a sudden,
it's morning, and then we cut to them at the
airport and it's a night again.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
I know, I was really getting confused by that. I'm
glad that you did too. Let's see, I don't have
much else. I did appreciate at the beginning where they
said that on a clear day and evergreen you could
see the North Pole.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Oh yeah, I was all about that one too.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Again, bad geography here, but does not seem possible.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Yeah. I don't want to get political, but member when
Sarah Pally that made me think of it.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
I can see Russia from my doorstep. I was like,
that seems more plausible than seeing the North Pole from Vermont.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
We talk about Chris Krigel Dieter. I of course love
the name me too. I often wonder though, with Hallmark movies,
what happens on January second? Does the entire town go
into like a deep depression?
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Yeah, because you know, if it's tourism based town, usually
it's a little longer than Christmas season, right, it's like summer. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Well, and like people are different again. You could go
to our socials at Hallmark Junkies on Facebook or Instagram
and let us know, like when do you take down
your decorations because some people, you know, December twenty sixth
that it's over.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Yeah. I'm a January first girl. I'm January first or second.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
And you know some people also put them up before
Thanksgiving yeah yeah, Friday after Thanksgiving. So like but most
of these towns it would have here, they have their
stuff up in November. Yeah, and I mean it is
fully decorated and there's so much Christmas that like, cause
I get a little depressed after Christmas and the Hallmark
movie stop.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
And yeah, just like in January and it's cold and
like you don't have Christmas to look forward to, and then.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Football is gonna end, and it's just like so that's
my first question. But then I was thinking, like, is
it weird if you have Chris Kringle Diner like you
know in May and June or you just like you know,
we would go, well absolutely, yeah, is it still decorated?
It better be, I hope.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
So if I'm going to Kris Kringle Diner, it better
be decorated like all out all year.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Yeah, because a lot of these towns in these movies
are all like, you know, the Christmas Inn and yeah, yeah,
you're Christmas eve meat.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Good question. I really don't have much else. The only
other note I have is in all of these movies
when there's caroling. Oh my god, I have a note
about this. It's so cringe to me. That's not my note.
I get so. And when I was a kid, all
I wanted to do was Carol. I don't know if
(36:08):
I ever did it, I might have won. I have
a bad memory from my job childhood. I don't repress.
I don't remember well, but I always wanted to Carrol.
I thought it was like cool. But now when I
see it in movies. I just get so much secondhand embarrassment.
I'm like, stop caroling now, it's embarrassing. What about you?
Speaker 1 (36:25):
What about my note was more than have you ever
noticed in caroling scenes they're always singing deck the Halls.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Now that you mentioned it, it's like where they're always
playing Silent Night like in the song. Yeah, I guess
it's an easy one.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Yes, I mean it's not. I mean it's fine. It's
not one of my faves. Yeah, if I have anything else,
I do love that he gets her a treat. I
think that's very romantic and like a gift that you
actually thought of, you know.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
And Santa basically told him to get it.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Yeah. Well, plus it does make me laugh because Ali
says at one point, she's like, oh, I haven't gotten
a tree either, And it's like, right, you haven't gotten
a tree because you're moving.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
Right and specifically Christmas.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Here, and we know you're getting a real tree, Like
this is not a balsam.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
No, no, no, let's just go cut down your own.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Tree there to water it for a week.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Yeah, that's a fire hazard.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
And well if there's lights on, yeah, and your whole
house is decorated, which is also weird considering you're moving
the end.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
It just goes back to my anxiety about her movie. Yeah. Yeah,
and you know, we all knew it wasn't gonna work.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
I will say a note from my mom. She didn't
give it to me on this movie, but she does
mention it because there's often a vet in these movies.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Yeah, that's that's a good one. That should go and
hallwark bing go. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
But my mom's issue is most vets have pets. You know,
they have rescue pets.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
I didn't know that. I don't know either, but.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
You know she.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
Knows.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
And I mean I could see it. I could see that,
like you're a vet, I'm sure you're rescuing.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Yeah, it makes sense.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
But they never have pets. Yeah, I mean I guess
Merrily did have her cat, Queenie.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Yeah, Queenie until Queenie died. Rip Queenie. Should we move
to our final segment? Let's do it all right, romance
one oh one. First, we're gonna have our resident romance
author give us some insights and then final question, which
is a little bit moot for this movie, but will
the couple make it?
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Yeah, So let's go Carre Okay, So at first I
was looking at this movie and I was like, oh,
and this was a couple of years after it came out.
I was like, Oh, Nancy Nagel, who's a pretty big
romance writer. She's a USA Today best selling author. She
has written a ton of books. You can go to
her website Nancy Nagel dot com or hey Nancy. I
(38:54):
don't know Nancy personally, but I know her name. I'm
sure I've read her books and a lot of books,
and a lot of Christmas books. That was like, oh,
so she wrote Christmas and Evergreen. And then I'm looking
at it more and I realized that the movie Christmas
and Evergreen came out in twenty seventeen. Nancy's book Christmas
(39:15):
and Evergreen came out in twenty eighteen. So what I
learned is this is not a movie based on a book. Okay,
this book is based on the Hallmark Channel original movie.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
So how does that work? Though she got but she
still was a part of it, right. Well, they also
call it completing the novelization of the original movie. So basically,
a movie has come out and publishers or the company
will go and find an author and say like, we
want you to write the novelization because I don't know,
(39:51):
maybe it's so popular. Yeah, so Hallmark is a big conglomerate, yes,
and you know there's round Media, which are the movies.
There's you know, the obviously the cards and the stores
and for a while it's no longer in existence, but
there was Hallmark Publishing and that is who published this.
(40:11):
I'm assuming.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Hallmark Publishing actually just had this editor named Stacy who
was amazing, and so I don't know if Stacy went
to her and said, like, we want you to write this.
But there are four movies so far in the Christmas
and Evergreen series slash, four books all written after So
the first three were all written by Nancy Nagel. We
(40:33):
have Christmas and Evergreen, then we have Letters to Santa,
then we have Tidings of Joy, and the fourth one
was Bells Are Ringing and that one was written by
Lacey Baker. So, by the way, so I found this
whole thing very very interesting of them, Like what made
them want to go and have a book, Yeah, because
(40:54):
I mean it was a really popular movie. Yeah, I
mean it's interesting. I remember in the nineties, I one
of my all time favorite movies is of course Independence Day,
and after I saw it three times in the theater,
I think for my birthday I got the book. But
that movie is also not based on a book. I
think it was the same kind of deal. It's almost
(41:16):
like you're reading the screenplay. Yeah, but as a novel
as opposed to like a Jurassic Park, which was actually
based on her book.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
So looking more into it to Nancy Nagel, as I said,
wrote a ton of Christmas books, and she actually did
write one called well she wrote too that you'll be
familiar with. One was Christmas Joy and that was she
was like some kind of career woman but she had
to go back to a small town because her antbroker
foot or something.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
Oh is that one was there jam involved, like a jam.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Books with Jam, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
And then the other one was called it was for
Hallmark Movies and Mysteries. It was called Hope at Christmas
and that was in twenty eighteen. It was starring Ryan Pavey,
who's a big Hallmark guy, and Scottie Thompson. And that
one the book was released in twenty twenty. So again interesting.
(42:12):
But in that movie I remember this so clearly. I
was watching it with my mom, and they're in a
bookstore that's like part of the plot, and you see
Nancy Nagel book prominably and I was like, oh, I
know that name. I know that name. And I was like, oh,
I bet she wrote this this book.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
Well.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
On IMDb, I found this note under trivia that made
me laugh. It said this movie features more than a
handful of blatant product placements for author Nancy Nagel, upon
whose novel the film was based Good Job Nancy, in
addition to her cameo.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
So I guess she was in the movie. Woo.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
Nagel's name appears distractedly in many shots on fronts and
spines of book covers in the bookstore, even at the
top of the all book Christmas tree and the competition sequence.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
Way to Go Nancy. Yeah, I want to talk to
her now.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
Yeah, Yeah, let's do this.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
Yeah. I love it. So I thought that the whole.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
Thing, just to me was very, very interesting, because you
always think of it the opposite way.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
And I don't know, like, now that Hallmark Publishing is closed, Oh,
do they do it as much or would another publisher
want to do it? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
Yeah, all right, So shall we move to our final question?
Speaker 2 (43:28):
Let's do it.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
What's our final question, Jim.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
Our final question, Carrie is will this couple make it?
Will doctor Ryan Bellamy m D and Ali Shaw com
a veterinarian will they make Yeah?
Speaker 1 (43:45):
Yeah, they're gonna make it totally. I'm not gonna lie. Actually,
in terms of Hallmark couples, I didn't see like I
saw the spark, but I didn't see super amount of chemistry.
But yeah, they're going to make it. They're gonna make it,
and they're going to have a baby. Maybe in one
of these movies we'll find out. Maybe maybe we'll see
an ultrasound, but yeah, they're gonna make it. Again, I agree,
(44:09):
I didn't see all the chemistry, but they were cute
and Zoe's fine.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
And again, the movie's more about Evergreen than the Red Trick.
It's absolutely more about Evergreen. And it's also more about
Holly Robinson Pete because big fans so much. All right,
did we do it?
Speaker 1 (44:24):
We did it? Bay. This was such a fun one.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
It was, oh gosh, I love it. Well, if you
like this movie, we would love it. If you like
this movie or this podcast both either it doesn't matter,
or if you don't like it, please come give us
a five star rating. It would mean a lot to us.
It really would.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
Maybe write a little review about how awesome we are.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
This is Jenny saying.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
Choose, and this is Carrie saying, we'll see Yin's next time.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
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Speaker 2 (00:00):
I'm Jenny.
Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hi, I'm Carrie. We're best friends and new moms. We're
also the ogs of Hallmark Christmas Movies.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
We've been watching these movies since long before they became
a Christmas juggernaut. And now we're here to talk all
things Hallmark with you because we know you're watching too.
Sit back, relax, and get your Hallmark on.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
We are the Hallmark Junkies.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Mary Christmas.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Everyone.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
This is a very special episode of the Hallmark Junkies
because today we are going to be talking about a
really important movie in the Hallmark universe. So I am
Carrie and I am Jenny, and we're sad because our producer,
Harry aka my Dog is at a spa day.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yeah. So he has a tough life. If you haven't
figured that out yet, yeah, he really does.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
So, like I said, we are talking about a big movie,
very important in Hallmark land. It is Christmas in Evergreen.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
I mean this is a Jenny favorite. Love Christmas and
ever Love the whole series.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yes, and it is a series. There are I believe
four movies. This one was the first one. It came
out in twenty seventeen and it was starring some big
Hallmark names. Ashley Williams love. I love the Ashley Williams
who is the sister of Kimberly Williams. Paisley who was
the father of the bride and also a Hallmark star,
(01:45):
and she is the sister in law of Brad Paisley
country star.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Big family there.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Yeah, I mean, wouldn't you love to go to their Christmases?
And Teddy Sears Holly Robinson Pete who I love, Oh
yeah she is, she's like and Seymour where she just
never ages. I know, she's so beautiful.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
And Barbara Niven who is in tons tons of Hallmark stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah. And we have also mentioned Marcus Brosnerus Spencer, who's
kind of a big Callmark star to be playing a
secondary character.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Yeah yeah, I may or may not have a note
on that.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Okay, me too. Actually I wonder if it's the same
note we won't compare. Oh all right, should we start
with Picture It?
Speaker 1 (02:29):
I think so? All right.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Our first segment, as we know, named after our favorite
show girl girls and are one of our favorite Golden girls, Sophia.
Here we go. Picture It twenty seventeen, Northern Vermont, a
magical Christmas town called Evergreen and where there's a Christmas
snow globe that makes your wish come true only if
(02:51):
you wish what your heart truly desires.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Love the snow globe me too, And I love the
magical aspect of this movie. And I've decided that there are,
as we know, are many tropes that I enjoy in
these Hallmark movies. You know, I love amnesia. I love
yeah so great return from the big city to the
small town. Love that over it. I also like a
(03:14):
little dose of magic, like maybe Guys Sanna or it
snows in Hawaii.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
You know why, I think because Christmas is magical when
you're a kid, so then when you're adult watching these movies,
it's magical again.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Oh and I don't know if we should mention this,
but I'm going to anyway. My one of my BFFs
from high school named Amber, who is now friends with
Jenny also and hates Hallmark. It just we haven't converted
her yet. No, Yeah, We're get there, but she's pretty stubborn.
She I'm convinced things that every Hallmark movie has a
(03:48):
magical snow globe.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Yeah, she really does, or takes place in a snow globe.
She thinks it's all snow globe related. Yeah, it's probably
because we had Christmas and Evergreen on at your when
we're getting ready for your wedding.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
My wedding that in July, and she's like, oh, this
damn snow glow. Years ago, there was a movie on
I want to say, what was Freeform called before Disney, ABC,
whatever Freeform used to be called, and they would have
their twenty five Days of Christmas and there was a
movie where it was set in a snow club.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
I love that was Christina Millions.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Yes it was. I watched that and I love Christina Millions.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Yeah. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
But so this whole podcast I think should be a
shout out to Amber.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Hey, Amber, Hey, pigs up. I hope you're listening.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Ol Mark loves you. Not really.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
All right, Back to Evergreen. Alie Shaw is a lifetime
resident and town veterinarian, but she's making a big move
to Washington, d C. To spend Christmas with Spencer, or
on again, off again boyfriend of two years. They're trying
to see if they were meant to be. Spencer has
a big wig job in DC and he's made some swanky,
non small town Christmas place, the.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Going to a swanky party, including a helicotzer ride to
the Hampton's on Christmas Day.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I think at this point we all know that romance
is not going to make it. After a few false starts,
including a possible emergency cow labor that turned out just
to be the cow mowing, Ali finally makes it to
the airport in her old time red truck that never starts.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Can she interjects something, Yeah, already the whole alley. Moving
to DC gives me so much anxiety on so many levels. Like,
first of all, I don't know how much time she
has left to get to the airport, but she does
like eighteen things.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
I know, and I have such airport anxiety in general.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
She's like, I'm going to the airport. The truck doesn't start,
the cow might be in labor, I got stock. Yeah,
the parents are having a meldown.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
As respiss that she's leaving.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
As for the mayor, Yeah, and it's just everybody keeps
calling her and she's just smiling through it.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Yeah, maybe it's a sign that she doesn't want to leave.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
And well, and well, there's a lot to give it
to that, but I'm just gonna say, the whole thing's
giving me anxiety.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
All right. At the airport, she runs into Ryan Bellamy Comma, MD,
and his daughter Zoe, and she had just also happened
to run into the duo in Evergreen, where they had
made a pit stop while on their way to the
airport to fly to Florida for Christmas because Zoe's mom
died last year. Yeah, Hallmark, yea. Zoe had just enough
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time in Evergreen to make a wish on the magical
snow Globe, and Ryan had just enough time to help
Ali start the never starting red truck. Next, in the
turn of events that we couldn't ever have seen coming,
all flights out of Burlington got canceled due to heavy snow.
So after Ali's truck won't start again and Ryan and
Zoe can't find a hotel room, the truck magically starts
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and the three head back to Evergreen to spend the
night there.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
You know, I have a question about the red truck.
Red trucks have really come to be a symbol of Christmas. Yeah,
because of this movie. Oh was it a thing that
I just didn't know about.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Oh that's a good question. I haven't It is around
this time the two thousand that I remember them getting. Yeah,
I love a red truck for Christmas type thing.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
And it's like I do too, But why do I
like that?
Speaker 2 (07:15):
I don't know. I know it's kind of weird. Also,
look it up.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
This red truck is the cleanest truck I've ever seen.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
I hate this red truck. But we'll talk about it later, Okay,
I get side note. Spencer back in DC is not
cool with this change of plans. So we have an
eventful time back in Evergreen. Buttercup the mowing cow started
mowing again, but this time she was actually in labor,
and Ali, Doctor Ryan, and Zoe delivered a calf named Snowflake.
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Also a pipe burst in town Hall, the same town
hall that was supposed to host the forty eighth annual
Evergreen Christmas Festival, only the biggest Evergreen event of the year.
This is the event that will apparently make or break
New Mayor's Ezra's job. Also the event that Alli's friends,
played by our favoritet Holly Robinson Pete love to over
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planning this year. This is a disaster with a capital T.
Carrie uh uh. Next morning, Ali, Doctor Ryan, and Zoe
are about to head back to the airport in the
red truck, but as luck would have it, storm last
night caused a rock slide and the highway's block. No
one can get in or out of Evergreen. Zoe's pretty
(08:26):
pumped about this, but Mayor Ezra and friend Michelle aren't.
And you know why, this is yet another blow to
the annual Christmas festival.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Because people come to this festival that don't just.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Look at every yeah. Yeah, And not to mention another issue,
the ladies who were supposed to cook for the festival.
They're in Montpellier. They can't get back in. Yeah, and
there's only one road that leads in and out yeah,
which makes Evergreen just more adylic to me. So since
they're stuck in Evergreen, we get some fun Christmas activities. Ali,
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Ryan and Zoe make a snow and they do some
snow angels. We have a little tree trimming scene, and
I think we're seeing a little spark here between Ryan
and Allie.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
I think. So.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
They also decide to help save the festival, which has
moved to the barn on the farm where Buttercup and
Snowflake live, and they bake some cookies. Q Baking Montage,
all that baking and they run out of supply, so
Doctor Ryan heads out for some more and guess who
shows up? Who Spencer. He took the helicopter from DC
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to Vermont and you know, it's a big surprise. And
guess what. Doctor Ryan returns with a Christmas tree that
he bought for Ali, but Spencer is there and things
start to get awkward, and Ali then admit she might
be having some second thoughts about Spencer in this whole
big move to DC. That's a real conundrum. But she's
gonna have to figure it out soon because guess what,
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the road's getting cleared that night and they can all
fly out the next morning. That would be Spencer and
Ali going to their swanky, dzy Christmas and Zoe and
Ryan going to Florida for a Christmas cruise.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Which Zoe clearly does not want to do.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
She is like very open about this, There is no
hiding it.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
And I kept thinking, like, you know, I get the
idea that like someone important to you has passed away,
so your first Christmas without that person, like, let's do
something different. Yeah, yeah, but like you have a little kid,
take them to Disney World. At least I mean, maybe
it's a Disney cruise, but good point.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Yeah, Orney, New York City.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Yeah, see the Rockets and do all that Christmas e
stuff there.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Yeah, if they were going to see the Rockets, you
would be much more jealous.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Oh my god, I would love to see the Rockets
any day, any day of the year.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
So guess what, Carrie. I mean, Carrie, that's me you.
Alie does figure it out, and that's because she talked
to the mysterious might be Santa in town.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
I love them, might be Santa.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
And this one's great. Yeah, And she breaks things off
with Spencer and she's like, you know what, I'm going
to stay in Evergreen. Maybe you want to stay here
with me, and he's like, no, my job in DC
is calling. So they're breaking things off.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
And plus he has a swinky party to go to.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
So she hasn't quite figured out yet that she wants
to be with Ryan Bellamy MD and Zoe, although we
all know it's gonna happen, and her mom knows it's
going to happen, and her mom talks some sense into
her and she's like, you know what, I'm going to
go intercept them before they leave for the airport. At
the inn, but she's too late that in Yeah, it's
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a great end, it's too late. They already left for
the airport. But let's not frot just yet, because Zoe
had the magical wish that she had made on the
snow globe that was still out there, and it seems
like that wish might be that they get to spend
Christmas in Evergreen. And just like that, there's mechanical issues
on the plane flight canceled. Ryan and Zoe get to
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stay in Evergreen for Christmas. Back they go, they meet
up with Allie at the wildly successful forty eighth annual
Evergreen Christmas Festival. Michelle pulled it off after her panic attack,
which was soft with the Twelve Days of Christmas. And
we get our first Chris between Allie and Ryan after
they reunite at the Christmas Festival, and then they all
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eat dinner together in the Chris Kringle Diner for Christmas
and it's so beautiful and it reminded me of Whoville
and the Grinch when they were all eating that dinner together. Yeah,
and that ends the first Christmas in Evergreen spectacular.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Well, that was excellent. I really love it me too,
but of course I have a lot to say about it.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
So do I so much written down? Should we take
a break first, Let's take a little break and then
we'll write the movie, all right, back, Harrie, Yes, let's
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rate this movie.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
What do you think?
Speaker 2 (13:04):
One to five CCBs.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
I give it a four.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Oh yeah, I'm trying not to cry. I know.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
I mean it's up there for me.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Yeah, okay four, yeah, yeah, I give it five.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Yeah, this is your rocket.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
It is well I gave them a five to two, didn't.
I remember this is up there with like CCB switch
for Christmas and a sudden Christmas Christmas. Yeah, it is
just it's so yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
You know, I don't even know where to start.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
I know, for our next segment, free for all, Free
for all, all right, just randomly select something and let's go.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Okay, this movie has a lot of os the Hallmark
things in it. Okay, basically, you know, we have red Truck,
we have snow lights, canceled.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Flights, canceled is huge.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Dead mom Hulus, and we have cooking mod baking montages
and tree decorating.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
I know, and I wondered, what one what did you
think of the sugar cookies after the baking montage. I
don't remember, okay, which means they were like multi tiered
sugar cookies. They probably did look better than them, all.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Yeah. I don't think anyone had flour on their face,
did they No, But they openly had it all over
the apron and they're like, that's why we're out of
flower because it's all over your apron.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Dad.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Yeah, that's better than the face the face one is.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Yeah, the face one's just wrong.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
But yeah, So a lot of os hallmework moments that
I'm into, Yeah, there were there were a lot.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Okay, let's see.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
You know what I think. Actually, let me talk a
little bit about the town of Evergreen. Please do because
I have one about the town of Evergreen too. Okay,
So Evergreen the town is based on Hallmark artist Jeff
Greenleaf's Crisps illustrations.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
I loved the illustrations when you came back from like
ads or something. I loved this.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Feature throughout the movie. Yeah, the town of Evergreen was,
actually it was. The movie was filmed in Burnaby Village,
British Columbia. Burnaby Village was built in nineteen seventy one
to reflect the early history of the Canadian province and
the heritage village includes a bakery, a bank, a general store,
a blacksmith shop, a lot cabin, a church, and more.
(15:31):
And they all look like buildings from the twenties that
have been frozen. I'm oh, which now means I want
to go up to British Columbia.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Let's go. Yeah, because my note on Evergreen was I
want to live in Evergreen and it's it's my soul town.
That's what I wrote. And it really hurt in this
movie that d C was the kind of evil big
city because, as you know, we live in the DC area.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Yeah, I mean DC often is, I get it.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
I know a lot, we have a lot to offer.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
I know people think it's just political in DC, and
of course there is a lot of politics and that
yet of crap, but we literally never talk politic No.
Holly Robinson Pete love Her said the town of Evergreen
is the star and we're all co stars, and I
thought that was right, Like that town really is it is.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
That's why I think I love this movie so much,
and that's why part of why I also have Christmas
Underraps is Garland. But this makes Garland look like yeah, please,
I'm not going to Garland. I'm going to Evergreen, and
one day apparently we will when we go up to Canada.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
I feel like a lot of places in Canada probably
look like Evergreen.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Let's just do like a cross country Canada trip and
stop at all the Evergreens next year.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
What do you have?
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Okay, red truck, let's talk, let's do. Let's get back
a little bit to the red truck. Like you said,
red truck has become this Christmas symbol, and I actually
have one on a mat and my house right now,
even though it's like, you know, not Christmas. We moved
and we don't have another matt yet. You'd think that'd
be easy to get, but it's not. So. I love
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the red trucks, but I hate hate the red truck
in this movie because, like I think, what, it's so
clean inside and out. It is clean, constantly, not starting,
and I don't understand, like she said, she inherited it
from her grandfather, and I'm trying to like, how old
is this truck? And here's the part it multiplies in
later movies, like there are more red trucks once you
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get to the fourth one. I think everyone drives that
red truck. And here's the part that I thought was
so funny was after the airport gets closed down due
to the blizzard, They're like, oh, we're gonna stay here.
She's like, not meam that my truck is seen where, Like,
you're driving that truck through a blizzard. And I looked
at the tires. Those are not nice. They're old time
tires too. I don't know why you call that other
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than old time. And they threw all their luggage just
in the truck, in the bed to get wet in
the snow.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Well, and that's another thing. It's snowing. It's winter, and
for those of you who don't live in cold climates
where you get snow, everybody's.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Car is disgusting. Snows are disgusting. It's a magical truck.
It's a magical.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Yeah, it has to be magical. But that actually brings
up something Elsa's that she keeps driving herself to and
from the airport. She literally knows every single person in
this town. Why is no one giving her a ride?
Speaker 2 (18:27):
And didn't she at one point say the truck was
going to d C too, Yeah, so like was she
getting it shipped?
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Well?
Speaker 2 (18:33):
I think the.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Thing was she was going she had just closed her practice,
she was which.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Was also mind boggling to me because she said they
were just testing the waters and you sell your business,
like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
And then she is going to go to d C
to go to this winky party and spend Christmas with
Spencer for a week, and then I think she was coming.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Back that's right, yeah, getting her crap.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
But there's like this adds to my anxiety of her
moving is like she decorates her house.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
There's not like.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
A moving packing box in sighte Yeah. And then like
they do say like the airport I think is supposed
to be an hour or more away. It was in Burlington,
So maybe she doesn't want to inconvenience anyone.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
No, because everybody in that town is jolly and nice.
That's not an inconvenience for them. It's just I guess
that's why I want to live there, which also drives
me to the airport.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Leads me to something else Where do doctor Ryan and
Zoe live?
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Because I know why I wondered too.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
They are driving on the only road that leads in
and out of Evergreen because they stop in Evergreen, and
it makes it seem like they're coming from the north,
which is like Canada. And then he's a doctor and
also leads you to believe like a big time doctor,
which would be a city. Cities have airports, but they're
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flying out of Burlington, Vermont, Yeah, which is still a
hour or more away from Evergreen.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
And also you would have thought that the festival and
Evergreen was supposed to be so big and people came
from all over, but they had really never heard of it. Yeah,
like where are they from?
Speaker 1 (20:12):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Also I just want to add in that when their flight,
the original flights are canceled and they're at the airport,
doctor Ryan and Zoe are like, let's get something to eat,
even though they just ate you never agreed. I mean
that's cool, I could go for a burger.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Yeah, but were there on VAK you need all time
on BAKA.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Well And also actually this kind of goes with this too,
Allie's whole relationship with Spencer, Like why would you ever
leave a town like Evergreen at Christmas?
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Yeah? That makes no sense. And I also wrote down
like I want to know how they met where they met?
They're so opposite and I want to know more about Spencer,
because why was he spending his Christmas just with like
his work pals, Because usually then you see in these
movies that somebody hates Christmas because of their past. But
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there was none of that. I mean, he was the
secondary character, but you would think he'd want to also
spend Christmas with his family, right, So I don't know. Yeah,
I was confused by all of that too well.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
And I don't know if our our listeners know this,
but in the movie A Christmas Detour with CCB Candice
Cameron Beret, which I don't remember if that came out.
I think it came out before. I think so too, yeah,
before Christmas and Evergreen. Barbara Niven, who plays Ali's mom
in this movie, plays Spencer's mom in Christmas Christmas Detour,
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and she plays she's kind of a nasty Momoya's does
a good job that movie. Marcus Rosner, I think they
live in the Hampton.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Oh yeah, I think so, that's where they live.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
And CCB is flying from California to spend her first
Christmas with them and gets a detour because there is
a huge, ginormous blizzard that literally closes down the entire
East Coast and Marcus Rosner is really.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Pissed that she can't get there. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
It kind of is like Spencer, like, what do you
mean you can't get hair. It's like, well, the airport's closed.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
It's like and then he's talking to her from at work,
which is like the best view of DC there is.
I want to building on the mall. And then he's like, wow,
you can't fight. I can't pick you up tomorrow. I
have to work. I'm like, you're at work today, and
she was flying out, like you get fifteen minutes off,
You're obviously very important at your job. I feel like
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you could say, hey, I got to run over to
Reagan to get.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Yeah, which is like two seconds. Yeah, maybe she's flying
into Dulles.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
That would suck.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
All right. What else?
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Okay, I have a few small things. One. I loved
the mysterious Santa in this movie, like loved and I
thought he put Frank Holliday to shame, like he yeah, yeah,
he's got some Santa game. He should be that should
be like his actual profession, which maybe it is also
another town without a doctor, But I thought now without
(23:22):
a vent, yeah doctor Orvette. But I thought this one
was a little better because you know, there's other towns nearby,
whereas in Alaska the closest thing was like two hundred
miles away Anchorage and Jacid. Is it just that doctors
don't like Christmas town Maybe they're like, no, I have
to work on Christmas. I don't want everyone jolly around me. Okay,
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the magical snow Globe, everyone kept telling people what they wished,
and to me, I was like, no, that's can't You
can't admit your wish or never like you blow out candles,
you can't sell people. You throw a penny into like
a fountain. You can't tell people or it's not going
to come true. Wish on a star. You keep it
to yourself. So I really want them, even though everybody's
(24:06):
wish did come true. So maybe that's just how this
snow globe works. Stop telling your wishes to everyone. It
goes against like wish you know, yest?
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Yeah, no, I agree. I hadn't thought about that, but
I do agree. Yeah, this is one of my favorite
notes that I picked up. They're having this festival in
five days, which, first of all, it is yet another
festival on Christmas Eve, which I don't know if I've
talked about on the pod yet. But I have massive
issues with anything happening on Christmas Eve because my family
(24:38):
is Italian. Christmas Eve is very very important for us,
probably a bigger day than actual Christmas whatever. So we
have a festival in five days, and I believe it's
bearer Ezra who says, let's make an app. Yes, all right,
my friends. Here to tell you something. In my other life,
(24:59):
I used to in communications and part of my department's
job was making an app for our conference. We'd start
that ish about six months before our conference. We'd have
it launching a month or two before, because it was
another way to get interested right in your event.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
This whole event was was supposed to be a big
fundraiser for the Town Hall Preservation Society. Oh, there's so
many things you could do with an app for that,
But not five years before. I never saw during the
festival how they were making money, Like it didn't seem
it was ticketed. People were just walking in. They were
just giving them. He was giving out cookies. Yeah, So
(25:38):
I wasn't sure how they actually do make money for
the town pressure and maybe that's why the water pipe
burst and it turned into an ice rink at town
hall because they don't make money. Yeah, for town preservation.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
But there's another part in the movie where there's a
landslide and the mayor says, oh, another problem could have
been solved with an app.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
How what kind of app is this?
Speaker 1 (26:08):
What kind of app on a phone can stop a
rock slide?
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Now? And maybe me? He was like, it would tell
people like a detour, but there was no detour because
there was one.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Yeah, yeah, get in your helicopter.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Youah, take your helicopter, which I did really question if
someone would really take a helicopter from DC to Vermont.
That seems like a really long stretch for helicopters. Yeah,
do they go that far? They go? I looked it up.
They go two hundred and fifty to four hundred miles Max,
I think so maybe New York City or the Huntins.
(26:43):
But getting it to Vermont, like just hop on a
hop on your private plane.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Yeah yeah, fly into Boston and get a helicopter.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
That bad weather, like, just let's calm it down with
the helo. Yeah, call in that favor later, Spencer.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Yeah, you know, these Evergreen peeps, they put a lot
of pressure on Alie.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
They really her mom Ezra, like a lot of pressure.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
There's a problem. Let's call Ali, like what do we
do al Like I get the cow might be in labor.
Let's call the vet. But like you've all said goodbye
to her because she stopped at like all of your houses.
You know, she's on our way to the airport. And
it's like, oh my god, something's happened. Called Ali.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
We don't know what to do, or like let's bully
her into staying.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
And then there's a part where like I forget who
has like a bunch of Christmas lights. It might be
it's HRP, I think, yeah, And it's like in this
big not yeah, it's her, and she's starting to attack,
like let's call Alie. I don't know what to do.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
So I don't know. Here's the one. I thought this
was so funny. So Hannah, who plays bigger roles in later,
she's she oh she's wearing the Christmas weater ryeah yeah
yeah yeah, So she again admitting her wish, was like
I just wish for a good man who loves Christmas
as much as I do. And I thought it was
so funny. It's like that's my one deal breaker, must
(28:14):
love Christmas. Which I've never thought about, Like, hey, what
are your requirements? Doesn't matter. Just have to love Christmas
like I loved that. It could be anything else. Just
got out of jail, does not matter. Do you like Christmas?
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Just celebrate Christmas in jail, right, as long as did
you decorate yourself? Oh my gosh. You know someone says
y'all in this movie. Ooh, I don't remember, but I
have someone says y'all. They don't say that in Vermont.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
That's true because Vermont is in the north.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
That's true. Yeah, I have a question for you. Tell me.
So they put an angel on top of this tree,
and I am wondering, are you a star or an
angel person? Or a bow or a bow? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (29:03):
You know what, I think that's a great question to
take to the socials. So go to Instagram or Facebook
at Hallmark Junkies and tell us star, angel, bow or
something else.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Yeah, I think I'm a star person. Though I've never
had a star, I've always had angels. And actually one time,
when I was growing up, we had a very nice
angel and by accident, I sat on it and I
broke all the fingers except for the middle one off
so we did you know, So we had an angel
on top of our tree that was just flipping everyone
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the bird.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
That's like the most amazing thing I've ever heard. I
think I'm going to put that in a book.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
And it was like it was actually a very nice angel,
but I guess it was so funny that I didn't
get in trouble for, you know, damaging a quite nice angel,
because you know, it was giving everyone the middle finger.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
I like both stars and angels. Right now, we have
a big bow. Oh, okay that we use. I want
to get an angel, but we want to get one
that looks like our daughter. So we're like, we could
wait and see what color hair she has. Except our
daughter's hair has not decided what color is going to
be yet.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
It'll probably change too as she gets older, because like
our daughter's blonde right now, but I'm pretty sure she'll
she'll go brown. Yeah, So do you go like blonde
or brown?
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Yeah? And I'm not sure, Cora, she might end up auburn.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Oh yeah yeah. Maybe get wigs for your for your angel.
That's so fun angel with wigs. Yeah, we're starting Etsy store.
I have another fun one.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Okay, So as we talked about doctor Ryan is taking
his motherless daughter on a cruise, and of course says
it leaves out of Florida, which you know many cruises do.
Later in the movie, you find out they're actually flying
into Orlando. They're they're taking the cruise from Orlando, which
number one made me think, just go to Disney World.
Oh yeah, number two and maybe they were supposed to
(31:02):
go to Disney World, but their flight it is being canful.
They can well, my friends, Orlando is landlocked. Orlando is
in this center of Florida. I have been to Orlando
a bajillion times. I've seen many man made lakes there.
And then I said, well, I don't know, maybe Disney
(31:23):
made a canal that goes So I googled it and
then I find all of these websites that are talking
about how their cruises leaf from Orlando, and I am like,
what the fluff? Like, what is happening here? How are
you leaving from Orlando? Got a little deeper. What I
found out is that they're actually leaving from Port Canaveral,
(31:46):
which has become so popular as a port that it
is one of the most popular ports in the entire world.
Port Canaveral is forty five minutes east form Orlando. I'm
guessing Cape Canaveral Space Launch. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that
it's over on the Atlantic side, but they continuously call
it Orlando.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Mmm, misnummer Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Forty five minutes. That's the strut.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
I will say, I am bad enough at geography that
it would never like pique my interest. I'd just be like, Okay,
I'm gonna I'm gonna sail out of Orlando today. I
but now that you mentioned it, I think because I've.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Been to Orlando so many times, I was just as
soon as they said, are our cruise is leaving out
of Orlando, I'm like, really, is it also leaving out
of Iowa? Like that's cool?
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Nebraska cru.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
And you know, also, I mean the whole cruise thing too,
Like I said, were they going to Disney World first?
Because they were supposed to be there a couple of
days earlier. But I'm finding this this movie once again
has another timeline issue because they're like, Okay, what should
we do this afternoon? They're like, let's go ice skating.
(32:54):
I'm like, oh yeah, ice skating another USSOL Hallmark moment.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Oh and I liked their ice skating you could actually
see them skating.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
It didn't look like when they go like skating that afternoon,
it's dark.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
I was very confused by timing and time. Yeah, I
was getting And also when Spencer arrived from the Heilo,
it also seemed like maybe he had taken the helo
at night, but then they still had a lot more
day to go. Yeah, so that also made me nervous,
like I don't want black copper chopper through.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
A landslide or whatever on a huge tank of gas.
And then Ryan and Zoe are leaving and they say
goodbye to Allie at night, but then all of a sudden,
it's morning, and then we cut to them at the
airport and it's a night again.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
I know, I was really getting confused by that. I'm
glad that you did too. Let's see, I don't have
much else. I did appreciate at the beginning where they
said that on a clear day and evergreen you could
see the North Pole.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Oh yeah, I was all about that one too.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Again, bad geography here, but does not seem possible.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Yeah. I don't want to get political, but member when
Sarah Pally that made me think of it.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
I can see Russia from my doorstep. I was like,
that seems more plausible than seeing the North Pole from Vermont.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
We talk about Chris Krigel Dieter. I of course love
the name me too. I often wonder though, with Hallmark movies,
what happens on January second? Does the entire town go
into like a deep depression?
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Yeah, because you know, if it's tourism based town, usually
it's a little longer than Christmas season, right, it's like summer. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Well, and like people are different again. You could go
to our socials at Hallmark Junkies on Facebook or Instagram
and let us know, like when do you take down
your decorations because some people, you know, December twenty sixth
that it's over.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Yeah. I'm a January first girl. I'm January first or second.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
And you know some people also put them up before
Thanksgiving yeah yeah, Friday after Thanksgiving. So like but most
of these towns it would have here, they have their
stuff up in November. Yeah, and I mean it is
fully decorated and there's so much Christmas that like, cause
I get a little depressed after Christmas and the Hallmark
movie stop.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
And yeah, just like in January and it's cold and
like you don't have Christmas to look forward to, and then.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Football is gonna end, and it's just like so that's
my first question. But then I was thinking, like, is
it weird if you have Chris Kringle Diner like you
know in May and June or you just like you know,
we would go, well absolutely, yeah, is it still decorated?
It better be, I hope.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
So if I'm going to Kris Kringle Diner, it better
be decorated like all out all year.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Yeah, because a lot of these towns in these movies
are all like, you know, the Christmas Inn and yeah, yeah,
you're Christmas eve meat.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Good question. I really don't have much else. The only
other note I have is in all of these movies
when there's caroling. Oh my god, I have a note
about this. It's so cringe to me. That's not my note.
I get so. And when I was a kid, all
I wanted to do was Carol. I don't know if
(36:08):
I ever did it, I might have won. I have
a bad memory from my job childhood. I don't repress.
I don't remember well, but I always wanted to Carrol.
I thought it was like cool. But now when I
see it in movies. I just get so much secondhand embarrassment.
I'm like, stop caroling now, it's embarrassing. What about you?
Speaker 1 (36:25):
What about my note was more than have you ever
noticed in caroling scenes they're always singing deck the Halls.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Now that you mentioned it, it's like where they're always
playing Silent Night like in the song. Yeah, I guess
it's an easy one.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Yes, I mean it's not. I mean it's fine. It's
not one of my faves. Yeah, if I have anything else,
I do love that he gets her a treat. I
think that's very romantic and like a gift that you
actually thought of, you know.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
And Santa basically told him to get it.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Yeah. Well, plus it does make me laugh because Ali
says at one point, she's like, oh, I haven't gotten
a tree either, And it's like, right, you haven't gotten
a tree because you're moving.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
Right and specifically Christmas.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Here, and we know you're getting a real tree, Like
this is not a balsam.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
No, no, no, let's just go cut down your own.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Tree there to water it for a week.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Yeah, that's a fire hazard.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
And well if there's lights on, yeah, and your whole
house is decorated, which is also weird considering you're moving
the end.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
It just goes back to my anxiety about her movie. Yeah. Yeah,
and you know, we all knew it wasn't gonna work.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
I will say a note from my mom. She didn't
give it to me on this movie, but she does
mention it because there's often a vet in these movies.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Yeah, that's that's a good one. That should go and
hallwark bing go. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
But my mom's issue is most vets have pets. You know,
they have rescue pets.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
I didn't know that. I don't know either, but.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
You know she.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
Knows.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
And I mean I could see it. I could see that,
like you're a vet, I'm sure you're rescuing.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Yeah, it makes sense.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
But they never have pets. Yeah, I mean I guess
Merrily did have her cat, Queenie.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Yeah, Queenie until Queenie died. Rip Queenie. Should we move
to our final segment? Let's do it all right, romance
one oh one. First, we're gonna have our resident romance
author give us some insights and then final question, which
is a little bit moot for this movie, but will
the couple make it?
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Yeah, So let's go Carre Okay, So at first I
was looking at this movie and I was like, oh,
and this was a couple of years after it came out.
I was like, Oh, Nancy Nagel, who's a pretty big
romance writer. She's a USA Today best selling author. She
has written a ton of books. You can go to
her website Nancy Nagel dot com or hey Nancy. I
(38:54):
don't know Nancy personally, but I know her name. I'm
sure I've read her books and a lot of books,
and a lot of Christmas books. That was like, oh,
so she wrote Christmas and Evergreen. And then I'm looking
at it more and I realized that the movie Christmas
and Evergreen came out in twenty seventeen. Nancy's book Christmas
(39:15):
and Evergreen came out in twenty eighteen. So what I
learned is this is not a movie based on a book. Okay,
this book is based on the Hallmark Channel original movie.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
So how does that work? Though she got but she
still was a part of it, right. Well, they also
call it completing the novelization of the original movie. So basically,
a movie has come out and publishers or the company
will go and find an author and say like, we
want you to write the novelization because I don't know,
(39:51):
maybe it's so popular. Yeah, so Hallmark is a big conglomerate, yes,
and you know there's round Media, which are the movies.
There's you know, the obviously the cards and the stores
and for a while it's no longer in existence, but
there was Hallmark Publishing and that is who published this.
(40:11):
I'm assuming.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Hallmark Publishing actually just had this editor named Stacy who
was amazing, and so I don't know if Stacy went
to her and said, like, we want you to write this.
But there are four movies so far in the Christmas
and Evergreen series slash, four books all written after So
the first three were all written by Nancy Nagel. We
(40:33):
have Christmas and Evergreen, then we have Letters to Santa,
then we have Tidings of Joy, and the fourth one
was Bells Are Ringing and that one was written by
Lacey Baker. So, by the way, so I found this
whole thing very very interesting of them, Like what made
them want to go and have a book, Yeah, because
(40:54):
I mean it was a really popular movie. Yeah, I
mean it's interesting. I remember in the nineties, I one
of my all time favorite movies is of course Independence Day,
and after I saw it three times in the theater,
I think for my birthday I got the book. But
that movie is also not based on a book. I
think it was the same kind of deal. It's almost
(41:16):
like you're reading the screenplay. Yeah, but as a novel
as opposed to like a Jurassic Park, which was actually
based on her book.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
So looking more into it to Nancy Nagel, as I said,
wrote a ton of Christmas books, and she actually did
write one called well she wrote too that you'll be
familiar with. One was Christmas Joy and that was she
was like some kind of career woman but she had
to go back to a small town because her antbroker
foot or something.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
Oh is that one was there jam involved, like a jam.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Books with Jam, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
And then the other one was called it was for
Hallmark Movies and Mysteries. It was called Hope at Christmas
and that was in twenty eighteen. It was starring Ryan Pavey,
who's a big Hallmark guy, and Scottie Thompson. And that
one the book was released in twenty twenty. So again interesting.
(42:12):
But in that movie I remember this so clearly. I
was watching it with my mom, and they're in a
bookstore that's like part of the plot, and you see
Nancy Nagel book prominably and I was like, oh, I
know that name. I know that name. And I was like, oh,
I bet she wrote this this book.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
Well.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
On IMDb, I found this note under trivia that made
me laugh. It said this movie features more than a
handful of blatant product placements for author Nancy Nagel, upon
whose novel the film was based Good Job Nancy, in
addition to her cameo.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
So I guess she was in the movie. Woo.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
Nagel's name appears distractedly in many shots on fronts and
spines of book covers in the bookstore, even at the
top of the all book Christmas tree and the competition sequence.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
Way to Go Nancy. Yeah, I want to talk to
her now.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
Yeah, Yeah, let's do this.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
Yeah. I love it. So I thought that the whole.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
Thing, just to me was very, very interesting, because you
always think of it the opposite way.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
And I don't know, like, now that Hallmark Publishing is closed, Oh,
do they do it as much or would another publisher
want to do it? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
Yeah, all right, So shall we move to our final question?
Speaker 2 (43:28):
Let's do it.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
What's our final question, Jim.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
Our final question, Carrie is will this couple make it?
Will doctor Ryan Bellamy m D and Ali Shaw com
a veterinarian will they make Yeah?
Speaker 1 (43:45):
Yeah, they're gonna make it totally. I'm not gonna lie. Actually,
in terms of Hallmark couples, I didn't see like I
saw the spark, but I didn't see super amount of chemistry.
But yeah, they're going to make it. They're gonna make it,
and they're going to have a baby. Maybe in one
of these movies we'll find out. Maybe maybe we'll see
an ultrasound, but yeah, they're gonna make it. Again, I agree,
(44:09):
I didn't see all the chemistry, but they were cute
and Zoe's fine.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
And again, the movie's more about Evergreen than the Red Trick.
It's absolutely more about Evergreen. And it's also more about
Holly Robinson Pete because big fans so much. All right,
did we do it?
Speaker 1 (44:24):
We did it? Bay. This was such a fun one.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
It was, oh gosh, I love it. Well, if you
like this movie, we would love it. If you like
this movie or this podcast both either it doesn't matter,
or if you don't like it, please come give us
a five star rating. It would mean a lot to us.
It really would.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
Maybe write a little review about how awesome we are.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
This is Jenny saying.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
Choose, and this is Carrie saying, we'll see Yin's next time.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
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