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June 11, 2024 11 mins

Mitch Moss and Pauly Howard react to Dan Hurley rejecting the Lakers job offer.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The Money.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
That's why I always say you always follow Yeah. Yeah,
This is Follow the Money with Mitch Moss and Polly
Howard on VSON.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
Here we go, Welcome in. It is Follow the Money
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
It is a doozy. Uh.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
We have Matt Ewmans on the program in West Reynolds
to discuss we are going to get into today's Major
League Baseball card. We have really for gayzy? Are we
going to get two quick series here? Pauli in the NHL,
in the NBA. And the biggest news from yesterday and
Good Morning Los Angeles is.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
The fact that Dan Hurley said no to the Lakers,
said no. Right.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
It turns down all that money would have made him
the sixth highest paid coach in the NBA. More on
that coming up here in a minute. And there was
a Betty market on this now. I mean you had
to kind of search for it globally speaking anyway, And
he was yesterday a four dollars favorite to take the job.
He was three to one to remain at Yukon to
be their head coach next year. And how that thing

(01:10):
has flipped now said, no, I tell you what I
text you this yesterday. I think those books are probably
taking like twenty five bucks on a bet. I would
have liked to take the three to one that he stays.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
Oh yeah, what's also you'd like to see books put
this up as well? Well? Had I known this was
the real offer? What it changed things? What happened to
the with one hundred million dollar report? That's exactly right. Well,
that's a game changer. So the people weren't even close
on the money. Let's start there. Which if you're going
to offer the guy twelve five a year and one
hundred million dollars, it's a whole different discussion. But as

(01:42):
Waldes reported, at no time did Hurley or his agent
like counter and say, can we get to this number,
how about this figure? Can we go a little higher?
So maybe you can throw you can be a skeptic
here and call some stuff in the question about was
this a power play move? And try to accelerate the contract,
and the deal with Yukon bumped that up too. Humans

(02:05):
has a theory he might get to the bottom of
the hour. I don't know what his theory is, but
he might go in that direction. But certainly the relationship
with WOJ and Hurley and he started this report last week.
But Eddie Johnson calls games for the Suns, former NBA player,
He didn't want the pressure. Good for him. His choice.
Don't try and convince me that winning three titles and

(02:26):
water down college hoops is better than winning one in
Los Angeles. That's his opinion.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
But no, he's right with that.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Sure, yeah, okay, yeah, but this is I can't tell
you though, the difference of if you're going to give
the guy one hundred million dollars according to all the
reports and then it comes in, well, it's like seventy
eighty and he's not even getting paid more than money one.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
Yeah, that's a good breakdown here. John Meller really good
on NBA with the props. He also broke this down.
It would have been the sixth highest right salary for
any head coach in the NBA. And I think people
would say, well, that's pretty good. Right, Well, the eleven
point six million per year would put him behind Monty
Williams Steel No offense, Taylu fourteen million. Then you get
an esposed to Popovich and kurd territory. If you want

(03:07):
the guy, you can't. Okay, maybe you don't want to
go to twenty million dollars a year, fine, whatever.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
But those guys ahead of him, though, have combined for
twelve titles. That's so that I understand.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
Sure, But if you want to, if you just make
it seven years, one hundred million dollars, yeah, okay, that's
fourteen point two a year.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
Good.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah, But they never so because you're trying to steal someone,
so you have to go above and beyond, of course,
so you just can't. And they they've been guilty of
this many times. You can't just say Laker brand, we're
the Lakers, we can low ball someone.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
Or it's astonished.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
You can't do that. You're trying to steal someone and
a guy from going and you try to take a
guy who's comfortable, likes his life, and is trying to
win three in a row. So you got to come heavy.
They didn't come heavy.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
No, So I'm wondering if if Steve Balmer owned the
Lakers wanted Dan Hurley, what number do you think he
gets to with the guy. Because he's got more money
than God, do you think that bomber's gonna get to
one hundred million dollars? He probably would with ease and
say that's my guy. I've circled him. We need to
bring him here to La. He needs to be the

(04:14):
next coach of our franchise. Let's make it happen and
get it done. This offer clearly is just something. But again,
if WOJ is reporting that Hurley and the agent they
never came back, maybe it was just I'm never gonna
take another job.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
I just wanted to put it out there. I want
to talk to WOJ.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
I want him to go with this, and I want
you kan to, you know, open up the check book,
open up the bank account, and say what's it going
to take?

Speaker 1 (04:38):
What do you need to stay here?

Speaker 3 (04:39):
And that's because this is where I truly want to be,
and that's what he wanted all along. Now, I did
see like Gino Arima was on Dan Patrick. I think
it was late last week. He had dinner with Dan
Hurley the night before this news got released, and Gino
was telling him, Look, you could go to LA you
can win a lot of games. You're gonna have the
best player, one of the best players of all time
still who's playing at a very high level. You have

(05:00):
ad you can maybe win a couple of championships here.
That's a big deal. And Hurley evidently looked at Gino
and just goes, he looked up from his food and
he goes, yeah, that's.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
All he said.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
Because Gino didn't even know that he was talking to
the Lakers, he just brought it up.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
You agree with the Eddie Johnson tweet, huh, one hundred percent?

Speaker 1 (05:17):
I do.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
I tried saying this about if you went to Kentucky,
it's a bigger deal to win one there than at Yukon.
The only people who would push back are Yukon fans,
So I know that that's accurate statement. Then everybody else
kind of gets it right. You go to the look,
I mean what he has done there, and it's a
great you know, uh, college institution for winning basketball games,
get great program whatever. There are certain tiers though, on

(05:40):
certain levels, and you're talking about the Los Angeles Lakers here,
which is something completely different than what you could ever
do at Yukon and all this stuff about people saying
that he's he wants to go for history and win
three in a row, well, you know it did actually
happen many more times than that with John on Wooden
and UCLA. So I don't know what kind of history

(06:03):
you're talking about where he would be the second coach
to ever do this.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
But talk to me when he.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
Gets to eight or then nine in a row, because
then you're really getting into historical perspective.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Three in a row? Has it's been it?

Speaker 3 (06:15):
I know we live with short term memory problems here
in this country, but I don't know. The Lakers thing
would have been all you have to do is come
back and say we want more money.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
I'm stunned that didn't happen. Maybe it was just a
it wasn't legitimate, but there was a lot of respected
people that thought he was going to take the job,
and a lot of people said seventy thirty, eighty twenty.
They were saying, yes, he's going to take it because
this was in his DNA that he wanted to accept
his challenge and he wanted wanted to do it. And
the other thing is, I don't know the answer to this,
you're married, Vacaro said, you wouldn't last a year. You've

(06:46):
been married over ten. You know who wears the pants
in that relationship. I thought, you know, Genie could get
through to the wife and maybe the wife would say
bye bye stores, and we're going out to Los Angeles
and let's do let's do this too. But it's just
the I can't stress enough the difference. We're talking twenty
five million dollar difference. Yeah, every report was one hundred
million dollars and it wasn't close to one hundred million dollars.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
That's a gigantic I mean, that's generational gaps that we're
talking about now right. I don't know enough about stores
Connecticut to comment on it. I'm not gonna, you know,
downgrade the area. I have no idea. It'd be naive
for me to say anything bad about the area. I
love Los Angeles, Love LA It's an amazing city. Unbelievable
weather you get, you know, three hundred and fifty days

(07:31):
of sunny skies.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
Yeah, I know, but you know this, I mean, how
how infuriated is it to start your day? Were you okay,
gotta gotta scrape scrape off the windshield or you gotta
get up early. No, I know, I mean, I know
You'll never have to shovel again. I have to say
eighty five eighty seventy five every day.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
I mean, that's exactly right. Yeah, I mean once and
we've talked about that before. Being from the Midwest, we
got away from it. I never want to go back
to it once. You once you leave that weather and
you come out to a spot out here, out west
or wherever, it is, just like.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
You had to plug in the car. Yeap, what get
out of here with that?

Speaker 3 (08:08):
So now the updated Lakers odds for the next head coach,
Reddick shoots.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
To a five dollars favorite. Now is it his? Now?

Speaker 2 (08:14):
What if he says, no, I threw that at JVT yesterday.
How about that scenario? What if Brego takes the cabs job?
Reddick says no, that he's turned off by the whole thing.
Maybe change your heart. Then what are they gonna do?

Speaker 1 (08:25):
Right?

Speaker 2 (08:25):
It's von Tobol said, it's Frank Vogel time again. But
this better hope they Reddick says, yes, Well.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
Look at some of the names on the list, though,
beyond that, I.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
Know you're the Los Angeles Lakers.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
You can't, eh, boy, who's out there? Who makes sense? Now?

Speaker 3 (08:39):
At this point, Sam Cassell is nine to one, Chris
Quinn is sixteen to one. Are they gonna revisit and
kick the can on ty Lou while they just signed
him again? He's on the list at sixteen to one. No,
Then you get into David adaman territory. Kenny Atkinson.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
A little bit. A part of me is like, good job,
good effort. But you say, still, if you come heavy,
I think he can do this. I mean he's if
he waited and sat on this for four days, tossing
and turning, what am I gonna do? But then he
didn't counter. So if you tells me, if you would
offer ninety or one hundred, you would have taken the job.

(09:16):
I think.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
So, I mean we Paul, does everybody not have a price?

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Everyone's got a price.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
He didn't have a price to leave Yukon for Kentucky,
so fine, And I would say that the Lakers again
another completely different animal than Kentucky, right, So that's different.
We're talking about the best of the best at the
highest level. If you come to ninety one hundred million
dollars and you make him that's just and evidently he said,

(09:46):
according to the reports, they had a very good vision.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
Yeah, I know that was a problem. Under Jimmy Buss
and cup Check. They weren't getting meetings, and when they
were they were embarrassing themselves. They had to do a
redo with lamar Aldridge LaMarcus Aldridge rather, that's right. The
meeting was so bad. You know, if it comes to it,
you can always just just up ticket prices too. It's
one of the best jobs in sports. It's an iconic franchise.

(10:10):
You could just say, hey, we went all on a coach.
You sell out every game anyways. You know, if you
worried about that, you get up ticket prices too. But
that's people are gonna pay whatever. It's Lakers puss. You
have Lebron James and you're gonna You're gonna win, and
this guy is an awesome coach, so I wanted the
thing was. I don't think it was a slam dunk.
It was gonna work though. He's an unbelievable coach. You

(10:32):
got some numbers coming up to back that up. Human
said this, and von Tobol made the comment about his
attitude and screaming and yelling and getting in your face
and just acting like a lunatic. Going back to the
Georgetown game when they're up fourteen and he's met at
an official, he's acting, you know, he's just crazy on
the sideline.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
How does that go over the first couple of times
with Lebron?

Speaker 2 (10:51):
Right, I can't. I can't think of an NBA coach
who was like that.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
No, no, no, Andy, Lebron's gonna look at him and
be like, I don't care what you did at Yukon.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Are you doing right now in the huddle here? What
is this? What am I listening to?

Speaker 2 (11:05):
He's a crazy lunatic out there at the time, he
really is.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
I mean, look, I mean you love the guy. If
you're a Yukon fan, you just you love him. If
you don't, he comes across as completely unlikable because of
the antics. He turns into a total cry baby, and
it's just, you know, you haven't seen this very often
and at the NBA level, I'm not so sure.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
So we'll have more on that coming up. The list
of college coaches.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
Who made them move directly to the pros, it's a
long one and I'm telling you it is ugly. We'll
run it down for you coming up and follow the money.
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